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Speaker 1: Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of The Black Effect

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Speaker 1: and I Heart Radio and it Drink Chat mothering podcast.

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Speaker 1: He's a legendary Queen's rappers. He segre's your boy here,

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Speaker 1: no r He's a Miami hippopon is d j e fn.

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Speaker 1: Together they drinking up with some of the biggest players

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Speaker 1: in the most professional unprofessional podcast and yet number one

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Speaker 1: sorts for Drunk mother is New year' z just for

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Speaker 1: Drinking Champs. Trink Up? Would it good? Be? Hopefully should be?

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Speaker 1: To see your boy? And what up? Is d J

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Speaker 1: e F And it's just drink Chats, motherfucking y'all? Ya

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Speaker 1: makes up now right now? When I tell you this

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Speaker 1: is probably the most requested guests in Drink Champ's history.

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Speaker 1: The man is one of the most efficient hustlers in

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Speaker 1: this game. When I first met this brother, they were

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Speaker 1: doing card whales and he had everybody grown to ask

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Speaker 1: people from the record labor card whales. I wanted to

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Speaker 1: see men not looking an Olympic gym or some ship semn.

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Speaker 1: His brother is influential. If he says we're pink, thank god,

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Speaker 1: damn it, motherfucker's this gonna were pink he's put on

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Speaker 1: people ilustrious career, made one of the illest movies on

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Speaker 1: his own and major and independent. He's still out here.

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Speaker 1: It's fucking his NIAVL right now. I love it. I

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Speaker 1: think that same y'all. My name. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: different nationalities to change the neighbor but keep sucking the

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Speaker 1: neighbor man. This man, like I said, it's influential. He's

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Speaker 1: put on other people that likes Jim Jones, Juel Santana,

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Speaker 1: you know, Freaky Zeki. These guys have changed the world

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Speaker 1: with when when dip set ran Ship New York was

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Speaker 1: New York mixtape, game Over came over, took over the rock.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna ask about all that Biggie Smalls I spoke

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Speaker 1: to the other day. He said, Biggie, that's one of

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Speaker 1: the biggest last request was to make sure Cameron gets

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Speaker 1: a deal. So in case y'all don't understand who the

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Speaker 1: hell I'm introducing, we did introducing killer motherfucking camera. Let

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Speaker 1: me sprek some creed man out real, spreate some creed

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Speaker 1: and there you know what I'm saying, kill the motherfucking

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Speaker 1: I can't tell you how proud I am to get

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Speaker 1: you listen, I'm gonna be honest. Your fans and our

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Speaker 1: fans are out niggas, like I can't even take a

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Speaker 1: mess with you. As soon as I take a person,

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Speaker 1: we're there chests stretch. So me and you spoke the

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Speaker 1: other day. I think he was having lunch. I think

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Speaker 1: when we said and you said, yo, man said, Duke

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Speaker 1: told me wait for the culture. That my saying I

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Speaker 1: need to do it for the coaching man in my

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Speaker 1: comments and all that, so ip people can make out

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Speaker 1: make you this is this is all right? When when

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Speaker 1: everybody's top five, when you when when the person speaks

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Speaker 1: about a person's top five and big just as repeatedly

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Speaker 1: a part of that conversation, and when you know that

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Speaker 1: that was big. One of the biggest last requests was

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Speaker 1: to make sure that you gotta do because you wrote

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Speaker 1: crush on you for the Little Seeds part, not a

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Speaker 1: Little Kim part. Like if you listen to the album

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Speaker 1: version Little Seasons by something, I guess they couldn't get

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Speaker 1: Little Kim in the studio whatever you gotta ask on that,

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Speaker 1: but for a Little Seas part, yeall wrote that, So

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Speaker 1: how is that like, um, you got the call from

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Speaker 1: now what happened is they wanted to makes the right

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Speaker 1: like six songs for Kim or Sees or whoever. So

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Speaker 1: they paid him thirty thousand for like five songs and

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Speaker 1: he gave me five thousand for one of them and

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Speaker 1: crushed on you was to joint. So uh, Mace learned

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Speaker 1: it when and then did it after when when it

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Speaker 1: came out went platinum. Then I was like, I did it.

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Speaker 1: I'm one of my shot. That's how that went. But

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Speaker 1: they paid Mace to write some songs for him, and

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Speaker 1: Mace came to me to get it. So let me

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Speaker 1: ask you. I noticed is like pushing the story farther along.

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Speaker 1: But Big all of a sudden dies because Big you

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Speaker 1: met Big? Yeah, and so what what what was that exchange? Like, Um,

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Speaker 1: Mace took me the Bigg's house because I guess Big

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Speaker 1: was looking for artists. Uh. I got to his crib.

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Speaker 1: He had two bitches. His leg was broke. I think

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Speaker 1: he's in the car so that he had two bitches

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Speaker 1: in the bed and he was like a Biggie rhyme.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah he was. He just was like yello, man.

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Speaker 1: He wanted to say another kid that makes both them

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Speaker 1: and Mace was like Nae Kim is to do cam

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Speaker 1: really got it kind of yeah, yeah, definitely. So he

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Speaker 1: uh he put on like fifteen beats are beat. He

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Speaker 1: put on our rap to it. I used to have

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Speaker 1: mad wraps in my pocket, written wraps, no phone wraps, like,

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Speaker 1: so I just wrapped every beat and he's like that

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Speaker 1: said enough, I want to sign you. Then he called um.

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Speaker 1: I was like, bet, let's do the deal. So then

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Speaker 1: he passed away and they happened to be shooting. They

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Speaker 1: always love big popa video and harm because that was

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Speaker 1: my question because back in the days, if someone passed

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Speaker 1: a win, like you know, we didn't have like communication

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Speaker 1: like how we we didn't have Instagram, So how had

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Speaker 1: he passed away? How did you get Um? Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: see harm it. Always loved big paper video shoot and

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Speaker 1: I stepped to him. I'm like, yo, I'm gonna do

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Speaker 1: a big one to sign that. He's like, now I'm

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Speaker 1: in the middle of a finish up a deal with

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Speaker 1: Epic and as soon as I do, I'm gonna give

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Speaker 1: you the deal. And that's how it went. Just like that,

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Speaker 1: just ran down on him like what are we doing?

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Speaker 1: Oh god, damn god, damn. Miss some lost to that

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Speaker 1: I think one of the verses that you kicked the

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Speaker 1: verse for one of my old you haven't set up

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Speaker 1: and I brought the free style. You told me that

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Speaker 1: this was a verse you kicked forbid. Ok I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I told you that. Yeah, you do the

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Speaker 1: free stuff for Okay, I'm I can't. I can't say

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Speaker 1: about our roles do with you. I can get your

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Speaker 1: own bottom. Thank you enough. Okay, this is killer kid.

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Speaker 1: I've been a lot of money with a lot of

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Speaker 1: thugs and a lot of drugs. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I might start the ship out with one of your

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Speaker 1: bitch as the biggest party for stunning I'm saying, but

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Speaker 1: right now with my day a e f hes about

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Speaker 1: to play something exclusive ship, So back the funk about

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Speaker 1: our face if you ain't talking about no cheesecakes ship.

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Speaker 1: She wanted to check the City Chian. That kid is

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Speaker 1: latest man's obligation fixing conturation cat sack. Strangely, those he

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Speaker 1: changed bes paid my old team more so they could

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Speaker 1: play at b frame me inside the Blue three used

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Speaker 1: me with two keys, blue Chi and movie and me

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Speaker 1: playing group be who cheats The two bees even got

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Speaker 1: the coat that I trist in my Lucy. Got to

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Speaker 1: make arrangements. Before arrangements, say what's to say to say?

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Speaker 1: What's I cave it? But they's repentance before the sentence.

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Speaker 1: Just got to catch that girl that I was friends with.

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Speaker 1: It seems she was even my key from the visas

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Speaker 1: flight twenty three easton because the region her day was

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Speaker 1: Nat took a cab straight to Ltwaia cour at the

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Speaker 1: checking body killing. I don't remember. I don't even remember that.

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Speaker 1: You don't remember it, Na, I ain't gone. I'll be

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Speaker 1: listening to this ship like that. Remember, No, No, I

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Speaker 1: don't remember. Was too good that perfectly? One take? What

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Speaker 1: a big house? No know what I'm saying when it?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I'll be on that like that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: one take boys, man, So let's get to twenty nine.

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Speaker 1: See and what the fun is going on with tway

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Speaker 1: nine s she's just stalking up with you? How to

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Speaker 1: like the stalking nothing? I mean, let's and man, it's

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Speaker 1: it's all. It's all proof case shit go left. You

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Speaker 1: gotta tape all that ship. You never know when it Mike.

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Speaker 1: First of all, it's in the complexion for the connections

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Speaker 1: on her side, so you never know when she's gonna

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Speaker 1: go right or wrong. But you know, I'm single. I'm

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Speaker 1: having fun. That's what's about. But this is what I got,

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Speaker 1: so I gotta get in your business bad. First, What

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Speaker 1: was the first? What was part one? I didn't see

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Speaker 1: part one. I've seen part DM me. She DM me.

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Speaker 1: It was in my d M s and she was

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Speaker 1: taping me from a terrorists. So when she was taping me,

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Speaker 1: I just posted it because she's like, she went out

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Speaker 1: of my black baby, So I thought that was funny.

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Speaker 1: I think that's funny too. Yeah, I thought that was funny.

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Speaker 1: And after that, you know you're staying up building by

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Speaker 1: the beach. We went to the beacht and like and

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying. You know, it's a lot of slot

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Speaker 1: niggers in here, so I want to be too much info,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not really in there. Like love, I'll beat

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Speaker 1: bitches up when I have secions, not bad because they

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Speaker 1: know that they got to want it. They want that,

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Speaker 1: so I'm really aggressive. That was part three. Then part four.

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Speaker 1: I don't feel like I'm obligating because I'm not in

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Speaker 1: a relationship, and you know that's where we are right now.

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Speaker 1: And then part five, Um, I've seen you in two g's.

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Speaker 1: What was your last night? Yeah? Yeah, we us a

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Speaker 1: full lot of them. No, he's in Brown County. Wasn't

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Speaker 1: all the way in for a lot of them, but yeah, playhouse,

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Speaker 1: playhouse to see the spots I go to like that.

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Speaker 1: But we's in we us in Brodwood County. We's having fun.

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Speaker 1: I got a little fun last night. We had a

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Speaker 1: great time last night. Actually, so let me ask you

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Speaker 1: to Twain nine ce pump or you pulled up what

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Speaker 1: Twain was in there? She was in there. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if it was random or what. If she spoted

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Speaker 1: followed the call, what happened. But we had a good

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Speaker 1: time last night. We're on good terms right now. We're

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Speaker 1: in great terms. She was running down you at one point.

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Speaker 1: This is why I don't say that's been going on?

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Speaker 1: What's been going on? Eight this morning? That's when this

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Speaker 1: eight this morning? Yo? Yo, you can't do this show.

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Speaker 1: You can't do this. No, no, no, no no, I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna call security. Yo. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: to call I'm going to call security, yo. Yo. Yo.

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Speaker 1: Why first of all, why are you calling me and

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Speaker 1: you're outside the door, Yo? Yo, fruit, that's crazy. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I gotta do this all that. Oh but that's this

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Speaker 1: and I'm talking about right here. Nope, nope, okay, I'm

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Speaker 1: getting to order protection. Yo, I'm telling you that I'm

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Speaker 1: getting to order. Yeah that was one day. I'll take that.

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Speaker 1: I got more footage of that, but no, she just

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Speaker 1: gonna get living than that. Man, still get living than that. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So moving around. Remember the first time me and you,

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Speaker 1: matt Um, I remember the first time I've seen you.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we actually met. I was telling you know,

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Speaker 1: we're talking up a day and I was like, yo,

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Speaker 1: first time I seen you, I believe it was in

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Speaker 1: D and D studios and you were just mad, hyperactive.

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Speaker 1: When I elevated something like yo, left practice high right

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Speaker 1: going crazy and I'm like I'm on the elevator, like, yo,

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Speaker 1: what's doing because I don't really know what left racktill

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Speaker 1: and I'm like this dude's crazy, Like Yo, what's your name?

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Speaker 1: I'm like kid and he's like I'm Noriega and I'm

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Speaker 1: like it's good to meet you. Man. So I don't

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Speaker 1: know if that was like a formal introduction, but I

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Speaker 1: remember remember with that, but our formal real first time

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Speaker 1: like chilling was the clue tech. Okay, now I remember

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Speaker 1: that clearly a hundred percent, definitely that was a great

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Speaker 1: That was a great great I was legend Derry. I

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Speaker 1: remember that. Yeah, that was a great. Such that was

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Speaker 1: That was like our first introduction because I believe you'll

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Speaker 1: like like no, I don't want to. But he was

421
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 1: that serious. He wasn't joking. But that's real ship though.

422
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that he was still willing

423
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 1: to give me a job if this ship ain't go right. Okay,

424
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 1: let me ask you a question. Is it's a fair

425
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 1: assessment to say that once you came Rocket fella, you

426
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:32,160
Speaker 1: became a superstar. Um, if I don't like the huge

427
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,400
Speaker 1: and I think that's for public to decide if you're

428
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,919
Speaker 1: a superstar, megastar, whatever. Period. I just think I became

429
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 1: more recognizable in the household man. Yeah, absolutely, and they

430
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,680
Speaker 1: can start paying attention to more of what I was doing.

431
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 1: And it was like, this is what I want to

432
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 1: do anyway, you know, I want to bring my niggas

433
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 1: in and you know, start a crew and have artists, etcetera, etcetera.

434
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Like, it's like you, I

435
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 1: don't know if you've ever seen uh boutang series? You

436
00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 1: know yea in order them one da It's a great series.

437
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 1: Didn't even get to the rap part yet after season one.

438
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I consider that ship my

439
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,119
Speaker 1: story kind of like Rising story. He had to label,

440
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 1: we had to put out the single he didn't want

441
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 1: to put out. Then we got out the fucking deal.

442
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 1: He started putting together all the ship that he wanted

443
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 1: to do. But you know what I'm saying, So to me,

444
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,439
Speaker 1: that's kind of the same scenario because it's this famous

445
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 1: line like you who else said one time for cam

446
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 1: for taking over the rock? Did it seems like everything

447
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 1: was different from that moment on out side looking in

448
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 1: even though, even though like I knew you, Damn it's

449
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 1: twenty years, it's seven. I was side looking at I

450
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 1: thought that everything was sweet. I thought you, I think

451
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 1: it's went there, really took it over. But I didn't

452
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 1: think you had no problems. I didn't think none of this.

453
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 1: Then that line actually says, and then everything kind of changed.

454
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 1: I think Karen Sibyl said it was over parking spy

455
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: and all this ship. Do you thing? I know, I'm

456
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 1: asking you to carrosson. We don't know what the funk

457
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 1: she'd be talking about. Sometimes she got to shut the

458
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 1: funk out. She just be trying to get cloud for

459
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 1: her ship, you know what I'm saying. She was my

460
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 1: employee too, and I called about lying about that ship, like,

461
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: I know you're doing whatever you're doing to get your

462
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 1: ship popping and all that, but you worked for me

463
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 1: for like three years. Stop with the lion and ship.

464
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,679
Speaker 1: So you because you're cloud chasing and you ain't got

465
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 1: you already established, you know what I'm saying. I don't

466
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 1: got no problem with her, but over that situation right there,

467
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 1: I called her like what are you talking about? And

468
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 1: she's like, oh no, they made this. I said, I

469
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 1: heard it all right, So let's just address that type

470
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 1: of woman wasn't. This is what happened. You wanna know

471
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 1: what happened? We got the rocket. Drink with me or something. Man,

472
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: please give me some water and drinking water, drinking, I'm

473
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: not drinking. Let's try something now, ain't drinking. But basically, well,

474
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: so we get the rocket. Fellow, um, I said, we

475
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 1: just got jerked. So we know the game and what's

476
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 1: going on is we're not waiting for nobody. You get

477
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We're not sitting around waiting for Dame

478
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: to do something or bigs at jail or whoever. We're

479
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: going to bust the moves. So when we get there,

480
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 1: Bobby Dash the radio we get wanted him to get

481
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: radio boom, start building a rapport with him. You know

482
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We started learning everybody who does what

483
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: in office, the a and rs and people who picked beats,

484
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 1: that secretaries, everybody. We're building the report. So we're going

485
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: there every single day. Uh. And what we did was

486
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 1: we took advantage of a studio baseline studios, so we

487
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 1: would whenever jail being Memphis Bleak of Beans or whoever,

488
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 1: wasn't performed recording. We would go in there and we

489
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: would record, but if we have to stay there or night,

490
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 1: no matter what it was, you know what I'm saying.

491
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,199
Speaker 1: So then we did a mixtape. You know, a lot

492
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 1: of people don't know we really did the first artist mixtape.

493
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: You know, you had mixtapes, but all the artists was

494
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: on DJ's mixtape. Fifty did it after us. And I'm

495
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: not sitting there trying to take credit because it's like

496
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 1: who invited the toilet? You don't really give a funk.

497
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 1: You're gonna take a ship, you know what I'm saying.

498
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: But I'm just telling you. We started doing our own

499
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 1: mixtapes first because he's on everybody mix tape, like, you

500
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,479
Speaker 1: might as well do our own ship. So then Damion like, yo,

501
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: y'all putting out free music? What the funk are y'all doing?

502
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yo, you gotta build a buzz if

503
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 1: the streets funk with it. Then He's like, now we

504
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 1: gotta sell this ship. We gotta sell. I say, broe

505
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 1: have more music, gonall be ready, you know what I'm saying.

506
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: So we're doing all this ship. Now I'm learning with depth.

507
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: Jimmy's that def jam, I don't remember this, Dann says upstairs.

508
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 1: So now I'm going to funk with Kevin Lows every day.

509
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, what's up, man, I got this. You know,

510
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 1: I'm funking with this song. So I'm going funk with Leo,

511
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 1: going to funk with Julie Greenwall. You know what I'm saying.

512
00:26:55,440 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's my crew. Yeah, I love that, yeah, Kiser,

513
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: Yeah you know, yeah exactly, yeah, yeah, fat cat. So

514
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: I'm up there fucking with them, thank you, sucking with

515
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: them every day. And so we're up there, it's too

516
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: big closets, like walking closets. It's mad posted boards and

517
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: shipping them in front of the closets, cubical so it's

518
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: two closets. We're talking fell the offices and they yeah,

519
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: in their offices, but you know they offered they were

520
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 1: seting there with Murder in Murder Ink was up there too. Yeah,

521
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: so nobody's using these closets. But they big closets and

522
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: it's cubicles in front of them. So we used to

523
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: stay to everybody leaves, so we cleaned them ships out.

524
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: I got the phone man, you know, we stay up

525
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: the smoke. We got the phone that you put the

526
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: phone line in here, put the phone line in there.

527
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: So it used to be in Dame office every day.

528
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 1: So then we're chilling in front of um. We saw

529
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: walking past Dame offer. They're like, what's up? So they

530
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: walked past, so they're like, yo, where the fund? Y'all

531
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: keep going down there and they're like, no, we got

532
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: the office. So Nig's like, how the fund you get office?

533
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: And I'm like, we it was just closet space. We

534
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 1: put some dusk in there. We caught some hire some interns.

535
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: So niggas is like that's I said, look, look, look

536
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: I see nigga's faces. Don't funk with this ship. Man,

537
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 1: y'all could have been did this ship? Seemed like it's

538
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: been for years. I remember the niggas sparks from state

539
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: property coming there, like, how the fun him come in

540
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: here and get a fucking office already? How the niggas

541
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: getting officers and orders other ship? And I'm like, yo, bro,

542
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: y'all y'all in this situation that I was, But y'all

543
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: in a better situation, y'all being taken care of. I

544
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: don't really want to be taken care of. I know

545
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: what's going on. Now, I don't need to wait for

546
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: Dame to say do this and do that. And I'm

547
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: an asset and not saying there was a liability. But

548
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: I'm coming with ship already done. I got jerked my

549
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: first couple of albums, as far as I'm concerned. So

550
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: now I know what to do. So Nigger started taking

551
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: heat and that, like Kim got the office, got secretaries

552
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: and all this ship out out out. I'm like, all right, whatever, man,

553
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: I don't really care about nobody feeling, you know what

554
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I told Dame. I said, Yo, look

555
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: I got this Dipper mass ship going on. You wanna

556
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: funk with it? Let me know. He's like, yo, Kim, yeah,

557
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: I mayn't even come out, Yeah, you got the children.

558
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, you don't really be out like I'm out.

559
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: We're building a buzz bro something coming outside. Yeah yeah,

560
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: not not like that. I ain't want to playing. But

561
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: I'm telling him he don't know what's going on. So

562
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, you you need to jump on this

563
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: pause before get crazy. He like, Kim, you didn't even

564
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: put your ship out yet. I said, I ain't cool,

565
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: No problem going my man. Kevin Love's office, I said, yo,

566
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: when he played my artist Jewels played the song players

567
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: dipping that project, and he said, I wanted I want

568
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: to sign the whole Diplomat ship. I said, back, this

569
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: is this is right after Dame isn't paid it for

570
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: or not. Excuse me hard knock like screaming on Kevins

571
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: for giving one of his artists death Jam jacket. So

572
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: this is after this, yeah continue yeah, so yeah, so

573
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: so so Dame is like, I mean, Kevin is like better,

574
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: I want everything, I said. I had my lawyer's called

575
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: we get all this ship together. So the next day

576
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: I give Dame the courtesy. I said. Look, I said, yo,

577
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: I know i'm your artists, but I'm about to do

578
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: a joint venture deal with death Jam, with Juels and

579
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: diplomats and all that. He's like, what we are you

580
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: talking about? What are you talking about? I said, let's

581
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: calm down. I said, I said, you're going crazy. Said

582
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: you gotta calm down. Bro I bought it to you first.

583
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: You told me to chill. Now I'm about to do this.

584
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: Oh not kevitist doing that, because now he's doing that

585
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: to make me mad, I said, bro. Man the Nigga's

586
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: jewels is nice. I tried to tell you this man, No, no, no,

587
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: we're going down in there. I grabbed. I said, we're

588
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: not going down there there. You're not gonna sunk this money.

589
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: He said, if if the deal don't go through, I'll

590
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: give you the money postget him. I said, right now,

591
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: we could go there. Yeah, like a mill on the table,

592
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: close to the mill. So I'm like, yo, we go

593
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: down there. He goes yelling, call. I'm looking at Kevin.

594
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: I got a good relations I want to seem like

595
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: I told now you're trying to gas him up. Now

596
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: that doing doing gonna do this deal only to make

597
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: me mad. Kevin is like, Dame, I'm not trying to

598
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: make you mad. I like the kids. Who else? I

599
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: like the diplomat ship. I want to funk with it. Now,

600
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: you're just going crazy. You would. It's going through Rockefeller.

601
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: It's going through Rockefeller. Kevin's like, Dame. If it goes

602
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: through death m or it goes through Rocket Feller, I

603
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: get the same salary. It doesn't matter who it goes through.

604
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: So if you wanted to go through there, yeah, yeah,

605
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: it's going through us. So now we get the deal.

606
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: You know, end up going through Damian Dame argue because

607
00:31:54,360 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 1: I got a blunt roller from Peru. Man, I'm so

608
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: nah so the nigger um. So the deal was taking

609
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: a while. It took like a month when it was

610
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: could of took a week. So now me and dam

611
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: is going getting into it. I'm like, bro, I got

612
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: ship to do. Man like, yo, you're holding me up.

613
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: He's like, yo, Man, this down the third I said, look,

614
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need a nine hundred thousand because you told

615
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: me if this deal don't go through, you're gonna give

616
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: me the bread. So, long story short, the bread came

617
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: next week. So we got the deal and then duels

618
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: was signed. There, diplomats was signed. There. Now was Juel

619
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: signed directly to def dam No he signed, He signed

620
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: a diplomat and I had a drink venture with through

621
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: rocket Feller with def Jam, but he was gonna be

622
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: signed through diplomat no matter what to def Jam. Dame

623
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: just wanted the rocket Feller logo on the deal as well.

624
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: It's still a drint venture deal for me, you know

625
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I remember you was you was

626
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,719
Speaker 1: shopping duels to violated offices. Remember that, Yeah, I remember

627
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: for I think me buster rhymes and Chris like, yeah, yeah,

628
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: I remember that. That's so how did you know? You?

629
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: And Jim Jones story as well documented how how you

630
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: guys mad, how you guys go up together and been free?

631
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: But Joel's was a later on edition. Correct, well, Joel

632
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: was one of my second album. Yeah, you know. As

633
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: soon as I left that, I ran into him, like

634
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: my my best friend in elementary school basically was like, yeah,

635
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: I got this kid this hot, and I got my

636
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: ship together. At the time, I'm like, I don't really

637
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: want to listen nobody. Time. I get my ship together,

638
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: and I fell asleep on my car. He was dropping

639
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: my car, and when I woke up, Juel was in

640
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: my back seat. He's like, just to came, I'm telling

641
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: you about. I'm like, yo, bro, what are you doing this?

642
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: It's weird, don't know what woke up? No, I woke up.

643
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: He's like, this is Nick I'm telling you about. But

644
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: I told him I didn't want to meet him because

645
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, my ship wasn't right. So when he woke up,

646
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: I'm and now I'm like, why did you do this?

647
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: So I'm like, yeah, you're already in the car rap

648
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: and when he wrapped, he was super, HOWD. I'm like,

649
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: this kid, it's tough. So I'm writing them to the

650
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: studio and we started working on s D album. He's like,

651
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: actually on two songs on s D album. Yeah. So

652
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 1: he's been with me since he's like fifteen, sixteen years old.

653
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: You know, he didn't want to go to school because

654
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: he went to school and watch his heights and he

655
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: said his teachers didn't speak English and he couldn't understand him. Yeah. Man,

656
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: so I made him write that's that. But that's how

657
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 1: you've been up. I said, that's how long you've been down.

658
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: Since he's fifteen years old. Sixteen. Yeah, he's going act

659
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: on the Instagram all the time. He making you the

660
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: man on Instagram brother right now. He told me I

661
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: gotta respect his fan base. Yeah, that's Mr pod Man. Well,

662
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 1: can't keep a pot man. That's so you've just the

663
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: same same time about so obviously, the first time I

664
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: met you was it was a freestyle session. You know,

665
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: we said, we said, dn D, I believe you. I

666
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: just don't remember the actual particulars of that, but that

667
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: freestyle and it was you, Mace and Car that that

668
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 1: was a dn D Studios, So that was you remember

669
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: studios that that as Unique Studios and that's the only

670
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: studio we come for. Yeah, you know that was like

671
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: that was like the step up of D and D.

672
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: But it's not right track, it's not due. I think

673
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: he used to plant the roaches in there. Thing used

674
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: to come like. But so for me, I mean, and

675
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: you had a relationship. But that was you and Mace

676
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: and Car that I had always thought, y'all, I was

677
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: a group. I thought that was Harlem World right then

678
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: the children in the corner, No, that that's the way

679
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: before n you know, it's crazy. I was doing you

680
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: know what. I'm in the middle doing my dock and

681
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: they fly the moving pieces. You know that need to

682
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: be explained, like sooner the corner was big el Ship

683
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: and me my God blesses that my man blood Shed

684
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 1: and the producer Digger kind of ran with the name.

685
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: But Big I was trying to put the crew together

686
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 1: and it was like Nicks from the Bronx and from Queens,

687
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: Nicks from all over. So niggas didn't see each other

688
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: every day like me blood and Digging this so and

689
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: her McGruff too. So we kept the name. So but

690
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: Farst caught in Mace and whatever and me called in

691
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: and Mace, yeah, you know, Make got the deal with

692
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,959
Speaker 1: bad Boy. He was running around with them with Mace

693
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 1: and you know, doing these free styles to clue freestyles everything.

694
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, absolutely, So we always hanging run around with Mace,

695
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: and Mace got this deal and uh we Mace had

696
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: Hall and World. He wanted to name in Halloworld. So

697
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: when he got his deal, he ended up getting uh

698
00:36:56,239 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: label deal from Jamaine Duprie and a joint venture Hall

699
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: and World. So so deaf because so Jamaine du Pre

700
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 1: missed out on signing Makes he wanted to That's what

701
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: makes want to sign with Originally the main du Pre

702
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: missed out on it, so he doubled back to do

703
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: the label dere and Mace was giving out. He was

704
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: recruiting niggas in the group and nobody really robbed. It

705
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: was like, even as my brother you got how the

706
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: six how wasn't no rapper? You know what I'm saying,

707
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 1: I like I write it for him, sugar j He

708
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: ain't no rapper. His sister not no rapper. Loon just

709
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: started rapping at the time. I believe I don't want

710
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 1: to tell what Loon started, but he was just coming

711
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 1: on the scene as a rapper. And then they got

712
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: nigger named men know who really did rap. So I'm like,

713
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: we could write these niggas because we're thinking the niggas

714
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: who want to selling. So I believe we got deal

715
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: for two million dollars. He was getting everybody ten thousand dollars,

716
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: so he's about to get me ten thousands. I'm like,

717
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 1: hold on, I'm not part of the ten thousand dollar crew.

718
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: I'm writing the fucking souls and ship like, what the

719
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: fund is the ten thousand? No? No, So he started

720
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: like IRV and not picking the phone up in all

721
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: this others, and I'm like, no, I got the bust moves.

722
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 1: I'm not that how you wanna get meet ten thousand.

723
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: I'm writing the songs or write niggas versus and you're

724
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: giving the niggas who don't write rhymes or anything like

725
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: that the same amount. This math is not right for me,

726
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: So I end up just started doing my own thing.

727
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: I have to kurt that situation. So where did y'all

728
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: go wrong? Then? That I'm seeing? So me and Mace

729
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: Mason do a lot, a lot of little ship that

730
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: that I don't really always gotta be talked about, you

731
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But he'll do little ship like

732
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 1: call me randomly and be like, yo, meeting. We speak

733
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: a couple of years and he'll be like, YO, meet

734
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: me here. I'll be like, I bet. I give an example.

735
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: This one example, he calls me out the blue one

736
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: day randomly. This is on tape, my man tape. He's like, YO,

737
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: meet me or two five. I ain spet him a

738
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: couple of years. I like, I bet this probably two

739
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:05,439
Speaker 1: thousand eight, probably two thousand and eight years or something

740
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: like that. You like, meet me on her twin fifth

741
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: from like bad I meet him. We talk. He's like,

742
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: y'all gotta go to funk Flex car show. Let's go together.

743
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, cool, I gotta do something. He's like,

744
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: I gotta do something too. He tells me, you'll meet

745
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: me on her forty ninety by the gas stations. All right, cool,

746
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: go over there. He don't pick the phone up, called

747
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,280
Speaker 1: me back. Oh I'm bugging. I'm boy River Park towers.

748
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: All right, Cool? I go over there. Yeah, yeah, he

749
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: don't because consoles in West sester Side. He don't pick up.

750
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: So now me, howey, it's a few other nigs be like,

751
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: it's this niga doing this again. So we go to

752
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: the car show, like let's see if the cars he did.

753
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, ship, y'all, what y'all doing here? Y'all good?

754
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: This nothing? And so me like, yeah, why you gottas

755
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: running around the city and ship? He like, come on,

756
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: I know y'all not bugging over that. And I'm like, yea,

757
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: all y'at do that. You don't fucking me. But that's

758
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 1: it's a bunch of that. It's like if a nigga

759
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: keeps talking you on your side a honey, times you're

760
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 1: just gonna slap them. So that it's that ship happens

761
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,959
Speaker 1: a million times. That little story right there. I can't

762
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: even tell you how many different times that happens. And

763
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: just get to the like like like I said, like

764
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: we do our research and where the artists come. We

765
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: listen to the music. And when I'm listening to music,

766
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: it's even on Welcome to New York City is like

767
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: you said, I'm gonna give what you said, Uh May Scott,

768
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: he ran to Atlanta, So I can tell us like

769
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: something that was it the Horse and Carriage video because

770
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 1: you know what, I was in the Horse and Carriage video.

771
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: It's crazy. Fifty cent told me he's in the water too.

772
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: Birds said he's in the in the video in the water.

773
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: Bird says a lot of modees in that video. Therson

774
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,959
Speaker 1: Carriage video show. I'm talk about you cheated me in basket.

775
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: We've been talking about that later. But um, definitely, definitely

776
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: these all the niggas turned different. Like once it was

777
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: time of wait basketball, they put on goggles coming out

778
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: blow tried it out of nowhere, but get bat of

779
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: that later. But so's that like a shot to your face,

780
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: like when you know y'all boys right, And you know

781
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: I had to get learned that lesson to where a

782
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: person said, you know what, you gotta pay me, like

783
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, we're coming up? And

784
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: what was that? Was that a lesson? Like what what?

785
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: Because I guess that was the rumor that he wanted

786
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: to be paid or something and he said it on

787
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: that day. That's the reason why he didn't show up. No,

788
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: I think I wasn't tripping off that under number was

789
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: more mad about it, you know, because they felt they

790
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: other business they did with Mason everything else and so

791
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: on and so forth, that Mace wanted Bread to do

792
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,240
Speaker 1: another song on my album. I didn't get really triple

793
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 1: off that they undt. I was trying to plant that

794
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: my head, like how your man charging you? How they

795
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: stand the third And I'm sitting there like I ain't

796
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: tripping because I'm me. You know, I would have been

797
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: doping for his there, but I knew what I was

798
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: destined to do, so I wasn't tripping. But you know

799
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: that was more in Jacob York being mad about that

800
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 1: than I was. I wasn't. But you didn't feel nothing

801
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: like because you know, I mean, you could have showed up,

802
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 1: but I wasn't gonna crowd. But I turned out good.

803
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: You know, it turned out real good. But I I'm

804
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: more upset. Well, I was more upset over the ship.

805
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: I just told you. Yeah, like yeah, like yeah, the

806
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: music like my nigga because you know, at the end

807
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: of the day, Mace, but I tell the nigger's two

808
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: and I don't really hold accountable like fastest right, you

809
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 1: know a nigger right now, definitely right there. Let's say

810
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 1: they're thirty five years old. If you give a nigga

811
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: two hundred thousand right now just is nigga you know

812
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: on the hud or whatever. They might lose their mind

813
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: because they never had that much money at one time.

814
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: Like I know a nigger now there's thirty three skim

815
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: hut one time, he's gonna go crazy smoking cigarettes exactly that.

816
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,959
Speaker 1: So Mace was twenty two years old, triple platinum, probably

817
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: ten million dollars, and still trying to be in the hood,

818
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,479
Speaker 1: like you know that ship you look back on because

819
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: you know me. You know you're year older than me.

820
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: But at that point you'd be like, yo, why are

821
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 1: you doing this? While you're doing that, You're like, nigged lord,

822
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: you might lose your mind with ten million dollars three

823
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: years old. You get what I'm saying. You ever felt

824
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: you you went Hollywood like I ain't got a lot

825
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: ninety eight, I might have went to far. Did I

826
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: ever feel like I want? Yeah, like I ain't gonna

827
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: like when I hit flatting, I didn't know how to do.

828
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: I was with two. I felt I was Hollywood before

829
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: I was anybody saying, like my com from that say

830
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: go up, I wake up this morning. I talked to

831
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: myself in a mirathon ten minutes where I leave my

832
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 1: house and telling myself, I'm that nigga. Me my ship,

833
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: nigga walk in on me, like Yo, what's going on?

834
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, Yo, do that ship? You know what I'm saying.

835
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: I practice out with my how walk like I walk

836
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: on the treadmill, practice, I walk up on the block

837
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: nigga because I feel I'm that nigga, you know what

838
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I ain't really feel no way about

839
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 1: nothing that ship. But I never I felt I was

840
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: Hollywood before I was Hollywood and I have a dollar

841
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 1: but you know what I mean, Do I have Hollywood

842
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: with my niggas? No? No, I mean did you ever

843
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: like you know, Um, I had to be brought down,

844
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, Like, you know, just

845
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: sometimes just being a man in the world and just realizing,

846
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: like you know what this is, just this is just

847
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 1: famous like that, and I had to like you ain't

848
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:41,959
Speaker 1: never have had that problem, humble, Yeah, nor haven't because

849
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: it's just like yo, because you know what, like for instance, right,

850
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 1: certain niggas they gotta wear jewelry every day or whatever.

851
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: You know, if it's something to do, I'm gonna get flyer.

852
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 1: I'm gonna step up. I'm gonna show you I dressed

853
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: better than you, but I'm gonna show you my swag better.

854
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure you can't compete, you know what I'm saying.

855
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: If I need to do. But I'm going to this store,

856
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put on a regular T shirt. Might gotta

857
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: holding it from my ashes or anything else. And I'm

858
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 1: still gonna talk to you how I want to talk

859
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: to you, because I don't feel I need none of

860
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: this ship to be the person I am. You get

861
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But when it's time to show up

862
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 1: and show out, wonder all that too. But that's just

863
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: my attitude. I come from my harsh neighborhood. Man, you

864
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And when I say hard, I'm

865
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:28,439
Speaker 1: talking about the joke harsh. It's like they joke real harsh,

866
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 1: like the jokes and ship. You may feel like it's

867
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: not a joke, you know what I'm saying, Like it's real,

868
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: like like Big Alt two, he's a funny nigger, that's

869
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,760
Speaker 1: my man. And I'll be like, yo, this, these jokes

870
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: are not funny if they just somebody else. You know

871
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I knew, you know, give reason we outside,

872
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,760
Speaker 1: somebody knew how the ship back on and they arguing

873
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: with somebody else that I know, And my man was like, yo,

874
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: change your ship back. You stick in the middle of

875
00:45:55,680 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: an argument. But it was cool injury like someone that

876
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: he got stabbed up ship mad metically and he's outside talking,

877
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: et cetera. But nigga snapping and nigga just like yore

878
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 1: changing ship back, you stick like ya. It's a harsh

879
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: thing to say, and they just kept it moving. But

880
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: I used to be like ya, this is this is

881
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: ruw and this is fucked up over here, like the

882
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: way they talked that niggas. You know, you got out

883
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: that shell growing up because you don't even know what

884
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: nigg is gonna talk about. You had a record with

885
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: Wayne Younna suck it or not? Record went crazy, but

886
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: he did. He wasn't at the video. What happened with

887
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: that one. I didn't really shoot a video for that.

888
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: It wasn't half went into that joint. No, that was

889
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: not the only thing I did for a second. A

890
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: matter of fact, I did shoot the video for sucking

891
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 1: nine went to wet White. Um. I don't remember. But

892
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: the keeping their hunting Um, Bootsy and Webby was on

893
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: that song first. You know what I'm saying, shout to

894
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: Booty and Webby. You know what. Yeah, it was released

895
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: some type of way, but Wayne heard it and you know,

896
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: Top my Squids Asylum, they wanted to put Wayne on it,

897
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: and um, it was a last minute decision before we

898
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: you know, and ended up mastering the album or whatever.

899
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: But the song originally was Bootsy and Webby and they

900
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 1: was originally on it. But um, you know, Wayne, Wayne

901
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: is a fan and it came out. I don't even

902
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: want to sit here and say how or why, But regardless,

903
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 1: I'm not big on if you show up to the

904
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 1: video you did the song, thank you, you know what

905
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But Wayne, my man. Today I called Wayne

906
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: Wayne one of them niggas just gonna send a record

907
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: back before the sun. You know what I'm saying. You

908
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: worked fast, so definitely, how was it at the time

909
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: we made a song called about About It. Um didn't

910
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 1: go to New Orleans a lot, so a lot of

911
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,720
Speaker 1: people didn't know how important you was doing about about

912
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,439
Speaker 1: It and remaking that. How was that working with master

913
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: here at that time? It was dope? That was what

914
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 1: what happened was I was a fan of the South always.

915
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: I went to school in Texas, you know, family in South.

916
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: But not only that, I traveled lived outside of New York.

917
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: I lived in Ohio, I lived in Chicago. And I

918
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: see how big of a fact our artists had, Like

919
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: New York niggas. Our mentality is we the biggest niggers

920
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 1: in the world. Pause, But when you go out of town,

921
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: niggers don't really care too much about all that New

922
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 1: York ship. They got their own ship going on. So

923
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 1: I always respected that being able to travel, and me

924
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: and masr P we end up sitting on the flight

925
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: next to each other and we just talked the whole flight,

926
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 1: and um, I was like, yeah, I want to remake

927
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: your record. He liked bet and we did it. And

928
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 1: he owns that master correct for my soul about his

929
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: own Yeah, yeah, he could only do it. He could

930
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: clear Yeah, he cleared it for me. So we did

931
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 1: the song and it was cool. Jim didn't like it.

932
00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: Jim directed the video not just only in light and

933
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: that's he was super cool when we shot the video.

934
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 1: But I guess when they're doing b ROW, I wasn't

935
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: there for everything. He was screaming on Jim. I guess

936
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: because it was taking time and stupid. I we're four

937
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: hundred million. They got me standing out here, and Jim

938
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: was like, it's hard to work with this guy four

939
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 1: millions in fitness. That another park on a hund fifty

940
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: first by Joels, but first Amsterdam. And now it's like

941
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: there were so many kids outside, but you know, you

942
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: do the big scene with everybody, so I gotta beat

943
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: it all time. Jim taking them to do little b

944
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: road shots to this, and I guess they took time

945
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: to set the camera and he just kept screaming this

946
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: four hundred millions shot out and niggas just holding him

947
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: up and he got shipped to do in order because

948
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: Jim kept calling me like, Yo, this sniker keeps telling

949
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: me you got four billion and he ain't got time

950
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: for this ship. You say, you said I got four

951
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 1: on a minute, what do we do? What do you say?

952
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: Stay patient? We need it, you know, we need it. Yeah,

953
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 1: we need this look. So that's what happened. Who was

954
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: the eldest person that you told you there was a

955
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:11,240
Speaker 1: fan of you that you was like it was personal study,

956
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: all right, So it's a dope story. Right. So my

957
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: first album, my first album is not even out yet,

958
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: and we're in the airport. It's me and a couple

959
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: of my niggers and Laurd Fishburne walked past, just randomly

960
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: like We're like, oh shit, fucking Laurence Fritshburn. We don't

961
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 1: have no album, so we like talking to see Laurence Fishburn.

962
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,439
Speaker 1: He's like, yo, man, he loved Lauren Frishburn. No HOMEO.

963
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 1: So jim is sitting there. Jimmy's like, y'all, I was

964
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: in choice of Russ And if you call him Larry,

965
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: he loses his mind. He don't like to be called Larry.

966
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: So my man is an ask. So he died, I'm

967
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: in Fast Show and got blessed to day. He like, yo,

968
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: Larry just yeah, he looked to be like he looked.

969
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: He's like yo, I said, what's up, Larry? Ship. So

970
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 1: Laurence Fishburn stops and walks over and says, what you

971
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: just called me? Is that the airport? Yes? Yes? And

972
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 1: the airport He's like, what did you call me? He's like,

973
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: I said, what's uping Larry? What's was happening? So we're like, yo,

974
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: we fans this stand the third he tuned in us out.

975
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: He's like, yo, why are you calling me like? He said,

976
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: because that ship name. He said, my name is Lawrence.

977
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 1: He said, your name is Larry. Hilarious. I'll get it.

978
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: Let me tell you this, just this story, so about

979
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 1: to do research on it. His name was Larry when

980
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: he was young, but then after hire learning he changed

981
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: at the Lawrence I guess Larry's will and niggery and

982
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: then he did learning and he said he want to

983
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: be like proper Black, the Matrix and all this ship.

984
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 1: So anyway, he like, man, fuck you. He teld my

985
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: men that we like yo, don't listen to him. Jim

986
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: and just did a scene on New York Undercover as

987
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: an extra and he active say, Jim was like an

988
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: extra New York Uncle last side, you know, no album out.

989
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: He's promoting ship. So he walks off. You're like, yo,

990
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: why you do that? Sean like, what's wrong with you?

991
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: Like man funk that your name is Larry. So we're chilling,

992
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 1: like ten minutes later, this nigga come back. It's sitting

993
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: next to us, be like, yo, man, don't worry about him.

994
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: He now he overre my man is Sean over there

995
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 1: be like, yo, man, we fished. Jim like, I'm like,

996
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: my man was just on New York going to cover

997
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,439
Speaker 1: if you can help us out with the little active ship,

998
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: need a little kig and all that ship. You're like,

999
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: I'm not helping you all, and be like what's wrong? Man?

1000
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 1: He like you with somebody who keep calling me Larry.

1001
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,720
Speaker 1: My man leaned over and say your name is laughing

1002
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: and don't ask me again, Lord Fishburn, get up, get out,

1003
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: taking his wallet out, put in my men face. What

1004
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 1: does that say? My man is like, I don't care

1005
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 1: what he's say. Your name's Lay. So we're like, yo,

1006
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 1: fuck him. Then I'm about to be a rapper. What

1007
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying snigger. My man is acting to stand the

1008
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: third yo, so the Maura fisherroom. Wow. So he says, yo,

1009
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,399
Speaker 1: stop acting me for help. Man. You know what I'm saying,

1010
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 1: funk that I'm not helping y'all. Just think you gotta understand.

1011
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 1: So now Jimmy's basically begging Lord Fishburn. Now I'm like,

1012
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: are you fuck you? Get the funk out of here,

1013
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: like kissing your ass and man, fuck you matter fact,

1014
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 1: I'm about to swing on you. So Frishburn like you

1015
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: backed up. This nigga pulls some gloves out of his

1016
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: pocket and put on his gloves. So I'm like, I

1017
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: looked at my man team, I'm like, you're about to

1018
00:53:55,000 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: jump this nigga. He just looked and walked off off

1019
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: like the like a movie like just walked off into

1020
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 1: the ship. And I'm like, my man showing like you

1021
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: an asshole. I said, I got tired of kissing his ass.

1022
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: He was like, nah, he was on the verge of

1023
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:19,479
Speaker 1: snuffing me. Man, I'm just gonna fall out, fun up everything, brother,

1024
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: I said, I can't take it no more anyway. Fast

1025
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 1: forward to answer your question, my man is driving my

1026
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: pink range over one day at hall On like stuff

1027
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 1: like like yeah, so yeah like fish Lawrence like whatever,

1028
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, camera Pink range over. He's like yes,

1029
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 1: my man, he said, Yo, tell that guy love his music. Man,

1030
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 1: I'm a big fucking fan of camera man. You let

1031
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 1: him know that. And I'm like, Lawrence don't even know that.

1032
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: I was listening the airport like fucking six years ago

1033
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: that she was going crazy because Nikka called you Larry.

1034
00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: Now you're a fan of my music, My nigga, Look

1035
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: look at that my nigga. So that's a person who

1036
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 1: I would say is a fan who basically shipped on us,

1037
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: to us to kick rocks and get the funk out

1038
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 1: of here because my man was going crazy on that.

1039
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: Make some noy for that guy, Laurence I was. I

1040
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: was scared. Now, I don't call him yea man. You

1041
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 1: don't like Larry, you want to be Laurus. So so

1042
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: I imagine growing up being from all from all, being

1043
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: from New York City, you had to be fans of

1044
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: Jay and not. But at one point you was at

1045
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: odds with Jay and Not. I mean, which one you

1046
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:46,879
Speaker 1: want to talk about first? If you if you don't

1047
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 1: matter either. So all right, let's say j J for instance,

1048
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 1: because you were at Rocket Feller and this is you

1049
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:56,240
Speaker 1: leaving Rocket Feller or exiting Rocket Feller. Just these records

1050
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: that pop up now. But what happened was I believe

1051
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,800
Speaker 1: Dame was gonna make me the president of the Rocket Feller.

1052
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: This is his office. That was just that has to

1053
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: do with this office he was talking about earlier. No,

1054
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 1: we just house. That wasn't the same time and he

1055
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: was the president. It never really came before wishing me

1056
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 1: being a president being an actually president. He wanted to

1057
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 1: make me a president, Okay, and I don't think he

1058
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 1: talked to j about that, you know what I'm saying.

1059
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: So like when i ainked some bust it and me

1060
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: and Jake Cool were just on the sky Zoom call

1061
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 1: like a week ago. So this just stories. Me and

1062
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: Jain't got no problems. We're super cool. So by the way,

1063
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 1: I thought, I'm gonna take it with me. No, no,

1064
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. So. Um, Basically, when I got the

1065
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 1: rocket feller, you know, I tried to ingratiate myself with

1066
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: everybody because I don't know what that means. Yeah, I'm

1067
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 1: trying to be cool whatever I'm trying to say. They

1068
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: already have something going and trying to be cool with

1069
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: everybody because y'all got your own thing, you know what

1070
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I don't want to come in here and

1071
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: seem like I'm stepping on toes or whatever. So I'm

1072
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: cool with everybody. You know, Hey, this down the third

1073
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: and you know Jay Jay is a competitor, you know

1074
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So me coming there, I don't know

1075
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: this was dame situation and say something that he did,

1076
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: so you know, um, first thing is happened. I bought

1077
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: Kay Slay up there, and I guess I didn't know

1078
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 1: he was mad at Kase Slave because kse Slay musts

1079
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: to play Eta at the time, and he was mad

1080
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: at now for Ether and Order. Never heard this story. Yeah, yeah,

1081
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. You can tell you what happened. You

1082
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: got ask Kate slept. So I wait a minute, run

1083
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: case Lay up to baseline. Yeah, okay, this is after

1084
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 1: case Slag. He definitely voted for NAS either, remember this. Yeah,

1085
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: so bordom up there because you know we're using case

1086
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: Slay the hostid mixtape. So Kay came up there, boom.

1087
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: Jay wasn't there. But as I'm leaving, Jay is in

1088
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 1: the lobby of Baseline, So I want k to the elevator,

1089
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 1: and I guess they said Jay and jay Z said

1090
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: what's up whatever? So I walked back and he said, Yo,

1091
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: you gotta be careful who you're bringing around here. He

1092
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 1: might have just slapped the ship out of Case Slang.

1093
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 1: And I'm like, wait, what's going on, man? And you know,

1094
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: I don't even know what's going on. He's like he's like,

1095
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: he's like, yo, just saying be careful all right, cool,

1096
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: this your house. Ain't that no problem with that? You

1097
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's all good. Cool, we're building

1098
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 1: buzz up. I'm like, yo, Jay in the studio, I'm like, yo,

1099
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: we might want to hop on his record. We're building

1100
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: the buzz and he'll just look like, okay, that's cute,

1101
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 1: Like he didn't say that, but he's like okay. I'm like,

1102
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: ain't cool. Cool. I don't know what's going on, but whatever,

1103
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: So um, I start heating up, you know what I'm saying,

1104
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 1: And he like, yo, we seeming you know, you can

1105
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 1: tell us some tension. So one day I come to

1106
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 1: the studio. You're like, yo, it seemed like it's some

1107
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: tension in here. Yea, yeah to me, I'm talking. I

1108
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 1: don't know if exact words, but he says something going on.

1109
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 1: I just want to let you know. I see all

1110
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 1: niggers rocking. I ain't got no problem. Were all good,

1111
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I'm like, bad, um

1112
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: just got a song up right now, you know, like, yeah,

1113
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: let's just do it now. And he's like, back, so

1114
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: we did the song room, So I said, yo, the song.

1115
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 1: He know we might could do the video He like, okay,

1116
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:52,919
Speaker 1: we back to that cool so that that happened, then

1117
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 1: back to all we're saying about I'm starting to do

1118
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 1: bus moves or whatever. Because there was that. There was

1119
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 1: a ja the verse on Old Boy, and you might

1120
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:06,479
Speaker 1: tell you that. So Pete Crap, nobody's fucking Pete Crap,

1121
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 1: Stay Property, nobody, Peddy Crack. I was gonna fun with

1122
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:16,919
Speaker 1: Speedy Crap. He had the song one for Pete Crap. Yeah,

1123
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: that was this on myself. I put me in jewels

1124
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 1: on it. Taking the Dame like about the fun, He like,

1125
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 1: he fulfilled you to funk with Stay Property. I'm like,

1126
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 1: why everything I gotta be so philly, this holmness. I

1127
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: don't think I heard the story Pete Cracker story. Don't

1128
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 1: even need to drink it's on flat. He told the

1129
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 1: story on VLAG. I already knew how I went anyway,

1130
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 1: But he tells the story. So day in the studio

1131
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,439
Speaker 1: he said he got this hot song. You know, because

1132
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 1: he wasn't signing State Property. I was working with him.

1133
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 1: He come to New York or whatever, and I was

1134
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 1: gonna sign him, but Dame was like, I was gonna

1135
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 1: suck up ful Philly and all this ship, and I'm like,

1136
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 1: so Pete was was like, it's a situation with Bothyard's right,

1137
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 1: by the way, Yeah, Dame is right, and you were right.

1138
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 1: This is a situation. But continue. So he's property but

1139
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 1: it's seeming like that, but he's not. So he's like,

1140
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 1: I'm not signing him niggas camp. So we did the song,

1141
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 1: so he played. Pete's playing the song for jay Z

1142
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 1: whoever else in the studio and like I said, Pete,

1143
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 1: Pete crack story is on flack. He talks about a

1144
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: couple of interviews. I already knew how it went though,

1145
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 1: but we don't mention the other outlets. Yeah, so he's

1146
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 1: playing sorry about that. So he's especially that they apologize

1147
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: a couple of videos. He he a couple of the

1148
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 1: interviews he mentioned this. So he says he's in the

1149
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 1: studio playing it and my verse come on and j say,

1150
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 1: stopping erased that ship and just erased my whole verse.

1151
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 1: So Pete calls me, he like, you're saying the original

1152
01:01:56,240 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 1: one for Pete? You're on there, would you? Yes, pets

1153
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 1: in the studio actually plays director. No, this is what happened.

1154
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 1: I used to go to Philly. I has Salon and Philly.

1155
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So so one night after

1156
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 1: you know, check on my business and Philly, I go

1157
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 1: to a club, this DJ Koreyak I think his name was,

1158
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 1: and I'm like, in the hole in the wall and

1159
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 1: PT Crack is performing in this hole in the war

1160
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 1: and the whole club is going crazy. So I went

1161
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 1: up to him in Meadow. I'm like, yo, what's up here?

1162
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 1: Like now you know beans just down the third and

1163
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 1: then I funk with everybody. You know, there were those

1164
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 1: with his niggas. So then a week or two later

1165
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 1: I went to I don't know at the time when

1166
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 1: we go to Philly radio station and he's outside the

1167
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 1: radio station. Yeah, he's outside the radio station, and he like,

1168
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 1: chill her, what's up man? I'm like, I thought you

1169
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 1: with state property? Me like, game ain't signing Damon's there.

1170
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 1: He's like, they main't sign me nothing. I'm like, word,

1171
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 1: so that record you there still not send it to me?

1172
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 1: Wasn't sending that some type of way? He gave me

1173
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 1: a CD I think I had, and I did it

1174
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 1: and gave it to him. He came there, used to

1175
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 1: come to New York. So when I did it, Dame.

1176
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 1: It's like, yo, hold on, I said, the man said,

1177
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 1: he's not signing y'all. There's nobody. Well, you know we

1178
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 1: was gonna do this and I was gonna do that,

1179
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 1: and I'm like whatever. So then what happened was Dame said, look,

1180
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 1: I guess beans and nothing's like, how can this was

1181
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 1: pt cracks on me? How Kim and them jumping on

1182
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 1: our record on the Philly record bed, Like, I ain't

1183
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 1: know you wanted to do the record. So Dame come

1184
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 1: to me. I guess it was a problem over that

1185
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: or whatever. Dame like, Yo, this is what we're gonna do.

1186
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 1: We're gonna put state property on it and keep you

1187
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 1: on it. We're gonna take you els off. I'm like, now,

1188
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 1: didn't take me off to like, I don't understand what's

1189
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 1: going on? Why this is such a big deal, like

1190
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 1: it was gonna takes off and leave you. And I'm like, nah, man,

1191
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 1: I said, well take me off the record to man

1192
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 1: and ain't no problem. You know what I'm saying. But

1193
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 1: prior to all this video for that song and everything,

1194
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 1: jay Z heard the verse and just eraseing my ship

1195
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 1: to Pete crack erace it or shame whoever was um

1196
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 1: engineering that day. I'm like, what's it's why I'm back

1197
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 1: and energy going on, but we don't give a funk.

1198
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:19,959
Speaker 1: But Cam, I gotta ask because this is very deep.

1199
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 1: Everybody's good, everybody's good. Drink right now, but this is

1200
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 1: this is one facts you know that that happened. You

1201
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 1: know that that if you want, we could pull this interview.

1202
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 1: Pull it up on your phone. We've got people who's

1203
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 1: paid for that. Let's go first. You pull up, pull up,

1204
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 1: Cameron Jewells and Pete crap. It's just called pet ain't

1205
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 1: casting my course for a minute. Ken, Yeah, yeah, but

1206
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 1: you put up, pull up. I don't want to bring it.

1207
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I want to bring Zeke in,

1208
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 1: but I don't want to. You got it, want to

1209
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 1: keep going, you get him all not even be even

1210
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 1: better coming from that. I never heard this story. So

1211
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 1: but I'm saying not the fact that that doesn't exist,

1212
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 1: but the fact that the person that said that Jay

1213
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 1: said to take that verse off. That's really one million percent.

1214
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be on your show making no ship. Yeah yeah, yeah,

1215
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I mean, I know you

1216
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 1: got a huge ordiance ain't on time, you know, Like

1217
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 1: I said, Jay may I have a different way of

1218
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 1: going about it. But this with Pete Crack said, he's

1219
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 1: like because he wanted to give me a copy, but

1220
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 1: already had a copy. I put it on my mixtape.

1221
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 1: So you saying that to say that to bring it

1222
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 1: to old boy, right, So you know, J one Day

1223
01:05:47,680 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 1: was like, um yeah, J one Day was like, um, y'all,

1224
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 1: did I did a little son for you in the studio.

1225
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 1: I was coming in through, he was walking out, So

1226
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, then he had son the old Boy And

1227
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 1: I was like, this is old Boys already number one. Yeah,

1228
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 1: it's popping, Yeah, this is popping. Yeah, this is the

1229
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 1: rough draft when old boys already lit right you to

1230
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 1: right right. So I listened to it and I was like,

1231
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 1: erased that ship. She did the ship to me. So

1232
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 1: I was like, I race it. That's how the song

1233
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 1: got a race. You know what, just say something as

1234
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 1: a petty nick. Patty like to take back my clothes,

1235
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 1: likes to buy a bit like taking back bringing up here.

1236
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 1: I'm taking that as a petty nick. Yeah, so there

1237
01:06:56,920 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 1: is no more level deserved, just right like you literally

1238
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 1: he raised the jay Z but yeah, because he raised

1239
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 1: my verse. You know what I'm saying. You know what

1240
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So let no not that taking out the

1241
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 1: back and put that paint horse power up there? What

1242
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 1: the big horse power. Let's finish the story. So yeah, so, um,

1243
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 1: that's why a racist verse. And I would love PD

1244
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 1: crack picked the phone up, even pick up. No, I

1245
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 1: just text him. Yeah, so we let somebody say something

1246
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 1: about him. No, make a good presentable. That's via right right,

1247
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 1: that would take me somebody. Yeah. So and it's all natural.

1248
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 1: Um so basically, so bust it right one day and

1249
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 1: that's all After the president ship, Like I said, I

1250
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 1: think that's where ship went bad. That not confirming with

1251
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 1: j about Dames saying making me the president. I went

1252
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 1: on Rap City and talked about it. And what I

1253
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 1: said was, you know, Dame, this what Dame told me,

1254
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 1: I'll making you president. We're gonna bring beans along further

1255
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 1: when he get it together, Non learn more about the

1256
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 1: business that ya YadA. So I was repeating with Dame

1257
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 1: told me. So one day I come on basely by myself.

1258
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 1: J I went on vacation or some ship. That's why

1259
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 1: he wasn't around the office. So I walked in the

1260
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 1: studio by myself. It's Jay is beans is bleak and

1261
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 1: you know you're walk in the room and you know

1262
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 1: they were just talking about you. Everybody stopped, so I'll

1263
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 1: just walk in. Music not playing no More and nobody

1264
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 1: talking something like and you by yourself by myself. I'm like, so,

1265
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 1: y'all's like nine. So Nikka being said, Yo, kind of

1266
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 1: talk to you for a minute. We go outside of

1267
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 1: the room. I said, what's up. He's like, yo, bro,

1268
01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 1: he said, please don't make me look bad on TV

1269
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 1: No More and Data data. I said, what are you

1270
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:03,439
Speaker 1: talking about? He said, now you told me I don't

1271
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:05,599
Speaker 1: know the business and this that in the third I said, yo,

1272
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 1: my nigga ain't trying to make you look bad. I

1273
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 1: just was repeating with Dames said if you feel away,

1274
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 1: I apologize, But that wasn't my attempt to make you

1275
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 1: look bad. He's like, yeah, please man, because I look crazy.

1276
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 1: So I said, okay, I see what's going on in

1277
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 1: this room. Before I walked in. This is kiming them

1278
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 1: got the office, Kim and him, but moves Kim doing

1279
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 1: this without authorization speaking to Jay and being us company.

1280
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 1: You know you could have you could have guest let

1281
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 1: him know whatever. But Jay didn't really come to the office.

1282
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:36,599
Speaker 1: And that's one thing I say about Jay. No matter

1283
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 1: what we had a problem with everything I had to do,

1284
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 1: I had to get six seven signatures, Big Jay, Dane, Leo, Julian,

1285
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 1: Kevin Lows for six signatures. He always signed off on everything,

1286
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 1: but it was good or bad. He wasn't hating or

1287
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 1: anything I was doing. But that's why I race his verse,

1288
01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 1: because you know, that's how he raised my verse. And

1289
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 1: then it just became further and it's just the relationships.

1290
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:09,599
Speaker 1: This is what's what's weird. Because after that, you still

1291
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 1: did New York City. To know that was before that,

1292
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 1: oh that was New City was recorded, befoh, I didn't

1293
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 1: know that. Oh like it like it was levels of

1294
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 1: it was levels of And like I said, I just

1295
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 1: think this j As is a person like you gotta

1296
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 1: earn his respect, but see me personally. And I may

1297
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 1: have came in there with the wrong attitude for not

1298
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 1: to me, but just to him thinking because I you know,

1299
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 1: I knew, I knew Jay Z as far as I've

1300
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 1: been in this house from five sixties State Street, not

1301
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 1: respect everything he did before music career. I remember, um,

1302
01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:46,880
Speaker 1: what happened. Now he's trying to tell me, try to

1303
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:58,640
Speaker 1: get you to drink like I'm gonna get drink the

1304
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:03,640
Speaker 1: same holding so because basically I remember jay Z used

1305
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 1: to open up form not even open up. He had

1306
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 1: no deal or nothing. They just had money him and

1307
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 1: Dane was getting money and me and Bleek used to

1308
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 1: ride around with them. No, Jay had no deal. We

1309
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 1: just young niggas. I was Damn young man, Bleak was

1310
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 1: j young nigga, and I remember, you know, they had

1311
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 1: the song Coming of Age and Bleek used to perform

1312
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 1: that with them. My mom going to Philly, me Bleak,

1313
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 1: Jay and Dame just in the in their car and

1314
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 1: m G S three hunting and them niggas opening up

1315
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 1: for red Man not part of me, method Man. Methyd

1316
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 1: Man was on top of the world and Damon Jake

1317
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 1: paid to open up. I think Penn State one of

1318
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:42,560
Speaker 1: them colleges to to open up for them niggas, and

1319
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 1: you know it was dope. It wasn't a lot of

1320
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:47,439
Speaker 1: people in the crowd, nothing, but you know it was

1321
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:51,560
Speaker 1: bugged out. Years later when they had the rock the

1322
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 1: mic to methy Man and red Man was opening up

1323
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:57,720
Speaker 1: for fucking jay Z. They was opening that. I was like,

1324
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 1: that's fucking amazing because I'm but these niggas just paying

1325
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:03,600
Speaker 1: to open up. They have no deal, they ain't have

1326
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 1: nothing they have. Brandon said, let us be the opening that,

1327
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So you know the progression

1328
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 1: of jay Z. I've seen it a lot of it.

1329
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:13,600
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not gonna sit there and say you

1330
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:16,599
Speaker 1: got no Ti ti and or be high or source

1331
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 1: money or jazz at any of them niggas. But you know,

1332
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 1: I felt I was close enough to be like, now

1333
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 1: I've seen you grow, my nigga. So when I got there,

1334
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 1: I thought I may have had that same report from

1335
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 1: what we had the ninety four and ninety five or

1336
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:31,800
Speaker 1: whatever years it was, you know what I'm saying, And

1337
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 1: obviously it wasn't that. It wasn't that same relationship. You

1338
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because I tell niggas on the

1339
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 1: time to time, it's a nigger who made me want

1340
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 1: to get money, Like I got kicked out of college, right,

1341
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 1: I ain't have a dollar. And I remember meeting me

1342
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 1: and Dane went to meet jay Z and ty Ty

1343
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 1: and Jackson holds a restaurant in New York, Hamburgers and

1344
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 1: all that. So he went to meet them one day

1345
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 1: and they have some It was with two checks to me,

1346
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 1: and Dame just pulled up eight with them. So I'm like, damn,

1347
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 1: I don't have a dollar I just got Yeah, I

1348
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 1: just got kicked out of college. Yeah, like literally like

1349
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 1: a week after that, and Ty, look, yeah, you know

1350
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 1: he's short, so you're know how old TI tires or whatever,

1351
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 1: and it was time to pay for for the building.

1352
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 1: I'm like this about Dame got me or whatever and

1353
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 1: talk he probably older than me, but I thought he

1354
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:33,599
Speaker 1: was my age and younger. And this nigga pulled out

1355
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 1: a not like this, and I was like, who you fain?

1356
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:40,439
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, if nigga is my age like

1357
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 1: this getting this much money, I got to go get

1358
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 1: some money. And he did. Nigga. I swear to guy

1359
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 1: that day. I was like, I'm gonna get money to morrow.

1360
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:48,560
Speaker 1: If I gotta robbing the gotta do whatever. I'm not

1361
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 1: gonna my age pulling out this much money he paid

1362
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 1: for everything. That really motivated me to say I don't

1363
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 1: give a funk more and get some money in that week.

1364
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 1: Later I started getting money for that. Not creaky, creaky

1365
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 1: motherfucker ziggy man, what's going on, dude? We think good

1366
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:14,720
Speaker 1: bro'reving around the circle. Calls in the hurricane, don't you. Yeah,

1367
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 1: he found it. He did this. I'm connected and we

1368
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 1: need to get pt crack on. You say you don't

1369
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:31,519
Speaker 1: want to promote the I think we should get We

1370
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 1: can't use it though. That's not with me. Yeah, but

1371
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 1: that's crazy. I didn't know that story at all. You're

1372
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:49,559
Speaker 1: not dreak ze right now, right now, right now, I'm freaky. Yeah,

1373
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 1: don't leave along drinks. He don't know how to drink

1374
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 1: for one of two days. It's like a three month

1375
01:14:56,320 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 1: thing that I'm talking about. Word, no, no, not, it's

1376
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:02,560
Speaker 1: not it's not good. Let's not get stuff. Let me

1377
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:04,360
Speaker 1: stuff just me for me. I'm gonna drink for both

1378
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 1: of y'all. I'm reading for both of y'all. We usually

1379
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 1: take shots to this time. I mean, you want take

1380
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 1: a shot together. He called in. He's ready, but he's

1381
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:14,680
Speaker 1: trying to figure out how the phone. This is. This

1382
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 1: is too good talk. Yeah, let us talk. We're trying

1383
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:21,759
Speaker 1: to figure out the FaceTime. He doesn't have a iPhone,

1384
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 1: so so put it on speaking. They know that voice.

1385
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:28,720
Speaker 1: Let's see, let's is it going to going to your

1386
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 1: mic portion? Did you be boss? I didn't even I

1387
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 1: don't even know. I just say no, homo, but I know,

1388
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's politically correct. You know what

1389
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:45,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying about. I didn't invent that. That's my niggas

1390
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 1: from the east Side. Let crack. It's good cat told

1391
01:15:56,000 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 1: to you yo, yo, this ship. Shoot, how are you

1392
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:06,720
Speaker 1: doing you all right? Yeah? Yeah, right man? No good

1393
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:10,600
Speaker 1: going on? I'm been locking nothing and I miss you

1394
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 1: like a motherfucker force. Man. I love this nigga. I

1395
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 1: love y'all love this nigga. This nigga he has no

1396
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 1: this niggas genuine no filter period, yo. So listen, I'm

1397
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 1: telling the story about how the whole ship started with you.

1398
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 1: A rocket fell and they're like, Kim. They're not saying

1399
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:30,960
Speaker 1: they don't believe me, but they like, are you sure?

1400
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 1: And I was telling them, could you tell them how

1401
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:38,240
Speaker 1: we met? Real quick? Yeah, real brief? You want to

1402
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 1: do anybody now? Yeah? All right to check it. Um.

1403
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:44,639
Speaker 1: It was a DJ named Korey. I can't silly throwing

1404
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 1: like this before I find to anything to throw these drunks.

1405
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 1: They let Nig perform that, and uh can and Korea

1406
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:53,639
Speaker 1: is a real tighten. So Kim would come to fill

1407
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:55,560
Speaker 1: me a lot. How we care about it? All we

1408
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:58,439
Speaker 1: care about I don't know how to get into that bullshit,

1409
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 1: but anyway, how to hear something out there? Right? The

1410
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 1: chick in the headphlines who we always do about that ship?

1411
01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 1: So I performed at the joint and Kim was in

1412
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 1: the thud and he heard it the next day. He

1413
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 1: must have got my number from Corey. He called me,

1414
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:17,559
Speaker 1: got rack right? No, what's good? I need a voice

1415
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:19,280
Speaker 1: from the rip. I'm like, oh, Ship, I'm a big

1416
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:22,679
Speaker 1: camera fans my man now, but even before for Full

1417
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:25,599
Speaker 1: three fifty seven and all that, you man a fan

1418
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 1: of hip hop period, So I'm hight. I came on

1419
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 1: the phone. He's like, yo, I want to do that

1420
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 1: song that journe. Did you be saying that mat goes

1421
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 1: the name? I said, that's one for P. D. Craig.

1422
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 1: We could throw it over. What's up? He said, come

1423
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 1: up to New York bringing with you ll Uh, I'm

1424
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 1: gonna meet you there baseline to believe it that a

1425
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:46,760
Speaker 1: matter of fact, I got a head love of that baseline.

1426
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:49,840
Speaker 1: The next day he came in in the middle of

1427
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:52,719
Speaker 1: the night. Then the elves got baby on that drink.

1428
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 1: I come in the next day, the versus his on it.

1429
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:58,679
Speaker 1: I'm in there. I'm in the main room. I'm excited

1430
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 1: me and man uh Jay walk saying I'm playing the

1431
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 1: ship for everybody to walk in because I'm just geeking

1432
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 1: because I got a drinking cam on the ship about

1433
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 1: to go around for me. That's in my head. You're

1434
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 1: any time I Mike Jay walked in. I'm not gonna

1435
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 1: check this ship off. I played. I played my part.

1436
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 1: I come on. I don't know who came on first.

1437
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 1: You gotta come on first. And came was like after me,

1438
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:26,640
Speaker 1: and soon the can verse come on like he just

1439
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 1: liked to stop that ship. He stop it. He's like, Yo,

1440
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 1: delete that ship. I'm gonnoking. I looked up, like, Yo,

1441
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 1: hold on a lot, what the is going on? Yo?

1442
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 1: Delete that ship? Um, you got cracked you on even

1443
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:41,599
Speaker 1: you're doing that drink. Do you do what you gotta

1444
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 1: do your thing? And just walked out the room and ship.

1445
01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:48,840
Speaker 1: I'm stuck. I'm sitting there looking crazy. I'm like, God, ship,

1446
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 1: I just had a feature with the nigger can deleted

1447
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 1: my ship. Um I caught. So the next a couple

1448
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:58,680
Speaker 1: of days later, I'm in New York. I'm l a

1449
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:03,040
Speaker 1: oh on can. I got a call from I think

1450
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 1: you to share you Somebody from the office was like,

1451
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:07,640
Speaker 1: yo Pete uh. I said, I'm about to leave. She's like,

1452
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 1: hold up, Kim on the line. You want to talk

1453
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:11,840
Speaker 1: to you, get on the phone with it like you

1454
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 1: crack man, umy man. You know we all funk with you. El.

1455
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 1: Everybody's likes man or freaky everybody and if you want, man,

1456
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:22,880
Speaker 1: you always got a home over here with us over

1457
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 1: the this shet niggas. I said, I appreciate that, man,

1458
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 1: but write this shoot out with these niggas and by

1459
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 1: him telling you like being so Gim went with me

1460
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 1: right there, just keeping the phone in with me like that.

1461
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 1: I just said to keep. I had to tell me

1462
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:37,960
Speaker 1: like yo, Bro, I was in the studio thinking Jay

1463
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 1: to leave at your first I'm thinking the nigga can

1464
01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 1: gonna react like on something like I sess ship. And

1465
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:45,680
Speaker 1: he didn't even save him. He just was like, yo, man,

1466
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:47,640
Speaker 1: don't worry about that ship cracked. Just do what you

1467
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 1: gotta do, man, Go get on your flight and go

1468
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 1: kill that ship. Whatever you're doing, man, don't even doing

1469
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:56,000
Speaker 1: any trip. And right before I flew up, he called

1470
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:58,720
Speaker 1: me back and I had a drop. He had to drip,

1471
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 1: and just to drip. He met me somewhere. He pulled

1472
01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:04,400
Speaker 1: up and had like the blue uh seven forty five

1473
01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:06,599
Speaker 1: and some ship was one of these the husky BIMs

1474
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 1: spread up for me and gave me the TV. I

1475
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 1: had another copy of the ship I got, you know,

1476
01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 1: I mean just that that we don't like run. I

1477
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 1: got a copy of this ship. You go right to it.

1478
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:19,800
Speaker 1: I rocked ship the whole way, the whole flame um

1479
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 1: to l A. I get the l A. If you

1480
01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 1: want me to go further, that's all you want. You

1481
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:30,519
Speaker 1: want more of that? You can wrap it up with you. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1482
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 1: because I get the l A. Get the whole more

1483
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:36,640
Speaker 1: like her, more like spooky to me. So what the

1484
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 1: fucker is going on? I think just off the on

1485
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 1: the strip that back was riding for um for Jay,

1486
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:46,360
Speaker 1: and I mean, and that was this man under the circumstances.

1487
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 1: I ain't understand that the issues that Kim and Jay

1488
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:51,720
Speaker 1: had a time, I ain't know. I just was like,

1489
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:53,519
Speaker 1: what the fund was up with these niggas. I didn't

1490
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 1: know because it wasn't really talked about that much, but

1491
01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 1: it was going on. So I get to l A.

1492
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 1: I played the CD. I'll painted in the CD the

1493
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 1: whole way. I know all the words that anybody versus

1494
01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 1: and anything. I need to l a uh go up

1495
01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 1: to the road. I think beings and Leith was playing

1496
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 1: the game in the in the suite. Put it in

1497
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:18,560
Speaker 1: the CD. Mack, get up and you check people and

1498
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:22,160
Speaker 1: breaking ahead and throw it in the trash. So I'm

1499
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 1: looking at was the like, but she was like the

1500
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:28,880
Speaker 1: tighlights on that ship. And that's when I realized, said

1501
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:35,320
Speaker 1: the math, get what you take. I'll tell you what

1502
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:37,760
Speaker 1: you're talking. Okay, all right, crap. We love you, brother.

1503
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 1: I'm about to tax you now. I'm about to text

1504
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:43,840
Speaker 1: you from my number when I get out of here.

1505
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:47,400
Speaker 1: So you got my number where you at? You're a

1506
01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:50,640
Speaker 1: Philly right now, I'll call you when I get out

1507
01:21:50,680 --> 01:22:00,680
Speaker 1: of here. Y'all the sid he's saying Kim that he wait, wait, wait,

1508
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 1: not only everything I told you, I didn't need to

1509
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:11,160
Speaker 1: break the studio. He went the studio J deleted it,

1510
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 1: but he called to tell me about I had a copy.

1511
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:15,920
Speaker 1: I gave him a copy anyway before he went to

1512
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 1: his flight to elect to go to l A. He

1513
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:19,920
Speaker 1: said he flew all the way in l A to

1514
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 1: me State property when he got this. When he got

1515
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 1: to l A, beans and whoever else from state property

1516
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 1: was in there playing the game. And he's like, yo,

1517
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:31,800
Speaker 1: listening ship I did with Kim and jewels, And when

1518
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 1: he played at being stopped playing the game, injected and

1519
01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:36,479
Speaker 1: broke the C D and half and threw it in

1520
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:44,200
Speaker 1: the garbage. That's exactly what he said. He did co me. Well,

1521
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 1: me and you are only record after that was what

1522
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:54,360
Speaker 1: R Kelly and jay Z need you. How then was

1523
01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:57,759
Speaker 1: he getting that record? I used to live in Chicago.

1524
01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 1: You know I couldn't be ignored in Chicago. Well, well

1525
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:06,160
Speaker 1: I go say, I'm gonna make noise, be like never

1526
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:09,400
Speaker 1: could step on all Kelly toads in Chicago, but they

1527
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:11,920
Speaker 1: knew about us. We're playing it our flag out there,

1528
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:14,680
Speaker 1: like so we all have to do Chicago dips at

1529
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 1: Chicago weekends all that ship. So you want to funk

1530
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 1: with me? And like his uh manage at the time,

1531
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 1: Georgian Regina Daniels, they took me in. They really like

1532
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:25,920
Speaker 1: took a liking to me and ship so they was

1533
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 1: heavy in the city, especially George Daniel. I ain't gonna

1534
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 1: say and tell you all remember I don't even remember,

1535
01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 1: you know, I did a few songs were all Kelly.

1536
01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 1: Remember we did a video on Cali and all that,

1537
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 1: So that particular time, I'm not sure if Kelly was

1538
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:43,400
Speaker 1: there not, but you know we're still funk around. Pause,

1539
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 1: y'all say no, petty man, have you got a segment

1540
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 1: on the show called quick Time with slam right now?

1541
01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 1: Quick time was slam me. You pick one of the right.

1542
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:02,960
Speaker 1: Usually if the person picked both, we take a shot

1543
01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:05,840
Speaker 1: for it. But being at y'all, Satan's or something, yes,

1544
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 1: something going down, something going down over there, y'all motherfuckers

1545
01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:12,400
Speaker 1: in the church or something in the daytime. So don't worry.

1546
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 1: We're gonna hold y'all. Dad, I'm gonna take with you.

1547
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:18,719
Speaker 1: Ain't got regular rock I'll take the fucking white grade.

1548
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:21,960
Speaker 1: This is terrible. You should you you want, I don't

1549
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:23,720
Speaker 1: got y'a already tear me your story. I'm not bad,

1550
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 1: ain't drinking you even know, but Rocky Tarryaki, I'm not.

1551
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:39,439
Speaker 1: I can't lie to your man for years many alright, cool,

1552
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:42,680
Speaker 1: so alright, cool and tune it comes, make it going on.

1553
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:47,440
Speaker 1: Ain't got the regular I got. I don't think he's

1554
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:50,080
Speaker 1: gonna pick both on this one anyway. The first one

1555
01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:55,680
Speaker 1: you're ready to care quick time and slim, what the

1556
01:24:55,840 --> 01:25:03,280
Speaker 1: fuck go the other? Surrock? Yeah? Oh yeah, So it's

1557
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 1: gonna be me and you a cool we'll replaced it.

1558
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:11,560
Speaker 1: Come on, you know, put something for some ice in

1559
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:15,560
Speaker 1: this motherfucker. All right, very very grat now's a jay Z.

1560
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, we're gonna make us drink off.

1561
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 1: So if you don't think well, we gotta drink. If

1562
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 1: you say both, we gotta drink. If you say both,

1563
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 1: we gotta drink. Please don't do that, don't do us

1564
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 1: like pick one. I ain't mad at you do both.

1565
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:44,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with jay Z if I got to.

1566
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:48,679
Speaker 1: But it's really hard, it's really he says, that's hard.

1567
01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 1: It's hard. It's really hard to pick you know what.

1568
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:53,559
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, right, y'all can feel to drink.

1569
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:56,760
Speaker 1: I'll tell your story real quick, quick story. Ain't gonna

1570
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:59,760
Speaker 1: drag when I was, when I was, when I was

1571
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:02,640
Speaker 1: trying to get an album out, like I knew ja

1572
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:04,600
Speaker 1: Ja was coming up with Ain't no Nigga and all that,

1573
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 1: and I was at this girl house and uh, I was.

1574
01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:12,680
Speaker 1: She was like, Jay is nice, Jayden, I don't think

1575
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:14,519
Speaker 1: at first, I don't even come out. You're like, I

1576
01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:18,400
Speaker 1: like jay Z. I'm like better than Nas. She like yeah,

1577
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 1: And I'm like, Na, no, no, no, you're bugging. You're

1578
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:24,839
Speaker 1: bugging you like Nasa is the nigga. Nas, You're bugging.

1579
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 1: She like, Kim, listen when I go to the club,

1580
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to bring addiction every with me. You

1581
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:30,360
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I just want to have a

1582
01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:32,880
Speaker 1: party and have a good time. And that's that. I

1583
01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:34,640
Speaker 1: don't want to have to think so much. And I

1584
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:38,000
Speaker 1: was like, I kept that in mind for when I

1585
01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 1: went forward. I'm like, you know, certain ships you could

1586
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 1: get deep on with certain people, you gotta dumb it

1587
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:46,720
Speaker 1: damn for as well too. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,

1588
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:50,080
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So um, I always kept

1589
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 1: that in mind moving forward when she said that, But

1590
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 1: it's the only reason I would pick jay Z over Nas.

1591
01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:58,760
Speaker 1: And like I said, Nas to me, it is a

1592
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:02,960
Speaker 1: supreme lyricist it's just that, you know, I would say,

1593
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:05,280
Speaker 1: if I'm in the club, you could play more in

1594
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:06,840
Speaker 1: the club, you know what I'm saying. But if i'm

1595
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:09,280
Speaker 1: driving thinking, you probably want to listen to Niles more,

1596
01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:11,799
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So that's the only reason.

1597
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:14,840
Speaker 1: But it's a trick question, you know what I'm saying.

1598
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 1: Do you consider yourself lyricist? Like when you think about it,

1599
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:19,320
Speaker 1: I could be, you know what I'm saying, But sometimes

1600
01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:21,720
Speaker 1: I dumped it down too because it's like coming in

1601
01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:30,679
Speaker 1: you you was coming in absolutely okay under Dame Dame Dash,

1602
01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:35,360
Speaker 1: Dame Dash. Okay, this is pretty easy, all right, Uh this,

1603
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 1: this is gonna be easy as well. Mace with you else,

1604
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:42,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick you outs. But but you can't. You know,

1605
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:44,680
Speaker 1: I can't take away with Mace did as well, you

1606
01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:48,280
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, but definitely drops thinking. They both

1607
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 1: got to three albums. But I'm always gonna pick you else.

1608
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:53,280
Speaker 1: But you know you don't want to take away with Mace.

1609
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:56,400
Speaker 1: You know, people still funk with him, funk with his music,

1610
01:27:56,520 --> 01:28:01,160
Speaker 1: you know, fun with Mason not I probably once a week,

1611
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:03,760
Speaker 1: once for me once a month. Still listen to Um

1612
01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 1: been around the World remix. You know what I'm saying.

1613
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:11,720
Speaker 1: I love that saying Okay, this, this is really I

1614
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:16,599
Speaker 1: think we sucked up Biggie or Big Gul. I'm gonna

1615
01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:18,679
Speaker 1: go with big El because I knew him more personally

1616
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 1: and I knew what he did. I'm not saying what

1617
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:22,160
Speaker 1: Biggie did for the world. It's kind of like the

1618
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:24,840
Speaker 1: un situation that we just talked about earlier. They was

1619
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:26,760
Speaker 1: close to him and I was close to big Out,

1620
01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:28,960
Speaker 1: but I don't think big Al really got the shot

1621
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:31,439
Speaker 1: to heat the fish shot that he deserved. But I'm

1622
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:34,920
Speaker 1: not gonna sit there. And you know, Biggie's definitely like

1623
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 1: a world renowned top MC considered. You know what I'm saying,

1624
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:43,880
Speaker 1: I funking round and say Biggie and go to Lennox

1625
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:45,600
Speaker 1: and get hit over my head for not saying it.

1626
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:53,640
Speaker 1: You Rockefeller, right, he was supposed to know with big

1627
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:55,880
Speaker 1: Al bigged us up. He's like, you know, I want

1628
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:59,720
Speaker 1: to do with cam and and Nori is doing was

1629
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:02,519
Speaker 1: a great yeah. Right. You see that click where Bigger

1630
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:06,640
Speaker 1: Al was like bigging us up was me you I

1631
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 1: think me you DMX like the top three dudes at

1632
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:13,280
Speaker 1: the time, and Bigger it's like right before, I think

1633
01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:14,479
Speaker 1: it was one of the best to do it. He

1634
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:16,320
Speaker 1: picked up up like he was like, yeah, I love

1635
01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:18,639
Speaker 1: the way that they're doing it. So people were moving on. Okay,

1636
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:24,759
Speaker 1: Lebron and Jordan, Jordan, you're very easy mans um independent

1637
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:30,320
Speaker 1: on major independent. Damn, look at you losing so far.

1638
01:29:30,479 --> 01:29:33,920
Speaker 1: I'm dumb, dumb if we were sinking. Yeah, I've been losing.

1639
01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:37,639
Speaker 1: I um on the World Times, children in the court,

1640
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:44,240
Speaker 1: children in the corn. Okay, mo or Ace, we gotta

1641
01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:47,000
Speaker 1: be politically correctly, so you don't have to be. You

1642
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:48,680
Speaker 1: could be. You can go with with you one. I

1643
01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:56,240
Speaker 1: drink more wax. But click on the other day, what

1644
01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:58,320
Speaker 1: is what is that? It's clicko, right, it's clicko. But

1645
01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:02,519
Speaker 1: it's rich the new like Rose Ship. I'm about to say,

1646
01:30:02,680 --> 01:30:05,040
Speaker 1: I'm a funk with the Ace now that it's available. Yes,

1647
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:07,760
Speaker 1: that's right, so we're here. Think they don't have it

1648
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:11,200
Speaker 1: in the store sometimes, right, Yeah, I told this motherfucker

1649
01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 1: that you don't know, all right, the ship for listen man,

1650
01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:25,840
Speaker 1: when the store it was none, there's none. Okay, this

1651
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:29,640
Speaker 1: should be also easy Miami or l a Miami. I

1652
01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:36,960
Speaker 1: knew that. Okay, respect all loyalty, loyalty, Okay, little Camel,

1653
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:53,759
Speaker 1: Foxy Brown, Damn man, dah, that's a tough one. That's tough.

1654
01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:57,280
Speaker 1: What is the drink? I would say? Yeah, I must

1655
01:30:57,280 --> 01:31:05,200
Speaker 1: say both out back. It's a lot of another shot

1656
01:31:05,240 --> 01:31:12,160
Speaker 1: because I think he's gonna through the same on this one, don't. Yeah,

1657
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:16,160
Speaker 1: that's why I use my hand. I thought you wasn't

1658
01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:19,000
Speaker 1: say both. I want to say both the jay Z

1659
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:28,559
Speaker 1: and nine too. If I knew we could say both, Chicago,

1660
01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:44,240
Speaker 1: Ohio both get me back, man, all right? You know? Yeah,

1661
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:48,160
Speaker 1: slowed up man, Beanie Segal like Jay to kiss Man,

1662
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:54,680
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna drink this one, daw broth. Now, I'm

1663
01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:57,880
Speaker 1: gonna go with kiss though, Okay, Yeah, gotta New York

1664
01:31:58,120 --> 01:32:01,640
Speaker 1: from New York. Yeah, I think all right, I think

1665
01:32:01,680 --> 01:32:05,559
Speaker 1: you're definitively gonna pick this too. No Limit or cash Money.

1666
01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:11,400
Speaker 1: That's a tough one. That's tough. That's how Yeah, I'm

1667
01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:14,360
Speaker 1: gonna go with both because you know why master p

1668
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:20,439
Speaker 1: both both master Peak of the signed cash Money. You

1669
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:23,840
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And I think that when master

1670
01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:28,120
Speaker 1: Piece started getting commercial, No Limit picked off picked up

1671
01:32:28,240 --> 01:32:30,080
Speaker 1: right where they left. I mean part mean cash Money

1672
01:32:30,120 --> 01:32:32,840
Speaker 1: picked up right with no limit left off when they

1673
01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:38,639
Speaker 1: started doing a lot of commercial ship shot that alright,

1674
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:41,760
Speaker 1: but P paved the way myself up. I feel like

1675
01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:44,280
Speaker 1: you're gonna go vote on this one too. Feel like

1676
01:32:44,360 --> 01:32:47,920
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do the go double the bottom J

1677
01:32:48,160 --> 01:32:50,280
Speaker 1: Blades A Kanye, No, I think I think you're gonna

1678
01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:51,599
Speaker 1: pick I don't know. I think I know you would

1679
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:59,360
Speaker 1: pick they both. Good man, I'm gonna pick somebody for you.

1680
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:03,040
Speaker 1: I would say Kanye because he got he got more.

1681
01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:06,720
Speaker 1: I like, just it to justice defensive. It's very rare

1682
01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:10,000
Speaker 1: just playing beats. I don't like every time he plays

1683
01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:11,640
Speaker 1: some ship. I think he knows what I want to hear,

1684
01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:14,040
Speaker 1: so I don't. I can't even remember the time I

1685
01:33:14,120 --> 01:33:18,599
Speaker 1: tell him to skip past a record or he plai yeah. Yeah,

1686
01:33:18,640 --> 01:33:21,600
Speaker 1: but I'm telling you for my personal like it. But

1687
01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:24,519
Speaker 1: I'm just you know, I'm being not being biased, because

1688
01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:26,800
Speaker 1: can you make beach for himself? He make beach for

1689
01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:29,679
Speaker 1: other people, wrap over his own fucking beach. I remember

1690
01:33:29,720 --> 01:33:31,280
Speaker 1: that's a big thing. When he got the rocket feller

1691
01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:32,880
Speaker 1: to be like, you're gonna keep the ship for yourself.

1692
01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:35,439
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. When like Yo and so

1693
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:39,920
Speaker 1: now he gonna be for yourself. So say, I'm gonna

1694
01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:42,920
Speaker 1: say Kanye because he's an artist as well, and it's

1695
01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:45,720
Speaker 1: the last one of them both. I'm I do not

1696
01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:48,639
Speaker 1: know what you're gonna pick on this one. The locks

1697
01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:56,800
Speaker 1: of state property. Uh, I'm gonna say both. I'm gonna say,

1698
01:33:58,840 --> 01:34:02,120
Speaker 1: just got locks already. Now you know why, because state property,

1699
01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:07,240
Speaker 1: state property locks. Of course, I'm from New York and

1700
01:34:07,479 --> 01:34:10,680
Speaker 1: and I love you know Sheic Styles and J Nigus too.

1701
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:14,719
Speaker 1: But you gotta care underestimate the movement that stay property

1702
01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:18,320
Speaker 1: not necessarily did a movement to close you know, everything else.

1703
01:34:18,439 --> 01:34:21,519
Speaker 1: But they got a lot of a lot of they

1704
01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:27,479
Speaker 1: might got more. Uh like clubs shipped in the locks,

1705
01:34:27,680 --> 01:34:30,400
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, like that PD crackh

1706
01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:33,080
Speaker 1: It dope, like even Free Freeway. Like I remember he

1707
01:34:33,240 --> 01:34:34,920
Speaker 1: was looking for a single and he's playing me his

1708
01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:37,599
Speaker 1: album and I'm like, you got a single right here?

1709
01:34:38,280 --> 01:34:40,320
Speaker 1: Like they just be singing, said Tom Dame m I said,

1710
01:34:40,400 --> 01:34:43,960
Speaker 1: make this a single. Um this ship with um Beanie

1711
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:46,360
Speaker 1: and jay Z, like you playing us in the club.

1712
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:49,920
Speaker 1: That's it go crazy, Yo, that's it, nig It's going

1713
01:34:49,960 --> 01:34:52,000
Speaker 1: crazy off that record. I think they got more light

1714
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:54,560
Speaker 1: in the club ships, but lots got a bunch of

1715
01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:59,519
Speaker 1: ship too. I'm gonna just say both. So Y've been

1716
01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:02,200
Speaker 1: fucked up. You to change your mind? Yeah, because we

1717
01:35:02,840 --> 01:35:07,160
Speaker 1: took the shot. But man, you know all right, So, um,

1718
01:35:07,240 --> 01:35:10,240
Speaker 1: I gotta ask this question straight up because I believe

1719
01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:13,599
Speaker 1: Nick Cannon says something to you said something Nick Cannon

1720
01:35:14,280 --> 01:35:16,120
Speaker 1: and he was like, you don't tell the family. I'm

1721
01:35:16,200 --> 01:35:19,000
Speaker 1: good find the felt like he was trying to say,

1722
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:24,280
Speaker 1: you smashed. I'm not sure. I just gotta ask straight up, right,

1723
01:35:24,439 --> 01:35:28,200
Speaker 1: just my friend, all right? And I got mad. You know.

1724
01:35:28,240 --> 01:35:30,360
Speaker 1: Another thing is me and Nick. We was sucking around

1725
01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:32,519
Speaker 1: on Instagram and going back and forth each try to

1726
01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:35,439
Speaker 1: make fun of my pink coat when I'm holding the ship.

1727
01:35:36,040 --> 01:35:39,120
Speaker 1: But I put up a clip of Mariah like caressing

1728
01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:41,240
Speaker 1: me with it. You know what I'm saying, Like yo,

1729
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:47,680
Speaker 1: But one thing I will say about Nick Cannon and

1730
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:50,200
Speaker 1: he you know, um, we haven't seen each other, but

1731
01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:51,760
Speaker 1: he gave me some props on the radio a few

1732
01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:56,200
Speaker 1: years ago. That Nigga gets to the bag. That Nigga

1733
01:35:56,240 --> 01:36:00,960
Speaker 1: gets to the bag. Yeah, yeah, it gets to the bag.

1734
01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:04,160
Speaker 1: He then gets up and hustles and he sucked a

1735
01:36:04,240 --> 01:36:07,840
Speaker 1: lot of bad bitches, like y'all carning the canon, Corny

1736
01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:09,360
Speaker 1: all that ship you want and it gets to the

1737
01:36:09,400 --> 01:36:16,880
Speaker 1: bag bitches and nig it gets to the Turkpin. Yeah, yeah,

1738
01:36:16,920 --> 01:36:21,200
Speaker 1: that's what I didn't know. It's a turk Pin. It's

1739
01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:23,680
Speaker 1: a Turpin. Is the other ship the turk Pin? That's

1740
01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:27,080
Speaker 1: a Turkpence ship where he got like, I gotta don't

1741
01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:31,720
Speaker 1: you know what it is that's getting right there. You

1742
01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:33,760
Speaker 1: gotta be confident to do that. But so we're the back.

1743
01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:37,519
Speaker 1: You definitely didn't smash me right back. Didn't say that

1744
01:36:38,439 --> 01:36:44,640
Speaker 1: a lot of people can't come on the table A

1745
01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:54,280
Speaker 1: lot of night your single you drink you man. That's

1746
01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:56,439
Speaker 1: the one thing they got mad. And I'm not saying

1747
01:36:56,479 --> 01:36:58,519
Speaker 1: I did the right guy, but that's the one thing

1748
01:36:58,600 --> 01:37:01,360
Speaker 1: they did. They mac mad and nick about going and

1749
01:37:01,520 --> 01:37:07,519
Speaker 1: telling everybody you won't kim kar this been tra Marie

1750
01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:10,360
Speaker 1: and they're like, yo, chill, bro, you want more bits

1751
01:37:10,439 --> 01:37:20,200
Speaker 1: with the fuck chill. I wasn't ready for that. You

1752
01:37:20,320 --> 01:37:26,720
Speaker 1: gotta be run and tell everything you ain't gonna get

1753
01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:33,519
Speaker 1: the next bit, Oh my god. The neighbor. Yeah yeah,

1754
01:37:33,720 --> 01:37:36,680
Speaker 1: but you know, you know it's one thing when you

1755
01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:39,439
Speaker 1: bring your own celebrity to the table, and it's another

1756
01:37:39,520 --> 01:37:42,479
Speaker 1: thing when I make you famous. You know, I'm gonna

1757
01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:45,120
Speaker 1: respect because I want to get to the horse. Um.

1758
01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:48,120
Speaker 1: So we talked about j you having the problem with

1759
01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:52,360
Speaker 1: Jay and fixing it. Let's get to the nasright, because

1760
01:37:52,360 --> 01:37:55,559
Speaker 1: I believe I'm actually in this NAS problem. Like when

1761
01:37:55,640 --> 01:37:58,679
Speaker 1: he went at you, he dissed me. At the same

1762
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:04,840
Speaker 1: time this interview happens. He comes out, he goes, this

1763
01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:06,760
Speaker 1: is you, this is me. I think this is a

1764
01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:12,040
Speaker 1: this is Nelly, this is a step your lyrics. Y. Yeah,

1765
01:38:12,680 --> 01:38:15,559
Speaker 1: he went at me and he's the first guy my time,

1766
01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:19,840
Speaker 1: my brother. Now's okay, Like you said with James, you

1767
01:38:20,040 --> 01:38:22,640
Speaker 1: made seven? How many this rectors are you make in

1768
01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:26,680
Speaker 1: a night Christmas? You know, it was like conscious. It

1769
01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:30,000
Speaker 1: was a hard decision because Nas, just like you said,

1770
01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:31,960
Speaker 1: he just got on the radio start this niggas and

1771
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:36,120
Speaker 1: we're big NAS fans, super big NAS fans, so we like, man,

1772
01:38:36,280 --> 01:38:39,479
Speaker 1: what the funk is this about? Like why is this thing?

1773
01:38:39,600 --> 01:38:41,600
Speaker 1: But at the same time, we gained a momentum in

1774
01:38:41,680 --> 01:38:46,360
Speaker 1: the street to so we just like NAS ain't gonna

1775
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:48,320
Speaker 1: walk in the park like lead like you know, because

1776
01:38:48,360 --> 01:38:50,040
Speaker 1: we thought we could rhyme two people like this is

1777
01:38:50,360 --> 01:38:54,320
Speaker 1: fucking nas like the best, right, Yeah, this is the

1778
01:38:54,439 --> 01:38:57,120
Speaker 1: best rapper ever, you know what I'm saying. So we like, damn,

1779
01:38:57,280 --> 01:38:59,719
Speaker 1: what do we do? Do we ignore it? And niggas

1780
01:38:59,800 --> 01:39:02,080
Speaker 1: like nine, you can't ignore that ship right now? So

1781
01:39:02,200 --> 01:39:04,920
Speaker 1: we're like, but what was his line to you? Because

1782
01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:06,760
Speaker 1: he just blew up my line? He said to me,

1783
01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:16,599
Speaker 1: I don't remember though, he like he was basically saying,

1784
01:39:16,640 --> 01:39:18,800
Speaker 1: how night selling this rack? Playing these whack niggers like

1785
01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:21,960
Speaker 1: Cameron and Nelly? He just Nellie and then he told

1786
01:39:21,960 --> 01:39:24,439
Speaker 1: me that much. Yeah, he was like, yeah, y'all appear

1787
01:39:24,479 --> 01:39:27,920
Speaker 1: playing this garbage you want to bring up. Yeah, it's like,

1788
01:39:28,040 --> 01:39:32,360
Speaker 1: y'all nigga is playing this garbage up here, and I'm like, damn,

1789
01:39:32,439 --> 01:39:34,640
Speaker 1: what the fund was that about? So normal story is

1790
01:39:34,720 --> 01:39:36,360
Speaker 1: we have to think and we're like, damn, if we're

1791
01:39:36,400 --> 01:39:44,920
Speaker 1: gonna respects, right, you just win that jay Z. This

1792
01:39:45,120 --> 01:39:51,719
Speaker 1: is arguably the best guy, or not to what I'm saying.

1793
01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:54,439
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. What the there's nothing to you

1794
01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:57,120
Speaker 1: but everything I'm telling you, right, And that's why it's

1795
01:39:57,120 --> 01:39:59,400
Speaker 1: good to have this cover everything you're telling me, I'm

1796
01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:02,080
Speaker 1: telling your or the questions you're asking are good because

1797
01:40:02,560 --> 01:40:04,720
Speaker 1: in all these stories we're talking about, did I just

1798
01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:08,599
Speaker 1: start anything? Did I just randomly come out of nowhere

1799
01:40:08,640 --> 01:40:12,439
Speaker 1: and just be this? And not or until this ped

1800
01:40:12,560 --> 01:40:16,880
Speaker 1: crack story we I speaking of as an outside looking in,

1801
01:40:17,760 --> 01:40:22,120
Speaker 1: we thought that I was wilding. It's really like like

1802
01:40:23,240 --> 01:40:26,000
Speaker 1: Dame was like trying to break up. Break up like

1803
01:40:26,120 --> 01:40:28,840
Speaker 1: one of the questions that you know, we always do

1804
01:40:28,920 --> 01:40:30,960
Speaker 1: this before we do a drink, chance, well, I give

1805
01:40:31,000 --> 01:40:33,240
Speaker 1: somebody a clue. When you had to give somebody the clue.

1806
01:40:33,240 --> 01:40:36,360
Speaker 1: I didn't want to say I I can't, but everybody's like, yo,

1807
01:40:37,040 --> 01:40:40,759
Speaker 1: ask Camps straight up, does he think he's the reason

1808
01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:44,640
Speaker 1: Dame Dash and jay Z broke up? Like, no, I

1809
01:40:44,760 --> 01:40:46,920
Speaker 1: know the real reason? And then't I mean, they've got

1810
01:40:46,960 --> 01:40:49,679
Speaker 1: nothing to me from now? Started looking in it looks

1811
01:40:49,680 --> 01:40:52,760
Speaker 1: good and I don't want to say because, um, well

1812
01:40:52,840 --> 01:40:54,640
Speaker 1: they don't give a funk. You know, I don't think

1813
01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:57,640
Speaker 1: none of them giving my opinion. Yeah, my point my

1814
01:40:57,960 --> 01:41:01,120
Speaker 1: opinion is this. It started and they didn't get Jay's

1815
01:41:01,360 --> 01:41:05,040
Speaker 1: opinion or input on trying to make me the president.

1816
01:41:05,400 --> 01:41:08,400
Speaker 1: He started shining away. Then from what Dames says, I

1817
01:41:08,439 --> 01:41:09,960
Speaker 1: don't you know that sudden you have to ask jay

1818
01:41:10,040 --> 01:41:12,439
Speaker 1: Z is that he got to a point where he

1819
01:41:12,479 --> 01:41:14,720
Speaker 1: didn't want to break bread with Biggs no more so,

1820
01:41:15,080 --> 01:41:17,560
Speaker 1: Dame says, who didn't want to break bread? Jay Z?

1821
01:41:18,360 --> 01:41:20,040
Speaker 1: Like they split? I don't know they split. I don't

1822
01:41:20,040 --> 01:41:22,439
Speaker 1: know if it's fifty three three, I don't know if

1823
01:41:22,680 --> 01:41:26,080
Speaker 1: jay got sixty. This is Dame's story. This is what

1824
01:41:26,240 --> 01:41:28,240
Speaker 1: he's saying. Why everything, like all they don't want to

1825
01:41:28,240 --> 01:41:30,920
Speaker 1: break Biggs off no more that. I'm like, I don't

1826
01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:33,960
Speaker 1: know after oh boy, this is yet you got the

1827
01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:37,000
Speaker 1: cologne over right? You know what I'm saying. But you

1828
01:41:37,120 --> 01:41:40,360
Speaker 1: could see jay Z started distance yourself. He'll be around,

1829
01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:43,200
Speaker 1: but he'll be you can see it, you know what

1830
01:41:43,240 --> 01:41:45,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like you know if nigger come to office

1831
01:41:45,120 --> 01:41:48,479
Speaker 1: five days a week, then from because O g Wan

1832
01:41:48,600 --> 01:41:52,400
Speaker 1: is with him, who was also another hardlem god w

1833
01:41:52,640 --> 01:41:54,799
Speaker 1: my man, Like why are you something come to baseline

1834
01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:57,200
Speaker 1: where I want this your house? Like not overstep in

1835
01:41:57,320 --> 01:42:03,360
Speaker 1: jay Z, when you liked this this situation because like

1836
01:42:03,439 --> 01:42:06,280
Speaker 1: I said, so many people are fans of you, fans

1837
01:42:06,360 --> 01:42:09,360
Speaker 1: of this show. That people that that was the direct question.

1838
01:42:09,360 --> 01:42:13,400
Speaker 1: That's the most anything you want to talk, that was

1839
01:42:13,479 --> 01:42:17,960
Speaker 1: the direct um breakup of it. So I think that's

1840
01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:20,360
Speaker 1: something that you have to ask Ja Dame or whoever.

1841
01:42:20,840 --> 01:42:23,720
Speaker 1: But me personally, I just think it's like a communication

1842
01:42:24,280 --> 01:42:29,639
Speaker 1: and jay Z wasn't not saying respecting, he wasn't digging

1843
01:42:29,720 --> 01:42:34,280
Speaker 1: how ship was being ran where he wasn't around. That's

1844
01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:36,160
Speaker 1: what I think. And then you know because Jay when

1845
01:42:36,360 --> 01:42:38,400
Speaker 1: when I got there, Jay won't coming to office every day,

1846
01:42:38,439 --> 01:42:40,200
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I don't think he

1847
01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:43,240
Speaker 1: necessarily like everything that was going on in the office,

1848
01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:46,880
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's decisions being made without him being

1849
01:42:47,720 --> 01:42:49,880
Speaker 1: talked to about it or anything like that, to where

1850
01:42:49,920 --> 01:42:52,960
Speaker 1: he probably was playing an induction on his own before

1851
01:42:53,040 --> 01:42:55,640
Speaker 1: it came to light anyway. But there's something you have

1852
01:42:55,720 --> 01:42:59,120
Speaker 1: to ask him. Me personally, I think my situation played

1853
01:42:59,120 --> 01:43:01,679
Speaker 1: a role year, but not purposely that I did anything.

1854
01:43:02,280 --> 01:43:04,479
Speaker 1: I just think I just thinking That's why I said

1855
01:43:04,479 --> 01:43:05,760
Speaker 1: I didn't want to go there. I just think that

1856
01:43:05,840 --> 01:43:09,080
Speaker 1: we bought too much there to wear to We're like, yea,

1857
01:43:09,200 --> 01:43:12,240
Speaker 1: you got state property there, and now I don't want

1858
01:43:12,240 --> 01:43:14,920
Speaker 1: to use the word falling in line or bleak there

1859
01:43:15,040 --> 01:43:16,200
Speaker 1: and I don't want to like I said, not for

1860
01:43:16,400 --> 01:43:19,720
Speaker 1: the life, because they've more considered family. But we came there.

1861
01:43:19,720 --> 01:43:23,080
Speaker 1: It's almost like we funk with y'all, but we can't wait. Yeah,

1862
01:43:23,200 --> 01:43:25,559
Speaker 1: we can't wait. We don't want to wait for y'all

1863
01:43:25,600 --> 01:43:27,439
Speaker 1: to say, Yo, this is going to al right cool,

1864
01:43:27,439 --> 01:43:29,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to the niggas y'all funk with and

1865
01:43:29,240 --> 01:43:32,360
Speaker 1: bust these moves. But and just down the third and

1866
01:43:32,439 --> 01:43:35,680
Speaker 1: then we just got overwhelmed, overwhelmed to where it's like,

1867
01:43:36,200 --> 01:43:38,200
Speaker 1: how the fun Like I told you, Sparkses came in

1868
01:43:38,240 --> 01:43:40,439
Speaker 1: the office for Philly like I can't get office. I

1869
01:43:40,479 --> 01:43:43,120
Speaker 1: remember that. Then he came in one day and then

1870
01:43:43,520 --> 01:43:45,639
Speaker 1: Sparks is the funny thing. I liked him to pause.

1871
01:43:45,720 --> 01:43:50,400
Speaker 1: That's the guy and state property. Yeah exactly. Yeah, he

1872
01:43:50,560 --> 01:43:57,360
Speaker 1: came in one day. Yeah, yeah, Jim pulled the gum out.

1873
01:43:58,360 --> 01:44:00,720
Speaker 1: He came there one day because there be rocking, we

1874
01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:03,040
Speaker 1: got albums moving on. He just came in there one day.

1875
01:44:05,800 --> 01:44:09,760
Speaker 1: Niggas said, yo, he came my office. Last said, kim

1876
01:44:10,680 --> 01:44:14,320
Speaker 1: My CD done, we're marketing. Well, I gotta go, I said,

1877
01:44:18,160 --> 01:44:21,880
Speaker 1: he said, promotions anything, man, it's done. I said, you

1878
01:44:21,960 --> 01:44:25,960
Speaker 1: gotta go talk to the office. You know, he said,

1879
01:44:26,000 --> 01:44:28,559
Speaker 1: you ain't talking to nobody because you're just doing whatever

1880
01:44:30,160 --> 01:44:35,000
Speaker 1: I said. It may seem like that, but it's a protocol,

1881
01:44:35,160 --> 01:44:37,080
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like when the protocol this

1882
01:44:37,240 --> 01:44:40,240
Speaker 1: and just buked off talking to himself or whatever. But

1883
01:44:40,720 --> 01:44:44,559
Speaker 1: you know what them Niggas was all waiting for Niggas

1884
01:44:44,640 --> 01:44:46,439
Speaker 1: and Rockfall to get the ship together, and I went

1885
01:44:46,479 --> 01:44:48,920
Speaker 1: through that already yet entertainment. I went through that an

1886
01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:51,479
Speaker 1: epic until I said, I'm not letting that happen again.

1887
01:44:51,560 --> 01:44:53,599
Speaker 1: Not nothing bad, but I know who I need to meet,

1888
01:44:53,640 --> 01:44:55,439
Speaker 1: who I need to talk to, But the musicals don't

1889
01:44:55,439 --> 01:44:58,680
Speaker 1: get done and we're gonna bust the move. So I

1890
01:44:58,760 --> 01:45:01,360
Speaker 1: just think it was a lot moving too fast, and

1891
01:45:01,640 --> 01:45:06,719
Speaker 1: Niggas wasn't basically letting jay Z know, like like basically,

1892
01:45:06,800 --> 01:45:09,720
Speaker 1: for instance, right you run Rocket Fellow Records and you're

1893
01:45:09,760 --> 01:45:13,000
Speaker 1: here on TV right that Kim's going to be the president,

1894
01:45:13,120 --> 01:45:15,679
Speaker 1: like the fun called me. You know what, I'm saying

1895
01:45:15,760 --> 01:45:18,960
Speaker 1: that same thing, like with diplomats, same thing, Like I

1896
01:45:19,120 --> 01:45:21,680
Speaker 1: ran not saying random artists like yo, we're gonna make

1897
01:45:21,720 --> 01:45:25,280
Speaker 1: it fucking JR. Right at the president at the time,

1898
01:45:25,400 --> 01:45:28,080
Speaker 1: like who said that that I didn't say that. If

1899
01:45:28,120 --> 01:45:30,439
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be my label, you get what I'm saying.

1900
01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:33,200
Speaker 1: So I think it was like a lack of communication,

1901
01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:38,880
Speaker 1: you know what. That goddamn that left a lot of

1902
01:45:39,040 --> 01:45:45,120
Speaker 1: my shoulders kill me. That make noise for that when

1903
01:45:45,200 --> 01:45:47,720
Speaker 1: you said I've mentioned this on drink chains before. When

1904
01:45:47,760 --> 01:45:51,880
Speaker 1: you say, and I'm paraphrasing, when the funk we start bouncing,

1905
01:45:51,960 --> 01:45:53,920
Speaker 1: when the New York stopped bouncings that what you say

1906
01:45:53,960 --> 01:46:00,360
Speaker 1: and not second that's my second album, so get out

1907
01:46:00,360 --> 01:46:03,960
Speaker 1: of that. JA. That's definitely was it. Yeah, it seemed

1908
01:46:03,960 --> 01:46:08,400
Speaker 1: like it, but yeah, bounced bounced with Okay, I'm not

1909
01:46:08,439 --> 01:46:11,360
Speaker 1: gonna say it. It might have been. It might have been.

1910
01:46:11,640 --> 01:46:14,639
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I can't recall. That was a haze,

1911
01:46:14,680 --> 01:46:18,680
Speaker 1: that was wild. It was a wild time, But you

1912
01:46:18,760 --> 01:46:20,720
Speaker 1: weren't thinking that anybody specific at the time when you

1913
01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:25,120
Speaker 1: wrote that. I ain't gonna say that I don't remember

1914
01:46:25,320 --> 01:46:27,560
Speaker 1: that song came in my nine I might I'm not

1915
01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:30,040
Speaker 1: gonna say it wasn't. I'm not saying you know, the

1916
01:46:30,120 --> 01:46:34,080
Speaker 1: whole record this and Jay z uh Yeah, So I'm

1917
01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:35,840
Speaker 1: not gonna say I I don't remember if I did

1918
01:46:35,880 --> 01:46:37,920
Speaker 1: it because I feel like you saw the future of

1919
01:46:37,960 --> 01:46:41,960
Speaker 1: New York. New York after that was bouncing. Okay, right,

1920
01:46:42,680 --> 01:46:50,000
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say yes, and I'm gonna take your

1921
01:46:50,000 --> 01:46:56,679
Speaker 1: word for it. So moving on fifty fifty was cool

1922
01:46:57,240 --> 01:47:02,920
Speaker 1: even just said earlier that horse and Carriage. Fifty told

1923
01:47:03,000 --> 01:47:06,599
Speaker 1: you that he was actually in that pool. Right, where

1924
01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:08,760
Speaker 1: did you guys go on? I didn't, I didn't see that.

1925
01:47:09,280 --> 01:47:11,960
Speaker 1: What happened was, you know, so basically Jim and went

1926
01:47:12,080 --> 01:47:16,000
Speaker 1: over the Cotch Records and we started doing a lot

1927
01:47:16,040 --> 01:47:18,519
Speaker 1: of business with Cotch Records, and Coach was a label

1928
01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:21,000
Speaker 1: that wasn't that popular at the time, you know what

1929
01:47:21,080 --> 01:47:23,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So fifty started and being we was the

1930
01:47:23,479 --> 01:47:25,479
Speaker 1: only biggest artist day at the time, they had a

1931
01:47:25,520 --> 01:47:28,360
Speaker 1: bunch of niggas. Wasn't popping. They's like they want to

1932
01:47:28,400 --> 01:47:30,840
Speaker 1: go on up a bag. A lot of people called it.

1933
01:47:31,080 --> 01:47:34,280
Speaker 1: It wasn't was it land before and then they became

1934
01:47:34,320 --> 01:47:42,160
Speaker 1: When I got there in Boston, I didn't even know that.

1935
01:47:42,479 --> 01:47:46,200
Speaker 1: But like, so when we got um, well now we

1936
01:47:46,400 --> 01:47:48,360
Speaker 1: Jim probably eat that whole deal for himself. He seen

1937
01:47:48,920 --> 01:47:50,880
Speaker 1: they didn't want to sign Jim because you said that

1938
01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:53,439
Speaker 1: you bumped you out. Yeah, but they don't. I brought

1939
01:47:53,479 --> 01:47:55,200
Speaker 1: him too. They didn't want to sign him, but Jim

1940
01:47:55,280 --> 01:47:57,120
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna wait and he was. Jim started doing his

1941
01:47:57,240 --> 01:47:59,479
Speaker 1: own thing, moving around everywhere. So he came to me,

1942
01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:01,519
Speaker 1: He's like yo ho. When to me, I'm like, bad,

1943
01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:04,280
Speaker 1: we could get the deal. So cos had a bunch

1944
01:48:04,280 --> 01:48:06,080
Speaker 1: of old artis stage ready to go in an old

1945
01:48:06,200 --> 01:48:08,280
Speaker 1: bag and pull out all that old money and spend

1946
01:48:08,320 --> 01:48:11,080
Speaker 1: it on new talent. And if it coincided at the

1947
01:48:11,160 --> 01:48:13,120
Speaker 1: same time we was doing our ship a depth to him,

1948
01:48:13,439 --> 01:48:16,320
Speaker 1: it was perfect. So when we started other artists over

1949
01:48:16,360 --> 01:48:19,400
Speaker 1: there due to God and I was, you know, artisides

1950
01:48:19,479 --> 01:48:22,599
Speaker 1: dealing with so fittings on the rail saying that that's

1951
01:48:22,680 --> 01:48:25,680
Speaker 1: the graveyard for rappers. You know. He's like, that's the

1952
01:48:25,760 --> 01:48:29,080
Speaker 1: graveyard that gets over there. They go over there to die,

1953
01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:31,120
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So we just took a

1954
01:48:31,240 --> 01:48:34,240
Speaker 1: fence to it because we're like, who else you talking about?

1955
01:48:34,360 --> 01:48:36,960
Speaker 1: Like nobody's been talking to nobody's been talking about Cots

1956
01:48:37,040 --> 01:48:38,560
Speaker 1: for us since we know, because I didn't even know

1957
01:48:38,600 --> 01:48:40,439
Speaker 1: about him till Jim told me about him. Yeah, but

1958
01:48:40,479 --> 01:48:42,400
Speaker 1: they used to be land Speed. That's the reason when

1959
01:48:42,439 --> 01:48:44,200
Speaker 1: he was talking, Yeah, I didn't know. You didn't know that.

1960
01:48:44,400 --> 01:48:46,400
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. So when he was saying he

1961
01:48:46,479 --> 01:48:50,799
Speaker 1: didn't say land speed, he was in Bob Perry office

1962
01:48:51,000 --> 01:48:55,240
Speaker 1: or Alan Grumlock. Yeah. So we're just going through it.

1963
01:48:55,320 --> 01:48:57,280
Speaker 1: And then I just got on the phone and we

1964
01:48:57,360 --> 01:48:58,800
Speaker 1: just went back and forth with it. But I just

1965
01:48:58,880 --> 01:49:01,160
Speaker 1: took a fence to cops. Was like out home too,

1966
01:49:01,240 --> 01:49:03,920
Speaker 1: as far as death chair and everything else. We took

1967
01:49:04,000 --> 01:49:06,560
Speaker 1: cops like that was our crib like we used to

1968
01:49:06,600 --> 01:49:10,200
Speaker 1: going there. Wow. Zeke always telling me about how like

1969
01:49:10,800 --> 01:49:14,920
Speaker 1: you just calmed down, Zeke. I don't know. I don't

1970
01:49:14,920 --> 01:49:16,920
Speaker 1: know what. I don't know what's going on, Zeke. I know,

1971
01:49:17,040 --> 01:49:19,960
Speaker 1: I know even twenty five yeall you just you just

1972
01:49:20,080 --> 01:49:21,720
Speaker 1: you just heard just chilling. I don't know. I'm like

1973
01:49:21,800 --> 01:49:25,200
Speaker 1: getting it like I'm just I'm doing something. Okay, I

1974
01:49:25,320 --> 01:49:30,240
Speaker 1: like you old shops like that. That's right in North Carolina? Right,

1975
01:49:30,600 --> 01:49:33,400
Speaker 1: did you out did you out did doing your ship? Okay? Yeah, okay,

1976
01:49:33,520 --> 01:49:37,479
Speaker 1: So what he was filiciously and I was just saying that. So,

1977
01:49:39,680 --> 01:49:45,000
Speaker 1: so fifty goes on the radio you call in um,

1978
01:49:45,400 --> 01:49:49,040
Speaker 1: I don't remember, but probably so probably a number he

1979
01:49:49,160 --> 01:49:51,599
Speaker 1: was in cots when he was just cos okay, yes,

1980
01:49:51,720 --> 01:49:55,000
Speaker 1: I called Daniel and we just started like, yo, why

1981
01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:57,400
Speaker 1: are you coming? Because to me, it wasn't coming to cops,

1982
01:49:58,000 --> 01:50:01,519
Speaker 1: it was coming at us because who gives the funk

1983
01:50:01,560 --> 01:50:04,680
Speaker 1: about Michael Cotch? And I don't respect the Mike cos

1984
01:50:04,840 --> 01:50:08,320
Speaker 1: that's my man, or Alan Grumblack or why randomly just

1985
01:50:08,680 --> 01:50:11,479
Speaker 1: this them nigger, as if they was land Speed or

1986
01:50:11,520 --> 01:50:14,439
Speaker 1: they was whoever else, and why all of a sudden

1987
01:50:14,520 --> 01:50:17,400
Speaker 1: when we hear him, it's this them. So that's how

1988
01:50:17,439 --> 01:50:19,400
Speaker 1: I took it at the time. How many projects you

1989
01:50:19,520 --> 01:50:23,439
Speaker 1: had at that time? At what Cotch? It was Jim, Jim,

1990
01:50:23,640 --> 01:50:26,280
Speaker 1: how I was trying to go. They rushed the dealing

1991
01:50:26,360 --> 01:50:28,960
Speaker 1: this son and baby Grandma's son. But Duke the God

1992
01:50:29,160 --> 01:50:32,080
Speaker 1: was doing all the albums there and his ship turned

1993
01:50:32,120 --> 01:50:34,840
Speaker 1: in the compilations of all of us, so he would

1994
01:50:34,880 --> 01:50:36,920
Speaker 1: have duel songs, he would have Jim songs, he has

1995
01:50:37,040 --> 01:50:39,439
Speaker 1: my songs, he obviously songs, he'll have everything. But we

1996
01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:43,560
Speaker 1: was putting instead of the mix tapes. So once we

1997
01:50:43,760 --> 01:50:45,880
Speaker 1: was doing stopped doing the mix tapes, you released them.

1998
01:50:45,880 --> 01:50:50,479
Speaker 1: Officials would start releasing them at Cotch officially, and that's

1999
01:50:50,479 --> 01:50:52,439
Speaker 1: how all our ships and we'll put them under the

2000
01:50:52,479 --> 01:50:54,880
Speaker 1: duke the god names so he like hosted tapes, but

2001
01:50:54,960 --> 01:50:57,960
Speaker 1: all the mix tapes became money because we was releasing

2002
01:50:58,040 --> 01:51:03,240
Speaker 1: them all in Cotch. That was the game at that point, right, yeah, yeah,

2003
01:51:03,360 --> 01:51:09,720
Speaker 1: changed the game, goddamn it. You know how plus where

2004
01:51:09,720 --> 01:51:19,880
Speaker 1: you are? Yeah yeah, I mean it's some real ship.

2005
01:51:20,080 --> 01:51:22,160
Speaker 1: Like I don't know what the pink horse power is,

2006
01:51:22,200 --> 01:51:23,880
Speaker 1: but I'm about to take a shot of that. I

2007
01:51:23,960 --> 01:51:26,760
Speaker 1: got a case for you if it's don't take a

2008
01:51:26,800 --> 01:51:29,920
Speaker 1: shot right now, but I'm home in a second thing.

2009
01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:32,040
Speaker 1: I got my time limit. I'm about to say now

2010
01:51:32,160 --> 01:51:35,120
Speaker 1: that you know it's all naturals from Africa's straight up

2011
01:51:35,160 --> 01:51:37,640
Speaker 1: and ain't no gas. They're supposed or nothing. But we

2012
01:51:37,920 --> 01:51:40,720
Speaker 1: didn't introduce pink power at all. So you say it

2013
01:51:40,760 --> 01:51:42,800
Speaker 1: from Africa people that's listening, because if we got a

2014
01:51:42,800 --> 01:51:45,640
Speaker 1: big audience that listener and that that can't watch this

2015
01:51:45,800 --> 01:51:47,920
Speaker 1: right now to do the joke drivers out there. So

2016
01:51:48,040 --> 01:51:52,240
Speaker 1: this squab so basically horse powers. It's an all natural

2017
01:51:52,600 --> 01:51:59,599
Speaker 1: supplements similar to similar to viagra, tree barks, roots, leaves,

2018
01:51:59,800 --> 01:52:02,639
Speaker 1: all made in um I don't want to say Ghana,

2019
01:52:02,680 --> 01:52:05,120
Speaker 1: but it's a part of Africa and we bought it

2020
01:52:05,200 --> 01:52:07,280
Speaker 1: over here so that you know, if you need a

2021
01:52:07,360 --> 01:52:09,360
Speaker 1: little help in the bedroom, you don't have to take

2022
01:52:09,400 --> 01:52:11,400
Speaker 1: a gas c shappella. You don't have to take something

2023
01:52:11,479 --> 01:52:14,320
Speaker 1: from the pharmacy. You can take something all natural and

2024
01:52:14,400 --> 01:52:16,920
Speaker 1: it's really gonna work. But your man was telling you,

2025
01:52:17,160 --> 01:52:19,320
Speaker 1: is right, that ship working like fifty minutes. Don't take

2026
01:52:19,360 --> 01:52:21,719
Speaker 1: it around nobody that you don't want to be around

2027
01:52:21,760 --> 01:52:24,200
Speaker 1: when it's time to take it. How do you know

2028
01:52:24,360 --> 01:52:33,559
Speaker 1: about that? You want to take it right now? It's

2029
01:52:33,600 --> 01:52:36,200
Speaker 1: not one of them things you can say, is you

2030
01:52:36,280 --> 01:52:38,000
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying this and not one of them. Sisters,

2031
01:52:38,000 --> 01:52:39,160
Speaker 1: you can be like I'm gonna let it chill in

2032
01:52:39,240 --> 01:52:44,519
Speaker 1: my system and stop because what we thought it is

2033
01:52:44,720 --> 01:52:47,080
Speaker 1: like tiger balls when you could sit bit. Yeah, and

2034
01:52:47,120 --> 01:52:58,160
Speaker 1: you're still chill. You you you knocking it down like yeah, Sisters,

2035
01:52:59,439 --> 01:53:02,760
Speaker 1: can't be read with that. No man, Sugar was here,

2036
01:53:02,880 --> 01:53:05,759
Speaker 1: you telling me, tell you shake it. He's telling Ecstacy

2037
01:53:05,920 --> 01:53:09,720
Speaker 1: right should took this. My man should and told me

2038
01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:11,240
Speaker 1: you have to hop out the car because he's in

2039
01:53:11,280 --> 01:53:14,240
Speaker 1: his car with his mother and it wasn't right. I

2040
01:53:14,439 --> 01:53:16,479
Speaker 1: want to take for the story now I'm just telling

2041
01:53:16,560 --> 01:53:20,920
Speaker 1: you that he took it too early and you got

2042
01:53:21,360 --> 01:53:25,120
Speaker 1: on your mom's in the cars. Mom. And what I'm

2043
01:53:25,120 --> 01:53:30,200
Speaker 1: trying to tell you it ain't mental. It's gonna work. Hearts,

2044
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:33,320
Speaker 1: that's all you know. Power, it ain't about That's what

2045
01:53:33,439 --> 01:53:36,760
Speaker 1: t tell man. At this point, the man tell you

2046
01:53:37,160 --> 01:53:41,719
Speaker 1: don't take it because you're gonna be like, yeah, take

2047
01:53:41,800 --> 01:53:45,879
Speaker 1: that right. You remember the R expels, the blue arxpells.

2048
01:53:46,200 --> 01:53:55,519
Speaker 1: They don't remembers. Yeah, I can tell this first, doesn't

2049
01:53:56,120 --> 01:54:01,640
Speaker 1: you with we can press after the chill. See you

2050
01:54:01,760 --> 01:54:05,040
Speaker 1: got you went a little buff. I would horney go

2051
01:54:05,240 --> 01:54:07,840
Speaker 1: weed after the alls. This is no, this is not

2052
01:54:08,000 --> 01:54:10,719
Speaker 1: it ya this past that. That's you said when niggers

2053
01:54:10,760 --> 01:54:15,680
Speaker 1: using Now it's honey, anybody going honeys honey, Yeah, look

2054
01:54:15,720 --> 01:54:18,880
Speaker 1: at some man. Yeah, look at it. Sneak You see

2055
01:54:20,040 --> 01:54:24,439
Speaker 1: anybody better? You see his sneakers. Cat, look at Cathlea.

2056
01:54:24,520 --> 01:54:27,040
Speaker 1: Look at my cabral, my main cab. They get too

2057
01:54:27,080 --> 01:54:39,440
Speaker 1: much money to do with this. Come on again, keeping

2058
01:54:41,280 --> 01:54:47,680
Speaker 1: keeping honey. You know what yo, what's your name? Honey? Ordience?

2059
01:54:47,760 --> 01:54:51,560
Speaker 1: Somebody appreciate that. Not some girl right now. I was

2060
01:54:51,600 --> 01:54:56,600
Speaker 1: gonna say, he killed it's saying me to do that

2061
01:54:57,480 --> 01:55:01,160
Speaker 1: what they love They listen straight ships like all the way.

2062
01:55:01,240 --> 01:55:07,000
Speaker 1: Ye know he's not gonna get homebo that Eddie Murphy.

2063
01:55:07,080 --> 01:55:12,600
Speaker 1: J know, Texas, you kind of made those what is that?

2064
01:55:12,760 --> 01:55:19,640
Speaker 1: Baby is that? Babe baby Clark? They collaboration failed. They

2065
01:55:19,760 --> 01:55:21,760
Speaker 1: just be clear. You know a lot of these wren

2066
01:55:21,800 --> 01:55:26,640
Speaker 1: to do colaboracing baby baby Clark. It didn't work. Just

2067
01:55:26,840 --> 01:55:31,960
Speaker 1: continue the one where you're working. Don't you know where

2068
01:55:31,960 --> 01:55:35,320
Speaker 1: you're laughing because he like y'all don't even know ye

2069
01:55:40,160 --> 01:55:50,280
Speaker 1: that race, that collaboration didn't work. I can't believe this

2070
01:55:50,400 --> 01:55:56,040
Speaker 1: is great, This is this is so great, Holy MONI guacamoni,

2071
01:55:56,320 --> 01:56:02,560
Speaker 1: okay boom. The only time I was glad like we

2072
01:56:02,680 --> 01:56:06,080
Speaker 1: got you know, but the only time I've ever been

2073
01:56:06,200 --> 01:56:08,960
Speaker 1: disappointed and you you told me it was disappointed in me.

2074
01:56:09,360 --> 01:56:11,560
Speaker 1: Only time I ever was disappointed in you when you

2075
01:56:11,680 --> 01:56:16,680
Speaker 1: and Jim was beefing. I didn't understand it. I couldn't.

2076
01:56:16,800 --> 01:56:19,520
Speaker 1: I couldn't get it. How is that? How was that

2077
01:56:19,680 --> 01:56:23,520
Speaker 1: for you? Like when y'all felt out for to me? No,

2078
01:56:23,960 --> 01:56:26,720
Speaker 1: like you know, if you ever look at it, when

2079
01:56:26,760 --> 01:56:28,920
Speaker 1: the gym was upset for me for what ever? The

2080
01:56:29,120 --> 01:56:32,160
Speaker 1: fifty million times he's been upsetting. I never did gym.

2081
01:56:32,240 --> 01:56:34,520
Speaker 1: I never fourth back, I never did a song. I

2082
01:56:34,640 --> 01:56:36,600
Speaker 1: never fell into that because that's my brother. I know

2083
01:56:36,720 --> 01:56:39,320
Speaker 1: he might be emotional gym, real emotional guy. So you

2084
01:56:39,400 --> 01:56:43,080
Speaker 1: ain't never hear no disrecord. You never heard heard I

2085
01:56:43,200 --> 01:56:45,320
Speaker 1: played Jim or nothing like that. The only thing I

2086
01:56:45,400 --> 01:56:47,720
Speaker 1: ever did was when he went on phone Master Flex

2087
01:56:48,360 --> 01:56:50,160
Speaker 1: I was saying that I didn't come to shows or

2088
01:56:50,160 --> 01:56:53,720
Speaker 1: anything like that. I did alive, you know, rebuttaling what

2089
01:56:53,840 --> 01:56:57,320
Speaker 1: he said. But I've never did gym ever to this day.

2090
01:56:57,400 --> 01:56:59,800
Speaker 1: So it may seem like be going through it or

2091
01:56:59,800 --> 01:57:02,720
Speaker 1: what ever from his end or whatever, but you can't

2092
01:57:02,760 --> 01:57:06,400
Speaker 1: find nothing of me this and gym nowhere. I wouldn't

2093
01:57:06,400 --> 01:57:09,480
Speaker 1: never this him because I fall out period. I was

2094
01:57:09,560 --> 01:57:14,520
Speaker 1: just like, but but that's my point, so much fall

2095
01:57:14,600 --> 01:57:17,280
Speaker 1: out with me. But I know him. I know he's

2096
01:57:17,360 --> 01:57:21,200
Speaker 1: upset for the minute, so I don't know, so like,

2097
01:57:22,440 --> 01:57:26,120
Speaker 1: I've never really this gym ever. Like I said, I

2098
01:57:26,160 --> 01:57:29,080
Speaker 1: did one thing, you know, the correct a few things

2099
01:57:29,160 --> 01:57:31,720
Speaker 1: that I thought was wrong when he did the funk

2100
01:57:31,800 --> 01:57:33,960
Speaker 1: Flex interview. But I know he was really upset at

2101
01:57:34,000 --> 01:57:36,400
Speaker 1: the time, so I was like, let me just clear

2102
01:57:36,400 --> 01:57:39,640
Speaker 1: a couple of things up. So but I've never died Gym.

2103
01:57:40,040 --> 01:57:43,200
Speaker 1: It's nowhere you can find where I'll be like me

2104
01:57:43,400 --> 01:57:45,680
Speaker 1: this and Gym nowhere. So when he's upset, I just

2105
01:57:45,800 --> 01:57:48,280
Speaker 1: know he's passionate about what he do. He puts his

2106
01:57:48,720 --> 01:57:50,920
Speaker 1: he wears his heart on his sleeve, you know, and

2107
01:57:51,000 --> 01:57:53,720
Speaker 1: everything like that. But I already know after a while

2108
01:57:53,840 --> 01:57:55,800
Speaker 1: it's going weird down and we're gonna be good again.

2109
01:57:55,880 --> 01:57:59,680
Speaker 1: So that's why I never really said, now, you can't

2110
01:57:59,720 --> 01:58:02,400
Speaker 1: put end up with me, him, this and them right now. No, No,

2111
01:58:02,480 --> 01:58:05,400
Speaker 1: I'm just saying this is discripacy, period, absolutely, because I

2112
01:58:05,520 --> 01:58:09,520
Speaker 1: love seeing y'all together so much. And that's that's that's

2113
01:58:09,560 --> 01:58:10,960
Speaker 1: what I know from y'all. You know what I'm saying,

2114
01:58:10,960 --> 01:58:12,680
Speaker 1: Like I know y'all from the count of the beginning,

2115
01:58:12,760 --> 01:58:17,600
Speaker 1: Like I know these stories you spoke about today, and

2116
01:58:18,640 --> 01:58:21,160
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm not putting gem in because that's my family,

2117
01:58:21,240 --> 01:58:24,959
Speaker 1: yess not. It's no story where I started with nobody.

2118
01:58:26,440 --> 01:58:28,120
Speaker 1: I'm glad we got to clad up on your show

2119
01:58:28,240 --> 01:58:31,440
Speaker 1: because every time I wanted somebody, you came to me first.

2120
01:58:31,560 --> 01:58:35,360
Speaker 1: Well I felt like you did. Yeah, we just did.

2121
01:58:39,400 --> 01:58:41,480
Speaker 1: And I was just saying that nobody else was on

2122
01:58:41,640 --> 01:58:45,240
Speaker 1: cots to just randomly discotch. It wasn't like mob Deeper

2123
01:58:45,280 --> 01:58:47,200
Speaker 1: got there yet or anybody else that got there. We

2124
01:58:47,280 --> 01:58:50,000
Speaker 1: used the only ones there. So if it was land

2125
01:58:50,040 --> 01:58:53,120
Speaker 1: Speed Up Catch or whoever it was, it was like,

2126
01:58:53,280 --> 01:58:56,440
Speaker 1: why dissed them out there? Blue? But what the says

2127
01:58:56,480 --> 01:58:59,840
Speaker 1: the graveyard for rappers? The only rappers then except for me.

2128
01:59:00,040 --> 01:59:01,520
Speaker 1: It kind of felt like he was picking on Mace

2129
01:59:01,600 --> 01:59:03,800
Speaker 1: a little bit, okay, But at the end of the day,

2130
01:59:03,800 --> 01:59:05,520
Speaker 1: I just told you, he kept hitting me in my

2131
01:59:05,680 --> 01:59:10,600
Speaker 1: ribs like this sixteen different times. Yeah, like I said,

2132
01:59:10,680 --> 01:59:13,000
Speaker 1: these stories, because it'd be a hundred of different stories

2133
01:59:13,560 --> 01:59:15,360
Speaker 1: I can call the same way we call Pete Crack.

2134
01:59:15,440 --> 01:59:23,120
Speaker 1: I called eight. I'm just telling me that ship Pete

2135
01:59:23,160 --> 01:59:26,960
Speaker 1: Crack just said it would verbat him for whatever. I'm

2136
01:59:26,960 --> 01:59:28,600
Speaker 1: gonna just tell you the facts, mean to tell you

2137
01:59:28,640 --> 01:59:31,720
Speaker 1: exactly what happened. So it may seem like I'm picking

2138
01:59:31,800 --> 01:59:35,960
Speaker 1: on them. But if somebody keep poking you, somebody keep

2139
01:59:36,040 --> 01:59:39,160
Speaker 1: kicking you under the table at dinner. Because he because

2140
01:59:39,240 --> 01:59:41,720
Speaker 1: he made this this record, was was surprised when he

2141
01:59:42,240 --> 01:59:45,040
Speaker 1: that this record. I was proud of him. Oh ship,

2142
01:59:47,800 --> 01:59:50,200
Speaker 1: like that's proud of him. Man. I was like, y'all

2143
01:59:50,280 --> 01:59:54,040
Speaker 1: felt like fucking U. To be honest, I felt like

2144
01:59:54,200 --> 02:00:00,800
Speaker 1: den Zeland training day when the nigga we pulled the

2145
02:00:00,880 --> 02:00:03,920
Speaker 1: gun out and said I'm gonna killing about to kill

2146
02:00:04,040 --> 02:00:20,200
Speaker 1: him in the house and trading yeah, like they get

2147
02:00:20,320 --> 02:00:27,120
Speaker 1: dropping him, like yeah, yeah, he's a good community. I

2148
02:00:27,160 --> 02:00:29,840
Speaker 1: ain't gonna that might have been against its sponsor. I've

2149
02:00:29,840 --> 02:00:41,640
Speaker 1: ever heard that. It's funny, it's bro Holy ready, I've

2150
02:00:41,640 --> 02:00:44,400
Speaker 1: never been this shock right now. I wasn't ready. I

2151
02:00:44,480 --> 02:00:50,960
Speaker 1: wasn't ready, Holy morningly, but putting it all together to

2152
02:00:51,120 --> 02:00:53,560
Speaker 1: see even you guys together right now, you know how

2153
02:00:53,680 --> 02:00:56,440
Speaker 1: hard it is to have a twenty year relationship in

2154
02:00:56,560 --> 02:01:02,800
Speaker 1: this fucking fustiness. Absolutely, so many cools you see from

2155
02:01:02,880 --> 02:01:07,440
Speaker 1: twenty years ago. They don't have three of the same

2156
02:01:07,560 --> 02:01:11,840
Speaker 1: members for the same members that's around. So me seeing

2157
02:01:11,920 --> 02:01:16,160
Speaker 1: y'all brothers together, man, Like I remember doing shows with y'all. U.

2158
02:01:16,560 --> 02:01:19,680
Speaker 1: Mike Lady, you said you said something on this other

2159
02:01:19,800 --> 02:01:24,120
Speaker 1: guy's uh TV one time, so the guy's platform, you

2160
02:01:24,160 --> 02:01:26,040
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. I don't say that guy's

2161
02:01:26,080 --> 02:01:30,520
Speaker 1: thanks he said it earlier. And you described a show

2162
02:01:30,840 --> 02:01:37,560
Speaker 1: with Mike Lady, do you remember the time where oh

2163
02:01:37,640 --> 02:01:41,480
Speaker 1: they tried to get that killer. Oh, yes, it's at

2164
02:01:41,480 --> 02:01:44,360
Speaker 1: the same time. I think I had went there early

2165
02:01:44,640 --> 02:01:47,840
Speaker 1: because this was the ship back in the actually was

2166
02:01:47,960 --> 02:01:50,640
Speaker 1: the reason why we went crazy because I went there earlier,

2167
02:01:50,640 --> 02:01:54,000
Speaker 1: I got paid earlier. Everyone wanted to go. I remember

2168
02:01:54,040 --> 02:01:56,920
Speaker 1: the everyone was the headline of the show, and I

2169
02:01:57,000 --> 02:01:59,280
Speaker 1: was like, let's go, earluse. I know these niggas. I

2170
02:01:59,560 --> 02:02:01,120
Speaker 1: did a show with these things before. They ain't got

2171
02:02:01,160 --> 02:02:04,760
Speaker 1: the bread, so I'm going. I went. I opened up.

2172
02:02:04,760 --> 02:02:07,680
Speaker 1: They're like plat and I'm like, I opened up, let's go.

2173
02:02:09,360 --> 02:02:11,560
Speaker 1: I didn't show giving my money. And then I went

2174
02:02:11,680 --> 02:02:15,200
Speaker 1: and freaky like, yo, where are you going? Said yo, yeah,

2175
02:02:15,200 --> 02:02:17,720
Speaker 1: I got paid. He said, wait a minute, we didn't.

2176
02:02:17,760 --> 02:02:21,840
Speaker 1: I said, supposed to. And then I didn't know from

2177
02:02:21,880 --> 02:02:24,520
Speaker 1: there and I read I saw on the interview that

2178
02:02:24,640 --> 02:02:28,600
Speaker 1: you did. He was like, y'all came and it was

2179
02:02:28,720 --> 02:02:33,800
Speaker 1: it was they didn't have my money, they have my money.

2180
02:02:34,400 --> 02:02:37,080
Speaker 1: And the next thing, you know, they tried some big

2181
02:02:37,240 --> 02:02:44,720
Speaker 1: toll six times the niggas came out. It was redgas. Yeah,

2182
02:02:45,600 --> 02:02:50,080
Speaker 1: and uh they came out. I guess protecting Mike Lady

2183
02:02:50,080 --> 02:02:51,920
Speaker 1: because we're like, give us our money. And then like

2184
02:02:51,960 --> 02:02:53,640
Speaker 1: they had a lot of niggers, but they're like forty

2185
02:02:53,720 --> 02:02:58,480
Speaker 1: niggas and they surrounded me because I think Jim and

2186
02:02:58,600 --> 02:03:00,960
Speaker 1: Black of Dawn on his side beef and like, YO,

2187
02:03:01,080 --> 02:03:03,480
Speaker 1: give us our fucking money. And they walked out like oh,

2188
02:03:03,960 --> 02:03:06,480
Speaker 1: and then like forty niggers filed them around and they

2189
02:03:06,560 --> 02:03:09,480
Speaker 1: surround me like here me beef about your money. And

2190
02:03:09,560 --> 02:03:14,920
Speaker 1: then nigger yapped my chain. Word yeah, I did a

2191
02:03:15,000 --> 02:03:17,800
Speaker 1: song about him, scored that of a That Alive. It

2192
02:03:17,920 --> 02:03:22,520
Speaker 1: turned out crazy, just typing that of a Lot that Alive.

2193
02:03:22,560 --> 02:03:24,840
Speaker 1: I told the whole story on that. Wow, I didn't

2194
02:03:24,880 --> 02:03:27,400
Speaker 1: know that I on this show good. I ain't at

2195
02:03:27,520 --> 02:03:29,560
Speaker 1: I said. I just went and paid the left. So

2196
02:03:30,120 --> 02:03:33,640
Speaker 1: they yat my chain and my man what you just think?

2197
02:03:33,680 --> 02:03:37,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know what I know. This turned

2198
02:03:37,680 --> 02:03:44,120
Speaker 1: out bad for them. You're not getting but my chain.

2199
02:03:44,280 --> 02:03:48,720
Speaker 1: And then my man just came out. I ain't gonna

2200
02:03:48,720 --> 02:03:50,480
Speaker 1: say an he's gonna get mad at me anyway. He

2201
02:03:50,640 --> 02:03:54,480
Speaker 1: fucking came out popping and pistol whip the nigg who

2202
02:03:54,560 --> 02:03:56,920
Speaker 1: took my chain and took his chain and got my

2203
02:03:57,080 --> 02:03:59,440
Speaker 1: chain back. And then we left, and then he's like,

2204
02:03:59,560 --> 02:04:02,960
Speaker 1: fucking Mike Lighty man, snicker got this going all this

2205
02:04:03,080 --> 02:04:11,240
Speaker 1: ship for you actually made a song my only movie,

2206
02:04:12,640 --> 02:04:17,160
Speaker 1: but this did some great story. But I didn't know it.

2207
02:04:17,800 --> 02:04:21,400
Speaker 1: I didn't know that period til I've seen you describe

2208
02:04:21,440 --> 02:04:23,160
Speaker 1: that story. He was like, Yo, because you said, you said,

2209
02:04:23,160 --> 02:04:25,640
Speaker 1: you exactly did exactly what you said. You said, I've

2210
02:04:25,640 --> 02:04:30,400
Speaker 1: seen Nori and because what happened was I kept telling me, yo,

2211
02:04:31,400 --> 02:04:35,040
Speaker 1: you on the tour with everybody hot, they're gonna come late.

2212
02:04:36,200 --> 02:04:39,720
Speaker 1: Don't funk with that lationship. You ain't gonna get bad. Like.

2213
02:04:40,040 --> 02:04:42,240
Speaker 1: So we were supposed to come at nine. I showed

2214
02:04:42,320 --> 02:04:46,000
Speaker 1: up at six like I'm ready. I performed with the

2215
02:04:46,040 --> 02:04:53,040
Speaker 1: sixty people where I killed it. Everybody got paid. But

2216
02:04:53,400 --> 02:04:55,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, but you know what, it was that thing

2217
02:04:55,680 --> 02:04:58,280
Speaker 1: we wanted to the headline, So all of us showed

2218
02:04:58,360 --> 02:05:00,920
Speaker 1: up later. So I had to a vantage of being like,

2219
02:05:01,400 --> 02:05:04,200
Speaker 1: you know, people showing up late, and you know, a

2220
02:05:04,280 --> 02:05:06,280
Speaker 1: certain times we thought it was headlines. But that was

2221
02:05:06,440 --> 02:05:08,400
Speaker 1: that was crazy when I heard six and your uh

2222
02:05:08,920 --> 02:05:12,160
Speaker 1: and I heard your record to it. So what's your

2223
02:05:12,160 --> 02:05:16,200
Speaker 1: favorite ever in hip hop camp? My favorite era? Um?

2224
02:05:19,040 --> 02:05:23,000
Speaker 1: I mean it depends on like as a professional or

2225
02:05:23,080 --> 02:05:26,840
Speaker 1: just a hip hop fan, you know whatever. Yeah, yeah,

2226
02:05:26,960 --> 02:05:28,600
Speaker 1: it's pretty much both. I don't take a shot for

2227
02:05:28,720 --> 02:05:32,560
Speaker 1: that too. You pretty much want to get me drunk cameras.

2228
02:05:34,000 --> 02:05:35,720
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm like, it's a lot of ship.

2229
02:05:35,800 --> 02:05:38,320
Speaker 1: You know. You gotta realize when I was a child,

2230
02:05:38,520 --> 02:05:42,440
Speaker 1: you know, eleven, twelve, thirteen years old, You've got people

2231
02:05:42,480 --> 02:05:44,720
Speaker 1: who I wanted to be like and dressed like. And

2232
02:05:45,560 --> 02:05:47,640
Speaker 1: you know I remember going the Canal Street and get

2233
02:05:47,680 --> 02:05:49,600
Speaker 1: a chain because e p m D have a link,

2234
02:05:49,720 --> 02:05:51,840
Speaker 1: or about the fisherman had because epm D got a

2235
02:05:51,880 --> 02:05:54,920
Speaker 1: fisherman had, or loving Uh you know I used to

2236
02:05:55,000 --> 02:05:57,920
Speaker 1: love nice and smooth, you know, smooth being greg nice

2237
02:05:58,040 --> 02:06:03,360
Speaker 1: and fucking pop called question you ran daddy? Are you

2238
02:06:03,680 --> 02:06:08,800
Speaker 1: and fucking you know, just try to sneak that on

2239
02:06:11,400 --> 02:06:17,000
Speaker 1: you on the grat a g Yeah, definitely a f

2240
02:06:17,480 --> 02:06:19,600
Speaker 1: I ain't know that, so I thought he was all

2241
02:06:19,680 --> 02:06:26,840
Speaker 1: like on space mask, what's the ship? Leave me alone?

2242
02:06:26,840 --> 02:06:34,160
Speaker 1: Ain't no spaces my space, No grand daddy got a page.

2243
02:06:35,000 --> 02:06:39,240
Speaker 1: But you know I knew a girl named can your

2244
02:06:39,360 --> 02:06:45,480
Speaker 1: phone West Virgin Like that made me want to be

2245
02:06:45,560 --> 02:06:49,920
Speaker 1: a rapper. Yeah, like that off I heard that baby

2246
02:06:51,760 --> 02:06:56,280
Speaker 1: can't Yeah, that's so matter at the more the more

2247
02:06:56,520 --> 02:07:01,400
Speaker 1: that's the name of you remember that Jinia mom oh

2248
02:07:02,000 --> 02:07:05,520
Speaker 1: early in the which one, it was like it was like,

2249
02:07:05,560 --> 02:07:13,400
Speaker 1: I forget what it's called. What happened? Oh yeah? Is

2250
02:07:13,440 --> 02:07:18,360
Speaker 1: that not your favorite year your career? Nah? No? Who

2251
02:07:18,480 --> 02:07:22,840
Speaker 1: was it? Say? Oh too? Probably? Oh boy? Because I

2252
02:07:22,880 --> 02:07:25,640
Speaker 1: got all my niggers on, you know what I'm saying,

2253
02:07:25,880 --> 02:07:29,200
Speaker 1: Like everybody had a deal. Like I love your career,

2254
02:07:29,200 --> 02:07:34,320
Speaker 1: and I know because I feel like you had horse

2255
02:07:34,400 --> 02:07:38,680
Speaker 1: and Carriage when I had Super Thub. I feel like

2256
02:07:39,800 --> 02:07:43,760
Speaker 1: I had grimed me when you had I forget what else?

2257
02:07:44,080 --> 02:07:51,560
Speaker 1: Like everything and oh boy, and I had Homeboy and

2258
02:07:51,640 --> 02:07:54,120
Speaker 1: I felt that was so great. Yeah, you know we

2259
02:07:54,200 --> 02:07:57,800
Speaker 1: didn't pay the full tour, remember, yeah, absolutely, but like

2260
02:07:57,920 --> 02:08:00,400
Speaker 1: probably oh three, Like just being able to have all

2261
02:08:00,480 --> 02:08:02,680
Speaker 1: my niggas or one with a deal, whether they had

2262
02:08:02,680 --> 02:08:05,080
Speaker 1: an album out the time or anything like that, it

2263
02:08:05,200 --> 02:08:08,320
Speaker 1: was just a that's like a it was some bucket

2264
02:08:08,360 --> 02:08:10,880
Speaker 1: ship list to get off me, to get make sure

2265
02:08:12,160 --> 02:08:14,440
Speaker 1: Jim out of deal, jewels had to deal like it

2266
02:08:14,600 --> 02:08:18,080
Speaker 1: was a sign. Freaky Zeke went to jail, and when

2267
02:08:18,200 --> 02:08:20,760
Speaker 1: he went to jail, when he came over from jail.

2268
02:08:21,440 --> 02:08:23,680
Speaker 1: It was dope to that car ready for him and

2269
02:08:24,280 --> 02:08:27,120
Speaker 1: a crib and corndo and all that ship ready in cash,

2270
02:08:27,200 --> 02:08:29,360
Speaker 1: and then he eventually ended up getting Then I get

2271
02:08:29,480 --> 02:08:31,200
Speaker 1: when he came from jail, I got him a deal

2272
02:08:31,800 --> 02:08:34,440
Speaker 1: and asylum. You know what I'm saying. But everything like

2273
02:08:35,280 --> 02:08:37,440
Speaker 1: those are my favorite years when I was able to

2274
02:08:37,520 --> 02:08:39,440
Speaker 1: help the crew out. And this is after a board

2275
02:08:39,560 --> 02:08:42,120
Speaker 1: is old three oh four he said, oh, three oh three.

2276
02:08:42,160 --> 02:08:44,520
Speaker 1: Ye is when the dip mouth came out. Jus came

2277
02:08:44,560 --> 02:08:47,000
Speaker 1: out three or oh four, So I felt gil Zeke

2278
02:08:47,120 --> 02:08:48,920
Speaker 1: was in jail. He came out like, oh seven, oh

2279
02:08:49,680 --> 02:08:53,760
Speaker 1: got MC deal O eight And what a year whenever

2280
02:08:53,800 --> 02:08:55,680
Speaker 1: he came out and got him a deal like I

2281
02:08:55,840 --> 02:08:59,440
Speaker 1: like that ship two days later. Yeah, I remember I

2282
02:08:59,520 --> 02:09:03,880
Speaker 1: got two our question for you. But I remember me

2283
02:09:04,200 --> 02:09:06,640
Speaker 1: looking at your face at one point when Cam and

2284
02:09:06,720 --> 02:09:10,640
Speaker 1: Jewels was Camon and Jim wasn't seeing uh and me

2285
02:09:10,800 --> 02:09:12,440
Speaker 1: just looking at your face. I forget what it was

2286
02:09:12,600 --> 02:09:15,600
Speaker 1: through internet was through the internet, and I remember like

2287
02:09:15,840 --> 02:09:18,160
Speaker 1: that might have been one of the most stressed times.

2288
02:09:18,240 --> 02:09:22,160
Speaker 1: You're like it was, It wasn't. At first. I couldn't

2289
02:09:22,400 --> 02:09:25,960
Speaker 1: understand it because we we've been tight before. Wrap like

2290
02:09:26,080 --> 02:09:30,240
Speaker 1: this is a cam by sandwich came about Sai and

2291
02:09:30,640 --> 02:09:32,960
Speaker 1: that was it came had the sandwich. So we were

2292
02:09:33,080 --> 02:09:35,560
Speaker 1: getting to try to get a piece. Cam was spit

2293
02:09:35,680 --> 02:09:38,120
Speaker 1: on the sandwich. You know what I'm saying. It was

2294
02:09:38,160 --> 02:09:45,400
Speaker 1: like and it didn't matter. You know what I'm saying,

2295
02:09:45,840 --> 02:09:47,160
Speaker 1: give us a piece. And he got that way. So

2296
02:09:47,440 --> 02:09:50,400
Speaker 1: that's how close we want so far get out of jam.

2297
02:09:50,560 --> 02:09:53,080
Speaker 1: Like then you hear this person did this and that

2298
02:09:53,240 --> 02:09:56,240
Speaker 1: person to that. But I just couldn't gather what was

2299
02:09:56,320 --> 02:09:58,480
Speaker 1: going on because I'm like, ayes, so what he did

2300
02:09:58,560 --> 02:10:01,440
Speaker 1: this or whatever whatever they point was of, not what

2301
02:10:01,760 --> 02:10:04,560
Speaker 1: in the act with each other. I couldn't believe it.

2302
02:10:04,640 --> 02:10:07,360
Speaker 1: But then I've seen it's going on. I think I

2303
02:10:07,520 --> 02:10:08,680
Speaker 1: was on. I don't know if I was on that

2304
02:10:08,840 --> 02:10:13,040
Speaker 1: I went somewhere with Jim and I'm thinking I'm rectif

2305
02:10:13,200 --> 02:10:15,280
Speaker 1: I wanted to rectify the situation because these things I

2306
02:10:15,400 --> 02:10:20,040
Speaker 1: loved you, like I'm sorry to cut you off, but

2307
02:10:20,120 --> 02:10:21,920
Speaker 1: I want to pick you up. I can tell her

2308
02:10:22,160 --> 02:10:25,120
Speaker 1: everybody you would have heard this, everybody. In my opinion,

2309
02:10:25,160 --> 02:10:26,880
Speaker 1: I could be wrong. You look at me and say, no, no,

2310
02:10:27,480 --> 02:10:29,040
Speaker 1: I know these things is gonna get it back together

2311
02:10:29,360 --> 02:10:31,560
Speaker 1: or you could be like but at one point it

2312
02:10:31,720 --> 02:10:35,440
Speaker 1: really seemed like ugly. It really seems okay because I

2313
02:10:35,560 --> 02:10:37,200
Speaker 1: love both of them, you know what I'm saying, like

2314
02:10:37,440 --> 02:10:39,600
Speaker 1: like hands down, you know what I mean when they

2315
02:10:39,640 --> 02:10:41,320
Speaker 1: say what you bring me to tell you? But all that,

2316
02:10:41,520 --> 02:10:43,720
Speaker 1: like I put my soul out here, you know what

2317
02:10:43,760 --> 02:10:46,040
Speaker 1: I mean? It won would be a time if something's

2318
02:10:46,080 --> 02:10:49,040
Speaker 1: going on, I'm if it's over, it's over, you know

2319
02:10:49,080 --> 02:10:50,600
Speaker 1: what I mean. That's how it ran with you, and

2320
02:10:50,760 --> 02:10:54,120
Speaker 1: that's how I still because it was for y'all. It's

2321
02:10:54,160 --> 02:10:58,320
Speaker 1: more y'all, but the forefront is for y'all. Zeke Juel's

2322
02:11:00,280 --> 02:11:04,920
Speaker 1: m jem right. But then you got fast On, you

2323
02:11:05,080 --> 02:11:08,160
Speaker 1: got Tito my man food back in the days. Then

2324
02:11:08,160 --> 02:11:09,960
Speaker 1: you got a song we told my Tito trying to

2325
02:11:09,960 --> 02:11:14,080
Speaker 1: stab ship night. That was all. I love that, um

2326
02:11:14,560 --> 02:11:20,240
Speaker 1: um all these people so but you as like the artist,

2327
02:11:20,280 --> 02:11:23,320
Speaker 1: that wasn't the artist? How much pressure was that on

2328
02:11:23,440 --> 02:11:26,280
Speaker 1: the fans when the fans were seeing you? I really can.

2329
02:11:26,400 --> 02:11:28,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember this, but I wanted

2330
02:11:28,480 --> 02:11:31,960
Speaker 1: to be can. It was like, look, anybody can't do anything,

2331
02:11:32,400 --> 02:11:35,120
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So when Rocket Fuller was

2332
02:11:35,200 --> 02:11:38,560
Speaker 1: going on, he was like, look, just go every day,

2333
02:11:38,680 --> 02:11:40,840
Speaker 1: get up in there and go speak to them up

2334
02:11:40,840 --> 02:11:42,080
Speaker 1: in the cubic foods, you know what I mean. So

2335
02:11:42,360 --> 02:11:45,960
Speaker 1: every time if they finished a session six in the morning,

2336
02:11:46,280 --> 02:11:48,520
Speaker 1: I'm up there, Like you mentioned Sherry before, I'm up

2337
02:11:49,440 --> 02:11:52,480
Speaker 1: I mean every tube marketing promoting, just being a face

2338
02:11:53,040 --> 02:11:55,560
Speaker 1: if they wasn't there or I'll just be up in there.

2339
02:11:55,600 --> 02:11:58,720
Speaker 1: So that's I took that as what I needed to

2340
02:11:58,800 --> 02:12:00,320
Speaker 1: do at the time, you know what I'm saying. But

2341
02:12:00,400 --> 02:12:03,120
Speaker 1: if Kim asked me to do something, mama spit a

2342
02:12:03,280 --> 02:12:05,520
Speaker 1: verse of a hook I'm excuse me, more so a hooker, really,

2343
02:12:05,960 --> 02:12:08,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But there's a lot of

2344
02:12:08,200 --> 02:12:11,560
Speaker 1: underground ship that Food Freaky was doing, you know what

2345
02:12:11,640 --> 02:12:14,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I was keeping everything a lot. You were

2346
02:12:14,160 --> 02:12:17,480
Speaker 1: jumping on conference calls, on the street team conference calls too, Yeah,

2347
02:12:17,600 --> 02:12:19,920
Speaker 1: because I was doing the deaf Jam street Team. He

2348
02:12:20,400 --> 02:12:26,560
Speaker 1: actually you felt about I know what, let me answer

2349
02:12:26,560 --> 02:12:29,880
Speaker 1: the sum something because you saw that going to the

2350
02:12:30,000 --> 02:12:33,640
Speaker 1: car like we're gonna like, no know what I'm saying

2351
02:12:33,680 --> 02:12:36,720
Speaker 1: this Zeke me and Jim wasn't speaking Zeken do ship

2352
02:12:36,880 --> 02:12:39,120
Speaker 1: like be next to me and put Jim on the phone, like, yo,

2353
02:12:39,640 --> 02:12:44,440
Speaker 1: what me and Cape have the same situation. But sometimes

2354
02:12:44,440 --> 02:12:46,840
Speaker 1: when you were together with somebody that close, you're just

2355
02:12:46,880 --> 02:12:49,280
Speaker 1: gonna have a situation. It doesn't matter, It doesn't matter

2356
02:12:49,280 --> 02:12:52,520
Speaker 1: if we could both be right now. The answer Zeke

2357
02:12:52,640 --> 02:12:57,760
Speaker 1: for Zeke, Zeke was mad. You know, he's being politically

2358
02:12:57,840 --> 02:13:00,320
Speaker 1: correct the way you're doing and not mad one of

2359
02:13:00,440 --> 02:13:03,320
Speaker 1: us matter the situation, because he would be next to

2360
02:13:03,400 --> 02:13:06,240
Speaker 1: me or next to Jim and be like, Yo, my

2361
02:13:06,320 --> 02:13:07,480
Speaker 1: man want to talk to you, and I'll be like

2362
02:13:07,520 --> 02:13:09,520
Speaker 1: who this and then be Jim and we'll both like yeah,

2363
02:13:09,640 --> 02:13:11,640
Speaker 1: come on man, and this in the phone way like

2364
02:13:12,000 --> 02:13:13,720
Speaker 1: in eight times. So he was trying to fix the

2365
02:13:14,600 --> 02:13:17,440
Speaker 1: the problem from day from day one, from the very

2366
02:13:17,600 --> 02:13:20,200
Speaker 1: very beginning, he was trying to fix it. Whether I

2367
02:13:20,320 --> 02:13:22,360
Speaker 1: was ready to fix it or Jim was ready to

2368
02:13:22,440 --> 02:13:25,720
Speaker 1: fix it or not, he was always there trying to

2369
02:13:25,800 --> 02:13:28,560
Speaker 1: fix the problem. And like he was about to say earlier,

2370
02:13:29,480 --> 02:13:32,320
Speaker 1: because basically to me, what he wanted to tell you

2371
02:13:32,480 --> 02:13:34,160
Speaker 1: is that he wants his credit for all them Old

2372
02:13:34,240 --> 02:13:37,960
Speaker 1: Boys songs and hey Ma songs. Because he sat in

2373
02:13:38,040 --> 02:13:41,680
Speaker 1: Michael Kaiser office every day for three months and basically

2374
02:13:41,760 --> 02:13:44,640
Speaker 1: told Mike Kaiser, you leave when I want you to leave,

2375
02:13:44,800 --> 02:13:48,880
Speaker 1: or I'll be here tomorrow or whatever, and Old Boy

2376
02:13:48,920 --> 02:13:53,560
Speaker 1: and Hey Mom became eventually the number one spun records

2377
02:13:53,600 --> 02:13:56,520
Speaker 1: and definitely in history, whether it's BC Boys, Old Coo,

2378
02:13:56,640 --> 02:14:00,880
Speaker 1: J Three, Third Base, whoever you want, even Jay Z.

2379
02:14:01,160 --> 02:14:04,040
Speaker 1: At the time before Kanye started breaking the records, those

2380
02:14:04,080 --> 02:14:07,440
Speaker 1: records were the number one spunt records in definitam history.

2381
02:14:08,040 --> 02:14:11,720
Speaker 1: And being that, Zeke sat in Michael Kaiser's office every

2382
02:14:11,840 --> 02:14:14,400
Speaker 1: day at radio, and then when Haymond came out and

2383
02:14:14,440 --> 02:14:16,760
Speaker 1: crossed over, he sat in ken Lanes that's the Z

2384
02:14:16,880 --> 02:14:21,240
Speaker 1: one hundred stations, you know, every day for months, put

2385
02:14:21,280 --> 02:14:25,920
Speaker 1: in Prussia. Nice pressure that the records became the best

2386
02:14:25,960 --> 02:14:28,280
Speaker 1: records in de jam history. And I think he's sponsible

2387
02:14:28,280 --> 02:14:39,200
Speaker 1: for those now. I think that's what he wanted. I

2388
02:14:39,320 --> 02:14:41,000
Speaker 1: think he was trying to get out of here, like

2389
02:14:41,040 --> 02:14:43,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get this out before we wrapped this up

2390
02:14:43,160 --> 02:14:46,760
Speaker 1: and then let niggas know that these songs basically not

2391
02:14:46,880 --> 02:14:48,800
Speaker 1: saying they wasn't good music, but it was a little

2392
02:14:48,840 --> 02:14:54,800
Speaker 1: elbow grease hues. So I got I got one more question,

2393
02:14:54,840 --> 02:14:57,120
Speaker 1: and I got three more questions from my nephew, nephews

2394
02:14:59,720 --> 02:15:03,480
Speaker 1: when I'm back. Yeah that when when when? When when

2395
02:15:03,560 --> 02:15:06,880
Speaker 1: me and you were speaking and we wasn't one one communicated?

2396
02:15:06,920 --> 02:15:09,720
Speaker 1: My name was like no, just chill. That's how cam is.

2397
02:15:15,000 --> 02:15:20,440
Speaker 1: He's telling me now like that Camus fly like that.

2398
02:15:21,120 --> 02:15:22,840
Speaker 1: He just doesn't. I'm supposed to speak to certain people

2399
02:15:26,480 --> 02:15:32,440
Speaker 1: you've never met, but but but his I just want

2400
02:15:32,480 --> 02:15:35,120
Speaker 1: to get to this right Internet, we all got Twitter,

2401
02:15:35,200 --> 02:15:38,240
Speaker 1: we all got do you als get locked up? There's

2402
02:15:38,280 --> 02:15:41,720
Speaker 1: this song to come out. What you was? Right? People

2403
02:15:41,720 --> 02:15:44,120
Speaker 1: are pointing to finger saying, man, they got to be

2404
02:15:44,240 --> 02:15:47,840
Speaker 1: talking about you. Well all right, I mean can't they

2405
02:15:47,920 --> 02:15:50,520
Speaker 1: gotta be talking about campus. Just be clear you just

2406
02:15:50,560 --> 02:15:53,080
Speaker 1: said that to me earlier. Actually anything So yeah, absolutely

2407
02:15:54,200 --> 02:15:59,400
Speaker 1: definitely this song comes out. I'm a journalist. Now you

2408
02:15:59,480 --> 02:16:01,560
Speaker 1: don't even know me. This is it first we've knowing

2409
02:16:01,640 --> 02:16:04,520
Speaker 1: me as a journalist, Like you know, these people are

2410
02:16:04,560 --> 02:16:08,640
Speaker 1: hearing me, and that's saying, look, no meows, it's going

2411
02:16:08,760 --> 02:16:14,400
Speaker 1: to slide. I'm not a gossip reporter. Don't report it

2412
02:16:14,520 --> 02:16:17,920
Speaker 1: or nothing, but being at you here, I have to

2413
02:16:18,000 --> 02:16:22,320
Speaker 1: ask that question. Um, this is record that comes out

2414
02:16:22,680 --> 02:16:26,280
Speaker 1: with Joel's is in jail or prior, and it seems

2415
02:16:26,320 --> 02:16:28,080
Speaker 1: like he's coming at you. Did you hear this record?

2416
02:16:28,120 --> 02:16:32,120
Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm talking about? So what happened

2417
02:16:32,120 --> 02:16:36,160
Speaker 1: in that situation, Well, Joel's was in jail when the record. Basically,

2418
02:16:37,560 --> 02:16:40,320
Speaker 1: I guess his girlfriend and his brother put the record

2419
02:16:40,360 --> 02:16:42,760
Speaker 1: Outum the album and he put out a mixtape by

2420
02:16:42,760 --> 02:16:46,280
Speaker 1: album or someone. He's in jail and so basically, um,

2421
02:16:46,760 --> 02:16:50,360
Speaker 1: I hear the record, sounds like it's about me. This

2422
02:16:50,520 --> 02:16:53,600
Speaker 1: to me, but I'm not gonna I'm not dissing Jim

2423
02:16:53,680 --> 02:16:56,879
Speaker 1: with duels. I'm just not dissing them on the record.

2424
02:16:57,000 --> 02:16:59,560
Speaker 1: So talking about them public publicly or whatever. If y'are

2425
02:16:59,600 --> 02:17:01,120
Speaker 1: mad at me, call I'm just not ever going to

2426
02:17:01,240 --> 02:17:05,080
Speaker 1: do that. But his girl called me, and uh, she

2427
02:17:05,280 --> 02:17:08,800
Speaker 1: explained to me, and I end up speaking to Jewels,

2428
02:17:08,840 --> 02:17:12,240
Speaker 1: and Jewels said that basically it's supposed to be too

2429
02:17:13,879 --> 02:17:16,080
Speaker 1: two sides of it. So it's when me and him

2430
02:17:16,160 --> 02:17:20,360
Speaker 1: wasn't speaking, it was that was his point of view,

2431
02:17:21,320 --> 02:17:24,480
Speaker 1: and he said he wrote my point of view, but

2432
02:17:24,560 --> 02:17:27,440
Speaker 1: he said instead of me him saying how I felt,

2433
02:17:27,520 --> 02:17:32,160
Speaker 1: he wanted me to write how he felt when Niggas

2434
02:17:32,200 --> 02:17:37,000
Speaker 1: wasn't speaking in jail. No, he had songs in his computer,

2435
02:17:37,160 --> 02:17:38,840
Speaker 1: and you know they're making no music in jail. I

2436
02:17:38,879 --> 02:17:41,360
Speaker 1: guess you got a Jewell got two million songs in computer.

2437
02:17:41,400 --> 02:17:44,920
Speaker 1: I don't know white for them out. So basically, that

2438
02:17:45,120 --> 02:17:48,520
Speaker 1: particular song he was saying it wasn't supposed to This

2439
02:17:48,560 --> 02:17:50,400
Speaker 1: is what he said that it was supposed to go

2440
02:17:50,400 --> 02:17:54,480
Speaker 1: on this album because he wanted me to do a

2441
02:17:54,680 --> 02:17:57,080
Speaker 1: verse or how he felt during that era when he

2442
02:17:57,240 --> 02:17:59,040
Speaker 1: was mad at me or I was mad at him

2443
02:17:59,120 --> 02:18:01,680
Speaker 1: or whatever, and I told him, you know this one

2444
02:18:01,760 --> 02:18:04,440
Speaker 1: y'all jail. We had this conversation and I was like, yeah,

2445
02:18:04,480 --> 02:18:07,600
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that because just confusing the fans.

2446
02:18:07,680 --> 02:18:09,360
Speaker 1: They don't know if this is today, they don't know

2447
02:18:09,360 --> 02:18:11,880
Speaker 1: if this is, oh, this is I don't really get it.

2448
02:18:12,080 --> 02:18:14,760
Speaker 1: But I just did the concept. It would have been

2449
02:18:14,800 --> 02:18:17,160
Speaker 1: dope if it was a few years ago. But I

2450
02:18:17,240 --> 02:18:19,600
Speaker 1: just yeah, but I just didn't feel it as a

2451
02:18:19,600 --> 02:18:21,680
Speaker 1: purpose for that. But that's what he told me. Okay,

2452
02:18:23,120 --> 02:18:26,119
Speaker 1: cool too. I just spoke to her yesterday, so it's beautiful.

2453
02:18:26,200 --> 02:18:28,280
Speaker 1: It's beautiful. So let me get to one of my

2454
02:18:28,400 --> 02:18:32,080
Speaker 1: nephews questions. He wants to know when you look at

2455
02:18:32,120 --> 02:18:37,520
Speaker 1: the free bands, change I know as I can. Tom.

2456
02:18:45,360 --> 02:18:48,320
Speaker 1: You know you told me. You know, he told me,

2457
02:18:48,440 --> 02:18:51,040
Speaker 1: said I couldn't afford to change, and I want to

2458
02:18:51,080 --> 02:18:53,400
Speaker 1: be dip set so bad that he said it took

2459
02:18:53,440 --> 02:18:57,720
Speaker 1: me three days to soft the eagle that's on the

2460
02:18:57,760 --> 02:19:03,560
Speaker 1: basketball truphies, but sorted for three days and bought a

2461
02:19:03,640 --> 02:19:13,480
Speaker 1: little route. You think about this respect that. Yeah, he's

2462
02:19:13,480 --> 02:19:16,480
Speaker 1: funked up. He's gonna he's gonna be mad. But so

2463
02:19:16,680 --> 02:19:20,920
Speaker 1: he's like, yo, free bands and he actually sent me

2464
02:19:20,959 --> 02:19:25,800
Speaker 1: a picture he ain't playing. Look he liked asked, y'all,

2465
02:19:25,959 --> 02:19:29,560
Speaker 1: what do you feel about free bands? Change? I mean,

2466
02:19:29,600 --> 02:19:32,200
Speaker 1: it's so good to be honest with you, my man,

2467
02:19:32,760 --> 02:19:35,000
Speaker 1: chubby baby, that's our family. You know what I'm saying

2468
02:19:35,800 --> 02:19:45,760
Speaker 1: right back, cam ain fucking with you, he laught, man, right, both,

2469
02:19:45,920 --> 02:19:48,280
Speaker 1: Let's get with my nigga. How you doing your right,

2470
02:19:50,240 --> 02:19:54,000
Speaker 1: my nigger? That's something being good to see you, man.

2471
02:19:55,600 --> 02:19:57,880
Speaker 1: So we don't know. We're on your questions right now,

2472
02:19:58,000 --> 02:20:01,240
Speaker 1: we're on the free bands. Do we feel like future?

2473
02:20:02,400 --> 02:20:04,920
Speaker 1: I was to say that, but I would I would

2474
02:20:05,280 --> 02:20:08,360
Speaker 1: know how you feel about the future. Um, you know,

2475
02:20:08,920 --> 02:20:12,720
Speaker 1: he basically took the eagle bird and put mgb all

2476
02:20:12,760 --> 02:20:17,200
Speaker 1: that and now that stage change, but that original change. Yeah, okay,

2477
02:20:17,280 --> 02:20:19,240
Speaker 1: all right, hold on spirit, we're gonna leave right there.

2478
02:20:19,720 --> 02:20:21,959
Speaker 1: We feel about that camp, I don't feel the way

2479
02:20:22,000 --> 02:20:25,840
Speaker 1: I mean like with Diplomats and Woo thing. I think

2480
02:20:25,879 --> 02:20:28,680
Speaker 1: those are the best logos. That's not gonna go nowhere.

2481
02:20:29,280 --> 02:20:32,000
Speaker 1: And Futures Family, that's you know, that's my guy. Plus

2482
02:20:32,160 --> 02:20:38,240
Speaker 1: he was dealing with chubby Baby, Chubby Baby from the Bronx.

2483
02:20:38,320 --> 02:20:41,240
Speaker 1: But we met in Ohio, me and us Ohio. That's

2484
02:20:41,240 --> 02:20:43,720
Speaker 1: where we met at and uh, you know he's been

2485
02:20:43,720 --> 02:20:45,400
Speaker 1: in Atlanta working for Future and a whole bunch of

2486
02:20:45,400 --> 02:20:49,160
Speaker 1: other niggers. So he's the future uh a while. When

2487
02:20:49,200 --> 02:20:50,959
Speaker 1: that logo came out, he called and told me about

2488
02:20:50,959 --> 02:20:53,520
Speaker 1: it before it happened, So it was all good with me.

2489
02:20:53,760 --> 02:20:58,520
Speaker 1: Like I said, Future Family is all good. God damn it. Yeah,

2490
02:20:58,560 --> 02:21:00,360
Speaker 1: I got all your other questions, y'all. I al would

2491
02:21:00,360 --> 02:21:03,240
Speaker 1: have used you all your other questions. I'm looking at

2492
02:21:03,280 --> 02:21:05,680
Speaker 1: I'm I'm trying to be like a good journalist, so

2493
02:21:05,720 --> 02:21:07,840
Speaker 1: I'm looking at all your other questions. Yeah, I already

2494
02:21:07,840 --> 02:21:09,959
Speaker 1: are we already good that this is a great interview.

2495
02:21:10,320 --> 02:21:12,520
Speaker 1: And he told me he didn't trust me this is crazy.

2496
02:21:14,760 --> 02:21:20,120
Speaker 1: No reason told you told me? Last really told me?

2497
02:21:20,400 --> 02:21:41,640
Speaker 1: Last kills the man always trust I bad the best

2498
02:21:41,680 --> 02:21:51,760
Speaker 1: thing in the world. I make a piece. Oh yeah,

2499
02:21:52,879 --> 02:21:54,600
Speaker 1: I'll be gonna hit you back. We're gonna hit you back.

2500
02:21:59,600 --> 02:22:04,880
Speaker 1: Do not not listen? Listen listen when I got a shot?

2501
02:22:04,920 --> 02:22:07,280
Speaker 1: How my shot magically appear. Let's take another shot for

2502
02:22:07,360 --> 02:22:13,680
Speaker 1: Killer Killer, motherfucking camp A movie getting the horse horsepower point. Yeah,

2503
02:22:14,000 --> 02:22:20,440
Speaker 1: all right, y'all take We need to understand again, we're

2504
02:22:20,440 --> 02:22:23,640
Speaker 1: taking this shot for him. We're taking this shot for horsepower.

2505
02:22:24,080 --> 02:22:33,480
Speaker 1: Why not let me look at Thanks for having me man,

2506
02:22:33,520 --> 02:22:38,920
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Listen to me camp Um. I know

2507
02:22:39,000 --> 02:22:40,800
Speaker 1: I said this to you kind of like off the air,

2508
02:22:41,720 --> 02:22:47,760
Speaker 1: but you're one of my most favorite people in the world.

2509
02:22:48,840 --> 02:22:52,520
Speaker 1: Our relationship in the beginning, what happened was I'm gonna

2510
02:22:52,520 --> 02:22:57,640
Speaker 1: blame that on our success because why we didn't keep going.

2511
02:22:58,200 --> 02:23:01,600
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I feel like without you know,

2512
02:23:01,720 --> 02:23:05,440
Speaker 1: over bigging us up. Maybe I'm over bigging me up.

2513
02:23:06,760 --> 02:23:08,880
Speaker 1: I feel like we were like j and NAS, like

2514
02:23:09,000 --> 02:23:12,760
Speaker 1: we dealt with that kind of situation where you were

2515
02:23:12,959 --> 02:23:15,560
Speaker 1: super a man then I was super a man here

2516
02:23:17,080 --> 02:23:21,280
Speaker 1: and but we could have done some well marketable ship

2517
02:23:22,000 --> 02:23:25,000
Speaker 1: and still can and still can. And I just want

2518
02:23:25,000 --> 02:23:26,840
Speaker 1: to tell you how much I appreciate you from then,

2519
02:23:29,240 --> 02:23:33,160
Speaker 1: how much I appreciate you now, how much I appreciate

2520
02:23:33,280 --> 02:23:36,920
Speaker 1: y'all because I got to see y'all like I got

2521
02:23:37,000 --> 02:23:38,160
Speaker 1: to see I don't want to say I got to

2522
02:23:38,160 --> 02:23:40,320
Speaker 1: see you at the bottom, but I got to see

2523
02:23:40,400 --> 02:23:42,840
Speaker 1: y'all coming up likewise, and I got to see you

2524
02:23:42,959 --> 02:23:45,480
Speaker 1: at the top. And I've always been propped, So just

2525
02:23:45,560 --> 02:23:48,480
Speaker 1: in case you don't know that, always been proud of.

2526
02:23:49,240 --> 02:23:51,440
Speaker 1: One thing about this right now is like this bro

2527
02:23:51,600 --> 02:23:53,400
Speaker 1: hustling is gonna hustle and we're gonna get the back.

2528
02:23:53,400 --> 02:23:55,400
Speaker 1: And that's one thing I respected by everybody. Of course

2529
02:23:55,440 --> 02:23:59,600
Speaker 1: our friendship. But to see, like you said I mentioned

2530
02:23:59,720 --> 02:24:02,200
Speaker 1: ninety seven, h ninety six, whatever year, is to see

2531
02:24:02,240 --> 02:24:04,040
Speaker 1: that you're still doing this, you see it, you still

2532
02:24:04,080 --> 02:24:06,920
Speaker 1: look great, pause that you still get money. I respect

2533
02:24:07,000 --> 02:24:10,080
Speaker 1: that more than anything else. Of course, I friendship, But

2534
02:24:10,120 --> 02:24:12,720
Speaker 1: I don't like nigger. You know what. I hate to

2535
02:24:12,760 --> 02:24:19,720
Speaker 1: hang out. First, Yeah, I love you had everything. I

2536
02:24:20,000 --> 02:24:22,080
Speaker 1: know what. I don't like what people say you'd be like, yo,

2537
02:24:22,160 --> 02:24:24,520
Speaker 1: how you doing, and somebody be like Yeah, I'm just maintaining.

2538
02:24:24,560 --> 02:24:26,400
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't want to hear you maintain it,

2539
02:24:26,760 --> 02:24:29,360
Speaker 1: Like I'm not really doing that. Maintaining ship And you

2540
02:24:29,400 --> 02:24:33,320
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, that's another word that's like it

2541
02:24:33,480 --> 02:24:37,400
Speaker 1: wants depressing. How you doing maintaining? Yeah, my nigger, you

2542
02:24:37,520 --> 02:24:43,240
Speaker 1: just like when what I maintaining ship? Kevin Laos told

2543
02:24:43,280 --> 02:24:45,000
Speaker 1: me that and I ran with that for like fifteen

2544
02:24:45,040 --> 02:24:48,160
Speaker 1: twe years because you just go if you're just maintaining,

2545
02:24:48,360 --> 02:24:52,040
Speaker 1: you're satisfied with just getting by, And I'm not happy

2546
02:24:52,160 --> 02:24:55,080
Speaker 1: with just getting by, Like I got habits that I

2547
02:24:55,080 --> 02:24:57,600
Speaker 1: don't want to support. I want to keep doing. You

2548
02:24:57,640 --> 02:24:59,840
Speaker 1: get what I'm saying. So to say that, I'm saying

2549
02:24:59,879 --> 02:25:01,520
Speaker 1: that to say this, to see that you're still doing

2550
02:25:01,600 --> 02:25:04,640
Speaker 1: your shows, your second and you still could do songs

2551
02:25:04,680 --> 02:25:07,640
Speaker 1: if you want. It's about a few people, you know

2552
02:25:07,720 --> 02:25:16,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But let's do it. Let's get the balls. Listen. No,

2553
02:25:17,120 --> 02:25:22,480
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I always had this Independent, major

2554
02:25:22,600 --> 02:25:27,920
Speaker 1: debate debate when it comes to the Independent. The way Cam,

2555
02:25:28,440 --> 02:25:32,080
Speaker 1: Jim and Dip said, did the Independent is different for

2556
02:25:32,320 --> 02:25:37,000
Speaker 1: New York based at that time, It's not difference. No,

2557
02:25:37,320 --> 02:25:39,080
Speaker 1: they did it great as far as New York. But

2558
02:25:39,120 --> 02:25:41,080
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say is only independent base that

2559
02:25:41,240 --> 02:25:44,520
Speaker 1: was working was people from the South, people from Richmond, California.

2560
02:25:45,120 --> 02:25:46,480
Speaker 1: It wasn't working for them, you know what I'm saying

2561
02:25:46,520 --> 02:25:50,039
Speaker 1: that they wasn't once that it worked for in New

2562
02:25:50,120 --> 02:25:55,320
Speaker 1: York like it works. If what I'm saying about Cots wasn't,

2563
02:25:56,440 --> 02:26:00,800
Speaker 1: it wasn't a lie. Most other people other than we're

2564
02:26:00,840 --> 02:26:04,199
Speaker 1: going there and die. They're the only ones getting money.

2565
02:26:04,240 --> 02:26:06,120
Speaker 1: So that I could see it, fifty is coming from

2566
02:26:06,200 --> 02:26:11,200
Speaker 1: like here talking about you. So um, that's That's what

2567
02:26:11,240 --> 02:26:14,039
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. But the way they did it independent,

2568
02:26:14,160 --> 02:26:16,480
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta salute that. I gotta sloop that

2569
02:26:16,520 --> 02:26:18,520
Speaker 1: I didn't see that not from New York. We other

2570
02:26:18,560 --> 02:26:22,959
Speaker 1: independent other than Rocket Fellow. There was no other independent people.

2571
02:26:23,160 --> 02:26:28,039
Speaker 1: Think about it Camp. No, they weren't independent. They were

2572
02:26:28,160 --> 02:26:33,400
Speaker 1: universe VERSU from the beginning because once DMX side that

2573
02:26:33,600 --> 02:26:38,880
Speaker 1: was definitely have university. The Locks were in the school. No,

2574
02:26:39,040 --> 02:26:40,960
Speaker 1: they were bad boy, yeah, and then they went then

2575
02:26:41,000 --> 02:26:45,720
Speaker 1: they moved over. So YEAHLL were the first independent of

2576
02:26:46,080 --> 02:26:49,520
Speaker 1: the independent company. People were independent with the major I

2577
02:26:49,640 --> 02:26:55,200
Speaker 1: just thought you mad independent period you know, independent, independent, independent,

2578
02:26:55,400 --> 02:26:59,920
Speaker 1: fucking with the independent, these other people with independent made

2579
02:27:00,600 --> 02:27:05,360
Speaker 1: That's that's right. Yeah, depending on the deal though, depending

2580
02:27:05,400 --> 02:27:09,040
Speaker 1: on the deal you have is how it is. If

2581
02:27:09,080 --> 02:27:11,640
Speaker 1: you own your masters, if you own your ship, but

2582
02:27:11,800 --> 02:27:15,120
Speaker 1: the end you can't own your masters. The major you can,

2583
02:27:15,680 --> 02:27:22,240
Speaker 1: you can the deal. It depends on the deal. Puff

2584
02:27:22,320 --> 02:27:25,760
Speaker 1: got his master's back. Now, eventually, if you work the system,

2585
02:27:25,840 --> 02:27:27,520
Speaker 1: you might get it. I'm in the process of that

2586
02:27:27,680 --> 02:27:30,119
Speaker 1: right now. Like I just got my master's back. Masters

2587
02:27:30,360 --> 02:27:33,600
Speaker 1: you want own in death Jam you don't. You don't want,

2588
02:27:33,640 --> 02:27:37,000
Speaker 1: you don't want the epic I'm working. They got Sony too.

2589
02:27:37,160 --> 02:27:39,560
Speaker 1: But so what's going on? Is this? So in case

2590
02:27:39,600 --> 02:27:43,840
Speaker 1: you ain't know, it's the thing I just found out

2591
02:27:43,879 --> 02:27:50,280
Speaker 1: about May ten years seven. Okay, you could go. You

2592
02:27:50,360 --> 02:27:54,680
Speaker 1: can re record your records right now, eight year statue

2593
02:27:54,760 --> 02:27:59,000
Speaker 1: limitation on your records. It's just like music. Yes, it's

2594
02:27:59,040 --> 02:28:02,120
Speaker 1: just a criminals. I just chart it out. So, so,

2595
02:28:02,360 --> 02:28:07,320
Speaker 1: for instance, who gets your super Doug ship forever? Well,

2596
02:28:07,520 --> 02:28:11,920
Speaker 1: right now it's Tommy. I forget it. Let's just use

2597
02:28:11,959 --> 02:28:14,280
Speaker 1: a random example. Let's just say I want to do

2598
02:28:14,400 --> 02:28:16,959
Speaker 1: oh boy over, I clear the sample everything I don't

2599
02:28:16,959 --> 02:28:20,560
Speaker 1: record the record right now, put out on streaming service

2600
02:28:20,640 --> 02:28:22,440
Speaker 1: and tells don't go they definitely on to get it

2601
02:28:22,480 --> 02:28:25,360
Speaker 1: get I go, get it to me right now, my bread,

2602
02:28:25,600 --> 02:28:30,080
Speaker 1: you record, got to record your everything, but this is

2603
02:28:30,120 --> 02:28:32,360
Speaker 1: the new version. Yeah, but you don't have to. You

2604
02:28:32,400 --> 02:28:33,960
Speaker 1: can say because people don't want to hear what they

2605
02:28:34,000 --> 02:28:36,040
Speaker 1: want to hear, you can record the exact same song

2606
02:28:36,200 --> 02:28:41,240
Speaker 1: you did today and put it out streaming because statue

2607
02:28:41,280 --> 02:28:44,000
Speaker 1: limitation on the on the music that how long they

2608
02:28:44,040 --> 02:28:46,480
Speaker 1: can actually own your ship and we don't. We don't

2609
02:28:46,520 --> 02:28:50,840
Speaker 1: be knowing ship like this right now. Yeah, well tell

2610
02:28:50,879 --> 02:28:57,160
Speaker 1: me no. I'm just telling you. So you could go

2611
02:28:57,280 --> 02:29:00,920
Speaker 1: and record everything over that you want to Yeah, seven,

2612
02:29:01,120 --> 02:29:02,920
Speaker 1: seven or eight. My Lloyder, me and my lawyer just

2613
02:29:03,000 --> 02:29:04,920
Speaker 1: went through this last week because I'm like, I want

2614
02:29:04,920 --> 02:29:11,880
Speaker 1: to go seven or yeah. Good, we could go do

2615
02:29:12,000 --> 02:29:15,120
Speaker 1: three fifty seven over any record. I want to do

2616
02:29:15,280 --> 02:29:20,720
Speaker 1: this over eight years over superdu is good. You go

2617
02:29:21,720 --> 02:29:27,080
Speaker 1: to make a little bit get checks right, you know

2618
02:29:27,160 --> 02:29:30,200
Speaker 1: that's an athorage a little nice. I like it, man,

2619
02:29:30,280 --> 02:29:35,760
Speaker 1: go ahead, thay much. But that's different publishing. Ye, that

2620
02:29:37,360 --> 02:29:42,440
Speaker 1: that's all I'm publishing. I don't I don't own. That's

2621
02:29:42,720 --> 02:29:45,280
Speaker 1: fucking genius. I had had no idea. Yeah, but I

2622
02:29:45,400 --> 02:29:48,120
Speaker 1: own my masters from Warner Brothers. All the stuff that

2623
02:29:48,200 --> 02:29:51,960
Speaker 1: I did when I left, defin want to publish it. No,

2624
02:29:52,160 --> 02:29:55,840
Speaker 1: I was on a Sylum, but it was through uh yeah,

2625
02:29:55,920 --> 02:29:58,959
Speaker 1: exactly so. But my deal I hadded like seven years

2626
02:29:58,959 --> 02:30:01,000
Speaker 1: statue of lemons say and on that for in the deal.

2627
02:30:01,120 --> 02:30:03,760
Speaker 1: So top mask was Joey I. E. They gave you

2628
02:30:03,800 --> 02:30:05,760
Speaker 1: back all my masters, So I got all my masters

2629
02:30:05,840 --> 02:30:07,840
Speaker 1: from there. So this is in the deals when you

2630
02:30:07,959 --> 02:30:10,520
Speaker 1: sign them, it says it's somewhere in there. On that

2631
02:30:10,680 --> 02:30:13,520
Speaker 1: particular deal with Tom Muskus and Joey I, I don't

2632
02:30:13,520 --> 02:30:15,640
Speaker 1: think they ever had a vision of standing there too long,

2633
02:30:15,720 --> 02:30:18,160
Speaker 1: so they wanted to give all this back they shipped.

2634
02:30:18,520 --> 02:30:21,480
Speaker 1: So basically after seven years I got my ship back.

2635
02:30:21,520 --> 02:30:22,920
Speaker 1: I just got it back for like the last three

2636
02:30:23,000 --> 02:30:25,520
Speaker 1: or four years. So like all the ship killing season

2637
02:30:25,720 --> 02:30:28,440
Speaker 1: and the album, the movie, etcetera. Ey, thinking that I

2638
02:30:28,560 --> 02:30:31,480
Speaker 1: did on a Sylum, I owned them. The money is

2639
02:30:31,480 --> 02:30:34,200
Speaker 1: a death chair. That's saying that ain't money there. But

2640
02:30:34,360 --> 02:30:37,480
Speaker 1: that's the catalog catalog. But I could go if I

2641
02:30:37,560 --> 02:30:39,760
Speaker 1: want to put the time in, I go record the

2642
02:30:39,800 --> 02:30:42,680
Speaker 1: whole album everything we did it depth him over and

2643
02:30:42,840 --> 02:30:46,200
Speaker 1: still my traffic this way to go get it. It's

2644
02:30:46,200 --> 02:30:49,160
Speaker 1: a lot of work. That's why. That's why the question

2645
02:30:49,240 --> 02:30:52,120
Speaker 1: he acts is like you could go to label right

2646
02:30:52,160 --> 02:30:53,760
Speaker 1: and be like, yo, it's up the masses. You can

2647
02:30:53,800 --> 02:30:57,720
Speaker 1: give me. At least I could just go record the

2648
02:30:57,800 --> 02:31:00,800
Speaker 1: ship over and y'all don't get nothing, or y'all get

2649
02:31:00,800 --> 02:31:03,240
Speaker 1: whatever I stuff on my Instagram ca now social media

2650
02:31:03,360 --> 02:31:07,920
Speaker 1: you can drop. That's the process of it. You have

2651
02:31:08,080 --> 02:31:10,400
Speaker 1: to still get the clearance. Some people don't want to

2652
02:31:10,440 --> 02:31:13,720
Speaker 1: go do that headache having to pay the producer. You know,

2653
02:31:13,879 --> 02:31:16,360
Speaker 1: if it's a sample in it or whatever, you have

2654
02:31:16,400 --> 02:31:19,960
Speaker 1: to do it all over again. It's still the same process,

2655
02:31:20,200 --> 02:31:23,640
Speaker 1: but you could own it. It will be yours. Yeah, exactly,

2656
02:31:24,560 --> 02:31:28,480
Speaker 1: hard crazy man. Do the whole worri for the over

2657
02:31:29,320 --> 02:31:34,440
Speaker 1: tragical bone down right. Now you've got some much some

2658
02:31:34,640 --> 02:31:37,080
Speaker 1: mean you got. You got niggas I funk with, like

2659
02:31:37,400 --> 02:31:40,720
Speaker 1: of course I funk with my nigga Johnny sitson Cinematic

2660
02:31:40,879 --> 02:31:46,000
Speaker 1: and and my nigga Gazia Empire. But you know, basically

2661
02:31:46,120 --> 02:31:48,080
Speaker 1: what they do is pay to git you on the

2662
02:31:48,200 --> 02:31:52,520
Speaker 1: top streaming services. Well so Spotify. What does it Spotify

2663
02:31:52,760 --> 02:31:57,199
Speaker 1: um wrap caveat, you know, the top playlists to play

2664
02:31:57,280 --> 02:32:00,920
Speaker 1: top playlists or whatever. But that's if you want to

2665
02:32:00,959 --> 02:32:04,200
Speaker 1: go that route to give them, which I do. I

2666
02:32:04,280 --> 02:32:09,000
Speaker 1: funk with them, but as cinematic, both of them. More

2667
02:32:09,120 --> 02:32:11,800
Speaker 1: with Cinematic the Empire, but I do business with Empire too.

2668
02:32:12,320 --> 02:32:15,040
Speaker 1: But the point being is you can go fucking get

2669
02:32:15,120 --> 02:32:18,440
Speaker 1: the distroct Kids account or a tune Core account right now,

2670
02:32:19,240 --> 02:32:21,640
Speaker 1: upload your music and that should be in your pocket

2671
02:32:22,120 --> 02:32:25,000
Speaker 1: thirty days, and then they come every thirty days straight

2672
02:32:25,040 --> 02:32:27,200
Speaker 1: to your pocket. So right now, that's what I tell

2673
02:32:27,240 --> 02:32:28,800
Speaker 1: the things. Now they'd be like, so I go to Major,

2674
02:32:28,800 --> 02:32:30,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeo, if you gotta bust the way it

2675
02:32:30,280 --> 02:32:34,560
Speaker 1: works right now? Everything you could it's analytics. So they

2676
02:32:34,640 --> 02:32:36,760
Speaker 1: could be like, you don't have this many Facebook friends,

2677
02:32:36,920 --> 02:32:39,600
Speaker 1: you don't have this many Internet um Instagram followers, you

2678
02:32:39,640 --> 02:32:43,120
Speaker 1: ain't got this many Twitter followers, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. But

2679
02:32:43,240 --> 02:32:45,680
Speaker 1: then when you do out all them numbers, you probably

2680
02:32:45,720 --> 02:32:47,920
Speaker 1: already set up with distroct Kids and tune Core and

2681
02:32:48,000 --> 02:32:50,440
Speaker 1: all that stream money coming to you. So what the

2682
02:32:50,520 --> 02:32:52,320
Speaker 1: funk you really need them for? Because they're not building

2683
02:32:52,440 --> 02:32:54,680
Speaker 1: artist from the ground up. No more, they're not done

2684
02:32:54,760 --> 02:32:56,600
Speaker 1: off from the ground up. They're going off your numbers. Yo,

2685
02:32:57,280 --> 02:32:59,640
Speaker 1: they ain't got this thing out. Fifteen millions streams on

2686
02:33:00,040 --> 02:33:02,640
Speaker 1: hits on YouTube, you got this many Now we want

2687
02:33:02,640 --> 02:33:04,040
Speaker 1: to funk with him. But at that point, if the

2688
02:33:04,200 --> 02:33:06,600
Speaker 1: artist is smart, they don't need you. But you know

2689
02:33:06,640 --> 02:33:09,400
Speaker 1: what I mean. So that's the game right now. It's

2690
02:33:09,480 --> 02:33:11,760
Speaker 1: any artist that's out right now, you're like, y'all wish

2691
02:33:11,760 --> 02:33:15,120
Speaker 1: you all to them new artists, new artists. Um to

2692
02:33:15,280 --> 02:33:16,920
Speaker 1: be honest with you'all can have fun with a lot

2693
02:33:16,959 --> 02:33:20,879
Speaker 1: of artists. Man, I'd be curving because I enjoyed my piece.

2694
02:33:21,000 --> 02:33:24,080
Speaker 1: Like when you get an artist, they problems become your problems,

2695
02:33:24,720 --> 02:33:27,119
Speaker 1: like and then they'd be super cool. And then when

2696
02:33:27,160 --> 02:33:30,199
Speaker 1: they be your artists would be mad. Problems they didn't

2697
02:33:30,200 --> 02:33:34,160
Speaker 1: have before that they got now that become they became

2698
02:33:34,240 --> 02:33:37,840
Speaker 1: your artists. Like Yo, my rent backed up. I'm like,

2699
02:33:37,879 --> 02:33:48,560
Speaker 1: how long six years making like now? Man? Yeah? Like

2700
02:33:48,920 --> 02:33:52,200
Speaker 1: she like that like that weird? I was supposed to

2701
02:33:52,240 --> 02:33:55,560
Speaker 1: say that, Come on, how many of you? I don't

2702
02:33:55,560 --> 02:33:59,080
Speaker 1: even want the paper? Can't come on artist, artists and yourself.

2703
02:33:59,080 --> 02:34:01,240
Speaker 1: I ain't gonnaind you out. I got one kid man,

2704
02:34:01,879 --> 02:34:09,000
Speaker 1: so you could do your man one kid man. That's

2705
02:34:09,080 --> 02:34:12,600
Speaker 1: it so um because I heard you say in the

2706
02:34:12,720 --> 02:34:14,640
Speaker 1: rhyme you said you was gonna take Juju back, but

2707
02:34:14,720 --> 02:34:19,240
Speaker 1: you saw what the fari what was what? It sounds

2708
02:34:19,280 --> 02:34:25,080
Speaker 1: like you understand. I don't know, I don't know. I'm

2709
02:34:25,120 --> 02:34:27,960
Speaker 1: asking so when I know when I broke up with

2710
02:34:28,040 --> 02:34:30,240
Speaker 1: her whatever, I guess. You know, we love and hip

2711
02:34:30,280 --> 02:34:33,640
Speaker 1: hop create the scenarios hard Safari running around, but a

2712
02:34:33,720 --> 02:34:35,720
Speaker 1: lot of people were sending it to me and you know,

2713
02:34:35,760 --> 02:34:38,000
Speaker 1: a little ship to stand the third And this is

2714
02:34:38,080 --> 02:34:39,720
Speaker 1: not to throw nobody under bucks. I don't have no

2715
02:34:39,760 --> 02:34:41,760
Speaker 1: problem with Safari, you have no problem with Juju or

2716
02:34:41,800 --> 02:34:46,240
Speaker 1: anything like that or whatever. But you know what when

2717
02:34:46,280 --> 02:34:48,200
Speaker 1: you was doing memes together, Yeah, like you know, I

2718
02:34:48,959 --> 02:34:51,440
Speaker 1: think I have an opportunity which you know, we won't

2719
02:34:51,440 --> 02:34:55,880
Speaker 1: get into the maybe'll rekindle ou situation if I wanted to,

2720
02:34:56,520 --> 02:35:00,400
Speaker 1: but that just kind of made it for me, like na,

2721
02:35:00,640 --> 02:35:04,400
Speaker 1: like no disrespect to so far, but you ain't got

2722
02:35:04,440 --> 02:35:06,720
Speaker 1: no type, like you know what I'm saying, Like it's

2723
02:35:06,800 --> 02:35:10,360
Speaker 1: just that's just two apples and orange, just big, like

2724
02:35:10,760 --> 02:35:12,440
Speaker 1: if you can mess with that note. And I'm not

2725
02:35:12,520 --> 02:35:16,840
Speaker 1: dissing them. I'm just like, that's your type. I'm not

2726
02:35:17,000 --> 02:35:32,080
Speaker 1: your type. No more respectful, respectfully, that's respectfully. I've never

2727
02:35:32,160 --> 02:35:37,480
Speaker 1: been stuck in my life. Please, I don't know what

2728
02:35:38,440 --> 02:35:41,200
Speaker 1: if you have. I'm a big big Elth fan. So

2729
02:35:41,280 --> 02:35:43,360
Speaker 1: if you have any big Elth story that you can

2730
02:35:43,440 --> 02:35:53,959
Speaker 1: tell me, big story, I really Uh damn. I got

2731
02:35:54,000 --> 02:35:56,440
Speaker 1: a lot of big eld stories. But they're like it's

2732
02:35:57,320 --> 02:36:00,879
Speaker 1: then if I say I'm it's still nigga's outside, that's

2733
02:36:00,920 --> 02:36:04,640
Speaker 1: gonna know what I'm talking about, the fun Like I'm

2734
02:36:04,680 --> 02:36:07,240
Speaker 1: trying to think, like, for instance, it's big I used

2735
02:36:07,280 --> 02:36:10,200
Speaker 1: to snap. The nigga's cruel person snapping, you know what

2736
02:36:10,240 --> 02:36:12,959
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and the niggas he was talking about still

2737
02:36:13,040 --> 02:36:16,200
Speaker 1: be outside. Not that I'm gonna talk, not that it's

2738
02:36:16,200 --> 02:36:18,160
Speaker 1: a problem, but it's just one of the situations like

2739
02:36:18,200 --> 02:36:21,800
Speaker 1: I don't want to bring up a nigga. You know,

2740
02:36:21,920 --> 02:36:28,960
Speaker 1: it's just hard man. His face, nigga's rude. He's like

2741
02:36:29,040 --> 02:36:33,640
Speaker 1: your mother's gonna die tomorrow, right, Yeah, talk like that

2742
02:36:33,800 --> 02:36:37,000
Speaker 1: to people. You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, like

2743
02:36:37,160 --> 02:36:39,440
Speaker 1: if we'll be rolling, dicing and nigga loud, you like

2744
02:36:39,520 --> 02:36:42,080
Speaker 1: your mother's gonna die to more anyway, So about that,

2745
02:36:42,400 --> 02:36:45,280
Speaker 1: and I'll be like, yo, this nigga is harsh man

2746
02:36:45,440 --> 02:36:48,760
Speaker 1: really harsh. But yeah, I can't really get into the

2747
02:36:48,879 --> 02:36:53,440
Speaker 1: best ones because his friends, his friends that he funk

2748
02:36:53,520 --> 02:36:57,879
Speaker 1: with that he used to talk about it's still outside, So, um,

2749
02:36:59,360 --> 02:37:01,840
Speaker 1: I'm really trying I think of a cool putting together

2750
02:37:02,000 --> 02:37:04,800
Speaker 1: Children of the Corn he said it was his. Yeah, absolutely, yeah,

2751
02:37:04,879 --> 02:37:06,720
Speaker 1: he had to deal so he you know, he's seen

2752
02:37:06,840 --> 02:37:09,920
Speaker 1: Nickel movements was popping off, so you know, he round

2753
02:37:10,000 --> 02:37:11,800
Speaker 1: it up. It's a song on this album called eight

2754
02:37:11,959 --> 02:37:14,600
Speaker 1: is Enough and he put me on that album on

2755
02:37:14,920 --> 02:37:17,600
Speaker 1: that song. So you know, I didn't really know anybody

2756
02:37:17,640 --> 02:37:19,400
Speaker 1: else on the record, so it was a privilege for

2757
02:37:19,440 --> 02:37:21,200
Speaker 1: him to put me on the record. And just the

2758
02:37:21,280 --> 02:37:23,280
Speaker 1: fact that he thought I could wrap. I appreciated that.

2759
02:37:24,640 --> 02:37:27,360
Speaker 1: Was it crazy that one record was the same sample

2760
02:37:27,480 --> 02:37:31,080
Speaker 1: that Puck had for what was the record the podcast

2761
02:37:31,120 --> 02:37:35,080
Speaker 1: after he passed It was the It was a record

2762
02:37:35,120 --> 02:37:36,720
Speaker 1: that you're talking about, man, It was one of the

2763
02:37:36,840 --> 02:37:41,000
Speaker 1: It was the American Dream. Yeah, yeah, I mean we

2764
02:37:41,240 --> 02:37:44,400
Speaker 1: we had it first. Res just wanted to use it

2765
02:37:44,480 --> 02:37:48,080
Speaker 1: before somebody else had it because Biggie I used um

2766
02:37:49,120 --> 02:37:52,600
Speaker 1: the bar sample for one more chance, And actually big

2767
02:37:52,800 --> 02:37:55,840
Speaker 1: L had that simple first on his ship having a

2768
02:37:55,879 --> 02:37:59,199
Speaker 1: big A couple of times. Yeah, Bigel had it first

2769
02:37:59,240 --> 02:38:04,240
Speaker 1: and then Biggie used it, and uh that Shi blew

2770
02:38:04,240 --> 02:38:06,600
Speaker 1: out the world. I changed the whole scenario for Biggie

2771
02:38:06,760 --> 02:38:10,119
Speaker 1: after that record came out. Yeah, how did you get?

2772
02:38:10,200 --> 02:38:16,400
Speaker 1: How did you? And phase on Glover? What's the names on?

2773
02:38:25,120 --> 02:38:27,520
Speaker 1: What is what is this? What is going on now?

2774
02:38:27,640 --> 02:38:30,000
Speaker 1: One day he was just talking reckless about jay Z.

2775
02:38:30,120 --> 02:38:32,960
Speaker 1: Wasn't you the street money? I just chimed in like

2776
02:38:33,360 --> 02:38:35,120
Speaker 1: I don't like, I don't think you're kind of out

2777
02:38:35,120 --> 02:38:38,320
Speaker 1: of pocket right there, because just just choming in like

2778
02:38:38,400 --> 02:38:42,680
Speaker 1: everybody else. Then he just started doing wow me, like

2779
02:38:42,920 --> 02:38:46,200
Speaker 1: photoshop pictures, acting like I was gay and doing gay ship.

2780
02:38:46,280 --> 02:38:48,840
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm gonna just go to all your videos.

2781
02:38:48,879 --> 02:38:51,039
Speaker 1: You're doing wow gay ship. If we're this and gay,

2782
02:38:51,080 --> 02:38:53,040
Speaker 1: I have a problem with gay people at all, nothing

2783
02:38:53,160 --> 02:38:55,960
Speaker 1: like that. But he was just calling me and I'm

2784
02:38:55,959 --> 02:38:59,879
Speaker 1: not having sexual so I like, if we're going this route,

2785
02:39:00,040 --> 02:39:02,920
Speaker 1: us have fun. You got nigg smacking him on the ass.

2786
02:39:03,600 --> 02:39:05,640
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Humping him, you know what

2787
02:39:05,680 --> 02:39:08,280
Speaker 1: I mean, all in his movies and all type of ships.

2788
02:39:08,320 --> 02:39:11,240
Speaker 1: So I like, you should have probably picked a better

2789
02:39:11,360 --> 02:39:13,760
Speaker 1: topic then to go to this round, because I'm a

2790
02:39:14,360 --> 02:39:16,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna clown you have fun doing that ship. I

2791
02:39:17,120 --> 02:39:20,800
Speaker 1: like Instagram, social media that should just like yeah, it's

2792
02:39:20,840 --> 02:39:22,520
Speaker 1: like you know what, But I tell me because it's

2793
02:39:22,560 --> 02:39:27,320
Speaker 1: like a it's it's a it's a Chevy on top

2794
02:39:27,360 --> 02:39:30,440
Speaker 1: of the world cream porch for me because when I

2795
02:39:30,560 --> 02:39:32,840
Speaker 1: say that, it's because it's extra it brings money to

2796
02:39:32,879 --> 02:39:35,240
Speaker 1: the table, et cetera. Cool. But I didn't come up

2797
02:39:35,280 --> 02:39:37,840
Speaker 1: in that error, so I don't panic it got niggas

2798
02:39:37,840 --> 02:39:39,959
Speaker 1: would come up in the Instagram error. Who if they

2799
02:39:40,000 --> 02:39:41,680
Speaker 1: don't get this many likes and there's many heads of

2800
02:39:41,760 --> 02:39:44,160
Speaker 1: this that they probably pin not probably definitely not seen

2801
02:39:44,200 --> 02:39:46,840
Speaker 1: it happen, or they're not feeling me anymore. My likes

2802
02:39:46,879 --> 02:39:49,200
Speaker 1: are going down. This is going down. So they panicked

2803
02:39:49,240 --> 02:39:51,680
Speaker 1: because they came up in the social media ever and

2804
02:39:51,760 --> 02:39:56,280
Speaker 1: that's what and to me, I Didin't this ship all

2805
02:39:56,800 --> 02:40:00,000
Speaker 1: extra cool? We're gonna bring some breadthrough social media, through

2806
02:40:00,040 --> 02:40:03,880
Speaker 1: the internet, etcetera, etcetera. But I'm not gonna panic if

2807
02:40:04,160 --> 02:40:07,800
Speaker 1: ship don't get a hundred thousand likes or if this

2808
02:40:07,920 --> 02:40:11,840
Speaker 1: don't get uh a million views or whatever the case is,

2809
02:40:11,920 --> 02:40:14,800
Speaker 1: because I still got wild bread. This ship is just

2810
02:40:15,040 --> 02:40:18,480
Speaker 1: extra topping on the cake for when for making it.

2811
02:40:18,600 --> 02:40:22,200
Speaker 1: But people panic over this because they came up in it.

2812
02:40:23,200 --> 02:40:26,320
Speaker 1: That's just not me. The same thing that that allows

2813
02:40:26,360 --> 02:40:40,360
Speaker 1: a dope talking, Yeah, the same thing that makes it dope.

2814
02:40:42,360 --> 02:40:44,840
Speaker 1: It's the same, the same engines in your brain that

2815
02:40:45,360 --> 02:40:47,400
Speaker 1: that makes you want to like you know what I'm saying.

2816
02:40:47,440 --> 02:40:50,480
Speaker 1: So that's why the kids are going crazy because they

2817
02:40:50,680 --> 02:40:52,800
Speaker 1: like dope fings. It was the whole doctor were talking

2818
02:40:52,800 --> 02:40:54,520
Speaker 1: we talked about we're talking about with Pitbull, the whole

2819
02:40:54,560 --> 02:40:57,600
Speaker 1: documentary that the guys that created the social media networks

2820
02:40:57,879 --> 02:41:03,360
Speaker 1: they made it that way. That the documentary you're doing

2821
02:41:03,720 --> 02:41:07,640
Speaker 1: ye on you or on dip set Okay, what's her

2822
02:41:07,680 --> 02:41:10,360
Speaker 1: name is documentary? I don't have a name it. We're

2823
02:41:10,360 --> 02:41:12,600
Speaker 1: in the middle of production now. Because what happens is this,

2824
02:41:12,760 --> 02:41:16,440
Speaker 1: I've been and you too. Most of your adult life

2825
02:41:16,480 --> 02:41:18,920
Speaker 1: has been publicized. So niggas don't think that you had

2826
02:41:18,959 --> 02:41:22,160
Speaker 1: a life before. You've been before you got the man,

2827
02:41:22,240 --> 02:41:24,360
Speaker 1: before I was the man. Yeah, exactly, I know what

2828
02:41:24,480 --> 02:41:26,520
Speaker 1: you said when you said you was Hollywood for the

2829
02:41:26,600 --> 02:41:35,360
Speaker 1: man before. Yeah, exactly before the yallar was the y'all exactly.

2830
02:41:35,480 --> 02:41:38,040
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. So most of my adult life

2831
02:41:38,080 --> 02:41:41,080
Speaker 1: has been captured this album and that album, and then

2832
02:41:41,160 --> 02:41:43,000
Speaker 1: niggas just think that's all it is. You know what

2833
02:41:43,040 --> 02:41:47,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like, so now you got to realize what

2834
02:41:47,920 --> 02:41:51,480
Speaker 1: I'm doing. This I'm doing like before you've been gaining music.

2835
02:41:51,520 --> 02:41:55,760
Speaker 1: I'm doing two two parts haul them in the late

2836
02:41:55,840 --> 02:41:59,360
Speaker 1: seventies and through the eighties. This is sound a documentary.

2837
02:41:59,480 --> 02:42:02,640
Speaker 1: This sounds like a reenacted documentary. No, it's a documentary

2838
02:42:02,760 --> 02:42:07,959
Speaker 1: docu drama, like like Ri's. It's the real you're talking about.

2839
02:42:07,959 --> 02:42:11,800
Speaker 1: It's people acting you out. No, No, it'd be stock

2840
02:42:11,879 --> 02:42:15,400
Speaker 1: footage and people doing interviews and maybe old. But what

2841
02:42:15,560 --> 02:42:18,200
Speaker 1: it is. What I want to do is from the

2842
02:42:18,280 --> 02:42:22,040
Speaker 1: late seventies to ear and through the eighties. I want

2843
02:42:22,080 --> 02:42:27,320
Speaker 1: to show that I was brought up in you get

2844
02:42:27,360 --> 02:42:31,279
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like, and probably a five six block radius.

2845
02:42:31,320 --> 02:42:33,600
Speaker 1: There's so many dope people from the late seventy early

2846
02:42:33,680 --> 02:42:36,520
Speaker 1: eighties and big time drug dealers or number runners or

2847
02:42:36,520 --> 02:42:40,000
Speaker 1: anything else like that that that needs to be publicized

2848
02:42:40,080 --> 02:42:44,840
Speaker 1: to make the realize who the niggut turned out to be,

2849
02:42:45,080 --> 02:42:47,000
Speaker 1: what made me the nigg got turned out to be

2850
02:42:47,920 --> 02:42:52,960
Speaker 1: so fucking uh. I want to talk about Fritz, I

2851
02:42:53,040 --> 02:42:55,040
Speaker 1: want to talk about Doug ee Lime. I want to

2852
02:42:55,120 --> 02:42:58,560
Speaker 1: talk about all these prominent figures in the four or

2853
02:42:58,560 --> 02:43:01,480
Speaker 1: five block radius to make me the person that I

2854
02:43:01,600 --> 02:43:03,680
Speaker 1: am growing up, you know, I want to talk about

2855
02:43:04,240 --> 02:43:07,720
Speaker 1: Big Allen, what it was, you know, his demas and

2856
02:43:07,840 --> 02:43:09,760
Speaker 1: his dad for on. These is all my friends, that

2857
02:43:09,959 --> 02:43:11,840
Speaker 1: the stories. I don't want to tell this story because

2858
02:43:11,840 --> 02:43:14,160
Speaker 1: it's not my story to tell. But if you ever

2859
02:43:14,200 --> 02:43:16,640
Speaker 1: see the movie City of Gods, that you know what

2860
02:43:16,720 --> 02:43:20,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's my story for big galls and nigger story.

2861
02:43:20,080 --> 02:43:23,360
Speaker 1: I'm the cameraman, you know I'm not. I'm not the

2862
02:43:23,440 --> 02:43:26,600
Speaker 1: nigger who was. Yeah, but I'm just saying I can

2863
02:43:26,680 --> 02:43:28,800
Speaker 1: tell you everything about the whole story. I wasn't out

2864
02:43:28,840 --> 02:43:32,200
Speaker 1: there killing with them niggers with killing each other. But

2865
02:43:32,360 --> 02:43:34,040
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I can tell you

2866
02:43:34,160 --> 02:43:36,000
Speaker 1: everything that happened, and a lot I need to be

2867
02:43:36,040 --> 02:43:41,080
Speaker 1: explained because like right now, right, I'm a superstitious nigger

2868
02:43:41,200 --> 02:43:45,760
Speaker 1: right like cut Poles, I mean you're working together. Yeah,

2869
02:43:45,800 --> 02:43:51,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I like, I don't handicapped Parker. I don't

2870
02:43:51,280 --> 02:43:54,000
Speaker 1: when I park, I walk around the handicap park I

2871
02:43:54,040 --> 02:43:56,760
Speaker 1: don't even want my feet to touch it the space

2872
02:43:57,360 --> 02:44:02,160
Speaker 1: period because yeah, yeah, yeah, because that could be your

2873
02:44:02,200 --> 02:44:04,360
Speaker 1: spot if you want it. You know what I'm saying.

2874
02:44:04,480 --> 02:44:09,960
Speaker 1: That can really be your Yeah, you can make it

2875
02:44:10,040 --> 02:44:11,680
Speaker 1: your spot. But the more of the story is, like

2876
02:44:11,800 --> 02:44:15,160
Speaker 1: my block, it's nothing in the world. It's nothing in

2877
02:44:15,240 --> 02:44:18,400
Speaker 1: this whole world right now that could make me. I

2878
02:44:18,480 --> 02:44:20,760
Speaker 1: could go Hunt forty Street, I go down Hunt thirty

2879
02:44:20,840 --> 02:44:22,600
Speaker 1: nine Fifth Avenue. It's nothing in this world that can

2880
02:44:22,680 --> 02:44:25,200
Speaker 1: make me walk and get out of my car on

2881
02:44:25,280 --> 02:44:29,440
Speaker 1: a Hunt thirty ninth Street between seven Atlantic Avenue because

2882
02:44:29,520 --> 02:44:31,800
Speaker 1: three niggers I know got popped, like in the twenty

2883
02:44:31,879 --> 02:44:35,879
Speaker 1: five ft space. So I'm never getting out my car

2884
02:44:36,120 --> 02:44:39,240
Speaker 1: on that block. I might go down, I don't. I'm

2885
02:44:39,320 --> 02:44:41,280
Speaker 1: just like, don't go to the Taco shot. Yeah, I'm

2886
02:44:41,280 --> 02:44:44,600
Speaker 1: not gonna go. Yeah, I don't go there because one

2887
02:44:44,640 --> 02:44:47,680
Speaker 1: of my best friends person I love, when he left there.

2888
02:44:49,480 --> 02:44:52,280
Speaker 1: Shot you're telling them, I don't. I don't. I won't.

2889
02:44:52,560 --> 02:44:57,280
Speaker 1: I look at it, but I won't right certain stayed outside, right,

2890
02:44:57,480 --> 02:44:59,879
Speaker 1: But I dig it like, I'm not typing that. I'm

2891
02:44:59,879 --> 02:45:03,960
Speaker 1: just not gonna do certain ship. So I'm superstitious like

2892
02:45:04,080 --> 02:45:07,360
Speaker 1: that though. But anyway, the story needs to be told

2893
02:45:07,480 --> 02:45:10,320
Speaker 1: on what I grew up into and what made me,

2894
02:45:11,320 --> 02:45:14,520
Speaker 1: you know, not trust certain niggains or not you it's

2895
02:45:14,560 --> 02:45:19,680
Speaker 1: not yeah, and then whatever I move, I move or whatever,

2896
02:45:20,440 --> 02:45:22,720
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, it needs to be a little

2897
02:45:22,760 --> 02:45:25,320
Speaker 1: more light shine on my neighborhood. So that's what I'm

2898
02:45:25,320 --> 02:45:27,600
Speaker 1: gonna do my first couple episodes before we even getting

2899
02:45:27,640 --> 02:45:31,240
Speaker 1: the dip set and my music career, anything, basketball career,

2900
02:45:31,320 --> 02:45:34,200
Speaker 1: anything like that. But if ship is so rich, why

2901
02:45:34,320 --> 02:45:36,720
Speaker 1: wouldn't it be like a re enacting ship? If I

2902
02:45:37,160 --> 02:45:41,320
Speaker 1: funk that question, if somebody's gonna play came run in

2903
02:45:41,360 --> 02:45:44,879
Speaker 1: the movie you're talking about, like with the wood Take Ship, Yeah,

2904
02:45:45,000 --> 02:45:47,360
Speaker 1: I think that can all happen. But I think this

2905
02:45:47,480 --> 02:45:53,240
Speaker 1: is set that the pet for that. Yeah. Yeah, and

2906
02:45:53,280 --> 02:45:56,080
Speaker 1: they're making it tomorrow. Who are you picking to play you?

2907
02:45:57,000 --> 02:45:58,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't even know what they're gona

2908
02:45:58,879 --> 02:46:04,480
Speaker 1: like me. Bro, it's hard, but that's it's you. You You,

2909
02:46:07,959 --> 02:46:10,080
Speaker 1: This is really you play Alphle How did you do

2910
02:46:10,120 --> 02:46:12,920
Speaker 1: your research for Alphole. I lived in halland if I

2911
02:46:13,000 --> 02:46:14,840
Speaker 1: did a bad job, I wouldn't be able to live

2912
02:46:14,920 --> 02:46:17,600
Speaker 1: that damn. Like you know what I'm gonna do, go

2913
02:46:17,720 --> 02:46:19,360
Speaker 1: back home. And then when I did that movie, this

2914
02:46:19,480 --> 02:46:21,680
Speaker 1: when I was outside every day, like I was on

2915
02:46:21,800 --> 02:46:28,880
Speaker 1: Lenox Avenue every day, when a beat out of no,

2916
02:46:29,000 --> 02:46:32,240
Speaker 1: I'm just saying you know, you know, I'm just saying

2917
02:46:32,320 --> 02:46:36,080
Speaker 1: that because um, you know Damon, Damon's like going to

2918
02:46:36,080 --> 02:46:38,160
Speaker 1: produce that movie, had a little leverage, and then um,

2919
02:46:40,120 --> 02:46:42,120
Speaker 1: Dame lobby for me to get that spot. He wanted,

2920
02:46:42,840 --> 02:46:45,800
Speaker 1: They wanted another actor to get it, but they were

2921
02:46:45,840 --> 02:46:48,120
Speaker 1: stuck on with Harris. So Dame told him, if you

2922
02:46:48,240 --> 02:46:50,800
Speaker 1: really want what Harris, you gotta get me camera and

2923
02:46:50,879 --> 02:46:53,480
Speaker 1: he did good. So that's how that went. But but

2924
02:46:54,200 --> 02:46:55,880
Speaker 1: I said it earlier in the interview. I was like,

2925
02:46:56,200 --> 02:47:03,800
Speaker 1: like superstar status, household name. I think after paying the Fall, yeah,

2926
02:47:03,840 --> 02:47:06,760
Speaker 1: absolutely have to pay for you gotta realize its painting.

2927
02:47:06,840 --> 02:47:09,200
Speaker 1: Fall came out one year there, old boy and Haymond

2928
02:47:09,240 --> 02:47:11,440
Speaker 1: and diplomats and Jim Jones, didn't you well it was

2929
02:47:11,480 --> 02:47:13,680
Speaker 1: like a domino effect of a lot of ship there.

2930
02:47:15,040 --> 02:47:20,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, after that, it wasn't it was Yeah, you

2931
02:47:20,240 --> 02:47:24,040
Speaker 1: described you to do you play the great part to me.

2932
02:47:27,520 --> 02:47:29,120
Speaker 1: I I'm gonna tell you what my sick. My ship

2933
02:47:29,200 --> 02:47:33,600
Speaker 1: was all freestyle. What happened was one year. Uh I

2934
02:47:33,720 --> 02:47:37,400
Speaker 1: knew Griselda. I didn't because this just sounds crazy. I

2935
02:47:37,520 --> 02:47:40,560
Speaker 1: just the way describers was tart. Let me just excuse

2936
02:47:40,600 --> 02:47:42,600
Speaker 1: me because we're tart. It might be wrong too, right,

2937
02:47:43,280 --> 02:47:48,640
Speaker 1: But I knew that there was some Colombians and queens. Oh,

2938
02:47:48,800 --> 02:47:52,800
Speaker 1: I did not be personally, but Queen's we had the cocaine.

2939
02:47:53,879 --> 02:47:58,560
Speaker 1: We didn't have to go up town. And I've seen

2940
02:47:58,600 --> 02:48:02,800
Speaker 1: Alpo and Rich. That's the ship I'm describing, Nika popping

2941
02:48:02,840 --> 02:48:05,680
Speaker 1: the wheelies all that that was them. Niggas was in

2942
02:48:05,840 --> 02:48:10,520
Speaker 1: forty Projects and that's what they were doing the same

2943
02:48:10,560 --> 02:48:13,000
Speaker 1: exact scene that I'm striving. And I don't know, I

2944
02:48:13,240 --> 02:48:17,199
Speaker 1: don't get what you say because they're like, y'll listen,

2945
02:48:17,320 --> 02:48:22,879
Speaker 1: describe alphole but over exaggerated. I was like, alright, cool,

2946
02:48:23,040 --> 02:48:25,560
Speaker 1: I don't even have to kind of over exaggerated. I

2947
02:48:25,680 --> 02:48:29,000
Speaker 1: kind of it's gonna use what I've seen in forty Projects.

2948
02:48:29,040 --> 02:48:30,600
Speaker 1: One day I went to see Uncle Wise and forty

2949
02:48:30,640 --> 02:48:34,760
Speaker 1: Projects or basically is one of those things and I've

2950
02:48:34,800 --> 02:48:39,800
Speaker 1: seen Alphole Rich and I forget whatever whatever one of

2951
02:48:39,920 --> 02:48:43,520
Speaker 1: these other guys is. But they was out there because queens.

2952
02:48:43,600 --> 02:48:46,680
Speaker 1: We had it at this time, and they were showing off.

2953
02:48:47,360 --> 02:48:49,040
Speaker 1: That's when I knew what the Hall of Nigga was.

2954
02:48:49,640 --> 02:48:51,920
Speaker 1: The Hall of Nigga is one of the Papa Willie

2955
02:48:52,040 --> 02:48:57,039
Speaker 1: in forty projects, just got killer neighborhood. But these things

2956
02:48:57,080 --> 02:49:00,760
Speaker 1: wanted to be like like yo, yoa gonna remember who

2957
02:49:00,800 --> 02:49:03,160
Speaker 1: we were when we left. But they bore all the drugs.

2958
02:49:03,280 --> 02:49:07,000
Speaker 1: It's a fact. And I was like wow. So when

2959
02:49:07,040 --> 02:49:09,760
Speaker 1: I got the role, you know that my part some

2960
02:49:09,879 --> 02:49:12,840
Speaker 1: of y'all shy did in Canada, right, most of it. Yeah,

2961
02:49:13,040 --> 02:49:16,040
Speaker 1: My sip was on a huntred fur. My sip was

2962
02:49:16,120 --> 02:49:18,800
Speaker 1: in hall. So they said, yo, and I just I

2963
02:49:18,920 --> 02:49:22,720
Speaker 1: just a freestyle that most of the ship. I freestyle.

2964
02:49:22,879 --> 02:49:37,960
Speaker 1: Charles Stone was super dop. It was I havenau. The

2965
02:49:38,080 --> 02:49:40,800
Speaker 1: script was whacked, the clothing was whacking. I was like, yo, dame,

2966
02:49:40,840 --> 02:49:43,560
Speaker 1: they're gonna move back. No not. The script was wack.

2967
02:49:43,680 --> 02:49:46,600
Speaker 1: The dialogue so what they did was yes, yes, yes,

2968
02:49:46,720 --> 02:49:49,120
Speaker 1: divalogue was trash to use their dialogue. Yeah, So what

2969
02:49:49,280 --> 02:49:52,560
Speaker 1: Charles to do was you didn't use their dialogue me. No,

2970
02:49:52,760 --> 02:49:57,320
Speaker 1: he he gave me. He gave me two takes. I

2971
02:49:57,360 --> 02:49:59,440
Speaker 1: would read the dialogue that was in the script and

2972
02:49:59,480 --> 02:50:02,480
Speaker 1: he'd like saying, how for real you would say that

2973
02:50:02,520 --> 02:50:05,120
Speaker 1: if he was out there. So ninety percent of my

2974
02:50:05,280 --> 02:50:09,000
Speaker 1: dialogue was improv because shaw Stones understood that he's a

2975
02:50:09,080 --> 02:50:11,760
Speaker 1: dope director, but he did um you know, how to

2976
02:50:11,800 --> 02:50:14,000
Speaker 1: capture and he didn't like Daddy day Care or something

2977
02:50:14,080 --> 02:50:16,600
Speaker 1: like that CEO C movie. You know, I'm the girl

2978
02:50:17,040 --> 02:50:19,080
Speaker 1: girl really thought. I really thought she was left dive

2979
02:50:19,160 --> 02:50:26,320
Speaker 1: man playing that part off. He's gonna capturing times? Man, Oh,

2980
02:50:28,040 --> 02:50:30,760
Speaker 1: what what's kill the season? What we're gonna do last

2981
02:50:30,800 --> 02:50:35,080
Speaker 1: season parts? You know that's big niggas. Niggas really want

2982
02:50:35,160 --> 02:50:38,360
Speaker 1: that man. So yeah, let's put together. Start to go

2983
02:50:38,520 --> 02:50:42,000
Speaker 1: fund me, start to go fund me see him. Niggers

2984
02:50:42,040 --> 02:50:48,400
Speaker 1: really wanted. He can't really independent. Do you want us

2985
02:50:48,440 --> 02:51:03,160
Speaker 1: to man all the killing season? Where we filmed that movie?

2986
02:51:04,400 --> 02:51:07,520
Speaker 1: I was crazy. I would get up. I would watch

2987
02:51:07,600 --> 02:51:10,840
Speaker 1: a movie and have to pay the yeah, and everybody

2988
02:51:10,920 --> 02:51:14,840
Speaker 1: goes listen, everybody's starving for you to act like I'm

2989
02:51:14,879 --> 02:51:16,680
Speaker 1: doing my own ship because you know what, I think

2990
02:51:16,720 --> 02:51:20,240
Speaker 1: it's me Broma's roles like be a florist. You know

2991
02:51:20,320 --> 02:51:23,800
Speaker 1: what hurts me mad? Now I'm old. I'm not you know,

2992
02:51:23,840 --> 02:51:25,720
Speaker 1: I can't comprehend. But you know what hurt me bad

2993
02:51:25,840 --> 02:51:28,360
Speaker 1: ro When I went to see Minster Society in the

2994
02:51:28,440 --> 02:51:31,160
Speaker 1: movie theater and then the next time I went to

2995
02:51:31,280 --> 02:51:33,840
Speaker 1: movie theater to see Old Dog, he was inkwell, and

2996
02:51:33,920 --> 02:51:36,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, na, I'm not dog. Like you know what

2997
02:51:36,240 --> 02:51:43,840
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like I noticed he's acting. Yeah, he really

2998
02:51:43,879 --> 02:51:46,959
Speaker 1: acted about telling you at that particular time like I'll

2999
02:51:47,000 --> 02:51:50,000
Speaker 1: play I play against the forest florist. Now, I'm just saying.

3000
02:51:50,520 --> 02:51:52,960
Speaker 1: At that time, I wanted taking roles like It's ship

3001
02:51:53,080 --> 02:51:54,840
Speaker 1: with Tom Hanks stayed for me on type of ship.

3002
02:51:55,040 --> 02:51:57,920
Speaker 1: Somebout Tom doing my own movie, and I gotta say, man,

3003
02:51:58,000 --> 02:52:00,160
Speaker 1: I spend like a hunting son down too on it

3004
02:52:00,240 --> 02:52:02,680
Speaker 1: on it. But I was waking up, like right, what

3005
02:52:02,800 --> 02:52:05,240
Speaker 1: do we I saw that Shi in order like I

3006
02:52:05,480 --> 02:52:07,080
Speaker 1: just that there is a story here, we show the

3007
02:52:07,120 --> 02:52:09,080
Speaker 1: me in here, we have a shoot I watched heat

3008
02:52:09,080 --> 02:52:11,440
Speaker 1: one name like, yo, my sister, I'm like, I want

3009
02:52:11,440 --> 02:52:13,440
Speaker 1: to have a shootout. She like, if you wait next week,

3010
02:52:13,520 --> 02:52:16,760
Speaker 1: we could do it. For I wanted tomorrow She's like,

3011
02:52:16,879 --> 02:52:18,800
Speaker 1: give me two days. Can We just had to shoot

3012
02:52:18,840 --> 02:52:21,320
Speaker 1: out and I made this. That ship was off the

3013
02:52:21,400 --> 02:52:23,480
Speaker 1: top of my head. It was no script. We ain't

3014
02:52:23,480 --> 02:52:27,440
Speaker 1: nobody had no paperwork, stared on nothing, one nigga period.

3015
02:52:27,640 --> 02:52:31,320
Speaker 1: I just got the masters the rights back to it

3016
02:52:33,600 --> 02:52:36,680
Speaker 1: a silence part of my master's getting back. So basically

3017
02:52:36,760 --> 02:52:39,200
Speaker 1: they at the rights in the movie. And then um,

3018
02:52:39,840 --> 02:52:41,640
Speaker 1: I got my music back, and then I got Killer

3019
02:52:41,720 --> 02:52:44,160
Speaker 1: season back probably about eleven months ago. Show now on it.

3020
02:52:45,240 --> 02:52:52,160
Speaker 1: Oh Dad, this is right, I only got you got anything.

3021
02:52:52,520 --> 02:52:56,400
Speaker 1: You the reason why I got my business perfect like that.

3022
02:52:59,800 --> 02:53:01,760
Speaker 1: Let it's just a basic thing that me and my

3023
02:53:01,879 --> 02:53:05,879
Speaker 1: lady got together. Close shoes, accessories, waste, trainers, you need

3024
02:53:06,480 --> 02:53:08,320
Speaker 1: we got, you know what I mean. And it really

3025
02:53:08,360 --> 02:53:11,040
Speaker 1: comes off stemming off a Killer because everything he did,

3026
02:53:11,480 --> 02:53:13,320
Speaker 1: if he saw something, he wanted to know how to

3027
02:53:13,480 --> 02:53:15,039
Speaker 1: own it. You know what I'm saying. He don't want

3028
02:53:15,080 --> 02:53:16,280
Speaker 1: to be a part of it, you know what I mean.

3029
02:53:16,360 --> 02:53:17,880
Speaker 1: He wanted to own He made the tire, he wanted

3030
02:53:17,879 --> 02:53:20,560
Speaker 1: to make the tire so good that they become his tire.

3031
02:53:20,720 --> 02:53:23,200
Speaker 1: So with that and everybody moving forth, I don't even

3032
02:53:23,680 --> 02:53:26,240
Speaker 1: knew what to do because of him, and that's how

3033
02:53:26,280 --> 02:53:28,920
Speaker 1: I had the stories about ten years now. But you

3034
02:53:28,959 --> 02:53:39,720
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, definitely, it's www dot my perfect

3035
02:53:39,800 --> 02:53:42,560
Speaker 1: pid dot net. You know what I'm saying, Definitely, ladies

3036
02:53:42,600 --> 02:53:47,320
Speaker 1: going there from super small to five X. Now, Mom,

3037
02:53:47,400 --> 02:53:49,680
Speaker 1: I think it's my last question. It's gotta be gotta be.

3038
02:53:49,879 --> 02:53:57,320
Speaker 1: I gotta peak this last one little off this deserve ship.

3039
02:53:59,520 --> 02:54:02,000
Speaker 1: Do you think that y'all brung it to the furthest

3040
02:54:02,200 --> 02:54:07,000
Speaker 1: stent with that, oh, the liquor, yeah, the look at

3041
02:54:07,040 --> 02:54:11,280
Speaker 1: this yeah, uh killing with further, you know, be honest

3042
02:54:11,320 --> 02:54:13,280
Speaker 1: with you. That's John. There was a lot of Jim

3043
02:54:13,920 --> 02:54:17,200
Speaker 1: Jim connect. I was more of a face even though

3044
02:54:17,240 --> 02:54:20,560
Speaker 1: he's you know, the money was all good, but Jim

3045
02:54:20,680 --> 02:54:22,480
Speaker 1: handled a lot of that, like a lot of stuff

3046
02:54:22,560 --> 02:54:25,240
Speaker 1: Jim needs, Like Jim went to Cotch. He's the one

3047
02:54:25,280 --> 02:54:28,080
Speaker 1: one not wanting to go to cots Jim felts people.

3048
02:54:28,600 --> 02:54:30,400
Speaker 1: You know, Jim brought a lot of ship to the table.

3049
02:54:30,520 --> 02:54:33,480
Speaker 1: So while he was getting along with him not getting along,

3050
02:54:33,520 --> 02:54:36,240
Speaker 1: I played my position, even though my position was still

3051
02:54:37,560 --> 02:54:39,680
Speaker 1: the same as his. But I let him handle that

3052
02:54:39,720 --> 02:54:41,520
Speaker 1: ship like that's a lot of ship to me and

3053
02:54:41,640 --> 02:54:44,520
Speaker 1: Jim do today when it comes to business and maybe

3054
02:54:44,600 --> 02:54:48,720
Speaker 1: in some shift for diplomat going on, uh clothing deal

3055
02:54:48,840 --> 02:54:50,880
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm talking to home like I handle it,

3056
02:54:51,040 --> 02:54:52,720
Speaker 1: let me know what we get. But then it might

3057
02:54:52,800 --> 02:54:55,280
Speaker 1: be a skateboard deal, and be like, yo, I'm just like,

3058
02:54:55,400 --> 02:54:57,320
Speaker 1: you know, about to bust these mood funds dot dot.

3059
02:54:57,760 --> 02:54:59,840
Speaker 1: So we don't always gotta be around each other as

3060
02:54:59,879 --> 02:55:02,400
Speaker 1: we communicating. Let me know you're about to be two

3061
02:55:02,480 --> 02:55:05,400
Speaker 1: and eight thousand for hat deal, or it might be

3062
02:55:05,800 --> 02:55:07,959
Speaker 1: a skateboard deal for for you know what I'm saying,

3063
02:55:08,040 --> 02:55:09,880
Speaker 1: like I don't got to be there, just let me

3064
02:55:09,920 --> 02:55:12,640
Speaker 1: know what the numbers is and vice versa. You know

3065
02:55:12,680 --> 02:55:15,880
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like that's trust too. Yeah, absolutely, because

3066
02:55:15,920 --> 02:55:17,600
Speaker 1: we got some ship that's about to come up. I

3067
02:55:17,640 --> 02:55:21,360
Speaker 1: didn't even tell you, but I got it's a surprise. Yeah,

3068
02:55:21,560 --> 02:55:27,320
Speaker 1: we're not gonna really Yeah, let's be clear. I'm gonna

3069
02:55:27,320 --> 02:55:31,000
Speaker 1: be honest. I love your brothers, I appreciate, I'm so

3070
02:55:31,120 --> 02:55:34,520
Speaker 1: glad everything everything, But y'all all the actually first guests

3071
02:55:34,560 --> 02:55:38,280
Speaker 1: and never drink or smoke it out. That's not that's

3072
02:55:38,320 --> 02:55:45,640
Speaker 1: not because these niggs drink and smoke smoking a black

3073
02:55:45,680 --> 02:55:51,760
Speaker 1: and I don't know what what this black and is about.

3074
02:55:52,800 --> 02:55:56,760
Speaker 1: Let's be honest with y'all. Seen you show and I'd

3075
02:55:56,800 --> 02:55:59,600
Speaker 1: be like, niggas look crazy, funked up up your small

3076
02:56:01,720 --> 02:56:05,920
Speaker 1: we're not good to talk about it. I wasn't gonna

3077
02:56:05,920 --> 02:56:10,720
Speaker 1: do that. I don't see things up here. I don't

3078
02:56:10,720 --> 02:56:34,000
Speaker 1: know if people gold. I've seen the way different, different way.

3079
02:56:34,080 --> 02:56:36,360
Speaker 1: Let's just tell you something before people put up the

3080
02:56:36,440 --> 02:56:39,440
Speaker 1: drink chance. We begged them, don't get drunk, don't smoke,

3081
02:56:40,000 --> 02:56:41,760
Speaker 1: just come so we could do it together. You know

3082
02:56:41,760 --> 02:56:45,320
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, that's what the celebration. Listen, you know,

3083
02:56:45,400 --> 02:56:48,199
Speaker 1: god less versus for taking our celebration, you know, thinking

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Speaker 1: and making it theirs. And that's no problem because you

3085
02:56:50,040 --> 02:56:52,880
Speaker 1: know what. You don't have to laugh that hard, all right,

3086
02:56:54,640 --> 02:56:57,360
Speaker 1: but if you're right, but you know, god less versus

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02:56:57,360 --> 02:56:59,480
Speaker 1: for taking that, that's what this is. It's a celebration.

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02:56:59,800 --> 02:57:02,880
Speaker 1: So just in case I didn't say it, because you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if your fans have been telling you

3090
02:57:04,640 --> 02:57:05,920
Speaker 1: this is the reason why they want you to come

3091
02:57:05,959 --> 02:57:09,320
Speaker 1: on Drink Champs, it's because how how much I appreciate you.

3092
02:57:09,840 --> 02:57:13,040
Speaker 1: You've been a part of not only my you know,

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02:57:13,560 --> 02:57:18,000
Speaker 1: CNN when when once come on with to Jail. That's

3094
02:57:18,040 --> 02:57:21,080
Speaker 1: my first freestyle with someone outside of my barrow all

3095
02:57:21,120 --> 02:57:23,600
Speaker 1: side of people that I worked with, but not only that,

3096
02:57:24,760 --> 02:57:29,800
Speaker 1: uh my solo career. You know bad from TV. I said,

3097
02:57:29,840 --> 02:57:34,800
Speaker 1: I called you earlier? What what? And that was a

3098
02:57:34,879 --> 02:57:40,000
Speaker 1: disrespect to band from TV because band for TV was

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02:57:40,080 --> 02:57:43,920
Speaker 1: the people that I considered my closest friends. So that's

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02:57:43,920 --> 02:57:45,440
Speaker 1: why I wish you would have called me back then

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02:57:45,480 --> 02:57:48,600
Speaker 1: when we talked about that earlier. But but that and

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02:57:49,720 --> 02:57:55,080
Speaker 1: what was this last question I got? Is Perrie dogging? Right?

3103
02:58:02,400 --> 02:58:08,760
Speaker 1: Take another shot? What's your memory a band from TV?

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02:58:09,720 --> 02:58:12,600
Speaker 1: I remember when I wanted to be was hard to

3105
02:58:12,720 --> 02:58:16,600
Speaker 1: be was so hard and I wanted to rap longer.

3106
02:58:16,640 --> 02:58:18,640
Speaker 1: And he was like, Kim, I gotta be trouble. I

3107
02:58:18,680 --> 02:58:21,600
Speaker 1: think it's troubler. Yeah, And I was like, yo, let

3108
02:58:21,640 --> 02:58:24,640
Speaker 1: me just go crazy like him. You gotta keep it,

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02:58:25,000 --> 02:58:26,920
Speaker 1: you gotta keep it sixteen I'm like, this be too

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02:58:27,000 --> 02:58:30,800
Speaker 1: hard to do. Sixteen bars many. I don't remember this camp,

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02:58:30,800 --> 02:58:34,320
Speaker 1: so you gotta school me. Did you hear anybody else's

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02:58:34,480 --> 02:58:39,280
Speaker 1: verse at that time? Really? I just now I didn't

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02:58:39,360 --> 02:58:41,240
Speaker 1: nobody else verse. I just I just heard the beat,

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02:58:41,320 --> 02:58:43,760
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeo this, I didn't know Locks

3115
02:58:43,800 --> 02:58:52,360
Speaker 1: and nobody was gonna be on there. We appreciate your

3116
02:59:00,280 --> 02:59:10,960
Speaker 1: ship ship all right, so weerate this question. Reiterated, relaxed.

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02:59:12,800 --> 02:59:15,279
Speaker 1: You didn't know no one else was on that record

3118
02:59:15,560 --> 02:59:19,440
Speaker 1: for band, for TV. You just played the beef for me,

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02:59:20,879 --> 02:59:24,560
Speaker 1: elect lady. I don't remember the studio, but I remember

3120
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Speaker 1: I ain't getting a lot of money. I don't remember.

3121
02:59:30,040 --> 02:59:32,800
Speaker 1: I do remember when I heard it. I was like, damn, man,

3122
02:59:32,840 --> 02:59:34,680
Speaker 1: I would have probably did something else because I heard

3123
02:59:34,720 --> 02:59:39,880
Speaker 1: the Locks on it. Afterwards, then Pun was on it. Yeah, yeah,

3124
02:59:39,959 --> 02:59:43,160
Speaker 1: you killed Now I appreciate it, but I still was.

3125
02:59:43,320 --> 02:59:48,560
Speaker 1: I was like, it's nothing like in my opinion is

3126
02:59:48,640 --> 02:59:51,200
Speaker 1: just like damn, I wish I would. I didn't know

3127
02:59:51,280 --> 02:59:53,119
Speaker 1: nobody was gonna be on the record, period. Not saying

3128
02:59:53,160 --> 02:59:55,119
Speaker 1: I didn't appreciate. I didn't throw to me a nory

3129
02:59:55,200 --> 02:59:56,800
Speaker 1: record though I didn't know who else was gonna be.

3130
02:59:57,520 --> 02:59:59,920
Speaker 1: Everybody else on the record that other people on today

3131
03:00:00,040 --> 03:00:03,680
Speaker 1: hear their verses. Honestly, it was how did that process

3132
03:00:03,720 --> 03:00:08,360
Speaker 1: go with everybody else? It was nature was in the

3133
03:00:08,440 --> 03:00:17,360
Speaker 1: studio called hunt called cam cam always was in Man,

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Speaker 1: I think I'm twenty blocks away. I'm good you came.

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03:00:21,560 --> 03:00:25,039
Speaker 1: You heard the ship slave this ship and just laugh. Okay,

3136
03:00:25,080 --> 03:00:28,480
Speaker 1: but everybody else here the other verses, I didn't know

3137
03:00:28,560 --> 03:00:30,520
Speaker 1: if we was I was gonna put hooks in there.

3138
03:00:30,959 --> 03:00:33,080
Speaker 1: So he's probably right when he says when he says, yo,

3139
03:00:33,200 --> 03:00:35,360
Speaker 1: I just played him to be. I wanted to keep

3140
03:00:35,440 --> 03:00:37,880
Speaker 1: going rapping. I remember he's like Cam, so you just

3141
03:00:38,040 --> 03:00:41,200
Speaker 1: never told people there was other I can't live his story.

3142
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Speaker 1: His other part of the story is helping me, shoping

3143
03:00:43,800 --> 03:00:46,360
Speaker 1: mild the part of the story. But really what it

3144
03:00:46,600 --> 03:00:50,800
Speaker 1: was was I thought I was gonna do a hook

3145
03:00:51,879 --> 03:00:55,120
Speaker 1: but it was Nature. Then it was Pun, and it

3146
03:00:55,320 --> 03:00:57,120
Speaker 1: was Cam, and I got them all three on the

3147
03:00:57,280 --> 03:01:02,160
Speaker 1: same exact day, no, same exact night. And the reason

3148
03:01:02,200 --> 03:01:04,199
Speaker 1: why I remember it was it was an electric Lady,

3149
03:01:04,680 --> 03:01:07,000
Speaker 1: was because I went downstairs because one of my boys

3150
03:01:07,040 --> 03:01:10,400
Speaker 1: went to Great Papayas and I went downstairs because Pun

3151
03:01:10,600 --> 03:01:13,480
Speaker 1: was never supposed to be on the record. You talked

3152
03:01:13,480 --> 03:01:15,200
Speaker 1: about PM wasn't supposed to be on the record. I

3153
03:01:15,240 --> 03:01:17,000
Speaker 1: was supposed to put you in Nature on the record.

3154
03:01:17,520 --> 03:01:21,680
Speaker 1: That was my idea. But then I went downstairs to

3155
03:01:21,760 --> 03:01:23,920
Speaker 1: Great Policies. One of my dudes was eating the frank

3156
03:01:24,000 --> 03:01:25,560
Speaker 1: and I was like, I just wanted to make fun

3157
03:01:25,640 --> 03:01:28,080
Speaker 1: of this nigga, and I went and pun lay the verse.

3158
03:01:28,480 --> 03:01:31,760
Speaker 1: When pun lay Diverse, I was like, yo, I gotta

3159
03:01:31,800 --> 03:01:35,080
Speaker 1: put put cam on this, and you were like twenty

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Speaker 1: blocks away. I forgot. I think he was in a

3161
03:01:36,440 --> 03:01:38,560
Speaker 1: hip factory. I think it was a block hit factory.

3162
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Speaker 1: But you didn't know anybody else was on this verse. Okay,

3163
03:01:41,760 --> 03:01:43,680
Speaker 1: so let's just end this with this. Do you think

3164
03:01:43,720 --> 03:01:47,720
Speaker 1: you had the best version of Badman TV? Uh? I

3165
03:01:47,800 --> 03:01:49,880
Speaker 1: don't know. I have to listen to it again, but

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03:01:50,560 --> 03:01:54,640
Speaker 1: I really, I'm really a big fan of when Jada

3167
03:01:54,720 --> 03:01:57,320
Speaker 1: and Styles go back to back, I'm a big fan of.

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03:01:57,879 --> 03:02:00,560
Speaker 1: That's very humble, you know like that. Then also, you know,

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03:02:01,360 --> 03:02:04,040
Speaker 1: what's your part as well? You're saying I had the

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03:02:04,080 --> 03:02:06,840
Speaker 1: best part. You say that can Yeah, at least I'm

3171
03:02:06,840 --> 03:02:10,960
Speaker 1: not talking. I'm saying I'm not your lot. Fun was

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03:02:11,080 --> 03:02:16,080
Speaker 1: one of the best to the club. See, that's what

3173
03:02:16,160 --> 03:02:19,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying. When you ab all that ship, you have

3174
03:02:19,800 --> 03:02:22,959
Speaker 1: to put yourself in different minds, you in the car,

3175
03:02:23,160 --> 03:02:25,040
Speaker 1: or you in the business or whatever when you're in

3176
03:02:25,040 --> 03:02:39,400
Speaker 1: the club. But for the club, you had the verse right.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs,

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