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Speaker 1: Good evening, America, and welcome to this Just the News,

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Speaker 1: Real America's Voice special report Dogeball Shrinking Governments, Waste in

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Speaker 1: the Fraud. We want to thank our partners Tonight AMAC

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Speaker 1: for joining us in this conversation, making this conversation possible.

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Speaker 1: Association and mature American citizens more than two million strong,

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Speaker 1: making a difference in today's country in so many different ways,

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Speaker 1: and all throughout Tonight's show, we're going to be taking

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Speaker 1: a deep dive into how much waste, abuse and fraud

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Speaker 1: is actually harming you, the American taxpayer, and what the

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Speaker 1: Trump administration and their partners in Congress is going to

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Speaker 1: do about it to fix it. It's no longer a

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Speaker 1: novelty issue in Washington, but rather an existension one wide,

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Speaker 1: because the country is hurtling towards thirty seven trillion dollars

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Speaker 1: in debt. That's alms, a once unimaginable amount. It is

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Speaker 1: a crushing amount of debt now led by the world's

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Speaker 1: richest man, Elon Musk. The Trump administration is often a

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Speaker 1: pretty good start. Over the last few weeks, Musk in

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Speaker 1: the House Doage Subcommittee have identified some stunning abuses, like

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Speaker 1: millions of dollars in loans federally back loans going to children.

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Speaker 1: That's right, You're right, thousands of people clearly long dead

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Speaker 1: who remain on social securities eligibility roles. Then there are

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Speaker 1: small stories too that speak of the reckless elitism and

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Speaker 1: how your tax dollars are being spent in Washington. Do

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Speaker 1: we really want one point five million dollars spent to

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Speaker 1: advance diversity, equity and inclusion in Serbia's workplaces?

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Speaker 2: Does it have to do with us?

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Speaker 1: Or how about forty seven thousand dollars for a transgender

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Speaker 1: opera in Colombia? Not making this up, this is what

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Speaker 1: your tax dollars were spent up. The American people have

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Speaker 1: already answered the question, do they want to put a

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Speaker 1: stop to it? The answer is a resounding yes they do.

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Speaker 1: A supermajority of Americans want government spending cleaned up and

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Speaker 1: trimmed in. Over the next hour, we're going to be

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Speaker 1: talking to leaders on the frontline of this debate, including

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Speaker 1: the chairwoman of the House Doage subcommittee that today had

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Speaker 1: an extraordinary hearing about taxpayer funded journalism organizations, Marjorie Taylor Green,

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Speaker 1: will be with us in a second. We're also going

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Speaker 1: to talk to the former Comptroller General of the United

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Speaker 1: States who spent decades probing and highlighting a waste. He

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Speaker 1: has a really incredible insight into it. We'll have a

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Speaker 1: lot of other great guests as well, but before we

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Speaker 1: my very good friend, Rebecca Weber.

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Speaker 2: Rebecca, good to have you back.

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Speaker 3: On, John. I'm so thrilled to be here.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's not easy business making government work better

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Speaker 4: or at least cost less, and the Department of Government

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Speaker 4: Efficiency is really tackling a big one. They're rooting out waste, fraud,

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Speaker 4: and abuse in a system that's ballooned to over six

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Speaker 4: inefficiencies and rethink how Washington spends our money.

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Speaker 3: And Americans agree.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's time to cut the fat and get

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Speaker 4: real about a government it actually delivers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's an exciting moment. And AMAC has been at

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Speaker 1: the forefront of this debate. Long before was popular Washington,

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Speaker 1: the show. But we're very lucky at the top of

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Speaker 1: front lines of this extraordinary debate. She chaired the hearing

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Speaker 1: today that delved into a very important question, do we

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Speaker 1: need to spend tax dollars on taxpayer funded news organizations anymore?

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Speaker 1: We're going to get a great answer. Buck your seatbelt,

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Speaker 1: all right. Joining us now from the great state of

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Speaker 2: Congress Woman, great to see you again.

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Speaker 5: Great to see you, John, Hi, Rebecca.

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Speaker 2: This was an amazing hearing today.

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Speaker 1: I think people got to see what elitism look likes

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Speaker 2: Am I wrong about that?

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Speaker 1: Is this the end of government fund of Journalism.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, it's the end of it.

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Speaker 6: You know, like I said at the in my closing statements,

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Speaker 5: And tax dollars. So yes, we need to.

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Speaker 6: End corporate public broadcasting and completely defund NPR and PBS.

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Speaker 4: You know, congresswomen, I think Americans concerns over this biased

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Speaker 4: reporting on Elon Musk's actions. What do you share a

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Speaker 5: Well, it was It's actually shocking Catherine Maher.

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Speaker 6: past statements on her social media that are shocking. She

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Speaker 5: She is as far left as you can possibly get.

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Speaker 6: Now listen, she hasn't been with NPR for even a year,

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Speaker 6: yet NPR knew about all of her radical social media posts.

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Speaker 6: my colleague, Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett, who had attacked Governor Abbott

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Speaker 6: And it's so shameful. So their news is so biased.

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Speaker 6: So Americans have basically been taxed and forced to fund

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Speaker 4: I can tell you one thing for sure, AMAC members

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Speaker 3: We're also thrilled to see what Doge is doing.

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Speaker 6: Yes, and that's an ongoing investigation. We're very concerned about

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Speaker 6: massive support going in to all of these organized, dangerous

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Speaker 6: of Love. Well, I think this is the same playbook

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's an important thing to tackle, confront hate on

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Speaker 1: they could be taxed on that money. That means new

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Speaker 5: I think that's a great idea.

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Speaker 6: John we'll be looking at all kinds of solutions like that.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, why would any group be allowed to be

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Speaker 6: such dangerous and radical ideas and attacks on an American business.

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Speaker 6: Tesla is an American business, and Tesla owners are regular Americans.

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Speaker 5: By the way, most of them.

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Speaker 6: Are probably Democrats because they all believed in the Green

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Speaker 4: President Trump we know he's looking or actually is, issued

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Speaker 4: a recent executive order aiming to terminate taxpayer funded housing

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Speaker 6: of that makes sense here we have senior citizens that

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Speaker 5: And I can't even believe it's happened.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, that's definitely going to stop, not only with

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Speaker 2: Yeah, really remarkable, congress Woman.

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Speaker 1: There is obviously a sand clock taking to get a

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Speaker 6: I think the highest priority, in my opinion, came out

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Speaker 6: Identity verification software will identify who people are, number one,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, running government like a business would do a lot

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Speaker 1: now is someone that is working to do all of that.

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Speaker 2: Good to have you back on the show.

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Speaker 7: Sar Well, thank you going to be with you once again.

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Speaker 2: You're doing a lot of work.

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Speaker 1: You had a very meaningful hearing going on today about

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's really awesome to be involved in this.

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Speaker 8: You know, a lot of the questions that we've been

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Speaker 3: To Congressman.

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Speaker 4: You've advocated for dismantling the Department of Education, really suggesting

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Speaker 4: Can you elaborate on how eliminating the federal department would

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Speaker 8: Well, you first start off with the principle that you know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so important.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's one of the huge ways that the federal

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Speaker 8: And it was concerned certainly with the federal branch of

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Speaker 8: using that to confiscate firearms among law abiding citizens. And

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Speaker 8: so this is a tremendous concern. Thankfully, you know, we

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Speaker 8: can trust this administration not to go that route. But

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Speaker 8: it's important for us to use this window of our

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Speaker 8: attunity with this administration to codify these things into law.

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Speaker 8: We've introduced legislation actually to deal with the fact that

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Speaker 8: many people are concerned about the federal government using a

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Speaker 8: health emergency, for example, to confiscate firearms from lawful abiding citizens,

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Speaker 8: and so we have legislation. It's gaining a lot of

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Speaker 1: Andres, I've seen this real quickie here, got about twenty

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Speaker 1: Congress will chie What will be those savings look like

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Speaker 8: Well, Elon's proposed that we could find a trillion dollars

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Speaker 8: in waste, fraud, abuse, mismanagement, corruption. That sounds like a lot,

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Speaker 8: but you know, we've just gotten into a couple agencies

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Speaker 8: and we're finding hundreds of billions, and so you begin

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Speaker 8: to look at that and you're like, Wow, this this

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Speaker 8: may be real. And you know President Trump talked about

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Speaker 8: two trillion as the goal to get us back to

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Speaker 8: a balanced budget, and so I'm optimistic that we'll get

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's pretty exciting. Well, I know one thing. You

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Speaker 1: are tirelessly working at this. We've seen you day in

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Speaker 1: and day out on the Doachub Committe. It's a great

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Speaker 1: honor to have you on the show, sir.

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Speaker 7: Oh, thank you. Honored to be here. A pleasure you

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Speaker 7: so much.

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Speaker 2: All Right, folks, we're going to take a quick commercial break.

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Speaker 2: When we come back.

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Speaker 1: A man who's been preaching about waste fraud abusing government

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Speaker 1: for decades. He's a former Comptroller General of the United States,

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Speaker 1: David Walker. He'll join us in the meantime. I got

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody.

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Speaker 1: When I first came to Washington, one of my first

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Speaker 1: meats was to cover waste fraud abuse in America, and

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Speaker 1: I would turn to an agency called the Government Accountability Office.

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Speaker 1: It was the ultimate expert on exactly what was being

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Speaker 1: wasted and how government was spending taxpayer money. We're very

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Speaker 1: lucky to be joined today by someone who spent his

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Speaker 1: career or a good part of his career, digging into

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Speaker 1: those issues and keeping the American people formed. He was

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Speaker 1: he was fighting fraud and waste before it was popular

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Speaker 1: in Washington. He's the former Comptroller General of the United States.

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Speaker 1: David Walker, David good to have you on, sir.

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Speaker 9: Going to be with both of you today.

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Speaker 2: We love the work you've done over the years.

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Speaker 1: And I was thinking of you not too long ago

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Speaker 1: because I saw this headline in the New York Times

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Speaker 1: which said in.

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Speaker 2: The Oval Office, Elon Musk has.

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Speaker 1: Said there was fraud in government without any proof, and

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Speaker 1: I thought, well, anyone who ever world read a ga

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Speaker 1: O report would have known there's a lot of it.

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Speaker 1: How bad is the problem You've seen it for decades.

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Speaker 1: How bad is our wasted fraud and abuse problem in

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Speaker 1: America right now?

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Speaker 10: Well, first, we should have zero tolerance for fraud, waste, abuse,

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Speaker 10: and mismanagement, but it'll never be zero. Every year there's

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Speaker 10: a improper payments report that's issued by the government with

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Speaker 10: the Inspector General's and GAO that estimates the amount of

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Speaker 10: improper payments, which includes, but is not limited to fraud.

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Speaker 10: You know, the GAO issued or report a year ago

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Speaker 10: that estimated that fraud was anywhere from two hundred to

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Speaker 10: five hundred billion a year over a several year period.

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Speaker 10: But it's important to understand that that included COVID, and

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Speaker 10: I would not be surprised if it trillion dollars work

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Speaker 10: of fraud associated with COVID alone. And so I think

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Speaker 10: the fraud numbers were higher during the COVID curd than

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Speaker 10: they are in regular operations, but they're still too high.

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Speaker 4: So, given your extensive experience leading the Government Accountability Office,

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Speaker 4: how do you assess doose's current strategies that they're using

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Speaker 4: to identify and eliminate waste and abuse within the federal agencies?

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Speaker 4: Are there any specific methodologies or maybe best practices from

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Speaker 4: your tenure that you think those should adopt to really

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Speaker 4: enhance their effectiveness.

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Speaker 9: Well, first, I think those is good news bad news.

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Speaker 10: I think what they're doing needs to be done, but

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Speaker 10: I think the way they're going about it.

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Speaker 9: Has got some fundamental problems.

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Speaker 10: First, they're not doing an audit, They're basically doing a

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Speaker 10: transactional review using artificial intelligence to try to identify possible

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Speaker 10: or probable fraud.

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Speaker 9: Waste of use, in mismanagement.

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Speaker 10: A lot of the things that they're identifying, quite frankly

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Speaker 10: or not fraud.

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Speaker 9: They're not illegal.

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Speaker 10: There are differences in policy positions between the last administration

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Speaker 10: the Herd administration. In other words, the last administration funded

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Speaker 10: a bunch of things that this administration would not fund,

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Speaker 10: and therefore they're canceling a bunch of contracts redirecting the funds.

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Speaker 10: I think one of the things you need to understand

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Speaker 10: is only Congress can cut spending. DOGE can't cut spending.

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Speaker 10: The president can't cut spending. Only the Congress can. And

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Speaker 10: so the only way that they can save money immediately

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Speaker 10: is through hiring freezes and reductions in force.

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Speaker 9: And I think that's why they've.

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Speaker 10: Pivoted rather than just looking at contracts, to be able

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Speaker 10: to look at headcamp because in that situation, the Congress

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Speaker 10: needs gives you a maximum, they don't give you a minimum.

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Speaker 2: Great point.

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Speaker 4: Interesting, but critics are saying that DOGE is going too far,

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Speaker 4: maybe acting outside of their legal bounds. Specific what is

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Speaker 4: your take on the pushback from the courts.

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Speaker 9: Well, there are a lot of.

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Speaker 10: Different cases that are pending, if you will, and you

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Speaker 10: know those have to play out in the court. You know,

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Speaker 10: people have argued that a lot of the things that

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Speaker 10: they're doing the illegal.

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Speaker 9: I haven't seen any evidence of that.

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Speaker 10: They do, however, need to be much more transparent with

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Speaker 10: regard to what they're doing, how they're doing, who's doing it,

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Speaker 10: and what they're finding. For example, if you look at Rock,

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Speaker 10: which is the AI application of X which is owned

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Speaker 10: by Elon Musk. You know, those claims that they've saved

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Speaker 10: one hundred and fifteen billion dollars, but when you ask Rock,

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Speaker 10: Rock says that's what they claim, but only two to

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Speaker 10: twelve billion can be verified. So I think, you know,

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Speaker 10: the bottom line is is that you know, we need

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Speaker 10: to separate the week from the chaff. I think both sides,

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Speaker 10: both proponents of DOGE and opponents of DOGE, are saying

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Speaker 10: things that are inaccurate and ultily the goods will resolve

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Speaker 10: an issue.

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Speaker 2: Man, David, you did one of my favorite things. I

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Speaker 2: was a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Younger when you did this, but in twenty twelve of

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Speaker 1: you toward the country and you just asked Americans what reforms.

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Speaker 1: Would they like to common sense people who have to

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Speaker 1: make their own balance budgets in their own families. What

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Speaker 1: they wanted to see remind us some of the things

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Speaker 1: that you learned on that amazing tour.

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Speaker 10: Well, Well, I had a hypothesis that the American people

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Speaker 10: a lot smarter than the politicians, realize that they could

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Speaker 10: handle the facts and the truth that they knew that

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Speaker 10: you couldn't spend more money than you make charge it

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Speaker 10: a credit card, not have a day of reckoning. And

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Speaker 10: basically what I was able to get was seventy seven

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Speaker 10: to ninety seven percent agreement from representative groups of Americans

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Speaker 10: on a goal for debt to GDP, on a ratio

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Speaker 10: of spending reductions to revenue increases, on budget reforms social Security, Medicare, Medicate, healthcare,

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Speaker 10: defense taxes, government organization operations, and political reforms seventy seven

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Speaker 10: to ninety seven percent. You know, Washington is a lag indicator.

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Speaker 10: They don't want to end up doing anything until there's

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Speaker 10: a crisis that forces them to act. We're in a

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Speaker 10: bad situations getting worse every day. We need more leadership

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Speaker 10: and we're going to need a fiscal commission and a

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Speaker 10: constitutional amendment that limits that the GDP if we want

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Speaker 10: to restore sanity and sustainability to our federal finances.

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Speaker 4: Great point, And during your tenure as Controller General, you

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Speaker 4: really did emphasize transparency but long term fiscal sustainability. So

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Speaker 4: how do you envision a Department of Government efficiency really

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Speaker 4: balancing the political pressures of this short term cost cutting

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Speaker 4: with really the need for strategic investments and long term efficiencies.

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Speaker 9: Well, the truth.

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Speaker 10: Is is that at best, dose is going to make

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Speaker 10: a very modest dent in our huge fiscal gap. We're

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Speaker 10: spending two trillion dollars a year more than we're taking

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Speaker 10: in A dose is going to have a modest impact

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Speaker 10: on that because the big changes are going to require legislation,

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Speaker 10: and legislation will require bipartisan support in order to be

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Speaker 10: successful and sustainable. And one of the concerns I have

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Speaker 10: about those who say, you know, it's pointing out that

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Speaker 10: there is fraud, waste to do some dismanagement.

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Speaker 9: That shouldn't be.

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Speaker 10: A surprise, but it's further undercutting trust and competence and

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Speaker 10: government and further dividing Republicans and Democrats in Congress, when

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Speaker 10: in reality, the major things that we have to get

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Speaker 10: done and we're going to require bipartisan supporting the legislation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Congress is the ultimate per string holder. They're going

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Speaker 1: to have to fix this Thing's all done, David. When

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Speaker 1: you look out, there's always been this third rail politics.

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Speaker 1: We can't even talk about entitlement programs. But those major programs,

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Speaker 1: particularly Medicare and Social Security, have been stolen the money

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Speaker 1: for a long time. They need to be replenished, and

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Speaker 1: entitlement inform is going to have to be on some radar.

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Speaker 1: Is there a political will to have the right responsible

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Speaker 1: conversation for entitlement programs right now?

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Speaker 10: The truth is is that the biggest depicit we have

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Speaker 10: in Washington in connection with social insurance programs is the

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Speaker 10: leadership deficit. They want to wait until there's a crisis

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Speaker 10: at the doorstep before the act. That's irresponsible and it

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Speaker 10: also is inconsistent with the will of the American people.

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Speaker 10: As I mentioned on the tour that I did, the

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Speaker 10: framework we came up with got seventy seven percent support

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Speaker 10: for Social Security reform eighty two percent support for Medicare reform.

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Speaker 10: The key is you need a statutory commission that where

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Speaker 10: everything's on the table, but not everything is equal. That

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Speaker 10: engages the American people with the facts, the truth, the

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Speaker 10: tough choices, that solicits input and make a package of

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Speaker 10: recommendations for an.

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Speaker 9: Up or down vote Congress. That's how you get it done.

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Speaker 10: And in order to be able to sustain it, you

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Speaker 10: need a constitutional amendment. I'm working on all of these,

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Speaker 10: and stay tuned because the states are getting fed up

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Speaker 10: with the federal government and they may end up exercising

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Speaker 10: their rights under Article five of the Constitution and soon

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Speaker 10: the Congress for failure to call a Convention of States

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Speaker 10: to propose such an amendment as far back as nineteen

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Speaker 10: seventy nine.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that would be a big moment. You think that's

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Speaker 2: on the horizon.

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Speaker 10: I hope and pray that it is, because God knows

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Speaker 10: we're on an unsustainable path.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, smell one thing.

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Speaker 4: I know you've said that. Go ahead, Yeah, you've got

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Speaker 4: you've said that. Dogs you know, is really doing a

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Speaker 4: good job. But perhaps a drop in the bucket. I mean,

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Speaker 4: how deep does the waste in these programs like USAID contracts,

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Speaker 4: you know, the canceling of millions of aid for USAID,

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Speaker 4: how deep does that really go?

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Speaker 10: Well, it's significant, but understand, waste is not necessarily illegal

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Speaker 10: and waste. In many cases, it's because of policy differences.

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Speaker 10: And what doge I think did realize when they first started,

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Speaker 10: but now they I think they do, is you can

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Speaker 10: It just frees up resources to spend on something else.

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Speaker 10: Only Congress can cut spending and the President has to

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Speaker 10: ask for you know, basically an impowerment, and then the

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Speaker 10: Congress has to re send it and you know it

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Speaker 10: doesn't that's going to happen this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're right.

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Speaker 1: AMAX CEO Rebecca Weber. She's my special co host for tonight.

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Speaker 1: We're going to bring in another special guest. He's a

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Speaker 1: Secretary of State All around. Great guide, Bobby Charles, Bobby,

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Speaker 1: great to have you back on the show.

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Speaker 11: Always a pleasure with you.

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Speaker 1: All right, you once occupied one of the great seats

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Speaker 1: in all of Washington, chief investigator for one of the

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Speaker 1: great congressional oversight committees. Have you ever seen anything like

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Speaker 1: what we've seen in the last few days and including today,

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Speaker 1: where the real receipts are being asked for, which is,

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Speaker 1: what are you spending our money on?

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Speaker 12: You know, often we worked hard at oversight in Congress,

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Speaker 12: but we did not have the power to get in.

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Speaker 12: We had subpoena power, but we were often turned back.

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Speaker 12: We were not given really the authority to go in

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Speaker 12: and get underneath the rocks. We wanted to flip all

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Speaker 12: the rocks, but we couldn't get under all of them.

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Speaker 3: And you have to.

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Speaker 12: Remember, there's a very small body of people who do

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Speaker 12: oversight in Congress. There are two thousand federal agencies and

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Speaker 12: they spend trillions of dollars, and so we were, in

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Speaker 12: many ways a symbolic effort to kind of keep people

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Speaker 12: on their toes. What's happening now with those is absolutely spectacular.

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Speaker 11: I just cannot tell you.

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Speaker 12: How happy I am that we have a president, and

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Speaker 12: Donald Trump is doing in spades what Ronald Reagan started

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Speaker 12: to do back in nineteen eighty two with the help

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Speaker 12: of Elon Musk, who of course works for OMB the

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Speaker 12: same way that Peter Grace was an outside businessman who

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Speaker 12: worked for Ronald Reagan. But the extraordinary cuts, I mean,

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Speaker 12: I looked at that. I just yesterday I did a

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Speaker 12: deep dive on how many federal jobs.

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Speaker 11: Are there and what do they really look like?

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Speaker 12: And how many contractors are there that work for the

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Speaker 12: federal government. Since the federal government itself doesn't produce anything,

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Speaker 12: they have to contract for everything. And you know, you're

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Speaker 12: looking at somewhere between you know, roughly three million federal

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Speaker 12: jobs and maybe twice or three times that in terms

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Speaker 12: of contractors. We actually don't even know what so far

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Speaker 12: has been put in the crosshairs. Is about two hundred

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Speaker 12: thousand of those jobs, but you know, it's a great start.

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Speaker 12: And even if that's just one fifteenth of the overall

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Speaker 12: fte what you're telling people is you can't stay at home,

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Speaker 12: you can't spend money on what people don't want.

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Speaker 11: You can't spend money we don't have.

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Speaker 12: And by the way, if you're involved in any kind

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Speaker 12: of fraud or abuse you will be caught.

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Speaker 11: So I love it. Honestly. It makes me sleep better

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Speaker 11: at night.

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Speaker 12: And as far as I'm concerned, you know, put more

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Speaker 12: fuel in the doge gas tank and let them go.

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Speaker 4: Bobby, as a lawyer in the White House, former chief

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Speaker 4: counsel on an Oversight Committee and Ninth Circuit clerk, I have.

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Speaker 3: A few questions.

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Speaker 4: First, are we seeing a judicial coup with these activist

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Speaker 4: federal judges really trying to stop President Trump?

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Speaker 3: How does that end?

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Speaker 9: Boy?

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Speaker 12: Two very good questions, they're packed into one. Yes, I

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Speaker 12: think in some ways we are. Everyone from you know,

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Speaker 12: Bill Barr to sitting former or sitting federal judges look.

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Speaker 11: At this and I think, roll their eyes.

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Speaker 12: The first thing you've got is there are I counted

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Speaker 12: them up last week. There are one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 12: three cases challenging President Trump's executive orders, and those range

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Speaker 12: broadly from the birthright citizenship to the relief of these

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Speaker 12: probationary employees to stopping things that are genuinely waste fraud abuse,

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Speaker 12: including a.

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Speaker 11: USAID in other places.

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Speaker 12: Interestingly, of those one hundred and twenty three cases, and

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Speaker 12: they'll probably be more tomorrow, the ratio of Obama Biden

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Speaker 12: judges to all other judges is ten to one. So

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Speaker 12: the first thing that tells you is in terms of

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Speaker 12: a judicial coup. That tells you that the plaintiffs, who

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Speaker 12: are largely unions and leftist organizations, are picking their forum shopping.

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Speaker 12: You're not supposed to do that, but they are. They're

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Speaker 12: picking Obama and Biden judges. Then you look at the rulings,

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Speaker 12: and the rulings are also, even though not all of

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Speaker 12: them are complete, they are ten to one in favor

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Speaker 12: of this activist, anti Trump judicial bench. The bottom line

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Speaker 12: is you've got federal district judges, and there are probably,

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Speaker 12: I don't know, eight hundred or one thousand of those

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Speaker 12: in the country.

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Speaker 11: You have federal district judges who are saying.

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Speaker 12: That they want to play president of the United States

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Speaker 12: for a day. They want to turn around our national

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Speaker 12: security policy.

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Speaker 11: They want to stop the protection of the borders.

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Speaker 12: They want to reinvigorate agencies that have basically been spending

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Speaker 12: money and force those agencies to spend money on things

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Speaker 12: that are if not illegal, at least imprudent and certainly

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Speaker 12: not faithful to the appropriations that gave rise to the spending,

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Speaker 12: and you've got this judge who wants to bring back

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Speaker 12: three hundred Venezuelan gang members and the gang members that

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Speaker 12: particular gang is designated a foreign terrorist organization, it's an FTO.

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Speaker 12: So the rules change when you're exporting people who are

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Speaker 12: who are admittedly members of an FTO, they have their

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Speaker 12: rights are completely amputated, and they're not citizens to begin with.

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Speaker 12: And besides which, most of them were actually criminals, had

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Speaker 12: a criminal record in Venezuela before they ever got here.

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Speaker 12: So the president is the president, and a federal district

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Speaker 12: judge like this fellow who's gotten quite forward leaning, shall

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Speaker 12: we say, in his bench, sat, they need to sit

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Speaker 12: down and be quiet because they.

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Speaker 7: Have a role.

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Speaker 11: Their role, by the way, is as an inferior court judge.

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Speaker 12: The only thing the Constitution tells us is we have

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Speaker 12: Supreme Court.

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Speaker 11: But we also have circuit courts and district court.

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Speaker 12: Judges created by Congress. And you know, these federal district

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Speaker 12: judges need to, you know, stop in a sense behind

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Speaker 12: the curtain colluding to stop Trump.

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Speaker 4: A quick moment on Doge is everything Doge is doing,

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Speaker 4: in your view legal and how deep do you think

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Speaker 4: the cuts really are?

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Speaker 3: You know, the left is really going nuts.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, well said, so the cuts are utterly legal. I mean,

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Speaker 12: the bottom line is a president. Back to Dwight Eisenhower,

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Speaker 12: presidents have had what they call presidential advisors. They've had

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Speaker 12: national security advisors who are not Senate confirmed. They have

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Speaker 12: all kinds of advisors. In fact, today we probably have

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Speaker 12: one hundred advisors for every advisor that Dwight Eisenhower had.

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Speaker 12: And these this particular advisor, Elon Musk, is a businessman

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Speaker 12: who is very similar I mentioned a moment ago Peter Grace,

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Speaker 12: very similar to Peter Grace. Peter Grace had led a

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Speaker 12: very big organization with I think forty eight thousand employees.

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Speaker 11: Elon Musk has.

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Speaker 12: Led companies I think with contractors somewhere in the range

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Speaker 12: about one hundred and forty five thousand employees. Those people know,

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Speaker 12: in the same way that Jack Welsh and others knew

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Speaker 12: how to make an organization efficient.

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Speaker 11: They are not bureaucrats. They are deliberately not bureaucrats.

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Speaker 12: They understand that there is a bottom line, and the

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Speaker 12: bottom line in this case is the return of money

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Speaker 12: to the American taxpayer. So legally, what's happening is very

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Speaker 12: similar to the executive order that Ronald Reagan signed in

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Speaker 12: nineteen eighty two to bring the Grace Commission to life.

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Speaker 11: This one is called DOSE. It's the same basic thing.

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Speaker 12: The shell or the core element of that unit was

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Speaker 12: established in twenty fourteen by Obama and it was established

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Speaker 12: as an oversight unit to do digital oversight. The President

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Speaker 12: just expanded executive order. It works for the head of

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Speaker 12: OMB who is Senate confirmed, and that is mister Voight.

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Speaker 12: And what it does is the advisor in this case,

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Speaker 12: Musk gives his advice to mister Voight and the President.

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Speaker 12: The President in turn directs his cabinet members and Voight

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Speaker 12: to make the cuts. It's what an executive branch does.

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Speaker 12: An executive branch manages the executive agencies, and that's what

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Speaker 12: President Trump is doing with the help of Elon Musk. So, yes,

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Speaker 12: every I has been dotted, every tea has been crossed.

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Speaker 12: And this counter narrative that there's some sort of an

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Speaker 12: illegality going on, I would say, is the last gasp

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Speaker 12: of a group of leftists who have basically lost the House,

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Speaker 12: the Senate, the White House, and now they're trying to

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Speaker 12: use the judiciary, and they're trying to protest for fraud

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Speaker 12: and break in and protect it.

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Speaker 11: Well, it's a bad plan.

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Speaker 12: It doesn't work if there's law, if there are laws

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Speaker 12: being broken. I suspect they're on the other side. And

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Speaker 12: what worries me, Rebecca, and.

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Speaker 2: We know this.

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Speaker 12: I was just at a Federalist Society meeting where a

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Speaker 12: guy that sort of waived himself around profanely and looked

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Speaker 12: like he might be interested in doing some violence. I

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Speaker 12: think they've lost all their tools. I think the left

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Speaker 12: is pretty much out of options, and so they're attacking

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Speaker 12: Doze and they're using the courts, unfortunately, to overreach and

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Speaker 12: try to try to amputate the president.

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Speaker 2: Bobby got about a minute left.

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Speaker 1: The Founders gave the power of the person ultimately to

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Speaker 1: Congress and the House. How important is it for Congress

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Speaker 1: to use the power of recision. It's not a term

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Speaker 1: we've heard a lot in the last thirty years, but

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Speaker 1: that should never have been spent.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, so that's the beginning of the reform process. A

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Speaker 12: recision is when you have money that doesn't get spent

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Speaker 12: being spent or planned to be spent on the wrong things.

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Speaker 12: And if it can't be spent, if it's what they

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Speaker 12: call zero year money, that money has to come back

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Speaker 12: into the federal treasury. So that's the beginning of the process.

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Speaker 12: I would argue that way ought to start literally redlining

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Speaker 12: agencies and departments, and only Congress can formally redline.

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Speaker 11: Them or or or eliminate them. You know, I'll be honest.

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Speaker 12: The Department of Education pre nineteen seventy nine did not exist,

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Speaker 12: and the scores of all American students were better pre

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Speaker 12: gotten for that two hundred and sixty eight billion except

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Speaker 12: a bunch of bureaucrats.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, great point. I think most Americans are nodding ahead

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Speaker 1: when you hear you say that.

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Speaker 2: Bobby is always a great healthy dose of wisdom from you.

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Speaker 1: We always appreciate you joining us. Thanks for being with

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Speaker 1: Rebecca and I have just more break to talk about

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Speaker 1: We heard a lot of big ideas, say, whether it

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Speaker 3: They sure do.

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Speaker 4: And you know, the guests really peel back the layers

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Speaker 9: John.

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