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Speaker 3: Welcome home, y'all, this is your favorite podcast, Native Lamb Pod,
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Speaker 3: with my co host Tiffany Crost and Andrew Gilliam and
Speaker 3: today we are going to start with a listener question
Speaker 3: and jump right into something that's probably got a lot
Speaker 3: of our minds.
Speaker 4: Greetings, Angela, Andrew and Tiffany, the trifecta of the Native
Speaker 4: Land Podcast. And my name is Keith Singleton, coming from Atlanta, Georgia.
Speaker 4: We found out the President of Joe Biden has dropped
Speaker 4: out of the twenty twenty four presidential election. I was
Speaker 4: saddened by that, however, I was elated with his endorsement
Speaker 4: of Kamala Harris for president, the top of the ticket
Speaker 4: for the Democratic presidency. For me, it's the only choice,
Speaker 4: any other choice. I am not staying with the Democratic Party.
Speaker 4: I'm going somewhere else and it's not going to be
Speaker 4: the Republican Party or that grand old Party. Again, thank
Speaker 4: you for taking the time to look at my video.
Speaker 4: Hope this helps out again. You're listening to the Native
Speaker 4: Land podcast The Innovators of US Politics.
Speaker 5: Keith.
Speaker 3: We're so grateful for your comments, y'all. Make sure you
Speaker 3: keep them coming. I thought that we could use this,
Speaker 3: y'all as a jumping off point for what should Joe
Speaker 3: Biden do with the rest of his term? Well, we
Speaker 3: know that he just recently did not only dropping out
Speaker 3: of the presidential race was just historic in and of itself,
Speaker 3: but endorsing Kamala Harris on that same day, saying that
Speaker 3: she was the person that could take the party in
Speaker 3: this country to the next level. It is so important
Speaker 3: that he continues to solidify his legacy with the rest
Speaker 3: of his term. So since on this podcast, we like
Speaker 3: to keep our managination as Tiffany always challenges us, and
Speaker 3: our good brother Andrew challenges us.
Speaker 6: Y'all when you dream big, What does.
Speaker 3: Joe Biden accomplish for the rest of his term.
Speaker 1: I don't know if legally he can do some of
Speaker 1: these things, but definitely federal pardons, which we know he
Speaker 1: can legally do through the DJ Parton office. Obviously for
Speaker 1: Marilyn Moseby, Angela works so hard on that, but multiple
Speaker 1: other people I would like to see more non violent
Speaker 1: offenders pardon, and not in a way that's safe, you know, like, oh,
Speaker 1: but what will the Republicans say, Like if you want
Speaker 1: to pardon the fifty thousand people, like do it? There
Speaker 1: are people sitting. I mean, what happens in our prisons
Speaker 1: is inhumane. I used to focus on that a lot.
Speaker 1: And when you take away somebody's liberty, like it needs
Speaker 1: to be like no other choice. And we've just been
Speaker 1: adversely impacted by a very punishing criminal justice system. So
Speaker 1: pardons is probably at the top of my list. Legally,
Speaker 1: I don't know if he can do this, but a
Speaker 1: federal protection for bodily autonomy for women, I think if
Speaker 1: he can pull that off, i'd like to see that.
Speaker 1: And if we're really letting our imaginations just like run free,
Speaker 1: imagine in America that is fair and you know, for
Speaker 1: the people, by the people. Other people include us reparations.
Speaker 1: I think reparations is something in a form. It may
Speaker 1: not be cash payments, maybe as land, maybe it's home ownership.
Speaker 1: Maybe we don't pay taxes for the rest of our lives.
Speaker 1: Whatever that looks like. See, I would like them to
Speaker 1: be bold enough to do that. So off the top
Speaker 1: of my head, those are the three things I'd say.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the courts, the courts, the courts, the courts, the courts,
Speaker 5: the courts, the courts. I just think now he is
Speaker 5: trying to do that. No, no, no, but that's I mean,
Speaker 5: for it to be done, there's a lot that is intended,
Speaker 5: which means that they are going to have to be
Speaker 5: likely some maneuvers that Center Democrats are going to have
Speaker 5: to make within their rule making process, within the accommodations
Speaker 5: that they have been willing to make to Republicans up
Speaker 5: to this point. I mean, we've even seen under Mitchell
Speaker 5: mcconnoll's leadership where they had basically temporary suspensions of the
Speaker 5: sixty sixty vote rule, and they brought that they've used
Speaker 5: that process instead of preventively like they have used it
Speaker 5: toward the Democrats to prevent Democrats from moving along nominations
Speaker 5: and slowing down the process. I'd like to see us
Speaker 5: use it the other way. I'd like Schumer, hopefully with
Speaker 5: the support of all forty nine other fifty other Democrats,
Speaker 5: be willing to make some rule changes in order to
Speaker 5: get the president's agenda around the courts through the process.
Speaker 5: I think they're going to be Republicans who are critical
Speaker 5: enough of the Supreme Court that they may be willing
Speaker 5: to come with us in the House to get a
Speaker 5: bill through. And I think obviously we'll have to do
Speaker 5: what we can in the Senate. And then lastly on
Speaker 5: the courts is the appointments of of judges. Uh, this
Speaker 5: process has been slowan by Republicans to to screeching Holpe,
Speaker 5: You've got Senate Republicans who are from states where vacancies occur,
Speaker 5: who have literally stood, you know, figuratively stood in the
Speaker 5: doorway from letting any nominations get through. They will not
Speaker 5: provide slips, I forget what they call them, maybe blue
Speaker 5: slips or or angela you may know, the terminology which
Speaker 5: basically green lights the name of the person coming from
Speaker 5: their state to move forward in that committee process. I mean,
Speaker 5: the only that was just on the course. And then
Speaker 5: the last thing I'll throw in there is just we've
Speaker 5: got a letter already out there on the on the
Speaker 5: Fearless Fund. I'd love to see the President take very
Speaker 5: simple action as it relates to what is being requested
Speaker 5: by the Fearless Fund, which is additional protection in an
Speaker 5: executive order to expand on that protection.
Speaker 3: The Fearless Fund is actually where I was going to
Speaker 3: go to if you know, it's so important for us
Speaker 3: to understand. Fearless Fund is one of many victims of
Speaker 3: you know, a people and an infrastructure that is trying
Speaker 3: so diligently to keep us back from and keeping us
Speaker 3: out of equitable outcomes they you know, and one hand,
Speaker 3: it's like you didn't earn it. You there's affirmative action
Speaker 3: policy that you shouldn't be able to be a part of.
Speaker 3: You didn't earn it. You shouldn't be able to to
Speaker 3: to go to schools to get funding with us, to
Speaker 3: get access to capital, so you start your own thing,
Speaker 3: and then they target you for that. So I absolutely
Speaker 3: think there should be an executive order not only protecting
Speaker 3: entities like the Fearless Fund, but really doing the disparity
Speaker 3: studies necessary across the board, in every industry, in every organization,
Speaker 3: and all of all systems of education to demonstrate why
Speaker 3: discriminatory impact is still just as significant as discriminatory intent.
Speaker 3: You cannot prove intent without the data. The data is there.
Speaker 3: We all know it, we've seen it, we've witnessed it,
Speaker 3: so we need something some federal protection visavie executive order
Speaker 3: to help us get across.
Speaker 6: That finish line. I think the other thing that I want.
Speaker 3: To see him do is an executive order on voting rights.
Speaker 3: Everything that they've said in the past, the Supreme Court
Speaker 3: is said has not been the makeup of this court.
Speaker 3: So I believe if Donald Trump was were in office,
Speaker 3: they would give him broad sweeping authority on executive orders.
Speaker 3: I think Joe Biden should test that leading up to
Speaker 3: the fall.
Speaker 6: I really do. I think that he should go hard
Speaker 6: on executive orders.
Speaker 3: Like he's If you can legislate from the bench, certainly
Speaker 3: you can do it from the oval and prove them wrong.
Speaker 6: So yes on abortion or reproductive justice.
Speaker 3: Yes on affirmative action and equitable outcomes and opportunities. Yes
Speaker 3: on everything else and voting rights, all the things that
Speaker 3: we know that we need, and reparations. Absolutely So I
Speaker 3: like all those answers.
Speaker 1: Well, I know we were just focused on domestic policy,
Speaker 1: but I would add to that, I would revisit some
Speaker 1: of our foreign policy as well. This is in the
Speaker 1: world of you know, a blank wall that we can
Speaker 1: create democracy ourselves on what it looks like, because you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know how realistic this is, but I would
Speaker 1: certainly rethink our allyship with the State of Israel. You know,
Speaker 1: Israel is a nuclear power and a powerful entity, largely
Speaker 1: because of the United States funds. What we've seen in just
Speaker 1: the abhorrent things that we've seen happen in Gaza, and
Speaker 1: now it used to be an unsafe thing to even
Speaker 1: say this. And I think we can stand an allyship
Speaker 1: with our Jewish brothers and sisters, but we mainly stand
Speaker 1: on the right side of what is good and righteous,
Speaker 1: and what we're seeing happening there is not that, and
Speaker 1: the money being used to fund the inhumane treatment there.
Speaker 1: I would hope that President Biden could reconsider. I would
Speaker 1: also realign our foreign policy to some of the shifting
Speaker 1: foreign powers that we actually see. It kind of feels
Speaker 1: like the United States is like, you know, few decades
Speaker 1: behind the rest of the world on when it comes
Speaker 1: to global powers. So that's from a foreign policy expert,
Speaker 1: but also a few decades behind even when it comes
Speaker 1: to infrastructure. When you look at public transit in other
Speaker 1: countries and they're bullet trains and you know their streets
Speaker 1: and you know just how different countries look. So I
Speaker 1: would love to see some some change.
Speaker 2: On that side as well.
Speaker 1: And you know, I have to say watching when I
Speaker 1: do watch news and it is not domestic news, you
Speaker 1: really would be, you know, just terrified when you look
Speaker 1: at what's happening in the country. And I'm as I
Speaker 1: said on our main podcast, I hope you guys tune
Speaker 1: in if you haven't already.
Speaker 2: I could see an all out.
Speaker 1: War happening in the Middle East, and that would not
Speaker 1: benefit Vice President Harris. I do think, unfortunately, that would
Speaker 1: likely benefit Donald Trump for this country to see its
Speaker 1: first female commander in chief, and so that definitely has
Speaker 1: my attention as well as if there's something that Joe
Speaker 1: Biden could do before he left office to stay that
Speaker 1: state of unrest, that would also be helpful.
Speaker 3: All right, y'all, well, we are going to take a
Speaker 3: quick break and we'll be right back.
Speaker 2: I think our brother Andrew is gone.
Speaker 6: I was just about to say, Andrew Andrew dropped.
Speaker 2: Andrew got dial up, like y'all said about me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, we all do today. Mine is even
Speaker 3: recording on here. They got local audio recording. But Andrew
Speaker 3: I wanted to come back to him because he it
Speaker 3: looked like the cameras feed was picking up and then
Speaker 3: it dropped. But I was also gonna say, I have
Speaker 3: one that is kind of petty, but I think some
Speaker 3: of the things should be done like right away.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: I for a long time on this podcast have been
Speaker 3: calling for Mary Garland's resignation. I think he should just
Speaker 3: appoint another head of the Department of Justice. I don't
Speaker 3: think that this Department of Justice there air failures around Tulsa.
Speaker 3: You know, the shortcomings around some of the police killings
Speaker 3: that we've seen and their inability to reach a conclusion
Speaker 3: on investigations. The targeting of black prosecutors, black elected officials,
Speaker 3: including our own brother Andrew, under this Department of Justice.
Speaker 3: For failure to revisit any of Trump's targeted prosecutions is
Speaker 3: highly problematic. They have been non responsive to what we
Speaker 3: know is a necessary justice for the Tulsa Race massacre survivors.
Speaker 3: We have lost one since this administration has been in
Speaker 3: with Uncle Red's passing. So it's time for these folks
Speaker 3: to get and receive the justice they deserve, and their
Speaker 3: descendants to get and receive the justice they deserve. If
Speaker 3: that can happen under Merit Garland's watch, then we should
Speaker 3: get a new attorney general. So that's another thing that
Speaker 3: I think he should do before he leaves, appoint someone
Speaker 3: else at DOJ.
Speaker 1: Well, since we're imagining things, is there, do you have
Speaker 1: someone in mind for attorney general under know.
Speaker 3: Who would be so good? I would be so excited
Speaker 3: about it. I don't know if she's gonna come back
Speaker 3: to the administration.
Speaker 2: Marcia Fudge really as Attorney general.
Speaker 3: Yes, I think that Marcia Fudge does not play. She
Speaker 3: is so serious about voting right. She was great on
Speaker 3: that issue as chair. She cares deeply about children and
Speaker 3: snap benefits and equal education opportunities. She has an organizing
Speaker 3: arm behind her as a former president of a Delta
Speaker 3: Sigma Theta. Like I think that, and she does not
Speaker 3: let me tell you about October babies.
Speaker 6: She's gonna go hard in the paint. She get right
Speaker 6: up there and be like, let me tell you what
Speaker 6: you're not gonna do. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: So Marcia Fudge is a former congresswoman of Ohio. She
Speaker 1: left Congress to lead HUD under the Biden administration. She
Speaker 1: since I left, and as Angela said, former president ADULTA
Speaker 1: Sigma Theta.
Speaker 6: She would be a gangster. Yeah, the other person who
Speaker 6: would be really good is a girl can dream. I
Speaker 6: would like Ben Crump.
Speaker 2: Oh, I like that.
Speaker 5: I like it.
Speaker 6: I think that it's time that.
Speaker 3: The the department that sits in the j Edgar Hoover Building,
Speaker 3: can you.
Speaker 6: Also rename that with an executive order? By the way, but.
Speaker 3: If he's not going to rename that, I would like
Speaker 3: to see somebody who fights for the civil rights of
Speaker 3: all people running it, like just as an a front
Speaker 3: end to j Edgar Hoover.
Speaker 6: Just like this on the building.
Speaker 1: So I have to be I hate to be a
Speaker 1: dream damper, but I do wonder with all the things
Speaker 1: that the DLJ is responsible for, would Ben Krunk be ideal.
Speaker 2: In that space? I don't know.
Speaker 1: And I know we all know Ben and love Ben,
Speaker 1: but like when it comes to foreign policies and.
Speaker 3: And just read this that Benkrupt should be the Attorney General.
Speaker 3: And I would just remind Tiff that you know, everybody,
Speaker 3: I mean, there are divisions, and just to get the back.
Speaker 5: As well, I would just say Justice Katanji Brown Jackson
Speaker 5: comes from the tradition of being a public defender in
Speaker 5: the federal court system, which is unprecedented, unheard of to
Speaker 5: be appointed to the Supreme Court. We have to do
Speaker 5: the same thing with the U. S. Attorney attorneys general
Speaker 5: because we've we've looked almost exclusively at prosecutors as a
Speaker 5: you know, tried and true guaranteed must have in order
Speaker 5: to be a US attorney or the Attorney General. And
Speaker 5: the truth is the legal system is much more complex
Speaker 5: than that. There are many way matters of accountability with injustice,
Speaker 5: and I'd love to see someone who comes from a
Speaker 5: different seated background with a respect for the law to
Speaker 5: come in there and shake it up.
Speaker 6: Public defend Okay, I have one more idea, James.
Speaker 1: I could get with his James, Sure, James, But now
Speaker 1: y'all got just kind of sold on the Ben Crump thing,
Speaker 1: Like I like the idea of a public defender.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, he's a public as a public.
Speaker 1: I know he's not now, but he never worked as
Speaker 1: a public defend Okay.
Speaker 7: No, but his his his alignment with the the intersections
Speaker 7: of law and justice, both through the civil as well
Speaker 7: as the criminal uh elements that he's represented that he's
Speaker 7: worked at.
Speaker 5: Because of the nature of his work, he's gotten to
Speaker 5: get involved with these families who sit at the intersection
Speaker 5: of prosecutions as well as victimhood within the criminal justice system,
Speaker 5: long before you ever typically see civil attorneys getting engaged
Speaker 5: and involved. He's there from day zero, oftentimes ushering these
Speaker 5: families through the criminal justice process and then being there
Speaker 5: as a backstop when the civil side kicks up and
Speaker 5: kick in. I just think his nuanced understanding is different
Speaker 5: than really much of what we can find anywhere wholesale endorser.
Speaker 2: I like that idea.
Speaker 6: Guess what. I love you guys.
Speaker 5: Sorry I missed half of it.
Speaker 6: We gotta keep dreaming. No, no, Andrew, you did good.
Speaker 3: And the sad part was as soon as your camera
Speaker 3: went on then it went right out. So we're gonna
Speaker 3: make sure that we have a part two on that
Speaker 3: so we can keep dreaming big and for everybody else,
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