1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to the Two Pros and a 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Cup of Joe podcast with LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, and 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: myself Jonas Knox. Make sure you catch us live weekdays 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: six to nine am Eastern Time three to six am 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 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What do you think about LaVar 26 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: and his new show named Black and Drack. 27 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: What do you think about it? Yeah? 28 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know when Brady gonna come back. 29 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 3: You're gonna have to add a horse. 30 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: Dang, dangang. All right, So Pete, we were talking about just, 31 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: you know, the old school I saw I saw a 32 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: clip and I was watching this morning of an old 33 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: NFL game, and they showed some guy getting lit up 34 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: on a crack back block on a punt return, and 35 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: it just got us talking about like old school football. 36 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: How often do you find yourself looking at old highlights 37 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: and going, well, that wouldn't be allowed today. 38 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 3: I don't know, I mean a lot. I guess it 39 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 3: was really hard to be calling games through those rule changes, 40 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 3: if you know what I mean. Like, it was really 41 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 3: hard because when I first started calling games, everything was 42 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 3: pretty much there, you know, all the crackbacks, all the 43 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 3: cut blocks, everything, setting up a guy on the end 44 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 3: of the line and cracking back on him. Not even 45 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: in like a special team situation, but you know, just 46 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 3: just lining a guy up and cracking him back in 47 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 3: the way that a play is designed, which used to 48 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 3: be very kosher. We would try not to run and 49 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 3: practice that much against our own guys unless it was 50 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 3: somebody we didn't like. But that stuff was all in 51 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 3: play when I first started calling games. And then they 52 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 3: started to litt eight that stuff out of the game. 53 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 3: And I'm not here to say that they're wrong to 54 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 3: do it. I think that I think that they've made 55 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 3: football safer. I think I'm not exactly sure. I mean, 56 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 3: everybody's still big, strong and fast as hell, and there's 57 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 3: still a lot of really really intense collisions out there, 58 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 3: but a lot of that stuff has gone. And it 59 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 3: was really hard for the first few years to watch 60 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 3: somebody wear a call like a fifteen yard call that 61 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 3: was considered to be good football and it would change games, 62 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 3: you know, it would make a first down on a 63 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 3: drive and something like that, or heard a drive and 64 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 3: heard a team. But it was really hard for me 65 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 3: growing up with football the way I grew up and 66 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 3: being a run game defense kind of oriented guy son 67 00:03:55,000 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 3: of a defensive coordinator, it was hard to see that 68 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 3: stuff litigated out and to be like, well, okay, that's 69 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 3: it first down in twenty five now, I mean that 70 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 3: was that was I remember I had a visceral reaction 71 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 3: kind of to not liking it. 72 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 2: But at the same time, you have to call the game. 73 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 3: You can't just sit there and be a little bit 74 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 3: about it for the next three or four series just 75 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 3: because you didn't like something that happened in the game, 76 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 3: and you're just there to call the game. You're not 77 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 3: You're not there to tell people how to feel about it. 78 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 3: And it took me a while, it did. I mean, 79 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 3: I don't know if you if you wanted that kind 80 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 3: of a deep answer from me, but it did. It 81 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 3: took me that. I think that's one of the hardest things. Well, 82 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 3: being on radio with me too, and then COVID and 83 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 3: then all the other stuff happening, racial divide and riots. 84 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 3: That stuff's not easy either because people are always asking 85 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 3: you to take one side of the other and why 86 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 3: haven't you spoken out about this? 87 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 2: And why haven't you spoken about that? 88 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 3: That's a challenge that that's been a challenge and in 89 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 3: work as well. But one of the biggest challenges to 90 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 3: me was was was dealing with the way they changed 91 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 3: the game, calling the games and being able. And you 92 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 3: know the other thing that would bother me about it 93 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 3: is you'd get people that never played that never played. 94 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 3: And that's okay. I mean if people that were I 95 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 3: are the only people that were interested in football, are 96 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 3: people that had looked through a face mask before in 97 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:30,239 Speaker 3: their lives, we wouldn't have jobs. So it's our job 98 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 3: to interpret the sport to others in many ways, and 99 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 3: I get that, But to have people that have never 100 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 3: played people on our crewise you know, people in the 101 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 3: production people play by play guys. 102 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 2: That their reaction, Oh this, this is savage, this is terrible. Now, 103 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 2: how could you allow that? Look? 104 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 3: He should be I should be bared for the game 105 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 3: forever once he doing, you know. I mean I used 106 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 3: to call a lot of I think we've talked about 107 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 3: it before, LeVar. I used to call a lot of 108 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 3: Vonte's perfect game in high school and college. And I 109 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 3: love that player. I mean, I knew he was crazy, 110 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 3: but I love the player. I love the way he 111 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 3: played defense, and I was inspired by it. And I'd 112 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 3: get in arguments with people this guy would either be 113 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 3: literated o the good you know, listening to guys like 114 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 3: that who don't understand what the sport is like, who 115 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 3: you're out there playing with, and what you're willing to 116 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 3: do for your teammates and what you're willing to take 117 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 3: for your teammates, and how quickly everything happens is usually 118 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 3: the main point I like to make. But it was 119 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 3: hard for me to have people sitting there telling you 120 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 3: what's right and wrong with the sport who have never 121 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 3: played the sport. So it took a lot of adjustment. 122 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 3: But one person that I'm really really grateful for is 123 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 3: Mike Pereira. You know, because Pereira, you guys see him. 124 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 3: You know, people see when I see you guys, I 125 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 3: mean listeners. 126 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 2: You know. 127 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 3: They they're used to seeing him sitting with Trom Brady 128 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,239 Speaker 3: or Troy Aikman and Joe Buck and now it's Brady 129 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 3: and Kevin, but either way, they're used to seeing him 130 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 3: on the big NFL games. 131 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 2: But people don't realize we have Peerra on our games. 132 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 3: Too, So he's sitting there all day and night, Saturday night, 133 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 3: Friday night, Thursday night, if we have a game, and 134 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 3: if it's not Pereira, it's Dean Blandino, who's excellent and 135 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 3: great to work with as well, and that the fact 136 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 3: that those guys are there. And I really love the 137 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 3: way Peira does it because he's not an over officious 138 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 3: jerk about it. 139 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 2: He's not. 140 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 3: He just wants to be able to explain it to 141 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 3: people and not argue in this and that. And you 142 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 3: just got to get out of the way and let 143 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 3: him go. And it helps so much, and it takes 144 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 3: you and your bias or whatever you feel about it 145 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 3: out of it, and he really helps. I mean, I 146 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 3: remember doing a game in Oklahoma State and it ended 147 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 3: up being the game of the week. They're playing Central 148 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 3: Michigan and there was a big controversy at the end, 149 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 3: big controversy about grounding. They gave the ball back to 150 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 3: an untimed down to Central Michigan and they were like 151 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 3: sixty yards out and I was like, those guys arms 152 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 3: are not good enough to make it to the end zone. 153 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 2: I was right. It caught it on the ten and. 154 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 3: Pitched it to a dude and he ran it in 155 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 3: and it was bedlam. The pardon to term in a 156 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 3: T Boon picking stadium T boone. People in the Big 157 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 3: twelve office that were supposed to be in the replay 158 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 3: office did not know the rule, the officials at the 159 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 3: game did not know the rule. 160 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: Pereira is the only guy that knew the rule. 161 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 3: So everybody in the building was an idiot except for 162 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 3: us on the broadcast, and that was only because of 163 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 3: Mike Pereira. So stuff like that has softened. 164 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 2: Me over the years. 165 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 3: But yes, to make a long story short, I was very, 166 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 3: very disturbed by the rule changes when they first started happening, 167 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 3: and thought that they were changing the sport completely. And 168 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 3: maybe you look at it right now and with all 169 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 3: the targeting stuff and stopping the game and looking at 170 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 3: it and what we're all used to, maybe they did 171 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 3: change the sport completely. But I was able to adapt 172 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 3: to it. I guess, just you know, to continue to 173 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 3: make a living. 174 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: Can I ask just a question to both of you guys, 175 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: and do you believe do you trust in your abilities 176 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: that you could have adapted to the newer football and 177 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: excel like the way you did back when you were 178 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: playing or were you meant for that time and this 179 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,719 Speaker 1: new era would not have been a good fit for it. 180 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 2: I think LeVar would be fine. 181 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,239 Speaker 3: Why you say that you're one of the best linebackers 182 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 3: in the history of college football. But I mean for me, yeah, 183 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 3: I'd have been fine. I mean, you know, I just 184 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 3: ran the ball. I mean, you know, you do what 185 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 3: the coaches tell you. And college football is so coach 186 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 3: oriented and everything is so I mean, once the game starts, 187 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 3: it's kind of chaotic, but there's a lot of there's 188 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 3: a lot of instruction going on. So it really has 189 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 3: more to do with the way they teach the game. 190 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 3: Part of the problem in college and part of the 191 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 3: reason we have such intense collisions and people don't realize 192 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 3: this is the hashmark placement, I mean the hash mark 193 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 3: placement between college and football, I mean pro football. They 194 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 3: make the games so different, and that's why all the 195 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 3: innovations in the sport generally come out of the college level, 196 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:39,239 Speaker 3: because you have innovative coaches, sometimes in very obscure places, 197 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 3: playing with that extra space that you get when you're 198 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 3: on the boundary. And that's how we got chip Kelly stuff. 199 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 3: That's how we got leeches stuff, That's how we got 200 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 3: gundy stuff, how mummies stuff, all the different things that 201 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 3: have been innovated in the sport over the years, it's 202 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 3: because of that extra space. You can also hide a 203 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 3: white guy safety on the boundary, Am I wrong? No, 204 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 3: you know, and that guy can get like to you 205 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 3: know that guy. 206 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 1: I haven't, but. 207 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 2: You know Iowa State. 208 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, they can put a guy on the boundary and say, wow, okay, 209 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 3: this guy can you know he can make fifteen tackles 210 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 3: in a game for us and not get exposed in 211 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 3: coverage because we only play him where there's not a 212 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 3: lot of field. I mean in the NFL. Yeah, when 213 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 3: they get tackled on the hash, there's more room to 214 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 3: the other side, but much less. 215 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 4: So. 216 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 3: What I'm trying to say is there's no there's no 217 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 3: way to get around people in the NFL. You have 218 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 3: to go kind of through them. Everybody's like, oh, the 219 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 3: guys are so fast, because it's like, well, yeah, they're 220 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 3: all They're also going a less amount of space. So 221 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 3: in college you get people really opening up their hips 222 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 3: and sprinting to the sideline, which creates vertical run lanes, 223 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 3: and that does really create big collision because of the 224 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 3: space and because the players are just so reckless and 225 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 3: kind of don't know what they're doing. The other element 226 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 3: that I really realized in college was I didn't care 227 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 3: about the other guy on the other side of the 228 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 3: line of scrimmage, like, I didn't care if his leg 229 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 3: fell off. Literally, you know I do now, But back then, 230 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 3: I wanted those. 231 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 2: Guys to be to suffer. 232 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 3: Arizona State, whoever we were playing, I hated, I hated 233 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 3: my opponent, hated our opponents, and you didn't know them, 234 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 3: and you didn't care if their head flew clean off. 235 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 3: And in the NFL, guys, you know, everybody's making money. 236 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 3: People tend to want to stay off each other's legs. 237 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 3: People understand the value of being able to stay out 238 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 3: there and playing the game in a cleaner way. In college, 239 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 3: we didn't care. We wanted everybody to die, seriously, because 240 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 3: we were out there suffering. So more space, more speed, 241 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 3: innovations and the sport idiot young people playing. 242 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 2: And the rules changing. 243 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 3: All of those things have happened over the last few 244 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 3: years that we've been discussing. But yeah, the space on 245 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 3: the field I think leads to bigger collisions at the 246 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 3: college level as well. 247 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 5: Speaking of rules and different things at the college level. Obviously, 248 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 5: hanging out an opportunity to talk to you. Since the 249 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 5: House versus the NCAA deal, you know, has continued to progress, 250 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 5: how are you feeling about it. I mean, do you 251 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 5: feel as though you know that decision taking place and 252 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 5: now being official, that there is the amount of money 253 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 5: that the universities will you know. 254 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: Have the. 255 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 5: Option of how to use it on the student athletes? Like, 256 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 5: do you feel like it can improve college football? 257 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: Is this? 258 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 5: Is this going in the right direction? How are you 259 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 5: viewing it? 260 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 2: It has to be there. 261 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 3: I mean, I think it'll be chaos, but that's not 262 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 3: any different than what we deal with. And I think 263 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 3: it will probably end a lot of the the fun, 264 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 3: smaller school type of stuff in the sport. 265 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 2: Maybe I'm not really sure. I'm not. I don't think 266 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 2: anybody really. 267 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 3: Knows how it's gonna look, because I mean most people, 268 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 3: if you just talk to casual people on the street 269 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 3: that think that they're sports fans, and they are, and 270 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 3: they'll say, well, college is great now. All the players 271 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 3: are getting paid, right, It's like no, And even if 272 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 3: they are getting paid, they're not getting paid by who 273 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 3: they should be getting paid by. I mean, the universities 274 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 3: are still shoveling these billion dollar TV deal revenues straight 275 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 3: into their coffers without any play. All they pay is 276 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 3: the coaches. I mean that's the only thing they have 277 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 3: to pay, and for the stadium and all that stuff. 278 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 3: The one thing that's the biggest commodity in the sport 279 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 3: the players and the guys between the lines competing that 280 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 3: make up your college football program. They're the ones that 281 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 3: aren't getting paid, and they're the ones that generate that 282 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 3: billion dollars in revenue or whatever it is. So it's 283 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 3: always been backwards. The same people that we've had paying 284 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 3: the players under the table for many years, of course, 285 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 3: are the same people paying them above board now. So 286 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 3: the university are still making out like bandits, although they 287 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 3: now have these nil collectives they have to deal with. 288 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 3: We are in a new territory where you know how 289 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 3: the NFL is in a new territory where all the 290 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 3: second rounders are holding out right, Well, we're in new 291 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 3: territory in college football because Wisconsin's nil collective is suing 292 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 3: Miami's an IL collective and that's never happened before. I 293 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 3: think it's over a dB after signing his deal, Bailey 294 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 3: I think is his name, so and that's unprecedented. So 295 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 3: now you know, we're starting to get a little bit 296 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 3: more uniformity and like, hey, you're here you can't go. 297 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 3: You know, the portal is closed for you. You know 298 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 3: that kind of stuff. And I mean, I'm not smart enough. 299 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 3: It's obviously an intelligent question. I'm not smart enough to 300 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 3: tell you what it's all going to look like when 301 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 3: the bureaucrats get done with it. 302 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 5: But it happens, I'm not sure the smart people will 303 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 5: be able to answer that right now today, to be 304 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 5: honest with you. 305 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 3: But I will say this philosophically. With so much money 306 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 3: being made. I mean, there's always been a lot of 307 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 3: money being made in college football by the universities, and 308 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 3: it's always been a little bit of a well kept secret. 309 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 3: But you know, in the last twenty years or whatever, 310 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 3: the pile of money that they just keep putting behind 311 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 3: them or shoving under the carpet looks like you're hiding 312 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 3: like a giant camel under the carpeter. Right, there's so 313 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 3: much money, so that the money's gotta be used for 314 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 3: something other than paying players and building for I mean, 315 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 3: paying coaches and. 316 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: Building for self and homes. 317 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's seriously, it's it should be used. It should 318 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 3: be used to pay the players. So I mean to 319 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 3: say that they're trying to get that done and not 320 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 3: say that they're going in the right direction would be wrong. 321 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 3: I feel as if they're going in the right direction. 322 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 3: But I don't trust bureaucracy. Uh, you know, the bureaucracy 323 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 3: of the government's one thing, and then you get all 324 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 3: these universities that are filled with bureaucrats, and it's kind 325 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 3: of hard to figure how things are going to end up. 326 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 3: But I do believe, Yeah, we we have to pay 327 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 3: players some kind of baseline salary. We need, you know, 328 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 3: some kind of uniformity in that. But we can't even 329 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 3: get people to agree on how many freaking conference games 330 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 3: they got to play. 331 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 2: So we'll we'll. 332 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: See, Petrus. We were talking about Deonchay. 333 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 2: To Jonas's point the other day. 334 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 3: Our off season sucks the worst, the worst, absolutely sucks. 335 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,959 Speaker 1: It's miserable. It's a portal nil automatic. 336 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 3: Qualify for the Dodgers were throwing Japanese parties with every 337 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 3: guy they signed. You know, in the NFL, you know 338 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 3: people are and Roger Goodell like people like him, and 339 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 3: they don't you know, at the draft. Everybody's got the 340 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 3: off season figured out. 341 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: But us I did like the the Asahi read during 342 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: the Dodger broadcast on the blow tour yesterday. 343 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 3: Though Jim Kates has got every every Japanese read in. 344 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 2: The world and Green Tea. He really does. 345 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 3: So we were talking about then she sushi ready made 346 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 3: sushi at the Rouse Star. 347 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 348 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: And by the way, I say, you guys a pick 349 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: of it. I saw it at Ralph's. I said, you 350 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: guys don't know about place? 351 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 5: Then she do you guys know about the sushi place 352 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 5: that was on the the What is it? 353 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: Stars? The Midas? Not Midas? What what are Michelin Michelin Stars. 354 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 5: They took him off because it's in a train station 355 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 5: and it's so exclusive that they don't care how much 356 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 5: money you have. It's like they're booked out for months, 357 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 5: you know what I'm talking about. I forget his name. 358 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 3: I don't know, but I know a friend of mine 359 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 3: got a Michelin Star, the first Michelin Star for a 360 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 3: restaurant in the South Bay and he's in a little 361 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 3: strip mall. He'll serve anybody, but it was it's not 362 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 3: a sushi plays. 363 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 1: I don't even understand the Michelin star stuff. I didn't 364 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: even know that was a thing until Lee brought it up. 365 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 2: When I was a kid. You know my father's restaurant. 366 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 3: We had the Zaggat uh, the Zaggut ratings, you know, 367 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 3: the Zaggat book. 368 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 2: That was a thing. Maybe some people know it. 369 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 3: It was kind of like the Thomas Guide for restaurants 370 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 3: when we were younger, and that was a big deal. 371 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 3: I mean we were we were a good we were 372 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 3: a great dinnerhouse. So we got invited to the banquets 373 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 3: and stuff with all the other you know, like Spago 374 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 3: and all the other Wolfgang Pocking. Yeah, he was their chef. 375 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 3: He was an old friend of the restaurant for many years. 376 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 3: A lot of those guys. 377 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 5: And the guy, Yeah, he's a really nice, super cool dude. 378 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 3: I mean I grew up around a lot one of 379 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 3: those guys, so we would, you know. And I was 380 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 3: even nominated as a waiter many years ago. So that 381 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 3: was the stuff we went to. But I don't think 382 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 3: we were arteesonal enough to be a Michelin restaurant. But 383 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 3: I don't remember when the Michelin star thing started. I'm 384 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 3: sure it's been happening for a long time, but I 385 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 3: only started hearing about it maybe about twenty years ago. 386 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 5: It's in Tokyo and the guy's name is Sekuyabashi Jiro. Yeah, 387 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 5: she'd keep with bush old Jero. I could ask my 388 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 5: little brother. My little brother is almost like a Japanese guy. 389 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 5: It's like the best sushi restaurant. He's a Japanese Greek 390 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 5: in the world. 391 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 3: He is. Dimitri's actually very uh. My little brother is well, 392 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 3: he's very Greek. In fact, he sings in Greek in 393 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 3: the church every week. But he's he's married to a 394 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 3: Japanese woman. There two little girls who go to Japanese school. 395 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: So what would that mix be called? 396 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:03,719 Speaker 2: Hop along? Anybody who's half Asian, they call him a papa. 397 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: Wait what Wait? 398 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 2: You guys have never heard the term hoppa? Hell. I 399 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 2: had a friend named Happy McGrath because he was half 400 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 2: a tag. 401 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 3: It's a term uh for uh racially mixed children. Usually 402 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 3: if you're like half Hawaiian or half Japanese. 403 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: Or my son's half white half Mexican. Is he he 404 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: doesn't count. 405 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 2: He's just a damn. 406 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: Damn it. It doesn't count. Sorry, he doesn't need to. 407 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 3: Maybe it does count. I don't know. 408 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: But we call him noxicans what we call him. That's fine. 409 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,360 Speaker 2: But he's also half vampire, don't. 410 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true that I come home, he's hanging upside 411 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: down again. 412 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 3: You gotta fly a nubis air like they did on 413 00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 3: a True Blow. But I, uh, yeah, they speak Japanese 414 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 3: beautifully and uh he knows the culture very well. 415 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 2: He lived there for a few years. 416 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: So I will ask him about it. About that rest Tokyo, 417 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 1: it's a it's in a train station. He'll know it well. 418 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 2: All the you know, all the dorks around here, you 419 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 2: know that come and work for Fox. You know they're 420 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 2: like you ever been to Sugarfish? 421 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 3: I love Sugarfish and went to Sugarfish with one of 422 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 3: the Fox executives that gun fired. 423 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 2: All right, it's great. 424 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 3: What to Sugarfish with Joy Taylor? She's so awesome. She 425 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 3: has such great hot takes. 426 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: We're sure kidd about X at the old p He 427 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 1: is Petro's Papadagcas. I'll see you later on today, Petros. 428 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 2: Yes, thank you. Jonas. 429 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 3: Jonas is going to be with me today and tomorrow 430 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 3: on AM five seventy. 431 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate the invite. 432 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 2: Do you want to be a co host? 433 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 1: I mean, you've never asked me. You never asked me. 434 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: How long is your show for today? 435 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? 436 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: Two and a half hours you've never asked. No, no, yeah, if. 437 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 2: The co host list is. 438 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 3: Expansive, you want to come in and work another three 439 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 3: hours of radio? 440 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: Hey, bro, I like talking radio. 441 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 2: Will you drive to Burbank? 442 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: Uh? That's you see? You got me there? Damn damn 443 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: try it. 444 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 3: No, we can try it out sometime. But but Jonas 445 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 3: is coming today. The Dodgers are in Colorado, so we'll 446 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 3: start it. 447 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: Too sweet, Okay, all right, So Petro, so you can 448 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 1: get them, don't I. 449 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 3: Mean, don't be that guy, I mean LeVar, don't be 450 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 3: like Hey, you can play me to the boundary. 451 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 2: You know, I'll run out there. 452 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: Now. You can put me in the middle of the defense, 453 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and we can. 454 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 2: We'll cover up both guards and you can just run into. 455 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: There you go. 456 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll come mess with you. Well if I can 457 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 5: use my comrades. 458 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 3: If we do bring you in, I will make sure 459 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 3: both guards are covered. Okay, so you can run free. Perfect, 460 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 3: they're not stemming to you. 461 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: Perfect backer backer eleven eleven eleven. 462 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 2: There he is. 463 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, there is how. 464 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 2: Much we're gonna do. 465 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 3: Did I ever tell you we played Penn State Jonas 466 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 3: the game the first game that they were that. 467 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 2: They had without LeVar. 468 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 3: So two thousand was the first two thousands in the NFL, 469 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 3: and we played him in the first game of two thousand. 470 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 3: So you're watching all the film from ninety nine. There's 471 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 3: there's nothing to look at from two thousand, and our 472 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 3: coaches had to reiterate to us every time the film 473 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 3: came on. Listen, this guy's not there anymore. Don't worry 474 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 3: about this. 475 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. 476 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 2: We're like, God, damn nice. All right, all right, they 477 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 2: got some other guys, but this one is not there. 478 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 5: That's how we felt when we played Arizona. We were 479 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 5: looking at Chris mccallis to read like, oh he was great, 480 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 5: Like yeah, no, he's not there anymore. 481 00:24:58,400 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 2: Great. We got a corner. 482 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, we got it, big corner like Albert Lewis out there. 483 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: Dale Carter, Dale, Carter, Yeah, I appreciate to come right Patrick, 484 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: all right, well, you know I'll be sure to listen 485 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: to you guys today. Yeah, Ben, stay right there. He 486 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: is the great Petroday just the co host of the 487 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 1: Petro Some Money Show, which you can't here on the 488 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: blow Torch and five seventy l a Sports Fox college 489 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: football analyst, get him on X at the old pe 490 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 1: but that one of the greatest college football linebackers of 491 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: all time. Look at you? Whoa whoa? Now look at you. 492 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 1: You were unaware of that? 493 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 2: No I knew that. 494 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: Just it's fun to reiterate that some people know, just 495 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 1: in case people. 496 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 5: I was somebody in a previous life. Man, then I 497 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 5: was reduced to doing radio with you and Q. 498 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 2: Damn where are they now? 499 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 1: He's doing radio? He doesn't even get to go to Burbank. 500 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 1: They fill the bar, sit next to Count Chocolate three 501 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 1: in the morning town no milk app all right? Coming 502 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: up next here on Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, 503 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 1: we are going to find out why, uh, the league 504 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 1: feels a certain way about one player in the NFL 505 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 1: that's yours here on FSR. 506 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 2: Be sure to. 507 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 6: Catch live editions of Two Pros and a Cup of 508 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 6: Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and Jonas Knox weekdays 509 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 6: at six am Eastern three am Pacific on Fox Sports 510 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 6: Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 511 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: Hi, This is Jay. 512 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 4: I'm the producer of the Paula and Tony Fusco Show. 513 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 4: Usually in these promos they ask you to listen to 514 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 4: the show I'm here to ask you please don't listen 515 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 4: to the show. The hosts are two absolute morons who 516 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 4: have the dumbest takes on sports imaginicable. Don't listen to 517 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 4: the show so it can get camp the. 518 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 2: Get him Paul, Ignore that fool. 519 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: Listen to the Paul Tony Fusco Show on the iHeartRadio 520 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: app or wherever you get your podcast. 521 00:26:55,080 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 2: He's Still Moving, No. No. 522 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: Two Pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio, 523 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here. We are going 524 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: to have another edition of The Lee's Leftovers coming up 525 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: in about twelve minutes from now here on Fox Sports Radio. 526 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 1: So we were talking about this collusion stuff that came 527 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: out in the NFL, and this was from earlier in 528 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: the show. We were discussing Pablo Torri got ahold of 529 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: the court documents the NFL. The NFLPA didn't want these 530 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: getting out apparently, but it was from a closed door meeting. 531 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: The NFLPA had brought a grievance against the NFL because 532 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: they were claiming collusion with Roger Goodell reportedly encouraging all 533 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 1: thirty two teams to reduce contract guarantees for veteran players 534 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,479 Speaker 1: at the March twenty twenty two owners meetings. The NFL 535 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: actually won the grievance, but you know, the arbiter did 536 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: find that quote. There was a little question at the 537 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: NFL Managent Council, with the blessing of the Commissioner, encouraged 538 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: the thirty two NFL teams to reduce guarantees and veterans 539 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: contracts at the March twenty twenty two annual Owners meeting. 540 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: And so one of the details of this that came 541 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 1: out was former NFLPA president J. C. Trettor trashing Russell 542 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 1: Wilson for his contract handling with the Broncos, saying that 543 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: he weakened the push for guaranteed contracts. And apparently J. C. Trettor, 544 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: in some text exchanges that he had with Demorris Smith, 545 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: called Russell Wilson all sorts of insults, called him a wuss, 546 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: and some other things, basically saying, you know, we were 547 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: trying to push for guaranteed contracts, yet this is the 548 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: guy who's going to ruin it for everybody. I basically 549 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: just went in on Russell Wilson and he's handling for 550 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: trying to get that guaranteed contract, and so that is 551 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: believed to be why there was some thought that this 552 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: was being hidden and had been hidden for months and 553 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: was so difficult to get hold of. Because the feeling was, 554 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: why wouldn't the NFLPA be running to push this out 555 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: there to let everybody know clearly there's evidence here of collusion. Clearly, 556 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: you know, we've got the arbiter saying that Roger Goodell 557 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: clearly gave the edict to owners to reduce guaranteed contract. Like, 558 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff here that would point to that. 559 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: Why would the NFLPA want this hidden? And the thought 560 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: is that JC Tretter was behind the NFLPA want to 561 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: get hidden because this is a bad look if somebody 562 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: from your union who represents your union is airing out 563 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: one of his own players and somebody else also from 564 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: the union in the way that he did when it 565 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: comes to Russell Wilson, and it just it just goes 566 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: to to the story of Russell Wilson can't catch a 567 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: break manes though every time I'm. 568 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 5: Just I'm confused, though, like why, I mean, I don't 569 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 5: understand why trash Russ over over this scenario, over this situation. 570 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: Help me, give me some more content because they were 571 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: they were pushing for guaranteed contracts, and Russell Wilson they 572 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: feel like didn't try hard enough, like that he didn't 573 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: he didn't do enough to push for that guaranteed contract 574 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: with the Broncos. And so because of that he got 575 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: aired out. And you know, if you're an if you're 576 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: an NFL owner and you're talking about well, you know, 577 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: if there's collusion, if there's this and that, you've got 578 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,479 Speaker 1: their PA you can't even get it together, and and 579 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: they're airing out their own player, and and you know, 580 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: clearly if owners were colluding against anybody, you've got the 581 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: NFL PA and their their president J C. Tretdter calling 582 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: people out. And apparently there's some that think this is 583 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: going to turn out bad for him because if he's 584 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: got ideas of going higher and higher and higher when 585 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: it comes to who knows, maybe you know, being the 586 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: next to Morris Smith, there's something down the line that 587 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: people will look back on this and go, why would 588 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: we want him to represent us when in the midst 589 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: of guaranteed contracts he went and aired one of us 590 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: out to somebody and then tried to hide it so 591 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: that nobody found. 592 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 5: Out about it. I mean that sounds like, you know, 593 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 5: it's just that situation to be in loose lips ships, right. 594 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: Some people have called it, you know, a little bit 595 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: kind of a snake in the grass move, you know 596 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: to if you're representing the union, you're you're there to 597 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: support everybody, and instead he's burying some guy in a 598 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: text exchange with Demorris Smith about you know, he's as 599 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: such and such and just did they talk about the 600 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: Morris his lips in that? I don't think so. I 601 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: think they left that, they kept they stayed away from that. Yeah, 602 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: they left it to somebody else. But this, but this 603 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: goes to show you back to the original point of 604 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: all this, when you find out how the stuff is 605 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: handled behind the scenes, when you find out how the 606 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: sausage is made, so to speak, and then you realize, oh, god, like, 607 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: it's a it's a dirty business. People are trashing each 608 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: other behind their backs. You've got owners colluding, you've got 609 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: all these other I just don't know how many people 610 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: nowadays look at this and go, oh, well, this is 611 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: a shocker. I thought everything was on the up and up, 612 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,479 Speaker 1: and I thought the NFL was filled with great guys 613 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: and owners wanted to do it the right way and 614 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: players had to do of course that are yes, that's 615 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: how it works. And I nothing that came out of 616 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: any of these documents makes me feel any differently about 617 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: the NFL, and I think there's a lot of people 618 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: who feel the same who go listen, it's great, it's 619 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: interesting that we know the behind the scenes of this 620 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: collusion case, but it's not going to stop us from 621 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: being ready to go when training camps over and we're 622 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: getting ready for the season, Like, nobody's gonna be like, 623 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: you know what, I can't watch this anymore. I now 624 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: know what they said about Russell Wilson in the NFLPA. 625 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: It's like, no, dude, nobody cares, like they just want 626 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:22,719 Speaker 1: to tell you. 627 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 5: Could you imagine in today's society and culture, if they 628 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 5: were actually able to hear how these conversations like how 629 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 5: they play out, they wouldn't be able to handle it, 630 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 5: And a lot of these people will have to be 631 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 5: selling their stock and their stake in the team because 632 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 5: there'd be so much public outrage. People too sensitive, people 633 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 5: are too soft anymore to handle what people say behind 634 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 5: closed doors. And so when you went and here's what's 635 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 5: the funniest aspect of it all, Jonas. Some of the 636 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 5: very there people that will call for, you know, the 637 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:07,959 Speaker 5: dismissal and sell the team and this is horrible and 638 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 5: what are they doing are the worst ones and the 639 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 5: way they communicate behind closed doors. But because they see 640 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 5: it from someone else, it doesn't apply to them. It 641 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 5: just applies to the people that got caught that are 642 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 5: relevant enough in those moments. You know, some of the 643 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 5: things like like just just coaching talk in general, and 644 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 5: how they talk, or how coaches talk to players and 645 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 5: meetings and stuff like that, or how owners and gms 646 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 5: and scouts, how they talk about players and things that 647 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 5: are said. It will I mean, it sounds like they 648 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 5: be crashing out, you know, so to me, the sensitivities 649 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 5: surrounding you know, what was said? So what so what 650 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 5: they talk bad about Russell Wilson, so what. Somebody's always 651 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 5: going to get talked nicely about. Somebody's always going to 652 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 5: get talked badly about. Sometimes that one person that got 653 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 5: talked badly about will find themselves in a different conversation 654 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 5: being talked about in a glowing, you know, positive manner. 655 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 5: Sometimes the one that was getting talked nice about gets 656 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 5: dog like, dog beat like, tongue lashed like whatever. 657 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,720 Speaker 1: I know a story about a guy who was playing 658 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 1: Major League baseball, a really good player, but he was 659 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: going into arbitration, and his wife wanted to go into 660 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: the arbitration meeting with him, and he told her no. 661 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 1: He's like, because you're not going to like what you 662 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 1: have to hear, because they're basically going to tell you 663 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 1: all the reasons why they're not going to give you 664 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 1: what you want. Like he's like, you're not ready for that. 665 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 1: This is it's a cruel conversation. They're going to point 666 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: out every flaw, every issue I have, every everything. You're 667 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: not ready for that, Like this is this is the 668 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,240 Speaker 1: behind the scenes, closed door stuff like this that people 669 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 1: on the outside just aren't aren't ready for. And so 670 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 1: I just I came to the conclusion a long time ago. Man, 671 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: it's entertainment, Like just keep me entertained. 672 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 5: They'd be claiming that they ready for it and that 673 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,760 Speaker 5: they can handle it, and you look at the news 674 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 5: and you see all of these things going on around 675 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 5: you know, the country. They they certainly most people would 676 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 5: not be able to handle the sensitive conversations that take place. 677 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, just they just wouldn't. 678 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 5: And so I mean even just locker room, just even players, like, 679 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 5: let's not even go up to to you know, to 680 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 5: the people up top, just talk about the players. If 681 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 5: you were able to listen to what a locker room 682 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 5: sounds like and the things people say in the locker room, oh, 683 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 5: you'd be like that guy should be fired. 684 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 685 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 5: These are the things they discuss when we're not in 686 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 5: front of the camera and on the raid. Oh my gosh, 687 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,479 Speaker 5: what despicable, disgusting people they are. 688 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of him anymore. Here some wow 689 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: s man. Two Pros and a couple of Jonas. What 690 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 1: do you mean you would make it in the lease. 691 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 2: Damn. 692 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Here on Fox 693 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,919 Speaker 1: Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Jonas NOx with you here. Coming 694 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: up next, We're going to close up shop on this 695 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 1: Wednesday morning with another edition of Lee's Leftovers right here 696 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: at FSR. 697 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 6: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 698 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 6: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington, and 699 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 6: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific. 700 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,959 Speaker 1: Two Pros and a Cup of Shoe here on Fox 701 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here, Black 702 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: and Drack coming to a close here on this Wednesday morning. 703 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: Before we get to Lee's leftovers, though, wonder remindable what 704 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: Right after the show, our podcast will be going out 705 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: Bullseye Am. 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The prosecution and defense have both rested after 716 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 7: did He confirmed his decision not to testify, So now 717 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 7: we just have to wait, wait and see what it 718 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 7: goes on for. 719 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 5: Are there are there bets on like level of guilty? Like, 720 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 5: are there are there is that on? Is that on 721 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:41,879 Speaker 5: the line? 722 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 7: I'm sure on some overseas places you can definitely find that. 723 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 1: Not Uh, you can't bet on that on like DraftKings 724 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 1: or anything like that. So no, not on drafting, not 725 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: on draft kings, I mean, would not be something to bet. 726 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,760 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe Brasers has a sports booker plus fifteen hundred 727 00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 1: that he won't serve any time. 728 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 7: I know that's what you're looking four right there? 729 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 2: Far What am I? 730 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 1: Why am I looking for that? 731 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 7: Fifteen won't sere any time you get paid more than 732 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 7: twenty years, but less than life is plus five hundred. 733 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:15,800 Speaker 5: Plus five hundred more than twenty less than life. Now 734 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 5: I'm going with less than what is it fifteen twenty 735 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 5: twenty fifty. 736 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 7: Plus fifteen Oh, for more than twenty years is plus 737 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:24,840 Speaker 7: five hundred. 738 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 1: He's getting less than twenty. So how long do they 739 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 1: think this is going to take to come to some 740 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 1: sort of conclusion? You never know what these kind of things. 741 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 7: It could be just a few hours, could be a 742 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 7: few days, and. 743 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,799 Speaker 5: Then they're coming back with a verdict correct theoretically, So 744 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 5: there's no like hung juries or anything like well that 745 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 5: we'll find that out now. But I mean, there was 746 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 5: some issues with the jury people, right there was. 747 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,240 Speaker 7: One one excuse, there might have been a second one because. 748 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 5: There was two, I believe, and they were both minorities, 749 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,720 Speaker 5: is what they were trying to raise as the point, 750 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 5: Like they're basically trying to say that it's going to 751 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,800 Speaker 5: be all white people judging P Diddy's black ass. 752 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: That's such a real pet peeve of mine. Yeah, that's 753 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 1: the real outcry here, not what he did. It's, uh, 754 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 1: the jurism, the fact that they got rid of the two. Yes, 755 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,760 Speaker 1: not what he's So basically. 756 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 5: If you're a minority, you can relate to all of 757 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,280 Speaker 5: the things that he did, and he's got a chance 758 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:19,959 Speaker 5: of getting off. 759 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, not. 760 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 7: All cases can have a hungry I looked it up. 761 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 1: This can this one can you can? Yeah? Uh, guys, 762 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 1: damn might be appropriate for that. I knew you was 763 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,320 Speaker 1: thinking something crazy. I knew you was the I knew 764 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 1: you was going to say something crazy like trying to 765 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 1: get to the bottom of this stuff here, all right, 766 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:42,959 Speaker 1: God what you said? 767 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 2: Lee? 768 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 7: Uh, Well, enjoy the NBA Draft tonight, fellas we all 769 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 7: know Cooper where Cooper Flag's going, and enjoy the rest 770 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 7: of it. 771 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:53,360 Speaker 1: And the draft tonight. I'm out of here.