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Speaker 1: To see your boy? And what up? Is d J
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Speaker 1: makes up now right now? When I tell you this
Speaker 1: is probably the most requested guests in Drink Champ's history.
Speaker 1: The man is one of the most efficient hustlers in
Speaker 1: this game. When I first met this brother, they were
Speaker 1: doing card whales and he had everybody grown to ask
Speaker 1: people from the record labor card whales. I wanted to
Speaker 1: see men not looking an Olympic gym or some ship semn.
Speaker 1: His brother is influential. If he says we're pink, thank god,
Speaker 1: damn it, motherfucker's this gonna were pink he's put on
Speaker 1: people ilustrious career, made one of the illest movies on
Speaker 1: his own and major and independent. He's still out here.
Speaker 1: It's fucking his NIAVL right now. I love it. I
Speaker 1: think that same y'all. My name. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: different nationalities to change the neighbor but keep sucking the
Speaker 1: neighbor man. This man, like I said, it's influential. He's
Speaker 1: put on other people that likes Jim Jones, Juel Santana,
Speaker 1: you know, Freaky Zeki. These guys have changed the world
Speaker 1: with when when dip set ran Ship New York was
Speaker 1: New York mixtape, game Over came over, took over the rock.
Speaker 1: We're gonna ask about all that Biggie Smalls I spoke
Speaker 1: to the other day. He said, Biggie, that's one of
Speaker 1: the biggest last request was to make sure Cameron gets
Speaker 1: a deal. So in case y'all don't understand who the
Speaker 1: hell I'm introducing, we did introducing killer motherfucking camera. Let
Speaker 1: me sprek some creed man out real, spreate some creed
Speaker 1: and there you know what I'm saying, kill the motherfucking
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how proud I am to get
Speaker 1: you listen, I'm gonna be honest. Your fans and our
Speaker 1: fans are out niggas, like I can't even take a
Speaker 1: mess with you. As soon as I take a person,
Speaker 1: we're there chests stretch. So me and you spoke the
Speaker 1: other day. I think he was having lunch. I think
Speaker 1: when we said and you said, yo, man said, Duke
Speaker 1: told me wait for the culture. That my saying I
Speaker 1: need to do it for the coaching man in my
Speaker 1: comments and all that, so ip people can make out
Speaker 1: make you this is this is all right? When when
Speaker 1: everybody's top five, when you when when the person speaks
Speaker 1: about a person's top five and big just as repeatedly
Speaker 1: a part of that conversation, and when you know that
Speaker 1: that was big. One of the biggest last requests was
Speaker 1: to make sure that you gotta do because you wrote
Speaker 1: crush on you for the Little Seeds part, not a
Speaker 1: Little Kim part. Like if you listen to the album
Speaker 1: version Little Seasons by something, I guess they couldn't get
Speaker 1: Little Kim in the studio whatever you gotta ask on that,
Speaker 1: but for a Little Seas part, yeall wrote that, So
Speaker 1: how is that like, um, you got the call from
Speaker 1: now what happened is they wanted to makes the right
Speaker 1: like six songs for Kim or Sees or whoever. So
Speaker 1: they paid him thirty thousand for like five songs and
Speaker 1: he gave me five thousand for one of them and
Speaker 1: crushed on you was to joint. So uh, Mace learned
Speaker 1: it when and then did it after when when it
Speaker 1: came out went platinum. Then I was like, I did it.
Speaker 1: I'm one of my shot. That's how that went. But
Speaker 1: they paid Mace to write some songs for him, and
Speaker 1: Mace came to me to get it. So let me
Speaker 1: ask you. I noticed is like pushing the story farther along.
Speaker 1: But Big all of a sudden dies because Big you
Speaker 1: met Big? Yeah, and so what what what was that exchange? Like, Um,
Speaker 1: Mace took me the Bigg's house because I guess Big
Speaker 1: was looking for artists. Uh. I got to his crib.
Speaker 1: He had two bitches. His leg was broke. I think
Speaker 1: he's in the car so that he had two bitches
Speaker 1: in the bed and he was like a Biggie rhyme.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah he was. He just was like yello, man.
Speaker 1: He wanted to say another kid that makes both them
Speaker 1: and Mace was like Nae Kim is to do cam
Speaker 1: really got it kind of yeah, yeah, definitely. So he
Speaker 1: uh he put on like fifteen beats are beat. He
Speaker 1: put on our rap to it. I used to have
Speaker 1: mad wraps in my pocket, written wraps, no phone wraps, like,
Speaker 1: so I just wrapped every beat and he's like that
Speaker 1: said enough, I want to sign you. Then he called um.
Speaker 1: I was like, bet, let's do the deal. So then
Speaker 1: he passed away and they happened to be shooting. They
Speaker 1: always love big popa video and harm because that was
Speaker 1: my question because back in the days, if someone passed
Speaker 1: a win, like you know, we didn't have like communication
Speaker 1: like how we we didn't have Instagram, So how had
Speaker 1: he passed away? How did you get Um? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: see harm it. Always loved big paper video shoot and
Speaker 1: I stepped to him. I'm like, yo, I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: a big one to sign that. He's like, now I'm
Speaker 1: in the middle of a finish up a deal with
Speaker 1: Epic and as soon as I do, I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: you the deal. And that's how it went. Just like that,
Speaker 1: just ran down on him like what are we doing?
Speaker 1: Oh god, damn god, damn. Miss some lost to that
Speaker 1: I think one of the verses that you kicked the
Speaker 1: verse for one of my old you haven't set up
Speaker 1: and I brought the free style. You told me that
Speaker 1: this was a verse you kicked forbid. Ok I don't
Speaker 1: know if I told you that. Yeah, you do the
Speaker 1: free stuff for Okay, I'm I can't. I can't say
Speaker 1: about our roles do with you. I can get your
Speaker 1: own bottom. Thank you enough. Okay, this is killer kid.
Speaker 1: I've been a lot of money with a lot of
Speaker 1: thugs and a lot of drugs. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I might start the ship out with one of your
Speaker 1: bitch as the biggest party for stunning I'm saying, but
Speaker 1: right now with my day a e f hes about
Speaker 1: to play something exclusive ship, So back the funk about
Speaker 1: our face if you ain't talking about no cheesecakes ship.
Speaker 1: She wanted to check the City Chian. That kid is
Speaker 1: latest man's obligation fixing conturation cat sack. Strangely, those he
Speaker 1: changed bes paid my old team more so they could
Speaker 1: play at b frame me inside the Blue three used
Speaker 1: me with two keys, blue Chi and movie and me
Speaker 1: playing group be who cheats The two bees even got
Speaker 1: the coat that I trist in my Lucy. Got to
Speaker 1: make arrangements. Before arrangements, say what's to say to say?
Speaker 1: What's I cave it? But they's repentance before the sentence.
Speaker 1: Just got to catch that girl that I was friends with.
Speaker 1: It seems she was even my key from the visas
Speaker 1: flight twenty three easton because the region her day was
Speaker 1: Nat took a cab straight to Ltwaia cour at the
Speaker 1: checking body killing. I don't remember. I don't even remember that.
Speaker 1: You don't remember it, Na, I ain't gone. I'll be
Speaker 1: listening to this ship like that. Remember, No, No, I
Speaker 1: don't remember. Was too good that perfectly? One take? What
Speaker 1: a big house? No know what I'm saying when it?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I'll be on that like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: one take boys, man, So let's get to twenty nine.
Speaker 1: See and what the fun is going on with tway
Speaker 1: nine s she's just stalking up with you? How to
Speaker 1: like the stalking nothing? I mean, let's and man, it's
Speaker 1: it's all. It's all proof case shit go left. You
Speaker 1: gotta tape all that ship. You never know when it Mike.
Speaker 1: First of all, it's in the complexion for the connections
Speaker 1: on her side, so you never know when she's gonna
Speaker 1: go right or wrong. But you know, I'm single. I'm
Speaker 1: having fun. That's what's about. But this is what I got,
Speaker 1: so I gotta get in your business bad. First, What
Speaker 1: was the first? What was part one? I didn't see
Speaker 1: part one. I've seen part DM me. She DM me.
Speaker 1: It was in my d M s and she was
Speaker 1: taping me from a terrorists. So when she was taping me,
Speaker 1: I just posted it because she's like, she went out
Speaker 1: of my black baby, So I thought that was funny.
Speaker 1: I think that's funny too. Yeah, I thought that was funny.
Speaker 1: And after that, you know you're staying up building by
Speaker 1: the beach. We went to the beacht and like and
Speaker 1: I'm not trying. You know, it's a lot of slot
Speaker 1: niggers in here, so I want to be too much info,
Speaker 1: but I'm not really in there. Like love, I'll beat
Speaker 1: bitches up when I have secions, not bad because they
Speaker 1: know that they got to want it. They want that,
Speaker 1: so I'm really aggressive. That was part three. Then part four.
Speaker 1: I don't feel like I'm obligating because I'm not in
Speaker 1: a relationship, and you know that's where we are right now.
Speaker 1: And then part five, Um, I've seen you in two g's.
Speaker 1: What was your last night? Yeah? Yeah, we us a
Speaker 1: full lot of them. No, he's in Brown County. Wasn't
Speaker 1: all the way in for a lot of them, but yeah, playhouse,
Speaker 1: playhouse to see the spots I go to like that.
Speaker 1: But we's in we us in Brodwood County. We's having fun.
Speaker 1: I got a little fun last night. We had a
Speaker 1: great time last night. Actually, so let me ask you
Speaker 1: to Twain nine ce pump or you pulled up what
Speaker 1: Twain was in there? She was in there. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it was random or what. If she spoted
Speaker 1: followed the call, what happened. But we had a good
Speaker 1: time last night. We're on good terms right now. We're
Speaker 1: in great terms. She was running down you at one point.
Speaker 1: This is why I don't say that's been going on?
Speaker 1: What's been going on? Eight this morning? That's when this
Speaker 1: eight this morning? Yo? Yo, you can't do this show.
Speaker 1: You can't do this. No, no, no, no no, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna call security. Yo. I'm going to
Speaker 1: to call I'm going to call security, yo. Yo. Yo.
Speaker 1: Why first of all, why are you calling me and
Speaker 1: you're outside the door, Yo? Yo, fruit, that's crazy. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I gotta do this all that. Oh but that's this
Speaker 1: and I'm talking about right here. Nope, nope, okay, I'm
Speaker 1: getting to order protection. Yo, I'm telling you that I'm
Speaker 1: getting to order. Yeah that was one day. I'll take that.
Speaker 1: I got more footage of that, but no, she just
Speaker 1: gonna get living than that. Man, still get living than that. Okay,
Speaker 1: So moving around. Remember the first time me and you,
Speaker 1: matt Um, I remember the first time I've seen you.
Speaker 1: I don't think we actually met. I was telling you know,
Speaker 1: we're talking up a day and I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: first time I seen you, I believe it was in
Speaker 1: D and D studios and you were just mad, hyperactive.
Speaker 1: When I elevated something like yo, left practice high right
Speaker 1: going crazy and I'm like I'm on the elevator, like, yo,
Speaker 1: what's doing because I don't really know what left racktill
Speaker 1: and I'm like this dude's crazy, Like Yo, what's your name?
Speaker 1: I'm like kid and he's like I'm Noriega and I'm
Speaker 1: like it's good to meet you. Man. So I don't
Speaker 1: know if that was like a formal introduction, but I
Speaker 1: remember remember with that, but our formal real first time
Speaker 1: like chilling was the clue tech. Okay, now I remember
Speaker 1: that clearly a hundred percent, definitely that was a great
Speaker 1: That was a great great I was legend Derry. I
Speaker 1: remember that. Yeah, that was a great. Such that was
Speaker 1: That was like our first introduction because I believe you'll
Speaker 1: was supposed to do the clue tape and we were
Speaker 1: supposed to do clue tape. And I think we either
Speaker 1: came early or came late. That y'all a must have
Speaker 1: came late. And who he was, I don't no bones
Speaker 1: in jail. It was me and Trash was supposed to
Speaker 1: do it. Emm wasn't really a rapper. And that's why
Speaker 1: if you noticed, Mace caused him almany thug on the
Speaker 1: on the joint, he doesn't say Emon thug because we
Speaker 1: didn't he didn't really know his name. And the crazy
Speaker 1: ship is, if you really listened to the freestyle, Trash
Speaker 1: didn't know. He thought that they were the locks. So
Speaker 1: he says that the andiges pick up to the locks.
Speaker 1: It's like, this is a mess, Like well, I think
Speaker 1: we didn't know each other, and then the stardom came
Speaker 1: like this, this is the first freestyle and um, that's
Speaker 1: it stuck to New York. Up. Ye, that's a fact. Clue.
Speaker 1: You know, it was a lot of mixed tapes you
Speaker 1: have rawn g s. But when Clue started doing them tapes,
Speaker 1: you know, it was a big deal to be on
Speaker 1: his tape. I remember listening to like Naas and Jungle
Speaker 1: and jay Z and Source Money and a bunch of
Speaker 1: different people. So to get on Clue save, you have
Speaker 1: to take advantage of that situation, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So we already knew what he was going there to do,
Speaker 1: no matter who is there, it didn't matter if fucking
Speaker 1: the best rapp in the world, then we knew what
Speaker 1: we was coming to do. And y'all killed it too.
Speaker 1: But that was our first introduction. And um, I believe
Speaker 1: our relationships started from live. But moving on, I was
Speaker 1: watching because when I do these interviews, I like to
Speaker 1: go and do my little research. So one thing that
Speaker 1: I noticed for the past couple of years in your
Speaker 1: performance and your performance, you don't do none of your
Speaker 1: old ship. You don't do like horse and carriage or
Speaker 1: what mean the world are you? And stuff like that?
Speaker 1: Is there a reason for that? I'll do what mean
Speaker 1: the world are you I really want to do horse
Speaker 1: And because like even though the album was dope, everybody
Speaker 1: likes Confessions of Fire, it's not a hundred percent mine.
Speaker 1: Like I wrote everything and you know, did everything, but
Speaker 1: had a lot of say on that. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like a creative dude, and I'm a creative dude.
Speaker 1: But if you're want the car, it's only one stand
Speaker 1: where only one person could drive. So we class heads
Speaker 1: a lot, and not in a bad way, just creatively.
Speaker 1: But you gotta realize from the point of view, I
Speaker 1: saw my deal in September seven something like that, nine
Speaker 1: November whenever. But Biggie died in March, so they lived
Speaker 1: with Big. That's the man. Everything I did I compared
Speaker 1: to Big, like, yo, Big, what it did? It Like
Speaker 1: this is a big thing like that because that was
Speaker 1: his crew. And I'm like, I'm not from Brooklyn, I'm
Speaker 1: not Big. It's only one Big, you know. You gotta
Speaker 1: let me beat myself. So a lot of that Confessor
Speaker 1: is a fire album. It was clashing and I don't
Speaker 1: really listen to that ship that much. A lot of
Speaker 1: people love it, but I don't really. It's not me.
Speaker 1: So when you start getting the s d E. Come
Speaker 1: home with Me, diplomat ship rockets. Yeah, all that ship
Speaker 1: is mine. That's what I did the first album. It
Speaker 1: was like collaboration and I'm not saying it's bad, but
Speaker 1: I like that. Like I'm sure if you tell Nas
Speaker 1: and J and all these greades that first album, it
Speaker 1: is a collapse too because you're learning the game, right. So, um,
Speaker 1: but that's interested to hear Houston he say that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just don't. I don't funk with that album like that,
Speaker 1: and I love it. I'm not mad at it, but
Speaker 1: I wasn't comfortable in my skin doing that album. That
Speaker 1: was too much yell big what it said? This Like
Speaker 1: every session it was like if Biggie was here big
Speaker 1: with you know what I'm saying. And you can't even
Speaker 1: knock them because they're still mourning. Really, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like he wasn't the biggest rapper right exactly,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it is what it is.
Speaker 1: But I don't really perform nothing of that ship because
Speaker 1: I don't really consider that a hundreds of scent my music.
Speaker 1: So what's your favorite album? Speaking of that? Um, I
Speaker 1: like Purple Haze. I was in a good zone when
Speaker 1: Purple Haze came out. I was in a great rhythm.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's probably my favorite drink.
Speaker 1: I like rock Well come home with me. That's right.
Speaker 1: When we got to Rockefeller, Like, we had a bunch
Speaker 1: of sep What you gotta realize, we had a lot
Speaker 1: of mixtapes to them put out. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: A bunch of mix tapes. So but if I have
Speaker 1: to pick my favorite autum, I say it's Purple Haze.
Speaker 1: You felt at the time when you felt it was
Speaker 1: all you, Yeah, not from s D. From Sden on.
Speaker 1: It was all me. But I just was in a
Speaker 1: n t to sue you for s the because didn't
Speaker 1: you have like but it was the basketball in the gun,
Speaker 1: like the posters up from for that ship. They really
Speaker 1: see it. They just made us take it down. There
Speaker 1: wasn't no big lawsuit or none of that ship. But
Speaker 1: they wouldn't they wouldn't let us advertise using the NBA
Speaker 1: logo with a gun. This was an idea at the time,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So, but U s D
Speaker 1: one to today everything I felt is my what I
Speaker 1: wanted to do. Ain't nothing worse than I mean, the
Speaker 1: album with Gold. But to me, I felt I was
Speaker 1: applied to mortists in my brain, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So to me, it's nothing worse than not succeeding when
Speaker 1: it's not your idea. So like, if I'm gonna fail,
Speaker 1: let it be my ship. I want to fail doing
Speaker 1: what I want to do. I don't want to fail
Speaker 1: doing your idea. And that's how I feel about Ship.
Speaker 1: That's how I felt about uh Confession a fire album.
Speaker 1: But here's hiss, his hiss, the deal boom. You got
Speaker 1: you dealing with this one ego on his one side.
Speaker 1: You gotta you feel like you're gonna get out of
Speaker 1: this deal and then you get with this other ego
Speaker 1: that worked at least for that time. But what you
Speaker 1: talking about exactly, because I mean, what kind of because
Speaker 1: like I'm imagining, I'm not I'm not sorring imagining leaving
Speaker 1: from on You're saying to yourself, Okay, it was a clash.
Speaker 1: You don't want to go through that. It's not a
Speaker 1: bad clash. Trash me, trash class opinions. Someone say it
Speaker 1: was a good class class And I had to do
Speaker 1: the same thing. But when you you the hottest fucking
Speaker 1: label happened to be Yeah, man, I think y'all from
Speaker 1: from from Harlem and then you go to the rock
Speaker 1: Is it? Is it any of that what you just
Speaker 1: dealt with with? Yeah, with DNA, what happened. What happened
Speaker 1: with Dane was this. So when I left her Entertainment,
Speaker 1: I got to Sony to Epic directly because they got
Speaker 1: to keep whatever artists they unknost this deal or whatever
Speaker 1: artists they wanted to take from his label, they got
Speaker 1: the key. So when I got the epic, I ain't
Speaker 1: really I'm starting to learning the game. I didn't really
Speaker 1: know the game and entertainment, you know. I got a deal.
Speaker 1: I'm sorrying I signed a fifty but some of my
Speaker 1: publishing not knowing I knew, but I didn't give a funk.
Speaker 1: I just wanted Brad, did you get red for the Yeah?
Speaker 1: They gave me bread, but yeah, yeah, but it was
Speaker 1: not the bread you're supposed to get that first deal
Speaker 1: on one. Yeah. So, um, when I got the epic,
Speaker 1: you know, she moving slow, you know, it's like corporate.
Speaker 1: So as a girl that who was cool with me,
Speaker 1: and she started schooling me to what niggas wasn't doing.
Speaker 1: Like it was the records, wasn't getting spending certain states.
Speaker 1: My fucking promotion wasn't going right. And she's like, that
Speaker 1: Nigga run promotion, that nigga run your market, and that
Speaker 1: nigga do X y Z and epic. Because I'm going
Speaker 1: up there and seeing what's something, She's like, look, you're
Speaker 1: not getting no spence here. You're not getting no spence here.
Speaker 1: You're like, you know, Spence said, you're not doing this.
Speaker 1: This nigga run your market and it's no marketing dollars
Speaker 1: being spent. But you know he got a brand new
Speaker 1: car outside. So I'm like, I'm like, when Nigga is
Speaker 1: doing the money, you know what I'm saying. So I'm
Speaker 1: learning all this ship She's telling me all this, So
Speaker 1: now I'm like, Nigga is trying to play me. So
Speaker 1: me and Dame had to fall out. I used to
Speaker 1: rock with Dame when I was young. You know, I
Speaker 1: used to do ship for him. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You don't have to be specific about what, but I
Speaker 1: used to run around and do ship for Dame, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So we fell out when I
Speaker 1: was young. He he was just getting his deal. I
Speaker 1: was just trying to get my deal because but that's
Speaker 1: my man since I was thirteen years old, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I already know his ego ain't
Speaker 1: no problem. Now I'm seeing what's going on a sony
Speaker 1: and I'm like Rocket fell is on top of the world.
Speaker 1: I know Dame got other distribution beside definitely him. He
Speaker 1: had a lecturer, he had to land and got mad distributions.
Speaker 1: So I was like, I gotta swallow my product and
Speaker 1: go talk to my men because I'm like, yo, I
Speaker 1: took a risk. I took mad risk for you, bro.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like you can at least
Speaker 1: He's like yo, he like, Cam, ain't no big deal.
Speaker 1: You know, you get out to deal with give me
Speaker 1: one of my distribution. So I'm like, I ain't bet
Speaker 1: he said, if you get out to deal like yeah,
Speaker 1: Like yeah, So I'm like, yo, bet So now I'm
Speaker 1: just going to four um epic every day with like
Speaker 1: forty niggas and making that Mad uncomfortable. Like I'm like
Speaker 1: niggas is running up people cubicles eating they lunch, you know,
Speaker 1: we're going in Dave mcphe's offense taking his calls to
Speaker 1: the point where it's like mad undercover cops and epic
Speaker 1: every day. Because I was going every day with forty niggas.
Speaker 1: My nigga Luke got Brady Tylerman was like forty of
Speaker 1: us going every day. So then niggas was just like
Speaker 1: this beginning becoming a headache. So Dame came up and
Speaker 1: talk to Damon Fish and he's like, Yo, this is
Speaker 1: not gonna stop you not as well let him out.
Speaker 1: So he eventually let me out. And when I got
Speaker 1: the Rocket Feller, I told Dame might say, y'all, I
Speaker 1: don't know if I want to come to Rocket Feller.
Speaker 1: You got all a distribution with a lecture and whoever else,
Speaker 1: Maybe we should take it over there because I know
Speaker 1: what I'm coming with. I already know the game. Now
Speaker 1: I just got jerked. I'm not gonna get jerked again.
Speaker 1: But I knew Dame won't trying to drink me anyway,
Speaker 1: because now you gotta record label this popping, and you
Speaker 1: got my man who's trying to teach me instead of robbing.
Speaker 1: So when that happened, I came up to Rocket Feller.
Speaker 1: He's like, now it's gonna be cooler. Rocket, I'm telling
Speaker 1: you everything is straight. We're gonna be good. And when
Speaker 1: we got there, we just, uh, we just funked up
Speaker 1: an epic. We just turned into animals and went crazy
Speaker 1: up there and just put music out because it seems
Speaker 1: like But I but to answer your question, no, I
Speaker 1: ain't have no problem with Dame Dame. You know what
Speaker 1: Dame told me. Dame told me this. Dame said, look,
Speaker 1: anybody loves you and harm you didn't think up there,
Speaker 1: this is what we're gonna do. You're gonna give your
Speaker 1: opportunity to an album. If it don't work, you know,
Speaker 1: at least you got your job and you can answer
Speaker 1: phones and ship. You know what I'm saying, nothing like
Speaker 1: like like no, I don't want to. But he was
Speaker 1: that serious. He wasn't joking. But that's real ship though.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that he was still willing
Speaker 1: to give me a job if this ship ain't go right. Okay,
Speaker 1: let me ask you a question. Is it's a fair
Speaker 1: assessment to say that once you came Rocket fella, you
Speaker 1: became a superstar. Um, if I don't like the huge
Speaker 1: and I think that's for public to decide if you're
Speaker 1: a superstar, megastar, whatever. Period. I just think I became
Speaker 1: more recognizable in the household man. Yeah, absolutely, and they
Speaker 1: can start paying attention to more of what I was doing.
Speaker 1: And it was like, this is what I want to
Speaker 1: do anyway, you know, I want to bring my niggas
Speaker 1: in and you know, start a crew and have artists, etcetera, etcetera.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Like, it's like you, I
Speaker 1: don't know if you've ever seen uh boutang series? You
Speaker 1: know yea in order them one da It's a great series.
Speaker 1: Didn't even get to the rap part yet after season one.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I consider that ship my
Speaker 1: story kind of like Rising story. He had to label,
Speaker 1: we had to put out the single he didn't want
Speaker 1: to put out. Then we got out the fucking deal.
Speaker 1: He started putting together all the ship that he wanted
Speaker 1: to do. But you know what I'm saying, So to me,
Speaker 1: that's kind of the same scenario because it's this famous
Speaker 1: line like you who else said one time for cam
Speaker 1: for taking over the rock? Did it seems like everything
Speaker 1: was different from that moment on out side looking in
Speaker 1: even though, even though like I knew you, Damn it's
Speaker 1: twenty years, it's seven. I was side looking at I
Speaker 1: thought that everything was sweet. I thought you, I think
Speaker 1: it's went there, really took it over. But I didn't
Speaker 1: think you had no problems. I didn't think none of this.
Speaker 1: Then that line actually says, and then everything kind of changed.
Speaker 1: I think Karen Sibyl said it was over parking spy
Speaker 1: and all this ship. Do you thing? I know, I'm
Speaker 1: asking you to carrosson. We don't know what the funk
Speaker 1: she'd be talking about. Sometimes she got to shut the
Speaker 1: funk out. She just be trying to get cloud for
Speaker 1: her ship, you know what I'm saying. She was my
Speaker 1: employee too, and I called about lying about that ship, like,
Speaker 1: I know you're doing whatever you're doing to get your
Speaker 1: ship popping and all that, but you worked for me
Speaker 1: for like three years. Stop with the lion and ship.
Speaker 1: So you because you're cloud chasing and you ain't got
Speaker 1: you already established, you know what I'm saying. I don't
Speaker 1: got no problem with her, but over that situation right there,
Speaker 1: I called her like what are you talking about? And
Speaker 1: she's like, oh no, they made this. I said, I
Speaker 1: heard it all right, So let's just address that type
Speaker 1: of woman wasn't. This is what happened. You wanna know
Speaker 1: what happened? We got the rocket. Drink with me or something. Man,
Speaker 1: please give me some water and drinking water, drinking, I'm
Speaker 1: not drinking. Let's try something now, ain't drinking. But basically, well,
Speaker 1: so we get the rocket. Fellow, um, I said, we
Speaker 1: just got jerked. So we know the game and what's
Speaker 1: going on is we're not waiting for nobody. You get
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We're not sitting around waiting for Dame
Speaker 1: to do something or bigs at jail or whoever. We're
Speaker 1: going to bust the moves. So when we get there,
Speaker 1: Bobby Dash the radio we get wanted him to get
Speaker 1: radio boom, start building a rapport with him. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We started learning everybody who does what
Speaker 1: in office, the a and rs and people who picked beats,
Speaker 1: that secretaries, everybody. We're building the report. So we're going
Speaker 1: there every single day. Uh. And what we did was
Speaker 1: we took advantage of a studio baseline studios, so we
Speaker 1: would whenever jail being Memphis Bleak of Beans or whoever,
Speaker 1: wasn't performed recording. We would go in there and we
Speaker 1: would record, but if we have to stay there or night,
Speaker 1: no matter what it was, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So then we did a mixtape. You know, a lot
Speaker 1: of people don't know we really did the first artist mixtape.
Speaker 1: You know, you had mixtapes, but all the artists was
Speaker 1: on DJ's mixtape. Fifty did it after us. And I'm
Speaker 1: not sitting there trying to take credit because it's like
Speaker 1: who invited the toilet? You don't really give a funk.
Speaker 1: You're gonna take a ship, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But I'm just telling you. We started doing our own
Speaker 1: mixtapes first because he's on everybody mix tape, like, you
Speaker 1: might as well do our own ship. So then Damion like, yo,
Speaker 1: y'all putting out free music? What the funk are y'all doing?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yo, you gotta build a buzz if
Speaker 1: the streets funk with it. Then He's like, now we
Speaker 1: gotta sell this ship. We gotta sell. I say, broe
Speaker 1: have more music, gonall be ready, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So we're doing all this ship. Now I'm learning with depth.
Speaker 1: Jimmy's that def jam, I don't remember this, Dann says upstairs.
Speaker 1: So now I'm going to funk with Kevin Lows every day.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, what's up, man, I got this. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm funking with this song. So I'm going funk with Leo,
Speaker 1: going to funk with Julie Greenwall. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's my crew. Yeah, I love that, yeah, Kiser,
Speaker 1: Yeah you know, yeah exactly, yeah, yeah, fat cat. So
Speaker 1: I'm up there fucking with them, thank you, sucking with
Speaker 1: them every day. And so we're up there, it's too
Speaker 1: big closets, like walking closets. It's mad posted boards and
Speaker 1: shipping them in front of the closets, cubical so it's
Speaker 1: two closets. We're talking fell the offices and they yeah,
Speaker 1: in their offices, but you know they offered they were
Speaker 1: seting there with Murder in Murder Ink was up there too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so nobody's using these closets. But they big closets and
Speaker 1: it's cubicles in front of them. So we used to
Speaker 1: stay to everybody leaves, so we cleaned them ships out.
Speaker 1: I got the phone man, you know, we stay up
Speaker 1: the smoke. We got the phone that you put the
Speaker 1: phone line in here, put the phone line in there.
Speaker 1: So it used to be in Dame office every day.
Speaker 1: So then we're chilling in front of um. We saw
Speaker 1: walking past Dame offer. They're like, what's up? So they
Speaker 1: walked past, so they're like, yo, where the fund? Y'all
Speaker 1: keep going down there and they're like, no, we got
Speaker 1: the office. So Nig's like, how the fund you get office?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, we it was just closet space. We
Speaker 1: put some dusk in there. We caught some hire some interns.
Speaker 1: So niggas is like that's I said, look, look, look
Speaker 1: I see nigga's faces. Don't funk with this ship. Man,
Speaker 1: y'all could have been did this ship? Seemed like it's
Speaker 1: been for years. I remember the niggas sparks from state
Speaker 1: property coming there, like, how the fun him come in
Speaker 1: here and get a fucking office already? How the niggas
Speaker 1: getting officers and orders other ship? And I'm like, yo, bro,
Speaker 1: y'all y'all in this situation that I was, But y'all
Speaker 1: in a better situation, y'all being taken care of. I
Speaker 1: don't really want to be taken care of. I know
Speaker 1: what's going on. Now, I don't need to wait for
Speaker 1: Dame to say do this and do that. And I'm
Speaker 1: an asset and not saying there was a liability. But
Speaker 1: I'm coming with ship already done. I got jerked my
Speaker 1: first couple of albums, as far as I'm concerned. So
Speaker 1: now I know what to do. So Nigger started taking
Speaker 1: heat and that, like Kim got the office, got secretaries
Speaker 1: and all this ship out out out. I'm like, all right, whatever, man,
Speaker 1: I don't really care about nobody feeling, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I told Dame. I said, Yo, look
Speaker 1: I got this Dipper mass ship going on. You wanna
Speaker 1: funk with it? Let me know. He's like, yo, Kim, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mayn't even come out, Yeah, you got the children.
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, you don't really be out like I'm out.
Speaker 1: We're building a buzz bro something coming outside. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: not not like that. I ain't want to playing. But
Speaker 1: I'm telling him he don't know what's going on. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, you you need to jump on this
Speaker 1: pause before get crazy. He like, Kim, you didn't even
Speaker 1: put your ship out yet. I said, I ain't cool,
Speaker 1: No problem going my man. Kevin Love's office, I said, yo,
Speaker 1: when he played my artist Jewels played the song players
Speaker 1: dipping that project, and he said, I wanted I want
Speaker 1: to sign the whole Diplomat ship. I said, back, this
Speaker 1: is this is right after Dame isn't paid it for
Speaker 1: or not. Excuse me hard knock like screaming on Kevins
Speaker 1: for giving one of his artists death Jam jacket. So
Speaker 1: this is after this, yeah continue yeah, so yeah, so
Speaker 1: so so Dame is like, I mean, Kevin is like better,
Speaker 1: I want everything, I said. I had my lawyer's called
Speaker 1: we get all this ship together. So the next day
Speaker 1: I give Dame the courtesy. I said. Look, I said, yo,
Speaker 1: I know i'm your artists, but I'm about to do
Speaker 1: a joint venture deal with death Jam, with Juels and
Speaker 1: diplomats and all that. He's like, what we are you
Speaker 1: talking about? What are you talking about? I said, let's
Speaker 1: calm down. I said, I said, you're going crazy. Said
Speaker 1: you gotta calm down. Bro I bought it to you first.
Speaker 1: You told me to chill. Now I'm about to do this.
Speaker 1: Oh not kevitist doing that, because now he's doing that
Speaker 1: to make me mad, I said, bro. Man the Nigga's
Speaker 1: jewels is nice. I tried to tell you this man, No, no, no,
Speaker 1: we're going down in there. I grabbed. I said, we're
Speaker 1: not going down there there. You're not gonna sunk this money.
Speaker 1: He said, if if the deal don't go through, I'll
Speaker 1: give you the money postget him. I said, right now,
Speaker 1: we could go there. Yeah, like a mill on the table,
Speaker 1: close to the mill. So I'm like, yo, we go
Speaker 1: down there. He goes yelling, call. I'm looking at Kevin.
Speaker 1: I got a good relations I want to seem like
Speaker 1: I told now you're trying to gas him up. Now
Speaker 1: that doing doing gonna do this deal only to make
Speaker 1: me mad. Kevin is like, Dame, I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: make you mad. I like the kids. Who else? I
Speaker 1: like the diplomat ship. I want to funk with it. Now,
Speaker 1: you're just going crazy. You would. It's going through Rockefeller.
Speaker 1: It's going through Rockefeller. Kevin's like, Dame. If it goes
Speaker 1: through death m or it goes through Rocket Feller, I
Speaker 1: get the same salary. It doesn't matter who it goes through.
Speaker 1: So if you wanted to go through there, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's going through us. So now we get the deal.
Speaker 1: You know, end up going through Damian Dame argue because
Speaker 1: I got a blunt roller from Peru. Man, I'm so
Speaker 1: nah so the nigger um. So the deal was taking
Speaker 1: a while. It took like a month when it was
Speaker 1: could of took a week. So now me and dam
Speaker 1: is going getting into it. I'm like, bro, I got
Speaker 1: ship to do. Man like, yo, you're holding me up.
Speaker 1: He's like, yo, Man, this down the third I said, look,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need a nine hundred thousand because you told
Speaker 1: me if this deal don't go through, you're gonna give
Speaker 1: me the bread. So, long story short, the bread came
Speaker 1: next week. So we got the deal and then duels
Speaker 1: was signed. There, diplomats was signed. There. Now was Juel
Speaker 1: signed directly to def dam No he signed, He signed
Speaker 1: a diplomat and I had a drink venture with through
Speaker 1: rocket Feller with def Jam, but he was gonna be
Speaker 1: signed through diplomat no matter what to def Jam. Dame
Speaker 1: just wanted the rocket Feller logo on the deal as well.
Speaker 1: It's still a drint venture deal for me, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I remember you was you was
Speaker 1: shopping duels to violated offices. Remember that, Yeah, I remember
Speaker 1: for I think me buster rhymes and Chris like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember that. That's so how did you know? You?
Speaker 1: And Jim Jones story as well documented how how you
Speaker 1: guys mad, how you guys go up together and been free?
Speaker 1: But Joel's was a later on edition. Correct, well, Joel
Speaker 1: was one of my second album. Yeah, you know. As
Speaker 1: soon as I left that, I ran into him, like
Speaker 1: my my best friend in elementary school basically was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got this kid this hot, and I got my
Speaker 1: ship together. At the time, I'm like, I don't really
Speaker 1: want to listen nobody. Time. I get my ship together,
Speaker 1: and I fell asleep on my car. He was dropping
Speaker 1: my car, and when I woke up, Juel was in
Speaker 1: my back seat. He's like, just to came, I'm telling
Speaker 1: you about. I'm like, yo, bro, what are you doing this?
Speaker 1: It's weird, don't know what woke up? No, I woke up.
Speaker 1: He's like, this is Nick I'm telling you about. But
Speaker 1: I told him I didn't want to meet him because
Speaker 1: I'm like, my ship wasn't right. So when he woke up,
Speaker 1: I'm and now I'm like, why did you do this?
Speaker 1: So I'm like, yeah, you're already in the car rap
Speaker 1: and when he wrapped, he was super, HOWD. I'm like,
Speaker 1: this kid, it's tough. So I'm writing them to the
Speaker 1: studio and we started working on s D album. He's like,
Speaker 1: actually on two songs on s D album. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: he's been with me since he's like fifteen, sixteen years old.
Speaker 1: You know, he didn't want to go to school because
Speaker 1: he went to school and watch his heights and he
Speaker 1: said his teachers didn't speak English and he couldn't understand him. Yeah. Man,
Speaker 1: so I made him write that's that. But that's how
Speaker 1: you've been up. I said, that's how long you've been down.
Speaker 1: Since he's fifteen years old. Sixteen. Yeah, he's going act
Speaker 1: on the Instagram all the time. He making you the
Speaker 1: man on Instagram brother right now. He told me I
Speaker 1: gotta respect his fan base. Yeah, that's Mr pod Man. Well,
Speaker 1: can't keep a pot man. That's so you've just the
Speaker 1: same same time about so obviously, the first time I
Speaker 1: met you was it was a freestyle session. You know,
Speaker 1: we said, we said, dn D, I believe you. I
Speaker 1: just don't remember the actual particulars of that, but that
Speaker 1: freestyle and it was you, Mace and Car that that
Speaker 1: was a dn D Studios, So that was you remember
Speaker 1: studios that that as Unique Studios and that's the only
Speaker 1: studio we come for. Yeah, you know that was like
Speaker 1: that was like the step up of D and D.
Speaker 1: But it's not right track, it's not due. I think
Speaker 1: he used to plant the roaches in there. Thing used
Speaker 1: to come like. But so for me, I mean, and
Speaker 1: you had a relationship. But that was you and Mace
Speaker 1: and Car that I had always thought, y'all, I was
Speaker 1: a group. I thought that was Harlem World right then
Speaker 1: the children in the corner, No, that that's the way
Speaker 1: before n you know, it's crazy. I was doing you
Speaker 1: know what. I'm in the middle doing my dock and
Speaker 1: they fly the moving pieces. You know that need to
Speaker 1: be explained, like sooner the corner was big el Ship
Speaker 1: and me my God blesses that my man blood Shed
Speaker 1: and the producer Digger kind of ran with the name.
Speaker 1: But Big I was trying to put the crew together
Speaker 1: and it was like Nicks from the Bronx and from Queens,
Speaker 1: Nicks from all over. So niggas didn't see each other
Speaker 1: every day like me blood and Digging this so and
Speaker 1: her McGruff too. So we kept the name. So but
Speaker 1: Farst caught in Mace and whatever and me called in
Speaker 1: and Mace, yeah, you know, Make got the deal with
Speaker 1: bad Boy. He was running around with them with Mace
Speaker 1: and you know, doing these free styles to clue freestyles everything.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, absolutely, So we always hanging run around with Mace,
Speaker 1: and Mace got this deal and uh we Mace had
Speaker 1: Hall and World. He wanted to name in Halloworld. So
Speaker 1: when he got his deal, he ended up getting uh
Speaker 1: label deal from Jamaine Duprie and a joint venture Hall
Speaker 1: and World. So so deaf because so Jamaine du Pre
Speaker 1: missed out on signing Makes he wanted to That's what
Speaker 1: makes want to sign with Originally the main du Pre
Speaker 1: missed out on it, so he doubled back to do
Speaker 1: the label dere and Mace was giving out. He was
Speaker 1: recruiting niggas in the group and nobody really robbed. It
Speaker 1: was like, even as my brother you got how the
Speaker 1: six how wasn't no rapper? You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I like I write it for him, sugar j He
Speaker 1: ain't no rapper. His sister not no rapper. Loon just
Speaker 1: started rapping at the time. I believe I don't want
Speaker 1: to tell what Loon started, but he was just coming
Speaker 1: on the scene as a rapper. And then they got
Speaker 1: nigger named men know who really did rap. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: we could write these niggas because we're thinking the niggas
Speaker 1: who want to selling. So I believe we got deal
Speaker 1: for two million dollars. He was getting everybody ten thousand dollars,
Speaker 1: so he's about to get me ten thousands. I'm like,
Speaker 1: hold on, I'm not part of the ten thousand dollar crew.
Speaker 1: I'm writing the fucking souls and ship like, what the
Speaker 1: fund is the ten thousand? No? No, So he started
Speaker 1: like IRV and not picking the phone up in all
Speaker 1: this others, and I'm like, no, I got the bust moves.
Speaker 1: I'm not that how you wanna get meet ten thousand.
Speaker 1: I'm writing the songs or write niggas versus and you're
Speaker 1: giving the niggas who don't write rhymes or anything like
Speaker 1: that the same amount. This math is not right for me,
Speaker 1: So I end up just started doing my own thing.
Speaker 1: I have to kurt that situation. So where did y'all
Speaker 1: go wrong? Then? That I'm seeing? So me and Mace
Speaker 1: Mason do a lot, a lot of little ship that
Speaker 1: that I don't really always gotta be talked about, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But he'll do little ship like
Speaker 1: call me randomly and be like, yo, meeting. We speak
Speaker 1: a couple of years and he'll be like, YO, meet
Speaker 1: me here. I'll be like, I bet. I give an example.
Speaker 1: This one example, he calls me out the blue one
Speaker 1: day randomly. This is on tape, my man tape. He's like, YO,
Speaker 1: meet me or two five. I ain spet him a
Speaker 1: couple of years. I like, I bet this probably two
Speaker 1: thousand eight, probably two thousand and eight years or something
Speaker 1: like that. You like, meet me on her twin fifth
Speaker 1: from like bad I meet him. We talk. He's like,
Speaker 1: y'all gotta go to funk Flex car show. Let's go together.
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, cool, I gotta do something. He's like,
Speaker 1: I gotta do something too. He tells me, you'll meet
Speaker 1: me on her forty ninety by the gas stations. All right, cool,
Speaker 1: go over there. He don't pick the phone up, called
Speaker 1: me back. Oh I'm bugging. I'm boy River Park towers.
Speaker 1: All right, Cool? I go over there. Yeah, yeah, he
Speaker 1: don't because consoles in West sester Side. He don't pick up.
Speaker 1: So now me, howey, it's a few other nigs be like,
Speaker 1: it's this niga doing this again. So we go to
Speaker 1: the car show, like let's see if the cars he did.
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, ship, y'all, what y'all doing here? Y'all good?
Speaker 1: This nothing? And so me like, yeah, why you gottas
Speaker 1: running around the city and ship? He like, come on,
Speaker 1: I know y'all not bugging over that. And I'm like, yea,
Speaker 1: all y'at do that. You don't fucking me. But that's
Speaker 1: it's a bunch of that. It's like if a nigga
Speaker 1: keeps talking you on your side a honey, times you're
Speaker 1: just gonna slap them. So that it's that ship happens
Speaker 1: a million times. That little story right there. I can't
Speaker 1: even tell you how many different times that happens. And
Speaker 1: just get to the like like like I said, like
Speaker 1: we do our research and where the artists come. We
Speaker 1: listen to the music. And when I'm listening to music,
Speaker 1: it's even on Welcome to New York City is like
Speaker 1: you said, I'm gonna give what you said, Uh May Scott,
Speaker 1: he ran to Atlanta, So I can tell us like
Speaker 1: something that was it the Horse and Carriage video because
Speaker 1: you know what, I was in the Horse and Carriage video.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. Fifty cent told me he's in the water too.
Speaker 1: Birds said he's in the in the video in the water.
Speaker 1: Bird says a lot of modees in that video. Therson
Speaker 1: Carriage video show. I'm talk about you cheated me in basket.
Speaker 1: We've been talking about that later. But um, definitely, definitely
Speaker 1: these all the niggas turned different. Like once it was
Speaker 1: time of wait basketball, they put on goggles coming out
Speaker 1: blow tried it out of nowhere, but get bat of
Speaker 1: that later. But so's that like a shot to your face,
Speaker 1: like when you know y'all boys right, And you know
Speaker 1: I had to get learned that lesson to where a
Speaker 1: person said, you know what, you gotta pay me, like
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, we're coming up? And
Speaker 1: what was that? Was that a lesson? Like what what?
Speaker 1: Because I guess that was the rumor that he wanted
Speaker 1: to be paid or something and he said it on
Speaker 1: that day. That's the reason why he didn't show up. No,
Speaker 1: I think I wasn't tripping off that under number was
Speaker 1: more mad about it, you know, because they felt they
Speaker 1: other business they did with Mason everything else and so
Speaker 1: on and so forth, that Mace wanted Bread to do
Speaker 1: another song on my album. I didn't get really triple
Speaker 1: off that they undt. I was trying to plant that
Speaker 1: my head, like how your man charging you? How they
Speaker 1: stand the third And I'm sitting there like I ain't
Speaker 1: tripping because I'm me. You know, I would have been
Speaker 1: doping for his there, but I knew what I was
Speaker 1: destined to do, so I wasn't tripping. But you know
Speaker 1: that was more in Jacob York being mad about that
Speaker 1: than I was. I wasn't. But you didn't feel nothing
Speaker 1: like because you know, I mean, you could have showed up,
Speaker 1: but I wasn't gonna crowd. But I turned out good.
Speaker 1: You know, it turned out real good. But I I'm
Speaker 1: more upset. Well, I was more upset over the ship.
Speaker 1: I just told you. Yeah, like yeah, like yeah, the
Speaker 1: music like my nigga because you know, at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, Mace, but I tell the nigger's two
Speaker 1: and I don't really hold accountable like fastest right, you
Speaker 1: know a nigger right now, definitely right there. Let's say
Speaker 1: they're thirty five years old. If you give a nigga
Speaker 1: two hundred thousand right now just is nigga you know
Speaker 1: on the hud or whatever. They might lose their mind
Speaker 1: because they never had that much money at one time.
Speaker 1: Like I know a nigger now there's thirty three skim
Speaker 1: hut one time, he's gonna go crazy smoking cigarettes exactly that.
Speaker 1: So Mace was twenty two years old, triple platinum, probably
Speaker 1: ten million dollars, and still trying to be in the hood,
Speaker 1: like you know that ship you look back on because
Speaker 1: you know me. You know you're year older than me.
Speaker 1: But at that point you'd be like, yo, why are
Speaker 1: you doing this? While you're doing that, You're like, nigged lord,
Speaker 1: you might lose your mind with ten million dollars three
Speaker 1: years old. You get what I'm saying. You ever felt
Speaker 1: you you went Hollywood like I ain't got a lot
Speaker 1: ninety eight, I might have went to far. Did I
Speaker 1: ever feel like I want? Yeah, like I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: like when I hit flatting, I didn't know how to do.
Speaker 1: I was with two. I felt I was Hollywood before
Speaker 1: I was anybody saying, like my com from that say
Speaker 1: go up, I wake up this morning. I talked to
Speaker 1: myself in a mirathon ten minutes where I leave my
Speaker 1: house and telling myself, I'm that nigga. Me my ship,
Speaker 1: nigga walk in on me, like Yo, what's going on?
Speaker 1: I'm like, Yo, do that ship? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I practice out with my how walk like I walk
Speaker 1: on the treadmill, practice, I walk up on the block
Speaker 1: nigga because I feel I'm that nigga, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I ain't really feel no way about
Speaker 1: nothing that ship. But I never I felt I was
Speaker 1: Hollywood before I was Hollywood and I have a dollar
Speaker 1: but you know what I mean, Do I have Hollywood
Speaker 1: with my niggas? No? No, I mean did you ever
Speaker 1: like you know, Um, I had to be brought down,
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, Like, you know, just
Speaker 1: sometimes just being a man in the world and just realizing,
Speaker 1: like you know what this is, just this is just
Speaker 1: famous like that, and I had to like you ain't
Speaker 1: never have had that problem, humble, Yeah, nor haven't because
Speaker 1: it's just like yo, because you know what, like for instance, right,
Speaker 1: certain niggas they gotta wear jewelry every day or whatever.
Speaker 1: You know, if it's something to do, I'm gonna get flyer.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna step up. I'm gonna show you I dressed
Speaker 1: better than you, but I'm gonna show you my swag better.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you can't compete, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: If I need to do. But I'm going to this store,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put on a regular T shirt. Might gotta
Speaker 1: holding it from my ashes or anything else. And I'm
Speaker 1: still gonna talk to you how I want to talk
Speaker 1: to you, because I don't feel I need none of
Speaker 1: this ship to be the person I am. You get
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But when it's time to show up
Speaker 1: and show out, wonder all that too. But that's just
Speaker 1: my attitude. I come from my harsh neighborhood. Man, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And when I say hard, I'm
Speaker 1: talking about the joke harsh. It's like they joke real harsh,
Speaker 1: like the jokes and ship. You may feel like it's
Speaker 1: not a joke, you know what I'm saying, Like it's real,
Speaker 1: like like Big Alt two, he's a funny nigger, that's
Speaker 1: my man. And I'll be like, yo, this, these jokes
Speaker 1: are not funny if they just somebody else. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I knew, you know, give reason we outside,
Speaker 1: somebody knew how the ship back on and they arguing
Speaker 1: with somebody else that I know, And my man was like, yo,
Speaker 1: change your ship back. You stick in the middle of
Speaker 1: an argument. But it was cool injury like someone that
Speaker 1: he got stabbed up ship mad metically and he's outside talking,
Speaker 1: et cetera. But nigga snapping and nigga just like yore
Speaker 1: changing ship back, you stick like ya. It's a harsh
Speaker 1: thing to say, and they just kept it moving. But
Speaker 1: I used to be like ya, this is this is
Speaker 1: ruw and this is fucked up over here, like the
Speaker 1: way they talked that niggas. You know, you got out
Speaker 1: that shell growing up because you don't even know what
Speaker 1: nigg is gonna talk about. You had a record with
Speaker 1: Wayne Younna suck it or not? Record went crazy, but
Speaker 1: he did. He wasn't at the video. What happened with
Speaker 1: that one. I didn't really shoot a video for that.
Speaker 1: It wasn't half went into that joint. No, that was
Speaker 1: not the only thing I did for a second. A
Speaker 1: matter of fact, I did shoot the video for sucking
Speaker 1: nine went to wet White. Um. I don't remember. But
Speaker 1: the keeping their hunting Um, Bootsy and Webby was on
Speaker 1: that song first. You know what I'm saying, shout to
Speaker 1: Booty and Webby. You know what. Yeah, it was released
Speaker 1: some type of way, but Wayne heard it and you know,
Speaker 1: Top my Squids Asylum, they wanted to put Wayne on it,
Speaker 1: and um, it was a last minute decision before we
Speaker 1: you know, and ended up mastering the album or whatever.
Speaker 1: But the song originally was Bootsy and Webby and they
Speaker 1: was originally on it. But um, you know, Wayne, Wayne
Speaker 1: is a fan and it came out. I don't even
Speaker 1: want to sit here and say how or why, But regardless,
Speaker 1: I'm not big on if you show up to the
Speaker 1: video you did the song, thank you, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But Wayne, my man. Today I called Wayne
Speaker 1: Wayne one of them niggas just gonna send a record
Speaker 1: back before the sun. You know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 1: worked fast, so definitely, how was it at the time
Speaker 1: we made a song called about About It. Um didn't
Speaker 1: go to New Orleans a lot, so a lot of
Speaker 1: people didn't know how important you was doing about about
Speaker 1: It and remaking that. How was that working with master
Speaker 1: here at that time? It was dope? That was what
Speaker 1: what happened was I was a fan of the South always.
Speaker 1: I went to school in Texas, you know, family in South.
Speaker 1: But not only that, I traveled lived outside of New York.
Speaker 1: I lived in Ohio, I lived in Chicago. And I
Speaker 1: see how big of a fact our artists had, Like
Speaker 1: New York niggas. Our mentality is we the biggest niggers
Speaker 1: in the world. Pause, But when you go out of town,
Speaker 1: niggers don't really care too much about all that New
Speaker 1: York ship. They got their own ship going on. So
Speaker 1: I always respected that being able to travel, and me
Speaker 1: and masr P we end up sitting on the flight
Speaker 1: next to each other and we just talked the whole flight,
Speaker 1: and um, I was like, yeah, I want to remake
Speaker 1: your record. He liked bet and we did it. And
Speaker 1: he owns that master correct for my soul about his
Speaker 1: own Yeah, yeah, he could only do it. He could
Speaker 1: clear Yeah, he cleared it for me. So we did
Speaker 1: the song and it was cool. Jim didn't like it.
Speaker 1: Jim directed the video not just only in light and
Speaker 1: that's he was super cool when we shot the video.
Speaker 1: But I guess when they're doing b ROW, I wasn't
Speaker 1: there for everything. He was screaming on Jim. I guess
Speaker 1: because it was taking time and stupid. I we're four
Speaker 1: hundred million. They got me standing out here, and Jim
Speaker 1: was like, it's hard to work with this guy four
Speaker 1: millions in fitness. That another park on a hund fifty
Speaker 1: first by Joels, but first Amsterdam. And now it's like
Speaker 1: there were so many kids outside, but you know, you
Speaker 1: do the big scene with everybody, so I gotta beat
Speaker 1: it all time. Jim taking them to do little b
Speaker 1: road shots to this, and I guess they took time
Speaker 1: to set the camera and he just kept screaming this
Speaker 1: four hundred millions shot out and niggas just holding him
Speaker 1: up and he got shipped to do in order because
Speaker 1: Jim kept calling me like, Yo, this sniker keeps telling
Speaker 1: me you got four billion and he ain't got time
Speaker 1: for this ship. You say, you said I got four
Speaker 1: on a minute, what do we do? What do you say?
Speaker 1: Stay patient? We need it, you know, we need it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we need this look. So that's what happened. Who was
Speaker 1: the eldest person that you told you there was a
Speaker 1: fan of you that you was like it was personal study,
Speaker 1: all right, So it's a dope story. Right. So my
Speaker 1: first album, my first album is not even out yet,
Speaker 1: and we're in the airport. It's me and a couple
Speaker 1: of my niggers and Laurd Fishburne walked past, just randomly
Speaker 1: like We're like, oh shit, fucking Laurence Fritshburn. We don't
Speaker 1: have no album, so we like talking to see Laurence Fishburn.
Speaker 1: He's like, yo, man, he loved Lauren Frishburn. No HOMEO.
Speaker 1: So jim is sitting there. Jimmy's like, y'all, I was
Speaker 1: in choice of Russ And if you call him Larry,
Speaker 1: he loses his mind. He don't like to be called Larry.
Speaker 1: So my man is an ask. So he died, I'm
Speaker 1: in Fast Show and got blessed to day. He like, yo,
Speaker 1: Larry just yeah, he looked to be like he looked.
Speaker 1: He's like yo, I said, what's up, Larry? Ship. So
Speaker 1: Laurence Fishburn stops and walks over and says, what you
Speaker 1: just called me? Is that the airport? Yes? Yes? And
Speaker 1: the airport He's like, what did you call me? He's like,
Speaker 1: I said, what's uping Larry? What's was happening? So we're like, yo,
Speaker 1: we fans this stand the third he tuned in us out.
Speaker 1: He's like, yo, why are you calling me like? He said,
Speaker 1: because that ship name. He said, my name is Lawrence.
Speaker 1: He said, your name is Larry. Hilarious. I'll get it.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you this, just this story, so about
Speaker 1: to do research on it. His name was Larry when
Speaker 1: he was young, but then after hire learning he changed
Speaker 1: at the Lawrence I guess Larry's will and niggery and
Speaker 1: then he did learning and he said he want to
Speaker 1: be like proper Black, the Matrix and all this ship.
Speaker 1: So anyway, he like, man, fuck you. He teld my
Speaker 1: men that we like yo, don't listen to him. Jim
Speaker 1: and just did a scene on New York Undercover as
Speaker 1: an extra and he active say, Jim was like an
Speaker 1: extra New York Uncle last side, you know, no album out.
Speaker 1: He's promoting ship. So he walks off. You're like, yo,
Speaker 1: why you do that? Sean like, what's wrong with you?
Speaker 1: Like man funk that your name is Larry. So we're chilling,
Speaker 1: like ten minutes later, this nigga come back. It's sitting
Speaker 1: next to us, be like, yo, man, don't worry about him.
Speaker 1: He now he overre my man is Sean over there
Speaker 1: be like, yo, man, we fished. Jim like, I'm like,
Speaker 1: my man was just on New York going to cover
Speaker 1: if you can help us out with the little active ship,
Speaker 1: need a little kig and all that ship. You're like,
Speaker 1: I'm not helping you all, and be like what's wrong? Man?
Speaker 1: He like you with somebody who keep calling me Larry.
Speaker 1: My man leaned over and say your name is laughing
Speaker 1: and don't ask me again, Lord Fishburn, get up, get out,
Speaker 1: taking his wallet out, put in my men face. What
Speaker 1: does that say? My man is like, I don't care
Speaker 1: what he's say. Your name's Lay. So we're like, yo,
Speaker 1: fuck him. Then I'm about to be a rapper. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying snigger. My man is acting to stand the
Speaker 1: third yo, so the Maura fisherroom. Wow. So he says, yo,
Speaker 1: stop acting me for help. Man. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: funk that I'm not helping y'all. Just think you gotta understand.
Speaker 1: So now Jimmy's basically begging Lord Fishburn. Now I'm like,
Speaker 1: are you fuck you? Get the funk out of here,
Speaker 1: like kissing your ass and man, fuck you matter fact,
Speaker 1: I'm about to swing on you. So Frishburn like you
Speaker 1: backed up. This nigga pulls some gloves out of his
Speaker 1: pocket and put on his gloves. So I'm like, I
Speaker 1: looked at my man team, I'm like, you're about to
Speaker 1: jump this nigga. He just looked and walked off off
Speaker 1: like the like a movie like just walked off into
Speaker 1: the ship. And I'm like, my man showing like you
Speaker 1: an asshole. I said, I got tired of kissing his ass.
Speaker 1: He was like, nah, he was on the verge of
Speaker 1: snuffing me. Man, I'm just gonna fall out, fun up everything, brother,
Speaker 1: I said, I can't take it no more anyway. Fast
Speaker 1: forward to answer your question, my man is driving my
Speaker 1: pink range over one day at hall On like stuff
Speaker 1: like like yeah, so yeah like fish Lawrence like whatever,
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, camera Pink range over. He's like yes,
Speaker 1: my man, he said, Yo, tell that guy love his music. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm a big fucking fan of camera man. You let
Speaker 1: him know that. And I'm like, Lawrence don't even know that.
Speaker 1: I was listening the airport like fucking six years ago
Speaker 1: that she was going crazy because Nikka called you Larry.
Speaker 1: Now you're a fan of my music, My nigga, Look
Speaker 1: look at that my nigga. So that's a person who
Speaker 1: I would say is a fan who basically shipped on us,
Speaker 1: to us to kick rocks and get the funk out
Speaker 1: of here because my man was going crazy on that.
Speaker 1: Make some noy for that guy, Laurence I was. I
Speaker 1: was scared. Now, I don't call him yea man. You
Speaker 1: don't like Larry, you want to be Laurus. So so
Speaker 1: I imagine growing up being from all from all, being
Speaker 1: from New York City, you had to be fans of
Speaker 1: Jay and not. But at one point you was at
Speaker 1: odds with Jay and Not. I mean, which one you
Speaker 1: want to talk about first? If you if you don't
Speaker 1: matter either. So all right, let's say j J for instance,
Speaker 1: because you were at Rocket Feller and this is you
Speaker 1: leaving Rocket Feller or exiting Rocket Feller. Just these records
Speaker 1: that pop up now. But what happened was I believe
Speaker 1: Dame was gonna make me the president of the Rocket Feller.
Speaker 1: This is his office. That was just that has to
Speaker 1: do with this office he was talking about earlier. No,
Speaker 1: we just house. That wasn't the same time and he
Speaker 1: was the president. It never really came before wishing me
Speaker 1: being a president being an actually president. He wanted to
Speaker 1: make me a president, Okay, and I don't think he
Speaker 1: talked to j about that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So like when i ainked some bust it and me
Speaker 1: and Jake Cool were just on the sky Zoom call
Speaker 1: like a week ago. So this just stories. Me and
Speaker 1: Jain't got no problems. We're super cool. So by the way,
Speaker 1: I thought, I'm gonna take it with me. No, no,
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. So. Um, Basically, when I got the
Speaker 1: rocket feller, you know, I tried to ingratiate myself with
Speaker 1: everybody because I don't know what that means. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to be cool whatever I'm trying to say. They
Speaker 1: already have something going and trying to be cool with
Speaker 1: everybody because y'all got your own thing, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I don't want to come in here and
Speaker 1: seem like I'm stepping on toes or whatever. So I'm
Speaker 1: cool with everybody. You know, Hey, this down the third
Speaker 1: and you know Jay Jay is a competitor, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So me coming there, I don't know
Speaker 1: this was dame situation and say something that he did,
Speaker 1: so you know, um, first thing is happened. I bought
Speaker 1: Kay Slay up there, and I guess I didn't know
Speaker 1: he was mad at Kase Slave because kse Slay musts
Speaker 1: to play Eta at the time, and he was mad
Speaker 1: at now for Ether and Order. Never heard this story. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. You can tell you what happened. You
Speaker 1: got ask Kate slept. So I wait a minute, run
Speaker 1: case Lay up to baseline. Yeah, okay, this is after
Speaker 1: case Slag. He definitely voted for NAS either, remember this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so bordom up there because you know we're using case
Speaker 1: Slay the hostid mixtape. So Kay came up there, boom.
Speaker 1: Jay wasn't there. But as I'm leaving, Jay is in
Speaker 1: the lobby of Baseline, So I want k to the elevator,
Speaker 1: and I guess they said Jay and jay Z said
Speaker 1: what's up whatever? So I walked back and he said, Yo,
Speaker 1: you gotta be careful who you're bringing around here. He
Speaker 1: might have just slapped the ship out of Case Slang.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, wait, what's going on, man? And you know,
Speaker 1: I don't even know what's going on. He's like he's like,
Speaker 1: he's like, yo, just saying be careful all right, cool,
Speaker 1: this your house. Ain't that no problem with that? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's all good. Cool, we're building
Speaker 1: buzz up. I'm like, yo, Jay in the studio, I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: we might want to hop on his record. We're building
Speaker 1: the buzz and he'll just look like, okay, that's cute,
Speaker 1: Like he didn't say that, but he's like okay. I'm like,
Speaker 1: ain't cool. Cool. I don't know what's going on, but whatever,
Speaker 1: So um, I start heating up, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And he like, yo, we seeming you know, you can
Speaker 1: tell us some tension. So one day I come to
Speaker 1: the studio. You're like, yo, it seemed like it's some
Speaker 1: tension in here. Yea, yeah to me, I'm talking. I
Speaker 1: don't know if exact words, but he says something going on.
Speaker 1: I just want to let you know. I see all
Speaker 1: niggers rocking. I ain't got no problem. Were all good,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I'm like, bad, um
Speaker 1: just got a song up right now, you know, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's just do it now. And he's like, back, so
Speaker 1: we did the song room, So I said, yo, the song.
Speaker 1: He know we might could do the video He like, okay,
Speaker 1: we back to that cool so that that happened, then
Speaker 1: back to all we're saying about I'm starting to do
Speaker 1: bus moves or whatever. Because there was that. There was
Speaker 1: a ja the verse on Old Boy, and you might
Speaker 1: tell you that. So Pete Crap, nobody's fucking Pete Crap,
Speaker 1: Stay Property, nobody, Peddy Crack. I was gonna fun with
Speaker 1: Speedy Crap. He had the song one for Pete Crap. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was this on myself. I put me in jewels
Speaker 1: on it. Taking the Dame like about the fun, He like,
Speaker 1: he fulfilled you to funk with Stay Property. I'm like,
Speaker 1: why everything I gotta be so philly, this holmness. I
Speaker 1: don't think I heard the story Pete Cracker story. Don't
Speaker 1: even need to drink it's on flat. He told the
Speaker 1: story on VLAG. I already knew how I went anyway,
Speaker 1: But he tells the story. So day in the studio
Speaker 1: he said he got this hot song. You know, because
Speaker 1: he wasn't signing State Property. I was working with him.
Speaker 1: He come to New York or whatever, and I was
Speaker 1: gonna sign him, but Dame was like, I was gonna
Speaker 1: suck up ful Philly and all this ship, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: so Pete was was like, it's a situation with Bothyard's right,
Speaker 1: by the way, Yeah, Dame is right, and you were right.
Speaker 1: This is a situation. But continue. So he's property but
Speaker 1: it's seeming like that, but he's not. So he's like,
Speaker 1: I'm not signing him niggas camp. So we did the song,
Speaker 1: so he played. Pete's playing the song for jay Z
Speaker 1: whoever else in the studio and like I said, Pete,
Speaker 1: Pete crack story is on flack. He talks about a
Speaker 1: couple of interviews. I already knew how it went though,
Speaker 1: but we don't mention the other outlets. Yeah, so he's
Speaker 1: playing sorry about that. So he's especially that they apologize
Speaker 1: a couple of videos. He he a couple of the
Speaker 1: interviews he mentioned this. So he says he's in the
Speaker 1: studio playing it and my verse come on and j say,
Speaker 1: stopping erased that ship and just erased my whole verse.
Speaker 1: So Pete calls me, he like, you're saying the original
Speaker 1: one for Pete? You're on there, would you? Yes, pets
Speaker 1: in the studio actually plays director. No, this is what happened.
Speaker 1: I used to go to Philly. I has Salon and Philly.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So so one night after
Speaker 1: you know, check on my business and Philly, I go
Speaker 1: to a club, this DJ Koreyak I think his name was,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, in the hole in the wall and
Speaker 1: PT Crack is performing in this hole in the war
Speaker 1: and the whole club is going crazy. So I went
Speaker 1: up to him in Meadow. I'm like, yo, what's up here?
Speaker 1: Like now you know beans just down the third and
Speaker 1: then I funk with everybody. You know, there were those
Speaker 1: with his niggas. So then a week or two later
Speaker 1: I went to I don't know at the time when
Speaker 1: we go to Philly radio station and he's outside the
Speaker 1: radio station. Yeah, he's outside the radio station, and he like,
Speaker 1: chill her, what's up man? I'm like, I thought you
Speaker 1: with state property? Me like, game ain't signing Damon's there.
Speaker 1: He's like, they main't sign me nothing. I'm like, word,
Speaker 1: so that record you there still not send it to me?
Speaker 1: Wasn't sending that some type of way? He gave me
Speaker 1: a CD I think I had, and I did it
Speaker 1: and gave it to him. He came there, used to
Speaker 1: come to New York. So when I did it, Dame.
Speaker 1: It's like, yo, hold on, I said, the man said,
Speaker 1: he's not signing y'all. There's nobody. Well, you know we
Speaker 1: was gonna do this and I was gonna do that,
Speaker 1: and I'm like whatever. So then what happened was Dame said, look,
Speaker 1: I guess beans and nothing's like, how can this was
Speaker 1: pt cracks on me? How Kim and them jumping on
Speaker 1: our record on the Philly record bed, Like, I ain't
Speaker 1: know you wanted to do the record. So Dame come
Speaker 1: to me. I guess it was a problem over that
Speaker 1: or whatever. Dame like, Yo, this is what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1: We're gonna put state property on it and keep you
Speaker 1: on it. We're gonna take you els off. I'm like, now,
Speaker 1: didn't take me off to like, I don't understand what's
Speaker 1: going on? Why this is such a big deal, like
Speaker 1: it was gonna takes off and leave you. And I'm like, nah, man,
Speaker 1: I said, well take me off the record to man
Speaker 1: and ain't no problem. You know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: prior to all this video for that song and everything,
Speaker 1: jay Z heard the verse and just eraseing my ship
Speaker 1: to Pete crack erace it or shame whoever was um
Speaker 1: engineering that day. I'm like, what's it's why I'm back
Speaker 1: and energy going on, but we don't give a funk.
Speaker 1: But Cam, I gotta ask because this is very deep.
Speaker 1: Everybody's good, everybody's good. Drink right now, but this is
Speaker 1: this is one facts you know that that happened. You
Speaker 1: know that that if you want, we could pull this interview.
Speaker 1: Pull it up on your phone. We've got people who's
Speaker 1: paid for that. Let's go first. You pull up, pull up,
Speaker 1: Cameron Jewells and Pete crap. It's just called pet ain't
Speaker 1: casting my course for a minute. Ken, Yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 1: you put up, pull up. I don't want to bring it.
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I want to bring Zeke in,
Speaker 1: but I don't want to. You got it, want to
Speaker 1: keep going, you get him all not even be even
Speaker 1: better coming from that. I never heard this story. So
Speaker 1: but I'm saying not the fact that that doesn't exist,
Speaker 1: but the fact that the person that said that Jay
Speaker 1: said to take that verse off. That's really one million percent.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be on your show making no ship. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I mean, I know you
Speaker 1: got a huge ordiance ain't on time, you know, Like
Speaker 1: I said, Jay may I have a different way of
Speaker 1: going about it. But this with Pete Crack said, he's
Speaker 1: like because he wanted to give me a copy, but
Speaker 1: already had a copy. I put it on my mixtape.
Speaker 1: So you saying that to say that to bring it
Speaker 1: to old boy, right, So you know, J one Day
Speaker 1: was like, um yeah, J one Day was like, um, y'all,
Speaker 1: did I did a little son for you in the studio.
Speaker 1: I was coming in through, he was walking out, So
Speaker 1: I'm like, then he had son the old Boy And
Speaker 1: I was like, this is old Boys already number one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's popping, Yeah, this is popping. Yeah, this is the
Speaker 1: rough draft when old boys already lit right you to
Speaker 1: right right. So I listened to it and I was like,
Speaker 1: erased that ship. She did the ship to me. So
Speaker 1: I was like, I race it. That's how the song
Speaker 1: got a race. You know what, just say something as
Speaker 1: a petty nick. Patty like to take back my clothes,
Speaker 1: likes to buy a bit like taking back bringing up here.
Speaker 1: I'm taking that as a petty nick. Yeah, so there
Speaker 1: is no more level deserved, just right like you literally
Speaker 1: he raised the jay Z but yeah, because he raised
Speaker 1: my verse. You know what I'm saying. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So let no not that taking out the
Speaker 1: back and put that paint horse power up there? What
Speaker 1: the big horse power. Let's finish the story. So yeah, so, um,
Speaker 1: that's why a racist verse. And I would love PD
Speaker 1: crack picked the phone up, even pick up. No, I
Speaker 1: just text him. Yeah, so we let somebody say something
Speaker 1: about him. No, make a good presentable. That's via right right,
Speaker 1: that would take me somebody. Yeah. So and it's all natural.
Speaker 1: Um so basically, so bust it right one day and
Speaker 1: that's all After the president ship, Like I said, I
Speaker 1: think that's where ship went bad. That not confirming with
Speaker 1: j about Dames saying making me the president. I went
Speaker 1: on Rap City and talked about it. And what I
Speaker 1: said was, you know, Dame, this what Dame told me,
Speaker 1: I'll making you president. We're gonna bring beans along further
Speaker 1: when he get it together, Non learn more about the
Speaker 1: business that ya YadA. So I was repeating with Dame
Speaker 1: told me. So one day I come on basely by myself.
Speaker 1: J I went on vacation or some ship. That's why
Speaker 1: he wasn't around the office. So I walked in the
Speaker 1: studio by myself. It's Jay is beans is bleak and
Speaker 1: you know you're walk in the room and you know
Speaker 1: they were just talking about you. Everybody stopped, so I'll
Speaker 1: just walk in. Music not playing no More and nobody
Speaker 1: talking something like and you by yourself by myself. I'm like, so,
Speaker 1: y'all's like nine. So Nikka being said, Yo, kind of
Speaker 1: talk to you for a minute. We go outside of
Speaker 1: the room. I said, what's up. He's like, yo, bro,
Speaker 1: he said, please don't make me look bad on TV
Speaker 1: No More and Data data. I said, what are you
Speaker 1: talking about? He said, now you told me I don't
Speaker 1: know the business and this that in the third I said, yo,
Speaker 1: my nigga ain't trying to make you look bad. I
Speaker 1: just was repeating with Dames said if you feel away,
Speaker 1: I apologize, But that wasn't my attempt to make you
Speaker 1: look bad. He's like, yeah, please man, because I look crazy.
Speaker 1: So I said, okay, I see what's going on in
Speaker 1: this room. Before I walked in. This is kiming them
Speaker 1: got the office, Kim and him, but moves Kim doing
Speaker 1: this without authorization speaking to Jay and being us company.
Speaker 1: You know you could have you could have guest let
Speaker 1: him know whatever. But Jay didn't really come to the office.
Speaker 1: And that's one thing I say about Jay. No matter
Speaker 1: what we had a problem with everything I had to do,
Speaker 1: I had to get six seven signatures, Big Jay, Dane, Leo, Julian,
Speaker 1: Kevin Lows for six signatures. He always signed off on everything,
Speaker 1: but it was good or bad. He wasn't hating or
Speaker 1: anything I was doing. But that's why I race his verse,
Speaker 1: because you know, that's how he raised my verse. And
Speaker 1: then it just became further and it's just the relationships.
Speaker 1: This is what's what's weird. Because after that, you still
Speaker 1: did New York City. To know that was before that,
Speaker 1: oh that was New City was recorded, befoh, I didn't
Speaker 1: know that. Oh like it like it was levels of
Speaker 1: it was levels of And like I said, I just
Speaker 1: think this j As is a person like you gotta
Speaker 1: earn his respect, but see me personally. And I may
Speaker 1: have came in there with the wrong attitude for not
Speaker 1: to me, but just to him thinking because I you know,
Speaker 1: I knew, I knew Jay Z as far as I've
Speaker 1: been in this house from five sixties State Street, not
Speaker 1: respect everything he did before music career. I remember, um,
Speaker 1: what happened. Now he's trying to tell me, try to
Speaker 1: get you to drink like I'm gonna get drink the
Speaker 1: same holding so because basically I remember jay Z used
Speaker 1: to open up form not even open up. He had
Speaker 1: no deal or nothing. They just had money him and
Speaker 1: Dane was getting money and me and Bleek used to
Speaker 1: ride around with them. No, Jay had no deal. We
Speaker 1: just young niggas. I was Damn young man, Bleak was
Speaker 1: j young nigga, and I remember, you know, they had
Speaker 1: the song Coming of Age and Bleek used to perform
Speaker 1: that with them. My mom going to Philly, me Bleak,
Speaker 1: Jay and Dame just in the in their car and
Speaker 1: m G S three hunting and them niggas opening up
Speaker 1: for red Man not part of me, method Man. Methyd
Speaker 1: Man was on top of the world and Damon Jake
Speaker 1: paid to open up. I think Penn State one of
Speaker 1: them colleges to to open up for them niggas, and
Speaker 1: you know it was dope. It wasn't a lot of
Speaker 1: people in the crowd, nothing, but you know it was
Speaker 1: bugged out. Years later when they had the rock the
Speaker 1: mic to methy Man and red Man was opening up
Speaker 1: for fucking jay Z. They was opening that. I was like,
Speaker 1: that's fucking amazing because I'm but these niggas just paying
Speaker 1: to open up. They have no deal, they ain't have
Speaker 1: nothing they have. Brandon said, let us be the opening that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So you know the progression
Speaker 1: of jay Z. I've seen it a lot of it.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not gonna sit there and say you
Speaker 1: got no Ti ti and or be high or source
Speaker 1: money or jazz at any of them niggas. But you know,
Speaker 1: I felt I was close enough to be like, now
Speaker 1: I've seen you grow, my nigga. So when I got there,
Speaker 1: I thought I may have had that same report from
Speaker 1: what we had the ninety four and ninety five or
Speaker 1: whatever years it was, you know what I'm saying, And
Speaker 1: obviously it wasn't that. It wasn't that same relationship. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because I tell niggas on the
Speaker 1: time to time, it's a nigger who made me want
Speaker 1: to get money, Like I got kicked out of college, right,
Speaker 1: I ain't have a dollar. And I remember meeting me
Speaker 1: and Dane went to meet jay Z and ty Ty
Speaker 1: and Jackson holds a restaurant in New York, Hamburgers and
Speaker 1: all that. So he went to meet them one day
Speaker 1: and they have some It was with two checks to me,
Speaker 1: and Dame just pulled up eight with them. So I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: I don't have a dollar I just got Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just got kicked out of college. Yeah, like literally like
Speaker 1: a week after that, and Ty, look, yeah, you know
Speaker 1: he's short, so you're know how old TI tires or whatever,
Speaker 1: and it was time to pay for for the building.
Speaker 1: I'm like this about Dame got me or whatever and
Speaker 1: talk he probably older than me, but I thought he
Speaker 1: was my age and younger. And this nigga pulled out
Speaker 1: a not like this, and I was like, who you fain?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, if nigga is my age like
Speaker 1: this getting this much money, I got to go get
Speaker 1: some money. And he did. Nigga. I swear to guy
Speaker 1: that day. I was like, I'm gonna get money to morrow.
Speaker 1: If I gotta robbing the gotta do whatever. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna my age pulling out this much money he paid
Speaker 1: for everything. That really motivated me to say I don't
Speaker 1: give a funk more and get some money in that week.
Speaker 1: Later I started getting money for that. Not creaky, creaky
Speaker 1: motherfucker ziggy man, what's going on, dude? We think good
Speaker 1: bro'reving around the circle. Calls in the hurricane, don't you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he found it. He did this. I'm connected and we
Speaker 1: need to get pt crack on. You say you don't
Speaker 1: want to promote the I think we should get We
Speaker 1: can't use it though. That's not with me. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: that's crazy. I didn't know that story at all. You're
Speaker 1: not dreak ze right now, right now, right now, I'm freaky. Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't leave along drinks. He don't know how to drink
Speaker 1: for one of two days. It's like a three month
Speaker 1: thing that I'm talking about. Word, no, no, not, it's
Speaker 1: not it's not good. Let's not get stuff. Let me
Speaker 1: stuff just me for me. I'm gonna drink for both
Speaker 1: of y'all. I'm reading for both of y'all. We usually
Speaker 1: take shots to this time. I mean, you want take
Speaker 1: a shot together. He called in. He's ready, but he's
Speaker 1: trying to figure out how the phone. This is. This
Speaker 1: is too good talk. Yeah, let us talk. We're trying
Speaker 1: to figure out the FaceTime. He doesn't have a iPhone,
Speaker 1: so so put it on speaking. They know that voice.
Speaker 1: Let's see, let's is it going to going to your
Speaker 1: mic portion? Did you be boss? I didn't even I
Speaker 1: don't even know. I just say no, homo, but I know,
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's politically correct. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying about. I didn't invent that. That's my niggas
Speaker 1: from the east Side. Let crack. It's good cat told
Speaker 1: to you yo, yo, this ship. Shoot, how are you
Speaker 1: doing you all right? Yeah? Yeah, right man? No good
Speaker 1: going on? I'm been locking nothing and I miss you
Speaker 1: like a motherfucker force. Man. I love this nigga. I
Speaker 1: love y'all love this nigga. This nigga he has no
Speaker 1: this niggas genuine no filter period, yo. So listen, I'm
Speaker 1: telling the story about how the whole ship started with you.
Speaker 1: A rocket fell and they're like, Kim. They're not saying
Speaker 1: they don't believe me, but they like, are you sure?
Speaker 1: And I was telling them, could you tell them how
Speaker 1: we met? Real quick? Yeah, real brief? You want to
Speaker 1: do anybody now? Yeah? All right to check it. Um.
Speaker 1: It was a DJ named Korey. I can't silly throwing
Speaker 1: like this before I find to anything to throw these drunks.
Speaker 1: They let Nig perform that, and uh can and Korea
Speaker 1: is a real tighten. So Kim would come to fill
Speaker 1: me a lot. How we care about it? All we
Speaker 1: care about I don't know how to get into that bullshit,
Speaker 1: but anyway, how to hear something out there? Right? The
Speaker 1: chick in the headphlines who we always do about that ship?
Speaker 1: So I performed at the joint and Kim was in
Speaker 1: the thud and he heard it the next day. He
Speaker 1: must have got my number from Corey. He called me,
Speaker 1: got rack right? No, what's good? I need a voice
Speaker 1: from the rip. I'm like, oh, Ship, I'm a big
Speaker 1: camera fans my man now, but even before for Full
Speaker 1: three fifty seven and all that, you man a fan
Speaker 1: of hip hop period, So I'm hight. I came on
Speaker 1: the phone. He's like, yo, I want to do that
Speaker 1: song that journe. Did you be saying that mat goes
Speaker 1: the name? I said, that's one for P. D. Craig.
Speaker 1: We could throw it over. What's up? He said, come
Speaker 1: up to New York bringing with you ll Uh, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna meet you there baseline to believe it that a
Speaker 1: matter of fact, I got a head love of that baseline.
Speaker 1: The next day he came in in the middle of
Speaker 1: the night. Then the elves got baby on that drink.
Speaker 1: I come in the next day, the versus his on it.
Speaker 1: I'm in there. I'm in the main room. I'm excited
Speaker 1: me and man uh Jay walk saying I'm playing the
Speaker 1: ship for everybody to walk in because I'm just geeking
Speaker 1: because I got a drinking cam on the ship about
Speaker 1: to go around for me. That's in my head. You're
Speaker 1: any time I Mike Jay walked in. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: check this ship off. I played. I played my part.
Speaker 1: I come on. I don't know who came on first.
Speaker 1: You gotta come on first. And came was like after me,
Speaker 1: and soon the can verse come on like he just
Speaker 1: liked to stop that ship. He stop it. He's like, Yo,
Speaker 1: delete that ship. I'm gonnoking. I looked up, like, Yo,
Speaker 1: hold on a lot, what the is going on? Yo?
Speaker 1: Delete that ship? Um, you got cracked you on even
Speaker 1: you're doing that drink. Do you do what you gotta
Speaker 1: do your thing? And just walked out the room and ship.
Speaker 1: I'm stuck. I'm sitting there looking crazy. I'm like, God, ship,
Speaker 1: I just had a feature with the nigger can deleted
Speaker 1: my ship. Um I caught. So the next a couple
Speaker 1: of days later, I'm in New York. I'm l a
Speaker 1: oh on can. I got a call from I think
Speaker 1: you to share you Somebody from the office was like,
Speaker 1: yo Pete uh. I said, I'm about to leave. She's like,
Speaker 1: hold up, Kim on the line. You want to talk
Speaker 1: to you, get on the phone with it like you
Speaker 1: crack man, umy man. You know we all funk with you. El.
Speaker 1: Everybody's likes man or freaky everybody and if you want, man,
Speaker 1: you always got a home over here with us over
Speaker 1: the this shet niggas. I said, I appreciate that, man,
Speaker 1: but write this shoot out with these niggas and by
Speaker 1: him telling you like being so Gim went with me
Speaker 1: right there, just keeping the phone in with me like that.
Speaker 1: I just said to keep. I had to tell me
Speaker 1: like yo, Bro, I was in the studio thinking Jay
Speaker 1: to leave at your first I'm thinking the nigga can
Speaker 1: gonna react like on something like I sess ship. And
Speaker 1: he didn't even save him. He just was like, yo, man,
Speaker 1: don't worry about that ship cracked. Just do what you
Speaker 1: gotta do, man, Go get on your flight and go
Speaker 1: kill that ship. Whatever you're doing, man, don't even doing
Speaker 1: any trip. And right before I flew up, he called
Speaker 1: me back and I had a drop. He had to drip,
Speaker 1: and just to drip. He met me somewhere. He pulled
Speaker 1: up and had like the blue uh seven forty five
Speaker 1: and some ship was one of these the husky BIMs
Speaker 1: spread up for me and gave me the TV. I
Speaker 1: had another copy of the ship I got, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean just that that we don't like run. I
Speaker 1: got a copy of this ship. You go right to it.
Speaker 1: I rocked ship the whole way, the whole flame um
Speaker 1: to l A. I get the l A. If you
Speaker 1: want me to go further, that's all you want. You
Speaker 1: want more of that? You can wrap it up with you. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: because I get the l A. Get the whole more
Speaker 1: like her, more like spooky to me. So what the
Speaker 1: fucker is going on? I think just off the on
Speaker 1: the strip that back was riding for um for Jay,
Speaker 1: and I mean, and that was this man under the circumstances.
Speaker 1: I ain't understand that the issues that Kim and Jay
Speaker 1: had a time, I ain't know. I just was like,
Speaker 1: what the fund was up with these niggas. I didn't
Speaker 1: know because it wasn't really talked about that much, but
Speaker 1: it was going on. So I get to l A.
Speaker 1: I played the CD. I'll painted in the CD the
Speaker 1: whole way. I know all the words that anybody versus
Speaker 1: and anything. I need to l a uh go up
Speaker 1: to the road. I think beings and Leith was playing
Speaker 1: the game in the in the suite. Put it in
Speaker 1: the CD. Mack, get up and you check people and
Speaker 1: breaking ahead and throw it in the trash. So I'm
Speaker 1: looking at was the like, but she was like the
Speaker 1: tighlights on that ship. And that's when I realized, said
Speaker 1: the math, get what you take. I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: you're talking. Okay, all right, crap. We love you, brother.
Speaker 1: I'm about to tax you now. I'm about to text
Speaker 1: you from my number when I get out of here.
Speaker 1: So you got my number where you at? You're a
Speaker 1: Philly right now, I'll call you when I get out
Speaker 1: of here. Y'all the sid he's saying Kim that he wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 1: not only everything I told you, I didn't need to
Speaker 1: break the studio. He went the studio J deleted it,
Speaker 1: but he called to tell me about I had a copy.
Speaker 1: I gave him a copy anyway before he went to
Speaker 1: his flight to elect to go to l A. He
Speaker 1: said he flew all the way in l A to
Speaker 1: me State property when he got this. When he got
Speaker 1: to l A, beans and whoever else from state property
Speaker 1: was in there playing the game. And he's like, yo,
Speaker 1: listening ship I did with Kim and jewels, And when
Speaker 1: he played at being stopped playing the game, injected and
Speaker 1: broke the C D and half and threw it in
Speaker 1: the garbage. That's exactly what he said. He did co me. Well,
Speaker 1: me and you are only record after that was what
Speaker 1: R Kelly and jay Z need you. How then was
Speaker 1: he getting that record? I used to live in Chicago.
Speaker 1: You know I couldn't be ignored in Chicago. Well, well
Speaker 1: I go say, I'm gonna make noise, be like never
Speaker 1: could step on all Kelly toads in Chicago, but they
Speaker 1: knew about us. We're playing it our flag out there,
Speaker 1: like so we all have to do Chicago dips at
Speaker 1: Chicago weekends all that ship. So you want to funk
Speaker 1: with me? And like his uh manage at the time,
Speaker 1: Georgian Regina Daniels, they took me in. They really like
Speaker 1: took a liking to me and ship so they was
Speaker 1: heavy in the city, especially George Daniel. I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: say and tell you all remember I don't even remember,
Speaker 1: you know, I did a few songs were all Kelly.
Speaker 1: Remember we did a video on Cali and all that,
Speaker 1: So that particular time, I'm not sure if Kelly was
Speaker 1: there not, but you know we're still funk around. Pause,
Speaker 1: y'all say no, petty man, have you got a segment
Speaker 1: on the show called quick Time with slam right now?
Speaker 1: Quick time was slam me. You pick one of the right.
Speaker 1: Usually if the person picked both, we take a shot
Speaker 1: for it. But being at y'all, Satan's or something, yes,
Speaker 1: something going down, something going down over there, y'all motherfuckers
Speaker 1: in the church or something in the daytime. So don't worry.
Speaker 1: We're gonna hold y'all. Dad, I'm gonna take with you.
Speaker 1: Ain't got regular rock I'll take the fucking white grade.
Speaker 1: This is terrible. You should you you want, I don't
Speaker 1: got y'a already tear me your story. I'm not bad,
Speaker 1: ain't drinking you even know, but Rocky Tarryaki, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I can't lie to your man for years many alright, cool,
Speaker 1: so alright, cool and tune it comes, make it going on.
Speaker 1: Ain't got the regular I got. I don't think he's
Speaker 1: gonna pick both on this one anyway. The first one
Speaker 1: you're ready to care quick time and slim, what the
Speaker 1: fuck go the other? Surrock? Yeah? Oh yeah, So it's
Speaker 1: gonna be me and you a cool we'll replaced it.
Speaker 1: Come on, you know, put something for some ice in
Speaker 1: this motherfucker. All right, very very grat now's a jay Z.
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, we're gonna make us drink off.
Speaker 1: So if you don't think well, we gotta drink. If
Speaker 1: you say both, we gotta drink. If you say both,
Speaker 1: we gotta drink. Please don't do that, don't do us
Speaker 1: like pick one. I ain't mad at you do both.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with jay Z if I got to.
Speaker 1: But it's really hard, it's really he says, that's hard.
Speaker 1: It's hard. It's really hard to pick you know what.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, right, y'all can feel to drink.
Speaker 1: I'll tell your story real quick, quick story. Ain't gonna
Speaker 1: drag when I was, when I was, when I was
Speaker 1: trying to get an album out, like I knew ja
Speaker 1: Ja was coming up with Ain't no Nigga and all that,
Speaker 1: and I was at this girl house and uh, I was.
Speaker 1: She was like, Jay is nice, Jayden, I don't think
Speaker 1: at first, I don't even come out. You're like, I
Speaker 1: like jay Z. I'm like better than Nas. She like yeah,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, Na, no, no, no, you're bugging. You're
Speaker 1: bugging you like Nasa is the nigga. Nas, You're bugging.
Speaker 1: She like, Kim, listen when I go to the club,
Speaker 1: I don't want to bring addiction every with me. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I just want to have a
Speaker 1: party and have a good time. And that's that. I
Speaker 1: don't want to have to think so much. And I
Speaker 1: was like, I kept that in mind for when I
Speaker 1: went forward. I'm like, you know, certain ships you could
Speaker 1: get deep on with certain people, you gotta dumb it
Speaker 1: damn for as well too. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So um, I always kept
Speaker 1: that in mind moving forward when she said that, But
Speaker 1: it's the only reason I would pick jay Z over Nas.
Speaker 1: And like I said, Nas to me, it is a
Speaker 1: supreme lyricist it's just that, you know, I would say,
Speaker 1: if I'm in the club, you could play more in
Speaker 1: the club, you know what I'm saying. But if i'm
Speaker 1: driving thinking, you probably want to listen to Niles more,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So that's the only reason.
Speaker 1: But it's a trick question, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Do you consider yourself lyricist? Like when you think about it,
Speaker 1: I could be, you know what I'm saying, But sometimes
Speaker 1: I dumped it down too because it's like coming in
Speaker 1: you you was coming in absolutely okay under Dame Dame Dash,
Speaker 1: Dame Dash. Okay, this is pretty easy, all right, Uh this,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be easy as well. Mace with you else,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick you outs. But but you can't. You know,
Speaker 1: I can't take away with Mace did as well, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, but definitely drops thinking. They both
Speaker 1: got to three albums. But I'm always gonna pick you else.
Speaker 1: But you know you don't want to take away with Mace.
Speaker 1: You know, people still funk with him, funk with his music,
Speaker 1: you know, fun with Mason not I probably once a week,
Speaker 1: once for me once a month. Still listen to Um
Speaker 1: been around the World remix. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I love that saying Okay, this, this is really I
Speaker 1: think we sucked up Biggie or Big Gul. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go with big El because I knew him more personally
Speaker 1: and I knew what he did. I'm not saying what
Speaker 1: Biggie did for the world. It's kind of like the
Speaker 1: un situation that we just talked about earlier. They was
Speaker 1: close to him and I was close to big Out,
Speaker 1: but I don't think big Al really got the shot
Speaker 1: to heat the fish shot that he deserved. But I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna sit there. And you know, Biggie's definitely like
Speaker 1: a world renowned top MC considered. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I funking round and say Biggie and go to Lennox
Speaker 1: and get hit over my head for not saying it.
Speaker 1: You Rockefeller, right, he was supposed to know with big
Speaker 1: Al bigged us up. He's like, you know, I want
Speaker 1: to do with cam and and Nori is doing was
Speaker 1: a great yeah. Right. You see that click where Bigger
Speaker 1: Al was like bigging us up was me you I
Speaker 1: think me you DMX like the top three dudes at
Speaker 1: the time, and Bigger it's like right before, I think
Speaker 1: it was one of the best to do it. He
Speaker 1: picked up up like he was like, yeah, I love
Speaker 1: the way that they're doing it. So people were moving on. Okay,
Speaker 1: Lebron and Jordan, Jordan, you're very easy mans um independent
Speaker 1: on major independent. Damn, look at you losing so far.
Speaker 1: I'm dumb, dumb if we were sinking. Yeah, I've been losing.
Speaker 1: I um on the World Times, children in the court,
Speaker 1: children in the corn. Okay, mo or Ace, we gotta
Speaker 1: be politically correctly, so you don't have to be. You
Speaker 1: could be. You can go with with you one. I
Speaker 1: drink more wax. But click on the other day, what
Speaker 1: is what is that? It's clicko, right, it's clicko. But
Speaker 1: it's rich the new like Rose Ship. I'm about to say,
Speaker 1: I'm a funk with the Ace now that it's available. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's right, so we're here. Think they don't have it
Speaker 1: in the store sometimes, right, Yeah, I told this motherfucker
Speaker 1: that you don't know, all right, the ship for listen man,
Speaker 1: when the store it was none, there's none. Okay, this
Speaker 1: should be also easy Miami or l a Miami. I
Speaker 1: knew that. Okay, respect all loyalty, loyalty, Okay, little Camel,
Speaker 1: Foxy Brown, Damn man, dah, that's a tough one. That's tough.
Speaker 1: What is the drink? I would say? Yeah, I must
Speaker 1: say both out back. It's a lot of another shot
Speaker 1: because I think he's gonna through the same on this one, don't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why I use my hand. I thought you wasn't
Speaker 1: say both. I want to say both the jay Z
Speaker 1: and nine too. If I knew we could say both, Chicago,
Speaker 1: Ohio both get me back, man, all right? You know? Yeah,
Speaker 1: slowed up man, Beanie Segal like Jay to kiss Man,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna drink this one, daw broth. Now, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with kiss though, Okay, Yeah, gotta New York
Speaker 1: from New York. Yeah, I think all right, I think
Speaker 1: you're definitively gonna pick this too. No Limit or cash Money.
Speaker 1: That's a tough one. That's tough. That's how Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with both because you know why master p
Speaker 1: both both master Peak of the signed cash Money. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And I think that when master
Speaker 1: Piece started getting commercial, No Limit picked off picked up
Speaker 1: right where they left. I mean part mean cash Money
Speaker 1: picked up right with no limit left off when they
Speaker 1: started doing a lot of commercial ship shot that alright,
Speaker 1: but P paved the way myself up. I feel like
Speaker 1: you're gonna go vote on this one too. Feel like
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do the go double the bottom J
Speaker 1: Blades A Kanye, No, I think I think you're gonna
Speaker 1: pick I don't know. I think I know you would
Speaker 1: pick they both. Good man, I'm gonna pick somebody for you.
Speaker 1: I would say Kanye because he got he got more.
Speaker 1: I like, just it to justice defensive. It's very rare
Speaker 1: just playing beats. I don't like every time he plays
Speaker 1: some ship. I think he knows what I want to hear,
Speaker 1: so I don't. I can't even remember the time I
Speaker 1: tell him to skip past a record or he plai yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I'm telling you for my personal like it. But
Speaker 1: I'm just you know, I'm being not being biased, because
Speaker 1: can you make beach for himself? He make beach for
Speaker 1: other people, wrap over his own fucking beach. I remember
Speaker 1: that's a big thing. When he got the rocket feller
Speaker 1: to be like, you're gonna keep the ship for yourself.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. When like Yo and so
Speaker 1: now he gonna be for yourself. So say, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say Kanye because he's an artist as well, and it's
Speaker 1: the last one of them both. I'm I do not
Speaker 1: know what you're gonna pick on this one. The locks
Speaker 1: of state property. Uh, I'm gonna say both. I'm gonna say,
Speaker 1: just got locks already. Now you know why, because state property,
Speaker 1: state property locks. Of course, I'm from New York and
Speaker 1: and I love you know Sheic Styles and J Nigus too.
Speaker 1: But you gotta care underestimate the movement that stay property
Speaker 1: not necessarily did a movement to close you know, everything else.
Speaker 1: But they got a lot of a lot of they
Speaker 1: might got more. Uh like clubs shipped in the locks,
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, like that PD crackh
Speaker 1: It dope, like even Free Freeway. Like I remember he
Speaker 1: was looking for a single and he's playing me his
Speaker 1: album and I'm like, you got a single right here?
Speaker 1: Like they just be singing, said Tom Dame m I said,
Speaker 1: make this a single. Um this ship with um Beanie
Speaker 1: and jay Z, like you playing us in the club.
Speaker 1: That's it go crazy, Yo, that's it, nig It's going
Speaker 1: crazy off that record. I think they got more light
Speaker 1: in the club ships, but lots got a bunch of
Speaker 1: ship too. I'm gonna just say both. So Y've been
Speaker 1: fucked up. You to change your mind? Yeah, because we
Speaker 1: took the shot. But man, you know all right, So, um,
Speaker 1: I gotta ask this question straight up because I believe
Speaker 1: Nick Cannon says something to you said something Nick Cannon
Speaker 1: and he was like, you don't tell the family. I'm
Speaker 1: good find the felt like he was trying to say,
Speaker 1: you smashed. I'm not sure. I just gotta ask straight up, right,
Speaker 1: just my friend, all right? And I got mad. You know.
Speaker 1: Another thing is me and Nick. We was sucking around
Speaker 1: on Instagram and going back and forth each try to
Speaker 1: make fun of my pink coat when I'm holding the ship.
Speaker 1: But I put up a clip of Mariah like caressing
Speaker 1: me with it. You know what I'm saying, Like yo,
Speaker 1: But one thing I will say about Nick Cannon and
Speaker 1: he you know, um, we haven't seen each other, but
Speaker 1: he gave me some props on the radio a few
Speaker 1: years ago. That Nigga gets to the bag. That Nigga
Speaker 1: gets to the bag. Yeah, yeah, it gets to the bag.
Speaker 1: He then gets up and hustles and he sucked a
Speaker 1: lot of bad bitches, like y'all carning the canon, Corny
Speaker 1: all that ship you want and it gets to the
Speaker 1: bag bitches and nig it gets to the Turkpin. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I didn't know. It's a turk Pin. It's
Speaker 1: a Turpin. Is the other ship the turk Pin? That's
Speaker 1: a Turkpence ship where he got like, I gotta don't
Speaker 1: you know what it is that's getting right there. You
Speaker 1: gotta be confident to do that. But so we're the back.
Speaker 1: You definitely didn't smash me right back. Didn't say that
Speaker 1: a lot of people can't come on the table A
Speaker 1: lot of night your single you drink you man. That's
Speaker 1: the one thing they got mad. And I'm not saying
Speaker 1: I did the right guy, but that's the one thing
Speaker 1: they did. They mac mad and nick about going and
Speaker 1: telling everybody you won't kim kar this been tra Marie
Speaker 1: and they're like, yo, chill, bro, you want more bits
Speaker 1: with the fuck chill. I wasn't ready for that. You
Speaker 1: gotta be run and tell everything you ain't gonna get
Speaker 1: the next bit, Oh my god. The neighbor. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know, you know it's one thing when you
Speaker 1: bring your own celebrity to the table, and it's another
Speaker 1: thing when I make you famous. You know, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: respect because I want to get to the horse. Um.
Speaker 1: So we talked about j you having the problem with
Speaker 1: Jay and fixing it. Let's get to the nasright, because
Speaker 1: I believe I'm actually in this NAS problem. Like when
Speaker 1: he went at you, he dissed me. At the same
Speaker 1: time this interview happens. He comes out, he goes, this
Speaker 1: is you, this is me. I think this is a
Speaker 1: this is Nelly, this is a step your lyrics. Y. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he went at me and he's the first guy my time,
Speaker 1: my brother. Now's okay, Like you said with James, you
Speaker 1: made seven? How many this rectors are you make in
Speaker 1: a night Christmas? You know, it was like conscious. It
Speaker 1: was a hard decision because Nas, just like you said,
Speaker 1: he just got on the radio start this niggas and
Speaker 1: we're big NAS fans, super big NAS fans, so we like, man,
Speaker 1: what the funk is this about? Like why is this thing?
Speaker 1: But at the same time, we gained a momentum in
Speaker 1: the street to so we just like NAS ain't gonna
Speaker 1: walk in the park like lead like you know, because
Speaker 1: we thought we could rhyme two people like this is
Speaker 1: fucking nas like the best, right, Yeah, this is the
Speaker 1: best rapper ever, you know what I'm saying. So we like, damn,
Speaker 1: what do we do? Do we ignore it? And niggas
Speaker 1: like nine, you can't ignore that ship right now? So
Speaker 1: we're like, but what was his line to you? Because
Speaker 1: he just blew up my line? He said to me,
Speaker 1: I don't remember though, he like he was basically saying,
Speaker 1: how night selling this rack? Playing these whack niggers like
Speaker 1: Cameron and Nelly? He just Nellie and then he told
Speaker 1: me that much. Yeah, he was like, yeah, y'all appear
Speaker 1: playing this garbage you want to bring up. Yeah, it's like,
Speaker 1: y'all nigga is playing this garbage up here, and I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: what the fund was that about? So normal story is
Speaker 1: we have to think and we're like, damn, if we're
Speaker 1: gonna respects, right, you just win that jay Z. This
Speaker 1: is arguably the best guy, or not to what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. What the there's nothing to you
Speaker 1: but everything I'm telling you, right, And that's why it's
Speaker 1: good to have this cover everything you're telling me, I'm
Speaker 1: telling your or the questions you're asking are good because
Speaker 1: in all these stories we're talking about, did I just
Speaker 1: start anything? Did I just randomly come out of nowhere
Speaker 1: and just be this? And not or until this ped
Speaker 1: crack story we I speaking of as an outside looking in,
Speaker 1: we thought that I was wilding. It's really like like
Speaker 1: Dame was like trying to break up. Break up like
Speaker 1: one of the questions that you know, we always do
Speaker 1: this before we do a drink, chance, well, I give
Speaker 1: somebody a clue. When you had to give somebody the clue.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to say I I can't, but everybody's like, yo,
Speaker 1: ask Camps straight up, does he think he's the reason
Speaker 1: Dame Dash and jay Z broke up? Like, no, I
Speaker 1: know the real reason? And then't I mean, they've got
Speaker 1: nothing to me from now? Started looking in it looks
Speaker 1: good and I don't want to say because, um, well
Speaker 1: they don't give a funk. You know, I don't think
Speaker 1: none of them giving my opinion. Yeah, my point my
Speaker 1: opinion is this. It started and they didn't get Jay's
Speaker 1: opinion or input on trying to make me the president.
Speaker 1: He started shining away. Then from what Dames says, I
Speaker 1: don't you know that sudden you have to ask jay
Speaker 1: Z is that he got to a point where he
Speaker 1: didn't want to break bread with Biggs no more so,
Speaker 1: Dame says, who didn't want to break bread? Jay Z?
Speaker 1: Like they split? I don't know they split. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's fifty three three, I don't know if
Speaker 1: jay got sixty. This is Dame's story. This is what
Speaker 1: he's saying. Why everything, like all they don't want to
Speaker 1: break Biggs off no more that. I'm like, I don't
Speaker 1: know after oh boy, this is yet you got the
Speaker 1: cologne over right? You know what I'm saying. But you
Speaker 1: could see jay Z started distance yourself. He'll be around,
Speaker 1: but he'll be you can see it, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like you know if nigger come to office
Speaker 1: five days a week, then from because O g Wan
Speaker 1: is with him, who was also another hardlem god w
Speaker 1: my man, Like why are you something come to baseline
Speaker 1: where I want this your house? Like not overstep in
Speaker 1: jay Z, when you liked this this situation because like
Speaker 1: I said, so many people are fans of you, fans
Speaker 1: of this show. That people that that was the direct question.
Speaker 1: That's the most anything you want to talk, that was
Speaker 1: the direct um breakup of it. So I think that's
Speaker 1: something that you have to ask Ja Dame or whoever.
Speaker 1: But me personally, I just think it's like a communication
Speaker 1: and jay Z wasn't not saying respecting, he wasn't digging
Speaker 1: how ship was being ran where he wasn't around. That's
Speaker 1: what I think. And then you know because Jay when
Speaker 1: when I got there, Jay won't coming to office every day,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I don't think he
Speaker 1: necessarily like everything that was going on in the office,
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's decisions being made without him being
Speaker 1: talked to about it or anything like that, to where
Speaker 1: he probably was playing an induction on his own before
Speaker 1: it came to light anyway. But there's something you have
Speaker 1: to ask him. Me personally, I think my situation played
Speaker 1: a role year, but not purposely that I did anything.
Speaker 1: I just think I just thinking That's why I said
Speaker 1: I didn't want to go there. I just think that
Speaker 1: we bought too much there to wear to We're like, yea,
Speaker 1: you got state property there, and now I don't want
Speaker 1: to use the word falling in line or bleak there
Speaker 1: and I don't want to like I said, not for
Speaker 1: the life, because they've more considered family. But we came there.
Speaker 1: It's almost like we funk with y'all, but we can't wait. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we can't wait. We don't want to wait for y'all
Speaker 1: to say, Yo, this is going to al right cool,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to the niggas y'all funk with and
Speaker 1: bust these moves. But and just down the third and
Speaker 1: then we just got overwhelmed, overwhelmed to where it's like,
Speaker 1: how the fun Like I told you, Sparkses came in
Speaker 1: the office for Philly like I can't get office. I
Speaker 1: remember that. Then he came in one day and then
Speaker 1: Sparks is the funny thing. I liked him to pause.
Speaker 1: That's the guy and state property. Yeah exactly. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: came in one day. Yeah, yeah, Jim pulled the gum out.
Speaker 1: He came there one day because there be rocking, we
Speaker 1: got albums moving on. He just came in there one day.
Speaker 1: Niggas said, yo, he came my office. Last said, kim
Speaker 1: My CD done, we're marketing. Well, I gotta go, I said,
Speaker 1: he said, promotions anything, man, it's done. I said, you
Speaker 1: gotta go talk to the office. You know, he said,
Speaker 1: you ain't talking to nobody because you're just doing whatever
Speaker 1: I said. It may seem like that, but it's a protocol,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like when the protocol this
Speaker 1: and just buked off talking to himself or whatever. But
Speaker 1: you know what them Niggas was all waiting for Niggas
Speaker 1: and Rockfall to get the ship together, and I went
Speaker 1: through that already yet entertainment. I went through that an
Speaker 1: epic until I said, I'm not letting that happen again.
Speaker 1: Not nothing bad, but I know who I need to meet,
Speaker 1: who I need to talk to, But the musicals don't
Speaker 1: get done and we're gonna bust the move. So I
Speaker 1: just think it was a lot moving too fast, and
Speaker 1: Niggas wasn't basically letting jay Z know, like like basically,
Speaker 1: for instance, right you run Rocket Fellow Records and you're
Speaker 1: here on TV right that Kim's going to be the president,
Speaker 1: like the fun called me. You know what, I'm saying
Speaker 1: that same thing, like with diplomats, same thing, Like I
Speaker 1: ran not saying random artists like yo, we're gonna make
Speaker 1: it fucking JR. Right at the president at the time,
Speaker 1: like who said that that I didn't say that. If
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be my label, you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I think it was like a lack of communication,
Speaker 1: you know what. That goddamn that left a lot of
Speaker 1: my shoulders kill me. That make noise for that when
Speaker 1: you said I've mentioned this on drink chains before. When
Speaker 1: you say, and I'm paraphrasing, when the funk we start bouncing,
Speaker 1: when the New York stopped bouncings that what you say
Speaker 1: and not second that's my second album, so get out
Speaker 1: of that. JA. That's definitely was it. Yeah, it seemed
Speaker 1: like it, but yeah, bounced bounced with Okay, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna say it. It might have been. It might have been.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I can't recall. That was a haze,
Speaker 1: that was wild. It was a wild time, But you
Speaker 1: weren't thinking that anybody specific at the time when you
Speaker 1: wrote that. I ain't gonna say that I don't remember
Speaker 1: that song came in my nine I might I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna say it wasn't. I'm not saying you know, the
Speaker 1: whole record this and Jay z uh Yeah, So I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna say I I don't remember if I did
Speaker 1: it because I feel like you saw the future of
Speaker 1: New York. New York after that was bouncing. Okay, right,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say yes, and I'm gonna take your
Speaker 1: word for it. So moving on fifty fifty was cool
Speaker 1: even just said earlier that horse and Carriage. Fifty told
Speaker 1: you that he was actually in that pool. Right, where
Speaker 1: did you guys go on? I didn't, I didn't see that.
Speaker 1: What happened was, you know, so basically Jim and went
Speaker 1: over the Cotch Records and we started doing a lot
Speaker 1: of business with Cotch Records, and Coach was a label
Speaker 1: that wasn't that popular at the time, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So fifty started and being we was the
Speaker 1: only biggest artist day at the time, they had a
Speaker 1: bunch of niggas. Wasn't popping. They's like they want to
Speaker 1: go on up a bag. A lot of people called it.
Speaker 1: It wasn't was it land before and then they became
Speaker 1: When I got there in Boston, I didn't even know that.
Speaker 1: But like, so when we got um, well now we
Speaker 1: Jim probably eat that whole deal for himself. He seen
Speaker 1: they didn't want to sign Jim because you said that
Speaker 1: you bumped you out. Yeah, but they don't. I brought
Speaker 1: him too. They didn't want to sign him, but Jim
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna wait and he was. Jim started doing his
Speaker 1: own thing, moving around everywhere. So he came to me,
Speaker 1: He's like yo ho. When to me, I'm like, bad,
Speaker 1: we could get the deal. So cos had a bunch
Speaker 1: of old artis stage ready to go in an old
Speaker 1: bag and pull out all that old money and spend
Speaker 1: it on new talent. And if it coincided at the
Speaker 1: same time we was doing our ship a depth to him,
Speaker 1: it was perfect. So when we started other artists over
Speaker 1: there due to God and I was, you know, artisides
Speaker 1: dealing with so fittings on the rail saying that that's
Speaker 1: the graveyard for rappers. You know. He's like, that's the
Speaker 1: graveyard that gets over there. They go over there to die,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So we just took a
Speaker 1: fence to it because we're like, who else you talking about?
Speaker 1: Like nobody's been talking to nobody's been talking about Cots
Speaker 1: for us since we know, because I didn't even know
Speaker 1: about him till Jim told me about him. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: they used to be land Speed. That's the reason when
Speaker 1: he was talking, Yeah, I didn't know. You didn't know that.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. So when he was saying he
Speaker 1: didn't say land speed, he was in Bob Perry office
Speaker 1: or Alan Grumlock. Yeah. So we're just going through it.
Speaker 1: And then I just got on the phone and we
Speaker 1: just went back and forth with it. But I just
Speaker 1: took a fence to cops. Was like out home too,
Speaker 1: as far as death chair and everything else. We took
Speaker 1: cops like that was our crib like we used to
Speaker 1: going there. Wow. Zeke always telling me about how like
Speaker 1: you just calmed down, Zeke. I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: know what. I don't know what's going on, Zeke. I know,
Speaker 1: I know even twenty five yeall you just you just
Speaker 1: you just heard just chilling. I don't know. I'm like
Speaker 1: getting it like I'm just I'm doing something. Okay, I
Speaker 1: like you old shops like that. That's right in North Carolina? Right,
Speaker 1: did you out did you out did doing your ship? Okay? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: So what he was filiciously and I was just saying that. So,
Speaker 1: so fifty goes on the radio you call in um,
Speaker 1: I don't remember, but probably so probably a number he
Speaker 1: was in cots when he was just cos okay, yes,
Speaker 1: I called Daniel and we just started like, yo, why
Speaker 1: are you coming? Because to me, it wasn't coming to cops,
Speaker 1: it was coming at us because who gives the funk
Speaker 1: about Michael Cotch? And I don't respect the Mike cos
Speaker 1: that's my man, or Alan Grumblack or why randomly just
Speaker 1: this them nigger, as if they was land Speed or
Speaker 1: they was whoever else, and why all of a sudden
Speaker 1: when we hear him, it's this them. So that's how
Speaker 1: I took it at the time. How many projects you
Speaker 1: had at that time? At what Cotch? It was Jim, Jim,
Speaker 1: how I was trying to go. They rushed the dealing
Speaker 1: this son and baby Grandma's son. But Duke the God
Speaker 1: was doing all the albums there and his ship turned
Speaker 1: in the compilations of all of us, so he would
Speaker 1: have duel songs, he would have Jim songs, he has
Speaker 1: my songs, he obviously songs, he'll have everything. But we
Speaker 1: was putting instead of the mix tapes. So once we
Speaker 1: was doing stopped doing the mix tapes, you released them.
Speaker 1: Officials would start releasing them at Cotch officially, and that's
Speaker 1: how all our ships and we'll put them under the
Speaker 1: duke the god names so he like hosted tapes, but
Speaker 1: all the mix tapes became money because we was releasing
Speaker 1: them all in Cotch. That was the game at that point, right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: changed the game, goddamn it. You know how plus where
Speaker 1: you are? Yeah yeah, I mean it's some real ship.
Speaker 1: Like I don't know what the pink horse power is,
Speaker 1: but I'm about to take a shot of that. I
Speaker 1: got a case for you if it's don't take a
Speaker 1: shot right now, but I'm home in a second thing.
Speaker 1: I got my time limit. I'm about to say now
Speaker 1: that you know it's all naturals from Africa's straight up
Speaker 1: and ain't no gas. They're supposed or nothing. But we
Speaker 1: didn't introduce pink power at all. So you say it
Speaker 1: from Africa people that's listening, because if we got a
Speaker 1: big audience that listener and that that can't watch this
Speaker 1: right now to do the joke drivers out there. So
Speaker 1: this squab so basically horse powers. It's an all natural
Speaker 1: supplements similar to similar to viagra, tree barks, roots, leaves,
Speaker 1: all made in um I don't want to say Ghana,
Speaker 1: but it's a part of Africa and we bought it
Speaker 1: over here so that you know, if you need a
Speaker 1: little help in the bedroom, you don't have to take
Speaker 1: a gas c shappella. You don't have to take something
Speaker 1: from the pharmacy. You can take something all natural and
Speaker 1: it's really gonna work. But your man was telling you,
Speaker 1: is right, that ship working like fifty minutes. Don't take
Speaker 1: it around nobody that you don't want to be around
Speaker 1: when it's time to take it. How do you know
Speaker 1: about that? You want to take it right now? It's
Speaker 1: not one of them things you can say, is you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying this and not one of them. Sisters,
Speaker 1: you can be like I'm gonna let it chill in
Speaker 1: my system and stop because what we thought it is
Speaker 1: like tiger balls when you could sit bit. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you're still chill. You you you knocking it down like yeah, Sisters,
Speaker 1: can't be read with that. No man, Sugar was here,
Speaker 1: you telling me, tell you shake it. He's telling Ecstacy
Speaker 1: right should took this. My man should and told me
Speaker 1: you have to hop out the car because he's in
Speaker 1: his car with his mother and it wasn't right. I
Speaker 1: want to take for the story now I'm just telling
Speaker 1: you that he took it too early and you got
Speaker 1: on your mom's in the cars. Mom. And what I'm
Speaker 1: trying to tell you it ain't mental. It's gonna work. Hearts,
Speaker 1: that's all you know. Power, it ain't about That's what
Speaker 1: t tell man. At this point, the man tell you
Speaker 1: don't take it because you're gonna be like, yeah, take
Speaker 1: that right. You remember the R expels, the blue arxpells.
Speaker 1: They don't remembers. Yeah, I can tell this first, doesn't
Speaker 1: you with we can press after the chill. See you
Speaker 1: got you went a little buff. I would horney go
Speaker 1: weed after the alls. This is no, this is not
Speaker 1: it ya this past that. That's you said when niggers
Speaker 1: using Now it's honey, anybody going honeys honey, Yeah, look
Speaker 1: at some man. Yeah, look at it. Sneak You see
Speaker 1: anybody better? You see his sneakers. Cat, look at Cathlea.
Speaker 1: Look at my cabral, my main cab. They get too
Speaker 1: much money to do with this. Come on again, keeping
Speaker 1: keeping honey. You know what yo, what's your name? Honey? Ordience?
Speaker 1: Somebody appreciate that. Not some girl right now. I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, he killed it's saying me to do that
Speaker 1: what they love They listen straight ships like all the way.
Speaker 1: Ye know he's not gonna get homebo that Eddie Murphy.
Speaker 1: J know, Texas, you kind of made those what is that?
Speaker 1: Baby is that? Babe baby Clark? They collaboration failed. They
Speaker 1: just be clear. You know a lot of these wren
Speaker 1: to do colaboracing baby baby Clark. It didn't work. Just
Speaker 1: continue the one where you're working. Don't you know where
Speaker 1: you're laughing because he like y'all don't even know ye
Speaker 1: that race, that collaboration didn't work. I can't believe this
Speaker 1: is great, This is this is so great, Holy MONI guacamoni,
Speaker 1: okay boom. The only time I was glad like we
Speaker 1: got you know, but the only time I've ever been
Speaker 1: disappointed and you you told me it was disappointed in me.
Speaker 1: Only time I ever was disappointed in you when you
Speaker 1: and Jim was beefing. I didn't understand it. I couldn't.
Speaker 1: I couldn't get it. How is that? How was that
Speaker 1: for you? Like when y'all felt out for to me? No,
Speaker 1: like you know, if you ever look at it, when
Speaker 1: the gym was upset for me for what ever? The
Speaker 1: fifty million times he's been upsetting. I never did gym.
Speaker 1: I never fourth back, I never did a song. I
Speaker 1: never fell into that because that's my brother. I know
Speaker 1: he might be emotional gym, real emotional guy. So you
Speaker 1: ain't never hear no disrecord. You never heard heard I
Speaker 1: played Jim or nothing like that. The only thing I
Speaker 1: ever did was when he went on phone Master Flex
Speaker 1: I was saying that I didn't come to shows or
Speaker 1: anything like that. I did alive, you know, rebuttaling what
Speaker 1: he said. But I've never did gym ever to this day.
Speaker 1: So it may seem like be going through it or
Speaker 1: what ever from his end or whatever, but you can't
Speaker 1: find nothing of me this and gym nowhere. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: never this him because I fall out period. I was
Speaker 1: just like, but but that's my point, so much fall
Speaker 1: out with me. But I know him. I know he's
Speaker 1: upset for the minute, so I don't know, so like,
Speaker 1: I've never really this gym ever. Like I said, I
Speaker 1: did one thing, you know, the correct a few things
Speaker 1: that I thought was wrong when he did the funk
Speaker 1: Flex interview. But I know he was really upset at
Speaker 1: the time, so I was like, let me just clear
Speaker 1: a couple of things up. So but I've never died Gym.
Speaker 1: It's nowhere you can find where I'll be like me
Speaker 1: this and Gym nowhere. So when he's upset, I just
Speaker 1: know he's passionate about what he do. He puts his
Speaker 1: he wears his heart on his sleeve, you know, and
Speaker 1: everything like that. But I already know after a while
Speaker 1: it's going weird down and we're gonna be good again.
Speaker 1: So that's why I never really said, now, you can't
Speaker 1: put end up with me, him, this and them right now. No, No,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying this is discripacy, period, absolutely, because I
Speaker 1: love seeing y'all together so much. And that's that's that's
Speaker 1: what I know from y'all. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like I know y'all from the count of the beginning,
Speaker 1: Like I know these stories you spoke about today, and
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm not putting gem in because that's my family,
Speaker 1: yess not. It's no story where I started with nobody.
Speaker 1: I'm glad we got to clad up on your show
Speaker 1: because every time I wanted somebody, you came to me first.
Speaker 1: Well I felt like you did. Yeah, we just did.
Speaker 1: And I was just saying that nobody else was on
Speaker 1: cots to just randomly discotch. It wasn't like mob Deeper
Speaker 1: got there yet or anybody else that got there. We
Speaker 1: used the only ones there. So if it was land
Speaker 1: Speed Up Catch or whoever it was, it was like,
Speaker 1: why dissed them out there? Blue? But what the says
Speaker 1: the graveyard for rappers? The only rappers then except for me.
Speaker 1: It kind of felt like he was picking on Mace
Speaker 1: a little bit, okay, But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: I just told you, he kept hitting me in my
Speaker 1: ribs like this sixteen different times. Yeah, like I said,
Speaker 1: these stories, because it'd be a hundred of different stories
Speaker 1: I can call the same way we call Pete Crack.
Speaker 1: I called eight. I'm just telling me that ship Pete
Speaker 1: Crack just said it would verbat him for whatever. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna just tell you the facts, mean to tell you
Speaker 1: exactly what happened. So it may seem like I'm picking
Speaker 1: on them. But if somebody keep poking you, somebody keep
Speaker 1: kicking you under the table at dinner. Because he because
Speaker 1: he made this this record, was was surprised when he
Speaker 1: that this record. I was proud of him. Oh ship,
Speaker 1: like that's proud of him. Man. I was like, y'all
Speaker 1: felt like fucking U. To be honest, I felt like
Speaker 1: den Zeland training day when the nigga we pulled the
Speaker 1: gun out and said I'm gonna killing about to kill
Speaker 1: him in the house and trading yeah, like they get
Speaker 1: dropping him, like yeah, yeah, he's a good community. I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna that might have been against its sponsor. I've
Speaker 1: ever heard that. It's funny, it's bro Holy ready, I've
Speaker 1: never been this shock right now. I wasn't ready. I
Speaker 1: wasn't ready, Holy morningly, but putting it all together to
Speaker 1: see even you guys together right now, you know how
Speaker 1: hard it is to have a twenty year relationship in
Speaker 1: this fucking fustiness. Absolutely, so many cools you see from
Speaker 1: twenty years ago. They don't have three of the same
Speaker 1: members for the same members that's around. So me seeing
Speaker 1: y'all brothers together, man, Like I remember doing shows with y'all. U.
Speaker 1: Mike Lady, you said you said something on this other
Speaker 1: guy's uh TV one time, so the guy's platform, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. I don't say that guy's
Speaker 1: thanks he said it earlier. And you described a show
Speaker 1: with Mike Lady, do you remember the time where oh
Speaker 1: they tried to get that killer. Oh, yes, it's at
Speaker 1: the same time. I think I had went there early
Speaker 1: because this was the ship back in the actually was
Speaker 1: the reason why we went crazy because I went there earlier,
Speaker 1: I got paid earlier. Everyone wanted to go. I remember
Speaker 1: the everyone was the headline of the show, and I
Speaker 1: was like, let's go, earluse. I know these niggas. I
Speaker 1: did a show with these things before. They ain't got
Speaker 1: the bread, so I'm going. I went. I opened up.
Speaker 1: They're like plat and I'm like, I opened up, let's go.
Speaker 1: I didn't show giving my money. And then I went
Speaker 1: and freaky like, yo, where are you going? Said yo, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got paid. He said, wait a minute, we didn't.
Speaker 1: I said, supposed to. And then I didn't know from
Speaker 1: there and I read I saw on the interview that
Speaker 1: you did. He was like, y'all came and it was
Speaker 1: it was they didn't have my money, they have my money.
Speaker 1: And the next thing, you know, they tried some big
Speaker 1: toll six times the niggas came out. It was redgas. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and uh they came out. I guess protecting Mike Lady
Speaker 1: because we're like, give us our money. And then like
Speaker 1: they had a lot of niggers, but they're like forty
Speaker 1: niggas and they surrounded me because I think Jim and
Speaker 1: Black of Dawn on his side beef and like, YO,
Speaker 1: give us our fucking money. And they walked out like oh,
Speaker 1: and then like forty niggers filed them around and they
Speaker 1: surround me like here me beef about your money. And
Speaker 1: then nigger yapped my chain. Word yeah, I did a
Speaker 1: song about him, scored that of a That Alive. It
Speaker 1: turned out crazy, just typing that of a Lot that Alive.
Speaker 1: I told the whole story on that. Wow, I didn't
Speaker 1: know that I on this show good. I ain't at
Speaker 1: I said. I just went and paid the left. So
Speaker 1: they yat my chain and my man what you just think?
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know what I know. This turned
Speaker 1: out bad for them. You're not getting but my chain.
Speaker 1: And then my man just came out. I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: say an he's gonna get mad at me anyway. He
Speaker 1: fucking came out popping and pistol whip the nigg who
Speaker 1: took my chain and took his chain and got my
Speaker 1: chain back. And then we left, and then he's like,
Speaker 1: fucking Mike Lighty man, snicker got this going all this
Speaker 1: ship for you actually made a song my only movie,
Speaker 1: but this did some great story. But I didn't know it.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that period til I've seen you describe
Speaker 1: that story. He was like, Yo, because you said, you said,
Speaker 1: you exactly did exactly what you said. You said, I've
Speaker 1: seen Nori and because what happened was I kept telling me, yo,
Speaker 1: you on the tour with everybody hot, they're gonna come late.
Speaker 1: Don't funk with that lationship. You ain't gonna get bad. Like.
Speaker 1: So we were supposed to come at nine. I showed
Speaker 1: up at six like I'm ready. I performed with the
Speaker 1: sixty people where I killed it. Everybody got paid. But
Speaker 1: I'm like, but you know what, it was that thing
Speaker 1: we wanted to the headline, So all of us showed
Speaker 1: up later. So I had to a vantage of being like,
Speaker 1: you know, people showing up late, and you know, a
Speaker 1: certain times we thought it was headlines. But that was
Speaker 1: that was crazy when I heard six and your uh
Speaker 1: and I heard your record to it. So what's your
Speaker 1: favorite ever in hip hop camp? My favorite era? Um?
Speaker 1: I mean it depends on like as a professional or
Speaker 1: just a hip hop fan, you know whatever. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's pretty much both. I don't take a shot for
Speaker 1: that too. You pretty much want to get me drunk cameras.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm like, it's a lot of ship.
Speaker 1: You know. You gotta realize when I was a child,
Speaker 1: you know, eleven, twelve, thirteen years old, You've got people
Speaker 1: who I wanted to be like and dressed like. And
Speaker 1: you know I remember going the Canal Street and get
Speaker 1: a chain because e p m D have a link,
Speaker 1: or about the fisherman had because epm D got a
Speaker 1: fisherman had, or loving Uh you know I used to
Speaker 1: love nice and smooth, you know, smooth being greg nice
Speaker 1: and fucking pop called question you ran daddy? Are you
Speaker 1: and fucking you know, just try to sneak that on
Speaker 1: you on the grat a g Yeah, definitely a f
Speaker 1: I ain't know that, so I thought he was all
Speaker 1: like on space mask, what's the ship? Leave me alone?
Speaker 1: Ain't no spaces my space, No grand daddy got a page.
Speaker 1: But you know I knew a girl named can your
Speaker 1: phone West Virgin Like that made me want to be
Speaker 1: a rapper. Yeah, like that off I heard that baby
Speaker 1: can't Yeah, that's so matter at the more the more
Speaker 1: that's the name of you remember that Jinia mom oh
Speaker 1: early in the which one, it was like it was like,
Speaker 1: I forget what it's called. What happened? Oh yeah? Is
Speaker 1: that not your favorite year your career? Nah? No? Who
Speaker 1: was it? Say? Oh too? Probably? Oh boy? Because I
Speaker 1: got all my niggers on, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like everybody had a deal. Like I love your career,
Speaker 1: and I know because I feel like you had horse
Speaker 1: and Carriage when I had Super Thub. I feel like
Speaker 1: I had grimed me when you had I forget what else?
Speaker 1: Like everything and oh boy, and I had Homeboy and
Speaker 1: I felt that was so great. Yeah, you know we
Speaker 1: didn't pay the full tour, remember, yeah, absolutely, but like
Speaker 1: probably oh three, Like just being able to have all
Speaker 1: my niggas or one with a deal, whether they had
Speaker 1: an album out the time or anything like that, it
Speaker 1: was just a that's like a it was some bucket
Speaker 1: ship list to get off me, to get make sure
Speaker 1: Jim out of deal, jewels had to deal like it
Speaker 1: was a sign. Freaky Zeke went to jail, and when
Speaker 1: he went to jail, when he came over from jail.
Speaker 1: It was dope to that car ready for him and
Speaker 1: a crib and corndo and all that ship ready in cash,
Speaker 1: and then he eventually ended up getting Then I get
Speaker 1: when he came from jail, I got him a deal
Speaker 1: and asylum. You know what I'm saying. But everything like
Speaker 1: those are my favorite years when I was able to
Speaker 1: help the crew out. And this is after a board
Speaker 1: is old three oh four he said, oh, three oh three.
Speaker 1: Ye is when the dip mouth came out. Jus came
Speaker 1: out three or oh four, So I felt gil Zeke
Speaker 1: was in jail. He came out like, oh seven, oh
Speaker 1: got MC deal O eight And what a year whenever
Speaker 1: he came out and got him a deal like I
Speaker 1: like that ship two days later. Yeah, I remember I
Speaker 1: got two our question for you. But I remember me
Speaker 1: looking at your face at one point when Cam and
Speaker 1: Jewels was Camon and Jim wasn't seeing uh and me
Speaker 1: just looking at your face. I forget what it was
Speaker 1: through internet was through the internet, and I remember like
Speaker 1: that might have been one of the most stressed times.
Speaker 1: You're like it was, It wasn't. At first. I couldn't
Speaker 1: understand it because we we've been tight before. Wrap like
Speaker 1: this is a cam by sandwich came about Sai and
Speaker 1: that was it came had the sandwich. So we were
Speaker 1: getting to try to get a piece. Cam was spit
Speaker 1: on the sandwich. You know what I'm saying. It was
Speaker 1: like and it didn't matter. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: give us a piece. And he got that way. So
Speaker 1: that's how close we want so far get out of jam.
Speaker 1: Like then you hear this person did this and that
Speaker 1: person to that. But I just couldn't gather what was
Speaker 1: going on because I'm like, ayes, so what he did
Speaker 1: this or whatever whatever they point was of, not what
Speaker 1: in the act with each other. I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1: But then I've seen it's going on. I think I
Speaker 1: was on. I don't know if I was on that
Speaker 1: I went somewhere with Jim and I'm thinking I'm rectif
Speaker 1: I wanted to rectify the situation because these things I
Speaker 1: loved you, like I'm sorry to cut you off, but
Speaker 1: I want to pick you up. I can tell her
Speaker 1: everybody you would have heard this, everybody. In my opinion,
Speaker 1: I could be wrong. You look at me and say, no, no,
Speaker 1: I know these things is gonna get it back together
Speaker 1: or you could be like but at one point it
Speaker 1: really seemed like ugly. It really seems okay because I
Speaker 1: love both of them, you know what I'm saying, like
Speaker 1: like hands down, you know what I mean when they
Speaker 1: say what you bring me to tell you? But all that,
Speaker 1: like I put my soul out here, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? It won would be a time if something's
Speaker 1: going on, I'm if it's over, it's over, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. That's how it ran with you, and
Speaker 1: that's how I still because it was for y'all. It's
Speaker 1: more y'all, but the forefront is for y'all. Zeke Juel's
Speaker 1: m jem right. But then you got fast On, you
Speaker 1: got Tito my man food back in the days. Then
Speaker 1: you got a song we told my Tito trying to
Speaker 1: stab ship night. That was all. I love that, um
Speaker 1: um all these people so but you as like the artist,
Speaker 1: that wasn't the artist? How much pressure was that on
Speaker 1: the fans when the fans were seeing you? I really can.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember this, but I wanted
Speaker 1: to be can. It was like, look, anybody can't do anything,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So when Rocket Fuller was
Speaker 1: going on, he was like, look, just go every day,
Speaker 1: get up in there and go speak to them up
Speaker 1: in the cubic foods, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: every time if they finished a session six in the morning,
Speaker 1: I'm up there, Like you mentioned Sherry before, I'm up
Speaker 1: I mean every tube marketing promoting, just being a face
Speaker 1: if they wasn't there or I'll just be up in there.
Speaker 1: So that's I took that as what I needed to
Speaker 1: do at the time, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: if Kim asked me to do something, mama spit a
Speaker 1: verse of a hook I'm excuse me, more so a hooker, really,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But there's a lot of
Speaker 1: underground ship that Food Freaky was doing, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I was keeping everything a lot. You were
Speaker 1: jumping on conference calls, on the street team conference calls too, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I was doing the deaf Jam street Team. He
Speaker 1: actually you felt about I know what, let me answer
Speaker 1: the sum something because you saw that going to the
Speaker 1: car like we're gonna like, no know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: this Zeke me and Jim wasn't speaking Zeken do ship
Speaker 1: like be next to me and put Jim on the phone, like, yo,
Speaker 1: what me and Cape have the same situation. But sometimes
Speaker 1: when you were together with somebody that close, you're just
Speaker 1: gonna have a situation. It doesn't matter, It doesn't matter
Speaker 1: if we could both be right now. The answer Zeke
Speaker 1: for Zeke, Zeke was mad. You know, he's being politically
Speaker 1: correct the way you're doing and not mad one of
Speaker 1: us matter the situation, because he would be next to
Speaker 1: me or next to Jim and be like, Yo, my
Speaker 1: man want to talk to you, and I'll be like
Speaker 1: who this and then be Jim and we'll both like yeah,
Speaker 1: come on man, and this in the phone way like
Speaker 1: in eight times. So he was trying to fix the
Speaker 1: the problem from day from day one, from the very
Speaker 1: very beginning, he was trying to fix it. Whether I
Speaker 1: was ready to fix it or Jim was ready to
Speaker 1: fix it or not, he was always there trying to
Speaker 1: fix the problem. And like he was about to say earlier,
Speaker 1: because basically to me, what he wanted to tell you
Speaker 1: is that he wants his credit for all them Old
Speaker 1: Boys songs and hey Ma songs. Because he sat in
Speaker 1: Michael Kaiser office every day for three months and basically
Speaker 1: told Mike Kaiser, you leave when I want you to leave,
Speaker 1: or I'll be here tomorrow or whatever, and Old Boy
Speaker 1: and Hey Mom became eventually the number one spun records
Speaker 1: and definitely in history, whether it's BC Boys, Old Coo,
Speaker 1: J Three, Third Base, whoever you want, even Jay Z.
Speaker 1: At the time before Kanye started breaking the records, those
Speaker 1: records were the number one spunt records in definitam history.
Speaker 1: And being that, Zeke sat in Michael Kaiser's office every
Speaker 1: day at radio, and then when Haymond came out and
Speaker 1: crossed over, he sat in ken Lanes that's the Z
Speaker 1: one hundred stations, you know, every day for months, put
Speaker 1: in Prussia. Nice pressure that the records became the best
Speaker 1: records in de jam history. And I think he's sponsible
Speaker 1: for those now. I think that's what he wanted. I
Speaker 1: think he was trying to get out of here, like
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get this out before we wrapped this up
Speaker 1: and then let niggas know that these songs basically not
Speaker 1: saying they wasn't good music, but it was a little
Speaker 1: elbow grease hues. So I got I got one more question,
Speaker 1: and I got three more questions from my nephew, nephews
Speaker 1: when I'm back. Yeah that when when when? When when
Speaker 1: me and you were speaking and we wasn't one one communicated?
Speaker 1: My name was like no, just chill. That's how cam is.
Speaker 1: He's telling me now like that Camus fly like that.
Speaker 1: He just doesn't. I'm supposed to speak to certain people
Speaker 1: you've never met, but but but his I just want
Speaker 1: to get to this right Internet, we all got Twitter,
Speaker 1: we all got do you als get locked up? There's
Speaker 1: this song to come out. What you was? Right? People
Speaker 1: are pointing to finger saying, man, they got to be
Speaker 1: talking about you. Well all right, I mean can't they
Speaker 1: gotta be talking about campus. Just be clear you just
Speaker 1: said that to me earlier. Actually anything So yeah, absolutely
Speaker 1: definitely this song comes out. I'm a journalist. Now you
Speaker 1: don't even know me. This is it first we've knowing
Speaker 1: me as a journalist, Like you know, these people are
Speaker 1: hearing me, and that's saying, look, no meows, it's going
Speaker 1: to slide. I'm not a gossip reporter. Don't report it
Speaker 1: or nothing, but being at you here, I have to
Speaker 1: ask that question. Um, this is record that comes out
Speaker 1: with Joel's is in jail or prior, and it seems
Speaker 1: like he's coming at you. Did you hear this record?
Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm talking about? So what happened
Speaker 1: in that situation, Well, Joel's was in jail when the record. Basically,
Speaker 1: I guess his girlfriend and his brother put the record
Speaker 1: Outum the album and he put out a mixtape by
Speaker 1: album or someone. He's in jail and so basically, um,
Speaker 1: I hear the record, sounds like it's about me. This
Speaker 1: to me, but I'm not gonna I'm not dissing Jim
Speaker 1: with duels. I'm just not dissing them on the record.
Speaker 1: So talking about them public publicly or whatever. If y'are
Speaker 1: mad at me, call I'm just not ever going to
Speaker 1: do that. But his girl called me, and uh, she
Speaker 1: explained to me, and I end up speaking to Jewels,
Speaker 1: and Jewels said that basically it's supposed to be too
Speaker 1: two sides of it. So it's when me and him
Speaker 1: wasn't speaking, it was that was his point of view,
Speaker 1: and he said he wrote my point of view, but
Speaker 1: he said instead of me him saying how I felt,
Speaker 1: he wanted me to write how he felt when Niggas
Speaker 1: wasn't speaking in jail. No, he had songs in his computer,
Speaker 1: and you know they're making no music in jail. I
Speaker 1: guess you got a Jewell got two million songs in computer.
Speaker 1: I don't know white for them out. So basically, that
Speaker 1: particular song he was saying it wasn't supposed to This
Speaker 1: is what he said that it was supposed to go
Speaker 1: on this album because he wanted me to do a
Speaker 1: verse or how he felt during that era when he
Speaker 1: was mad at me or I was mad at him
Speaker 1: or whatever, and I told him, you know this one
Speaker 1: y'all jail. We had this conversation and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that because just confusing the fans.
Speaker 1: They don't know if this is today, they don't know
Speaker 1: if this is, oh, this is I don't really get it.
Speaker 1: But I just did the concept. It would have been
Speaker 1: dope if it was a few years ago. But I
Speaker 1: just yeah, but I just didn't feel it as a
Speaker 1: purpose for that. But that's what he told me. Okay,
Speaker 1: cool too. I just spoke to her yesterday, so it's beautiful.
Speaker 1: It's beautiful. So let me get to one of my
Speaker 1: nephews questions. He wants to know when you look at
Speaker 1: the free bands, change I know as I can. Tom.
Speaker 1: You know you told me. You know, he told me,
Speaker 1: said I couldn't afford to change, and I want to
Speaker 1: be dip set so bad that he said it took
Speaker 1: me three days to soft the eagle that's on the
Speaker 1: basketball truphies, but sorted for three days and bought a
Speaker 1: little route. You think about this respect that. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: funked up. He's gonna he's gonna be mad. But so
Speaker 1: he's like, yo, free bands and he actually sent me
Speaker 1: a picture he ain't playing. Look he liked asked, y'all,
Speaker 1: what do you feel about free bands? Change? I mean,
Speaker 1: it's so good to be honest with you, my man,
Speaker 1: chubby baby, that's our family. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: right back, cam ain fucking with you, he laught, man, right, both,
Speaker 1: Let's get with my nigga. How you doing your right,
Speaker 1: my nigger? That's something being good to see you, man.
Speaker 1: So we don't know. We're on your questions right now,
Speaker 1: we're on the free bands. Do we feel like future?
Speaker 1: I was to say that, but I would I would
Speaker 1: know how you feel about the future. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: he basically took the eagle bird and put mgb all
Speaker 1: that and now that stage change, but that original change. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, hold on spirit, we're gonna leave right there.
Speaker 1: We feel about that camp, I don't feel the way
Speaker 1: I mean like with Diplomats and Woo thing. I think
Speaker 1: those are the best logos. That's not gonna go nowhere.
Speaker 1: And Futures Family, that's you know, that's my guy. Plus
Speaker 1: he was dealing with chubby Baby, Chubby Baby from the Bronx.
Speaker 1: But we met in Ohio, me and us Ohio. That's
Speaker 1: where we met at and uh, you know he's been
Speaker 1: in Atlanta working for Future and a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: other niggers. So he's the future uh a while. When
Speaker 1: that logo came out, he called and told me about
Speaker 1: it before it happened, So it was all good with me.
Speaker 1: Like I said, Future Family is all good. God damn it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got all your other questions, y'all. I al would
Speaker 1: have used you all your other questions. I'm looking at
Speaker 1: I'm I'm trying to be like a good journalist, so
Speaker 1: I'm looking at all your other questions. Yeah, I already
Speaker 1: are we already good that this is a great interview.
Speaker 1: And he told me he didn't trust me this is crazy.
Speaker 1: No reason told you told me? Last really told me?
Speaker 1: Last kills the man always trust I bad the best
Speaker 1: thing in the world. I make a piece. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll be gonna hit you back. We're gonna hit you back.
Speaker 1: Do not not listen? Listen listen when I got a shot?
Speaker 1: How my shot magically appear. Let's take another shot for
Speaker 1: Killer Killer, motherfucking camp A movie getting the horse horsepower point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, y'all take We need to understand again, we're
Speaker 1: taking this shot for him. We're taking this shot for horsepower.
Speaker 1: Why not let me look at Thanks for having me man,
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Listen to me camp Um. I know
Speaker 1: I said this to you kind of like off the air,
Speaker 1: but you're one of my most favorite people in the world.
Speaker 1: Our relationship in the beginning, what happened was I'm gonna
Speaker 1: blame that on our success because why we didn't keep going.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I feel like without you know,
Speaker 1: over bigging us up. Maybe I'm over bigging me up.
Speaker 1: I feel like we were like j and NAS, like
Speaker 1: we dealt with that kind of situation where you were
Speaker 1: super a man then I was super a man here
Speaker 1: and but we could have done some well marketable ship
Speaker 1: and still can and still can. And I just want
Speaker 1: to tell you how much I appreciate you from then,
Speaker 1: how much I appreciate you now, how much I appreciate
Speaker 1: y'all because I got to see y'all like I got
Speaker 1: to see I don't want to say I got to
Speaker 1: see you at the bottom, but I got to see
Speaker 1: y'all coming up likewise, and I got to see you
Speaker 1: at the top. And I've always been propped, So just
Speaker 1: in case you don't know that, always been proud of.
Speaker 1: One thing about this right now is like this bro
Speaker 1: hustling is gonna hustle and we're gonna get the back.
Speaker 1: And that's one thing I respected by everybody. Of course
Speaker 1: our friendship. But to see, like you said I mentioned
Speaker 1: ninety seven, h ninety six, whatever year, is to see
Speaker 1: that you're still doing this, you see it, you still
Speaker 1: look great, pause that you still get money. I respect
Speaker 1: that more than anything else. Of course, I friendship, But
Speaker 1: I don't like nigger. You know what. I hate to
Speaker 1: hang out. First, Yeah, I love you had everything. I
Speaker 1: know what. I don't like what people say you'd be like, yo,
Speaker 1: how you doing, and somebody be like Yeah, I'm just maintaining.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't want to hear you maintain it,
Speaker 1: Like I'm not really doing that. Maintaining ship And you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, that's another word that's like it
Speaker 1: wants depressing. How you doing maintaining? Yeah, my nigger, you
Speaker 1: just like when what I maintaining ship? Kevin Laos told
Speaker 1: me that and I ran with that for like fifteen
Speaker 1: twe years because you just go if you're just maintaining,
Speaker 1: you're satisfied with just getting by, And I'm not happy
Speaker 1: with just getting by, Like I got habits that I
Speaker 1: don't want to support. I want to keep doing. You
Speaker 1: get what I'm saying. So to say that, I'm saying
Speaker 1: that to say this, to see that you're still doing
Speaker 1: your shows, your second and you still could do songs
Speaker 1: if you want. It's about a few people, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But let's do it. Let's get the balls. Listen. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I always had this Independent, major
Speaker 1: debate debate when it comes to the Independent. The way Cam,
Speaker 1: Jim and Dip said, did the Independent is different for
Speaker 1: New York based at that time, It's not difference. No,
Speaker 1: they did it great as far as New York. But
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say is only independent base that
Speaker 1: was working was people from the South, people from Richmond, California.
Speaker 1: It wasn't working for them, you know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: that they wasn't once that it worked for in New
Speaker 1: York like it works. If what I'm saying about Cots wasn't,
Speaker 1: it wasn't a lie. Most other people other than we're
Speaker 1: going there and die. They're the only ones getting money.
Speaker 1: So that I could see it, fifty is coming from
Speaker 1: like here talking about you. So um, that's That's what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. But the way they did it independent,
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta salute that. I gotta sloop that
Speaker 1: I didn't see that not from New York. We other
Speaker 1: independent other than Rocket Fellow. There was no other independent people.
Speaker 1: Think about it Camp. No, they weren't independent. They were
Speaker 1: universe VERSU from the beginning because once DMX side that
Speaker 1: was definitely have university. The Locks were in the school. No,
Speaker 1: they were bad boy, yeah, and then they went then
Speaker 1: they moved over. So YEAHLL were the first independent of
Speaker 1: the independent company. People were independent with the major I
Speaker 1: just thought you mad independent period you know, independent, independent, independent,
Speaker 1: fucking with the independent, these other people with independent made
Speaker 1: That's that's right. Yeah, depending on the deal though, depending
Speaker 1: on the deal you have is how it is. If
Speaker 1: you own your masters, if you own your ship, but
Speaker 1: the end you can't own your masters. The major you can,
Speaker 1: you can the deal. It depends on the deal. Puff
Speaker 1: got his master's back. Now, eventually, if you work the system,
Speaker 1: you might get it. I'm in the process of that
Speaker 1: right now. Like I just got my master's back. Masters
Speaker 1: you want own in death Jam you don't. You don't want,
Speaker 1: you don't want the epic I'm working. They got Sony too.
Speaker 1: But so what's going on? Is this? So in case
Speaker 1: you ain't know, it's the thing I just found out
Speaker 1: about May ten years seven. Okay, you could go. You
Speaker 1: can re record your records right now, eight year statue
Speaker 1: limitation on your records. It's just like music. Yes, it's
Speaker 1: just a criminals. I just chart it out. So, so,
Speaker 1: for instance, who gets your super Doug ship forever? Well,
Speaker 1: right now it's Tommy. I forget it. Let's just use
Speaker 1: a random example. Let's just say I want to do
Speaker 1: oh boy over, I clear the sample everything I don't
Speaker 1: record the record right now, put out on streaming service
Speaker 1: and tells don't go they definitely on to get it
Speaker 1: get I go, get it to me right now, my bread,
Speaker 1: you record, got to record your everything, but this is
Speaker 1: the new version. Yeah, but you don't have to. You
Speaker 1: can say because people don't want to hear what they
Speaker 1: want to hear, you can record the exact same song
Speaker 1: you did today and put it out streaming because statue
Speaker 1: limitation on the on the music that how long they
Speaker 1: can actually own your ship and we don't. We don't
Speaker 1: be knowing ship like this right now. Yeah, well tell
Speaker 1: me no. I'm just telling you. So you could go
Speaker 1: and record everything over that you want to Yeah, seven,
Speaker 1: seven or eight. My Lloyder, me and my lawyer just
Speaker 1: went through this last week because I'm like, I want
Speaker 1: to go seven or yeah. Good, we could go do
Speaker 1: three fifty seven over any record. I want to do
Speaker 1: this over eight years over superdu is good. You go
Speaker 1: to make a little bit get checks right, you know
Speaker 1: that's an athorage a little nice. I like it, man,
Speaker 1: go ahead, thay much. But that's different publishing. Ye, that
Speaker 1: that's all I'm publishing. I don't I don't own. That's
Speaker 1: fucking genius. I had had no idea. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: own my masters from Warner Brothers. All the stuff that
Speaker 1: I did when I left, defin want to publish it. No,
Speaker 1: I was on a Sylum, but it was through uh yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly so. But my deal I hadded like seven years
Speaker 1: statue of lemons say and on that for in the deal.
Speaker 1: So top mask was Joey I. E. They gave you
Speaker 1: back all my masters, So I got all my masters
Speaker 1: from there. So this is in the deals when you
Speaker 1: sign them, it says it's somewhere in there. On that
Speaker 1: particular deal with Tom Muskus and Joey I, I don't
Speaker 1: think they ever had a vision of standing there too long,
Speaker 1: so they wanted to give all this back they shipped.
Speaker 1: So basically after seven years I got my ship back.
Speaker 1: I just got it back for like the last three
Speaker 1: or four years. So like all the ship killing season
Speaker 1: and the album, the movie, etcetera. Ey, thinking that I
Speaker 1: did on a Sylum, I owned them. The money is
Speaker 1: a death chair. That's saying that ain't money there. But
Speaker 1: that's the catalog catalog. But I could go if I
Speaker 1: want to put the time in, I go record the
Speaker 1: whole album everything we did it depth him over and
Speaker 1: still my traffic this way to go get it. It's
Speaker 1: a lot of work. That's why. That's why the question
Speaker 1: he acts is like you could go to label right
Speaker 1: and be like, yo, it's up the masses. You can
Speaker 1: give me. At least I could just go record the
Speaker 1: ship over and y'all don't get nothing, or y'all get
Speaker 1: whatever I stuff on my Instagram ca now social media
Speaker 1: you can drop. That's the process of it. You have
Speaker 1: to still get the clearance. Some people don't want to
Speaker 1: go do that headache having to pay the producer. You know,
Speaker 1: if it's a sample in it or whatever, you have
Speaker 1: to do it all over again. It's still the same process,
Speaker 1: but you could own it. It will be yours. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: hard crazy man. Do the whole worri for the over
Speaker 1: tragical bone down right. Now you've got some much some
Speaker 1: mean you got. You got niggas I funk with, like
Speaker 1: of course I funk with my nigga Johnny sitson Cinematic
Speaker 1: and and my nigga Gazia Empire. But you know, basically
Speaker 1: what they do is pay to git you on the
Speaker 1: top streaming services. Well so Spotify. What does it Spotify
Speaker 1: um wrap caveat, you know, the top playlists to play
Speaker 1: top playlists or whatever. But that's if you want to
Speaker 1: go that route to give them, which I do. I
Speaker 1: funk with them, but as cinematic, both of them. More
Speaker 1: with Cinematic the Empire, but I do business with Empire too.
Speaker 1: But the point being is you can go fucking get
Speaker 1: the distroct Kids account or a tune Core account right now,
Speaker 1: upload your music and that should be in your pocket
Speaker 1: thirty days, and then they come every thirty days straight
Speaker 1: to your pocket. So right now, that's what I tell
Speaker 1: the things. Now they'd be like, so I go to Major,
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeo, if you gotta bust the way it
Speaker 1: works right now? Everything you could it's analytics. So they
Speaker 1: could be like, you don't have this many Facebook friends,
Speaker 1: you don't have this many Internet um Instagram followers, you
Speaker 1: ain't got this many Twitter followers, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. But
Speaker 1: then when you do out all them numbers, you probably
Speaker 1: already set up with distroct Kids and tune Core and
Speaker 1: all that stream money coming to you. So what the
Speaker 1: funk you really need them for? Because they're not building
Speaker 1: artist from the ground up. No more, they're not done
Speaker 1: off from the ground up. They're going off your numbers. Yo,
Speaker 1: they ain't got this thing out. Fifteen millions streams on
Speaker 1: hits on YouTube, you got this many Now we want
Speaker 1: to funk with him. But at that point, if the
Speaker 1: artist is smart, they don't need you. But you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So that's the game right now. It's
Speaker 1: any artist that's out right now, you're like, y'all wish
Speaker 1: you all to them new artists, new artists. Um to
Speaker 1: be honest with you'all can have fun with a lot
Speaker 1: of artists. Man, I'd be curving because I enjoyed my piece.
Speaker 1: Like when you get an artist, they problems become your problems,
Speaker 1: like and then they'd be super cool. And then when
Speaker 1: they be your artists would be mad. Problems they didn't
Speaker 1: have before that they got now that become they became
Speaker 1: your artists. Like Yo, my rent backed up. I'm like,
Speaker 1: how long six years making like now? Man? Yeah? Like
Speaker 1: she like that like that weird? I was supposed to
Speaker 1: say that, Come on, how many of you? I don't
Speaker 1: even want the paper? Can't come on artist, artists and yourself.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonnaind you out. I got one kid man,
Speaker 1: so you could do your man one kid man. That's
Speaker 1: it so um because I heard you say in the
Speaker 1: rhyme you said you was gonna take Juju back, but
Speaker 1: you saw what the fari what was what? It sounds
Speaker 1: like you understand. I don't know, I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: asking so when I know when I broke up with
Speaker 1: her whatever, I guess. You know, we love and hip
Speaker 1: hop create the scenarios hard Safari running around, but a
Speaker 1: lot of people were sending it to me and you know,
Speaker 1: a little ship to stand the third And this is
Speaker 1: not to throw nobody under bucks. I don't have no
Speaker 1: problem with Safari, you have no problem with Juju or
Speaker 1: anything like that or whatever. But you know what when
Speaker 1: you was doing memes together, Yeah, like you know, I
Speaker 1: think I have an opportunity which you know, we won't
Speaker 1: get into the maybe'll rekindle ou situation if I wanted to,
Speaker 1: but that just kind of made it for me, like na,
Speaker 1: like no disrespect to so far, but you ain't got
Speaker 1: no type, like you know what I'm saying, Like it's
Speaker 1: just that's just two apples and orange, just big, like
Speaker 1: if you can mess with that note. And I'm not
Speaker 1: dissing them. I'm just like, that's your type. I'm not
Speaker 1: your type. No more respectful, respectfully, that's respectfully. I've never
Speaker 1: been stuck in my life. Please, I don't know what
Speaker 1: if you have. I'm a big big Elth fan. So
Speaker 1: if you have any big Elth story that you can
Speaker 1: tell me, big story, I really Uh damn. I got
Speaker 1: a lot of big eld stories. But they're like it's
Speaker 1: then if I say I'm it's still nigga's outside, that's
Speaker 1: gonna know what I'm talking about, the fun Like I'm
Speaker 1: trying to think, like, for instance, it's big I used
Speaker 1: to snap. The nigga's cruel person snapping, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and the niggas he was talking about still
Speaker 1: be outside. Not that I'm gonna talk, not that it's
Speaker 1: a problem, but it's just one of the situations like
Speaker 1: I don't want to bring up a nigga. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just hard man. His face, nigga's rude. He's like
Speaker 1: your mother's gonna die tomorrow, right, Yeah, talk like that
Speaker 1: to people. You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, like
Speaker 1: if we'll be rolling, dicing and nigga loud, you like
Speaker 1: your mother's gonna die to more anyway, So about that,
Speaker 1: and I'll be like, yo, this nigga is harsh man
Speaker 1: really harsh. But yeah, I can't really get into the
Speaker 1: best ones because his friends, his friends that he funk
Speaker 1: with that he used to talk about it's still outside, So, um,
Speaker 1: I'm really trying I think of a cool putting together
Speaker 1: Children of the Corn he said it was his. Yeah, absolutely, yeah,
Speaker 1: he had to deal so he you know, he's seen
Speaker 1: Nickel movements was popping off, so you know, he round
Speaker 1: it up. It's a song on this album called eight
Speaker 1: is Enough and he put me on that album on
Speaker 1: that song. So you know, I didn't really know anybody
Speaker 1: else on the record, so it was a privilege for
Speaker 1: him to put me on the record. And just the
Speaker 1: fact that he thought I could wrap. I appreciated that.
Speaker 1: Was it crazy that one record was the same sample
Speaker 1: that Puck had for what was the record the podcast
Speaker 1: after he passed It was the It was a record
Speaker 1: that you're talking about, man, It was one of the
Speaker 1: It was the American Dream. Yeah, yeah, I mean we
Speaker 1: we had it first. Res just wanted to use it
Speaker 1: before somebody else had it because Biggie I used um
Speaker 1: the bar sample for one more chance, And actually big
Speaker 1: L had that simple first on his ship having a
Speaker 1: big A couple of times. Yeah, Bigel had it first
Speaker 1: and then Biggie used it, and uh that Shi blew
Speaker 1: out the world. I changed the whole scenario for Biggie
Speaker 1: after that record came out. Yeah, how did you get?
Speaker 1: How did you? And phase on Glover? What's the names on?
Speaker 1: What is what is this? What is going on now?
Speaker 1: One day he was just talking reckless about jay Z.
Speaker 1: Wasn't you the street money? I just chimed in like
Speaker 1: I don't like, I don't think you're kind of out
Speaker 1: of pocket right there, because just just choming in like
Speaker 1: everybody else. Then he just started doing wow me, like
Speaker 1: photoshop pictures, acting like I was gay and doing gay ship.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm gonna just go to all your videos.
Speaker 1: You're doing wow gay ship. If we're this and gay,
Speaker 1: I have a problem with gay people at all, nothing
Speaker 1: like that. But he was just calling me and I'm
Speaker 1: not having sexual so I like, if we're going this route,
Speaker 1: us have fun. You got nigg smacking him on the ass.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Humping him, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, all in his movies and all type of ships.
Speaker 1: So I like, you should have probably picked a better
Speaker 1: topic then to go to this round, because I'm a
Speaker 1: I'm gonna clown you have fun doing that ship. I
Speaker 1: like Instagram, social media that should just like yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like you know what, But I tell me because it's
Speaker 1: like a it's it's a it's a Chevy on top
Speaker 1: of the world cream porch for me because when I
Speaker 1: say that, it's because it's extra it brings money to
Speaker 1: the table, et cetera. Cool. But I didn't come up
Speaker 1: in that error, so I don't panic it got niggas
Speaker 1: would come up in the Instagram error. Who if they
Speaker 1: don't get this many likes and there's many heads of
Speaker 1: this that they probably pin not probably definitely not seen
Speaker 1: it happen, or they're not feeling me anymore. My likes
Speaker 1: are going down. This is going down. So they panicked
Speaker 1: because they came up in the social media ever and
Speaker 1: that's what and to me, I Didin't this ship all
Speaker 1: extra cool? We're gonna bring some breadthrough social media, through
Speaker 1: the internet, etcetera, etcetera. But I'm not gonna panic if
Speaker 1: ship don't get a hundred thousand likes or if this
Speaker 1: don't get uh a million views or whatever the case is,
Speaker 1: because I still got wild bread. This ship is just
Speaker 1: extra topping on the cake for when for making it.
Speaker 1: But people panic over this because they came up in it.
Speaker 1: That's just not me. The same thing that that allows
Speaker 1: a dope talking, Yeah, the same thing that makes it dope.
Speaker 1: It's the same, the same engines in your brain that
Speaker 1: that makes you want to like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So that's why the kids are going crazy because they
Speaker 1: like dope fings. It was the whole doctor were talking
Speaker 1: we talked about we're talking about with Pitbull, the whole
Speaker 1: documentary that the guys that created the social media networks
Speaker 1: they made it that way. That the documentary you're doing
Speaker 1: ye on you or on dip set Okay, what's her
Speaker 1: name is documentary? I don't have a name it. We're
Speaker 1: in the middle of production now. Because what happens is this,
Speaker 1: I've been and you too. Most of your adult life
Speaker 1: has been publicized. So niggas don't think that you had
Speaker 1: a life before. You've been before you got the man,
Speaker 1: before I was the man. Yeah, exactly, I know what
Speaker 1: you said when you said you was Hollywood for the
Speaker 1: man before. Yeah, exactly before the yallar was the y'all exactly.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. So most of my adult life
Speaker 1: has been captured this album and that album, and then
Speaker 1: niggas just think that's all it is. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like, so now you got to realize what
Speaker 1: I'm doing. This I'm doing like before you've been gaining music.
Speaker 1: I'm doing two two parts haul them in the late
Speaker 1: seventies and through the eighties. This is sound a documentary.
Speaker 1: This sounds like a reenacted documentary. No, it's a documentary
Speaker 1: docu drama, like like Ri's. It's the real you're talking about.
Speaker 1: It's people acting you out. No, No, it'd be stock
Speaker 1: footage and people doing interviews and maybe old. But what
Speaker 1: it is. What I want to do is from the
Speaker 1: late seventies to ear and through the eighties. I want
Speaker 1: to show that I was brought up in you get
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like, and probably a five six block radius.
Speaker 1: There's so many dope people from the late seventy early
Speaker 1: eighties and big time drug dealers or number runners or
Speaker 1: anything else like that that that needs to be publicized
Speaker 1: to make the realize who the niggut turned out to be,
Speaker 1: what made me the nigg got turned out to be
Speaker 1: so fucking uh. I want to talk about Fritz, I
Speaker 1: want to talk about Doug ee Lime. I want to
Speaker 1: talk about all these prominent figures in the four or
Speaker 1: five block radius to make me the person that I
Speaker 1: am growing up, you know, I want to talk about
Speaker 1: Big Allen, what it was, you know, his demas and
Speaker 1: his dad for on. These is all my friends, that
Speaker 1: the stories. I don't want to tell this story because
Speaker 1: it's not my story to tell. But if you ever
Speaker 1: see the movie City of Gods, that you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's my story for big galls and nigger story.
Speaker 1: I'm the cameraman, you know I'm not. I'm not the
Speaker 1: nigger who was. Yeah, but I'm just saying I can
Speaker 1: tell you everything about the whole story. I wasn't out
Speaker 1: there killing with them niggers with killing each other. But
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I can tell you
Speaker 1: everything that happened, and a lot I need to be
Speaker 1: explained because like right now, right, I'm a superstitious nigger
Speaker 1: right like cut Poles, I mean you're working together. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I like, I don't handicapped Parker. I don't
Speaker 1: when I park, I walk around the handicap park I
Speaker 1: don't even want my feet to touch it the space
Speaker 1: period because yeah, yeah, yeah, because that could be your
Speaker 1: spot if you want it. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That can really be your Yeah, you can make it
Speaker 1: your spot. But the more of the story is, like
Speaker 1: my block, it's nothing in the world. It's nothing in
Speaker 1: this whole world right now that could make me. I
Speaker 1: could go Hunt forty Street, I go down Hunt thirty
Speaker 1: nine Fifth Avenue. It's nothing in this world that can
Speaker 1: make me walk and get out of my car on
Speaker 1: a Hunt thirty ninth Street between seven Atlantic Avenue because
Speaker 1: three niggers I know got popped, like in the twenty
Speaker 1: five ft space. So I'm never getting out my car
Speaker 1: on that block. I might go down, I don't. I'm
Speaker 1: just like, don't go to the Taco shot. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna go. Yeah, I don't go there because one
Speaker 1: of my best friends person I love, when he left there.
Speaker 1: Shot you're telling them, I don't. I don't. I won't.
Speaker 1: I look at it, but I won't right certain stayed outside, right,
Speaker 1: But I dig it like, I'm not typing that. I'm
Speaker 1: just not gonna do certain ship. So I'm superstitious like
Speaker 1: that though. But anyway, the story needs to be told
Speaker 1: on what I grew up into and what made me,
Speaker 1: you know, not trust certain niggains or not you it's
Speaker 1: not yeah, and then whatever I move, I move or whatever,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, it needs to be a little
Speaker 1: more light shine on my neighborhood. So that's what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do my first couple episodes before we even getting
Speaker 1: the dip set and my music career, anything, basketball career,
Speaker 1: anything like that. But if ship is so rich, why
Speaker 1: wouldn't it be like a re enacting ship? If I
Speaker 1: funk that question, if somebody's gonna play came run in
Speaker 1: the movie you're talking about, like with the wood Take Ship, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that can all happen. But I think this
Speaker 1: is set that the pet for that. Yeah. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: they're making it tomorrow. Who are you picking to play you?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't even know what they're gona
Speaker 1: like me. Bro, it's hard, but that's it's you. You You,
Speaker 1: This is really you play Alphle How did you do
Speaker 1: your research for Alphole. I lived in halland if I
Speaker 1: did a bad job, I wouldn't be able to live
Speaker 1: that damn. Like you know what I'm gonna do, go
Speaker 1: back home. And then when I did that movie, this
Speaker 1: when I was outside every day, like I was on
Speaker 1: Lenox Avenue every day, when a beat out of no,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying you know, you know, I'm just saying
Speaker 1: that because um, you know Damon, Damon's like going to
Speaker 1: produce that movie, had a little leverage, and then um,
Speaker 1: Dame lobby for me to get that spot. He wanted,
Speaker 1: They wanted another actor to get it, but they were
Speaker 1: stuck on with Harris. So Dame told him, if you
Speaker 1: really want what Harris, you gotta get me camera and
Speaker 1: he did good. So that's how that went. But but
Speaker 1: I said it earlier in the interview. I was like,
Speaker 1: like superstar status, household name. I think after paying the Fall, yeah,
Speaker 1: absolutely have to pay for you gotta realize its painting.
Speaker 1: Fall came out one year there, old boy and Haymond
Speaker 1: and diplomats and Jim Jones, didn't you well it was
Speaker 1: like a domino effect of a lot of ship there.
Speaker 1: So yeah, after that, it wasn't it was Yeah, you
Speaker 1: described you to do you play the great part to me.
Speaker 1: I I'm gonna tell you what my sick. My ship
Speaker 1: was all freestyle. What happened was one year. Uh I
Speaker 1: knew Griselda. I didn't because this just sounds crazy. I
Speaker 1: just the way describers was tart. Let me just excuse
Speaker 1: me because we're tart. It might be wrong too, right,
Speaker 1: But I knew that there was some Colombians and queens. Oh,
Speaker 1: I did not be personally, but Queen's we had the cocaine.
Speaker 1: We didn't have to go up town. And I've seen
Speaker 1: Alpo and Rich. That's the ship I'm describing, Nika popping
Speaker 1: the wheelies all that that was them. Niggas was in
Speaker 1: forty Projects and that's what they were doing the same
Speaker 1: exact scene that I'm striving. And I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't get what you say because they're like, y'll listen,
Speaker 1: describe alphole but over exaggerated. I was like, alright, cool,
Speaker 1: I don't even have to kind of over exaggerated. I
Speaker 1: kind of it's gonna use what I've seen in forty Projects.
Speaker 1: One day I went to see Uncle Wise and forty
Speaker 1: Projects or basically is one of those things and I've
Speaker 1: seen Alphole Rich and I forget whatever whatever one of
Speaker 1: these other guys is. But they was out there because queens.
Speaker 1: We had it at this time, and they were showing off.
Speaker 1: That's when I knew what the Hall of Nigga was.
Speaker 1: The Hall of Nigga is one of the Papa Willie
Speaker 1: in forty projects, just got killer neighborhood. But these things
Speaker 1: wanted to be like like yo, yoa gonna remember who
Speaker 1: we were when we left. But they bore all the drugs.
Speaker 1: It's a fact. And I was like wow. So when
Speaker 1: I got the role, you know that my part some
Speaker 1: of y'all shy did in Canada, right, most of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: My sip was on a huntred fur. My sip was
Speaker 1: in hall. So they said, yo, and I just I
Speaker 1: just a freestyle that most of the ship. I freestyle.
Speaker 1: Charles Stone was super dop. It was I havenau. The
Speaker 1: script was whacked, the clothing was whacking. I was like, yo, dame,
Speaker 1: they're gonna move back. No not. The script was wack.
Speaker 1: The dialogue so what they did was yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: divalogue was trash to use their dialogue. Yeah, So what
Speaker 1: Charles to do was you didn't use their dialogue me. No,
Speaker 1: he he gave me. He gave me two takes. I
Speaker 1: would read the dialogue that was in the script and
Speaker 1: he'd like saying, how for real you would say that
Speaker 1: if he was out there. So ninety percent of my
Speaker 1: dialogue was improv because shaw Stones understood that he's a
Speaker 1: dope director, but he did um you know, how to
Speaker 1: capture and he didn't like Daddy day Care or something
Speaker 1: like that CEO C movie. You know, I'm the girl
Speaker 1: girl really thought. I really thought she was left dive
Speaker 1: man playing that part off. He's gonna capturing times? Man, Oh,
Speaker 1: what what's kill the season? What we're gonna do last
Speaker 1: season parts? You know that's big niggas. Niggas really want
Speaker 1: that man. So yeah, let's put together. Start to go
Speaker 1: fund me, start to go fund me see him. Niggers
Speaker 1: really wanted. He can't really independent. Do you want us
Speaker 1: to man all the killing season? Where we filmed that movie?
Speaker 1: I was crazy. I would get up. I would watch
Speaker 1: a movie and have to pay the yeah, and everybody
Speaker 1: goes listen, everybody's starving for you to act like I'm
Speaker 1: doing my own ship because you know what, I think
Speaker 1: it's me Broma's roles like be a florist. You know
Speaker 1: what hurts me mad? Now I'm old. I'm not you know,
Speaker 1: I can't comprehend. But you know what hurt me bad
Speaker 1: ro When I went to see Minster Society in the
Speaker 1: movie theater and then the next time I went to
Speaker 1: movie theater to see Old Dog, he was inkwell, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, na, I'm not dog. Like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like I noticed he's acting. Yeah, he really
Speaker 1: acted about telling you at that particular time like I'll
Speaker 1: play I play against the forest florist. Now, I'm just saying.
Speaker 1: At that time, I wanted taking roles like It's ship
Speaker 1: with Tom Hanks stayed for me on type of ship.
Speaker 1: Somebout Tom doing my own movie, and I gotta say, man,
Speaker 1: I spend like a hunting son down too on it
Speaker 1: on it. But I was waking up, like right, what
Speaker 1: do we I saw that Shi in order like I
Speaker 1: just that there is a story here, we show the
Speaker 1: me in here, we have a shoot I watched heat
Speaker 1: one name like, yo, my sister, I'm like, I want
Speaker 1: to have a shootout. She like, if you wait next week,
Speaker 1: we could do it. For I wanted tomorrow She's like,
Speaker 1: give me two days. Can We just had to shoot
Speaker 1: out and I made this. That ship was off the
Speaker 1: top of my head. It was no script. We ain't
Speaker 1: nobody had no paperwork, stared on nothing, one nigga period.
Speaker 1: I just got the masters the rights back to it
Speaker 1: a silence part of my master's getting back. So basically
Speaker 1: they at the rights in the movie. And then um,
Speaker 1: I got my music back, and then I got Killer
Speaker 1: season back probably about eleven months ago. Show now on it.
Speaker 1: Oh Dad, this is right, I only got you got anything.
Speaker 1: You the reason why I got my business perfect like that.
Speaker 1: Let it's just a basic thing that me and my
Speaker 1: lady got together. Close shoes, accessories, waste, trainers, you need
Speaker 1: we got, you know what I mean. And it really
Speaker 1: comes off stemming off a Killer because everything he did,
Speaker 1: if he saw something, he wanted to know how to
Speaker 1: own it. You know what I'm saying. He don't want
Speaker 1: to be a part of it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: He wanted to own He made the tire, he wanted
Speaker 1: to make the tire so good that they become his tire.
Speaker 1: So with that and everybody moving forth, I don't even
Speaker 1: knew what to do because of him, and that's how
Speaker 1: I had the stories about ten years now. But you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, definitely, it's www dot my perfect
Speaker 1: pid dot net. You know what I'm saying, Definitely, ladies
Speaker 1: going there from super small to five X. Now, Mom,
Speaker 1: I think it's my last question. It's gotta be gotta be.
Speaker 1: I gotta peak this last one little off this deserve ship.
Speaker 1: Do you think that y'all brung it to the furthest
Speaker 1: stent with that, oh, the liquor, yeah, the look at
Speaker 1: this yeah, uh killing with further, you know, be honest
Speaker 1: with you. That's John. There was a lot of Jim
Speaker 1: Jim connect. I was more of a face even though
Speaker 1: he's you know, the money was all good, but Jim
Speaker 1: handled a lot of that, like a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: Jim needs, Like Jim went to Cotch. He's the one
Speaker 1: one not wanting to go to cots Jim felts people.
Speaker 1: You know, Jim brought a lot of ship to the table.
Speaker 1: So while he was getting along with him not getting along,
Speaker 1: I played my position, even though my position was still
Speaker 1: the same as his. But I let him handle that
Speaker 1: ship like that's a lot of ship to me and
Speaker 1: Jim do today when it comes to business and maybe
Speaker 1: in some shift for diplomat going on, uh clothing deal
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm talking to home like I handle it,
Speaker 1: let me know what we get. But then it might
Speaker 1: be a skateboard deal, and be like, yo, I'm just like,
Speaker 1: you know, about to bust these mood funds dot dot.
Speaker 1: So we don't always gotta be around each other as
Speaker 1: we communicating. Let me know you're about to be two
Speaker 1: and eight thousand for hat deal, or it might be
Speaker 1: a skateboard deal for for you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like I don't got to be there, just let me
Speaker 1: know what the numbers is and vice versa. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like that's trust too. Yeah, absolutely, because
Speaker 1: we got some ship that's about to come up. I
Speaker 1: didn't even tell you, but I got it's a surprise. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna really Yeah, let's be clear. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest. I love your brothers, I appreciate, I'm so
Speaker 1: glad everything everything, But y'all all the actually first guests
Speaker 1: and never drink or smoke it out. That's not that's
Speaker 1: not because these niggs drink and smoke smoking a black
Speaker 1: and I don't know what what this black and is about.
Speaker 1: Let's be honest with y'all. Seen you show and I'd
Speaker 1: be like, niggas look crazy, funked up up your small
Speaker 1: we're not good to talk about it. I wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: do that. I don't see things up here. I don't
Speaker 1: know if people gold. I've seen the way different, different way.
Speaker 1: Let's just tell you something before people put up the
Speaker 1: drink chance. We begged them, don't get drunk, don't smoke,
Speaker 1: just come so we could do it together. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, that's what the celebration. Listen, you know,
Speaker 1: god less versus for taking our celebration, you know, thinking
Speaker 1: and making it theirs. And that's no problem because you
Speaker 1: know what. You don't have to laugh that hard, all right,
Speaker 1: but if you're right, but you know, god less versus
Speaker 1: for taking that, that's what this is. It's a celebration.
Speaker 1: So just in case I didn't say it, because you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know if your fans have been telling you
Speaker 1: this is the reason why they want you to come
Speaker 1: on Drink Champs, it's because how how much I appreciate you.
Speaker 1: You've been a part of not only my you know,
Speaker 1: CNN when when once come on with to Jail. That's
Speaker 1: my first freestyle with someone outside of my barrow all
Speaker 1: side of people that I worked with, but not only that,
Speaker 1: uh my solo career. You know bad from TV. I said,
Speaker 1: I called you earlier? What what? And that was a
Speaker 1: disrespect to band from TV because band for TV was
Speaker 1: the people that I considered my closest friends. So that's
Speaker 1: why I wish you would have called me back then
Speaker 1: when we talked about that earlier. But but that and
Speaker 1: what was this last question I got? Is Perrie dogging? Right?
Speaker 1: Take another shot? What's your memory a band from TV?
Speaker 1: I remember when I wanted to be was hard to
Speaker 1: be was so hard and I wanted to rap longer.
Speaker 1: And he was like, Kim, I gotta be trouble. I
Speaker 1: think it's troubler. Yeah, And I was like, yo, let
Speaker 1: me just go crazy like him. You gotta keep it,
Speaker 1: you gotta keep it sixteen I'm like, this be too
Speaker 1: hard to do. Sixteen bars many. I don't remember this camp,
Speaker 1: so you gotta school me. Did you hear anybody else's
Speaker 1: verse at that time? Really? I just now I didn't
Speaker 1: nobody else verse. I just I just heard the beat,
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeo this, I didn't know Locks
Speaker 1: and nobody was gonna be on there. We appreciate your
Speaker 1: ship ship all right, so weerate this question. Reiterated, relaxed.
Speaker 1: You didn't know no one else was on that record
Speaker 1: for band, for TV. You just played the beef for me,
Speaker 1: elect lady. I don't remember the studio, but I remember
Speaker 1: I ain't getting a lot of money. I don't remember.
Speaker 1: I do remember when I heard it. I was like, damn, man,
Speaker 1: I would have probably did something else because I heard
Speaker 1: the Locks on it. Afterwards, then Pun was on it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you killed Now I appreciate it, but I still was.
Speaker 1: I was like, it's nothing like in my opinion is
Speaker 1: just like damn, I wish I would. I didn't know
Speaker 1: nobody was gonna be on the record, period. Not saying
Speaker 1: I didn't appreciate. I didn't throw to me a nory
Speaker 1: record though I didn't know who else was gonna be.
Speaker 1: Everybody else on the record that other people on today
Speaker 1: hear their verses. Honestly, it was how did that process
Speaker 1: go with everybody else? It was nature was in the
Speaker 1: studio called hunt called cam cam always was in Man,
Speaker 1: I think I'm twenty blocks away. I'm good you came.
Speaker 1: You heard the ship slave this ship and just laugh. Okay,
Speaker 1: but everybody else here the other verses, I didn't know
Speaker 1: if we was I was gonna put hooks in there.
Speaker 1: So he's probably right when he says when he says, yo,
Speaker 1: I just played him to be. I wanted to keep
Speaker 1: going rapping. I remember he's like Cam, so you just
Speaker 1: never told people there was other I can't live his story.
Speaker 1: His other part of the story is helping me, shoping
Speaker 1: mild the part of the story. But really what it
Speaker 1: was was I thought I was gonna do a hook
Speaker 1: but it was Nature. Then it was Pun, and it
Speaker 1: was Cam, and I got them all three on the
Speaker 1: same exact day, no, same exact night. And the reason
Speaker 1: why I remember it was it was an electric Lady,
Speaker 1: was because I went downstairs because one of my boys
Speaker 1: went to Great Papayas and I went downstairs because Pun
Speaker 1: was never supposed to be on the record. You talked
Speaker 1: about PM wasn't supposed to be on the record. I
Speaker 1: was supposed to put you in Nature on the record.
Speaker 1: That was my idea. But then I went downstairs to
Speaker 1: Great Policies. One of my dudes was eating the frank
Speaker 1: and I was like, I just wanted to make fun
Speaker 1: of this nigga, and I went and pun lay the verse.
Speaker 1: When pun lay Diverse, I was like, yo, I gotta
Speaker 1: put put cam on this, and you were like twenty
Speaker 1: blocks away. I forgot. I think he was in a
Speaker 1: hip factory. I think it was a block hit factory.
Speaker 1: But you didn't know anybody else was on this verse. Okay,
Speaker 1: so let's just end this with this. Do you think
Speaker 1: you had the best version of Badman TV? Uh? I
Speaker 1: don't know. I have to listen to it again, but
Speaker 1: I really, I'm really a big fan of when Jada
Speaker 1: and Styles go back to back, I'm a big fan of.
Speaker 1: That's very humble, you know like that. Then also, you know,
Speaker 1: what's your part as well? You're saying I had the
Speaker 1: best part. You say that can Yeah, at least I'm
Speaker 1: not talking. I'm saying I'm not your lot. Fun was
Speaker 1: one of the best to the club. See, that's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. When you ab all that ship, you have
Speaker 1: to put yourself in different minds, you in the car,
Speaker 1: or you in the business or whatever when you're in
Speaker 1: the club. But for the club, you had the verse right.
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