1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Native Lamb Pod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: with Reisent Choice Media. 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. 4 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 3: Welcome home, y'all, this is your favorite podcast, Native Lamb Pod, 5 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 3: and this is our weekly mini pod. I'm Angela Rie 6 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 3: with my co host Tiffany Crost and Andrew Gilliam and 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 3: today we are going to start with a listener question 8 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 3: and jump right into something that's probably got a lot 9 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 3: of our minds. 10 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 4: Greetings, Angela, Andrew and Tiffany, the trifecta of the Native 11 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 4: Land Podcast. And my name is Keith Singleton, coming from Atlanta, Georgia. 12 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 4: We found out the President of Joe Biden has dropped 13 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 4: out of the twenty twenty four presidential election. I was 14 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 4: saddened by that, however, I was elated with his endorsement 15 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 4: of Kamala Harris for president, the top of the ticket 16 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 4: for the Democratic presidency. For me, it's the only choice, 17 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 4: any other choice. I am not staying with the Democratic Party. 18 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 4: I'm going somewhere else and it's not going to be 19 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 4: the Republican Party or that grand old Party. Again, thank 20 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 4: you for taking the time to look at my video. 21 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 4: Hope this helps out again. You're listening to the Native 22 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 4: Land podcast The Innovators of US Politics. 23 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 5: Keith. 24 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 3: We're so grateful for your comments, y'all. Make sure you 25 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 3: keep them coming. I thought that we could use this, 26 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 3: y'all as a jumping off point for what should Joe 27 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 3: Biden do with the rest of his term? Well, we 28 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 3: know that he just recently did not only dropping out 29 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 3: of the presidential race was just historic in and of itself, 30 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 3: but endorsing Kamala Harris on that same day, saying that 31 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 3: she was the person that could take the party in 32 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 3: this country to the next level. It is so important 33 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 3: that he continues to solidify his legacy with the rest 34 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 3: of his term. So since on this podcast, we like 35 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 3: to keep our managination as Tiffany always challenges us, and 36 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 3: our good brother Andrew challenges us. 37 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 6: Y'all when you dream big, What does. 38 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 3: Joe Biden accomplish for the rest of his term. 39 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if legally he can do some of 40 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: these things, but definitely federal pardons, which we know he 41 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: can legally do through the DJ Parton office. Obviously for 42 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: Marilyn Moseby, Angela works so hard on that, but multiple 43 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 1: other people I would like to see more non violent 44 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: offenders pardon, and not in a way that's safe, you know, like, oh, 45 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: but what will the Republicans say, Like if you want 46 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: to pardon the fifty thousand people, like do it? There 47 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: are people sitting. I mean, what happens in our prisons 48 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: is inhumane. I used to focus on that a lot. 49 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: And when you take away somebody's liberty, like it needs 50 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: to be like no other choice. And we've just been 51 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: adversely impacted by a very punishing criminal justice system. So 52 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: pardons is probably at the top of my list. Legally, 53 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if he can do this, but a 54 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: federal protection for bodily autonomy for women, I think if 55 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: he can pull that off, i'd like to see that. 56 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: And if we're really letting our imaginations just like run free, 57 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: imagine in America that is fair and you know, for 58 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: the people, by the people. Other people include us reparations. 59 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: I think reparations is something in a form. It may 60 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: not be cash payments, maybe as land, maybe it's home ownership. 61 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: Maybe we don't pay taxes for the rest of our lives. 62 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: Whatever that looks like. See, I would like them to 63 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: be bold enough to do that. So off the top 64 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: of my head, those are the three things I'd say. 65 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, the courts, the courts, the courts, the courts, the courts, 66 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 5: the courts, the courts. I just think now he is 67 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 5: trying to do that. No, no, no, but that's I mean, 68 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 5: for it to be done, there's a lot that is intended, 69 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 5: which means that they are going to have to be 70 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 5: likely some maneuvers that Center Democrats are going to have 71 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 5: to make within their rule making process, within the accommodations 72 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 5: that they have been willing to make to Republicans up 73 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 5: to this point. I mean, we've even seen under Mitchell 74 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 5: mcconnoll's leadership where they had basically temporary suspensions of the 75 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 5: sixty sixty vote rule, and they brought that they've used 76 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 5: that process instead of preventively like they have used it 77 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 5: toward the Democrats to prevent Democrats from moving along nominations 78 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 5: and slowing down the process. I'd like to see us 79 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 5: use it the other way. I'd like Schumer, hopefully with 80 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 5: the support of all forty nine other fifty other Democrats, 81 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 5: be willing to make some rule changes in order to 82 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 5: get the president's agenda around the courts through the process. 83 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 5: I think they're going to be Republicans who are critical 84 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 5: enough of the Supreme Court that they may be willing 85 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 5: to come with us in the House to get a 86 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 5: bill through. And I think obviously we'll have to do 87 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 5: what we can in the Senate. And then lastly on 88 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 5: the courts is the appointments of of judges. Uh, this 89 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 5: process has been slowan by Republicans to to screeching Holpe, 90 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 5: You've got Senate Republicans who are from states where vacancies occur, 91 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 5: who have literally stood, you know, figuratively stood in the 92 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 5: doorway from letting any nominations get through. They will not 93 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 5: provide slips, I forget what they call them, maybe blue 94 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 5: slips or or angela you may know, the terminology which 95 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 5: basically green lights the name of the person coming from 96 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 5: their state to move forward in that committee process. I mean, 97 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 5: the only that was just on the course. And then 98 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 5: the last thing I'll throw in there is just we've 99 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 5: got a letter already out there on the on the 100 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 5: Fearless Fund. I'd love to see the President take very 101 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 5: simple action as it relates to what is being requested 102 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 5: by the Fearless Fund, which is additional protection in an 103 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 5: executive order to expand on that protection. 104 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 3: The Fearless Fund is actually where I was going to 105 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 3: go to if you know, it's so important for us 106 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 3: to understand. Fearless Fund is one of many victims of 107 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 3: you know, a people and an infrastructure that is trying 108 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 3: so diligently to keep us back from and keeping us 109 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 3: out of equitable outcomes they you know, and one hand, 110 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 3: it's like you didn't earn it. You there's affirmative action 111 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 3: policy that you shouldn't be able to be a part of. 112 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 3: You didn't earn it. You shouldn't be able to to 113 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 3: to go to schools to get funding with us, to 114 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 3: get access to capital, so you start your own thing, 115 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,679 Speaker 3: and then they target you for that. So I absolutely 116 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 3: think there should be an executive order not only protecting 117 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 3: entities like the Fearless Fund, but really doing the disparity 118 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 3: studies necessary across the board, in every industry, in every organization, 119 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 3: and all of all systems of education to demonstrate why 120 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 3: discriminatory impact is still just as significant as discriminatory intent. 121 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 3: You cannot prove intent without the data. The data is there. 122 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 3: We all know it, we've seen it, we've witnessed it, 123 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 3: so we need something some federal protection visavie executive order 124 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 3: to help us get across. 125 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 6: That finish line. I think the other thing that I want. 126 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 3: To see him do is an executive order on voting rights. 127 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 3: Everything that they've said in the past, the Supreme Court 128 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 3: is said has not been the makeup of this court. 129 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 3: So I believe if Donald Trump was were in office, 130 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 3: they would give him broad sweeping authority on executive orders. 131 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 3: I think Joe Biden should test that leading up to 132 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 3: the fall. 133 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 6: I really do. I think that he should go hard 134 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 6: on executive orders. 135 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 3: Like he's If you can legislate from the bench, certainly 136 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 3: you can do it from the oval and prove them wrong. 137 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 6: So yes on abortion or reproductive justice. 138 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 3: Yes on affirmative action and equitable outcomes and opportunities. Yes 139 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 3: on everything else and voting rights, all the things that 140 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 3: we know that we need, and reparations. Absolutely So I 141 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 3: like all those answers. 142 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: Well, I know we were just focused on domestic policy, 143 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: but I would add to that, I would revisit some 144 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: of our foreign policy as well. This is in the 145 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: world of you know, a blank wall that we can 146 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: create democracy ourselves on what it looks like, because you know, 147 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: I don't know how realistic this is, but I would 148 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: certainly rethink our allyship with the State of Israel. You know, 149 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: Israel is a nuclear power and a powerful entity, largely 150 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: because of the United States funds. What we've seen in just 151 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: the abhorrent things that we've seen happen in Gaza, and 152 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: now it used to be an unsafe thing to even 153 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: say this. And I think we can stand an allyship 154 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: with our Jewish brothers and sisters, but we mainly stand 155 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: on the right side of what is good and righteous, 156 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: and what we're seeing happening there is not that, and 157 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: the money being used to fund the inhumane treatment there. 158 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: I would hope that President Biden could reconsider. I would 159 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: also realign our foreign policy to some of the shifting 160 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: foreign powers that we actually see. It kind of feels 161 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: like the United States is like, you know, few decades 162 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 1: behind the rest of the world on when it comes 163 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: to global powers. So that's from a foreign policy expert, 164 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: but also a few decades behind even when it comes 165 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: to infrastructure. When you look at public transit in other 166 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: countries and they're bullet trains and you know their streets 167 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 1: and you know just how different countries look. So I 168 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,239 Speaker 1: would love to see some some change. 169 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 2: On that side as well. 170 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: And you know, I have to say watching when I 171 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: do watch news and it is not domestic news, you 172 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: really would be, you know, just terrified when you look 173 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: at what's happening in the country. And I'm as I 174 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: said on our main podcast, I hope you guys tune 175 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: in if you haven't already. 176 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 2: I could see an all out. 177 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: War happening in the Middle East, and that would not 178 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: benefit Vice President Harris. I do think, unfortunately, that would 179 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: likely benefit Donald Trump for this country to see its 180 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: first female commander in chief, and so that definitely has 181 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: my attention as well as if there's something that Joe 182 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: Biden could do before he left office to stay that 183 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 1: state of unrest, that would also be helpful. 184 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 3: All right, y'all, well, we are going to take a 185 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 3: quick break and we'll be right back. 186 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 2: I think our brother Andrew is gone. 187 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 6: I was just about to say, Andrew Andrew dropped. 188 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 2: Andrew got dial up, like y'all said about me. 189 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, we all do today. Mine is even 190 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 3: recording on here. They got local audio recording. But Andrew 191 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 3: I wanted to come back to him because he it 192 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 3: looked like the cameras feed was picking up and then 193 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 3: it dropped. But I was also gonna say, I have 194 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 3: one that is kind of petty, but I think some 195 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 3: of the things should be done like right away. 196 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: Uh. 197 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 3: I for a long time on this podcast have been 198 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 3: calling for Mary Garland's resignation. I think he should just 199 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 3: appoint another head of the Department of Justice. I don't 200 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 3: think that this Department of Justice there air failures around Tulsa. 201 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 3: You know, the shortcomings around some of the police killings 202 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 3: that we've seen and their inability to reach a conclusion 203 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 3: on investigations. The targeting of black prosecutors, black elected officials, 204 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 3: including our own brother Andrew, under this Department of Justice. 205 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 3: For failure to revisit any of Trump's targeted prosecutions is 206 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 3: highly problematic. They have been non responsive to what we 207 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 3: know is a necessary justice for the Tulsa Race massacre survivors. 208 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 3: We have lost one since this administration has been in 209 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 3: with Uncle Red's passing. So it's time for these folks 210 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 3: to get and receive the justice they deserve, and their 211 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 3: descendants to get and receive the justice they deserve. If 212 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 3: that can happen under Merit Garland's watch, then we should 213 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 3: get a new attorney general. So that's another thing that 214 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 3: I think he should do before he leaves, appoint someone 215 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 3: else at DOJ. 216 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: Well, since we're imagining things, is there, do you have 217 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: someone in mind for attorney general under know. 218 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 3: Who would be so good? I would be so excited 219 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 3: about it. I don't know if she's gonna come back 220 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 3: to the administration. 221 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 2: Marcia Fudge really as Attorney general. 222 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 3: Yes, I think that Marcia Fudge does not play. She 223 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 3: is so serious about voting right. She was great on 224 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 3: that issue as chair. She cares deeply about children and 225 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:27,599 Speaker 3: snap benefits and equal education opportunities. She has an organizing 226 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 3: arm behind her as a former president of a Delta 227 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 3: Sigma Theta. Like I think that, and she does not 228 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 3: let me tell you about October babies. 229 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 6: She's gonna go hard in the paint. She get right 230 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 6: up there and be like, let me tell you what 231 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 6: you're not gonna do. Yeah, okay. 232 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: So Marcia Fudge is a former congresswoman of Ohio. She 233 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: left Congress to lead HUD under the Biden administration. She 234 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: since I left, and as Angela said, former president ADULTA 235 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 1: Sigma Theta. 236 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 6: She would be a gangster. Yeah, the other person who 237 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 6: would be really good is a girl can dream. I 238 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 6: would like Ben Crump. 239 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 2: Oh, I like that. 240 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 5: I like it. 241 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 6: I think that it's time that. 242 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 3: The the department that sits in the j Edgar Hoover Building, 243 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 3: can you. 244 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 6: Also rename that with an executive order? By the way, but. 245 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 3: If he's not going to rename that, I would like 246 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 3: to see somebody who fights for the civil rights of 247 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 3: all people running it, like just as an a front 248 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 3: end to j Edgar Hoover. 249 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 6: Just like this on the building. 250 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: So I have to be I hate to be a 251 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: dream damper, but I do wonder with all the things 252 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 1: that the DLJ is responsible for, would Ben Krunk be ideal. 253 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 2: In that space? I don't know. 254 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 1: And I know we all know Ben and love Ben, 255 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 1: but like when it comes to foreign policies and. 256 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 3: And just read this that Benkrupt should be the Attorney General. 257 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 3: And I would just remind Tiff that you know, everybody, 258 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 3: I mean, there are divisions, and just to get the back. 259 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 5: As well, I would just say Justice Katanji Brown Jackson 260 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 5: comes from the tradition of being a public defender in 261 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 5: the federal court system, which is unprecedented, unheard of to 262 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 5: be appointed to the Supreme Court. We have to do 263 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 5: the same thing with the U. S. Attorney attorneys general 264 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 5: because we've we've looked almost exclusively at prosecutors as a 265 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 5: you know, tried and true guaranteed must have in order 266 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 5: to be a US attorney or the Attorney General. And 267 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 5: the truth is the legal system is much more complex 268 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 5: than that. There are many way matters of accountability with injustice, 269 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 5: and I'd love to see someone who comes from a 270 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 5: different seated background with a respect for the law to 271 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 5: come in there and shake it up. 272 00:14:55,880 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 6: Public defend Okay, I have one more idea, James. 273 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: I could get with his James, Sure, James, But now 274 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: y'all got just kind of sold on the Ben Crump thing, 275 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: Like I like the idea of a public defender. 276 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, well, he's a public as a public. 277 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: I know he's not now, but he never worked as 278 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: a public defend Okay. 279 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 7: No, but his his his alignment with the the intersections 280 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 7: of law and justice, both through the civil as well 281 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 7: as the criminal uh elements that he's represented that he's 282 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 7: worked at. 283 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 5: Because of the nature of his work, he's gotten to 284 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 5: get involved with these families who sit at the intersection 285 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 5: of prosecutions as well as victimhood within the criminal justice system, 286 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 5: long before you ever typically see civil attorneys getting engaged 287 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 5: and involved. He's there from day zero, oftentimes ushering these 288 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 5: families through the criminal justice process and then being there 289 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 5: as a backstop when the civil side kicks up and 290 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 5: kick in. I just think his nuanced understanding is different 291 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 5: than really much of what we can find anywhere wholesale endorser. 292 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 2: I like that idea. 293 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 6: Guess what. I love you guys. 294 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 5: Sorry I missed half of it. 295 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 6: We gotta keep dreaming. No, no, Andrew, you did good. 296 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 3: And the sad part was as soon as your camera 297 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 3: went on then it went right out. 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