1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast Today. I want to 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: get into something that is affecting Michigan, but it could 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: affect every single one of you, and you may not 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: even know that this is happening. But we have these organizations. 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: You've heard me talk about them before, and we talked 6 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: about the Woke to PUS and this is kind of 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: like an extension of that because there are these outside 8 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: groups we call them, that come into states. They don't 9 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: necessarily have anything to do with the state or people 10 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 1: that live there, but they try to pass these radical 11 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,919 Speaker 1: agendas that they want to pass across the country, and 12 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: they got Michigan on one of these. It's called one 13 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,319 Speaker 1: Fair Wage. It always sounds lovely. That's the other thing 14 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: about it. They always name them something phenomenal, and everybody's like, yes, 15 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: of course, I would love one fair wage. Why would 16 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 1: I not agree to this. So in Michigan's case, they 17 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: came into our state. They wanted to put a ballot 18 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: initiative on the ballot. They went around and they talked 19 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: to people about signing, because you have to have a 20 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: massive amount of signatures. So they went out and they 21 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: gathered signatures and they said wouldn't you like to see 22 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: everybody have at least thirteen dollars an hour or more? 23 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 1: And of course people were like, yeah, why wouldn't I Yes, 24 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: I will sign up for that. Well, ultimately, once you 25 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: get into the fine print of the ballot proposal which 26 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: did pass in Michigan in twenty eighteen, a lot of 27 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: really negative effects happen because of this. And so the 28 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: best person I thought I could bring on today is 29 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: Michigan State Representative Bill Shooty to come and talk about 30 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: what happened in Michigan, but from a national standpoint of 31 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: what could happen to all of us. So Rep. Bill 32 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: shooting thank you so much for being on today. 33 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 2: Awesome, dude, I really appreciate the opportunity to talk with you. 34 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 2: And you're right. Attempt by groups like One Fair Wage 35 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 2: to try and take what is a failed economic model 36 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 2: of states like you know, California that have really driven 37 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 2: population away from their state, driven up costs, trying to 38 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 2: import that into Michigan is the wrong model. But they're 39 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 2: trying to hear yet again. 40 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: So to break this down a little bit for people 41 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: to totally understand what they came in and said is 42 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: we're going to have this one wage and the idea 43 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: and paid time off, so they this affects wages and 44 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: paid time off, and they made this sound beautiful like, oh, 45 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: there are people that are being discriminated against in restaurants 46 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: and they should have minimum wage. Now, I don't know 47 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: your experience, but my experience and I've talked to several 48 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: servers across the entire state of Michigan. They are devastated 49 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: by this. They are scared to death because they have 50 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: the wage. And then my understanding, you can correct me 51 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, is that they have their wage of 52 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: I think it's four dollars and one cent per hour 53 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: and then tips, and then if they don't get the 54 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: tips to get them to minimum wage, the restaurant makes 55 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: them whole. But our servers are telling me some of 56 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: them make eighty to one hundred to more per hour 57 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: because of tips. And if they are then beholden to 58 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: this minimum wage, they're a minimum wage worker and this 59 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: is devastating to them. 60 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely, And really, what one Fair Wage did here 61 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: is just layers of really bad policy and shows the 62 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 2: infiltration of the left into different aspects of advocacy in 63 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 2: our state politics. So in twenty eighteen. You're exactly right. 64 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: They went around collected all these signatures, telling people, well, 65 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 2: do you want to raise the minimum wage and do 66 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 2: you want to guarantee six time for employees? Most people 67 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 2: would say yeah, raising the minimum wage, understand why some 68 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 2: would want to do that. Guaranteed sick time, understand why 69 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: they'd want to do that. But the devil is in 70 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: the details and in the ballot language, and this massive 71 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: document that they were telling people to sign included things 72 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 2: like eliminating the tip credit. And by eliminating the tip credit, 73 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: you're basically robbing servers of their hard earned tips, which 74 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 2: are income that helps them pay for their children's education, 75 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 2: balance their family budget, and it's incredibly detrimental. We've heard 76 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 2: from hundreds of restaurants servers across Michigan talking about how 77 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 2: damaging one Fair Wagees you know initiative would be would 78 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 2: be to their bottom lines. And then on the sick 79 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 2: time portion of it, you know, already more than eighty 80 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 2: percent of small businesses in the state of Michigan provides 81 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: some form of paid time off and guaranteed sick times, 82 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 2: so most workers are already having opportunities to receive that 83 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 2: type of leave. What One Fair Wage wants to do 84 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: is so that every employee, your first day on the job, 85 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: you get three days of no call, no show, attendance 86 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 2: in your job. And imagine, you know, you're a nine 87 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 2: to one one dispatcher and you get off your twenty 88 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 2: four hour shift and then the person who's supposed to, 89 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 2: you know, replace you, does a no call, no show 90 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 2: and doesn't show up. You're trying to go to the 91 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: emergency room and the doctor that you're hoping takes care 92 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 2: of you is no call, no showing. That's really detrimental, 93 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 2: and that's what One Fair Wage wants to put in 94 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: place in the state of Michigan. 95 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: Well, so I heard this. I mean it goes even 96 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: beyond that. So on Monday night we went to I 97 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: guess I would say it was kind of like a 98 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: not a rally, but a couple of our restaurant owners 99 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: had a town meeting where they had at town hall. 100 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: They had five legislators there and all of the restaurants 101 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 1: but also local small businesses came because of the paid 102 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: time off situation. They're all outraged. You know, how could 103 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: this happen? To your point, Like I think about our 104 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: foundry and I mean we had a situation where oftentimes 105 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: you would have someone no call, no show, and to 106 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: be honest with you, in that situation, it is hard 107 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: to find workers. The workers have a much better They're 108 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: in a much better position than I think they ever 109 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: have been in this country because the employers really have 110 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: to cater to the workers. And we've seen this even 111 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: more so in the recent years. I mean I even 112 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: went to a chamber meeting where the chamber was like, Hey, 113 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: you've got to accommodate what your workers want. Some of 114 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: them want to come in at ten am. You have 115 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: to accommodate that. And it has created a challenge for 116 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: workers or for players. But I think about the foundry. 117 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: I would have on one molding line, I would have 118 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: three guys running the molding line. If I have two 119 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: guys no call, no show for three days in a row, 120 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: that molding line doesn't run. If that molding line doesn't run, 121 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: you have guys that are affected all across the foundry 122 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 1: because you've got the you can't melt the metal, you 123 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: can't pour the metal, you can't finish the castings. The 124 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: whole thing slows down. You've got customers that are in trouble. 125 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 1: You've got fines if you've got military contracts, so you're 126 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: racking up fines. This is an impossible way to run 127 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: a small business. But also it goes beyond that. So 128 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: obviously you have situations where you have no call, no show, 129 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: you fill them in, you work around it. But this 130 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 1: is saying for three days you can call, no show, 131 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: and the business is it has no presumption of innocence 132 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: if they fire you. So if you fire this person, 133 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: they can come back and sue you and win. 134 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, with and they'll probably hire some out of state 135 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 2: far left attorneys from from California to do so in 136 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 2: a class action lawsuit. And it's uh, and you you 137 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 2: hit the point exactly right, tutor, in that you know 138 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 2: the one group's like one fair wage. They want to say, oh, 139 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 2: this is your your c suite executives versus the working people, 140 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 2: and know everybody hurts. The people who get hurt the 141 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 2: most by one Fair Wages initiative are restaurant workers, are 142 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 2: people who are not going to get their hard earned 143 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: you know, tips as part of their income. And the 144 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 2: good employees, the people who want to do the job, 145 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 2: were then hurt by people taking advantage of this system 146 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 2: that one fair wage stacks up. So it's really just 147 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:42,119 Speaker 2: an example of an out of state liberal activist group 148 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 2: hijacking our ballot initiative process and then convincing the state 149 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: Supreme Court to you know, put this into place without 150 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: even going to the voters in the first place. So 151 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 2: it is just again a nefarious nexus of of bad 152 00:07:58,280 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 2: liberal influences in our. 153 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: State guard And this is why you have to be 154 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: super vigilant when you are looking at that ballot, because 155 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: you'll see something on the ballot. It's so hard. This 156 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: is why you have to do the research ahead of time, 157 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: because what you see, that tiny blurb that you see 158 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: on the ballot looks really good. They always make the 159 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: right the text sound really good, and then people vote 160 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: for it and you end up in this situation. And 161 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: we say this because it is not just Michigan. Like 162 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: I said, there's seventeen states on their list, and do 163 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: you think they're stopping at seventeen? That's just what they 164 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: have so far. So they're not stopping. And you're not 165 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: going to get help from the media on this, because 166 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: I was looking up what is the media saying about this, 167 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: and the Detroit Free Press has because you guys have 168 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: proposed an alternative. You're trying to kind of lessen the 169 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: blow here, help out the restaurant owners, and restaurant owners 170 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: and servers across the state have been complaining about this. 171 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: But the thing I get irritated about with these media 172 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: organizations is that they write in here, the House GOP 173 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: proposal would mean nearly one point five million Michigan workers 174 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 1: might not have sick leave. Now again, I go back 175 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: to this is an employees market. Employees are going to 176 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 1: employers and saying, if you aren't giving me the benefits 177 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: I need, then I'm going to go someplace else. And 178 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: right now in Michigan there are jobs available for servers, 179 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 1: but also less jobs for servers jobs in manufacturing, for sure. 180 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: The problem with the tipped wage situation is that the 181 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: restaurants are also concerned they will not make it, and 182 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: their point is like, you can do whatever you want. 183 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: We actually have a clip I want to play one 184 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: of the guys. His name is Ted Arcano. His one 185 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: restaurant is actually right next to where our foundry was. 186 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: He's an awesome guy. He is genuinely one of the 187 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: happiest people, and I just want to preface this by saying, 188 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the meeting that we had at 189 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: his place on Monday, he said, I am an optimist, 190 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: and when you own restaurants, you have to be an optimist. 191 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: Like you have this gear in your head that says, 192 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: at the farm, put it all out there, make people happy. 193 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: And it's this joy in serving people food. And he said, 194 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: I've just lost that because this is so damaging. But 195 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: he was making a point to servers when he said this, 196 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: So I want to play this clip so you can 197 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: hear it and then we'll talk about it. 198 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 3: The staff has the ability themselves to determine their own wage. 199 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 3: Do not look at the government for what you're going 200 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 3: to make every hour. Be far more ambitious to say, 201 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 3: I am not going to look to the government to 202 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 3: determine my minimum wage. I'm going to look at what 203 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 3: is within myself too, with hardware, dedication and prayer to 204 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 3: go and. 205 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 4: Win. 206 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: And I love that because that's the kind of person 207 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: you want to work for, someone who's like, you've got this. 208 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: You can make it big, like you can have a 209 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: lot or you can have a little. It depends on you. 210 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: And his point was not that government has no place 211 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: His point is government should not be in your pocketbook 212 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: and deciding how you make money over the summer. Right 213 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: as this was all coming this is all coming out 214 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: that the Michigan Supreme Court had ruled and that this 215 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 1: was going to go into effect. In February, I was 216 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: at a meeting with probably fifteen of the biggest runch 217 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: restaurant tours across the state of Michigan, and one guy 218 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: at the end of the table he was like, I 219 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: own a lot of high end restaurants. He said, some 220 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: of my servers make two hundred thousand dollars a year, 221 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: and now I have to go to them and say 222 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: you're going to make minimum wage. They can't. They'll leave. 223 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 1: How is this fair? 224 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 2: I mean? 225 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: And that was the question that they kept asking the 226 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: legislators on Monday night. There wasn't really an answer other 227 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: than yeah, it sucks. But that is the question from people, 228 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: how is this fair? How can you do this? 229 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 2: It's not one fair at all right in Michigan. So 230 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 2: it shows you again irony in that group's branding. But 231 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 2: you know again, I think it's that's why we're so 232 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 2: fortunate that we have organizations like the Midwestern or like 233 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 2: the Tutor Dixon podcasts that are trying to cut to 234 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 2: the truth of the matter, because you're you're exactly right. 235 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 2: The proposal laid out by the House Republicans, what it 236 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 2: would do is it would restore the ability of restaurant 237 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 2: workers to keep their tip credits, to keep the tip 238 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 2: credit in place, and for them to continue to keep 239 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 2: their tips. And that's so important because you know, you've 240 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 2: heard from in the committee that I shared dealing with 241 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 2: this legislation. You heard from a server at a Buffalo 242 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 2: Wild Wing saying, on a bad day, I make thirty 243 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,839 Speaker 2: dollars an hour, So you're literally cutting, you know, my 244 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 2: worst hourly wage in half by giving me this one 245 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 2: fair wage. And the Detroit Free Press headline that you mentioned, 246 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 2: I mean, they're completely neglecting the fact that eighty four 247 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 2: percent of small business has already provide some form of 248 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 2: paid time off in sick times. So it's not true 249 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 2: that a million and a half people are going to 250 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 2: lose any time of six times. So we really have 251 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 2: to be forceful in how we're messaging this because it's 252 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 2: going to be a freight train that hammers restaurant workers 253 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 2: and our small businesses if we don't get this through 254 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 2: the legislature by February twenty First. 255 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: Stick around for more with a Tutor Dixon podcast. 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As we were going through this, the 280 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: gentleman who was like, Okay, let me really explain this 281 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: to you, was saying, so, this is seasonal workers get 282 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: this paid time off. This is contractors get this paid 283 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: time off. Everybody gets this paid time off unless you 284 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: are on a visa from another country then you are exempt. 285 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: And it was kind of one of the women talked 286 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: about that. So I want to play that clip too, 287 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: because I think this is also where they sneak things 288 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: in and it's like, hey, we want to bring immigrants 289 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: into your state and then hurt the actual michigan ers 290 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: and you here constantly, oh no, no, this isn't taking 291 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: away American jobs, This isn't hurting American workers. But the 292 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: hospitality industry is definitely a place where American workers are 293 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: significantly involved in the hospitality industry. My gosh, we have, 294 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: we have. 295 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 4: We have. 296 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: You can take that in college. You have degrees in 297 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: hospitality in college. And to this woman's point that she's 298 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: about to make, we have this really special place in 299 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: Michigan called Macina Island, and a lot of these students, 300 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: college students and high school students that are looking to 301 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: go into hospital hospitality they go there for the summer 302 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: because it's one of the great places that you can 303 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: get a lot of that resort experience. And for someone 304 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: who wants to go into hospitality, whether they're going to 305 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: do it in Detroit, Grand Rapids, Macina Island, or Hawaii, 306 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: what a great place to get experience here at home. 307 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: And I'm going to let you listen to this because 308 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: her point is maybe that won't be available anymore because 309 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: of this here it is. 310 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 4: Then I'm using the examples about too, aren't the I 311 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 4: can't remember when they're title of the the employees they 312 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 4: have for. 313 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 2: Different countriation because they're different. 314 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 4: Right, so they are exempt from this? 315 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 2: Correct? 316 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 4: There are, yes, they are exemned from this. And what 317 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 4: I see what was kind of speriencing about that. Of course, 318 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 4: not and I totally and bring all of those employees 319 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 4: to work in. All these college kids who are residents 320 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 4: of our own great state Michigan. You're a Michigan and 321 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 4: raym Pain we have. They're not pointing at jazz up 322 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 4: and Neck and they want to go into the hospitality 323 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 4: and they do more a great places. I personal friends 324 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 4: that they get around college and they go up there. 325 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 4: And still now all the time, right now, this is 326 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 4: to hire stainers to go out there and murk, because 327 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 4: that's highly people the countries. 328 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: And she says that because without this, if you have 329 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: the situation where you have to give this paid time off, 330 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: then those people can just no call, no show three 331 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: days in a row. And if you're a restaurant in 332 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: a busy place like Macina Island, you can't take that risk. 333 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 1: So it's easier to just say, hey, we'll bring people 334 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 1: in and forget the people that actually live here. 335 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. 336 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 2: And I think you know two things on that you 337 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 2: can tell a lot about the left about where they 338 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 2: draw carveouts for right. Yeah, And there's a carve out 339 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 2: in one fair wages proposal for federal government employees. 340 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 4: Right. 341 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 2: So they want to take care of federal government employees 342 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 2: and then h one B visas. But then it also 343 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 2: shows you the hypocrisy of the left and that they're 344 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 2: the Again we've been hearing in the early days of 345 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 2: the Trump administration this, you know, clamor on the left 346 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 2: of Oh, this is so inhumane the treatment of immigrants. Well, 347 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 2: if our labor policies in Michigan are so inhumane, why 348 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 2: do you want them to allow the only people in 349 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 2: the state of Michigan who can work under our current 350 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 2: labor laws to be those who are here on visus. 351 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 2: I mean, it just shows you that these are just 352 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 2: nonsensical arguments coming from again, a group that isn't based 353 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 2: in Michigan. They don't know what it's like to raise 354 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 2: a handley in Michigan. They don't know what it's like 355 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 2: to live in Michigan, start a business in Michigan. And 356 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 2: we shouldn't be letting these people try and design our 357 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 2: state's restaurant, hospitality, labor standards. 358 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: And they don't know what it was like to live 359 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: in Michigan during COVID, and I think obviously this was 360 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 1: on the ballot before COVID. I don't think that changes 361 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 1: how they feel. Based on their website, they still think 362 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: that this is how the law should be in states 363 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: across the country. The problem is in Michigan, we lost 364 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: so many restaurants, more than three thousand restaurants during COVID 365 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: because we had these draconian lockdowns. The governor lockdown restaurants 366 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 1: for longer than any other state. So in Michigan restaurants 367 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: were closed for longer than any other state. We lost 368 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: three thousand. They have never come back, and that was 369 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 1: a theme of Monday night as well. Over and over again. 370 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: These restaurants were saying, look, we used to be opened 371 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: until two am. And he actually said, raise your hand 372 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 1: if you your restaurant used to be open at until 373 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: two am, and it's not anymore. And half the hands 374 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: in the room went up. They said they can't keep 375 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: the restaurants open past ten because the whole dynamic of 376 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: going out change the pandemic really changed the industry. And 377 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: their message to legislators like you is we can't take 378 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: another hit. We literally can't. And my conversation with these 379 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: guys is like, restaurants are the community. If you look 380 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: at your community, the heartbeat of your community is where 381 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: you celebrate your kids' grades, where they want to go 382 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: for their birthday. How where you have your business meetings? 383 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: Those mem I mean, even when my mom talks about 384 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: her hometown in Pennsylvania, she's like, Oh, I'd love to 385 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: go back there and eat there one more time, because 386 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: that's those are the great memories. You have positive reactions 387 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: to the food that you eat that someone made for you. 388 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: And one of our local restaurants, he was saying to me, 389 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: that's exactly how I feel, And I feel like, why 390 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: should the government come in and tell me how I'm 391 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: going to run my business? He said, I have customers 392 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: who get sick, and I take the food to their house, 393 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: and I've actually eaten the meal with my customers at 394 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 1: their kitchen table. And He's like, but the government says 395 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: that they want to tell me what I can do. 396 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: How do we I have driven through town after town 397 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: in the state that has boarded up windows because of 398 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: what happened during the pandemic. How do we explain to 399 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: people that more of these heartbeats across our state will 400 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: just go out? 401 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, I think you're you hit the 402 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 2: nail on the head again and that there's really no 403 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 2: industry that was as acutely hurt by COVID and the 404 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 2: draconian shutsdowns you saw from Gretchen Wimer than our restaurant 405 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,719 Speaker 2: industry and just completely decimated. And again mind you, they 406 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 2: were rules for everybody else, while the governor would go, 407 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 2: you know, have drinks in Lansing bars. But the restaurant 408 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 2: industry has been hammered, and then this would just be 409 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 2: another blow that just really unfairly targets the industry. I 410 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 2: think the most powerful arguments that we can bring is 411 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 2: look at other places where one Fair Wage has been 412 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 2: successful in implementing this policies. The District of Columbia and Chicago, 413 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 2: two places that are known to have have had thriving 414 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 2: restaurant scenes and a very professional hospitality sector where servers 415 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 2: would make great money on tips and you know, really 416 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 2: provide a great living for their families based on that 417 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 2: source of income. After it's passed in both of those 418 00:21:55,920 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 2: cities just completely decimated the restaurant industry. See restaurant closures. 419 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 2: You've seen moving to quick serve style of restaurants and 420 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 2: table service, so fewer jobs, restaurants closing and less tip income. 421 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 2: And you're seeing and again, you know, District of Columbia 422 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 2: is not exactly a conservative heart heartland, and you're seeing 423 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 2: them take steps to roll this back because of the consequences. 424 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 2: And then Massachusetts is the last state where this most 425 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 2: recently was on the ballot, again not exactly a state 426 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 2: we associate with conservative policy. It was defeated in Massachusetts 427 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 2: based on the examples that people witnessed in the district 428 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 2: of Columbia and in Chicago. That's why we need to 429 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 2: make sure that the legislature acts before February twenty first 430 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 2: and fixed system. 431 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: Well, and look at what democrats have done in the 432 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: state of Michigan and these radical policies have done in 433 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: the state of Michigan. If you, I mean you spend 434 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 1: every day in Lancing, you see there are no restaurants 435 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,239 Speaker 1: in Lancing the first time, so that we had two 436 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: Big B's. For those of you who don't know, it's 437 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 1: like it's kind of like a Starbucks. It's a Big 438 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 1: Bee coffee and no Starbucks down there are two Big Bes, 439 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: one in the House a building, one in the Senate building. 440 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: So the first Big Bee closed a few years ago, 441 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: and I remember being like that's significant. I mean, when 442 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: you're in the government, like you're in the capital of 443 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 1: the state and the coffee shop closes, that means you're 444 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: doing something wrong. But like what we have just seen 445 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: this week with Donald Trump calling everybody back to the 446 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: government buildings, Whitmer sent everybody home from the government buildings. Shocking. 447 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: I know this is going to shock you. But when 448 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: people don't fill those buildings, businesses that are in the 449 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: town cannot survive. So the second Big Bee closed that 450 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: just this past year, and I believe, in my view, 451 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: that is very indicative of where we are as a state. 452 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 1: And I know that may be a silly metaphor for 453 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,959 Speaker 1: the state, but when you lose your two coffee shops 454 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 1: where all the legislators are getting together and having to 455 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: make big decisions, it's meaningful. And yet I found it 456 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: interesting the other day when we were having this conversation 457 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 1: these restaurant owners, they kept saying, why, why, where's the 458 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: logic in this? What will you do? How can you 459 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: stop this? And there was like a battle back and 460 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 1: forth because we had a Democrat there and four Republicans there, 461 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: and there were some discussions of like how do we 462 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: bring this to the table and how do we get 463 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: these bills passed? But not one legislator said, we really 464 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: wish the governor would get involved. The governor is not 465 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: even in the state. She's on another book tour, which 466 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: I think is so pathetic. Here is a woman who 467 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 1: wrote a three page book, and then she wrote a 468 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: teenage version of the three page book, and then she 469 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: went on a book tour the first time because she 470 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: thought she could become president. Now she's on a book 471 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: tour the second time when there is truly a crisis. 472 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: And this is a significant amount of our workers in 473 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: the state who are saying we are about to hit 474 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: a crisis February twenty First, the legislators didn't even act 475 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,479 Speaker 1: like they had any type of connection to the governor. 476 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: The governor is so disconnected from the state. No one 477 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 1: even thinks about her. Why why is she not around? 478 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, this is an area where we 479 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 2: particularly need the support from We have split government and 480 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 2: Lansing right now. House Republicans passed a common sense solution, 481 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 2: but this is sitting in the state Senate right now, 482 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 2: and this is an instance where the governor stepping up 483 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 2: and saying we need to get this done. I would 484 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 2: sign the House a Republican bill that would be really helpful. 485 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 2: I bet you there's thousands of restaurant workers and small, 486 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,479 Speaker 2: family owned small businesses across our state that would really 487 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 2: appreciate that type of leadership. I mean, we haven't seen it, 488 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 2: so it's now it's on to us to continue to 489 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 2: push at you know. And I would just the one 490 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 2: plug I'd put in on the two de Diiction podcast 491 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 2: is everybody listening. If call your state senator. Now, if 492 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 2: you live in my district, you don't have a state 493 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 2: senator because the governor won't call a special election for 494 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 2: that state Senate seat. 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I mean, 520 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: that's at that point, at this point, that's the only 521 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: thing that I think will get her to move on this, 522 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: and that has gotten people to move in the past, 523 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 1: because whoever has the bully pulpit is has a lot 524 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 1: of power. And if you go out there and you 525 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: help us out, because our restaurant workers need your help. 526 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: Go out there and say whitmer get back to your 527 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 1: state and make sure your restaurants don't close. You already 528 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: close three thousand of them. Stop it. Get back there 529 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 1: and show us that you actually care about the people 530 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: of Michigan. Because it's not just the restaurant workers. Once 531 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: the restaurants close, our communities are decimated. There's just no 532 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: gathering place. She is destroying the state. So please go 533 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: out there, tweet, put it on Instagram, whatever you can do. 534 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: Just get her to pay attention. I mean, that is 535 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: how pathetic it is. Right now we have a governor 536 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: who's so disconnected from our state. We're asking people from 537 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,479 Speaker 1: other states to say, Hey, Gretchen, could you actually pay attention? 538 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: And I say this because I feel like this is 539 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: a warning to people. Right now, we're looking at another 540 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: race in twenty six. Michigan is a swing state. So 541 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: you'll notice that people from Michigan tend to go to Washington, DC. 542 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: And that's because they have more of a national presence. 543 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: Because when these big races like the twenty four race 544 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: that we just went through the presidential race. When these 545 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: big races happen, the people in swing states there suddenly 546 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: they become national figures. So Gretchen Whitmer was out on 547 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: the bus every day posting her videos of her Dorito 548 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: communion and all that bs and she becomes a really 549 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: big figure. Well, this is what happened not too many 550 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: years ago with Jennifer Granholm, who then became the Secretary 551 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: of Energy, and we had some of the worst energy 552 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: policies we've ever seen for the last four years. I mean, gosh, 553 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: it has crushed the state of Michigan with these stupid 554 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: ev mandates, but across the country she has hurt our 555 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: national security because of her stupid energy policies. So this 556 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: is why these races that you're going to see in 557 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 1: twenty six are critical, especially in Michigan. You have a 558 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: US Senate race, you have a governor's race, you have 559 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: a Secretary of State race, and like look at Arizona, 560 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: you had the Secretary of State run her own election, 561 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: Michigan will have the same thing. Jocelyn Benson has already 562 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: come out and said she's going to run and guess what, 563 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: She's also going to put out a book because when 564 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: you are a secretary of state, I guess what else 565 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: do you have to do then write a self promoting 566 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: book that you can then also leave the state and 567 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: go on a book tour. These are the people you 568 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: don't want in Washington, folks. That's why I say go 569 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: out there and talk about this. We're talking about this, 570 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: that you can elevate this because they're doing really horrible 571 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: thing things in their states that they want to take 572 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: to the federal level. 573 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and it shows you. I mean, we've seen the 574 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 2: damaging impacts of a group from based in California, like 575 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 2: one Fair Wage has had in Chicago District of Columbia. 576 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 2: And when we're coming up on the twenty twenty six election, 577 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 2: that's going to be a pivotal opportunity for our state 578 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 2: to finally change directions right beyond the governor, US Senator, 579 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 2: attorney General, secretary of State, the state House, the state Senate. 580 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 2: Those are also going to be toss ups and we 581 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 2: can really get our state back on track. But it's 582 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 2: going to require engagement and involvement from ever. 583 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: And we say that we need help from everyone because 584 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: we have struggled in this state with a lot of uniparty. 585 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: We have a big uni party situation where there is 586 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: there are a lot of lobbyists who have been in government. 587 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: We're trying to weed that out. We're trying to bring 588 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: America First to the state of Michigan. But we've got 589 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: a situation where the parties are working together for some 590 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: of the top one percent of businesses and corporatism, but 591 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: it's not really helping the small businesses. And we are 592 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: built on small businesses in the state, like every state 593 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: the United States is built on small businesses. So we 594 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: ask you to get involved in some of these other 595 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: elections because it affects the entire country as a whole. 596 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: These policies go on to end up giving you terrible 597 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: light bulbs and low flow showers and you no longer 598 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: can have a gas stove. So protect yourselves by protecting. 599 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 2: Us your gas stove in our country. So yeah, that's 600 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 2: what we need. 601 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, Well, I will end on. There is also 602 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: a special election that needs to be called in your area. 603 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: And that's another thing that we can kind of shame 604 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: this governor for. I know she's not calling it because 605 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: she would then have she has the potential of having 606 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: a tie in the Senate and she it's so funny 607 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: to me, she's not here. She doesn't seem to care 608 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: about what she's going to do with her last two years. 609 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: But she clearly doesn't want anybody else to have a 610 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: decision on what she's going to do. So another thing 611 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: she should do. She should call that special election, shouldn't she? 612 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, I mean you think about you know, why 613 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 2: did the American Revolution start? It was taxation without representation. Well, 614 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 2: right now, there's almost three hundred thousand residents small businesses 615 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 2: in the Great Lakes Bay region, my part of the 616 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 2: state that is unrepresented in the state Senate. And when 617 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 2: you have major legislative issues like this tip credit and 618 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 2: sick time issue in front of the State Senate, these 619 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 2: small businesses, these workers are unrepresented, and so the governor 620 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 2: needs to do the right thing and call a special election. 621 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: Absolutely. I mean, it's disgusting to think that people are 622 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: hanging in their lives and their livelihoods are hanging in 623 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: the balance because they don't have somebody to stand for them, 624 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: and she's enjoying New York City, probably on the taxpayer dime. 625 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: I think it's pathetic. 626 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, better than better than Spain. 627 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, right, that was Thanksgiving. Now we could go 628 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: through all of her breaks. Thanksgiving, we paid for her 629 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: to go to Spain in the summer. I think she's 630 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: had a lovely two week tour of Japan where she went, 631 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: and I just have to say, this is this is 632 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: a great example of democrats. She went and she was 633 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: all like, I'm going to Japan because I'm going to 634 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: bring manufacturing back to Michigan. And she goes to a 635 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: robot company and literally she's in the picture by herself 636 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: because this company builds robots to make sure nobody has 637 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: to work in a manufacturing facility before. I mean, I 638 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: used to go to all of the big, the big 639 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: conventions where they would be like, we can come into 640 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: your factory and get rid of the people. That's where 641 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: she went. This is the company she went to. I'm like, 642 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: read the room. She knows nothing about small businesses. So 643 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: I just I thank you for being out there and 644 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: speaking on this representative Bill Shooty. We expect to see 645 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: great things out of you. But thanks, thank you so 646 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: much for being on today. 647 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 2: Really appreciate the opportunity. 648 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: Thank you Tutor absolutely, and thank you all for joining 649 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: us on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. For this episode and others, 650 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,439 Speaker 1: go to Tutor Diison podcast dot com, the iHeartRadio app, 651 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts and join 652 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: us next time. Have a blessed day.