1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Tension increases as the seven top knitters in the land 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: prepare their needles for combat. 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 2: So, Tony, Michael, do you know what I heard? 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 3: I have a feeling you're about to tell me. 5 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: On this final judgment day Speed and Accuracy in following 6 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: eight separate patents. 7 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 4: I have an on good authority that Max Verstaffan is 8 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 4: planning on retiring and devoting all of his time to 9 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 4: competitive crochet. 10 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: New South Wales wool Knit Off champion Missus Green has 11 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: been knitting for over fifty years. 12 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 3: Interesting this year. 13 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: A surprising new Challenger X racing driver from Holland and 14 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: mister Max fust Tarpan had an early start at the 15 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: age of four. 16 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 3: And you know I'm going to ask this, but who 17 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 3: are your sources? 18 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 2: I can't. I can't tell you that. 19 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 4: Let's just say it gossip. 20 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 5: It's it. 21 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 4: Go for My Heart podcast one on one Studios and 22 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 4: Sports Illustrated Studios. 23 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 3: This is choosing sides one. Wow. Wow, Michael. Yes, I 24 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 3: have a question for you. 25 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 2: I thought questions were my job and your job was 26 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 2: the answers. 27 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 3: We're shaking it up. Do you think we can have 28 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 3: sports and athletes without that entertainment factor like our sports 29 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 3: just a form of entertainment or should sports be put 30 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 3: in their own category of human activity? Can we separate 31 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 3: the two. 32 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 4: I love that question because that question immediately identifies that 33 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 4: sport is entertainment. You know, lots of times I think 34 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 4: fans forget that sport is entertainment. First, we're selling tickets, yep, 35 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 4: so that is very important, but should have been a 36 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 4: separate category. 37 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: I like this idea. I like this idea. 38 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 3: It's one I think that's come up a lot, especially 39 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 3: in the Formula one world, where for some reason people 40 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 3: seem to think that if one used to be just 41 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 3: about sports, and I think they forget the genesis of Formula. 42 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 2: One, but I mean just about sports, not about entertainment. 43 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 3: It was which you know, again it was started with amateurs, 44 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 3: so they were hardly the greatest, biggest athletes. I think 45 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 3: the average age on the grid, you know, back in 46 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 3: the fifties was probably forty or fifty year. 47 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: Old, right. 48 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 3: But it came out because there was a great piece 49 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 3: that was written by It is of a blackstock where 50 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 3: she highlights the fact and I think you'll appreciate this, 51 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 3: but she highlights the fact that the Formula one owners 52 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 3: I Liberty Media are currently stuck marketing a sport when 53 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 3: they were actually sold entertainment. 54 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 4: That is a big difference. You know, those are two 55 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 4: very different things. Look, if you're asking me, which sounds 56 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 4: like you are, I don't need a T shirt, gun, 57 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 4: I don't need a dance squad. I mean, the halftime 58 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 4: show is fine, but I'm here to watch the event. 59 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 4: I'm here to watch the sport. 60 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 3: Well, I'm actually here to convince you otherwise. 61 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 2: Of course you are, Tony, that you are. 62 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 3: In fact missing out on a huge element of what 63 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 3: if one actually has to offer. And to help me out, 64 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 3: we have assembled an amazing team of super fans and experts. 65 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 4: You know, Tony never just gives you her opinion. She 66 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 4: gives your opinion, and then she hassembles all this evidence 67 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 4: to sway you. 68 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 3: I assemble the A team. 69 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 6: So I am Rashi. Everyone in the entire world probably 70 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 6: knows me as my Instagram page name, which is amazing. Lou. 71 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 7: So I'm Hannah. I am one half of the Fan 72 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 7: Behavior podcast. 73 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 2: I am Zoe. 74 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 5: I am the other half of fan Behavior, and our 75 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 5: goal is really just to bring people together, fangirls, fanboys, really, 76 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 5: whoever you are. 77 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 3: And this next voice you might find familiar. 78 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 8: I'm considering getting two fish in twenty twenty four, and 79 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 8: I'm gonna name them Lewis Hamilfin and then Adrian Bowie. 80 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 4: That's a voice. I recognize those puns. I recognize those puns. 81 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 8: Lilly Herman, writer editor by trade. In the context of 82 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 8: F one, I did co host season one of Choosing 83 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 8: Sides F one, so I am very familiar with everyone. 84 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 8: I'm here to be a menace to Yohai and then 85 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 8: elsewhere in F one. I am the creator of the 86 00:03:58,520 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 8: F one culture newsletter Engine Fail. 87 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 3: What would you say fans are missing out if they 88 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 3: only watch the race, Like, do you actually understand formula one? 89 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 3: If you do is tune in for the race and 90 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 3: then tune out. 91 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 8: It's almost like going from a two D looking at 92 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 8: a two D shape like a circle into a three 93 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 8: D sphere right, or like a square into a cube. 94 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 8: Like you just see more dimensions, more layers, more pandemonium, 95 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 8: more tension, more stakes. They all exist the more you 96 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 8: know about the sport. 97 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 5: I love a story. 98 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 2: I love like watching a story. 99 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 7: I feel much more invested in something if I understand 100 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 7: how we got here and where it came from. 101 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 8: Look at Alpine for instance. Obviously you might say, ah, 102 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 8: a French team with two French drivers. That seems a 103 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 8: little emotional and dramatic to begin with. But then if 104 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 8: you know that Pierre Gasley and Estabonocon have had this 105 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 8: weird tension friction rivalry going back to their teen years 106 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 8: and they had some massive falling out after having been 107 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 8: friends for many years, that adds a layer. And then 108 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 8: if you had the extra layer of Ralph Schumacher going 109 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 8: on a you know, a network program in a different 110 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 8: country and claiming it's it's because one stole the other's 111 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 8: girlfriend when they were fourteen, Like that's nuts, That is 112 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 8: absolutely hilarious. 113 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 9: Yeah, wait, what the fuck you what it's second anyway, Yeah, 114 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 9: we're just consident off. 115 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 4: Please serious, you're saying serious? 116 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 3: I thought. 117 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 8: But then you yeah, you watch them on the racetrack 118 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 8: and of course you know there's times where like Pierre 119 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 8: does something to Esteban Estmon makes a comment over the radio. 120 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 8: You better understand it's not just about oh, it's my teammate, 121 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 8: my competitor, you know that dynamic, it's these guys have 122 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 8: a lifetime of history together, had very different upbringings have 123 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 8: been competing together since they were literal children, and now 124 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 8: they're on the same team, and they both everyone speaks French. 125 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 8: They're just cursing each other out and in multiple languages, 126 00:05:58,400 --> 00:05:59,679 Speaker 8: and I'm having. 127 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 4: I probably have older you know, Okay, boomer beliefs on 128 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 4: this topic. Okay, I think talent and performance should be 129 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 4: the top deciding factory. But I'm a comedian who values 130 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 4: and prides myself on being funny, but have struggled with 131 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 4: the marketing, you know, in my own opinion, struggle with 132 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 4: the marketing side of this shit. And then you see 133 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 4: younger comics who are so good at marketing, and I'm like, 134 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 4: they can't even tell a joke. So I'm coming at 135 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 4: it from like Grandpa's mad. Yeah, you know, so I'm 136 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 4: very fully aware of that. I do think Lebron James 137 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 4: Michael Jordan was fully aware of the marketing but was 138 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 4: such a complicated person. Lebron James came on the scene 139 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 4: and it's just as like, holy shit, he's not only 140 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 4: the best player, but also is the best marketing. Is 141 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 4: also fully branded at an early age. So what was 142 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 4: your question? 143 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 3: My question was, do you are you in this day 144 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 3: and age, and you kind of answered it. My question was, 145 00:06:58,440 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 3: in this day and age, do you think it is 146 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 3: fair that we expect these athletes to be top of 147 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:07,679 Speaker 3: their game, the best in their industry, also incredibly marketable presence, 148 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 3: have a great presence on social media, be willing to 149 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 3: do all the press conferences, be willing to do the 150 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 3: late night show. I'm curious for both of you if 151 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 3: there was a particular moment where you're like, oh, this 152 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 3: is it. 153 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 5: I'm hooked the second that Daniel Ricardo came on screen. Honestly, 154 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 5: same for me. I often lovingly for too. Daniel as 155 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 5: the gateway drug. I think there's so many people, countless 156 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 5: people that really have Danie Ricardo to credit for why 157 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 5: they are f one fans or or why they initially 158 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 5: became Formula one fans. 159 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 4: So yeah, it was. 160 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 5: It was right away when he said that he was 161 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 5: Danie Riccardo and he was a car mechanic. 162 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 4: I was invested. Forgive my ignorance, has he won anything? 163 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 4: But I mean, I like the guy I'm Adam the 164 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 4: Daily Show very not no, but I just like where 165 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 4: it's not cool to me when the marketing is so 166 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 4: far ahead of the performance. 167 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 3: But maybe that has helped him stay in the game 168 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 3: more so than anyone else. 169 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 4: I was going to say the same thing, Yeah, it's smart, 170 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 4: stay alive. 171 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 5: I will never not root for him because he was 172 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 5: the first person that I connected with, and in some 173 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 5: weird way, I feel like I owe him, like he 174 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 5: is the reason that I'm here doing this, and so 175 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 5: I feel like he deserves that from me because I 176 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 5: almost it's almost like a thank you to him, like 177 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 5: I will never not cheer for you because I'm so 178 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 5: grateful to you for getting me in this position, which 179 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 5: is what I would tell him if I ever met him. 180 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 4: I think they're always gonna go for this. The brands 181 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 4: behind the drivers are always going to try to get 182 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 4: this because this is the sweet spot with the most 183 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 4: amount of money and the most amount of But they 184 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 4: all can't do it. And they all cannot do it. 185 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 4: It's gonna backfire, it's gonna be problematic at times, and 186 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 4: it's gonna feel clunky, and thanks to money and fame, 187 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 4: I felt I was entitled. Look at Tiger woods Man. 188 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 4: You know, they created this, he had the talent, they 189 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 4: created the story, everything was perfect, and it was a 190 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 4: fucking disaster. I mean now, it's a disaster. The guy 191 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 4: is like a pussy hound who can't stay off pain 192 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 4: meds and crash his car every six months. 193 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: You can quote me on all that. 194 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 4: It's insane. It's like, is that really good for golf? 195 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 4: I brought this shame on myself. I hurt my wife, 196 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 4: my kids. 197 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 3: We like putting people on pedestals so hard and then 198 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 3: bring yeah, yeah, that we can't. But I think so 199 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 3: here's the thing. I know you're not the biggest fan 200 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 3: of Maxistappen, but I do think when we have this conversation, 201 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 3: Maxistappen is a perfect example of someone who has sheer talent, dedication, 202 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 3: shows up, does the job, does not care about anything else. 203 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:30,599 Speaker 8: Everyone will agree. I think his fans would agree, and 204 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 8: that's what they love about him. He's there to race, 205 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 8: he's rough around the edges. When he's done racing, he's 206 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 8: probably gonna jet off and we're not gonna hear fro 207 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 8: him that often until he shows up to race for 208 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 8: something else or what have you. 209 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 3: But that also means that the media narrative is not 210 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 3: in his control, in his hands, and he's been painted 211 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 3: as a villain. 212 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 2: I love that he doesn't do that bullshit. 213 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 4: I love that he wins the races and says that's 214 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 4: what's This is how I'm communicating to you. 215 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 3: There you go. 216 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 4: That's a Jimmy Conners vibe in tennis. Oh you think 217 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 4: I'm an asshole? I just won the tournament. 218 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 2: It's over. It does I don't even have to do 219 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: an interview. I can do what I want. 220 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 4: I love that. And if you know when that works. 221 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 3: When you win, When he. 222 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 4: Starts placing six over and over again, the brands, the 223 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 4: sponsors are going to say, like, you gotta do this podcast, 224 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 4: you gotta do the thing you know? 225 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 3: So would I don't stick around? 226 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 2: Oh, they don't stick around. Yeah, and that's okay too. 227 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 5: I think he is an incredible driver, but I don't 228 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 5: have that level of Oh I feel a kinship or 229 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 5: a connection or I'm searching for your content. 230 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 3: I want to. 231 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 5: See you off the track. Whereas a driver like Yuki Sonoda. 232 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 4: Yuki, how many eight year olds would it take to 233 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 4: beat you in a fight? 234 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 10: Oh, eight years is quite good, age seven. 235 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 5: I could watch Yuki content all day, every day. Give 236 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 5: me more of it. 237 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 10: You could only use one curse word for the rest 238 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 10: of your life. 239 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 4: What would it be? 240 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 10: Fuck. 241 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 5: Everyone loves him, and I think a lot of it 242 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 5: has to do with the fact that he's so likable 243 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 5: off track, and I think anyone that says they don't 244 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 5: allow the driver off track personality to influence how they 245 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 5: feel about the driver on track, I think is lying 246 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 5: because how can you not? 247 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 2: What are the rumors in gossip F one? Right now? 248 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 3: Where do you even start? 249 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 2: I feel like, let's start with sex. 250 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 3: You know what, That's the perfect cliff to hang an 251 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 3: at break. 252 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 2: On short break, folks, we'll be right back. 253 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 3: And we're back Cossa, you asked about the gossip. I'm 254 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 3: actually gonna let the Queen of salaciousness feel this one herself. 255 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 8: There's been something that I have dubbed wagaged in where 256 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 8: most of the drivers dumped their long term girlfriends in 257 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 8: the same like four to six months span, and all 258 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 8: almost all of them got new girlfriends. And why that 259 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 8: matters is that there's been this enormous turnover in a 260 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 8: lot of the ways F one culture works, be it 261 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 8: people keeping track of what these various significant others are 262 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 8: wearing to the track or they you know, certain significant 263 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 8: others used to post photos and videos of the drivers 264 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 8: and obviously, now they're off the grid, some of those 265 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 8: ex partners are posting some kind of shady TikTok videos 266 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 8: and Instagram posts that are kind of fun and intriguing 267 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 8: to follow. But again, it's kind of a case of 268 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 8: when you follow that stuff, you do get a more interesting, 269 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 8: colorful picture of what's going on. But yeah, Waggageddon is 270 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 8: my big one. 271 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 4: Wagga geddon All right, give us the juice who broke 272 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 4: up with him? 273 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 8: Okay, it all kicked off, I would say, even last September, 274 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 8: Lando Norris put out this weird statement about him and 275 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 8: his girlfriend Luisa breaking up, and then he deleted it 276 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 8: minutes later, so everyone's like, what is going on with this? 277 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 8: But they broke up and she dealt with a ton 278 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 8: of cyber bullying just for being Lando Norris's girlfriend, not 279 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 8: for any particular reason. You then had charl and his 280 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 8: then girlfriend Charlotte break up and put out identical Instagram 281 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 8: statements you had here, ghastly sort of, he broke up 282 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 8: with a different girl. Rest of on Ocan broke up 283 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 8: with his girlfriend Elena Carlos, who was with his girlfriend 284 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 8: Lisa for like six seven years. They broke up and 285 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 8: he got a new girlfriend if you want drama with 286 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 8: in drama, Carlos signs his new girlfriend Rebecca Donaldson. I 287 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 8: want to say she's a Scottish model. Her big claim 288 00:12:58,320 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 8: to fame or one of her other ones is that 289 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 8: she dated Scott Disick aka Courtney Kardashians X, whom she 290 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 8: has three kids with, for a short period of time. 291 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 8: And Rebecca Donaldson went to the Kardashian Hulu show premiere 292 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 8: and that was like a mini plot point, was like, 293 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 8: who's this mysterious woman that Scott Dissick brought to our premiere? 294 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 8: And it was Rebecca Donaldson, Carlo's lines girlfriend. The layers 295 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 8: the Kardashian. All roads lead to the Kardashians, is what 296 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 8: we're learning from this, from this experience is so the 297 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 8: Kardashians have infiltrated f one inadvertently. 298 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 3: The way my brain works, I get so overwhelmed by 299 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 3: the amount of rumors coming out that I just kind 300 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 3: of block them all out. Which is why I love 301 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 3: things like Well Lily's newsletter because she tells me exactly 302 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 3: just the things that I need to know in that space. 303 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 3: It exactly great read. 304 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know what the hell's going on 305 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 4: and I'm like, oh, this is interesting. 306 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 3: You go, I get the load down. So she's she's 307 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 3: you know, she's the queen when it comes to actually 308 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 3: not just giving us the rumors, but telling us how 309 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 3: it fits into the board a spectrum. 310 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 4: Can I give you a little, a little insight into 311 00:13:58,920 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 4: my brain? 312 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 2: Yes, I do. 313 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 4: Like when I'm watching a sport and they cut to 314 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 4: the section of wives and girlfriends, why because I like 315 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 4: seeing how beautiful these women are. 316 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 2: You know, that's it? 317 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's it. I told you it 318 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 4: was okay. No, I mean it's always well, no, there's 319 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 4: a lot of reasons. But of course it's fun to 320 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 4: just see the section of beautiful women. But I always 321 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 4: feel like there's tension between them too. Yes, yeah, I 322 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 4: love that part. Like at a soccer team when they 323 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 4: cut to the section and it's like, why didn't you 324 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 4: pass them? 325 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 3: That's not a trope of history. We love to pay 326 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 3: women against each other. 327 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 4: Of course, and I'm an advocate of history. 328 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 6: Yeah. 329 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 2: Or Michael just canceled. 330 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 4: Himself once again, Michael Costa cancels himself. But I mean, 331 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 4: you know what, I've also learned that if i'm thinking it, 332 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 4: I'm not the only one. So let's talk, Tony. 333 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 3: Let's talk. 334 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 7: We are fans of these drivers, We are curious about 335 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 7: their lives. That comes with who they're married to, who 336 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 7: they're dating. But I also don't think it's necessarily fair 337 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 7: that they like get put under this microscope when they're 338 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 7: not necessarily posting about their boyfriend. So to me, the 339 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 7: girlfriends that I feel like really resonate with myself, and 340 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 7: I think Zoe would feel similarly is Carmen, who's dating 341 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 7: George Russell, and Lily, who is dating Alex Albert. 342 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 3: She's brilliant, by the way, she's a pro golfer too. 343 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 4: Oh okay, much different speeds, very different speeds. 344 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 3: They're a duo that clearly don't like social but I'm 345 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 3: very good at. 346 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 4: It's always annoying when somebody's good at it. 347 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 3: Two, she did the BTS footage of him trying to 348 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 3: do a campaign on TikTok for Seavey moisturizing, and it 349 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 3: was such a smart move to showcase how idiotic we 350 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 3: all look trying to do these TikTok videos, and she's 351 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 3: just in hysterics, and you're just like, that's actually cute, 352 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 3: because we shouldn't take all of this to your point, 353 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 3: this is sports. We should always take everything seriously. 354 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 5: I also find it interesting the wives and girlfriends that 355 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 5: have taken their platform and used it to then pursue 356 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 5: other things outside of being the partner of a Formula 357 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 5: One driver, whether that's brand deals, working with sponsors. People 358 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 5: have different feelings on that. I think some people feel 359 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 5: like you shouldn't use your relationship to make money. Other 360 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 5: people think why not you have this great platform. I 361 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 5: don't really have an opinion on that. I just think 362 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 5: it's an interesting thing to navigate. 363 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 3: Do you know who Morgan Riddle is? 364 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 11: So? Morgan Riddle is dating Taylor Fritz. Taylor Fritz is 365 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 11: a very well known and famous American tennis player. There's 366 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 11: also a show now on Netflix called Breakpoint. Breakpoint is 367 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 11: to Tennis, What drive to survive? 368 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 3: Everyone's trying and they're all going to fail. That can 369 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 3: be a whole other season on that. But what's interesting 370 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 3: is this whole piece was about her role in tennis, 371 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 3: not from within the bubble, not pretending to be a 372 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 3: tennis expert, but from actually the position where she sits, 373 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 3: and she is a lifestyle and fashion influencer and Wimbledon 374 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 3: did some think really incredible, which is Wimbledon decided, Hey, 375 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 3: you are good looking, you're great with fashion, you're great 376 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 3: on camera. You've got your whole audience, and we are 377 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 3: noticing that. Little girls and little boys come up to 378 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 3: you and go, you're the reason I'm in tennis. And 379 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 3: she doesn't pretend she's like I barely interested in matches. 380 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 3: I look at them because my boyfriend is playing, and 381 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 3: so that got me interested. So I'm not going to 382 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 3: pretend I'm something I'm not. But I do love getting 383 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 3: ready for a tennis match. I do love putting time 384 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 3: and effort into the outfits I pick. And when she 385 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 3: was at Wimbledon, she did that as well, and so 386 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 3: Wimbledon what they did was give her a fashion segment. 387 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 10: Tell me what inspired Alvidz say, mine's a combination of 388 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 10: Preppe modern and I think the outfit was also inspired 389 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 10: by Sean Mendes. 390 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, che genius call threads. It's on YouTube. It's actually 391 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 3: pretty popular. 392 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 4: And there I should jump in quickly. No sport cuts 393 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 4: to the wife or player box more than tennis. 394 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 3: I did not know that. 395 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 2: I mean almost after every point constantly. 396 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 12: Said in there, you pointed to your people up there 397 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 12: and said, I told you, what did you tell them? 398 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 4: My girlfriend thought I was too too confident going on. 399 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 4: She was getting an incredible and just always does the 400 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 4: box always does an incredible amount of camera close. 401 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 12: Organ up there said if Tyler wins again, I'm gonna 402 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,719 Speaker 12: eat a jar of veggiemight. 403 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 5: On Instagram Live. 404 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 3: The reason I had a moment of Oh, we're in 405 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 3: trouble in Formula one when Wimbledon, one of the most 406 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 3: archaic sports out there, is beating us in terms of 407 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 3: getting creative and utilizing the wives and the girlfriends and 408 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 3: treating them like ambassadors with an actual role in this 409 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 3: industry to actually tap into brand new audiences. And that's 410 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 3: what I mean where it's like I might not follow 411 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 3: the gossip, but these women, the way they dress, what 412 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 3: they stand for, the work that they do, are bringing 413 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 3: in a whole new court of fans of the sport 414 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 3: that might not just be in for it for the 415 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 3: tech or the speed, but they're just like, I love 416 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 3: what this sport represents. I love that it's a traveling circus. 417 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 3: I love the fashion, I love the glitz, I love 418 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,199 Speaker 3: the glamor, and is nothing wrong about that? So anyway, 419 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 3: I had this moment of oh crap, we're in trouble 420 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 3: when tennis is beating us to the punch. 421 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 7: Here, I's love for five hours last night, which like, 422 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 7: if you guys know my sleep, I'm like a ten 423 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 7: to twelve hour kind of gal. 424 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 4: To your point about Morgan, yeah, I might get in 425 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 4: trouble for saying this. It's probably stupid for me to 426 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 4: say it that. 427 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 10: Maybe don't Tony, Tony, Tony. 428 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 4: My favorite part of Taylor Fritz's tennis is Morgan. You know, 429 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 4: I just he bums me out so many times with attitude, effort, result. Yeah, 430 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 4: and she's this breath of fresh air in his tennis world. 431 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 3: The thing that I love about her is she gives 432 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 3: the middle finger to anyone who's like, why the hell 433 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 3: is she even there? She doesn't care about ten and 434 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 3: she's like, bring it on. This is great for social clouts. 435 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna lie to you guys. 436 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 7: I do take melatonin drug myself with Zequel. 437 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 5: I'll take some gummies. 438 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 11: Knock myself out. 439 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 10: I just wanted to make one sort of introduce, one 440 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 10: sort of thought or claim here. Every form of entertainment 441 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 10: needs to be something else other than just entertainment. And 442 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 10: showing people at a good time. It has to include 443 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 10: some kind of other function for it to be a value. Example, comedy, 444 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 10: I think comedy is basically a form of popularizing philosophy 445 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 10: and how you think about life. Also, it helps people 446 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 10: talk and think about very difficult issues and break taboos. 447 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 10: And I think sports role in society and f one 448 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 10: as part of that, is in a way to subdue 449 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 10: a lot of our inherent violence, both as individuals and society. 450 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 2: This is the smartest thing you ever said to me. 451 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 10: Yeah, and just sort of like create a place where 452 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 10: you can be incredibly competitive and destructive and violent and 453 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 10: then turn around and just shake hands and walk home 454 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 10: as friends. 455 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 4: This is why commentators don't do this anymore, thankfully. But 456 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 4: there used to be so much, so much war terminology 457 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 4: used in football too, you know, get the troops together 458 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 4: on the trenches. And this is very common because it 459 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 4: does tie into this life or death feeling. But the 460 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 4: reason I hate when they do that is it's like, 461 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 4: this isn't real stakes, this is Goofy's are kidding right now. 462 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 4: But I like this, and I like analyzing what each 463 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 4: sport really is providing for us on a much deeper 464 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 4: level interesting. 465 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 2: The following is a public service announcement joke. 466 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 8: One you publicly single again, I mightna say keep saying 467 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 8: publicly single, because you know, we don't know what there's 468 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 8: certain shanigans I don't need to know about how your 469 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 8: body is taken and Ricardo taken. You can see not 470 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 8: a publicly single mentioned a girlfriend on a live stream 471 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 8: but like a year ago and has never brought her 472 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 8: up again, so no one really knows. Fernando Alonso in 473 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 8: an odd territory where he's been linked to another F 474 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 8: one journalist, which is would be his second F one 475 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 8: journalist in a row that he would be dating. Strolls taken, 476 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 8: Charlotte Cross Are taken, Kevin and Nico were, Mary Rando 477 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 8: Norris another murky one where there's endless conspiracies about if 478 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 8: Lando is dating his ex hooking up with random people. 479 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 8: He's a guy in his mid twenty sewing his seeds 480 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 8: and as long as it's consensual and safe, then none 481 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 8: of my business, that's right, right. Lewis Hamilton publicly single 482 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 8: and Logan Sergeant publicly single, though again you kind of 483 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 8: hear rumors here and there, and he does follow a 484 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 8: lot of Instagram models and bikini models on social media. 485 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 4: So end of public service announcement. 486 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 3: And another thing that found seemed to read enough is 487 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 3: when the drivers share that hobbies. 488 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was wondering, what are some of their hobbies? 489 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 4: Do they have a life outside of just racing? 490 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? Lando picked up photography. 491 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 7: I guess that was fun for us, and so then 492 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 7: Daniel picked up photography because he doesn't like being left out. 493 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 7: Then it became everyone needs a jpeg account and it's like, no, 494 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 7: they don't, No, they don't. It's fine, they don't all 495 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 7: need to go get cameras and like figure it out. 496 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 7: I think Lando tried to be a DJ for a 497 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 7: minute or two Saturday. 498 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: My DJ career has come to an end already. 499 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 7: That was fun. 500 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 4: London. 501 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 11: What's up about your license? 502 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 4: By the way, why are you a sea license? 503 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 7: And I don't think max Ley's the simulator, so I'm 504 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 7: not really sure what else he does. 505 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 3: Mike, I almost massively fucked up the last gain I 506 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 3: break so late. Well, we have some drivers who like 507 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 3: to flex their musical talent. 508 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: You have. 509 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 8: Charlotte Clear has put out some classical piano compositions that 510 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 8: are very moody. Ahead a friend who's a classical piano 511 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 8: officionado listen to them, and his response, his very southern response, 512 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 8: because he's from the South, was like, you know what, 513 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 8: he loves what he's doing and that's good for him. 514 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 8: So there was no compliment in that in that review. 515 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 3: And then of course we have so Lewis Hamilton, who 516 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 3: also dabbles the music when he's not jumping out for pain. 517 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 4: That's cool. It's quite vulnerable for someone at this level 518 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 4: to like share another hobby. It's like when John Mayer 519 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 4: tried to do stand up comedy and everybody's like hating 520 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 4: on him immediately, and I'm like, what, it's a famous 521 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 4: person not allowed to try something different, you know. I 522 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 4: kind of like that they have the courage to do that. 523 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 4: That's just really cool. 524 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 2: This is very likable. 525 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 3: We love telling people to stay in their legs. We 526 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 3: love telling politicians to not get involved in tech. We 527 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 3: love telling comedians to stay out music. We love telling 528 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 3: athletes to shut up in general. We love telling women 529 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 3: to just shut up and not talk yeah, and get 530 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 3: back in the kitchen. My god, if I had a 531 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 3: penny for every time someone tell me that. 532 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 2: Oh God, and I apologize to you for that no do. 533 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 3: I mean, look, it's the reality in the boat. We love, 534 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 3: but it is fascinating that we love, love love telling 535 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 3: people to stay in their lanth. 536 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 2: I'm going to go deeper. 537 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 3: Tell me. 538 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 4: I think we just our brains need to create patterns, 539 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 4: and I think we just it's it's easier for us 540 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 4: to identify people with labels. You go in the kitchen, 541 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 4: you go about It's just like, it's so complicated. We 542 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 4: just need to put it like here, here and here. 543 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 4: But it's a constant battle not to do that. I 544 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 4: find myself doing it all the time. I don't want 545 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 4: people to do that to me, and then I do it. 546 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, we like patterns, We feel comfortable. Patterns, 547 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 3: don't scare up. 548 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 2: Patterns save our life for many reasons. 549 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, if two of my family members got eaten by 550 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 4: a saber tooth tiger, I'm not going to hang with 551 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 4: saber to tigers. Okay, And that's why I'm here because 552 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 4: I'm a biological, evolutionary scientific expert. Let's keep moving, yo, high. 553 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 4: I remember last season we talked a little bit about 554 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 4: the driver's sense of fashion or lack thereof anything new 555 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 4: in that arena. 556 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 6: I think fashion is a way how these personalities they 557 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 6: show who they are. Lewis as we know him, he's 558 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 6: such a strong personality. Now, I think one of the 559 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 6: major reasons why I support him is because of the 560 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 6: way how he shows up for himself. I think that's 561 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 6: why he has one of the biggest fan base, at 562 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 6: least in the current times. It's because he shows who 563 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 6: he is by wearing you know, all these clothes, my 564 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 6: collaborating with all these brands. That's how a lot of 565 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 6: fans are able to connect with him so rashly. 566 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 3: For example, runs an immensely popular Sir Lewis Hamilton fan 567 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 3: account that is devoted entirely to Sir Hamilton's wardrobe. Specifically, 568 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 3: she tracks down every single item of clothing he is 569 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 3: publicly seen wearing. 570 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 6: Wow, it was out of personal interest, like I wanted 571 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 6: to know what he's wearing. So that's why I just 572 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 6: casually started posting about it. And now it's it's become 573 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 6: such a huge thing, Like everyone wants to know the 574 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 6: socks he's wearing, the hearings he's wearing. 575 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 10: So is it a lot of like detective work You 576 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 10: have to sort of like find out who makes those songs? 577 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 6: Oh, yeah, oh yeah. I feel like I have to 578 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 6: search every corner of the internet. And it's such an 579 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 6: intense task during race weekends because I usually have like 580 00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 6: a million messages waiting for me on Twitter and on 581 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,360 Speaker 6: Instagram asking what he's wearing. As soon as he arrives, 582 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 6: people are asking me like what is he wearing? I'm like, 583 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 6: give me a break, Like, give me, give me five 584 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 6: minutes to breathe. At least let me see what he's wearing. 585 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 10: You're not getting a list from this. 586 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 6: I wish, I wish that would make my job so easy. 587 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 6: But what I would say is his stylist, Eric, he's 588 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 6: very very helpful, like he's a sweetheart. Uh, and whenever, 589 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 6: So whenever he's wearing something custom, right, I have to 590 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 6: ask him because if he's wearing custom is definitely not 591 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 6: available on the internet, and I cannot really you know, 592 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 6: take something as a reference to search for what he's wearing. Sometimes, 593 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 6: I mean, the outfits are just recognizable, right, like, Okay, 594 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 6: this is this is the brand he's wearing. Can I 595 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 6: just go back to his stylist to just cross check 596 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 6: and ask if what sharing. 597 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 3: You can recognize this? I wish hell not recognize like 598 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 3: I have no idea what that is. That is like 599 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 3: a red T shirt to me, I. 600 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 8: Think you have more drivers who are aware that that's 601 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 8: something that people pay attention to. I'd say one of 602 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 8: the biggest jumps we've seen has been George Russell really 603 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 8: leaning into his preppy British fashion thing. So Tommy Hill 604 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 8: Figure is a partner with Mercedes, but George has gone 605 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 8: beyond just that partnership of what he has to wear 606 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 8: for a race weekend by like contractual obligations with the team. 607 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 8: So he's now a global ambassador. Interestingly, his girlfriend Carmen 608 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 8: Monterra Munt also signed on as a global Tommy Hill 609 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 8: Figure ambassador. He grew at his hair. He's trying to 610 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 8: do kind of like a I likened it to like 611 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 8: Hugh Grant in the nineties Slash first season, Chandler bing 612 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 8: on Friends, you know, rip Matthew Perry, but that sort 613 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 8: of hair, that's like what George Russell is doing right now. 614 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 6: Definitely Joe, So he's definitely the other personality I would 615 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 6: love to you know, post about because I think he's 616 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 6: still in those early stages where he's showing what he is. 617 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 6: He's definitely not very active as Lewis, But then he 618 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 6: mentioned that he styles himself, so I'm pretty sure he's 619 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 6: you know, more hands on with when it comes to fashion. 620 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 3: But focusing on fashion is not only about recognizing and 621 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 3: calling out all those fancy, high end brands and designer outfits. 622 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 3: Sometimes what the drivers wear can actually hint at what's 623 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 3: going on with them emotionally. Nadie Herman, for example, has 624 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 3: been paying close attention to Charla Claire's trousers. 625 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 8: He does wear what I call his depression pants. He'll 626 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 8: show up in these really gaudy, awful pants, which does 627 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 8: add a layer to the intrigue of Charlott Clair is 628 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 8: that he'll show up sometimes in these fashion ensembles, if 629 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 8: we want to call them that, where it's like, man, 630 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 8: this guy is going through something. 631 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 3: Wait, Linny, depression pants. Are they a very specific type 632 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 3: of pants or is it a vibe? 633 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 8: It's a it's a category of pants. He has these 634 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 8: these these like he had those knitted white shorts when 635 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 8: when he wore them, I think everyone there was like 636 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 8: a collective scream that came through my phone on on Instagram, 637 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 8: everyone just yelling about these pants of the shorts. He 638 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 8: had these pair of this pair of like tied tied striped, 639 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 8: like like distressed blue and white pants that he wore 640 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 8: this season, and the second they came out, I was like, 641 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 8: I need to know what happened behind the scenes, because 642 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 8: this man is not doing well. And then sure enough, 643 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 8: it was not a good weekend for Charol for many reasons, 644 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 8: but the pants were definitely the main contributor to me. 645 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 4: You know, what Formula one drivers from a fashion standpoint 646 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 4: have going for them is that they're small time, so 647 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 4: they fit stew rack size. Yeah, exactly like I you know, 648 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 4: tall people. It always look like idiots and stuff. You know, 649 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 4: I put on a cardigan today and I said, you're 650 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 4: not allowed to go outside of the house in this. 651 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 3: You know, it's actually a great piece that came out 652 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 3: somewhere that said that not only did the drivers not 653 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 3: only are they skinny, but they have to stay the 654 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 3: exact same weight forout the whole year, which I never 655 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 3: thought about because I'm someone who's weight fluctorates about the 656 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 3: year each drivers have to stay on the exact same weight, I. 657 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 4: Would think that there's a potential for eating problems. 658 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, big time. There's actually stuffle Van Dorn has talked 659 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 8: about getting an eating disorder from Formula one and being 660 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 8: worried about his weight, and obviously there are kind of 661 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 8: weight limits and other stuff they have now try and 662 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 8: prevent that. But you've had a lot of questions around 663 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 8: different drivers over the years. I know there was a 664 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 8: little bit of controversy last year or the year before 665 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 8: when Dana Ricardo posted a what I Eat in a 666 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 8: day video or maybe his trainer posted it, and there 667 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 8: was a lot of Man, those are tiny portions for 668 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 8: like a professional athlete, you know. So yeah, it's a 669 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 8: constant issue, and it's one of those that f one 670 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 8: kind of sweeps under the rug or pretends isn't real. 671 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 8: On top of that, are our society in general, not 672 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 8: just American society or European society but everywhere really doesn't 673 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 8: know how to talk about male body image issues or 674 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 8: disordered eating or eating disorders in men. So it all 675 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 8: kind of feeds into that where things that women do 676 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 8: we sort of note a flag, but the second men 677 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 8: do it, they sort of rebrand it, they call it 678 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 8: biohacking or stuff like that, and society kind of sweeps 679 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 8: it under the rug. I mean, you know a lot 680 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 8: of these protein shake, businesses, soilent and all that stuff. 681 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 8: You know, there's a lot of questions about how much 682 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 8: of that is just kind of, you know, a general 683 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 8: supplemental thing, and how much of that could be contributing 684 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 8: to larger problems with how men view food and their parties. 685 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 3: These drivers get weight after every time they come off 686 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 3: the track. Yeah, like that would be my work. Imagine 687 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 3: if we both got weight. 688 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 4: I was gonna ask you, is Yo Hi weighing you? 689 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 4: Because he's been weighing me after every episode. It's like, 690 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 4: is this necessary? 691 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 3: We're giving you the real formula one experience. 692 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so fashion, sex, money. I mean it's got 693 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 4: to always be like contracts, Scott gossip and money. 694 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 3: The money and the contracts tie into whose contract is 695 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 3: coming to an end? Who are we looking at? Which again, 696 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 3: if we think about the start of this conversation comes 697 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 3: into play, like who's always top of mind? There's a 698 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 3: reason that people always like where's Daniel going? What's his 699 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,959 Speaker 3: because he's always out there as a marketing genius, always 700 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 3: top of mind? And he doesn't. 701 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 4: It goes hard on Daniel, but I stick by it. 702 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 4: But maybe, yeah, maybe it's a bit too hard on him. 703 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 9: Yeah. 704 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 3: But I think here's the other thing is he's put 705 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,239 Speaker 3: himself so high that there's only one place for him 706 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 3: to go, which is down and especially and people are 707 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 3: looking so, yeah, he's top of mind, but people are 708 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 3: also like, oh, he's only P seven, Oh he's only 709 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 3: P eight. Log let's talk about this. Why why do 710 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 3: we keep talking about him? 711 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 4: When I would watch Naimiel Sock and she'd be losing 712 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 4: in the second round and then they'd go to commercial 713 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 4: break and it'd be three different brands of her commercials, 714 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 4: and it would infuriate me because I would go, stop 715 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 4: with the not even her, your agent, your team, your coach, 716 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 4: tell her to stop with this other shit and focus 717 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 4: on this. This is just classic like couch fandom, you know, 718 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 4: because I don't really know when, but yeah, he has 719 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 4: put himself there. 720 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 721 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 8: Another perfect example for those who don't know. Logan Surgeon's 722 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 8: family very famous in Republican Florida politics. His uncle was 723 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 8: implicated in an aspect of the Trump impeachment, and his 724 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 8: family has been taking each other to court for a 725 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 8: decade and a half. His dad was convicted of bribing 726 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 8: foreign officials to help his like cement business or something 727 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 8: like that again not saying Logan did anything with it, 728 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 8: but like family baggage, and there's been questions about his 729 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 8: politics that have come up that I think Williams has 730 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 8: sort of bobbed and weaved around, and Logan himself has 731 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 8: sort of tried to separate himself. There was an Instagram 732 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 8: caption at one point that created a lot of controversy. Again, 733 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 8: all the documents I pulled were all publicly available, like 734 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 8: court documents and old Palm Beach post reports and all 735 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 8: this stuff. 736 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 3: That's why we love you, Lily, because it was publicly available, 737 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 3: but no one went to look at them. 738 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 8: But yeah, so I will say his dad and uncle 739 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,399 Speaker 8: had much to say about each other in the court 740 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 8: documents when they're talking about the bribery case. Like my god, 741 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 8: but yeah, I mean those court documents. Basically his uncle 742 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 8: tries to claim that Logan and his brother Dalton's motor 743 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 8: racing careers were funded by these like the bribery money. 744 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 8: That's essentially what his uncle alleges, I will say in 745 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 8: the documents, amongst many other things. For a man who 746 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 8: says no few words, his family has said plenty of words. 747 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 3: Okay, so Michael, we could go on for hours topic. 748 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 3: There are so many more scandals, interesting wives and girlfriends. 749 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 3: We haven't even covered bot Us as coffee side gig 750 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 3: nor his pageant for nudism. But I hope we did 751 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 3: get you a little taste of the witness of this topic. 752 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you have, and you know typically I 753 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 4: don't like a little taste so close to the word nudism. 754 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 3: To close us off, I do want to give the 755 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 3: last words to Hannah from the Fangirls podcast. 756 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 4: Seems fair. 757 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 5: I think being a fangirl is just having a deep 758 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 5: love of something. I think fangirls get a bad rap. 759 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 5: People don't give that the same credit or value. I 760 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 5: think if you're a sports fan, if you love let's 761 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,240 Speaker 5: say American football, and you're a man that wears another 762 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 5: man's jersey and you yell and scream and spend all 763 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 5: your money, that's very valid. That's considered normal. No one 764 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 5: bat deny. But if you're a girl that loves going 765 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 5: to concerts or going to Formula one races or whatever 766 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 5: it is, that's seen as you're crazy, you're insane, which. 767 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 3: I don't love. 768 00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 5: Obviously, that stereotype is really frustrating to deal with. But 769 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 5: I think it's the same thing. I think ultimately it's 770 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 5: the same thing. It's having deep passion for what you 771 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 5: enjoy and really caring about what you love and not 772 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 5: being ashamed to talk about it. And I think there's 773 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 5: often been shame associated with being a fangirl. But I 774 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 5: think the point of what we do and kind of 775 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,959 Speaker 5: what we hope other people that feel the way about 776 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 5: this sport that we do, is you should shout your 777 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 5: love from the rooftops and not be ashamed to say 778 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 5: how you feel. 779 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 3: I love that. So, Michael, final thoughts on the gossip 780 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 3: fun is this you? 781 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 4: Perhaps it's definitely not me, but it's an important part 782 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 4: of all sport to keep us all nibbling at the 783 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 4: sport in these kind of quiet times when there's not 784 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 4: a race to talk about. 785 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 2: I do feel like I need to come clean here. 786 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 4: That rumor that I told you about Max, Yeah. 787 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 2: I made that up. 788 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 4: I know. I guess you could call it wishful thinking, 789 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 4: but I was just trying to manifes my thoughts onto 790 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 4: the world. 791 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 3: How's that working for you? 792 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 2: Fifty to fifty, Yeah, fifty to fifty. 793 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 3: I like that for you. 794 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 4: Do you believe that. 795 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 10: You believe in in like a thought creates reality man 796 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 10: subscribing one. 797 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 4: I really believe in positive mental outlook and that's going 798 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 4: to be my answer. And you can interpret that any 799 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,839 Speaker 4: way you want to take it as a no. I 800 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 4: just don't know if you can manifest something. But but yeah. 801 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 10: I'm going to try to manifest the credits. 802 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 2: Okay, well, I'm going to quickly tell you what I 803 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,240 Speaker 2: have in my office that's very different. 804 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to manifest the longer edit. What I 805 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,760 Speaker 4: have is it says life is ten percent, what happens 806 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 4: to you in ninety percent? 807 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 2: How you react to it? 808 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 4: Now, let's manifest some fucking credits. 809 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 10: This has been Choosing Signs F one, a production of 810 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 10: Sports Illustrated Studios, iHeart podcast and one oh one Studio Podcasts. 811 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 10: The show is hosted by Michael Costa and Tony Cowan Brown. 812 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 10: This episode was edited, scored, and sound designed by Senior 813 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 10: producer Jojai may Thaddle. 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Let's go. 826 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 3: Now, we're getting into the meatfone cars on doubted be 827 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 3: incredibly fast machines, but they can only go fasten the 828 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 3: hands of extremely capable and talented drivers, of whom they're 829 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 3: only a handful of the entire world. So next week 830 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 3: we're going to focus on the drivers. We're going to 831 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 3: try and understand what specific talents are needed to be 832 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 3: a Formula one racer, and we're definitely, absolutely certainly going 833 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 3: to settle once and for all who is the goat 834 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 3: of Formula One. 835 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 2: Okay, bit ready, I'm ready. Let's do the speed. Won't 836 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,839 Speaker 2: turn back and we won't go around, and we won't slow. 837 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:06,799 Speaker 2: I can't believe we haven't done speed yet. 838 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 3: Yep. 839 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 5: H