WEBVTT - Dana Beninati

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<v Speaker 1>This is cut to It with Steve Smith Senior at

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<v Speaker 1>production of The Black Effect and I heart Radio. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Smith Senior and I and this is cut to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Good do it, Good do it. They's getting down to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. Good do it. We asked the questions you

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<v Speaker 1>always want to know, but no one ever asked, let's

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<v Speaker 1>cut to it. You ain't heard am about it, then

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<v Speaker 1>we're about to let you know. It's all it's I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't consider world right now, right wrote right now.

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<v Speaker 1>She's also a chef instructor and based out of New York.

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<v Speaker 1>But also I personally know she does do some She

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<v Speaker 1>does spend some time in Florida because of her her boyfriend,

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<v Speaker 1>who's a good friend who was actually for the cut

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<v Speaker 1>to It audience. Her boyfriend is a good friend of

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<v Speaker 1>mine who comes annually to our Montana golf ski trip.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's it's really it's been a great opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>meet Jason, to get the norm we will love to

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<v Speaker 1>welcome in Dana been the Nazi and I just said

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<v Speaker 1>it wrong, But that's okay. That's that Los Angeles education.

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<v Speaker 1>So give me a hall pass, please, um and you

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<v Speaker 1>can correct me because my co host and uh and

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<v Speaker 1>friend and booking and whatever he is. They're chuckling profusely

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<v Speaker 1>at me. It almost came across as a regime in

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<v Speaker 1>our history. You might not want to say perfectly all

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<v Speaker 1>say perfect all right, Well, welcome to the podcast. Obviously.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Steve Smith, Singer. I got my man to my left,

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<v Speaker 1>Gerard little John, our co host extraordinaire. Uh. He has

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<v Speaker 1>a great wealth of knowledge about a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 1>But my man is not a good basketball player. But

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<v Speaker 1>when I need all basketball information, he's the guy I

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<v Speaker 1>am uh notoriously knocking on his door and begging him

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<v Speaker 1>on on text with hey, brod, I just don't get it.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's he's schooling me on that and then Joe

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<v Speaker 1>are booking guys gonna be his insult his his insults. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a master of everything. He's a jack. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a jack of all trains, a master of nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>He could tell you why, but I asked him to

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<v Speaker 1>fix fix it. Man, he would look at you and say,

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<v Speaker 1>that ain't my job. Scription that is a fair overview.

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<v Speaker 1>And I am good at basketball. You don't look like

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<v Speaker 1>you can play basketball just hook shots, because i've seen

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<v Speaker 1>you at that. I've both of y'all on the same court. No,

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<v Speaker 1>same court, still a lot of bricks. I did hit

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<v Speaker 1>the backboard though, and he missed the first shot of

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<v Speaker 1>the air ball, and Boston was like giving back to it,

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<v Speaker 1>so we didn't let him let that slide. So, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to the podcast. We have this, Uh, I love

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<v Speaker 1>some ice breakers. I'm formulating the icebreakers. I was so

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<v Speaker 1>excited about the next two ice the icebreakers I have

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<v Speaker 1>for today on our guests, multiple guests that I was

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<v Speaker 1>afraid to even send the icebreakers because I was scared

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<v Speaker 1>that they were so good that g or Joe would

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<v Speaker 1>try to ask the question. So I was kind of selfish.

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<v Speaker 1>I was actually insecure about them because they're so good.

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<v Speaker 1>We're we're we're not gonna hidjeck your sec I was

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<v Speaker 1>just I was just saying, how good they are. So

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<v Speaker 1>here we go, all right? You ready? All right? What

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<v Speaker 1>ends with the T? And it's full of tea? What

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<v Speaker 1>ends with the T? Starts with the T? Sorry with

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<v Speaker 1>the T ends with the T and has it is

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<v Speaker 1>a teapot? Good job, it was a good job. Food

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<v Speaker 1>Network lady. She was alright, Um, what's the last book

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<v Speaker 1>you read? Oh, I'm reading a book called Very Valentine,

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<v Speaker 1>which is an Italian romantic novel, and also The Goal,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a business not at all and the tad

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<v Speaker 1>boring but also interesting at the same time. Have you

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<v Speaker 1>read it? Do I look like I read that book

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<v Speaker 1>Very Valentine? No? The Goal quite possibly? Okay, cool? Alright,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a business empire, so yes, The Goal absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>an empire. I like that. I need to get some

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<v Speaker 1>the Empire checked. That's several people I need to call.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a whole the other day, so I would

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<v Speaker 1>I would confirmed. Have you ever read the book, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the Golden Egg? The Golden Egg? Now? Should? It's actually

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<v Speaker 1>a good one because you're you're in a food service

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<v Speaker 1>people business, so it's kind of good. It's all right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm writing it down. Yeah, it's a short read to it,

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<v Speaker 1>got it. It's one of those short reads that it's

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<v Speaker 1>like fifty pages of goodness and then when you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>you go, I feel stupid now just because just how

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<v Speaker 1>much is in that little that little book that you've

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<v Speaker 1>missed out on. So it's pretty good. It's called The

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<v Speaker 1>Golden Neck. Sign me up? Thanks? All right? All right,

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<v Speaker 1>last one, which is more important, the human body or

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<v Speaker 1>the human mind. I'm gonna go mind. We're gonna go mind.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it, Joe. I would say mind as well too. Alright, mine,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I say I'm cheating, but I'll explain why.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say both. We got a guy O J. Burgans

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<v Speaker 1>with the Baltimore Ravens who suffers from mL uh ms

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<v Speaker 1>and he is not able to move. Anything is up

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<v Speaker 1>his eyes and his mouth and so you mail J

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<v Speaker 1>and he does everything by eyesight. Uh, he can't speak.

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<v Speaker 1>He breathes all that stuff. They you know they he

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<v Speaker 1>has a full time um caretaker and his mind is

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<v Speaker 1>so wonderful. But I can't imagine how intelligent he is.

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<v Speaker 1>And yet who used to be a football player, a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty darnker for football player who can't get up sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>because he's one of those guys, he will send you

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<v Speaker 1>an email that just breaks you down. His perspective, how

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<v Speaker 1>he looks at the world, and you just want to

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<v Speaker 1>hug him, and you could tell he wants to hug

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<v Speaker 1>you back, but his words are his affection. I got

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<v Speaker 1>a random email from him about two weeks ago, and

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<v Speaker 1>I so wanted to give him a hug, and I

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<v Speaker 1>so wanted to feel a hug from him, but I

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<v Speaker 1>know he can't. So this question for me as I

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<v Speaker 1>as I, as I looked at it, I started to

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<v Speaker 1>dissect It's like he has a great mind, but that

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<v Speaker 1>one time or you know, maybe you I know you do,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you do. I have and I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>about you. We have someone in our life that we

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<v Speaker 1>wish that they passed away, that we can just get

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<v Speaker 1>that last hug from them, right even on our mind,

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<v Speaker 1>we know that they loved us, we know that they're there,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's that physical hug that you need, and your

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<v Speaker 1>mind is telling you, uh, but they still love you.

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<v Speaker 1>They're looking down on you, but your body saying but

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<v Speaker 1>I need that from my grandma. I need that from

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<v Speaker 1>my grandpa. I need that from somebody. So that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I say both because of that perspective, that that that

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<v Speaker 1>oh J gives me every so often, and I'm just like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>what to be so smart, so love me, so caring,

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<v Speaker 1>so thoughtful, and a little bit of trapped. M hmm,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the perfect word for it. Trapped. I can totally

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<v Speaker 1>relate my This is why I chose mine because my

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<v Speaker 1>dad is blind m and he's incredible. He played basketball,

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<v Speaker 1>for Kentucky. He runs his own business. He lives independently.

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<v Speaker 1>He runs his own business, and the type of business.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a real estate broker, right, so he has spent

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<v Speaker 1>his whole career buying and selling houses that he couldn't see,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what you think about it, right, that is

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<v Speaker 1>not on the information sheet. So that's why I went

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<v Speaker 1>because if he you're right, If you're right, it's all

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<v Speaker 1>about perspective. Right, if he can do if you're a

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<v Speaker 1>friend o j or if my dad can do what

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<v Speaker 1>they do on a daily basis, send an email that

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<v Speaker 1>changes the world, give a family the house that changes

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<v Speaker 1>their world. You know, it's perspective. It's like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>I can do anything. What's your dad's name, Bartolomeo say?

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<v Speaker 1>Like the car that's Alpha Romeo. I was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>associate it because I was going to put it out

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<v Speaker 1>with two. I can tell you right now, if Bartolomeo

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<v Speaker 1>Benettatti calls you, just paying him, just don't ask do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Just paying him cash doesn't matter. Hey, steve somebody to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. What's her name? Watch give him his money.

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<v Speaker 1>He is not here to distrunning. The first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not even going down where are you from in

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<v Speaker 1>a place you call your hometown. I'm from Ormond Beach, Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>and the place I call home is New York, New York.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure? Why New York, New York? Since you I

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<v Speaker 1>feel most alive. Okay, it's the center of the universe. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>in case you didn't know that, I didn't know. No, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>US coach people try that, but it's not it's great.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that you got sh she did, she shust

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<v Speaker 1>me and waiting, she said, go play the child. I

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<v Speaker 1>love l A to come and play. That's what you

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<v Speaker 1>do in LA. You don't live with that traffic. And

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<v Speaker 1>New York is not traffic. You're just skipping around like

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<v Speaker 1>like like New York is never, there's never any Bankers

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<v Speaker 1>are not comparable at all. No, no, no. You can

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<v Speaker 1>ride your bike everywhere you gotta go in New York

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<v Speaker 1>for the subway, you can in l A. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think you can know. Whenever I go to l A

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll text one of my l A friends like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to go grab dinner here? I'm in Santa Monica.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like Santa Monica. That's so far Santa Monica. If

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<v Speaker 1>they live in the Laguna Beach city wherever. That's that's far.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just like asking somebody in the Hamptons to come

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<v Speaker 1>to come to the Bronx. That's quite a white Can

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<v Speaker 1>you take a bike there? You can get there next week,

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<v Speaker 1>said two and a half hour train ride, as it

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<v Speaker 1>would be if you guys actually had trains. But you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have trains. Again, why New York in the superior city,

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<v Speaker 1>she said, superior? Listen. With all that being said, I

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<v Speaker 1>know where your man is in Florida. So so for

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<v Speaker 1>whichever hood you represent, so whichever hood you claim, how

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<v Speaker 1>was your upbringing as a kid. Oh, my bringing as

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<v Speaker 1>a kid is entirely different than life now, which is

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<v Speaker 1>maybe why I like New York so much. Like where

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up as a sleepy, tiny little beach town.

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<v Speaker 1>You go everywhere in a Botinian flipbops. It's it's quiet,

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<v Speaker 1>it's calm, it's fairly boring, which is why New York

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<v Speaker 1>so intoxicating. Right, you've got our you got culture, you've

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<v Speaker 1>got theater. Quite the opposite. You still got some people

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<v Speaker 1>in bikinis and flip flops in New York too. It

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<v Speaker 1>just depends on depends on where you just depends on

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<v Speaker 1>New York. In New York, several times, Raine Sleader snow,

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<v Speaker 1>it's always an outfit or two. I'm going like a

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<v Speaker 1>wedding dress in what is this that doesn't match? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>That is true. You have to be able to rock

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<v Speaker 1>speakers with whatever outfit you're wearing. Clean maybe not, but

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<v Speaker 1>like you've got to make a quick shoe change. Every

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<v Speaker 1>New York girl knows that there's a handbag that fits

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<v Speaker 1>a great pair of stilettos and a great pair of sneakers.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you're gonna make a change, at least one startin today.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you will. But it's always interesting in New York

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<v Speaker 1>to watch people, like watch a guy in a suit

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<v Speaker 1>with you know, with some monarchs or or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because good walkers shoes and they you know, they're on

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<v Speaker 1>the hustle and bustle. Explain this to me. I get it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm act stupid. You're the first generation American, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>For some people that's listening, they may say, Dove, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she she's the first American in her family,

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<v Speaker 1>But what does that really mean. It's huge, however, for

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<v Speaker 1>the family it's bigger or uh not, it's not a

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<v Speaker 1>are but huger because because those those family members know

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<v Speaker 1>exactly how hard it has been for that family collectively.

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<v Speaker 1>But then you have that one person that is that

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<v Speaker 1>glimmer of hope that sets, that sets an opportunity and

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<v Speaker 1>taking advantage of an opportunity that so many other people wished, died,

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<v Speaker 1>bled and work their tail off like your dad to

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<v Speaker 1>give you this opportunity, and you took full advantage of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But take us on that journey for your family on

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<v Speaker 1>what that means for you to be the first American

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<v Speaker 1>Because you're the first American. You're sitting in front of us,

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<v Speaker 1>don't cut to it, but the people behind you, where

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<v Speaker 1>were they and what did they go through to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to afford you this moment to be this all

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<v Speaker 1>star that you are. Thank you and thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>having me. I haven't had the chance to tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>um how much it is win not just for me,

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<v Speaker 1>but for all the ben and not eat the whole

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<v Speaker 1>that's all three of you. UM, it's pretty cool. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm what they call a pizza bagel or I would

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<v Speaker 1>like to say a mozzarella stick. So my dad is

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<v Speaker 1>I do not know what any I'll break it down

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<v Speaker 1>because all of her was slursh, that's all I heard.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm not stepping on that. So my dad,

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, he's Sicilian from a little tiny island

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<v Speaker 1>and um um sleep called liberty. And my mom is

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<v Speaker 1>a Russian Jew, And so I'm a pizza bagel the

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<v Speaker 1>best of both worlds, or a mozzarella stick because I

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<v Speaker 1>like to call it um. And I really grew up

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<v Speaker 1>with exposure to both sides and a really open environment

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<v Speaker 1>where it was understood that my parents came from two

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<v Speaker 1>totally different backgrounds, but there was a there was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of love, at least for a period of time.

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<v Speaker 1>Th So I think for them what it means to

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<v Speaker 1>be first generation is that the plights that their parents

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<v Speaker 1>um went through to put them in a better spot

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<v Speaker 1>is paying off tenfold now for myself and my brother,

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<v Speaker 1>because we are afforded opportunities that I don't even think

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<v Speaker 1>they dreamt of. I remember when I told my parents

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<v Speaker 1>that I wanted to work in food. My mom was like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's fantastic, that is something you've always loved. And my

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<v Speaker 1>dad was like, you're crazy. That's not what we came

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<v Speaker 1>here for. That's not what my parents came here for

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<v Speaker 1>to him, the fact that I could follow a passion

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<v Speaker 1>and turn it into a career path seemed insane when

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<v Speaker 1>the American dream was to come here, get an education,

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<v Speaker 1>get a traditional job that allows you to have stability

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<v Speaker 1>and success and a family. To turn that idea on

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<v Speaker 1>its head and say no, I'm going to do something

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<v Speaker 1>creative and I miss you. I will leverage it and

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<v Speaker 1>I will make it into a career. He was like, why,

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<v Speaker 1>You're smarter than that. It took a long time, and

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<v Speaker 1>even now some some days I can see that he

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<v Speaker 1>is still confused. How in the world I have made

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<v Speaker 1>food into a career. So where did the passion for

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<v Speaker 1>food come from? Well, my grandmother's easy to I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>but my grandparents really so my great grandfather, they say,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I didn't have to have a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>meet him, but they say. He was sent off to

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<v Speaker 1>the Italian Army and first day there he cooked and

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<v Speaker 1>somehow the food was tasted and was like no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>he stays, he doesn't fight, and eventually became one of

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<v Speaker 1>Mussolini's cooks. My dad's parents, UM, just glance over that

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot for for some for some of us.

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<v Speaker 1>I think g and um, Joe know exactly, but um

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. So who's Mussolini, big Italian leader? So Mussolini

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<v Speaker 1>was like Napole you've heard Napoleon Bonaparte. Mussolini is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the famous generals, if not the ruler of all

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<v Speaker 1>of Italy and the Italian Army back in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>So when her when when her mother, excuse me, when

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<v Speaker 1>her great grandfather said that, like, it resonates with me, danas,

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<v Speaker 1>So to let you know, my great grandfather actually has

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<v Speaker 1>a we have a town in Italy named after my ancestors,

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<v Speaker 1>which is Bobino, Italy. And my great grandfather was in

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<v Speaker 1>the Italian Army and there's actually a statue of him

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<v Speaker 1>in front of this town that I've never been to

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<v Speaker 1>that I want to go to. Let's go. I'm man

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<v Speaker 1>is about to rip me apart for not being there.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just letting you know, we don't know this about you,

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<v Speaker 1>and we all supposed to be who I got a

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<v Speaker 1>whole town named out this folks. But because I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna google Fushi and if I looked up Fushi nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to don't don't google boa Ya. It's

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm about say I have been ill. Ain't none

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<v Speaker 1>of fushi to never witness protection. That's all I can

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<v Speaker 1>tell you. That's that's yeah. So for for to fight,

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<v Speaker 1>for her great grandfather to go and fight, now, the

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<v Speaker 1>Italian Army has never been confused with a um intimidating force.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just be honest. But so for everyone would always

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<v Speaker 1>have to go fight, that meant you were a man.

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<v Speaker 1>So for her great grandfather to be such a great

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<v Speaker 1>cook that he wouldn't quote go defend his country, to

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<v Speaker 1>stay back and cook from Musseolini, that is a huge,

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<v Speaker 1>huge accolade. That is huge. I mean I know the name,

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<v Speaker 1>but I didn't understand the history. I needed to pause

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<v Speaker 1>and get something couldn't have done as of things I'm

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<v Speaker 1>good at but not mastering. Remember, yeah, I told you,

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<v Speaker 1>look information information. Why does that information just retained there

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<v Speaker 1>for these moments right now? It's exactly the only reason

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<v Speaker 1>I love cut to It, and I love it even

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<v Speaker 1>follow us on social media too, Smithie, where where at

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<v Speaker 1>I got all my answers questions. Um, yeah, I got

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<v Speaker 1>all my questions answered. That's what I'm here for, a brother,

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<v Speaker 1>cut to a podcast dot com. So the passion that

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<v Speaker 1>the the DNA of of of cooking has been in

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<v Speaker 1>your family for years and so my grandmother on my

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<v Speaker 1>mom's side was the first food writer for the Miami Herald,

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<v Speaker 1>which to be a woman back at that time, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a Jewish woman in Miami to say like, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>write and I'm gonna write about food, and she convinced them,

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<v Speaker 1>especially at that time, women were not looked at as

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<v Speaker 1>as as as people of influten. Wow. So it's in

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<v Speaker 1>my veins. I can't deny it. So how long have

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<v Speaker 1>you and I love to eat? So do I we

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<v Speaker 1>all agree? At what age did you really start to

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<v Speaker 1>have the passion for cooking? I would say probably nine

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<v Speaker 1>or ten. I started working in restaurants when I was fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>but um, nine or ten, it was like, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't need dance was a huge part of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a competitive dancer, and any time I wasn't dancing,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to be in the kitchen. There was like

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<v Speaker 1>nothing else that was of interest to me. But when

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<v Speaker 1>you think about it, they're both like so so creative,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. They're just a form of expression,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're they're super creative. But yet they required a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of concentration, a ton of attention as well a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of a lot of a lot of technique in detail.

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<v Speaker 1>And you couldn't have it in either one. You'd see

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<v Speaker 1>it physically and dancing and your food wouldn't be great

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<v Speaker 1>if you have to and cooking, I mean, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>be good at it, right, So when did you? When

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<v Speaker 1>did you start realizing I want to take this serious

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<v Speaker 1>and I believe I can make a career out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>When I realized that dance was no longer an option,

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<v Speaker 1>so I um tore many three times. The first was

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<v Speaker 1>in a competition. I tore an a c L during

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<v Speaker 1>a performance and changed the game. Yeah, I hurt my ego,

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<v Speaker 1>like for it to happen on stage and with that move?

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<v Speaker 1>What are you trying to do? Uh, it's it's called

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<v Speaker 1>it's now illegal, so you don't see dancers doing anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>thank god, because a lot of people heard themselves. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you know what a Russian is, which is like

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<v Speaker 1>a toe touch, right, but instead of coming down and

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<v Speaker 1>landing on your feet, you do a toe touch and

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<v Speaker 1>then in the air you turn and you land in

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<v Speaker 1>a split. No that there's a legal dance moves that

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<v Speaker 1>just here there's jump up and shank somebody that it's

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<v Speaker 1>been outlawed, it's been out on. Yeah, what do you do?

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<v Speaker 1>Not that? Not that exactly. So that made it clear like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you can still dance and have fun, and I do

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, I'll tear up any dance. I'll make something

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<v Speaker 1>into a dancefort tomorrow today. But it made it clear

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<v Speaker 1>that it just it wasn't going to be a long

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<v Speaker 1>term option anymore. So electric do you do the electric slide?

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<v Speaker 1>Tear it up? She said? Cupid shuffle? Yeah? Who doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>do the Cupid shuffle? A lot of people. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's old, but let's do it. That's that's traditional at

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<v Speaker 1>the black moment, use and wins. I know, damn well,

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<v Speaker 1>you and Jason are not doing electric slide when y'all

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<v Speaker 1>go out, he does. That's my whole point and so

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<v Speaker 1>I knew he's some of those. A lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>you've you've had the opportunity. I think what you've gone

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<v Speaker 1>to Johnson and Wales, right, is that the one here

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<v Speaker 1>in Charlotte? Is they're multiple there? Well I did not

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<v Speaker 1>go to the Charlotte campus, but it's a great Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>which one did you go to? What does Johnson and

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<v Speaker 1>Wales present Because a lot of people just look at

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<v Speaker 1>it as a culinary school. However, I know they do

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<v Speaker 1>so many other things, and I'm always interested to hear

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what they offer for students because on paper it

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<v Speaker 1>could be overwhelming. Right, you say hospitality or management, and

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<v Speaker 1>people don't really understand. You know, how many jobs are

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<v Speaker 1>in management in hospitality that aren't necessarily up front and personable,

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with people all the time face to face. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's so many other elements to it. What example, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>don't talk about that, Like how how did you knowing

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<v Speaker 1>your passion for food? Having having that passion for dance?

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<v Speaker 1>So let's all of that is creativity. So how did

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<v Speaker 1>going to Johnson and Wales? How did you hone in

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<v Speaker 1>that creativity to really to propel you or take that

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<v Speaker 1>step forward into you know, knowing your desire, your dreams,

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<v Speaker 1>your hopes can really happen if you do this. Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>Well there's a lot of questions there that quadruple barrel questions.

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<v Speaker 1>You loaded the clip on that one that was a

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<v Speaker 1>short ball shot going right there home protection. Well j

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<v Speaker 1>W both JU was my undergrad I did two bad

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<v Speaker 1>first degrees there and then an m B a Cornell

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<v Speaker 1>like Cornell. Yeah, both universities have were incredible, um and

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<v Speaker 1>what they give back to their students. But Johnson Wales,

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're really hitting on something. There's seeming that people

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<v Speaker 1>do underestimate, Like if you know about it, which a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people don't. It's a small, non non for

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<v Speaker 1>profit private school, right, it's not it's not super well

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<v Speaker 1>known beyond the culinary space. But they actually have a

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<v Speaker 1>really robust criminal justice program. They pumped out kids who

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<v Speaker 1>are apparently really great candidates for h j D, NBA

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<v Speaker 1>programs that not a lot of people know about, which

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<v Speaker 1>I think is cool. Right if you go to Johnson Wales,

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<v Speaker 1>if you think you want to cook, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>get to know the industry and you're like this is

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<v Speaker 1>not for me. There's actually a pretty cool and pretty

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<v Speaker 1>strong program that you can get into without having change universities.

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<v Speaker 1>So big, big opponent of j wu um. I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest takeaway from being a student there, and and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that this has changed, is how strict

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<v Speaker 1>they are in the way you present yourself. Right, So

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<v Speaker 1>as chefs, you have a certain mental image that comes

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<v Speaker 1>to mind when you think of a chef, a white coat,

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<v Speaker 1>a white apron. You're clean, your your pristine, your well

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<v Speaker 1>grooms hair pulled back, and they're really strict about that.

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<v Speaker 1>And any classes you take that aren't in the kitchen,

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<v Speaker 1>you wear full professional dress. Like college kids go to

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<v Speaker 1>class in a suit or in a women's suit or

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<v Speaker 1>a jacket in his hie. What happens if they can't

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<v Speaker 1>What happens if someone is their own scholarship who can't

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<v Speaker 1>afford that? Yeah, I was there on side. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>there's a huge scholarship section. I know, but I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>about I understand there's a scholarship program because I understand

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<v Speaker 1>every but I'm talking about the prison how they present themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>What if they can't or to ye to present themselves. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the professional dress, for sure, I mean the culinary professional

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<v Speaker 1>dress is given to them, and the professors take it

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<v Speaker 1>super seriously, like they take a credit card to men's

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<v Speaker 1>faces to see if they shaved. That's gonna get you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's gonna get you a two piece. If you put

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<v Speaker 1>a credit card to my face to see if I shave. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I like a little struff, But you know what I want.

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<v Speaker 1>You put a credit card in my face to see

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<v Speaker 1>if I shave, I'm gonna slap you. Ain't take that

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<v Speaker 1>credit card. Yeah, you have to stick out your tongue

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<v Speaker 1>show if you have a per thing? Is have it

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<v Speaker 1>taken out? It's it's extreme. So to go to college,

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<v Speaker 1>you're sticking your tongue out for what to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that you have a thing so you can't have Is that? So?

0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:48.200
<v Speaker 1>Is this a cold of ethics that you signed prior

0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:53.960
<v Speaker 1>to be some health stuff? What if that falls into

0:27:54.000 --> 0:27:59.840
<v Speaker 1>the food so you fish it out? That's kind of disgusting, Okay,

0:28:00.000 --> 0:28:02.080
<v Speaker 1>and not since why I didn't go there. What's more

0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:04.360
<v Speaker 1>discussing is they're gonna make you stick out your tongue

0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:06.840
<v Speaker 1>to see if you have a pierson. I don't think

0:28:07.200 --> 0:28:10.119
<v Speaker 1>you could not happen. Yeah, this is this all happens

0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:12.200
<v Speaker 1>before you even get in the kitchen and you're in

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:14.359
<v Speaker 1>the kitchen for a six hours, so it's you're a

0:28:14.440 --> 0:28:16.560
<v Speaker 1>check from how to tell before you get in you

0:28:16.600 --> 0:28:22.119
<v Speaker 1>can stick your tongue out over the risotto. Could Gerard

0:28:22.200 --> 0:28:25.400
<v Speaker 1>wear his belly button ring? Is that fine? Yes, they're

0:28:25.480 --> 0:28:30.040
<v Speaker 1>never going to see you. Like. Different areas of your

0:28:30.080 --> 0:28:33.160
<v Speaker 1>tongue have different receptors, so if you have a fiercing

0:28:33.280 --> 0:28:36.520
<v Speaker 1>it makes it ma different. Okay, I understand that. So

0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:39.600
<v Speaker 1>that's for the professional standard. So what were some of

0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:43.480
<v Speaker 1>the things that Johnson wales obviously, um, you know you

0:28:43.560 --> 0:28:48.600
<v Speaker 1>got your management and hospitality, you got your NBA from Cornell.

0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:52.480
<v Speaker 1>What was all those experiences good for? And how to

0:28:52.600 --> 0:28:55.200
<v Speaker 1>prepare you for just being in the food industry today.

0:28:56.840 --> 0:28:59.480
<v Speaker 1>Perform under pressure. That's what it's all about, and that's

0:28:59.520 --> 0:29:01.920
<v Speaker 1>really what my job is. It's just problem solving, like

0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:05.120
<v Speaker 1>putting out fires literally and figuratively most most of the

0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 1>time figuratively, and doing it under pressure. Now with millennials,

0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:13.920
<v Speaker 1>how do you with millennials today? Problem solving and putting

0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Speaker 1>out fires requires uh, something tangible, It requires actually people

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:21.920
<v Speaker 1>to do something and follow through with it. Do you

0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:26.960
<v Speaker 1>find that that's more challenging now? What millennials in such

0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:33.480
<v Speaker 1>a high performance pressure cooking um result driven business that

0:29:34.640 --> 0:29:39.040
<v Speaker 1>people don't like to do. Yes, yes, it's much harder.

0:29:39.120 --> 0:29:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Look I I taught high school kids in between Johnston

0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:46.160
<v Speaker 1>Whales and Cornell and because thank you, I will take it.

0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:49.680
<v Speaker 1>Because getting thirty seventeen year olds to do anything organized

0:29:49.720 --> 0:29:52.280
<v Speaker 1>at seven am is a feat in and of itself.

0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:55.360
<v Speaker 1>But I'm super grateful for that experience because if you

0:29:55.400 --> 0:29:58.320
<v Speaker 1>can convince them to do something, you can really it

0:29:58.600 --> 0:30:01.920
<v Speaker 1>teaches you to problem solve. Yeah, there's a generational um

0:30:02.560 --> 0:30:06.400
<v Speaker 1>shift that's happening, for sure, and I don't think it's

0:30:06.480 --> 0:30:08.479
<v Speaker 1>for the best. And so how does that? How does

0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:11.600
<v Speaker 1>that working? Like? So you know, so you graduate and

0:30:11.680 --> 0:30:13.920
<v Speaker 1>then you start what because you started doing high school?

0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Just walk us through that. You have so much on

0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:19.840
<v Speaker 1>your on your palette that I'm I'm a d d on.

0:30:20.800 --> 0:30:22.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm a d d on trying to grab it all

0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:24.200
<v Speaker 1>and figure it out and throw it out there to

0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:26.520
<v Speaker 1>let our listeners know kind of everything that you're doing,

0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:29.960
<v Speaker 1>because it's amazing. We've had yew, you'd be the third,

0:30:30.720 --> 0:30:33.720
<v Speaker 1>you'd be the third chef somebody who's been in the

0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:37.040
<v Speaker 1>food industry. We had Tiffany phase on, we had Eddie Jackson.

0:30:37.120 --> 0:30:42.320
<v Speaker 1>Now having you is phenomenal. But each each three of

0:30:42.400 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 1>you guys, now, each of you have had so many

0:30:45.200 --> 0:30:50.440
<v Speaker 1>different stories, and you're the first one that really had

0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:53.640
<v Speaker 1>to do with school going through the school process. The

0:30:53.720 --> 0:30:56.880
<v Speaker 1>other ones were baptism by fire right. They lack the

0:30:57.520 --> 0:31:01.680
<v Speaker 1>I think it's more effective. There's a big problem right,

0:31:02.360 --> 0:31:04.400
<v Speaker 1>the whole idea of culinary schools. And I don't want

0:31:04.400 --> 0:31:07.160
<v Speaker 1>to put them down. We need vocational job training, but

0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:10.120
<v Speaker 1>it's a broken system. Kids are spending tens of thousands

0:31:10.160 --> 0:31:12.400
<v Speaker 1>of dollars to go to school with an idea of

0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:14.480
<v Speaker 1>what they think working in the industry is going to

0:31:14.560 --> 0:31:16.920
<v Speaker 1>be like, and they come out entitled, ready for their

0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:18.880
<v Speaker 1>own TV show, and they don't even know how to

0:31:18.920 --> 0:31:22.040
<v Speaker 1>hold a knife yet, and how could they. It's just practice, right,

0:31:22.120 --> 0:31:24.120
<v Speaker 1>But if you're twenty years old, you haven't had that

0:31:24.200 --> 0:31:29.200
<v Speaker 1>much practice. So I I think we have a big

0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:32.960
<v Speaker 1>problem that culinary schools are so expensive, and let's face it,

0:31:33.080 --> 0:31:35.400
<v Speaker 1>the return on that investment is never going to come.

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:38.680
<v Speaker 1>The average industry income is never going to allow you

0:31:38.760 --> 0:31:40.920
<v Speaker 1>to pay back those loans. God forbid you took them out.

0:31:41.040 --> 0:31:43.920
<v Speaker 1>So I think trial by fire is a way to

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:46.240
<v Speaker 1>do it, and that's the way people used to learn

0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:49.480
<v Speaker 1>how to become chefs. There's something called staging, and that's

0:31:49.520 --> 0:31:51.960
<v Speaker 1>how you used to become a chef back in the day.

0:31:52.320 --> 0:31:57.160
<v Speaker 1>Staging like stage French words, staging like apprentice. You wanted

0:31:57.200 --> 0:31:59.440
<v Speaker 1>to be a chef, You didn't go to school, You

0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:02.760
<v Speaker 1>went in the stage. You found the best kitchen that

0:32:02.920 --> 0:32:06.000
<v Speaker 1>you could get yourself into, and you are there, bitch,

0:32:06.520 --> 0:32:08.800
<v Speaker 1>you peel potatoes for a place to live. And then

0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:10.560
<v Speaker 1>once they see that you can do that, well, they'll

0:32:10.600 --> 0:32:13.880
<v Speaker 1>give you something up. I've done it all the really

0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:16.680
<v Speaker 1>strong chefs in this country have have done it all

0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:20.840
<v Speaker 1>over the world. And it's it that is trial by

0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:22.600
<v Speaker 1>fire and the things that you're going to learn the costume.

0:32:22.640 --> 0:32:26.360
<v Speaker 1>You're great. You you understand techniques, but that's it. It's

0:32:26.440 --> 0:32:29.880
<v Speaker 1>just like a superficial understanding. You don't actually know them

0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:32.400
<v Speaker 1>like from here. You know what I'm saying. You've got

0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:34.480
<v Speaker 1>to do them a bunch to know. You got to

0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:37.720
<v Speaker 1>have that problem. Yeah, muscle memory. That was such an

0:32:37.760 --> 0:32:40.760
<v Speaker 1>interesting take on the higher education part because it's you're

0:32:40.840 --> 0:32:42.960
<v Speaker 1>you're coming out with everything you just said. You have

0:32:43.040 --> 0:32:46.240
<v Speaker 1>a false expectation. You have a skewed perception, but then

0:32:46.280 --> 0:32:49.440
<v Speaker 1>you're coming out with a whole bunch of debt as well.

0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:51.240
<v Speaker 1>Everything you said pleasure come out with it if you

0:32:51.280 --> 0:32:53.959
<v Speaker 1>took out a loan, so and you almost can't take

0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:56.120
<v Speaker 1>that out wash rest repeat on a number of different

0:32:56.120 --> 0:32:58.560
<v Speaker 1>things when you talk about higher education. So it was

0:32:59.000 --> 0:33:00.640
<v Speaker 1>I was locked in when you were talking about that.

0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:04.240
<v Speaker 1>When I hear or look at situation where people say

0:33:04.280 --> 0:33:07.800
<v Speaker 1>the system is broken, I kind of like the system

0:33:07.920 --> 0:33:11.719
<v Speaker 1>is broken, because if the system wasn't broken, I wouldn't

0:33:11.760 --> 0:33:14.959
<v Speaker 1>be here like this. I used I used the system.

0:33:15.160 --> 0:33:17.680
<v Speaker 1>I used the broken system to get me where I am,

0:33:18.080 --> 0:33:20.640
<v Speaker 1>and because of that broken system is put me in

0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:22.880
<v Speaker 1>a place where then I know what I don't know,

0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:25.440
<v Speaker 1>and so I can be around people and cultivate my

0:33:25.520 --> 0:33:28.440
<v Speaker 1>own relationships to kind of get educated in certain areas

0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:32.520
<v Speaker 1>that I feel that is usable and and I can use.

0:33:32.880 --> 0:33:35.360
<v Speaker 1>And then other stuff like I don't want to learn

0:33:35.440 --> 0:33:38.960
<v Speaker 1>how to build a rocket ship, don't care, not interested.

0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:42.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm interested in other things, and so I'm able to

0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:47.400
<v Speaker 1>talk to other people that have went to school for that.

0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:53.400
<v Speaker 1>But I've lived enough life that I can I've learned

0:33:53.400 --> 0:33:56.480
<v Speaker 1>how to apply and use applicable information to be able

0:33:56.520 --> 0:33:58.880
<v Speaker 1>to advance myself without that degree. So I can sit

0:33:58.920 --> 0:34:03.200
<v Speaker 1>and talk with real estate folks, maybe not understand and

0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:08.239
<v Speaker 1>speak the the educated terms, but then I also can

0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:12.799
<v Speaker 1>calculate my own I can calculate with the interest rates

0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:16.680
<v Speaker 1>that I know is going on personally interest rates and

0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:20.640
<v Speaker 1>business interests rates. Then I could take the number calculated

0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:24.040
<v Speaker 1>towards the interest rates and then calculate what my loan

0:34:24.120 --> 0:34:27.520
<v Speaker 1>payment will be over with the MS and arms. Not

0:34:27.800 --> 0:34:29.600
<v Speaker 1>knowing that that's what I was doing, be able to

0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:32.279
<v Speaker 1>get the number because I've been doing it long enough.

0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:39.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't have a degree, but can't do that. You was, yeah,

0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:46.120
<v Speaker 1>that's that's that's a go with that, Dana. In the

0:34:47.200 --> 0:34:52.200
<v Speaker 1>vocational culinary arts trade, our degrees from Johnson and Wales

0:34:52.360 --> 0:34:56.879
<v Speaker 1>or other high ranking higher education universities, are those individuals

0:34:57.040 --> 0:34:59.880
<v Speaker 1>looked at like, oh you graduate from there, you can

0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:02.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm cooked with us? Or are there individual people to

0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:05.080
<v Speaker 1>you said like trial by fire? How do you get

0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:07.440
<v Speaker 1>and move up the ranks? Is it the education that

0:35:07.520 --> 0:35:11.200
<v Speaker 1>matters to them or is it you're just good? Yeah

0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:13.960
<v Speaker 1>you don't, you don't need to degree. And probably every

0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:16.640
<v Speaker 1>clinneris will never let me represent them from here on it.

0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:18.560
<v Speaker 1>But you don't need a degree to climb the ranks

0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:21.520
<v Speaker 1>in in the food and beverage world. If you are

0:35:22.440 --> 0:35:24.960
<v Speaker 1>trying to do something in particular, like do you want

0:35:24.960 --> 0:35:26.560
<v Speaker 1>to be an F and B director of a hotel?

0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:32.080
<v Speaker 1>Agree with food beverage beverage director of the hotel? She

0:35:32.280 --> 0:35:35.319
<v Speaker 1>dropped a B worse. I thought she was discussing me again.

0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:37.880
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know. I was like, look, you talked to

0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:43.959
<v Speaker 1>you talked to co hosts like that, but not so food,

0:35:44.040 --> 0:35:47.080
<v Speaker 1>food and beverage, what else? So hold on, hold on,

0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:48.920
<v Speaker 1>So you have to have it to degree to be

0:35:49.000 --> 0:35:53.560
<v Speaker 1>able to tell me how many crates there are? What? No,

0:35:55.480 --> 0:35:57.960
<v Speaker 1>just saying because food and beverlege. To work at a hotel,

0:35:58.000 --> 0:36:00.319
<v Speaker 1>you must have a degree. I've been to an number

0:36:00.400 --> 0:36:03.600
<v Speaker 1>of nice hotels and they have some degree F and

0:36:03.640 --> 0:36:07.480
<v Speaker 1>B s that don't know what the hell they doing. Precisely,

0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:12.160
<v Speaker 1>I would say most hospitality careers you don't need a degree.

0:36:12.760 --> 0:36:16.680
<v Speaker 1>What are some hospitality careers the most entry level positions?

0:36:16.719 --> 0:36:18.959
<v Speaker 1>You're working in front of house or back of house

0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:22.440
<v Speaker 1>in a restaurant, So what do you think what kind

0:36:22.480 --> 0:36:26.279
<v Speaker 1>of front house back house, which one of my Oh

0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:29.359
<v Speaker 1>you're without a doubt front of house. You cannot let

0:36:29.400 --> 0:36:31.719
<v Speaker 1>that personality A couple of years ago should have been

0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:37.360
<v Speaker 1>like back house. No, it's personality. Come on you, you

0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:39.719
<v Speaker 1>light up a room, Steve. When you can make a

0:36:39.800 --> 0:36:42.520
<v Speaker 1>friend out of anybody, run I can run some folks

0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:46.880
<v Speaker 1>off too. Sometimes you want if they're sitting at a

0:36:46.960 --> 0:36:54.640
<v Speaker 1>table and they that is a life skill. I was

0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:58.880
<v Speaker 1>just turning somebody off as a life skill. Okay, you

0:36:59.000 --> 0:37:02.400
<v Speaker 1>need to be able to get people awesome time. What

0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:05.120
<v Speaker 1>if you've got people sitting at your table, sitting at

0:37:05.160 --> 0:37:06.960
<v Speaker 1>a bar, and you want them to move. You need

0:37:07.040 --> 0:37:08.840
<v Speaker 1>somebody who's going to make them move. So that's a

0:37:08.880 --> 0:37:13.279
<v Speaker 1>good skill to have to um front of house. Entry level,

0:37:13.320 --> 0:37:16.080
<v Speaker 1>you're a server, maybe you're a captain, maybe you're a

0:37:16.160 --> 0:37:19.760
<v Speaker 1>matre d. So what do you where did you start

0:37:19.800 --> 0:37:22.120
<v Speaker 1>off at? And you know, take after you got your degree,

0:37:22.160 --> 0:37:25.440
<v Speaker 1>you got all these got all this paperwork, you graduate

0:37:25.480 --> 0:37:31.600
<v Speaker 1>and you go to teaching kids. No, my first job

0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:33.480
<v Speaker 1>was a ship job. I was a general manager of

0:37:33.520 --> 0:37:41.640
<v Speaker 1>a winery. Okay, terrible, great, great place to to try

0:37:41.760 --> 0:37:43.960
<v Speaker 1>and apply all the things that I just learned. And

0:37:44.920 --> 0:37:47.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm a third level some. So at the time I

0:37:47.400 --> 0:37:49.279
<v Speaker 1>was only a second level some and I wanted to

0:37:49.400 --> 0:37:52.239
<v Speaker 1>stay in the wine world, or really get into the

0:37:52.280 --> 0:37:57.800
<v Speaker 1>wine world. But Google your bosses? Are you talking about songs?

0:37:57.880 --> 0:38:05.120
<v Speaker 1>Like before Leviticus and all that? There we go, I'm

0:38:05.120 --> 0:38:10.640
<v Speaker 1>here for you, this right here. So it was kind

0:38:10.640 --> 0:38:12.400
<v Speaker 1>of it was kind of right, I know, you know

0:38:12.440 --> 0:38:15.200
<v Speaker 1>what I say. She was like, sounds like songs. So

0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:18.759
<v Speaker 1>you're a GM a general manager of a winery, and

0:38:20.600 --> 0:38:23.799
<v Speaker 1>didn't go, well, huh, did not know? It was even

0:38:23.840 --> 0:38:26.359
<v Speaker 1>that movie Horrible Bosses. It was that was my life.

0:38:27.000 --> 0:38:29.000
<v Speaker 1>If everybody needs to have that, it's all good. It's

0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:31.399
<v Speaker 1>all good. You don't need to have a horrible bass though,

0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:34.040
<v Speaker 1>No you do, because then when you have a good one,

0:38:34.080 --> 0:38:36.200
<v Speaker 1>you can recognize it. But sometimes you can get so

0:38:36.440 --> 0:38:40.040
<v Speaker 1>damaged from the first boss that you are recoverable for

0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:45.880
<v Speaker 1>the next one. It wasn't that bad, okay, So then

0:38:45.920 --> 0:38:48.279
<v Speaker 1>you go from there you jump ship or they fired you,

0:38:48.360 --> 0:38:51.560
<v Speaker 1>which one? No? I left. They asked me to do

0:38:51.640 --> 0:38:53.600
<v Speaker 1>something was kind of illegal, and I was like, I'm out,

0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:57.279
<v Speaker 1>We're not. There's a big food festival that happens every

0:38:57.320 --> 0:38:59.920
<v Speaker 1>year in Miami. The largest catering company in Miami had

0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:03.360
<v Speaker 1>pinch their micro greens. You know those little tiny, beautiful

0:39:03.640 --> 0:39:08.120
<v Speaker 1>mini greens that you see on gorgeous food a lot. Anyway,

0:39:08.160 --> 0:39:11.279
<v Speaker 1>their microgreens vendor didn't come through, so they were in

0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:14.200
<v Speaker 1>a pinch. They were looking for microgreens. They needed several

0:39:14.480 --> 0:39:19.120
<v Speaker 1>hundred pounds of these things. We grew in Miami. In Miami,

0:39:19.440 --> 0:39:22.480
<v Speaker 1>so you need a whole you need a whole pound

0:39:22.600 --> 0:39:25.120
<v Speaker 1>of green, multiple pounds of greens in Miami for the

0:39:25.200 --> 0:39:32.560
<v Speaker 1>microben regular need a lot of That would not work.

0:39:33.560 --> 0:39:37.120
<v Speaker 1>So anyways, long story made short. We sold we had,

0:39:37.280 --> 0:39:43.200
<v Speaker 1>we grew them on property to them and you have

0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:45.960
<v Speaker 1>to drive or drop it off. We had they had

0:39:45.960 --> 0:39:48.719
<v Speaker 1>a courier come pick it up. This is all done

0:39:48.840 --> 0:39:58.120
<v Speaker 1>at night. And they received them and they weren't at

0:39:58.200 --> 0:40:01.840
<v Speaker 1>all wade, so won't be charged before with thousands of

0:40:01.920 --> 0:40:05.120
<v Speaker 1>dollars more than what they actually received. So you so

0:40:05.440 --> 0:40:08.320
<v Speaker 1>you didn't weigh them, so you gave him the street

0:40:08.440 --> 0:40:17.719
<v Speaker 1>value precisely. I get pretty close. And so the owners

0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:22.960
<v Speaker 1>they called really pissed. That's hopefully not an angry phone call.

0:40:23.600 --> 0:40:26.719
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, the owners of the winery were like, hey,

0:40:26.800 --> 0:40:29.160
<v Speaker 1>they signed for him. Charged them, and I was like, no,

0:40:29.880 --> 0:40:32.279
<v Speaker 1>that's so, that's not right. How much did they try

0:40:32.360 --> 0:40:36.080
<v Speaker 1>to charge? Oh my, it was thousands of dollars, tens

0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:38.399
<v Speaker 1>of thousands of dollars more than what we gave them

0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:41.640
<v Speaker 1>an actual product we gave them. It was really messed up.

0:40:42.400 --> 0:40:45.000
<v Speaker 1>I was so y'all gave water down product. I follow

0:40:45.040 --> 0:40:50.880
<v Speaker 1>this story. I'm following it so lack of integrity just

0:40:51.719 --> 0:40:54.799
<v Speaker 1>couldn't couldn't do it anymore. And it was all done

0:40:54.840 --> 0:40:58.360
<v Speaker 1>in cash. You gotta stay about your work. And so

0:40:58.640 --> 0:41:01.080
<v Speaker 1>I left and I went and did a stage. I

0:41:01.160 --> 0:41:03.680
<v Speaker 1>went to Paris and no stage in that dirty little

0:41:03.680 --> 0:41:08.680
<v Speaker 1>city that we all love so much. Good good, let's

0:41:08.680 --> 0:41:13.600
<v Speaker 1>getting down to good. Hey, Gerard, why did you get

0:41:13.640 --> 0:41:16.160
<v Speaker 1>that T shirt? You mean this thing? Oh yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>got it from cut to a podcast dot com where

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0:41:23.440 --> 0:41:25.680
<v Speaker 1>buy you a T shirt subscribed to us wherever you

0:41:25.760 --> 0:41:31.800
<v Speaker 1>listen to podcasts, So you start working in what. I

0:41:32.040 --> 0:41:36.760
<v Speaker 1>came home started teaching, and teaching led me to Cornell

0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:39.600
<v Speaker 1>because the mentor was like, hey, you're doing this wine thing.

0:41:39.800 --> 0:41:43.160
<v Speaker 1>At the time, I passed my third levels UM, and

0:41:43.560 --> 0:41:45.320
<v Speaker 1>they were like, what why are you teaching high school?

0:41:45.320 --> 0:41:48.680
<v Speaker 1>You should teach college. So I applied and I kind

0:41:48.719 --> 0:41:50.400
<v Speaker 1>of kept the same role that we were talking about,

0:41:50.520 --> 0:41:53.560
<v Speaker 1>Like I knew that I would never make enough money

0:41:53.640 --> 0:41:56.279
<v Speaker 1>to pay back loan. So I was going for scholarships.

0:41:56.360 --> 0:41:58.360
<v Speaker 1>That's what I That's why I chose Johnson and Whales.

0:41:58.440 --> 0:42:01.040
<v Speaker 1>That's how I ended up the Cornell And so Cornell

0:42:01.120 --> 0:42:03.799
<v Speaker 1>has this amazing fellowship. They choose one student a year

0:42:03.880 --> 0:42:06.880
<v Speaker 1>will not student, will be half teacher half students. And

0:42:07.000 --> 0:42:09.480
<v Speaker 1>that's what I did. So I did my m b A.

0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:13.400
<v Speaker 1>And I taught UM several classes at Cornell's Hotel school.

0:42:14.000 --> 0:42:15.560
<v Speaker 1>They paid me to go to school and it was

0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:17.040
<v Speaker 1>good stuff. So now I can do what I want

0:42:17.080 --> 0:42:22.640
<v Speaker 1>to do and and not be as stressed about the return.

0:42:23.040 --> 0:42:25.200
<v Speaker 1>So you you do a lot of stuff, right, So

0:42:25.320 --> 0:42:27.360
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about today. What what are some of the

0:42:27.440 --> 0:42:31.239
<v Speaker 1>projects that you have going on today? Yeah, so now

0:42:31.440 --> 0:42:36.560
<v Speaker 1>I have my own production company. What's the name of

0:42:36.600 --> 0:42:39.960
<v Speaker 1>the production company, d w D Production? How did you

0:42:40.040 --> 0:42:44.160
<v Speaker 1>pick that? How did you dine with Dane? Is always

0:42:44.160 --> 0:42:46.400
<v Speaker 1>what it's been, It's always what I've known that I

0:42:46.480 --> 0:42:48.560
<v Speaker 1>want to do. It's it's how I want to make

0:42:48.600 --> 0:42:50.400
<v Speaker 1>people feel when we talk about food and wine. I

0:42:50.440 --> 0:42:54.160
<v Speaker 1>want to make people feel alive and love and having

0:42:54.200 --> 0:42:57.879
<v Speaker 1>a great time. And so teaching on camera, teaching people

0:42:57.880 --> 0:43:00.120
<v Speaker 1>how to cook and pay their food with wine is

0:43:00.520 --> 0:43:02.680
<v Speaker 1>what I love most. And being able to do that

0:43:02.880 --> 0:43:07.160
<v Speaker 1>for other brands like Network or individual brands that have

0:43:07.239 --> 0:43:09.520
<v Speaker 1>a story to tell, be it on TV or digital,

0:43:10.000 --> 0:43:12.200
<v Speaker 1>that's that's what I'm here to do. So why do

0:43:12.280 --> 0:43:16.680
<v Speaker 1>you Why is parent wines with food so important? Because

0:43:16.680 --> 0:43:20.960
<v Speaker 1>it's it's elevation, right, It's one thing is good by itself,

0:43:21.080 --> 0:43:23.239
<v Speaker 1>but when it's with another, it's even better. Come on,

0:43:23.440 --> 0:43:25.880
<v Speaker 1>like a swoon full of peanut butter is awesome by itself,

0:43:26.200 --> 0:43:29.920
<v Speaker 1>but you put that chip with banana and marshmallows, something

0:43:29.960 --> 0:43:33.520
<v Speaker 1>else happens. Oh no, okay, but jelly, I don't know people.

0:43:33.760 --> 0:43:36.200
<v Speaker 1>So let's let's let's play a game here there, let's go,

0:43:36.400 --> 0:43:40.680
<v Speaker 1>let's get to it. Let's elevate something. We got some

0:43:42.120 --> 0:43:45.759
<v Speaker 1>I can't see it. We have some wines. We you know,

0:43:45.840 --> 0:43:47.319
<v Speaker 1>we got we got deals. So we gotta come up

0:43:47.320 --> 0:43:51.840
<v Speaker 1>with brands, you guys, tasty, that'll be real jealous. I

0:43:51.960 --> 0:44:01.200
<v Speaker 1>just had some microgreen, so I can't. So we're moving on. Um.

0:44:01.640 --> 0:44:07.560
<v Speaker 1>So right now we have a cab is Alexandria Valley,

0:44:08.280 --> 0:44:18.319
<v Speaker 1>Sonoma County to what would you pair this with? Ah?

0:44:19.120 --> 0:44:23.840
<v Speaker 1>Is it for you? It's for your cousin Lucy, It

0:44:23.920 --> 0:44:27.600
<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter. It could be Agnes out there in parish

0:44:27.640 --> 0:44:32.840
<v Speaker 1>smoking at Virginia slim Lucy drink whatever is in there,

0:44:36.080 --> 0:44:42.280
<v Speaker 1>Uncle James softball. So we're gonna go steak up stake

0:44:42.320 --> 0:44:49.479
<v Speaker 1>in crusted and peppercorns. Okay, that was so non black

0:44:49.600 --> 0:44:56.760
<v Speaker 1>right there, incrested with peppercorn. Yeah. Look, if you're spending

0:44:56.800 --> 0:44:59.560
<v Speaker 1>time in Paris and you're eating steak freeze, you probably

0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:02.319
<v Speaker 1>had up without knowing it. The first first few times

0:45:02.360 --> 0:45:04.320
<v Speaker 1>I went to parish, I really couldn't afford it. So

0:45:04.480 --> 0:45:07.680
<v Speaker 1>brother wasn't really having a lot of food, havn't Okay? Okay,

0:45:08.040 --> 0:45:11.240
<v Speaker 1>that would also be bombed with a really thin smash

0:45:11.280 --> 0:45:16.799
<v Speaker 1>burger like crispy edges, cheesy freako over the edges, wine

0:45:16.840 --> 0:45:20.120
<v Speaker 1>and the burger. Hell. Yet I'm more of it in

0:45:20.239 --> 0:45:25.560
<v Speaker 1>and out, not smashed burger smiger. All right, I understand

0:45:25.600 --> 0:45:27.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking to an l wait. I wasn't talking about

0:45:27.760 --> 0:45:30.240
<v Speaker 1>smash burger like the place I was talking about the style,

0:45:30.400 --> 0:45:34.719
<v Speaker 1>like a super thin burger. But if we're talking about

0:45:34.760 --> 0:45:37.080
<v Speaker 1>the best then burger and talking to two black guys

0:45:37.120 --> 0:45:43.239
<v Speaker 1>that barbecue when you went, he's been over a house

0:45:43.280 --> 0:45:48.920
<v Speaker 1>way too much. Hell no he been, he he been.

0:45:49.000 --> 0:45:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Not bring no thinly sliced burger to the house. I

0:45:54.080 --> 0:46:03.239
<v Speaker 1>don't back home, George of the flat, is this a

0:46:03.360 --> 0:46:11.960
<v Speaker 1>thick burger? Crew? Only my wife after she had a

0:46:12.000 --> 0:46:16.239
<v Speaker 1>couple of glasses of Danny. We'll talk Italian after this.

0:46:19.360 --> 0:46:24.279
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. Yeah, I'll tell you I would not

0:46:24.440 --> 0:46:28.080
<v Speaker 1>put it with a hot dog or ribs. It's gonna

0:46:28.080 --> 0:46:32.360
<v Speaker 1>be too big, too much, all right. So thinly sliced burger,

0:46:33.480 --> 0:46:37.960
<v Speaker 1>not thinly slice, you smash it, all right. So you're saying, like,

0:46:38.320 --> 0:46:43.160
<v Speaker 1>h so a fancy burger, No, just a thin crispy burger.

0:46:43.360 --> 0:46:51.680
<v Speaker 1>That's a fancy burger. And out burgers, fancy sell milkshakes

0:46:51.719 --> 0:46:58.880
<v Speaker 1>and seven up man lemonade, shape shock cells wine. They

0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:03.239
<v Speaker 1>didn't go to shake Shore got crinkle fries. There's nothing

0:47:03.280 --> 0:47:05.920
<v Speaker 1>wrong with the Crenkle fry. First of all, we're asking

0:47:05.960 --> 0:47:08.520
<v Speaker 1>at I'm asking a stupid quest other than Moscatto is

0:47:08.560 --> 0:47:13.160
<v Speaker 1>there other dessert wines? Kelly? Yes, are you in the

0:47:13.239 --> 0:47:16.959
<v Speaker 1>sweet wine? I'll do a fruitful drink at the modment.

0:47:17.560 --> 0:47:20.239
<v Speaker 1>That's just who I am. I'm not a I don't

0:47:20.280 --> 0:47:25.719
<v Speaker 1>really drink like that, so I'd go with Seltzer. No.

0:47:26.400 --> 0:47:29.719
<v Speaker 1>If I stand you with this, I'm not I'll hit

0:47:29.800 --> 0:47:31.960
<v Speaker 1>the fruitful wine. But I ain't hit no Seltzer. Now,

0:47:32.280 --> 0:47:36.560
<v Speaker 1>don't get a twist? All right? All right? Hold on?

0:47:37.200 --> 0:47:41.160
<v Speaker 1>And then why you're gonna have to send that to Joe?

0:47:41.239 --> 0:47:48.360
<v Speaker 1>I can't spell that the oldest great? What about? What

0:47:48.440 --> 0:47:54.800
<v Speaker 1>about some Lambrusco love lamb fruit? It's Italian? It's Italian

0:47:54.840 --> 0:48:00.600
<v Speaker 1>sweet wine? Okay? Is it sweeter than little Bubbly No? No,

0:48:00.920 --> 0:48:04.200
<v Speaker 1>because can find them. It could be sometimes too sweet.

0:48:04.760 --> 0:48:09.279
<v Speaker 1>It's a dessert one back in like those early like

0:48:09.520 --> 0:48:11.439
<v Speaker 1>oh five, when Like Drake first came out. He started

0:48:11.520 --> 0:48:14.600
<v Speaker 1>rapping about it people eating drinking mascotto with like steaks

0:48:14.719 --> 0:48:16.920
<v Speaker 1>like comes not even I know you don't suppose you

0:48:17.000 --> 0:48:21.360
<v Speaker 1>that that's wrong? A Scott with everything. And then we

0:48:21.480 --> 0:48:28.520
<v Speaker 1>got a sharden. Is this Chardonay California Select twenty nineteen.

0:48:28.560 --> 0:48:34.960
<v Speaker 1>What would you have with this? I go seafood? Really

0:48:35.000 --> 0:48:38.280
<v Speaker 1>like a boil of some kind, like a crawfish boil

0:48:38.719 --> 0:48:42.640
<v Speaker 1>or drinking bruce. That would be really really good. So

0:48:43.000 --> 0:48:45.960
<v Speaker 1>have you been You've been in New Orleans? Right? I

0:48:46.280 --> 0:48:48.920
<v Speaker 1>have what a city? Man? So would you would you

0:48:49.000 --> 0:48:51.160
<v Speaker 1>go to would you go to mothers? If you go

0:48:51.280 --> 0:48:54.000
<v Speaker 1>to mothers and get one of those some gumbo Montfrey,

0:48:54.440 --> 0:49:02.200
<v Speaker 1>you go with this perfection man to see as good

0:49:02.239 --> 0:49:04.520
<v Speaker 1>as hell? Kick your ass? You coming in there with this?

0:49:06.480 --> 0:49:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Can I get nine ounce pour? We don't even have

0:49:12.360 --> 0:49:14.879
<v Speaker 1>as you think we're gonna get yourself. You think we're

0:49:14.880 --> 0:49:18.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna get you some wine. Let's get this ninja out

0:49:18.480 --> 0:49:22.400
<v Speaker 1>of here. Can go to the stow with that? You

0:49:22.719 --> 0:49:25.960
<v Speaker 1>go around and call me right? Um? Okay, last one

0:49:26.960 --> 0:49:29.560
<v Speaker 1>this is this is your test. Now see if you

0:49:29.680 --> 0:49:36.720
<v Speaker 1>really know about your stuff? If you too, this is Dana.

0:49:36.800 --> 0:49:39.600
<v Speaker 1>This is very high end. So you're gonna you got

0:49:39.680 --> 0:49:44.880
<v Speaker 1>this sour apple chiller with a with a cat. What

0:49:44.960 --> 0:49:52.359
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna drink with this orange based wine? Absolutely? It's

0:49:52.440 --> 0:49:56.280
<v Speaker 1>orange wine with apple and lemon juices and natural flavors

0:49:56.360 --> 0:50:01.480
<v Speaker 1>code for artificial? Yeah, so you drinking with this? I

0:50:01.560 --> 0:50:04.560
<v Speaker 1>saw your instagram muse over there has some you're gonna

0:50:04.800 --> 0:50:07.640
<v Speaker 1>McDonald So this gotta be one of those with with

0:50:07.800 --> 0:50:11.239
<v Speaker 1>that nugget the quarter pounds. Everybody knows sour apple pair

0:50:11.239 --> 0:50:15.000
<v Speaker 1>as well with a nugget what you got? I mean

0:50:15.239 --> 0:50:18.759
<v Speaker 1>you could go nuggets, but I'm not going nuggets. I'm

0:50:18.920 --> 0:50:22.360
<v Speaker 1>going breakfast. Like what's that thing where the syrup is

0:50:22.400 --> 0:50:26.440
<v Speaker 1>built in a mcgriddle, the sweet and savory it's got

0:50:26.520 --> 0:50:29.000
<v Speaker 1>like sausage, egg and cheese. They don't sponsors, We can't.

0:50:30.640 --> 0:50:36.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know you would drink a sour apple that? Yes, sadly,

0:50:36.520 --> 0:50:40.200
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be sweet and oddly citrusy. What do you

0:50:40.239 --> 0:50:41.920
<v Speaker 1>use the parent with wild irish rose? What do you

0:50:41.960 --> 0:50:44.400
<v Speaker 1>what do you eat with that? Um? You know the

0:50:44.440 --> 0:50:47.080
<v Speaker 1>bird you got up on an air. I can just

0:50:47.120 --> 0:50:48.839
<v Speaker 1>drink that straight just at the end of the day,

0:50:49.760 --> 0:50:52.040
<v Speaker 1>mixed package of cold in it. Chake it up if

0:50:52.120 --> 0:50:55.160
<v Speaker 1>you're drinking this. If you're drinking this early in morning,

0:50:55.200 --> 0:50:57.040
<v Speaker 1>you've got a problem. Bro I felt bad buying it.

0:50:57.120 --> 0:51:00.880
<v Speaker 1>They were looking at me like rice check one sour apple?

0:51:01.160 --> 0:51:02.440
<v Speaker 1>What else is your bout with that? A pack of

0:51:02.480 --> 0:51:07.640
<v Speaker 1>black of mouths. I got a lucky strike about one cigarette?

0:51:08.320 --> 0:51:14.360
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely not one of you. We'll give you some feedback.

0:51:14.400 --> 0:51:17.040
<v Speaker 1>We might do that off camera. We got contracts when

0:51:17.040 --> 0:51:19.440
<v Speaker 1>you're drinking on camera. I actually I don't. I'm not

0:51:19.600 --> 0:51:21.719
<v Speaker 1>really a drinker anyway, And they make fun of me

0:51:21.760 --> 0:51:25.000
<v Speaker 1>because when we all do, I'll get I mean, I

0:51:25.400 --> 0:51:31.040
<v Speaker 1>am he's a vodka fruit juice pineapple, yea vaka pineapple.

0:51:31.360 --> 0:51:34.840
<v Speaker 1>Or I'll do uh, I'll do areto sour judge me

0:51:34.920 --> 0:51:39.520
<v Speaker 1>if you want no, that's no no judge. So one

0:51:39.600 --> 0:51:42.040
<v Speaker 1>time somebody tried to be funny though. A waiter tried

0:51:42.080 --> 0:51:44.000
<v Speaker 1>to be funny because he was like, oh, you're Mr.

0:51:44.120 --> 0:51:47.200
<v Speaker 1>Tough guy. He brought it in a in a um

0:51:48.520 --> 0:51:53.520
<v Speaker 1>Margaret Martini glass, Martini glass. I gave him the stair.

0:51:53.640 --> 0:51:55.759
<v Speaker 1>You better put that in a short glass player. I

0:51:55.840 --> 0:51:58.600
<v Speaker 1>looked at him. He was like, what is I said, bro,

0:52:00.120 --> 0:52:02.239
<v Speaker 1>glass gonna get your ass. You better go ahead and

0:52:02.280 --> 0:52:04.279
<v Speaker 1>put it in real glass. Don't disrespect me like that.

0:52:05.360 --> 0:52:07.359
<v Speaker 1>He's like, oh, I thought it was funny. I got

0:52:07.440 --> 0:52:10.399
<v Speaker 1>something I think funny on YouTube. He was like, oh,

0:52:10.840 --> 0:52:12.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, I was just joking around. Come home, bro,

0:52:13.480 --> 0:52:16.080
<v Speaker 1>trying to do like that. Donna stall me out and

0:52:16.120 --> 0:52:23.160
<v Speaker 1>get stalled yourself. That injine, don't turn over to so um. Yeah.

0:52:24.440 --> 0:52:26.800
<v Speaker 1>See if I have a drink recommendation for you, okay,

0:52:28.280 --> 0:52:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Apple sprints, what say it one more time? And an

0:52:33.239 --> 0:52:37.120
<v Speaker 1>Aprile sprint. If you like an Amaretto sour, I think

0:52:37.120 --> 0:52:41.880
<v Speaker 1>you're going to be into it. A p E A

0:52:42.040 --> 0:52:46.719
<v Speaker 1>p E r o l sprits okay, because you've got

0:52:46.840 --> 0:52:50.240
<v Speaker 1>like the sour mix, the amaretto, the sprite thing happening

0:52:51.040 --> 0:52:54.320
<v Speaker 1>in that drink it's prosecco. You've still got the orange slices,

0:52:54.520 --> 0:52:56.360
<v Speaker 1>got a little splash of april. I think you'll be

0:52:56.440 --> 0:52:59.000
<v Speaker 1>into it. I'll tell you, I tell you everything. I'll

0:52:59.000 --> 0:53:01.160
<v Speaker 1>tell you a drink that's pretty so you ever heard

0:53:01.280 --> 0:53:09.680
<v Speaker 1>of a green tea? Okay, substitute the substitute the brown

0:53:10.880 --> 0:53:15.560
<v Speaker 1>and put um put back in it, and it's a

0:53:15.640 --> 0:53:22.320
<v Speaker 1>white tea. Fire try no huh. What are some of

0:53:22.480 --> 0:53:27.719
<v Speaker 1>the dishes or foods you like to cook when you're

0:53:27.760 --> 0:53:32.960
<v Speaker 1>not working? Oh? Pasta any day, every day, tear it up.

0:53:33.400 --> 0:53:38.839
<v Speaker 1>I'd love to make curry, any kind of curry? Are

0:53:38.880 --> 0:53:43.880
<v Speaker 1>you imposta curry? I just everybody post that you like

0:53:44.600 --> 0:53:48.319
<v Speaker 1>and you cannot say spaghetti. I know you too well.

0:53:51.040 --> 0:53:53.719
<v Speaker 1>I like a good like the shrimp scampy joint. I

0:53:53.840 --> 0:53:57.680
<v Speaker 1>like that. So what kind of noodles are? And I

0:53:57.719 --> 0:54:00.319
<v Speaker 1>don't know whatever they Sorry, I don't know. And Joe

0:54:00.520 --> 0:54:03.640
<v Speaker 1>like the thick noodles or the real that that is

0:54:03.719 --> 0:54:06.200
<v Speaker 1>a chift's preference. Whatever it is, I'm gonna eat it.

0:54:06.200 --> 0:54:10.799
<v Speaker 1>I like angel. Joe's shaking his head because you're calling yeah,

0:54:11.280 --> 0:54:14.239
<v Speaker 1>like a bake Man of God is my favorite. My

0:54:15.040 --> 0:54:16.920
<v Speaker 1>mom used to make that and freeze right and send

0:54:16.960 --> 0:54:24.960
<v Speaker 1>to me in college after some micro green. What's that? Yeah,

0:54:25.040 --> 0:54:28.040
<v Speaker 1>we can call it big Joan. Yeah, So for me,

0:54:29.040 --> 0:54:31.799
<v Speaker 1>I love I had it in I had it when

0:54:31.840 --> 0:54:34.360
<v Speaker 1>I was traveling on the first time ever. Um, and

0:54:34.440 --> 0:54:38.880
<v Speaker 1>it's some former version of spaghetti, but um, bolon, I

0:54:39.000 --> 0:54:41.319
<v Speaker 1>love bolon. I ain't gonna tell me not to say

0:54:41.320 --> 0:54:43.320
<v Speaker 1>spaghetti and then you go straight to some damn spaghetti.

0:54:43.560 --> 0:54:46.760
<v Speaker 1>I was if, I said, because it's Bolonise is different,

0:54:47.239 --> 0:54:49.880
<v Speaker 1>but it's it's kind of a it's a version of spaghetti,

0:54:49.960 --> 0:54:54.080
<v Speaker 1>but it is ridiculous. It takes about eight to nine hours,

0:54:54.160 --> 0:54:57.840
<v Speaker 1>so it's not spaghetti eight or nine hours just on

0:54:58.080 --> 0:55:02.360
<v Speaker 1>the sauce. It is. Don see, next time I see you,

0:55:02.400 --> 0:55:05.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna make you bologna and the uncle a white

0:55:05.960 --> 0:55:10.520
<v Speaker 1>bolog I tried. I tried the white bolon as you're

0:55:10.560 --> 0:55:12.719
<v Speaker 1>in a fan, did you have a good one? I

0:55:12.800 --> 0:55:19.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know, this gotta be about race, Like it just wasn't.

0:55:19.280 --> 0:55:24.880
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't. I didn't like. I didn't like the it

0:55:25.200 --> 0:55:28.200
<v Speaker 1>had like a residue. The white pasta it was. It

0:55:28.360 --> 0:55:31.160
<v Speaker 1>was kind of like it was like I want to say,

0:55:31.480 --> 0:55:33.600
<v Speaker 1>the best I had. The best I have is like,

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<v Speaker 1>so I have a coffee a cappuccino machine, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know sometimes when if you don't use the the milk

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<v Speaker 1>and it kind of just sits there and it has

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<v Speaker 1>that little residue. That's how I kind of I felt

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<v Speaker 1>that the white had a film, had a film, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like, we gotta get no, don't judge

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<v Speaker 1>solely on that. You gotta get you another one. But

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<v Speaker 1>uh so I was. You know, my grandmother taught me

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<v Speaker 1>I cook. I love cooking. I enjoy cooking. Um the

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<v Speaker 1>meal I met made for my wife when I was

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<v Speaker 1>warning her over back in college. Oh I love this

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<v Speaker 1>um manicatti with meat sauce. Oh you can roll over, Joel.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems too Yeah, so I even I even put

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<v Speaker 1>the missed it. I even put that I didn't miss it.

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<v Speaker 1>I glanced over. No, I put the uh. At the time,

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't a stute, so I didn't put the cheese

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<v Speaker 1>in a zip block bag of squeeze and I used

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<v Speaker 1>like a spoon, like a baby spoon to put the

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<v Speaker 1>cheese in there, and did all that in the meat sauce.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's that was our That was the first meal

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<v Speaker 1>I made her. They were yeah, did it's sure? Did so? Yeah. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>We're almost wrapping up, but wanted to just ask you, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you're you are on advisory board or advisory

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<v Speaker 1>board remember for the Food Education Fund and in New York. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>what made you come to that decision or conclusion that's

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<v Speaker 1>where you want to serve on that board? There's so

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<v Speaker 1>many boards, there's so many foundations, there's so many things

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<v Speaker 1>with food security or the lack of food security. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you believe that you being on that board

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<v Speaker 1>is um is the right place for you? And what

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<v Speaker 1>are they doing that you continue to serve and believe

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<v Speaker 1>that they're doing great things? Food Education Fund is incredible

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of the touch points you just mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>Steve are what brought me there. So I think you

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<v Speaker 1>want to make a difference, you've got to start small,

0:57:40.760 --> 0:57:43.040
<v Speaker 1>so smart, little, start local. For me was where it

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<v Speaker 1>was at, And I started with Food Education Fund when

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<v Speaker 1>they had one high school. UM, and now we service

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen high schools from New York City public schools. All

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<v Speaker 1>of them offer some kind of food education, which, as

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about, I'm not entirely sold on the fact

0:57:58.600 --> 0:58:00.360
<v Speaker 1>you should have to pay for So if you can

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<v Speaker 1>go to public high school and learn how to feed

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<v Speaker 1>yourself and your families, I think it's integral. Uh. Of

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<v Speaker 1>the students in these thirteen high schools are under the

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<v Speaker 1>poverty line, and we have over time gotten to the

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<v Speaker 1>point where we are supporting different aspects of their life,

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<v Speaker 1>not just education they get on a daily basis in

0:58:23.200 --> 0:58:25.880
<v Speaker 1>the high school, but internships that place them in paid

0:58:26.000 --> 0:58:28.720
<v Speaker 1>opportunities where they can work and help their family earn money.

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<v Speaker 1>And UM food pantries that serve us not just the

0:58:33.520 --> 0:58:37.360
<v Speaker 1>students but also their family. So it's really yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>really UM an incredible program. And when you see the outreach, like, yeah,

0:58:42.720 --> 0:58:47.360
<v Speaker 1>it's it's local, it's in Manhattan, but UM, all of

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<v Speaker 1>the students they're average commute time all of the students

0:58:50.240 --> 0:58:52.680
<v Speaker 1>commute in but their average commute time is close to

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<v Speaker 1>two hours. So when you think about how broad that

0:58:55.760 --> 0:58:58.040
<v Speaker 1>impact really can be in making a difference in these

0:58:58.120 --> 0:59:03.200
<v Speaker 1>kids lives, it's pretty incredible. They just little plug. They

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<v Speaker 1>are open. They just opened their cafe. They had a

0:59:05.640 --> 0:59:08.040
<v Speaker 1>student run cafe at the first high school, the Flagship

0:59:08.120 --> 0:59:10.600
<v Speaker 1>high School, and it's now in the Barclays Center. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you go to New York to see an event

0:59:12.680 --> 0:59:16.280
<v Speaker 1>or watch something at Barclays, you can have your cappuccino

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<v Speaker 1>from Food Education. They serve flat whites, for sure. I

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<v Speaker 1>love a flat white. Is there your coffee of choice?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, yes, I like a flat white. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>talking to racist. I'm talking about a drink. Somebody may

0:59:30.760 --> 0:59:33.200
<v Speaker 1>hear this. You go, somebody may say flat white. What

0:59:33.360 --> 0:59:35.960
<v Speaker 1>is he talking about. It's to drink people, It's to drink,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Not everybody's delicious one. It's fire sometimes like

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<v Speaker 1>I have two shots and then so I'll do a

0:59:45.880 --> 0:59:47.760
<v Speaker 1>flat white and then kill it and then add an

0:59:47.880 --> 0:59:52.680
<v Speaker 1>espresso and then they micro green. No they're not. They're

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<v Speaker 1>not do a workout. Workout. That's impressive. I'm before teaching camera.

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<v Speaker 1>I try not to do it because my knife on

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<v Speaker 1>my hands would be like if I drink that, first

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<v Speaker 1>of all, that's bad. Shaky hand and a knife. Yeah five, Hey, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we really appreciate you. One. Thank you, I Wane, Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, Jason, but really thank you. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>knew you were super cool to anybody be able to

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<v Speaker 1>handle Jason, to deal with him. He's a unique man.

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<v Speaker 1>My wife would probably say, I'm I'm unique as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And um, I've been friends with you a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>G you're unique. And and Joe, you damn sure unique

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<v Speaker 1>in a good way. But that's why God made us

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<v Speaker 1>and if we all were the same, life would be born.

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<v Speaker 1>So thank you so much. Really appreciate you, guys. This

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<v Speaker 1>was so much fun. You are a unique person. You

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