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Speaker 3: The what's the verybody?

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Fantasy Flex Podcast from the Action Network

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Speaker 2: Fantasy Abs.

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Speaker 3: I'm your host, Chris Raybon.

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Speaker 2: This is NFL Week fourteen, our player at Projections episode.

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Speaker 3: As always, I'm joined by one of the most accurate.

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Speaker 2: Projectors and rankers in the game, the adds maker, Sean Kerner.

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Speaker 3: Sean, how's it going pretty good?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Last week kind of felt like two weeks in one. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: the three game site and the Friday game. But now

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Speaker 4: once again we have one of my favorite weeks, a

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Speaker 4: six team bye week. That means just more time to

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Speaker 4: like dive into like fewer matchups, So always love these weeks.

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Speaker 1: Is this actually the last week of buys or do

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Speaker 1: we have one more?

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Speaker 2: That's a good question. I think this is the last week.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they would have week fifteen buys. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: let me check that real quick.

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure this is it this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this is the last week the Ravens, Broncos, Texans, Colts, Patriots,

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Speaker 2: and Washington Commanders. So a lot of good quarterbacks are

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Speaker 2: on by this week, and we'll jump right into quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Our top five guys are high, loan and a prop.

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Speaker 2: We'll do it for every position. Quick reminder. All of

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Speaker 2: our fantasy football content, including our award winning rankings and projections,

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Speaker 2: available right now over on Fantasy labs dot com. Again, rankings, projections,

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Speaker 2: more Fantasy labs dot com. All Right, Quarterback top five

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Speaker 2: Week fourteen. Who you got, Sean all Right.

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Speaker 4: I got Jalen Hurts, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Kyler Murray,

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Speaker 3: I got Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 2: So just flip flop those two. Burrow and then Donald Murray.

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Speaker 2: So flip fop front two foot flops back to Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, interesting top five of though, these bods.

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Speaker 3: Huh, Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Should we put Josh Allen at receiver though? Is he

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Speaker 2: a receiver or a quarterback right?

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Speaker 1: But good.

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Speaker 2: What do you see a Mariy Cooper finally contribute something

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Speaker 4: Who Yeah, high on I'm high on Caleb Williams, you

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Speaker 4: know against the Niners here. He's coming off one of

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Speaker 4: the worst slash controversial plays of the week, which sort

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Speaker 4: of overshadowed just how good he's been the past couple

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Speaker 4: Yeah with this new coaching regime, which has been completely

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Speaker 4: I think, you know, this is their first game on

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Speaker 4: But yeah, he opens the week as my QB ten

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Speaker 3: And I'm high on Sam Darnold this week.

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Speaker 3: They play a lot of his own coverage.

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Speaker 4: Lower on Jordan Love this week at Detroit and he's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's actually be nine, so a little higher than you,

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Speaker 2: Jordan Love. But another thing to point out is the Packers.

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Speaker 2: So you know, this could be another game where the

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Speaker 2: He is my QB thirteen at Kansas City. He's the

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Speaker 2: Have factored in, but his receivers just be letting them down. Man.

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Speaker 2: So I just don't see a ton of upside for Herbert.

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Speaker 2: we saw the Chargers offense really, I would say the

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Speaker 2: moment the Chargers' offense really started going downhill, who's at JK.

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Speaker 4: Well for some reason with Alb Kamarad of Saquon Barkley,

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Speaker 4: I am not nearly as Grenda as here, so you

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Speaker 3: All right, who are you low on it? Running back?

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Speaker 1: Lesson learned.

439
00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,480
Speaker 4: But yeah, thank god for those two ty Chandler runs,

440
00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 4: because that would have clearly put Acres over twenty two

441
00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:56,400
Speaker 4: and a half.

442
00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:56,919
Speaker 3: Yeah.

443
00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:02,679
Speaker 2: And another player I'm well on at running back, you know,

444
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,679
Speaker 2: kind of in the same boat. He's kind of just

445
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,879
Speaker 2: losing some of the workload he had earlier in the

446
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:13,439
Speaker 2: year is Rashad White, and he is my RB twenty

447
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 2: seven this week he's the ECR RB twenty two.

448
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 3: Now.

449
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 2: A couple of things working against White. Number one Bucky Irving,

450
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:26,120
Speaker 2: who I know, you just love. He's looked amazing. I mean,

451
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,600
Speaker 2: he just he's another guy popping off the screen. So

452
00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 2: Bucky Irving is overtaken White for the you know, early

453
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 2: down role now and because of that, you know you

454
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 2: play more early down. Naturally, you're just going to play

455
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 2: more past snaps, period. So White has seen a decrease

456
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 2: in carries. He's seen a decrease in past snaps as well,

457
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 2: so heard on both fronts. And their seven point favorites

458
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,640
Speaker 2: against the Las Vegas Raiders, only two hundred and twenty

459
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 2: eight of White's seven hundred and twenty two scrimmageyards, so

460
00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,879
Speaker 2: just over thirty percent, have come when the Bucks are leading.

461
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:00,920
Speaker 2: Only one of his six touchdowns has come when the

462
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,920
Speaker 2: Bucks are leading. And we over the past couple weeks,

463
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 2: we've seen Bucky irving and at the goal line, and

464
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 2: we've seen Sean Tucker and at the goal line against

465
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 2: the Giants. And this is a game against the Raiders

466
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,640
Speaker 2: where it could get out of hand or Tucker could

467
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 2: just be back on the offensive in the offensive game.

468
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 1: Point.

469
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,120
Speaker 2: Remember he fumbled I believe it was against the Giants,

470
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 2: so he was kind of just reduced to kickoff.

471
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 3: Returns for the Panthers game.

472
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 2: But they did say coming out of the by that

473
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 2: they want to get Tucker more involved, so that might

474
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,879
Speaker 2: have been a one game thing, and any snaps Tucker

475
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 2: gets isn't going to hurt White more at this point

476
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 2: because he's already seeing our reduction just from irving so

477
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 2: lower on Rashad White this week.

478
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 3: All right, we're going for the running back prop.

479
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 4: We were going straight to Isaac Grendo and his rushing yards,

480
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 4: just gauging the temperature, which, ironically enough, I'll go with

481
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 4: room temp seventy two and a half rushing yards. I'm

482
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 4: afraid you're going to be way over that, but that's

483
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 4: what I'm gonna set.

484
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm over. I'm at ninety one.

485
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

486
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't getting eighteen twenty carries.

487
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 1: And like really good efficiency to boot.

488
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think well, my mine

489
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 4: is probably closer to what the market will be, yours

490
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 4: is probably closer to what like reality will be.

491
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that might be an over.

492
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 2: I have to look at I don't like taking of

493
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 2: those big overs, but uh yeah, I mean you look

494
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 2: at the state of the Niners offense and season.

495
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 3: I just don't know what choice they have Patrick Taylor.

496
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 2: I just don't see him getting more than like twenty

497
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 2: five percent max of the works Candle run.

498
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 1: Like the passing down work. Maybe yeah, Yeah, just like.

499
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,880
Speaker 2: Grendo even was handling that, you know, you know, like

500
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 2: in like when McCaffrey was back, it was like Grendo

501
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,919
Speaker 2: Moore on passing downs and Mason Moore on running down.

502
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 3: So I can see Girendo just playing.

503
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 1: Oh this is what I was.

504
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 4: Going to ask you. Uh, like what about Deebo Samuel?

505
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 4: Is he going to go back to seeing a few

506
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 4: carries or what? Because I don't think he's seen a

507
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 4: carrying definitely last week a couple of games. Yeah, it's

508
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,360
Speaker 4: been it's been three games since he got a carric

509
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 4: for minus one yard, So like do they bring that

510
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 4: back or like what do you think they'll.

511
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 1: Do with that?

512
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 2: I have him getting like around his season average of

513
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:28,919
Speaker 2: carries or you know, carry share, but I don't know,

514
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:29,400
Speaker 2: you know.

515
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 3: Honestly, he doesn't.

516
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 2: He hasn't looked one hundred percent, And I think I

517
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 2: think the hesitation is he hasn't been effective this year.

518
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 2: It's almost like, you know, Shanahan loves to use his

519
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,199
Speaker 2: favorite plays, and I just think defenses are kind of

520
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 2: it's like a tip off almost because you're not going

521
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 2: to play Debo in the backfield.

522
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 3: Every play because with that Yuke down.

523
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 2: You need Debo on the outside because Pierso, you know,

524
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 2: he's coming along slow as a rookie. H so you know,

525
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 2: and now you have Jennings as your number one receiver

526
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 2: and like he's been playing great there, but if you

527
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 2: take Debo from out wide, you're really kind of compromising

528
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 2: your wide receivers. So I just think it's kind of

529
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 2: one of those situations where it's just not hasn't been

530
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 2: too beneficial for the offense to do it anymore because

531
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 2: he's not been effective.

532
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 3: So yeah, I have, but yeah.

533
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 4: It seems like every time they line up that play,

534
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 4: they just hand them the ball like there's no creativity.

535
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 4: Like I can't remember the last time he was lining

536
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 4: up in the backfield and they threw it. Kind of

537
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 4: what you were saying, they you know, put more pressure

538
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 4: on the wide receivers, but it's just kind of too predictable.

539
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 4: Like Deebo's back there, they give them the ball and

540
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 4: he goes for one yard like okay, great, glad you

541
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 4: did that. But it just seems like that formation itself

542
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 4: isn't working. So yeah, like with McCaffrey and Mason out,

543
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:47,719
Speaker 4: I don't I don't know why they would go back

544
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 4: to that, but just again like there's so much uncertainty

545
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 4: now with both running backs out that I could see

546
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 4: them do that, but who knows.

547
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think the thing I look at

548
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 2: is like, you know, in the past, when McCaffrey's been out,

549
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 2: it's been like you know, okay, you know, guys are

550
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 2: next up, and so this is there gonna be a

551
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 2: kind of a committee. So no, it's been Elijah Mitchell

552
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 2: for all the carries, and it's Jordan Mason all the

553
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,479
Speaker 2: I guess it's that's usually how it starts.

554
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 3: So I'm just kind of going off that.

555
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 2: Oh, but I do have I do have Samuel getting

556
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 2: a couple of couple of carries this game.

557
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 4: Is uh, is Mitchell like done done? Is he out

558
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 4: for the season or can you Okay.

559
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's long gone.

560
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: Just wanted to make.

561
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 4: Sure there wasn't that possibility. And yeah, realized I don't

562
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 4: like on the under I don't like the fact'm on

563
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 4: the under there wide receiver. I got Jamar Chase A. J. Brown,

564
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 4: Justin Jefferson Son God, and.

565
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 2: I got Chase sun God, Justin Jefferson, Mike Evans, and yeah,

566
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 2: I don't have a top five, just because I don't

567
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,479
Speaker 2: know exactly what's up with uh with Devonte Smithia and

568
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,199
Speaker 2: I mean Jalen Hurts is he's like throwing for one

569
00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 2: hundred yards of game.

570
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 3: Now this is the worst run defense.

571
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 2: So I'm a little just a real concerned with the

572
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 2: volume for aj.

573
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 4: But h yeah, yeah that's fair enough. How how close

574
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 4: was George Pickens to your top five? He's my wide

575
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,360
Speaker 4: receiver six, Just curious for.

576
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: That's a good question. Let's see, he is a top

577
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: five for me?

578
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 3: Now is thirteen for me? A little a little further down?

579
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's a there's still a bunch of

580
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 2: guys that I mean, I got Cooper Cup, Tyreek Hill,

581
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 2: Drake London, A J.

582
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 3: Brown, Lamb.

583
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 2: Like there's a bunch of guys between Higgins Higgins t Higgins.

584
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 2: Yeah so yeah, yeah, but uh yeah, because I mean Pickens, Yeah,

585
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 2: he's this is a great spot for him, but fucking

586
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,439
Speaker 2: toggling telling him to grow up.

587
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 3: I don't I hope that doesn't affect a snap count.

588
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 3: But you never know.

589
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 2: To get those two penalties last week, so I want

590
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 2: to hear more going into the week.

591
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,959
Speaker 3: But who are you high on a receiver?

592
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: Uh?

593
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 4: Well, It's been a while since I've been able to

594
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 4: say this, but Brian Thomas Junior, you know, he's been

595
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 4: let down by QB play recently, and that you know,

596
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 4: probably won't change anytime soon, assuming it'll be Mac Jones

597
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 4: under center this week. But he was able to overcome

598
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 4: it last week. Still posted a solid line four catches,

599
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 4: seventy six yards and a touchdown, But man, he left

600
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 4: a lot on the field. Mac Jones overthrew him on

601
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 4: a potential wide open seven yard touchdown. He had an

602
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 4: uncarre uncharacteristic drop on another wide open, you know, twenty

603
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 4: plus yard play, nearly caught another twenty plus yard touchdown,

604
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 4: so I realized, you know, air yards are worth zero

605
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 4: fancy points by themselves. But again, he's just almost had

606
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 4: a massive game. I still think we'll see one or

607
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 4: two more just monster games from him this season. You know,

608
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 4: the Titans aren't really a plus matchup, but they've been

609
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 4: giving up you know, solid production a high end wide receiver,

610
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 4: which I think Brian Thomas Junior is quickly becoming. So

611
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 4: you know, he's a low end wide receiver two for

612
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 4: me this week, but again, just missing on some really

613
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 4: big plays here.

614
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: Recently.

615
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 4: Another guy I'm high on is Christian Watson against the Lions,

616
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 4: And you know I mentioned how the Lions play, you know,

617
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 4: the most man coverage, and Jordan loves struggles against it.

618
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:19,959
Speaker 4: Watson has been their man beater. He's the only Packers

619
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 4: pass catcher that gets a boost against man coverage. And

620
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 4: he ranks seventeenth in the league in yards per route

621
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 4: run against man coverage. So you know, he opens the

622
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 4: weeks my wide receiver thirty seven, so he's in that

623
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 4: wide receiver three flex mix. But you know, he's a

624
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 4: boom bus option I think is more likely to boom

625
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 4: this week, and it's if you're an underdog that's you know,

626
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 4: one wants.

627
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: To take a shot on him.

628
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 4: It's kind of nice to do that on Thursday early

629
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 4: in the week because if he has a really big game,

630
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 4: you might become the favorite and you might know, Okay,

631
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 4: I can be a little bit more conservative in my

632
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 4: decisions going forward, kind of like going for two earlier

633
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 4: on in the game as opposed to late.

634
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: So I think it's kind of sneaky.

635
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 4: Us Watson Thursday night if you're going for that big

636
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 4: game and if he doesn't get it, o well, but

637
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 4: I think he's more likely to have a big game here.

638
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 2: I like that fan those fantasy analytics there, lineup, line

639
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 2: up analytics.

640
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 3: I agree.

641
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 2: I think I've watched in exactly the same rank too,

642
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 2: Ares for thirty seven, which is I always find it

643
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 2: interesting when it's when he gets the guys in like

644
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 2: those thirties, and it's like you're right on with the market,

645
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 2: right on with.

646
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 3: You know, somebody else. But yeah, I have oh, no.

647
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 2: Excuse me, I have Watson thirty six. I have Dobbs

648
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 2: thirty seven, so I have up. Yeah, but I think

649
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 2: Watson's just getting back to where he was a couple

650
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,479
Speaker 2: of years ago, where he's they're just realizing they got

651
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 2: to have him on the field like he you know,

652
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 2: they were they were splitting snaps with him and Dantavian Wicks.

653
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 2: But Watson's really pulled the head and he had that

654
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 2: one really bad game against the Niners a couple of

655
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 2: games ago, but sandwiched between you know, four for one

656
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 2: fifty and two for sixty seven. And so this is

657
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 2: a game where I, like you said, I do expect

658
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 2: him to have to throw. They've been in some Leaion

659
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 2: game scripts so that that could be very, very beneficial

660
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 2: for his outlook.

661
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 3: And you know, they got gave.

662
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 2: Him a rushing attempt a couple weeks ago, so that

663
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 2: just kind of shows they're trying to get they're trying

664
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 2: to get the ball in his hands.

665
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 4: And is even hamstrings are holding up. I'm gon knock

666
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 4: on with though, but yeah, I remember he had that

667
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 4: like offseason.

668
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: H yeah, down work done.

669
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, So those have been healthy this year, so it

670
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 4: seems to be working out for him.

671
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 3: I am high on kaloshak here this week.

672
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 2: He is my wide receiver twenty two. He's twenty sixth

673
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 2: in ECR. They're facing a Rams team who plays zone

674
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 2: coverage at the top five rate. Chakir twenty nine percent

675
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 2: target rate against the zone coverage weeds the team, three

676
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 2: hundred and seven receiving yards against zone weeds the team.

677
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: So they probably get some guys back this week, maybe Coleman,

678
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:58,239
Speaker 2: maybe Kincaid, But Kaloshakir in these kind of matchups, he

679
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 2: doesn't really miss. You know, they're they're not. There's not

680
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 2: gonna be many incompletions going his way.

681
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 3: I think he's still what.

682
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: Is his catch rate on the year, something stupid?

683
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 2: No, No, it's down, it's down to just yeah, but

684
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,479
Speaker 2: you know he's uh. He's averaging five point five catches

685
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 2: for fifty seven zero point two yards per game, and

686
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 2: against a zone covered team like the Rams, I think

687
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 2: he'll be able.

688
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 3: To beat those averages.

689
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 2: So, like Shakir Uh this week, even in a maybe

690
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 2: somewhat crowded Bill's past pass catcher of course, but remember

691
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 2: this is a this is an indoor game after just

692
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 2: playing the snow and running around all crazy, so you

693
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 2: could actually see the Bill's passing game come to life

694
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 2: here a little bit more than we've seen.

695
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 3: So, like Shakir, who are you low on Sean?

696
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 4: I'm low on Tyreek Hill against the Jets and you know,

697
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 4: he had a solid six catch, eighty three yard touchdown game,

698
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 4: you know, on Thanksgiving, but he obviously hasn't lived up

699
00:32:58,880 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 4: to his top.

700
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: Five draft capital.

701
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 4: And you know, the thing with Tyreek is he's typically

702
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 4: only running around on you know, like eighty percent of

703
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 4: to his dropbacks. He's not really a full time player,

704
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 4: which is kind of annoying. And he's only seen more

705
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 4: than a twenty percent target share once over the last

706
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 4: five games. And I think people, you know, overlook how

707
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 4: you know less top heavy this offense is this year.

708
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 4: It used to be just Tyreek and Jen and Waddle

709
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 4: dominating targets. But they have you know, tight end John

710
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 4: new Smith commanding, you know, a pretty big target share,

711
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 4: and a running back in Davon a Chan commanding a

712
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 4: pretty big target share. So even rookie Malik Washington starting

713
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 4: to see some pretty consistent usage week to weeks. So

714
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 4: that's just taking away from Tyreek Hill where he's a

715
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 4: little bit more volatile. So I'm treating him like a

716
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 4: you know, a solid wide receiver too, which you know

717
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 4: is not what you're hoping for when he drafted him

718
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 4: in the first round. But you know, I love to

719
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 4: see him kind of be on the upswing here, but

720
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 4: I don't think he's going to get back to that

721
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:03,239
Speaker 4: consistent five production, especially you know, tough match up here

722
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 4: against the Jets. Another guy I'm low on, which you

723
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 4: were really low on last week and call there was

724
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 4: Amari Cooper. I laughed when you said he was your

725
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 4: wide receiver sixty seven. I looked he was like my

726
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 4: wide receiver fifty ninth.

727
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: So was an agreement?

728
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 3: Didn't he finish around then?

729
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, like probably lower than that. Yeah, again he

730
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: got zero point.

731
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 4: Well he got like what point four points for oh yeah, yeah,

732
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 4: depending on your format, he got like a point for that, uh,

733
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 4: zero point for a touchdown pass or whatever.

734
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: So that didn't help you in fantasy.

735
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 4: But uh, you know, he's still on that sixty to

736
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,760
Speaker 4: sixty five percent routes run rate, and like you mentioned,

737
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 4: Coleman and Kincaid might return this week, so it's just

738
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,919
Speaker 4: gonna be tougher for him to draw consistent targets now,

739
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 4: Like there might be a game, there might be one

740
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 4: or two games the rest of the season where he

741
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 4: just goes off, but we have no way of predicting

742
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 4: which ones those are. So he's just better off being,

743
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 4: you know, left on your bench. He's probably like a

744
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 4: nice dart throw.

745
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,760
Speaker 1: And GPPs and dfs.

746
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 4: But for season on fantasy, you know, good luck trying

747
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 4: to figure out when he's gonna have a good game.

748
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 1: Here.

749
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 4: Just the usage just making it really tough to trust

750
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 4: him anything higher than like, why is he over forty

751
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 4: right now?

752
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,959
Speaker 3: Yeah? It's it's it's been it's been a really tough

753
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 3: year to predict these.

754
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 2: Like, first of all, the guys who like it's been

755
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 2: a bad year for guys who are stashed and like

756
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 2: you know, they were out for the first part of

757
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 2: the year.

758
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: But it's also been a.

759
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 2: Bad year for guys who were traded, Like Noa Hopkins

760
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 2: has not played a like a normal snap game. Cooper

761
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 2: has not played a normal snap game. Yantarey Johnson got

762
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:43,919
Speaker 2: zero snaps even with Bateman going down. Mike Walliams is they.

763
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: Have four fourteen yards.

764
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 3: Mike Wahams didn't get a single stat.

765
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I didn't even think of that.

766
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is it's at this Keaton Mitchell, well, I

767
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 2: guess he's a he was not a trade, but you know,

768
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 2: like he was at and active like just it's some

769
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 2: of a lot of these guys that were just expecting

770
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 2: to kind of eventually trend up. It's just going the

771
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 2: opposite direction. So Cooper, I actually was a little bit encouraged.

772
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 2: I think before they put like Reggie Gilliaman and the backup,

773
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 2: so I think Cooper was at like a seventy one

774
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 2: percent rate, which would be his highest. Yeah, so I

775
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,479
Speaker 2: have him get around there for this week, but I agree,

776
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 2: it's still very low floor and still not really a

777
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 2: guy like you can't really start him like he's a

778
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 2: Verry Cooper, which is is disappointing.

779
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 3: I am low on Parker Washington.

780
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 2: I you know, I know he had a big game

781
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 2: last week, but he's my wide receiver fifty five.

782
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 3: He's intro towards the top forty in ECR.

783
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 2: But I don't think it's super repeatable for the you know,

784
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 2: for Washington because you mentioned Brian Thomas left a lot

785
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 2: on the table.

786
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 3: I think Ingram could be more involved.

787
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 2: And you know Wash, he's one of those guys where

788
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 2: it's like, okay, he's you know, he starts the game,

789
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 2: catches the defense off guard. Now, I just think there's

790
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 2: gonna be you know, a lot more ten paid to

791
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 2: him this week. So he's my wide receiver fifty five.

792
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 2: Don't love the match. And it's also it could be

793
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 2: a low scoring game. The totals are dipping under forty here.

794
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 2: And another guy is Quentin Johnston. I know, you know,

795
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 2: he'll probably be popular, especially with Maconkey's out, but I

796
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 2: think he's some really worrisome kind of trends with him.

797
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 2: Number one is his snap rate, after kind of trending

798
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 2: up when he came back from injury, is now starting

799
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 2: to trend down. Again, and he continues to have you know,

800
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 2: drop issues, and Chiefs do play a decent amount of

801
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 2: man coverage. But and Johnson Johnston, you know, he he

802
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 2: has a very high target rate against man covered.

803
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 3: I think it's over thirty percent.

804
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 2: But he's caught four of twenty one passes against man coverage.

805
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 2: And I just I just worry that they're gonna start

806
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,720
Speaker 2: going away from him. That you saw DJ Shark active,

807
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 2: and the coach keeps kind of saying DJ Shark is

808
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 2: terrible and guys are out playing them. But I think

809
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 2: at some point, like just looking at the the usage

810
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 2: from week to week, like Darius Davis is trending up,

811
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 2: Raiger has been trending up for a while, Chark is

812
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 2: now trending up in terms of using Palmer, is even

813
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 2: you know.

814
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 3: Trending up.

815
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 2: So at any given point, there's options if you want to,

816
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 2: you know, put Johnson on the bench if you're the charges,

817
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 2: even if Maconkey misses. So, uh yeah, I think he

818
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,439
Speaker 2: I think he's probably gonna be a little bit over

819
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 2: overrated this week, so I'm trying to fade him as well.

820
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 2: All right, prop time, I got a good one, I

821
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 2: got a good one. So mentioned all these detraded guys.

822
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:37,879
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you receiving yards Amari Cooper plus Mike

823
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 2: Williams for DeAndre Hopkins. So like DeAndre Hopkins versus Amari

824
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 2: plus Mike.

825
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 1: Mike, Oh, the lot. There's a lot of moving pieces here.

826
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: I think they.

827
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 2: Would come out about equal though, if you projected them out.

828
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 2: So like, that's why I'm curious.

829
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 4: For the Bills, who the hell knows if coleman or

830
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:02,720
Speaker 4: can catle return, right, huh. I'm projecting Calvin Ausin for stats,

831
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 4: but he's probably out fifty five. Hopkins was like the

832
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,280
Speaker 4: only prop I lost this week by spectacular fashion too.

833
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: He absolutely, yeah, that's.

834
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 3: About of targets when he's in the game. But the routes, man, yeah.

835
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: I have Yeah, I have about fifty five.

836
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 4: Man, I'm gonna go with Cooper plus mich Williams. But yeah, okay, close,

837
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 4: it's very close. That's a great prop.

838
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's just an interesting one because I

839
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 2: have trouble projecting all three of those guys. So, so

840
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 2: you said you have about fifty five Formari and Mike combined, Yeah,

841
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 2: and I think there's.

842
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, just trying to factor in like all the

843
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 4: different possibilities right now, I'm projecting Coleman and Kinkaid to

844
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 4: fully play. Yeah, and like I said, I have Calvin

845
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 4: Asen in there, so I'm just boosting it little bit

846
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 4: based on that. But the one wide receiver you didn't

847
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 4: mention he doesn't play this week, Deontay Johnson.

848
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, we should.

849
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 4: We should try to guess which team he's going to

850
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 4: play for next because I think that's kind of what's

851
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 4: going on here, right.

852
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 2: I mean, is he over under like five more catches

853
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 2: for the rest of the year, Yeah.

854
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: For which team? I don't think he's like.

855
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 3: Oh you think, Oh, do you think something's going on

856
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 3: with him at Bolt I.

857
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 4: Read I read that like he didn't play a snap

858
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 4: and Harbaugh was being kind of big about it. I

859
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 4: think that he like demanded a trade, like he's already

860
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 4: pissed and out of there.

861
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: I think that's why he played zero snaps. But Bateman's hurt.

862
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: They're on a bye.

863
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on there, but he might

864
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 4: he might be on the move again, who knows. Yeah,

865
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 4: there's something like kind of dropping, you know, ad situation.

866
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 4: Who knows?

867
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that's I mean it is it is head

868
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 2: scratching because I mean I think he's I think he's

869
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,760
Speaker 2: a guy who can get open, and like all, Lamar

870
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 2: Jackson needs his guys who can get open. I mean,

871
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 2: did you see it throw to Mark Andrews in the

872
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 2: in the end zone. I just like, like Labar Jackson

873
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 2: doesn't need much. So the fact that he's not being

874
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 2: able to crack the lot yet there has to be

875
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 2: something deeper going on. But these traded guys are just

876
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 2: is just it's just it's just has been a shit show.

877
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 2: Let's be honest here with some of these guys.

878
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 3: I mean, Hopkins has.

879
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 2: Been bailing people out, you know, because he's been playing

880
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 2: like fifty sixty percent of snaps. But he'll put up

881
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 2: some good games. That's I guess that's the Mahomes effect.

882
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 2: But Cooper's been disappointing. Mike Williams has been disappointing. Deyonta,

883
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 2: I mean, he's yeah, this it's been not good looking

884
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,400
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895
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 2: Week fourteen.

896
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: We got all right, so.

897
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:22,720
Speaker 4: It's brought Bowers, massive drop off, Travis Kelce, Train McBride,

898
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 4: George Kittle, David Joku.

899
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 2: I got, yeah, Bowers, McBride, Kelsey Kittle, and John Usmith.

900
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 4: Baby, is that the first time in your top five

901
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 4: or second?

902
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 3: Got? I think it's the first.

903
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 2: I think I ended rank I think I ended with

904
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 2: a rank of seven last week for him, So yeah,

905
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 2: this is definitely and that was like that moved up

906
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 2: as you know the week progressed.

907
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm pretty sure it this first time. Who

908
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 3: are high on?

909
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 4: I'm high on a guy that I mentioned the Waivers pod,

910
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 4: but it's Juwan Johnson just because you know, this Taysom

911
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 4: Hill injury is gonna just provide him with even more

912
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 4: playing time, probably more targets. But you know, he ran

913
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,720
Speaker 4: a route on eighty percent of Derrek Carr dropbacks last week,

914
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 4: and just with the wide receiver room just being decimated

915
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 4: extremely thin, he's there to facto like number two receiver,

916
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 4: I would say, and MBS is just kind of the

917
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 4: deep threat. So Juan Johnson has a shot to lead

918
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 4: the non Alvin Kamara players in targets here. So he

919
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 4: just has massive upside right now with with Hill being out,

920
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 4: with six teams on buy and a pretty good matchup.

921
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 4: You know, the Giants rank twenty eighth and DBA against

922
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 4: tight end, so he's almost inside my top twelve.

923
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: He's my tight end thirteen of the week.

924
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 4: So I think he's a good you know, one week

925
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 4: rental and maybe this turns into something where he's providing

926
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 4: you know, low end tight end one value the rest

927
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 4: of the way.

928
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: We'll see.

929
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, he he was trending up a couple

930
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 2: of years ago and then you know, now then they

931
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, Tasoon became a tight end and

932
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 2: they got Moreau, who's cars guy from Vegas. So it's yeah,

933
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 2: he has he's been kind of boxed into a fifty

934
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 2: percent snap rate these last few years.

935
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 3: But yeah, it was good to see him up at eighty.

936
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 2: I think that is definitely a sign because he does

937
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 2: have some talent and he's like one of those converted

938
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 2: wide receivers, so could could be a big upside play

939
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 2: for the rest of the year. So I like that call.

940
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 2: I'm high on Sam Laporta. He is my tight end

941
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 2: seven ECR tighten nine man. I mean, talk about rough years,

942
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 2: Sam Laporta. People drafted him over Kelsey in spots. This year,

943
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 2: he's been kind of disappointing, but came through the double

944
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 2: with a multi touchdown game last week, and I think

945
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 2: he's trending up here. He's played eighty five percent, he's

946
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 2: runner rowd excuse me, an eighty five percent of the

947
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,720
Speaker 2: dropbacks two weeks in a row since coming back from injury.

948
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 2: And now he has a matchup against the Green Bay

949
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 2: Packers indoors, a team that ranks thirtieth in DVOA against

950
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 2: tight ends, twenty seventh in schedule adjusted receiving yards per

951
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,959
Speaker 2: game allowed to tight ends at sixty three point six

952
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 2: according to FTN, so good matchup. He are never going

953
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 2: to be the number one or even number two concern

954
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 2: of a defense, because you gotta worry about Sun God,

955
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 2: you gotta worry about Jamiir Gibbs. And at this point,

956
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 2: I mean, Montgomery's playing really well too so and then

957
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 2: Jamison Williams back taking the top off. So just a

958
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 2: really good, I think situation for Laporta to kind of

959
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 2: go under the radar and pick up, you know, some

960
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 2: some good production here in a high total game. So

961
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 2: I like Laporta, especially with all these tight ends on buy.

962
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 2: I think he's getting back to where he was last season.

963
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 2: Who are you low on at tight end?

964
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: I'm altoon on TJ. Hawkinson.

965
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 4: He's my tight end nine, so you know you're gonna

966
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 4: play him if you have him. But it was a

967
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 4: bit concerning to see his playing time come back down

968
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 4: closer to seventy percent routes run last week, despite you know,

969
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 4: backup tight end Josh Oliver being out again. So it's

970
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 4: pretty clear the Vikings are probably still wanting to limit

971
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 4: him coming off the ACL tear last year. You know,

972
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 4: it doesn't mean that he can't still post top ten

973
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 4: numbers with that kind of usage. He absolutely can and

974
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 4: you know has been, but he just might not be

975
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 4: the consistent top five option we all know he can

976
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 4: be in the full time role and kind of settling

977
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 4: in more as a you know, lower end tight end one,

978
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 4: which again, if you have him, great, you got to

979
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,919
Speaker 4: play him, but a little bit lower this week tight

980
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 4: end nine despite you know, six teams on a buy.

981
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 4: So I would say I'm low on TJ. Hockinson.

982
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that the thing with Hockinson is, you know,

983
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 2: the Vikings are a little bit more multiple this year

984
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 2: in their in their personnel, and Hockinson is playing like

985
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 2: the normal one to one personnel, you know, three wide

986
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 2: receivers one yeah, tight end. He's playing that like every

987
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 2: snap pretty much as you'd expect. But when he go

988
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 2: into heavy so you know one two with two tight ends,

989
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 2: it's usually the other two. It's usually like Mont and

990
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 2: Oliver or Mont and Nick Muse whoever's up as that

991
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 2: number three tight end. And then that continued even with

992
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 2: Oliver out last week and then too to one personnel.

993
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 3: So when you have like CJ.

994
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 2: Ham in the game at full back with the running

995
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,959
Speaker 2: back and then you have a tight end, they usually

996
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 2: use either Oliver, Munch or Musing that too, because that's

997
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 2: more of a you know, blocking tight end kind of

998
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 2: situation there. So Hackinson essentially has only been playing in

999
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 2: one one. He's he's Jayden Reed. He's Jayden Reed. Uh,

1000
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. His snaps are it's gonna

1001
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 2: be hard to get him. It's gonna be hard to

1002
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 2: get above seventy percent investor in a trailing game script

1003
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 2: or something like that for him. I'm all on Cole

1004
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 2: Komet he is my tight end sixteen. I know he's,

1005
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 2: you know, playing pretty much all the snaps these days

1006
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 2: for the Bears, and Kable Williams is playing better, but

1007
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,439
Speaker 2: the Nyers are still I think gonna be a They're

1008
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 2: a low volume team against tight ends, you know. Uh,

1009
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 2: Dawston Knox actually led the Bills and receiving on that

1010
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 2: in that snow game, but he only caught I think

1011
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 2: it was two passes. And Fred Warners one of the

1012
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 2: guys still left standing for that Niner defense. They're number

1013
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 2: ten in DVOA against tight ends that you always expect

1014
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 2: them to be up there near the league league and

1015
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 2: they're allowing six fewest schedule adjusted targets to tight ends

1016
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 2: per game according to FTN. So just I don't I

1017
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 2: don't expect the high volume role for him. And you

1018
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:12,240
Speaker 2: know the touchdowns he's had, uh, if I remember correctly,

1019
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 2: I think he had was a two in that London game.

1020
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 3: One of them was schemed to open.

1021
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 2: It was like a you know, a fake one way,

1022
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 2: fake the other way and then throw him right over

1023
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 2: the middle with you know, the linebacker kind of biting.

1024
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 2: And another one was just I think a busted coverage.

1025
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 2: So I don't know if he's a great bet for

1026
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 2: a touchdown here. And Caleb, most of his success has

1027
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 2: been uh, kind of ignoring underneath guys and just go

1028
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 2: and just went in and fly to these receivers, which

1029
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 2: I don't blame them.

1030
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 3: I don't blame them at all.

1031
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 2: So tough tough to to trust co combt for for

1032
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 2: me this week or really any tight end against the Niners.

1033
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 2: I usually expect him to go below expectation. All right,

1034
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 2: prop what you got for tight ends?

1035
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:54,479
Speaker 4: Let's go with Juwan Johnson versus Kyle Pitt's receiving yards. Yeah,

1036
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 4: just tell me which one's gonna have more?

1037
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 3: My have we fallen?

1038
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 2: If we're Kyle Pitts, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna still

1039
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 2: go coll Pits here. Uh so a couple of one.

1040
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 2: I guess the thing working in Pitts favor is this

1041
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 2: does project to be a trailing game script and he

1042
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 2: you know, Pitts has been leaving the field a lot

1043
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 2: more and just like neutral and and running situations.

1044
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 3: But the Falcons could get behind to the Vikings here.

1045
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 2: And uh the Giants, you know, they've been bad on

1046
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 2: like an efficiency basis against Titans, but they haven't good

1047
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 2: at womiting the volume. They do have Ocara, Kay, they

1048
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 2: do have a good slot corner which Johnson could match

1049
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 2: up with, you know in the slot. Uh So, uh yeah,

1050
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 2: I think I think Johnson just on just because he's

1051
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 2: still you know, bat like Moro, I think is a

1052
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 2: bigger threat than Werner. But it's it's closer than it

1053
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 2: should be. I'll definitely give you that. But yeah, I

1054
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 2: still have a decent almost like a reception's worth of

1055
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 2: yards gap between them. I'm a little higher on pitch, like,

1056
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 2: you know, just kind of a bounce back week. The

1057
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 2: coach was talking him up. You know, he said he

1058
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 2: did win some routes h last week and he wasn't targeted,

1059
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 2: which kind of leads me to believe it was just

1060
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 2: another one of you know, Kirk Cousins was not sharp

1061
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 2: at all last we really hasn't been for weeks now.

1062
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 3: But I do think you might see some little squeaky

1063
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 3: wheel for for Pitts. So I'll go with Kyle here.

1064
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't feel good.

1065
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:19,879
Speaker 3: It doesn't feel good.

1066
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: No, it shouldn't feel good.

1067
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 4: And I have pets a few yards higher, but I

1068
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:27,399
Speaker 4: just think that Johnson probably has the higher floor where

1069
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 4: it's like, which tight end is more likely to go

1070
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 4: for fifty plus yards, I would absolutely say Pitts. But

1071
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 4: when it comes to like head to head median battle,

1072
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 4: it's a lot closer than people think.

1073
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think.

1074
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:40,959
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1075
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 2: That's the reason I guess I have Pitt's hires, Yeah,

1076
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 2: for that is that reason. I think he's a good

1077
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 2: bet for like at least one explosive play. You know,

1078
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 2: the Vikings love to bring pressure, and I could that

1079
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 2: could read to some just weird matchup single coverage, and

1080
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 2: Pitts can play, you know, kind of a wide receiver

1081
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 2: role which they've struggled with.

1082
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 3: So yeah, but I don't feel good about it, and

1083
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 3: neither should anyone else.

1084
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 2: Good, Hope you could just bench Kyle pits if you

1085
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 2: if you're doing good, you probably don't have compits on

1086
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 2: your team in the first place.

1087
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: Very true.

1088
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,720
Speaker 2: All right, Ted is gonna do it for our NFL

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