1 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: My name is Chris Hasten, and I'm an NBC staff photographer, 2 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: and i was the key photographer on the Office and 3 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: may man of Kate Flannery. Hello, Office family, Hi everyone, 4 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: welcome to another episode of The Office Deep Dive. I 5 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: am your host Brian Baumgartner. Today I have a very 6 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: special guest joining me. He was an essential part of 7 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: the crew of the Office and in many ways he 8 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: has actually helped shape our memories from the show. He's 9 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: the reason that we have so many incredible behind the 10 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: scene photos from our time on set because he was 11 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: our extremely talented and absolutely hello areas NBC staff photographer. 12 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: That's right, We're bringing on the incomparable Chris Hasten. Now 13 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: what why are you talking to the NBC staff photographer. 14 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: That doesn't make sense. Well, Chris was that, but he 15 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: also has become a part of our family. Yes, that's right. 16 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: He became the main man of Kate Flannery a ka 17 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: Meredith Palmer, who actually makes a cameo at the top 18 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: of this episode today. Gosh, I love these two. Everyone 19 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: in the Office community loves these two. Now. In addition 20 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: to the Office, Chris, having worked for NBC since has 21 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: worked on some other shows you may have heard of 22 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: maybe Okay, you've definitely heard of them. The TV he's 23 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: touched is almost unreal, you know, like Friends, Seinfeld, Fresh, 24 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: Prince of bel Air, Community, The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson. 25 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: He has done it all, but only one show really 26 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: changed his life because I mean romantically right. Um. I 27 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: will tell you also that Chris also played a huge 28 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: role in my upcoming book, that's right, Welcome to dunder 29 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: Mifflin is coming out November. You can preorder it on 30 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: Amazon right now, so go grab yourself a copy, Grab 31 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: one for your friends, grab one for your family. Get 32 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: ready to be blown away. I cannot wait for you 33 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: guys to read it. And Chris offered so many behind 34 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: the scenes photos that are included in this book, so 35 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: I'm so excited to talk to him about those moments. 36 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: But for now, get ready to focus. Get it like 37 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: focus the camera. We're focusing, well, we're focusing on the 38 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: man behind the camera. Please give a warm welcome to 39 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: the amazing Chris Hasten. Everybody. Bubble and Squeak. I love it, 40 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: Bubble and Squeak on Bubble and Squeaker cooking at every moment. 41 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: Left over from the night before. What is happening? What's up, daddyo? 42 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: How are you? I'm great man, good to see you. 43 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: Where is your mustache? Oh? I haven't had that since 44 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: COVID Man, it just got too hot and sweaty, if 45 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That's what she said. But no, 46 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: I shaved it off just because wearing a mask all 47 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: the time is impossible. Right. Oh that's smart. Kate. Would 48 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: you get out of my eye line? Please? I've always 49 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: wanted to say that to an actor. Get the hell 50 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: out of my eyeline. Is Kate there? There? Right now? Kate, Kate, 51 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: come here? She is there. This is her mike, this 52 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: is this is where she does her Kate, what is happening? 53 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: I'm talking to your man. I know, I love it. 54 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: I can barely hear you on the headphones. Oh that's okay. 55 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: It looks like it looks like a Broadway show curtain 56 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: behind you. I mean, this is a man every night, 57 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: just for him, an audience of one. All right, can 58 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: I get on? Can I get on? How are you 59 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: guys going to talk? I love you too. We're being recorded, 60 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: don't worry. Alright, alrighty, well, there's a comedy portion of 61 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: the interview. Oh, it only begins there, and it's so 62 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: good to see. So you're well, everybody's okay, yes, yes, 63 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: absolutely fine, all right, So I want to go I 64 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: want to go backwards in time a little bit. How 65 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: did you get into photography? Well, as a kid, you know, 66 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: you always hear those stories. Oh, when I was nine 67 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: or eleven years old, you know, when I was nine, 68 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: somebody put a camera in my hand and I fell 69 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: in love with it. And when you know, all the 70 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,799 Speaker 1: kids in the neighborhood. I'm from southern California, so skateboarding 71 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: and surfing was it. So when everyone else is skateboarding 72 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 1: half pipes and pools, I was taking photos of everybody, 73 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: of everybody doing half pipes and pool okay, exactly. So 74 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: we're still best friends. So you know, we we always 75 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: have our war stories, and mine has to do with photography. 76 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: But it just, yeah, it just I just started landing 77 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: jobs here and they're working really hard to get into places. 78 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: And I was going to school at the time in Torrance, 79 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: and UM started working for an agency shooting on racing. 80 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: That's my first professional gig, shooting auto racing. We shot 81 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: off road racing and eventually road racing, and yeah it 82 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: was great. I'm self taught. So they had a studio there, 83 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: which is the main reason I wanted to work there, 84 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: and then I taught myself lighting. It's funny. About a 85 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: year before I started at NBC, which by the way, 86 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: I did this waiting for NBC to open up, somebody goes, 87 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: do you ever think of shooting people? I go, no way, man, 88 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,559 Speaker 1: I said, people get up and walk out on photo shoots. 89 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: There's no way I'm ever going to shoot people. A 90 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: year later, I'm shooting some of the worst subjects. No, 91 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: no offense, but you know, no, I mean none taken. 92 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: That was the early days. But wait a second. You 93 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,679 Speaker 1: were self taught. I've taught myself lighting. I've taught myself 94 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 1: about exposure. I've taught myself, you know. I mean I 95 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: had one year of college that that's all I needed. 96 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: But I went to a small Christian school, so they 97 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: offered nothing. I shot for the newspaper and the yearbook, 98 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 1: which they were awful. I looked back on that stuff 99 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: and go find no and what I know now you know, 100 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, it was just it's it's a learning thing 101 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: all the way, and um, you know, I've been at 102 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: NBC for a really really long time, and now I'm 103 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: the head guy. Now you're you're it, okay, But before that, 104 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: you're shooting off road racing. So you're shooting cars off 105 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: the road in the desert wed pre run for two 106 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: days and find our spots and then we'd either camp 107 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: there someb we would drop us off, and then the 108 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: race would start and you pretty much kind of new, Okay, 109 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: well there's a hundred cars and I've seen about ninety 110 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: five of them. I'm getting the heck out of here. 111 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: And it was dangerous because we were down in Mexico. 112 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,239 Speaker 1: You know, you pull over machine guns in your face 113 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: and you either have a bunch of photos. We had 114 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: a lot of racer photos all the time, or my 115 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: my boss would go get Playboy magazines at garage sales. 116 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: And it's amazing how far you can get with the 117 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: federal ally with a machine gun in your face and 118 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: a Playboy magazine. Isn't that great? It's sounds like the 119 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: federalities are there right now. Actually. Um so yourself taught 120 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: as a photographer and then you're shooting off road and 121 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: then you find out about a job at NBC. This 122 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: is no. In nineteen eighty I found out, okay, okay. 123 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: First of all, my senior high school, I'm like, wait 124 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: a minute, somebody gets paid to take pictures in the movies. 125 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: And then I really freaked out. And then I ended 126 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: up meeting a guy, went to and went to NBC 127 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: and Burbank and it was the Johnny Carson stage and 128 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: Billy Crystal was doing a pilot It's back when he 129 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: did You Look Marvelous. It was the beginning of that. 130 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: And I was there with a girl and she goes, hey, 131 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 1: I know that guy down there, and it happened to 132 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: be a friend of her mom's and she knew that 133 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: he worked there. I never knew it, and uh, she 134 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: slipped him a note and he invented invited us down. 135 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: We went into the lab, which was my office for 136 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: twenty five years, and I'm I immediately hit him up 137 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: and he's like, you know, after three months, he's like, 138 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: don't ever call me again. And I bugged him every year. 139 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: I just I knew something. I knew it was going 140 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: to happen, and it was NBC the whole time, because 141 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: that was it, you know, NBC was the network. And finally, 142 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: after five years, they called and said, you're still interested. 143 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: And I went in as a lab guy, wiping everybody's 144 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 1: nose and taking out their trash. And again I go 145 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 1: in there, and I learned how they do it big time. 146 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: And what's funny about it is no photographer on staff 147 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: would tell me stay out of an actress, Eyeline, don't 148 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: hit on the actresses, don't don't do this, don't do that. 149 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: And I just went and I got to say and 150 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: I was a nervous wreck, but I never showed it. 151 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: And you know, I've worked on some of the biggest 152 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: shows in history. Right, what was the first show that 153 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: you worked on out of the lab, like when they 154 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: let you go on set? Well, Punky Brewster, the original 155 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 1: Punky Brewster was done on our lot and nobody and 156 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: everyone was bored with a lot of shows and this 157 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 1: was a kid show, and um, I knew the it. 158 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: There were some old school actors on there, and I thought, man, 159 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: maybe I can handle this, and they said, go, yeah, go, 160 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: grab a camera and go. And we used to use 161 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: these gigantic housings that went around a nikon or a 162 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: cannon that sound proved it. I grabbed it and I 163 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: was fumbling and all that. It was only thirty six frames, 164 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 1: so you have to you get through thirty six frames 165 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: and then you uh, you know, you gotta switch it out. 166 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: But anyway, I went down there and started doing that, 167 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: and I'm sure the pictures were awful. Uh. And then 168 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: the second thing, the second thing was like instantaneous because 169 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 1: they knew I can handle myself. I started shooting the 170 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: Johnny Carson Show. That was a rotation thing, so everybody 171 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: did it, you know, every fourth or fifth week. However, 172 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:43,359 Speaker 1: many photographers were in that roster for it, and that was, um, 173 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: that was showbiz, baby. That's how I res when I 174 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: got bit wow, yeah Carson show me right, I mean 175 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: for for comedians at the time, I mean appearing on 176 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: that and you're back there shooting at How amazing was that? 177 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: Not just that, dude. It's like Stephen Wright would come 178 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: into the green room and I'd be sitting there waiting 179 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 1: for the show to start, and we never shot Johnny's 180 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: monologue unless it was required or asked by the producers, 181 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: and and like Stephen Wright would be there and like 182 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: I'd be like, hey man, I mean it's just like 183 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: you're trying not to like, you know, throw up and uh, 184 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: I would always you know, with the comedians especially, I 185 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 1: did it with some of the musicians. But I'm like, hey, 186 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: if you want me to send you some photos, which 187 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: you know I didn't have the authority to do that 188 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: in the beginning, but once it was really rolling, I 189 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: and you know, you know, I'd send Stephen write some photos. 190 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: And Jeff Fox were the God. That guy is such 191 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: a great guy. He saw me recently. He goes, Hey, 192 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: by the way, I don't hang a lot of stuff 193 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: in my house, but there's a black and white that 194 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: you shot of me and Johnny is belly laughing. He 195 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: goes that hangs right outside my kitchen and it's like 196 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: my Buddha. I touch it every morning. Which man, that's 197 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: that's my payoff right there. That is awesome. Who was 198 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: the coolest person on the on the Tonight Show that 199 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: you shot? Like for you, dude, I mean God. We 200 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: go sit in the audience durring rehearsals and the Chili 201 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: Peppers would play for like an hour and Iggy Pop 202 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: would just come this far from your face and just 203 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: be screaming at you l a singing, and they love 204 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 1: that stuff because we're an audience of like ten people 205 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: that wanted to see them. I don't know, man, it 206 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: was I mean, Jimmy Stewart. Uh, you know, I can't 207 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: even I can't even think it was all great. So 208 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: you shot Jimmy Stewart and me. So that's pretty much 209 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: all I really talked about. I mean, that's kind of right. 210 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: I mean, that's there's nothing in between those two. Um, 211 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: in addition to the tonight's show. And you mentioned this 212 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: before NBC, was it right? I mean NBC was much 213 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: by the way Warren Littlefield and I we were, We 214 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: were handed hand with each other and he calls me 215 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: his mussy TV photographer. Really, yeah, because I was there 216 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: through that whole era, and I was a go getter 217 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 1: and young and willing to just do anything. So Cheers. 218 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: You shot Cheers. I shot the end of Cheers. I 219 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: was Leno's photographer when Carson left for the first five years, 220 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: and we flew to Boston and we were in the 221 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: Bull and Finch the night it went off the air, 222 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: but Paramount sent me upstairs above the Bull and Finch 223 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: to be in a room with the cast while they 224 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: watched TV, and they go, you really shouldn't be there, 225 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: but try and get photos the finale. This was the finale. 226 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: They were watching the finale on TV in a hotel 227 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: room in Boston. It wasn't a big room and it 228 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: was really dark, and uh, yeah, it was very intimate. 229 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: I've been in some scary places, Brian. Well, but that 230 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: was I remember that night after the finale. They did 231 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: the Tonight Show afterward, and so you were with them 232 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: through I wash there were a lot of photos I 233 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: did not take that night. In fact, I was with 234 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, didn't work. I was. I was with the 235 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: cast all day. I was in a limo with Kelsey 236 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: Grammer doing business on his way to the State House. 237 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: And uh, Kelsey wasn't having a good phone call. He 238 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: was on that phone in a limo behind with the cable, 239 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: you know. And and the door opens and he gets 240 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: out and we walked up the steps of the Statehouse 241 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: for him to bang a gavel, and yeah, it was 242 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: I was. I've been in some places, Brian. And there's 243 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: some other stories will tell when we're not being recorded. 244 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: I'm sure I remember seeing the cast of Cheers that 245 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: night on the Tonight Show and I don't bombed. Weren't 246 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: they I don't bombed. That's exactly how it appeared. Yeah, 247 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: drunk appeared appeared to me. That is so amazing. And 248 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: so also you shot Seinfeld, you shot Saved by the Bell, Fresh, 249 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: Prince of bel Air, Will and Grace. You've spoken to 250 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: me a lot about Friends. You were you were at 251 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: NBC the whole time Friends was on, right, I did, uh, 252 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: Usually I did the pilot gallery. The gallery is there's 253 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: two types of photography. I do as their unit and 254 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: gallery unit is something that you're on a set. You 255 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: shoot images that look like they're coming out of the 256 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: motion picture camera. I take a liberty with that because 257 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: there are sometimes you don't want the camera on a set. 258 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: Could be on the floor shooting this wide room shot, 259 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: but I don't want some actress coming at me going 260 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: that is a terrible photo of me. So I I 261 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: sort of take the liberty of getting better pictures that way. 262 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: But the gallery stuff is kind of the rock and 263 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: roll stuff, and I have been fortunate to do several 264 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: years of galleries of the biggest shows on NBC Wow, 265 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: And the galleries are kind of pre set up shots 266 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: for those listening. That usually happens right before a season starts. 267 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: You'll shoot the cast in various thoses that will be 268 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: used for publicity and marketing throughout the year. Right, So 269 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: the covers you see on TV guides or you're sitting 270 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: at a light and there's a bus next to you, 271 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: that's all the stuff that we do. Yeah, so you 272 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: had I'm skipping ahead quite a bit here, but you 273 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: had one of the most famous at least from our show, 274 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: The Office, that George Sarah painting UM Sunday in the 275 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: park on the isle of French words. Um. And you 276 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: thought it was just a reservoir. Isn't that a French word? Right? 277 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: But you you set up the office characters as though 278 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: they were in that painting. One. You're tell me a 279 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: little bit about about that or your idea behind that. 280 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: One of our top designers at NBC is named Sean Serrio. 281 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: He's an award winning guy. It was his gig and 282 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: he always gets the real cool gigs. So we got 283 00:16:56,280 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: together and I took the original painting, not the original, 284 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: but you know, I took that image and and sort 285 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: of traced over and I took out a couple of 286 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: people or added a couple of people, and I placed 287 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: everyone where I thought, you know, with Craig Robinson and 288 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 1: the hat or Jim and Pam walking in with the 289 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: umbrella or Kate, you know, with a drink in her hand. 290 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 1: So we sort of designed all of that. We pretty 291 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: much shot everyone singly except Jim and Pam were there 292 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: together and that, I mean, you guys were amazing because 293 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: you look like you're there with a bunch of people. 294 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: That's the beauty of photography. Man, it's nothing but a 295 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: big fat lie and production. You can't everyone can't just 296 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: stop what they're doing and walk off set. So we did. 297 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: We did everybody one at a time, and I had 298 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: plenty of time with you guys. We had a really 299 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: good time. Yeah, yeah, we did. What was let's exclude 300 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: the office for a second. What was your favorite other show, 301 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: let's say to shoot at NBC. Well, one of the 302 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: most intense, most incredible shoots for me was Homicide Life 303 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: on the Street. I think it was the third season. 304 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: I mean it was like if Breaking Bad was going 305 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: and they asked me to go do that photo shoot. 306 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,239 Speaker 1: It was like that because it was just rich and 307 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: sets in Baltimore were unbelievable, and I knew the show 308 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: inside and out. And that's another thing too, is I 309 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: really like to know what I'm doing going in. Sometimes 310 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 1: I don't pilot. You just don't know. But this one 311 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: I knew. I knew the box was a sacred place 312 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: and that the bad, the worst people in Baltimore were 313 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: inside the box, and Andre Brower was going to be 314 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: really in their face. So those are some pretty phenomenal photos. 315 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: I used to enjoy Third Rock from the Sun because 316 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: Lithgau is one of my favorite people in Hollywood, and 317 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: it was a party, oh e R. We had a 318 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: good time on the R even though it was very tense. 319 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 1: We I don't know if I should say this, but 320 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to Occasionally we'd bring in beer and wine 321 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: and something a little harder sometimes so if somebody requested it. 322 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: But we get everybody lit. When we were shooting on 323 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 1: the backlot at Warner Brothers late at night, we'd do 324 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: these photo shoots of them coming out the door into 325 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: the ambulance. And yeah, those were crazy, wild parties, dangerous things. 326 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: You didn't we didn't have that on our show. We didn't. 327 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 1: I guess because you guys had a hundred people on 328 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 1: your show. Maybe I guess that's true. I guess that's true. 329 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: Talk a little bit about your your process. So, first off, 330 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: a multi camera show like Cheers or Friends, the cameras 331 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 1: are set up, do you have pretty much free rome 332 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: to to be able to take photos from anywhere sort 333 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: of in front? Sometimes if you have an actress that 334 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: doesn't want anybody in her eye line or or she'd 335 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: be too I don't even say she. I've had many 336 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 1: many A guy go hey, I can see you moving, 337 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: and you know, well, okay. I'll just let me start 338 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: by saying a still photographer is the only job on 339 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 1: set that can be asked not to do their job. 340 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 1: So you can't have the actor go out, you can't 341 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: have the sound guy leave, you can't have one of 342 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: the camera guys split. So I'm the one person who 343 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 1: could be asked not do their job. But um, when 344 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: all that's moving, it is one of the most beautiful 345 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: dances you've ever seen. One of my favorite directors in 346 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: the world is Jim Burrows. I have done so many 347 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: projects with Burrows, Will and Grace. I could run up 348 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: to the very front of the lenses and work if 349 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: I wanted to. Uh, I wouldn't do that. I'm big, 350 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: I'm a big dude, and I do take up a 351 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: lot of space. But it's it's a relationship you get 352 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: with the dolly grips. You know, if you've ever seen this, 353 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 1: if anybody's ever seen the big dollies that cameras roll on, 354 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: those guys will run you over. And those things can 355 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: run you over. There a tank. I've seen other guys 356 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 1: get clipped and it ain't pretty, but said dance and 357 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: as long as you know how to dance, you will 358 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: survive in that situation. And there are times where Burrows 359 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 1: is famous for putting his foot on the dolly and 360 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: kicking it and they're his guys are so good they 361 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: start rolling the wheels and the camera follows the actor. 362 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: Whatever it's it's truly amazing. But I've been in the 363 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 1: middle of two dollies when that happens, and you're just 364 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 1: gonna get out of there. Um, do you find that 365 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: you still have the same passion that you did that 366 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: first drew you in? Absolutely? Oh no, man, It's the 367 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 1: best job in Hollywood. It is the best job in Hollywood. 368 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: I love to joke. Uh, you know, you see some 369 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: guys shoving a whole giant piece of pizza down his 370 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: mouth at two in the morning and just to get 371 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:48,360 Speaker 1: himself home. I'm like, hey, glamorous business, right, um, but 372 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 1: that I everywhere I go. I mean, I see so 373 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 1: many people from the office. I just saw Kelly Cantley 374 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 1: last week. I see guys from Well and Grace all 375 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: the time. I see, you know, even even working like 376 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: America's got talent. I see camera guys that I've known 377 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: for twenty five years, and it's and you know brand, 378 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: it's it's such a small, tiny business, but it's like 379 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: the biggest, tiniest business in the world. So I'm so excited. 380 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna microrect But no, my passion is uh. 381 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: I mean, holy cow, I can't believe I get paid 382 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,959 Speaker 1: to do this. And I just cat will argue with you, 383 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: but I just don't have the ego that photographers normally have. 384 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: And you know, I'm I mean, I'm taking photos. I'm 385 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: not a plastic surgeon. I'm a I'm a documentarian in 386 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 1: a way. It's I love to use that on people. Yes, no, 387 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: but you are you know you are a documentarian. I 388 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 1: never thought about it like that. Yeah, yeah, but I'm 389 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: I'm not just they're documenting. I'm most of the time 390 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: creating the documentation. Of that. So that's what I love 391 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: about being in a studio and doing a gallery and 392 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 1: just making It's amazing brain that Sunday in the Park 393 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: with George was such a great famous painting. It's been 394 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: copied so many times. And the fact that it carried 395 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: the weight, that image carries the weight that it does. 396 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: I mean, people like, oh my god, you worked on 397 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: The Office. I'm like, yeah, I'm a photographer and and 398 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: and then I mentioned that, and they think they're talking to, 399 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: you know, a big star. I'm like, that's all. I 400 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: move on to the next thing. Man, I'm not worried 401 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: about it. Obviously, you and I share a passion, which 402 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: is The Office. Two in four, NBC ordered this show. Now, 403 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: were you aware of the British version of the show. 404 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: You know what, when I heard this was coming at us, 405 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: I watched the British Uh, probably in a day or two. 406 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: I watched it all and it was I watched it 407 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: three times only because it was so frustrating and I 408 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,239 Speaker 1: hated it so much. I'm like, I don't get it. 409 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: And then once I started watching it and the characters 410 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: grew on me, then I I loved it. The reason 411 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: I watched it so many times to get it is 412 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: because I had worked on fifty British shows already that 413 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: they were trying to make here that failed. By the way, 414 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 1: I shot the very first images for the gallery, which 415 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: we can get into if you want. UM. But I 416 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: went to that crappy little warehouse in Culver City and 417 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 1: we went in there and shot and I shot Pam 418 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: behind the desk, and I did that famous four shot 419 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: of them looking at the computer. UM. So we show 420 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: up and we had an art director who was a 421 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 1: very like UM he's a very show biz guy. His 422 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: name was Jim and Jim had this very like thunderous 423 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: voice who whatever Jim said Jim wanted and Jim was 424 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: going to get. So we get there and Greg Daniels 425 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: is there and he's walking around and UM, and I 426 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: was confused. I mean, I I you know, Okay, you're 427 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: gonna shoot this. They're all gonna be look at the 428 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: monitor and you know, normally we're having him looking to 429 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: the camera so we can identify them and you know, 430 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: people people connect with them. And then Jim Vince there 431 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: and he goes, all right, uh, hey, you any points 432 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: at Johnny goes you look at the camera and Adam nowhere, 433 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: Greg flies and he goes, if anybody looks at this camera, 434 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: the photo shoot is over. Because it was so new 435 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: in the process that I don't think we wanted to 436 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: give up any secrets and or or break that fourth 437 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: wall for the photos because we weren't quite there yet, 438 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 1: and this was our first group shot. And I completely 439 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 1: was with Greg. He knew what he wanted if I 440 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: could jump ahead real quick. There were times where we 441 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: would have a real secret or something that they did 442 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: not want to go out. I developed a relationship with 443 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: Greg and the producers the whole show where I would 444 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: shoot it and we would tag it so it wouldn't 445 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: go out. Like I knew people know that Steve was 446 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: in the finale, right, Can I say that? Finally? Oh? 447 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: Thank god? But I was probably one of five people 448 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: that knew that morning. Uh they warned me, which is 449 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: the greatest thing ever. Somebody doesn't warn you like Carson Show. 450 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 1: They've never warn us there's a big giant thing that's 451 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: going to fall down and just miss his head. It's 452 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 1: like you'll miss the shot if you're not ready for it. 453 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: So I was standing just off camera when he says, 454 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: I can't be your best disminch. And I heard Steve 455 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: walk up and I'm just like, oh my god, this 456 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: is this is I can't tell you how many of 457 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 1: those moments I've actually been there for so to know that. 458 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: And I didn't even tell Okay, I didn't tell a 459 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: soul because that's I mean, that's the way I am. Man. 460 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, uh, if you tell me something no one's 461 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: supposed to know, no one's going to know it. If 462 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 1: the network's not supposed to know about it, They're only 463 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 1: only one person that the network's going to find out, 464 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: my editor. And I'm gonna say this doesn't go anywhere 465 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: until it airs, which is kind of powerful. But I 466 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: I never thought I'd like, so, wait when you got 467 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: there that day, you knew he was going to be there, 468 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: and they said, don't release not right away, not right away. 469 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: I think when I was geared up and walking on 470 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 1: walking on a set. Actually I did see him when 471 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 1: he walked up to the house, so I mean, I 472 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 1: probably knew about five ten minutes before he walked up. 473 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: So I think when he landed, they said Steve's here, 474 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: right to be so. And by the way, I want 475 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: to say one other thing, and I love telling people 476 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: this when we're on the set. There that very first 477 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: day when Greg said, nobody looks at the camera. I 478 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 1: had worked at least ten pilots with Correll, and I 479 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: mean I worked on some of the most amazing things 480 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: with him. And when he walked up, I jokingly said 481 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 1: to my crewmat you guys, Steve Carrell's in this, Let's 482 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: pack it up. We're getting out of here. This ain't 483 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 1: going anywhere. And he got a really good laugh out 484 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 1: of it. Steve and I always had the tightest relationship 485 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: because I had known him for so many years, and 486 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: you know, if he if I needed something, if he 487 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: needed something, I was always welcome into his trailer, which 488 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: was the coolest trailer in Hollywood, and you know it was. 489 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: It was a good relationship to have with him. Such 490 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,479 Speaker 1: a great guy, right well, I think I think also 491 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: going back to that first day, you know, a big 492 00:28:55,000 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: thing I know for Greg early on was he wanted 493 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: to establish these characters or these people, meaning Jim and 494 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: Pam and Michael and Dwight, and and this idea that 495 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: that they were not actors, right, and so actors pose 496 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: for the camera, Actors look into the camera and and 497 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: do you know, glamour shots or whatever you want to 498 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: call it, Whereas if you're a bunch of people at 499 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: a mid level slash small regional paper company, you wouldn't 500 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: look into the camera. You would be doing what you're 501 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: doing and hoping to capture it. That's really fascinating to 502 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,479 Speaker 1: me that it started even before we started shooting the pilot, 503 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: when they were you were doing the gallery. That's amazing. 504 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: So you shot like ten pilots you mentioned with Steve Carrell. 505 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: Was there anybody else from the office that you had 506 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: shot prior to the office. Yeah. I was on a 507 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: pilot one time and we're working in this great old 508 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: school building near downtown and I walk in and there's 509 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: these two geeks that are there. One of them is 510 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: playing a robot, one of them is playing the robot's friend. 511 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: And it was a pilot. And I treat pilots the same. 512 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: You get in, you do your thing, and get out. 513 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: And this one guy comes up to me goes, you 514 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: know what I'd really like for you to do. I'd 515 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: like you to do this, that and the other. And 516 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: I turned to him and I go, look, pal, this 517 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: is a pilot. If this show is picked up, I 518 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: will kiss your ass and do whatever you want. And 519 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: it was Rain Wilson. Are you serious? It was his 520 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: very first pilot he ever did. And to this day, 521 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: when anybody's introduced to me by Rain, he goes, this 522 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: guy shot me on my very first pilot. And we 523 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: never have talked about me telling him that, but he 524 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: respected me and he went with it at that moment. Now, wait, 525 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: but let me ask you this. Did you so you 526 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: were there early on? Did you like the show? You 527 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: know I were? I was worried. I was worried at 528 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: first because I, uh, you know, like I said, I'd 529 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: been on so many shows that didn't think it worked, 530 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: and um, I felt that the first two episodes of 531 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: the British Office were so British, and I worried that, 532 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,479 Speaker 1: wait a minute, this is just like it. But I 533 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: didn't understand. And of course since then I have found 534 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I know how brilliant all of our top 535 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: notch people were, like all of our above the line 536 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: people were, and I've grown to really open up my 537 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: eyes now when I go on set, like those guys 538 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: are geniuses. Greg Daniels is a genius, a fearless genius, 539 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: and it was breaking my heart even back then that 540 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: it was, you know, six episodes and we might give 541 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: you one more episode. And when I see that now 542 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: I scream at people. You know, I'm like, are you 543 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: guys gonna do how many episodes? And while they're adding 544 00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: three more, like how dare they? Don't they realize they're 545 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: sitting on a gold mine. Yeah. Now, on the office, 546 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: there was well, there were four walls, which there usually 547 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: are in a space. There was no place to hide, 548 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: and because of the way the show was shot, the 549 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: cameras moving around all of the time, so there is 550 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: a huge dance between you know, a lot of times 551 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: really three people excluding yourself are in the space. There's 552 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: a boom operator, you've got mix on people, and you've 553 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: got two camera guys who are swinging the camera around 554 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: and so then into that they bring your big bond 555 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: Like so so glad you asked this question. Yeah, so 556 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: how how do you you know? It's one thing, Yeah, 557 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: there's one thing to have this huge dolly that you know, 558 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: if you stay behind the dolly, they're not going to 559 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: shoot you because there's an audience behind you and everything else. 560 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: But in this you're having to learn the dance along 561 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 1: with the camera guys and the sound guys. How how 562 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: different was that for you doing your job on our show? Well, 563 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: Brian and I we occupied the same three inch square 564 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: on every floor, and that's hard to do at least 565 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: Brian soundner, sound guy, who's an amazing mixer now. But 566 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: he and I were in the same spot. And when 567 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: we were in a corner in that conference room or something, 568 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: that conference room was ten thousand times smaller when you've 569 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 1: got a photograph. It. We just managed and Brian, he 570 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: just jokingly rolled his eyes every time he saw me 571 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: and I, I'm very gracious, and I asked permission. I 572 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: would always ask Randall or Matt if I could be, 573 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: you know, in a certain place, and uh, I managed. 574 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: I mean again, that's where a longer lens will come 575 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: into play and you're able to sort of get in 576 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: and I'll try to do two passes on every scene. 577 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: I'll try to go wide and include everyone, and then 578 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: I try to get it fits. An argument at the 579 00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: copier or Pam's talking to Michael at the desk, I'll 580 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: get I'll go in tight on that with a longer lens, 581 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: that's easy to get. Randall, God bless that guy. Those 582 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,479 Speaker 1: him and Matt Man. Those guys are the two best 583 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: I've ever worked with. Sorry for all you other guys 584 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: I've worked with, but like, I learned this on the 585 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,399 Speaker 1: Er on the R where it was a little sort 586 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 1: of island in the middle of the emergency room, and 587 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: when they were on a handhole handheld, they would do whips, 588 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: and um, I was okay. And there I watched and 589 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 1: if if I saw him open his eye, I knew 590 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: he was coming that way. Well, Randall and I developed 591 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: a thing where and Matt two. I think Randall gave 592 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 1: me a sort of a little click or or up, 593 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,919 Speaker 1: and the moment he did that, I hit the deck. 594 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: I literally would drop to the floor and Matt would 595 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: actually whip through me. He didn't care, like, because you know, 596 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: whip you can't. You don't even if even if you 597 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: stop the frame on your on your recording, you're not 598 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: gonna You're not gonna see anything. I'm just a big 599 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: I wear black all the time, so it's just a black, 600 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 1: black white interesting but it was, Yeah, it was. And 601 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,919 Speaker 1: that makes you feel like a rock star. That makes 602 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: you feel like, man, I am on the best set 603 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: in Hollywood, and and I'm here making it happen. Yeah, 604 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 1: there was a moment um several years ago that actually 605 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 1: it was right when Steve left. What when Steve left, 606 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: we I had management at NBC and they brought in 607 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,760 Speaker 1: a guy over me who wasn't as qualified as myself 608 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: and my other partner that were there. And so yeah, 609 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: they were making life difficult. So some of the rock 610 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 1: star stuff was taken away from me, and the galleries 611 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: were being done by this other guy. Um, and the 612 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 1: new season was coming along, and um, you know I 613 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 1: I don't pay attention to anything until they're like, Okay, 614 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna do this shoot. So um, I knew the 615 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 1: office shoot was coming up though, that was the one 616 00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 1: I knew was coming up. And then John and I 617 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: had a conversation and he told me that he said 618 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 1: that unless Chris Hasten does this gallery, we're not doing it, 619 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,800 Speaker 1: and that my friend is a powerful producer on a show, 620 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 1: and that my friend is somebody I will take a 621 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: bullet for and if he if he needs me to 622 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 1: do anything in life, he can call me at any 623 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: hour and I'll be there. Because that that was a 624 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 1: true friendship move. And Krasinski, man, I'm so glad he's 625 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 1: such a huge rock star now and won't talk to me. 626 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 1: I'm kidding. No, we we talked some. Yeah, we talked 627 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: recently about something. So, yeah, that's amazing. He's he's a 628 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 1: class act. He really is. Yeah. Yeah, Just so you know, 629 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 1: I I would have done whatever they asked me to do, 630 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 1: whether you were there or not. Just to be clear, Okay, 631 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 1: you talked about your relationship with Steve. You've known him 632 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: for a while. How accommodating was he to work with 633 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: throughout his time on the show. He was probably the 634 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: most intense and uh, I mean he has a big 635 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:12,240 Speaker 1: movie star by the time things really started rolling. In fact, 636 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 1: he might have been the only one. Yeah, I was. 637 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,760 Speaker 1: You know, here's an example. I was in his office once. 638 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 1: I was between Matt and Randall and Brian was somewhere 639 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: with his boom, and I hadn't watched the rehearsal. Sometimes 640 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: it's I don't want to be in a tight little 641 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: space like that for rehearsals. But I didn't know he's 642 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 1: going to cry in the scene. I don't even know 643 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: if he knew he was going to cry in the 644 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 1: scene in the beginning, and that soundproof housing wasn't sound 645 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 1: prof housing. So it was like, you know, click click click, 646 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 1: and it was you can barely hear it. But a 647 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 1: man who has to cry on cue he heard it, 648 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 1: and uh, he didn't even look up, but he just 649 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 1: goes Chris and I and it's like you might as 650 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,879 Speaker 1: well hear that out of a out of a fog horn. 651 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 1: It's like great, and I'm like, I'm so sorry, Steve. 652 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 1: And all you can do is apologize and leave and 653 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 1: just you know, safe face. I mean, trust me, man. 654 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 1: There are other actors who are like if I told 655 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 1: you once, it's like you haven't told me once. There 656 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 1: was somebody else on the show later on, but I'm 657 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 1: not going to mention his name, but they'll really let 658 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: you have it. But and so unfortunately, at this point, 659 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 1: the room is so small Matt has to get up 660 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 1: off of his box, turn Brian has to get out 661 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 1: of the way so I can get the heck out 662 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: of the room. Oh god, So it's humiliating. It's humiliating. 663 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 1: But you know something, Brian, you can't take it personal. 664 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: It's hard not to um, but it's it's just a job. 665 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 1: So that's the the way I've looked at it. It's 666 00:38:52,480 --> 00:39:13,320 Speaker 1: your job and don't take it personal and you'll be fine. 667 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: What was your favorite memory being on set of The Office? 668 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 1: I was afraid you were gonna ask me this, because 669 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: I know you asked so many people this question. One 670 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: of the funniest things that happened on a regular basis. 671 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:31,840 Speaker 1: Kate loves the fact that I hung out in the 672 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 1: fake men's room. But the fake men's room was the 673 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 1: route to the real men's room because there was no 674 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 1: back wall, and I'd be sitting there editing on my 675 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 1: computer or whatever, and uh, Leslie, David Baker did it 676 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 1: ten times. If he did it once, they opened the 677 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 1: door like, oh sorry, I'm like, I'm not taking a 678 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 1: ship here, dude. The restrooms right there, keep going um um. 679 00:39:54,760 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 1: You know what. I hate to be so cliche, but 680 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 1: it's like any day I walked in the door there, man, 681 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 1: it was a good day. And then, of course, you know, 682 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 1: in the middle of the second season, Kate and I 683 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 1: hooked up, so it's like I had a place to 684 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 1: eat my lunch, now, you know what I mean? How 685 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 1: how did this start? Like, was there a moment, was 686 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: there was there music playing in the background, or did 687 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,839 Speaker 1: someone captured on film? I'm just wondering. You know. She 688 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,719 Speaker 1: kept inviting me to see the lamp Shades, her comedy act, 689 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 1: which is absolutely brilliant. It's that's Kate Flannery brilliance all 690 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 1: the way. And I was, you know, uh, I'm invited 691 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 1: all the time. Hey, I go to band, you want 692 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,320 Speaker 1: to come see my band? And I'm like whatever, whatever, 693 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 1: But she kept inviting me. And one night I happened 694 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 1: I was going to be at this club in Hollywood 695 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 1: to see some other girl and just somebody I was 696 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 1: hanging out with. And then um, I said, well, I'm 697 00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: busy on Saturday. And I got, well, what time because 698 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:01,839 Speaker 1: the thing I was going to was later. She goes 699 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 1: eight o'clock. I go, oh, I can make that work. 700 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 1: And I go, uh, where's it at? She goes right 701 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 1: on Hollywood Buever. I go, We're on Hollywood Blue. Where 702 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,359 Speaker 1: she goes, it's in in prov Olympic. I go, that's 703 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: where I'm going to be at ten o'clock to that 704 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 1: same night, I said, this is meant to be and um, 705 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 1: we you know, it's funny. She she knew I had kids, 706 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,240 Speaker 1: she didn't know if I was divorced or married, and uh, 707 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 1: after the show, we went and got a drink, and 708 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 1: five minutes in, I'm like, you and I should be dating, 709 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: and I am not that smooth. I had never said 710 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,359 Speaker 1: that to anybody else, but I had connected with her 711 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 1: in such a way, and I knew she was brilliant. 712 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 1: I think she was very attracted to me. She invited 713 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 1: me a lot, and she invited you a lot. Yeah, 714 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: like every time it was, and it was she used 715 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,799 Speaker 1: to do it every Saturday night. So but I think 716 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 1: the one moment that that we first had eye contact 717 00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 1: is I used to go around like for almost every 718 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 1: time I was there, I would do portraits to you guys, 719 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 1: just because that's always really good filler if they're going 720 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: to do a story or whatever. And I think this 721 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 1: one time I don't even remember, but it was the 722 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 1: Christmas episode of TV Guide. They were going to do 723 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,240 Speaker 1: photos of everybody because it was the show was picking 724 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,400 Speaker 1: up steam, and there's a picture of her holding up 725 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 1: a Santa Claus doll and uh. And other times I 726 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 1: got her pulling a bottle of vodka of the out 727 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 1: of the thing, looking up at me and just she 728 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 1: was adorable and um, it's funny. I met her as 729 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,759 Speaker 1: Meredith and then I saw her as her character on 730 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 1: stage and I'm like, and my friends like, look at her, 731 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 1: and I'm like, take it easy, take it easy. And 732 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 1: then she comes out walking like Kate Flanner. I'm like, 733 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,319 Speaker 1: now we're talking. That's why five minutes and I go, 734 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 1: you and I should be dating. You said that to her. 735 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 1: That is amazing. Apparently a recent interview she gave, she 736 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 1: said that the two of you are like Jim and 737 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:59,279 Speaker 1: Pam because you worked together but didn't start dating until 738 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 1: the end of season too. Yeah, that's about it. That's 739 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 1: about right, yea. But she was never as mean to 740 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:11,719 Speaker 1: me as Pam was to Jim. Just kidding, I'm just 741 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 1: talking storyline here. Yeah, in the in the finale of 742 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 1: The Office, um, Greg, let you dance with Meredith during 743 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 1: Dwight and Angela's wedding. How cool is that? You know, 744 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,280 Speaker 1: Kate wanted me in the wanted me in the show, 745 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,319 Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, whatever, you know, I didn't think 746 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 1: it was gonna happen. And then she wanted me to 747 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,319 Speaker 1: be I think would be one of the cops that 748 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,399 Speaker 1: takes crete out at the end, but those were real 749 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 1: motor cops that stopped traffic for us. Those are real 750 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 1: L A. P. D guys. Um. So I was fine, 751 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,359 Speaker 1: you know, with just being her her boyfriend at the 752 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,880 Speaker 1: at the wedding, and then you know, end up they 753 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,840 Speaker 1: gave me a line in the warehouse when Pam reveals 754 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 1: her mural, and which here's a great story. She's gonna 755 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,360 Speaker 1: be so mad when I tell you this. So Copus 756 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 1: comes up and he goes, hey, just say what a 757 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 1: photographer would say, Oh yes, sir, And uh so, Pam's like, 758 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,320 Speaker 1: all right, anybody, let's do this photo. And then everybody 759 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 1: gets in and I said, all right, everybody right here. 760 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 1: That looks great. That looks great, you know. And then 761 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 1: they cut and Kate goes and you're all standing right there, 762 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 1: and this was a nervous moment for me anyway, and 763 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:26,399 Speaker 1: Kate goes, you can't talk, and I was just like 764 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 1: I was told I can talk. And all of a sudden, 765 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,399 Speaker 1: Kelly Cantley, who's this tall, walks through and she goes, 766 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 1: you can talk, and she looks at her she goes, 767 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 1: he can talk, and then she she takes off and 768 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 1: then uh, Kate was just like oh no, oh no. 769 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 1: So and then what happened was they didn't have a 770 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 1: funny enough line, and Greg brought me into a d 771 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,800 Speaker 1: R and I think you might have been there. I 772 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 1: don't know, no was it was Angela, but they wanted 773 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,319 Speaker 1: to add um, just a couple of dozen more, which 774 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,880 Speaker 1: a photographer would never say, because the whole reason I 775 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't say that this is because you guys get bored 776 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 1: with what's happening and you go upstairs brilliant writing. And 777 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 1: so I meant, I'm at Universal one day and they're like, 778 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:10,800 Speaker 1: you need to go do a d R. I'm like what. 779 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,239 Speaker 1: And I went in and Angela is doing her thing 780 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:17,359 Speaker 1: and then for some reason, Brian and God bless actors, man, 781 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 1: God bless you guys. I could not say that line 782 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 1: to save my life. I was. I was a bumbling idiot. 783 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 1: It was like I had a couple, just a couple 784 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 1: dozen more, And and Greg got right here and he's like, 785 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,840 Speaker 1: say it, say it, You could say it. And I 786 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 1: should have just put my full trust in this genius 787 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,840 Speaker 1: who I had watched for the last nineteen years be 788 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:42,360 Speaker 1: the most absolute genius. And I and finally I mumbled 789 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,920 Speaker 1: it out. And the moment I'm done, he's all right, 790 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,759 Speaker 1: we got it. And I turned and Rain does like 791 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 1: a cop kick in the door and he's screaming my 792 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:52,800 Speaker 1: line because he was coming in to do a d 793 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,880 Speaker 1: R after me, and I'm like, I'm like, let's just 794 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 1: have Rain do it. You know. It was a funny moment, 795 00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:02,920 Speaker 1: but my god, I felt like an idiot. That's amazing. 796 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 1: Do do when you're out with Kate? Do people make 797 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:13,719 Speaker 1: jokes to you about about dating Meredith? They don't even 798 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 1: see me? No, you know a few things have happened since. Well, 799 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,240 Speaker 1: first of all, when Syndication happened, when it started hitting 800 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 1: regular uh like a cable thing, uh, Kate started getting 801 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,360 Speaker 1: bothered all the time by so many people. And then 802 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 1: when it hit Netflix, she was mid byte and people 803 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,440 Speaker 1: would stop and say, can we get a photo of 804 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 1: that kind of thing? But now people are stopping me 805 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:45,840 Speaker 1: like if it's it doesn't happen all the time. But 806 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,040 Speaker 1: somebody goes, hey, weren't you in the finale? I saw 807 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,480 Speaker 1: you in the finale and the oven like, oh my god. 808 00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,759 Speaker 1: It's really weird for me because I'm all about you know, 809 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 1: I can spot somebody spotting Kate from a mile away, 810 00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:58,719 Speaker 1: and we have a little code word which I'm not 811 00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,200 Speaker 1: going to tell you, but it's from the show. I'm 812 00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 1: not I'm not going to private. I'm gonna tell you private. 813 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 1: You'll find out private. But um I let her know, Okay, 814 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 1: in coming, you know what I mean. So, but that's 815 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:18,759 Speaker 1: not the code word. What's the code not gonna will 816 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:23,840 Speaker 1: be mad at me if I tell you. Um, well, listen, 817 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 1: I've been talking to people, you know for now the 818 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,719 Speaker 1: last couple of years, which has been amazing, and how 819 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,359 Speaker 1: willing people are now after eight years of the show 820 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,560 Speaker 1: being done talking about it. And as you just mentioned, 821 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:42,400 Speaker 1: you know, the sustained not just success, but you know, 822 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:46,279 Speaker 1: as I say, not just survived, but it's thriving now 823 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,879 Speaker 1: all of this time later and this exploration that I've 824 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:55,720 Speaker 1: been going through. Now we have collected it all together 825 00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,239 Speaker 1: and uh, and we're coming out with a book that's 826 00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:04,080 Speaker 1: going to be launched really soon. And you are a 827 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:11,040 Speaker 1: huge part of that book because there are hundreds of 828 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 1: never before seeing photos that you took on set in 829 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,880 Speaker 1: some of the most intimate moments during the show. So 830 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,920 Speaker 1: when we started talking about photos for the book, I went, 831 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 1: wait a second. There was a cast book that I 832 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,760 Speaker 1: understand you helped put together at the end of the show. 833 00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:32,920 Speaker 1: That was like it was one of those things like 834 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,200 Speaker 1: right in front of me the whole time. It's like 835 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,360 Speaker 1: right in my living room on my coffee table. It 836 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 1: has been for the last eight years. And so I 837 00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,560 Speaker 1: started looking through a book. How did how did that 838 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:47,160 Speaker 1: come about? That that creation of that amazingly beautiful book. 839 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,960 Speaker 1: That happens a lot, like when Willie and Grace was 840 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,400 Speaker 1: wrapping up, I did, Uh, I did that. Almost every 841 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,880 Speaker 1: show doesn't now, And I think that that is the 842 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,839 Speaker 1: greatest gift you can get as a rap gift. I mean, 843 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,360 Speaker 1: that's the great the great thing about being a photographer 844 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 1: in general. Like even if you're at a party or 845 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,200 Speaker 1: an event, you're going to talk to every single person 846 00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 1: in the room. That was my chance to work with 847 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,080 Speaker 1: every person, and a lot of people try to ditch 848 00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 1: you and not you know, but I was pretty sneaky 849 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,839 Speaker 1: and I was able to get people. But yeah, that's 850 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,239 Speaker 1: that's always something really fun to do. It's a so 851 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,560 Speaker 1: much work, especially at the end of a run. But uh, 852 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,960 Speaker 1: it's yeah, like what you're saying right now, it's like 853 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:30,319 Speaker 1: it's unbelievable. Well, it's it's so it's so beautiful and 854 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 1: so for you know, the last eight years, when people 855 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,600 Speaker 1: you know, come over to my house and we're talking 856 00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,960 Speaker 1: about the show, always refer to the book and they 857 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:41,719 Speaker 1: look through it and they're like, oh my god, I 858 00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:46,000 Speaker 1: can't believe you have these photos. Well, now everyone in 859 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,279 Speaker 1: the world can't come to my house to look at 860 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,040 Speaker 1: my book. But now so many of these photos are 861 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,520 Speaker 1: going to be in this book. And so I'm we're 862 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,920 Speaker 1: gonna I feel like Conan O'Brien here, but we're gonna 863 00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 1: play a little game. All right, We're gonna play game. 864 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:09,040 Speaker 1: Describe that picture hashtag, hashtag copyright, hashtag Brian Baumgartner, hashtag 865 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,799 Speaker 1: the Office, deep dive. I don't know if that covers it, 866 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna make these photos available on my Instagram 867 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:16,959 Speaker 1: so other people can can mention it. But I'm gonna 868 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,640 Speaker 1: show you a series of photos and this can be 869 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,279 Speaker 1: fast round. You can say one word, you can describe 870 00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,840 Speaker 1: something that you remember from some of these iconic photos 871 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:31,319 Speaker 1: of the show. So the first photo Steve Carrell sitting 872 00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,720 Speaker 1: at what looks like a dinner party with the st 873 00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:39,440 Speaker 1: Holy girl. Uh, you know, light up thing behind that 874 00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,959 Speaker 1: sign was so bright, man, it was so bright, which 875 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 1: was the joke but in a still or you want 876 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,600 Speaker 1: the actor to look good, so the signs blown out. 877 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,560 Speaker 1: That was one of the most unforgettable nights of my life. 878 00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,920 Speaker 1: I can't even believe how hard we left. And and 879 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,000 Speaker 1: that's hard when as the photographer, man, there were tears. 880 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,520 Speaker 1: Just my whole shirt was wet from just laughing so 881 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:05,759 Speaker 1: hard with that stupid TV, the plasma TV. Yeah, but 882 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 1: this was this was intense. You know, if I had 883 00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:12,960 Speaker 1: one word for this intense because that fight was intense, 884 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,520 Speaker 1: I'll try to give you one word answer. No, no, no, 885 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:20,160 Speaker 1: you can describe more. I'm just saying it can be fast. Okay, 886 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:29,160 Speaker 1: photo too, Oh Jesus Christ Meredith with intense infusing because 887 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,440 Speaker 1: it's never made. There was never a reason in the 888 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:35,680 Speaker 1: episode of why her face looked like she was dropped 889 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,200 Speaker 1: into a pizza oven. Okay, so so go ahead, you 890 00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,439 Speaker 1: can say this is her go ahead. Yeah, so there 891 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:46,840 Speaker 1: was she got was it sunburned or for extremely sunburned? 892 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,840 Speaker 1: And we even did a big shot I hope to 893 00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 1: not ruin another photo, but there's a group shot in 894 00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:56,799 Speaker 1: the warehouse and she looks like this, and um, there 895 00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:01,160 Speaker 1: was no explanation why because the storyline was cut so 896 00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,640 Speaker 1: I think a valuable lessons were learned during this episode 897 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,680 Speaker 1: that you know, if you have something like this, you 898 00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:13,520 Speaker 1: better back it up. Yes, do you. She's just as 899 00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:17,400 Speaker 1: beautiful there as the moment you met her. Beauty is 900 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:23,920 Speaker 1: skin deep. Brian, Oh no, no, no, she's she's she's lovely. 901 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:29,280 Speaker 1: She's lovely, all right. Photo three? Okay, a group of people, 902 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, around a giant one. Tell me about this. 903 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,279 Speaker 1: I think Phyllis's hair speaks for all of us. It 904 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:41,480 Speaker 1: was so hot and dusty there. Um, we were out 905 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:45,040 Speaker 1: at the Calamugos ranch, I think. And you guys, uh, 906 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,280 Speaker 1: usually when they cut a cake like this, they're telling 907 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:51,160 Speaker 1: you about your next pickup, and that might have been 908 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,960 Speaker 1: what happened this day. But all I know is I 909 00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,040 Speaker 1: never got any cake. You never got any cake, and 910 00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,279 Speaker 1: a gigantic cake like that. I know. This is this 911 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,799 Speaker 1: was the celebration of the hundredth episode, huge milestone in 912 00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:07,080 Speaker 1: a show huge. I've been there for hundreds of them. Yes, 913 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:11,359 Speaker 1: company company picnic and you see Greg they're cutting the cake. 914 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,959 Speaker 1: But yes, we were all we were all very very 915 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:21,240 Speaker 1: very very hot out there in Malibu, alright. Picture four, 916 00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:25,719 Speaker 1: Oh Jesus, yeah, that was scary Will Ferrell dunking a 917 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,560 Speaker 1: basketball over me sitting on the ground. What do you 918 00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:32,440 Speaker 1: remember about this day? You know what, Brian, and it's 919 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,400 Speaker 1: I'm not bullshitting you, but I could have easily shot 920 00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,719 Speaker 1: that in a way to see his face, but I 921 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:42,040 Speaker 1: wanted you in there looking like you're about to get crushed. 922 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,759 Speaker 1: But yeah, this this was the shot to me, even 923 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,880 Speaker 1: though he used his right hand and covered his face. 924 00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,440 Speaker 1: That was a pretty crazy day. Yeah, that was a 925 00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:56,320 Speaker 1: classic Will Ferrell day where you keep you keep checking 926 00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:02,080 Speaker 1: yourself like is this really happening? Yes, he's amazing, He 927 00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:07,359 Speaker 1: is amazing. Alright, this picture here, picture five. This is 928 00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:12,160 Speaker 1: our final table Street. Yeah, that was I was crying 929 00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:15,440 Speaker 1: as hard then as I was when Steve left, but 930 00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,480 Speaker 1: just seeing everyone's emotion and everything else, and a lot 931 00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,960 Speaker 1: of you guys held it together. But again, I've been 932 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,400 Speaker 1: at a million of these things too, a million of 933 00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,439 Speaker 1: the last table read but this one, man, this was like, 934 00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:32,319 Speaker 1: you know, finding out that your grandparents are are both 935 00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,239 Speaker 1: gonna doctor or something. I always feel that way at 936 00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:36,759 Speaker 1: the end of the show. It's like there's a death 937 00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,480 Speaker 1: in the family, but we're still going to see each 938 00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:45,399 Speaker 1: other down the road. But it's always that sad. Yeah, 939 00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,239 Speaker 1: and a lot of people have this photo and yeah, 940 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,799 Speaker 1: well Chris Workman called me and said, hey, I'd love 941 00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,560 Speaker 1: to do this gift for the cast, and uh, he 942 00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,560 Speaker 1: blew it up big. But I remember I walked around 943 00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:59,200 Speaker 1: the entire room made sure you get all the faces. 944 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:03,839 Speaker 1: But this one has so many great expressions and and 945 00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,880 Speaker 1: it was you know, and Chris just blew it up 946 00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,880 Speaker 1: for everybody, and it's fantastic. I'm sure it's hanging in 947 00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:14,520 Speaker 1: everyone's house. And that's how I I love too, to 948 00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,440 Speaker 1: judge my work by not how much money I make 949 00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,520 Speaker 1: or where my pictures are published, but where they're hanging. 950 00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:25,800 Speaker 1: That's important to me. That's awesome. Yeah, alright, picture six 951 00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:31,160 Speaker 1: and seven, oh Man, rough night. H That was a 952 00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,600 Speaker 1: very touching moment when she took that off the wall. Um. 953 00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:38,040 Speaker 1: But you know, I everyone always posts pictures like the 954 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:42,200 Speaker 1: one on the right of you know, when Steve left, 955 00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,800 Speaker 1: I shot that famous shot at him with the slate 956 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:48,600 Speaker 1: and uh, and I got a wide shot and everyone 957 00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:53,319 Speaker 1: are bawling their eyes out so hard. This was the 958 00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:57,960 Speaker 1: equivalent of that. I do have another picture of Pam 959 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,080 Speaker 1: doing the very last shot was Ham's talking head. It 960 00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,640 Speaker 1: doesn't appear and the show. That is the last thing 961 00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,120 Speaker 1: that I think her taking the picture. No, it's as 962 00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:11,240 Speaker 1: by the tree outside, right, But anyway, I was outside 963 00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,600 Speaker 1: of the conference room and I have a photograph of 964 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:19,400 Speaker 1: everyone's silhouetted watching that final Have I not sent that 965 00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,560 Speaker 1: to you? It's everyone watching her talking head through the 966 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,880 Speaker 1: window of the conference room. It's a beautiful shot. I 967 00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,359 Speaker 1: haven't seen it, but I'll send it to I'll send 968 00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:33,080 Speaker 1: it to Yeah, Chris, thank you so much, oh, my 969 00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:37,560 Speaker 1: pleasure for talking, for being so candid and open about 970 00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,400 Speaker 1: your no, your experience not just on our show, but 971 00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:45,840 Speaker 1: but your time at NBC. I appreciate you and your friendship. 972 00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,520 Speaker 1: So thank you so much for coming in and talking 973 00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:52,480 Speaker 1: to me. Pleasure and pleasure. Yeah, onwards and upwards to 974 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:58,879 Speaker 1: the next show, right to the next on NBC. I'm 975 00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:00,800 Speaker 1: not sure if I don't think will ride to that occasion, 976 00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:15,879 Speaker 1: but we'll see, all right. Thanks, Thanks buddy, and there 977 00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:20,240 Speaker 1: you have it. What a guy, Chris Daddy. Oh, it 978 00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,920 Speaker 1: was so great having you on. Thank you for sharing 979 00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,600 Speaker 1: your story with all of us. And I know that 980 00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,840 Speaker 1: you're a fan of this podcast. So my only question 981 00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,800 Speaker 1: is after today what is your favorite episode? To all 982 00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,920 Speaker 1: of you listeners out there, thanks for coming back now. 983 00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:39,800 Speaker 1: If you come back next Tuesday, then you'll find we'll 984 00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,439 Speaker 1: be talking to another man that you all have been 985 00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:47,120 Speaker 1: dying to hear from. Hint, his first name starts with 986 00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:51,440 Speaker 1: the same letter as Chris's. Five seconds. Okay, I'll tell 987 00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:56,280 Speaker 1: you it's Craig. Craig Robinson, the funniest man I have 988 00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:01,280 Speaker 1: ever seen on a stand up stage. That's right, Mr 989 00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:11,720 Speaker 1: Darryl Philbin himself. But until then, have a great week everyone. 990 00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:16,480 Speaker 1: The Office. Deep Dive is hosted and executive produced by 991 00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:22,000 Speaker 1: me Brian Baumgartner, alongside our executive producer Langley. Our producers 992 00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:25,520 Speaker 1: for this episode are Liz Hayes and Diego Tapia. My 993 00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:29,320 Speaker 1: main man in the booth is Colin Tadeshi. Our theme 994 00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:33,240 Speaker 1: song Bubble and Squeak performed by my great friend Creed Bratton, 995 00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,280 Speaker 1: and the episode was mixed by seth Olandski