WEBVTT - The Gossip 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:04.600 Tension increases as the seven top knitters in the land 0:00:04.840 --> 0:00:06.320 prepare their needles for combat. 0:00:06.800 --> 0:00:09.200 So, Tony, Michael, do you know what I heard? 0:00:09.640 --> 0:00:11.320 I have a feeling you're about to tell me. 0:00:11.400 --> 0:00:14.840 On this final judgment day Speed and Accuracy in following 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:16.280 eight separate patents. 0:00:15.960 --> 0:00:18.320 I have an on good authority that Max Verstaffan is 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:21.000 planning on retiring and devoting all of his time to 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:22.120 competitive crochet. 0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:25.520 New South Wales wool Knit Off champion Missus Green has 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:27.200 been knitting for over fifty years. 0:00:27.240 --> 0:00:28.560 Interesting this year. 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:31.800 A surprising new Challenger X racing driver from Holland and 0:00:31.840 --> 0:00:34.320 mister Max fust Tarpan had an early start at the 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:35.040 age of four. 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:36.919 And you know I'm going to ask this, but who 0:00:36.920 --> 0:00:37.519 are your sources? 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:39.239 I can't. I can't tell you that. 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:41.879 Let's just say it gossip. 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:46.040 It's it. 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:54.440 Go for My Heart podcast one on one Studios and 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:55.920 Sports Illustrated Studios. 0:00:56.120 --> 0:01:10.760 This is choosing sides one. Wow. Wow, Michael. Yes, I 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:11.679 have a question for you. 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:15.720 I thought questions were my job and your job was 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:16.240 the answers. 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:20.520 We're shaking it up. Do you think we can have 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:25.000 sports and athletes without that entertainment factor like our sports 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:28.479 just a form of entertainment or should sports be put 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:32.600 in their own category of human activity? Can we separate 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:32.920 the two. 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:38.200 I love that question because that question immediately identifies that 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:40.920 sport is entertainment. You know, lots of times I think 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:45.600 fans forget that sport is entertainment. First, we're selling tickets, yep, 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:48.000 so that is very important, but should have been a 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:48.880 separate category. 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:51.400 I like this idea. I like this idea. 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:54.800 It's one I think that's come up a lot, especially 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:57.080 in the Formula one world, where for some reason people 0:01:57.280 --> 0:01:59.720 seem to think that if one used to be just 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:02.640 about sports, and I think they forget the genesis of Formula. 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:05.200 One, but I mean just about sports, not about entertainment. 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:08.680 It was which you know, again it was started with amateurs, 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:10.560 so they were hardly the greatest, biggest athletes. I think 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:12.240 the average age on the grid, you know, back in 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:14.240 the fifties was probably forty or fifty year. 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:14.720 Old, right. 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:16.959 But it came out because there was a great piece 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:19.040 that was written by It is of a blackstock where 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:21.240 she highlights the fact and I think you'll appreciate this, 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:23.480 but she highlights the fact that the Formula one owners 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:27.359 I Liberty Media are currently stuck marketing a sport when 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:29.280 they were actually sold entertainment. 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:32.239 That is a big difference. You know, those are two 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:35.880 very different things. Look, if you're asking me, which sounds 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:38.240 like you are, I don't need a T shirt, gun, 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:40.400 I don't need a dance squad. I mean, the halftime 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:42.160 show is fine, but I'm here to watch the event. 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:43.640 I'm here to watch the sport. 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:46.640 Well, I'm actually here to convince you otherwise. 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:48.920 Of course you are, Tony, that you are. 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:51.120 In fact missing out on a huge element of what 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:53.679 if one actually has to offer. And to help me out, 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:56.800 we have assembled an amazing team of super fans and experts. 0:02:56.840 --> 0:02:58.840 You know, Tony never just gives you her opinion. She 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:01.600 gives your opinion, and then she hassembles all this evidence 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:02.680 to sway you. 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:04.200 I assemble the A team. 0:03:04.680 --> 0:03:09.200 So I am Rashi. Everyone in the entire world probably 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:14.200 knows me as my Instagram page name, which is amazing. Lou. 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:16.680 So I'm Hannah. I am one half of the Fan 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:17.680 Behavior podcast. 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:18.320 I am Zoe. 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:21.320 I am the other half of fan Behavior, and our 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:26.160 goal is really just to bring people together, fangirls, fanboys, really, 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:27.160 whoever you are. 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:30.079 And this next voice you might find familiar. 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:32.960 I'm considering getting two fish in twenty twenty four, and 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:36.840 I'm gonna name them Lewis Hamilfin and then Adrian Bowie. 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:41.320 That's a voice. I recognize those puns. I recognize those puns. 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:44.520 Lilly Herman, writer editor by trade. In the context of 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:48.080 F one, I did co host season one of Choosing 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:50.720 Sides F one, so I am very familiar with everyone. 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:53.640 I'm here to be a menace to Yohai and then 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:58.360 elsewhere in F one. I am the creator of the 0:03:58.520 --> 0:03:59.960 F one culture newsletter Engine Fail. 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:02.440 What would you say fans are missing out if they 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:06.480 only watch the race, Like, do you actually understand formula one? 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:08.160 If you do is tune in for the race and 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:08.720 then tune out. 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:13.040 It's almost like going from a two D looking at 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:16.400 a two D shape like a circle into a three 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:19.240 D sphere right, or like a square into a cube. 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:23.800 Like you just see more dimensions, more layers, more pandemonium, 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:26.960 more tension, more stakes. They all exist the more you 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:28.039 know about the sport. 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:29.160 I love a story. 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:30.800 I love like watching a story. 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:33.400 I feel much more invested in something if I understand 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:35.360 how we got here and where it came from. 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:38.599 Look at Alpine for instance. Obviously you might say, ah, 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:40.720 a French team with two French drivers. That seems a 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:43.760 little emotional and dramatic to begin with. But then if 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:46.760 you know that Pierre Gasley and Estabonocon have had this 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:51.880 weird tension friction rivalry going back to their teen years 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:54.160 and they had some massive falling out after having been 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:56.880 friends for many years, that adds a layer. And then 0:04:56.880 --> 0:05:00.360 if you had the extra layer of Ralph Schumacher going 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:03.880 on a you know, a network program in a different 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:06.640 country and claiming it's it's because one stole the other's 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:09.039 girlfriend when they were fourteen, Like that's nuts, That is 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:09.960 absolutely hilarious. 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:24.479 Yeah, wait, what the fuck you what it's second anyway, Yeah, 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:25.280 we're just consident off. 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:28.720 Please serious, you're saying serious? 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:30.560 I thought. 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:35.240 But then you yeah, you watch them on the racetrack 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:37.000 and of course you know there's times where like Pierre 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:39.640 does something to Esteban Estmon makes a comment over the radio. 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:42.839 You better understand it's not just about oh, it's my teammate, 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:45.680 my competitor, you know that dynamic, it's these guys have 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:50.000 a lifetime of history together, had very different upbringings have 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:53.280 been competing together since they were literal children, and now 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:55.800 they're on the same team, and they both everyone speaks French. 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:58.360 They're just cursing each other out and in multiple languages, 0:05:58.400 --> 0:05:59.679 and I'm having. 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:04.839 I probably have older you know, Okay, boomer beliefs on 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:08.960 this topic. Okay, I think talent and performance should be 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:14.800 the top deciding factory. But I'm a comedian who values 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:19.200 and prides myself on being funny, but have struggled with 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:22.080 the marketing, you know, in my own opinion, struggle with 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:23.719 the marketing side of this shit. And then you see 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:26.640 younger comics who are so good at marketing, and I'm like, 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:29.320 they can't even tell a joke. So I'm coming at 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:31.560 it from like Grandpa's mad. Yeah, you know, so I'm 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:35.880 very fully aware of that. I do think Lebron James 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:39.640 Michael Jordan was fully aware of the marketing but was 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:42.680 such a complicated person. Lebron James came on the scene 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:44.880 and it's just as like, holy shit, he's not only 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:47.520 the best player, but also is the best marketing. Is 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:51.400 also fully branded at an early age. So what was 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:51.920 your question? 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:56.000 My question was, do you are you in this day 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:58.440 and age, and you kind of answered it. My question was, 0:06:58.440 --> 0:06:59.919 in this day and age, do you think it is 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:03.200 fair that we expect these athletes to be top of 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:07.679 their game, the best in their industry, also incredibly marketable presence, 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:10.080 have a great presence on social media, be willing to 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:12.200 do all the press conferences, be willing to do the 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:14.440 late night show. I'm curious for both of you if 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:17.080 there was a particular moment where you're like, oh, this 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:17.360 is it. 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:20.360 I'm hooked the second that Daniel Ricardo came on screen. Honestly, 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:24.360 same for me. I often lovingly for too. Daniel as 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:27.240 the gateway drug. I think there's so many people, countless 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:29.480 people that really have Danie Ricardo to credit for why 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:32.680 they are f one fans or or why they initially 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:33.960 became Formula one fans. 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:34.720 So yeah, it was. 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:36.800 It was right away when he said that he was 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:38.440 Danie Riccardo and he was a car mechanic. 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:42.240 I was invested. Forgive my ignorance, has he won anything? 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:46.080 But I mean, I like the guy I'm Adam the 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:48.920 Daily Show very not no, but I just like where 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:51.640 it's not cool to me when the marketing is so 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:53.080 far ahead of the performance. 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:56.080 But maybe that has helped him stay in the game 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:57.160 more so than anyone else. 0:07:57.240 --> 0:07:59.920 I was going to say the same thing, Yeah, it's smart, 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:00.720 stay alive. 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:04.520 I will never not root for him because he was 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:06.600 the first person that I connected with, and in some 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:08.680 weird way, I feel like I owe him, like he 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:10.760 is the reason that I'm here doing this, and so 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:14.000 I feel like he deserves that from me because I 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:15.840 almost it's almost like a thank you to him, like 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:19.080 I will never not cheer for you because I'm so 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:22.280 grateful to you for getting me in this position, which 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:23.680 is what I would tell him if I ever met him. 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:26.400 I think they're always gonna go for this. The brands 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:29.280 behind the drivers are always going to try to get 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:31.080 this because this is the sweet spot with the most 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:33.480 amount of money and the most amount of But they 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:36.440 all can't do it. And they all cannot do it. 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:39.800 It's gonna backfire, it's gonna be problematic at times, and 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:43.360 it's gonna feel clunky, and thanks to money and fame, 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:47.600 I felt I was entitled. Look at Tiger woods Man. 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:50.760 You know, they created this, he had the talent, they 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:54.280 created the story, everything was perfect, and it was a 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:57.080 fucking disaster. I mean now, it's a disaster. The guy 0:08:57.200 --> 0:08:59.360 is like a pussy hound who can't stay off pain 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:01.240 meds and crash his car every six months. 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:02.400 You can quote me on all that. 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:04.760 It's insane. It's like, is that really good for golf? 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:08.480 I brought this shame on myself. I hurt my wife, 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:09.960 my kids. 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:12.040 We like putting people on pedestals so hard and then 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:14.920 bring yeah, yeah, that we can't. But I think so 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:16.439 here's the thing. I know you're not the biggest fan 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:18.960 of Maxistappen, but I do think when we have this conversation, 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:24.760 Maxistappen is a perfect example of someone who has sheer talent, dedication, 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:28.800 shows up, does the job, does not care about anything else. 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:30.599 Everyone will agree. I think his fans would agree, and 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:32.400 that's what they love about him. He's there to race, 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:35.240 he's rough around the edges. When he's done racing, he's 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:36.720 probably gonna jet off and we're not gonna hear fro 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:38.280 him that often until he shows up to race for 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:39.720 something else or what have you. 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:41.560 But that also means that the media narrative is not 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:43.720 in his control, in his hands, and he's been painted 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:44.480 as a villain. 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:47.600 I love that he doesn't do that bullshit. 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:50.520 I love that he wins the races and says that's 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:52.600 what's This is how I'm communicating to you. 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:52.960 There you go. 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:55.960 That's a Jimmy Conners vibe in tennis. Oh you think 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:57.600 I'm an asshole? I just won the tournament. 0:09:57.679 --> 0:09:58.920 It's over. It does I don't even have to do 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:00.000 an interview. I can do what I want. 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:02.679 I love that. And if you know when that works. 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:03.720 When you win, When he. 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:06.680 Starts placing six over and over again, the brands, the 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:08.960 sponsors are going to say, like, you gotta do this podcast, 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:10.080 you gotta do the thing you know? 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:11.480 So would I don't stick around? 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:13.240 Oh, they don't stick around. Yeah, and that's okay too. 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:16.160 I think he is an incredible driver, but I don't 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:21.000 have that level of Oh I feel a kinship or 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:23.959 a connection or I'm searching for your content. 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:24.480 I want to. 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:28.720 See you off the track. Whereas a driver like Yuki Sonoda. 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:30.080 Yuki, how many eight year olds would it take to 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:30.840 beat you in a fight? 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:34.120 Oh, eight years is quite good, age seven. 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:37.720 I could watch Yuki content all day, every day. Give 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:38.320 me more of it. 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:40.440 You could only use one curse word for the rest 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:40.960 of your life. 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:41.560 What would it be? 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:42.560 Fuck. 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:45.400 Everyone loves him, and I think a lot of it 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:47.160 has to do with the fact that he's so likable 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:49.480 off track, and I think anyone that says they don't 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:53.040 allow the driver off track personality to influence how they 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:56.199 feel about the driver on track, I think is lying 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:57.320 because how can you not? 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:00.959 What are the rumors in gossip F one? Right now? 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:03.079 Where do you even start? 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:05.480 I feel like, let's start with sex. 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:10.160 You know what, That's the perfect cliff to hang an 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:10.760 at break. 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:12.880 On short break, folks, we'll be right back. 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:22.559 And we're back Cossa, you asked about the gossip. I'm 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:25.439 actually gonna let the Queen of salaciousness feel this one herself. 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:28.280 There's been something that I have dubbed wagaged in where 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:31.840 most of the drivers dumped their long term girlfriends in 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:34.760 the same like four to six months span, and all 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:37.760 almost all of them got new girlfriends. And why that 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:41.200 matters is that there's been this enormous turnover in a 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:43.880 lot of the ways F one culture works, be it 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:47.160 people keeping track of what these various significant others are 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:50.320 wearing to the track or they you know, certain significant 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:52.920 others used to post photos and videos of the drivers 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:54.880 and obviously, now they're off the grid, some of those 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:58.319 ex partners are posting some kind of shady TikTok videos 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:00.760 and Instagram posts that are kind of fun and intriguing 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:03.240 to follow. But again, it's kind of a case of 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:07.040 when you follow that stuff, you do get a more interesting, 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:10.679 colorful picture of what's going on. But yeah, Waggageddon is 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:12.040 my big one. 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:15.120 Wagga geddon All right, give us the juice who broke 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:15.600 up with him? 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:18.640 Okay, it all kicked off, I would say, even last September, 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:21.840 Lando Norris put out this weird statement about him and 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:24.640 his girlfriend Luisa breaking up, and then he deleted it 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:27.120 minutes later, so everyone's like, what is going on with this? 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:28.839 But they broke up and she dealt with a ton 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:31.440 of cyber bullying just for being Lando Norris's girlfriend, not 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:35.040 for any particular reason. You then had charl and his 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:39.120 then girlfriend Charlotte break up and put out identical Instagram 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:43.080 statements you had here, ghastly sort of, he broke up 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:44.800 with a different girl. Rest of on Ocan broke up 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:47.280 with his girlfriend Elena Carlos, who was with his girlfriend 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:50.440 Lisa for like six seven years. They broke up and 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:52.040 he got a new girlfriend if you want drama with 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:56.079 in drama, Carlos signs his new girlfriend Rebecca Donaldson. I 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:58.320 want to say she's a Scottish model. Her big claim 0:12:58.320 --> 0:12:59.760 to fame or one of her other ones is that 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:04.360 she dated Scott Disick aka Courtney Kardashians X, whom she 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:06.600 has three kids with, for a short period of time. 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:10.840 And Rebecca Donaldson went to the Kardashian Hulu show premiere 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:12.800 and that was like a mini plot point, was like, 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:16.480 who's this mysterious woman that Scott Dissick brought to our premiere? 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:20.600 And it was Rebecca Donaldson, Carlo's lines girlfriend. The layers 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:22.920 the Kardashian. All roads lead to the Kardashians, is what 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:27.120 we're learning from this, from this experience is so the 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:30.199 Kardashians have infiltrated f one inadvertently. 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:33.800 The way my brain works, I get so overwhelmed by 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:35.959 the amount of rumors coming out that I just kind 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:38.280 of block them all out. Which is why I love 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:40.959 things like Well Lily's newsletter because she tells me exactly 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:42.680 just the things that I need to know in that space. 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:44.560 It exactly great read. 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:46.760 I mean, I don't know what the hell's going on 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:48.080 and I'm like, oh, this is interesting. 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:50.319 You go, I get the load down. So she's she's 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:52.400 you know, she's the queen when it comes to actually 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:55.079 not just giving us the rumors, but telling us how 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:56.559 it fits into the board a spectrum. 0:13:56.600 --> 0:13:58.880 Can I give you a little, a little insight into 0:13:58.920 --> 0:13:59.440 my brain? 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:01.040 Yes, I do. 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:03.440 Like when I'm watching a sport and they cut to 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:07.680 the section of wives and girlfriends, why because I like 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:09.360 seeing how beautiful these women are. 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:10.360 You know, that's it? 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:13.679 Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's it. I told you it 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:16.319 was okay. No, I mean it's always well, no, there's 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:17.840 a lot of reasons. But of course it's fun to 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:20.440 just see the section of beautiful women. But I always 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:23.160 feel like there's tension between them too. Yes, yeah, I 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:25.120 love that part. Like at a soccer team when they 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:26.760 cut to the section and it's like, why didn't you 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:27.200 pass them? 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:29.400 That's not a trope of history. We love to pay 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:30.480 women against each other. 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:33.920 Of course, and I'm an advocate of history. 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:34.120 Yeah. 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:35.920 Or Michael just canceled. 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:39.800 Himself once again, Michael Costa cancels himself. But I mean, 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:43.000 you know what, I've also learned that if i'm thinking it, 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:46.360 I'm not the only one. So let's talk, Tony. 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:46.760 Let's talk. 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:50.400 We are fans of these drivers, We are curious about 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:54.120 their lives. That comes with who they're married to, who 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:57.200 they're dating. But I also don't think it's necessarily fair 0:14:57.360 --> 0:15:00.800 that they like get put under this microscope when they're 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:05.120 not necessarily posting about their boyfriend. So to me, the 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:07.960 girlfriends that I feel like really resonate with myself, and 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:11.160 I think Zoe would feel similarly is Carmen, who's dating 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:15.600 George Russell, and Lily, who is dating Alex Albert. 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:17.960 She's brilliant, by the way, she's a pro golfer too. 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:21.440 Oh okay, much different speeds, very different speeds. 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:24.600 They're a duo that clearly don't like social but I'm 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:25.560 very good at. 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:27.200 It's always annoying when somebody's good at it. 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:33.280 Two, she did the BTS footage of him trying to 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:37.520 do a campaign on TikTok for Seavey moisturizing, and it 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:40.840 was such a smart move to showcase how idiotic we 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:43.920 all look trying to do these TikTok videos, and she's 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:50.600 just in hysterics, and you're just like, that's actually cute, 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:52.680 because we shouldn't take all of this to your point, 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:54.880 this is sports. We should always take everything seriously. 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:58.480 I also find it interesting the wives and girlfriends that 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:03.040 have taken their platform and used it to then pursue 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:06.560 other things outside of being the partner of a Formula 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:11.040 One driver, whether that's brand deals, working with sponsors. People 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:13.520 have different feelings on that. I think some people feel 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:17.360 like you shouldn't use your relationship to make money. Other 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:19.760 people think why not you have this great platform. I 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:21.280 don't really have an opinion on that. I just think 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:23.320 it's an interesting thing to navigate. 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:24.840 Do you know who Morgan Riddle is? 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:28.960 So? Morgan Riddle is dating Taylor Fritz. Taylor Fritz is 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:32.760 a very well known and famous American tennis player. There's 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:36.160 also a show now on Netflix called Breakpoint. Breakpoint is 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:37.640 to Tennis, What drive to survive? 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:41.840 Everyone's trying and they're all going to fail. That can 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:45.760 be a whole other season on that. But what's interesting 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:48.280 is this whole piece was about her role in tennis, 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:51.880 not from within the bubble, not pretending to be a 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:55.440 tennis expert, but from actually the position where she sits, 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:59.320 and she is a lifestyle and fashion influencer and Wimbledon 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:03.080 did some think really incredible, which is Wimbledon decided, Hey, 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:06.960 you are good looking, you're great with fashion, you're great 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:10.000 on camera. You've got your whole audience, and we are 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:12.280 noticing that. Little girls and little boys come up to 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:14.439 you and go, you're the reason I'm in tennis. And 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:17.400 she doesn't pretend she's like I barely interested in matches. 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:19.679 I look at them because my boyfriend is playing, and 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:21.480 so that got me interested. So I'm not going to 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:25.040 pretend I'm something I'm not. But I do love getting 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:27.520 ready for a tennis match. I do love putting time 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:29.560 and effort into the outfits I pick. And when she 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:31.119 was at Wimbledon, she did that as well, and so 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:33.399 Wimbledon what they did was give her a fashion segment. 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:36.560 Tell me what inspired Alvidz say, mine's a combination of 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:39.840 Preppe modern and I think the outfit was also inspired 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:40.640 by Sean Mendes. 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:46.000 Yeah, che genius call threads. It's on YouTube. It's actually 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:47.200 pretty popular. 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:51.240 And there I should jump in quickly. No sport cuts 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:54.639 to the wife or player box more than tennis. 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:55.520 I did not know that. 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:59.680 I mean almost after every point constantly. 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:02.800 Said in there, you pointed to your people up there 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:06.760 and said, I told you, what did you tell them? 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:10.520 My girlfriend thought I was too too confident going on. 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:13.600 She was getting an incredible and just always does the 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:17.879 box always does an incredible amount of camera close. 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:21.920