1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: The volume. All right, Well, good to hoopsin I you're 2 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: at the volume heavy Wednesday. Everybody hopefull of you guys 3 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 1: are having an incredible week so far. Got a quick 4 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: show for you guys today. We're gonna do an instant 5 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: reaction to one game from last night as the Detroit 6 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: Pistons and the Cleveland Cavaliers how to rematch this time 7 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: with James Harden involved, as the Cavs kind of controlled 8 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: that one throughout and responded to every Pistons run and 9 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: got a big win there. We're going to dive into 10 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: that game and at the tail end of the show, 11 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: I want to kind of start spending some time, especially 12 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: over the tail end of the season, talking about some 13 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: of the best role players in the league and the 14 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: guys that drive success for their teams. As the league 15 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 1: has changed, as defenses have become more sophisticated and better 16 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: at taking the ball out of stars hands, and as 17 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: the game has become more of a possession battles, it's 18 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: become more about driving the total number of possessions through 19 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: turnovers and offensive rebound and various things that you can 20 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: do to increase margin. Having good role players that can 21 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: drive success in those areas is a major driver of 22 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: teams success for these teams that are trying to achieve 23 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: their championship goals. So I have four role players that 24 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: I want to do some deep dives on today in 25 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: the last segment of the show. You guys, before we 26 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: get started, subscribe to Hoops Tonight YouTube channels you don't 27 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: miss any more of our videos. Make sure you guys 28 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 1: like this video as well as sign up for post 29 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: notifications you don't miss any more of them. Then mailbag 30 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: on Friday. Drop your questions in. We'll get to them 31 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: in our mail bags throughout the remainder of the season. 32 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk some basketball. So I want to 33 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 1: start with the defensive game plan and specifically the job 34 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: that Jalen Tyson did on Kate Cunningham. I thought that 35 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: was a huge part of the Cavs success in this game. 36 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: We're going to talk a lot about Jalen Tyson when 37 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: we get to our role player segment, because he's become 38 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: one of my favorite role players in the league, and 39 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: he was incredible in like a dozen different ways in 40 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: this game. But he was the tip of the spear 41 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: defensively in this game. I thought he did a phenomenal 42 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: job being physical and pressuring kid out on the perimeter 43 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: with his size, which was forcing him to rush and 44 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: to drive into traffic. And then while those drives were occurring, 45 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: staying attached, continuing to pressure. When you look at it, 46 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 1: you are when you apply pressure. One of the best 47 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: things you can do in that specific situation is cause 48 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: a player to rush. That's the whole point. You can 49 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: control the level of comfort that a ball handler has. 50 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: If you give space and you let him to get 51 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: methodical with the basketball, he can get into some of 52 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: his pull up shots more comfortably. He can decide when 53 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: he wants to drive. He's driving on his terms. He 54 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: can do what he wants to do to set you 55 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: up for the screen. Whereas if you pressure and you 56 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: apply physical force, it doesn't allow him to comfortably dribble. 57 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: It dictates when he drives, because when you pressure, the 58 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: best way to attack pressure is to drive, and it 59 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: allows everything to happen on your terms. Defensively, and then 60 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:57,679 Speaker 1: from there, the Cavs just did a great job of 61 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: swarming the paint on defense, helping on those KD drives, 62 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: swarming the role. The Cavs have a couple of really 63 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: good vertical presences, which we've seen cause some problems for 64 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: this Detroit offense. The Spurs showed us. The Spurs showed 65 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: us about a week ago with Cad. If you guys, remember, 66 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,839 Speaker 1: if you can put physical size on Cad. We saw 67 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: this with Steph Cassel in that game. More of Jalen 68 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: Tyson in this game, but if you could put physical 69 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 1: size on Cade and you have the size to protect 70 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: the rim, when Cade drives against those pressure, that ball pressure, 71 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: he can actually have some brutal nights. The reason why 72 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: is because he's a good short range shot maker, but 73 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: not a great one. He's below below fifty percent on 74 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: those short twos outside of the restricted area inside of 75 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: seventeen feet this season. Hit a couple of them early 76 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: in the game, but from there had a really hard 77 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: time getting going in that short range. And we talked 78 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: after that Spurs game. If you guys remember that's one 79 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: of the big areas of improvement for KD. Cad as 80 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: he at least is functioning in this version of the team. 81 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: There may be different versions of the Pistons in the 82 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: long run, right, Like you know, like Ron Holland's been 83 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: shooting a ton of threes, maybe that eventually comes around 84 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: into a guy who can knock them down instead of 85 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: shooting below twenty five percent on them, and maybe he 86 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: becomes a knockdown guy. Maybe you know, they make a 87 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: move or two within the next couple of seasons and 88 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 1: they can create more space and life gets easier for 89 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 1: cad on offense. But until that happens, and we're probably 90 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: several cycles away from that happening. Until that happens, it's 91 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: just going to be really difficult for kid to get 92 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: to the rim and finish easily against some of these 93 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: better teams that can apply physical ball pressure and protect 94 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: the rim vertically when he gets there in that phase 95 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: of his career, in that phase of Detroit's development, that 96 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: short range finishing is going to be key, and it's 97 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: just something that he's good, not great at at this 98 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: point in time. And Cleveland replicated that dynamic, and that 99 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: was a big part of how they held CAID to 100 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: just four for sixteen from the field and five turnovers. 101 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: There were you know, Detroit actually fared pretty well overall 102 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: on the scoreboard against Cleveland's two big looks, but there 103 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: were some times where I was watching the two big 104 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: looks too, and I was thinking about it in a 105 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 1: postseason context. You put Jared Allen on Jalen Duran, and 106 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: you run you some variation of a higher drop coverage 107 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: which will make Cad play in a crowd. But then 108 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: you also have Evan Mobley on and sar Thompson, and 109 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: that kind of creates this like layered effect where you're 110 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: dealing with just a completely clogged paint with two guys 111 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: that have real vertical presences there. And I think that's 112 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: something that Detroit's going to see a lot of if 113 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: they run into Cleveland in a playoff series. Now again, 114 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: the Pistons found ways to score. Jalen Durn and Nasar 115 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: Thompson had forty between the two of them, mostly around 116 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: the rim. We all know Cleveland can get a little 117 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: bit pushed around by physicality. There were a lot of 118 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: transition opportunities of sar Thompson was doing a great job 119 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: cutting baseline when the Cavs were loading up. He got 120 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: several easy baskets cutting along the baseline. Offensive rebound putbacks 121 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: for Jalen Durn. Like I think of Jalen Durn's twenty 122 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: four fifteen of them were either on rolls or cuts 123 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: or offensive rebound put backs, just cleaning stuff up around 124 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: the basket. Javonte Green was great in this game. His 125 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: jump shooting was very important. I had a crazy highlight 126 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: transition dunk as well. Tobias Harris continues to do damage 127 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 1: attacking small as one on one. So like Detroit found 128 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: ways to score and kept things relatively competitive. But I 129 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: thought the Cavs core game plan on CAD allowed them 130 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: to get all the key stops that they needed to 131 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: maintain control when they were able to control the pistons 132 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:29,239 Speaker 1: on the margins, and then so many offensive contributions across 133 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: the board. James Harden had a tough night. That's a 134 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: big physical perimeter defense in Detroit. He had some turnover issues, 135 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: a couple of really lackadaisical passes that you just can't 136 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: get away with against teams this good his step back 137 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: three in particular, I thought Detroit did a really good 138 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: job at closing the space. And you can always tell 139 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: when Harden's like comfortable on his step back three versus 140 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 1: when he's not. He does this like kind of weird 141 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: flail forward where he's like his hands on his jump 142 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: shot release. He'll kick his hands forward and he'll kick 143 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: his feet forward when he's feeling crowded, and I thought, 144 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: just Detroit, they're bigs on switches and their guards all 145 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: did a good job, just like closing that space on 146 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,679 Speaker 1: James harding at James Harden too, making those step backs 147 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: more difficult. I think both of the two threes that 148 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: he hit when he hit one off the catch, and 149 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: then there was another one in transition where he hit 150 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: a step back three, but it was more of like 151 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: a chaos type of situation. But that's to be expected, right, No, 152 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell, You're getting the best perimeter defenders on one 153 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: of the best defenses in the league, a lot of 154 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: aggressive coverages, but he just found ways to manufacture points. 155 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: I think he finished with eighteen in this game. Hit 156 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: a couple of threes. He talked about the transition step back, 157 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: he got one off the catch, got to the foul 158 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,119 Speaker 1: line a few times, a key little classic James Harden 159 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: grift in crunch time that was a big one. Created 160 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: some shots for his teammates off the bouncers, creating advantage, 161 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: and then he did create one bucket late in the game. 162 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: Again in the game where he's struggling to hit shots, 163 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: he's five for seventeen, but he did get a big 164 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: one late, a driving bank shot off of a pretty 165 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: nasty hesitation move. Kind of started to drive, pulled back 166 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: like he was gonna stop, hit the gap again, and 167 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: just banked in a little left he shot going towards 168 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: the rim. That was a big part of what helped 169 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: put the game away. So again, tough night. But when 170 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: you're in Harden's position there, it's unrealistic to expect him 171 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: to just go for thirty seven on sixty five percent 172 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: t shooting against that level of defense, the way that 173 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: they were loading up on him in that game, right, 174 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: you just want him to manufacture enough offense to get 175 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: the job done, and he did. Jalen Tyson had twenty 176 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: two consistently spacing the floor. He hit five threes, some 177 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: contested ones, some open ones. I'm gonna set Tyson to 178 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: the side because we're going to talk about him in 179 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: our role player segment. Evan Mobley has some really nice 180 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: one on one bully ball attacks. That's really the one 181 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: thing that this team is missing. It's why I think 182 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 1: it may be a fun Lebron destination. But Evan had 183 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: a couple of big ones. A spinning nasty left handed dunk, 184 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: another little turnaround hook shot over his left shoulder, and 185 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: he hit what I thought was the biggest shot of 186 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: the game. So Detroit had actually cut the lead to 187 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: one late in the fourth quarter, and he hit a 188 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: massive three on the left wing on the very next possession. 189 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: Kind of felt like a giant exhale for Cleveland, like 190 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,599 Speaker 1: took all that pressure or the situation off when it 191 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: felt like Detroit was taking control. Just a massive shot 192 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: from Evan Mobley. His three point shooting has been up 193 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: and down this season, but I think he's coming on 194 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: at a good time. He looks comfortable and confident as 195 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: of late. Sam Merril and Thomas Bryant hit some timely threes, 196 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: Like both of Thomas Bryant's threes were on these like 197 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 1: broken plays where it looked like they were going nowhere. 198 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 1: Like Jalen Tyson had this weird little baseline drive where 199 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: he kind of got cut off and it looked like 200 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: it was going nowhere. Thomas Bryant's setting up on the 201 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: left wing extended, he just hits him in the pocket. 202 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: Thomas just hits a contested three, hit another one contested 203 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: out of the left corner on a kickout pass. Those 204 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 1: are like found money in a game like this against 205 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 1: such a good Detroit defense, Sam Merrill hit one of 206 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: the biggest threes in the game, beating nail help off 207 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: of a Cade Cunningham kind of like dig down around 208 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: the foul line and like one of the things specifically 209 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: with the calves. That is part of why I'm so 210 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: excited about them. I talk about why they're one of 211 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: the most complete teams in the league, and probably the 212 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: most complete team in the Eastern Conference, and it's because 213 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: if you look at all the specific things like their 214 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: dribble shot creation, you're not doing much better than Schroeder, 215 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: Mitchell and Harden right. Like you look at the pick 216 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: and roll threats, right in terms of like role finishing 217 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: in ball screens, you can't do a whole lot better 218 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: than Evan Mobley and Jared Allen. Right. When you talk 219 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: about perimeter defense against quicker guards, you can't do much 220 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: better than guys like Dennis Schroeder and Kean Ellis. When 221 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: you talk about bigger defender a bigger offensive players like 222 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: Jalen Tyson did an awesome job on Kate and Kate 223 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: kind of is the prototypical kind of bigger forward shot creator. Right, Like, 224 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,119 Speaker 1: you go down the line and there's all these strengths 225 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: with this team, and one of the specific ones with 226 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: the Calves is they have knockdown shooting on the weak side. 227 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: That knockdown shooting is a key part of what makes 228 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: them so hard to guard. Jalen Tyson beating low man. 229 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: Help Jalen Tyson hitting against nail. Help Sam Merrill late 230 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: in the game. All you have is James Harden kind 231 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: of probing down the lane. There goes Kay Cunningham sending 232 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: the help. All it is is a simple little swing 233 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: pass out to Sam maryl on the right wing, and 234 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: he hits one of the biggest shots of the game. There. 235 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: The Cavs have makers. I remember when I started coaching 236 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: high school a few years ago. I actually started right 237 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: before I started with the volume, and it forced me 238 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: to kind of change my role with them to more 239 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: of like a skill development thing. But when I was 240 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: regularly coaching, I remember the coach Doug Damore at the time. 241 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: You used to always say like, are you a shooter? 242 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: Are you a maker? And there's a lot of guys 243 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: in the league that are shooters that like can make threes, 244 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: but there's like they'll have nights where they can't make 245 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: anything right, and then they'll have other nights where they 246 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 1: look great. That's all. I feel like the majority of 247 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: shooters kind of fall into that lane. But there are 248 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: shooters in the league, you know, a few dozen of 249 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: them that are like makers, Like you cannot leave these 250 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: dudes open. They are going to hit shots. And to me, 251 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: Sam Maryl and Jalen Tyson in particular, are two of 252 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: those guys. And so when you set up your actions 253 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: and you've got Sam Maryl and Jalen Tyson spotting up 254 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: on the weak side, it just makes them extremely difficult 255 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: to guard because you want to load up, but when 256 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: you do, they are just set up to handle that 257 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: on kickouts. Craig Porter had only seven points in this game, 258 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: but they all came in the third quarter and they 259 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: were super important to Steiny. Detroit Runs hit a tough 260 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: corner three out of the left corner. He drove out 261 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: of that same left corner by Tobias Harrison, got a 262 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: pretty nasty little two hand dunk on the baseline, had 263 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: an offensive rebound put back where he just went quick 264 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: up with the reverse with his right hand on the 265 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: left side of the rim felt like a huge seven 266 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: points in the moment. And I cannot say enough about 267 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: Dennis Schroeder. I talked after the trade about how he's 268 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,719 Speaker 1: long been one of my favorite backup guards in the NBA. 269 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 1: He can guard quick guards and he can beat people 270 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: off the dribble. Those are two skills that have a 271 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 1: lot of utility in the modern NBA. And then he's 272 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 1: also just this savage competitor that you want in the 273 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: trenches with you in a big spot. Like I kept 274 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: thinking as I was watching that game, I'm like, I 275 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: would feel so much better about Detroit's chances this year 276 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: if they had Dennis Schroeder instead of Karris Lavere. Now, 277 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: I don't blame the Pistons for that at all. The 278 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: Sacramento Kings came in and made a ridiculous offer to Schroeder. 279 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: It wouldn't have been smart for the Pistons to match that. 280 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: So it's not a slight at Detroit. I just mean 281 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 1: it as a demonstration of how much I valued Dennis 282 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: Schroeder as a backup guard on a serious team, because 283 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 1: he can step into higher usage roles like he did 284 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 1: when both of the guards were out or right now, 285 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell's out. But he also can anchor these bench 286 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: units and make just big key sequences, big drives in 287 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: big spots, and like he had fifteen points in this game, 288 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: and the same little hesitation right handed drive that he's 289 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: been torching the entire league with for years and years 290 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: and years just kept coming through for him. He had 291 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: this absurd one in the early fourth quarter against Isaiah 292 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: Stewart that I've really never seen before. He drove past 293 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 1: Stewart and it looked like he was about to go 294 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: reverse because he turned his back towards the baseline, and 295 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: when he turns his back towards the baseline, he stays 296 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: on the strong side of the rim, so stays on 297 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: that right side of the rim, and then like's like 298 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: a kind of a reverse English shot as Isaiah Stewart's 299 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: trying to block it off of again the same side 300 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: of the rim that he drove on and scooped it in. 301 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: It was a ridiculous finish because again you'll see a 302 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: lot of times with those quick guards, you'll see the 303 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: extend finish, like, oh I beat him off the dribble, 304 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: I extend out and I quickly get it off the 305 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: glass or I go reverse right, but you don't often 306 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: see the guy go on the strong side and like 307 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: do this weird backwards like spinning finish, almost like he's 308 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: going reverse. It was a ridiculous make. And then he 309 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: had another one on Tobias Harrison crunch time that was huge, 310 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: same sort of thing. Just Tobias is there, he knows 311 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: it's coming, but he just gets so low to the 312 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: ground and he is such a low center of gravity 313 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: and he hits that move so fast it's just really 314 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: difficult to keep him in front. Every single one of 315 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: those buckets from Dennis felt huge in this game. Hit 316 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: a couple of threes as well. And Dennis, you know, 317 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: one of the other nice pieces of utility with him 318 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: if if you leave him open, he's a capable like 319 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: spot up three point shooter, which gives him some utility 320 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: off the ball as well. But he help James Harden 321 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: survive all of the ball handling duties in that crazy 322 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: physical game and carried bench units with James Harden off 323 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: the floor. Is just a huge part of how they 324 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: won that game. Just a really, really impressive performance from 325 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: Dennis Schroeder. The return of James Harden has settled things 326 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: down for Cleveland. They've won two in a row after 327 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: losing three out of four. They are now eight in 328 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: one in games that James Harden has played in, and 329 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: they have a one twenty three offensive rating with him 330 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: on the floor. And it kind of has gone exactly 331 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: as I expected before the trade. Like I talked about, 332 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: there's been stagnant stretches where it's like, Okay, James Harden 333 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: has missed three threes in the last forty five seconds 334 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: and he's taking these tough step backs, and you know, 335 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: sometimes it can look at a little stagnant. Sometimes it 336 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: could look a little sloppy. There's occasional off ball mistakes. 337 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: He had a couple of missed box outs and got 338 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: back cut in this game. Once you're gonna see the 339 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: classic stuff with James Harden, But overall, there's a level 340 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: of advantage creation with him that raises the floor. And 341 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: then you have the type of playfin wishing that this 342 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: Cleveland team has, which is what gives it its ceiling. 343 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: And again, they're just killing teams with James Harden on 344 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: the floor so far. In a caves Jersey super super 345 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: excited to see how that pans out over the course 346 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: of the rest of the season. Now, a couple of things. 347 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: Jared Allen left the game early with an injured name. 348 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: I went back and watched those last few possessions and 349 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: I couldn't really tell what exactly was going on. And 350 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: we had heard before the game that Donovan Mitchell's groin 351 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: injury that he would have played last night if it 352 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: was a playoff game. So they're just trying to be careful. 353 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: Let's hope that's the case with Jared Allen too, that 354 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: they're just trying to be careful with him and manage 355 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: his comfort. Don't want to see any sort of long 356 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: term injury there. 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Just wanted to give it 398 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: a quick shout out before we move on to the 399 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 1: role players to drive success segment, because man, what has 400 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 1: show did he put on down the stretch against the 401 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: Memphis Grizzlies. Okay, so I have four guys that don't 402 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: want to hit today, and again, like I talked about, 403 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: as the league has shifted towards these more sophisticated defensive 404 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: schemes that are taking the ball out of Star's hands 405 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: more often. Like, when you really dig into the numbers, yeah, 406 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 1: there are guys that are scoring a lot of points. 407 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: But when you look at the number of possessions that 408 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: take place in every NBA game and you relate that 409 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: back to what point per game totals were decades ago, 410 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: there's a lot of interesting data there because again, like 411 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 1: the scoring is high, but not dramatically higher than what 412 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 1: we've seen in previous seasons, Yet the number of possessions 413 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: is dramatically higher. So even though we see these high 414 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 1: point per game totals, it's important to understand that, like 415 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: Stars are actually scoring less on a per possession basis 416 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: than they were back in the day, there is a 417 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: lot of work that defenses have done to get the 418 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: ball out of Stars hands. Then you factor in this 419 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 1: stuff we talked about with the possession battle, right, a 420 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: lot of lessons that we learned this year, like if 421 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: you can control the offensive glass, that actually has a 422 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: great deal of utility and doesn't impact your transition defense 423 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: as much as you'd think. Why Because as we've learned, 424 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: if you try if you attack out of the corner 425 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: on your crashes and you have your floor balance set 426 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 1: up at the top of the key, and guys get 427 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: back in transition defense. Even if guys crash out of 428 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: the corner and they don't get the ball, they can 429 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: either immediately turn around and pressure the ball defensively, or 430 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: they can wing up the floor and get back in 431 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: transition defense. Right, So, like, there's a there is a 432 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of like information that has come 433 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 1: out in recent years that has shown us that like, 434 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: actually it makes more sense to crash than it does 435 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: to just get back. Similarly with the turnover battle, like, yeah, 436 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: if you get up into the basketball, you're gonna commit fouls. 437 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: If you get up into the basketball, you're gonna give 438 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: up dribble penetration. If you swarm rolls and cuts and drives, 439 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 1: you might give up open threes. But the counter to 440 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: that is you make the opposing ball handler uncomfortable. You 441 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: can force turnovers, and that sparks more transition opportunities. And 442 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 1: when you spark transition opportunities, you're way more efficient than 443 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: you are in the half court. So all of a sudden, 444 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 1: the positions battle has risen to the surface as one 445 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: of the most important parts of modern NBA basketball, and 446 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: so the importance of having quality role players that can 447 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: help you control the possession battle has become greater than 448 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: it was in years past. Having guards and wings who 449 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: can rebound really effectively, especially on corner crashes. We're going 450 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: to talk about that with guys like Jalen Tyson and 451 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: Julian Champenni, Guys that can fuel chaos by forcing turnovers 452 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: or getting the dribble penetration that compromises the defense and 453 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 1: creates openings. There's all these little things that can help 454 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: you win games aside from your stars. That's why I 455 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: want to take some time to shout these guys out. 456 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 1: So starting with Jalen Tyson, the rebounding is the big 457 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: one for me. This is a guy who in his 458 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: career so far is averaging well over seven rebounds per 459 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,719 Speaker 1: thirty six minutes, as you know, as essentially just like 460 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: a weird guard forward hybrid, right, and he's great at 461 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 1: both ends. This is a guy that's averaging almost three 462 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 1: offensive rebounds offensive rebounds per thirty six So, like the 463 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: corner crashing is super super impressive with him, and like 464 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 1: you it was a big part of the win against Detroit. 465 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: You just watch him come skying in and he looks 466 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: big and physical and strong and he's just playing super hard. 467 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: But he does it on the defensive end as well. 468 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: There are a lot of these contested rebounds defensively that 469 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: Jalen Ticon comes away with because he's willing to crash, 470 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: because he's willing to scrap in those situations. Then there's 471 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: the shooting. This is one of the best wide open 472 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: three point shooters in the league. He's got great balance. 473 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: He's very good at taking the ball from different catching pockets, 474 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: like if the pass is a little off target, and 475 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: just going right up into his form. So even though 476 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 1: his release looks a little slow and it's a little 477 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 1: bit of like it's not a complete set shot, but 478 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: it's a little set. Even though it's set and slow, 479 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: he can get it off because he goes quick from 480 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: wherever the catches immediately into his shooting pocket. There's not 481 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 1: a lot of wasted motion. There's not an exaggerated dip 482 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: or an exaggerated gatherer on his shot, so he can 483 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: get it off whenever he needs to, and he takes 484 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: quite a few of the guarded ones, and he shoots 485 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 1: pretty well on I'm thirty seven percent on guarded catch 486 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: and shoot threes. He's taken about two hundred and fifty 487 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: catch and shoot threes this season, at about one hundred 488 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: of them have been guarded. I we're gonna talk about 489 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: this with Julian Champagne. I like it when it's like 490 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 1: pretty much fifty to fifty, But there are a lot 491 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: of guys around the league that like two thirds seventy 492 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 1: percent of the catch and shoot threes they take are 493 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: unguarded because they're trying to drive percentages and they don't 494 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: feel comfortable with confident shooting contested threes, and that actually 495 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: comes with a lot less value than a guy who's 496 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 1: aggressive looking to shoot there. Jalen Tyson's willing to take those. 497 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: Very good at driving closeouts. He's twenty three percent on 498 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: twoes this year out of spot ups, and it really 499 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: comes down to, like he's good at getting all the 500 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: way to the rim. But I want to actually emphasize 501 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: the floater here because there is an element to him 502 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: as a screener that brings a lot of value in 503 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: a lot of specific situations because of his ability to 504 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: work in the middle of the floor with that soft 505 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: touch on that floater. So like driving a close out, 506 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 1: gets in the middle four, he can make floaters. Right. 507 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 1: He's shooting fifty eight percent on twos driving closeouts this year. 508 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: That's an absolutely insane number, right, But it's also the 509 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: screening for the guards and slipping out anytime they face 510 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: his zone. Look, he can play in the middle of 511 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: the floor, it is. And it's not just the floaters too, 512 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: Like he can pop out of those ghost screens and 513 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: hit threes. He's over fifty percent on ghost screen threes 514 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 1: this season. I think he's seven for thirteen, but he's 515 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: hit forty floaters this year on fifty percent. As a 516 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: result of that, in the ghost screens, he has seventy 517 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 1: seven points this year slipping out of screens. That's insane 518 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: for a guard, and again most of those are twos, 519 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 1: just him going. It's very simple. He goes up to 520 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: the top for one of the guards, whether it's one 521 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: of their shooters or it's Mitchell or Harden. He'll set 522 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: the screen, his man will step out to switch. The 523 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: guy who's guarding Harden or guarding Mitchell or guarding Merrill 524 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 1: will stay on the ball for just a second. So 525 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: when Tyson goes up and sets the screen, he can 526 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: then immediately slip to the foul line and both guys 527 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: li on the ball for just a second, easy, a 528 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 1: little over the top pass he turns. The bigs are 529 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 1: a little hesitant to step up because you got your 530 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: vertical spacing threats and Mobiley and Allen. He just turns 531 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: and shoots that little floater in the lane and again 532 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: he can hit it at fifty percent. He's a strong 533 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: on ball defender, he's a strong off ball defender. He 534 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 1: makes all sorts of these little plays that helps his 535 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 1: team win games. Like there's a crazy play last night 536 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: where James Harden's trying to iso Kate Cunningham off of 537 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: the left wing and he just gets beat to the 538 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: spot and so the play falls apart. And so all 539 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: he does Jalen Tyson is he flashes towards the strong side. 540 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: And when he flashes towards the strong side, it's kind 541 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: of like short corner extended up a little bit, up 542 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: up the lane line a little bit, but he just 543 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: quick catches with his back turn to the basket. James 544 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: Harden throws him the ball and Asar Thompson on him 545 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: right Star Thompson, one of the best perimeter defenders in 546 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: the league. All Jalen Tyson does is immediately on the catch, 547 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 1: spins over his left shoulder, and when he spins over 548 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 1: his left shoulder, just absolutely fries asar Thompson just goes 549 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: right around him. Entire depen collapses. He skips it to 550 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: the corner. Swing swing, wide open three on the left wing, 551 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: and it goes in. And I'm like, this is a 552 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: broken play that turned into a wide open three because 553 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: Jalen Tyson was active and aware of what was happening, 554 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: flashed to the basketball, beat his man off the dribble 555 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: with a quick move, and made a very simple decision 556 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: that led to the defense breaking down and creating an 557 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 1: open three. He actually had a similar play to win 558 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: a game earlier this year. I didn't have a chance 559 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 1: this morning to look it up. Those of you guys 560 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: in the comments, maybe you can remind me, but there 561 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: was a very similar play that won a game earlier 562 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 1: this year where they were trying to run a sideline 563 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: out of bounds play on a final possession. I think 564 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: they were down one if I remember correctly, and it 565 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: kind of looked like it broke down and Jalen Tyson 566 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 1: just flashed to the ball, caught it on the left corner, 567 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: extended and spun over his right shoulder, beat his man baseline, 568 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: and dropped it off to I think it was Jared 569 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: Allen right in front of the rim, and it ended 570 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: up being like the game winner, literally one of the 571 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: I think it was in that game that he had 572 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: forty earlier this year. I can't remember exactly who they 573 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: were playing, but like very similar type of play last 574 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: night against the Pistons. Just so many little things that 575 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: helps team win games. I will be very curious to 576 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: see if they stick with Dean Wade in the starting 577 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: lineup when they're fully healthy, or if they stick with 578 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: Sam Merrill or what they go with. I personally think 579 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: Jalen Tyson is the guy. I think Jalen Tyson is 580 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: the guy that does the most things well enough to 581 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: be the fifth guy even if Max Struz is healthy, 582 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 1: even if Sam Merril's healthy, even if Dean Wade is healthy, 583 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: Jalen Tyson is the guy that I would play there. 584 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: And lastly, this is why it's so important when you're 585 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 1: in these contending windows to hit on your draft picks. 586 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: When you smoke all your draft picks off on you know, 587 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 1: a bus or or maybe on a different position group 588 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,959 Speaker 1: than what you need. It can be debilitating to a franchise. 589 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: Like just take the Lakers, for example, you botch the 590 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: Dalton Connect pick, You'd botch the Jalen Hoodschafino pick. Imagine 591 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: if they had in the mid first round, got a 592 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: guy like Jalen Tyson who just was there starting three, 593 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: and it would just all have so many problems for them. 594 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: And like here for Cleveland, like if if you don't 595 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 1: hit on the Jalen Tyson pick, obviously you have Sam 596 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: Marril Dean Wayge, you have options. But like suddenly the 597 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 1: Max s truce injury becomes a much bigger problem. Whereas 598 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: now it's like, you know, and Max Trew's apparently is 599 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 1: just now starting to ramp up, so we're gonna get 600 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: to see more of him, hopefully before the end of 601 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: the season. I think it just came out yesterday that 602 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 1: he had a positive scan and he's gonna be starting 603 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: some on court work, so we might get to see 604 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 1: Max Strews soon enough. But like Jalen Tyson has given 605 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: them the luxury of being like, yeah, if we get 606 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: Max great, but like I don't view Max Struce as 607 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: like some major swing piece for the team this year 608 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: the way I would have before the development of Jalen Tyson. 609 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: Next guy Jose Alvarado of the New York Knicks, the 610 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: guy that originally looked like he might have just been 611 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,479 Speaker 1: a duce McBride kind of like fill in until he 612 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: recovered from his abdominal injury. But he's played so well 613 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that if the Knicks run with a 614 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: shortened rotation that Duce McBride will even get spot back 615 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: if he gets healthy in time for the postseason. That's 616 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: how good Jose Alvarado has been, and Jose Alvarado is 617 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: the definition of a chaos agent. The Knicks this season 618 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: our outscoring opponents so far by twenty four points per 619 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: one hundred possessions when Jose Alvarado is on the floor 620 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: a one to twenty five offensive rating and a one 621 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: to oh one defensive rating. The chaos agent comes on 622 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: both ends of the floor. It comes as a product 623 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: of his ability to be a defensive playmaker while also 624 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: having the ability on the other end of the floor 625 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: to consistently penetrate the defense. We were talking about this. 626 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: If you guys remember with Dennis Schroeder earlier in the show, 627 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: that's a very simple, very useful skill in the NBA. 628 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: Can you guard the ball and be the defensive playmaker 629 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: on one end of the floor, and can you generate 630 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: dribble penetration on the other end of the floor. If 631 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: you can do those two things, you have a ton 632 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: of utility in the modern NBA, especially as a backup 633 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: guard where you're not as necessarily important against the best 634 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: lineups and the biggest spots where maybe your size can 635 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: get exploited, or some other weakness like Jose has been 636 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: weak on off the dribble threes this year, or heavily 637 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: contested catch and shoot threes this year, like those are 638 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: marginal weaknesses that you don't necessarily have to contend with 639 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: in big spots and big games in your best lineups, 640 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: in these bench groups, if you can just have two 641 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: or three things that you're really good at, it can 642 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: be enough to drive success. He's averaging three point three 643 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: stocks per thirty six minutes since coming over to the Knicks. 644 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: That's the defense of chaos element, getting up into the ball, 645 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: forcing turnovers, sparking those transition opportunities, and then on the 646 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: other end of the floor, he's such a good like 647 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: dribble prober kind of guy, whether it's in ball screens 648 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: or ISOs transitions a big one as well. When he 649 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: gets into the middle of the floor, he's an exceptionally 650 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: gifted passers to cutters and vertical spacers like lob passes, 651 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: pocket passes, things along them. Those lines. He has forty 652 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: assists to just nine turnovers so far to the Knicks. 653 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: It's a big part that's driving some of his on 654 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: ball success. So he's been over a point per possession 655 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: on seventy two on ball action so far as a 656 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: Nick pick and rolls in ISOs primarily, but a big 657 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: part of that is when he gets into the middle 658 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: of the floor, his timing and his accuracy on bounce 659 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: passes and lob passes is just super dialed in. It's 660 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: something he's very very good at. And then he's knocking 661 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: down his open unguarded catch and shoot threes. He's forty 662 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: eight percent this season on those open unguarded catch and 663 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: shoot looks. And one of the things we talked about 664 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: with the Knicks last year, they were firmly in the 665 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: middle of the pack as a team that generates spot 666 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: up opportunities. This season, they're literally the second best team 667 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: in the league at generating spot up opportunities. So having 668 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: guys that can knock down those open, unguarded catch and 669 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: shoot threes, that's a huge part of what drives success 670 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: for this team. But again, the chaos is what drives 671 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: all those possession things we talked about, right, transition opportunities, 672 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: you're more efficient. I've talked about how the most efficient 673 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: play type in the half court that's not at the 674 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: rim is a spot up opportunity, right, So like if 675 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: you have dribble opportunity, a dribble drive guy who can 676 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: consistently create shots at the rim through lobs and bounce 677 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: passes to cutters, but that can also generate spot up opportunities. 678 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: You're driving the half court version of the most successful, 679 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: most efficient offense that you can drive in that specific situation. 680 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: And Jose just on both ends of the floor through 681 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: the CHAOSI generates on defense and the dribble penetration he 682 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: generates on offense just drives tons of success in that chaos. 683 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: For the Knicks, again, they are twenty four points positive 684 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: per one hundred possessions when he's on the floor this season, 685 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: and the on off net rating is something like plus 686 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: twenty six, which is just absolutely insane, just really really 687 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: impressive start to his next tenure for Jose Alvarado. Third 688 00:32:56,040 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: guy today, Julian Champenni plus fourteen per one hundred possessions 689 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: with him on the floor versus off for the San 690 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: Antonio Spurs. He was plus thirty nine last night in 691 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: Philly in twenty two minutes. The Spurs were just plus 692 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: one the rest of the game. Has consistently been one 693 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: of their best plus minus guys all season. Really comes 694 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: down to two things. One deadly aggressive catch and shoot shooting. 695 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: This is a guy that's shooting thirty nine percent on 696 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: catch and shoot threes, which sounds a mediocre, right, but 697 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: he's forty seven percent when he's unguarded. When he's open, 698 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: He's knocking that thing down at one of the highest 699 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: clips in the league. He's taken two hundred guarded catch 700 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: and shoot threes this season, only shooting thirty two percent 701 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,719 Speaker 1: on them. But what that's done is it's created a 702 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: reputation for him around the league. That's like, if you 703 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: leave Jalen Julian Champe champagnee at all. He's putting that 704 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: thing up and as a result in the large sample, 705 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: not only is he shooting thirty nine percent on catch 706 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: and shoot threes, which is super efficient in a massive sample, 707 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: but there is a spacing element to him with the 708 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: way that he's guarded that brings a ton of utility 709 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: compared to guys that Like, when you're guarding a dude 710 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: who only wants to shoot when he's got all day, 711 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 1: that gives me, the defensive player, the luxury to be like, 712 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: I can sink in further because all I have to 713 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,800 Speaker 1: do is throw a hard close out and this dude's 714 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,399 Speaker 1: not going to shoot it. Right. So having a dude 715 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: who is a very aggressive spot up shooter in those 716 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 1: situations just brings a ton of value, especially for a 717 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,720 Speaker 1: Spurs team that came into the season in desperate need 718 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: of jump shooting talent. Right, I would argue one of 719 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: the biggest swing factors. There's a lot of things that 720 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: have gone right for the Spurs this year that have 721 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: driven their success. Right, Victor women Yama. I was looking 722 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 1: at a stat yesterday. This is crazy. Someone posted I 723 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: think it was Underdog posted something that was just like 724 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: a list of all the top net ratings in the 725 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 1: league by player, and it was like, I think the 726 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: post said, you know, Sam Preste and Brad Stevens deserve 727 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 1: all the flowers this season. And it's because as you 728 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 1: look through the list, it's like Oka, see Boston, Okay, 729 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: see Boston. Okay, see Boston. Just every one of their 730 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 1: primary role players are like the best net rating guys 731 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 1: in the league this season. There's another name that was 732 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 1: in that mix. There's Victor Wemenyama. There's a bunch of 733 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: Celtics and Thunder players and then there's Victor wemen Yama, 734 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: and I'm literally looking at it and I'm like, I'm like, 735 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: is Victory the best player in the world already? Like 736 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: are we overthinking like all the different elements that we 737 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: look at with superstars and just forgetting the simple fact 738 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: that Victor Womenyama is like a game breaking defensive talent 739 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: that has such a profound impact on the game that 740 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: he is allowed He's literally sticks out like a sore 741 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: thumb on the net rating list at the top of 742 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: the league. That's a conversation for another day, But like 743 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,959 Speaker 1: Victor women Yama is a huge part of the Spurs 744 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: successes here the rise of Steph Castle, right, like the 745 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 1: fit that Luke Cornett has has brought a ton of 746 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 1: positive value as a backup center, as a fill in 747 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 1: for Victor women Yama, two big looks, all the different 748 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 1: things that he's done well. Keldon Johnson has just had 749 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: this like renaissance, as like this boldie ball player that 750 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 1: gets to the basket a ton and is an excellent rebounder. 751 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 1: But I'd argue Julian Champennie and Devin Vessel and their 752 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 1: spot up shooting has been massive for the offensive success 753 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 1: for the Spurs team because of how aggressive they are 754 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,240 Speaker 1: off the catch. And then the last thing with Julian 755 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: the excellent rebounding eight rebounds per thirty six minutes. Again, 756 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: this is on a team that's already pretty big an athletic. 757 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 1: They've got scrappy guards, they've got excellent centers, Like, you 758 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: know how hard it is to get eight rebounds just 759 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: against your teammates in that situation, let alone against the defense, 760 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 1: Like it's just a super super impressive rebound. Him and 761 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,879 Speaker 1: his brother two of my favorite role players in the league. 762 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,879 Speaker 1: I've been begging for the Lakers to make a move 763 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,359 Speaker 1: on Justin CHAMPENNI for years because I just think he's 764 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 1: a guy that he's not as good as a shooter, 765 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 1: not close to as good of a shooter as Julian is, 766 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 1: but the same kind of like versatile athlete that can 767 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,839 Speaker 1: guard multiple positions and is an excellent rebounder on both 768 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 1: ends of the floor. But Julian just being a scrapper 769 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 1: that can rebound, that can guard multiple positions, and a 770 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 1: deadly aggressive spot up shooter has made him literally one 771 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,760 Speaker 1: of the most important role plays in the entire NBA. 772 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 1: And lastly, today before we get out of here, I 773 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 1: got to shout out Luke Canart. You know, not a 774 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: lot of Laker optimism to have in this particular season. 775 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: But one of the things I talked about before the 776 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 1: Luke Canard trade or when Luke Canard trade happened, because 777 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 1: I was looking at the situation and I'm like, okay, done, 778 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,479 Speaker 1: makes sense for them to make move a first round 779 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 1: pick for like an Andrew Wiggins, some guy who's in 780 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: his thirties that doesn't really fit the timeline. Herb Jones 781 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 1: was unavailable, you know, Walker Kessler was unavailable. Like I 782 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 1: could see why they were. You know, making a move 783 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 1: for a guy like Nick Claxton wouldn't have like completely 784 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 1: changed their fortunes for this season. So I could see 785 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: them waiting to the offseason see if they can get 786 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 1: a discount, you know, all the different like big moves 787 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: for the Lakers. I felt it was defensible for them 788 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 1: to pass on because this team isn't good enough. But 789 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 1: if you had to do something on the margins, I 790 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 1: talked about how I loved this move literally because it's 791 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 1: doubling down on your strengths. This team is never going 792 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 1: to be a good defensive team, not in a large sample. 793 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 1: They have different lineups that have done well. Sneaky, the Lebron, 794 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 1: Austin Luca group has like a strong defensive rating this season, 795 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,280 Speaker 1: just something to keep an eye on. They've been especially 796 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 1: as of late, that group has started to pick up 797 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 1: some synergy, a lot of positive lineup data from the 798 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: Lebron Luca, Austin Marcus Smart grouping. Those four guys have 799 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: been really, really good over the course of the last 800 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 1: several weeks. But this team is never going to be 801 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: an elite defensive team. They don't have the personnel for 802 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 1: It's just they don't have their centers aren't good enough, 803 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: their perimeter defenders aren't good enough, their forwards aren't good enough. 804 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 1: Just not gonna happen, right, But they have been an 805 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 1: underwhelming offensive team that should, in theory, be able to 806 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,359 Speaker 1: be an awesome offensive team. So what I liked about 807 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 1: the Luke Canard move is on a team that had 808 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: no spot up talent, that had no very little connective 809 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,760 Speaker 1: playmaking talent off the ball, just not enough offensive skill 810 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 1: off of their stars to actually drive success off of 811 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,919 Speaker 1: the advantages their stars create. I like doubling down on that. Like, yeah, 812 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 1: Luke's not a good defensive player. They've been giving up 813 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 1: like something like one to eighteen point five points per 814 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 1: one hundred possession when he's on the floor. So it's 815 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 1: not like the Lakers are defending well with Luke Canard. 816 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 1: But what he is doing is he's driving an insane 817 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 1: amount of offensive success, and so the Lakers are kicking 818 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 1: ass when Luke Canard's on the floor. So I liked 819 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: the idea of doubling down on that offensive strength with 820 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 1: this team. So one of the things we talked about 821 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 1: after Atlanta is I was concerned about his movement threes. 822 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 1: There was some talk about him being a movement shooter 823 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: for the Lakers. I just don't think he's a good 824 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 1: enough athlete for that. And his release is just a 825 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 1: little too far down in front of his face. So 826 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 1: I never really looked at him as a movement shooter, 827 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,240 Speaker 1: and that's shown so far. He wasn't a good movement 828 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,720 Speaker 1: shooter in Atlanta this season off of handoffs, off screen actions, 829 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: transition threes, slipping out of ball screens. Just four for 830 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,439 Speaker 1: fifteen on those threes. So that's not a strength for him. 831 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 1: But this guy is a completely ridiculous spot up player. 832 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: He's twelve for sixteen on spot up threes, right, so 833 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 1: just seventy five percent, just absolutely down. He's gonna shoot 834 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: seventy five percent on them all season. No, but like 835 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 1: he's going to be well over fifty percent on his 836 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 1: spot up, catch and shoot threes. That is where he's 837 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 1: arguably the very best shooter in the league at that 838 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,359 Speaker 1: very specific thing. You leave him open, he's gonna hit 839 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 1: the shot. That's why he's been leading the league in 840 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,360 Speaker 1: three point percentage this year. But I actually want to 841 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 1: emphasize his ability to capitalize on closeouts and in general, 842 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 1: on the advantage that his stars create in the inside 843 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 1: a three point line area, whether it's driving closeouts and 844 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 1: getting all the way to the rim, back cutting over 845 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 1: plays and getting all the way to the rim, driving 846 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 1: closeouts and hitting little mid range jump shots, driving closeouts 847 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 1: and making the next read in that chain. And there's 848 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,799 Speaker 1: just an insane set of numbers that have come out 849 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 1: of this because of his ability to do that from 850 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 1: two point range. So before we go any further, I 851 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 1: have to hit the stat when Luke Kenard is on 852 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 1: the floor, the Lakers are outscoring opponents by seven points 853 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 1: per one hundred possessions. He's immediately come in and just 854 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: whenever he's on the floor, they're just better. And it's 855 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 1: literally because they're scoring when he's on the floor one 856 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five points per one hundred possessions and 857 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 1: almost five hundred possession sample so far. That's doubling down 858 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 1: on your strengths, becoming an elite offense, right. But Luke, 859 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 1: when he drives those closeouts, when he creates it, when 860 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: he capitalizes on the advantage inside the three point line, 861 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:17,359 Speaker 1: here are some insane stats for you. Gabe Vincent all 862 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 1: season in twenty nine games, made just three shots at 863 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 1: the rim. This is the guy you traded for. Luke 864 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 1: Canard just three shots at the rim in twenty nine 865 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:31,359 Speaker 1: games that he made. Luke Canard is sixteen already. How 866 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,920 Speaker 1: insane is that sixteen made shots at the rim on 867 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 1: seventy six percent shooting in just eleven games compared to 868 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:45,760 Speaker 1: three for Gabe Vincent. He's nine for fourteen on jump 869 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 1: shots inside the three point line. He's he has three 870 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 1: times as many made twos inside the three point line 871 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 1: then Gave Vincent had made layups this season. If you 872 00:41:55,840 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 1: connect connect all of them together, Gabe Vincent all season 873 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,320 Speaker 1: in twenty nine games had just seven made two pointers, 874 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 1: four mid range jump shots slash floaters in three shots 875 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 1: at the rim. Luke has twenty five made twos already 876 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,839 Speaker 1: in eleven games. Then there's the connective playmaking piece, Like 877 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 1: every single time Luke gets into the middle of the 878 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 1: flour and the defense reacts to him, he just makes 879 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 1: the right rate help off the wing. There's a swing 880 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,360 Speaker 1: pass out to the wing, another close out opportunity for 881 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 1: someone to attack, like, oh, you step up with your 882 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 1: big He's actually like sneaky good at like lob passes 883 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:31,799 Speaker 1: and drop off passes. So he can like set up 884 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,320 Speaker 1: dunks and has set up like Jackson Hayes for dunks 885 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 1: and different little like easy twos at the rim where 886 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 1: you can just make simple decisions there. He in once 887 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: again just eleven games, has twenty two assists. Gabe Vincent 888 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 1: thirty seven assists in twenty nine total games, so almost 889 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:51,320 Speaker 1: double the assist rate for Luke Canard in his short sample. 890 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,360 Speaker 1: It's a big part of why he's already become one 891 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,760 Speaker 1: of the Lakers' best plus minus guys. They were plus 892 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,799 Speaker 1: sixteen last night in twenty one minutes with Lukenard on 893 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,359 Speaker 1: the floor minus Evan with him off the floor. Are 894 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 1: the Lakers going anywhere? No. But one of the things 895 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 1: that I think has been a bright spot in the 896 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 1: season is a very small little move on the margins 897 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,719 Speaker 1: for an offensive strength on a team that should have 898 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,720 Speaker 1: been so much better offensively than they were. It's paying dividends, 899 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 1: and it's just a casual reminder that your value is 900 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,799 Speaker 1: useless in a vacuum. Your value is what you bring 901 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,880 Speaker 1: to your basketball team. And Luke Canard brings things to 902 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,719 Speaker 1: this basketball team that they don't have, and it's allowing 903 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 1: them to reach a level on offense that they really 904 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 1: haven't reached at any point this season. All right, guys, 905 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 1: It's all I have for today is always to sincerely 906 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,320 Speaker 1: appreciate you guys for supporting us and supporting the show. 907 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,359 Speaker 1: We'll be back tomorrow with the breakdown of that incredible 908 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 1: Nicks Thunder matchup that we have on the Slate tonight. 909 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 1: I will see you guys then,