1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,599 Speaker 1: Am with a hole for telling my wife it's time 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: she went back to work. Damn mama, we'll be bringing 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: them dollars. 4 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 2: Maybe she needs to. 5 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 3: Well, that's better than saying go back to the kitchen, 6 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 3: go back to work. Progressive times have change. 7 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: Too, And this is the answer the question what harsh 8 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: truice should you tell your partner? By the way, if 9 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: you're watching this episode, you know we're live every weekday 10 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: at three pm. All Live. 11 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 2: Come it over, Get it to the YouTube. 12 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,639 Speaker 1: This comes from Georgia Power, who says my wife has 13 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,279 Speaker 1: been out of work since twenty nineteen. She had a 14 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: mental breakdown during her fifth year of teaching. She has 15 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: been going to therapy since, and we started marriage counseling 16 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 1: during COVID. Reason for marriage counseling was she thought I 17 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: was pushing her too hard to go back to work 18 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: before her and her therapist thought she was ready. 19 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: I tried to. 20 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: Explain many times that was not my intent, but realistically speaking, 21 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: for me to keep up with expenses in retirement contributions, 22 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: I pretty much have to take extra shifts. 23 00:00:59,480 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: Sometime. 24 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: I clock in over eighteen hours a day. Wow, that's 25 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,919 Speaker 1: a lot, and on average have been pulling eighty four 26 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: hour weeks. 27 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: That's a lot of hours. 28 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 3: How is that possible? 29 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 2: I mean, it's possible, possible, But. 30 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 3: Like eighteen hours, that gives you roughly six hours of sleep. 31 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 2: That's it. That's all you need. You don't need any more. 32 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 3: Yes you do, Yes, you do need. 33 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 2: You need a live outside of that, No you don't. 34 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 2: That's been that's where That's where this guy is at. 35 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 2: That guy you. 36 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: New twenty four to seven livestream Future Riley. Riley never 37 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: goes to sleep from the chair. Hey, guys, just drinking 38 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: all the energy drinks in the world. He just has 39 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: like like an ivy into his pains. 40 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 41 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: I've been doing this since she stopped working five years ago. 42 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: She started working five years ago. 43 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: He's been doing this since she stopped working five years ago. 44 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: So he's been working eighty four hour weeks on average 45 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 1: for five years. 46 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: Bro is he doing? Is he doing weekends too? Or 47 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: just weekdays? Dude? 48 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: I mean with eighty four hours in a in a 49 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: work week would be I don't know, I don't even 50 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: know what's worse. So that would be sixty hours a day, 51 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: five days a week. 52 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 2: So it's possible, it's Fine's complaining about sixteen hour days. Also, 53 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 2: I wonder what he. 54 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 3: Does and if you work more, doesn't that put you 55 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 3: in a worse tax bracket and basically you're losing money? 56 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly true. What is this lodgic? I'm surrounded by 57 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 2: rocks the shout out of the last episode. 58 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: We recently had a fight because I had an extremely 59 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: rough week and had the conversation again about her going 60 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: back to work. She opened up with the same line 61 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: she always does. We do not feel it's the right time. 62 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: Yet she feels I have made great progress and if 63 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 1: I rush it, I run the risk. 64 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: Of losing it. Five years, run the risk of losing 65 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 2: what progress? Motion? Progress, progress? That's that's that's dumb. 66 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: The we being her and her therapist. I told her, 67 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 1: I really don't give an Oh what are we as it? Oh? Oh? 68 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 2: I said, the progress of the Yes? Yes, five years, Bro, 69 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 2: five years of therapy and you can't go back to work. 70 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: Come on, what, dude, Bro is breaking his back trying 71 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: to provide for you? 72 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 2: No, dude, I mean she needs to go provide for herself. Yeah. Actually, 73 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 2: real quick, Riley, divorce, Is this okay? 74 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 3: Is this okay? 75 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: Work? Work? Eighty four? Hours a week just to make 76 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 2: ends meet for the two of you. You are a 77 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 2: proud for rider. 78 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, but she's still working. See, 79 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 3: I think both parties should work. Yeah, once for fun 80 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 3: and once for like the house though, Like, oh, we 81 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 3: get to do fun stuff with your money or my 82 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 3: money and the other one's life. 83 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: Right, there's some sort of contribution from from both ends, 84 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: assuming one person isn't like the billionaire or whatever. 85 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean I'd be okay my partner didn't work, 86 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 3: as long as she's got her own thing happening, like 87 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 3: she's pursuing something. 88 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, exact interest, Yes, totally. 89 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: I told her I don't really give an f what 90 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: a therapist has to say, and I'm sick of you 91 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: hiding behind her words whenever this topic comes up. 92 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 2: She started to. 93 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: Cry, telling me she does not like she does not 94 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: like being this way either, and I am belittling her 95 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: due to suffering from mental health issues, I replied, saying 96 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: I do not I do not intend to belittle you 97 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: or not take your issues seriously. Problem is I am 98 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: running myself ragged and what happens if I have a 99 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: mental break? 100 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 2: Dude? Yeah, dude, hours a week for five years all 101 00:04:58,120 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 2: the moneys. 102 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: Dude, do you I think I will have the luxury 103 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: of not working. No, I will have to push you 104 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: in my demons. That's another great point. It's like, hey, 105 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 1: if I wanted to do the same thing, I cannot 106 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: do this. You're able to do this. 107 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 2: I wonder how much she's also like so like she's 108 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 2: contributing nothing to the household incompany? How much he how 109 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 2: much is he taking up? Like how much is she spending? 110 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: It sounds like she's in therapy a lot, which is 111 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: not cheap, not cheap, and that therapist doesn't want to 112 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: lose a well paying client. 113 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 2: Problem. You couldn't possibly stop, you'll lose progress. Conspiracy theory. Yeah, 114 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 2: I think I think the therapist is in on it. 115 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: She said. 116 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: Her therapist warned her this would happen sooner or later. 117 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: I would try to manipulate her into doing something she 118 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: was not ready to do. 119 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 2: Too. This is a terrible therapist. Oh, this is a 120 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 2: terrible therapist. 121 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: Also, therapists are supposed to not tell you what to do, 122 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: but just like help you figure out what you personally 123 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: feel about something. So this is the therapist being like, 124 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: watch out, he's gonna manipulate. You don't let him get 125 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: you to go back to work. That's the therapist telling 126 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: her to do something. 127 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 2: So she can keep her job. 128 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: Yup, This is when I really lost it and just 129 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: let it all out. I did not say anything kind. 130 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: I told her, she insults me for thinking what I 131 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: am doing is manipulation. I told her, I am working 132 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: these extra sifts so she can be home and bs 133 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: playing games. I told her this entire. 134 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 2: Two playing games like Fortnite and stuff. I think she's like, 135 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 2: he's like the metaphor mental games. Yes, I told her 136 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 2: this entire time, you have not even made an effort 137 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 2: to improve on certain skills. I told her she can 138 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 2: still not cook to save her life, and that I 139 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 2: was sick of coming home after twelve to eighteen hour 140 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 2: days just to make us dinner. Because her eyes, he's 141 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 2: making dinner too. What she must be like a beast 142 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 2: in the sack or something, because like this person is 143 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 2: providing nothing to the relationship. 144 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and her idea of making dinner is pretty much 145 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: a pre made in the oven or ordering out meal, 146 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: among other things. That said, she stormed out of the house, crying, yelling, 147 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: and shouting how I'm a piece of crap and rather 148 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: see myself comfortable versus her getting better. 149 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 2: But what is she doing? He does not sound very comfortable. 150 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 2: He's he's working eighteen hour days, he's having and then 151 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 2: he's having to cook them dinner. 152 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: Dinner just to not have like a prepackaged or like 153 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: tap to. They don't have kids, right, it's no kids 154 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: that we know of so far here, I am. I 155 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: do not feel at the core I am wrong. And 156 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: while what I said was harsh, I think it did 157 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: have to be said. So reddit was I the a 158 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: hole here? And I'm going to take a break, right 159 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: here's a nice little break in the story. Yep, First 160 00:07:56,080 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: we should answer, so yeah, do we do we think 161 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: OPI is the a hole here? 162 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 2: No? I mean, oh, but like I all just think 163 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 2: about it for preservation of what's going on right now. 164 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 2: If OP has a mental break, OP, he will not 165 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 2: be able to work and then their lifestyle is done. 166 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 2: So I think OP is getting to that point where 167 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 2: he's like I am, I am feeling the effects of 168 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 2: the last five years. They're catching up to me. I 169 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 2: don't know how much longer I can do this. I 170 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 2: need a break, And he's like asking for a little 171 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 2: bit of support and she's giving nothing. Dude, He's giving nothing. 172 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: Eighty hours a week for five years is absolutely insane. Yeah, 173 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: absolutely insane and so insane. And the fact I don't 174 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: know like and not not even like cooking dinner or 175 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: doing it seems like anything thoughtful for him. It seems 176 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: like he's bringing everything to the table. 177 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 2: And I would feel like, do you even love me? Yeah? 178 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 2: Do you even love me? 179 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: Like you're literally doing nothing to care for me. And 180 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: I am providing everything. I'm providing the home cooked meals, 181 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: I'm providing like all of the funding of our lifestyle. 182 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: And it's like, I think there's something big to be said. 183 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: It's like the idle mind is the devil's playground or whatever. 184 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: I feel like, when you're doing nothing, it can just 185 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: like make you sad and like the like. 186 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 2: Not when I sit in bed, I am more sad. Yeah, 187 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 2: I need to like go, Like I went surfing this morning, dude, 188 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 2: went surfing this morning. I was listening to Louis Armstrong 189 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 2: while I was putting all my wet suit. 190 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: Nothing better. We need to do a morning surf sash 191 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 1: by the Would you like to go serving? 192 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah I did. I went surfing. Well, I have COVID, 193 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 2: no way. Yeah, I would love to go surfing. Yeah, yeah, 194 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 2: it would be super fun. And I play chess afterwards. 195 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 2: If you always play some chess too, teach me. Yeah. 196 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 2: I don't know how I got you. I got you. 197 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 2: I was playing with Anthony this morning. Dude, great bless 198 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 2: I'm there for it. But like I think, like, like 199 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 2: that is the kind of stuff that you need to 200 00:09:55,600 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 2: do to create some mental sanctity. If you're like just 201 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 2: chilling at home, like playing video games all day and 202 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 2: not not doing anything that like really stimulates you or 203 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 2: is like saying like somewhat active. Maybe playing video games 204 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 2: could be okay if you're like talking with your friends 205 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 2: and stuff, but like if you're if you're if you're 206 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 2: just like a passive uh uh like person, you're like 207 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 2: making any active decisions, it's gonna be gonna be sad. Yeah. 208 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: I think I think people need kind of a thing 209 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: to kind of do, and that like Behoof's like all right, 210 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: I'm doing this, and then it's like okay, the therapy 211 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: and like the other work. I feel like it all 212 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: kind of coincides together. And he's seemingly doing nothing but 213 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: nothing yeah, and going to therapy unless the head gag crazy, 214 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: unless the head game crazy. 215 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 2: That's that's not nothing. That's not nothing. That is something. 216 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 2: That is something, but not enough. 217 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: But anyways, let's get out of hopie. So hey, I 218 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: appreciate the applies. Going to have a quick update to 219 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: answer and clarify what I can't Apologies if I miss something, 220 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: thank you. Nonetheless, Yes, I have been to a couple 221 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: sessions with my wife antitherapist. To be honest, it largely 222 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: felt like I was getting ganged up on my wife. 223 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: My wife brought up how I was always tired. 224 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 2: No crap, he's working at eighteen hour days, so I explained, 225 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 2: I am working harder to maintain our home. Even outside 226 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 2: of maintaining the home. He's working till eighteen hours, even 227 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 2: outside of cooking dinner for you. 228 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: And lets be honest, if you're working a twelve to 229 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 1: eighteen hour job, seems like he's working more hourly pay. 230 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: That's probably not like the VP out of no software company. 231 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 2: This is like it's not like they're like saving probably 232 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 2: too much. 233 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is probably like probably a hard demanding job. 234 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 2: I'm guessing. 235 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: When I suggested part time work would allow me to 236 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: work less. Their counter suggestion was to cut things like 237 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: saving for retirement and hold up on paying off debt 238 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 1: and tackle such things after my wife gets better. Five 239 00:11:58,280 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: years is enough time. 240 00:11:59,360 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 2: Then, I said. 241 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 1: Renting out the house to cover the mortgage and we 242 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: downsized to an apartment. 243 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 2: Is like, all right, you need to do that. Let's solutions. 244 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 2: That is nothing but solutions. But what does she say 245 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 2: or therapist? Wow? 246 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 1: Her therapist said such a drastic change to her environment 247 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:20,359 Speaker 1: could have a negative impact on her depression and advises 248 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 1: against such major life change. 249 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 2: Screw this therapist. Oh who is this a therapist? Oh, 250 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 2: they have my license. They don't have the okay story timeline? 251 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: Not at all, Not at all, dude, Do we need 252 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: to create a therapy license to save the therapy game? 253 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 2: We got to f up the game. Let's freaking by 254 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 2: could make one. 255 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 3: Oh do you guys see the job post I made? 256 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 2: No you didn't, No, Oh I did? Yes, the one 257 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 2: you made in canvas. 258 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: During another session, she brought up how my suggestion she 259 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: tries cooking to save is money, so we don't, so 260 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: we do not order as much basic I think. In 261 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: another time, she was like, hey, let me like, do 262 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: the pre made meals and like order in so we're 263 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 1: saving time and money. She felt insulted because in terms 264 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: of money coming in, I am making slightly more than 265 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 1: our combined income and she was able to cover her expenses. 266 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: So she does not understand why we are having such 267 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: a hard time. So she doesn't know why we're having 268 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: so okay. Oh, back in the day when she was working, 269 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: she was like, hey, I could I could cover my stuff? 270 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 2: Like, what's what's going on here? 271 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: I was honest, it has less to do with money 272 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: per se, and more so the fact the amount of 273 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: hours I have to work to maintain the income. I 274 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: told her, I pretty much am working two full time jobs. 275 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, the cooking or doing things around the house. 276 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: Was dropped fairly quickly and became a critic on how 277 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: I cannot manage money since I am making more. Yet 278 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 1: I never had issues when she was working with how 279 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 1: she spent. 280 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 2: So she said, hey, it's not that you're not making enough, 281 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 2: you're just spending it too poorly. Yeah, you're like not 282 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 2: a good money manager. What I mean, what are they 283 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 2: spending money on? 284 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: I mean probably like the whole the whole rent of 285 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: the place from. 286 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 2: What it's not mismanaging money. No, No, I think she 287 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 2: is going to like the gambling ring. Yeah, I think 288 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 2: she's making an excuse. 289 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: It sounds like they were at least splitting somewhat the 290 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: expenses before when they both had a job that that 291 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: was reaching kind of even equilibrium. 292 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 2: More or less. 293 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: Every session became what I could do to help my 294 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: wife and I and I get it. Her therapist has 295 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: to look out for my wife, and generally my concerns 296 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: are small compared to my wife's. 297 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 2: My wife is not a huge. 298 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: Fan of our Wait, my wife is not a huge 299 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: fan of our marriage counselor because she offers suggestions that 300 00:14:53,760 --> 00:15:00,119 Speaker 1: go against her therapist, like maybe contribute. 301 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 3: I'm seeing that the therapist is like soothing her here 302 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 3: and being like this is what you need to hear, 303 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 3: rather than like the hard truth. 304 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 2: I'm feeling divorced right now. I'm thinking, like, get a 305 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 2: new therapist. But people are so attached to the therapists. 306 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: And this to me, five years of like it's not 307 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: even the helping years of this, it's not. 308 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 2: It's like the the no respect care or love to 309 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 2: try to do anything, and being like how long have 310 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 2: they been married? 311 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's it's it's been five years since she 312 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: quit the job in this All Star, so they'd being in. 313 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 2: A relationship for longer than five years. 314 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 3: All we have is a five Like in twenty nineteen 315 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 3: she was on that's all we have. 316 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 2: How old are they? Do? We know? 317 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 3: No ages? 318 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 2: No ages at a minimum. They've been in a relationship 319 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 2: for five years and they are married. Yeah, I wonder, 320 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 2: I'm I feel like five years is a really long time. 321 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 2: This is this is the new status quo of your relationship. 322 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 2: So if you're not okay with that, you probably should 323 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 2: get out of it. 324 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 3: Later on, he says, I'm not even thirty yet. 325 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 2: Oh wow, so like they probably have they probably this 326 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 2: probably is the majority of their marriage that it's been 327 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 2: like this. Oh yes, oh yes, yeah they're not like fifty. Yeah, 328 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 2: they're not fifty. I think divorce, man, you should have 329 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 2: divorced a couple of years ago. 330 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: I told after one year of uh this crazy crazy, 331 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: Stacey says she wants to be. 332 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 2: A trad wife. What oh a tradwife, like a stay 333 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 2: at home traditional wife. 334 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: And it's like, yeah, well he's literally working eighty hours 335 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: a week to attempt to like. 336 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 2: Being a trad wife. It is not you know, just 337 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 2: sit on your butt the whole day, Like if you're 338 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 2: really talking about being a tradwife, it's like making amazing meals, 339 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 2: cleaning that chickens to make, chicken raising chickens, back massage. 340 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 2: I don't know, that's like the cliche, like the stereotocial. 341 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 1: Mad yeah, yeah, yeah, the meme the me My friend 342 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: has also suggested I speak with a lawyer to see 343 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: exactly what my options are. After reading many of the 344 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 1: comments and thinking back on everything, I think I am 345 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 1: going to do that. I love my wife and I 346 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: know she is sick, but I am good to know 347 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: one if I keep up this pace and there's a 348 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,479 Speaker 1: final ed up, but super quick before we get into that. Also, 349 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: what exactly is the mental health diagnosis? Maybe OP is 350 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: not sharing that for like anonymity or like other reasons. 351 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like it's like depression. Well no, 352 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 2: I think there was mention of it wouldn't be helpful 353 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 2: for her depression for her to be moved, so like 354 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 2: it's I think it's depression, but you know, like get 355 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 2: gets some in five years, it hasn't done anything. I mean, 356 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 2: like I don't think that means that she deserves to 357 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 2: burden him with like eighty hours a week to support 358 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 2: her for that. I don't think that that means that 359 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 2: at all. But we have a final edit. Ladies and gentlemen, 360 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 2: thank you so much for the replies and advice. It 361 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 2: was a slow morning, only had one field call, so 362 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 2: I was looking over this thread with a colleague and 363 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 2: a close friend. After talking, I decided to put in 364 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 2: a request for a two week vacation, Thank god. 365 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: During that time, I'm going to relax, my friends, play 366 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: some Balder's Gate three, and also get my crap together nice. 367 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to speak with the lawyer and see what 368 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: my options are. Because I was young and dumb, and 369 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: much of her debt is mine because I co signed 370 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: and have a joint account. 371 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 2: No is actually mismanaging the money. No, no, no, dude, 372 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 2: Oh I wonder how much debt it is? I'm saying nothing. 373 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 2: Do you have to disclose your debt before you get married? 374 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 2: Am I getting married to someone they have like one 375 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars a debt? 376 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: No? I you know what's I think it's I think, 377 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: at least in America, there's some sort of joining of 378 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 1: the or responsibility that comes together, and I don't know 379 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: that you have to tell them and inform them because 380 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: we've had stories where where. 381 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 2: Like you didn't get suddenly find out Riley, if you're 382 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 2: if you had a girlfriend that had a million dollars 383 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 2: of debt, would you still marry or and you're inheriting 384 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 2: that debt? You are inheriting that debt million dollars. 385 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 3: Not no, not a girlfriend. No love of my life. 386 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. It's the love of your life. 387 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 2: You stive your life. But like do you need to 388 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 2: get like what do you get married on paper? Still? 389 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 2: Just maybe not? Yeah? 390 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love of my life. I'd do it. I'd 391 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 3: be like, all right, let's do it. 392 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: But would you would you not? Like you could even 393 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: like have the ceremony, say you're married, but not legally 394 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: be right where the rings like do everything? Oh, but 395 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: would you not get legally married? So you're not love 396 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: my life? I'd still do it, Yeah, still. 397 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 2: Get legally married. But that could like instead of just 398 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 2: crippling one person, it would cripple both of you. 399 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 3: But I make money moves to be on that. 400 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 2: But then you could just pay her, you could just 401 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 2: pay you don't you could still pay. 402 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: You could still pay her, but you wouldn't be legally 403 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: obligated to it. 404 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 2: If she left you or whatever happens. 405 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 3: I'll be like, hey, I'll have been married off, but 406 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 3: I ain't gonna be dealing with this whole debt thing 407 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 3: if you leave me. But I guess my question was like, 408 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 3: are you going to have a prenup before you guys 409 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 3: get married to know, because I think you know how 410 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 3: many were both making how much debt? Are we also in? 411 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, so have it? 412 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: So still get legally married all that, but have a 413 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: prenup of like, hey, you can't just like saddle me 414 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: with this debt and death. 415 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 2: Dude, debt is crazy. I mean it's like, oh man, 416 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,479 Speaker 2: I would that that would be crazy to like get 417 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 2: married to someone and it's like, hey, by the way, 418 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 2: I have a million dollars in debt. 419 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: So Opie says, I will go to the doctor for 420 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: the first time in four years and makes sense. Everything 421 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: is still working as it should during this time. My friend, Yeah, 422 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm. 423 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 2: It feels like a wiener thing. Yeah, I feel like 424 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 2: getting he's getting ready to get back out there. 425 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: During this time, my friend said, I could crash at 426 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 1: their place, So I am going to take him up 427 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: on that offer. This will be my final post here though, 428 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: going over this, I made this post for all the 429 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 1: wrong reasons. There is something that this is something that 430 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: should not have been posted publicly, and I was petty 431 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 1: for that. Even so, I thank everyone because a lot 432 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: of what you said was what I needed to hear. 433 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: I do not have much in terms of family. Both 434 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: my parents have passed away. Thank you for the tough love. 435 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: Something has to change, and if my wife is unable, 436 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: I have to do it. I am young. I should 437 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: be enjoying my life. I am not even thirty years 438 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: old yet. As my friend said, I aged so much 439 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: in these last five years. It is scary. My friend 440 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: showed me pictures from before all of this happened. I 441 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: want to go back to the person I was then 442 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 1: stress a killer dress, a row aged like the Presidency 443 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: during Yeah, this is what I was gonna say. I 444 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: agree I was the a hole for what I said, 445 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: but I do not regret it. It was a wake 446 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 1: up call I needed. That is the end of the story. 447 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: Really quick. I want to ask specifically when he kind 448 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 1: of like wrung her out and was like just told 449 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: her what's what and basically kind of had like a 450 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: screaming match with her. 451 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 2: Do you think he was the a hole for that? 452 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 2: I mean it was it a screaming match. He was 453 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 2: yelling at her, and I think she was yelling back. 454 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 2: But like it like kind of distraught, and I'll pull 455 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 2: up some of the lines that he had said explicitly. 456 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 3: For it's five years of working that long, so much anger, resentment, 457 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 3: and he probably doesn't even have time to go to 458 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 3: therapy and figure this out. 459 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yelling is never I think you're an 460 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 2: a whole if you yell. But like I I I 461 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 2: understand that he was at a breaking point, but I 462 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 2: don't think it like excuses. Yeah, that's that's true. I 463 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 2: don't think I excuses ever. But I like, like, literally, 464 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 2: she's killing him. 465 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: It's really bad, and like, honestly, what's crazy is uh? 466 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: In past stories, I think the sentiment of like, oh, 467 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: sometimes you like kind of need to get a little frustrated. 468 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 1: If that's what we'll get the messages sent through, because 469 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: it isn't she still doesn't even get the message. 470 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, But I also I don't agree with that, Like 471 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 2: I think actually yelling and Screaming almost always has the 472 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 2: opposite intention of what you're trying to communicate. 473 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 1: Because you could say, I'm I'm going to leave the relationship. Yeah, 474 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: that's a very serious thing. You can say what you're 475 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: gonna do. You can have real consequences. But yelling, like 476 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: I think yelling and screaming is, is not real consequences. 477 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: It's like it's uncontrolled emotion. It shows that you have 478 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: uncontrolled emotion, but I don't think it actually leads to 479 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: like res illusions that are helpful. And Op was like, 480 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: that was an f up and that was my bat. 481 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: I think he is taking accountability and ownership, but also 482 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: saying the sentiment and basically what I was communicating was 483 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: true that like I should not have to be doing this, 484 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: and like you're and your therapist are just like letting 485 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 1: you kind of like freeload and kind of like on 486 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: my back, you know, breaking my back to make sure 487 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: you can just kind of live how you want. 488 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. I hope I hope this. I hope this, Uh, 489 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 2: this vacation gives OP like the clarity and distance he 490 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 2: needs me too. 491 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: And you know, I hope that people that are watching 492 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: the end of the story lock our profile to join 493 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: us live because we're live right now. 494 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 2: What the heck, Go go check this, go check it out. 495 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 2: Please join us, But you know what we're gonna go into. 496 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 2: What this next story? All right, let's go