WEBVTT - CZM Book Club: "Spring Woods Spring" by B. Pladek

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<v Speaker 1>Cool Zone Media.

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<v Speaker 2>Book Club book Club book Club. Welcome to CZMBC. The

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<v Speaker 2>only podcast that I introduced this way, also the only

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<v Speaker 2>time I'll ever introduce the podcast that way. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>host Margaret Kiljoyan. This is the Cool Zone Media book Club.

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<v Speaker 2>Every week I read you a story that I like.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it's pretty much it. That's the idea of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Stories I like that I think you might like too.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a big part of it. I have to think

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<v Speaker 2>that you'll like them. Also, well, it's pretty easy for

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<v Speaker 2>me to think that you'll like this week's story. This

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<v Speaker 2>is really good and I don't know, gets at stuff

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<v Speaker 2>about modern life and the future and how things are going,

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<v Speaker 2>but in a way that I think you'll appreciate. This

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<v Speaker 2>story is called spring Wood Spring and it's by b. Pladick.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's a biography of Ben. Who's B Platick. Ben Platdock

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<v Speaker 2>is a writer and literature professor based in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 2>His debut novel, dry Land, came out in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>three and was shortlisted for the Crawford Award. You can

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<v Speaker 2>find him sporadically on most socials at B Pladock, which

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<v Speaker 2>is bp LA, D E K This particular story was

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<v Speaker 2>first published by Strange Horizons in twenty twenty three. I

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<v Speaker 2>think we've done some other Strange Horizons stories before, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's a reason for that. Strange Horizons is a really

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<v Speaker 2>good magazine, has really good stories. Y'all should check it out.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not just saying that because they've published them of

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<v Speaker 2>my fiction, but they have published them of my fiction

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<v Speaker 2>as well as this story. Spring Woods Spring by B. Pladock.

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<v Speaker 2>Harry first noticed the trees in May when he went

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<v Speaker 2>out in the purple dusked to hear the woodcocks dance.

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<v Speaker 2>The sun had set an hour ago. Along the maple's

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<v Speaker 2>tangled arms flickered a slight luminescence, like the nave of

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<v Speaker 2>a candle lit church. By its glow, he could see

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<v Speaker 2>what he usually couldn't, the male woodcock bulleting upwards, wings

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<v Speaker 2>whistling to his parabola against the blue clouds. He watched

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<v Speaker 2>for another hour until he was confident the light came

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<v Speaker 2>from the trees themselves against Knight's dark lid. The canopy

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<v Speaker 2>shown so soft an untrained eye might not notice. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it was some new foxfire spreading north with the dying winters.

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<v Speaker 2>Or maybe an electrical disturbance, an ozone fit kicked off

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<v Speaker 2>by the burning tiger. He'd lived in the little cabin

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<v Speaker 2>beside the field station for two decades, watching it change.

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<v Speaker 2>Aging beside it, very little surprised him any more. At home,

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<v Speaker 2>he shucked his boots, then settled in with a book

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<v Speaker 2>on bioluminescence. He ignored the cardboard boxes heaped neatly in

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<v Speaker 2>the corner. The university had not officially asked him to leave,

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<v Speaker 2>but he was getting too frail to maintain the field

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<v Speaker 2>station by himself. Undergrads came to chop and dig every weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>as well as often his granddaughter Ava, who was too

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<v Speaker 2>polite to call him old, but whose regular visits it

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<v Speaker 2>was a five hour drive, spoke for themselves. Ava's father,

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<v Speaker 2>Harry's son in law, had brought him the boxes. Bill

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<v Speaker 2>had been sober for four years now. Last year he'd

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<v Speaker 2>invited Harry to live with him. Harry couldn't decide if

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<v Speaker 2>it was a genuine offer or a bid to get

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<v Speaker 2>Ava to speak to Bill again. He wondered if she

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<v Speaker 2>resented him for considering it. He wondered if he resented himself.

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<v Speaker 2>But he was old, he would have to leave some time,

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe he didn't have to forgive Bill to live

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<v Speaker 2>with him. He'd begin tomorrow. He was always beginning tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>Setting down the book, he switched off the light through

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<v Speaker 2>the window saw to starshine. The tree's orange glow touched

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<v Speaker 2>every corner of the room, the old photos and books,

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<v Speaker 2>four walls, the exact size of a life. The next morning,

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<v Speaker 2>when dawn still stood white and chilly in the Lowlands,

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<v Speaker 2>he visited his wife's and daughter's graves. They grew at

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<v Speaker 2>the bottom of the maple slope in a wind sheltered dell.

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<v Speaker 2>For Lisa, he'd planted an arch of raspberry canes. When

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<v Speaker 2>she'd learned the cancer was terminal, she'd demanded it, making

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<v Speaker 2>some black and unrepeatable joke about him eating her fruit.

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<v Speaker 2>She'd even helped him choose the spot, bare head wrapped,

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<v Speaker 2>shaking with pain and laughter. He'd never had the chance

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<v Speaker 2>to ask Junie what she preferred after the crash. She

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't woken up, and juniper would have been too on

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<v Speaker 2>the nose, and besides, it wouldn't grow in such wet woods.

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<v Speaker 2>So he chose nanny berry because it's dry fruit tasted

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<v Speaker 2>like bananas, which Junie had loved. He hoped he wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>being selfish, burying her here instead of an enormal cemetery

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<v Speaker 2>like Bill had wanted. He wished Lisa had been there

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<v Speaker 2>to advise him, though he was grateful she'd never had

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<v Speaker 2>to watch her daughter die. He touched the Raspberry's naked

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<v Speaker 2>whips every day he visited the dell. When his undergrads

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<v Speaker 2>had found out, they'd thought he was morbid. One eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>year old had even suggested therapy to process. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>mourn forever, she'd said, very young and benignant, it's not healthy.

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<v Speaker 2>A thump from up the slope startled him, the familiar

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<v Speaker 2>sound of Ava's civic door. Of course, she'd come to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about the lights. He heard the plash of her

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<v Speaker 2>boots as she crossed the brook, then the bright, dry

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<v Speaker 2>snap of a branch as she entered the hardwoods. Five

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<v Speaker 2>minutes later, she'd found him. Her face was clouded before

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<v Speaker 2>she spoke. As always, she brushed the furled buds of

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<v Speaker 2>Junie's nannyberry. Hi Mom, She turned to Harry, hugged him.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you seen the trees? She said? My pa is

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<v Speaker 2>freaking out. She says it's not fungal and not atmospheric,

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<v Speaker 2>it's worldwide, did you know? And the Amazon It's so

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<v Speaker 2>bright you can read a book by it. Even now,

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<v Speaker 2>the glow was faintly visible, an orange thrumb on the

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<v Speaker 2>bellies of the branches. He said, some things in nature

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<v Speaker 2>resist explanation. Don't give me that crap, She laughed. What's

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<v Speaker 2>your theory? You think I've got a better idea than

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<v Speaker 2>your pi? Is it because I'm old? She laughed again,

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<v Speaker 2>then socked him gently on the shoulder. Ava had moved

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<v Speaker 2>out two years ago when she'd started her PhD. He

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<v Speaker 2>had never asked about living with her. He knew she

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't afford it. Hey, I peeked in the window and

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<v Speaker 2>saw you haven't packed yet. I thought you were moving out,

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<v Speaker 2>Moving out, she said, carefully, rather than moving in with Bill.

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<v Speaker 2>Her circumspection shamed him. He wished she would just be angry.

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<v Speaker 2>He wasn't sure if he wanted it for her sake

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<v Speaker 2>or because it would license his own anger. I haven't decided,

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<v Speaker 2>She gave a small paint smile. Right, Can I bird

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<v Speaker 2>watch with you for a little? Of course? Above them,

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<v Speaker 2>a clutch of yellow rumped warblers was twitching along a

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<v Speaker 2>big hickory the trunk, shaggy bark seemed pearly smoothed by light.

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<v Speaker 2>The bird's black claws stood out as if unfrosted glass.

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<v Speaker 2>Ava swung her binoculars around on her shoulder. Harry raised

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<v Speaker 2>his too. For her last two years of high school

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<v Speaker 2>and all four of undergraduate, Ava had lived with Harry

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<v Speaker 2>at the field station, helping him with the monitoring he

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<v Speaker 2>conducted for the university. That least, the reserves three hundred

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<v Speaker 2>acres of maple, hickory woods, cattail marsh, and wet meadow.

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<v Speaker 2>She was fleeing Bill, whose drinking had gotten worse after

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<v Speaker 2>the accident, and who could barely offer his daughter the

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<v Speaker 2>solace of a hug for the loss of her own mother,

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<v Speaker 2>So deep was he sunk in his own self recrimination

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<v Speaker 2>all those years, as Bill's guilt had hardened into denial,

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<v Speaker 2>Ava had wandered the dappled shadows of the reserve, gathering

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<v Speaker 2>the woods around herself. Their green light had held her.

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<v Speaker 2>Harry's chest pinched. He watched her as she gazed up.

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<v Speaker 2>You can see it, she said. Her voice had a

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<v Speaker 2>quaver he hadn't heard in years. A light in the

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<v Speaker 2>woods like burning. It took two more weeks for the

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<v Speaker 2>world to pay attention. First a third pager in The

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<v Speaker 2>Times by their reporter on the quirky nature beat, then

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<v Speaker 2>a below the fold feature on the light's effect on

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<v Speaker 2>rural industries. Then finally a headline trees ruined sleep across nation.

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<v Speaker 2>This was an exaggeration. The light was too subtle to

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<v Speaker 2>keep anyone but birds awake. Still, he knew the story

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<v Speaker 2>had gotten big when Bill used it as an opening.

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<v Speaker 2>You see these tree lights crazy, but Ava has some

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<v Speaker 2>good theories. Even by text. He could smell Bills craving

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<v Speaker 2>for pardon, which had never quite extended to an apology.

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<v Speaker 2>So you think about my awe, it's a limited time.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe he was too hard on him, Harry thought sometimes.

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<v Speaker 2>After all, Bill had loved Junie too, Going once, going twice.

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<v Speaker 2>He put down the phone without replying. By day, the

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<v Speaker 2>trees glow was still muted, but at night the woods

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<v Speaker 2>shimmered in perpetual twilight. The naked branches shone like the

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<v Speaker 2>white pith of a flame. He was surprised there wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>more panic. Maybe it was because of the quality of

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<v Speaker 2>the light diffused through the new leaves. It length the

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<v Speaker 2>maple slope a hazy, underwater feel, or the cloth soft

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<v Speaker 2>atmosphere a fairy in an Edwardian novel. It did not

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<v Speaker 2>blaze like a burning bush, vengeful foreboding. It merely seemed sad.

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<v Speaker 2>The locals seemed to agree. One evening, Harry found a

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<v Speaker 2>group of them standing in a circle among the trees,

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<v Speaker 2>wearing sage crowns and holding tapers. Forgive us, they chanted,

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<v Speaker 2>forgive us. He didn't bother, asking for what. Every week

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<v Speaker 2>the trees grew brighter on the news, the ecologists, grumbling,

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<v Speaker 2>turned slowly to alarm. Gouts of confused bats poured from

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<v Speaker 2>caves at midday, flapping themselves to starvation. Leopards missed their pounces.

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<v Speaker 2>Some night flowering trees stayed tightly furled while their pollinators

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<v Speaker 2>buzzed past. The talking heads avoided calling it climate change

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<v Speaker 2>for fear people would stop paying attention, but they were

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<v Speaker 2>clearly worried. They were joined by the astronomers, whose dark

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<v Speaker 2>sky areas were being polluted. Harry wondered at their calling

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<v Speaker 2>at pollution when it seemed so natural, distinct from the

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<v Speaker 2>glare of a city's skyglow. It gave the trees so

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<v Speaker 2>little agency. Maybe they had just decided it was time

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<v Speaker 2>to burn. Only the agricultural and industrial sectors celebrated the

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<v Speaker 2>tree lights. More light meant longer hours. Harry hated agreen

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<v Speaker 2>with bit businessmen, but he liked the lights too. For

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<v Speaker 2>half the night, he wandered the dimly greening woods, tracing

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<v Speaker 2>their worn paths like a thumb, brushing a familiar cheek.

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<v Speaker 2>Up the cane, spiked with oaks, down the sandy kettle,

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<v Speaker 2>threading the damn the beavers had heaped in the marsh's mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>Here was the dell where Junie and Lisa had taken

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<v Speaker 2>Ava for picnics, which Ava had cleared of buckthorne the

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<v Speaker 2>weekend she'd first left home. You let it grow over,

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<v Speaker 2>she'd accused. She had not cried, only hacked at the

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<v Speaker 2>glossy shrubs for hours, over and over, destroying their foundations,

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<v Speaker 2>uprooting everything. And here was the yellow birch. Harry had

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<v Speaker 2>seated alone after he tried to imagine his life without

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<v Speaker 2>these things, waking to different birds, song alien leaves, Sprain refused.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe he was just unable to face change. Though he'd

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<v Speaker 2>known what his life would become without Ava when she left.

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<v Speaker 2>Though he guessed what might happen to him now if

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<v Speaker 2>the trees continued brightening. What might happen to him now

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<v Speaker 2>is that he might get a chance to support our sponsors.

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<v Speaker 2>What a sweet deal that totally has nothing to do

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<v Speaker 2>with the economic system that has caused climate change. That

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<v Speaker 2>if I mentioned you all would stop? Well, not you all?

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all are that you.

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<v Speaker 2>All pay attention to some of the climate change stories.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's ads and we're back. Bill's weak old text still

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<v Speaker 2>blinked on his phone. Harry knew Bill wanted Eva to

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<v Speaker 2>absolve him, and he hoped caring for Harry might convince her.

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<v Speaker 2>The thoughts stung. Juny might have wanted it too. She

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<v Speaker 2>forgave and forgave right up until her death. Did Harry

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<v Speaker 2>cling so close to her because he felt guilty for

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<v Speaker 2>keeping her from Bill? Or did he simply feel guilty

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<v Speaker 2>for clinging? Most people mourned their loved ones in graveyards,

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<v Speaker 2>dedicated ceremonial spaces they visited only sometimes. Surely, living atop

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<v Speaker 2>the dead among Lisa's raspberries and Junie's nannyberries was excessive,

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<v Speaker 2>not healthy. As his student had said, he brushed the

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<v Speaker 2>birch's boughs as he did every spring, smoothing back its

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<v Speaker 2>new leaves like a child's soft hair. In the tree lights,

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<v Speaker 2>they shone gold. By the time Ava returned three weeks later,

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<v Speaker 2>twilight had brightened to the pale glove of a winter's

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<v Speaker 2>cloudy afternoon. Her face was haggard. No one knows, she said.

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<v Speaker 2>We've run every test we can, checked our results against

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<v Speaker 2>teams in Brazil, Russia. Nothing. If we can't figure this out,

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<v Speaker 2>what good are we? He guessed she had come to

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<v Speaker 2>him for comfort. For Ava, that had always meant action,

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<v Speaker 2>proof that she had a handle on things. He loved

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<v Speaker 2>that she trusted him enough to give her this not solace,

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<v Speaker 2>but a whetstone. Do you want to help me chop

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<v Speaker 2>a dead mape, he asked, It's a test I've been

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<v Speaker 2>meaning to do. This was a lie. He could no

0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:09.160
<v Speaker 2>longer fell a tree by himself, much less bucket for testing,

0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:13.160
<v Speaker 2>and after that first book on bioluminescence, he had done

0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:16.800
<v Speaker 2>no more reading experimenting. Every time he tried, his mind

0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:21.640
<v Speaker 2>slid away towards the light. If Ava saw through him,

0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:24.840
<v Speaker 2>she didn't say. Together they tramped to a sugar maple

0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:28.680
<v Speaker 2>whose trunk had been recently split by lightning. It would

0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:34.800
<v Speaker 2>die soon. We've tried this, she protested, but weakly. Hafting axes,

0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:39.560
<v Speaker 2>they chopped. Harry hacked the undercut. Ava taller and more solid,

0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:43.360
<v Speaker 2>sawed through from the other side. Though he tried not to,

0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:46.840
<v Speaker 2>he had to keep stopping to pant. He saw Ava

0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:50.520
<v Speaker 2>WinCE watching him as they leaped back to let the

0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:55.720
<v Speaker 2>maple fall. She took Harry's shoulder watched the canopy. The

0:14:55.760 --> 0:14:58.920
<v Speaker 2>trunk creaked, snapped clean, and landed with a shudder, and

0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:02.120
<v Speaker 2>the leaf litter. At just the same moment, a pulse

0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:06.000
<v Speaker 2>of light fizzed through the woods. After Harry could swear

0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:10.240
<v Speaker 2>the trees burned brighter. Following Ava, he leaned over the stump.

0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:13.840
<v Speaker 2>She traced the rings with practiced fingers. The wood was

0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:18.360
<v Speaker 2>pale gold, all light quenched, snuffed, he said, and she

0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:22.640
<v Speaker 2>nodded like I said. We've tried it. Every time one's cut,

0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:26.040
<v Speaker 2>the rest get brighter. It makes no sense. And you've

0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:32.480
<v Speaker 2>ruled out pathogens, fungi, we've ruled out everything. She sat

0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:34.840
<v Speaker 2>back on her haunches and pressed her hand's heel to

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<v Speaker 2>her face. And it's not as if they've stopped logging.

0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:40.160
<v Speaker 2>I guess you don't see it much here, since this

0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:44.280
<v Speaker 2>is a reserve, but in manias it's getting unlivable. What

0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:46.640
<v Speaker 2>are your next steps? If you got her to talk

0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:49.720
<v Speaker 2>through it, you could help her find her strength. It

0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:54.160
<v Speaker 2>was how they'd survived those first awful years. My next steps.

0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:56.880
<v Speaker 2>She laughed a little, then looked at him. He knew then,

0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:00.560
<v Speaker 2>I live in the city. I'll be fine, but you

0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:05.000
<v Speaker 2>should leave. Ava. I came to tell you that you should,

0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:09.720
<v Speaker 2>that it's okay. She held his eyes, balancing her own

0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:13.800
<v Speaker 2>pain up and away like a karatid. When had she

0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:16.320
<v Speaker 2>become such an adult to carry the stone of her

0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:19.360
<v Speaker 2>hurt while freeing a hand to help someone else. Harry

0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:21.960
<v Speaker 2>had not taught her to do it, nor had Lisa,

0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:25.200
<v Speaker 2>whom she hadn't really known, and Juni had died too soon.

0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:29.160
<v Speaker 2>Maybe the woods themselves had this remnant of a once

0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:32.280
<v Speaker 2>great forest which grew straight and did not bend nor mourn.

0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:37.080
<v Speaker 2>Despite the press of so much humanity. He was drifting.

0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:40.520
<v Speaker 2>He shook his head, then looked at her. It's not

0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:45.560
<v Speaker 2>I wish we could offer. I'm so sorry, but even

0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:48.760
<v Speaker 2>with your Social Security check in Katy's salary, we could

0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:52.480
<v Speaker 2>still just afford a one bedroom. The perils of dating

0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:56.280
<v Speaker 2>a history PhD, he joked, because her face was wet marble.

0:16:57.080 --> 0:17:00.200
<v Speaker 2>She looked down. He touched her shoulder. You never have

0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:04.840
<v Speaker 2>to apologize to me, I know, but this tree thing

0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:07.600
<v Speaker 2>is going to be bad, so just promise me you'll

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<v Speaker 2>go all right. I don't have to see him, It's fine.

0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:13.959
<v Speaker 2>Have you ever considered that. I don't want to live

0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:19.600
<v Speaker 2>with Bill either. I can't lose you too. The knife

0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:23.399
<v Speaker 2>was swift and unexpected. His heart cramped on it. He

0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:27.080
<v Speaker 2>looked at Ava and knew she'd meant it that way. Yes,

0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:30.119
<v Speaker 2>she was an adult, now, unafraid to use the weapons

0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:34.919
<v Speaker 2>he'd given her against him for his protection. Okay, I

0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:40.960
<v Speaker 2>promise good. She slumped forward, elbow on the damp stump

0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:43.680
<v Speaker 2>on her back. The orange light pressed like a stone.

0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:47.720
<v Speaker 2>She slept over that night in the trundle bed Harry

0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:50.680
<v Speaker 2>kept for her. He pulled a blanket over the window

0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:54.040
<v Speaker 2>for the first time in weeks. The cabin eased into darkness.

0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:57.800
<v Speaker 2>He thought of the decades he'd lived at the field station,

0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:01.600
<v Speaker 2>the long shudder of Lisa's death, the brutal punch of

0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:05.840
<v Speaker 2>Junie's Like a torn mimosa. He'd curled up and withered

0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:11.120
<v Speaker 2>into himself. His heart became a closed fist. Outside life

0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:14.359
<v Speaker 2>went on. The cattails clicked in the marsh. The yarrow

0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:18.680
<v Speaker 2>lifted its balmy perfume through his silence. The robins whistled.

0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:23.040
<v Speaker 2>He had shut them all out like a cuckoo clock marionette.

0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:26.000
<v Speaker 2>He'd left his cabin on the hour, taken readings for

0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:31.760
<v Speaker 2>the university, then swiveled to march back inside. Until Eva

0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:35.280
<v Speaker 2>came sixteen and betrayed her heart so hard he was

0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:38.399
<v Speaker 2>afraid for her. Taking her hand, he had led her

0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:41.520
<v Speaker 2>beneath the softening sea green of the maples. He had

0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:45.159
<v Speaker 2>given her birds, eggs, coin, bright mushrooms, tubes of loamy

0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:50.360
<v Speaker 2>soil until her eyes softened. She opened, relearned how to trust.

0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:54.680
<v Speaker 2>He swore it would be her strength. But to believe

0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:57.560
<v Speaker 2>in her openness he had to face his own. So

0:18:57.600 --> 0:19:00.600
<v Speaker 2>he let the spring woods cut him. The green light

0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:03.720
<v Speaker 2>pierced him with arrows. Their green smell split him in two.

0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:08.280
<v Speaker 2>In his sealed heart, a crack widened. He walked in

0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:11.159
<v Speaker 2>and through. He entered his grief as if for the

0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:14.800
<v Speaker 2>first time, and it did not feel like death. I

0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:18.800
<v Speaker 2>could live here, he thought, kneeling between Lisa's Raspberry and

0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:22.639
<v Speaker 2>Junie's nanny Berry, their cool leaves touching his shoulders like

0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:27.920
<v Speaker 2>a laying on of hands. I could live here. Later

0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:31.560
<v Speaker 2>that day, Bill texted again, if Ava's the problem, just

0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:34.560
<v Speaker 2>explain it to her. I've changed, Harry. Don't you get

0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:37.639
<v Speaker 2>that I'm trying to help you. He did not reply.

0:19:40.280 --> 0:19:43.520
<v Speaker 2>As July passed, the corporate world's delight eroded to a

0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:49.159
<v Speaker 2>panic matching the ecologists. Forest industries stopped functioning to operate

0:19:49.200 --> 0:19:54.639
<v Speaker 2>their bunchers, loggers donned blackout sunglasses. Trucks keeled off service roads.

0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:58.840
<v Speaker 2>In British Columbia, Maine's pulp mill workers struck, and mass

0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:04.359
<v Speaker 2>light was blinding eye melting in the Amazon. Companies tried

0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:07.399
<v Speaker 2>sending automated loggers to clear cut space to dim the

0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:12.240
<v Speaker 2>margin enough for manned machinery. When that failed, they tried burning.

0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:17.159
<v Speaker 2>The trees just blazed brighter. The news did not know

0:20:17.200 --> 0:20:21.680
<v Speaker 2>how to talk about it. Active nature, active god, reaction, revolution.

0:20:22.520 --> 0:20:25.919
<v Speaker 2>No one said climate change anymore, because the light seemed

0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:29.720
<v Speaker 2>to be the tree's decision. Even if it wasn't, they

0:20:29.720 --> 0:20:34.000
<v Speaker 2>were clear cut anyway. In vaster and vaster retaliatory swaths,

0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:37.440
<v Speaker 2>no one mourned them, save the people who always had,

0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:41.560
<v Speaker 2>who had never been listened to anyway. At first, Harry

0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:45.840
<v Speaker 2>wondered at this, how could the world willingly slaughter millions

0:20:45.840 --> 0:20:48.919
<v Speaker 2>of living beings without remorse or a breath for grief?

0:20:49.920 --> 0:20:53.639
<v Speaker 2>Then he thought, oh, when at first seemed to be

0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:57.320
<v Speaker 2>a local effect quickly turned global. Even in reserves with

0:20:57.400 --> 0:21:00.720
<v Speaker 2>no logging, the trees grew steadily brighter, as if sympathizing

0:21:00.760 --> 0:21:03.960
<v Speaker 2>with their fellows in the dying rain forest. In the

0:21:04.000 --> 0:21:08.240
<v Speaker 2>small towns near the field station, farmers began shrouding orchards

0:21:08.240 --> 0:21:12.240
<v Speaker 2>in blackout or toppling their lines of wind breaks. Harry

0:21:12.320 --> 0:21:14.640
<v Speaker 2>knew because he still had to drive for groceries once

0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:18.720
<v Speaker 2>a week. He wore sunglasses now too, especially when facing west,

0:21:19.080 --> 0:21:21.720
<v Speaker 2>where an amber halo beat on the sky over the

0:21:21.720 --> 0:21:25.720
<v Speaker 2>state forest. In one place, an arm of smoke reached

0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:30.080
<v Speaker 2>ominously up to strangle the light. When he pulled up

0:21:30.080 --> 0:21:32.639
<v Speaker 2>before his cabin, he was not surprised to see a

0:21:32.640 --> 0:21:36.520
<v Speaker 2>bank of cars beached on the grass like fish. Atop

0:21:36.600 --> 0:21:40.040
<v Speaker 2>them sat his neighbors and hats and dark glasses, cannisters

0:21:40.040 --> 0:21:44.000
<v Speaker 2>of gasoline under their arms. His heart shivered like a flame.

0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:47.800
<v Speaker 2>We came to warn you, said one man, sliding off

0:21:47.800 --> 0:21:50.480
<v Speaker 2>the hood. These woods are getting too bright. We can't

0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:54.439
<v Speaker 2>live like this. You have to understand. It's a reserve,

0:21:54.520 --> 0:21:57.920
<v Speaker 2>said Harry, You saying trees are more important than human life.

0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:02.280
<v Speaker 2>They're not killing you, they're killing our livelihoods. That's the

0:22:02.320 --> 0:22:06.960
<v Speaker 2>same thing. Not these trees, Harry said slowly. He shouldered

0:22:06.960 --> 0:22:10.000
<v Speaker 2>his grocery bags and walked towards the cabin. Whatever you

0:22:10.080 --> 0:22:13.160
<v Speaker 2>do here, you'll do with me in it. Think about that,

0:22:13.760 --> 0:22:18.439
<v Speaker 2>you and your human life. Beneath his glasses, the man's

0:22:18.440 --> 0:22:21.919
<v Speaker 2>mouth scowled. Harry didn't realize how ready he was for

0:22:22.000 --> 0:22:24.560
<v Speaker 2>them to do it, to lie down and be swallowed

0:22:24.600 --> 0:22:28.160
<v Speaker 2>by the glow. Until still scowling, they packed their gas

0:22:28.200 --> 0:22:31.040
<v Speaker 2>canisters in their cars and left with an indignant rip

0:22:31.080 --> 0:22:34.880
<v Speaker 2>of turf. He was left alone before the cabin, every

0:22:34.920 --> 0:22:39.159
<v Speaker 2>cell in his body shaking with light. As he was

0:22:39.240 --> 0:22:42.960
<v Speaker 2>unloading the groceries, his phone beaped. Did you get my last? Text?

0:22:43.080 --> 0:22:45.800
<v Speaker 2>Said Bill? I'm not going to ask again. What did

0:22:45.800 --> 0:22:52.960
<v Speaker 2>av Us say, Harry? Are you getting these? Harry? That night?

0:22:53.880 --> 0:22:56.600
<v Speaker 2>What the clock said was night. Harry put on his

0:22:56.640 --> 0:23:00.000
<v Speaker 2>sunglasses and went out. He lay down between Lisa's red

0:23:00.040 --> 0:23:04.879
<v Speaker 2>Raspberry and Junie's nannyberry. Squinting, he looked up, Light pooled

0:23:04.920 --> 0:23:09.000
<v Speaker 2>in his eyes and mouth warm, surprising. He was seventy

0:23:09.000 --> 0:23:11.760
<v Speaker 2>four now, like a middle aged hickory or a very

0:23:11.760 --> 0:23:15.440
<v Speaker 2>old willow. No elder in these woods, but no upstart either.

0:23:16.320 --> 0:23:21.240
<v Speaker 2>Raspberries lasted a decade, nanny berry's four juny shrub would

0:23:21.240 --> 0:23:25.560
<v Speaker 2>outlive him, as JUNI should have. If he raised his arm,

0:23:25.800 --> 0:23:29.439
<v Speaker 2>the glow smoldered through his sleeve. It could almost have

0:23:29.480 --> 0:23:37.960
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0:24:00.400 --> 0:24:03.040
<v Speaker 2>his word, Bill did not text again, but at the

0:24:03.080 --> 0:24:06.160
<v Speaker 2>beginning of August, Ava called Harry assumed it was her

0:24:06.200 --> 0:24:08.680
<v Speaker 2>because she did it five times in a row, refusing

0:24:08.680 --> 0:24:12.560
<v Speaker 2>to be fooled, insisting he pick up. When he finally did,

0:24:12.600 --> 0:24:19.560
<v Speaker 2>she said, you're still there. Yes, for fock's sake, you promised,

0:24:20.080 --> 0:24:23.120
<v Speaker 2>but her anger sounded tired. Are you all right? Can

0:24:23.160 --> 0:24:27.040
<v Speaker 2>you still drive? Get food? I have enough, he said.

0:24:27.600 --> 0:24:30.480
<v Speaker 2>After the neighbor's visit, he had only made one grocery run.

0:24:30.840 --> 0:24:35.119
<v Speaker 2>He'd bought in bulk, brown rice, vitamins. Meat was easy.

0:24:35.200 --> 0:24:40.280
<v Speaker 2>The light confused the rabbits. What about you. I'm all right.

0:24:40.800 --> 0:24:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Katie bought tinch for the car windows so we can

0:24:42.960 --> 0:24:47.320
<v Speaker 2>still drive. But my eye's hurt all the time. Mine too.

0:24:48.359 --> 0:24:50.600
<v Speaker 2>We still don't know what it is. They convince people

0:24:50.640 --> 0:24:53.159
<v Speaker 2>to stop logging the Amazon at least, but it's not

0:24:53.200 --> 0:24:56.880
<v Speaker 2>getting any dimmer. The supply chains are all fucked. He

0:24:56.880 --> 0:25:01.119
<v Speaker 2>heard her swallow. It feels like an apocalypse. How do

0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:06.639
<v Speaker 2>we do this? You'll figure it out, you always have, sure,

0:25:06.960 --> 0:25:11.640
<v Speaker 2>she said. He wished he could hug her. Phone reassurances

0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:15.320
<v Speaker 2>sounded cheap. He cannot twist his imagination into the anxious

0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:18.520
<v Speaker 2>shape Avas must take every morning as a young woman

0:25:18.560 --> 0:25:21.280
<v Speaker 2>with years ahead of her, who had been promised a world,

0:25:21.760 --> 0:25:25.440
<v Speaker 2>a broken one, but a world His words had never

0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:29.720
<v Speaker 2>been equal to her losses. As for himself, he needed none.

0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:33.960
<v Speaker 2>All the world he wanted stood outside among the trees.

0:25:34.760 --> 0:25:37.760
<v Speaker 2>The thought should have bothered him, Then it bothered him

0:25:37.760 --> 0:25:40.600
<v Speaker 2>that it didn't. Then he gave up and simply let

0:25:40.640 --> 0:25:43.760
<v Speaker 2>it be what it was, a comfort, like warm light

0:25:43.840 --> 0:25:48.119
<v Speaker 2>through a window. He told Ava about the woods. The

0:25:48.160 --> 0:25:51.920
<v Speaker 2>heliotropic plants aren't fooled, but the mammals are. The deer

0:25:52.000 --> 0:25:54.120
<v Speaker 2>run into things, and the rabbits just stay in their

0:25:54.119 --> 0:25:57.720
<v Speaker 2>burrows until they're so hungry they can't What about the

0:25:57.720 --> 0:26:02.240
<v Speaker 2>birds we'll see during the micro They talked for another

0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:06.600
<v Speaker 2>ten minutes. Harry made parental inquiries. Did she have enough money?

0:26:06.760 --> 0:26:09.879
<v Speaker 2>Was Katie okay? Was Katie's family? Could she get her meds?

0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:15.000
<v Speaker 2>The cabin's atmosphere of golden syrup slowed his thoughts. Yes,

0:26:15.200 --> 0:26:18.199
<v Speaker 2>more or less, Yes, maybe not, because meds depend on

0:26:18.200 --> 0:26:23.679
<v Speaker 2>supply chains, and those, as she'd said, were fucked. I'm sorry,

0:26:23.680 --> 0:26:28.520
<v Speaker 2>he said, and she said it's fine. At the end

0:26:28.520 --> 0:26:32.880
<v Speaker 2>of the call, she lingered on her goodbyes. I've been thinking,

0:26:33.480 --> 0:26:36.280
<v Speaker 2>Katie says, the nuclear family is a modern construction anyway.

0:26:36.680 --> 0:26:39.640
<v Speaker 2>Generations used to live together all the time. So yeah,

0:26:39.640 --> 0:26:42.640
<v Speaker 2>money's tight, but like you said, we can figure it out.

0:26:43.720 --> 0:26:47.000
<v Speaker 2>His heart leapt. It was what he'd hoped for. Yet

0:26:47.040 --> 0:26:50.600
<v Speaker 2>outside his heavy curtains, the woods were shining. Averi's dawn

0:26:50.680 --> 0:26:54.800
<v Speaker 2>call spiraled down through the gold afternoon. He heard himself say,

0:26:55.720 --> 0:26:59.360
<v Speaker 2>that's okay, Aves, it's not We don't know how bad

0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:01.720
<v Speaker 2>things will get the power grids are going and you're

0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:06.160
<v Speaker 2>so isolated out there. I'm not that old. As vehemence

0:27:06.160 --> 0:27:09.720
<v Speaker 2>surprised him, as did his lie about his motives. Through

0:27:09.760 --> 0:27:12.320
<v Speaker 2>the curtains, the glow reached into the cup his cheek.

0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:15.399
<v Speaker 2>Did he owe her this, he wondered? Did she have

0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:19.040
<v Speaker 2>the right to save him? Outside, the leaves of Junie's

0:27:19.080 --> 0:27:23.080
<v Speaker 2>nannyberry gleamed like the warm red of palm, suffused with light.

0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:28.880
<v Speaker 2>When did grief become a home? Look if it gets bad,

0:27:29.160 --> 0:27:35.000
<v Speaker 2>We're coming for you. Okay, sure, he said, distracted a

0:27:35.000 --> 0:27:41.520
<v Speaker 2>beat of suspicious silence. Okay, Gramps, love you, love you.

0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:47.919
<v Speaker 2>As summer ended, light blazed from the reddening trees. It

0:27:48.000 --> 0:27:52.400
<v Speaker 2>sheered off in great metallic sheets, like hopkins, God shining

0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:56.560
<v Speaker 2>from the shook foil. Harry ate Less slept less. He

0:27:56.640 --> 0:28:00.920
<v Speaker 2>felt pierced and filled by radiance. Ava had been right

0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:04.800
<v Speaker 2>about the power. It grew sporadic, and the Internet even worse.

0:28:05.560 --> 0:28:08.480
<v Speaker 2>During the ever briefer gasps of service, he read the

0:28:08.520 --> 0:28:12.400
<v Speaker 2>news around the world. Cities had slaughtered their trees. Country

0:28:12.400 --> 0:28:17.280
<v Speaker 2>people had fled to plains and coasts and metropoles. Brasilia, Vancouver,

0:28:17.520 --> 0:28:22.600
<v Speaker 2>Toms were emptying, and still the woods blazed brighter. The

0:28:22.640 --> 0:28:25.480
<v Speaker 2>foresters must have found a way to keep felling the Amazon,

0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:27.960
<v Speaker 2>or else no one had stopped them from burning it.

0:28:29.119 --> 0:28:33.040
<v Speaker 2>For their part, his neighbors never returned with their gas canisters.

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<v Speaker 2>He wondered what had happened. He hadn't driven for groceries

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<v Speaker 2>in a month. Slowly he ate down his preserves, strapped

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<v Speaker 2>on his ski mask and glasses to forage for Chantrell's.

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<v Speaker 2>The woods of his heart were changing, opening as if

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<v Speaker 2>the light were a great door he could not quite

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<v Speaker 2>step through. Most days he spent outside, ending each by

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<v Speaker 2>lying down in the dell between Raspberry and Nannyberry, where

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<v Speaker 2>he had he could have mingled with their roots. He

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<v Speaker 2>watched the animals adjust. So far, the only die offs

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<v Speaker 2>had been the rabbits. But it was September and the

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<v Speaker 2>squirrels weren't hoarding. No swallows gathered on the cables, no

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<v Speaker 2>tins of geese raked the sky. Daylight never shortened. For them,

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<v Speaker 2>it must seem like an endless summer. Though frost now

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<v Speaker 2>stiffened the sedge on her calls. Ava's voice was tense.

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<v Speaker 2>Things are It's falling apart in a new way. I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't have imagined it, Hang on, We'll come for you

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<v Speaker 2>as soon as we can. Up the esker, the maples

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<v Speaker 2>were an inferno of yellow. On the highest crowns. Where

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<v Speaker 2>the real sun touched, the leaves glowed ruby. Lisa's raspberry

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<v Speaker 2>became a red lantern lit from within. Above it, the

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<v Speaker 2>slope burned like a bank of prayer candles, one leaf,

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<v Speaker 2>one flame for each palm in the Amazon, each jack,

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<v Speaker 2>and the tiga, a million souls grieved by no one

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<v Speaker 2>save themselves. For hours now he lay in the chilly

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<v Speaker 2>duff between Lisa and Juny, his kindling sack or mushroom

0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:17.680
<v Speaker 2>basket forgotten, even shielded. His eyes throbbed. The shrubs leaves

0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 2>were palms of flame, laying him down. He was theirs.

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<v Speaker 2>They held him. I'm sorry, he thought, tired, grateful, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Against his curtained windows. Beat the light, the light, the light.

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<v Speaker 2>In November, the power died completely. Only his solar battery

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<v Speaker 2>let him receive Ava's calls, half eaten by static. On

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<v Speaker 2>the very last before his phone died, he thought he

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<v Speaker 2>heard her say Soon. He put the phone down and

0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:54.200
<v Speaker 2>looked up beyond his four loved walls. The world was flame.

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<v Speaker 2>The naked trees observed their masts, hickories, oaks, sugar maples

0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:03.719
<v Speaker 2>lift in a thousand tapers. It might never end. He

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<v Speaker 2>looked across the room at his scant pantry, the piles

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<v Speaker 2>of wood he'd laid in for winter. He would wait

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<v Speaker 2>until he couldn't. No matter when ava came, she would

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<v Speaker 2>be on time, though with twenty four she might not

0:31:17.600 --> 0:31:21.360
<v Speaker 2>have understood that for a while. Some things resist explanation.

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<v Speaker 2>From the corner of the cabin, he drew a tallow candle.

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<v Speaker 2>Closing his eyes, he opened the door and walked out.

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<v Speaker 2>He followed the path past the marsh, down the slope

0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:35.480
<v Speaker 2>towards the Raspberry and nanny Berry. He could see the

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:38.520
<v Speaker 2>trees through his eyelids, through the fire in his chest,

0:31:39.520 --> 0:31:43.200
<v Speaker 2>time to burn. When he reached the dell, he cupped

0:31:43.240 --> 0:31:47.560
<v Speaker 2>the candle above him. The maple's nave flared a host

0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:52.120
<v Speaker 2>of tapers that would perhaps finally burned down long after

0:31:52.200 --> 0:31:55.800
<v Speaker 2>he himself had guttered into the soil. He would stand

0:31:55.880 --> 0:31:59.440
<v Speaker 2>vigil as long as he could, for love, for the woods,

0:31:59.680 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 2>for the world, for everything that dies too soon and

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<v Speaker 2>is not mourned. He touched the cool wick once to

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<v Speaker 2>his lips, then he opened his eyes and raised it

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<v Speaker 2>up to the light the end. I really like that story.

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<v Speaker 2>I think anyone who knows me at all will understand

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<v Speaker 2>why I like that story so much. I identify with

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<v Speaker 2>the person aging living in the woods. I love the

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<v Speaker 2>intermingling of personal grief and climate grief because these things

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<v Speaker 2>are not They can't be fully separated, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>we try to understand and move through our personal grief

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<v Speaker 2>these days in the context of climate grief, in the

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<v Speaker 2>context of like not really knowing that there's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a world in two generations and not knowing what

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<v Speaker 2>that means, you know, and then tying that into how

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Ava had been promised a certain life and

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<v Speaker 2>then isn't going to get it, and you know what

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<v Speaker 2>that means for the people who care about Ava. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I really like this story. I hope you

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<v Speaker 2>enjoyed it too. I asked Ben what he had to

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<v Speaker 2>say about it, and he said, this story is based

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<v Speaker 2>on a real field station near where I live. The

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<v Speaker 2>maples are very beautiful and fall. I also asked him

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<v Speaker 2>what to plug, and he said, people who liked this

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<v Speaker 2>story might like my debut novel, dry Land, which came

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<v Speaker 2>out in twenty twenty three with You of Wisconsin Press,

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<v Speaker 2>and is about a gay World War One forester who

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<v Speaker 2>learns why martyr complexes make for bad ecology. Folks might

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<v Speaker 2>also like my new short story at Strange Horizons, which

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<v Speaker 2>is my favorite of ever written, The Spindle of Necessity.

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<v Speaker 2>Trans guy meets a beloved author in a dream he

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<v Speaker 2>suspects was trans. Two things get weird, so I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm excited to read that story too. In case folks

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<v Speaker 2>aren't familiar with Strange Horizon, it's like a free online thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't got to pay for it. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like cool if you support their fundraising and stuff like that, right,

0:34:07.560 --> 0:34:10.200
<v Speaker 2>and they're they're a pretty sweet magazine. So you should

0:34:10.239 --> 0:34:12.080
<v Speaker 2>check out The Spindle of Necessity and you should check

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<v Speaker 2>out dry Land. I know that I'm looking forward to

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<v Speaker 2>checking out both. And that's it. I'll see you next

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<v Speaker 2>week on Cool Zone Media book Club, or I'll read

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<v Speaker 2>you a different story, because I'm not going to read

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<v Speaker 2>you this story again. I really like this story, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think that probably at some point the producers would

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<v Speaker 2>notice if I read you the same story over and

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<v Speaker 2>over again. Next week, new story. Talk to you all

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<v Speaker 2>soon Bye.

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