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Speaker 3: I think at this point, Tommy, if you're gonna vote
Speaker 3: for Trump, you're gonna vote for Trump. If you're gonna
Speaker 3: vote for Biden, you're gonna vote for loll If you're
Speaker 3: not gonna vote, you're not gonna vote. Think what they
Speaker 3: say at this point in time is really going to
Speaker 3: change him. I don't think there's pretty much too many
Speaker 3: undecided people at this point in time.
Speaker 4: So whatever he.
Speaker 3: Says, you know, he was in the Bronx, he brought
Speaker 3: out a chef g I don't think it's just at
Speaker 3: this point in time. It's just like you know, theatrics,
Speaker 3: it's already set. I think I don't think too much
Speaker 3: is really going to change from now to November.
Speaker 2: I think I think there are still some undecideds. I
Speaker 2: think it's the young, younger demographic, which is why you
Speaker 2: talk about topics that related to them. I think cryptocurrency
Speaker 2: is definitely one of those where there's a certain population
Speaker 2: who have absolutely no idea. I think he's in that
Speaker 2: population people have no idea how it works or it's
Speaker 2: fundamentally how it works. I'm just done. When you said
Speaker 2: it back, I just started laughing, like having it all
Speaker 2: made here, like yeah, really no clue, and so yeah,
Speaker 2: it speaks to It speaks to that audience, and it
Speaker 2: maybe perhaps that might be the one thing that they
Speaker 2: hear and say, you know what, maybe, yeah, this guy's
Speaker 2: for me because he's looking towards the future of not
Speaker 2: even currency, but of a stored value.
Speaker 3: My thing is this, though, from a political standpoint, Joe
Speaker 3: Biden has been a politician for fifty years almost Donald
Speaker 3: Trump was president for four years yep, and he effectively
Speaker 3: ran for president for the last four years, right, And
Speaker 3: he's one of the most famous people in the world history.
Speaker 3: So at what point do you need? What more information?
Speaker 3: How could you be undecided this point?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 3: Like, what more information do you need? What more information
Speaker 3: needs to be provided to an audience for them to
Speaker 3: make an educated decision on who they want to vote for.
Speaker 2: You always have people who are new to the political process,
Speaker 2: So that's one population. You have a population who weren't
Speaker 2: able to vote in the last election because they weren't
Speaker 2: even age appropriate to do it. So that's another population,
Speaker 2: which again speaks to a younger demographic. Who who what
Speaker 2: are they saying that's going to appeal to me? Right,
Speaker 2: Like when we talked about the chipsack, Yeah, that sounds
Speaker 2: really great, But how does that appeal to me? Well, cryptocurrency,
Speaker 2: that does appeal to me. And so you have those
Speaker 2: segments and pockets of people, people who are independent, who, Hey,
Speaker 2: if I'm going to vote either way, I might not
Speaker 2: like the independent candidates. So this population of people who
Speaker 2: are yet to be undecided hopefully, and that's what people
Speaker 2: are looking for. That's why they're going to these states
Speaker 2: to figure out. Yeah, we know we have that demographic
Speaker 2: of people, we have this demographic of people who's like
Speaker 2: on the fence that we can kind of sway.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just don't I just don't see it because
Speaker 3: I feel like even if you didn't vote, your young
Speaker 3: Like my son knows who Donald Trump is. He's thirteen
Speaker 3: years old, he knows body is.
Speaker 4: He knows.
Speaker 3: I just feel like in this day and age of
Speaker 3: social media were in a constant like previously there was
Speaker 3: only like it. Yep, you take three years off and
Speaker 3: you start running like this. These elections run twenty four
Speaker 3: hours a day, every single day.
Speaker 1: There's no officer.
Speaker 4: There's no officer.
Speaker 3: They don't stop running, right, So it's just like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I get some people might not vote last time, when
Speaker 3: people might be independent, when people might be.
Speaker 4: Young, But I don't know. I just feel like.
Speaker 3: We've never seen anything like this on social media where
Speaker 3: every single day Biden and Trump and everything, all the
Speaker 3: information's federally. You got ninety federal indictment, like everything has
Speaker 3: come out right, So it's like, I just I'm just
Speaker 3: curious to know, like what would be the one tipping
Speaker 3: point to be like Okay, I'm gonna switch my vote
Speaker 3: from to be or like this this is gonna be
Speaker 3: like after all of this, like this is going to
Speaker 3: be the one.
Speaker 2: That's what they're big, you know, right, that's why they
Speaker 2: spend money in marketing dollars because, yeah, it might not
Speaker 2: feel anything to us, but even for us, like, there's
Speaker 2: a population of people who are voting who may not
Speaker 2: be on social media the same way we are. And
Speaker 2: that's why the marketing dollars goes into some of those states.
Speaker 2: And so you'll see heavy campaigns in Pennsylvania, You'll see
Speaker 2: it in Georgia. You'll see it in Nevada, you see
Speaker 2: it in Ohio, you see it in Michigan, where it's
Speaker 2: like those where we know are going to those non
Speaker 2: states that are really going to decide the election. That's
Speaker 2: what you got to find those people down about.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't think it's necessarily and this is just
Speaker 3: my opinion. I don't think it's necessarily trying to find
Speaker 3: a voter to switch his allegiance or to change somebody's mind.
Speaker 3: I think it might A lot of people are not
Speaker 3: going to vote voter suppression on their own right. They're
Speaker 3: just not motivated. And it's just like, you know, if
Speaker 3: you can really most of these ads are negative ads.
Speaker 3: If you watch the political world, most of the ads
Speaker 3: are negative. The very few are positive ads, right, So
Speaker 3: the number one thing is try to suppress. You want
Speaker 3: to detegrate your opponents so bad that nobody even wants
Speaker 3: to vote for him, as opposed to even raising your
Speaker 3: own stature enough for people that want to vote for you.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: I think that that's the number one thing, because, like
Speaker 3: I said, if you look at most political ads, they're
Speaker 3: negative ads. They're not positive ads. They're not telling you
Speaker 3: what they're going to run on. They're telling you what
Speaker 3: the other person is terrible at.
Speaker 4: Right. So it's like they're banking on how can I
Speaker 4: suppress votes for this person as much as possible? Right?
Speaker 3: And then after that, I really feel like it is
Speaker 3: all issues that are like going to be here no
Speaker 3: matter what. It's like abortion, right, these are issues that's
Speaker 3: going to be fifty years ago, fifty years from now.
Speaker 3: Like these is just and it's like, Okay, how do
Speaker 3: I stand on this one particular issue? Not necessarily like
Speaker 3: I'm going to change somebody's mind, but I want to
Speaker 3: drill down that if you're a Christian, right wing Christian evangelical,
Speaker 3: like you only really have an opportunity to vote for me.
Speaker 3: If not, you know you're voting for the devil, right,
Speaker 3: And it's like that's more the political grand stand ring
Speaker 3: and games that's being played because even the debate, they
Speaker 3: might not even have a debate this year, right, And
Speaker 3: that's that's historic, that's historic because they always have they
Speaker 3: always have presidential debates. But I understand I understand why
Speaker 3: they wouldn't have a debate. They announced it, they said
Speaker 3: that they he would accept it, but they still haven't.
Speaker 3: They still haven't negotiat turn thet the date. So it's
Speaker 3: like at this point they might well just roll the dice.
Speaker 3: Biden go up there and just say, yo, if if
Speaker 3: you want Trump to win, everything is going to fall apart.
Speaker 4: That's that should be.
Speaker 1: That's good enough.
Speaker 3: And then Trump should just say if if you hate America,
Speaker 3: vote for Biden and then let's just see what happens,
Speaker 3: because at the end of the day, it's gonna be
Speaker 3: tremendously hard for Joe Biden to win, Right. But I
Speaker 3: think we all agree upon that, right, absolutely, absolutely, how
Speaker 3: he what's the eyes what's the odds that you're giving
Speaker 3: him for winning? You think Biden, I'll go.
Speaker 5: He's gonna it was for the same reason Trump lost
Speaker 5: the last time, like the people don't feel financially secure.
Speaker 5: Like presidential races are always about safety and money, they
Speaker 5: can move the definition of recession. And I'm telling you
Speaker 5: people do not feel as secure as they did, especially
Speaker 5: after they getting the taste of the PPP money and
Speaker 5: all that. I get what he's doing with the scholarships
Speaker 5: and student loans and all forgiveness and all that. But
Speaker 5: if people feel things are tighter in their home because
Speaker 5: of inflation, man, watch.
Speaker 3: What can be done. And you think Biden is no win, right,
Speaker 3: I think it's as up. No, I'm saying if you
Speaker 3: had to put a million dollars on it right now today,
Speaker 3: if I.
Speaker 2: Put a million dollars, I can put it. Oh, I
Speaker 2: think Biden.
Speaker 4: Ones he's losing every single swing state.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I've seen this before in twenty sixteen, where
Speaker 2: we thought the same exact thing, I mean literally the
Speaker 2: same exact scenario. Was like, there's no way, guys, not
Speaker 2: even a elected official that we have our secretary of state.
Speaker 1: The things have happened. Whoever, then Olivia is called.
Speaker 4: Patree.
Speaker 2: She was the first lady and look how it turned
Speaker 2: down Like it wasn't even close though. So he's the incumbent.
Speaker 2: I think there's still more. I think we'll be surprised.
Speaker 3: People hated Hillary Clinton though absolutely I want to say
Speaker 3: they hated Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 4: That's a fact.
Speaker 2: Smoke Donald Trump and they hate people hate Joe Biden.
Speaker 4: They also love Donald See this is the thing with
Speaker 4: Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing. If you if you say people
Speaker 2: love him, then you can't say that people don't love
Speaker 2: Joe Biden. Well, I can say he has the most
Speaker 2: votes in the history of the American election.
Speaker 4: All right, so here's people love him. No, they don't
Speaker 4: love let me, let me that's a vote against Trump.
Speaker 3: Joe Biden doesn't have any uh electric base of people
Speaker 3: that are enthusiastic about supporting him, but they let me
Speaker 3: finish saying, so they might be enthusiastic about defeating Donald Trump.
Speaker 3: Donald Trump has an enthusiastic base of supporters that rally
Speaker 3: and support him. This is why he can go to
Speaker 3: different places and and do these events and people will
Speaker 3: stop everything. They wear the merch, they buy the merch nobody.
Speaker 3: I haven't seen one person wear Joe Biden merch. I've
Speaker 3: never seen that. So what I'm saying is that if
Speaker 3: people are voting for Joe Biden, his His core base
Speaker 3: is not is not enthusiastic. The Black people are not
Speaker 3: enthusiastic for Joe Biden. We know that he just did
Speaker 3: the presidential thing at Morehouse and they turned their back
Speaker 3: to him. Latinos is not is not enthusiastic about him.
Speaker 3: That's another core base for him. They're not. They're not enthusiastic.
Speaker 3: They might support him because they just hate Donald Trump
Speaker 3: so much, but nobody is. Obama had people that was
Speaker 3: enthusiastic about him.
Speaker 2: People who hate him too.
Speaker 3: I understand that. But he rallied his support base to
Speaker 3: have enthusiastic votes Joe Biden, and they're struggling because they
Speaker 3: don't have enthusiasm. They have people that hate Trump, but
Speaker 3: they nobody is enthusiastic overly love with Biden, Harris taking.
Speaker 2: But the reality right, either if you loved them or
Speaker 2: you liked him, did he accumulate the most of the
Speaker 2: voltes in the history of an American election? Yeah, that
Speaker 2: still is on the table right.
Speaker 4: So one thing he's not going to have his money
Speaker 4: votes issue.
Speaker 2: We don't know. We don't know.
Speaker 4: We just we can only go by data that is being.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, that data that has been provided
Speaker 2: to us and show.
Speaker 4: Us that don't love Joe Biden is people do not
Speaker 4: love Joe Biden.
Speaker 3: He has one of the lowest approval ratings in American
Speaker 3: according to you Ian.
Speaker 4: Do you think people love Joe Biden the lowest?
Speaker 2: That's not true.
Speaker 4: Yeah, one of the lowest approve he has the.
Speaker 1: Lower Oh yeah, one of the lowest.
Speaker 2: So there's the guy, the guy that he's running against,
Speaker 2: has the lowest.
Speaker 4: I know, George Bush had the lowest. Ian. Do you
Speaker 4: think that people love Joe Biden?
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what we think? That's he said, no, No,
Speaker 2: I said.
Speaker 4: He shook his hands. You just said, I'm just asking,
Speaker 4: and I'm saying, it doesn't matter what we but I'm
Speaker 4: just curious to know his opinion.
Speaker 5: Also for the pictures too, he said, no, does the
Speaker 5: insurrection part that Trump did matter? So, yeah, the insurrection
Speaker 5: did he matter?
Speaker 2: I'm sure it will just to people who will this.
Speaker 4: No, it doesn't matter, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: He why doesn't matter because he has ninety one federal indictments.
Speaker 3: Obviously nobody nobody cared why rat he caught rape charged?
Speaker 3: Ninety one federal indictments he had and he started to
Speaker 3: damn their re vault.
Speaker 4: It's nothing.
Speaker 3: That's why he said I can go in front of
Speaker 3: Times Square and shoot somebody and it won't matter. He
Speaker 3: said this, and he wasn't wrong in saying that nothing
Speaker 3: that he that he does is going to matter because
Speaker 3: the people that hate him is already gonna hate him.
Speaker 4: That's not gonna change. It's not gonna seal the deal.
Speaker 1: Okay. The real question is who will be better for
Speaker 1: the country.
Speaker 3: His supporters will never stop supporting him no matter what
Speaker 3: he does. He literally can start World War three. His
Speaker 3: supporters will say it was somebody.
Speaker 2: So all right, that's true, right, But does he have
Speaker 2: enough support to win an election?
Speaker 4: I told I think he does.
Speaker 2: But that's what we'll have to see.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: You can say all those things, but the reality is
Speaker 2: when he ran day last year, he did not win.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and this is a different year, so we have
Speaker 4: to see.
Speaker 5: I think I think if Trump wins, it to be
Speaker 5: because Biden lost and mismanaged more than the outpouring, because
Speaker 5: that like for patriots people.
Speaker 1: I know some people that loved him. That attack that
Speaker 1: they did, that changed a lot of ship.
Speaker 5: That's like me going to moor House and burning down
Speaker 5: some buildings and burn.
Speaker 1: Down that stuff. That is know, I want it to happen.
Speaker 1: I'm saying like that that is preasing.
Speaker 4: But Ian, how did it all?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: How did it change anything?
Speaker 3: When he won the Republican nominee by Lancelide, wasn't nobody
Speaker 3: even challenged. It wasn't even close for Nicky Haley never
Speaker 3: even stood a chance. Right, he's winning. He literally went
Speaker 3: Wall Street Journal.
Speaker 1: NBC AB, everybody has a winning.
Speaker 3: Every single state that he needs to win, he's winning
Speaker 3: him there by double digits in most of these states.
Speaker 3: Right he has, he has momentum on his side, and
Speaker 3: he's raising He's going to raise less money than the Democrats. So,
Speaker 3: but that's what I'm saying, like, all right, how has
Speaker 3: it negatively affected him when he's on a pathway to
Speaker 3: become president.
Speaker 5: I'm just asking the question, will it show up at
Speaker 5: the voting booths in November?
Speaker 2: You got you got a five month runway, you could
Speaker 2: be as I said, you got momentum. Right now, the
Speaker 2: only momentum is gonna matter is on November fourth, November fifth,
Speaker 2: I got what.
Speaker 1: Can we have a conversation or edit out whatever we need?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think November four.
Speaker 5: I don't know what Biden can do to get i'm sorry,
Speaker 5: the momentum. And then also too, you can't go back
Speaker 5: to the black audience and say that you got come
Speaker 5: up because you haven't allowed her to have the freedom
Speaker 5: to do what she needs to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna be just let's be real, honest.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 5: They fucking used her and then put handcuffs on her.
Speaker 5: I don't see how he gets hot enough to win
Speaker 5: in November. And the crazy part whether Biden has the
Speaker 5: debate or not. Trump's gonna have his own debate and
Speaker 5: don't let that boy.
Speaker 1: Go on Rogan.
Speaker 2: I think they do have a degree.
Speaker 1: I think he.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a great idea, and then
Speaker 2: have the.
Speaker 1: Debate what Obama said back in the day, Yeah, yeah, because.
Speaker 2: If you do a nose whole bar where you're not
Speaker 2: having the moderates and traditional national debate form. I don't
Speaker 2: know if that caters to his strong suit, but I
Speaker 2: think he does it. But like you said, there's a
Speaker 2: five month runway from now until November fifth. Don't think
Speaker 2: it's gonna matter November fifth, when people go and vote,
Speaker 2: we'll see the turnout of this.
Speaker 5: Hey, you know how like Adam Instagram hit that button
Speaker 5: and then we get more engagement if the Democrats get
Speaker 5: hitting that button. Because even the most votes in history,
Speaker 5: do we really believe he got more votes in Obama?
Speaker 2: Ah?
Speaker 3: And even that number is that every year is gonna
Speaker 3: be more votes in history because it's more people. It's
Speaker 3: more than Obama had everybody out like you liked him
Speaker 3: or not, you're just playing with I never saw the
Speaker 3: voting post that pack the.
Speaker 4: Second most votes in American history. More people turn out
Speaker 4: the wall.
Speaker 3: I just feel like at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: it's going to be an uphill battle for Joe Biden
Speaker 3: to win. But if he's able to pull it off,
Speaker 3: it'll be it'll be tremendous political victory for the Democrats
Speaker 3: because I don't think that they really even expected him
Speaker 3: to win at this point. They focusing on the Senate,
Speaker 3: they focusing on Congress. They actually polling pretty well. They
Speaker 3: pulling pretty well in the Senate, they pulling pretty well
Speaker 3: in Congress. You know, local elections, things like that, like
Speaker 3: you know it and nothing is impossible.
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