WEBVTT - What Should Biden Do Before He Leaves?

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome home, y'all, this is your favorite podcast, Native Lamb Pod,

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<v Speaker 3>and this is our weekly mini pod. I'm Angela Rie

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<v Speaker 3>with my co host Tiffany Crost and Andrew Gilliam and

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<v Speaker 3>today we are going to start with a listener question

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<v Speaker 3>and jump right into something that's probably got a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of our minds.

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<v Speaker 4>Greetings, Angela, Andrew and Tiffany, the trifecta of the Native

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<v Speaker 4>Land Podcast. And my name is Keith Singleton, coming from Atlanta, Georgia.

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<v Speaker 4>We found out the President of Joe Biden has dropped

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<v Speaker 4>out of the twenty twenty four presidential election. I was

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<v Speaker 4>saddened by that, however, I was elated with his endorsement

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<v Speaker 4>of Kamala Harris for president, the top of the ticket

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<v Speaker 4>for the Democratic presidency. For me, it's the only choice,

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<v Speaker 4>any other choice. I am not staying with the Democratic Party.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going somewhere else and it's not going to be

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<v Speaker 4>the Republican Party or that grand old Party. Again, thank

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<v Speaker 4>you for taking the time to look at my video.

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<v Speaker 4>Hope this helps out again. You're listening to the Native

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<v Speaker 4>Land podcast The Innovators of US Politics.

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<v Speaker 5>Keith.

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<v Speaker 3>We're so grateful for your comments, y'all. Make sure you

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<v Speaker 3>keep them coming. I thought that we could use this,

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<v Speaker 3>y'all as a jumping off point for what should Joe

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<v Speaker 3>Biden do with the rest of his term? Well, we

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<v Speaker 3>know that he just recently did not only dropping out

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<v Speaker 3>of the presidential race was just historic in and of itself,

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<v Speaker 3>but endorsing Kamala Harris on that same day, saying that

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<v Speaker 3>she was the person that could take the party in

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<v Speaker 3>this country to the next level. It is so important

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<v Speaker 3>that he continues to solidify his legacy with the rest

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<v Speaker 3>of his term. So since on this podcast, we like

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<v Speaker 3>to keep our managination as Tiffany always challenges us, and

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<v Speaker 3>our good brother Andrew challenges us.

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<v Speaker 6>Y'all when you dream big, What does.

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Biden accomplish for the rest of his term.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if legally he can do some of

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<v Speaker 1>these things, but definitely federal pardons, which we know he

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<v Speaker 1>can legally do through the DJ Parton office. Obviously for

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<v Speaker 1>Marilyn Moseby, Angela works so hard on that, but multiple

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<v Speaker 1>other people I would like to see more non violent

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<v Speaker 1>offenders pardon, and not in a way that's safe, you know, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>but what will the Republicans say, Like if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to pardon the fifty thousand people, like do it? There

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<v Speaker 1>are people sitting. I mean, what happens in our prisons

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<v Speaker 1>is inhumane. I used to focus on that a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you take away somebody's liberty, like it needs

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<v Speaker 1>to be like no other choice. And we've just been

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<v Speaker 1>adversely impacted by a very punishing criminal justice system. So

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<v Speaker 1>pardons is probably at the top of my list. Legally,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he can do this, but a

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<v Speaker 1>federal protection for bodily autonomy for women, I think if

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<v Speaker 1>he can pull that off, i'd like to see that.

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<v Speaker 1>And if we're really letting our imaginations just like run free,

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<v Speaker 1>imagine in America that is fair and you know, for

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<v Speaker 1>the people, by the people. Other people include us reparations.

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<v Speaker 1>I think reparations is something in a form. It may

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<v Speaker 1>not be cash payments, maybe as land, maybe it's home ownership.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we don't pay taxes for the rest of our lives.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever that looks like. See, I would like them to

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<v Speaker 1>be bold enough to do that. So off the top

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<v Speaker 1>of my head, those are the three things I'd say.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the courts, the courts, the courts, the courts, the courts,

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<v Speaker 5>the courts, the courts. I just think now he is

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<v Speaker 5>trying to do that. No, no, no, but that's I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>for it to be done, there's a lot that is intended,

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<v Speaker 5>which means that they are going to have to be

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<v Speaker 5>likely some maneuvers that Center Democrats are going to have

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<v Speaker 5>to make within their rule making process, within the accommodations

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<v Speaker 5>that they have been willing to make to Republicans up

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<v Speaker 5>to this point. I mean, we've even seen under Mitchell

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<v Speaker 5>mcconnoll's leadership where they had basically temporary suspensions of the

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<v Speaker 5>sixty sixty vote rule, and they brought that they've used

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<v Speaker 5>that process instead of preventively like they have used it

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<v Speaker 5>toward the Democrats to prevent Democrats from moving along nominations

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<v Speaker 5>and slowing down the process. I'd like to see us

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<v Speaker 5>use it the other way. I'd like Schumer, hopefully with

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<v Speaker 5>the support of all forty nine other fifty other Democrats,

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<v Speaker 5>be willing to make some rule changes in order to

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<v Speaker 5>get the president's agenda around the courts through the process.

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<v Speaker 5>I think they're going to be Republicans who are critical

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<v Speaker 5>enough of the Supreme Court that they may be willing

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<v Speaker 5>to come with us in the House to get a

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<v Speaker 5>bill through. And I think obviously we'll have to do

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<v Speaker 5>what we can in the Senate. And then lastly on

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<v Speaker 5>the courts is the appointments of of judges. Uh, this

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<v Speaker 5>process has been slowan by Republicans to to screeching Holpe,

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<v Speaker 5>You've got Senate Republicans who are from states where vacancies occur,

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<v Speaker 5>who have literally stood, you know, figuratively stood in the

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<v Speaker 5>doorway from letting any nominations get through. They will not

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<v Speaker 5>provide slips, I forget what they call them, maybe blue

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<v Speaker 5>slips or or angela you may know, the terminology which

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<v Speaker 5>basically green lights the name of the person coming from

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<v Speaker 5>their state to move forward in that committee process. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>the only that was just on the course. And then

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<v Speaker 5>the last thing I'll throw in there is just we've

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<v Speaker 5>got a letter already out there on the on the

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<v Speaker 5>Fearless Fund. I'd love to see the President take very

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<v Speaker 5>simple action as it relates to what is being requested

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<v Speaker 5>by the Fearless Fund, which is additional protection in an

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<v Speaker 5>executive order to expand on that protection.

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<v Speaker 3>The Fearless Fund is actually where I was going to

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<v Speaker 3>go to if you know, it's so important for us

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<v Speaker 3>to understand. Fearless Fund is one of many victims of

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<v Speaker 3>you know, a people and an infrastructure that is trying

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<v Speaker 3>so diligently to keep us back from and keeping us

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<v Speaker 3>out of equitable outcomes they you know, and one hand,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like you didn't earn it. You there's affirmative action

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<v Speaker 3>policy that you shouldn't be able to be a part of.

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<v Speaker 3>You didn't earn it. You shouldn't be able to to

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<v Speaker 3>to go to schools to get funding with us, to

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<v Speaker 3>get access to capital, so you start your own thing,

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<v Speaker 3>and then they target you for that. So I absolutely

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<v Speaker 3>think there should be an executive order not only protecting

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<v Speaker 3>entities like the Fearless Fund, but really doing the disparity

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<v Speaker 3>studies necessary across the board, in every industry, in every organization,

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<v Speaker 3>and all of all systems of education to demonstrate why

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<v Speaker 3>discriminatory impact is still just as significant as discriminatory intent.

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<v Speaker 3>You cannot prove intent without the data. The data is there.

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<v Speaker 3>We all know it, we've seen it, we've witnessed it,

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<v Speaker 3>so we need something some federal protection visavie executive order

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<v Speaker 3>to help us get across.

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<v Speaker 6>That finish line. I think the other thing that I want.

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<v Speaker 3>To see him do is an executive order on voting rights.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything that they've said in the past, the Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 3>is said has not been the makeup of this court.

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<v Speaker 3>So I believe if Donald Trump was were in office,

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<v Speaker 3>they would give him broad sweeping authority on executive orders.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Joe Biden should test that leading up to

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<v Speaker 3>the fall.

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<v Speaker 6>I really do. I think that he should go hard

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<v Speaker 6>on executive orders.

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<v Speaker 3>Like he's If you can legislate from the bench, certainly

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<v Speaker 3>you can do it from the oval and prove them wrong.

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<v Speaker 6>So yes on abortion or reproductive justice.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes on affirmative action and equitable outcomes and opportunities. Yes

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<v Speaker 3>on everything else and voting rights, all the things that

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<v Speaker 3>we know that we need, and reparations. Absolutely So I

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<v Speaker 3>like all those answers.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I know we were just focused on domestic policy,

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<v Speaker 1>but I would add to that, I would revisit some

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<v Speaker 1>of our foreign policy as well. This is in the

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<v Speaker 1>world of you know, a blank wall that we can

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<v Speaker 1>create democracy ourselves on what it looks like, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how realistic this is, but I would

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<v Speaker 1>certainly rethink our allyship with the State of Israel. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Israel is a nuclear power and a powerful entity, largely

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<v Speaker 1>because of the United States funds. What we've seen in just

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<v Speaker 1>the abhorrent things that we've seen happen in Gaza, and

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<v Speaker 1>now it used to be an unsafe thing to even

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<v Speaker 1>say this. And I think we can stand an allyship

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<v Speaker 1>with our Jewish brothers and sisters, but we mainly stand

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<v Speaker 1>on the right side of what is good and righteous,

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<v Speaker 1>and what we're seeing happening there is not that, and

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<v Speaker 1>the money being used to fund the inhumane treatment there.

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<v Speaker 1>I would hope that President Biden could reconsider. I would

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<v Speaker 1>also realign our foreign policy to some of the shifting

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<v Speaker 1>foreign powers that we actually see. It kind of feels

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<v Speaker 1>like the United States is like, you know, few decades

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<v Speaker 1>behind the rest of the world on when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to global powers. So that's from a foreign policy expert,

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<v Speaker 1>but also a few decades behind even when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to infrastructure. When you look at public transit in other

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<v Speaker 1>countries and they're bullet trains and you know their streets

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<v Speaker 1>and you know just how different countries look. So I

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<v Speaker 1>would love to see some some change.

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<v Speaker 2>On that side as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I have to say watching when I

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<v Speaker 1>do watch news and it is not domestic news, you

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<v Speaker 1>really would be, you know, just terrified when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at what's happening in the country. And I'm as I

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<v Speaker 1>said on our main podcast, I hope you guys tune

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<v Speaker 1>in if you haven't already.

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<v Speaker 2>I could see an all out.

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<v Speaker 1>War happening in the Middle East, and that would not

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<v Speaker 1>benefit Vice President Harris. I do think, unfortunately, that would

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<v Speaker 1>likely benefit Donald Trump for this country to see its

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<v Speaker 1>first female commander in chief, and so that definitely has

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<v Speaker 1>my attention as well as if there's something that Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Biden could do before he left office to stay that

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<v Speaker 1>state of unrest, that would also be helpful.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, y'all, well, we are going to take a

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<v Speaker 3>quick break and we'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 2>I think our brother Andrew is gone.

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<v Speaker 6>I was just about to say, Andrew Andrew dropped.

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew got dial up, like y'all said about me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, we all do today. Mine is even

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<v Speaker 3>recording on here. They got local audio recording. But Andrew

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to come back to him because he it

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<v Speaker 3>looked like the cameras feed was picking up and then

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<v Speaker 3>it dropped. But I was also gonna say, I have

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<v Speaker 3>one that is kind of petty, but I think some

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<v Speaker 3>of the things should be done like right away.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>I for a long time on this podcast have been

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<v Speaker 3>calling for Mary Garland's resignation. I think he should just

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<v Speaker 3>appoint another head of the Department of Justice. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think that this Department of Justice there air failures around Tulsa.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, the shortcomings around some of the police killings

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<v Speaker 3>that we've seen and their inability to reach a conclusion

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<v Speaker 3>on investigations. The targeting of black prosecutors, black elected officials,

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<v Speaker 3>including our own brother Andrew, under this Department of Justice.

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<v Speaker 3>For failure to revisit any of Trump's targeted prosecutions is

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<v Speaker 3>highly problematic. They have been non responsive to what we

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<v Speaker 3>know is a necessary justice for the Tulsa Race massacre survivors.

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<v Speaker 3>We have lost one since this administration has been in

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<v Speaker 3>with Uncle Red's passing. So it's time for these folks

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<v Speaker 3>to get and receive the justice they deserve, and their

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<v Speaker 3>descendants to get and receive the justice they deserve. If

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<v Speaker 3>that can happen under Merit Garland's watch, then we should

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<v Speaker 3>get a new attorney general. So that's another thing that

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<v Speaker 3>I think he should do before he leaves, appoint someone

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<v Speaker 3>else at DOJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, since we're imagining things, is there, do you have

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<v Speaker 1>someone in mind for attorney general under know.

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<v Speaker 3>Who would be so good? I would be so excited

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<v Speaker 3>about it. I don't know if she's gonna come back

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<v Speaker 3>to the administration.

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<v Speaker 2>Marcia Fudge really as Attorney general.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I think that Marcia Fudge does not play. She

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<v Speaker 3>is so serious about voting right. She was great on

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<v Speaker 3>that issue as chair. She cares deeply about children and

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<v Speaker 3>snap benefits and equal education opportunities. She has an organizing

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<v Speaker 3>arm behind her as a former president of a Delta

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<v Speaker 3>Sigma Theta. Like I think that, and she does not

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<v Speaker 3>let me tell you about October babies.

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<v Speaker 6>She's gonna go hard in the paint. She get right

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<v Speaker 6>up there and be like, let me tell you what

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<v Speaker 6>you're not gonna do. Yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So Marcia Fudge is a former congresswoman of Ohio. She

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<v Speaker 1>left Congress to lead HUD under the Biden administration. She

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<v Speaker 1>since I left, and as Angela said, former president ADULTA

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<v Speaker 1>Sigma Theta.

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<v Speaker 6>She would be a gangster. Yeah, the other person who

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<v Speaker 6>would be really good is a girl can dream. I

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<v Speaker 6>would like Ben Crump.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I like that.

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<v Speaker 5>I like it.

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<v Speaker 6>I think that it's time that.

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<v Speaker 3>The the department that sits in the j Edgar Hoover Building,

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<v Speaker 3>can you.

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<v Speaker 6>Also rename that with an executive order? By the way, but.

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<v Speaker 3>If he's not going to rename that, I would like

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<v Speaker 3>to see somebody who fights for the civil rights of

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<v Speaker 3>all people running it, like just as an a front

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<v Speaker 3>end to j Edgar Hoover.

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<v Speaker 6>Just like this on the building.

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<v Speaker 1>So I have to be I hate to be a

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<v Speaker 1>dream damper, but I do wonder with all the things

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<v Speaker 1>that the DLJ is responsible for, would Ben Krunk be ideal.

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<v Speaker 2>In that space? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know we all know Ben and love Ben,

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<v Speaker 1>but like when it comes to foreign policies and.

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<v Speaker 3>And just read this that Benkrupt should be the Attorney General.

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<v Speaker 3>And I would just remind Tiff that you know, everybody,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there are divisions, and just to get the back.

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<v Speaker 5>As well, I would just say Justice Katanji Brown Jackson

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<v Speaker 5>comes from the tradition of being a public defender in

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<v Speaker 5>the federal court system, which is unprecedented, unheard of to

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<v Speaker 5>be appointed to the Supreme Court. We have to do

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<v Speaker 5>the same thing with the U. S. Attorney attorneys general

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<v Speaker 5>because we've we've looked almost exclusively at prosecutors as a

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<v Speaker 5>you know, tried and true guaranteed must have in order

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<v Speaker 5>to be a US attorney or the Attorney General. And

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<v Speaker 5>the truth is the legal system is much more complex

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<v Speaker 5>than that. There are many way matters of accountability with injustice,

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<v Speaker 5>and I'd love to see someone who comes from a

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<v Speaker 5>different seated background with a respect for the law to

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<v Speaker 5>come in there and shake it up.

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<v Speaker 6>Public defend Okay, I have one more idea, James.

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<v Speaker 1>I could get with his James, Sure, James, But now

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<v Speaker 1>y'all got just kind of sold on the Ben Crump thing,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I like the idea of a public defender.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well, he's a public as a public.

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<v Speaker 1>I know he's not now, but he never worked as

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<v Speaker 1>a public defend Okay.

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<v Speaker 7>No, but his his his alignment with the the intersections

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<v Speaker 7>of law and justice, both through the civil as well

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<v Speaker 7>as the criminal uh elements that he's represented that he's

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<v Speaker 7>worked at.

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<v Speaker 5>Because of the nature of his work, he's gotten to

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<v Speaker 5>get involved with these families who sit at the intersection

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<v Speaker 5>of prosecutions as well as victimhood within the criminal justice system,

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<v Speaker 5>long before you ever typically see civil attorneys getting engaged

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<v Speaker 5>and involved. He's there from day zero, oftentimes ushering these

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<v Speaker 5>families through the criminal justice process and then being there

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<v Speaker 5>as a backstop when the civil side kicks up and

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<v Speaker 5>kick in. I just think his nuanced understanding is different

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<v Speaker 5>than really much of what we can find anywhere wholesale endorser.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that idea.

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<v Speaker 6>Guess what. I love you guys.

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<v Speaker 5>Sorry I missed half of it.

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<v Speaker 6>We gotta keep dreaming. No, no, Andrew, you did good.

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<v Speaker 3>And the sad part was as soon as your camera

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<v Speaker 3>went on then it went right out. So we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>make sure that we have a part two on that

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