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Speaker 1: School of Humans. Hi, this is a podcast about death

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Speaker 1: and dying and a bunch of weird stories and weird

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Speaker 1: thoughts from three fun flirty girls. Um so fair warning. However,

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Speaker 1: if you're still into it, thank you so much. And

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Speaker 1: here's Cadaver Gals Gals. Hello, cadaver babes. Yes that is

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Speaker 1: a thing now and welcome to Cadaver Gals. It is

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Speaker 1: a podcast where we talk about death and dying to

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Speaker 1: deal with our own mortality. Who's ready, Who's ready? I'm ready,

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Speaker 1: I'm ready to I love it. That is Taylor and

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Speaker 1: that was Gabby And I'm introducing them now because they

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Speaker 1: decide interrupt interrupt me. So today we're gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: a clown who took a joke a little bit too far,

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Speaker 1: witches and this guy who went a little bit crazy

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Speaker 1: with potions and someone who fell in love with a ghost.

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Speaker 1: So tu ane in, I'm gonna is it? Okay? If

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Speaker 1: I choose who goes? Is that bowne? Can we listen

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Speaker 1: to the clown story? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, okay, Okay, So

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Speaker 1: first I actually want to know, like I'm curious because

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Speaker 1: what y'all's opinions are on clowns, Like, do we think

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Speaker 1: they're good. Do we think they're bad, do we think

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Speaker 1: they're scary? I mean, I know too many circus people

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Speaker 1: to say that I don't like clowns, you know, like

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Speaker 1: I get the art of clowning, like it's a I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I don't have a weird thing with clowns. I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of work that goes into

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Speaker 1: being a good clown. But also if I ever had

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Speaker 1: reserved for like adult circus performances. You know, clowns are

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Speaker 1: for adults. Yeah, when they're doing like acrobatics without any

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Speaker 1: pants on, that's when there should be a clown. I

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Speaker 1: don't think they're appropriate for young people. So I don't

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Speaker 1: know why we have them. Take clowning seriously, Okay, I

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Speaker 1: actually just they kind of scare me. That's that's really it.

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Speaker 1: I don't have clown trauma. I have costumed person trauma,

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Speaker 1: which is why I will never be a furry because

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Speaker 1: literally they terrify me. Like when I was younger, people

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Speaker 1: in full costume just absolutely terrified me. I couldn't do it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you don't know who's in there, Like, it

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Speaker 1: freaked me out. You don't know who's in there. Same

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Speaker 1: with golden doodles. You don't know what's inside that golden doodle.

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Speaker 1: But it's not a dog continium on earth? Why did

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Speaker 1: a golden golden doodle ever do to hear? Hey, they

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Speaker 1: do have those kind of soula's eyes. Okay, so this

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Speaker 1: is like a strange one. And this is back in

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Speaker 1: going around with clowns and circuses and whatnot in that

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Speaker 1: in that time, right, that's when like um Barnum and

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, and they still get mistreated at big circuses.

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Speaker 1: And then there's like humans and zoos two oh the

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Speaker 1: times and big circus. Do you want to guess when

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Speaker 1: the first circus came to be to the United States

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Speaker 1: was twelve thousand BC eighteen thirties. Wait, now, I want

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Speaker 1: of Independence brought circuses here. Um, well, no, it was

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Speaker 1: like I'm in third grade. Clowns luring people into anything,

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Speaker 1: it means that they were cursed from the start. I

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Speaker 1: this story goes No, I'm so excited. January tenth of

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Speaker 1: eighteen fifty four, a thirteen year old was selling peanuts

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying in my brain. A clown his big shoes,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the clown hole that is cadaver gals.

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Speaker 1: Right now, I am so excited to hear about Gabby

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Speaker 1: talking about witches. Gabby, your hair looks so good. You

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Speaker 1: People weren't liking witches. And one thing that whether people

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Speaker 1: take or concoct was this thing called flying ointment. Now,

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Speaker 1: So he died from an overdose from trying to make

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Speaker 1: But it seemed like it was pretty lit. It seemed

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Speaker 1: as like a form of comfort. So I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: anything like that. I'm just saying that it could have

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Speaker 1: also just been a self protection, self soothing kind of

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Speaker 1: which is why I'm just like, you know what, I respect. However,

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Speaker 1: That is so interesting. I mean, I probably won't get

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Speaker 1: it seems just as likely as any other relationship. So

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Speaker 1: they're both. That's crazy, Gabby. If anyone is gonna have

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Speaker 1: a ghost boyfriend and ghost girlfriend, I think it's you

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Speaker 1: in this, in this threesome that we called cadaver Gals,

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Speaker 1: I think we've all learned something from these stories. Don't

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Speaker 1: put too much ointment on your puss, and also watch

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Speaker 1: out for Haitian ghost pirates. Also, just watch out me,

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Speaker 1: just speak out. Okay. Well, I am so grateful that

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Speaker 1: he stuck through and listened to all these bananas stories.

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Speaker 1: I am Nica, I'm Gabby, I'm Taylor. This is cadaver Gals.

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