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Speaker 1: Hello, Texans, Welcome to the program, and we got a

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Speaker 1: big one for you tonight in just a few moments.

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Speaker 1: Frank Ross, special teams coordinator for your Texans. We had

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Speaker 1: him on a few weeks ago, but we're having him

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Speaker 1: on again because why not. He's awesome and he's got

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Speaker 1: a big event coming up too that you want to

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Speaker 1: hear about.

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Speaker 2: Also.

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Alexander from the Houston Chronicle wrote about the brock

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Speaker 1: Purty extension earlier this week. What that might mean for CJ.

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Speaker 1: Stroud heading into the twenty twenty six season. Can we

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Speaker 1: not get ahead of ourselves, please? We got twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: five coming up and we got to worry about that

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Speaker 1: one day at a time. But a lot of stuff

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Speaker 1: about the AFC South, Jonathan's thoughts on the schedule, the

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Speaker 1: flag football Olympic participation, Johnny and I will get into

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Speaker 1: that a little bit later, but let's get into this.

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Speaker 2: We mentioned Frank Ross.

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Speaker 1: He's got an event coming up called Coaches Cuts, and

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Speaker 1: you find out about this. It's gonna be June sixth

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Speaker 1: at Covenant House. Coach Rosscuts dot com for more information

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Speaker 1: and to donate as well, because when you hear about

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Speaker 1: what coach Ross is doing and the effect he has

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Speaker 1: on others' lives. You might want to be a part

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Speaker 1: of this. Coach rosscuts dot com. So let's get into it.

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Speaker 1: Our visit in studio with Special Teams Coordinator Frank Ross

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Speaker 1: in studio with us, and he's here for his weekly show.

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Speaker 1: It's not really a weekly show, but Frank Ross, Special

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Speaker 1: Teams Coordinator, we wish it was a weekly show because

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Speaker 1: we love visiting with you.

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Speaker 2: He's going, Frank, Oh great, let's do that. Can we

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Speaker 2: do that? Let's do the show.

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Speaker 3: We're signing the tam right here until Special Team starts

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Speaker 3: to fall a little bit.

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Speaker 2: That way.

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Speaker 3: We we love you at studio, but we love you

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Speaker 3: doing that more than anything else.

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Speaker 2: Fair.

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Speaker 1: It won't be all back. He can handle it. I

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Speaker 1: mean we could, and we know you could. We just

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Speaker 1: don't put too much on your plate. Oh good, whatever

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Speaker 1: you guys need. I mean, listen, Coach one time through

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Speaker 1: Kenny Lofton at me. I was walking by and he's

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Speaker 1: like yonas return, He's like, I want you to be

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Speaker 1: like Kenny Lofton, John Harris, you hear that. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: he's dropped Kenny Lafton on everybody.

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Speaker 4: And then I did a Ricky Henderson who did kind

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Speaker 4: of some preluting. Here have Ricky Henderson T shirt to

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Speaker 4: give out to one of my special teamers at some

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Speaker 2: Then I have to explain who Ricky Henderson was going

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Speaker 2: to say, explain Ricky.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's us, though, Rank We were ready on the

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Speaker 1: except to explain who Sinatra is to your players sometimes, right, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we'll get it to that. We'll get it to that.

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Speaker 1: In fact, let's let's go there right now. Coaches Cuts,

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Speaker 1: Covenant House, right June sixth, Yes, tell us about the event,

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Speaker 1: and this is something you've done before, but you keep

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Speaker 1: expanding it, coach, and tell us what it's about.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for allowing me to come in and talk

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Speaker 2: But honestly, this is really cool.

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Speaker 4: June sixth, we will be hosting the fourth annual Coaches

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Speaker 4: Cuts event at the Covenant House brand and they have

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Speaker 4: a literal brand new. They just did their ribbon cutting

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Speaker 4: me exactly, but up to two two hundred and fifty individuals.

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Speaker 2: Their experience and homelessness. Wow.

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Speaker 4: And the key with Covenant Houses they're eighteen to twenty

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Speaker 3: Coach, go back with us, if you don't mind to

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Speaker 3: when you actually started cutting hair, what what that was

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Speaker 2: But where does it where does it go to? Where

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Speaker 4: So Car, it comes and starts from a place of

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Speaker 2: So I'm a freshman.

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Speaker 4: I'm a freshman in college and I had cut hair

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Speaker 2: I said, nope. I went over to the Walmart.

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Speaker 4: I grabbed a set of clippers, and I taught myself

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Speaker 4: There was your nil money, mynil money. It was two

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Speaker 3: Okay, so I got a hairstory Biggeres way way back.

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Speaker 5: Hare?

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Speaker 4: Gotta do some trust earning along the way. When you

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Speaker 4: get to a status. When the head coach, my my

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Speaker 4: college head coach reg escaped Italian a front, I need

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Speaker 4: you to need to cut my hair.

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Speaker 2: I cut his.

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Speaker 4: Hair sitting in his in his office, in his office chair.

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Speaker 4: I cut his hair, and he had the kind of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because there's a difference between cutting hair the way

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Speaker 1: you wear it right now, which.

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Speaker 2: Is straight, standard, high and tight. Yeah, yeah, pretty, I'm

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Speaker 3: I mean, you get coach wrong, he's gonna take away

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Speaker 2: So we we we grew it along the way.

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Speaker 4: I got to a point where I was cutting coaches

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Speaker 4: I cut the whole staff on my whole team. I

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Speaker 4: I cut Scarry's hair the other day, I cut the

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Speaker 4: gen You know, it's it's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: I think that's just austworthy, that's just the number five

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Speaker 4: Right, there's some there's some things that I would recommend

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Speaker 4: go to somebody else, But I got the standards down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, wait, you're self taught though, self taught, self taught

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Speaker 4: You just go off the same amount, take off the

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Speaker 4: same amount, same amount, check it out, same amount, same amount,

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Speaker 2: Change.

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Speaker 3: That's how I do it. Oh my yeah, I couldn't

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Johnny in the chair.

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Speaker 3: I'll never the first time I found out you cut hair.

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Speaker 3: I'll never forget. It was your first year here and

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Speaker 2: But you said to me, hey, did you get haircut?

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Speaker 2: I was like, it wasn't like hey.

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Speaker 3: hey what do you think about? Put team is like, hey,

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Speaker 3: you get haircut? I was like I did as a

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Speaker 3: matter of fact. And so that's when, you know, coach,

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Speaker 3: and I've always wanted you to be able to.

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Speaker 2: Do it because I don't want to pay seventeen bucks.

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Speaker 2: There you go, there, there you go.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 4: I I regularly and routinely I comment on people's hair,

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Speaker 2: Oh nice cut. Nice you know I noticed it too much,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So people at covet in the house are going

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Speaker 1: or is it just you cutting the hair?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll give you the rundown. So good at the event,

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Speaker 4: coaches cuts and it's great. We're becoming working through it,

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Speaker 4: but becoming an official, an official nonprofit. We've kind of

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Speaker 4: Empire Studios, which is Julian Diaz. And these barbers that

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Speaker 4: we're going to be able to provide We've done some

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Speaker 4: This whole thing stems to, man, can we make you

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Speaker 4: do some manicures from the Houston Community College. They're gonna

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Speaker 4: They're gonna come up and they're gonna do many facials

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Speaker 4: that probably don't get pampering very often. And of course

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Speaker 4: we provide some Italian food. We do a great job there.

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Speaker 4: a whole thing there, and man, we'll get the Sinatra

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Speaker 4: going and really lift up a really good atmosphere for

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Speaker 4: a nice evening.

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Speaker 2: Then the players will be there chopping it up. It's

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Speaker 2: it's an incredible situation.

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Speaker 1: Is it only Sinatra? Or will you expand the repertoire

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Speaker 1: a little bit?

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Speaker 2: So when I'm cutting in the locker room.

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Speaker 4: It's strictly Pandora Radio station, strictly Sinatra. Yeah, and then

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Speaker 4: when we play it that we'll mix it up a bit.

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Speaker 4: We'll get some good vibes too. I know you don't

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Speaker 4: do it for this. I know you do it because

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Speaker 4: well we know you. I mean, you're an unbelievable individual.

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Speaker 4: You do it for the betterment of those people that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, just little things to be precise. We've

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Speaker 2: You know, different elements to to to teach with Frank.

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Speaker 4: To the basics, for the back to the basics. So

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Speaker 4: The rookie a lot of progression plan teaching start to finish,

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Speaker 2: You know, what type of tackler are they? As a safety?

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Speaker 1: So we see offensive defense practice sit situational work all

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Speaker 2: We'd like to think we're prepared on its as much

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Speaker 4: It's a little street ball and everything, right, go play ball,

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Speaker 4: Just like the red zone offense, like they're gonna have

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Speaker 4: So you cannot prepare for everything. Truthfully, the special teams

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Speaker 2: So those are gone. One second bunt, you know, just

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Speaker 4: They've changed going into this year. Can I talk about

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Speaker 4: so going into this year, right, you cannot on side

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Speaker 4: We practiced that intentional safety from you know, really backed up.

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Speaker 2: So we kicked off with one second left. You remember

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, the thought is that they're going to

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Speaker 4: Team is down there one step earlier, so that bang bang,

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Speaker 4: maybe that jar that ball jar is loose a few

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Speaker 4: more times results in some more recoveries, and they're they're

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Speaker 4: still restricted by formation restrictions and alignment that you have

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Speaker 4: to be to.

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Speaker 2: Say, satisfy the rules five by five.

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Speaker 4: They don't want any looping overloads for safety reasons.

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Speaker 2: So you know, we'll see what it ends up being.

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Speaker 4: But I think I do think just by moving up

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Speaker 4: a yard, if that's what it ends up being officially,

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Speaker 4: that that'll end up scoring a few more recoveries.

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Speaker 2: We'll see.

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Speaker 3: There was some crazy stuff with onside kicks. When you

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Speaker 3: look back at the day guys who would loop over

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Speaker 3: you got ten guys on the side. I mean, just

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Speaker 3: all the things that you used to be able to

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Speaker 3: get away with. If the outside kick in college, you'd

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Speaker 3: have like a five yard run up before the guy

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Speaker 3: could kick it them like somebody was getting blasted with that.

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Speaker 2: But I always hated that onside kick for that.

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Speaker 4: You should hear they said, special teams coaches go figure

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Speaker 4: this out. NFL down, so special teams coaches get together.

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Speaker 4: You should hear some of the ideas that come out there.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, man, we're gonna start it five yards. We're

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Speaker 4: gonna start it five yards on the minus scrim has

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Speaker 4: been the kick will be behind Joe. You know in

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Speaker 4: the kickoff return zone. Every quarter you have to take

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Speaker 4: a player out of the return area and get less

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Speaker 4: and less like there.

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Speaker 2: There's been some wild ideas. Wow, it's still all about

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Speaker 2: the kick though. You need a really great high hopper

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Speaker 2: or whatever it is.

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Speaker 4: Pace matching, the timing when your coverage team is down there.

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Speaker 2: I don't care what type of kick it is.

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Speaker 4: Whether it's the spinning sideliner we called out a chop,

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Speaker 4: whether it's the you saw it a lot more, which

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Speaker 4: was the spike.

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Speaker 2: You used to see that all the time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because that allowed when you had a

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Speaker 4: running start, enough time for you to get down and

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Speaker 4: get a big impact hit on the and the balls

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Speaker 4: already hit the ground. Yep, exactly, and balls already hit

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Speaker 4: the ground. That's the thing in college, you tell them

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Speaker 4: day one, the college kids, the receivers that are on

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Speaker 4: there's no fair catching on kickoffs.

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Speaker 2: If it hits the ground, you.

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Speaker 1: Cannot fair catch the ball. So all right, coach, thanks

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Speaker 1: all for joining us. Best of luck with coaches.

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Speaker 2: Cuts.

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Speaker 4: Can I can I give you one one more thing,

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Speaker 4: Yeah do it. I want to say thank you to

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Speaker 4: Christina and my wife. She is powering this whole engine

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Speaker 4: on Coaches Cuts when when you know, I'm at work today,

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Speaker 4: she's out hitting the costcos and the Sam's Clubs and

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Speaker 4: buying all kinds of you know, basic essentials and socks

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Speaker 4: and underwear and T shirts for all these people that.

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Speaker 2: We're going to be serving. And so thanks Christina for

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Speaker 2: all your help. That is fantastic.

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Speaker 1: All right, great move to thank the wife, awesome cortant Yes,

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Speaker 1: go Texans. Thank you Christina, Thank you guys, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: We could spend hours talking with Frank Ross. An interesting guy,

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Speaker 1: so much to share on and off the field, great

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Speaker 1: topic stuff and that Coaches Cuts event coming up June

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Speaker 1: sixth the Covenant House. Coach Rosscuts dot com for more

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Speaker 1: information and to donate to be a part of this thing,

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Speaker 1: Coach Rosscuts dot com. Go there learn more about the

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Speaker 1: event and possibly donate. Check it out from Special Teams

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Speaker 1: coordinator Frank Ross. Coming up, Jonathan Alexander from the Houston Chronicle.

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Speaker 1: Let's dig into the topics of the day on the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Jonathan's thoughts on the schedule and much more coming up

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Speaker 1: on Texans Radio.

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Speaker 2: Back to it here on Texans Radio.

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Speaker 1: Mark vandermir and John Harris with you in the Hyundai

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Speaker 1: Texans Radio studio. But joining us on the line now

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Speaker 1: is Jonathan Alexander from the Houston Chronicle. And Jonathan, this

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Speaker 1: is an interesting week. You got owners meetings going on.

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Speaker 1: We have yet to get outside and see the vets

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Speaker 1: operate for the Houston Texans, and we have a lot

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Speaker 1: to look at. We have a lot to talk about,

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Speaker 1: but let's start here. Has anything that's happened in the

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Speaker 1: AFC South regarding the Texans, Jags, Colts, Titans, whether it

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Speaker 1: be draft, free agency, any relatively recent stories affected your

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Speaker 1: opinion of how this division is going to shape up.

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Speaker 1: I know that you're not going to move the Texans

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Speaker 1: off the top spot, but what about the other three teams?

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Speaker 1: What are you thinking now that we have some water

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Speaker 1: under the bridge here in the offseason and you kind

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Speaker 1: of get a little bit of a better feel as

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Speaker 1: to how things might play out or at least projection anyway, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I saw a story.

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Speaker 6: I mean, this didn't change my opinion, but I did

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Speaker 6: see a story where there was one I don't know

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Speaker 6: if it was the opinion of one person, but they

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Speaker 6: thought that the Jaguars might win the division. I don't

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Speaker 6: believe that, and that didn't change my opinion, but it

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Speaker 6: did force me to think, Okay, Jacksonville's probably as long

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Speaker 6: as Trevor Lawrence stays healthy, they're not going to be

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Speaker 6: a however many wins they had last year type of team,

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Speaker 6: they should be in the seven to eight nine range teams.

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Speaker 6: So I think there'll be a competitive team this year.

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Speaker 6: So that did change my opinion. I don't think they'll

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Speaker 6: be horrendous. I think as long as you have Trevor Lawrence,

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Speaker 6: should give yourself a chance to be pretty good. But

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Speaker 6: I still think the Texans are the kreml and cropping

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Speaker 6: the AFC Soulton and it's going to go through Houston

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Speaker 6: this year. Those teams, like the Colts are going to

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Speaker 6: have to go through Houston if they want to win

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Speaker 6: the division.

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Speaker 2: PFF did an article Jonathan.

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Speaker 3: It was essentially division winners that are most at risk

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Speaker 3: of not winning the division again, and as they teased it,

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Speaker 3: they were like Lions, question mark, Eagles, question mark, Chiefs

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Speaker 3: question mark, which division winner from last year do you think?

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Speaker 3: And in the AFC it was Ravens, Chiefs, Bills, Texans.

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Speaker 3: In the NFC, it was Eagles, Lions, Bucks.

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Speaker 2: And Rams.

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Speaker 3: Of those eight, which one do you think is the

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Speaker 3: most at risk of not winning the division in twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty five?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's easily the Lions.

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Speaker 6: I just think that division itself is loaded with talent,

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Speaker 6: whether you're talking about the Vikings, whether you're talking about

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Speaker 6: the Packers or even the Bears, who got new coaching

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Speaker 6: Ben Johnson, who I think you know, has added a

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Speaker 6: lot of talent to that team and perhaps some help

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Speaker 6: to Caleb Williams. I just think that is going to

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Speaker 6: be a highly competitive division this year, as long as

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Speaker 6: the key players for each of those teams stay healthy.

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Speaker 5: Now you wonder about JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 6: This is technically his first year after he missed all

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Speaker 6: of last season with the injury. But if a team

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Speaker 6: can help Sam Donald look as good as he did, that,

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Speaker 6: I'm sure they can allow, you know, help this rookie

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Speaker 6: JJ McCarty come along. I think the Lions are going

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Speaker 6: to have the toughest time, especially given the fact that

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Speaker 6: they lost two of their top coaches. It always takes

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Speaker 6: teams some adjusting when they lose to their offensive and

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Speaker 6: defensive coordinator in the same year, like we saw with

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Speaker 6: the Eagles a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 1: I see your NFC North and raise you the NFC

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Speaker 1: West because I think it's the Rams that are in

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Speaker 1: the most danger of not winning their division because Seattle

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Speaker 1: is a good team, and I know they have Donald

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Speaker 1: Down's Aposta Gino Smith, and that might be a deficit

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Speaker 1: for them. I know Donald played great last year, but

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Speaker 1: you know he doesn't have Kevin O'Connell's great taken the

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Speaker 1: best coach of the league.

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Speaker 2: Who did that list?

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Speaker 1: Greg Roose on JP Acosta the NFL Podcast, And the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals could be better the Niners.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they get healthy and better.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, Jonathan, in between last time we visited and

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Speaker 1: this time the schedule was released, So your general takeaway,

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Speaker 1: what was your gut reaction, as Johnny would say, to

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Speaker 1: the release of the Texans schedule, what do you think?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, looking at the schedule, you know, I don't think

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Speaker 6: it's not as difficult of a schedule as you know,

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Speaker 6: I initially thought it would be kind of coming in.

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Speaker 5: You look at their opponents and even their tough games.

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Speaker 6: Yes, so they have tough games to schedule Ravens, Bills, Chiefs,

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Speaker 6: Rams to start a season, but those games are spread out,

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Speaker 6: Like you know, last year you felt like a lot

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Speaker 6: of those games were clumped together.

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Speaker 5: They had a lot of.

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Speaker 6: Their primetime games like back to back, and then of

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Speaker 6: course the big guntlet with the Chiefs and the Ravens

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Speaker 6: and the Dolphins. This year, aside from the Bills game

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Speaker 6: and the Colts and the Ravens being back to back

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Speaker 6: to back, most of the games are pretty are pretty

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Speaker 6: spread out. And when I did my schedule prediction, you know,

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Speaker 6: I can see the Texans struggling kind of early on,

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Speaker 6: but really going on a stretch later down the season

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Speaker 6: and playing some of their best football late in the year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be fun if they're playing.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if they get to a point where those

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Speaker 3: last four games are in play for seeding or division whatever,

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Speaker 3: and you get three out of four of them at home,

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Speaker 3: that's pretty nice. I don't know why I keep basketball PFF,

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Speaker 3: but I've saw a couple of things that really kind

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Speaker 3: of triggered my my thoughts, and this one actually kind

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Speaker 3: of triggered more anger in a sense, because PFF did

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Speaker 3: their best players, their top ten players under twenty five

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Speaker 3: the age of twenty five, okay, and I had to

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Speaker 3: look it up to make sure that I didn't miss something.

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Speaker 3: But Derek Stingley Junior is only twenty three, right, whoa,

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Speaker 3: he's twenty three?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's not twenty five.

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Speaker 3: He's not listed in the top ten players under twenty five?

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Speaker 3: Is he on the list anywhere? In fact, yes, he

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Speaker 3: is on the list. In fact, though he is not

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Speaker 3: even the best corner listed. They have Trent McDuffie listed

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Speaker 3: at number five as the best corner. If you pulled

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Speaker 3: one hundred coaches and said, take McDuffie or Stingley, which

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Speaker 3: one do you think they're taking? Now you know me,

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Speaker 3: I love McDuffie. I'm a huge McDuffie guy. But they're

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Speaker 3: in eighty I mean eighty nine to ninety percent of

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Speaker 3: the coaches are taking Stingley over McDuffie. So anyways, point

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Speaker 3: being well, Anderson Junior is at number seven. He is

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Speaker 3: the second edge rusher behind Jared Verse. So I ask

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Speaker 3: you this, Jonathan, what is Derek Stingley's twenty twenty five

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Speaker 3: look like?

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Speaker 2: And I asked that because there are a lot of expectations.

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Speaker 2: He did somen to be contract.

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Speaker 3: Is it gonna get to a point where teams are like, no,

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Speaker 3: we can't, We're not thrown at this guy this. Do

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Speaker 3: you think he's kind of reached that that kind of

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Speaker 3: Stingley Islands status where you're just not throwing at sting

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Speaker 3: You think that teams are gonna still challenge him. What

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Speaker 3: do you think kind of the ceiling is for Derek

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Speaker 3: Stingley Junior in twenty twenty five? Again, as you mentioned,

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Speaker 3: as long as he stays healthy.

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Speaker 6: Wait before I answered that, you said, well Anderson Janey

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Speaker 6: was behind Jared Versus.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jared Verse six will answer junior number seven.

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Speaker 5: We might should throw that that list in the trash. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: you know, I don't. I don't agree.

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Speaker 6: I don't agree with any of those. I think Jared

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Speaker 6: Versus a great player, but I don't think he's better

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Speaker 6: than Will Anderson. But all right, so to your question,

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Speaker 6: I think Stingley could be in for another huge year.

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Speaker 5: He got paid, he has the pressure of that office back.

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Speaker 6: You know, we have been seeing the potential of Derek

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Speaker 6: Stingley coming out all the way back to his second

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Speaker 6: season when he had those five picks in those twelve games,

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Speaker 6: and you just knew it was a matter of time.

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Speaker 6: If he stayed healthy, he was going to put it

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Speaker 6: all together. And he finally stayed healthy his third year,

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Speaker 6: and I think if he continues to stay healthy, I

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Speaker 6: think he's found the formula. And I do think teams

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Speaker 6: will avoid throwing his way, just like teams avoided throwing

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Speaker 6: Patrick Surtain's way, and that'll be a benefit because the

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Speaker 6: Texans have another corner on the opposite side who is

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Speaker 6: very talented, and they won't know what to do. But

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Speaker 6: I think Derek Seeing is one of the best individual

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Speaker 6: players I've seen in a long time, and he is

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Speaker 6: going to be as long as he stays healthy.

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Speaker 5: That's his big thing.

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Speaker 6: You know, he was born to play football, and I

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Speaker 6: think he's showing it out there.

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Alexander of the Houston Chronicle joining us. You wrote

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Speaker 1: a story about brock Perty's contract extension and what it

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Speaker 1: could mean for CJ.

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Speaker 2: Stroud.

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Speaker 1: Jonathan, So tell me, I feel like, am I right

684
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Speaker 1: or wrong about this? This is going to be a

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Speaker 1: number we've never seen before. Probably if Stroud has I

686
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Speaker 1: don't even think he has to match the rookie season productivity.

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Speaker 1: Somewhere between season two and season one if he puts

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Speaker 1: that up in season three of the team has another

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Speaker 1: ten to eleven wins season and has some playoff success

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Speaker 1: some playoff success, we're looking at a number that we

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Speaker 1: might have never seen before.

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Speaker 2: Yes or no.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I think regardless of how he plays, he's going to

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Speaker 6: get huge contract and be top five highest paid player

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Speaker 6: in terms of average per year. But I think if

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Speaker 6: he has a good season better than me at year two,

698
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Speaker 6: then he'll most likely either get close to Dak prescott

699
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Speaker 6: sixty million per year number or be right under it.

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Speaker 6: I definitely think he'll pass Trevor Lawrence at fifty five million.

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Speaker 6: I think the Texans plus that'll be two years removed

702
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Speaker 6: from when he got that contract, and he his agent

703
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 6: drives a hard bargain. He helped David Mullagetta, helped Derek stinglely

704
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Speaker 6: become one of the highest paid players, helped Deshaun Watson

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Speaker 6: get the first fully guaranteed contract.

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Speaker 5: So I have no doubt that c J.

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Speaker 6: Stroud, regardless of whether he has a fantastic year, will

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Speaker 6: be one of the highest paid quarterbacks in the league.

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Speaker 6: But if he has a fantastic year, he's going to

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Speaker 6: probably be inching close to that sixty million per year

711
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Speaker 6: number and probably get close. Probably, I think he'll still

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Speaker 6: be behind Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes in terms of

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Speaker 6: the total value of those contexts.

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Speaker 5: Remember Patrick Mahomes has that.

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Speaker 6: I think he had that ten year deal, so that

716
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Speaker 6: his number at forty four hundred and fifty million is astronomical.

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Speaker 5: Josh Allen signed that six year deal.

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Speaker 6: What we've seen recently for quarterbacks coming off that rookie

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Speaker 6: deal as they signed five year deals, which is what

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Speaker 6: I would suspect CJ would sign, so meaning he would

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Speaker 6: be under Allen and Patrick Mahomes in terms of total value,

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Speaker 6: but that average per year will probably be number two

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Speaker 6: behind that Prescott if he has a good year.

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Speaker 3: Jonathan, we had a good time yesterday talking about JP

725
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Speaker 3: Acosta and Grey Rosenthal's ranking of the NFL head coaches

726
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Speaker 3: on the NFL Daily podcast. So I'm going to give

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Speaker 3: you a couple of questions in relation to that number. One,

728
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Speaker 3: where do you think Demiko right now? They didn't rank

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Speaker 3: the new coaches, They just had the twenty seven guys

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Speaker 3: that have at least coached in the NFL before. Where

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Speaker 3: do you think Demiko Ryans falls in that? Who do

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Speaker 3: you think is the most underrated head coach in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Who do you think is the most overrated head coach

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Speaker 3: in the NFL?

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Speaker 5: Oh? Underrated?

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Speaker 6: I think probably the most overrated coach is probably Kyle Shanahan.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, who's the most underrated?

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Speaker 5: Most underrated? You can't say. I think Sean mvay is

739
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Speaker 5: a great coach, but you can't say he's underrated.

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Speaker 6: People really do love him.

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Speaker 2: That's a tough one.

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Speaker 5: Probably it might be Sean McDermott.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good answer, good, good answer. We agree. Actually, yeah,

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Speaker 2: And where do you.

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Speaker 3: Think Demiko Ryan Where would Demiko Ryans fall for you?

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Speaker 3: Just going into year three kind of where he would

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Speaker 3: fall amongst the ranking of the head coaches.

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Speaker 6: I think he's top five, you know, for his for

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Speaker 6: his first two years. He might be five for his

750
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Speaker 6: first two years, to be ten win seasons after what

751
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Speaker 6: the Texans had went through.

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Speaker 5: He's shown that he's a great coach.

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Speaker 6: Now it's time for him to get past that level

754
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Speaker 6: of the divisional round. He knows that he's been. He's

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Speaker 6: been on the record of saying that's that's his goal.

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Speaker 6: And I think he can really catapult himself if he

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Speaker 6: does that this year.

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Speaker 1: All right, Jonathan, NFL players in Olympic flag football?

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Speaker 2: Are you okay with this? What are your thoughts on it?

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Speaker 1: I have a lot of thoughts on it, but you

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Speaker 1: tell me what you're thinking with NFL players being eligible

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Speaker 1: for Olympic flag football.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it'll be cool. From a fan perspective,

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Speaker 6: I think NFL teams will have a tough time allowing

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Speaker 6: their players, especially their skill position players, to go out there,

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Speaker 6: because you can you run the risk of a variety

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Speaker 6: of injuries from handstring injuries to soft tissue injuries. And

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Speaker 6: once that first star gets an injury in the Olympics,

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Speaker 6: then you're gonna have teams probably putting in their contracts

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Speaker 6: that those players can't play in these games. I think

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Speaker 6: eventually you'll see that these players don't want to play

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Speaker 6: in these games after probably the first couple of times.

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Speaker 6: But I think it'll be interesting for fans, interesting to

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Speaker 6: see these guys go out and play each other in

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Speaker 6: flag football.

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Speaker 5: I'll look forward to the first.

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Speaker 2: Time, Jonathan.

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Speaker 3: If you were commissioner of the league and you had

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Speaker 3: to vote, you had the sole remaining vote, it's a

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Speaker 3: tie on the tush push.

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Speaker 2: Which way would you lean, get rid of it, keep it.

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Speaker 5: I think I might would keep it.

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Speaker 6: You know, obviously it's almost an automatic first down, but

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Speaker 6: I don't think it's so much of a disadvantage.

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Speaker 5: I think teams do.

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Speaker 6: I think that the Eagles have found a way to

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Speaker 6: perfect it, and now it's on teams to figure out

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Speaker 6: how to stop.

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Speaker 5: But I don't think it's impossible to stop.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think it's cool to make the team

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Speaker 1: that just won the Super Bowl. Yeah, you know, penalize thing.

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Speaker 1: They've learned how to master that thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I.

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Speaker 1: Never liked the idea of that. So we'll just leave

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Speaker 1: that there. Jonathan, what do you have going on in

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Speaker 1: the Houston Chronicle.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, hopefully this Sunday, you know, working on a story

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Speaker 6: on Texans second round pick arianta Ursery and hopefully that'll

799
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Speaker 6: be out Sunday.

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Speaker 5: So watching the Houston Chronicle for that to come out outstanding.

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Speaker 2: Jonathan, thanks a lot for being with us.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: There's Jonathan Alexander from the Houston Chronicle. Always fun to

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Speaker 1: have him on and coming up. Speaking of fun, Johnny

805
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Speaker 1: and I clean up some things that we left on

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Speaker 1: the table yesterday. Also, I've got a reaction to that

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Speaker 1: flag football stuff with the NFL players participating. We'll have

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Speaker 1: that and more coming up. Texans All Access. All right,

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Speaker 1: getting into our final segment here on Texans Radio, Mark

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Speaker 1: Vandermre and John Harris with you, and some things we

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Speaker 1: left on the table yesterday that we did not get

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Speaker 1: to when we were doing an extended Who's better questions

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Speaker 1: for Johnny type of segment.

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Speaker 2: Johnny, are you ready? Are you ready for some of these?

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Speaker 1: Let's go, and after this, I'll react to the flag

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Speaker 1: football situation, all right. More impressive. Now, we talked about

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Speaker 1: the Ravens, a Texans opponent. We're going to play them

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Speaker 1: in Baltimore. Never have beaten them with Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 2: Laura blah blah blah a lot about that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they have Derrick Henry, as you know, and coming

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Speaker 1: off a monster year. Monster year in fact, nineteen hundred

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Speaker 1: twenty one yards was his second best ever in his

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Speaker 1: career thirty years old. My goodness, but more impressive, more impressive, Johnny,

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson going forty one touchdowns and four picks. Unbelievable,

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Speaker 1: rushing for nine hundred and fifteen yards, by the way,

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson nine hundred and fifteen yards or Derrick Henry

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Speaker 1: going for nineteen twenty one and five point nine per carry,

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Speaker 1: which is the most in his career at thirty years old, basically,

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Speaker 1: which is more impressive because they're both very impressive.

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Speaker 2: But what are you more impressed with? I'm gonna say, gosh,

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Speaker 2: that's hard. That's a good one.

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Speaker 3: The Ravens put out a video showing Henry working out

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Speaker 3: on this hill.

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Speaker 1: Oh jeez, not one of these. That just depresses me.

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Speaker 1: When I see Derek workouts.

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Speaker 3: He's it's not just like he's running up the hill.

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Speaker 3: Probably they're having him carrying. He's got like a chain

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Speaker 3: behind him with a weight. I think, get thirty years old,

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Speaker 3: him going nineteen hundred is incredible. That is amazing. I

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Speaker 3: think that's that's it. I mean, look, Lamar throwing for

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Speaker 3: forty one touchdowns. If you just said when Lamar was

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Speaker 3: going into the NFL in twenty eighteen, and we sat

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Speaker 3: here that night and Drey's texting him from the green

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Speaker 3: room and we're chatting about Lamar, I don't know that

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Speaker 3: we ever envisioned him going for forty one touchdowns. I

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Speaker 3: think he has improved so tremendously, But thirty years old,

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Speaker 3: nineteen hundred rushing yards.

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Speaker 1: Yep, when a lot of people kind of left him,

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Speaker 1: not for dead, but they just thought, Wow, we're on

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Speaker 1: the tail end of this thing. How bad did he

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00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,479
Speaker 1: wanted to go to the Cowboys? Oh gosh, he lives

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Speaker 1: in Dallas in the off season, he wanted to go

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Speaker 1: to the Cowboys. As much as I would hate that

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Speaker 1: kind of success for a team in that market, put

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Speaker 1: him up there. Put them up there, because I don't

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Speaker 1: want him in Baltimore, where he makes them so unbelievably

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Speaker 1: great on offense. Now, all of that, they still to

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Speaker 1: make it to the AFC Championship, which is incredible that

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Speaker 1: they did better the year before they had the top seed.

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Speaker 2: They made it to the championship. They went out the

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Speaker 2: same round we did. Yeah, it's incredible to say it

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Speaker 2: that way, but they did.

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Speaker 1: I mean, in a few weeks earlier, beat the doors

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Speaker 1: off the texts at Christmas Day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a team that has not performed exceedingly well

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Speaker 3: in the playoffs, which is weird. But I just think

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Speaker 3: there's gonna come a time where it all kind of clicks.

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Speaker 3: Say Flowers doesn't have a meltdown during a game at home,

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Speaker 3: in the AFC Championship.

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Speaker 2: You know it's gonna click for them. They're gonna they're

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Speaker 2: gonna win one.

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Speaker 3: I watched their behind the scenes draft video, and it's

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Speaker 3: an organization that is so clear on what it is

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Speaker 3: that they're looking for. The whole play like a raven thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Like they are so innately in tuned to what it

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Speaker 3: is that makes that organization tick.

877
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 2: It's an identity it is, is it?

878
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 3: And I think I think we're getting there with the

879
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 3: swarm mentality. I think we're getting there. We're establishing that

880
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 3: we've talked about that.

881
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 2: But he but the play like a raven thing.

882
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 3: I think it probably stems from that Ray Lewis time

883
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 3: frame and all that kind of stuff. But man, you

884
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 3: just look up and go, huh he dropped the Malachi

885
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 3: Starks Yeah, figures. And then you watch the video and

886
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 3: it was like those they so clearly wanted Starks, like

887
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 3: they knew that he was the raven kind like he

888
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 3: was a raven kind of guy, and it was just

889
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 3: interesting to watch. But I would say in that scenario,

890
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 3: I still say it's nineteen hundred yards as a thirty

891
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 3: year old, Yeah, Like it's incredible.

892
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, this video scared me. But Lamar Jackson.

893
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, Derek Henry workout videos are always frightening, But

894
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,760
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson throwing for over four thousand yards and rushing

895
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: for nine hundred and fifteen yards, it's definitely.

896
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 2: Say stuff, it's unbelievable.

897
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: Well, Henry's running for almost two thousand, Lamar's running for

898
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: almost a thousand. Yeah, that's crazy and throwing four over

899
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: four so like yeah, yeah, and forty one touchdown passes.

900
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 2: It's insane. That's insane production right there. Oh, another one

901
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 2: for you.

902
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: Tougher environment at the Chiefs at the Ravens, which is

903
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: a tougher environment to play in. I mean, arrowheads, all

904
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 1: that volume, you feel like you're in the lions Den.

905
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: You're on the field for both of these things and

906
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: multiple times, so you know, I mean, you were there

907
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: for a playoff game in Baltimore. I think you have

908
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: a better take on these things than I do because

909
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 1: you're feet away from the players and I'm up in

910
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: the broadcast booth along with Andre.

911
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 3: So you tell me what's a tougher environment. I think

912
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 3: that there's kind of this bloodlust in Baltimore. It just

913
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 3: feels like their fans kind of match the intensity with

914
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,240
Speaker 3: which they play when that game start, when the playoff

915
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,959
Speaker 3: game started going a little sideways, you know, when Lamar

916
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 3: scampered in on a quarterback draw and they end up

917
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 3: taking a seventeen to ten lead. That next drive, Man,

918
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 3: that that place was loud. They were trying to make

919
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 3: things tough on us. Then on the you know they

920
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 3: stop hutchetson on the screens, not Second and Long, And

921
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 3: I just remember Second and Long we didn't do much.

922
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 3: It's third and Long now and that place is absolutely

923
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 3: full throttle. It feels like they're right on top of

924
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 3: you at Baltimore. I feel like in Kansas City's kind

925
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 3: of that way too. It's like a really tight corner

926
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 3: of the end zone and they're both I mean, look

927
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 3: when they're both full throttle, it's boy. I just feel

928
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 3: like Baltimore has this and I know this grittiness and

929
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 3: a griminess to it a little bit more than Kansas City.

930
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 3: I feel like Kansas City, as crazy as this is

931
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 3: gonna sound, I feel like Kansas City's fans can be

932
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:48,919
Speaker 3: a little bit more fair weather.

933
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 2: Things aren't going well for them and they.

934
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 3: Kind of, you know, they're kind of they can be

935
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 3: that way a little bit. Things are going well, they're

936
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 3: front runners. I think with the Ravens, it doesn't matter

937
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 3: what the score is, matter what the time of the

938
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 3: game is. I feel like that fan base wants them

939
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 3: to cut you open and gut you right there in

940
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 3: the field and you know, you know, put your helmet up,

941
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 3: you know, you know to the crowd and they're like, oh,

942
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 3: it's like a gladiator type crowd.

943
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 2: So I think.

944
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 3: Baltimore is just a tougher place to play in large

945
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 3: part for that reason.

946
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 1: Okay, never have won there, so one they could do

947
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: a better job, and they need to have. The Texans

948
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: have beaten the Chiefs twenty nineteen. Patrick Mahomes got them

949
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: up there, possessed the football.

950
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,439
Speaker 2: We all saw the game together. That was the regular season.

951
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and what I remembered about that mark about that

952
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 3: game was how quiet that crowd really was in the

953
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 3: fourth quarter when they should have been on it. They

954
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 3: should have been making life miserable for us as a

955
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 3: line of scrimmage on offense, and they just were not.

956
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 3: They were not, And I think Baltimore would have been

957
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 3: that way.

958
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, Baltimore would be right on top of you. Okay,

959
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: A couple of minutes left flag football NFL players. Look,

960
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: I'm all for it as as promoting the game. And

961
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 1: you know NBC wants this too, Yes, you know they

962
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 1: want to show NFL players participating in flag football. I

963
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: just think, and you and I have talked about this,

964
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: it's a different sport. There are elements, of course. I mean,

965
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: the NFL athletes are supreme. I found it almost amusing

966
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: that the NFL said the International Pathway players can play

967
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: for their own country. But a lot of these International

968
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 1: Pathway guys are big dudes. You know, they're tackles, they're

969
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 1: defensive tackles, they're defensive linemen, they might be linebackers.

970
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 2: They're not playing flag football. Flag football is not like that.

971
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 2: This is a speed game. This is speed.

972
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,399
Speaker 1: This is corners and receivers playing, and that's almost it.

973
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 1: That's almost all you got. The quarterbacks have to be

974
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: able to move like crazy. You cannot have a pocket

975
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 1: passer in flag football. You got to have a guy

976
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,439
Speaker 1: who avoid that patam rush. He's got to be able

977
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: to move. So I just think it's going to be

978
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: interesting to see how you work them in. And I

979
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 1: know that, look, somebody's gonna get hurt. I hate to

980
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 1: say it. Somebody's gonna get hurt, and the first guy

981
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: gets hurt, it is going to be a monster story

982
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: and a lot of talk about why are we doing this?

983
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 1: Should we be doing this? And I just feel it's

984
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: gonna go that way. But I get it. This promotes

985
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: the game the best it could possibly be promoted, Dream

986
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: Team style.

987
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and look what happened after the Dream Team went

988
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 3: to Barcelona ninety two. The explosion of the game geographically. Yeah,

989
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 3: I don't know that that can happen with football. It's

990
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 3: a little different dynamic.

991
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 2: It can help flag football.

992
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 3: I think it could absolutely create a situation where flag

993
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 3: football becomes more prevalent in countries overseas. And then maybe

994
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 3: out of that you get two three players that go

995
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 3: through the Pathway program that end up being played because

996
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 3: they've been introduced to it.

997
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 2: Yep, more so than what they have been now. So

998
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,240
Speaker 2: maybe it has that impact.

999
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,760
Speaker 3: But I'm with you the guys that play look, flag football,

1000
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 3: tackle football. It might end in football. There are completely

1001
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 3: different games.

1002
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, And we'll talk more about this as the weeks

1003
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: go on and as the years go on, because the

1004
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: Olympics aren't for another what three years, twenty twenty eight.

1005
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 2: All right, that's going to do it for the show again.

1006
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:16,360
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1007
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1008
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: we want to thank you for being on the show

1009
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: tonight Tomorrow night. Chris Clark, former Texans offensive lineman. Among

1010
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: other things, owners meetings review, it's all happening tomorrow. Thanks

1011
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: for listening. Area forty five coming up, Go Texans.