1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 4 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 2: And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly. He 5 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson. And it is a rainy Friday 6 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: here in Pittsburgh, which means traffic in Pittsburgh. Because it's rainy, 7 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 2: we in Pittsburgh. It could snow two feet and it 8 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 2: slows nothing down. Yep, a little bit of drizzle, a 9 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 2: little bit of drizzle, and everybody at panics. It's like, 10 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: it's I don't get it. What's wrong with you, Pittsburgh? 11 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 3: What's wrong? And use this forum to change things. 12 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 2: That's what we gotta do. This also changes because we're 13 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: not messing around today. We're going right to the phone 14 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 2: lines and we are bringing in Missy Matthew Steelers sideline reporter. Missy, 15 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: how are you? First of all? And secondly, what's up 16 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: with these Pittsburgh drivers? 17 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 4: And I mean I'm not a very patient driver, so yeah, no, 18 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 4: it's like right, no, trust me, I get it. I 19 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 4: usually have to remind myself, especially when my kids are 20 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 4: in the car, that I should just take a deep 21 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 4: breath because I can't make other people drive faster, but 22 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 4: it's very frustrating. But you know, it's getting more like 23 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 4: football weather. Not that it matters this weekend in Indie, 24 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 4: but I'm okay with it not being ninety and like sweating, 25 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 4: just like standing outside. 26 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 3: Missy, where are you with Indy as a road trip? 27 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 3: I bring this up because we go every year for 28 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 3: the Combine. I always have a blast. I'm urging all 29 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 3: of our listeners if they're on the fence about getting 30 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 3: in their car and driving five hours west and hanging 31 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 3: out in Indy and supporting the Steilers or not. I 32 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 3: think it's a great town for a quick visit. 33 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 4: I totally agree. I just love that you can you 34 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 4: can stay inside while getting to places, to restaurants, to bars, 35 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 4: to hotels, just the way that it was built. And 36 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 4: I obviously I know they've you know, posted large events, 37 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 4: so it shouldn't come as a surprise, But I just 38 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 4: think it's very It's a friendly town and it's convenient, 39 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 4: and I'm always a big fan every time we get 40 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 4: to go there. 41 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 2: It looks like, Missy that we're going to get to 42 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 2: see Mason McCormick get his first career start. So this 43 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 2: is going to be in the first four games of 44 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: the season, four different Steelers offensive linemen making their first 45 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 2: career start. 46 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 3: It's got to be four different five zomes too, huh. 47 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, And thus far we haven't seen it be too 48 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: big for these guys. What's it looked like from down low? 49 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously you're on the sideline. I'm up in 50 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: the air, you know, watching from three thousand feet and 51 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 2: Matt's on watching it on TV. What have these guys 52 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: been like in these games? Have you seen any kind 53 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 2: of wide aged rookie moments or have they kind of 54 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 2: taken this in right? 55 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 4: I really think they've taken it in stride. You know, 56 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 4: when you the O line, every position group sits in 57 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 4: the same spot on the bench every time they come 58 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 4: off the field, so you know, you go nevin around 59 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 4: see what people are doing or talking about, and they're 60 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 4: always just locked in it. Almost not that you forget 61 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 4: their rookies, but it's not like, oh, hey, Zach Frasier 62 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 4: was in, you know, like where it's like, oh, hey, 63 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 4: there's Mason McCormick. I think when it started happening in 64 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 4: that past game, the rotation and getting him some work 65 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 4: in an actual game. No one was really surprised by it. 66 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 4: You weren't thinking, oh no, this is going to go poorly. 67 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 4: And then every time I see made some McCormick, I 68 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 4: automatically go back to training camp when he you know, 69 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 4: went after a land and Roberts were touching Justine Fields, 70 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 4: and I'm just like, they want physical, Like this guy's physical. 71 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 4: You know, he wasn't afraid to lay it down, you know, 72 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 4: just a few weeks into camp. So I think, you know, 73 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 4: a huge opportunity for him. And I just think that 74 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 4: he is built Ford And I feel like the way 75 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 4: that Pat Meyer and Isaac Williams and also Arthur Smith 76 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 4: have got these guys on the moving train quickly, it's 77 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 4: a testament to them too. 78 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 3: So messy. Along those lines you mentioned justin Fields, it 79 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 3: looks like he's going to be starting again. What's has 80 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 3: he changed to you week the week? Does he seem 81 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 3: very comfortable? Is he a vocal leader? Is he just 82 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 3: kind of mind his own business? I mean, what's he 83 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 3: like on game day? 84 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 4: I think he's very He's very calm, and he admitted 85 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 4: that after the game. It's almost like going on the 86 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 4: football field is like his way of meditating. Is kind 87 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 4: of how I took it, or he's just. 88 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 2: Peaceful and seventy thousand of your closest friends. 89 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, knock your head off. 90 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 4: Right, But it's crazy because when you think about you're 91 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 4: just like the pressure that they're under and it's just nothing. 92 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 4: They just go out there and you know they're not 93 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 4: worried about what's happening around them. That takes a skill 94 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 4: to be to tune that out. Obviously, they're in the NFL, 95 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 4: so it shouldn't come as a surprise. But I just 96 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 4: think that he's not like a scream in your faith 97 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 4: type guy. But he makes sure that he talks to 98 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 4: pretty much everybody on the offense every time they come 99 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 4: off the field, whether it's saying hey, good block, good play, whatever, 100 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 4: he lets them know that he's paying attention. And I 101 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 4: heard when he was on Cam Hayward's podcast this week 102 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 4: that Cam was kind of shouting him out for going 103 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 4: up to Beanie Bishop and practice this week after a 104 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 4: third down drill and saying, Beanie, you did this. This 105 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 4: is why I saw it this way, just you know, 106 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 4: kind of trying to help him out a little bit. 107 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 4: Not that justin field, you can call him like a 108 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 4: veteran guy, but he still was able to help a 109 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 4: young rookie. So I think maybe he's getting more comfortable 110 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 4: in doing that because I think at first, you know, 111 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 4: you came in and you knew that Russ had the 112 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 4: pole position. But clearly a lot has changed since the 113 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 4: first time coach Tomlin has uttered those words. So I 114 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 4: think he's like growing into it. But I just don't 115 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 4: think that he is one of those like raw ra 116 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 4: guys just in general. 117 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it does. It seem like that's his personality. Just 118 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 2: seems like he's pretty laid back guy and sometimes you're 119 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 2: you know, the team when they see that. To me, 120 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 2: you can go, you know, you get the fiery guys 121 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: are one thing. He seems more like a Menca type 122 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 2: leader in terms of that. 123 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 4: Yes, I think that's like the perfect example of you know, 124 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 4: somebody on defense that you can put it to and 125 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 4: it's almost like you know that he's working hard. You're 126 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 4: not thinking like did he do enough to prepare for 127 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 4: this game? You would never say that about Mega. Yeah, 128 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 4: And I think that's the same way as well. And 129 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 4: I think just you know, you were traded while you 130 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 4: were out of the country and you come to a 131 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 4: new team, and you know, things are just different. And 132 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 4: I think it's also just getting to know some of 133 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 4: the players, which I think they've all done a really 134 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 4: good job of speeding up that processes well. And I 135 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 4: don't think it hurts, you know, going to La Trobe 136 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 4: and being with your teammates twenty four to seven for 137 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 4: like three. 138 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 2: Weeks, Missy. I just mentioned Minca and in my five 139 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 2: for Friday today, I talked to Terrell Edmonds. Meka Fitzpatrick 140 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 2: has only he has twenty three turnovers in a Steelers uniform. 141 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 2: Only one of those have come when Terrell Edmons wasn't 142 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 2: it didn't have a helmet that day. I'm thinking Terrell 143 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 2: could get a helmet this week with some of the 144 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 2: injuries that the Steelers have, particularly, you know, especially with 145 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: Alex Highsmith being out and maybe Nick Herby getting a 146 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 2: few more snaps on defense and therefore maybe not being 147 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 2: available on special teams. Could this be a MENCA game? 148 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 2: Could we get back to MENCA ball here? 149 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 3: Well? 150 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 4: What is funny, Dale, is that literally thirty minutes before 151 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 4: you guys called, I was going through some different game 152 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 4: notes that I just, you know, like to have in 153 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 4: one place, and I went back and up. The last 154 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 4: time Nika had an interception, and it was in Baltimore 155 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 4: Week sixteen. It was that New Year's Day game. It 156 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 4: was technically twenty twenty three. It was Tyler Huntley the 157 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 4: Steelers won sixteen thirteen. It was the Kenny Pickett Aggie 158 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 4: Harris game. And that feels like forever ago, And I 159 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 4: know for Minca it has to feel worse because that's 160 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 4: just not his mentality. And I think last season being 161 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 4: asked to do a lot and maybe not playing the 162 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 4: Menca ball that he wants to play or can play well. 163 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 4: So I'm with you. I was like, yeah, I need 164 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 4: to know in that last interception is it's almost like 165 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 4: the Deantae Johnson touchdown that he kept keeping track of. 166 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 2: And I had somebody ask me about that, and you know, 167 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 2: Troy's Paulamalho didn't have seasons like that, So I looked 168 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 2: it up and I'm like, no, In two thousand and seven, 169 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 2: Troy went the entire season without an interception. The one 170 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 2: commonality there was that both guys were injured in those seasons. 171 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 2: Troy only played eleven games in that season and Mank 172 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 2: only played ten last year. So you know, sometimes sometimes 173 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: that factors into this as well. But I think especially 174 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 2: with the is how do I put this nicely as 175 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 2: scatter armed as Anthony Richardson is, uh, this could be 176 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 2: a game that we see makea Fitzpatrick get that pick. 177 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 4: I agree, Yeah, I hope that it happens for Makea's sake, 178 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 4: for the Steeler's sake, for all of our sake, because 179 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 4: you know how much nicer all these segments are and 180 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 4: shows are after a win, but mainly for MAKA because 181 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 4: I just think, you know, yeah, yeah, I mean, Tuesday 182 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 4: is a player's day off. There is never a Tuesday 183 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 4: that I do not see Makeup Fitzpatrick and the cafeteria, 184 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 4: and he's always going up to his little office by 185 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 4: the coach's offices to just sit there and watch the 186 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 4: I mean he is. He is constant. 187 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a definite student of the game. And as 188 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 2: Matt and I always note when we're out watching training 189 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 2: camp practices, he's typically like the last guy on the 190 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 2: field catching tennis balls or doing you know, playing on 191 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 2: the ground and having guys throw balls at it. Just 192 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: works at it constantly, and I know teams avoid him, 193 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 2: but this might be a quarterback who because he likes 194 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 2: to go deep, isn't going to try to avoid him? 195 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 2: And well that might play into the Steelers. 196 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 3: That's what I was going to throw in there too, 197 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 3: is everyone got on the Steelers case for avoiding the 198 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 3: Falcon safeties. I'm like, they do it to Steelers every time, 199 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 3: every week. 200 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed, Well, Missy, we'll let you go. Hey, if 201 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 2: you have to drive somewhere today, give yourself a couple 202 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 2: extra minutes because you'll save yourself some frustration. I'm just 203 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 2: throwing that out. 204 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 3: There to you. 205 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 4: I'm going to try to not have to go to 206 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 4: soccer practice tonight. And that's not even that far, but 207 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 4: I'm with you. It's rainy, it's Friday. I'm a homebody. 208 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 4: It's like, let's order pizza and watch a movie night. 209 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 2: There you go, There you go. Our guest has been 210 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 2: Missy Matthews, Steelers sideline reporter. I appreciate her time. He 211 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 2: is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lollie. You're listening to 212 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 2: the Drive here in the Steelers Audio Network. We'll be 213 00:10:58,640 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 2: back with more right after this. 214 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: At This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt 215 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the 216 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 217 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 2: And we are back warp segment two here on of 218 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 2: the Drive here on Steelers Audio Network. I'm Dale Lolly. 219 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 2: He is the Matt Williamson and Matt the Steelers injury 220 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 2: report is out and uh no, Jayla Warren no, Alex 221 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 2: high Smith no, Michael Pruitt. Isaac Samalo is doubtful. Doubtful, 222 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 2: which means there's a chance. Yeah, maybe he dresses. 223 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, some guys have been ruled out. 224 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 2: That could change. So typically I mean to cut you 225 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 2: off the typically what Mike Tomlin has done in recent 226 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 2: years because of the way they've changed the the designations. 227 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 2: They'll have their walk through on Saturday, and he may 228 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 2: upgrade a guy one or downgrade a guy given what 229 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 2: happened on that day. 230 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I'm sure they're gonna get treatment between now 231 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 3: and then. Yeah, of course. See how do you feeling today, Isaac? 232 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 3: Do you want to you want to dress? Is an 233 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 3: emergency guy we mentioned with Missy in the previous segment. 234 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 3: It looks like Mason McCormick. He confirmed the reporters that 235 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 3: he's going to He was running with the ones today, 236 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 3: so it looks like he's going to make his first 237 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 3: career start. 238 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 2: The other thing Russell Wilson citing about McCormick. Yeah, Russell 239 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 2: Wilson listed as questionable for this game. 240 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 3: I saw that, so I wonder if he'll be the two. 241 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 2: There's that potential. 242 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean just it doesn't mean he's going 243 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 3: to get in the game. But as opposed to the 244 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 3: emergency three, where two things would have to happen for 245 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 3: him to get on the field, this case, if there 246 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 3: is a field's injury or whatever, it's like, all right, 247 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 3: let's turn it to the veteran. 248 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 4: Know. 249 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 2: I'm just looking here to see what he was listed 250 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 2: as last week at this time. 251 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 3: That I don't remember on Friday list. 252 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 2: Yeah I didn't either. I thought he was listed as out. 253 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 3: But while you're searching, I want to talk about McCormick 254 00:12:58,360 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 3: a little bit. 255 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead. Yeah. 256 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 3: I really get the impression that they're just really high 257 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 3: on this kid. Yeah. And I did that Thursday night 258 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 3: show with Mike Pursuda and. 259 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 2: We were talking he was listen as questionable last week as. 260 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 3: Well, Okay, Wilson was. Yeah, and I think this is 261 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 3: a case of it's not Spencer Anderson can't play or 262 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 3: we don't dislike him. It's he's a hard guy to 263 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 3: keep off the field. McCormick. Yeah, and his style of play, 264 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 3: the sixth off offensive line stuff he did last week, 265 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 3: And since Anderson's played some tackle, maybe it makes more 266 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 3: sense for him to be the outside guy. 267 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,599 Speaker 2: That that could be a factor as well. It's just 268 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 2: they're down a tackle, let's just put this guy in 269 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 2: the lineup, and then if we have an injury at tackle, 270 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 2: we're not making two moves. 271 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, right, right, yeah. 272 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 2: And they also to your point, like McCormick. 273 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 3: They like him a lot. He's earned it, you know, 274 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 3: he's hard to keep off the field. 275 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,599 Speaker 2: And as Mike Tomlin said, his prescottin I think it 276 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 2: was last week when he was asked about or maybe 277 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 2: it was earlier this week. They all run together at 278 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 2: this point about McCormick specifically. You know, he mentioned that, 279 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 2: you know, the young guys, and he did mention Atanu too, 280 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 2: so it had to be last week. 281 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, it makes sense. 282 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 2: The three young guys, the three rookies that they have 283 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 2: on that offensive line are all finishers. 284 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 4: Oh. 285 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 2: They they're guys that really want to, you know, drive 286 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 2: you into next week and then put you on the 287 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 2: ground and maybe Gorya on the way to it. 288 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 3: So since we got together, I often talk about Brandon Thorn, 289 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 3: who's the O line guru of the media, and he 290 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 3: has a half hour podcast I happened to listen to 291 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 3: over the last twenty four hours and I think five 292 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 3: minutes of it was on Fraser. I mean, he just 293 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 3: adores the guy and kept talking about his grip strength 294 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 3: and his finishing. And people don't realize this, but it's 295 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 3: rare in the NFL. It's not rare to win a rep. 296 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 3: But it's rare to actually pancake something. 297 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 2: It's rare to put guys consistently on the ground, which 298 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 2: is what Fraser does. 299 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 3: And he does it a lot without holding. 300 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 2: What's that without holding too? 301 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 3: Without holding and you know, sheer power and talk about's 302 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 3: wrestling background, and I just wanted to reiterate to the listeners. 303 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 3: I mean, the experts on O line can't get enough 304 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 3: of this guy. 305 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 2: This is why offensive line coaches in particular love the 306 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 2: wrestling backgrounds and these guys. I mean, I was at 307 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 2: Pitt Johnston when Carlton Hasselrig was there and then covered Carlton, 308 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 2: you know with the Steelers when I when I started, 309 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 2: and I can tell you Carlton, who wrestled at a 310 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 2: way higher level than Zach Fraser, I might add, was 311 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 2: a six time n Cuba champion. 312 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 3: He went on to be a really good guard for 313 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 3: young people. 314 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 2: There was a Pro Bowl guard for the Steelers back 315 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 2: in the early nineties without playing any college football. 316 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 3: Without he wasn't the football player. 317 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, but they know that they have 318 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 2: the they know they understand the leverage. To your point, 319 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 2: they understand hand placement and grip and how to leverage 320 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 2: guys based on just the field, because that's that's what 321 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 2: wrestling's about. 322 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 3: Thorn kept using the word grappling. Yeah, like they really 323 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 3: really understand that. We always had luck recruiting wrestlers too, 324 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 3: because they're always in shape. A football practice compared to 325 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 3: a wrestling practice isn't hard, No. 326 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 2: I mean, if there's a lot of there's a lot 327 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 2: of standing around, and you're. 328 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 3: Right, you know they're going to be unbelievably tough. They 329 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 3: all use their hands well, whether it's O line, D line, 330 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 3: whatever it is. Leverage is always the strength of theirs too. 331 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 3: And they're flat out tough and just have a mentality. Yeah, 332 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 3: I have a friend who I want to have a 333 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 3: great initial quickness. Yeah, you don't even think about the 334 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 3: first step that because they got a duck under or 335 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 3: shoot or even like getting out of the when they 336 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 3: when they're on all fours, getting out of that real quick. Yeah, 337 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 3: things like that. 338 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 2: They have a lot of sudden explosion. Yeah, the explosion. 339 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 2: I have a friend who's whose son it was a 340 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 2: walk on at Texas A and m as A Center. 341 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 2: It was an invited walk on who was a high 342 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 2: school wrestler. And I told him last spring, this is 343 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 2: before the Steelers drafted Zach Frazier, I said, tell your 344 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 2: son to watch this kid at WU at WU. Tell 345 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 2: him to watch his because similar in size, the wrestling background. 346 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 2: I said, watch how he plays center. This is what 347 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 2: you want to aspire to. He like at the center position. 348 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 2: And he came back to me, and this is a 349 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 2: couple of months ago. He's like, WHOA, You're absolutely right. Yeah, 350 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 2: he's you know, he's been watching his tape a lot, 351 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 2: and uh you know that again, just understanding how to 352 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 2: turn people, how to leverage yourself and get use their 353 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 2: bodies against them. 354 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 3: And he puts people on their back, I mean, which 355 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 3: is rare. I mean it's I mean his highlight tape, 356 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 3: it's you know, center highlight tapes don't aren't quite like Randy, 357 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 3: but his is noteworthy and the original point. And we're 358 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 3: not gonna see as much. I'm not gonna see the 359 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 3: first round pick. But he has a nastiness to him 360 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 3: as well. Mccormicks as nasty as any of them. Yeah, 361 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 3: I mean, he really plays a game with an edge, 362 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 3: and it's helpful for the Steelers in this game. No, No, 363 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 3: the Forrest Buckner, that's important. 364 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 2: You know, when we talk about the Colt's injuries, it 365 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 2: doesn't look like they're gonna have Kenny Moore, doesn't look 366 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 2: like Braden Smith may not play, the center may not play. 367 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 2: They've got some serious injuries here. Yeah, particularly on the 368 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 2: front on. 369 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 3: Both sides of the ball, right that I mean no 370 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 3: lines of strength of there is two fifths of it 371 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 3: is compromised. Yeah, might not be against what I think 372 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 3: is the best defensive front in the league. More is 373 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 3: their best corner who match, I mean, Pickens should be 374 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 3: better than anyone covering them in this game. 375 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, now they'll double him and do those kind of things. 376 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 2: But if they do that, it opens up some of 377 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 2: the running lanes. It allows the other guys, maybe Pat 378 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 2: Friarmouth underneath. And as I mentioned yesterday, and these guys 379 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 2: have allowed seventeen completions on twenty pass attempts. 380 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 3: To the tight end. As noted that Bears game, Cole 381 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 3: Comet could do anything he wanted. Yeah, and I'll take 382 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 3: Firemouth over Cometa. 383 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, so it's going to be interesting. The Steeler injurers, 384 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 2: these are ones we kind of knew about. We knew 385 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 2: that Alex Highsmith wasn't going to play. We're pretty sure 386 00:18:55,040 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 2: Jalen warm wasn't going to play. Wilson Wilson say so 387 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 2: not the Killers right now. And you know there was 388 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 2: a game last night, Yeah that we saw that the Cowboys, 389 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 2: who are the Steelers next opponent. 390 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 3: Wasn't the prettiest of the games. 391 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 2: Was not the prettiest of the games. But they had 392 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 2: a lot of injuries in that. 393 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 3: Game, including Michael Parsons. Yeah, couldn't go from the blue 394 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 3: tent to the locker room. Had to get on a car. 395 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 2: They had to get on a cart to do it. 396 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 3: They don't have to tell us anything for a couple 397 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 3: of days since they have a long break and they 398 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 3: do have a long break. 399 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 2: There'll probably be some news about that one on Sunday, 400 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 2: I would think on the pregame shows because it's Michael Parsons. 401 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 3: And Lawrence their other top player missed much of that 402 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 3: game as well. Yeah, and frankly watching Dallas, I mean, 403 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 3: we're really getting ahead of ourselves. But their depth isn't great. 404 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,959 Speaker 3: I mean, it's Ceedee Lamb, it's Parsons, it's Dak. They 405 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 3: don't I know, they stopped the run last night, but 406 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 3: they don't stop the run. They don't run the ball. 407 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, here's the thing that's interesting to me, Matts. 408 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 2: I was thinking about that as I'm watching Parsons get 409 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 2: carted off. Parsons now hurt. We know that Miles Garrett's 410 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 2: dealing with a bunch of stuff. Yeah, it was a hip, 411 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 2: late leg foot. He had three different injury designations that 412 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 2: he's going to try to play through. Max Crosby's dealing 413 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 2: with some stuff and stuff with the Raiders as well. 414 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 3: Bosa hasn't had a great year, by the way, right right, 415 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 3: He's actually been a little down. 416 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 2: But I was thinking as I was watching that game, 417 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 2: and I'm watching that Cowboys defense I'm like everybody wanted 418 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,719 Speaker 2: to give the Defensive Player of the Year award this 419 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 2: year to Michael Parsons, just like last year it was 420 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 2: Garrett before the season, it's your turn to do this. 421 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 2: If TJ. Watt just plays and does TJ. Watt stuff, 422 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 2: which we've kind of become numb to. 423 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 3: A little bit, seventeen TJ. Watt games, yeah, yeah. 424 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 2: Which means he probably has twenty sacks somewhere in that range. Yeah, 425 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 2: and they have them. They have the number one defense 426 00:20:56,280 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 2: in the league. How's it getting denied this year? 427 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, the only Aiden Hutchinson would be one 428 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,959 Speaker 3: name that's come to mind that's really toward up early. 429 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 3: But you're right, the usual suspects aren't looking as strong 430 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 3: as candidates for sure. Yeah. 431 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 2: No, I just, I just I mean, because that the 432 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 2: argument last year for Garrett, Well, he's on the best defense. 433 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 2: Even though I did I wasn't quite sure they were 434 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 2: the best defense because the home road splits were so 435 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 2: drastic drastic what right now on this he's the best 436 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 2: player on the best defense in the league. 437 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 3: That's true at the moment, Yes, it absolutely is. 438 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 2: It's undeniable right now as we sit here now if 439 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 2: they go out and continue to do what they've been doing. 440 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 2: I just don't know how you can deny him that. 441 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 3: Because the numbers are already great. They could have been 442 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 3: a lot better in week one. He got several things 443 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 3: taken away from him. But no one's gonna remember that 444 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 3: when the when the people are voting. Staying healthy is 445 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 3: the chore for all these guys, no doubt course. And 446 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 3: you know, can the the rest of the defense continue 447 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 3: to play at an extremely high level. I think the 448 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 3: answer is probably yes. No. It's a great it's a 449 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 3: great point. I mean he has I mean, he's always 450 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 3: going to be in the mix. Yeah, you know, and 451 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 3: that that's in itself, that's an Aaron Donald like te J. 452 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 3: It's a JJ Watt Aaron Donald type career. When every 453 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 3: year you're. 454 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 2: In the mix, you're in the player, it's not easy 455 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 2: to do. No, And I have this little nugget for you, Matt. 456 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 2: I tweeted this out last night and apparently it's gone 457 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 2: kind of viral, and I guess the McAfee show picked 458 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 2: up on it today. I looked up the crew who 459 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 2: was working and it was as again, as I'm watching 460 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 2: What's unfolding before me in the Thursday night game. I'm like, oh, 461 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 2: I forgot to look and see who's doing the Steeler 462 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 2: game this week. It's Land Clark's crew. They've called fifty 463 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 2: penalties in three weeks. Yeah, great, Yeah, second only to 464 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 2: the great Cleete Blakeman's crew on a per game basis. 465 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 3: Was Cleete last night? 466 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 2: Cleete was the game. 467 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 3: Well, I remember the game of the. 468 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 2: Cleet was not last night. Cleek last night. The crew 469 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 2: last night is actually the crew that worked the Steelers 470 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 2: game on Sunday. Okay, okay, Now they only had three 471 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: penalties in that game. 472 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there were a lot of penalties committed last night. 473 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. Sometimes it's just. 474 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 3: Sometimes it is what it is. Again, let's let everything 475 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 3: go well. 476 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 2: And that's so I dug into Clark's crew a little bit. 477 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 2: They have forty three penalties in the past two weeks 478 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 2: that they've called. Wow, so more than twenty in each game, 479 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 2: but twelve of those have been false starts. That's the 480 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 2: most called penalty that they've had is false starts. Third 481 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 2: most you have to throw that right, Third most is 482 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 2: illegal formation. So eighteen of their penalties are pre snap 483 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 2: our pre snap offensive stuff that you have to call, 484 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 2: and then holding was the second most thing. They've called 485 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 2: nine holding penalties in three games, which is three per game, 486 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 2: which is above average but not ridiculous. 487 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I do think. 488 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 2: Like Blakeman's crew called thirteen holding penalties the first two 489 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 2: weeks of the season, but. 490 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 3: That being said, is unwatchable. Some of that can translate 491 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 3: to being I do think think a crew that throws 492 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 3: a lot of flags for holds favors of Steelers should 493 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 3: should it should mean. It doesn't always. There's some TJ 494 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 3: stuff this year that's been uncalled. It's remarkable, and some 495 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 3: of the Garret Bowl stuff was remarkable. But I would 496 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 3: think that favor is a better D line, you would think. 497 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 2: But so if you're if you were a disciplined offense, 498 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 2: don't fall start and you don't line up illegally. 499 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 3: So that should be okay. Thinking it's just who the 500 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 3: quarterbacks are. Richardson's not going to be as good at 501 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 3: getting everyone aligned and all that. 502 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 2: He just knew he's technically he's a rookie. Yeah, really, realistically, 503 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 2: he's a rookie, and we know Mike Tomlin's record against 504 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 2: rookie quarterbacks. 505 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 3: He also is a crazy record. It was in the 506 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 3: stat pack this year, about twenty four years and younger. 507 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 3: He destroys destroys yeaheah. And he's a twenty four year 508 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 3: old quarterback. Yeah, just young player. 509 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 2: And one of the guys who actually beat him was CJ. 510 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 2: Stroud Last year. Stroud was like two day short of 511 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 2: his twenty oh real birthday. 512 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 3: He was gonna about to graduate out of that class. 513 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 3: Yeah today by Monday night game or whatever, you might 514 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:08,479 Speaker 3: not have been. 515 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, let's get to another break. He is the 516 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lolli. You're listening to the Drive 517 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 2: here on the Steelers Audio Network. We'll be back with 518 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 2: more right after this. 519 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 520 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black 521 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 522 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolli. He is the Matt Williamson 523 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 2: and you're listening to the Drive here on the Steelers 524 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 2: Audio Network. And of course you can hear us every 525 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 2: Monday through Friday from four to six pm on the 526 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio. Well, however you get that, but we 527 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 2: would like you to maybe download the pot the Steelers 528 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 2: official mobile app. You can hear it on there. Of course, 529 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 2: you can also like it on those or follow up 530 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 2: on that, and you can also watch us on YouTube, 531 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 2: which I so appreciate. 532 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 3: As you mentioned in previous weeks, I mean, leave us 533 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 3: comments on YouTube as well. You've been great about checking 534 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 3: that stuff out. It's a good way to communicate. Yeah. 535 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 2: I just mentioned some of those injuries. Matt pulling up 536 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 2: for the Cowboys. Yeah, DeMarcus Lawrence expected to miss multiple 537 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 2: weeks with a foot injury. Michael Parsons has a high 538 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 2: ankle spring. That's that's typically multiple weeks. 539 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 3: That's probably not a ten day injury, and if not, 540 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 3: so it'd be tentative start one of those type of things, 541 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 3: tweak it. That's their best two defensive players and it 542 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 3: really isn't even close. Yeah, and they I mean, Parsons 543 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 3: a super star. Everybody knows that, but Lawrence is a 544 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 3: really difficult player to play against. Again, I don't like 545 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 3: their defensive depth. I don't like the whole team's depth, 546 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 3: to be honest with you. They did shut down the 547 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 3: run last night. That was something to hang their hat on, 548 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 3: but by. 549 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 2: Doing that, they allowed Daniel Jones to look like a 550 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 2: real quarterback, right. 551 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 3: And He's the whole planet. Those you're throwing the Deil 552 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 3: Robinson and Neighbors, they had like thirty targets the two 553 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 3: of them on both those teams. Like offensively, everything went 554 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 3: to Wan Dell in Neighbors and then other than Lamb. 555 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 3: What do the Cowboys have? Not as much as you think. 556 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not not great. As I mentioned that. For 557 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 2: the Colts, Shane stike And has ruled Kenny Moore out 558 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 2: quld he pay out. That means they're going to see 559 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 2: more of the rookie. 560 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, is gonna play too. 561 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 2: We'll see if he's ready to be a full time 562 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 2: player at this point. No word yet on Taekwon Lewis, 563 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 2: one of their other defensive ends. Ryan Kelly the center, 564 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 2: he has a neck issue. In Braden Smith, Uh, none 565 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 2: of those guys. Those three guys didn't practice on Friday. Yeah, 566 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 2: but they haven't been ruled out yet. They're veteran guys, 567 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 2: particularly Kelly and and Braden Smith. But again, if you're 568 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 2: not able to practice on a Friday, what do you got? 569 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 3: That's gonna be tough. And I don't know who the 570 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 3: backup center is off the top of my head, but 571 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 3: the tackles of the rookie out of Pit gone claves. 572 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 3: And I know I'm saying his name wrong, but that's 573 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 3: a massive downgrade. I mean he might be I kind 574 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 3: of liked him coming out of Pit. I think he's 575 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 3: a decent prospect, but that's not the way you want 576 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 3: to get thrust in to start. 577 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 2: Your career either, meet mister Watt, Yeah exactly. The backup 578 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 2: center center is Danny Pinter. 579 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 3: Okay, you've kind of been around with four or five years. Yeah, okay, 580 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 3: but it's a downgrade. 581 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 2: They could also they also have Taylor or Tanner BORDERLINI, 582 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 2: they could start at center. Well, okay, maybe to Wisconsin. 583 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, They're not the worst options in the world. 584 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 3: I mean a lot of teams are way worse off 585 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 3: than that. These are a couple of prospects that are decent. 586 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 3: But that's a tough, tough test. 587 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 2: I'm gonna see if BORDERLINI would start. I'm sure Keanu 588 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 2: Benton is quite u they. 589 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 3: Each other pretty well. Yeah, absolutely, and the more injury 590 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 3: is big. Yeah. I mean, he's a quality to It's 591 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 3: a player, not only their nickel, but he's you know, 592 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 3: the outside guy. And pay is not a bad player either, right, 593 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 3: I found this crazy when we were studying the Broncos. 594 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 3: But patri Taine was the only first round pick on 595 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 3: that entire defense in Denver. I think the Colts only 596 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 3: have two. I mean I think it's pay and a 597 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 3: lot too. 598 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and lot doesn't start now with payout. 599 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 3: I mean, Buckner is a former first but he's not 600 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 3: out there either, So like they don't have a lot 601 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 3: of pedigree on that side of the ball either. 602 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 2: Well, the interesting thing is with more out, Chris Lamman's 603 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 2: becomes their nickel corner. 604 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know. 605 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 2: He's been on the injury report always. 606 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 3: Yeah you mentioned that. That's only reason I know his 607 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 3: name is because we've brought him up as he's limited 608 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 3: or whatever are we? So that being said, though, I 609 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 3: don't think the Steelers are all of a sudden he 610 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 3: come out in five wide. 611 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 2: No, you know, I don't expect that, right, But I 612 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 2: will say this, This defensive scheme values the long cornerbacks. 613 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they want size. 614 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 2: They want size. So if you don't have that size, 615 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 2: or if they the guys that they have have size, 616 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 2: I should say is that one Brents is out right. 617 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 2: Brents is out He's the six to three guy. Right, Yeah, 618 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 2: I don't know if any of their other guys can 619 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 2: bump in to the I. 620 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 3: See what you're saying. Yeah, because they they're so big 621 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 3: on outside corners. 622 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 2: Like the Steelers don't ask Corey Trice, Hey, like, he 623 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 2: was never a factor in becoming their nickelback, of. 624 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 3: Course, and that's what they want. They want Trice. They 625 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 3: drafted Rush, you know, I mean, and that's the type 626 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 3: of corners there after they want Richard Sherman, you know. 627 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 3: And you're right, Typically those guys don't bump inside well 628 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 3: at all. 629 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 2: They don't change direction. 630 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 3: Well yeah, and they also haven't drafted corners particularly well either, 631 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 3: you know, which is part of the problem. That's a 632 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 3: good question. I mean, I would imagine we would notice 633 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 3: if it's the Steelers, but roster construction, because the Steelers 634 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 3: are similar to I mean, they're outside guys are pretty 635 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 3: distinctly different than they're inside, which is a Cam Sutton 636 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 3: plus in his because he can do both. You don't 637 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 3: keep more than two, right, you know. 638 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 2: That's the reason Darius Rush didn't make this roster. Last 639 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 2: year they drafted they drafted three in the same draft 640 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 2: they drafted three. It was Brent's rush was the second one. 641 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 2: Rush was in the fifth round. Brents I think was 642 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 2: a second round pick, and. 643 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 3: I think maybe very very early second. 644 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 2: I think Lamman's was the guy they drafted. 645 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 3: That's the other one. 646 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 2: I think he was the guy they drafted in the 647 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 2: in the seventh round and they kept him because he's 648 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 2: a no, it wasn't it wasn't even him, but the 649 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 2: guy that they kept in it was the seventh round 650 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 2: pick was a slot, a true slot. 651 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 652 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 2: And so they looked at Rush and said, well, Brents's 653 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 2: Brnce is making the team, and we go too many 654 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 2: outside guys, too many outside guys. That's why they tried 655 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 2: to put him on ir or put him on the 656 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 2: practice squad, and the Chiefs just scooped him right up. 657 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. 658 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 2: And then the Steelers scooped him up off of the 659 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 2: Chiefs practice squad when they had some injuries. That's how 660 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 2: that's how he came Steeler. 661 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not a situation of boy, he was terrible, 662 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 3: he's a bad pick. Yeah, we actually still don't even know, 663 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 3: you know, right right, but he's a Steeler. 664 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 2: So, as I mentioned with Missy Matt, I expect Terrell 665 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 2: Edmonds to be active, okay for this game. 666 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 3: And you think he plays some defense too. 667 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 2: I think, you know, if they have to play any dime, 668 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 2: I could see I could see using him, yeah, as 669 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 2: that extra you know, defensive back, you know, with Trice out, 670 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 2: I think he kind of replaces Trice as that is 671 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 2: that other guy in the in the slot type. 672 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,959 Speaker 3: So I found it interesting the Colts have only not 673 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 3: only are they very generic on defense, they've only used 674 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 3: two personnel groupings all year. On offense, they're either in 675 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 3: twelve with two tight ends and they revolt there's three 676 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 3: different tight ends to take those two spots or one spot, 677 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 3: or they're in eleven, which is more their their case. 678 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 3: I mean, they're I think the eighth most usage of eleven. 679 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 3: But they don't do anything outside the box, you know, 680 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 3: and they also have a really young, experienced quarterback. They 681 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 3: probably can't handle a lot of those things. Yeah, so 682 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 3: I wonder that. I mean, where I'm going with this 683 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 3: is if it's Pittman downs Pierce a tight end and Taylor, 684 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 3: I don't know that I'm playing dime against that. I mean, 685 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 3: is that a nickel situation or is that a dime situation? 686 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 3: Probably Nickel. 687 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 2: The only the only thing, the only way running quarterback, Yeah, 688 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 2: would be I'd want the bigger body out there. Let's 689 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 2: say it's third and twelve, then you might go dime 690 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 2: and having a guy with Edmunds body type out there. 691 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think he could be useful for the whole season. Yeah. 692 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 3: I mean there's definitely gonna be times where Edmonds is 693 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 3: going to be a factor in my opinion, Yeah, I 694 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 3: think picking him up for nothing is a nice, nice edition. 695 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 2: Absolutely. Pittman leads this team in catches. 696 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 3: But it's so much lower than he used to be 697 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 3: it was. 698 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 2: I mean, he this were talking about a guy who 699 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 2: had one hundred catches last year. He's averaging three catches 700 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 2: per game right now. But he's still their chain mover. 701 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean he's not his fault. He's he's 702 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 3: still a really good player. Like we'd love him if 703 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 3: he's a Steeler. 704 00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 2: I think this game matches up like you, Joey Porter 705 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 2: Junior on him. Yeah, in a lot of those key situations. 706 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 3: Yep. 707 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 2: And I think it works out well because you've got 708 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 2: the speed guy Dante Jack. 709 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 3: Say that right, I Mean all Pierce does is run 710 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 3: by people, you know. I mean, it's not that he's 711 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 3: a burner, but he's a very linear athlete, former volleyball player, 712 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,720 Speaker 3: great vertical Paul Long, but he's not a route runner, 713 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And I think Jackson, if 714 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 3: it's just a foot race down the sideline, that's right 715 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 3: up his alley, you know what I mean. And Porter 716 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,760 Speaker 3: should do well against Pittman, who will play some slot 717 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 3: and move around there. But Downs is a slot and 718 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 3: the Donnie Mitchell has kind of been forgotten. Now with 719 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,280 Speaker 3: Downs coming back, I may even worry more about Downs, 720 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 3: Like I could see Downs leading the team in receptions 721 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,320 Speaker 3: in this game. But you have to be a precise 722 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 3: passer with him. 723 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 2: And that's the problem, right, because he's not a big guy. 724 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 3: He's got small catching radius. Everything's quick, it's timing, and 725 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 3: that's not the quarterback's back, you know. 726 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, accuracy is a big part of that, and well 727 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 2: Richardson just hasn't been very accurate. 728 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,479 Speaker 3: No, not even close, right, And. 729 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 2: I think you want to definitely get him. I mean, 730 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 2: he doesn't throw the ball well period from the pocket 731 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 2: on the short stuff and you know, touch passes and 732 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 2: things that things of that nature. But I want to 733 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 2: get his feet moving. 734 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 3: He does some odd things on the move, you know, 735 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 3: make some weird decisions where you can tell he's always 736 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 3: been the best athlete on the field, probably in any 737 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 3: sport he's ever been. I'm just gonna try this because 738 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 3: it usually worked in high school or college or whatever, 739 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 3: and it has them not getting away with it very often. 740 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, probably not the best idea to do. 741 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 3: Some of that. A great decision maker either, he is not. 742 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 2: And again a guy who has only made this is 743 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 2: going to be his eighth career start, so technically he's 744 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 2: basically a rookie. 745 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 3: He is not much different than Nix and Caleb Williams 746 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 3: and those right, He's not he's not finishing those starts 747 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 3: last year. 748 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 1: Yeah. 749 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 2: And he's not a guy who threw a lot of 750 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 2: passes in college. 751 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 3: No, very very little, and doesn't have a lot of 752 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 3: experience period at the college or NFL level. I wonder 753 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 3: times are getting tough, you know in Indy, and things 754 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 3: that they may have thought to start the season might 755 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 3: go out the window. Like it seems pretty clear to 756 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 3: me that they do not want to feature him as 757 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 3: a runner. Yeah, and I'm just pulling I'm just trying 758 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 3: to read the TV. 759 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 2: They maybe he's gotten scared off by last year. 760 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 3: Well that's what I'm saying. I bet the owners like, guys, 761 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 3: we drafted him fourth overall, and can we can we 762 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 3: get him to finish a game? You know, And of 763 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 3: course you're gona blame the coaching staff, You're not going 764 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,760 Speaker 3: to blame the player. That's just how the world works. 765 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 3: Coaches take all the heat for all those things. But 766 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,919 Speaker 3: now it's like, I prefer not to get fired. Let's 767 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,240 Speaker 3: run this guy fifteen times because that's our best weapon. 768 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 2: I mean, and I don't know that this is the 769 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 2: defense that you want to do that against. 770 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 3: Though I don't know right right, I'm just saying it's 771 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 3: des where times in Indy they're lucky to have will win. 772 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,320 Speaker 2: Because the other thing is you got to tell the owner, well, 773 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 2: because hey, he comes in, we're paying twenty seven a 774 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 2: whole bunch of money. Yeah to carry the football? 775 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 3: Yeah? 776 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, how about we let him carry the football and 777 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 2: let the quarterback throw it? 778 00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, remember all the discrepancies last you know, Taylor did 779 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 3: start the year because it's contract hold out and now 780 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 3: their best buddies again and everything fine, But but the. 781 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,919 Speaker 2: Other thing is Matt because you'd only get to see 782 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 2: four games of him and four limited games of him 783 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 2: last year. Yeah, they got to know what they have. 784 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 3: Oh, it's kind of like the Brice guy. 785 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 2: By the end of this year, you're gonna be through 786 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 2: two years and you're like, okay, what is he? 787 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they have the eighth pick in the draft 788 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 3: and are we back in the quarterback market or not? 789 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,399 Speaker 3: And even you know it's not water on the bridge now, 790 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 3: but they had to redo the offense for Minshew, you know, 791 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 3: like is that a better use of our personnel or 792 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 3: is this you know, really talented but ultra raw quarterback 793 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 3: a better path? You know. I mean there's a lot 794 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 3: of questions that need answer. 795 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 2: Like if I think to me, if I'm the Colts, 796 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,919 Speaker 2: this season for me is all about a learning about 797 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson b teaching him to do quarterback things in 798 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 2: the NFL. 799 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:57,320 Speaker 3: With fields. 800 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, for the long term, right, yeah, because again he 801 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 2: had what ten starts in college or whatever it was. 802 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was not a very. 803 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 2: Limited plate in college, and they drafted him based on 804 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 2: his potential. 805 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, right right, I mean skill set and potential. 806 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 3: And I mentioned that Thursday night show we do with 807 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 3: Merrill Hodge and in pursuita you think Clowney's a key 808 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,399 Speaker 3: for Maryland to bring up Anthony Richardson. He just went 809 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 3: on and on and on and one percent of it 810 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 3: was positive. Yeah. 811 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that does not surprise man. 812 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 3: No, that's not his style. And boy, he's all over 813 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 3: the place. 814 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 2: Absolutely. Let's get to another break. That's going to do 815 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 2: it for our number one of the drive here on 816 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Network, Matt and I'll be back with 817 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 2: our number two right after this.