1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 1: It's that time, time, time, time, Luck and load. Michael 2 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: Verie Show is on the air. 3 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 2: The sun may have set over our city this evening, 4 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 2: but as Eugene Debs once said, I can see the 5 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 2: dawn of a better day for humanity. I am young, 6 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 2: despite my best efforts to grow older. I am Muslim. 7 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 3: I am a. 8 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 2: Democratic socialist, and most damning of all, I refuse to 9 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 2: apologize for any of this. 10 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 3: We have to continue to elect more socialists, and we 11 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 3: have to ensure that we are unapologetic about our socialism. 12 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: There are also other issues. 13 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 3: That we firmly believe it, whether it's BDS or whether 14 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 3: it's the end goal of of season viz. 15 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 4: Production. I am a democratic socialist. I also wouldn't be 16 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 4: the first Democratic socialist mayor. 17 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: We've had a. 18 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 4: Number, and we've even had a mayor who is a 19 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 4: member of the Democratic Socialists of America. That's David Dinkins, 20 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 4: you know, not just a few decades ago. And people 21 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 4: ask me how can this interact with New York City 22 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 4: being the home of global finance? And I say, my 23 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 4: focus as a Democratic socialist is ensuring that every New 24 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 4: Yorker lives. 25 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: A dignified night. 26 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 4: We can establish community land trusts to gradually buy up 27 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 4: housing on the private market and convert it. 28 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 1: To community ownership. 29 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 4: We can give tenants to right of first refusal to 30 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 4: buy out their landlords when buildings go up for sale, 31 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 4: and we can fully commit to a new era of 32 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 4: social housing, ending subsidies for luxury housing development, and using 33 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 4: our wealth to build beautiful, high quality social housing projects 34 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 4: that offer good homes and strong communities to everyone. 35 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: We won't decommodify. 36 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 4: Housing overnight, but we know we have to do, and 37 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 4: we had history of God. 38 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: In seventeen seventy five and seventeen seventy six, United States 39 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: were not the United States. We were a series of 40 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: colonies Virginians, South Carolinians, and a war was fought and 41 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: won with our cousins and our king. Because we no 42 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: longer wanted him to be our king. We believed in 43 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: what was considered at the time of ridiculous notion, the 44 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: notion of self governance with no one above us but God. 45 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: At that time, that was a ridiculous notion, absurd, particularly 46 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 1: because the king wouldn't allow it. Why would he give 47 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: us up? We were his colonies, We paid his bills, weed, 48 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: we covered for his over runs and his over extended 49 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: empire well. Eventually, the war was won against all odds, 50 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,679 Speaker 1: and a few years later, in seventeen eighty seven, there 51 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: was a constitutional convention in Philadelphia. Everything was on the table. 52 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: What sort of government would we create? Some wanted to 53 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: replace the British king with George Washington, an American king. 54 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: He was a good man, he was our leader. He 55 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: was very popular, popular after a war. Think how popular 56 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: Trump is today without all the Trump's haters. Maybe there 57 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: was the desire for Washington to be a king and 58 00:03:53,640 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: therefore a monarchical government, so that that could happen. As 59 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: they met in the convention halls, our founding father as 60 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: we've come to call them, they're creating the bylaws for 61 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: this nation. And boy, did they ever outdo themselves. It's 62 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: amazing what they did. And Benjamin Franklin, I believe he 63 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: was eighty two at the time, senior statesman, elder, brilliant, 64 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: witty respected. As he was leaving Independence Hall, the wife 65 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: of the former mayor of Philadelphia, a woman by the 66 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: name of Elizabeth Willing Powell, sees him and she asked him, 67 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: mister Franklin, what have you got for us? That's the 68 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: way it's reported to some what have you got for us? 69 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: What have you done? Others have reported it as well, doctor, 70 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: what have we got a public? Or a monarchy? That's 71 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: how most historians write it, because it sounds better, well, doctor, 72 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: what have you got for us? A republic or a monarchy? 73 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: But there are versions that swear she actually asked, what 74 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: have you got for us? I don't know that it 75 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 1: matters because it's his answer that makes history, and that 76 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: is a republic, madam, if you can keep it. He 77 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: knew something very important, and that was the later words 78 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: of Alexander Fraser Tickler, who said, tell me this doesn't 79 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: describe New York City right now. A democracy cannot exist 80 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: as a permanent form of government. It can only exist 81 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: until the voters discover that they can vote themselves larges 82 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority 83 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from 84 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: the public treasure, followed sorry with the result that a 85 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by 86 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 1: a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations 87 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through 88 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: this sequence from bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith 89 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, 90 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to apathy, from apathy 91 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: to dependence, from dependence back into bondage. Socialism promises equality, happiness, prosperity, 92 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: and plenty. Socialism is bondage. You can't sell bondage to 93 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: people if you sold them what it will be. You 94 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: sell them that which you will bait and switch to 95 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: them later. But it is a very seductive cell. No, 96 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: we're not technically a pure democracy, but a republic is 97 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: an offshoot of a democracy. We just elect people who 98 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: vote for us. A republic if you can keep it. 99 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: New York shows how difficult that's going to be. 100 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 5: Michael, it will be interesting to look back in five 101 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 5: years and see what September tenth did to this country. 102 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: Will we say that our nation changed for the good? 103 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: Or will we say it was not only the death 104 00:07:56,280 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: of Charlie Kirk, it was the death of conversation, the 105 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: death of the exchange of ideas. I don't know. I've 106 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: never been much of a predictor. You know, sports shows, 107 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: you have to predict who's going to win. Doesn't matter 108 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: if you're right or not. If people want you to 109 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: take a side, I prefer to go back later and 110 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: see what happened and why. Just a different skill set, 111 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: different interests. So Charlie Kirk's assassination, you know how important 112 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: was Charlie to the organization? Could he be replaced if 113 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: in replacing him you also increased awareness ten x of TPUSA, 114 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: because I think he did. I had people telling me 115 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 1: I never heard a turning point before, so I went 116 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: and looked up Charlie Kirk's videos. It's pretty cool. Was 117 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: that simply a cult of personality? Because Charlie was a 118 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: once a century evangelist. The thing about Charlie is that 119 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: he was an evangelist, and he said that's how he 120 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: wanted to be remembered. I think that's very interesting, not 121 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: in a political context, as a Christian evangelist, and he was. 122 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: He was no less an evangelist than Billy Graham. What 123 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: made him interesting? You know, when Jesus goes into the temple, 124 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: the Bible is replete with examples of Christ ministering to, 125 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: not just evangelizing to, but ministering to people who were 126 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: outside of the hoypolloy of the upper sector, the upper crust, 127 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: people who are outside of the wealthy and socially prominent. Well, 128 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 1: in some ways, what Charlie was doing by speaking to 129 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: the youth was for many people outside that norm. I'll 130 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: have to look at the cross stabs of what happened 131 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: last night in Virginia, New Jersey, the New York City 132 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: mayor's race to really understand who showed up to vote, 133 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: and not just what the vote was. But Charlie was 134 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: speaking to young people in a way that the Republican 135 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: Party has not been effective at doing in my lifetime. 136 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: Trump was the first person who had any number, any 137 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: sizeable support from young people, and he nurtured that it 138 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: was important to him. He also understood it was important 139 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: to winning. You go back before him, Mitt Romney, John McCain, 140 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:34,719 Speaker 1: George W. Bush, Bob Dole, George H. W. Bush, these 141 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: were not attracting young voters, but Trump does. And Trump 142 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: understood That's why he developed a relationship with Charlie Kirk. 143 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: He understood that Charlie Kirk could go into places in 144 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 1: this country and evangelize and campaign in the process for 145 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: an America that Trump imagines in a way that no 146 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: one else could. There's a politician they can do that. 147 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: So what we saw last night, let's take New York. 148 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: A lot of people pay attention to that race, it's important, 149 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 1: But what we really saw there is the continuation on 150 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: the lifeline, on the timeline of New York devolving into 151 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 1: where Mamdani clearly will take them, and that is a 152 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: city once known for a thriving Wall Street, incredible wealth, 153 00:12:54,760 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: paper wealth, digital wealth, wealth on paper, private equity, a 154 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of the stock market and this 155 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: sort of thing, but also corporate headquarters, Broadway, the theater, 156 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 1: the nightlife, a certain culture, alternative music, comedy. But you know, 157 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: I've spent a lot of time since last night thinking 158 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: this through. Mumdani is not a change in direction for 159 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: the city of New York. If we're honest, the city 160 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: of New York has been sliding into an abyss. 161 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 3: For some time. 162 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,719 Speaker 1: Do you even remember who the mayor is today? It's 163 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: Eric Adams. I and a number of other people had 164 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: high hopes for New York because you had a former 165 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: police officer who rose through the ranks. He had a 166 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: guy talking about law and order who happened to be Black. 167 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: Only Nixon could go to China. Eric Adams could talk 168 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: about restoring order in a way that Rudy Giuliani did 169 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: in the early nineties, but it didn't turn out to 170 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: be Once he got elected, Eric Adams showed that he 171 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: didn't have a real conviction, any real principles. Think about 172 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: Trump is even when his own core constituency is uncomfortable 173 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: with something he's doing, he believes in what he's doing. 174 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: He doesn't just do what was told to him by 175 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: the last person he talked to. A lot of people 176 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: in politics do that. George W. Bush did that. That's 177 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: why Cheney had to be there, because Cheney would do 178 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: what the establishment wanted. George W. Bush might get you 179 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: pulled over were here. He didn't really know what his 180 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: core principles were. New York is just continuing down a 181 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: road they've been on for some time. The fact is 182 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: one of the reasons Kami Mamdani could win was so 183 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: many people who wouldn't have voted for him and would 184 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: have seen him for the red scare he is have 185 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: moved to Florida. That's been going on for a while. Man, 186 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: You'll just go ahead and say it. I'm sorry that 187 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: Michael Arry Show. When Ludi Giuliani was elected to the 188 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: Premier of New York, he followed Dinkins, and Dinkins had 189 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: been a disaster. Every major city in America has felt 190 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: the need to have a black mayor. The problem is 191 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: it's never the best and brightest. It's never the sharp 192 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: guy focus with leadership skills, understanding of what ebadi is, 193 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: understanding of the challenges of business, the role proper role 194 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: of government, limitations of it, and the consequences of over governing, 195 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: over taxing, over regulating. No, we end up with Brandon 196 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: Johnson and before that Beetlejuice. We end up with Mark 197 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: Moriol in the once great New Orleans. And then to 198 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: outdo ourselves, we get Ray Nagan, We got David Dinkins 199 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: in New York, we get Muriel Bowser, we get Clowns, 200 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: we get Kwame Kirkpatrick Zora and Mumdani is now talking 201 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: about the fact that, Hey, look, I'm not the first 202 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: socialist mayor. David Dinkins was a member of the Socialist Party. 203 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: I don't think that's quite the flex you think it is. 204 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: David Dinkins was a disaster, So where does it go wrong? 205 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: Simple you have to control immigration. While we were singing 206 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 1: songs about the melting pot and how diversity was our strength, 207 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 1: you had large groups of people coming into your urban areas. 208 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: Wasn't even hardly noticed out in the country. The city 209 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: of Houston versus Fredericksburg or Lanta or Round Rock or 210 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: Round Top or Britam it's a world apart, but not 211 00:17:53,840 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: very many miles. The life is so different in those places. 212 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: Church is a big part of life. The local school 213 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 1: replaces professional sports. People root for the kids. Everything shuts 214 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 1: down on Friday nights. That's a nice thing. That's community support. 215 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: Everybody goes to the graduation even if they don't have 216 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: anybody there because they know somebody that teaches at the school, 217 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: or coaches at the school, or drives buses or is 218 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: a maintenance man. That's not what life in big cities 219 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: is like. Into these big cities, you've seen flocks of immigrants. 220 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: And so this is where this gets complicated. People don't 221 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: like to discuss this because they're scared of being called 222 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: a racist. Well, I've been called a racist so long. 223 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: I'm good, So I'd rather we have serious conversations because 224 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 1: we're not talking about Uganda here. We're not talking about Mauritania. 225 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: We're talking about the greatest nation in the history of 226 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: the earth. It's worth arguing over our future when you 227 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: start bringing in too many people, yes I said it, 228 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: from countries outside the United States that do not share 229 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: our values, have not been taught our values. You change 230 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: the values of a community. And when the pockets of 231 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: people come into Minneapolis from Somalia or New York, the 232 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: two areas that I think have been hit the hardest 233 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: by this San Francisco, La. When do you change the 234 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: population to where people can recreate the world they came 235 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 1: from here without being there. They will speak that language, 236 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: they will do busines is only with people like that. 237 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: They will marry only people like that, they will worship 238 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: only with people that way. So they're strangers in a 239 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: strange land. They're not part of America in any sense 240 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: of community that we think of. There is no tie 241 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: that binds. There's no common bond. Of course, there's no patriotism. 242 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: What would there be patriotism toward They love the concept 243 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 1: of the country they came from. You've got Somalis in Minneapolis, 244 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: making Mogadishues sound like paradise. Well, it wasn't, and they 245 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: know it wasn't. It's about their tribe, it's about their people. 246 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: It's about people who look like them and speak the 247 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: same language, and eat the same foods, and worship the 248 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: same and are married to the same people and have 249 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 1: the same shared national history. You can't separate those people 250 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 1: from that land. And that's true almost everywhere in the world, 251 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 1: the Chinese, the Japanese. So when those people leave, it's 252 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: very easy, very comfortable, very convenient to locate in an 253 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: area where you have a built in network. But when 254 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: that network becomes all consuming, you create communities within a 255 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: city that never leave that community. In fact, to that sense, 256 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: that's why they don't go to the police, because the 257 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: police are outsiders. That's why they don't associate. That's why 258 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: the largest welfare fraud in Minneapolis was carried out by 259 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: some allies. There's no regard for any sense of doing wrong, 260 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 1: harming our country, because there's no shared sense of sacrifice, 261 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: suffering legacy history. There are people who've just gone to 262 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 1: some place. New York is a place people have just 263 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: come to. You start looking down the down the cross 264 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: tabs of the polls, and you notice that the people 265 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: most likely to vote for Mamdani were people who came 266 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 1: to New York most recently, the people who have stayed 267 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: in New York, which is shocking after the COVID Lockdown's 268 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: just brutal. It's shocking that people stayed, but some did. 269 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 1: Those people are more likely to vote for Cuomo. Sliwa 270 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: didn't do enough, didn't attract enough votes to have made 271 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: a difference. It still would have been fifty one to 272 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: forty nine. So you can't blame him for his chaotic 273 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: He had it run. It was a Democrat primary. And 274 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: what you saw here which is exactly what you saw 275 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight, and I want to talk 276 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: about this in the next segment. You saw a young, 277 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: well spoken, well funded communist who's not white, uniting non 278 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 1: white people against the old white liberal guard and look 279 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: who wins. The Michael shows the Democrat Party made it 280 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: started making moves in the sixties and Lyndon Johnson was 281 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: really what accelerated that. The Democrat Party prior to that 282 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: was very much the working Man's Party, and it was 283 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: largely the working white man's party. It skewed more southern. 284 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: The Republican Party skewed more Northeastern and the Democrat Party 285 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: preached the value of the working man. That was a 286 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: pro labor but socially conservative ideology. And that's why there 287 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: was discomfort with John F. Kennedy. He was from his 288 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: Boston Braman So that's why he had to have LBJ 289 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: on the ticket. He needed a Southerner. It's the same 290 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: reason in nineteen eighty eight, still true, same reason. In 291 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight you had the Boston Austin connection of 292 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: Michael Ducaucus bringing in Lloyd Benson. Duke Caucus was this 293 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 1: Northeastern pointy head, short, swarthy, hairy, sweaty, dorky computer type, 294 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: and he needed a Southerner, and that was Lloyd Benson, 295 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: who carried himself with a patrician gait and style and 296 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 1: manner of speaking. It was an affectation, but it seemed 297 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: to work for him, and Lloyd Benson brought a lot 298 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: to the to the ticket. I don't know of a 299 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 1: vice president who brought more to their ticket even though 300 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 1: they lost, than Benson did for du Caucus. But the 301 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: Democrat Party began to change. Lyndon Johnson famously said of 302 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: black people, referring to them as the in word that 303 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: the civil Rights actor sixty five would have them voting 304 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: Democrat for two hundred years. It was a very cynical ploy. 305 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: He believed that he could basically buy these votes. If 306 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: you read Robert Carrow's Path to Power, you will you will, 307 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 1: you will read of LBJ in the early days talking 308 00:25:55,960 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 1: about when they would go down South Texas in areas 309 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 1: that were at that time basically Mexico, but in Texas, 310 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: and they would bring the ranch hands in, the farm 311 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: hands in. They'd come in and they'd put up a 312 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: one saying I'll pay you one dollar for your vote, 313 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: and the guy would say, no, three, because he didn't 314 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: speak English. He'd put a three, and you'd go, all right, two, 315 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: you pay him two. He said, that's how you paid 316 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 1: him too, instead of three, as you started at one, 317 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: and that meant you bought his vote, and he'd get 318 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: his two dollars and he'd go on out. This was 319 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: the thirties. That was lbj's view of winning the hearts 320 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: and minds of the electorate, whatever it takes, buy their vote. Stuff. 321 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: The ballot box lord knows he did that. In nineteen 322 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: forty eight, the Duke of Duval County look it up 323 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: it's a great story. George Parr was his name. That 324 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 1: was the cynical view of LBJ. This was a man 325 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: who used private money, dirty money, government money, whatever it 326 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:11,360 Speaker 1: took to buy whoever he needed to buy to get 327 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 1: himself in power. So the sixty five Civil Rights Acts, 328 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: that's exactly what that was, the war on poverty. That 329 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: was buying the votes of anyone who considered themselves poor, 330 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: most of whom, frankly, were lazy and didn't want to work. 331 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: So yes, a free meal from the government. Problem is, 332 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: once you start that, you ain't getting them off of it. 333 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: But that wasn't his concern. How did the War on poverty? 334 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 3: Do? 335 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 1: Did we ever win it? Ramon? 336 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 3: How did it? That? 337 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: Was there a truce? Did we ever end the War 338 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: on poverty? That's a law that's a forever war, isn't it? 339 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: Because it's so darn convenient, isn't it? The War on poverty? Uh? Yes, 340 00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: so LBJ in sixty five. Then by nineteen sixty eight, 341 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: the Democrat Party, after JFK's assassination and the Johnson administration. 342 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: Johnson decides he's going to remake the country overnight, and 343 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 1: that he's going to have buildings named for him. He's 344 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: going to be Abraham Lincoln with the stroke of his pen. 345 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: So we start these big social programs, in welfare programs 346 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 1: that would make FDR blush, and then we're moving into 347 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: sixty eight. But there was one problem. Otherwise he would 348 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: have run and been reelected. I believe Vietnam. Vietnam was 349 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: the albatross around his neck, and he was so afraid 350 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: of being thought weak. Otherwise they would have ended the affair. 351 00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: McNamara was giving him bad advice, but that's okay. He 352 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: should have known better. He couldn't handle. He was getting old, 353 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: his heart was starting to bother him. He's feeling weak. 354 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: The nation was divided. He wasn't being given the love 355 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: he thought he deserved, so he decides not to run. 356 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: Rfk's out there. RFK gets assassinated. Martin Luther King Junior 357 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: gets assassinated. The Democrat Party at this point chooses an 358 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: extremely liberal nominee, not as liberal as Eugene McCarthy, who 359 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: was really far left, but in Hubert Humphrey, the mayor 360 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: of Minneapolis, a liberal white Democrat. He loses. In seventy two. 361 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: They try to come back to the middle because Nixon 362 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: has the Trump coalition. That is a lot of former 363 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: Democrats who don't identify as Republicans. And see, this was 364 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: the problem last night. Lot of former Democrats, a lot 365 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: of working class folks, socially conservative, who don't trust government. 366 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: These are people who want law and order, they want 367 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: lower taxes, they want stability, and Nixon knew how to 368 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: talk to them, the silent majority. And this is why 369 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: Trump went to some of Nixon's people, like Roger Stone, 370 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: like what was his name, Pat Buchanan, who created the 371 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: Reform Party. All of this was brewing. There are elements 372 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: of Ross Perot in the Trump strategy, in the Trump 373 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: message today, there's a lot of Pat Buchanan, there's plenty 374 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: of Richard Nixon. Well at this part. At this point, 375 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: working class, especially white working class voters were moving Republican 376 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: and the Democrat Party was making a decision to go 377 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: very hard black, and so the things they were doing 378 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: there was a wedge driving white working class voters away. 379 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: Then you get Carter. After the Nixon debacle set the 380 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: party back, it was devastating. Then you get Carter who 381 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: comes in with this sort of common sense, southern message. 382 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: Southern white voters went with him. And then Reagan brings 383 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: them back, and then we lost those people. We really 384 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: lost them, even though we won an eighty eight. We 385 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: lost those people until Trump. And that's really what happened, 386 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: and what we're witnessing now is that when Trump's not 387 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: on the ballot, when Trump's out negotiating deals around the world, 388 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: we don't have we don't have working class whisperers in 389 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: the Republican Party.