WEBVTT - Episode 255 w/ Cam’ron 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.480 Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of The Black Effect 0:00:02.480 --> 0:00:18.279 and I Heart Radio and it Drink Chat mothering podcast. 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:21.959 He's a legendary Queen's rappers. He segre's your boy here, 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:26.319 no r He's a Miami hippopon is d j e fn. 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:29.320 Together they drinking up with some of the biggest players 0:00:30.040 --> 0:00:34.279 in the most professional unprofessional podcast and yet number one 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:39.600 sorts for Drunk mother is New year' z just for 0:00:39.840 --> 0:00:49.640 Drinking Champs. Trink Up? Would it good? Be? Hopefully should be? 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:52.040 To see your boy? And what up? Is d J 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:54.480 e F And it's just drink Chats, motherfucking y'all? Ya 0:00:54.720 --> 0:01:00.840 makes up now right now? When I tell you this 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:07.919 is probably the most requested guests in Drink Champ's history. 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:14.480 The man is one of the most efficient hustlers in 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:18.480 this game. When I first met this brother, they were 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:22.960 doing card whales and he had everybody grown to ask 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:26.280 people from the record labor card whales. I wanted to 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:30.200 see men not looking an Olympic gym or some ship semn. 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:34.200 His brother is influential. If he says we're pink, thank god, 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:39.000 damn it, motherfucker's this gonna were pink he's put on 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:44.560 people ilustrious career, made one of the illest movies on 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:49.320 his own and major and independent. He's still out here. 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:57.000 It's fucking his NIAVL right now. I love it. I 0:01:57.080 --> 0:02:00.680 think that same y'all. My name. You know what I'm saying, 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:04.280 different nationalities to change the neighbor but keep sucking the 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:09.040 neighbor man. This man, like I said, it's influential. He's 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:12.200 put on other people that likes Jim Jones, Juel Santana, 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:15.080 you know, Freaky Zeki. These guys have changed the world 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:17.639 with when when dip set ran Ship New York was 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:22.120 New York mixtape, game Over came over, took over the rock. 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:25.840 We're gonna ask about all that Biggie Smalls I spoke 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:27.679 to the other day. He said, Biggie, that's one of 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:31.280 the biggest last request was to make sure Cameron gets 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:33.560 a deal. So in case y'all don't understand who the 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:42.200 hell I'm introducing, we did introducing killer motherfucking camera. Let 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:45.600 me sprek some creed man out real, spreate some creed 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:47.680 and there you know what I'm saying, kill the motherfucking 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:54.720 I can't tell you how proud I am to get 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:58.200 you listen, I'm gonna be honest. Your fans and our 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:01.760 fans are out niggas, like I can't even take a 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:03.520 mess with you. As soon as I take a person, 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:07.359 we're there chests stretch. So me and you spoke the 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:09.480 other day. I think he was having lunch. I think 0:03:09.680 --> 0:03:12.440 when we said and you said, yo, man said, Duke 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:16.359 told me wait for the culture. That my saying I 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:18.760 need to do it for the coaching man in my 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:21.200 comments and all that, so ip people can make out 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:25.919 make you this is this is all right? When when 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:29.080 everybody's top five, when you when when the person speaks 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:33.120 about a person's top five and big just as repeatedly 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:36.840 a part of that conversation, and when you know that 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:39.320 that was big. One of the biggest last requests was 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:41.000 to make sure that you gotta do because you wrote 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:43.640 crush on you for the Little Seeds part, not a 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:45.520 Little Kim part. Like if you listen to the album 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:49.000 version Little Seasons by something, I guess they couldn't get 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:50.920 Little Kim in the studio whatever you gotta ask on that, 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:53.520 but for a Little Seas part, yeall wrote that, So 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:56.160 how is that like, um, you got the call from 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:58.760 now what happened is they wanted to makes the right 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:02.960 like six songs for Kim or Sees or whoever. So 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:05.640 they paid him thirty thousand for like five songs and 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:07.960 he gave me five thousand for one of them and 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:11.840 crushed on you was to joint. So uh, Mace learned 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:14.040 it when and then did it after when when it 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:16.200 came out went platinum. Then I was like, I did it. 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:19.280 I'm one of my shot. That's how that went. But 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:20.840 they paid Mace to write some songs for him, and 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:22.480 Mace came to me to get it. So let me 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:26.560 ask you. I noticed is like pushing the story farther along. 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:28.760 But Big all of a sudden dies because Big you 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:32.760 met Big? Yeah, and so what what what was that exchange? Like, Um, 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:36.560 Mace took me the Bigg's house because I guess Big 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:40.159 was looking for artists. Uh. I got to his crib. 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:42.360 He had two bitches. His leg was broke. I think 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:43.960 he's in the car so that he had two bitches 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:47.040 in the bed and he was like a Biggie rhyme. 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:50.480 Yeah yeah he was. He just was like yello, man. 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:52.800 He wanted to say another kid that makes both them 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:55.160 and Mace was like Nae Kim is to do cam 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:59.040 really got it kind of yeah, yeah, definitely. So he 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:03.000 uh he put on like fifteen beats are beat. He 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:05.160 put on our rap to it. I used to have 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:08.440 mad wraps in my pocket, written wraps, no phone wraps, like, 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:12.200 so I just wrapped every beat and he's like that 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:15.280 said enough, I want to sign you. Then he called um. 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:19.120 I was like, bet, let's do the deal. So then 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:21.680 he passed away and they happened to be shooting. They 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:24.560 always love big popa video and harm because that was 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:27.839 my question because back in the days, if someone passed 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:30.479 a win, like you know, we didn't have like communication 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:32.640 like how we we didn't have Instagram, So how had 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:34.880 he passed away? How did you get Um? Yeah, I 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:40.240 see harm it. Always loved big paper video shoot and 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:41.880 I stepped to him. I'm like, yo, I'm gonna do 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:44.520 a big one to sign that. He's like, now I'm 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:46.040 in the middle of a finish up a deal with 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:47.960 Epic and as soon as I do, I'm gonna give 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:49.880 you the deal. And that's how it went. Just like that, 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:51.640 just ran down on him like what are we doing? 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:55.040 Oh god, damn god, damn. Miss some lost to that 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:00.640 I think one of the verses that you kicked the 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:02.360 verse for one of my old you haven't set up 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:05.640 and I brought the free style. You told me that 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:08.719 this was a verse you kicked forbid. Ok I don't 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:12.240 know if I told you that. Yeah, you do the 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:15.320 free stuff for Okay, I'm I can't. I can't say 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:16.680 about our roles do with you. I can get your 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:27.760 own bottom. Thank you enough. Okay, this is killer kid. 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:29.920 I've been a lot of money with a lot of 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:31.760 thugs and a lot of drugs. You know what I'm saying. 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:33.720 I might start the ship out with one of your 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:37.080 bitch as the biggest party for stunning I'm saying, but 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:39.320 right now with my day a e f hes about 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:42.000 to play something exclusive ship, So back the funk about 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:44.160 our face if you ain't talking about no cheesecakes ship. 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:46.800 She wanted to check the City Chian. That kid is 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:51.400 latest man's obligation fixing conturation cat sack. Strangely, those he 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:53.880 changed bes paid my old team more so they could 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:57.200 play at b frame me inside the Blue three used 0:06:57.200 --> 0:06:59.280 me with two keys, blue Chi and movie and me 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:02.000 playing group be who cheats The two bees even got 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:04.280 the coat that I trist in my Lucy. Got to 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:07.720 make arrangements. Before arrangements, say what's to say to say? 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:10.960 What's I cave it? But they's repentance before the sentence. 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:13.200 Just got to catch that girl that I was friends with. 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:15.680 It seems she was even my key from the visas 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:18.720 flight twenty three easton because the region her day was 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:21.760 Nat took a cab straight to Ltwaia cour at the 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:32.400 checking body killing. I don't remember. I don't even remember that. 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:36.120 You don't remember it, Na, I ain't gone. I'll be 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:38.360 listening to this ship like that. Remember, No, No, I 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:42.640 don't remember. Was too good that perfectly? One take? What 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:44.920 a big house? No know what I'm saying when it? 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:49.880 Oh yeah, yeah, I'll be on that like that. Yeah, 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:53.360 one take boys, man, So let's get to twenty nine. 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:55.720 See and what the fun is going on with tway 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:57.880 nine s she's just stalking up with you? How to 0:07:57.960 --> 0:08:00.600 like the stalking nothing? I mean, let's and man, it's 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:06.000 it's all. It's all proof case shit go left. You 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:08.320 gotta tape all that ship. You never know when it Mike. 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:10.800 First of all, it's in the complexion for the connections 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:13.160 on her side, so you never know when she's gonna 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:15.440 go right or wrong. But you know, I'm single. I'm 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:17.320 having fun. That's what's about. But this is what I got, 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:19.240 so I gotta get in your business bad. First, What 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:20.880 was the first? What was part one? I didn't see 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:24.320 part one. I've seen part DM me. She DM me. 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:25.800 It was in my d M s and she was 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:28.840 taping me from a terrorists. So when she was taping me, 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:30.760 I just posted it because she's like, she went out 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:32.839 of my black baby, So I thought that was funny. 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:36.880 I think that's funny too. Yeah, I thought that was funny. 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:39.720 And after that, you know you're staying up building by 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:43.400 the beach. We went to the beacht and like and 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:45.760 I'm not trying. You know, it's a lot of slot 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:47.800 niggers in here, so I want to be too much info, 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:49.960 but I'm not really in there. Like love, I'll beat 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:52.560 bitches up when I have secions, not bad because they 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:55.000 know that they got to want it. They want that, 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:58.640 so I'm really aggressive. That was part three. Then part four. 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:00.640 I don't feel like I'm obligating because I'm not in 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:03.200 a relationship, and you know that's where we are right now. 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:06.320 And then part five, Um, I've seen you in two g's. 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:10.040 What was your last night? Yeah? Yeah, we us a 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:12.760 full lot of them. No, he's in Brown County. Wasn't 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:16.840 all the way in for a lot of them, but yeah, playhouse, 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:21.000 playhouse to see the spots I go to like that. 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:23.839 But we's in we us in Brodwood County. We's having fun. 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:25.880 I got a little fun last night. We had a 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:27.800 great time last night. Actually, so let me ask you 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:30.400 to Twain nine ce pump or you pulled up what 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:34.880 Twain was in there? She was in there. I don't 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:37.040 know if it was random or what. If she spoted 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:39.400 followed the call, what happened. But we had a good 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:41.600 time last night. We're on good terms right now. We're 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:44.600 in great terms. She was running down you at one point. 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:50.199 This is why I don't say that's been going on? 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:55.280 What's been going on? Eight this morning? That's when this 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:59.640 eight this morning? Yo? Yo, you can't do this show. 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:05.680 You can't do this. No, no, no, no no, I'm 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:09.240 I'm gonna I'm gonna call security. Yo. I'm going to 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:14.760 to call I'm going to call security, yo. Yo. Yo. 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:17.199 Why first of all, why are you calling me and 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:28.559 you're outside the door, Yo? Yo, fruit, that's crazy. I'm like, 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:33.599 I gotta do this all that. Oh but that's this 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:42.640 and I'm talking about right here. Nope, nope, okay, I'm 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:46.640 getting to order protection. Yo, I'm telling you that I'm 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:52.839 getting to order. Yeah that was one day. I'll take that. 0:10:53.280 --> 0:11:00.079 I got more footage of that, but no, she just 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:02.680 gonna get living than that. Man, still get living than that. Okay, 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:05.240 So moving around. Remember the first time me and you, 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:08.679 matt Um, I remember the first time I've seen you. 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:10.959 I don't think we actually met. I was telling you know, 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:12.840 we're talking up a day and I was like, yo, 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:15.160 first time I seen you, I believe it was in 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:21.120 D and D studios and you were just mad, hyperactive. 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:24.200 When I elevated something like yo, left practice high right 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:28.320 going crazy and I'm like I'm on the elevator, like, yo, 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:31.199 what's doing because I don't really know what left racktill 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:33.959 and I'm like this dude's crazy, Like Yo, what's your name? 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:37.640 I'm like kid and he's like I'm Noriega and I'm 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:40.080 like it's good to meet you. Man. So I don't 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:42.719 know if that was like a formal introduction, but I 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:47.800 remember remember with that, but our formal real first time 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:51.800 like chilling was the clue tech. Okay, now I remember 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:54.560 that clearly a hundred percent, definitely that was a great 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:57.040 That was a great great I was legend Derry. I 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:00.719 remember that. Yeah, that was a great. Such that was 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:04.240 That was like our first introduction because I believe you'll 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:06.160 was supposed to do the clue tape and we were 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:09.000 supposed to do clue tape. And I think we either 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:11.360 came early or came late. That y'all a must have 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:16.800 came late. And who he was, I don't no bones 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:20.079 in jail. It was me and Trash was supposed to 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:22.840 do it. Emm wasn't really a rapper. And that's why 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:25.280 if you noticed, Mace caused him almany thug on the 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:27.559 on the joint, he doesn't say Emon thug because we 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:29.679 didn't he didn't really know his name. And the crazy 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:32.440 ship is, if you really listened to the freestyle, Trash 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:35.360 didn't know. He thought that they were the locks. So 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:37.560 he says that the andiges pick up to the locks. 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:42.360 It's like, this is a mess, Like well, I think 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:45.560 we didn't know each other, and then the stardom came 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:49.240 like this, this is the first freestyle and um, that's 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:51.800 it stuck to New York. Up. Ye, that's a fact. Clue. 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:53.679 You know, it was a lot of mixed tapes you 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:58.160 have rawn g s. But when Clue started doing them tapes, 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:00.719 you know, it was a big deal to be on 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:04.520 his tape. I remember listening to like Naas and Jungle 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:06.959 and jay Z and Source Money and a bunch of 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:09.760 different people. So to get on Clue save, you have 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:12.240 to take advantage of that situation, you know what I'm saying. 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:14.559 So we already knew what he was going there to do, 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:18.040 no matter who is there, it didn't matter if fucking 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:20.120 the best rapp in the world, then we knew what 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:21.920 we was coming to do. And y'all killed it too. 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:26.440 But that was our first introduction. And um, I believe 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:29.040 our relationships started from live. But moving on, I was 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:31.240 watching because when I do these interviews, I like to 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:33.520 go and do my little research. So one thing that 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:36.120 I noticed for the past couple of years in your 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:38.719 performance and your performance, you don't do none of your 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:41.520 old ship. You don't do like horse and carriage or 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:43.199 what mean the world are you? And stuff like that? 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:45.320 Is there a reason for that? I'll do what mean 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:47.280 the world are you I really want to do horse 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:50.319 And because like even though the album was dope, everybody 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:52.880 likes Confessions of Fire, it's not a hundred percent mine. 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:56.920 Like I wrote everything and you know, did everything, but 0:13:57.400 --> 0:13:58.880 had a lot of say on that. You know what 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:02.880 I'm saying, like a creative dude, and I'm a creative dude. 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:04.720 But if you're want the car, it's only one stand 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:07.600 where only one person could drive. So we class heads 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:09.640 a lot, and not in a bad way, just creatively. 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:12.120 But you gotta realize from the point of view, I 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:16.079 saw my deal in September seven something like that, nine 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:21.400 November whenever. But Biggie died in March, so they lived 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:24.280 with Big. That's the man. Everything I did I compared 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:27.080 to Big, like, yo, Big, what it did? It Like 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:28.960 this is a big thing like that because that was 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:31.480 his crew. And I'm like, I'm not from Brooklyn, I'm 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:33.720 not Big. It's only one Big, you know. You gotta 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:35.920 let me beat myself. So a lot of that Confessor 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:38.800 is a fire album. It was clashing and I don't 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:40.600 really listen to that ship that much. A lot of 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:43.000 people love it, but I don't really. It's not me. 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:46.080 So when you start getting the s d E. Come 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:49.960 home with Me, diplomat ship rockets. Yeah, all that ship 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:52.920 is mine. That's what I did the first album. It 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:56.080 was like collaboration and I'm not saying it's bad, but 0:14:56.720 --> 0:15:00.560 I like that. Like I'm sure if you tell Nas 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:02.960 and J and all these greades that first album, it 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:05.800 is a collapse too because you're learning the game, right. So, um, 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:07.800 but that's interested to hear Houston he say that. Yeah, 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:09.840 I just don't. I don't funk with that album like that, 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:11.600 and I love it. I'm not mad at it, but 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:14.840 I wasn't comfortable in my skin doing that album. That 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:17.000 was too much yell big what it said? This Like 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:20.600 every session it was like if Biggie was here big 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:22.440 with you know what I'm saying. And you can't even 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:25.200 knock them because they're still mourning. Really, you know what 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:29.040 I'm saying. Like he wasn't the biggest rapper right exactly, 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:31.000 you know what I'm saying. So it is what it is. 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:33.080 But I don't really perform nothing of that ship because 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:35.520 I don't really consider that a hundreds of scent my music. 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:39.480 So what's your favorite album? Speaking of that? Um, I 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:41.440 like Purple Haze. I was in a good zone when 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:44.040 Purple Haze came out. I was in a great rhythm. 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:46.080 You know what I'm saying. That's probably my favorite drink. 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:49.160 I like rock Well come home with me. That's right. 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:51.280 When we got to Rockefeller, Like, we had a bunch 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:52.760 of sep What you gotta realize, we had a lot 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:54.840 of mixtapes to them put out. You know what I'm saying, 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:56.720 A bunch of mix tapes. So but if I have 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:58.680 to pick my favorite autum, I say it's Purple Haze. 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:03.280 You felt at the time when you felt it was 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:07.360 all you, Yeah, not from s D. From Sden on. 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:09.040 It was all me. But I just was in a 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:11.440 n t to sue you for s the because didn't 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:16.240 you have like but it was the basketball in the gun, 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:20.040 like the posters up from for that ship. They really 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:21.480 see it. They just made us take it down. There 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:23.240 wasn't no big lawsuit or none of that ship. But 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:26.760 they wouldn't they wouldn't let us advertise using the NBA 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:29.720 logo with a gun. This was an idea at the time, 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:32.160 you know what I'm saying. So, but U s D 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:35.200 one to today everything I felt is my what I 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:37.600 wanted to do. Ain't nothing worse than I mean, the 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:39.840 album with Gold. But to me, I felt I was 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:42.360 applied to mortists in my brain, you know what I'm saying. 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:47.960 So to me, it's nothing worse than not succeeding when 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:49.960 it's not your idea. So like, if I'm gonna fail, 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:52.360 let it be my ship. I want to fail doing 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:53.760 what I want to do. I don't want to fail 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:57.080 doing your idea. And that's how I feel about Ship. 0:16:57.160 --> 0:17:00.760 That's how I felt about uh Confession a fire album. 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:04.479 But here's hiss, his hiss, the deal boom. You got 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:06.440 you dealing with this one ego on his one side. 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:09.200 You gotta you feel like you're gonna get out of 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:12.040 this deal and then you get with this other ego 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:16.119 that worked at least for that time. But what you 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:24.960 talking about exactly, because I mean, what kind of because 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:29.080 like I'm imagining, I'm not I'm not sorring imagining leaving 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:32.520 from on You're saying to yourself, Okay, it was a clash. 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:34.280 You don't want to go through that. It's not a 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:39.639 bad clash. Trash me, trash class opinions. Someone say it 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:42.280 was a good class class And I had to do 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:47.399 the same thing. But when you you the hottest fucking 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:50.359 label happened to be Yeah, man, I think y'all from 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:55.040 from from Harlem and then you go to the rock 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:57.159 Is it? Is it any of that what you just 0:17:57.280 --> 0:18:01.359 dealt with with? Yeah, with DNA, what happened. What happened 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:05.520 with Dane was this. So when I left her Entertainment, 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:10.840 I got to Sony to Epic directly because they got 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:14.040 to keep whatever artists they unknost this deal or whatever 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:16.359 artists they wanted to take from his label, they got 0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:22.240 the key. So when I got the epic, I ain't 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:23.960 really I'm starting to learning the game. I didn't really 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:26.680 know the game and entertainment, you know. I got a deal. 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:28.359 I'm sorrying I signed a fifty but some of my 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:31.160 publishing not knowing I knew, but I didn't give a funk. 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:35.600 I just wanted Brad, did you get red for the Yeah? 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:39.800 They gave me bread, but yeah, yeah, but it was 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:43.480 not the bread you're supposed to get that first deal 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:51.560 on one. Yeah. So, um, when I got the epic, 0:18:53.000 --> 0:18:55.400 you know, she moving slow, you know, it's like corporate. 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:57.320 So as a girl that who was cool with me, 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:00.880 and she started schooling me to what niggas wasn't doing. 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:04.520 Like it was the records, wasn't getting spending certain states. 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:08.200 My fucking promotion wasn't going right. And she's like, that 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:11.359 Nigga run promotion, that nigga run your market, and that 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:14.360 nigga do X y Z and epic. Because I'm going 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:16.080 up there and seeing what's something, She's like, look, you're 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:17.919 not getting no spence here. You're not getting no spence here. 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:19.879 You're like, you know, Spence said, you're not doing this. 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:23.159 This nigga run your market and it's no marketing dollars 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:26.199 being spent. But you know he got a brand new 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:28.960 car outside. So I'm like, I'm like, when Nigga is 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:30.600 doing the money, you know what I'm saying. So I'm 0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:32.480 learning all this ship She's telling me all this, So 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:34.639 now I'm like, Nigga is trying to play me. So 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:37.520 me and Dame had to fall out. I used to 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:39.200 rock with Dame when I was young. You know, I 0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:41.080 used to do ship for him. You know what I'm saying. 0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:43.720 You don't have to be specific about what, but I 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:45.680 used to run around and do ship for Dame, you 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:48.280 know what I'm saying. So we fell out when I 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:51.320 was young. He he was just getting his deal. I 0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:53.480 was just trying to get my deal because but that's 0:19:53.520 --> 0:19:55.600 my man since I was thirteen years old, you know 0:19:55.600 --> 0:19:57.840 what I'm saying. So I already know his ego ain't 0:19:57.840 --> 0:20:02.199 no problem. Now I'm seeing what's going on a sony 0:20:02.800 --> 0:20:04.640 and I'm like Rocket fell is on top of the world. 0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:07.080 I know Dame got other distribution beside definitely him. He 0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:09.919 had a lecturer, he had to land and got mad distributions. 0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:11.960 So I was like, I gotta swallow my product and 0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:13.720 go talk to my men because I'm like, yo, I 0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:15.600 took a risk. I took mad risk for you, bro. 0:20:16.200 --> 0:20:17.680 You know what I'm saying, Like you can at least 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:20.680 He's like yo, he like, Cam, ain't no big deal. 0:20:20.760 --> 0:20:22.879 You know, you get out to deal with give me 0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:25.760 one of my distribution. So I'm like, I ain't bet 0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:27.600 he said, if you get out to deal like yeah, 0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:31.159 Like yeah, So I'm like, yo, bet So now I'm 0:20:31.200 --> 0:20:34.200 just going to four um epic every day with like 0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:37.480 forty niggas and making that Mad uncomfortable. Like I'm like 0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:41.000 niggas is running up people cubicles eating they lunch, you know, 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:44.200 we're going in Dave mcphe's offense taking his calls to 0:20:44.320 --> 0:20:47.800 the point where it's like mad undercover cops and epic 0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:50.960 every day. Because I was going every day with forty niggas. 0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:53.040 My nigga Luke got Brady Tylerman was like forty of 0:20:53.160 --> 0:20:56.000 us going every day. So then niggas was just like 0:20:56.920 --> 0:21:00.040 this beginning becoming a headache. So Dame came up and 0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:01.879 talk to Damon Fish and he's like, Yo, this is 0:21:01.920 --> 0:21:04.920 not gonna stop you not as well let him out. 0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:08.080 So he eventually let me out. And when I got 0:21:08.160 --> 0:21:11.600 the Rocket Feller, I told Dame might say, y'all, I 0:21:11.600 --> 0:21:12.920 don't know if I want to come to Rocket Feller. 0:21:12.960 --> 0:21:16.360 You got all a distribution with a lecture and whoever else, 0:21:16.400 --> 0:21:17.840 Maybe we should take it over there because I know 0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:19.320 what I'm coming with. I already know the game. Now 0:21:19.359 --> 0:21:21.840 I just got jerked. I'm not gonna get jerked again. 0:21:21.880 --> 0:21:23.480 But I knew Dame won't trying to drink me anyway, 0:21:23.480 --> 0:21:26.040 because now you gotta record label this popping, and you 0:21:26.119 --> 0:21:28.280 got my man who's trying to teach me instead of robbing. 0:21:29.240 --> 0:21:35.680 So when that happened, I came up to Rocket Feller. 0:21:35.680 --> 0:21:37.560 He's like, now it's gonna be cooler. Rocket, I'm telling 0:21:37.560 --> 0:21:40.119 you everything is straight. We're gonna be good. And when 0:21:40.160 --> 0:21:43.240 we got there, we just, uh, we just funked up 0:21:43.280 --> 0:21:45.440 an epic. We just turned into animals and went crazy 0:21:45.560 --> 0:21:48.000 up there and just put music out because it seems 0:21:48.040 --> 0:21:51.399 like But I but to answer your question, no, I 0:21:51.440 --> 0:21:52.960 ain't have no problem with Dame Dame. You know what 0:21:53.119 --> 0:21:55.560 Dame told me. Dame told me this. Dame said, look, 0:21:56.359 --> 0:21:58.520 anybody loves you and harm you didn't think up there, 0:21:58.800 --> 0:22:01.800 this is what we're gonna do. You're gonna give your 0:22:01.800 --> 0:22:05.119 opportunity to an album. If it don't work, you know, 0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:06.600 at least you got your job and you can answer 0:22:06.640 --> 0:22:08.320 phones and ship. You know what I'm saying, nothing like 0:22:09.320 --> 0:22:14.560 like like no, I don't want to. But he was 0:22:14.640 --> 0:22:17.000 that serious. He wasn't joking. But that's real ship though. 0:22:17.400 --> 0:22:19.520 You know what I'm saying that he was still willing 0:22:19.560 --> 0:22:23.000 to give me a job if this ship ain't go right. Okay, 0:22:23.080 --> 0:22:24.960 let me ask you a question. Is it's a fair 0:22:25.000 --> 0:22:27.920 assessment to say that once you came Rocket fella, you 0:22:28.000 --> 0:22:32.160 became a superstar. Um, if I don't like the huge 0:22:32.359 --> 0:22:34.400 and I think that's for public to decide if you're 0:22:34.400 --> 0:22:37.919 a superstar, megastar, whatever. Period. I just think I became 0:22:37.960 --> 0:22:41.359 more recognizable in the household man. Yeah, absolutely, and they 0:22:41.440 --> 0:22:43.680 can start paying attention to more of what I was doing. 0:22:44.240 --> 0:22:45.920 And it was like, this is what I want to 0:22:46.000 --> 0:22:47.760 do anyway, you know, I want to bring my niggas 0:22:47.800 --> 0:22:51.200 in and you know, start a crew and have artists, etcetera, etcetera. 0:22:51.280 --> 0:22:53.399 You know what I'm saying. Like, it's like you, I 0:22:53.440 --> 0:22:57.680 don't know if you've ever seen uh boutang series? You 0:22:57.800 --> 0:23:03.200 know yea in order them one da It's a great series. 0:23:03.240 --> 0:23:05.359 Didn't even get to the rap part yet after season one. 0:23:05.440 --> 0:23:07.399 But at the same time, I consider that ship my 0:23:07.520 --> 0:23:10.119 story kind of like Rising story. He had to label, 0:23:10.160 --> 0:23:12.000 we had to put out the single he didn't want 0:23:12.000 --> 0:23:14.320 to put out. Then we got out the fucking deal. 0:23:14.680 --> 0:23:17.600 He started putting together all the ship that he wanted 0:23:17.640 --> 0:23:19.440 to do. But you know what I'm saying, So to me, 0:23:19.560 --> 0:23:22.439 that's kind of the same scenario because it's this famous 0:23:22.480 --> 0:23:26.400 line like you who else said one time for cam 0:23:26.520 --> 0:23:32.760 for taking over the rock? Did it seems like everything 0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:35.600 was different from that moment on out side looking in 0:23:35.920 --> 0:23:38.560 even though, even though like I knew you, Damn it's 0:23:38.560 --> 0:23:42.600 twenty years, it's seven. I was side looking at I 0:23:42.680 --> 0:23:44.560 thought that everything was sweet. I thought you, I think 0:23:44.560 --> 0:23:48.240 it's went there, really took it over. But I didn't 0:23:48.240 --> 0:23:50.480 think you had no problems. I didn't think none of this. 0:23:50.680 --> 0:23:55.760 Then that line actually says, and then everything kind of changed. 0:23:55.800 --> 0:23:57.960 I think Karen Sibyl said it was over parking spy 0:23:58.480 --> 0:24:00.760 and all this ship. Do you thing? I know, I'm 0:24:00.760 --> 0:24:04.400 asking you to carrosson. We don't know what the funk 0:24:04.480 --> 0:24:06.520 she'd be talking about. Sometimes she got to shut the 0:24:06.600 --> 0:24:08.960 funk out. She just be trying to get cloud for 0:24:09.040 --> 0:24:10.639 her ship, you know what I'm saying. She was my 0:24:10.800 --> 0:24:14.240 employee too, and I called about lying about that ship, like, 0:24:14.680 --> 0:24:16.520 I know you're doing whatever you're doing to get your 0:24:16.560 --> 0:24:18.399 ship popping and all that, but you worked for me 0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:20.480 for like three years. Stop with the lion and ship. 0:24:20.760 --> 0:24:22.679 So you because you're cloud chasing and you ain't got 0:24:22.760 --> 0:24:24.920 you already established, you know what I'm saying. I don't 0:24:24.920 --> 0:24:27.760 got no problem with her, but over that situation right there, 0:24:27.800 --> 0:24:29.359 I called her like what are you talking about? And 0:24:29.480 --> 0:24:31.159 she's like, oh no, they made this. I said, I 0:24:31.280 --> 0:24:34.680 heard it all right, So let's just address that type 0:24:34.720 --> 0:24:37.760 of woman wasn't. This is what happened. You wanna know 0:24:37.800 --> 0:24:45.960 what happened? We got the rocket. Drink with me or something. Man, 0:24:46.040 --> 0:24:50.080 please give me some water and drinking water, drinking, I'm 0:24:50.119 --> 0:24:58.320 not drinking. Let's try something now, ain't drinking. But basically, well, 0:24:58.680 --> 0:25:03.040 so we get the rocket. Fellow, um, I said, we 0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:07.680 just got jerked. So we know the game and what's 0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:11.920 going on is we're not waiting for nobody. You get 0:25:11.960 --> 0:25:14.040 what I'm saying. We're not sitting around waiting for Dame 0:25:14.119 --> 0:25:17.040 to do something or bigs at jail or whoever. We're 0:25:17.080 --> 0:25:19.600 going to bust the moves. So when we get there, 0:25:20.400 --> 0:25:22.400 Bobby Dash the radio we get wanted him to get 0:25:22.520 --> 0:25:25.760 radio boom, start building a rapport with him. You know 0:25:25.760 --> 0:25:29.520 what I'm saying. We started learning everybody who does what 0:25:29.720 --> 0:25:31.960 in office, the a and rs and people who picked beats, 0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:34.880 that secretaries, everybody. We're building the report. So we're going 0:25:34.960 --> 0:25:39.280 there every single day. Uh. And what we did was 0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:42.720 we took advantage of a studio baseline studios, so we 0:25:42.800 --> 0:25:46.399 would whenever jail being Memphis Bleak of Beans or whoever, 0:25:46.560 --> 0:25:50.440 wasn't performed recording. We would go in there and we 0:25:50.520 --> 0:25:52.800 would record, but if we have to stay there or night, 0:25:52.960 --> 0:25:54.640 no matter what it was, you know what I'm saying. 0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:57.199 So then we did a mixtape. You know, a lot 0:25:57.200 --> 0:26:00.560 of people don't know we really did the first artist mixtape. 0:26:01.680 --> 0:26:04.480 You know, you had mixtapes, but all the artists was 0:26:04.560 --> 0:26:10.600 on DJ's mixtape. Fifty did it after us. And I'm 0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:12.960 not sitting there trying to take credit because it's like 0:26:13.119 --> 0:26:15.240 who invited the toilet? You don't really give a funk. 0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:17.400 You're gonna take a ship, you know what I'm saying. 0:26:18.160 --> 0:26:20.320 But I'm just telling you. We started doing our own 0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:23.440 mixtapes first because he's on everybody mix tape, like, you 0:26:23.560 --> 0:26:26.479 might as well do our own ship. So then Damion like, yo, 0:26:26.600 --> 0:26:28.560 y'all putting out free music? What the funk are y'all doing? 0:26:28.560 --> 0:26:30.879 And I'm like, yo, you gotta build a buzz if 0:26:30.920 --> 0:26:33.440 the streets funk with it. Then He's like, now we 0:26:33.480 --> 0:26:35.640 gotta sell this ship. We gotta sell. I say, broe 0:26:36.200 --> 0:26:38.160 have more music, gonall be ready, you know what I'm saying. 0:26:38.280 --> 0:26:43.480 So we're doing all this ship. Now I'm learning with depth. 0:26:43.560 --> 0:26:46.080 Jimmy's that def jam, I don't remember this, Dann says upstairs. 0:26:46.119 --> 0:26:48.160 So now I'm going to funk with Kevin Lows every day. 0:26:48.160 --> 0:26:50.720 I'm like, yeah, what's up, man, I got this. You know, 0:26:50.800 --> 0:26:52.880 I'm funking with this song. So I'm going funk with Leo, 0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:55.400 going to funk with Julie Greenwall. You know what I'm saying. 0:26:55.440 --> 0:27:00.399 I'm like, that's my crew. Yeah, I love that, yeah, Kiser, 0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:06.840 Yeah you know, yeah exactly, yeah, yeah, fat cat. So 0:27:07.119 --> 0:27:09.200 I'm up there fucking with them, thank you, sucking with 0:27:09.280 --> 0:27:16.720 them every day. And so we're up there, it's too 0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:24.200 big closets, like walking closets. It's mad posted boards and 0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:26.480 shipping them in front of the closets, cubical so it's 0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:28.960 two closets. We're talking fell the offices and they yeah, 0:27:28.960 --> 0:27:31.280 in their offices, but you know they offered they were 0:27:31.280 --> 0:27:36.360 seting there with Murder in Murder Ink was up there too. Yeah, 0:27:36.600 --> 0:27:41.560 so nobody's using these closets. But they big closets and 0:27:41.600 --> 0:27:43.760 it's cubicles in front of them. So we used to 0:27:43.760 --> 0:27:46.760 stay to everybody leaves, so we cleaned them ships out. 0:27:47.520 --> 0:27:49.320 I got the phone man, you know, we stay up 0:27:49.359 --> 0:27:51.200 the smoke. We got the phone that you put the 0:27:51.240 --> 0:27:53.480 phone line in here, put the phone line in there. 0:27:54.000 --> 0:27:56.760 So it used to be in Dame office every day. 0:27:56.880 --> 0:28:00.880 So then we're chilling in front of um. We saw 0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:03.760 walking past Dame offer. They're like, what's up? So they 0:28:03.840 --> 0:28:05.560 walked past, so they're like, yo, where the fund? Y'all 0:28:05.640 --> 0:28:07.040 keep going down there and they're like, no, we got 0:28:07.119 --> 0:28:10.280 the office. So Nig's like, how the fund you get office? 0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:13.639 And I'm like, we it was just closet space. We 0:28:13.720 --> 0:28:16.360 put some dusk in there. We caught some hire some interns. 0:28:17.720 --> 0:28:21.240 So niggas is like that's I said, look, look, look 0:28:21.240 --> 0:28:23.960 I see nigga's faces. Don't funk with this ship. Man, 0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:27.159 y'all could have been did this ship? Seemed like it's 0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:30.720 been for years. I remember the niggas sparks from state 0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:32.720 property coming there, like, how the fun him come in 0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:35.560 here and get a fucking office already? How the niggas 0:28:35.560 --> 0:28:39.040 getting officers and orders other ship? And I'm like, yo, bro, 0:28:39.200 --> 0:28:41.920 y'all y'all in this situation that I was, But y'all 0:28:41.920 --> 0:28:44.480 in a better situation, y'all being taken care of. I 0:28:44.560 --> 0:28:46.160 don't really want to be taken care of. I know 0:28:46.280 --> 0:28:48.120 what's going on. Now, I don't need to wait for 0:28:48.400 --> 0:28:50.760 Dame to say do this and do that. And I'm 0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:53.360 an asset and not saying there was a liability. But 0:28:53.480 --> 0:28:56.000 I'm coming with ship already done. I got jerked my 0:28:56.160 --> 0:28:59.280 first couple of albums, as far as I'm concerned. So 0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:02.160 now I know what to do. So Nigger started taking 0:29:02.400 --> 0:29:06.440 heat and that, like Kim got the office, got secretaries 0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:10.520 and all this ship out out out. I'm like, all right, whatever, man, 0:29:10.600 --> 0:29:12.560 I don't really care about nobody feeling, you know what 0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:15.640 I'm saying. So I told Dame. I said, Yo, look 0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:19.560 I got this Dipper mass ship going on. You wanna 0:29:19.600 --> 0:29:22.040 funk with it? Let me know. He's like, yo, Kim, yeah, 0:29:22.080 --> 0:29:23.760 I mayn't even come out, Yeah, you got the children. 0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:26.800 I'm like, well, you don't really be out like I'm out. 0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:30.360 We're building a buzz bro something coming outside. Yeah yeah, 0:29:30.400 --> 0:29:31.760 not not like that. I ain't want to playing. But 0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:33.960 I'm telling him he don't know what's going on. So 0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:36.040 I'm like, bro, you you need to jump on this 0:29:36.280 --> 0:29:39.920 pause before get crazy. He like, Kim, you didn't even 0:29:39.960 --> 0:29:41.720 put your ship out yet. I said, I ain't cool, 0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:46.600 No problem going my man. Kevin Love's office, I said, yo, 0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:49.040 when he played my artist Jewels played the song players 0:29:49.120 --> 0:29:52.080 dipping that project, and he said, I wanted I want 0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:54.760 to sign the whole Diplomat ship. I said, back, this 0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:58.440 is this is right after Dame isn't paid it for 0:29:58.600 --> 0:30:01.320 or not. Excuse me hard knock like screaming on Kevins 0:30:01.440 --> 0:30:05.560 for giving one of his artists death Jam jacket. So 0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:09.960 this is after this, yeah continue yeah, so yeah, so 0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:13.880 so so Dame is like, I mean, Kevin is like better, 0:30:13.880 --> 0:30:15.760 I want everything, I said. I had my lawyer's called 0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:18.080 we get all this ship together. So the next day 0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:21.560 I give Dame the courtesy. I said. Look, I said, yo, 0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:25.240 I know i'm your artists, but I'm about to do 0:30:25.240 --> 0:30:27.640 a joint venture deal with death Jam, with Juels and 0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:30.080 diplomats and all that. He's like, what we are you 0:30:30.120 --> 0:30:32.920 talking about? What are you talking about? I said, let's 0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:38.920 calm down. I said, I said, you're going crazy. Said 0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:42.120 you gotta calm down. Bro I bought it to you first. 0:30:42.600 --> 0:30:45.640 You told me to chill. Now I'm about to do this. 0:30:45.920 --> 0:30:49.360 Oh not kevitist doing that, because now he's doing that 0:30:49.480 --> 0:30:52.080 to make me mad, I said, bro. Man the Nigga's 0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:55.800 jewels is nice. I tried to tell you this man, No, no, no, 0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:57.640 we're going down in there. I grabbed. I said, we're 0:30:57.720 --> 0:31:00.200 not going down there there. You're not gonna sunk this money. 0:31:00.760 --> 0:31:04.400 He said, if if the deal don't go through, I'll 0:31:04.400 --> 0:31:06.880 give you the money postget him. I said, right now, 0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:10.800 we could go there. Yeah, like a mill on the table, 0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:13.360 close to the mill. So I'm like, yo, we go 0:31:13.480 --> 0:31:15.640 down there. He goes yelling, call. I'm looking at Kevin. 0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:19.800 I got a good relations I want to seem like 0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:22.560 I told now you're trying to gas him up. Now 0:31:22.640 --> 0:31:25.120 that doing doing gonna do this deal only to make 0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:29.160 me mad. Kevin is like, Dame, I'm not trying to 0:31:29.200 --> 0:31:30.800 make you mad. I like the kids. Who else? I 0:31:30.920 --> 0:31:33.360 like the diplomat ship. I want to funk with it. Now, 0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:36.440 you're just going crazy. You would. It's going through Rockefeller. 0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:39.800 It's going through Rockefeller. Kevin's like, Dame. If it goes 0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:42.040 through death m or it goes through Rocket Feller, I 0:31:42.120 --> 0:31:45.560 get the same salary. It doesn't matter who it goes through. 0:31:45.840 --> 0:31:48.280 So if you wanted to go through there, yeah, yeah, 0:31:48.320 --> 0:31:51.320 it's going through us. So now we get the deal. 0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:53.880 You know, end up going through Damian Dame argue because 0:31:54.360 --> 0:32:00.080 I got a blunt roller from Peru. Man, I'm so 0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:11.240 nah so the nigger um. So the deal was taking 0:32:11.280 --> 0:32:12.840 a while. It took like a month when it was 0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:14.680 could of took a week. So now me and dam 0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:17.360 is going getting into it. I'm like, bro, I got 0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:19.760 ship to do. Man like, yo, you're holding me up. 0:32:20.560 --> 0:32:22.600 He's like, yo, Man, this down the third I said, look, 0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:26.880 I'm gonna need a nine hundred thousand because you told 0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:28.520 me if this deal don't go through, you're gonna give 0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:32.760 me the bread. So, long story short, the bread came 0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:35.120 next week. So we got the deal and then duels 0:32:35.160 --> 0:32:38.680 was signed. There, diplomats was signed. There. Now was Juel 0:32:38.800 --> 0:32:42.480 signed directly to def dam No he signed, He signed 0:32:42.520 --> 0:32:45.760 a diplomat and I had a drink venture with through 0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:48.400 rocket Feller with def Jam, but he was gonna be 0:32:48.560 --> 0:32:51.880 signed through diplomat no matter what to def Jam. Dame 0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:55.080 just wanted the rocket Feller logo on the deal as well. 0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:57.440 It's still a drint venture deal for me, you know 0:32:57.440 --> 0:33:00.640 what I'm saying. So I remember you was you was 0:33:00.680 --> 0:33:04.719 shopping duels to violated offices. Remember that, Yeah, I remember 0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:08.360 for I think me buster rhymes and Chris like, yeah, yeah, 0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:13.920 I remember that. That's so how did you know? You? 0:33:14.000 --> 0:33:16.800 And Jim Jones story as well documented how how you 0:33:16.880 --> 0:33:19.840 guys mad, how you guys go up together and been free? 0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:24.600 But Joel's was a later on edition. Correct, well, Joel 0:33:24.640 --> 0:33:27.160 was one of my second album. Yeah, you know. As 0:33:27.200 --> 0:33:29.280 soon as I left that, I ran into him, like 0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:34.040 my my best friend in elementary school basically was like, yeah, 0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:35.440 I got this kid this hot, and I got my 0:33:35.440 --> 0:33:37.920 ship together. At the time, I'm like, I don't really 0:33:37.960 --> 0:33:39.840 want to listen nobody. Time. I get my ship together, 0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:41.880 and I fell asleep on my car. He was dropping 0:33:41.920 --> 0:33:44.280 my car, and when I woke up, Juel was in 0:33:44.320 --> 0:33:45.840 my back seat. He's like, just to came, I'm telling 0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:48.120 you about. I'm like, yo, bro, what are you doing this? 0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:52.720 It's weird, don't know what woke up? No, I woke up. 0:33:52.800 --> 0:33:54.160 He's like, this is Nick I'm telling you about. But 0:33:54.160 --> 0:33:56.520 I told him I didn't want to meet him because 0:33:56.560 --> 0:33:59.640 I'm like, my ship wasn't right. So when he woke up, 0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:01.040 I'm and now I'm like, why did you do this? 0:34:01.400 --> 0:34:03.480 So I'm like, yeah, you're already in the car rap 0:34:03.680 --> 0:34:05.240 and when he wrapped, he was super, HOWD. I'm like, 0:34:05.920 --> 0:34:07.640 this kid, it's tough. So I'm writing them to the 0:34:07.720 --> 0:34:10.759 studio and we started working on s D album. He's like, 0:34:10.840 --> 0:34:13.880 actually on two songs on s D album. Yeah. So 0:34:14.520 --> 0:34:16.839 he's been with me since he's like fifteen, sixteen years old. 0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:18.600 You know, he didn't want to go to school because 0:34:19.760 --> 0:34:21.200 he went to school and watch his heights and he 0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:25.640 said his teachers didn't speak English and he couldn't understand him. Yeah. Man, 0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:29.600 so I made him write that's that. But that's how 0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:32.359 you've been up. I said, that's how long you've been down. 0:34:32.480 --> 0:34:37.880 Since he's fifteen years old. Sixteen. Yeah, he's going act 0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:41.239 on the Instagram all the time. He making you the 0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:44.040 man on Instagram brother right now. He told me I 0:34:44.080 --> 0:34:49.680 gotta respect his fan base. Yeah, that's Mr pod Man. Well, 0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:57.360 can't keep a pot man. That's so you've just the 0:34:57.440 --> 0:35:02.120 same same time about so obviously, the first time I 0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:06.560 met you was it was a freestyle session. You know, 0:35:06.680 --> 0:35:08.120 we said, we said, dn D, I believe you. I 0:35:08.200 --> 0:35:12.239 just don't remember the actual particulars of that, but that 0:35:12.400 --> 0:35:15.680 freestyle and it was you, Mace and Car that that 0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:17.760 was a dn D Studios, So that was you remember 0:35:17.840 --> 0:35:21.520 studios that that as Unique Studios and that's the only 0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:23.600 studio we come for. Yeah, you know that was like 0:35:23.760 --> 0:35:25.560 that was like the step up of D and D. 0:35:26.280 --> 0:35:32.279 But it's not right track, it's not due. I think 0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:34.759 he used to plant the roaches in there. Thing used 0:35:34.800 --> 0:35:41.600 to come like. But so for me, I mean, and 0:35:41.680 --> 0:35:46.759 you had a relationship. But that was you and Mace 0:35:47.280 --> 0:35:49.920 and Car that I had always thought, y'all, I was 0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:53.319 a group. I thought that was Harlem World right then 0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:56.160 the children in the corner, No, that that's the way 0:35:56.280 --> 0:35:59.680 before n you know, it's crazy. I was doing you 0:35:59.719 --> 0:36:01.120 know what. I'm in the middle doing my dock and 0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:03.600 they fly the moving pieces. You know that need to 0:36:03.640 --> 0:36:05.719 be explained, like sooner the corner was big el Ship 0:36:06.560 --> 0:36:10.440 and me my God blesses that my man blood Shed 0:36:10.520 --> 0:36:12.359 and the producer Digger kind of ran with the name. 0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:13.960 But Big I was trying to put the crew together 0:36:14.640 --> 0:36:17.879 and it was like Nicks from the Bronx and from Queens, 0:36:17.960 --> 0:36:19.759 Nicks from all over. So niggas didn't see each other 0:36:19.840 --> 0:36:22.440 every day like me blood and Digging this so and 0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:27.480 her McGruff too. So we kept the name. So but 0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:30.480 Farst caught in Mace and whatever and me called in 0:36:30.600 --> 0:36:32.719 and Mace, yeah, you know, Make got the deal with 0:36:32.800 --> 0:36:36.959 bad Boy. He was running around with them with Mace 0:36:37.680 --> 0:36:40.800 and you know, doing these free styles to clue freestyles everything. 0:36:41.120 --> 0:36:46.239 Uh yeah, absolutely, So we always hanging run around with Mace, 0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:50.440 and Mace got this deal and uh we Mace had 0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:52.440 Hall and World. He wanted to name in Halloworld. So 0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:55.160 when he got his deal, he ended up getting uh 0:36:56.239 --> 0:37:01.440 label deal from Jamaine Duprie and a joint venture Hall 0:37:01.520 --> 0:37:03.960 and World. So so deaf because so Jamaine du Pre 0:37:04.080 --> 0:37:05.840 missed out on signing Makes he wanted to That's what 0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:08.719 makes want to sign with Originally the main du Pre 0:37:09.000 --> 0:37:10.719 missed out on it, so he doubled back to do 0:37:10.840 --> 0:37:14.279 the label dere and Mace was giving out. He was 0:37:14.400 --> 0:37:17.120 recruiting niggas in the group and nobody really robbed. It 0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:19.640 was like, even as my brother you got how the 0:37:19.800 --> 0:37:21.920 six how wasn't no rapper? You know what I'm saying, 0:37:21.960 --> 0:37:24.800 I like I write it for him, sugar j He 0:37:24.840 --> 0:37:28.560 ain't no rapper. His sister not no rapper. Loon just 0:37:28.680 --> 0:37:31.080 started rapping at the time. I believe I don't want 0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:33.879 to tell what Loon started, but he was just coming 0:37:33.960 --> 0:37:36.399 on the scene as a rapper. And then they got 0:37:36.800 --> 0:37:39.440 nigger named men know who really did rap. So I'm like, 0:37:39.480 --> 0:37:41.640 we could write these niggas because we're thinking the niggas 0:37:41.680 --> 0:37:44.000 who want to selling. So I believe we got deal 0:37:44.040 --> 0:37:46.640 for two million dollars. He was getting everybody ten thousand dollars, 0:37:47.320 --> 0:37:49.000 so he's about to get me ten thousands. I'm like, 0:37:49.080 --> 0:37:51.839 hold on, I'm not part of the ten thousand dollar crew. 0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:55.000 I'm writing the fucking souls and ship like, what the 0:37:55.040 --> 0:37:58.960 fund is the ten thousand? No? No, So he started 0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:01.600 like IRV and not picking the phone up in all 0:38:01.640 --> 0:38:05.120 this others, and I'm like, no, I got the bust moves. 0:38:05.200 --> 0:38:07.320 I'm not that how you wanna get meet ten thousand. 0:38:07.800 --> 0:38:10.719 I'm writing the songs or write niggas versus and you're 0:38:10.719 --> 0:38:13.080 giving the niggas who don't write rhymes or anything like 0:38:13.200 --> 0:38:15.480 that the same amount. This math is not right for me, 0:38:16.400 --> 0:38:18.400 So I end up just started doing my own thing. 0:38:18.440 --> 0:38:21.279 I have to kurt that situation. So where did y'all 0:38:21.360 --> 0:38:27.759 go wrong? Then? That I'm seeing? So me and Mace 0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:29.880 Mason do a lot, a lot of little ship that 0:38:31.719 --> 0:38:34.960 that I don't really always gotta be talked about, you 0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:36.960 know what I'm saying. But he'll do little ship like 0:38:37.680 --> 0:38:41.359 call me randomly and be like, yo, meeting. We speak 0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:43.960 a couple of years and he'll be like, YO, meet 0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:47.400 me here. I'll be like, I bet. I give an example. 0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:49.680 This one example, he calls me out the blue one 0:38:49.760 --> 0:38:54.520 day randomly. This is on tape, my man tape. He's like, YO, 0:38:54.640 --> 0:38:57.040 meet me or two five. I ain spet him a 0:38:57.040 --> 0:39:00.719 couple of years. I like, I bet this probably two 0:39:00.840 --> 0:39:05.439 thousand eight, probably two thousand and eight years or something 0:39:05.480 --> 0:39:07.759 like that. You like, meet me on her twin fifth 0:39:07.800 --> 0:39:09.640 from like bad I meet him. We talk. He's like, 0:39:09.719 --> 0:39:13.600 y'all gotta go to funk Flex car show. Let's go together. 0:39:14.200 --> 0:39:17.200 I'm like, all right, cool, I gotta do something. He's like, 0:39:17.200 --> 0:39:20.520 I gotta do something too. He tells me, you'll meet 0:39:20.560 --> 0:39:24.520 me on her forty ninety by the gas stations. All right, cool, 0:39:26.320 --> 0:39:29.759 go over there. He don't pick the phone up, called 0:39:29.840 --> 0:39:32.280 me back. Oh I'm bugging. I'm boy River Park towers. 0:39:32.360 --> 0:39:35.640 All right, Cool? I go over there. Yeah, yeah, he 0:39:35.719 --> 0:39:38.560 don't because consoles in West sester Side. He don't pick up. 0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:41.480 So now me, howey, it's a few other nigs be like, 0:39:41.800 --> 0:39:44.080 it's this niga doing this again. So we go to 0:39:44.160 --> 0:39:46.200 the car show, like let's see if the cars he did. 0:39:46.239 --> 0:39:50.520 He's like, oh, ship, y'all, what y'all doing here? Y'all good? 0:39:50.680 --> 0:39:52.480 This nothing? And so me like, yeah, why you gottas 0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:55.480 running around the city and ship? He like, come on, 0:39:55.640 --> 0:39:58.160 I know y'all not bugging over that. And I'm like, yea, 0:39:58.320 --> 0:40:03.759 all y'at do that. You don't fucking me. But that's 0:40:03.880 --> 0:40:06.280 it's a bunch of that. It's like if a nigga 0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:09.279 keeps talking you on your side a honey, times you're 0:40:09.280 --> 0:40:12.360 just gonna slap them. So that it's that ship happens 0:40:12.400 --> 0:40:14.959 a million times. That little story right there. I can't 0:40:15.000 --> 0:40:18.279 even tell you how many different times that happens. And 0:40:18.400 --> 0:40:20.520 just get to the like like like I said, like 0:40:20.600 --> 0:40:23.520 we do our research and where the artists come. We 0:40:23.640 --> 0:40:26.719 listen to the music. And when I'm listening to music, 0:40:26.800 --> 0:40:29.000 it's even on Welcome to New York City is like 0:40:30.400 --> 0:40:32.960 you said, I'm gonna give what you said, Uh May Scott, 0:40:33.120 --> 0:40:36.600 he ran to Atlanta, So I can tell us like 0:40:36.719 --> 0:40:39.160 something that was it the Horse and Carriage video because 0:40:39.480 --> 0:40:40.879 you know what, I was in the Horse and Carriage video. 0:40:41.840 --> 0:40:44.000 It's crazy. Fifty cent told me he's in the water too. 0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:48.160 Birds said he's in the in the video in the water. 0:40:48.760 --> 0:40:57.120 Bird says a lot of modees in that video. Therson 0:40:57.160 --> 0:40:59.959 Carriage video show. I'm talk about you cheated me in basket. 0:41:00.000 --> 0:41:03.000 We've been talking about that later. But um, definitely, definitely 0:41:03.040 --> 0:41:05.080 these all the niggas turned different. Like once it was 0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:09.480 time of wait basketball, they put on goggles coming out 0:41:11.040 --> 0:41:13.400 blow tried it out of nowhere, but get bat of 0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:17.719 that later. But so's that like a shot to your face, 0:41:17.840 --> 0:41:22.640 like when you know y'all boys right, And you know 0:41:22.680 --> 0:41:24.239 I had to get learned that lesson to where a 0:41:24.280 --> 0:41:26.160 person said, you know what, you gotta pay me, like 0:41:27.040 --> 0:41:29.200 like you know what I'm saying, we're coming up? And 0:41:29.360 --> 0:41:31.400 what was that? Was that a lesson? Like what what? 0:41:32.040 --> 0:41:34.160 Because I guess that was the rumor that he wanted 0:41:34.160 --> 0:41:36.000 to be paid or something and he said it on 0:41:36.160 --> 0:41:38.680 that day. That's the reason why he didn't show up. No, 0:41:38.840 --> 0:41:40.960 I think I wasn't tripping off that under number was 0:41:41.040 --> 0:41:42.840 more mad about it, you know, because they felt they 0:41:43.040 --> 0:41:45.880 other business they did with Mason everything else and so 0:41:46.000 --> 0:41:48.160 on and so forth, that Mace wanted Bread to do 0:41:48.239 --> 0:41:51.240 another song on my album. I didn't get really triple 0:41:51.280 --> 0:41:52.800 off that they undt. I was trying to plant that 0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:54.640 my head, like how your man charging you? How they 0:41:54.760 --> 0:41:57.080 stand the third And I'm sitting there like I ain't 0:41:57.120 --> 0:41:59.440 tripping because I'm me. You know, I would have been 0:41:59.480 --> 0:42:01.040 doping for his there, but I knew what I was 0:42:01.160 --> 0:42:03.719 destined to do, so I wasn't tripping. But you know 0:42:04.400 --> 0:42:06.920 that was more in Jacob York being mad about that 0:42:07.040 --> 0:42:10.320 than I was. I wasn't. But you didn't feel nothing 0:42:10.400 --> 0:42:12.040 like because you know, I mean, you could have showed up, 0:42:12.080 --> 0:42:13.879 but I wasn't gonna crowd. But I turned out good. 0:42:14.200 --> 0:42:16.680 You know, it turned out real good. But I I'm 0:42:16.719 --> 0:42:19.319 more upset. Well, I was more upset over the ship. 0:42:19.400 --> 0:42:24.080 I just told you. Yeah, like yeah, like yeah, the 0:42:24.200 --> 0:42:26.000 music like my nigga because you know, at the end 0:42:26.000 --> 0:42:28.640 of the day, Mace, but I tell the nigger's two 0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:32.560 and I don't really hold accountable like fastest right, you 0:42:32.680 --> 0:42:35.879 know a nigger right now, definitely right there. Let's say 0:42:35.880 --> 0:42:38.720 they're thirty five years old. If you give a nigga 0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:41.160 two hundred thousand right now just is nigga you know 0:42:41.239 --> 0:42:43.440 on the hud or whatever. They might lose their mind 0:42:43.480 --> 0:42:45.200 because they never had that much money at one time. 0:42:45.360 --> 0:42:48.880 Like I know a nigger now there's thirty three skim 0:42:49.000 --> 0:42:56.239 hut one time, he's gonna go crazy smoking cigarettes exactly that. 0:42:56.560 --> 0:42:59.959 So Mace was twenty two years old, triple platinum, probably 0:43:00.239 --> 0:43:04.680 ten million dollars, and still trying to be in the hood, 0:43:04.840 --> 0:43:07.479 like you know that ship you look back on because 0:43:07.480 --> 0:43:09.160 you know me. You know you're year older than me. 0:43:09.239 --> 0:43:10.640 But at that point you'd be like, yo, why are 0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:12.799 you doing this? While you're doing that, You're like, nigged lord, 0:43:12.840 --> 0:43:16.279 you might lose your mind with ten million dollars three 0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:19.040 years old. You get what I'm saying. You ever felt 0:43:19.080 --> 0:43:20.920 you you went Hollywood like I ain't got a lot 0:43:21.040 --> 0:43:22.680 ninety eight, I might have went to far. Did I 0:43:22.760 --> 0:43:24.960 ever feel like I want? Yeah, like I ain't gonna 0:43:25.120 --> 0:43:27.160 like when I hit flatting, I didn't know how to do. 0:43:27.320 --> 0:43:31.080 I was with two. I felt I was Hollywood before 0:43:31.080 --> 0:43:35.440 I was anybody saying, like my com from that say 0:43:35.760 --> 0:43:38.279 go up, I wake up this morning. I talked to 0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:40.279 myself in a mirathon ten minutes where I leave my 0:43:40.360 --> 0:43:49.359 house and telling myself, I'm that nigga. Me my ship, 0:43:50.040 --> 0:43:51.960 nigga walk in on me, like Yo, what's going on? 0:43:52.080 --> 0:43:58.239 I'm like, Yo, do that ship? You know what I'm saying. 0:43:58.239 --> 0:44:01.520 I practice out with my how walk like I walk 0:44:01.560 --> 0:44:03.840 on the treadmill, practice, I walk up on the block 0:44:05.600 --> 0:44:08.040 nigga because I feel I'm that nigga, you know what 0:44:08.080 --> 0:44:10.960 I'm saying. So I ain't really feel no way about 0:44:11.000 --> 0:44:12.840 nothing that ship. But I never I felt I was 0:44:12.920 --> 0:44:14.960 Hollywood before I was Hollywood and I have a dollar 0:44:15.040 --> 0:44:16.920 but you know what I mean, Do I have Hollywood 0:44:16.920 --> 0:44:18.759 with my niggas? No? No, I mean did you ever 0:44:18.920 --> 0:44:21.759 like you know, Um, I had to be brought down, 0:44:21.920 --> 0:44:23.719 like you know what I'm saying, Like, you know, just 0:44:23.840 --> 0:44:26.360 sometimes just being a man in the world and just realizing, 0:44:26.440 --> 0:44:28.279 like you know what this is, just this is just 0:44:28.719 --> 0:44:30.879 famous like that, and I had to like you ain't 0:44:30.920 --> 0:44:41.959 never have had that problem, humble, Yeah, nor haven't because 0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:45.600 it's just like yo, because you know what, like for instance, right, 0:44:46.400 --> 0:44:50.319 certain niggas they gotta wear jewelry every day or whatever. 0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:52.440 You know, if it's something to do, I'm gonna get flyer. 0:44:52.520 --> 0:44:54.359 I'm gonna step up. I'm gonna show you I dressed 0:44:54.400 --> 0:44:56.719 better than you, but I'm gonna show you my swag better. 0:44:56.760 --> 0:44:59.160 I'm sure you can't compete, you know what I'm saying. 0:44:59.200 --> 0:45:01.120 If I need to do. But I'm going to this store, 0:45:01.360 --> 0:45:03.479 I'm gonna put on a regular T shirt. Might gotta 0:45:04.640 --> 0:45:07.719 holding it from my ashes or anything else. And I'm 0:45:07.760 --> 0:45:09.399 still gonna talk to you how I want to talk 0:45:09.440 --> 0:45:11.239 to you, because I don't feel I need none of 0:45:11.320 --> 0:45:13.640 this ship to be the person I am. You get 0:45:13.680 --> 0:45:16.520 what I'm saying. But when it's time to show up 0:45:16.520 --> 0:45:19.239 and show out, wonder all that too. But that's just 0:45:19.400 --> 0:45:23.080 my attitude. I come from my harsh neighborhood. Man, you 0:45:23.120 --> 0:45:24.680 know what I'm saying. And when I say hard, I'm 0:45:24.680 --> 0:45:28.439 talking about the joke harsh. It's like they joke real harsh, 0:45:28.560 --> 0:45:31.359 like the jokes and ship. You may feel like it's 0:45:31.400 --> 0:45:34.200 not a joke, you know what I'm saying, Like it's real, 0:45:34.719 --> 0:45:37.440 like like Big Alt two, he's a funny nigger, that's 0:45:37.520 --> 0:45:39.760 my man. And I'll be like, yo, this, these jokes 0:45:39.800 --> 0:45:42.520 are not funny if they just somebody else. You know 0:45:42.560 --> 0:45:45.960 what I'm saying. I knew, you know, give reason we outside, 0:45:46.160 --> 0:45:49.760 somebody knew how the ship back on and they arguing 0:45:49.800 --> 0:45:52.040 with somebody else that I know, And my man was like, yo, 0:45:52.239 --> 0:45:55.640 change your ship back. You stick in the middle of 0:45:55.680 --> 0:46:00.480 an argument. But it was cool injury like someone that 0:46:02.040 --> 0:46:11.080 he got stabbed up ship mad metically and he's outside talking, 0:46:11.160 --> 0:46:14.120 et cetera. But nigga snapping and nigga just like yore 0:46:14.200 --> 0:46:17.359 changing ship back, you stick like ya. It's a harsh 0:46:17.400 --> 0:46:21.560 thing to say, and they just kept it moving. But 0:46:21.640 --> 0:46:23.440 I used to be like ya, this is this is 0:46:23.560 --> 0:46:26.120 ruw and this is fucked up over here, like the 0:46:26.160 --> 0:46:28.279 way they talked that niggas. You know, you got out 0:46:28.400 --> 0:46:30.279 that shell growing up because you don't even know what 0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:33.520 nigg is gonna talk about. You had a record with 0:46:33.600 --> 0:46:39.200 Wayne Younna suck it or not? Record went crazy, but 0:46:39.560 --> 0:46:42.640 he did. He wasn't at the video. What happened with 0:46:42.719 --> 0:46:46.120 that one. I didn't really shoot a video for that. 0:46:47.400 --> 0:46:51.239 It wasn't half went into that joint. No, that was 0:46:51.440 --> 0:46:53.600 not the only thing I did for a second. A 0:46:53.680 --> 0:46:55.520 matter of fact, I did shoot the video for sucking 0:46:55.600 --> 0:46:58.400 nine went to wet White. Um. I don't remember. But 0:46:58.520 --> 0:47:03.520 the keeping their hunting Um, Bootsy and Webby was on 0:47:03.680 --> 0:47:06.360 that song first. You know what I'm saying, shout to 0:47:06.400 --> 0:47:09.960 Booty and Webby. You know what. Yeah, it was released 0:47:10.000 --> 0:47:12.759 some type of way, but Wayne heard it and you know, 0:47:13.400 --> 0:47:15.960 Top my Squids Asylum, they wanted to put Wayne on it, 0:47:16.719 --> 0:47:18.960 and um, it was a last minute decision before we 0:47:19.600 --> 0:47:21.960 you know, and ended up mastering the album or whatever. 0:47:22.040 --> 0:47:25.040 But the song originally was Bootsy and Webby and they 0:47:25.120 --> 0:47:30.320 was originally on it. But um, you know, Wayne, Wayne 0:47:30.360 --> 0:47:32.279 is a fan and it came out. I don't even 0:47:32.320 --> 0:47:35.560 want to sit here and say how or why, But regardless, 0:47:35.680 --> 0:47:37.320 I'm not big on if you show up to the 0:47:37.440 --> 0:47:39.840 video you did the song, thank you, you know what 0:47:39.880 --> 0:47:42.120 I'm saying. But Wayne, my man. Today I called Wayne 0:47:42.719 --> 0:47:44.600 Wayne one of them niggas just gonna send a record 0:47:44.600 --> 0:47:46.680 back before the sun. You know what I'm saying. You 0:47:46.760 --> 0:47:51.120 worked fast, so definitely, how was it at the time 0:47:52.440 --> 0:47:56.520 we made a song called about About It. Um didn't 0:47:56.719 --> 0:47:58.320 go to New Orleans a lot, so a lot of 0:47:58.360 --> 0:48:01.720 people didn't know how important you was doing about about 0:48:01.719 --> 0:48:04.439 It and remaking that. How was that working with master 0:48:04.520 --> 0:48:06.560 here at that time? It was dope? That was what 0:48:06.719 --> 0:48:09.320 what happened was I was a fan of the South always. 0:48:09.360 --> 0:48:12.680 I went to school in Texas, you know, family in South. 0:48:12.760 --> 0:48:15.440 But not only that, I traveled lived outside of New York. 0:48:15.480 --> 0:48:17.239 I lived in Ohio, I lived in Chicago. And I 0:48:17.280 --> 0:48:19.480 see how big of a fact our artists had, Like 0:48:19.520 --> 0:48:22.000 New York niggas. Our mentality is we the biggest niggers 0:48:22.000 --> 0:48:24.879 in the world. Pause, But when you go out of town, 0:48:24.960 --> 0:48:27.080 niggers don't really care too much about all that New 0:48:27.160 --> 0:48:28.800 York ship. They got their own ship going on. So 0:48:28.840 --> 0:48:32.279 I always respected that being able to travel, and me 0:48:32.400 --> 0:48:34.040 and masr P we end up sitting on the flight 0:48:34.120 --> 0:48:36.120 next to each other and we just talked the whole flight, 0:48:36.920 --> 0:48:38.400 and um, I was like, yeah, I want to remake 0:48:38.440 --> 0:48:41.120 your record. He liked bet and we did it. And 0:48:41.200 --> 0:48:45.360 he owns that master correct for my soul about his 0:48:45.400 --> 0:48:48.319 own Yeah, yeah, he could only do it. He could 0:48:48.360 --> 0:48:51.719 clear Yeah, he cleared it for me. So we did 0:48:51.840 --> 0:48:55.840 the song and it was cool. Jim didn't like it. 0:48:56.719 --> 0:49:00.279 Jim directed the video not just only in light and 0:49:00.440 --> 0:49:02.319 that's he was super cool when we shot the video. 0:49:02.680 --> 0:49:04.239 But I guess when they're doing b ROW, I wasn't 0:49:04.239 --> 0:49:07.200 there for everything. He was screaming on Jim. I guess 0:49:07.200 --> 0:49:09.120 because it was taking time and stupid. I we're four 0:49:09.200 --> 0:49:13.440 hundred million. They got me standing out here, and Jim 0:49:13.520 --> 0:49:17.080 was like, it's hard to work with this guy four 0:49:17.480 --> 0:49:23.800 millions in fitness. That another park on a hund fifty 0:49:23.920 --> 0:49:26.759 first by Joels, but first Amsterdam. And now it's like 0:49:28.239 --> 0:49:30.239 there were so many kids outside, but you know, you 0:49:30.360 --> 0:49:32.680 do the big scene with everybody, so I gotta beat 0:49:32.719 --> 0:49:34.480 it all time. Jim taking them to do little b 0:49:34.719 --> 0:49:36.560 road shots to this, and I guess they took time 0:49:36.640 --> 0:49:39.080 to set the camera and he just kept screaming this 0:49:39.160 --> 0:49:42.000 four hundred millions shot out and niggas just holding him 0:49:42.080 --> 0:49:43.640 up and he got shipped to do in order because 0:49:43.680 --> 0:49:45.640 Jim kept calling me like, Yo, this sniker keeps telling 0:49:45.640 --> 0:49:48.080 me you got four billion and he ain't got time 0:49:48.160 --> 0:49:57.000 for this ship. You say, you said I got four 0:49:57.040 --> 0:49:59.719 on a minute, what do we do? What do you say? 0:50:00.840 --> 0:50:03.600 Stay patient? We need it, you know, we need it. Yeah, 0:50:03.680 --> 0:50:05.840 we need this look. So that's what happened. Who was 0:50:05.840 --> 0:50:07.480 the eldest person that you told you there was a 0:50:07.560 --> 0:50:11.240 fan of you that you was like it was personal study, 0:50:11.520 --> 0:50:15.759 all right, So it's a dope story. Right. So my 0:50:15.880 --> 0:50:18.160 first album, my first album is not even out yet, 0:50:18.560 --> 0:50:23.520 and we're in the airport. It's me and a couple 0:50:23.560 --> 0:50:29.120 of my niggers and Laurd Fishburne walked past, just randomly 0:50:29.239 --> 0:50:32.640 like We're like, oh shit, fucking Laurence Fritshburn. We don't 0:50:32.640 --> 0:50:35.759 have no album, so we like talking to see Laurence Fishburn. 0:50:36.320 --> 0:50:39.439 He's like, yo, man, he loved Lauren Frishburn. No HOMEO. 0:50:39.640 --> 0:50:42.800 So jim is sitting there. Jimmy's like, y'all, I was 0:50:42.880 --> 0:50:46.440 in choice of Russ And if you call him Larry, 0:50:46.560 --> 0:50:49.160 he loses his mind. He don't like to be called Larry. 0:50:50.400 --> 0:50:54.640 So my man is an ask. So he died, I'm 0:50:54.680 --> 0:50:58.200 in Fast Show and got blessed to day. He like, yo, 0:50:58.360 --> 0:51:03.000 Larry just yeah, he looked to be like he looked. 0:51:03.000 --> 0:51:05.759 He's like yo, I said, what's up, Larry? Ship. So 0:51:06.000 --> 0:51:10.320 Laurence Fishburn stops and walks over and says, what you 0:51:10.440 --> 0:51:12.560 just called me? Is that the airport? Yes? Yes? And 0:51:12.640 --> 0:51:14.320 the airport He's like, what did you call me? He's like, 0:51:15.080 --> 0:51:20.600 I said, what's uping Larry? What's was happening? So we're like, yo, 0:51:20.719 --> 0:51:22.759 we fans this stand the third he tuned in us out. 0:51:22.800 --> 0:51:24.960 He's like, yo, why are you calling me like? He said, 0:51:24.960 --> 0:51:27.200 because that ship name. He said, my name is Lawrence. 0:51:28.040 --> 0:51:32.360 He said, your name is Larry. Hilarious. I'll get it. 0:51:33.120 --> 0:51:35.239 Let me tell you this, just this story, so about 0:51:35.320 --> 0:51:38.319 to do research on it. His name was Larry when 0:51:38.360 --> 0:51:41.080 he was young, but then after hire learning he changed 0:51:41.120 --> 0:51:44.600 at the Lawrence I guess Larry's will and niggery and 0:51:44.640 --> 0:51:47.040 then he did learning and he said he want to 0:51:47.080 --> 0:51:50.520 be like proper Black, the Matrix and all this ship. 0:51:50.680 --> 0:51:56.840 So anyway, he like, man, fuck you. He teld my 0:51:56.920 --> 0:51:59.719 men that we like yo, don't listen to him. Jim 0:51:59.760 --> 0:52:03.040 and just did a scene on New York Undercover as 0:52:03.080 --> 0:52:08.759 an extra and he active say, Jim was like an 0:52:08.800 --> 0:52:11.080 extra New York Uncle last side, you know, no album out. 0:52:11.120 --> 0:52:16.640 He's promoting ship. So he walks off. You're like, yo, 0:52:16.719 --> 0:52:18.640 why you do that? Sean like, what's wrong with you? 0:52:18.840 --> 0:52:25.480 Like man funk that your name is Larry. So we're chilling, 0:52:25.600 --> 0:52:30.440 like ten minutes later, this nigga come back. It's sitting 0:52:30.480 --> 0:52:34.000 next to us, be like, yo, man, don't worry about him. 0:52:34.040 --> 0:52:36.560 He now he overre my man is Sean over there 0:52:36.920 --> 0:52:39.880 be like, yo, man, we fished. Jim like, I'm like, 0:52:40.080 --> 0:52:41.520 my man was just on New York going to cover 0:52:41.520 --> 0:52:43.439 if you can help us out with the little active ship, 0:52:43.880 --> 0:52:46.040 need a little kig and all that ship. You're like, 0:52:46.080 --> 0:52:49.160 I'm not helping you all, and be like what's wrong? Man? 0:52:49.280 --> 0:52:53.440 He like you with somebody who keep calling me Larry. 0:52:54.880 --> 0:52:58.720 My man leaned over and say your name is laughing 0:52:58.760 --> 0:53:03.200 and don't ask me again, Lord Fishburn, get up, get out, 0:53:03.680 --> 0:53:05.719 taking his wallet out, put in my men face. What 0:53:05.800 --> 0:53:08.799 does that say? My man is like, I don't care 0:53:08.880 --> 0:53:12.839 what he's say. Your name's Lay. So we're like, yo, 0:53:12.920 --> 0:53:14.920 fuck him. Then I'm about to be a rapper. What 0:53:14.920 --> 0:53:18.520 I'm saying snigger. My man is acting to stand the 0:53:18.640 --> 0:53:23.480 third yo, so the Maura fisherroom. Wow. So he says, yo, 0:53:23.520 --> 0:53:26.399 stop acting me for help. Man. You know what I'm saying, 0:53:26.719 --> 0:53:29.360 funk that I'm not helping y'all. Just think you gotta understand. 0:53:29.480 --> 0:53:33.800 So now Jimmy's basically begging Lord Fishburn. Now I'm like, 0:53:34.960 --> 0:53:39.080 are you fuck you? Get the funk out of here, 0:53:40.440 --> 0:53:43.160 like kissing your ass and man, fuck you matter fact, 0:53:43.160 --> 0:53:46.440 I'm about to swing on you. So Frishburn like you 0:53:46.560 --> 0:53:49.200 backed up. This nigga pulls some gloves out of his 0:53:49.320 --> 0:53:53.200 pocket and put on his gloves. So I'm like, I 0:53:53.320 --> 0:53:54.920 looked at my man team, I'm like, you're about to 0:53:55.000 --> 0:54:00.160 jump this nigga. He just looked and walked off off 0:54:01.680 --> 0:54:04.120 like the like a movie like just walked off into 0:54:04.120 --> 0:54:05.880 the ship. And I'm like, my man showing like you 0:54:06.000 --> 0:54:10.040 an asshole. I said, I got tired of kissing his ass. 0:54:10.120 --> 0:54:12.040 He was like, nah, he was on the verge of 0:54:12.160 --> 0:54:19.479 snuffing me. Man, I'm just gonna fall out, fun up everything, brother, 0:54:21.000 --> 0:54:23.120 I said, I can't take it no more anyway. Fast 0:54:23.200 --> 0:54:27.840 forward to answer your question, my man is driving my 0:54:28.000 --> 0:54:31.080 pink range over one day at hall On like stuff 0:54:31.160 --> 0:54:38.279 like like yeah, so yeah like fish Lawrence like whatever, 0:54:39.480 --> 0:54:41.920 He's like, yeah, camera Pink range over. He's like yes, 0:54:42.080 --> 0:54:45.440 my man, he said, Yo, tell that guy love his music. Man, 0:54:45.520 --> 0:54:47.719 I'm a big fucking fan of camera man. You let 0:54:47.800 --> 0:54:50.239 him know that. And I'm like, Lawrence don't even know that. 0:54:50.280 --> 0:54:54.000 I was listening the airport like fucking six years ago 0:54:54.520 --> 0:54:57.120 that she was going crazy because Nikka called you Larry. 0:54:57.680 --> 0:54:59.640 Now you're a fan of my music, My nigga, Look 0:54:59.719 --> 0:55:03.080 look at that my nigga. So that's a person who 0:55:03.120 --> 0:55:05.759 I would say is a fan who basically shipped on us, 0:55:05.840 --> 0:55:09.480 to us to kick rocks and get the funk out 0:55:09.520 --> 0:55:11.320 of here because my man was going crazy on that. 0:55:11.760 --> 0:55:16.719 Make some noy for that guy, Laurence I was. I 0:55:16.760 --> 0:55:23.920 was scared. Now, I don't call him yea man. You 0:55:23.960 --> 0:55:27.239 don't like Larry, you want to be Laurus. So so 0:55:27.880 --> 0:55:33.239 I imagine growing up being from all from all, being 0:55:33.280 --> 0:55:36.080 from New York City, you had to be fans of 0:55:36.280 --> 0:55:39.520 Jay and not. But at one point you was at 0:55:40.760 --> 0:55:45.040 odds with Jay and Not. I mean, which one you 0:55:45.080 --> 0:55:46.879 want to talk about first? If you if you don't 0:55:46.920 --> 0:55:49.840 matter either. So all right, let's say j J for instance, 0:55:49.840 --> 0:55:52.840 because you were at Rocket Feller and this is you 0:55:53.120 --> 0:55:56.240 leaving Rocket Feller or exiting Rocket Feller. Just these records 0:55:56.280 --> 0:55:59.040 that pop up now. But what happened was I believe 0:56:00.239 --> 0:56:02.800 Dame was gonna make me the president of the Rocket Feller. 0:56:03.239 --> 0:56:05.440 This is his office. That was just that has to 0:56:05.480 --> 0:56:07.680 do with this office he was talking about earlier. No, 0:56:07.840 --> 0:56:12.279 we just house. That wasn't the same time and he 0:56:12.360 --> 0:56:15.520 was the president. It never really came before wishing me 0:56:15.600 --> 0:56:17.719 being a president being an actually president. He wanted to 0:56:17.800 --> 0:56:20.640 make me a president, Okay, and I don't think he 0:56:22.640 --> 0:56:25.239 talked to j about that, you know what I'm saying. 0:56:25.320 --> 0:56:27.600 So like when i ainked some bust it and me 0:56:27.680 --> 0:56:30.040 and Jake Cool were just on the sky Zoom call 0:56:30.280 --> 0:56:32.279 like a week ago. So this just stories. Me and 0:56:32.360 --> 0:56:38.600 Jain't got no problems. We're super cool. So by the way, 0:56:39.440 --> 0:56:45.400 I thought, I'm gonna take it with me. No, no, 0:56:45.480 --> 0:56:51.840 I appreciate it. So. Um, Basically, when I got the 0:56:51.960 --> 0:56:55.120 rocket feller, you know, I tried to ingratiate myself with 0:56:55.239 --> 0:56:57.480 everybody because I don't know what that means. Yeah, I'm 0:56:57.480 --> 0:57:00.120 trying to be cool whatever I'm trying to say. They 0:57:00.200 --> 0:57:07.480 already have something going and trying to be cool with 0:57:07.560 --> 0:57:09.520 everybody because y'all got your own thing, you know what 0:57:09.560 --> 0:57:10.840 I'm saying. I don't want to come in here and 0:57:10.840 --> 0:57:13.279 seem like I'm stepping on toes or whatever. So I'm 0:57:13.320 --> 0:57:16.200 cool with everybody. You know, Hey, this down the third 0:57:16.280 --> 0:57:19.480 and you know Jay Jay is a competitor, you know 0:57:19.520 --> 0:57:23.360 what I'm saying. So me coming there, I don't know 0:57:23.560 --> 0:57:26.560 this was dame situation and say something that he did, 0:57:26.720 --> 0:57:33.040 so you know, um, first thing is happened. I bought 0:57:33.080 --> 0:57:35.040 Kay Slay up there, and I guess I didn't know 0:57:35.160 --> 0:57:38.480 he was mad at Kase Slave because kse Slay musts 0:57:38.520 --> 0:57:41.480 to play Eta at the time, and he was mad 0:57:41.560 --> 0:57:45.280 at now for Ether and Order. Never heard this story. Yeah, yeah, 0:57:45.320 --> 0:57:46.840 I'm telling you. You can tell you what happened. You 0:57:46.920 --> 0:57:54.600 got ask Kate slept. So I wait a minute, run 0:57:54.720 --> 0:57:59.480 case Lay up to baseline. Yeah, okay, this is after 0:58:00.040 --> 0:58:04.720 case Slag. He definitely voted for NAS either, remember this. Yeah, 0:58:04.960 --> 0:58:08.520 so bordom up there because you know we're using case 0:58:08.560 --> 0:58:11.080 Slay the hostid mixtape. So Kay came up there, boom. 0:58:11.360 --> 0:58:14.120 Jay wasn't there. But as I'm leaving, Jay is in 0:58:14.200 --> 0:58:18.800 the lobby of Baseline, So I want k to the elevator, 0:58:20.360 --> 0:58:23.160 and I guess they said Jay and jay Z said 0:58:23.200 --> 0:58:26.560 what's up whatever? So I walked back and he said, Yo, 0:58:26.600 --> 0:58:28.520 you gotta be careful who you're bringing around here. He 0:58:28.600 --> 0:58:30.400 might have just slapped the ship out of Case Slang. 0:58:30.480 --> 0:58:33.520 And I'm like, wait, what's going on, man? And you know, 0:58:33.640 --> 0:58:35.960 I don't even know what's going on. He's like he's like, 0:58:36.560 --> 0:58:39.680 he's like, yo, just saying be careful all right, cool, 0:58:39.760 --> 0:58:41.320 this your house. Ain't that no problem with that? You 0:58:41.320 --> 0:58:45.560 know what I'm saying. It's all good. Cool, we're building 0:58:45.640 --> 0:58:49.360 buzz up. I'm like, yo, Jay in the studio, I'm like, yo, 0:58:49.480 --> 0:58:52.280 we might want to hop on his record. We're building 0:58:52.280 --> 0:58:57.200 the buzz and he'll just look like, okay, that's cute, 0:58:57.280 --> 0:58:59.680 Like he didn't say that, but he's like okay. I'm like, 0:59:00.000 --> 0:59:03.840 ain't cool. Cool. I don't know what's going on, but whatever, 0:59:04.080 --> 0:59:08.800 So um, I start heating up, you know what I'm saying, 0:59:09.760 --> 0:59:14.880 And he like, yo, we seeming you know, you can 0:59:14.920 --> 0:59:17.360 tell us some tension. So one day I come to 0:59:17.400 --> 0:59:19.480 the studio. You're like, yo, it seemed like it's some 0:59:19.560 --> 0:59:23.360 tension in here. Yea, yeah to me, I'm talking. I 0:59:23.400 --> 0:59:25.480 don't know if exact words, but he says something going on. 0:59:26.000 --> 0:59:27.160 I just want to let you know. I see all 0:59:27.240 --> 0:59:30.000 niggers rocking. I ain't got no problem. Were all good, 0:59:30.120 --> 0:59:33.640 you know what I'm saying. So I'm like, bad, um 0:59:33.920 --> 0:59:37.000 just got a song up right now, you know, like, yeah, 0:59:37.080 --> 0:59:39.600 let's just do it now. And he's like, back, so 0:59:39.720 --> 0:59:43.000 we did the song room, So I said, yo, the song. 0:59:43.080 --> 0:59:48.480 He know we might could do the video He like, okay, 0:59:48.600 --> 0:59:52.919 we back to that cool so that that happened, then 0:59:53.920 --> 0:59:56.200 back to all we're saying about I'm starting to do 0:59:56.360 --> 0:59:59.480 bus moves or whatever. Because there was that. There was 0:59:59.600 --> 1:00:01.840 a ja the verse on Old Boy, and you might 1:00:02.120 --> 1:00:06.479 tell you that. So Pete Crap, nobody's fucking Pete Crap, 1:00:06.720 --> 1:00:10.000 Stay Property, nobody, Peddy Crack. I was gonna fun with 1:00:10.040 --> 1:00:16.919 Speedy Crap. He had the song one for Pete Crap. Yeah, 1:00:17.960 --> 1:00:20.320 that was this on myself. I put me in jewels 1:00:20.360 --> 1:00:22.760 on it. Taking the Dame like about the fun, He like, 1:00:22.800 --> 1:00:24.640 he fulfilled you to funk with Stay Property. I'm like, 1:00:25.280 --> 1:00:29.440 why everything I gotta be so philly, this holmness. I 1:00:29.480 --> 1:00:32.240 don't think I heard the story Pete Cracker story. Don't 1:00:32.240 --> 1:00:36.480 even need to drink it's on flat. He told the 1:00:36.520 --> 1:00:39.520 story on VLAG. I already knew how I went anyway, 1:00:39.560 --> 1:00:42.280 But he tells the story. So day in the studio 1:00:42.360 --> 1:00:44.439 he said he got this hot song. You know, because 1:00:44.520 --> 1:00:46.680 he wasn't signing State Property. I was working with him. 1:00:46.720 --> 1:00:49.400 He come to New York or whatever, and I was 1:00:49.440 --> 1:00:51.400 gonna sign him, but Dame was like, I was gonna 1:00:51.440 --> 1:00:53.440 suck up ful Philly and all this ship, and I'm like, 1:00:54.360 --> 1:00:57.080 so Pete was was like, it's a situation with Bothyard's right, 1:00:57.120 --> 1:00:59.880 by the way, Yeah, Dame is right, and you were right. 1:01:00.120 --> 1:01:03.960 This is a situation. But continue. So he's property but 1:01:04.200 --> 1:01:06.960 it's seeming like that, but he's not. So he's like, 1:01:07.000 --> 1:01:09.880 I'm not signing him niggas camp. So we did the song, 1:01:11.360 --> 1:01:14.520 so he played. Pete's playing the song for jay Z 1:01:15.120 --> 1:01:18.280 whoever else in the studio and like I said, Pete, 1:01:18.600 --> 1:01:20.920 Pete crack story is on flack. He talks about a 1:01:20.960 --> 1:01:22.720 couple of interviews. I already knew how it went though, 1:01:22.800 --> 1:01:25.840 but we don't mention the other outlets. Yeah, so he's 1:01:25.880 --> 1:01:29.760 playing sorry about that. So he's especially that they apologize 1:01:30.000 --> 1:01:33.080 a couple of videos. He he a couple of the 1:01:33.160 --> 1:01:35.680 interviews he mentioned this. So he says he's in the 1:01:35.760 --> 1:01:39.960 studio playing it and my verse come on and j say, 1:01:40.040 --> 1:01:44.400 stopping erased that ship and just erased my whole verse. 1:01:45.720 --> 1:01:56.080 So Pete calls me, he like, you're saying the original 1:01:56.240 --> 1:02:02.160 one for Pete? You're on there, would you? Yes, pets 1:02:02.240 --> 1:02:06.120 in the studio actually plays director. No, this is what happened. 1:02:07.240 --> 1:02:09.400 I used to go to Philly. I has Salon and Philly. 1:02:10.080 --> 1:02:16.800 You know what I'm saying. So so one night after 1:02:17.080 --> 1:02:18.800 you know, check on my business and Philly, I go 1:02:18.920 --> 1:02:21.840 to a club, this DJ Koreyak I think his name was, 1:02:22.520 --> 1:02:24.080 and I'm like, in the hole in the wall and 1:02:24.200 --> 1:02:26.320 PT Crack is performing in this hole in the war 1:02:26.360 --> 1:02:28.560 and the whole club is going crazy. So I went 1:02:28.640 --> 1:02:30.920 up to him in Meadow. I'm like, yo, what's up here? 1:02:30.920 --> 1:02:32.880 Like now you know beans just down the third and 1:02:32.960 --> 1:02:35.600 then I funk with everybody. You know, there were those 1:02:35.680 --> 1:02:38.200 with his niggas. So then a week or two later 1:02:38.360 --> 1:02:39.680 I went to I don't know at the time when 1:02:39.760 --> 1:02:42.800 we go to Philly radio station and he's outside the 1:02:42.920 --> 1:02:47.800 radio station. Yeah, he's outside the radio station, and he like, 1:02:48.040 --> 1:02:50.960 chill her, what's up man? I'm like, I thought you 1:02:51.320 --> 1:02:53.640 with state property? Me like, game ain't signing Damon's there. 1:02:53.680 --> 1:02:55.880 He's like, they main't sign me nothing. I'm like, word, 1:02:56.240 --> 1:02:59.160 so that record you there still not send it to me? 1:03:00.080 --> 1:03:01.640 Wasn't sending that some type of way? He gave me 1:03:01.680 --> 1:03:03.920 a CD I think I had, and I did it 1:03:05.040 --> 1:03:06.560 and gave it to him. He came there, used to 1:03:06.640 --> 1:03:08.720 come to New York. So when I did it, Dame. 1:03:08.800 --> 1:03:11.280 It's like, yo, hold on, I said, the man said, 1:03:11.320 --> 1:03:14.920 he's not signing y'all. There's nobody. Well, you know we 1:03:15.240 --> 1:03:16.760 was gonna do this and I was gonna do that, 1:03:16.920 --> 1:03:21.000 and I'm like whatever. So then what happened was Dame said, look, 1:03:21.840 --> 1:03:25.240 I guess beans and nothing's like, how can this was 1:03:25.520 --> 1:03:27.600 pt cracks on me? How Kim and them jumping on 1:03:27.720 --> 1:03:31.080 our record on the Philly record bed, Like, I ain't 1:03:31.080 --> 1:03:33.720 know you wanted to do the record. So Dame come 1:03:33.800 --> 1:03:35.520 to me. I guess it was a problem over that 1:03:35.680 --> 1:03:40.960 or whatever. Dame like, Yo, this is what we're gonna do. 1:03:41.400 --> 1:03:43.960 We're gonna put state property on it and keep you 1:03:44.080 --> 1:03:47.240 on it. We're gonna take you els off. I'm like, now, 1:03:47.400 --> 1:03:49.840 didn't take me off to like, I don't understand what's 1:03:49.880 --> 1:03:51.760 going on? Why this is such a big deal, like 1:03:52.360 --> 1:03:56.200 it was gonna takes off and leave you. And I'm like, nah, man, 1:03:56.520 --> 1:03:58.320 I said, well take me off the record to man 1:03:58.360 --> 1:04:00.440 and ain't no problem. You know what I'm saying. But 1:04:01.480 --> 1:04:03.800 prior to all this video for that song and everything, 1:04:03.960 --> 1:04:06.960 jay Z heard the verse and just eraseing my ship 1:04:07.120 --> 1:04:09.960 to Pete crack erace it or shame whoever was um 1:04:10.280 --> 1:04:14.880 engineering that day. I'm like, what's it's why I'm back 1:04:15.000 --> 1:04:17.320 and energy going on, but we don't give a funk. 1:04:17.560 --> 1:04:19.959 But Cam, I gotta ask because this is very deep. 1:04:20.720 --> 1:04:25.040 Everybody's good, everybody's good. Drink right now, but this is 1:04:25.280 --> 1:04:27.960 this is one facts you know that that happened. You 1:04:28.040 --> 1:04:30.800 know that that if you want, we could pull this interview. 1:04:30.840 --> 1:04:34.240 Pull it up on your phone. We've got people who's 1:04:34.240 --> 1:04:39.800 paid for that. Let's go first. You pull up, pull up, 1:04:39.880 --> 1:04:44.560 Cameron Jewells and Pete crap. It's just called pet ain't 1:04:44.600 --> 1:04:54.520 casting my course for a minute. Ken, Yeah, yeah, but 1:04:54.680 --> 1:04:56.400 you put up, pull up. I don't want to bring it. 1:04:56.400 --> 1:04:59.480 I don't want to. I want to bring Zeke in, 1:04:59.520 --> 1:05:00.680 but I don't want to. You got it, want to 1:05:00.720 --> 1:05:04.280 keep going, you get him all not even be even 1:05:04.400 --> 1:05:09.080 better coming from that. I never heard this story. So 1:05:09.440 --> 1:05:12.200 but I'm saying not the fact that that doesn't exist, 1:05:12.280 --> 1:05:15.800 but the fact that the person that said that Jay 1:05:15.880 --> 1:05:19.840 said to take that verse off. That's really one million percent. 1:05:20.240 --> 1:05:25.680 I wouldn't be on your show making no ship. Yeah yeah, yeah, 1:05:25.800 --> 1:05:27.480 you know what I'm saying. I mean, I know you 1:05:27.560 --> 1:05:30.880 got a huge ordiance ain't on time, you know, Like 1:05:31.000 --> 1:05:33.200 I said, Jay may I have a different way of 1:05:33.320 --> 1:05:35.680 going about it. But this with Pete Crack said, he's 1:05:35.680 --> 1:05:37.120 like because he wanted to give me a copy, but 1:05:37.200 --> 1:05:39.680 already had a copy. I put it on my mixtape. 1:05:40.000 --> 1:05:42.320 So you saying that to say that to bring it 1:05:42.360 --> 1:05:47.200 to old boy, right, So you know, J one Day 1:05:47.680 --> 1:06:00.640 was like, um yeah, J one Day was like, um, y'all, 1:06:00.720 --> 1:06:03.120 did I did a little son for you in the studio. 1:06:04.480 --> 1:06:07.280 I was coming in through, he was walking out, So 1:06:07.400 --> 1:06:10.520 I'm like, then he had son the old Boy And 1:06:10.640 --> 1:06:13.160 I was like, this is old Boys already number one. Yeah, 1:06:13.200 --> 1:06:17.400 it's popping, Yeah, this is popping. Yeah, this is the 1:06:17.560 --> 1:06:21.560 rough draft when old boys already lit right you to 1:06:22.000 --> 1:06:25.200 right right. So I listened to it and I was like, 1:06:26.840 --> 1:06:30.680 erased that ship. She did the ship to me. So 1:06:30.800 --> 1:06:35.880 I was like, I race it. That's how the song 1:06:35.960 --> 1:06:38.520 got a race. You know what, just say something as 1:06:38.560 --> 1:06:45.560 a petty nick. Patty like to take back my clothes, 1:06:45.600 --> 1:06:51.080 likes to buy a bit like taking back bringing up here. 1:06:51.640 --> 1:06:56.840 I'm taking that as a petty nick. Yeah, so there 1:06:56.920 --> 1:07:01.480 is no more level deserved, just right like you literally 1:07:01.760 --> 1:07:04.520 he raised the jay Z but yeah, because he raised 1:07:04.560 --> 1:07:07.240 my verse. You know what I'm saying. You know what 1:07:07.280 --> 1:07:15.240 I'm saying. So let no not that taking out the 1:07:15.280 --> 1:07:18.320 back and put that paint horse power up there? What 1:07:18.400 --> 1:07:23.520 the big horse power. Let's finish the story. So yeah, so, um, 1:07:24.440 --> 1:07:26.800 that's why a racist verse. And I would love PD 1:07:26.880 --> 1:07:28.600 crack picked the phone up, even pick up. No, I 1:07:28.720 --> 1:07:31.520 just text him. Yeah, so we let somebody say something 1:07:31.560 --> 1:07:41.360 about him. No, make a good presentable. That's via right right, 1:07:43.120 --> 1:07:46.760 that would take me somebody. Yeah. So and it's all natural. 1:07:49.280 --> 1:07:55.800 Um so basically, so bust it right one day and 1:07:55.920 --> 1:07:58.160 that's all After the president ship, Like I said, I 1:07:58.200 --> 1:08:01.400 think that's where ship went bad. That not confirming with 1:08:01.760 --> 1:08:03.880 j about Dames saying making me the president. I went 1:08:03.960 --> 1:08:06.200 on Rap City and talked about it. And what I 1:08:06.320 --> 1:08:09.520 said was, you know, Dame, this what Dame told me, 1:08:09.560 --> 1:08:12.720 I'll making you president. We're gonna bring beans along further 1:08:12.920 --> 1:08:14.680 when he get it together, Non learn more about the 1:08:14.720 --> 1:08:17.519 business that ya YadA. So I was repeating with Dame 1:08:17.600 --> 1:08:20.080 told me. So one day I come on basely by myself. 1:08:20.760 --> 1:08:22.800 J I went on vacation or some ship. That's why 1:08:22.880 --> 1:08:25.000 he wasn't around the office. So I walked in the 1:08:25.240 --> 1:08:30.400 studio by myself. It's Jay is beans is bleak and 1:08:30.479 --> 1:08:31.920 you know you're walk in the room and you know 1:08:32.040 --> 1:08:36.240 they were just talking about you. Everybody stopped, so I'll 1:08:36.280 --> 1:08:39.479 just walk in. Music not playing no More and nobody 1:08:39.600 --> 1:08:46.960 talking something like and you by yourself by myself. I'm like, so, 1:08:47.240 --> 1:08:53.000 y'all's like nine. So Nikka being said, Yo, kind of 1:08:53.040 --> 1:08:54.400 talk to you for a minute. We go outside of 1:08:54.400 --> 1:08:56.519 the room. I said, what's up. He's like, yo, bro, 1:08:57.320 --> 1:08:59.280 he said, please don't make me look bad on TV 1:08:59.439 --> 1:09:01.320 No More and Data data. I said, what are you 1:09:01.400 --> 1:09:03.439 talking about? He said, now you told me I don't 1:09:03.439 --> 1:09:05.599 know the business and this that in the third I said, yo, 1:09:06.200 --> 1:09:07.760 my nigga ain't trying to make you look bad. I 1:09:07.880 --> 1:09:10.160 just was repeating with Dames said if you feel away, 1:09:10.520 --> 1:09:12.800 I apologize, But that wasn't my attempt to make you 1:09:12.920 --> 1:09:15.840 look bad. He's like, yeah, please man, because I look crazy. 1:09:15.920 --> 1:09:18.960 So I said, okay, I see what's going on in 1:09:19.080 --> 1:09:21.840 this room. Before I walked in. This is kiming them 1:09:21.880 --> 1:09:24.760 got the office, Kim and him, but moves Kim doing 1:09:24.840 --> 1:09:29.519 this without authorization speaking to Jay and being us company. 1:09:29.720 --> 1:09:31.960 You know you could have you could have guest let 1:09:32.040 --> 1:09:34.280 him know whatever. But Jay didn't really come to the office. 1:09:34.840 --> 1:09:36.599 And that's one thing I say about Jay. No matter 1:09:36.680 --> 1:09:38.840 what we had a problem with everything I had to do, 1:09:38.960 --> 1:09:47.240 I had to get six seven signatures, Big Jay, Dane, Leo, Julian, 1:09:47.520 --> 1:09:50.200 Kevin Lows for six signatures. He always signed off on everything, 1:09:50.280 --> 1:09:52.240 but it was good or bad. He wasn't hating or 1:09:52.880 --> 1:09:57.280 anything I was doing. But that's why I race his verse, 1:09:57.439 --> 1:10:00.519 because you know, that's how he raised my verse. And 1:10:00.600 --> 1:10:04.000 then it just became further and it's just the relationships. 1:10:05.680 --> 1:10:09.599 This is what's what's weird. Because after that, you still 1:10:09.680 --> 1:10:12.040 did New York City. To know that was before that, 1:10:12.160 --> 1:10:14.479 oh that was New City was recorded, befoh, I didn't 1:10:14.479 --> 1:10:19.160 know that. Oh like it like it was levels of 1:10:20.040 --> 1:10:23.479 it was levels of And like I said, I just 1:10:23.560 --> 1:10:25.400 think this j As is a person like you gotta 1:10:25.439 --> 1:10:29.400 earn his respect, but see me personally. And I may 1:10:29.439 --> 1:10:32.120 have came in there with the wrong attitude for not 1:10:32.280 --> 1:10:35.000 to me, but just to him thinking because I you know, 1:10:35.240 --> 1:10:38.000 I knew, I knew Jay Z as far as I've 1:10:38.040 --> 1:10:40.120 been in this house from five sixties State Street, not 1:10:40.280 --> 1:10:44.559 respect everything he did before music career. I remember, um, 1:10:45.080 --> 1:10:46.880 what happened. Now he's trying to tell me, try to 1:10:46.880 --> 1:10:58.640 get you to drink like I'm gonna get drink the 1:10:58.720 --> 1:11:03.640 same holding so because basically I remember jay Z used 1:11:03.680 --> 1:11:05.880 to open up form not even open up. He had 1:11:05.960 --> 1:11:07.519 no deal or nothing. They just had money him and 1:11:07.600 --> 1:11:09.840 Dane was getting money and me and Bleek used to 1:11:09.960 --> 1:11:11.960 ride around with them. No, Jay had no deal. We 1:11:12.040 --> 1:11:15.200 just young niggas. I was Damn young man, Bleak was 1:11:15.360 --> 1:11:18.000 j young nigga, and I remember, you know, they had 1:11:18.080 --> 1:11:21.160 the song Coming of Age and Bleek used to perform 1:11:21.200 --> 1:11:24.240 that with them. My mom going to Philly, me Bleak, 1:11:24.560 --> 1:11:27.280 Jay and Dame just in the in their car and 1:11:27.479 --> 1:11:31.120 m G S three hunting and them niggas opening up 1:11:31.520 --> 1:11:34.080 for red Man not part of me, method Man. Methyd 1:11:34.120 --> 1:11:36.920 Man was on top of the world and Damon Jake 1:11:37.000 --> 1:11:39.000 paid to open up. I think Penn State one of 1:11:39.080 --> 1:11:42.560 them colleges to to open up for them niggas, and 1:11:42.800 --> 1:11:44.400 you know it was dope. It wasn't a lot of 1:11:44.439 --> 1:11:47.439 people in the crowd, nothing, but you know it was 1:11:47.520 --> 1:11:51.560 bugged out. Years later when they had the rock the 1:11:51.600 --> 1:11:54.880 mic to methy Man and red Man was opening up 1:11:55.000 --> 1:11:57.720 for fucking jay Z. They was opening that. I was like, 1:11:57.840 --> 1:12:01.240 that's fucking amazing because I'm but these niggas just paying 1:12:01.800 --> 1:12:03.600 to open up. They have no deal, they ain't have 1:12:03.680 --> 1:12:05.720 nothing they have. Brandon said, let us be the opening that, 1:12:06.000 --> 1:12:08.280 you know what I'm saying. So you know the progression 1:12:08.360 --> 1:12:12.240 of jay Z. I've seen it a lot of it. 1:12:12.400 --> 1:12:13.600 You know, I'm not gonna sit there and say you 1:12:13.680 --> 1:12:16.599 got no Ti ti and or be high or source 1:12:16.720 --> 1:12:19.479 money or jazz at any of them niggas. But you know, 1:12:19.720 --> 1:12:21.519 I felt I was close enough to be like, now 1:12:21.600 --> 1:12:24.160 I've seen you grow, my nigga. So when I got there, 1:12:24.200 --> 1:12:26.240 I thought I may have had that same report from 1:12:26.840 --> 1:12:29.479 what we had the ninety four and ninety five or 1:12:29.520 --> 1:12:31.800 whatever years it was, you know what I'm saying, And 1:12:33.479 --> 1:12:36.519 obviously it wasn't that. It wasn't that same relationship. You 1:12:36.560 --> 1:12:38.160 know what I'm saying, because I tell niggas on the 1:12:38.200 --> 1:12:41.080 time to time, it's a nigger who made me want 1:12:41.120 --> 1:12:43.920 to get money, Like I got kicked out of college, right, 1:12:44.800 --> 1:12:47.760 I ain't have a dollar. And I remember meeting me 1:12:47.840 --> 1:12:50.960 and Dane went to meet jay Z and ty Ty 1:12:51.160 --> 1:12:55.160 and Jackson holds a restaurant in New York, Hamburgers and 1:12:55.200 --> 1:12:57.160 all that. So he went to meet them one day 1:12:58.160 --> 1:13:02.200 and they have some It was with two checks to me, 1:13:02.280 --> 1:13:05.519 and Dame just pulled up eight with them. So I'm like, damn, 1:13:05.520 --> 1:13:08.920 I don't have a dollar I just got Yeah, I 1:13:09.040 --> 1:13:11.920 just got kicked out of college. Yeah, like literally like 1:13:12.040 --> 1:13:14.920 a week after that, and Ty, look, yeah, you know 1:13:15.000 --> 1:13:17.479 he's short, so you're know how old TI tires or whatever, 1:13:18.160 --> 1:13:22.880 and it was time to pay for for the building. 1:13:22.960 --> 1:13:27.880 I'm like this about Dame got me or whatever and 1:13:28.160 --> 1:13:30.720 talk he probably older than me, but I thought he 1:13:30.840 --> 1:13:33.599 was my age and younger. And this nigga pulled out 1:13:33.640 --> 1:13:38.240 a not like this, and I was like, who you fain? 1:13:38.600 --> 1:13:40.439 And I'm like, oh, if nigga is my age like 1:13:40.520 --> 1:13:42.960 this getting this much money, I got to go get 1:13:43.040 --> 1:13:45.240 some money. And he did. Nigga. I swear to guy 1:13:45.360 --> 1:13:47.000 that day. I was like, I'm gonna get money to morrow. 1:13:47.000 --> 1:13:48.560 If I gotta robbing the gotta do whatever. I'm not 1:13:48.600 --> 1:13:53.080 gonna my age pulling out this much money he paid 1:13:53.120 --> 1:13:56.360 for everything. That really motivated me to say I don't 1:13:56.360 --> 1:13:57.920 give a funk more and get some money in that week. 1:13:58.040 --> 1:14:04.920 Later I started getting money for that. Not creaky, creaky 1:14:05.000 --> 1:14:08.280 motherfucker ziggy man, what's going on, dude? We think good 1:14:08.360 --> 1:14:14.720 bro'reving around the circle. Calls in the hurricane, don't you. Yeah, 1:14:14.760 --> 1:14:21.040 he found it. He did this. I'm connected and we 1:14:21.160 --> 1:14:27.439 need to get pt crack on. You say you don't 1:14:27.479 --> 1:14:31.519 want to promote the I think we should get We 1:14:31.560 --> 1:14:36.200 can't use it though. That's not with me. Yeah, but 1:14:36.320 --> 1:14:39.400 that's crazy. I didn't know that story at all. You're 1:14:39.400 --> 1:14:49.559 not dreak ze right now, right now, right now, I'm freaky. Yeah, 1:14:50.040 --> 1:14:54.400 don't leave along drinks. He don't know how to drink 1:14:54.479 --> 1:14:56.240 for one of two days. It's like a three month 1:14:56.320 --> 1:15:00.439 thing that I'm talking about. Word, no, no, not, it's 1:15:00.479 --> 1:15:02.560 not it's not good. Let's not get stuff. Let me 1:15:02.560 --> 1:15:04.360 stuff just me for me. I'm gonna drink for both 1:15:04.360 --> 1:15:07.120 of y'all. I'm reading for both of y'all. We usually 1:15:07.160 --> 1:15:08.800 take shots to this time. I mean, you want take 1:15:08.800 --> 1:15:13.200 a shot together. He called in. He's ready, but he's 1:15:13.240 --> 1:15:14.680 trying to figure out how the phone. This is. This 1:15:14.800 --> 1:15:19.920 is too good talk. Yeah, let us talk. We're trying 1:15:19.920 --> 1:15:21.759 to figure out the FaceTime. He doesn't have a iPhone, 1:15:21.800 --> 1:15:26.400 so so put it on speaking. They know that voice. 1:15:26.560 --> 1:15:28.720 Let's see, let's is it going to going to your 1:15:28.800 --> 1:15:36.920 mic portion? Did you be boss? I didn't even I 1:15:36.960 --> 1:15:39.080 don't even know. I just say no, homo, but I know, 1:15:39.120 --> 1:15:42.160 I don't know if that's politically correct. You know what 1:15:42.200 --> 1:15:45.160 I'm saying about. I didn't invent that. That's my niggas 1:15:45.240 --> 1:15:56.000 from the east Side. Let crack. It's good cat told 1:15:56.000 --> 1:16:02.000 to you yo, yo, this ship. Shoot, how are you 1:16:02.080 --> 1:16:06.720 doing you all right? Yeah? Yeah, right man? No good 1:16:07.560 --> 1:16:10.600 going on? I'm been locking nothing and I miss you 1:16:10.720 --> 1:16:13.280 like a motherfucker force. Man. I love this nigga. I 1:16:13.479 --> 1:16:17.320 love y'all love this nigga. This nigga he has no 1:16:17.760 --> 1:16:21.760 this niggas genuine no filter period, yo. So listen, I'm 1:16:21.840 --> 1:16:25.160 telling the story about how the whole ship started with you. 1:16:25.280 --> 1:16:27.800 A rocket fell and they're like, Kim. They're not saying 1:16:27.840 --> 1:16:30.960 they don't believe me, but they like, are you sure? 1:16:31.560 --> 1:16:33.360 And I was telling them, could you tell them how 1:16:33.439 --> 1:16:38.240 we met? Real quick? Yeah, real brief? You want to 1:16:38.240 --> 1:16:41.920 do anybody now? Yeah? All right to check it. Um. 1:16:42.200 --> 1:16:44.639 It was a DJ named Korey. I can't silly throwing 1:16:44.760 --> 1:16:47.800 like this before I find to anything to throw these drunks. 1:16:47.800 --> 1:16:51.439 They let Nig perform that, and uh can and Korea 1:16:51.720 --> 1:16:53.639 is a real tighten. So Kim would come to fill 1:16:53.680 --> 1:16:55.560 me a lot. How we care about it? All we 1:16:55.640 --> 1:16:58.439 care about I don't know how to get into that bullshit, 1:16:58.479 --> 1:17:01.840 but anyway, how to hear something out there? Right? The 1:17:01.960 --> 1:17:04.439 chick in the headphlines who we always do about that ship? 1:17:05.160 --> 1:17:09.400 So I performed at the joint and Kim was in 1:17:09.479 --> 1:17:12.439 the thud and he heard it the next day. He 1:17:12.560 --> 1:17:14.960 must have got my number from Corey. He called me, 1:17:15.080 --> 1:17:17.559 got rack right? No, what's good? I need a voice 1:17:17.600 --> 1:17:19.280 from the rip. I'm like, oh, Ship, I'm a big 1:17:19.400 --> 1:17:22.679 camera fans my man now, but even before for Full 1:17:23.040 --> 1:17:25.599 three fifty seven and all that, you man a fan 1:17:25.680 --> 1:17:28.920 of hip hop period, So I'm hight. I came on 1:17:29.000 --> 1:17:30.519 the phone. He's like, yo, I want to do that 1:17:30.680 --> 1:17:33.240 song that journe. Did you be saying that mat goes 1:17:33.600 --> 1:17:35.920 the name? I said, that's one for P. D. Craig. 1:17:36.080 --> 1:17:38.479 We could throw it over. What's up? He said, come 1:17:38.560 --> 1:17:42.080 up to New York bringing with you ll Uh, I'm 1:17:42.120 --> 1:17:44.280 gonna meet you there baseline to believe it that a 1:17:44.320 --> 1:17:46.760 matter of fact, I got a head love of that baseline. 1:17:47.640 --> 1:17:49.840 The next day he came in in the middle of 1:17:49.920 --> 1:17:52.719 the night. Then the elves got baby on that drink. 1:17:52.760 --> 1:17:55.519 I come in the next day, the versus his on it. 1:17:56.200 --> 1:17:58.679 I'm in there. I'm in the main room. I'm excited 1:17:59.439 --> 1:18:03.479 me and man uh Jay walk saying I'm playing the 1:18:03.520 --> 1:18:05.880 ship for everybody to walk in because I'm just geeking 1:18:05.880 --> 1:18:08.040 because I got a drinking cam on the ship about 1:18:08.040 --> 1:18:10.120 to go around for me. That's in my head. You're 1:18:10.120 --> 1:18:14.280 any time I Mike Jay walked in. I'm not gonna 1:18:14.360 --> 1:18:17.040 check this ship off. I played. I played my part. 1:18:17.080 --> 1:18:19.160 I come on. I don't know who came on first. 1:18:19.479 --> 1:18:23.120 You gotta come on first. And came was like after me, 1:18:23.720 --> 1:18:26.640 and soon the can verse come on like he just 1:18:26.800 --> 1:18:30.320 liked to stop that ship. He stop it. He's like, Yo, 1:18:30.400 --> 1:18:33.120 delete that ship. I'm gonnoking. I looked up, like, Yo, 1:18:33.320 --> 1:18:36.280 hold on a lot, what the is going on? Yo? 1:18:36.400 --> 1:18:39.080 Delete that ship? Um, you got cracked you on even 1:18:39.360 --> 1:18:41.599 you're doing that drink. Do you do what you gotta 1:18:41.640 --> 1:18:44.360 do your thing? And just walked out the room and ship. 1:18:45.160 --> 1:18:48.840 I'm stuck. I'm sitting there looking crazy. I'm like, God, ship, 1:18:48.920 --> 1:18:52.360 I just had a feature with the nigger can deleted 1:18:52.439 --> 1:18:56.040 my ship. Um I caught. So the next a couple 1:18:56.080 --> 1:18:58.680 of days later, I'm in New York. I'm l a 1:18:59.680 --> 1:19:03.040 oh on can. I got a call from I think 1:19:03.080 --> 1:19:05.080 you to share you Somebody from the office was like, 1:19:05.160 --> 1:19:07.640 yo Pete uh. I said, I'm about to leave. She's like, 1:19:07.760 --> 1:19:09.479 hold up, Kim on the line. You want to talk 1:19:09.520 --> 1:19:11.840 to you, get on the phone with it like you 1:19:12.040 --> 1:19:15.800 crack man, umy man. You know we all funk with you. El. 1:19:16.040 --> 1:19:20.040 Everybody's likes man or freaky everybody and if you want, man, 1:19:20.160 --> 1:19:22.880 you always got a home over here with us over 1:19:23.080 --> 1:19:25.880 the this shet niggas. I said, I appreciate that, man, 1:19:25.960 --> 1:19:29.400 but write this shoot out with these niggas and by 1:19:29.520 --> 1:19:31.400 him telling you like being so Gim went with me 1:19:31.560 --> 1:19:33.360 right there, just keeping the phone in with me like that. 1:19:33.760 --> 1:19:35.280 I just said to keep. I had to tell me 1:19:35.360 --> 1:19:37.960 like yo, Bro, I was in the studio thinking Jay 1:19:38.040 --> 1:19:41.080 to leave at your first I'm thinking the nigga can 1:19:41.160 --> 1:19:43.479 gonna react like on something like I sess ship. And 1:19:43.520 --> 1:19:45.680 he didn't even save him. He just was like, yo, man, 1:19:45.800 --> 1:19:47.640 don't worry about that ship cracked. Just do what you 1:19:47.720 --> 1:19:49.960 gotta do, man, Go get on your flight and go 1:19:50.160 --> 1:19:52.240 kill that ship. Whatever you're doing, man, don't even doing 1:19:52.240 --> 1:19:56.000 any trip. And right before I flew up, he called 1:19:56.040 --> 1:19:58.720 me back and I had a drop. He had to drip, 1:19:58.760 --> 1:20:01.240 and just to drip. He met me somewhere. He pulled 1:20:01.320 --> 1:20:04.400 up and had like the blue uh seven forty five 1:20:04.439 --> 1:20:06.599 and some ship was one of these the husky BIMs 1:20:07.120 --> 1:20:09.040 spread up for me and gave me the TV. I 1:20:09.160 --> 1:20:12.160 had another copy of the ship I got, you know, 1:20:12.240 --> 1:20:14.120 I mean just that that we don't like run. I 1:20:14.160 --> 1:20:15.960 got a copy of this ship. You go right to it. 1:20:16.520 --> 1:20:19.800 I rocked ship the whole way, the whole flame um 1:20:19.920 --> 1:20:24.280 to l A. I get the l A. If you 1:20:24.320 --> 1:20:26.040 want me to go further, that's all you want. You 1:20:26.080 --> 1:20:30.519 want more of that? You can wrap it up with you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:20:31.640 --> 1:20:33.519 because I get the l A. Get the whole more 1:20:33.680 --> 1:20:36.640 like her, more like spooky to me. So what the 1:20:36.720 --> 1:20:40.120 fucker is going on? I think just off the on 1:20:40.240 --> 1:20:43.320 the strip that back was riding for um for Jay, 1:20:43.560 --> 1:20:46.360 and I mean, and that was this man under the circumstances. 1:20:46.680 --> 1:20:49.880 I ain't understand that the issues that Kim and Jay 1:20:50.000 --> 1:20:51.720 had a time, I ain't know. I just was like, 1:20:51.800 --> 1:20:53.519 what the fund was up with these niggas. I didn't 1:20:53.520 --> 1:20:56.360 know because it wasn't really talked about that much, but 1:20:56.479 --> 1:20:59.280 it was going on. So I get to l A. 1:21:00.000 --> 1:21:01.920 I played the CD. I'll painted in the CD the 1:21:02.000 --> 1:21:04.280 whole way. I know all the words that anybody versus 1:21:04.360 --> 1:21:08.439 and anything. I need to l a uh go up 1:21:08.439 --> 1:21:10.960 to the road. I think beings and Leith was playing 1:21:11.040 --> 1:21:14.439 the game in the in the suite. Put it in 1:21:14.520 --> 1:21:18.560 the CD. Mack, get up and you check people and 1:21:18.960 --> 1:21:22.160 breaking ahead and throw it in the trash. So I'm 1:21:22.200 --> 1:21:25.080 looking at was the like, but she was like the 1:21:25.200 --> 1:21:28.880 tighlights on that ship. And that's when I realized, said 1:21:29.080 --> 1:21:35.320 the math, get what you take. I'll tell you what 1:21:35.360 --> 1:21:37.760 you're talking. Okay, all right, crap. We love you, brother. 1:21:39.840 --> 1:21:42.439 I'm about to tax you now. I'm about to text 1:21:42.479 --> 1:21:43.840 you from my number when I get out of here. 1:21:44.280 --> 1:21:47.400 So you got my number where you at? You're a 1:21:47.479 --> 1:21:50.640 Philly right now, I'll call you when I get out 1:21:50.680 --> 1:22:00.680 of here. Y'all the sid he's saying Kim that he wait, wait, wait, 1:22:00.760 --> 1:22:04.960 not only everything I told you, I didn't need to 1:22:05.000 --> 1:22:11.160 break the studio. He went the studio J deleted it, 1:22:12.000 --> 1:22:14.040 but he called to tell me about I had a copy. 1:22:14.120 --> 1:22:15.920 I gave him a copy anyway before he went to 1:22:16.000 --> 1:22:18.320 his flight to elect to go to l A. He 1:22:18.439 --> 1:22:19.920 said he flew all the way in l A to 1:22:20.000 --> 1:22:22.320 me State property when he got this. When he got 1:22:22.400 --> 1:22:26.519 to l A, beans and whoever else from state property 1:22:26.680 --> 1:22:28.200 was in there playing the game. And he's like, yo, 1:22:28.320 --> 1:22:31.800 listening ship I did with Kim and jewels, And when 1:22:31.800 --> 1:22:34.040 he played at being stopped playing the game, injected and 1:22:34.160 --> 1:22:36.479 broke the C D and half and threw it in 1:22:36.560 --> 1:22:44.200 the garbage. That's exactly what he said. He did co me. Well, 1:22:45.240 --> 1:22:48.760 me and you are only record after that was what 1:22:49.200 --> 1:22:54.360 R Kelly and jay Z need you. How then was 1:22:54.360 --> 1:22:57.759 he getting that record? I used to live in Chicago. 1:22:57.880 --> 1:23:02.120 You know I couldn't be ignored in Chicago. Well, well 1:23:02.120 --> 1:23:06.160 I go say, I'm gonna make noise, be like never 1:23:06.240 --> 1:23:09.400 could step on all Kelly toads in Chicago, but they 1:23:09.479 --> 1:23:11.920 knew about us. We're playing it our flag out there, 1:23:12.520 --> 1:23:14.680 like so we all have to do Chicago dips at 1:23:14.760 --> 1:23:17.840 Chicago weekends all that ship. So you want to funk 1:23:17.880 --> 1:23:20.360 with me? And like his uh manage at the time, 1:23:20.479 --> 1:23:23.280 Georgian Regina Daniels, they took me in. They really like 1:23:23.400 --> 1:23:25.920 took a liking to me and ship so they was 1:23:26.000 --> 1:23:31.200 heavy in the city, especially George Daniel. I ain't gonna 1:23:31.200 --> 1:23:33.200 say and tell you all remember I don't even remember, 1:23:33.400 --> 1:23:34.920 you know, I did a few songs were all Kelly. 1:23:35.240 --> 1:23:37.080 Remember we did a video on Cali and all that, 1:23:37.200 --> 1:23:40.040 So that particular time, I'm not sure if Kelly was 1:23:40.120 --> 1:23:43.400 there not, but you know we're still funk around. Pause, 1:23:46.640 --> 1:23:53.240 y'all say no, petty man, have you got a segment 1:23:53.320 --> 1:23:56.000 on the show called quick Time with slam right now? 1:23:56.120 --> 1:23:59.360 Quick time was slam me. You pick one of the right. 1:24:00.240 --> 1:24:02.960 Usually if the person picked both, we take a shot 1:24:03.040 --> 1:24:05.840 for it. But being at y'all, Satan's or something, yes, 1:24:06.000 --> 1:24:09.200 something going down, something going down over there, y'all motherfuckers 1:24:09.200 --> 1:24:12.400 in the church or something in the daytime. So don't worry. 1:24:12.560 --> 1:24:14.880 We're gonna hold y'all. Dad, I'm gonna take with you. 1:24:15.040 --> 1:24:18.719 Ain't got regular rock I'll take the fucking white grade. 1:24:19.120 --> 1:24:21.960 This is terrible. You should you you want, I don't 1:24:21.960 --> 1:24:23.720 got y'a already tear me your story. I'm not bad, 1:24:23.920 --> 1:24:32.519 ain't drinking you even know, but Rocky Tarryaki, I'm not. 1:24:32.760 --> 1:24:39.439 I can't lie to your man for years many alright, cool, 1:24:39.560 --> 1:24:42.680 so alright, cool and tune it comes, make it going on. 1:24:43.680 --> 1:24:47.440 Ain't got the regular I got. I don't think he's 1:24:47.439 --> 1:24:50.080 gonna pick both on this one anyway. The first one 1:24:51.479 --> 1:24:55.680 you're ready to care quick time and slim, what the 1:24:55.840 --> 1:25:03.280 fuck go the other? Surrock? Yeah? Oh yeah, So it's 1:25:03.280 --> 1:25:08.960 gonna be me and you a cool we'll replaced it. 1:25:09.000 --> 1:25:11.560 Come on, you know, put something for some ice in 1:25:11.600 --> 1:25:15.560 this motherfucker. All right, very very grat now's a jay Z. 1:25:23.640 --> 1:25:27.880 I don't know, man, we're gonna make us drink off. 1:25:29.400 --> 1:25:33.519 So if you don't think well, we gotta drink. If 1:25:33.520 --> 1:25:35.439 you say both, we gotta drink. If you say both, 1:25:35.479 --> 1:25:38.439 we gotta drink. Please don't do that, don't do us 1:25:38.520 --> 1:25:41.080 like pick one. I ain't mad at you do both. 1:25:42.960 --> 1:25:44.760 I'm gonna go with jay Z if I got to. 1:25:44.960 --> 1:25:48.679 But it's really hard, it's really he says, that's hard. 1:25:48.720 --> 1:25:51.200 It's hard. It's really hard to pick you know what. 1:25:51.400 --> 1:25:53.559 Let me tell you something, right, y'all can feel to drink. 1:25:53.560 --> 1:25:56.760 I'll tell your story real quick, quick story. Ain't gonna 1:25:56.840 --> 1:25:59.760 drag when I was, when I was, when I was 1:26:00.960 --> 1:26:02.640 trying to get an album out, like I knew ja 1:26:03.040 --> 1:26:04.600 Ja was coming up with Ain't no Nigga and all that, 1:26:05.120 --> 1:26:10.360 and I was at this girl house and uh, I was. 1:26:10.479 --> 1:26:12.680 She was like, Jay is nice, Jayden, I don't think 1:26:12.720 --> 1:26:14.519 at first, I don't even come out. You're like, I 1:26:14.680 --> 1:26:18.400 like jay Z. I'm like better than Nas. She like yeah, 1:26:18.439 --> 1:26:21.519 And I'm like, Na, no, no, no, you're bugging. You're 1:26:21.560 --> 1:26:24.839 bugging you like Nasa is the nigga. Nas, You're bugging. 1:26:25.520 --> 1:26:27.160 She like, Kim, listen when I go to the club, 1:26:27.200 --> 1:26:29.080 I don't want to bring addiction every with me. You 1:26:29.160 --> 1:26:30.360 know what I'm saying. I just want to have a 1:26:30.479 --> 1:26:32.880 party and have a good time. And that's that. I 1:26:32.920 --> 1:26:34.640 don't want to have to think so much. And I 1:26:34.760 --> 1:26:38.000 was like, I kept that in mind for when I 1:26:38.120 --> 1:26:40.400 went forward. I'm like, you know, certain ships you could 1:26:40.439 --> 1:26:43.000 get deep on with certain people, you gotta dumb it 1:26:43.120 --> 1:26:46.720 damn for as well too. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, 1:26:46.800 --> 1:26:50.080 you know what I'm saying. So um, I always kept 1:26:50.120 --> 1:26:52.320 that in mind moving forward when she said that, But 1:26:52.439 --> 1:26:56.360 it's the only reason I would pick jay Z over Nas. 1:26:56.439 --> 1:26:58.760 And like I said, Nas to me, it is a 1:26:58.880 --> 1:27:02.960 supreme lyricist it's just that, you know, I would say, 1:27:03.000 --> 1:27:05.280 if I'm in the club, you could play more in 1:27:05.320 --> 1:27:06.840 the club, you know what I'm saying. But if i'm 1:27:06.920 --> 1:27:09.280 driving thinking, you probably want to listen to Niles more, 1:27:09.720 --> 1:27:11.799 you know what I'm saying. So that's the only reason. 1:27:11.920 --> 1:27:14.840 But it's a trick question, you know what I'm saying. 1:27:15.040 --> 1:27:17.360 Do you consider yourself lyricist? Like when you think about it, 1:27:17.520 --> 1:27:19.320 I could be, you know what I'm saying, But sometimes 1:27:19.360 --> 1:27:21.720 I dumped it down too because it's like coming in 1:27:21.880 --> 1:27:30.679 you you was coming in absolutely okay under Dame Dame Dash, 1:27:31.320 --> 1:27:35.360 Dame Dash. Okay, this is pretty easy, all right, Uh this, 1:27:35.800 --> 1:27:38.360 this is gonna be easy as well. Mace with you else, 1:27:39.720 --> 1:27:42.640 I'm gonna pick you outs. But but you can't. You know, 1:27:42.680 --> 1:27:44.680 I can't take away with Mace did as well, you 1:27:44.720 --> 1:27:48.280 know what I'm saying, but definitely drops thinking. They both 1:27:48.360 --> 1:27:50.960 got to three albums. But I'm always gonna pick you else. 1:27:51.320 --> 1:27:53.280 But you know you don't want to take away with Mace. 1:27:53.720 --> 1:27:56.400 You know, people still funk with him, funk with his music, 1:27:56.520 --> 1:28:01.160 you know, fun with Mason not I probably once a week, 1:28:01.280 --> 1:28:03.760 once for me once a month. Still listen to Um 1:28:04.720 --> 1:28:07.320 been around the World remix. You know what I'm saying. 1:28:07.560 --> 1:28:11.720 I love that saying Okay, this, this is really I 1:28:11.800 --> 1:28:16.599 think we sucked up Biggie or Big Gul. I'm gonna 1:28:16.640 --> 1:28:18.679 go with big El because I knew him more personally 1:28:18.720 --> 1:28:20.080 and I knew what he did. I'm not saying what 1:28:20.160 --> 1:28:22.160 Biggie did for the world. It's kind of like the 1:28:22.320 --> 1:28:24.840 un situation that we just talked about earlier. They was 1:28:24.920 --> 1:28:26.760 close to him and I was close to big Out, 1:28:27.080 --> 1:28:28.960 but I don't think big Al really got the shot 1:28:29.040 --> 1:28:31.439 to heat the fish shot that he deserved. But I'm 1:28:31.520 --> 1:28:34.920 not gonna sit there. And you know, Biggie's definitely like 1:28:36.680 --> 1:28:40.240 a world renowned top MC considered. You know what I'm saying, 1:28:40.760 --> 1:28:43.880 I funking round and say Biggie and go to Lennox 1:28:43.920 --> 1:28:45.600 and get hit over my head for not saying it. 1:28:46.400 --> 1:28:53.640 You Rockefeller, right, he was supposed to know with big 1:28:53.760 --> 1:28:55.880 Al bigged us up. He's like, you know, I want 1:28:55.920 --> 1:28:59.720 to do with cam and and Nori is doing was 1:28:59.760 --> 1:29:02.519 a great yeah. Right. You see that click where Bigger 1:29:02.520 --> 1:29:06.640 Al was like bigging us up was me you I 1:29:06.720 --> 1:29:10.240 think me you DMX like the top three dudes at 1:29:10.280 --> 1:29:13.280 the time, and Bigger it's like right before, I think 1:29:13.320 --> 1:29:14.479 it was one of the best to do it. He 1:29:14.560 --> 1:29:16.320 picked up up like he was like, yeah, I love 1:29:16.360 --> 1:29:18.639 the way that they're doing it. So people were moving on. Okay, 1:29:18.800 --> 1:29:24.759 Lebron and Jordan, Jordan, you're very easy mans um independent 1:29:24.800 --> 1:29:30.320 on major independent. Damn, look at you losing so far. 1:29:30.479 --> 1:29:33.920 I'm dumb, dumb if we were sinking. Yeah, I've been losing. 1:29:33.960 --> 1:29:37.639 I um on the World Times, children in the court, 1:29:38.640 --> 1:29:44.240 children in the corn. Okay, mo or Ace, we gotta 1:29:44.240 --> 1:29:47.000 be politically correctly, so you don't have to be. You 1:29:47.000 --> 1:29:48.680 could be. You can go with with you one. I 1:29:48.840 --> 1:29:56.240 drink more wax. But click on the other day, what 1:29:56.400 --> 1:29:58.320 is what is that? It's clicko, right, it's clicko. But 1:29:58.400 --> 1:30:02.519 it's rich the new like Rose Ship. I'm about to say, 1:30:02.680 --> 1:30:05.040 I'm a funk with the Ace now that it's available. Yes, 1:30:05.080 --> 1:30:07.760 that's right, so we're here. Think they don't have it 1:30:07.840 --> 1:30:11.200 in the store sometimes, right, Yeah, I told this motherfucker 1:30:11.280 --> 1:30:21.320 that you don't know, all right, the ship for listen man, 1:30:21.800 --> 1:30:25.840 when the store it was none, there's none. Okay, this 1:30:25.920 --> 1:30:29.640 should be also easy Miami or l a Miami. I 1:30:29.720 --> 1:30:36.960 knew that. Okay, respect all loyalty, loyalty, Okay, little Camel, 1:30:37.080 --> 1:30:53.759 Foxy Brown, Damn man, dah, that's a tough one. That's tough. 1:30:54.120 --> 1:30:57.280 What is the drink? I would say? Yeah, I must 1:30:57.280 --> 1:31:05.200 say both out back. It's a lot of another shot 1:31:05.240 --> 1:31:12.160 because I think he's gonna through the same on this one, don't. Yeah, 1:31:12.640 --> 1:31:16.160 that's why I use my hand. I thought you wasn't 1:31:16.160 --> 1:31:19.000 say both. I want to say both the jay Z 1:31:19.120 --> 1:31:28.559 and nine too. If I knew we could say both, Chicago, 1:31:28.840 --> 1:31:44.240 Ohio both get me back, man, all right? You know? Yeah, 1:31:44.960 --> 1:31:48.160 slowed up man, Beanie Segal like Jay to kiss Man, 1:31:48.200 --> 1:31:54.680 I'm just gonna drink this one, daw broth. Now, I'm 1:31:54.720 --> 1:31:57.880 gonna go with kiss though, Okay, Yeah, gotta New York 1:31:58.120 --> 1:32:01.640 from New York. Yeah, I think all right, I think 1:32:01.680 --> 1:32:05.559 you're definitively gonna pick this too. No Limit or cash Money. 1:32:07.160 --> 1:32:11.400 That's a tough one. That's tough. That's how Yeah, I'm 1:32:11.400 --> 1:32:14.360 gonna go with both because you know why master p 1:32:15.520 --> 1:32:20.439 both both master Peak of the signed cash Money. You 1:32:20.520 --> 1:32:23.840 know what I'm saying. And I think that when master 1:32:23.960 --> 1:32:28.120 Piece started getting commercial, No Limit picked off picked up 1:32:28.240 --> 1:32:30.080 right where they left. I mean part mean cash Money 1:32:30.120 --> 1:32:32.840 picked up right with no limit left off when they 1:32:32.880 --> 1:32:38.639 started doing a lot of commercial ship shot that alright, 1:32:38.840 --> 1:32:41.760 but P paved the way myself up. I feel like 1:32:41.760 --> 1:32:44.280 you're gonna go vote on this one too. Feel like 1:32:44.360 --> 1:32:47.920 I'm just gonna do the go double the bottom J 1:32:48.160 --> 1:32:50.280 Blades A Kanye, No, I think I think you're gonna 1:32:50.320 --> 1:32:51.599 pick I don't know. I think I know you would 1:32:51.640 --> 1:32:59.360 pick they both. Good man, I'm gonna pick somebody for you. 1:32:59.400 --> 1:33:03.040 I would say Kanye because he got he got more. 1:33:03.120 --> 1:33:06.720 I like, just it to justice defensive. It's very rare 1:33:06.840 --> 1:33:10.000 just playing beats. I don't like every time he plays 1:33:10.040 --> 1:33:11.640 some ship. I think he knows what I want to hear, 1:33:11.720 --> 1:33:14.040 so I don't. I can't even remember the time I 1:33:14.120 --> 1:33:18.599 tell him to skip past a record or he plai yeah. Yeah, 1:33:18.640 --> 1:33:21.600 but I'm telling you for my personal like it. But 1:33:21.800 --> 1:33:24.519 I'm just you know, I'm being not being biased, because 1:33:24.880 --> 1:33:26.800 can you make beach for himself? He make beach for 1:33:26.840 --> 1:33:29.679 other people, wrap over his own fucking beach. I remember 1:33:29.720 --> 1:33:31.280 that's a big thing. When he got the rocket feller 1:33:31.320 --> 1:33:32.880 to be like, you're gonna keep the ship for yourself. 1:33:33.120 --> 1:33:35.439 You know what I'm saying. When like Yo and so 1:33:35.560 --> 1:33:39.920 now he gonna be for yourself. So say, I'm gonna 1:33:39.920 --> 1:33:42.920 say Kanye because he's an artist as well, and it's 1:33:42.920 --> 1:33:45.720 the last one of them both. I'm I do not 1:33:45.840 --> 1:33:48.639 know what you're gonna pick on this one. The locks 1:33:48.680 --> 1:33:56.800 of state property. Uh, I'm gonna say both. I'm gonna say, 1:33:58.840 --> 1:34:02.120 just got locks already. Now you know why, because state property, 1:34:04.160 --> 1:34:07.240 state property locks. Of course, I'm from New York and 1:34:07.479 --> 1:34:10.680 and I love you know Sheic Styles and J Nigus too. 1:34:11.000 --> 1:34:14.719 But you gotta care underestimate the movement that stay property 1:34:14.840 --> 1:34:18.320 not necessarily did a movement to close you know, everything else. 1:34:18.439 --> 1:34:21.519 But they got a lot of a lot of they 1:34:21.640 --> 1:34:27.479 might got more. Uh like clubs shipped in the locks, 1:34:27.680 --> 1:34:30.400 like you know what I'm saying, like that PD crackh 1:34:30.439 --> 1:34:33.080 It dope, like even Free Freeway. Like I remember he 1:34:33.240 --> 1:34:34.920 was looking for a single and he's playing me his 1:34:35.040 --> 1:34:37.599 album and I'm like, you got a single right here? 1:34:38.280 --> 1:34:40.320 Like they just be singing, said Tom Dame m I said, 1:34:40.400 --> 1:34:43.960 make this a single. Um this ship with um Beanie 1:34:44.000 --> 1:34:46.360 and jay Z, like you playing us in the club. 1:34:46.560 --> 1:34:49.920 That's it go crazy, Yo, that's it, nig It's going 1:34:49.960 --> 1:34:52.000 crazy off that record. I think they got more light 1:34:52.560 --> 1:34:54.560 in the club ships, but lots got a bunch of 1:34:54.600 --> 1:34:59.519 ship too. I'm gonna just say both. So Y've been 1:34:59.560 --> 1:35:02.200 fucked up. You to change your mind? Yeah, because we 1:35:02.840 --> 1:35:07.160 took the shot. But man, you know all right, So, um, 1:35:07.240 --> 1:35:10.240 I gotta ask this question straight up because I believe 1:35:10.880 --> 1:35:13.599 Nick Cannon says something to you said something Nick Cannon 1:35:14.280 --> 1:35:16.120 and he was like, you don't tell the family. I'm 1:35:16.200 --> 1:35:19.000 good find the felt like he was trying to say, 1:35:19.080 --> 1:35:24.280 you smashed. I'm not sure. I just gotta ask straight up, right, 1:35:24.439 --> 1:35:28.200 just my friend, all right? And I got mad. You know. 1:35:28.240 --> 1:35:30.360 Another thing is me and Nick. We was sucking around 1:35:30.400 --> 1:35:32.519 on Instagram and going back and forth each try to 1:35:32.560 --> 1:35:35.439 make fun of my pink coat when I'm holding the ship. 1:35:36.040 --> 1:35:39.120 But I put up a clip of Mariah like caressing 1:35:39.200 --> 1:35:41.240 me with it. You know what I'm saying, Like yo, 1:35:45.200 --> 1:35:47.680 But one thing I will say about Nick Cannon and 1:35:48.000 --> 1:35:50.200 he you know, um, we haven't seen each other, but 1:35:50.360 --> 1:35:51.760 he gave me some props on the radio a few 1:35:51.840 --> 1:35:56.200 years ago. That Nigga gets to the bag. That Nigga 1:35:56.240 --> 1:36:00.960 gets to the bag. Yeah, yeah, it gets to the bag. 1:36:01.120 --> 1:36:04.160 He then gets up and hustles and he sucked a 1:36:04.240 --> 1:36:07.840 lot of bad bitches, like y'all carning the canon, Corny 1:36:07.920 --> 1:36:09.360 all that ship you want and it gets to the 1:36:09.400 --> 1:36:16.880 bag bitches and nig it gets to the Turkpin. Yeah, yeah, 1:36:16.920 --> 1:36:21.200 that's what I didn't know. It's a turk Pin. It's 1:36:21.240 --> 1:36:23.680 a Turpin. Is the other ship the turk Pin? That's 1:36:23.720 --> 1:36:27.080 a Turkpence ship where he got like, I gotta don't 1:36:27.439 --> 1:36:31.720 you know what it is that's getting right there. You 1:36:31.800 --> 1:36:33.760 gotta be confident to do that. But so we're the back. 1:36:33.800 --> 1:36:37.519 You definitely didn't smash me right back. Didn't say that 1:36:38.439 --> 1:36:44.640 a lot of people can't come on the table A 1:36:44.680 --> 1:36:54.280 lot of night your single you drink you man. That's 1:36:54.320 --> 1:36:56.439 the one thing they got mad. And I'm not saying 1:36:56.479 --> 1:36:58.519 I did the right guy, but that's the one thing 1:36:58.600 --> 1:37:01.360 they did. They mac mad and nick about going and 1:37:01.520 --> 1:37:07.519 telling everybody you won't kim kar this been tra Marie 1:37:07.560 --> 1:37:10.360 and they're like, yo, chill, bro, you want more bits 1:37:10.439 --> 1:37:20.200 with the fuck chill. I wasn't ready for that. You 1:37:20.320 --> 1:37:26.720 gotta be run and tell everything you ain't gonna get 1:37:26.720 --> 1:37:33.519 the next bit, Oh my god. The neighbor. Yeah yeah, 1:37:33.720 --> 1:37:36.680 but you know, you know it's one thing when you 1:37:36.840 --> 1:37:39.439 bring your own celebrity to the table, and it's another 1:37:39.520 --> 1:37:42.479 thing when I make you famous. You know, I'm gonna 1:37:42.479 --> 1:37:45.120 respect because I want to get to the horse. Um. 1:37:45.600 --> 1:37:48.120 So we talked about j you having the problem with 1:37:48.200 --> 1:37:52.360 Jay and fixing it. Let's get to the nasright, because 1:37:52.360 --> 1:37:55.559 I believe I'm actually in this NAS problem. Like when 1:37:55.640 --> 1:37:58.679 he went at you, he dissed me. At the same 1:37:58.800 --> 1:38:04.840 time this interview happens. He comes out, he goes, this 1:38:05.040 --> 1:38:06.760 is you, this is me. I think this is a 1:38:07.880 --> 1:38:12.040 this is Nelly, this is a step your lyrics. Y. Yeah, 1:38:12.680 --> 1:38:15.559 he went at me and he's the first guy my time, 1:38:15.680 --> 1:38:19.840 my brother. Now's okay, Like you said with James, you 1:38:20.040 --> 1:38:22.640 made seven? How many this rectors are you make in 1:38:22.720 --> 1:38:26.680 a night Christmas? You know, it was like conscious. It 1:38:26.800 --> 1:38:30.000 was a hard decision because Nas, just like you said, 1:38:30.040 --> 1:38:31.960 he just got on the radio start this niggas and 1:38:32.000 --> 1:38:36.120 we're big NAS fans, super big NAS fans, so we like, man, 1:38:36.280 --> 1:38:39.479 what the funk is this about? Like why is this thing? 1:38:39.600 --> 1:38:41.600 But at the same time, we gained a momentum in 1:38:41.680 --> 1:38:46.360 the street to so we just like NAS ain't gonna 1:38:46.400 --> 1:38:48.320 walk in the park like lead like you know, because 1:38:48.360 --> 1:38:50.040 we thought we could rhyme two people like this is 1:38:50.360 --> 1:38:54.320 fucking nas like the best, right, Yeah, this is the 1:38:54.439 --> 1:38:57.120 best rapper ever, you know what I'm saying. So we like, damn, 1:38:57.280 --> 1:38:59.719 what do we do? Do we ignore it? And niggas 1:38:59.800 --> 1:39:02.080 like nine, you can't ignore that ship right now? So 1:39:02.200 --> 1:39:04.920 we're like, but what was his line to you? Because 1:39:04.960 --> 1:39:06.760 he just blew up my line? He said to me, 1:39:07.000 --> 1:39:16.599 I don't remember though, he like he was basically saying, 1:39:16.640 --> 1:39:18.800 how night selling this rack? Playing these whack niggers like 1:39:18.920 --> 1:39:21.960 Cameron and Nelly? He just Nellie and then he told 1:39:21.960 --> 1:39:24.439 me that much. Yeah, he was like, yeah, y'all appear 1:39:24.479 --> 1:39:27.920 playing this garbage you want to bring up. Yeah, it's like, 1:39:28.040 --> 1:39:32.360 y'all nigga is playing this garbage up here, and I'm like, damn, 1:39:32.439 --> 1:39:34.640 what the fund was that about? So normal story is 1:39:34.720 --> 1:39:36.360 we have to think and we're like, damn, if we're 1:39:36.400 --> 1:39:44.920 gonna respects, right, you just win that jay Z. This 1:39:45.120 --> 1:39:51.719 is arguably the best guy, or not to what I'm saying. 1:39:51.800 --> 1:39:54.439 That's what I'm saying. What the there's nothing to you 1:39:54.560 --> 1:39:57.120 but everything I'm telling you, right, And that's why it's 1:39:57.120 --> 1:39:59.400 good to have this cover everything you're telling me, I'm 1:39:59.400 --> 1:40:02.080 telling your or the questions you're asking are good because 1:40:02.560 --> 1:40:04.720 in all these stories we're talking about, did I just 1:40:04.800 --> 1:40:08.599 start anything? Did I just randomly come out of nowhere 1:40:08.640 --> 1:40:12.439 and just be this? And not or until this ped 1:40:12.560 --> 1:40:16.880 crack story we I speaking of as an outside looking in, 1:40:17.760 --> 1:40:22.120 we thought that I was wilding. It's really like like 1:40:23.240 --> 1:40:26.000 Dame was like trying to break up. Break up like 1:40:26.120 --> 1:40:28.840 one of the questions that you know, we always do 1:40:28.920 --> 1:40:30.960 this before we do a drink, chance, well, I give 1:40:31.000 --> 1:40:33.240 somebody a clue. When you had to give somebody the clue. 1:40:33.240 --> 1:40:36.360 I didn't want to say I I can't, but everybody's like, yo, 1:40:37.040 --> 1:40:40.759 ask Camps straight up, does he think he's the reason 1:40:40.960 --> 1:40:44.640 Dame Dash and jay Z broke up? Like, no, I 1:40:44.760 --> 1:40:46.920 know the real reason? And then't I mean, they've got 1:40:46.960 --> 1:40:49.679 nothing to me from now? Started looking in it looks 1:40:49.680 --> 1:40:52.760 good and I don't want to say because, um, well 1:40:52.840 --> 1:40:54.640 they don't give a funk. You know, I don't think 1:40:54.680 --> 1:40:57.640 none of them giving my opinion. Yeah, my point my 1:40:57.960 --> 1:41:01.120 opinion is this. It started and they didn't get Jay's 1:41:01.360 --> 1:41:05.040 opinion or input on trying to make me the president. 1:41:05.400 --> 1:41:08.400 He started shining away. Then from what Dames says, I 1:41:08.439 --> 1:41:09.960 don't you know that sudden you have to ask jay 1:41:10.040 --> 1:41:12.439 Z is that he got to a point where he 1:41:12.479 --> 1:41:14.720 didn't want to break bread with Biggs no more so, 1:41:15.080 --> 1:41:17.560 Dame says, who didn't want to break bread? Jay Z? 1:41:18.360 --> 1:41:20.040 Like they split? I don't know they split. I don't 1:41:20.040 --> 1:41:22.439 know if it's fifty three three, I don't know if 1:41:22.680 --> 1:41:26.080 jay got sixty. This is Dame's story. This is what 1:41:26.240 --> 1:41:28.240 he's saying. Why everything, like all they don't want to 1:41:28.240 --> 1:41:30.920 break Biggs off no more that. I'm like, I don't 1:41:30.960 --> 1:41:33.960 know after oh boy, this is yet you got the 1:41:34.000 --> 1:41:37.000 cologne over right? You know what I'm saying. But you 1:41:37.120 --> 1:41:40.360 could see jay Z started distance yourself. He'll be around, 1:41:40.600 --> 1:41:43.200 but he'll be you can see it, you know what 1:41:43.240 --> 1:41:45.080 I'm saying, Like you know if nigger come to office 1:41:45.120 --> 1:41:48.479 five days a week, then from because O g Wan 1:41:48.600 --> 1:41:52.400 is with him, who was also another hardlem god w 1:41:52.640 --> 1:41:54.799 my man, Like why are you something come to baseline 1:41:54.800 --> 1:41:57.200 where I want this your house? Like not overstep in 1:41:57.320 --> 1:42:03.360 jay Z, when you liked this this situation because like 1:42:03.439 --> 1:42:06.280 I said, so many people are fans of you, fans 1:42:06.360 --> 1:42:09.360 of this show. That people that that was the direct question. 1:42:09.360 --> 1:42:13.400 That's the most anything you want to talk, that was 1:42:13.479 --> 1:42:17.960 the direct um breakup of it. So I think that's 1:42:18.000 --> 1:42:20.360 something that you have to ask Ja Dame or whoever. 1:42:20.840 --> 1:42:23.720 But me personally, I just think it's like a communication 1:42:24.280 --> 1:42:29.639 and jay Z wasn't not saying respecting, he wasn't digging 1:42:29.720 --> 1:42:34.280 how ship was being ran where he wasn't around. That's 1:42:34.320 --> 1:42:36.160 what I think. And then you know because Jay when 1:42:36.360 --> 1:42:38.400 when I got there, Jay won't coming to office every day, 1:42:38.439 --> 1:42:40.200 you know what I'm saying. And I don't think he 1:42:40.320 --> 1:42:43.240 necessarily like everything that was going on in the office, 1:42:43.400 --> 1:42:46.880 you know, whether it's decisions being made without him being 1:42:47.720 --> 1:42:49.880 talked to about it or anything like that, to where 1:42:49.920 --> 1:42:52.960 he probably was playing an induction on his own before 1:42:53.040 --> 1:42:55.640 it came to light anyway. But there's something you have 1:42:55.720 --> 1:42:59.120 to ask him. Me personally, I think my situation played 1:42:59.120 --> 1:43:01.679 a role year, but not purposely that I did anything. 1:43:02.280 --> 1:43:04.479 I just think I just thinking That's why I said 1:43:04.479 --> 1:43:05.760 I didn't want to go there. I just think that 1:43:05.840 --> 1:43:09.080 we bought too much there to wear to We're like, yea, 1:43:09.200 --> 1:43:12.240 you got state property there, and now I don't want 1:43:12.240 --> 1:43:14.920 to use the word falling in line or bleak there 1:43:15.040 --> 1:43:16.200 and I don't want to like I said, not for 1:43:16.400 --> 1:43:19.720 the life, because they've more considered family. But we came there. 1:43:19.720 --> 1:43:23.080 It's almost like we funk with y'all, but we can't wait. Yeah, 1:43:23.200 --> 1:43:25.559 we can't wait. We don't want to wait for y'all 1:43:25.600 --> 1:43:27.439 to say, Yo, this is going to al right cool, 1:43:27.439 --> 1:43:29.160 I'm gonna go to the niggas y'all funk with and 1:43:29.240 --> 1:43:32.360 bust these moves. But and just down the third and 1:43:32.439 --> 1:43:35.680 then we just got overwhelmed, overwhelmed to where it's like, 1:43:36.200 --> 1:43:38.200 how the fun Like I told you, Sparkses came in 1:43:38.240 --> 1:43:40.439 the office for Philly like I can't get office. I 1:43:40.479 --> 1:43:43.120 remember that. Then he came in one day and then 1:43:43.520 --> 1:43:45.639 Sparks is the funny thing. I liked him to pause. 1:43:45.720 --> 1:43:50.400 That's the guy and state property. Yeah exactly. Yeah, he 1:43:50.560 --> 1:43:57.360 came in one day. Yeah, yeah, Jim pulled the gum out. 1:43:58.360 --> 1:44:00.720 He came there one day because there be rocking, we 1:44:00.800 --> 1:44:03.040 got albums moving on. He just came in there one day. 1:44:05.800 --> 1:44:09.760 Niggas said, yo, he came my office. Last said, kim 1:44:10.680 --> 1:44:14.320 My CD done, we're marketing. Well, I gotta go, I said, 1:44:18.160 --> 1:44:21.880 he said, promotions anything, man, it's done. I said, you 1:44:21.960 --> 1:44:25.960 gotta go talk to the office. You know, he said, 1:44:26.000 --> 1:44:28.559 you ain't talking to nobody because you're just doing whatever 1:44:30.160 --> 1:44:35.000 I said. It may seem like that, but it's a protocol, 1:44:35.160 --> 1:44:37.080 you know what I'm saying, Like when the protocol this 1:44:37.240 --> 1:44:40.240 and just buked off talking to himself or whatever. But 1:44:40.720 --> 1:44:44.559 you know what them Niggas was all waiting for Niggas 1:44:44.640 --> 1:44:46.439 and Rockfall to get the ship together, and I went 1:44:46.479 --> 1:44:48.920 through that already yet entertainment. I went through that an 1:44:48.960 --> 1:44:51.479 epic until I said, I'm not letting that happen again. 1:44:51.560 --> 1:44:53.599 Not nothing bad, but I know who I need to meet, 1:44:53.640 --> 1:44:55.439 who I need to talk to, But the musicals don't 1:44:55.439 --> 1:44:58.680 get done and we're gonna bust the move. So I 1:44:58.760 --> 1:45:01.360 just think it was a lot moving too fast, and 1:45:01.640 --> 1:45:06.719 Niggas wasn't basically letting jay Z know, like like basically, 1:45:06.800 --> 1:45:09.720 for instance, right you run Rocket Fellow Records and you're 1:45:09.760 --> 1:45:13.000 here on TV right that Kim's going to be the president, 1:45:13.120 --> 1:45:15.679 like the fun called me. You know what, I'm saying 1:45:15.760 --> 1:45:18.960 that same thing, like with diplomats, same thing, Like I 1:45:19.120 --> 1:45:21.680 ran not saying random artists like yo, we're gonna make 1:45:21.720 --> 1:45:25.280 it fucking JR. Right at the president at the time, 1:45:25.400 --> 1:45:28.080 like who said that that I didn't say that. If 1:45:28.120 --> 1:45:30.439 it's supposed to be my label, you get what I'm saying. 1:45:30.600 --> 1:45:33.200 So I think it was like a lack of communication, 1:45:34.000 --> 1:45:38.880 you know what. That goddamn that left a lot of 1:45:39.040 --> 1:45:45.120 my shoulders kill me. That make noise for that when 1:45:45.200 --> 1:45:47.720 you said I've mentioned this on drink chains before. When 1:45:47.760 --> 1:45:51.880 you say, and I'm paraphrasing, when the funk we start bouncing, 1:45:51.960 --> 1:45:53.920 when the New York stopped bouncings that what you say 1:45:53.960 --> 1:46:00.360 and not second that's my second album, so get out 1:46:00.360 --> 1:46:03.960 of that. JA. That's definitely was it. Yeah, it seemed 1:46:03.960 --> 1:46:08.400 like it, but yeah, bounced bounced with Okay, I'm not 1:46:08.439 --> 1:46:11.360 gonna say it. It might have been. It might have been. 1:46:11.640 --> 1:46:14.639 I don't know, but I can't recall. That was a haze, 1:46:14.680 --> 1:46:18.680 that was wild. It was a wild time, But you 1:46:18.760 --> 1:46:20.720 weren't thinking that anybody specific at the time when you 1:46:20.800 --> 1:46:25.120 wrote that. I ain't gonna say that I don't remember 1:46:25.320 --> 1:46:27.560 that song came in my nine I might I'm not 1:46:27.600 --> 1:46:30.040 gonna say it wasn't. I'm not saying you know, the 1:46:30.120 --> 1:46:34.080 whole record this and Jay z uh Yeah, So I'm 1:46:34.080 --> 1:46:35.840 not gonna say I I don't remember if I did 1:46:35.880 --> 1:46:37.920 it because I feel like you saw the future of 1:46:37.960 --> 1:46:41.960 New York. New York after that was bouncing. Okay, right, 1:46:42.680 --> 1:46:50.000 I'm not gonna say yes, and I'm gonna take your 1:46:50.000 --> 1:46:56.679 word for it. So moving on fifty fifty was cool 1:46:57.240 --> 1:47:02.920 even just said earlier that horse and Carriage. Fifty told 1:47:03.000 --> 1:47:06.599 you that he was actually in that pool. Right, where 1:47:06.600 --> 1:47:08.760 did you guys go on? I didn't, I didn't see that. 1:47:09.280 --> 1:47:11.960 What happened was, you know, so basically Jim and went 1:47:12.080 --> 1:47:16.000 over the Cotch Records and we started doing a lot 1:47:16.040 --> 1:47:18.519 of business with Cotch Records, and Coach was a label 1:47:18.600 --> 1:47:21.000 that wasn't that popular at the time, you know what 1:47:21.080 --> 1:47:23.400 I'm saying. So fifty started and being we was the 1:47:23.479 --> 1:47:25.479 only biggest artist day at the time, they had a 1:47:25.520 --> 1:47:28.360 bunch of niggas. Wasn't popping. They's like they want to 1:47:28.400 --> 1:47:30.840 go on up a bag. A lot of people called it. 1:47:31.080 --> 1:47:34.280 It wasn't was it land before and then they became 1:47:34.320 --> 1:47:42.160 When I got there in Boston, I didn't even know that. 1:47:42.479 --> 1:47:46.200 But like, so when we got um, well now we 1:47:46.400 --> 1:47:48.360 Jim probably eat that whole deal for himself. He seen 1:47:48.920 --> 1:47:50.880 they didn't want to sign Jim because you said that 1:47:51.000 --> 1:47:53.439 you bumped you out. Yeah, but they don't. I brought 1:47:53.479 --> 1:47:55.200 him too. They didn't want to sign him, but Jim 1:47:55.280 --> 1:47:57.120 wasn't gonna wait and he was. Jim started doing his 1:47:57.240 --> 1:47:59.479 own thing, moving around everywhere. So he came to me, 1:47:59.520 --> 1:48:01.519 He's like yo ho. When to me, I'm like, bad, 1:48:01.920 --> 1:48:04.280 we could get the deal. So cos had a bunch 1:48:04.280 --> 1:48:06.080 of old artis stage ready to go in an old 1:48:06.200 --> 1:48:08.280 bag and pull out all that old money and spend 1:48:08.320 --> 1:48:11.080 it on new talent. And if it coincided at the 1:48:11.160 --> 1:48:13.120 same time we was doing our ship a depth to him, 1:48:13.439 --> 1:48:16.320 it was perfect. So when we started other artists over 1:48:16.360 --> 1:48:19.400 there due to God and I was, you know, artisides 1:48:19.479 --> 1:48:22.599 dealing with so fittings on the rail saying that that's 1:48:22.680 --> 1:48:25.680 the graveyard for rappers. You know. He's like, that's the 1:48:25.760 --> 1:48:29.080 graveyard that gets over there. They go over there to die, 1:48:29.520 --> 1:48:31.120 you know what I'm saying. So we just took a 1:48:31.240 --> 1:48:34.240 fence to it because we're like, who else you talking about? 1:48:34.360 --> 1:48:36.960 Like nobody's been talking to nobody's been talking about Cots 1:48:37.040 --> 1:48:38.560 for us since we know, because I didn't even know 1:48:38.600 --> 1:48:40.439 about him till Jim told me about him. Yeah, but 1:48:40.479 --> 1:48:42.400 they used to be land Speed. That's the reason when 1:48:42.439 --> 1:48:44.200 he was talking, Yeah, I didn't know. You didn't know that. 1:48:44.400 --> 1:48:46.400 I didn't know that. So when he was saying he 1:48:46.479 --> 1:48:50.799 didn't say land speed, he was in Bob Perry office 1:48:51.000 --> 1:48:55.240 or Alan Grumlock. Yeah. So we're just going through it. 1:48:55.320 --> 1:48:57.280 And then I just got on the phone and we 1:48:57.360 --> 1:48:58.800 just went back and forth with it. But I just 1:48:58.880 --> 1:49:01.160 took a fence to cops. Was like out home too, 1:49:01.240 --> 1:49:03.920 as far as death chair and everything else. We took 1:49:04.000 --> 1:49:06.560 cops like that was our crib like we used to 1:49:06.600 --> 1:49:10.200 going there. Wow. Zeke always telling me about how like 1:49:10.800 --> 1:49:14.920 you just calmed down, Zeke. I don't know. I don't 1:49:14.920 --> 1:49:16.920 know what. I don't know what's going on, Zeke. I know, 1:49:17.040 --> 1:49:19.960 I know even twenty five yeall you just you just 1:49:20.080 --> 1:49:21.720 you just heard just chilling. I don't know. I'm like 1:49:21.800 --> 1:49:25.200 getting it like I'm just I'm doing something. Okay, I 1:49:25.320 --> 1:49:30.240 like you old shops like that. That's right in North Carolina? Right, 1:49:30.600 --> 1:49:33.400 did you out did you out did doing your ship? Okay? Yeah, okay, 1:49:33.520 --> 1:49:37.479 So what he was filiciously and I was just saying that. So, 1:49:39.680 --> 1:49:45.000 so fifty goes on the radio you call in um, 1:49:45.400 --> 1:49:49.040 I don't remember, but probably so probably a number he 1:49:49.160 --> 1:49:51.599 was in cots when he was just cos okay, yes, 1:49:51.720 --> 1:49:55.000 I called Daniel and we just started like, yo, why 1:49:55.000 --> 1:49:57.400 are you coming? Because to me, it wasn't coming to cops, 1:49:58.000 --> 1:50:01.519 it was coming at us because who gives the funk 1:50:01.560 --> 1:50:04.680 about Michael Cotch? And I don't respect the Mike cos 1:50:04.840 --> 1:50:08.320 that's my man, or Alan Grumblack or why randomly just 1:50:08.680 --> 1:50:11.479 this them nigger, as if they was land Speed or 1:50:11.520 --> 1:50:14.439 they was whoever else, and why all of a sudden 1:50:14.520 --> 1:50:17.400 when we hear him, it's this them. So that's how 1:50:17.439 --> 1:50:19.400 I took it at the time. How many projects you 1:50:19.520 --> 1:50:23.439 had at that time? At what Cotch? It was Jim, Jim, 1:50:23.640 --> 1:50:26.280 how I was trying to go. They rushed the dealing 1:50:26.360 --> 1:50:28.960 this son and baby Grandma's son. But Duke the God 1:50:29.160 --> 1:50:32.080 was doing all the albums there and his ship turned 1:50:32.120 --> 1:50:34.840 in the compilations of all of us, so he would 1:50:34.880 --> 1:50:36.920 have duel songs, he would have Jim songs, he has 1:50:37.040 --> 1:50:39.439 my songs, he obviously songs, he'll have everything. But we 1:50:39.600 --> 1:50:43.560 was putting instead of the mix tapes. So once we 1:50:43.760 --> 1:50:45.880 was doing stopped doing the mix tapes, you released them. 1:50:45.880 --> 1:50:50.479 Officials would start releasing them at Cotch officially, and that's 1:50:50.479 --> 1:50:52.439 how all our ships and we'll put them under the 1:50:52.479 --> 1:50:54.880 duke the god names so he like hosted tapes, but 1:50:54.960 --> 1:50:57.960 all the mix tapes became money because we was releasing 1:50:58.040 --> 1:51:03.240 them all in Cotch. That was the game at that point, right, yeah, yeah, 1:51:03.360 --> 1:51:09.720 changed the game, goddamn it. You know how plus where 1:51:09.720 --> 1:51:19.880 you are? Yeah yeah, I mean it's some real ship. 1:51:20.080 --> 1:51:22.160 Like I don't know what the pink horse power is, 1:51:22.200 --> 1:51:23.880 but I'm about to take a shot of that. I 1:51:23.960 --> 1:51:26.760 got a case for you if it's don't take a 1:51:26.800 --> 1:51:29.920 shot right now, but I'm home in a second thing. 1:51:30.000 --> 1:51:32.040 I got my time limit. I'm about to say now 1:51:32.160 --> 1:51:35.120 that you know it's all naturals from Africa's straight up 1:51:35.160 --> 1:51:37.640 and ain't no gas. They're supposed or nothing. But we 1:51:37.920 --> 1:51:40.720 didn't introduce pink power at all. So you say it 1:51:40.760 --> 1:51:42.800 from Africa people that's listening, because if we got a 1:51:42.800 --> 1:51:45.640 big audience that listener and that that can't watch this 1:51:45.800 --> 1:51:47.920 right now to do the joke drivers out there. So 1:51:48.040 --> 1:51:52.240 this squab so basically horse powers. It's an all natural 1:51:52.600 --> 1:51:59.599 supplements similar to similar to viagra, tree barks, roots, leaves, 1:51:59.800 --> 1:52:02.639 all made in um I don't want to say Ghana, 1:52:02.680 --> 1:52:05.120 but it's a part of Africa and we bought it 1:52:05.200 --> 1:52:07.280 over here so that you know, if you need a 1:52:07.360 --> 1:52:09.360 little help in the bedroom, you don't have to take 1:52:09.400 --> 1:52:11.400 a gas c shappella. You don't have to take something 1:52:11.479 --> 1:52:14.320 from the pharmacy. You can take something all natural and 1:52:14.400 --> 1:52:16.920 it's really gonna work. But your man was telling you, 1:52:17.160 --> 1:52:19.320 is right, that ship working like fifty minutes. Don't take 1:52:19.360 --> 1:52:21.719 it around nobody that you don't want to be around 1:52:21.760 --> 1:52:24.200 when it's time to take it. How do you know 1:52:24.360 --> 1:52:33.559 about that? You want to take it right now? It's 1:52:33.600 --> 1:52:36.200 not one of them things you can say, is you 1:52:36.280 --> 1:52:38.000 know what I'm saying this and not one of them. Sisters, 1:52:38.000 --> 1:52:39.160 you can be like I'm gonna let it chill in 1:52:39.240 --> 1:52:44.519 my system and stop because what we thought it is 1:52:44.720 --> 1:52:47.080 like tiger balls when you could sit bit. Yeah, and 1:52:47.120 --> 1:52:58.160 you're still chill. You you you knocking it down like yeah, Sisters, 1:52:59.439 --> 1:53:02.760 can't be read with that. No man, Sugar was here, 1:53:02.880 --> 1:53:05.759 you telling me, tell you shake it. He's telling Ecstacy 1:53:05.920 --> 1:53:09.720 right should took this. My man should and told me 1:53:09.760 --> 1:53:11.240 you have to hop out the car because he's in 1:53:11.280 --> 1:53:14.240 his car with his mother and it wasn't right. I 1:53:14.439 --> 1:53:16.479 want to take for the story now I'm just telling 1:53:16.560 --> 1:53:20.920 you that he took it too early and you got 1:53:21.360 --> 1:53:25.120 on your mom's in the cars. Mom. And what I'm 1:53:25.120 --> 1:53:30.200 trying to tell you it ain't mental. It's gonna work. Hearts, 1:53:30.960 --> 1:53:33.320 that's all you know. Power, it ain't about That's what 1:53:33.439 --> 1:53:36.760 t tell man. At this point, the man tell you 1:53:37.160 --> 1:53:41.719 don't take it because you're gonna be like, yeah, take 1:53:41.800 --> 1:53:45.879 that right. You remember the R expels, the blue arxpells. 1:53:46.200 --> 1:53:55.519 They don't remembers. Yeah, I can tell this first, doesn't 1:53:56.120 --> 1:54:01.640 you with we can press after the chill. See you 1:54:01.760 --> 1:54:05.040 got you went a little buff. I would horney go 1:54:05.240 --> 1:54:07.840 weed after the alls. This is no, this is not 1:54:08.000 --> 1:54:10.719 it ya this past that. That's you said when niggers 1:54:10.760 --> 1:54:15.680 using Now it's honey, anybody going honeys honey, Yeah, look 1:54:15.720 --> 1:54:18.880 at some man. Yeah, look at it. Sneak You see 1:54:20.040 --> 1:54:24.439 anybody better? You see his sneakers. Cat, look at Cathlea. 1:54:24.520 --> 1:54:27.040 Look at my cabral, my main cab. They get too 1:54:27.080 --> 1:54:39.440 much money to do with this. Come on again, keeping 1:54:41.280 --> 1:54:47.680 keeping honey. You know what yo, what's your name? Honey? Ordience? 1:54:47.760 --> 1:54:51.560 Somebody appreciate that. Not some girl right now. I was 1:54:51.600 --> 1:54:56.600 gonna say, he killed it's saying me to do that 1:54:57.480 --> 1:55:01.160 what they love They listen straight ships like all the way. 1:55:01.240 --> 1:55:07.000 Ye know he's not gonna get homebo that Eddie Murphy. 1:55:07.080 --> 1:55:12.600 J know, Texas, you kind of made those what is that? 1:55:12.760 --> 1:55:19.640 Baby is that? Babe baby Clark? They collaboration failed. They 1:55:19.760 --> 1:55:21.760 just be clear. You know a lot of these wren 1:55:21.800 --> 1:55:26.640 to do colaboracing baby baby Clark. It didn't work. Just 1:55:26.840 --> 1:55:31.960 continue the one where you're working. Don't you know where 1:55:31.960 --> 1:55:35.320 you're laughing because he like y'all don't even know ye 1:55:40.160 --> 1:55:50.280 that race, that collaboration didn't work. I can't believe this 1:55:50.400 --> 1:55:56.040 is great, This is this is so great, Holy MONI guacamoni, 1:55:56.320 --> 1:56:02.560 okay boom. The only time I was glad like we 1:56:02.680 --> 1:56:06.080 got you know, but the only time I've ever been 1:56:06.200 --> 1:56:08.960 disappointed and you you told me it was disappointed in me. 1:56:09.360 --> 1:56:11.560 Only time I ever was disappointed in you when you 1:56:11.680 --> 1:56:16.680 and Jim was beefing. I didn't understand it. I couldn't. 1:56:16.800 --> 1:56:19.520 I couldn't get it. How is that? How was that 1:56:19.680 --> 1:56:23.520 for you? Like when y'all felt out for to me? No, 1:56:23.960 --> 1:56:26.720 like you know, if you ever look at it, when 1:56:26.760 --> 1:56:28.920 the gym was upset for me for what ever? The 1:56:29.120 --> 1:56:32.160 fifty million times he's been upsetting. I never did gym. 1:56:32.240 --> 1:56:34.520 I never fourth back, I never did a song. I 1:56:34.640 --> 1:56:36.600 never fell into that because that's my brother. I know 1:56:36.720 --> 1:56:39.320 he might be emotional gym, real emotional guy. So you 1:56:39.400 --> 1:56:43.080 ain't never hear no disrecord. You never heard heard I 1:56:43.200 --> 1:56:45.320 played Jim or nothing like that. The only thing I 1:56:45.400 --> 1:56:47.720 ever did was when he went on phone Master Flex 1:56:48.360 --> 1:56:50.160 I was saying that I didn't come to shows or 1:56:50.160 --> 1:56:53.720 anything like that. I did alive, you know, rebuttaling what 1:56:53.840 --> 1:56:57.320 he said. But I've never did gym ever to this day. 1:56:57.400 --> 1:56:59.800 So it may seem like be going through it or 1:56:59.800 --> 1:57:02.720 what ever from his end or whatever, but you can't 1:57:02.760 --> 1:57:06.400 find nothing of me this and gym nowhere. I wouldn't 1:57:06.400 --> 1:57:09.480 never this him because I fall out period. I was 1:57:09.560 --> 1:57:14.520 just like, but but that's my point, so much fall 1:57:14.600 --> 1:57:17.280 out with me. But I know him. I know he's 1:57:17.360 --> 1:57:21.200 upset for the minute, so I don't know, so like, 1:57:22.440 --> 1:57:26.120 I've never really this gym ever. Like I said, I 1:57:26.160 --> 1:57:29.080 did one thing, you know, the correct a few things 1:57:29.160 --> 1:57:31.720 that I thought was wrong when he did the funk 1:57:31.800 --> 1:57:33.960 Flex interview. But I know he was really upset at 1:57:34.000 --> 1:57:36.400 the time, so I was like, let me just clear 1:57:36.400 --> 1:57:39.640 a couple of things up. So but I've never died Gym. 1:57:40.040 --> 1:57:43.200 It's nowhere you can find where I'll be like me 1:57:43.400 --> 1:57:45.680 this and Gym nowhere. So when he's upset, I just 1:57:45.800 --> 1:57:48.280 know he's passionate about what he do. He puts his 1:57:48.720 --> 1:57:50.920 he wears his heart on his sleeve, you know, and 1:57:51.000 --> 1:57:53.720 everything like that. But I already know after a while 1:57:53.840 --> 1:57:55.800 it's going weird down and we're gonna be good again. 1:57:55.880 --> 1:57:59.680 So that's why I never really said, now, you can't 1:57:59.720 --> 1:58:02.400 put end up with me, him, this and them right now. No, No, 1:58:02.480 --> 1:58:05.400 I'm just saying this is discripacy, period, absolutely, because I 1:58:05.520 --> 1:58:09.520 love seeing y'all together so much. And that's that's that's 1:58:09.560 --> 1:58:10.960 what I know from y'all. You know what I'm saying, 1:58:10.960 --> 1:58:12.680 Like I know y'all from the count of the beginning, 1:58:12.760 --> 1:58:17.600 Like I know these stories you spoke about today, and 1:58:18.640 --> 1:58:21.160 and I'm I'm not putting gem in because that's my family, 1:58:21.240 --> 1:58:24.959 yess not. It's no story where I started with nobody. 1:58:26.440 --> 1:58:28.120 I'm glad we got to clad up on your show 1:58:28.240 --> 1:58:31.440 because every time I wanted somebody, you came to me first. 1:58:31.560 --> 1:58:35.360 Well I felt like you did. Yeah, we just did. 1:58:39.400 --> 1:58:41.480 And I was just saying that nobody else was on 1:58:41.640 --> 1:58:45.240 cots to just randomly discotch. It wasn't like mob Deeper 1:58:45.280 --> 1:58:47.200 got there yet or anybody else that got there. We 1:58:47.280 --> 1:58:50.000 used the only ones there. So if it was land 1:58:50.040 --> 1:58:53.120 Speed Up Catch or whoever it was, it was like, 1:58:53.280 --> 1:58:56.440 why dissed them out there? Blue? But what the says 1:58:56.480 --> 1:58:59.840 the graveyard for rappers? The only rappers then except for me. 1:59:00.040 --> 1:59:01.520 It kind of felt like he was picking on Mace 1:59:01.600 --> 1:59:03.800 a little bit, okay, But at the end of the day, 1:59:03.800 --> 1:59:05.520 I just told you, he kept hitting me in my 1:59:05.680 --> 1:59:10.600 ribs like this sixteen different times. Yeah, like I said, 1:59:10.680 --> 1:59:13.000 these stories, because it'd be a hundred of different stories 1:59:13.560 --> 1:59:15.360 I can call the same way we call Pete Crack. 1:59:15.440 --> 1:59:23.120 I called eight. I'm just telling me that ship Pete 1:59:23.160 --> 1:59:26.960 Crack just said it would verbat him for whatever. I'm 1:59:26.960 --> 1:59:28.600 gonna just tell you the facts, mean to tell you 1:59:28.640 --> 1:59:31.720 exactly what happened. So it may seem like I'm picking 1:59:31.800 --> 1:59:35.960 on them. But if somebody keep poking you, somebody keep 1:59:36.040 --> 1:59:39.160 kicking you under the table at dinner. Because he because 1:59:39.240 --> 1:59:41.720 he made this this record, was was surprised when he 1:59:42.240 --> 1:59:45.040 that this record. I was proud of him. Oh ship, 1:59:47.800 --> 1:59:50.200 like that's proud of him. Man. I was like, y'all 1:59:50.280 --> 1:59:54.040 felt like fucking U. To be honest, I felt like 1:59:54.200 --> 2:00:00.800 den Zeland training day when the nigga we pulled the 2:00:00.880 --> 2:00:03.920 gun out and said I'm gonna killing about to kill 2:00:04.040 --> 2:00:20.200 him in the house and trading yeah, like they get 2:00:20.320 --> 2:00:27.120 dropping him, like yeah, yeah, he's a good community. I 2:00:27.160 --> 2:00:29.840 ain't gonna that might have been against its sponsor. I've 2:00:29.840 --> 2:00:41.640 ever heard that. It's funny, it's bro Holy ready, I've 2:00:41.640 --> 2:00:44.400 never been this shock right now. I wasn't ready. I 2:00:44.480 --> 2:00:50.960 wasn't ready, Holy morningly, but putting it all together to 2:00:51.120 --> 2:00:53.560 see even you guys together right now, you know how 2:00:53.680 --> 2:00:56.440 hard it is to have a twenty year relationship in 2:00:56.560 --> 2:01:02.800 this fucking fustiness. Absolutely, so many cools you see from 2:01:02.880 --> 2:01:07.440 twenty years ago. They don't have three of the same 2:01:07.560 --> 2:01:11.840 members for the same members that's around. So me seeing 2:01:11.920 --> 2:01:16.160 y'all brothers together, man, Like I remember doing shows with y'all. U. 2:01:16.560 --> 2:01:19.680 Mike Lady, you said you said something on this other 2:01:19.800 --> 2:01:24.120 guy's uh TV one time, so the guy's platform, you 2:01:24.160 --> 2:01:26.040 know what I'm talking about. I don't say that guy's 2:01:26.080 --> 2:01:30.520 thanks he said it earlier. And you described a show 2:01:30.840 --> 2:01:37.560 with Mike Lady, do you remember the time where oh 2:01:37.640 --> 2:01:41.480 they tried to get that killer. Oh, yes, it's at 2:01:41.480 --> 2:01:44.360 the same time. I think I had went there early 2:01:44.640 --> 2:01:47.840 because this was the ship back in the actually was 2:01:47.960 --> 2:01:50.640 the reason why we went crazy because I went there earlier, 2:01:50.640 --> 2:01:54.000 I got paid earlier. Everyone wanted to go. I remember 2:01:54.040 --> 2:01:56.920 the everyone was the headline of the show, and I 2:01:57.000 --> 2:01:59.280 was like, let's go, earluse. I know these niggas. I 2:01:59.560 --> 2:02:01.120 did a show with these things before. They ain't got 2:02:01.160 --> 2:02:04.760 the bread, so I'm going. I went. I opened up. 2:02:04.760 --> 2:02:07.680 They're like plat and I'm like, I opened up, let's go. 2:02:09.360 --> 2:02:11.560 I didn't show giving my money. And then I went 2:02:11.680 --> 2:02:15.200 and freaky like, yo, where are you going? Said yo, yeah, 2:02:15.200 --> 2:02:17.720 I got paid. He said, wait a minute, we didn't. 2:02:17.760 --> 2:02:21.840 I said, supposed to. And then I didn't know from 2:02:21.880 --> 2:02:24.520 there and I read I saw on the interview that 2:02:24.640 --> 2:02:28.600 you did. He was like, y'all came and it was 2:02:28.720 --> 2:02:33.800 it was they didn't have my money, they have my money. 2:02:34.400 --> 2:02:37.080 And the next thing, you know, they tried some big 2:02:37.240 --> 2:02:44.720 toll six times the niggas came out. It was redgas. Yeah, 2:02:45.600 --> 2:02:50.080 and uh they came out. I guess protecting Mike Lady 2:02:50.080 --> 2:02:51.920 because we're like, give us our money. And then like 2:02:51.960 --> 2:02:53.640 they had a lot of niggers, but they're like forty 2:02:53.720 --> 2:02:58.480 niggas and they surrounded me because I think Jim and 2:02:58.600 --> 2:03:00.960 Black of Dawn on his side beef and like, YO, 2:03:01.080 --> 2:03:03.480 give us our fucking money. And they walked out like oh, 2:03:03.960 --> 2:03:06.480 and then like forty niggers filed them around and they 2:03:06.560 --> 2:03:09.480 surround me like here me beef about your money. And 2:03:09.560 --> 2:03:14.920 then nigger yapped my chain. Word yeah, I did a 2:03:15.000 --> 2:03:17.800 song about him, scored that of a That Alive. It 2:03:17.920 --> 2:03:22.520 turned out crazy, just typing that of a Lot that Alive. 2:03:22.560 --> 2:03:24.840 I told the whole story on that. Wow, I didn't 2:03:24.880 --> 2:03:27.400 know that I on this show good. I ain't at 2:03:27.520 --> 2:03:29.560 I said. I just went and paid the left. So 2:03:30.120 --> 2:03:33.640 they yat my chain and my man what you just think? 2:03:33.680 --> 2:03:37.640 I'm like, I don't know what I know. This turned 2:03:37.680 --> 2:03:44.120 out bad for them. You're not getting but my chain. 2:03:44.280 --> 2:03:48.720 And then my man just came out. I ain't gonna 2:03:48.720 --> 2:03:50.480 say an he's gonna get mad at me anyway. He 2:03:50.640 --> 2:03:54.480 fucking came out popping and pistol whip the nigg who 2:03:54.560 --> 2:03:56.920 took my chain and took his chain and got my 2:03:57.080 --> 2:03:59.440 chain back. And then we left, and then he's like, 2:03:59.560 --> 2:04:02.960 fucking Mike Lighty man, snicker got this going all this 2:04:03.080 --> 2:04:11.240 ship for you actually made a song my only movie, 2:04:12.640 --> 2:04:17.160 but this did some great story. But I didn't know it. 2:04:17.800 --> 2:04:21.400 I didn't know that period til I've seen you describe 2:04:21.440 --> 2:04:23.160 that story. He was like, Yo, because you said, you said, 2:04:23.160 --> 2:04:25.640 you exactly did exactly what you said. You said, I've 2:04:25.640 --> 2:04:30.400 seen Nori and because what happened was I kept telling me, yo, 2:04:31.400 --> 2:04:35.040 you on the tour with everybody hot, they're gonna come late. 2:04:36.200 --> 2:04:39.720 Don't funk with that lationship. You ain't gonna get bad. Like. 2:04:40.040 --> 2:04:42.240 So we were supposed to come at nine. I showed 2:04:42.320 --> 2:04:46.000 up at six like I'm ready. I performed with the 2:04:46.040 --> 2:04:53.040 sixty people where I killed it. Everybody got paid. But 2:04:53.400 --> 2:04:55.560 I'm like, but you know what, it was that thing 2:04:55.680 --> 2:04:58.280 we wanted to the headline, So all of us showed 2:04:58.360 --> 2:05:00.920 up later. So I had to a vantage of being like, 2:05:01.400 --> 2:05:04.200 you know, people showing up late, and you know, a 2:05:04.280 --> 2:05:06.280 certain times we thought it was headlines. But that was 2:05:06.440 --> 2:05:08.400 that was crazy when I heard six and your uh 2:05:08.920 --> 2:05:12.160 and I heard your record to it. So what's your 2:05:12.160 --> 2:05:16.200 favorite ever in hip hop camp? My favorite era? Um? 2:05:19.040 --> 2:05:23.000 I mean it depends on like as a professional or 2:05:23.080 --> 2:05:26.840 just a hip hop fan, you know whatever. Yeah, yeah, 2:05:26.960 --> 2:05:28.600 it's pretty much both. I don't take a shot for 2:05:28.720 --> 2:05:32.560 that too. You pretty much want to get me drunk cameras. 2:05:34.000 --> 2:05:35.720 I was like, I'm like, it's a lot of ship. 2:05:35.800 --> 2:05:38.320 You know. You gotta realize when I was a child, 2:05:38.520 --> 2:05:42.440 you know, eleven, twelve, thirteen years old, You've got people 2:05:42.480 --> 2:05:44.720 who I wanted to be like and dressed like. And 2:05:45.560 --> 2:05:47.640 you know I remember going the Canal Street and get 2:05:47.680 --> 2:05:49.600 a chain because e p m D have a link, 2:05:49.720 --> 2:05:51.840 or about the fisherman had because epm D got a 2:05:51.880 --> 2:05:54.920 fisherman had, or loving Uh you know I used to 2:05:55.000 --> 2:05:57.920 love nice and smooth, you know, smooth being greg nice 2:05:58.040 --> 2:06:03.360 and fucking pop called question you ran daddy? Are you 2:06:03.680 --> 2:06:08.800 and fucking you know, just try to sneak that on 2:06:11.400 --> 2:06:17.000 you on the grat a g Yeah, definitely a f 2:06:17.480 --> 2:06:19.600 I ain't know that, so I thought he was all 2:06:19.680 --> 2:06:26.840 like on space mask, what's the ship? Leave me alone? 2:06:26.840 --> 2:06:34.160 Ain't no spaces my space, No grand daddy got a page. 2:06:35.000 --> 2:06:39.240 But you know I knew a girl named can your 2:06:39.360 --> 2:06:45.480 phone West Virgin Like that made me want to be 2:06:45.560 --> 2:06:49.920 a rapper. Yeah, like that off I heard that baby 2:06:51.760 --> 2:06:56.280 can't Yeah, that's so matter at the more the more 2:06:56.520 --> 2:07:01.400 that's the name of you remember that Jinia mom oh 2:07:02.000 --> 2:07:05.520 early in the which one, it was like it was like, 2:07:05.560 --> 2:07:13.400 I forget what it's called. What happened? Oh yeah? Is 2:07:13.440 --> 2:07:18.360 that not your favorite year your career? Nah? No? Who 2:07:18.480 --> 2:07:22.840 was it? Say? Oh too? Probably? Oh boy? Because I 2:07:22.880 --> 2:07:25.640 got all my niggers on, you know what I'm saying, 2:07:25.880 --> 2:07:29.200 Like everybody had a deal. Like I love your career, 2:07:29.200 --> 2:07:34.320 and I know because I feel like you had horse 2:07:34.400 --> 2:07:38.680 and Carriage when I had Super Thub. I feel like 2:07:39.800 --> 2:07:43.760 I had grimed me when you had I forget what else? 2:07:44.080 --> 2:07:51.560 Like everything and oh boy, and I had Homeboy and 2:07:51.640 --> 2:07:54.120 I felt that was so great. Yeah, you know we 2:07:54.200 --> 2:07:57.800 didn't pay the full tour, remember, yeah, absolutely, but like 2:07:57.920 --> 2:08:00.400 probably oh three, Like just being able to have all 2:08:00.480 --> 2:08:02.680 my niggas or one with a deal, whether they had 2:08:02.680 --> 2:08:05.080 an album out the time or anything like that, it 2:08:05.200 --> 2:08:08.320 was just a that's like a it was some bucket 2:08:08.360 --> 2:08:10.880 ship list to get off me, to get make sure 2:08:12.160 --> 2:08:14.440 Jim out of deal, jewels had to deal like it 2:08:14.600 --> 2:08:18.080 was a sign. Freaky Zeke went to jail, and when 2:08:18.200 --> 2:08:20.760 he went to jail, when he came over from jail. 2:08:21.440 --> 2:08:23.680 It was dope to that car ready for him and 2:08:24.280 --> 2:08:27.120 a crib and corndo and all that ship ready in cash, 2:08:27.200 --> 2:08:29.360 and then he eventually ended up getting Then I get 2:08:29.480 --> 2:08:31.200 when he came from jail, I got him a deal 2:08:31.800 --> 2:08:34.440 and asylum. You know what I'm saying. But everything like 2:08:35.280 --> 2:08:37.440 those are my favorite years when I was able to 2:08:37.520 --> 2:08:39.440 help the crew out. And this is after a board 2:08:39.560 --> 2:08:42.120 is old three oh four he said, oh, three oh three. 2:08:42.160 --> 2:08:44.520 Ye is when the dip mouth came out. Jus came 2:08:44.560 --> 2:08:47.000 out three or oh four, So I felt gil Zeke 2:08:47.120 --> 2:08:48.920 was in jail. He came out like, oh seven, oh 2:08:49.680 --> 2:08:53.760 got MC deal O eight And what a year whenever 2:08:53.800 --> 2:08:55.680 he came out and got him a deal like I 2:08:55.840 --> 2:08:59.440 like that ship two days later. Yeah, I remember I 2:08:59.520 --> 2:09:03.880 got two our question for you. But I remember me 2:09:04.200 --> 2:09:06.640 looking at your face at one point when Cam and 2:09:06.720 --> 2:09:10.640 Jewels was Camon and Jim wasn't seeing uh and me 2:09:10.800 --> 2:09:12.440 just looking at your face. I forget what it was 2:09:12.600 --> 2:09:15.600 through internet was through the internet, and I remember like 2:09:15.840 --> 2:09:18.160 that might have been one of the most stressed times. 2:09:18.240 --> 2:09:22.160 You're like it was, It wasn't. At first. I couldn't 2:09:22.400 --> 2:09:25.960 understand it because we we've been tight before. Wrap like 2:09:26.080 --> 2:09:30.240 this is a cam by sandwich came about Sai and 2:09:30.640 --> 2:09:32.960 that was it came had the sandwich. So we were 2:09:33.080 --> 2:09:35.560 getting to try to get a piece. Cam was spit 2:09:35.680 --> 2:09:38.120 on the sandwich. You know what I'm saying. It was 2:09:38.160 --> 2:09:45.400 like and it didn't matter. You know what I'm saying, 2:09:45.840 --> 2:09:47.160 give us a piece. And he got that way. So 2:09:47.440 --> 2:09:50.400 that's how close we want so far get out of jam. 2:09:50.560 --> 2:09:53.080 Like then you hear this person did this and that 2:09:53.240 --> 2:09:56.240 person to that. But I just couldn't gather what was 2:09:56.320 --> 2:09:58.480 going on because I'm like, ayes, so what he did 2:09:58.560 --> 2:10:01.440 this or whatever whatever they point was of, not what 2:10:01.760 --> 2:10:04.560 in the act with each other. I couldn't believe it. 2:10:04.640 --> 2:10:07.360 But then I've seen it's going on. I think I 2:10:07.520 --> 2:10:08.680 was on. I don't know if I was on that 2:10:08.840 --> 2:10:13.040 I went somewhere with Jim and I'm thinking I'm rectif 2:10:13.200 --> 2:10:15.280 I wanted to rectify the situation because these things I 2:10:15.400 --> 2:10:20.040 loved you, like I'm sorry to cut you off, but 2:10:20.120 --> 2:10:21.920 I want to pick you up. I can tell her 2:10:22.160 --> 2:10:25.120 everybody you would have heard this, everybody. In my opinion, 2:10:25.160 --> 2:10:26.880 I could be wrong. You look at me and say, no, no, 2:10:27.480 --> 2:10:29.040 I know these things is gonna get it back together 2:10:29.360 --> 2:10:31.560 or you could be like but at one point it 2:10:31.720 --> 2:10:35.440 really seemed like ugly. It really seems okay because I 2:10:35.560 --> 2:10:37.200 love both of them, you know what I'm saying, like 2:10:37.440 --> 2:10:39.600 like hands down, you know what I mean when they 2:10:39.640 --> 2:10:41.320 say what you bring me to tell you? But all that, 2:10:41.520 --> 2:10:43.720 like I put my soul out here, you know what 2:10:43.760 --> 2:10:46.040 I mean? It won would be a time if something's 2:10:46.080 --> 2:10:49.040 going on, I'm if it's over, it's over, you know 2:10:49.080 --> 2:10:50.600 what I mean. That's how it ran with you, and 2:10:50.760 --> 2:10:54.120 that's how I still because it was for y'all. It's 2:10:54.160 --> 2:10:58.320 more y'all, but the forefront is for y'all. Zeke Juel's 2:11:00.280 --> 2:11:04.920 m jem right. But then you got fast On, you 2:11:05.080 --> 2:11:08.160 got Tito my man food back in the days. Then 2:11:08.160 --> 2:11:09.960 you got a song we told my Tito trying to 2:11:09.960 --> 2:11:14.080 stab ship night. That was all. I love that, um 2:11:14.560 --> 2:11:20.240 um all these people so but you as like the artist, 2:11:20.280 --> 2:11:23.320 that wasn't the artist? How much pressure was that on 2:11:23.440 --> 2:11:26.280 the fans when the fans were seeing you? I really can. 2:11:26.400 --> 2:11:28.400 I don't know if you remember this, but I wanted 2:11:28.480 --> 2:11:31.960 to be can. It was like, look, anybody can't do anything, 2:11:32.400 --> 2:11:35.120 you know what I'm saying. So when Rocket Fuller was 2:11:35.200 --> 2:11:38.560 going on, he was like, look, just go every day, 2:11:38.680 --> 2:11:40.840 get up in there and go speak to them up 2:11:40.840 --> 2:11:42.080 in the cubic foods, you know what I mean. So 2:11:42.360 --> 2:11:45.960 every time if they finished a session six in the morning, 2:11:46.280 --> 2:11:48.520 I'm up there, Like you mentioned Sherry before, I'm up 2:11:49.440 --> 2:11:52.480 I mean every tube marketing promoting, just being a face 2:11:53.040 --> 2:11:55.560 if they wasn't there or I'll just be up in there. 2:11:55.600 --> 2:11:58.720 So that's I took that as what I needed to 2:11:58.800 --> 2:12:00.320 do at the time, you know what I'm saying. But 2:12:00.400 --> 2:12:03.120 if Kim asked me to do something, mama spit a 2:12:03.280 --> 2:12:05.520 verse of a hook I'm excuse me, more so a hooker, really, 2:12:05.960 --> 2:12:08.040 you know what I mean. But there's a lot of 2:12:08.200 --> 2:12:11.560 underground ship that Food Freaky was doing, you know what 2:12:11.640 --> 2:12:14.120 I'm saying. I was keeping everything a lot. You were 2:12:14.160 --> 2:12:17.480 jumping on conference calls, on the street team conference calls too, Yeah, 2:12:17.600 --> 2:12:19.920 because I was doing the deaf Jam street Team. He 2:12:20.400 --> 2:12:26.560 actually you felt about I know what, let me answer 2:12:26.560 --> 2:12:29.880 the sum something because you saw that going to the 2:12:30.000 --> 2:12:33.640 car like we're gonna like, no know what I'm saying 2:12:33.680 --> 2:12:36.720 this Zeke me and Jim wasn't speaking Zeken do ship 2:12:36.880 --> 2:12:39.120 like be next to me and put Jim on the phone, like, yo, 2:12:39.640 --> 2:12:44.440 what me and Cape have the same situation. But sometimes 2:12:44.440 --> 2:12:46.840 when you were together with somebody that close, you're just 2:12:46.880 --> 2:12:49.280 gonna have a situation. It doesn't matter, It doesn't matter 2:12:49.280 --> 2:12:52.520 if we could both be right now. The answer Zeke 2:12:52.640 --> 2:12:57.760 for Zeke, Zeke was mad. You know, he's being politically 2:12:57.840 --> 2:13:00.320 correct the way you're doing and not mad one of 2:13:00.440 --> 2:13:03.320 us matter the situation, because he would be next to 2:13:03.400 --> 2:13:06.240 me or next to Jim and be like, Yo, my 2:13:06.320 --> 2:13:07.480 man want to talk to you, and I'll be like 2:13:07.520 --> 2:13:09.520 who this and then be Jim and we'll both like yeah, 2:13:09.640 --> 2:13:11.640 come on man, and this in the phone way like 2:13:12.000 --> 2:13:13.720 in eight times. So he was trying to fix the 2:13:14.600 --> 2:13:17.440 the problem from day from day one, from the very 2:13:17.600 --> 2:13:20.200 very beginning, he was trying to fix it. Whether I 2:13:20.320 --> 2:13:22.360 was ready to fix it or Jim was ready to 2:13:22.440 --> 2:13:25.720 fix it or not, he was always there trying to 2:13:25.800 --> 2:13:28.560 fix the problem. And like he was about to say earlier, 2:13:29.480 --> 2:13:32.320 because basically to me, what he wanted to tell you 2:13:32.480 --> 2:13:34.160 is that he wants his credit for all them Old 2:13:34.240 --> 2:13:37.960 Boys songs and hey Ma songs. Because he sat in 2:13:38.040 --> 2:13:41.680 Michael Kaiser office every day for three months and basically 2:13:41.760 --> 2:13:44.640 told Mike Kaiser, you leave when I want you to leave, 2:13:44.800 --> 2:13:48.880 or I'll be here tomorrow or whatever, and Old Boy 2:13:48.920 --> 2:13:53.560 and Hey Mom became eventually the number one spun records 2:13:53.600 --> 2:13:56.520 and definitely in history, whether it's BC Boys, Old Coo, 2:13:56.640 --> 2:14:00.880 J Three, Third Base, whoever you want, even Jay Z. 2:14:01.160 --> 2:14:04.040 At the time before Kanye started breaking the records, those 2:14:04.080 --> 2:14:07.440 records were the number one spunt records in definitam history. 2:14:08.040 --> 2:14:11.720 And being that, Zeke sat in Michael Kaiser's office every 2:14:11.840 --> 2:14:14.400 day at radio, and then when Haymond came out and 2:14:14.440 --> 2:14:16.760 crossed over, he sat in ken Lanes that's the Z 2:14:16.880 --> 2:14:21.240 one hundred stations, you know, every day for months, put 2:14:21.280 --> 2:14:25.920 in Prussia. Nice pressure that the records became the best 2:14:25.960 --> 2:14:28.280 records in de jam history. And I think he's sponsible 2:14:28.280 --> 2:14:39.200 for those now. I think that's what he wanted. I 2:14:39.320 --> 2:14:41.000 think he was trying to get out of here, like 2:14:41.040 --> 2:14:43.120 I'm gonna get this out before we wrapped this up 2:14:43.160 --> 2:14:46.760 and then let niggas know that these songs basically not 2:14:46.880 --> 2:14:48.800 saying they wasn't good music, but it was a little 2:14:48.840 --> 2:14:54.800 elbow grease hues. So I got I got one more question, 2:14:54.840 --> 2:14:57.120 and I got three more questions from my nephew, nephews 2:14:59.720 --> 2:15:03.480 when I'm back. Yeah that when when when? When when 2:15:03.560 --> 2:15:06.880 me and you were speaking and we wasn't one one communicated? 2:15:06.920 --> 2:15:09.720 My name was like no, just chill. That's how cam is. 2:15:15.000 --> 2:15:20.440 He's telling me now like that Camus fly like that. 2:15:21.120 --> 2:15:22.840 He just doesn't. I'm supposed to speak to certain people 2:15:26.480 --> 2:15:32.440 you've never met, but but but his I just want 2:15:32.480 --> 2:15:35.120 to get to this right Internet, we all got Twitter, 2:15:35.200 --> 2:15:38.240 we all got do you als get locked up? There's 2:15:38.280 --> 2:15:41.720 this song to come out. What you was? Right? People 2:15:41.720 --> 2:15:44.120 are pointing to finger saying, man, they got to be 2:15:44.240 --> 2:15:47.840 talking about you. Well all right, I mean can't they 2:15:47.920 --> 2:15:50.520 gotta be talking about campus. Just be clear you just 2:15:50.560 --> 2:15:53.080 said that to me earlier. Actually anything So yeah, absolutely 2:15:54.200 --> 2:15:59.400 definitely this song comes out. I'm a journalist. Now you 2:15:59.480 --> 2:16:01.560 don't even know me. This is it first we've knowing 2:16:01.640 --> 2:16:04.520 me as a journalist, Like you know, these people are 2:16:04.560 --> 2:16:08.640 hearing me, and that's saying, look, no meows, it's going 2:16:08.760 --> 2:16:14.400 to slide. I'm not a gossip reporter. Don't report it 2:16:14.520 --> 2:16:17.920 or nothing, but being at you here, I have to 2:16:18.000 --> 2:16:22.320 ask that question. Um, this is record that comes out 2:16:22.680 --> 2:16:26.280 with Joel's is in jail or prior, and it seems 2:16:26.320 --> 2:16:28.080 like he's coming at you. Did you hear this record? 2:16:28.120 --> 2:16:32.120 Do you know what I'm talking about? So what happened 2:16:32.120 --> 2:16:36.160 in that situation, Well, Joel's was in jail when the record. Basically, 2:16:37.560 --> 2:16:40.320 I guess his girlfriend and his brother put the record 2:16:40.360 --> 2:16:42.760 Outum the album and he put out a mixtape by 2:16:42.760 --> 2:16:46.280 album or someone. He's in jail and so basically, um, 2:16:46.760 --> 2:16:50.360 I hear the record, sounds like it's about me. This 2:16:50.520 --> 2:16:53.600 to me, but I'm not gonna I'm not dissing Jim 2:16:53.680 --> 2:16:56.879 with duels. I'm just not dissing them on the record. 2:16:57.000 --> 2:16:59.560 So talking about them public publicly or whatever. If y'are 2:16:59.600 --> 2:17:01.120 mad at me, call I'm just not ever going to 2:17:01.240 --> 2:17:05.080 do that. But his girl called me, and uh, she 2:17:05.280 --> 2:17:08.800 explained to me, and I end up speaking to Jewels, 2:17:08.840 --> 2:17:12.240 and Jewels said that basically it's supposed to be too 2:17:13.879 --> 2:17:16.080 two sides of it. So it's when me and him 2:17:16.160 --> 2:17:20.360 wasn't speaking, it was that was his point of view, 2:17:21.320 --> 2:17:24.480 and he said he wrote my point of view, but 2:17:24.560 --> 2:17:27.440 he said instead of me him saying how I felt, 2:17:27.520 --> 2:17:32.160 he wanted me to write how he felt when Niggas 2:17:32.200 --> 2:17:37.000 wasn't speaking in jail. No, he had songs in his computer, 2:17:37.160 --> 2:17:38.840 and you know they're making no music in jail. I 2:17:38.879 --> 2:17:41.360 guess you got a Jewell got two million songs in computer. 2:17:41.400 --> 2:17:44.920 I don't know white for them out. So basically, that 2:17:45.120 --> 2:17:48.520 particular song he was saying it wasn't supposed to This 2:17:48.560 --> 2:17:50.400 is what he said that it was supposed to go 2:17:50.400 --> 2:17:54.480 on this album because he wanted me to do a 2:17:54.680 --> 2:17:57.080 verse or how he felt during that era when he 2:17:57.240 --> 2:17:59.040 was mad at me or I was mad at him 2:17:59.120 --> 2:18:01.680 or whatever, and I told him, you know this one 2:18:01.760 --> 2:18:04.440 y'all jail. We had this conversation and I was like, yeah, 2:18:04.480 --> 2:18:07.600 I'm not gonna do that because just confusing the fans. 2:18:07.680 --> 2:18:09.360 They don't know if this is today, they don't know 2:18:09.360 --> 2:18:11.880 if this is, oh, this is I don't really get it. 2:18:12.080 --> 2:18:14.760 But I just did the concept. It would have been 2:18:14.800 --> 2:18:17.160 dope if it was a few years ago. But I 2:18:17.240 --> 2:18:19.600 just yeah, but I just didn't feel it as a 2:18:19.600 --> 2:18:21.680 purpose for that. But that's what he told me. Okay, 2:18:23.120 --> 2:18:26.119 cool too. I just spoke to her yesterday, so it's beautiful. 2:18:26.200 --> 2:18:28.280 It's beautiful. So let me get to one of my 2:18:28.400 --> 2:18:32.080 nephews questions. He wants to know when you look at 2:18:32.120 --> 2:18:37.520 the free bands, change I know as I can. Tom. 2:18:45.360 --> 2:18:48.320 You know you told me. You know, he told me, 2:18:48.440 --> 2:18:51.040 said I couldn't afford to change, and I want to 2:18:51.080 --> 2:18:53.400 be dip set so bad that he said it took 2:18:53.440 --> 2:18:57.720 me three days to soft the eagle that's on the 2:18:57.760 --> 2:19:03.560 basketball truphies, but sorted for three days and bought a 2:19:03.640 --> 2:19:13.480 little route. You think about this respect that. Yeah, he's 2:19:13.480 --> 2:19:16.480 funked up. He's gonna he's gonna be mad. But so 2:19:16.680 --> 2:19:20.920 he's like, yo, free bands and he actually sent me 2:19:20.959 --> 2:19:25.800 a picture he ain't playing. Look he liked asked, y'all, 2:19:25.959 --> 2:19:29.560 what do you feel about free bands? Change? I mean, 2:19:29.600 --> 2:19:32.200 it's so good to be honest with you, my man, 2:19:32.760 --> 2:19:35.000 chubby baby, that's our family. You know what I'm saying 2:19:35.800 --> 2:19:45.760 right back, cam ain fucking with you, he laught, man, right, both, 2:19:45.920 --> 2:19:48.280 Let's get with my nigga. How you doing your right, 2:19:50.240 --> 2:19:54.000 my nigger? That's something being good to see you, man. 2:19:55.600 --> 2:19:57.880 So we don't know. We're on your questions right now, 2:19:58.000 --> 2:20:01.240 we're on the free bands. Do we feel like future? 2:20:02.400 --> 2:20:04.920 I was to say that, but I would I would 2:20:05.280 --> 2:20:08.360 know how you feel about the future. Um, you know, 2:20:08.920 --> 2:20:12.720 he basically took the eagle bird and put mgb all 2:20:12.760 --> 2:20:17.200 that and now that stage change, but that original change. Yeah, okay, 2:20:17.280 --> 2:20:19.240 all right, hold on spirit, we're gonna leave right there. 2:20:19.720 --> 2:20:21.959 We feel about that camp, I don't feel the way 2:20:22.000 --> 2:20:25.840 I mean like with Diplomats and Woo thing. I think 2:20:25.879 --> 2:20:28.680 those are the best logos. That's not gonna go nowhere. 2:20:29.280 --> 2:20:32.000 And Futures Family, that's you know, that's my guy. Plus 2:20:32.160 --> 2:20:38.240 he was dealing with chubby Baby, Chubby Baby from the Bronx. 2:20:38.320 --> 2:20:41.240 But we met in Ohio, me and us Ohio. That's 2:20:41.240 --> 2:20:43.720 where we met at and uh, you know he's been 2:20:43.720 --> 2:20:45.400 in Atlanta working for Future and a whole bunch of 2:20:45.400 --> 2:20:49.160 other niggers. So he's the future uh a while. When 2:20:49.200 --> 2:20:50.959 that logo came out, he called and told me about 2:20:50.959 --> 2:20:53.520 it before it happened, So it was all good with me. 2:20:53.760 --> 2:20:58.520 Like I said, Future Family is all good. God damn it. Yeah, 2:20:58.560 --> 2:21:00.360 I got all your other questions, y'all. I al would 2:21:00.360 --> 2:21:03.240 have used you all your other questions. I'm looking at 2:21:03.280 --> 2:21:05.680 I'm I'm trying to be like a good journalist, so 2:21:05.720 --> 2:21:07.840 I'm looking at all your other questions. Yeah, I already 2:21:07.840 --> 2:21:09.959 are we already good that this is a great interview. 2:21:10.320 --> 2:21:12.520 And he told me he didn't trust me this is crazy. 2:21:14.760 --> 2:21:20.120 No reason told you told me? Last really told me? 2:21:20.400 --> 2:21:41.640 Last kills the man always trust I bad the best 2:21:41.680 --> 2:21:51.760 thing in the world. I make a piece. Oh yeah, 2:21:52.879 --> 2:21:54.600 I'll be gonna hit you back. We're gonna hit you back. 2:21:59.600 --> 2:22:04.880 Do not not listen? Listen listen when I got a shot? 2:22:04.920 --> 2:22:07.280 How my shot magically appear. Let's take another shot for 2:22:07.360 --> 2:22:13.680 Killer Killer, motherfucking camp A movie getting the horse horsepower point. Yeah, 2:22:14.000 --> 2:22:20.440 all right, y'all take We need to understand again, we're 2:22:20.440 --> 2:22:23.640 taking this shot for him. We're taking this shot for horsepower. 2:22:24.080 --> 2:22:33.480 Why not let me look at Thanks for having me man, 2:22:33.520 --> 2:22:38.920 I appreciate it. Listen to me camp Um. I know 2:22:39.000 --> 2:22:40.800 I said this to you kind of like off the air, 2:22:41.720 --> 2:22:47.760 but you're one of my most favorite people in the world. 2:22:48.840 --> 2:22:52.520 Our relationship in the beginning, what happened was I'm gonna 2:22:52.520 --> 2:22:57.640 blame that on our success because why we didn't keep going. 2:22:58.200 --> 2:23:01.600 You know what I'm saying. I feel like without you know, 2:23:01.720 --> 2:23:05.440 over bigging us up. Maybe I'm over bigging me up. 2:23:06.760 --> 2:23:08.880 I feel like we were like j and NAS, like 2:23:09.000 --> 2:23:12.760 we dealt with that kind of situation where you were 2:23:12.959 --> 2:23:15.560 super a man then I was super a man here 2:23:17.080 --> 2:23:21.280 and but we could have done some well marketable ship 2:23:22.000 --> 2:23:25.000 and still can and still can. And I just want 2:23:25.000 --> 2:23:26.840 to tell you how much I appreciate you from then, 2:23:29.240 --> 2:23:33.160 how much I appreciate you now, how much I appreciate 2:23:33.280 --> 2:23:36.920 y'all because I got to see y'all like I got 2:23:37.000 --> 2:23:38.160 to see I don't want to say I got to 2:23:38.160 --> 2:23:40.320 see you at the bottom, but I got to see 2:23:40.400 --> 2:23:42.840 y'all coming up likewise, and I got to see you 2:23:42.959 --> 2:23:45.480 at the top. And I've always been propped, So just 2:23:45.560 --> 2:23:48.480 in case you don't know that, always been proud of. 2:23:49.240 --> 2:23:51.440 One thing about this right now is like this bro 2:23:51.600 --> 2:23:53.400 hustling is gonna hustle and we're gonna get the back. 2:23:53.400 --> 2:23:55.400 And that's one thing I respected by everybody. Of course 2:23:55.440 --> 2:23:59.600 our friendship. But to see, like you said I mentioned 2:23:59.720 --> 2:24:02.200 ninety seven, h ninety six, whatever year, is to see 2:24:02.240 --> 2:24:04.040 that you're still doing this, you see it, you still 2:24:04.080 --> 2:24:06.920 look great, pause that you still get money. I respect 2:24:07.000 --> 2:24:10.080 that more than anything else. Of course, I friendship, But 2:24:10.120 --> 2:24:12.720 I don't like nigger. You know what. I hate to 2:24:12.760 --> 2:24:19.720 hang out. First, Yeah, I love you had everything. I 2:24:20.000 --> 2:24:22.080 know what. I don't like what people say you'd be like, yo, 2:24:22.160 --> 2:24:24.520 how you doing, and somebody be like Yeah, I'm just maintaining. 2:24:24.560 --> 2:24:26.400 And I'm like, I don't want to hear you maintain it, 2:24:26.760 --> 2:24:29.360 Like I'm not really doing that. Maintaining ship And you 2:24:29.400 --> 2:24:33.320 know what I'm saying, that's another word that's like it 2:24:33.480 --> 2:24:37.400 wants depressing. How you doing maintaining? Yeah, my nigger, you 2:24:37.520 --> 2:24:43.240 just like when what I maintaining ship? Kevin Laos told 2:24:43.280 --> 2:24:45.000 me that and I ran with that for like fifteen 2:24:45.040 --> 2:24:48.160 twe years because you just go if you're just maintaining, 2:24:48.360 --> 2:24:52.040 you're satisfied with just getting by, And I'm not happy 2:24:52.160 --> 2:24:55.080 with just getting by, Like I got habits that I 2:24:55.080 --> 2:24:57.600 don't want to support. I want to keep doing. You 2:24:57.640 --> 2:24:59.840 get what I'm saying. So to say that, I'm saying 2:24:59.879 --> 2:25:01.520 that to say this, to see that you're still doing 2:25:01.600 --> 2:25:04.640 your shows, your second and you still could do songs 2:25:04.680 --> 2:25:07.640 if you want. It's about a few people, you know 2:25:07.720 --> 2:25:16.960 what I'm saying. But let's do it. Let's get the balls. Listen. No, 2:25:17.120 --> 2:25:22.480 I'm not gonna lie. I always had this Independent, major 2:25:22.600 --> 2:25:27.920 debate debate when it comes to the Independent. The way Cam, 2:25:28.440 --> 2:25:32.080 Jim and Dip said, did the Independent is different for 2:25:32.320 --> 2:25:37.000 New York based at that time, It's not difference. No, 2:25:37.320 --> 2:25:39.080 they did it great as far as New York. But 2:25:39.120 --> 2:25:41.080 what I'm trying to say is only independent base that 2:25:41.240 --> 2:25:44.520 was working was people from the South, people from Richmond, California. 2:25:45.120 --> 2:25:46.480 It wasn't working for them, you know what I'm saying 2:25:46.520 --> 2:25:50.039 that they wasn't once that it worked for in New 2:25:50.120 --> 2:25:55.320 York like it works. If what I'm saying about Cots wasn't, 2:25:56.440 --> 2:26:00.800 it wasn't a lie. Most other people other than we're 2:26:00.840 --> 2:26:04.199 going there and die. They're the only ones getting money. 2:26:04.240 --> 2:26:06.120 So that I could see it, fifty is coming from 2:26:06.200 --> 2:26:11.200 like here talking about you. So um, that's That's what 2:26:11.240 --> 2:26:14.039 I'm talking about. But the way they did it independent, 2:26:14.160 --> 2:26:16.480 I gotta I gotta salute that. I gotta sloop that 2:26:16.520 --> 2:26:18.520 I didn't see that not from New York. We other 2:26:18.560 --> 2:26:22.959 independent other than Rocket Fellow. There was no other independent people. 2:26:23.160 --> 2:26:28.039 Think about it Camp. No, they weren't independent. They were 2:26:28.160 --> 2:26:33.400 universe VERSU from the beginning because once DMX side that 2:26:33.600 --> 2:26:38.880 was definitely have university. The Locks were in the school. No, 2:26:39.040 --> 2:26:40.960 they were bad boy, yeah, and then they went then 2:26:41.000 --> 2:26:45.720 they moved over. So YEAHLL were the first independent of 2:26:46.080 --> 2:26:49.520 the independent company. People were independent with the major I 2:26:49.640 --> 2:26:55.200 just thought you mad independent period you know, independent, independent, independent, 2:26:55.400 --> 2:26:59.920 fucking with the independent, these other people with independent made 2:27:00.600 --> 2:27:05.360 That's that's right. Yeah, depending on the deal though, depending 2:27:05.400 --> 2:27:09.040 on the deal you have is how it is. If 2:27:09.080 --> 2:27:11.640 you own your masters, if you own your ship, but 2:27:11.800 --> 2:27:15.120 the end you can't own your masters. The major you can, 2:27:15.680 --> 2:27:22.240 you can the deal. It depends on the deal. Puff 2:27:22.320 --> 2:27:25.760 got his master's back. Now, eventually, if you work the system, 2:27:25.840 --> 2:27:27.520 you might get it. I'm in the process of that 2:27:27.680 --> 2:27:30.119 right now. Like I just got my master's back. Masters 2:27:30.360 --> 2:27:33.600 you want own in death Jam you don't. You don't want, 2:27:33.640 --> 2:27:37.000 you don't want the epic I'm working. They got Sony too. 2:27:37.160 --> 2:27:39.560 But so what's going on? Is this? So in case 2:27:39.600 --> 2:27:43.840 you ain't know, it's the thing I just found out 2:27:43.879 --> 2:27:50.280 about May ten years seven. Okay, you could go. You 2:27:50.360 --> 2:27:54.680 can re record your records right now, eight year statue 2:27:54.760 --> 2:27:59.000 limitation on your records. It's just like music. Yes, it's 2:27:59.040 --> 2:28:02.120 just a criminals. I just chart it out. So, so, 2:28:02.360 --> 2:28:07.320 for instance, who gets your super Doug ship forever? Well, 2:28:07.520 --> 2:28:11.920 right now it's Tommy. I forget it. Let's just use 2:28:11.959 --> 2:28:14.280 a random example. Let's just say I want to do 2:28:14.400 --> 2:28:16.959 oh boy over, I clear the sample everything I don't 2:28:16.959 --> 2:28:20.560 record the record right now, put out on streaming service 2:28:20.640 --> 2:28:22.440 and tells don't go they definitely on to get it 2:28:22.480 --> 2:28:25.360 get I go, get it to me right now, my bread, 2:28:25.600 --> 2:28:30.080 you record, got to record your everything, but this is 2:28:30.120 --> 2:28:32.360 the new version. Yeah, but you don't have to. You 2:28:32.400 --> 2:28:33.960 can say because people don't want to hear what they 2:28:34.000 --> 2:28:36.040 want to hear, you can record the exact same song 2:28:36.200 --> 2:28:41.240 you did today and put it out streaming because statue 2:28:41.280 --> 2:28:44.000 limitation on the on the music that how long they 2:28:44.040 --> 2:28:46.480 can actually own your ship and we don't. We don't 2:28:46.520 --> 2:28:50.840 be knowing ship like this right now. Yeah, well tell 2:28:50.879 --> 2:28:57.160 me no. I'm just telling you. So you could go 2:28:57.280 --> 2:29:00.920 and record everything over that you want to Yeah, seven, 2:29:01.120 --> 2:29:02.920 seven or eight. My Lloyder, me and my lawyer just 2:29:03.000 --> 2:29:04.920 went through this last week because I'm like, I want 2:29:04.920 --> 2:29:11.880 to go seven or yeah. Good, we could go do 2:29:12.000 --> 2:29:15.120 three fifty seven over any record. I want to do 2:29:15.280 --> 2:29:20.720 this over eight years over superdu is good. You go 2:29:21.720 --> 2:29:27.080 to make a little bit get checks right, you know 2:29:27.160 --> 2:29:30.200 that's an athorage a little nice. I like it, man, 2:29:30.280 --> 2:29:35.760 go ahead, thay much. But that's different publishing. Ye, that 2:29:37.360 --> 2:29:42.440 that's all I'm publishing. I don't I don't own. That's 2:29:42.720 --> 2:29:45.280 fucking genius. I had had no idea. Yeah, but I 2:29:45.400 --> 2:29:48.120 own my masters from Warner Brothers. All the stuff that 2:29:48.200 --> 2:29:51.960 I did when I left, defin want to publish it. No, 2:29:52.160 --> 2:29:55.840 I was on a Sylum, but it was through uh yeah, 2:29:55.920 --> 2:29:58.959 exactly so. But my deal I hadded like seven years 2:29:58.959 --> 2:30:01.000 statue of lemons say and on that for in the deal. 2:30:01.120 --> 2:30:03.760 So top mask was Joey I. E. They gave you 2:30:03.800 --> 2:30:05.760 back all my masters, So I got all my masters 2:30:05.840 --> 2:30:07.840 from there. So this is in the deals when you 2:30:07.959 --> 2:30:10.520 sign them, it says it's somewhere in there. On that 2:30:10.680 --> 2:30:13.520 particular deal with Tom Muskus and Joey I, I don't 2:30:13.520 --> 2:30:15.640 think they ever had a vision of standing there too long, 2:30:15.720 --> 2:30:18.160 so they wanted to give all this back they shipped. 2:30:18.520 --> 2:30:21.480 So basically after seven years I got my ship back. 2:30:21.520 --> 2:30:22.920 I just got it back for like the last three 2:30:23.000 --> 2:30:25.520 or four years. So like all the ship killing season 2:30:25.720 --> 2:30:28.440 and the album, the movie, etcetera. Ey, thinking that I 2:30:28.560 --> 2:30:31.480 did on a Sylum, I owned them. The money is 2:30:31.480 --> 2:30:34.200 a death chair. That's saying that ain't money there. But 2:30:34.360 --> 2:30:37.480 that's the catalog catalog. But I could go if I 2:30:37.560 --> 2:30:39.760 want to put the time in, I go record the 2:30:39.800 --> 2:30:42.680 whole album everything we did it depth him over and 2:30:42.840 --> 2:30:46.200 still my traffic this way to go get it. It's 2:30:46.200 --> 2:30:49.160 a lot of work. That's why. That's why the question 2:30:49.240 --> 2:30:52.120 he acts is like you could go to label right 2:30:52.160 --> 2:30:53.760 and be like, yo, it's up the masses. You can 2:30:53.800 --> 2:30:57.720 give me. At least I could just go record the 2:30:57.800 --> 2:31:00.800 ship over and y'all don't get nothing, or y'all get 2:31:00.800 --> 2:31:03.240 whatever I stuff on my Instagram ca now social media 2:31:03.360 --> 2:31:07.920 you can drop. That's the process of it. You have 2:31:08.080 --> 2:31:10.400 to still get the clearance. Some people don't want to 2:31:10.440 --> 2:31:13.720 go do that headache having to pay the producer. You know, 2:31:13.879 --> 2:31:16.360 if it's a sample in it or whatever, you have 2:31:16.400 --> 2:31:19.960 to do it all over again. It's still the same process, 2:31:20.200 --> 2:31:23.640 but you could own it. It will be yours. Yeah, exactly, 2:31:24.560 --> 2:31:28.480 hard crazy man. Do the whole worri for the over 2:31:29.320 --> 2:31:34.440 tragical bone down right. Now you've got some much some 2:31:34.640 --> 2:31:37.080 mean you got. You got niggas I funk with, like 2:31:37.400 --> 2:31:40.720 of course I funk with my nigga Johnny sitson Cinematic 2:31:40.879 --> 2:31:46.000 and and my nigga Gazia Empire. But you know, basically 2:31:46.120 --> 2:31:48.080 what they do is pay to git you on the 2:31:48.200 --> 2:31:52.520 top streaming services. Well so Spotify. What does it Spotify 2:31:52.760 --> 2:31:57.199 um wrap caveat, you know, the top playlists to play 2:31:57.280 --> 2:32:00.920 top playlists or whatever. But that's if you want to 2:32:00.959 --> 2:32:04.200 go that route to give them, which I do. I 2:32:04.280 --> 2:32:09.000 funk with them, but as cinematic, both of them. More 2:32:09.120 --> 2:32:11.800 with Cinematic the Empire, but I do business with Empire too. 2:32:12.320 --> 2:32:15.040 But the point being is you can go fucking get 2:32:15.120 --> 2:32:18.440 the distroct Kids account or a tune Core account right now, 2:32:19.240 --> 2:32:21.640 upload your music and that should be in your pocket 2:32:22.120 --> 2:32:25.000 thirty days, and then they come every thirty days straight 2:32:25.040 --> 2:32:27.200 to your pocket. So right now, that's what I tell 2:32:27.240 --> 2:32:28.800 the things. Now they'd be like, so I go to Major, 2:32:28.800 --> 2:32:30.240 I'm like, yeo, if you gotta bust the way it 2:32:30.280 --> 2:32:34.560 works right now? Everything you could it's analytics. So they 2:32:34.640 --> 2:32:36.760 could be like, you don't have this many Facebook friends, 2:32:36.920 --> 2:32:39.600 you don't have this many Internet um Instagram followers, you 2:32:39.640 --> 2:32:43.120 ain't got this many Twitter followers, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. But 2:32:43.240 --> 2:32:45.680 then when you do out all them numbers, you probably 2:32:45.720 --> 2:32:47.920 already set up with distroct Kids and tune Core and 2:32:48.000 --> 2:32:50.440 all that stream money coming to you. So what the 2:32:50.520 --> 2:32:52.320 funk you really need them for? Because they're not building 2:32:52.440 --> 2:32:54.680 artist from the ground up. No more, they're not done 2:32:54.760 --> 2:32:56.600 off from the ground up. They're going off your numbers. Yo, 2:32:57.280 --> 2:32:59.640 they ain't got this thing out. Fifteen millions streams on 2:33:00.040 --> 2:33:02.640 hits on YouTube, you got this many Now we want 2:33:02.640 --> 2:33:04.040 to funk with him. But at that point, if the 2:33:04.200 --> 2:33:06.600 artist is smart, they don't need you. But you know 2:33:06.640 --> 2:33:09.400 what I mean. So that's the game right now. It's 2:33:09.480 --> 2:33:11.760 any artist that's out right now, you're like, y'all wish 2:33:11.760 --> 2:33:15.120 you all to them new artists, new artists. Um to 2:33:15.280 --> 2:33:16.920 be honest with you'all can have fun with a lot 2:33:16.959 --> 2:33:20.879 of artists. Man, I'd be curving because I enjoyed my piece. 2:33:21.000 --> 2:33:24.080 Like when you get an artist, they problems become your problems, 2:33:24.720 --> 2:33:27.119 like and then they'd be super cool. And then when 2:33:27.160 --> 2:33:30.199 they be your artists would be mad. Problems they didn't 2:33:30.200 --> 2:33:34.160 have before that they got now that become they became 2:33:34.240 --> 2:33:37.840 your artists. Like Yo, my rent backed up. I'm like, 2:33:37.879 --> 2:33:48.560 how long six years making like now? Man? Yeah? Like 2:33:48.920 --> 2:33:52.200 she like that like that weird? I was supposed to 2:33:52.240 --> 2:33:55.560 say that, Come on, how many of you? I don't 2:33:55.560 --> 2:33:59.080 even want the paper? Can't come on artist, artists and yourself. 2:33:59.080 --> 2:34:01.240 I ain't gonnaind you out. I got one kid man, 2:34:01.879 --> 2:34:09.000 so you could do your man one kid man. That's 2:34:09.080 --> 2:34:12.600 it so um because I heard you say in the 2:34:12.720 --> 2:34:14.640 rhyme you said you was gonna take Juju back, but 2:34:14.720 --> 2:34:19.240 you saw what the fari what was what? It sounds 2:34:19.280 --> 2:34:25.080 like you understand. I don't know, I don't know. I'm 2:34:25.120 --> 2:34:27.960 asking so when I know when I broke up with 2:34:28.040 --> 2:34:30.240 her whatever, I guess. You know, we love and hip 2:34:30.280 --> 2:34:33.640 hop create the scenarios hard Safari running around, but a 2:34:33.720 --> 2:34:35.720 lot of people were sending it to me and you know, 2:34:35.760 --> 2:34:38.000 a little ship to stand the third And this is 2:34:38.080 --> 2:34:39.720 not to throw nobody under bucks. I don't have no 2:34:39.760 --> 2:34:41.760 problem with Safari, you have no problem with Juju or 2:34:41.800 --> 2:34:46.240 anything like that or whatever. But you know what when 2:34:46.280 --> 2:34:48.200 you was doing memes together, Yeah, like you know, I 2:34:48.959 --> 2:34:51.440 think I have an opportunity which you know, we won't 2:34:51.440 --> 2:34:55.880 get into the maybe'll rekindle ou situation if I wanted to, 2:34:56.520 --> 2:35:00.400 but that just kind of made it for me, like na, 2:35:00.640 --> 2:35:04.400 like no disrespect to so far, but you ain't got 2:35:04.440 --> 2:35:06.720 no type, like you know what I'm saying, Like it's 2:35:06.800 --> 2:35:10.360 just that's just two apples and orange, just big, like 2:35:10.760 --> 2:35:12.440 if you can mess with that note. And I'm not 2:35:12.520 --> 2:35:16.840 dissing them. I'm just like, that's your type. I'm not 2:35:17.000 --> 2:35:32.080 your type. No more respectful, respectfully, that's respectfully. I've never 2:35:32.160 --> 2:35:37.480 been stuck in my life. Please, I don't know what 2:35:38.440 --> 2:35:41.200 if you have. I'm a big big Elth fan. So 2:35:41.280 --> 2:35:43.360 if you have any big Elth story that you can 2:35:43.440 --> 2:35:53.959 tell me, big story, I really Uh damn. I got 2:35:54.000 --> 2:35:56.440 a lot of big eld stories. But they're like it's 2:35:57.320 --> 2:36:00.879 then if I say I'm it's still nigga's outside, that's 2:36:00.920 --> 2:36:04.640 gonna know what I'm talking about, the fun Like I'm 2:36:04.680 --> 2:36:07.240 trying to think, like, for instance, it's big I used 2:36:07.280 --> 2:36:10.200 to snap. The nigga's cruel person snapping, you know what 2:36:10.240 --> 2:36:12.959 I'm saying, and the niggas he was talking about still 2:36:13.040 --> 2:36:16.200 be outside. Not that I'm gonna talk, not that it's 2:36:16.200 --> 2:36:18.160 a problem, but it's just one of the situations like 2:36:18.200 --> 2:36:21.800 I don't want to bring up a nigga. You know, 2:36:21.920 --> 2:36:28.960 it's just hard man. His face, nigga's rude. He's like 2:36:29.040 --> 2:36:33.640 your mother's gonna die tomorrow, right, Yeah, talk like that 2:36:33.800 --> 2:36:37.000 to people. You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, like 2:36:37.160 --> 2:36:39.440 if we'll be rolling, dicing and nigga loud, you like 2:36:39.520 --> 2:36:42.080 your mother's gonna die to more anyway, So about that, 2:36:42.400 --> 2:36:45.280 and I'll be like, yo, this nigga is harsh man 2:36:45.440 --> 2:36:48.760 really harsh. But yeah, I can't really get into the 2:36:48.879 --> 2:36:53.440 best ones because his friends, his friends that he funk 2:36:53.520 --> 2:36:57.879 with that he used to talk about it's still outside, So, um, 2:36:59.360 --> 2:37:01.840 I'm really trying I think of a cool putting together 2:37:02.000 --> 2:37:04.800 Children of the Corn he said it was his. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, 2:37:04.879 --> 2:37:06.720 he had to deal so he you know, he's seen 2:37:06.840 --> 2:37:09.920 Nickel movements was popping off, so you know, he round 2:37:10.000 --> 2:37:11.800 it up. It's a song on this album called eight 2:37:11.959 --> 2:37:14.600 is Enough and he put me on that album on 2:37:14.920 --> 2:37:17.600 that song. So you know, I didn't really know anybody 2:37:17.640 --> 2:37:19.400 else on the record, so it was a privilege for 2:37:19.440 --> 2:37:21.200 him to put me on the record. And just the 2:37:21.280 --> 2:37:23.280 fact that he thought I could wrap. I appreciated that. 2:37:24.640 --> 2:37:27.360 Was it crazy that one record was the same sample 2:37:27.480 --> 2:37:31.080 that Puck had for what was the record the podcast 2:37:31.120 --> 2:37:35.080 after he passed It was the It was a record 2:37:35.120 --> 2:37:36.720 that you're talking about, man, It was one of the 2:37:36.840 --> 2:37:41.000 It was the American Dream. Yeah, yeah, I mean we 2:37:41.240 --> 2:37:44.400 we had it first. Res just wanted to use it 2:37:44.480 --> 2:37:48.080 before somebody else had it because Biggie I used um 2:37:49.120 --> 2:37:52.600 the bar sample for one more chance, And actually big 2:37:52.800 --> 2:37:55.840 L had that simple first on his ship having a 2:37:55.879 --> 2:37:59.199 big A couple of times. Yeah, Bigel had it first 2:37:59.240 --> 2:38:04.240 and then Biggie used it, and uh that Shi blew 2:38:04.240 --> 2:38:06.600 out the world. I changed the whole scenario for Biggie 2:38:06.760 --> 2:38:10.119 after that record came out. Yeah, how did you get? 2:38:10.200 --> 2:38:16.400 How did you? And phase on Glover? What's the names on? 2:38:25.120 --> 2:38:27.520 What is what is this? What is going on now? 2:38:27.640 --> 2:38:30.000 One day he was just talking reckless about jay Z. 2:38:30.120 --> 2:38:32.960 Wasn't you the street money? I just chimed in like 2:38:33.360 --> 2:38:35.120 I don't like, I don't think you're kind of out 2:38:35.120 --> 2:38:38.320 of pocket right there, because just just choming in like 2:38:38.400 --> 2:38:42.680 everybody else. Then he just started doing wow me, like 2:38:42.920 --> 2:38:46.200 photoshop pictures, acting like I was gay and doing gay ship. 2:38:46.280 --> 2:38:48.840 And I'm like, I'm gonna just go to all your videos. 2:38:48.879 --> 2:38:51.039 You're doing wow gay ship. If we're this and gay, 2:38:51.080 --> 2:38:53.040 I have a problem with gay people at all, nothing 2:38:53.160 --> 2:38:55.960 like that. But he was just calling me and I'm 2:38:55.959 --> 2:38:59.879 not having sexual so I like, if we're going this route, 2:39:00.040 --> 2:39:02.920 us have fun. You got nigg smacking him on the ass. 2:39:03.600 --> 2:39:05.640 You know what I'm saying. Humping him, you know what 2:39:05.680 --> 2:39:08.280 I mean, all in his movies and all type of ships. 2:39:08.320 --> 2:39:11.240 So I like, you should have probably picked a better 2:39:11.360 --> 2:39:13.760 topic then to go to this round, because I'm a 2:39:14.360 --> 2:39:16.920 I'm gonna clown you have fun doing that ship. I 2:39:17.120 --> 2:39:20.800 like Instagram, social media that should just like yeah, it's 2:39:20.840 --> 2:39:22.520 like you know what, But I tell me because it's 2:39:22.560 --> 2:39:27.320 like a it's it's a it's a Chevy on top 2:39:27.360 --> 2:39:30.440 of the world cream porch for me because when I 2:39:30.560 --> 2:39:32.840 say that, it's because it's extra it brings money to 2:39:32.879 --> 2:39:35.240 the table, et cetera. Cool. But I didn't come up 2:39:35.280 --> 2:39:37.840 in that error, so I don't panic it got niggas 2:39:37.840 --> 2:39:39.959 would come up in the Instagram error. Who if they 2:39:40.000 --> 2:39:41.680 don't get this many likes and there's many heads of 2:39:41.760 --> 2:39:44.160 this that they probably pin not probably definitely not seen 2:39:44.200 --> 2:39:46.840 it happen, or they're not feeling me anymore. My likes 2:39:46.879 --> 2:39:49.200 are going down. This is going down. So they panicked 2:39:49.240 --> 2:39:51.680 because they came up in the social media ever and 2:39:51.760 --> 2:39:56.280 that's what and to me, I Didin't this ship all 2:39:56.800 --> 2:40:00.000 extra cool? We're gonna bring some breadthrough social media, through 2:40:00.040 --> 2:40:03.880 the internet, etcetera, etcetera. But I'm not gonna panic if 2:40:04.160 --> 2:40:07.800 ship don't get a hundred thousand likes or if this 2:40:07.920 --> 2:40:11.840 don't get uh a million views or whatever the case is, 2:40:11.920 --> 2:40:14.800 because I still got wild bread. This ship is just 2:40:15.040 --> 2:40:18.480 extra topping on the cake for when for making it. 2:40:18.600 --> 2:40:22.200 But people panic over this because they came up in it. 2:40:23.200 --> 2:40:26.320 That's just not me. The same thing that that allows 2:40:26.360 --> 2:40:40.360 a dope talking, Yeah, the same thing that makes it dope. 2:40:42.360 --> 2:40:44.840 It's the same, the same engines in your brain that 2:40:45.360 --> 2:40:47.400 that makes you want to like you know what I'm saying. 2:40:47.440 --> 2:40:50.480 So that's why the kids are going crazy because they 2:40:50.680 --> 2:40:52.800 like dope fings. It was the whole doctor were talking 2:40:52.800 --> 2:40:54.520 we talked about we're talking about with Pitbull, the whole 2:40:54.560 --> 2:40:57.600 documentary that the guys that created the social media networks 2:40:57.879 --> 2:41:03.360 they made it that way. That the documentary you're doing 2:41:03.720 --> 2:41:07.640 ye on you or on dip set Okay, what's her 2:41:07.680 --> 2:41:10.360 name is documentary? I don't have a name it. We're 2:41:10.360 --> 2:41:12.600 in the middle of production now. Because what happens is this, 2:41:12.760 --> 2:41:16.440 I've been and you too. Most of your adult life 2:41:16.480 --> 2:41:18.920 has been publicized. So niggas don't think that you had 2:41:18.959 --> 2:41:22.160 a life before. You've been before you got the man, 2:41:22.240 --> 2:41:24.360 before I was the man. Yeah, exactly, I know what 2:41:24.480 --> 2:41:26.520 you said when you said you was Hollywood for the 2:41:26.600 --> 2:41:35.360 man before. Yeah, exactly before the yallar was the y'all exactly. 2:41:35.480 --> 2:41:38.040 That's what I'm saying. So most of my adult life 2:41:38.080 --> 2:41:41.080 has been captured this album and that album, and then 2:41:41.160 --> 2:41:43.000 niggas just think that's all it is. You know what 2:41:43.040 --> 2:41:47.800 I'm saying. Like, so now you got to realize what 2:41:47.920 --> 2:41:51.480 I'm doing. This I'm doing like before you've been gaining music. 2:41:51.520 --> 2:41:55.760 I'm doing two two parts haul them in the late 2:41:55.840 --> 2:41:59.360 seventies and through the eighties. This is sound a documentary. 2:41:59.480 --> 2:42:02.640 This sounds like a reenacted documentary. No, it's a documentary 2:42:02.760 --> 2:42:07.959 docu drama, like like Ri's. It's the real you're talking about. 2:42:07.959 --> 2:42:11.800 It's people acting you out. No, No, it'd be stock 2:42:11.879 --> 2:42:15.400 footage and people doing interviews and maybe old. But what 2:42:15.560 --> 2:42:18.200 it is. What I want to do is from the 2:42:18.280 --> 2:42:22.040 late seventies to ear and through the eighties. I want 2:42:22.080 --> 2:42:27.320 to show that I was brought up in you get 2:42:27.360 --> 2:42:31.279 what I'm saying, like, and probably a five six block radius. 2:42:31.320 --> 2:42:33.600 There's so many dope people from the late seventy early 2:42:33.680 --> 2:42:36.520 eighties and big time drug dealers or number runners or 2:42:36.520 --> 2:42:40.000 anything else like that that that needs to be publicized 2:42:40.080 --> 2:42:44.840 to make the realize who the niggut turned out to be, 2:42:45.080 --> 2:42:47.000 what made me the nigg got turned out to be 2:42:47.920 --> 2:42:52.960 so fucking uh. I want to talk about Fritz, I 2:42:53.040 --> 2:42:55.040 want to talk about Doug ee Lime. I want to 2:42:55.120 --> 2:42:58.560 talk about all these prominent figures in the four or 2:42:58.560 --> 2:43:01.480 five block radius to make me the person that I 2:43:01.600 --> 2:43:03.680 am growing up, you know, I want to talk about 2:43:04.240 --> 2:43:07.720 Big Allen, what it was, you know, his demas and 2:43:07.840 --> 2:43:09.760 his dad for on. These is all my friends, that 2:43:09.959 --> 2:43:11.840 the stories. I don't want to tell this story because 2:43:11.840 --> 2:43:14.160 it's not my story to tell. But if you ever 2:43:14.200 --> 2:43:16.640 see the movie City of Gods, that you know what 2:43:16.720 --> 2:43:20.080 I'm saying. That's my story for big galls and nigger story. 2:43:20.080 --> 2:43:23.360 I'm the cameraman, you know I'm not. I'm not the 2:43:23.440 --> 2:43:26.600 nigger who was. Yeah, but I'm just saying I can 2:43:26.680 --> 2:43:28.800 tell you everything about the whole story. I wasn't out 2:43:28.840 --> 2:43:32.200 there killing with them niggers with killing each other. But 2:43:32.360 --> 2:43:34.040 at the end of the day, I can tell you 2:43:34.160 --> 2:43:36.000 everything that happened, and a lot I need to be 2:43:36.040 --> 2:43:41.080 explained because like right now, right, I'm a superstitious nigger 2:43:41.200 --> 2:43:45.760 right like cut Poles, I mean you're working together. Yeah, 2:43:45.800 --> 2:43:51.080 I mean, I like, I don't handicapped Parker. I don't 2:43:51.280 --> 2:43:54.000 when I park, I walk around the handicap park I 2:43:54.040 --> 2:43:56.760 don't even want my feet to touch it the space 2:43:57.360 --> 2:44:02.160 period because yeah, yeah, yeah, because that could be your 2:44:02.200 --> 2:44:04.360 spot if you want it. You know what I'm saying. 2:44:04.480 --> 2:44:09.960 That can really be your Yeah, you can make it 2:44:10.040 --> 2:44:11.680 your spot. But the more of the story is, like 2:44:11.800 --> 2:44:15.160 my block, it's nothing in the world. It's nothing in 2:44:15.240 --> 2:44:18.400 this whole world right now that could make me. I 2:44:18.480 --> 2:44:20.760 could go Hunt forty Street, I go down Hunt thirty 2:44:20.840 --> 2:44:22.600 nine Fifth Avenue. It's nothing in this world that can 2:44:22.680 --> 2:44:25.200 make me walk and get out of my car on 2:44:25.280 --> 2:44:29.440 a Hunt thirty ninth Street between seven Atlantic Avenue because 2:44:29.520 --> 2:44:31.800 three niggers I know got popped, like in the twenty 2:44:31.879 --> 2:44:35.879 five ft space. So I'm never getting out my car 2:44:36.120 --> 2:44:39.240 on that block. I might go down, I don't. I'm 2:44:39.320 --> 2:44:41.280 just like, don't go to the Taco shot. Yeah, I'm 2:44:41.280 --> 2:44:44.600 not gonna go. Yeah, I don't go there because one 2:44:44.640 --> 2:44:47.680 of my best friends person I love, when he left there. 2:44:49.480 --> 2:44:52.280 Shot you're telling them, I don't. I don't. I won't. 2:44:52.560 --> 2:44:57.280 I look at it, but I won't right certain stayed outside, right, 2:44:57.480 --> 2:44:59.879 But I dig it like, I'm not typing that. I'm 2:44:59.879 --> 2:45:03.960 just not gonna do certain ship. So I'm superstitious like 2:45:04.080 --> 2:45:07.360 that though. But anyway, the story needs to be told 2:45:07.480 --> 2:45:10.320 on what I grew up into and what made me, 2:45:11.320 --> 2:45:14.520 you know, not trust certain niggains or not you it's 2:45:14.560 --> 2:45:19.680 not yeah, and then whatever I move, I move or whatever, 2:45:20.440 --> 2:45:22.720 and uh, you know, it needs to be a little 2:45:22.760 --> 2:45:25.320 more light shine on my neighborhood. So that's what I'm 2:45:25.320 --> 2:45:27.600 gonna do my first couple episodes before we even getting 2:45:27.640 --> 2:45:31.240 the dip set and my music career, anything, basketball career, 2:45:31.320 --> 2:45:34.200 anything like that. But if ship is so rich, why 2:45:34.320 --> 2:45:36.720 wouldn't it be like a re enacting ship? If I 2:45:37.160 --> 2:45:41.320 funk that question, if somebody's gonna play came run in 2:45:41.360 --> 2:45:44.879 the movie you're talking about, like with the wood Take Ship, Yeah, 2:45:45.000 --> 2:45:47.360 I think that can all happen. But I think this 2:45:47.480 --> 2:45:53.240 is set that the pet for that. Yeah. Yeah, and 2:45:53.280 --> 2:45:56.080 they're making it tomorrow. Who are you picking to play you? 2:45:57.000 --> 2:45:58.880 I don't know. I don't even know what they're gona 2:45:58.879 --> 2:46:04.480 like me. Bro, it's hard, but that's it's you. You You, 2:46:07.959 --> 2:46:10.080 This is really you play Alphle How did you do 2:46:10.120 --> 2:46:12.920 your research for Alphole. I lived in halland if I 2:46:13.000 --> 2:46:14.840 did a bad job, I wouldn't be able to live 2:46:14.920 --> 2:46:17.600 that damn. Like you know what I'm gonna do, go 2:46:17.720 --> 2:46:19.360 back home. And then when I did that movie, this 2:46:19.480 --> 2:46:21.680 when I was outside every day, like I was on 2:46:21.800 --> 2:46:28.880 Lenox Avenue every day, when a beat out of no, 2:46:29.000 --> 2:46:32.240 I'm just saying you know, you know, I'm just saying 2:46:32.320 --> 2:46:36.080 that because um, you know Damon, Damon's like going to 2:46:36.080 --> 2:46:38.160 produce that movie, had a little leverage, and then um, 2:46:40.120 --> 2:46:42.120 Dame lobby for me to get that spot. He wanted, 2:46:42.840 --> 2:46:45.800 They wanted another actor to get it, but they were 2:46:45.840 --> 2:46:48.120 stuck on with Harris. So Dame told him, if you 2:46:48.240 --> 2:46:50.800 really want what Harris, you gotta get me camera and 2:46:50.879 --> 2:46:53.480 he did good. So that's how that went. But but 2:46:54.200 --> 2:46:55.880 I said it earlier in the interview. I was like, 2:46:56.200 --> 2:47:03.800 like superstar status, household name. I think after paying the Fall, yeah, 2:47:03.840 --> 2:47:06.760 absolutely have to pay for you gotta realize its painting. 2:47:06.840 --> 2:47:09.200 Fall came out one year there, old boy and Haymond 2:47:09.240 --> 2:47:11.440 and diplomats and Jim Jones, didn't you well it was 2:47:11.480 --> 2:47:13.680 like a domino effect of a lot of ship there. 2:47:15.040 --> 2:47:20.200 So yeah, after that, it wasn't it was Yeah, you 2:47:20.240 --> 2:47:24.040 described you to do you play the great part to me. 2:47:27.520 --> 2:47:29.120 I I'm gonna tell you what my sick. My ship 2:47:29.200 --> 2:47:33.600 was all freestyle. What happened was one year. Uh I 2:47:33.720 --> 2:47:37.400 knew Griselda. I didn't because this just sounds crazy. I 2:47:37.520 --> 2:47:40.560 just the way describers was tart. Let me just excuse 2:47:40.600 --> 2:47:42.600 me because we're tart. It might be wrong too, right, 2:47:43.280 --> 2:47:48.640 But I knew that there was some Colombians and queens. Oh, 2:47:48.800 --> 2:47:52.800 I did not be personally, but Queen's we had the cocaine. 2:47:53.879 --> 2:47:58.560 We didn't have to go up town. And I've seen 2:47:58.600 --> 2:48:02.800 Alpo and Rich. That's the ship I'm describing, Nika popping 2:48:02.840 --> 2:48:05.680 the wheelies all that that was them. Niggas was in 2:48:05.840 --> 2:48:10.520 forty Projects and that's what they were doing the same 2:48:10.560 --> 2:48:13.000 exact scene that I'm striving. And I don't know, I 2:48:13.240 --> 2:48:17.199 don't get what you say because they're like, y'll listen, 2:48:17.320 --> 2:48:22.879 describe alphole but over exaggerated. I was like, alright, cool, 2:48:23.040 --> 2:48:25.560 I don't even have to kind of over exaggerated. I 2:48:25.680 --> 2:48:29.000 kind of it's gonna use what I've seen in forty Projects. 2:48:29.040 --> 2:48:30.600 One day I went to see Uncle Wise and forty 2:48:30.640 --> 2:48:34.760 Projects or basically is one of those things and I've 2:48:34.800 --> 2:48:39.800 seen Alphole Rich and I forget whatever whatever one of 2:48:39.920 --> 2:48:43.520 these other guys is. But they was out there because queens. 2:48:43.600 --> 2:48:46.680 We had it at this time, and they were showing off. 2:48:47.360 --> 2:48:49.040 That's when I knew what the Hall of Nigga was. 2:48:49.640 --> 2:48:51.920 The Hall of Nigga is one of the Papa Willie 2:48:52.040 --> 2:48:57.039 in forty projects, just got killer neighborhood. But these things 2:48:57.080 --> 2:49:00.760 wanted to be like like yo, yoa gonna remember who 2:49:00.800 --> 2:49:03.160 we were when we left. But they bore all the drugs. 2:49:03.280 --> 2:49:07.000 It's a fact. And I was like wow. So when 2:49:07.040 --> 2:49:09.760 I got the role, you know that my part some 2:49:09.879 --> 2:49:12.840 of y'all shy did in Canada, right, most of it. Yeah, 2:49:13.040 --> 2:49:16.040 My sip was on a huntred fur. My sip was 2:49:16.120 --> 2:49:18.800 in hall. So they said, yo, and I just I 2:49:18.920 --> 2:49:22.720 just a freestyle that most of the ship. I freestyle. 2:49:22.879 --> 2:49:37.960 Charles Stone was super dop. It was I havenau. The 2:49:38.080 --> 2:49:40.800 script was whacked, the clothing was whacking. I was like, yo, dame, 2:49:40.840 --> 2:49:43.560 they're gonna move back. No not. The script was wack. 2:49:43.680 --> 2:49:46.600 The dialogue so what they did was yes, yes, yes, 2:49:46.720 --> 2:49:49.120 divalogue was trash to use their dialogue. Yeah, So what 2:49:49.280 --> 2:49:52.560 Charles to do was you didn't use their dialogue me. No, 2:49:52.760 --> 2:49:57.320 he he gave me. He gave me two takes. I 2:49:57.360 --> 2:49:59.440 would read the dialogue that was in the script and 2:49:59.480 --> 2:50:02.480 he'd like saying, how for real you would say that 2:50:02.520 --> 2:50:05.120 if he was out there. So ninety percent of my 2:50:05.280 --> 2:50:09.000 dialogue was improv because shaw Stones understood that he's a 2:50:09.080 --> 2:50:11.760 dope director, but he did um you know, how to 2:50:11.800 --> 2:50:14.000 capture and he didn't like Daddy day Care or something 2:50:14.080 --> 2:50:16.600 like that CEO C movie. You know, I'm the girl 2:50:17.040 --> 2:50:19.080 girl really thought. I really thought she was left dive 2:50:19.160 --> 2:50:26.320 man playing that part off. He's gonna capturing times? Man, Oh, 2:50:28.040 --> 2:50:30.760 what what's kill the season? What we're gonna do last 2:50:30.800 --> 2:50:35.080 season parts? You know that's big niggas. Niggas really want 2:50:35.160 --> 2:50:38.360 that man. So yeah, let's put together. Start to go 2:50:38.520 --> 2:50:42.000 fund me, start to go fund me see him. Niggers 2:50:42.040 --> 2:50:48.400 really wanted. He can't really independent. Do you want us 2:50:48.440 --> 2:51:03.160 to man all the killing season? Where we filmed that movie? 2:51:04.400 --> 2:51:07.520 I was crazy. I would get up. I would watch 2:51:07.600 --> 2:51:10.840 a movie and have to pay the yeah, and everybody 2:51:10.920 --> 2:51:14.840 goes listen, everybody's starving for you to act like I'm 2:51:14.879 --> 2:51:16.680 doing my own ship because you know what, I think 2:51:16.720 --> 2:51:20.240 it's me Broma's roles like be a florist. You know 2:51:20.320 --> 2:51:23.800 what hurts me mad? Now I'm old. I'm not you know, 2:51:23.840 --> 2:51:25.720 I can't comprehend. But you know what hurt me bad 2:51:25.840 --> 2:51:28.360 ro When I went to see Minster Society in the 2:51:28.440 --> 2:51:31.160 movie theater and then the next time I went to 2:51:31.280 --> 2:51:33.840 movie theater to see Old Dog, he was inkwell, and 2:51:33.920 --> 2:51:36.160 I'm like, na, I'm not dog. Like you know what 2:51:36.240 --> 2:51:43.840 I'm saying, Like I noticed he's acting. Yeah, he really 2:51:43.879 --> 2:51:46.959 acted about telling you at that particular time like I'll 2:51:47.000 --> 2:51:50.000 play I play against the forest florist. Now, I'm just saying. 2:51:50.520 --> 2:51:52.960 At that time, I wanted taking roles like It's ship 2:51:53.080 --> 2:51:54.840 with Tom Hanks stayed for me on type of ship. 2:51:55.040 --> 2:51:57.920 Somebout Tom doing my own movie, and I gotta say, man, 2:51:58.000 --> 2:52:00.160 I spend like a hunting son down too on it 2:52:00.240 --> 2:52:02.680 on it. But I was waking up, like right, what 2:52:02.800 --> 2:52:05.240 do we I saw that Shi in order like I 2:52:05.480 --> 2:52:07.080 just that there is a story here, we show the 2:52:07.120 --> 2:52:09.080 me in here, we have a shoot I watched heat 2:52:09.080 --> 2:52:11.440 one name like, yo, my sister, I'm like, I want 2:52:11.440 --> 2:52:13.440 to have a shootout. She like, if you wait next week, 2:52:13.520 --> 2:52:16.760 we could do it. For I wanted tomorrow She's like, 2:52:16.879 --> 2:52:18.800 give me two days. Can We just had to shoot 2:52:18.840 --> 2:52:21.320 out and I made this. That ship was off the 2:52:21.400 --> 2:52:23.480 top of my head. It was no script. We ain't 2:52:23.480 --> 2:52:27.440 nobody had no paperwork, stared on nothing, one nigga period. 2:52:27.640 --> 2:52:31.320 I just got the masters the rights back to it 2:52:33.600 --> 2:52:36.680 a silence part of my master's getting back. So basically 2:52:36.760 --> 2:52:39.200 they at the rights in the movie. And then um, 2:52:39.840 --> 2:52:41.640 I got my music back, and then I got Killer 2:52:41.720 --> 2:52:44.160 season back probably about eleven months ago. Show now on it. 2:52:45.240 --> 2:52:52.160 Oh Dad, this is right, I only got you got anything. 2:52:52.520 --> 2:52:56.400 You the reason why I got my business perfect like that. 2:52:59.800 --> 2:53:01.760 Let it's just a basic thing that me and my 2:53:01.879 --> 2:53:05.879 lady got together. Close shoes, accessories, waste, trainers, you need 2:53:06.480 --> 2:53:08.320 we got, you know what I mean. And it really 2:53:08.360 --> 2:53:11.040 comes off stemming off a Killer because everything he did, 2:53:11.480 --> 2:53:13.320 if he saw something, he wanted to know how to 2:53:13.480 --> 2:53:15.039 own it. You know what I'm saying. He don't want 2:53:15.080 --> 2:53:16.280 to be a part of it, you know what I mean. 2:53:16.360 --> 2:53:17.880 He wanted to own He made the tire, he wanted 2:53:17.879 --> 2:53:20.560 to make the tire so good that they become his tire. 2:53:20.720 --> 2:53:23.200 So with that and everybody moving forth, I don't even 2:53:23.680 --> 2:53:26.240 knew what to do because of him, and that's how 2:53:26.280 --> 2:53:28.920 I had the stories about ten years now. But you 2:53:28.959 --> 2:53:39.720 know what I'm saying, definitely, it's www dot my perfect 2:53:39.800 --> 2:53:42.560 pid dot net. You know what I'm saying, Definitely, ladies 2:53:42.600 --> 2:53:47.320 going there from super small to five X. Now, Mom, 2:53:47.400 --> 2:53:49.680 I think it's my last question. It's gotta be gotta be. 2:53:49.879 --> 2:53:57.320 I gotta peak this last one little off this deserve ship. 2:53:59.520 --> 2:54:02.000 Do you think that y'all brung it to the furthest 2:54:02.200 --> 2:54:07.000 stent with that, oh, the liquor, yeah, the look at 2:54:07.040 --> 2:54:11.280 this yeah, uh killing with further, you know, be honest 2:54:11.320 --> 2:54:13.280 with you. That's John. There was a lot of Jim 2:54:13.920 --> 2:54:17.200 Jim connect. I was more of a face even though 2:54:17.240 --> 2:54:20.560 he's you know, the money was all good, but Jim 2:54:20.680 --> 2:54:22.480 handled a lot of that, like a lot of stuff 2:54:22.560 --> 2:54:25.240 Jim needs, Like Jim went to Cotch. He's the one 2:54:25.280 --> 2:54:28.080 one not wanting to go to cots Jim felts people. 2:54:28.600 --> 2:54:30.400 You know, Jim brought a lot of ship to the table. 2:54:30.520 --> 2:54:33.480 So while he was getting along with him not getting along, 2:54:33.520 --> 2:54:36.240 I played my position, even though my position was still 2:54:37.560 --> 2:54:39.680 the same as his. But I let him handle that 2:54:39.720 --> 2:54:41.520 ship like that's a lot of ship to me and 2:54:41.640 --> 2:54:44.520 Jim do today when it comes to business and maybe 2:54:44.600 --> 2:54:48.720 in some shift for diplomat going on, uh clothing deal 2:54:48.840 --> 2:54:50.880 and I'm like, I'm talking to home like I handle it, 2:54:51.040 --> 2:54:52.720 let me know what we get. But then it might 2:54:52.800 --> 2:54:55.280 be a skateboard deal, and be like, yo, I'm just like, 2:54:55.400 --> 2:54:57.320 you know, about to bust these mood funds dot dot. 2:54:57.760 --> 2:54:59.840 So we don't always gotta be around each other as 2:54:59.879 --> 2:55:02.400 we communicating. Let me know you're about to be two 2:55:02.480 --> 2:55:05.400 and eight thousand for hat deal, or it might be 2:55:05.800 --> 2:55:07.959 a skateboard deal for for you know what I'm saying, 2:55:08.040 --> 2:55:09.880 like I don't got to be there, just let me 2:55:09.920 --> 2:55:12.640 know what the numbers is and vice versa. You know 2:55:12.680 --> 2:55:15.880 what I'm saying, Like that's trust too. Yeah, absolutely, because 2:55:15.920 --> 2:55:17.600 we got some ship that's about to come up. I 2:55:17.640 --> 2:55:21.360 didn't even tell you, but I got it's a surprise. Yeah, 2:55:21.560 --> 2:55:27.320 we're not gonna really Yeah, let's be clear. I'm gonna 2:55:27.320 --> 2:55:31.000 be honest. I love your brothers, I appreciate, I'm so 2:55:31.120 --> 2:55:34.520 glad everything everything, But y'all all the actually first guests 2:55:34.560 --> 2:55:38.280 and never drink or smoke it out. That's not that's 2:55:38.320 --> 2:55:45.640 not because these niggs drink and smoke smoking a black 2:55:45.680 --> 2:55:51.760 and I don't know what what this black and is about. 2:55:52.800 --> 2:55:56.760 Let's be honest with y'all. Seen you show and I'd 2:55:56.800 --> 2:55:59.600 be like, niggas look crazy, funked up up your small 2:56:01.720 --> 2:56:05.920 we're not good to talk about it. I wasn't gonna 2:56:05.920 --> 2:56:10.720 do that. I don't see things up here. I don't 2:56:10.720 --> 2:56:34.000 know if people gold. I've seen the way different, different way. 2:56:34.080 --> 2:56:36.360 Let's just tell you something before people put up the 2:56:36.440 --> 2:56:39.440 drink chance. We begged them, don't get drunk, don't smoke, 2:56:40.000 --> 2:56:41.760 just come so we could do it together. You know 2:56:41.760 --> 2:56:45.320 what I'm saying, that's what the celebration. Listen, you know, 2:56:45.400 --> 2:56:48.199 god less versus for taking our celebration, you know, thinking 2:56:48.280 --> 2:56:50.040 and making it theirs. And that's no problem because you 2:56:50.040 --> 2:56:52.880 know what. You don't have to laugh that hard, all right, 2:56:54.640 --> 2:56:57.360 but if you're right, but you know, god less versus 2:56:57.360 --> 2:56:59.480 for taking that, that's what this is. It's a celebration. 2:56:59.800 --> 2:57:02.880 So just in case I didn't say it, because you know, 2:57:03.040 --> 2:57:04.560 I don't know if your fans have been telling you 2:57:04.640 --> 2:57:05.920 this is the reason why they want you to come 2:57:05.959 --> 2:57:09.320 on Drink Champs, it's because how how much I appreciate you. 2:57:09.840 --> 2:57:13.040 You've been a part of not only my you know, 2:57:13.560 --> 2:57:18.000 CNN when when once come on with to Jail. That's 2:57:18.040 --> 2:57:21.080 my first freestyle with someone outside of my barrow all 2:57:21.120 --> 2:57:23.600 side of people that I worked with, but not only that, 2:57:24.760 --> 2:57:29.800 uh my solo career. You know bad from TV. I said, 2:57:29.840 --> 2:57:34.800 I called you earlier? What what? And that was a 2:57:34.879 --> 2:57:40.000 disrespect to band from TV because band for TV was 2:57:40.080 --> 2:57:43.920 the people that I considered my closest friends. So that's 2:57:43.920 --> 2:57:45.440 why I wish you would have called me back then 2:57:45.480 --> 2:57:48.600 when we talked about that earlier. But but that and 2:57:49.720 --> 2:57:55.080 what was this last question I got? Is Perrie dogging? Right? 2:58:02.400 --> 2:58:08.760 Take another shot? What's your memory a band from TV? 2:58:09.720 --> 2:58:12.600 I remember when I wanted to be was hard to 2:58:12.720 --> 2:58:16.600 be was so hard and I wanted to rap longer. 2:58:16.640 --> 2:58:18.640 And he was like, Kim, I gotta be trouble. I 2:58:18.680 --> 2:58:21.600 think it's troubler. Yeah, And I was like, yo, let 2:58:21.640 --> 2:58:24.640 me just go crazy like him. You gotta keep it, 2:58:25.000 --> 2:58:26.920 you gotta keep it sixteen I'm like, this be too 2:58:27.000 --> 2:58:30.800 hard to do. Sixteen bars many. I don't remember this camp, 2:58:30.800 --> 2:58:34.320 so you gotta school me. Did you hear anybody else's 2:58:34.480 --> 2:58:39.280 verse at that time? Really? I just now I didn't 2:58:39.360 --> 2:58:41.240 nobody else verse. I just I just heard the beat, 2:58:41.320 --> 2:58:43.760 and I was like, yeo this, I didn't know Locks 2:58:43.800 --> 2:58:52.360 and nobody was gonna be on there. We appreciate your 2:59:00.280 --> 2:59:10.960 ship ship all right, so weerate this question. Reiterated, relaxed. 2:59:12.800 --> 2:59:15.279 You didn't know no one else was on that record 2:59:15.560 --> 2:59:19.440 for band, for TV. You just played the beef for me, 2:59:20.879 --> 2:59:24.560 elect lady. I don't remember the studio, but I remember 2:59:27.000 --> 2:59:29.400 I ain't getting a lot of money. I don't remember. 2:59:30.040 --> 2:59:32.800 I do remember when I heard it. I was like, damn, man, 2:59:32.840 --> 2:59:34.680 I would have probably did something else because I heard 2:59:34.720 --> 2:59:39.880 the Locks on it. Afterwards, then Pun was on it. Yeah, yeah, 2:59:39.959 --> 2:59:43.160 you killed Now I appreciate it, but I still was. 2:59:43.320 --> 2:59:48.560 I was like, it's nothing like in my opinion is 2:59:48.640 --> 2:59:51.200 just like damn, I wish I would. I didn't know 2:59:51.280 --> 2:59:53.119 nobody was gonna be on the record, period. Not saying 2:59:53.160 --> 2:59:55.119 I didn't appreciate. I didn't throw to me a nory 2:59:55.200 --> 2:59:56.800 record though I didn't know who else was gonna be. 2:59:57.520 --> 2:59:59.920 Everybody else on the record that other people on today 3:00:00.040 --> 3:00:03.680 hear their verses. Honestly, it was how did that process 3:00:03.720 --> 3:00:08.360 go with everybody else? It was nature was in the 3:00:08.440 --> 3:00:17.360 studio called hunt called cam cam always was in Man, 3:00:18.160 --> 3:00:21.240 I think I'm twenty blocks away. I'm good you came. 3:00:21.560 --> 3:00:25.039 You heard the ship slave this ship and just laugh. Okay, 3:00:25.080 --> 3:00:28.480 but everybody else here the other verses, I didn't know 3:00:28.560 --> 3:00:30.520 if we was I was gonna put hooks in there. 3:00:30.959 --> 3:00:33.080 So he's probably right when he says when he says, yo, 3:00:33.200 --> 3:00:35.360 I just played him to be. I wanted to keep 3:00:35.440 --> 3:00:37.880 going rapping. I remember he's like Cam, so you just 3:00:38.040 --> 3:00:41.200 never told people there was other I can't live his story. 3:00:41.280 --> 3:00:43.720 His other part of the story is helping me, shoping 3:00:43.800 --> 3:00:46.360 mild the part of the story. But really what it 3:00:46.600 --> 3:00:50.800 was was I thought I was gonna do a hook 3:00:51.879 --> 3:00:55.120 but it was Nature. Then it was Pun, and it 3:00:55.320 --> 3:00:57.120 was Cam, and I got them all three on the 3:00:57.280 --> 3:01:02.160 same exact day, no, same exact night. And the reason 3:01:02.200 --> 3:01:04.199 why I remember it was it was an electric Lady, 3:01:04.680 --> 3:01:07.000 was because I went downstairs because one of my boys 3:01:07.040 --> 3:01:10.400 went to Great Papayas and I went downstairs because Pun 3:01:10.600 --> 3:01:13.480 was never supposed to be on the record. You talked 3:01:13.480 --> 3:01:15.200 about PM wasn't supposed to be on the record. I 3:01:15.240 --> 3:01:17.000 was supposed to put you in Nature on the record. 3:01:17.520 --> 3:01:21.680 That was my idea. But then I went downstairs to 3:01:21.760 --> 3:01:23.920 Great Policies. One of my dudes was eating the frank 3:01:24.000 --> 3:01:25.560 and I was like, I just wanted to make fun 3:01:25.640 --> 3:01:28.080 of this nigga, and I went and pun lay the verse. 3:01:28.480 --> 3:01:31.760 When pun lay Diverse, I was like, yo, I gotta 3:01:31.800 --> 3:01:35.080 put put cam on this, and you were like twenty 3:01:35.080 --> 3:01:36.360 blocks away. I forgot. I think he was in a 3:01:36.440 --> 3:01:38.560 hip factory. I think it was a block hit factory. 3:01:38.879 --> 3:01:41.680 But you didn't know anybody else was on this verse. Okay, 3:01:41.760 --> 3:01:43.680 so let's just end this with this. Do you think 3:01:43.720 --> 3:01:47.720 you had the best version of Badman TV? Uh? I 3:01:47.800 --> 3:01:49.880 don't know. I have to listen to it again, but 3:01:50.560 --> 3:01:54.640 I really, I'm really a big fan of when Jada 3:01:54.720 --> 3:01:57.320 and Styles go back to back, I'm a big fan of. 3:01:57.879 --> 3:02:00.560 That's very humble, you know like that. Then also, you know, 3:02:01.360 --> 3:02:04.040 what's your part as well? You're saying I had the 3:02:04.080 --> 3:02:06.840 best part. You say that can Yeah, at least I'm 3:02:06.840 --> 3:02:10.960 not talking. I'm saying I'm not your lot. Fun was 3:02:11.080 --> 3:02:16.080 one of the best to the club. See, that's what 3:02:16.160 --> 3:02:19.640 I'm saying. When you ab all that ship, you have 3:02:19.800 --> 3:02:22.959 to put yourself in different minds, you in the car, 3:02:23.160 --> 3:02:25.040 or you in the business or whatever when you're in 3:02:25.040 --> 3:02:39.400 the club. But for the club, you had the verse right. 3:02:41.080 --> 3:02:43.480 Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs, 3:02:43.560 --> 3:02:46.160 hosted by Yours truly, d J e F and n 3:02:46.200 --> 3:02:48.240 O r E. Please make sure to follow us on 3:02:48.320 --> 3:02:51.439 all our socials. Let's at Drink Champs across all platforms 3:02:52.000 --> 3:02:55.480 at the Real Noriegan, I g at Noriega on Twitter, 3:02:55.920 --> 3:02:58.840 mine is at Who's Crazy on I g at d 3:02:59.000 --> 3:03:01.760 j e FN on Twitter, and most importantly, stay up 3:03:01.800 --> 3:03:04.920 to date with the latest releases, news, and merge by 3:03:05.000 --> 3:03:10.080 going to drink champs dot com. 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