WEBVTT - BONUS: BobbyCast - #98 - Dan from Dan + Shay 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:01.720 Hey, So Dan and Shay put out a new song 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:05.280 today and back in the day, about one hundred episodes 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:07.560 to go on the Bobby Cast. Dan from Dan and 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:09.000 Shay came out by himself and I just kind of 0:00:09.000 --> 0:00:10.560 wanted to play it again. You know, they're back up, 0:00:10.600 --> 0:00:13.280 they're blowing up there. They're just I've achieved new levels 0:00:13.280 --> 0:00:16.959 of success. And so this is Dan talking about even 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:18.720 part of this when they were really really struggling and 0:00:18.720 --> 0:00:21.119 having to steal pizza. So an old episode of The 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:23.840 Bobby Cast. I'm gonna play for you now and subscribe 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:25.880 to The Bobby Cast. It's an interview podcast. We talk 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:28.240 to creatives and we also talk about music. So check 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:29.760 out the Bobby Cast. We do it from my house 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:32.199 most of the time. And this is an episode with 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:35.400 Dan Smiers from Dan and Shay from over a year ago, 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:37.640 kind of his life story. Check it out. All right, 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:40.720 Welcome to episode ninety eight of The Bobby Cast with 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:44.440 Dan Smiers of Dan and Shay. Do you feel like 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:46.440 I guess the question I've always wondered. Do you feel 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:49.920 like you've lost some of your identity because you're always 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:51.800 known as one of the two people I do lose 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:54.040 my last name a little bit. It's Dan, Dan and Shay. 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:55.960 You know what I mean? Because I never say is 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:57.880 that even how you I've never even talked to you 0:00:57.920 --> 0:00:59.640 as Dan Smiers, is that even how you say that 0:00:59.760 --> 0:01:01.800 this is the first time I like it. It's nice. 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:03.800 It is how I say it. Officially. You nailed it. 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:08.240 Usually it's like Smears or Dan s Myers or Dance Myers. 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:11.720 I've had people be like, oh, Dance Myers, DNC Myers school, 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:14.360 because you were Dan when you moved down here. You 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:16.959 weren't Dan and Jay I was. I was. I was 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:19.080 like the really poor guy who couldn't afford to pay 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:21.160 his rent. Dan. It was. It was rough times for 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:24.679 a while. That's gotta be frustrating to be one and 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:26.800 awesome because there are times too where you can lean 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:28.399 on someone and it goes back and forth. But to 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:30.960 be because you're you're a real life human, Like when 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:33.960 you prick you you bleed. I exist, I'm here, I'm rocking. 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:36.720 I was late. I was a few minutes later. It's traffic. Traffic. 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:40.720 Traffic gets me. Yeah, but it's ice. It's traffic. It's 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:43.920 you just can't win. It's Tennessee, where we're not used 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:47.160 to this. I'm also not good at preparing either, so 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:49.320 i'll you know, see it says like traffic is light, 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:51.960 eleven minutes is your time, and I'll leave eleven minutes before. 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:53.760 I believe that would drive me crazy. If it says 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:56.520 eleven minutes, I'll leave twenty one minutes. Really yeah, and prepared. 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:59.240 That's why you're more successful than I am. That's not true. 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:03.040 My hill, though, it up here, is just treacherous and steep. 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:05.320 I was wondering was it bad the last few days? Terrible? 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:08.320 I couldn't. Luckily, I have a jeep and I put 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:10.280 the jeep in four wal drive. I've never driven anything 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:12.280 for wald drive in my life. Yeah. So I bought 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:14.080 the jeep because I have this humongous hill that I 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:16.000 live on, and I knew one day I would ice ye. 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:18.280 So I bought the jeep off for the big build 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:20.680 up for this last weekend. And it were and I 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:22.360 tried to get up in a two well drive first, 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:24.720 and I thought, this is the least interesting story ever, 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:26.200 But in my heart, it feels good to tell this story. 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:29.040 I bought this jeep for this one thing, and so 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:31.200 I I put in two well drive and I tried 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:32.640 to get up the hill and it wouldn't go. I 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:36.920 was like, okay, good, good, good, good hard, And then 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:39.120 I put it in four well drive and just dominated 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:43.320 the hill and my my pecker got a little puffy sky. 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:45.680 It was good man. I loved it. And then um, 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:47.360 but just so, there are two sides of this hill 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:49.680 where I live and this side over here. I don't 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:51.480 know which side you came up on, but there are 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:53.400 cars that park on the side of the road, and 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:55.919 I've seen other cars fall and just do a nail 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:58.560 cars all the way down because you can't. Once you 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:00.800 start sliding, you're done. Almost saw it. I was. I 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:03.280 was working on my computer in the front of the 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:05.320 house and we've got a window there and there's people 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:07.520 were flying down on our street. It is completely covered. 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:10.160 It's insane. I live in East Nashville, so Gallatin is 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:12.320 like it looks like there was never snow, But at 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:14.519 my house on my street, it's completely covered. I could 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:16.840 ski down it. Some guy was cruising down and I 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:18.919 mean literally it was like fishtown and like going back, 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:20.960 and I thought he was gonna just wreck every car 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:22.960 on the street. But he made it out alive. But 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:26.240 I know that guy or or girl whoever was driving 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:27.919 that car when they pulled up, probably a guy. We're 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:30.639 reckless drivers brought up that stop side. I was like, yeah, 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:32.280 I got out of that one. That was good. Have 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:34.360 you ever been in a wreck? I have if I 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:37.360 broke my wrist in a wreck here actually in town. 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:40.560 It was you know the turnaround down by the convention center. Yes, 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:43.560 that's that's the round the circle. Yeah, you're round about. 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:45.760 It was ridiculous. I was coming around the thing and 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:47.400 a guy just pulls out right in front of me. 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:50.760 It was I'd still be driving my car. I had 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:52.760 the same car for like, you know, fifteen years, the 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:55.080 same one I moved down here with. And a guy 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:57.600 came out teebone me of course, no insurance, and I 0:03:57.680 --> 0:03:59.280 tried to turn the wheel and I broke my wrist. 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:02.200 It was turned it on reaction. I turned it on reaction. Yeah, 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:04.600 when the guy was pulling out, and it was kind 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:06.840 of like a blessing in disguise. I had never on 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:08.840 stage dropped the guitar before. I was always like the 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:12.520 guy who strump's underwhelming guitar chords on stage. But we 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:14.440 were on an acoustic tour. We were opening up for 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:16.560 Hunter Haze, and I was like, oh, we can't miss 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:18.440 these shows. We're getting like one hundred dollars a night. 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:20.320 We don't want to miss out on that money. And 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:23.480 we didn't cancel them. We had we hired a guitar player, 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:26.520 got insurance actually to cover for the guitar player to 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:28.480 come out because otherwise, I mean, I wouldn't be able 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:30.920 to work. So I was running around with a big 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:32.880 cast on and we're like, this is kind of cool, 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:34.960 Like we can entertain twice the amount of people in 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:36.640 the same amount of time if I don't have a guitar. 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:39.840 So next is a headset Mike m and that, by 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:42.960 the way, that guitar player also known as Eric Clapton, 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:45.279 that's how he got to start. It is exactly. It 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:48.040 was right before cream and then you know, it all happened. 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:51.560 It was insane, But I have a tea here, so oh, 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:53.440 I asked the right question because so when you came 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:55.840 in downstairs, my assistant is down there. She got into 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:58.440 a wreck today. Oh, someone pulled out in front of her. 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:01.880 Their side window was fully iced over and they couldn't 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:03.800 see and she's driving down the road. Oh yeah, they 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:05.560 pull out. There was no ice on the road, but 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:09.400 because the cars are cold pulled out and boom, no 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:12.640 way nailed each other. That's brutal. And so she all right, 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:14.400 I should get down and check on her. Yeah, yeah, 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:16.000 go down and check on her. Yeah she's good. Yeah, 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:17.680 I know she didn't have any talk for a minute. 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:20.120 But are you okay? Yeah, I just hurt. They're still 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:23.080 recording up there. Yeah. I just heard he had a rag. Yeah, 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:26.520 now her she has a SUV. It's completely smoosh. Dude, 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:29.240 that's brutal. It's crazy when you see metal like that 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:32.280 go and bend in ways that metal's not supposed to bend. 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:34.160 And then someone just walks out of there. And both 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:36.479 of them were okay, that's good. And it also was 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:40.520 it I don't know. Yeah, somewhere there are some I'm 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:42.440 about to throw throw our town under the bus. Here. 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:44.720 There are some bad drivers in Nashville. They are bad 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:47.880 drivers everywhere, It's true, but here is like especially worse. 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:49.919 I don't know what it is. I think it's a 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:53.320 combination of the Southern face and then a lot of transplants, 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:55.960 like the Southern pace, like crazy people like me who 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:57.800 come in from Pennsylvania and are like get out of 0:05:57.800 --> 0:05:59.440 the way, Get out of the way. That's like, let's 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:01.960 pass this guy, let's turn before the light, you know changes, 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:04.880 And that's funny. The Southern pace. Maybe that's just the 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:08.279 pace that I live my driving life because I've only 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:11.520 ever I went in Arkansas to Austin, which isn't really 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:13.040 the South, but it's still in the southern part of 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:16.119 the day to Nashville. Maybe I only know the Southern 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:18.240 pace because I've only lived in the South. I am 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:21.080 a slow driver, though I'm I've knocked on wood. I'm 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:22.520 gonna get a ticket on the way home. I've never 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:24.760 gotten a ticket in my entire life. I've gotten You've 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:27.560 never got a ticket. My parents or somebody must be 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:30.120 friends with the police or something, because I've gotten pulled 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:32.520 over like I don't know five or six times. So 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:34.200 we're gonna let you off with a warning. I'm always 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:36.120 like super polite to whenever they pulled me over. But 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:38.800 somebody out there listening is a police officer. They're like, 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:41.200 we're gonna get this guy's first ticket today. They're gonna 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:42.640 be looking for me. Yeah, I feel like calling one 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:44.360 and on you're on the way out, they call me 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:46.679 in I had a little to drink at the house. 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:49.520 Maybe maybe you want to check this guy out passion 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:51.919 for Lacroix. He's just that's what he's drinking. I was like, hey, 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:53.160 you want to water. You definitely want to water. We're 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:54.640 gonna go talk for now. He's like, I got a Lacroix. 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:59.400 Yow dude. So I'm I guess I'm interested in a 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:02.760 lot of this stuff that was you before Dan and Shay, 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:04.240 and I want to get to a lot of this, 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:06.839 especially now, and people will listen to this for years 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:08.960 because with podcasts you kind of look through and pick 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:11.400 things you like totally, and I think people will like 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:13.000 to see your name and listen to this. So I 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:14.400 want to get to are we gonna listen to as 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:17.240 Dan of Dan and Shay or Dan Smiers, Dan Dan Cool, 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:19.720 it'll get more hits. I'll listen however you want. We 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:22.320 can listen to mister Smiers and that's it. That's yeah, 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:26.880 I like that, mister Smiers. My dad Pennsylvania. Yes. So, 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:31.200 but when you've moved to town obviously, and people may 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:32.960 not know the story, and you've told on the air before, 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:35.040 but I'll have you retell it again. Just briefly, But 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:38.280 you met Shay Whah here I did, but you moved 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:40.680 here to do what. I moved here to be a 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:43.520 songwriter and producer. I moved here from Pennsylvania, and uh, 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:45.840 you know, I grew up listening to all kinds of music. 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:48.680 I love country music, and I couldn't afford LA or 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:50.240 New York even if I wanted to move there. So 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:52.840 I was like Nashville. When I moved here was twenty ten. 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:55.400 It was still affordable. Now it's getting a little out 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:57.840 of hand. But for anybody from LA or New York listening, 0:07:57.840 --> 0:08:00.520 they're like, Nashville is it's so to live there with 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:02.840 what everybody says, We guess that's so cheap. Yeah, and 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:06.200 everybody's so nice. But you moved here in twenty ten 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:08.280 to be a producer and a writer. Huh yeah. I 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:09.920 moved here with my buddy. We were kind of we 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:12.080 had actually like never really hung out in person. This 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:13.960 is kind of like this blind dating, let's moved to 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:16.560 Nashville together thing. He's like still one of my best friends, 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:19.120 was in my wedding, has a couple of cuts that 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:21.400 are going to be on our upcoming album, and he's 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:23.600 he's killing it now, but it wasn't like that for 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:25.920 a while, was it. His name is Andy Albert. He 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:27.640 would be an interesting guy to talk to as well. 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:30.400 Like he's crushing it as a songwriter. He's written a 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:32.559 few hits. He wrote She's Got Away with Words for 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:35.120 Blake Shelton, which was one of my favorite songs Blakes 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:38.280 put out. I think it ruffled a few feathers when 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:40.360 he put that song and not to side track, but 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:42.720 that was the only one of Blake songs to not 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:44.600 go number one. It was the first one of like 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:46.720 after thirteen in a row, because some people were irritated 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:48.600 the song. Yeah, he was bummed. There were a few 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:50.400 lyrics in there that were edgy, but it's cool. I mean, 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:52.439 Blake Shelton's that guy. He can put out edgy lyrics 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:54.319 like that, and I was so happy for him. We 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:58.280 had been like really struggling, so we moved here. We 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:01.440 had a mutual friend who his name is Rohan Colie. 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:05.319 He's now he's actually his wife's in labor like right now. 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:07.960 He's his kid, first kid. Yeah, and we're sitting like 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:10.520 trying to pick what songs we're going to record next week. Yeah, 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:13.160 he's crazy, but he put us together. He was like, 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:14.640 you guys are both trying to do the same thing. 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:16.560 You this dude Psylvania. Are you in this dude? Where 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:18.599 he was from Georgia? Yeah, he's from outside of it. 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:23.000 Didn't move together, you just got here at the same time, yeah, exactly. 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:25.680 So we we connected on you know, aim was still 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:27.880 a thing. You know, we had our screen ms. I 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:29.800 don't know what mine was, like Brandon BOYD two three 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:32.640 zero nine because I like than yeah, a huge fan 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:34.959 and uh he's over here laugh and making fun of him. 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:37.760 But uh, you know, we we kind of connected on 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:40.319 the internet. We were like, let's send some demos back 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:41.760 and forth, and we were like this could work. And 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:44.720 we moved to Nashville. Found this house on Craigslist. I 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:47.440 mean literally, this place was a disaster. There's no heat, 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:50.520 no AC. If there was, we couldn't afford to pay 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:51.839 for it, so we didn't even turn it on. In 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:54.520 the summer. It'd be like people are Everybody's like, here 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:56.520 a liar, you're exaggerating, But anybody who had been to 0:09:56.600 --> 0:09:58.480 that house was like, no, this is It was a 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:01.800 pretty bad place. Ninety degrees in the summer and forty 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:04.199 six in the winter. So we were struggling to get 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:06.199 by and we were just doing anything we could. Like 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:09.400 we would go I've got a few funny stories, but 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:12.160 we would go and do like taste testings and like 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:14.200 research groups. Do you know where those things are? Like 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:16.840 where here's twenty dollars you try on like ten Haynes 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:18.600 t shirts and get up in front of the crowd 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:21.320 and tell your thoughts. So we would do that or luckily, 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:23.160 like so you were doing that. Oh yeah, that's how 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:25.000 you guys would make the money. Honestly, I'm still on 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:27.000 those email lists and I'm like if if it's like 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:29.160 thirty dollars to go try some pizza, I'm like, yeah, 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:30.920 I'm gonna go do that. How would you get on 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:32.960 the list? So you would go to the place. It 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:36.160 was called Nashville twenty twenty Research and it was like 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:38.880 about off of Rosa Parks. So anybody out there like 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:41.240 struggling to make some money, struggling to get by, that's 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:42.920 where you go. And you get on these lists. You 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:45.600 do one trying to think we did one. We taste 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:48.520 tested a hard cider, which was pretty cool, and they 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:51.360 pay you because they want your feedback to either improve 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:54.280 the product or improve how they're marketing the product. Yeah, exactly. 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:55.959 So we would do pizzas. I mean, you know, we 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:58.240 would know that it was Domino's pizza, but they would say, 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:00.880 here's random pizza companies, so and so, give your thoughts 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:03.160 on this, and I would literally take boxes a pizza home. 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:06.679 It was insane. Another REDI broke. Oh dude, I can 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:08.720 go on for hours. This is this is crazy. So 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:11.280 there's a Hampton in across from Vanderbilt. You know that 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:14.320 Hampton in Like, uh, I don't know what's There's like 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:17.800 a Kidoba off at twenty first over there regardless as 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:20.200 a hotel, and there's a back parking lot. I would 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:22.640 go every single morning because I couldn't afford to eat anything. 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:24.440 I would go in the back parking lot. I would 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:27.480 intentionally wear sweatpants and like dress like I was actually 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:30.320 staying at this hotel, wait for somebody to walk out 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:32.600 of the back door to the parking lot, sneak in, 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:34.800 like hang in the bathroom for a second, then walk 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:38.280 in and eat Continental breakfast every single morning. Wow, I 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:40.160 had this whole plan in my head. Two people are like, 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:41.960 aren't you afraid you're gonna get caught if like the 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:44.640 Maids or somebody you know is like, hey, we saw 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:47.079 you the last six days. I was going to be like, 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:48.559 you know what, I'm in from out of town. I'm 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:50.640 a guitar tech for Zach Brown band and our tour 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:54.959 manager yeah yeah, and our tour manager is not here yet. 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:57.160 He told us, you know, when we arrive off the flight, 0:11:57.240 --> 0:11:58.959 just to go and grab a little breakfast and he's 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:01.400 gonna come check us in. And luckily it never happened. 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:03.280 Everybody was so sweet, They're like, hey, good to see 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:05.520 you again. You know, the extended stay at the Hanton 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:08.319 End and I would take like little boxes of rice 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:11.360 crispy treats, you know, back to the house and survive 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:13.839 all day off that. So it was. It was rough. 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:17.520 We also made fake cupons. I'm rambling right now. It's ridiculus. 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:19.600 I'm interested in this though. So you and him both 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:22.720 moved to town. Were you both broke? Oh? Yeah, it 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:26.160 was so. But what are you doing to make money 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:27.880 or not even make money? What are you doing to 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:33.439 make a progress creatively? We both, you know, came here 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:36.080 with probably like a couple hundred bucks in our pockets, 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:38.520 like nothing crazy, but you know, to pay whatever rent 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:40.200 we could for the first month. I mean literally our 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:44.120 rent was like one hundred or one hundred and fifty bucks, nothing, nothing, insane, 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:47.000 And I was producing demos. I you know, was doing 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:49.800 Logic then. I hadn't even like I couldn't afford pro tools. 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:52.160 I got a cracked version of Logic, which is, you know, 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:55.120 an illegal download, and I was just rocking on there. 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:56.600 Didn't really know what I was doing, but you know, 0:12:56.640 --> 0:12:59.360 writers and stuff would come to town or artists and 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:01.840 I'd produce a demo for him, literally like thirty dollars 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:04.480 a song. I was spending, like, you know, the same 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:07.000 amount of time I spend making our records now, like 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:09.959 weeks at a time doing songs and walk away with 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:11.679 thirty bucks. But hey, you do three or four of 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:13.840 those and you're paying your rent that month. So did 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:16.760 anyone back then did you work with anyone that has 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:20.640 done anything as far as made a name for himself 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:23.199 in any capacity I'm trying to think. I mean, I 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:25.600 knew Cassidy Pope. Cassidy Pope and I kind of came 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:27.200 from the same world. We had done like you know, 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:29.560 rock and pop kind of music in the past, and 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:32.400 we had a lot of mutual friends, so we like 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:34.880 wrote some songs together into demos and Cass is still 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:36.360 a good friend. You knew her before the boy, she 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:39.480 knew her from Hey Monday, Ye warped toward days. Yeah, 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:42.240 we had a lot of mutual friends, and I wrote 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:43.720 some songs. I got to dig back on the old 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:45.680 hard drive and see what I could can bring up. 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:47.840 I mean, you know who else played warp towards? Brandon Ray? 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:50.640 Did he really? Yeah? He has got the energy for it. 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:53.319 He has the greatest stories about going out and passing 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:55.679 out flyers and just try and he would play at 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:59.559 the eleven am. Dude, I've got warped Towards stories, so 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:01.520 I would go about who are you playing with them? 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:04.000 I had a band in high school called Transition, and 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:06.640 it was like a pop punk kind of I don't know, 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:09.560 just we believed singer I was. I was, and I 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:11.520 would I had like long emo hair and did the 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:13.440 whole thing. I had no idea. This is I'm gonna 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:15.880 send you some us tonight. You know you knew his 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:18.280 pop punk stuff? Have you? Oh? I have some here? 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:21.160 How about this? Here you go? This is a from 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:25.360 Transition called Excusable Oh, no, you gotta pulled up. Yeah, yeah, 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:31.640 I got that word. Every word we said, you have too. 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:34.960 That's that boy. That's I am so sad today. And 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:37.880 then you got my mama through my magazine Away. It's 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:39.920 so urgent too. It's like, right now, you gotta end 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:48.880 everything right now. Look at this use You guys were 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:51.080 the real deal. I was like fifteen years old on 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:55.240 a pole. Have you ever heard of the mic? Come on, 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:57.280 show that tattoo. You got the tattoo. You got my 0:14:57.320 --> 0:14:59.840 signature tattooed on your arm. That's so funny. How about 0:14:59.840 --> 0:15:01.960 this one? Were you in a bank called bona What's 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:03.920 what's this one? Yeah? That Bonaventure was the band that 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:06.000 my buddy Andy and I, who I moved here with 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:08.240 at the same time, started and we were trying to like, 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:10.600 do you started here? Yeah? We started it here at 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:13.120 that house in Nashville, and we let me hear this one. 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:15.840 Are you singing in this one? I'm not, I'm singing harmonies? Okay, 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:25.080 So he's singing this one, you're singing? This is a Bonaventure. 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:29.520 I think you're a better singer Thanice. Dude. Yeah, I 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:32.240 really enjoy your punk pop. Boy, that's a that's a 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:34.960 great pop punk boys. I've got some great pop punk 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:37.160 ideas floating around. We've got like a lot of buddies 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:39.720 who used to be in that scene, like our buddy 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:41.800 Paul d. Giovanni. He played guitar in a man called 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:44.600 Boys Like Girls. He wrote, he wrote our last number 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:46.600 one song how in a Minute? So, I mean we're 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:48.600 going there right now. I see Paul on Twitter all 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:51.760 the time. Yeah, pa'l BLG. I did not know that 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:53.760 he was a guitar player for Boys Like Girls. Yeah, 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:57.800 thats all handsome guy's huhne's bona. He wrote how Not 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:01.880 to our latest number one song, huh yeah, he wrote 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:03.680 did you write that with Adam him? He did? Yeah, 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:06.440 that's that's crazy to me. He was in that band. 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:09.600 He's dude. He's like the sickest. They call him track guys, 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:11.840 you know, and he's doing and he's producing Jordan Davis. 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:14.040 He's got that singles U Up song on the radio 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:16.320 right now. And I don't know. I mean, he's honestly 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:18.440 getting calls from guys left and right, like Keith Urban 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:20.640 or whoever, is like, hey, we need you to come 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:23.200 and make this awesome. And he's just crushing it. Did 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:26.080 you know Simple Plan? Hey? Yeah, dude, dude, they were 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:28.840 awesome to play their music. Holds up. They were ahead 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:32.280 of their time. They and they were Canadian I believe. Yeah, 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:33.920 they were a Canadian pot I used to play. They 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:35.400 used to play all of our radio shows back when 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:37.480 I was you know, and they're still doing radio shows. 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:40.360 I think maybe. Do you remember Bowling Pursuit? Hey? Yeah, Oh, 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:42.480 we were talking about them the other day, I said, 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:45.080 I pulled up on Spotify I was Bowling for Suit. 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:47.040 I was like, this is the coolest idea. And they 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:50.080 recorded Stacy's Mom and the album cover for the single 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:53.280 was because everyone because everyone thought we sang this song, 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:56.320 we actually sang the song, so they did Stacy's Mom. 0:16:56.720 --> 0:16:59.080 That's funny. I remember Jared Well, the lead singer of 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:03.000 Bowling Pursuit, Yeah, because he was from near Dallas, so 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:05.280 I knew him. But ninetety five was their big song. 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:06.960 Do you remember ninety five? It was Do you knew 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:09.000 that song was written by? It was written by this guy, 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:13.080 Mitch Allen, who also came from the pop punk world. 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:15.040 He was in a man called SR. Seventy one and 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:17.159 he's written like he wrote one to want Me for 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:19.399 Jason Derulo. He wrote like a bunch of hits for 0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:22.399 Demi Levado. It's crazy look at that. Yeah, here's nineteen 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:26.119 eighty five from Bow Length a Suit. This was a 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:29.800 for a pop punk song. It became a pretty big 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:34.160 pop song. Yeah, this was their biggest song. How about 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:36.199 how about you? And you sound good as a as 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:39.399 a punk singer. I've never heard you do straight ahead vocals. 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:41.720 You're all when I hear you, you're doing harmonies for 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:43.080 sche most of the time. Yeah, I like me in 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:45.240 the background guy. Now you do though? Yeah, being the 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:47.280 Dan of Dan and Shay, it's a little less pressure. 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:50.000 But your name's first though, two, so people would That's 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:51.440 another thing I want to talk about that. I just like, 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:53.840 how do you decide who goes first? Dan or Schetes 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:55.359 at a coin flip? Is there a fight with that 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:58.600 order of importance? Yeah, that's a right tight you know, 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:01.800 there's a lot of other things, you know, But how 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:03.760 did that? I don't know how that happened. Actually it 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:06.359 was we were when Shaye and I met. That's like 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:09.000 a lot later in the in the saga there, I 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:12.160 guess the Tragic Tale of Dan Smiers in Nashville. But uh, 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:14.879 whenever we would walk into publishing companies because we were 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:16.480 just trying to get a publishing deal, we were which 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:18.440 we just wanted to get paid write songs. Yeah. Yeah, 0:18:18.480 --> 0:18:19.840 we were like, we just want to write songs for 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:22.280 Rascal Flats or whoever. And we would walk in and 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:25.040 they'd like, Dana Cha's here again, Danna Shay. And then 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:27.560 when we became a band, we were searching for band 0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:30.720 names and we had some band names floating around for sure. 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:32.040 Let me read this because I want to I want 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:35.119 to get back to that. 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We were trying to make 0:20:35.680 --> 0:20:38.280 our decrepit old house look a little better. We found 0:20:38.320 --> 0:20:40.399 this painting and this thing was massive. I mean it 0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:43.680 was like six feet long, like eight feet highs big 0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:46.040 old canvas painting. And we're like, you know what, we 0:20:46.119 --> 0:20:48.359 should like lie about this on Craigslist and put it 0:20:48.480 --> 0:20:51.240 up and be like this is like a famous like painting. 0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:53.280 It's worth you know, fifteen hundred bucks or something like 0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:55.399 that and see if anybody bites. We put it up 0:20:55.440 --> 0:20:57.560 on Craigslist. I kid you not. Within like an hour, 0:20:57.720 --> 0:21:00.679 somebody hits back and it's like we want the painting, 0:21:01.080 --> 0:21:03.119 like can we email you? And we're like, oh my gosh, 0:21:03.280 --> 0:21:06.320 this is huge, this is massive. And they hit us 0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:08.080 back and they're like, but we want to pay you 0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:10.359 sixteen hundred. We want to pay you more than what 0:21:10.480 --> 0:21:12.520 we asked for. But it was like one of those 0:21:12.560 --> 0:21:14.560 situations where they try to scam you. You got to 0:21:14.920 --> 0:21:17.200 like send a check so they can cash it and 0:21:17.280 --> 0:21:19.439 do the whole thing. Or no, no, they they were 0:21:19.480 --> 0:21:21.200 trying to scam the scammer. They were trying to scam 0:21:21.280 --> 0:21:23.640 the scam. I'll dude, I've been scammed for years. Still 0:21:23.920 --> 0:21:25.520 did you get any money out of it? So they 0:21:25.600 --> 0:21:27.440 sent us a check and it was for like, I 0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:29.240 don't know, seventeen it was. It was more than what 0:21:29.320 --> 0:21:31.720 we asked for. It was a lot like in the thousands, 0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:33.680 and we took it to it. We didn't want to 0:21:33.680 --> 0:21:35.200 take it to our own bank because we were like 0:21:35.280 --> 0:21:37.600 this could be like we should try to get the 0:21:37.680 --> 0:21:39.159 cash quick, even if we have to pay like a 0:21:39.160 --> 0:21:41.520 low Commission. We took it to Advanced Financial, like one 0:21:41.560 --> 0:21:44.600 of those check cashing places on Nolan's Ville Road, and 0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:46.680 you know, it's like a glass window and you slip 0:21:46.760 --> 0:21:48.800 it through like you're paying at a gas station. And 0:21:49.359 --> 0:21:50.720 they look at the check and they looked at us 0:21:50.720 --> 0:21:53.440 and they're like, uh, we're gonna have to call the police. 0:21:53.520 --> 0:21:55.720 This is a fraudulent check. And we're like no, no, no, 0:21:55.920 --> 0:21:58.840 like seriously, we don't know what's happening. Like we just 0:21:58.880 --> 0:22:00.920 try to sell painting on Craig Exist this guy like 0:22:01.480 --> 0:22:04.199 and they're like, Okay, well you need to get out 0:22:04.200 --> 0:22:06.360 of here immediately because this is a FRAUDCT. I guess 0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:09.720 this person had done it before and h we sprinted 0:22:09.760 --> 0:22:12.960 out of the twenty dollar painting. No, we got the painting. 0:22:13.000 --> 0:22:14.879 We never sent the painting. We never said the painting. No, 0:22:15.119 --> 0:22:17.800 the whole issue. I don't know how this scam worked. 0:22:17.840 --> 0:22:20.640 We figured it out one time, but it was, yeah, 0:22:20.800 --> 0:22:22.840 it was we didn't what's what you deserved? You were 0:22:22.840 --> 0:22:25.480 trying to cheat and that it was a good painting. 0:22:25.520 --> 0:22:27.080 Though it looks pretty good. Do you still have it? 0:22:27.480 --> 0:22:29.840 He still has it, honestly still has it. It's funny, 0:22:29.960 --> 0:22:31.840 so you and him moving to this house, moving in 0:22:31.920 --> 0:22:35.200 this house, You're both what's he doing? You're out cutting 0:22:35.280 --> 0:22:38.359 demos for artists? Yeah, what's he doing kind of the 0:22:38.400 --> 0:22:40.440 same thing. You know, he was writing and just like 0:22:40.600 --> 0:22:43.000 scraping by on what he could. Were helping each other. 0:22:43.000 --> 0:22:45.560 We supportive of each other. Two guys living together. No, 0:22:45.680 --> 0:22:47.720 we were. We were working together, were writing songs together, 0:22:47.840 --> 0:22:50.280 and you know, putting We started putting the Bontomventre band 0:22:50.320 --> 0:22:52.280 together while we were down there, and we were like, 0:22:52.560 --> 0:22:54.359 you know, we had a little bit of stuff going on. 0:22:54.480 --> 0:22:56.280 We had connections, I guess from what we had done 0:22:56.320 --> 0:22:58.680 in the past and who we knew before we moved 0:22:58.720 --> 0:23:01.840 to Nashville, and we like we saved up our money 0:23:01.920 --> 0:23:03.719 or I don't know how we did, or like borrowed 0:23:03.760 --> 0:23:06.879 my dad's airline points and flew to New York one 0:23:06.960 --> 0:23:12.520 time and showcased for Mercury Records, this guy David as Bonaventure. 0:23:12.800 --> 0:23:14.679 So we were like, we didn't know whether we were 0:23:14.680 --> 0:23:17.240 obviously writing country songs, but we were just telling people 0:23:17.280 --> 0:23:19.920 whatever they wanted to hear. So this pop label like 0:23:20.560 --> 0:23:22.400 was like, yeah, come in and play for the President. 0:23:22.440 --> 0:23:25.040 I mean this guy signed like massive acts and we 0:23:25.160 --> 0:23:27.679 go up there. I have a banjo, five string banjo, 0:23:28.000 --> 0:23:30.680 and he had an acoustic guitar. This was before like 0:23:30.880 --> 0:23:33.800 the resurgence at the banjo and pop music happened, like 0:23:33.880 --> 0:23:36.840 Mumford and Sons and imagine Dragons put a mantle in 0:23:36.880 --> 0:23:39.480 in their pop track. This was like before that became cool. 0:23:39.920 --> 0:23:42.840 And I would walk into this New York office Mercury Records, 0:23:42.880 --> 0:23:46.000 and it's the two of us singing country songs and 0:23:46.080 --> 0:23:48.440 they're like, so, you guys want to sign it this 0:23:48.480 --> 0:23:52.440 pop label. Huh. We're like, yeah, we'll do anything you want, 0:23:52.760 --> 0:23:54.480 Like have you ever thought about being in a country act? 0:23:54.560 --> 0:23:57.240 And we're like no, no, absolutely, just telling them what 0:23:57.280 --> 0:23:59.000 they wanted to hear, what we thought they wanted to hear, 0:23:59.040 --> 0:24:01.560 and they're like cool, yeah, we'll be in touch. And 0:24:01.640 --> 0:24:03.679 we went back to Nashville. Nothing never came a bit. 0:24:03.800 --> 0:24:06.200 So did you guys break up the idea of Bonaventure 0:24:06.200 --> 0:24:09.040 after they didn't work? It was kind of not immediately there. 0:24:09.160 --> 0:24:11.560 We were kind of just fizzling out, like focusing a 0:24:11.600 --> 0:24:13.280 little more on the writing thing. We I mean, we'd 0:24:13.320 --> 0:24:15.320 been here for like four or five years before Shane 0:24:15.359 --> 0:24:18.040 and I met, and what was the big. I wouldn't 0:24:18.080 --> 0:24:20.159 even say break, but what was the pop for you? 0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:23.000 Where you go? Okay, I can at least relax a 0:24:23.240 --> 0:24:26.600 bit on rent. So when I signed my publishing deal 0:24:26.640 --> 0:24:29.479 to Warner Chapel, I had sixty three dollars in my account, 0:24:29.600 --> 0:24:32.399 like cold sixty three that I know that number for 0:24:32.440 --> 0:24:34.720 a fact. And I mean my rent that month was 0:24:34.720 --> 0:24:36.160 like one hundred and fifty. So I was I hadn't 0:24:36.200 --> 0:24:38.240 figured it out yet what I was going to do, 0:24:38.880 --> 0:24:40.639 but it was pretty nice. While we were like, you know, 0:24:40.760 --> 0:24:43.679 negotiating deals and with a record label and the publishing company, 0:24:43.720 --> 0:24:46.320 we would we would. There's this guy Alex Heddel, he 0:24:46.440 --> 0:24:49.360 run He's a big machine publishing. He still like gives 0:24:49.400 --> 0:24:51.480 me a hard time because he was like, we wanted 0:24:51.480 --> 0:24:54.440 to sign you guys, and you just like let us on. 0:24:54.640 --> 0:24:56.480 And we went out to soul Shine and spent like 0:24:56.680 --> 0:24:59.119 fifteen hundred dollars at the bar and like I'm like, no, 0:24:59.240 --> 0:25:00.720 we did. We went out one time and got a 0:25:00.760 --> 0:25:02.800 pizza and a beer. But we always give each other 0:25:02.800 --> 0:25:04.879 a hard time about it. So whenever you're doing that, 0:25:04.960 --> 0:25:06.840 if you're an artist out there and like you're you're 0:25:06.880 --> 0:25:09.320 being courted by labels. If they want to buy you 0:25:09.440 --> 0:25:11.560 a car, if they want to buy you, just take it. 0:25:12.000 --> 0:25:13.800 You know. It's funny. How I knew you guys first 0:25:13.880 --> 0:25:15.720 was not as friends who were trying to be artists. 0:25:15.840 --> 0:25:17.120 I don't think we had a deal at that point. 0:25:17.119 --> 0:25:19.879 You didn't have a deal. No, but that's not always 0:25:19.880 --> 0:25:22.880 like I had these friends. Then we were doing karaoke, yeah, 0:25:22.880 --> 0:25:24.720 and I was like Dan and Shay. She was like, 0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:29.800 it's Dan and Shay And I was like, we had demos. Yeah. 0:25:29.840 --> 0:25:33.200 I was like, okay, cool. The artist thing wasn't a thing. 0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:35.679 It was just not as friends, not as friends who 0:25:35.920 --> 0:25:39.159 like drank other people's beer and partied and yeah, this 0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:42.200 is crazy. I knew not a way back. I met her. 0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:45.920 She was working I think she was working for a 0:25:46.000 --> 0:25:48.000 pop station or doing she was for the River, Yes, 0:25:48.119 --> 0:25:50.800 for the River and Boys Like Girls who I know, 0:25:51.000 --> 0:25:53.560 and I'd go way back with those guys. They were 0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:56.200 still doing the band, and they came and played a show, 0:25:56.359 --> 0:25:58.680 a Christmas show, and I met Nada there. She was 0:25:58.720 --> 0:26:00.959 like doing promo for the station and they did an 0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:02.920 acoustic radio show and I was hanging with Paul and 0:26:03.000 --> 0:26:05.320 Martin from Boys Like Girls, and I met Nada and 0:26:05.480 --> 0:26:07.800 we became friends, and she'd been to that terrible house. 0:26:07.920 --> 0:26:10.280 She knows all about it. That's funny. I just think 0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:12.120 back because all these memories are hitting out, because that's 0:26:12.200 --> 0:26:14.600 right when I moved to town. Yep, is it right 0:26:14.600 --> 0:26:18.000 about the time you guys went on with Warner right 0:26:18.200 --> 0:26:20.760 and became a thing. But again, you weren't Dan and Shay. 0:26:20.840 --> 0:26:23.480 You were Dan and Shay. Yeah, two dude just to 0:26:23.600 --> 0:26:27.119 her friends. Still looking for a band name. Yeah, that's crazy. 0:26:27.160 --> 0:26:29.360 We were honestly under SoundCloud. I don't know. I hope 0:26:29.359 --> 0:26:31.280 it's private because somebody's gonna go out there and find it. 0:26:31.600 --> 0:26:34.679 We were on SoundCloud as Ragtop Red. That was our name. 0:26:34.760 --> 0:26:36.840 We were like big Tim McGraw fans and we're like, 0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:38.760 well we has red ragtop what if we like flip 0:26:38.840 --> 0:26:41.760 it Ragtop Red. There have been much Dummer names. There 0:26:41.880 --> 0:26:43.680 is one. We were in Austin, Texas. We did south 0:26:43.760 --> 0:26:47.240 By Southwest and we were down there. It was I 0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:50.240 don't remember exactly the timing of this. No, this was 0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:52.359 the first. We've done south By Southwest twice. The second 0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:54.240 time Justin Bieber came out on stage with us. It 0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:56.720 was a whole I remember that. I remember the whole thing. Yeah, 0:26:56.800 --> 0:26:58.880 that was crazy. The first time we did it, there's 0:26:58.880 --> 0:27:01.400 a picture of it. Was only we played a showcase 0:27:01.480 --> 0:27:04.240 and like Shay's lawyer at the time, this guy Jim's, I'mwalt, 0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:07.000 the man, great guy. He was like, come down to 0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:09.159 do this showcase and we can hang out. And we 0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:11.320 were like, this is awesome. You know. We went down 0:27:11.359 --> 0:27:14.480 and there was literally three people in the crowd. My lawyer, 0:27:14.880 --> 0:27:18.200 Jonathan He's the man, Jim's I'mwalt, and Paul d. Giovanni, 0:27:18.240 --> 0:27:20.440 the guy boys like girls keeps coming up in this situation. 0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:21.960 I don't know why he was there. I think he 0:27:22.080 --> 0:27:24.160 was just I think the band was on a break 0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:26.120 or something at that point and he was just hanging out. 0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:28.399 He was literally standing in the crowd and there's We 0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:31.800 watched this the other night. We were cutting together videos 0:27:31.840 --> 0:27:34.080 for Tequila, and my buddy Pete Tracy, who does like 0:27:34.160 --> 0:27:36.919 all our content, he found a video that somebody had 0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:39.480 taken and it was showed us like rocking on stage. 0:27:39.520 --> 0:27:41.840 I'm wearing like a Boston Red Sox hat and we're 0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:44.399 dancing around like we got something going on, and he 0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:46.840 zooms out. Literally, no one in the crowd. It was 0:27:46.880 --> 0:27:50.280 so embarrassing, But what was your name? So we go 0:27:50.359 --> 0:27:53.720 to p F Changs after that little showcase and Zombie's like, 0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:55.960 you guys are poised to be the next big stars, 0:27:56.040 --> 0:27:57.880 Like whatever, we need to come up with a name. 0:27:58.000 --> 0:28:00.600 So he's got his little iPad. We're sitting at the 0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:03.240 roundtable in the corner PF Chains in Austin, and he's like, 0:28:03.440 --> 0:28:05.320 I got it, and we're sitting there like you might 0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:07.640 have it. This is awesome, let's hear him out. He's 0:28:07.680 --> 0:28:09.560 like not showing us. He's like got a big surprise, 0:28:09.600 --> 0:28:11.720 and he's typing it out on this little iPad and 0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:13.879 he flips it around. And his big pitch to us 0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:16.240 was that the name should be schools Out. Oh you 0:28:16.320 --> 0:28:19.040 told me this school schools Out. Yeah. So, like, if 0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:21.200 we ever get big like Dirk's Bentley or something and 0:28:21.280 --> 0:28:27.920 can do the you know, country, that's funny. I remember that. Man. 0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:31.880 It's so funny because I think of you guys as 0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:34.320 part of my memory when I first got to town, 0:28:34.880 --> 0:28:36.639 because you guys were being a thing right when I 0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:39.880 whatever I was being and whatever I am, I started 0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:41.760 to be a thing right when you guys were being 0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:43.800 a thing. At the same time, people hated all of us. 0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:46.080 All of us. They we were ruining country music and 0:28:46.160 --> 0:28:48.520 still are, by the way, we're still running country music. 0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:52.160 It's a very vocal minority. It's it's insane, it's it's 0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:54.160 I've never seen anything like it. I was talking to 0:28:55.040 --> 0:28:56.760 someone that I do business with the other day and 0:28:57.200 --> 0:29:00.920 we were talking about the people that let's country music, sure, 0:29:01.200 --> 0:29:03.240 And I said, you can't pay attention to the people 0:29:03.480 --> 0:29:05.760 that talk to you about it, right, because the people 0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:09.600 they're satisfied and love it. They quiet, they just love it, 0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:12.200 and they consume what they like of it. They don't 0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:14.080 complain about what they don't. They just go to what 0:29:14.160 --> 0:29:16.600 they like. Yep. The people that are the ones going 0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:20.120 this sucks that ain't country, they're out there. Yeah, but 0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:24.400 they're the loudest and they're a very select minority group. 0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:27.160 They're aggressive too, man, they mean, yeah, they're every once 0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:28.480 in a while when I want to like get into 0:29:28.560 --> 0:29:30.760 it on Twitters, I shouldn't do this. Oh like search 0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:35.000 Dan plus Shay not country, you know. And there's some 0:29:35.120 --> 0:29:38.080 like really vulgar stuff in there, like really aggressive. It's like, 0:29:39.000 --> 0:29:40.640 if you don't want to listen to our music. Just 0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:45.240 don't listen. Nobody's forcing anyone to do anything with anything creative. Yeah. Period, 0:29:45.440 --> 0:29:48.960 It's crazy. It And at this point in my career, 0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:53.400 I've always been hated because again by a vocal minority, 0:29:53.440 --> 0:29:56.240 because when I was doing pop, I was too country. Sure, 0:29:56.640 --> 0:29:58.960 when I do country, I'm too pop. When I was 0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:01.360 doing alternative, I had too much of a Southern accent. 0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:04.440 When I was doing sports, I'd never been a professional athlete, right, 0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:07.120 I just can't win. I've never fit anywhere. But it's 0:30:07.360 --> 0:30:10.760 thickened my skin so much. But it's also made me 0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:14.160 more like the people that actually consume totally. And that's 0:30:14.200 --> 0:30:16.680 been what was to me the hardest thing in the 0:30:16.720 --> 0:30:19.840 biggest obstacle was oh I'm never fitting. I actually fit 0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:23.600 exactly with the people that are consuming it. They just 0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:27.480 don't scream. Yeah, it's great. It's interesting you say that. 0:30:27.560 --> 0:30:29.760 Do you ever like, are you impacted more by the 0:30:29.840 --> 0:30:32.680 haters than like there'll be I talked to Thomas Rhett 0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:34.440 about this all the time, and his dad always is 0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:36.760 like Thomas, he gets so bent out of shape about 0:30:36.800 --> 0:30:40.200 the people on Twitter, Thomas Rhett, and he'll hit people back. 0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:41.760 I see it on as he has so many followers 0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:45.719 on Instagram. He's got millions and millions of people saying, Thomas, 0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:48.760 You're the greatest artist I've ever heard. I like have 0:30:48.880 --> 0:30:51.680 your lyrics tattooed on myself. And then one guy comes 0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:53.960 on there and it's like, why are you wearing those jeans? 0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:56.760 You look like whatever, you know, and your music's not country. 0:30:57.080 --> 0:30:59.080 He'll reply to him and he'll hit him back and like, 0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:01.720 but you just girl past I love your song. I 0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:03.480 love your song. You guys are amazing. The show is 0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:05.960 amazing night. Then there's one hater out there. It's like 0:31:06.520 --> 0:31:09.320 nice haircuts, whatever, and it's like, oh, I'm gonna get 0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:11.840 that guy. I'm gonna get that guy. You know. I 0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:15.160 was talking to Kip More about this, and Kip More 0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:16.920 and I had the same management, yep, and we were 0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:19.920 sitting in a room and he was talking about at 0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:24.040 times he can be upset by people not enjoying the show. 0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:26.360 He could say, there, let's say nine percent people are 0:31:26.400 --> 0:31:28.040 just rocking out, and it keeps intense, and you talk 0:31:28.040 --> 0:31:31.200 about some loves his art, Yep, that's it keeps like, Man, 0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:35.080 I have everybody going, but the one person, I'm one person. 0:31:35.120 --> 0:31:37.400 I'll focus on is the guy who's just looking at 0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:39.120 the ground, and I'm like, how do I win him over? 0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:41.640 And I can't win him over him and he says, 0:31:42.040 --> 0:31:45.080 what do you do so well? When I do stand up? Well? 0:31:45.200 --> 0:31:48.200 I also like to read about really good, famous people. Sure, 0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:51.280 I'm a B minus comic. I'm funny if you want 0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:52.520 to come to the show. But I'm nothing like this. 0:31:52.960 --> 0:31:54.720 I'm nothing like the people that are really good, like 0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:57.160 it's their profession. I'm a really good radio host. Yeah, 0:31:57.240 --> 0:32:01.080 I'm an okay comic. But Steve is one of my heroes. 0:32:01.440 --> 0:32:03.600 And before I was born in the eighties, so I 0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:06.360 didn't really get to experience Steve Martin as when he 0:32:06.520 --> 0:32:10.520 was new and it was groundbreak. Sure, but he would say, 0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:12.520 watch the top of their heads, don't watch their faces, 0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:16.760 because everybody experiences joy differently, and you're you're projecting how 0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:20.320 you experienced joy on them, and if they're not experiencing 0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:22.800 joy how you experienced joy, you think, oh, they're not 0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:25.920 enjoying it. Yeah. So we had that conversation, and then 0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:27.840 we talked about why we get effected so much by 0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:30.080 when someone says something bad about us, right, and I 0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:31.800 tried to go, you know, what. I'm better than that, 0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:34.680 and I don't let it get to me. But it's 0:32:34.720 --> 0:32:37.080 so hard. I keep myself the same reason I'll keep 0:32:37.480 --> 0:32:41.080 sweets my refrigerator. I don't go to Facebook. Yeah, the 0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:44.240 show Facebook because it's people that a lot of people 0:32:44.280 --> 0:32:47.240 that are just angry, and I can't. It drives me 0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:49.360 so crazy. I just know that's my weakness. Yeah, and 0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:52.920 it hurts my feelings. And I'm a sensitive artist. It's tough, dude. 0:32:53.280 --> 0:32:56.000 We are we are And honestly, we played a show 0:32:56.040 --> 0:32:58.160 with Kip Moret. I hope Kid doesn't he because he'll 0:32:58.240 --> 0:32:59.400 kill me. You know, he wants to put off the 0:32:59.440 --> 0:33:02.320 tough guy. He's sensitive guy. He's like in touch with 0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:04.360 his feelings and his emotions. I mean you could hear 0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:06.840 it in his music as an incredible songwriter. Play this 0:33:07.360 --> 0:33:10.680 thing called the Pepsi Golf Coast Jam. I believe whoever 0:33:10.720 --> 0:33:12.440 hears this is not gonnaver book us there again. But 0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:14.880 it was. It was an interesting show. It was like 0:33:15.080 --> 0:33:17.360 I blame the fact that it was insanely hot. It 0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:19.720 was like one hundred and ten degrees outside. It was 0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:23.000 in Florida, and Kip had just gotten off stage and 0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:25.440 we run the bus. He's like pounding on our bus store. 0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:27.800 He's like, boys, let me come up there and hang out. 0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:30.000 And he's like he was so bummed about there was 0:33:30.040 --> 0:33:32.200 like the crowd was we saw his show. People were 0:33:32.240 --> 0:33:34.360 throwing beach balls around and like they were for the 0:33:34.400 --> 0:33:36.160 most part having a good time. But it was hot 0:33:36.200 --> 0:33:37.880 and it was late in the day. You know, it's 0:33:37.960 --> 0:33:40.360 probably seven thirty or eight at night, and they were 0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:42.160 like a couple of guys down in the front row 0:33:42.280 --> 0:33:44.200 or in the pit who were probably drunk or hungover, 0:33:44.320 --> 0:33:46.200 and they were giving him a hard time and he 0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:48.720 was like, a bad it. I'm done with this, Like 0:33:48.760 --> 0:33:51.560 I'm never playing. We're like sor right. We talked it out, 0:33:51.800 --> 0:33:53.480 but he was emotional about it, and yeah, he's a 0:33:53.600 --> 0:33:57.320 passionate guy. That's awesome. Though his true fans like can 0:33:57.440 --> 0:33:59.360 feel that he believes for his art and it's like 0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:02.000 that's why heard he has die hard fans and he's 0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:04.160 die hard and I kept and I got into a 0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:07.760 huge blow up one time because I go, well, I'm 0:34:07.800 --> 0:34:10.839 commentating on what's happening, good or bad. I've at one 0:34:10.920 --> 0:34:12.840 point made friends and enemies at the same time of 0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:15.239 every single artist's just about because where I've said I've 0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:17.040 really enjoyed them, I've also said things I don't like 0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:19.920 about them, just because if I say enough things, eventually 0:34:19.960 --> 0:34:21.560 they're all not going to be great, of course, so 0:34:21.760 --> 0:34:23.880 and I can't worry about that. And at times it 0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:26.399 makes an awkward in town, but then again it comes 0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:28.560 back around and we're cool, and then we're not cool again. 0:34:29.600 --> 0:34:31.560 But with Kip, one time I said, Kip, you gotta 0:34:31.600 --> 0:34:33.319 relax on the cell phones. This is me talking over 0:34:33.360 --> 0:34:35.360 the air. Stop yelling at people with their cell phones. 0:34:35.400 --> 0:34:38.920 Everybody uses their phones now. Hear the selfie song or whatever. Yes, Yeah, 0:34:39.040 --> 0:34:43.439 but he got so pissed at me and we ended 0:34:43.520 --> 0:34:45.800 up three months later after we just wouldn't refuse to 0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:48.320 talk to each other, going to breakfast right for like 0:34:48.480 --> 0:34:51.480 three hours, we just talked it out. Yeah, and there 0:34:51.560 --> 0:34:54.360 was an understanding that we're both super sensitive in different 0:34:54.400 --> 0:34:58.080 ways totally, and we're not on the same exact wavelength, 0:34:58.160 --> 0:35:00.680 but we're absolutely on the same highway for sure. And 0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:04.440 since then it's been fantastic. That's awesome. He is. It'll 0:35:04.480 --> 0:35:06.120 shoot you straight, and I'll still make fun of him 0:35:06.160 --> 0:35:08.239 if I need to. He sent me a video I 0:35:08.320 --> 0:35:10.840 went to Hawaiian. I don't know how to you know, 0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:13.560 and I told you this, I don't know how to serve. 0:35:13.600 --> 0:35:15.719 I don't know how to do any of the water stuff. 0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:18.480 You know. Never grew up around wavy water. I only 0:35:18.520 --> 0:35:20.759 grew up around lake water. Right, So I could have 0:35:20.920 --> 0:35:23.480 supposed to be a paddle stand up paddle boarding, and 0:35:24.360 --> 0:35:26.040 you'd take that strap and you put it on your ankle. 0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:27.760 But I put it on my wrist because I'm an idiot. 0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:30.080 I thought you FoST put on your wrist. Yeah, And 0:35:30.239 --> 0:35:32.359 so I talk about the story I actually talked about 0:35:32.400 --> 0:35:33.719 with you guys when you came on the show and 0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:36.000 kept heard that segment. And he sends me a video 0:35:36.040 --> 0:35:39.040 of just him over and over strapping. I think to 0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:41.400 his like, that's all the video was with him strapping 0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:44.560 himself to a board, over and a. Yeah, he keeps 0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:46.600 a passionate dude. And I like Kip. Yeah, I like 0:35:46.719 --> 0:35:48.759 him too. He is a good guy. Okay, well let's 0:35:48.800 --> 0:35:51.919 get back to this. 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Well, that's interesting. 0:37:24.920 --> 0:37:27.120 It uses the iPhone x is true depth camera to 0:37:27.200 --> 0:37:30.120 map and measure key facial features. Yeah, I need that 0:37:30.120 --> 0:37:31.880 to see if I'm ugly. I can do that even 0:37:31.920 --> 0:37:35.640 for not the glasses U warwy Parker dot com slash Bobby. 0:37:35.680 --> 0:37:37.840 If you're a glass is aware, just go to Warwyparker 0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:41.279 dot com slash Bobby. That's a pleasant treat having morew 0:37:41.400 --> 0:37:44.000 Parker back. This podcast has gotten so big and we 0:37:44.200 --> 0:37:48.600 never expected it. It's amazing. Dude, it's killing it, I guess. 0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:51.320 But look, it's this equipment. This is equipment that I 0:37:51.480 --> 0:37:53.440 just bought. It might put it together. This is not 0:37:53.520 --> 0:37:56.440 even a real studio. And now we have two million subscribers. 0:37:56.480 --> 0:38:00.520 It's it's absolutely insane. Cool. Okay, So here we are. 0:38:00.640 --> 0:38:01.600 And by the way, I've tried to get you in 0:38:01.719 --> 0:38:03.600 for months and either you could do it and I couldn't. 0:38:03.640 --> 0:38:05.040 R I could do it and you couldn't, and finally 0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:06.480 we got it. We're here and we're hanging I like it. 0:38:06.560 --> 0:38:10.040 Thanks for having me. Man um story is so ridiculous. No, No, 0:38:10.120 --> 0:38:11.640 over the point, I didn't know some of this, and 0:38:11.800 --> 0:38:14.319 a lot of times I know everything. I'm gonna I'm 0:38:14.320 --> 0:38:16.520 gonna keep giving lessons to all the struggling artists out 0:38:16.560 --> 0:38:18.360 there or trying to get by. So we had like 0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:21.880 Microsoft paint on our computers or like some some iteration 0:38:22.000 --> 0:38:24.480 of it, and we would make we're scammers. We made 0:38:24.520 --> 0:38:26.160 like fake cupons, or we would find a cup on 0:38:26.200 --> 0:38:27.879 that it was expired and we would change the date, 0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:30.279 and then we would go to CC's Pizza. You know, 0:38:30.360 --> 0:38:34.080 CC's amazing, so good. CC's like two ninety nine buffet 0:38:34.280 --> 0:38:36.359 it's four ninety nine, which was out of our price range. 0:38:36.560 --> 0:38:38.040 So what we did is we made it like buy 0:38:38.080 --> 0:38:39.880 one gate one free SCS because when you're in like 0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:42.799 the two fifty range, it's like it's okay. Not only 0:38:42.880 --> 0:38:45.359 did we do that, we would go with the CCS buy. 0:38:45.400 --> 0:38:47.759 Our house would close at nine pm. We'd go at 0:38:47.800 --> 0:38:50.080 eight forty, and we would order two pizzas like custom 0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:52.759 we back in mac and cheese and Buffalo chicken or 0:38:52.760 --> 0:38:55.319 something like that, pizzas right off the front, and they'd 0:38:55.360 --> 0:38:56.719 be like cool, and they'd make them up and then 0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:59.200 we'd be sitting in there and then they'd be like, gentlemen, 0:38:59.400 --> 0:39:01.400 we're about to close the store. And we'd be like, 0:39:02.040 --> 0:39:03.799 what are all those pizzas up on the thing? Are 0:39:03.840 --> 0:39:05.919 you guys throwing those away? And they'd be like, yeah, 0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:07.520 we have to take him to the dumpster. And we're like, 0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:09.759 if we meet you out back, could we take the 0:39:09.840 --> 0:39:12.080 leftover pizzas? And I mean the people working in CC's 0:39:12.120 --> 0:39:14.759 were like sure, we don't care. Sure enough. We'd walk 0:39:14.800 --> 0:39:16.560 around the back of the place with the two custom 0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:18.880 pieces that we had just had made, and then we 0:39:18.920 --> 0:39:21.319 would get the like the pizzas they were throwing away, 0:39:21.360 --> 0:39:23.360 and we would literally eat off this pizza for like 0:39:23.880 --> 0:39:26.960 six weeks at a time, and as it became not 0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:29.280 really edible anymore, we would put it on the grill 0:39:29.360 --> 0:39:33.560 out back. It was dark times. So what did your 0:39:33.600 --> 0:39:36.799 parents do? My dad's a chemical engineer, he was. He's 0:39:36.840 --> 0:39:41.160 retired now. He coaches middle school soccer now really yeah? Yeah? 0:39:41.239 --> 0:39:43.680 So was he a soccer player? He was? He played 0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:48.319 in college? And were you an athlete? Yeah? I don't 0:39:48.320 --> 0:39:50.759 mind me noticing you're built like an athlete. Man. Yeah, 0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:53.040 maybe that speedo I wore in here is a bad choice. 0:39:53.520 --> 0:39:56.320 Uh yeah, So I played football for a year in college. 0:39:56.360 --> 0:39:58.399 I went, that's like the weird thing about what I'm 0:39:58.400 --> 0:40:01.120 doing because I graduated from college from a great school. 0:40:01.120 --> 0:40:03.560 I graduated from Karnegie Mellon in Pittsburgh, Which is I'm 0:40:03.640 --> 0:40:07.120 playing that theater Karnegie Theater. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's amazing, 0:40:07.239 --> 0:40:10.359 it's beautiful. That's not. Colby kel A play there one 0:40:10.400 --> 0:40:13.480 time and Jimmy E World in the Pop Bung days. 0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:16.239 It was killed her. I love Colby kel A so good. 0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:19.719 She came through. We went to lunch one time. I 0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:21.600 don't think it was a date, could have been. It 0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:23.760 could have been a date though. Yeah, but she played 0:40:23.920 --> 0:40:26.080 and Amy would know the real story because she's yeah, 0:40:26.080 --> 0:40:28.080 it doesn't matter, it's that's for a different day. Yeah, 0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:30.759 I need to hear this story that. Yeah, I need 0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:32.360 I need to make sure it's right though before I 0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:34.080 say it, I need to I need to get you know, 0:40:34.160 --> 0:40:35.719 it's been so long. You want to talk to the 0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:37.560 people that were also experiencing it with you to make 0:40:37.600 --> 0:40:40.080 sure it didn't turn into some fantasy in my head. Yeah. Yeah, 0:40:40.239 --> 0:40:42.239 so all these stories are now that we're talking, all 0:40:42.280 --> 0:40:44.080 these like crazy stories I have when I'm of here 0:40:44.120 --> 0:40:45.799 coming back. I got another good one on deck here 0:40:45.800 --> 0:40:49.200 in a few minutes. Whenever you played for one high school, 0:40:49.200 --> 0:40:50.759 what would you play a position to play? I played 0:40:50.840 --> 0:40:53.480 running back, so I actually was touring through high school, 0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:56.000 so I and then I I played all growing up, 0:40:56.080 --> 0:40:59.000 and then like the band, the Transition band started sort 0:40:59.000 --> 0:41:01.040 of happening a little bit. We were touring on weekends, 0:41:01.040 --> 0:41:03.799 and then my parents like they hated me. We had 0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:05.680 kind of a weird falling out when I was in 0:41:05.800 --> 0:41:08.240 high school because they were like, you're so good at sports, 0:41:08.280 --> 0:41:10.719 you should play sports, and I was like, screw your 0:41:10.760 --> 0:41:12.719 mom and dad. I'm playing music like I want to, 0:41:12.840 --> 0:41:14.960 like drop out of high school and go on the 0:41:15.000 --> 0:41:17.759 Warp Tour, which I wasn't even invited. On the Wark Tour, 0:41:17.800 --> 0:41:19.640 we would show up and we would build the stages. 0:41:19.680 --> 0:41:22.080 There was like the Kevin Says Stage. Kevin Lyman, who 0:41:22.160 --> 0:41:24.560 ran the Warp tour, had this thing called Kevin Says 0:41:24.600 --> 0:41:26.600 Stage and it would just be new and upcoming artists 0:41:26.920 --> 0:41:28.800 get up at six in the morning every day, you know, 0:41:29.040 --> 0:41:30.800 Lee put in like trusts and pipes and all that 0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:33.800 stuff together and build the stage and like two of 0:41:33.840 --> 0:41:35.239 the acts would get to play. So there would be 0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:37.239 days we'd build the whole stage right to stage down 0:41:37.280 --> 0:41:39.160 and not even get to play. We were Wow, it's 0:41:39.160 --> 0:41:40.920 like an open mic here in Nashville. Show up, but 0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:42.719 maybe you get on maybe, but you had to drive 0:41:42.760 --> 0:41:44.800 the van from city to city. So I bet a 0:41:44.840 --> 0:41:47.360 lot of people did that. You know, you're all so 0:41:47.560 --> 0:41:49.880 young at the time, and I was like, this is awesome. Yes, 0:41:50.120 --> 0:41:52.520 that's how I feel when I was seventeen eighteen nineteen 0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:56.400 radio going to school full time, taking twenty hours broke 0:41:56.440 --> 0:41:58.560 as a joke. Yeah, it was I think the happiest 0:41:58.600 --> 0:42:01.440 time in my life, totally much happier than now because 0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:03.920 I've I've now put all these problems into my head 0:42:03.920 --> 0:42:08.480 that really don't don't matter, and money's like it absolutely unfortunately, 0:42:08.560 --> 0:42:10.920 it's the reality of what we do. I mean, I 0:42:11.040 --> 0:42:12.920 wish I could just like write a million songs and 0:42:13.080 --> 0:42:14.800 just chill, but like we have to go out and 0:42:15.440 --> 0:42:18.400 play shows and you know, travel through the night or 0:42:18.480 --> 0:42:20.640 take red eye fights to play shows, like because we 0:42:20.760 --> 0:42:22.680 have bills to pay, and we have to pay our 0:42:22.719 --> 0:42:23.799 band and we have to you know what I mean. 0:42:23.920 --> 0:42:28.440 There's not even hard compared to what normal people like 0:42:28.560 --> 0:42:30.839 my step dad worked at the sawmill. Yeah, every day, 0:42:30.880 --> 0:42:34.160 hated it. That was hard work. Absolutely, what we do 0:42:34.320 --> 0:42:36.920 is not hard work. No, it's not. We spent a 0:42:36.960 --> 0:42:41.360 lot of time creatively competing against other people. It's exhausting. 0:42:41.440 --> 0:42:46.279 Sometimes we can still be mentally exhausted and physically without sleep. Sure, 0:42:47.400 --> 0:42:50.279 but when I was grinding it and actually doing the work, 0:42:51.040 --> 0:42:53.239 when I was getting paid, I was so happy because 0:42:53.280 --> 0:42:55.919 I didn't know any better, and money wasn't a problem 0:42:55.960 --> 0:42:58.080 because I never had there was an option of any Yeah, 0:42:58.200 --> 0:43:00.640 there was no option of money, so I just enjoyed 0:43:00.680 --> 0:43:03.359 the art. I agree with you that that's that's so true. 0:43:03.600 --> 0:43:05.399 But yeah, we were we were grinding. We had nothing, 0:43:05.440 --> 0:43:07.239 we were not getting paid. We're doing these shows and 0:43:07.920 --> 0:43:09.839 like we would have a CD or a demo, we'd 0:43:09.840 --> 0:43:11.320 be selling them to the line. You know, I have 0:43:11.400 --> 0:43:13.200 the whole pitch down. I had like a little headphone 0:43:13.239 --> 0:43:15.440 set and it's like you guys like fall out Boy 0:43:15.480 --> 0:43:17.320 and they're like no, we like like hard stuff like 0:43:17.400 --> 0:43:20.280 No Effects or something. We'd like, you're gonna love our stuff. 0:43:20.440 --> 0:43:22.279 And it was otherwise, you know, we'd be like you 0:43:22.400 --> 0:43:24.080 like no Effects, are like no, we like pop music 0:43:24.160 --> 0:43:25.839 like fallut Boy would be like you're gonna love our 0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:29.479 you and we would like sell CDs for five bucks 0:43:29.560 --> 0:43:31.320 to get to the next city, and that's just what 0:43:31.440 --> 0:43:33.520 people buy them. They would, yeah, they would. I mean 0:43:33.560 --> 0:43:35.560 people were generous. I don't know if that still is 0:43:35.560 --> 0:43:39.360 a thing, but I mean that hustle, Like all the 0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:41.319 guys in our band and our touring crew came from 0:43:41.400 --> 0:43:43.480 that world. So we all kind of have that mentality. 0:43:43.880 --> 0:43:45.759 And I you know, we have an amazing team around 0:43:45.840 --> 0:43:48.279 us now, We've got amazing connections at country radio and 0:43:48.360 --> 0:43:50.759 we have amazing fans. But I try to still keep 0:43:50.800 --> 0:43:52.960 that mentality with what I do. You know, here in Nashville, 0:43:53.000 --> 0:43:55.080 it's like people like, why are you doing so many 0:43:55.160 --> 0:43:58.680 things or writing all these songs or applying to fans 0:43:58.719 --> 0:44:00.840 on social media and stuff. But it's just what I 0:44:01.000 --> 0:44:02.480 what I'm used to, what I came up on, and 0:44:02.560 --> 0:44:04.400 it's I mean, now we've got more of a platform, 0:44:04.480 --> 0:44:06.800 there are more fans that will come to the shows, 0:44:06.880 --> 0:44:08.800 you know, without me begging them to come to the shows. 0:44:09.080 --> 0:44:11.120 But I try to keep that same mentality. If I 0:44:11.200 --> 0:44:12.920 work as hard as I did when I was building 0:44:13.000 --> 0:44:16.320 stages at Warp Tour, We're gonna have a lot of success. 0:44:16.440 --> 0:44:18.400 You know. You know that there's a parallel that I 0:44:18.480 --> 0:44:21.279 see between we were talking about Kit, between Kip and 0:44:22.160 --> 0:44:25.400 you and Shay in that you have very passionate fans. 0:44:25.600 --> 0:44:33.160 Oh yeah, and you guys grind the road hard, harder 0:44:33.200 --> 0:44:34.560 than people give you credit for it. But you know what, 0:44:34.600 --> 0:44:38.080 you're not looking for credit. So it's a weird thing 0:44:38.120 --> 0:44:39.520 to say that people don't give you credit for it 0:44:39.520 --> 0:44:41.760 because you're not looking for the credit. But you, guys, 0:44:42.160 --> 0:44:44.160 just from knowing what it's like to tour, because I 0:44:44.200 --> 0:44:46.759 do a little myself can buy and seeing you guys 0:44:46.800 --> 0:44:48.840 all out, you're on the road a lot more than 0:44:48.960 --> 0:44:52.200 the normal country act. Yeah, we are. We did I 0:44:52.200 --> 0:44:54.359 think one hundred and seventy three shows last year, which 0:44:54.520 --> 0:44:57.239 and just to compare, most people to do weekends. Yeah, 0:44:57.880 --> 0:45:00.279 most like the bigger acts will do eighty five shows 0:45:00.320 --> 0:45:02.560 a year. Then that's a big touring here. But and 0:45:02.719 --> 0:45:06.400 we try to. I'm you know, we're with CIA, our agency, 0:45:06.480 --> 0:45:08.040 And when we met for the first time, I was like, 0:45:08.480 --> 0:45:10.439 I come from the you know, the world of Warped 0:45:10.440 --> 0:45:13.920 tour where you're playing five six nights a week. Like now, 0:45:14.000 --> 0:45:16.080 I like the country thing. I like doing three nights 0:45:16.120 --> 0:45:18.120 and then coming back to Nashville and resetting the years. 0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:20.239 But we were like, let's just tour like a rock band. 0:45:20.320 --> 0:45:22.200 Let's go out and do We don't need to just 0:45:22.280 --> 0:45:24.480 play Friday and Saturday night. We can play a Tuesday 0:45:24.520 --> 0:45:26.440 night or Wednesday night if you're playing clubs or House 0:45:26.480 --> 0:45:28.640 of Blues or whatever. It is. Like we were grinding 0:45:28.680 --> 0:45:30.360 playing every night. We're still doing that. I mean, we 0:45:30.440 --> 0:45:32.799 would go even when we're on tour. We're on tour 0:45:32.840 --> 0:45:35.080 with the Flats this summer, but we're booking our own 0:45:35.120 --> 0:45:38.360 headlining dates in between because our fans are passionate. Man, 0:45:38.400 --> 0:45:41.040 they're die heard and they want to see the full set, 0:45:41.120 --> 0:45:43.920 and you know, there's opportunity obviously business wise to go 0:45:44.080 --> 0:45:46.239 do those shows. But it's good for us too to 0:45:46.320 --> 0:45:49.000 be in those cities playing for those fans, not just Okay, 0:45:49.040 --> 0:45:51.239 we're gonna play the major cities you need to. I mean, 0:45:51.280 --> 0:45:54.280 that's the thing about country There are country music fans everywhere, 0:45:54.400 --> 0:45:56.960 so you're not just playing New York and Boston or 0:45:57.600 --> 0:46:00.680 you know, big major cities. You're playing all over the place. 0:46:00.880 --> 0:46:03.400 And sometimes those shows are even crazier because the fans, 0:46:04.000 --> 0:46:06.440 you know, in the middle of nowhere, like no one 0:46:06.520 --> 0:46:12.359 ever comes here. I enjoy going to places where they're 0:46:12.440 --> 0:46:14.479 not huge circles on the map with a big city 0:46:14.680 --> 0:46:16.600 because people are so much more appreciative. And I may 0:46:16.640 --> 0:46:20.319 not sell many tickets exactly, but the great thing about 0:46:20.360 --> 0:46:22.839 what I do so in the radio. Most radio people 0:46:22.840 --> 0:46:25.520 don't do things outside of the radio show, right, I do, 0:46:25.760 --> 0:46:27.680 And I think one of the greatest things I get 0:46:27.760 --> 0:46:32.080 from it is getting to have a dose of reality sure, 0:46:32.400 --> 0:46:35.360 and actually seeing and meeting people. Because I do it 0:46:35.400 --> 0:46:37.239 every unless I'm sick. I've only ever not done it 0:46:37.320 --> 0:46:40.160 two or three shows ever unless I'm sick or something 0:46:40.280 --> 0:46:44.400 as went wrong, I always go and that the theaters 0:46:44.440 --> 0:46:45.480 get mad at me for doing it, but I go 0:46:45.600 --> 0:46:49.000 in and talk to people, meet people because that is 0:46:49.040 --> 0:46:51.279 important to me to stay grounded. I can be in 0:46:51.320 --> 0:46:52.960 a room absolutely and just talk to my friends and 0:46:53.000 --> 0:46:54.919 it goes over the airwaves, but I will lose what's 0:46:54.960 --> 0:46:57.759 really happening totally in the world. Yeah. Me being able 0:46:57.760 --> 0:46:59.000 to go out and see people as much as I 0:46:59.040 --> 0:47:02.239 do reset it me back to normalcy. Yeah. I like that. 0:47:02.360 --> 0:47:03.600 It gives me out of the bus. And for you 0:47:03.640 --> 0:47:05.239 guys too, you get out of Nashville, you see what's 0:47:05.280 --> 0:47:08.399 really happening, ye, not what's in this stupid bubble of well, 0:47:08.440 --> 0:47:11.239 what's the coolest thing that's happening right right? It is 0:47:11.280 --> 0:47:12.840 a bubble. And I mean where I grew up with 0:47:12.880 --> 0:47:14.680 a bubble too. It wasn't until I moved out and 0:47:15.360 --> 0:47:17.920 started touring. It was like I thought everything was perfect. 0:47:17.960 --> 0:47:19.800 It was awesome. But it's not always like that. And 0:47:19.840 --> 0:47:22.520 you see the way like certain people live. And that's 0:47:22.560 --> 0:47:24.640 why we try to when we're on stage, even if 0:47:24.680 --> 0:47:27.919 there's like technical difficulties, if the venue sucks or whatever, 0:47:28.000 --> 0:47:30.560 it is like give one hundred and ten percent because 0:47:30.640 --> 0:47:33.799 even like, if there's five people there, those five people 0:47:33.840 --> 0:47:35.840 don't care that there's not six people there. That was 0:47:35.880 --> 0:47:37.759 a hard thing for me to do, but absolutely right. 0:47:37.880 --> 0:47:39.920 You have to give your all to those people because like, 0:47:40.160 --> 0:47:42.840 and it's even more impactful than when you play for 0:47:42.920 --> 0:47:45.319 twenty thousand people in an arena because those people they 0:47:45.360 --> 0:47:47.640 feel special. And like I remember being a kid going 0:47:47.680 --> 0:47:49.200 to shows and if an artist got up there and 0:47:49.239 --> 0:47:51.279 phoned it in because the show wasn't sold out, it's like, 0:47:51.680 --> 0:47:53.680 you know what, I don't know if I love that artist, 0:47:53.760 --> 0:47:55.840 but if we go out there and play, like, you know, 0:47:56.160 --> 0:47:58.000 in front of five people, like we're playing in front 0:47:58.040 --> 0:48:00.200 of big festival crowd, it's it's gonna get a long. 0:48:00.360 --> 0:48:03.200 We've always had that mentality, so it's that took me 0:48:03.280 --> 0:48:07.399 a while and I somebody wrote a book. Charlie Daniel 0:48:07.440 --> 0:48:11.759 for the book said, uh, don't look at the sea. 0:48:12.200 --> 0:48:14.080 And That's something over the past couple of years that 0:48:14.480 --> 0:48:19.160 I've really appreciated is putting forth the effort when when 0:48:19.239 --> 0:48:20.759 it feels like you should be down, like, oh man, 0:48:20.840 --> 0:48:23.560 this didn't sell out, but again, nobody know. I want 0:48:23.560 --> 0:48:25.279 to watch Adam Crowler here's an example, Mike, did I 0:48:25.320 --> 0:48:29.000 want to watch Adamcolo and yeah at tea back and 0:48:29.080 --> 0:48:30.560 the place was half full, and I was and I 0:48:30.640 --> 0:48:32.879 was looking around like, wow, why is it that full? 0:48:33.040 --> 0:48:35.680 I kind of feel, but nobody there was looking behind 0:48:35.760 --> 0:48:39.200 them at any single seat. And it again. Going to 0:48:39.320 --> 0:48:43.200 shows reset me on how to do shows, absolutely absolutely, 0:48:43.360 --> 0:48:45.560 because you also, you know, on the other on the 0:48:45.600 --> 0:48:47.120 flip side of that, you'll go to shows and see 0:48:47.200 --> 0:48:50.240 artists who do notice those empty seats and are complaining. 0:48:50.320 --> 0:48:52.239 You could tell they're just cutting set short and doing whatever, 0:48:52.320 --> 0:48:54.400 and you're like, that's the guy. I don't want to 0:48:54.400 --> 0:48:57.839 be so And I was early that guy, but now 0:48:57.960 --> 0:49:02.040 I'm exact opposite, that's all. And I appreciate it because 0:49:02.400 --> 0:49:05.320 and I went to a John mayrshow in Minneapolis and 0:49:05.440 --> 0:49:07.440 I went through the meet and greet line. Yea, not 0:49:07.719 --> 0:49:11.200 as later later I went I hung out. I was 0:49:11.239 --> 0:49:13.400 cool later, but it was on the show at the beginning. 0:49:14.239 --> 0:49:15.960 I wanted to go through a meet and greet line 0:49:16.000 --> 0:49:17.400 to see what it's like to go through a meet 0:49:17.440 --> 0:49:19.440 and greet line because where I am now, I get 0:49:19.480 --> 0:49:22.040 a lot of things right because in my position, people say, hey, 0:49:22.040 --> 0:49:23.840 don't worry about it. And I've known John Mayor for 0:49:23.880 --> 0:49:26.360 a bit. We've probably had ten instances together. Yea, so 0:49:26.440 --> 0:49:29.239 I don't know him know him, but professionally, right, we 0:49:29.360 --> 0:49:31.120 know each other, and now we actually follow each other 0:49:31.160 --> 0:49:33.239 in social media and stuff. So maybe we'd recognize he'd 0:49:33.239 --> 0:49:35.480 recognized me, I'd recognize him. I'll be like, what up. 0:49:35.760 --> 0:49:37.439 So but I went to the meet and greet line 0:49:37.680 --> 0:49:39.440 and it was forty five minutes or so, and I 0:49:39.520 --> 0:49:42.160 sat and I just talked to people, and it just 0:49:42.280 --> 0:49:44.160 gave me a new respect for even people that come 0:49:44.160 --> 0:49:46.600 to the meeting. Totally. It was just it was it's 0:49:46.640 --> 0:49:48.040 really good for me to do stuff like that. It 0:49:48.120 --> 0:49:50.000 blows my mind. We were just in Europe, were in 0:49:50.040 --> 0:49:52.920 Europe in December, and it's like we came a long way. 0:49:52.960 --> 0:49:55.440 We're like really far from where Shay grew up in Arkansas, 0:49:55.480 --> 0:49:57.760 where I got in Pennsylvania, where we live now in Nashville. 0:49:58.120 --> 0:50:00.800 We're an ocean away and there are people who like 0:50:01.239 --> 0:50:04.160 canceled their plans, booked flights, whatever it is to come 0:50:04.200 --> 0:50:06.560 see us play that. It kind of blows my mind 0:50:06.600 --> 0:50:08.160 that it doesn't make me feel a little guilty. It 0:50:08.280 --> 0:50:10.759 does to me. It does I feel like to see me, 0:50:11.080 --> 0:50:13.800 I wouldn't go see me. I wouldn't go see me either, exactly. 0:50:13.840 --> 0:50:15.840 And I'm so grateful to people that do. But I 0:50:16.040 --> 0:50:18.560 almost want to apologize before the show ye and say, 0:50:19.160 --> 0:50:22.440 oh you just been maybe you know the thirty bucks totally? 0:50:23.440 --> 0:50:26.200 And I hope I do good. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I 0:50:26.280 --> 0:50:29.160 feel like we have We're so lucky. Our fans are 0:50:29.160 --> 0:50:31.279 probably all listening right now. But if you've got fans, 0:50:31.360 --> 0:50:33.800 our friend Kayla, she's like our biggest fans. She's so 0:50:34.000 --> 0:50:36.279 good to us, so loyal. We played the halftime show 0:50:36.320 --> 0:50:38.239 at the Steelers game the other day and she her 0:50:38.280 --> 0:50:40.520 and her friend like took a flight or drove and 0:50:40.640 --> 0:50:41.880 came all the way to the game to see us 0:50:41.920 --> 0:50:44.520 play two and have songs like die Hard. But last 0:50:44.600 --> 0:50:47.200 night her and a bunch of other fans of ours 0:50:47.239 --> 0:50:50.480 started gifting, like people not just buying our song on iTunes. 0:50:50.760 --> 0:50:52.400 They were like, the guys are in the top ten 0:50:52.480 --> 0:50:53.960 on all genres, we should see if we can get 0:50:54.000 --> 0:50:56.680 them to number one. Literally, we're just with their credit 0:50:56.719 --> 0:50:59.240 card and the thing gifting our song to like anybody 0:50:59.280 --> 0:51:02.279 who DM months Twitter, probably spending one hundred dollars like 0:51:02.400 --> 0:51:05.520 gifting the same song over and overun that's amazing, And 0:51:05.640 --> 0:51:07.480 I felt I had a message. I was like, look 0:51:08.320 --> 0:51:10.200 so nice, if you you can stop, like I want 0:51:10.200 --> 0:51:12.160 to go to number one too, but like you're just 0:51:12.280 --> 0:51:15.840 like too kind and I feel guilty. That's yeah, you 0:51:15.960 --> 0:51:18.399 feel like I do. Anyway. I feel like, man, I'm 0:51:18.400 --> 0:51:20.560 just not worthy of this. I feel the same, and 0:51:20.600 --> 0:51:22.239 I hope I never don't feel that way, if that 0:51:22.320 --> 0:51:24.120 makes sense for sure, because I don't ever want to 0:51:24.120 --> 0:51:26.680 take it for granted. Neither do I. It's a good 0:51:26.719 --> 0:51:28.520 thing about being in a duo if we ever one 0:51:28.560 --> 0:51:30.160 of us ever is like starting to get a little 0:51:30.200 --> 0:51:32.320 bit taking it for granted. It's like you need to 0:51:32.400 --> 0:51:35.239 shape up, like get you know, punch the other guy 0:51:35.280 --> 0:51:37.400 in the arm. So when you guys finally decided on 0:51:37.520 --> 0:51:40.319 Dan and Shay the name, the name, like we're really 0:51:40.440 --> 0:51:42.960 just gonna it probably had to be like, well, we 0:51:43.080 --> 0:51:45.160 couldn't come up with the name, so we're just gonna 0:51:45.200 --> 0:51:48.520 be Dan and say yeah, yeah. What was that conversation 0:51:48.640 --> 0:51:50.480 And who was the one that said, Okay, we think 0:51:50.520 --> 0:51:52.160 it just should be Dan and Jay was it Espo? 0:51:52.719 --> 0:51:55.960 I don't remember exactly how it happened, but we are managers. 0:51:56.040 --> 0:51:59.040 We work with Scooter or Braun you know which. By 0:51:59.040 --> 0:52:01.759 the way, it's funny because I was Scooter two weeks ago. Yeah, 0:52:02.120 --> 0:52:05.960 and Scooter goes hold on and facetime's you. He's the 0:52:06.040 --> 0:52:08.640 king of facetiming. While I'm sitting with Scooter in Los Angeles. 0:52:08.960 --> 0:52:10.359 I don't know where you guys were. You were driving. 0:52:10.400 --> 0:52:12.200 You were driving though we were on the bus, I 0:52:12.280 --> 0:52:14.320 think you're doing or was I at home? I don't know, 0:52:14.480 --> 0:52:17.120 well whatever, I remember it. Yeah, So Scooter's part of 0:52:17.160 --> 0:52:20.279 the Hey, we're gonna name you guys, Dan and Shay. Yeah, 0:52:20.440 --> 0:52:22.359 he was part of that. He was like, you guys 0:52:22.400 --> 0:52:25.799 are like recognizable by your names. Because we had met 0:52:25.840 --> 0:52:28.799 with Scooter, we'd flown out. We've had like insane experiences 0:52:28.960 --> 0:52:31.760 at Scooter's place. Like Scooter, by the way, it's Justin Bieber, Kanye, 0:52:32.440 --> 0:52:37.560 Carly class us manager like yeahs Ariana Grande, anybody, and 0:52:37.760 --> 0:52:40.560 we would like go out and jam with Justin Bieber 0:52:40.640 --> 0:52:42.759 and Selena. We'd be playing guitar and singing and doing 0:52:42.800 --> 0:52:45.400 all the stuff and like crazy like these nights that 0:52:45.440 --> 0:52:47.960 you see in you know, at HBO series, like crazy 0:52:48.000 --> 0:52:50.839 stuff and Uh. He was always just like everybody knows 0:52:50.880 --> 0:52:52.480 you guys is Dan and Shay. It's cool, like for 0:52:52.560 --> 0:52:55.160 the branding and instead of having some man name that 0:52:55.200 --> 0:52:57.319 you have to reinvent some new moniker, It's like, why 0:52:57.360 --> 0:52:59.560 not just go buy your names then people you know 0:52:59.600 --> 0:53:01.920 you guys and do whatever. We're like, we don't have 0:53:02.000 --> 0:53:04.359 any other ideas, Sure, let's go with it. And then 0:53:04.480 --> 0:53:06.799 I got with my buddy Pete Tracy. Pete Tracy also 0:53:06.840 --> 0:53:09.200 moved to Nashville with me when I moved here. He's 0:53:09.239 --> 0:53:12.200 from Pittsburgh and like he was on the Dark Time, 0:53:12.320 --> 0:53:14.080 the Dark training with us for a long time. But 0:53:14.360 --> 0:53:16.759 he's crushing it now. He's he did did you see 0:53:16.840 --> 0:53:20.080 Jillian's new video Jillian Jaqueline? I did, yeah for reasons, 0:53:20.160 --> 0:53:25.760 Yeah amazing, Yeah, three months she opened for She's fantastic. 0:53:25.800 --> 0:53:27.600 I put her in my class of twenty seventeen and 0:53:27.640 --> 0:53:29.880 saw that and took her out for three months as 0:53:29.920 --> 0:53:31.480 she opened for it, and Brandon Ray's open it for me. 0:53:31.600 --> 0:53:34.960 Then I just like, I'll just love the new artists man, yeah, fast, 0:53:35.000 --> 0:53:36.440 and they would tell you you're such a big part 0:53:36.480 --> 0:53:38.680 of their careers though, and breaking them. I mean they 0:53:38.760 --> 0:53:40.200 get to a certain level. I mean because of the 0:53:40.280 --> 0:53:42.719 exposure that you give them. So I was stoked on 0:53:42.880 --> 0:53:45.600 Jillian whenever you did that, because I've known Jillian since 0:53:45.680 --> 0:53:47.400 Andy and I moved. We talked about this at the 0:53:47.440 --> 0:53:49.200 Hall of Fame, because you guys came up to my 0:53:49.360 --> 0:53:52.719 radio Hall of Fame. You did, Shane didn't. We were 0:53:52.719 --> 0:53:55.400 both there. Shan just checked out. Yeah he was. He 0:53:55.520 --> 0:53:57.680 was physically there, Okay, Yeah, he was rocking. So you 0:53:57.719 --> 0:54:00.319 and I were talking at a bar in Chicago, yep, 0:54:01.080 --> 0:54:03.800 and it was if I'm stepping out of turn, tell me, 0:54:03.920 --> 0:54:07.480 but you took Devin and Jillian both to the label? Yeah, right, ye, 0:54:07.560 --> 0:54:11.480 it's Warner Brothers. You took them like, yeah, I played, Uh, 0:54:12.160 --> 0:54:14.600 I played Devin's music for our buddy who's now he's 0:54:14.640 --> 0:54:16.799 not at Warner Brothers anymore. And like Davin thought at 0:54:16.800 --> 0:54:19.759 Warner Brothers, Devin's an but our buddy who was head 0:54:19.800 --> 0:54:21.920 of promo over there and played it for him and 0:54:22.320 --> 0:54:24.920 a bunch of people in the label. And you know, oh, 0:54:24.960 --> 0:54:28.239 I have a great relationship with John's talent too. I'm trying. 0:54:28.640 --> 0:54:31.719 I'm trying, can there because they're both fantastic. Yeah, are 0:54:31.760 --> 0:54:33.560 you close to that? Are You're closer to Devin though 0:54:33.600 --> 0:54:37.600 than you and another artist friends, Devin's saying the first 0:54:37.640 --> 0:54:40.160 dance at my wedding. He's great, Like I believe in 0:54:40.239 --> 0:54:42.239 Devin's so much. That's another talk about a guy who's 0:54:42.239 --> 0:54:44.640 passionate about his art. Devin Dawson, by the way, Yeah, 0:54:44.760 --> 0:54:47.120 his records coming out this week. So I mean, he 0:54:47.320 --> 0:54:50.800 is just he's an amazing songwriter. We met first, we 0:54:50.880 --> 0:54:54.600 were just we were writing songs together, and um, I 0:54:54.760 --> 0:54:57.280 was just like, this guy's prolific, Like his words are insane. 0:54:57.400 --> 0:54:59.759 His voice, his voice to me when I first heard him, 0:54:59.760 --> 0:55:02.279 I he was playing at the basement, not the basement East, 0:55:02.440 --> 0:55:04.320 but the regular the small basement, you know, like you 0:55:04.640 --> 0:55:08.640 the basement in your house, Yeah, basement. I don't even 0:55:08.680 --> 0:55:10.600 have a basement, but uh, he was playing at the 0:55:10.640 --> 0:55:12.759 basement and we had written that day. And I told 0:55:12.800 --> 0:55:14.960 my wife Abbey. I was like, Yo, she's a huge 0:55:15.040 --> 0:55:17.040 music fan too. She's like R A and R. You know, 0:55:17.160 --> 0:55:19.759 she knows all the good artists before I do and 0:55:20.239 --> 0:55:22.960 picks our singles and the whole deal. But I was like, 0:55:23.000 --> 0:55:24.680 you gotta go see this guy wrote with today, Like 0:55:24.760 --> 0:55:27.320 he's insane. We saw him at the basement. I was like, 0:55:27.400 --> 0:55:29.920 this guy's a star. Incredible. I mean his voice has 0:55:29.960 --> 0:55:32.680 like a soulful I mean it's like a Gavin de 0:55:32.760 --> 0:55:34.520 Girl kind of sound in his voice. He's got like 0:55:34.560 --> 0:55:37.080 a raspy kind of thing. I don't know. I just 0:55:37.160 --> 0:55:38.880 think that guy and he's got his old branding and 0:55:38.960 --> 0:55:44.399 the monochromatic vibe. And we told he's spent on people. Mike. Yeah, 0:55:44.440 --> 0:55:46.560 when he was playing that you know, the punt he 0:55:46.640 --> 0:55:48.120 was in that scene, he was like, well, we just 0:55:48.239 --> 0:55:52.799 spit on people. Yeah. I loved Devin. He's he's absolutely incredible. Um, 0:55:53.120 --> 0:55:55.799 we share a love of tequila. He brings the nice 0:55:55.880 --> 0:55:58.040 tequila bottles over my house and we enjoy him. But 0:55:58.120 --> 0:56:01.440 Jillian is one of my oldest friends here in Nashville. 0:56:01.440 --> 0:56:03.960 We've been writing songs together since that she'd been in 0:56:04.040 --> 0:56:05.960 that bad house that I was living in, So yeah, 0:56:06.120 --> 0:56:08.600 ask her about that place. But yeah, she's awesome, man, 0:56:08.800 --> 0:56:12.680 and she's she's so cool. She's amazing. She's an amazing songwriter, 0:56:12.680 --> 0:56:16.359 amazing singer, she's beautiful, has a great attitude. She's been 0:56:16.440 --> 0:56:19.400 in this town. I'd like to find that happens. Like 0:56:19.440 --> 0:56:21.279 the people who have the most success have been here 0:56:21.360 --> 0:56:23.879 like cutting their teeth for a long time, like everybody thinks. 0:56:24.680 --> 0:56:27.400 People people think whenever you announced her into that class 0:56:27.440 --> 0:56:29.399 that she was like, oh, this girl just like got 0:56:29.440 --> 0:56:32.560 it made like Bobby's gonna blow her up. Whatever she'd 0:56:32.560 --> 0:56:34.320 been here for she'd been here longer than me. So 0:56:34.440 --> 0:56:36.759 she's been here for probably ten at least ten years, 0:56:36.840 --> 0:56:39.279 and she's a new artist at the same time, exactly right. 0:56:39.280 --> 0:56:41.279 I mean when everyone into a new artists that these 0:56:41.280 --> 0:56:43.520 award shows, I'm like, dude, I've been had this thing, 0:56:43.719 --> 0:56:45.400 but I'll take it. It takes forever to be an 0:56:45.440 --> 0:56:49.040 overnight success. It does. So okay, So you're Dan plus 0:56:49.120 --> 0:56:51.040 sche and that had to be a thing at first 0:56:51.040 --> 0:56:53.360 because I bet everyone's calling you Dan plushe. Oh my 0:56:53.760 --> 0:56:57.120 stay still do this is Dan Plushe with their first 0:56:57.120 --> 0:57:01.040 single nineteen you plus me. It's like, but you know what, 0:57:01.120 --> 0:57:03.520 to be fair, yeah, it is a plus sign. It 0:57:03.680 --> 0:57:07.160 is it is. And we had this like I always 0:57:07.200 --> 0:57:09.560 am like thinking too many steps in advance. I probably 0:57:09.600 --> 0:57:11.960 should enjoy the moment a little more. But Pat and 0:57:12.040 --> 0:57:14.320 I pe Tracy has like been referring to him like 0:57:14.440 --> 0:57:16.960 we had this whole vision for the brand, and you know, 0:57:17.040 --> 0:57:19.320 we could see like Taylor Swift does the heart things 0:57:19.360 --> 0:57:21.000 at our shows with their hands. I was like, I 0:57:21.080 --> 0:57:22.640 want to make our fans, you know if we ever 0:57:22.720 --> 0:57:24.800 have We didn't have any fans at this point. It's like, 0:57:24.880 --> 0:57:26.400 what if they like put their hands up and made 0:57:26.440 --> 0:57:28.320 It's gonna be hard for them to make an ampersand 0:57:28.360 --> 0:57:32.160 with their hands, so like, let's use so they go 0:57:32.400 --> 0:57:34.680 plus signs of their fingers. They yeah, yeah, we don't 0:57:34.720 --> 0:57:36.440 really do it as much anymore our shows like so 0:57:36.760 --> 0:57:38.480 full throttle And you know, did you used to do 0:57:38.520 --> 0:57:40.280 that at the plus signs every show? If you dig 0:57:40.320 --> 0:57:42.080 back on our Instagram, I should probably bring that back. 0:57:42.080 --> 0:57:44.160 It's kind of a cool thing, like yeah, you know, 0:57:44.200 --> 0:57:45.840 i'd take a picture of the crowd, which I stole 0:57:45.880 --> 0:57:47.800 that from Edge here, and he would take pictures of 0:57:47.840 --> 0:57:50.560 the crowd every single night, you know, like even from 0:57:50.600 --> 0:57:52.200 when he was playing clubs and it's cool to watch 0:57:52.280 --> 0:57:55.320 his progress now he's doing five nights at Wembley Stadium. 0:57:55.720 --> 0:57:57.560 But he would always take a picture of the crowd. 0:57:57.640 --> 0:57:59.440 So we would do that and then we would try 0:57:59.480 --> 0:58:00.800 to do the plus sign thing and we'd be like, 0:58:00.880 --> 0:58:02.800 put your hands up and you'd have to explain it. 0:58:02.880 --> 0:58:04.640 At first, kids are like, why am I doing? Okay, 0:58:04.840 --> 0:58:07.240 I see it now, but we'd make them put the 0:58:07.280 --> 0:58:09.360 plus sign up with their fingers and it's a cool thing. 0:58:09.400 --> 0:58:11.640 And nobody does that that that exact thing. Yeah, I 0:58:11.640 --> 0:58:13.680 haven't seen anyone do the plus sign thing, so I 0:58:14.080 --> 0:58:15.840 haven't seen anybody. You should bring it back. I might 0:58:15.880 --> 0:58:17.640 bring it back. It's hard. It's hard to have a 0:58:17.720 --> 0:58:20.400 thing nowadays because everybody's got a thing totally. So it's 0:58:20.440 --> 0:58:22.440 hard to have a thing when everybody's got a thing. Yep, 0:58:22.720 --> 0:58:24.200 that's the thing if you don't have somebody to do it. 0:58:24.400 --> 0:58:26.600 It did like at first, it confused a lot of 0:58:26.640 --> 0:58:29.120 people and aren't Like some folks at our record label 0:58:29.120 --> 0:58:30.640 were like, we should just change it to the end 0:58:30.760 --> 0:58:33.880 like this. I'm like, people will eventually get it. And 0:58:34.040 --> 0:58:36.240 if they're talking about us and they're playing our song, 0:58:37.160 --> 0:58:39.520 so what, it's fine. It's fine. You know, it's just 0:58:39.600 --> 0:58:42.360 one more thing to talk about. So yeah, we had 0:58:42.400 --> 0:58:43.960 to grind away for a few years with the plus 0:58:44.040 --> 0:58:46.920 sign thing, but there are still a few people Dan blush, 0:58:47.280 --> 0:58:50.040 you know, it's like, all right, we're done here. You 0:58:50.120 --> 0:58:53.360 bring up Abby your wife, so let's tell me about 0:58:53.360 --> 0:58:55.000 my story's wrong again. You can just always say, hey, 0:58:55.040 --> 0:58:58.120 stop talking. So she was working at your label, she was, 0:58:58.440 --> 0:59:00.280 and you were dating, So she stopped working at the 0:59:00.360 --> 0:59:02.160 label because she couldn't date you while working at the label. 0:59:02.280 --> 0:59:04.400 Is that true? Kind of Yeah, she was. She was 0:59:04.520 --> 0:59:06.960 working at the label. She was a regional, a promo 0:59:07.200 --> 0:59:09.800 rep of ours, which is like the toughest job in 0:59:09.840 --> 0:59:12.240 the entire world. I mean, I did High World, but 0:59:12.240 --> 0:59:17.960 it's a tough job. Yeah it is. I'm a dramatic guy, 0:59:18.040 --> 0:59:20.240 go ahead. But in the music industry, I think that 0:59:20.320 --> 0:59:22.800 is the most difficult job. They as much as we tour, 0:59:22.840 --> 0:59:26.040 they're working five or six artists simultaneously, and they're out 0:59:26.480 --> 0:59:29.760 knocking on radio stations doors. It's six am, saying hey, 0:59:29.840 --> 0:59:31.920 our Dan and Shay record is looking a little weak, 0:59:32.200 --> 0:59:34.480 you know right now, like we need to get some spins. 0:59:34.520 --> 0:59:37.160 And it's just it's like a sales job. It's so tough. 0:59:37.280 --> 0:59:39.120 And then when a new artist like us comes out, 0:59:39.440 --> 0:59:41.960 they go on a radio tour and that's like so grueling. 0:59:42.040 --> 0:59:44.440 We'd be doing four stations a day, and then you're 0:59:44.440 --> 0:59:46.560 going out to dinner and you're hanging with program directors 0:59:46.640 --> 0:59:48.720 and it all pays off in the end. It's great. 0:59:48.760 --> 0:59:50.920 You need to make those relationships. And country radio is 0:59:51.120 --> 0:59:56.240 very you know, close knit, and it's a flashiship for sure. Yeah, 0:59:56.720 --> 0:59:58.800 we've had great luck. You know, people have been so 0:59:58.960 --> 1:00:01.200 kind to us. But it's wee guys are nice though, 1:00:01.840 --> 1:00:04.240 because there's nothing super pretentious about you two. When you 1:00:04.280 --> 1:00:06.640 show up in a room and you have Shay, who's 1:00:06.640 --> 1:00:08.680 just like no, no, no, no, no, no, you know, totally. 1:00:08.800 --> 1:00:13.400 He's a good one to Shay. Is my Amy, Yep, 1:00:13.680 --> 1:00:16.640 because I am when I'm not working, I got nothing 1:00:16.680 --> 1:00:19.120 to say the same. I'm quiet. I prefer to be 1:00:19.200 --> 1:00:21.320 creative in my own head, right on a computer or 1:00:21.360 --> 1:00:24.400 right here, and I'm just not that outward. But I 1:00:24.480 --> 1:00:27.600 can take Amy and people will like me. Yeah, because 1:00:27.600 --> 1:00:30.280 Amy's awesome and she's so good garious in the room. 1:00:31.040 --> 1:00:33.920 So but you guys are nice to be around. Thank 1:00:33.920 --> 1:00:35.920 you for saying that. Mike Wise, I never disliked you. 1:00:36.040 --> 1:00:37.240 I don't know if you guys ever got mad at 1:00:37.240 --> 1:00:39.200 me when I was calling you the Savage Garden of 1:00:39.240 --> 1:00:41.880 country radio. I'll take that man again. People, somebody's talking 1:00:41.880 --> 1:00:43.640 about us. You got a big audience, and people we're 1:00:43.640 --> 1:00:45.479 talking and you guys came in and saying Savage Garden 1:00:45.560 --> 1:00:47.720 and crushed it, and I thought that's when I was like, Oh, 1:00:47.800 --> 1:00:50.240 these guys are better than other people, because to be 1:00:50.520 --> 1:00:52.480 on a certain level, I mean, do you have a 1:00:52.560 --> 1:00:55.000 deal you have to be so good for really, because 1:00:55.000 --> 1:00:57.320 it's a talent of elite talent and the elite of 1:00:57.360 --> 1:01:00.840 the elite. It's a record deal. And then luck involved too, 1:01:00.880 --> 1:01:02.400 because there are a lot of talented people in this town. 1:01:02.440 --> 1:01:03.960 They don't have record deals. Yeah, but I think you 1:01:03.960 --> 1:01:06.320 can make decisions to change your luck. I'm not a 1:01:06.400 --> 1:01:08.720 big luck guy. Generally, I'm just not a big luck guy. 1:01:08.800 --> 1:01:10.440 But that being said, I knew you guys would have 1:01:10.480 --> 1:01:11.520 to be good to have a deal. But when you 1:01:11.640 --> 1:01:13.760 came in after, I would say, all these guys don't 1:01:13.760 --> 1:01:15.720 like the Savage Garden of of country radio, and you 1:01:15.800 --> 1:01:19.480 guys sang. I just remember going, Oh, they're different, they're 1:01:19.520 --> 1:01:22.880 better than everybody. They're woking. Man. You guys weren't around 1:01:22.880 --> 1:01:25.040 a lot because you're touring all the time too. But 1:01:25.120 --> 1:01:27.360 I remember thinking, all, they're better than everybody. They're way 1:01:27.400 --> 1:01:28.920 better than people, and they're not asking for credit, but 1:01:28.960 --> 1:01:30.640 they're way better than people. Give them credit for you 1:01:31.080 --> 1:01:33.360 guys did Boys the Men, which is how Scooter and 1:01:33.360 --> 1:01:34.760 I got to know each other. Do you know the story. 1:01:34.840 --> 1:01:38.080 I don't know the story. Okay, yes, so you guys 1:01:38.200 --> 1:01:40.040 came in and you know, I mean, I love all 1:01:40.080 --> 1:01:42.200 formats and music. I think formats are garbage about. We 1:01:42.280 --> 1:01:44.320 all do, honestly. And the people who say they don't, 1:01:45.080 --> 1:01:46.960 All the people out there who say I only listen 1:01:47.000 --> 1:01:48.880 to a certain thing, they're in their truck or their 1:01:48.920 --> 1:01:51.400 car bumping every kind of music that anything that makes 1:01:51.440 --> 1:01:53.800 them feel something. They're listening to it. Even the most 1:01:53.960 --> 1:01:55.480 we won't I will not mention the name, but even 1:01:55.520 --> 1:01:59.360 the most country of artists that I know, YE loves 1:01:59.400 --> 1:02:04.400 all kinds of it. The part is people yell about 1:02:04.440 --> 1:02:08.240 like that's real country, that's that person is probably listening 1:02:08.280 --> 1:02:09.840 to twenty one Savage right now, like I hate to 1:02:09.920 --> 1:02:12.600 brush bubble, but they got yeah yeah. And if you 1:02:12.680 --> 1:02:14.840 restrict yourself to a certain thing because of its genre 1:02:14.920 --> 1:02:17.040 lines and say I can only listen, or you deny 1:02:17.120 --> 1:02:19.040 yourself from liking a certain thing that you actually like, 1:02:19.200 --> 1:02:22.240 you're just cheating yourself. I was doing a YouTube and 1:02:22.360 --> 1:02:24.200 I'm doing a lot of projects with Scooter now on 1:02:24.280 --> 1:02:28.520 the television side, so um working on multiple ones. But 1:02:28.840 --> 1:02:31.600 the reason is because of you guys. Well what happened was, 1:02:31.680 --> 1:02:34.400 so he's he manages you guys, him and Jason Owen 1:02:34.440 --> 1:02:37.960 at Sandboxingtown. He you guys came in and we were 1:02:38.000 --> 1:02:39.320 going back and forth and you guys were playing all 1:02:39.320 --> 1:02:40.800 these songs out of format and I'm like, oh, due 1:02:40.800 --> 1:02:42.480 this one, and I was singing along doing this and 1:02:42.520 --> 1:02:44.600 he was like, wait, you're not the normal country guy, 1:02:44.600 --> 1:02:46.000 he said, So I started going down the rabbit hole 1:02:46.000 --> 1:02:48.439 of YouTube videos and saw that you do all kinds 1:02:48.480 --> 1:02:51.760 of music and you have a different look about you. 1:02:52.400 --> 1:02:54.320 And he was like, So I thought, I'm gonna keep 1:02:54.360 --> 1:02:55.960 that guy's name and when something comes up and then 1:02:56.320 --> 1:02:58.600 he calls and that's awesome. Then that's how we started 1:02:58.600 --> 1:03:00.720 their business. It was I forgot about this. It was 1:03:00.760 --> 1:03:03.000 you freaking guys. He saw a YouTube video of us 1:03:03.240 --> 1:03:06.520 singing it together. Yeah, we were good at that. So 1:03:07.240 --> 1:03:09.080 let's fast forward, because I don't know how I've been talking. 1:03:09.080 --> 1:03:11.360 I could do five of these. How long we wait? Okay, 1:03:11.680 --> 1:03:14.840 let's go to right now. You and Shay, you plus 1:03:14.960 --> 1:03:16.680 each other, you met, had a baby. I don't know 1:03:16.680 --> 1:03:18.840 what happened. Yeah, we we got all the comments dans 1:03:19.360 --> 1:03:22.240 that equal. I want to tell you about what's happening 1:03:22.320 --> 1:03:24.360 right now and again people will hear this, who knows when, 1:03:24.400 --> 1:03:26.960 but they just put out DANAE put out Tequila and 1:03:27.520 --> 1:03:30.400 what's playing over here? Mike hold on, I turned it off. 1:03:30.400 --> 1:03:33.080 I got it, I got it. So you put out 1:03:33.080 --> 1:03:39.880 the song Tequila. It's doing. It has cut through more 1:03:39.960 --> 1:03:41.800 than any other song I feel you guys have put 1:03:41.840 --> 1:03:45.680 out Initially, you guys have had some monster hits that 1:03:45.760 --> 1:03:50.640 have had slow grinds. Yeah that it's taken people while 1:03:50.760 --> 1:03:53.240 to get to either radio people or the fans. Yep, 1:03:53.480 --> 1:03:55.760 this has been the biggest song for you guys from 1:03:55.800 --> 1:03:59.640 the initial pop. It's been incredible. I've yeah, I've not 1:03:59.760 --> 1:04:02.840 been shy about sharing the numbers or whatever on the internet, 1:04:02.880 --> 1:04:05.240 but it is incredible. We work so hard on these 1:04:05.280 --> 1:04:09.120 songs and making the tracks, and people, I think a 1:04:09.200 --> 1:04:12.160 lot of times don't appreciate what goes into a song. 1:04:12.200 --> 1:04:14.080 You know, even if somebody's out there criticizing a song 1:04:14.160 --> 1:04:16.640 and doing whatever that song had to like, start with 1:04:16.720 --> 1:04:19.160 somebody writing it right, maybe on an acousi guitar, piano, 1:04:19.240 --> 1:04:22.040 and then be demoed and somebody at a label how 1:04:22.080 --> 1:04:23.240 to be like, yeah, I like that, we should go 1:04:23.320 --> 1:04:24.880 in the studio and pay for that to be recorded. 1:04:24.880 --> 1:04:27.280 We should cut that. Then it gets mixed and mastered, 1:04:27.320 --> 1:04:29.080 and then there's a lot of steps that a song 1:04:29.200 --> 1:04:32.320 goes through from when it's written to when somebody hears it. 1:04:32.720 --> 1:04:34.880 And to see this song doing so well, I start 1:04:34.960 --> 1:04:37.560 tracing those steps back and it's like I spend a 1:04:37.640 --> 1:04:40.520 lot of time working on that track, you know, producing 1:04:40.600 --> 1:04:44.160 the you know, the drum loops or whatever, and editing vocals. 1:04:44.400 --> 1:04:46.000 We do it all at my house, so it's like 1:04:46.480 --> 1:04:48.080 a lot of time went into that, And I was 1:04:48.120 --> 1:04:50.680 so nervous before we put it out because it starts 1:04:50.720 --> 1:04:53.240 with the piano and a vocal, which you know, for 1:04:53.360 --> 1:04:55.280 the people out there who don't know, is like a 1:04:55.360 --> 1:04:58.040 little bit risky at country radio or radio in general, 1:04:58.160 --> 1:05:00.600 because it's like ballads are tougher to fit into a 1:05:00.680 --> 1:05:03.680 playlist because it's slowed down the base of your radio station. 1:05:03.840 --> 1:05:06.520 But we're just are in this place now where you know, 1:05:06.600 --> 1:05:08.560 luckily ballots have worked for Dan and Jay, we've had 1:05:08.640 --> 1:05:11.640 success on from the ground up. Was our biggest song previously, 1:05:11.720 --> 1:05:17.960 and that's out, and this one had probably the second 1:05:18.000 --> 1:05:20.560 biggest from the From the beginning, we felt it. This 1:05:20.680 --> 1:05:22.320 was a big one. It was big for us. Yeah, 1:05:22.800 --> 1:05:25.440 and we've been It's it's funny because that this song 1:05:25.640 --> 1:05:28.520 is our biggest hit, changed our lives, changed our career. 1:05:28.600 --> 1:05:30.840 We've been on a whole other level since this song 1:05:30.960 --> 1:05:34.680 came out, but since Tequila came out. That's the stat comparison. 1:05:34.760 --> 1:05:37.000 So all get emails from s BO or you know 1:05:37.160 --> 1:05:39.959 whoever from the label and it says Tequila has sold 1:05:40.000 --> 1:05:43.040 in the first four days it was out, thirty two 1:05:43.120 --> 1:05:47.280 thousand downloads on iTunes versus fifteen thousand of from the 1:05:47.320 --> 1:05:50.280 ground up, so almost double. An additional stat is that 1:05:50.360 --> 1:05:53.320 the market in general on track sales is down fifty percent, 1:05:53.400 --> 1:05:55.000 Like you're going up, all the markets going down, so 1:05:55.200 --> 1:05:57.680 you can hypothetically say it's almost double what it is. 1:05:57.760 --> 1:05:59.560 So it's if you do that in your head, it's like, 1:06:00.080 --> 1:06:02.120 this is so impactful and just to see how that's 1:06:02.200 --> 1:06:04.880 how far that song went for us is insane, and 1:06:04.960 --> 1:06:06.920 this one is, I mean, it's been number one on 1:06:06.920 --> 1:06:09.480 the country chart, which is incredible. But then there's some 1:06:09.560 --> 1:06:12.360 heavy hitters in the all genres chart there's Bruno, Mars 1:06:12.400 --> 1:06:15.080 has Filthy out Right Now are just timber Lake, and 1:06:15.200 --> 1:06:18.720 Bruno has Finesse imagine Dragons Thunder. All these songs are 1:06:18.760 --> 1:06:21.520 in the top ten on the radio pop, which is 1:06:21.520 --> 1:06:24.800 an insanely big audience. And Tequila for some reason is 1:06:24.800 --> 1:06:27.080 like the little engine that could, and it's just camped 1:06:27.080 --> 1:06:29.000 out in the top five or top ten, you know, 1:06:29.080 --> 1:06:31.240 the last couple weeks and is I don't know, it's 1:06:31.400 --> 1:06:34.360 it's surreal to me to see that happen because it's 1:06:34.360 --> 1:06:37.920 still so early in the radio, you know, country radio climb. 1:06:38.000 --> 1:06:39.800 It's it's a long time for a new artist, but 1:06:39.840 --> 1:06:43.640 it is. And this song could cross over a bit. 1:06:43.800 --> 1:06:45.280 I don't know. You probably have thought about that, never 1:06:45.280 --> 1:06:47.240 said it out loud, but this song could cross over 1:06:47.320 --> 1:06:51.680 a bit. Yeah, I think on this round we you know, 1:06:51.760 --> 1:06:53.560 we did face a lot of the haters. I think 1:06:53.880 --> 1:06:56.200 that was kind of our evolution. When we first put 1:06:56.280 --> 1:06:57.840 out our you know, the Where It All Began album, 1:06:57.880 --> 1:06:59.640 we didn't know what we're doing on that album. That 1:06:59.720 --> 1:07:01.919 was just demos that we were doing in my living 1:07:02.000 --> 1:07:05.560 room or whatever on Logic and we were just kind 1:07:05.600 --> 1:07:07.960 of like two guys figuring it out in the second record. 1:07:08.040 --> 1:07:10.040 We kind of were reacted a little bit of those 1:07:10.080 --> 1:07:13.160 people on Twitter or at festivals saying like, you guys 1:07:13.200 --> 1:07:15.680 are ruining country music with that Myrtle Beach song, the 1:07:15.800 --> 1:07:17.760 nineteen Ue and Me song. You know that you guys are, 1:07:18.160 --> 1:07:19.680 So we were like, we should do a little bit 1:07:19.920 --> 1:07:22.600 more of a country thing, and yeah, this was the 1:07:22.640 --> 1:07:24.720 one that ruined country music, I guess, but oh yeah, 1:07:24.720 --> 1:07:27.720 totally ruin them. Everybody's saying it every time it came 1:07:27.760 --> 1:07:29.320 on the right You know this now and this is 1:07:29.360 --> 1:07:31.400 like down the middle of country, but at the time 1:07:31.440 --> 1:07:35.120 it was very left the center. But all the artists 1:07:35.160 --> 1:07:37.480 that break through. Sam Hunt whenever his stuff came out, 1:07:37.600 --> 1:07:41.240 was like so pushing boundaries, or even Kelsey or anybody 1:07:41.240 --> 1:07:43.320 who's doing their thing. But now you listen back to 1:07:43.400 --> 1:07:45.520 that and you like, that sounds like a normal country song, 1:07:45.680 --> 1:07:47.800 more traditional than some stuff on the radio. And what 1:07:47.960 --> 1:07:50.280 you just talked about has been done a thousand times. 1:07:50.360 --> 1:07:53.160 But just my conversation with Garth about this specifically, and 1:07:53.200 --> 1:07:55.120 I talked Garth is the pioneer of that. He said 1:07:55.160 --> 1:07:56.800 they want to run him out of town because what 1:07:56.880 --> 1:07:59.000 he was doing was so different than everybody else that 1:07:59.240 --> 1:08:02.000 he was ruining country music. And not to compare Kelsey 1:08:02.120 --> 1:08:03.960 or you or Sam to Garth because everybody's in their 1:08:04.000 --> 1:08:06.480 own space. But it's just the same story, even from 1:08:06.520 --> 1:08:08.640 the biggest people. Yeah, where you think, oh, that's what 1:08:08.800 --> 1:08:11.800 country is like he always was. No. I sat with 1:08:11.920 --> 1:08:14.120 Garth and he said, they told me that this is 1:08:14.200 --> 1:08:16.639 not country music. Yeah, I should stop making it for sure. 1:08:17.439 --> 1:08:19.280 I mean on this record, we were just we were 1:08:19.320 --> 1:08:20.760 just like, you know what, we love, what we love. 1:08:20.840 --> 1:08:23.120 We take all our influences. Obviously, we moved here because 1:08:23.120 --> 1:08:25.200 we want to write country songs. We love country music. 1:08:25.720 --> 1:08:28.920 But we were just like, we should just record what 1:08:29.040 --> 1:08:31.320 we know how to record and record great songs, no 1:08:31.439 --> 1:08:33.960 matter who writes them. Figured that on our last record. 1:08:34.000 --> 1:08:36.439 We you know, we came here as songwriters, but to 1:08:36.520 --> 1:08:38.679 have a successful artist career, you need to always record 1:08:38.720 --> 1:08:40.320 the best song, whether you write it or you don't. 1:08:40.800 --> 1:08:42.840 Adam Hambrick wrote how not too We heard that demo 1:08:42.960 --> 1:08:45.479 come in. That's a funny story too. But that song 1:08:45.560 --> 1:08:47.040 came in and we didn't write it, and we were like, 1:08:47.120 --> 1:08:51.040 you know what this is that? No, this doesn't even 1:08:51.640 --> 1:08:54.840 heard he rerecorded it. I think this sounds amazing. Here's 1:08:54.880 --> 1:09:00.280 the demo, you got it, here's the work tape. I 1:09:00.439 --> 1:09:09.400 never heard this, you know. So if we took out 1:09:09.439 --> 1:09:10.880 him out with us and he played with the Raging 1:09:10.920 --> 1:09:13.960 Idiots for four months, so he would play the song 1:09:14.600 --> 1:09:16.479 and every every I played out a little bit of 1:09:16.479 --> 1:09:18.240 you guys in my heart. I love it. I love it. 1:09:19.200 --> 1:09:20.880 But the thing is, you talk about artists writing for you, 1:09:20.960 --> 1:09:23.240 you also write for other artists. Yeah, we've had a 1:09:23.280 --> 1:09:25.800 little bit of luck with that. We're still always it's 1:09:25.800 --> 1:09:27.439 a little bit difficult now that we're doing our own 1:09:27.479 --> 1:09:30.320 projects because you write, you know, I think I wrote 1:09:30.360 --> 1:09:33.840 like ninety four songs last year or something insane. But 1:09:34.360 --> 1:09:36.479 you always want to keep the best songs for yourself, 1:09:36.600 --> 1:09:39.000 you know. Our artist career is obviously the most important thing. 1:09:39.520 --> 1:09:41.920 And then when somebody hears something like that tequila song. 1:09:42.600 --> 1:09:44.320 I wrote it with Nicole Galleon, who I think you've 1:09:44.360 --> 1:09:46.479 talked to her. Yeah, we talked to days a matter 1:09:46.479 --> 1:09:49.320 of fact. Yeah, she's brilliant. She's like one step ahead 1:09:49.320 --> 1:09:52.000 of everybody else. She wrote right now, She's got female 1:09:52.000 --> 1:09:54.840 from Keith Urban out there. She's boy for Lee Bryce, which, 1:09:55.160 --> 1:09:57.760 like some of the best most well written songs on 1:09:57.880 --> 1:10:01.880 country radio and my friend Jordan Reynolds, and uh, what 1:10:02.000 --> 1:10:03.840 was I talking about writing that song? Oh? Yeah, we 1:10:04.080 --> 1:10:05.519 wrote that song and it was one of the ones 1:10:05.880 --> 1:10:07.600 from the ground. It was the same thing where we 1:10:07.640 --> 1:10:09.600 sat on the demo for a little while, sat on 1:10:09.640 --> 1:10:11.760 it for like a year before we recorded it, and 1:10:11.840 --> 1:10:14.280 it had circulated to other artists, you know, publishers and 1:10:14.360 --> 1:10:17.160 even tequila circula tequila. Yeah, and it's circulated. I would 1:10:17.200 --> 1:10:18.880 get texts from artists and be like, dude, if you 1:10:18.920 --> 1:10:21.639 guys aren't cutting that song, I'm cutting that like I'm 1:10:21.680 --> 1:10:23.720 gonna put it on my record. And then you're like, 1:10:24.479 --> 1:10:26.360 should I get that song away? Because you never know 1:10:26.400 --> 1:10:28.320 what's gonna end up making. That song may never have 1:10:28.400 --> 1:10:30.880 made our record, you know, we may have beat it 1:10:31.040 --> 1:10:33.439 or written something else, Like I should have gave that away. 1:10:33.880 --> 1:10:36.960 But you know, it always finds the write home somehow, 1:10:37.040 --> 1:10:40.120 I don't know, or the home that it has is 1:10:40.160 --> 1:10:42.519 just what you know. It's true because there could have 1:10:42.520 --> 1:10:45.840 been songs. Listen. I'm just not I'm just not a 1:10:46.520 --> 1:10:50.920 destiny guy. Yeah, I'm but you make your own. I 1:10:51.120 --> 1:10:54.200 do enjoy tequila the song. I've never actually tasted tequila 1:10:54.240 --> 1:10:59.360 to drink. But I do enjoy to thank you of 1:10:59.439 --> 1:11:06.280 the vocals on Man that I saw you post that 1:11:06.439 --> 1:11:09.320 I didn't know that. Yeah, like the first time ever. 1:11:09.400 --> 1:11:13.120 On the track, we just do all yeah right there, 1:11:14.160 --> 1:11:16.160 that little Justin Bieber thing in the back, I should 1:11:16.200 --> 1:11:18.360 have put up my I saw Zach Krow was on here, 1:11:18.439 --> 1:11:21.240 like soloing out tracks. We'll do that next time. It's tequida. 1:11:22.240 --> 1:11:24.240 So I just took the tequila thing and it shifted 1:11:24.280 --> 1:11:27.719 it up towel sense and it's made that little crazy 1:11:27.760 --> 1:11:30.960 tequila sound. And the thing is, you're such a pretty 1:11:31.080 --> 1:11:33.600 like this is you doing this stuff? People don't know 1:11:34.120 --> 1:11:38.720 that you're that. Shay is excellent. It's it's such a 1:11:38.800 --> 1:11:42.680 great team. Yeah, because for the most part, you're the 1:11:42.800 --> 1:11:44.760 brains that's putting these sounds together in its in a 1:11:44.840 --> 1:11:50.120 lab and singing his freaking brains out on stage. But 1:11:50.160 --> 1:11:51.920 you're both are doing the other things too. For sure. 1:11:52.000 --> 1:11:55.320 It's literally the best singer I've ever heard. It's like insane. 1:11:55.360 --> 1:11:57.280 It's amazing to watch somebody who's like never heard him 1:11:57.280 --> 1:11:59.920 singing person watch their reaction. Oh that's what happened to me. 1:12:00.000 --> 1:12:01.760 When you guys came in the front. I was like, oh, yeah, 1:12:01.800 --> 1:12:04.360 they're the best. Yeah, the game over. Yep, it's insane. 1:12:04.360 --> 1:12:07.360 I still get blown away by it. I'm like when 1:12:07.479 --> 1:12:10.479 when he's in the studio, especially live, is there's a 1:12:10.520 --> 1:12:12.560 lot of great live singers, but in the studio is 1:12:12.680 --> 1:12:15.960 like very vulnerable place, and I mean just the timing 1:12:16.080 --> 1:12:17.760 and the tone and like I look at you know, 1:12:17.800 --> 1:12:20.639 I'll pull up you know, a pitch thing and look 1:12:20.680 --> 1:12:22.320 at where he is. I mean, he's like spot on. 1:12:22.479 --> 1:12:25.160 It's it's a gift, it really is. I mean it's 1:12:25.360 --> 1:12:26.920 and he can wake up in the morning and sing too. 1:12:27.000 --> 1:12:28.599 It's like, you know, come in on the radio show 1:12:28.600 --> 1:12:30.880 and sing Boys to Men, which is like that's a 1:12:30.960 --> 1:12:32.880 hard song to sing. Yeah, I didn't ask you guys 1:12:32.920 --> 1:12:34.760 to sing the last time because I was like you 1:12:34.800 --> 1:12:36.880 whim saying. I was like, no, I think they need 1:12:37.400 --> 1:12:39.320 they let's let's have a little time there in the middle. 1:12:39.600 --> 1:12:42.840 You guys have just crushed it so many times. So man, 1:12:42.880 --> 1:12:45.559 I'm happy for you guys. Thank you. Man. You've been 1:12:45.600 --> 1:12:47.519 there since the beginning, so it's been a kind of 1:12:47.640 --> 1:12:49.519 not really but kind of like, I mean, you've been there. 1:12:49.560 --> 1:12:50.960 I didn't know what I was doing when you started 1:12:51.280 --> 1:12:52.760 I wish I could have been the guy that was 1:12:52.840 --> 1:12:54.840 like dannit say the best ever. You should trust me. 1:12:54.880 --> 1:12:56.080 I don't even know I was talking about, you know 1:12:56.120 --> 1:12:58.439 what I think Now we've settled into our places after 1:12:58.640 --> 1:13:00.479 we were like kind of on the same timeline, and 1:13:00.520 --> 1:13:02.280 we've settled in and we just do us, you know, 1:13:02.400 --> 1:13:05.160 like you're doing your thing. If there's a few haters 1:13:05.200 --> 1:13:07.320 out there, so what they don't have to listen. You 1:13:07.400 --> 1:13:09.120 do your thing, and we're making the music we want 1:13:09.120 --> 1:13:10.760 to make. And that's what we did on Tequilo. Like 1:13:10.880 --> 1:13:13.519 we could have went more country, could have went more pop, 1:13:13.600 --> 1:13:14.840 but we just did what we knew how to do. 1:13:14.920 --> 1:13:16.840 And we're like, you know what country music is just 1:13:17.120 --> 1:13:19.599 about great songs and great stories, and that's what we did. 1:13:19.680 --> 1:13:22.479 And yeah, it's maybe about it, maybe slower than some 1:13:22.560 --> 1:13:25.240 of the other stuff we've recorded. Explained yourself, everybody, And 1:13:25.840 --> 1:13:28.439 I feel like you've been built defensive because people have 1:13:28.560 --> 1:13:33.000 been saying, oh, yeah, I'm just being honest. Man. Yeah, 1:13:33.320 --> 1:13:35.880 screw it, don't be defended. We just didn't. Don't explain it. 1:13:35.920 --> 1:13:40.759 That's right, and it's awesome, thank you, thank you. That's it. Likewise, 1:13:40.920 --> 1:13:42.680 no no do about me. I did. It's true though, 1:13:42.760 --> 1:13:47.760 you're doing your thing Bellerini's album title. Yes, but it's true. 1:13:47.800 --> 1:13:50.080 I mean, you're doing your thing and you have a 1:13:50.240 --> 1:13:52.840 huge following and it's massively successful because you're doing your 1:13:52.960 --> 1:13:55.760 I want to talk about me. You gotta shake that explanation. 1:13:56.200 --> 1:13:58.439 I have to explain. Cool, how many number ones you 1:13:58.479 --> 1:14:02.360 have right as an artist? Three? Okay? And how many 1:14:02.400 --> 1:14:06.360 of you written on two? So it's funny though nineteen 1:14:06.400 --> 1:14:08.800 You and Me was one of our biggest songs, went 1:14:08.880 --> 1:14:10.920 to number eleven on the chart. That's all that song 1:14:11.000 --> 1:14:14.960 went to eleven? You know me? I went to h 1:14:15.280 --> 1:14:17.120 it doesn't matter. I was hanging with Keith. I started 1:14:17.200 --> 1:14:19.599 named Drapa too much. Even I know myself, so I start, 1:14:19.640 --> 1:14:21.519 I'm hanging with Keith every one. We're talking about songs 1:14:21.840 --> 1:14:24.360 and he's like, man, he's like, I don't if it 1:14:24.479 --> 1:14:28.320 was Stupid Boy or whatever. It was like, it wasn't 1:14:28.320 --> 1:14:31.400 the number one song, and it's what, I don't remember 1:14:31.439 --> 1:14:34.280 which one it was specifically, like our favorite song, you know, yes, 1:14:34.360 --> 1:14:35.599 And he was like, it wasn't the number one song, 1:14:35.640 --> 1:14:37.320 but it's the one that people just want me to 1:14:37.360 --> 1:14:39.880 play the most. The fans don't know. They don't care. 1:14:39.960 --> 1:14:41.479 If they love a song and it hits them like 1:14:41.560 --> 1:14:43.160 it makes them feel something, they don't care where it 1:14:43.240 --> 1:14:45.000 ends up. We in this town, we care, and I 1:14:45.400 --> 1:14:47.240 everybody out there I care. I want our songs to 1:14:47.320 --> 1:14:49.679 go to number one, obviously because you want to eat. Yeah, 1:14:50.000 --> 1:14:51.920 when you have it is rewarding. I mean, it doesn't 1:14:51.960 --> 1:14:54.120 get any higher than going number one. So that's that's 1:14:54.160 --> 1:14:56.120 a great place except number one for two weeks. Listen, 1:14:56.200 --> 1:14:58.880 there's only a place I'm gonna spiral of. That's why 1:14:58.880 --> 1:15:02.599 I go to therapy. But the fans, if it connects, 1:15:02.640 --> 1:15:04.720 like we've had stuff die had thirty five on the 1:15:04.800 --> 1:15:06.680 chart that pop off at our shows. I talked to 1:15:06.680 --> 1:15:09.439 Thomas read about this here I go name drop vacation, 1:15:09.640 --> 1:15:12.160 vacation that to him get crushed him to the song 1:15:12.320 --> 1:15:14.840 didn't do that well at all. Yeah, and he's like, 1:15:14.880 --> 1:15:16.560 I play it live and people freak out. Well, we 1:15:16.600 --> 1:15:18.360 were in the back of the bus and he was 1:15:18.400 --> 1:15:20.080 about to go to radio with that song and he 1:15:20.120 --> 1:15:22.240 said there was like eleven guys that had hit him 1:15:22.320 --> 1:15:24.080 up and said I will never play this song. And 1:15:24.200 --> 1:15:25.519 he was like, you know what, it's so good at 1:15:25.560 --> 1:15:28.160 my show. If we can get any visibility on this song, 1:15:28.200 --> 1:15:29.640 it's going to be even better in the show. So 1:15:30.040 --> 1:15:32.559 screw it. And that was awesome. That was a risky 1:15:32.600 --> 1:15:34.160 that was a bold move of him, and it's I mean, 1:15:34.360 --> 1:15:36.240 we toured with him. It goes off at his show. Yeah, 1:15:36.320 --> 1:15:38.160 he even played it in New Year's Eve and I 1:15:38.320 --> 1:15:40.120 texted him afterward. I was like, dude, it was great. 1:15:40.160 --> 1:15:43.200 I don't care. Yeah, stupid radio says yeah. And I 1:15:43.320 --> 1:15:46.240 love radio and I hate radio, and I can be both. Now. 1:15:46.360 --> 1:15:48.559 Radio is in country music is the driving force behind 1:15:48.600 --> 1:15:50.479 what we do. It's like, you want to have hits, 1:15:50.520 --> 1:15:52.560 but I mean, it would be a lot tougher for 1:15:52.640 --> 1:15:54.519 Thomas start to put out vacation had he not at 1:15:54.560 --> 1:15:57.639 Die Happy Man. You know. So you know, and we'll 1:15:57.760 --> 1:15:59.880 end on this. What's frustrating for me is I wish 1:16:00.040 --> 1:16:04.000 there were a way because people aren't buying music as much, 1:16:04.560 --> 1:16:08.679 they're streaming it more. Not totally, but a large market 1:16:08.720 --> 1:16:11.799 share is streaming music. I wish there was a legitimate 1:16:11.880 --> 1:16:13.479 way to see how many people are playing the song 1:16:13.520 --> 1:16:17.080 because we're not knowing people's algorithms. Sure, I've said this before. 1:16:17.160 --> 1:16:19.160 A Spotify, for example, I have friends that have thirteen 1:16:19.200 --> 1:16:21.599 million plays on a song and they can't sell fifty 1:16:21.600 --> 1:16:23.680 people at a bar. It's true. And then I have 1:16:23.840 --> 1:16:26.080 some friends that have three hundred thousand and they can 1:16:26.200 --> 1:16:29.840 sell hard tickets. It's interesting. It's so weird. What's the metric? 1:16:29.880 --> 1:16:31.679 You know? How do you? They don't tell us? Yeah, 1:16:31.760 --> 1:16:35.200 they also Apple also doesn't reveal theirs. No one reveals theirs. 1:16:35.880 --> 1:16:38.120 But I wish there was some kind of real like 1:16:38.560 --> 1:16:40.479 this is how I would do it in a perfect world. 1:16:40.840 --> 1:16:42.599 First of all, there would be legislation, but there should 1:16:42.600 --> 1:16:46.439 be any way for songwriters. Sure, but in order to 1:16:47.240 --> 1:16:49.400 say a song played this much because it's used for data, 1:16:49.840 --> 1:16:54.320 it has to actually be played singularly for a certain 1:16:54.320 --> 1:16:56.360 amount of time. Sure, we don't know if a song 1:16:56.520 --> 1:16:58.120 is just on a playlist. If one song gets played 1:16:58.120 --> 1:17:00.200 on the place, everybody gets an account of a spin, yeah, 1:17:00.200 --> 1:17:03.040 I don't know. Nobody knows, and it probably doesn't. But 1:17:03.200 --> 1:17:04.439 we don't know. And I wish there was a way 1:17:04.439 --> 1:17:08.360 to quantify that. But since it's all private, they don't 1:17:08.400 --> 1:17:11.040 have to. I just wish there were away because it 1:17:11.040 --> 1:17:13.200 would make my life easier to go, oh, that's what 1:17:13.280 --> 1:17:17.000 people are really listening to sure, because music with Spotify 1:17:17.120 --> 1:17:21.000 with title that you can't look at those numbers because 1:17:21.040 --> 1:17:24.640 again they're artists. I've never even heard of that. And 1:17:24.760 --> 1:17:28.080 I have no problem with people gaming the system, buying 1:17:28.120 --> 1:17:30.880 YouTube views, buying that's just part of the game. I'm 1:17:30.880 --> 1:17:34.360 always going to happen else and I've been guilty of 1:17:34.439 --> 1:17:39.200 it too. Yeah, you can't fake Heaven tickets and Absolute Metric. 1:17:39.400 --> 1:17:40.960 What I've ever used it for when I gamed the 1:17:41.000 --> 1:17:45.439 system is too like to get guests. When I was 1:17:45.840 --> 1:17:48.000 starting off in Austin, right right, I would do all 1:17:48.040 --> 1:17:49.679 this stuff and make the show look bigger because people 1:17:49.680 --> 1:17:51.080 didn't know the show would see the number, go oh, 1:17:51.080 --> 1:17:53.559 they must be bigger. Let them book. It was always 1:17:53.560 --> 1:17:55.800 for a letter pressed too. We'll get a hit up 1:17:55.800 --> 1:17:58.200 for an interview. It's like this blog gets this many 1:17:58.240 --> 1:18:00.360 million views or whatever, and we're like, it seems like 1:18:00.360 --> 1:18:02.600 a great opportunity, let's do it. And it's like, is 1:18:02.640 --> 1:18:05.519 that real? I don't know, nothing is real. Yeah, And 1:18:05.680 --> 1:18:08.280 as long as you know nothing is real right now, 1:18:08.320 --> 1:18:12.280 we might have goggles on. So my point is I 1:18:12.320 --> 1:18:14.559 wish there was some sort of thing to look at 1:18:14.840 --> 1:18:16.960 where they used to actually beat record sales but even 1:18:17.000 --> 1:18:19.400 then people would buy it bulk records themselves. It was 1:18:19.560 --> 1:18:22.479 maybe even easier than for just the common common artists 1:18:22.520 --> 1:18:25.240 to do it. Nothing is real. The only thing it's 1:18:25.280 --> 1:18:27.719 real are people's faces that come to shows and buy tickets. 1:18:27.800 --> 1:18:29.920 That's the only real thing. Now is a great time 1:18:30.000 --> 1:18:32.439 to be a new artist, though, because there's so many 1:18:32.479 --> 1:18:34.640 platforms to get your music out there. You and you 1:18:34.720 --> 1:18:36.559 can make music in your bedroom. You could blow up 1:18:36.560 --> 1:18:38.519 a laptop. We made our first record on my laptop. 1:18:38.600 --> 1:18:40.360 You know you can with technology. I agree. Here's where 1:18:40.360 --> 1:18:45.320 I disagree. Counterpoint, there's so many new artists because that 1:18:45.479 --> 1:18:47.880 makes your job harder. It makes radio, it makes even 1:18:47.920 --> 1:18:50.920 the artist job harder. But it makes the quality better 1:18:51.200 --> 1:18:53.800 because that many more people are competing. So as the consumer, 1:18:54.120 --> 1:18:57.120 it makes it better for us exactly because what we're 1:18:57.160 --> 1:18:59.320 getting into is the best of the best of the best. 1:18:59.479 --> 1:19:01.880 It's real good. Yeah. I mean, there's some really good 1:19:01.880 --> 1:19:04.240 songs on country radio and they're all fighting for that 1:19:04.320 --> 1:19:05.920 same spot. It is hard to get a song up 1:19:05.960 --> 1:19:08.160 the chart, and the charges stupid don't even start about 1:19:08.160 --> 1:19:11.080 the charts either. And there's so many songs and they're 1:19:11.080 --> 1:19:13.840 all great because they're not all great. There's a big 1:19:13.880 --> 1:19:18.080 turns or if you look on YouTube, you look up 1:19:18.320 --> 1:19:20.519 so and so's cover of certain songs, Like so many 1:19:20.560 --> 1:19:22.599 of these kids should all have record deals. They're all 1:19:22.640 --> 1:19:25.000 great because are you know most of them are great 1:19:25.040 --> 1:19:27.680 because I don't know, there's other people that are doing it. 1:19:27.760 --> 1:19:30.160 There's just like a lot I don't know. The access is, 1:19:30.200 --> 1:19:33.120 there's so much access, and yeah, it's a little oversaturated 1:19:33.120 --> 1:19:35.160 when you're an artist and you'd like, crap, he's really 1:19:35.200 --> 1:19:37.240 good too. But for the consumer, you're right, there is 1:19:37.240 --> 1:19:39.880 so much good stuff and it's it's the access for it. 1:19:40.000 --> 1:19:43.680 You can listen anywhere Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon, I mean 1:19:44.120 --> 1:19:46.960 I didn't even mention Amazon, like that's a huge infrastructure. 1:19:46.960 --> 1:19:51.599 There's a lot. Well, uh, tequila is out. While we're 1:19:51.600 --> 1:19:54.479 looking at time frame for a full record, I'm working 1:19:54.520 --> 1:19:56.160 on it tonight. I was working on them today. So 1:19:56.280 --> 1:19:58.720 we're we're in the process right now. We've recorded maybe 1:19:58.800 --> 1:20:02.880 like ten second quarter year sometime this year. Yeah, middle 1:20:02.880 --> 1:20:05.080 of the area. Yeah, we'll probably sprinkle out a few 1:20:05.120 --> 1:20:07.800 songs and in the meantime, but um pumps when we 1:20:07.920 --> 1:20:09.439 when we hang up here, I'll play you a few things. 1:20:09.479 --> 1:20:11.439 Are we on the phone right now we are. I 1:20:11.439 --> 1:20:14.080 don't listen. I don't listen to songs. You just don't 1:20:14.120 --> 1:20:16.439 like songs. No, no, no, I don't listen to songs. Early. 1:20:16.760 --> 1:20:19.120 I've come from my friends. Yeah, the only people I'll 1:20:19.120 --> 1:20:22.599 listen to you. When Keith Urban sent you a song once, yeah, 1:20:22.800 --> 1:20:24.240 he brought you how to listen to I Just when 1:20:24.360 --> 1:20:27.880 Keith sends you this song come on, you were literally 1:20:27.960 --> 1:20:29.840 blew up and it said Keith on it and I 1:20:29.960 --> 1:20:31.920 was like Keith who, And You're like you try to 1:20:31.960 --> 1:20:33.920 play it off? And it was Keith Urban sent a 1:20:33.960 --> 1:20:35.800 new song or a demo. For some reason, he does 1:20:35.840 --> 1:20:38.120 send me new every time he sends me new songs, 1:20:38.160 --> 1:20:39.880 like two or three weeks. He's in the league of 1:20:39.880 --> 1:20:42.479 his own. He's the coolest guy. Yeah, he is. When 1:20:42.479 --> 1:20:43.960 he was on your show and he was playing the 1:20:44.040 --> 1:20:46.720 mashup of all his hits, I was like, yeah, he 1:20:46.840 --> 1:20:50.040 just wins. He he is. I don't want to gush 1:20:50.040 --> 1:20:51.800 about him too much, but he is. He's awesome. Yeah, 1:20:51.880 --> 1:20:55.440 and as a person even better as an artist, insane, 1:20:55.840 --> 1:20:58.799 just like elevates the game every single time, and anybody 1:20:58.840 --> 1:21:00.519 that works with goes oh oh yeah. I used to 1:21:00.560 --> 1:21:02.720 think somebody was good and took Keith got in. It's 1:21:02.920 --> 1:21:06.479 kind of like humiliating sometimes, you know. So I don't 1:21:06.520 --> 1:21:08.960 listen to music because here's why I hate having to 1:21:09.080 --> 1:21:13.640 do the oh yeah, oh yeah. And if I do 1:21:13.760 --> 1:21:15.720 listen to music, I do it and it's so rare. 1:21:15.760 --> 1:21:17.559 I wouldn't even listen to the Stapleton's record. He sent 1:21:17.640 --> 1:21:19.400 it to me early, say Chris, I'm not gonna listen 1:21:19.400 --> 1:21:22.360 to it because I want to experience it with my people. 1:21:22.439 --> 1:21:27.040 That's cool. I like that. So yeah, I probably listen 1:21:27.040 --> 1:21:28.840 to the kids if it was a single over a text. 1:21:29.479 --> 1:21:33.479 But you and I, as I'm thinking about listening to music. 1:21:33.640 --> 1:21:36.240 We had an early bond over Walker Hayes too, Yes, 1:21:36.600 --> 1:21:38.720 because when I first heard I was like oh and 1:21:38.760 --> 1:21:40.280 you were like oh you text me like, oh yeah, 1:21:40.320 --> 1:21:41.880 it's off the wall. Listen to Halloween. Yeah. We took 1:21:41.960 --> 1:21:45.200 him on tour and so did you. Yeah. Yeah, he's 1:21:45.240 --> 1:21:48.640 prolific too. Have your words smith Man, You've written a 1:21:48.640 --> 1:21:50.519 song with the movie. Yes, we wrote Nama stay Together, 1:21:50.640 --> 1:21:54.040 oh sick. Yeah, he's brilliant. He's another guy who's like 1:21:54.120 --> 1:21:56.000 one step ahead of everybody in the room. You just 1:21:56.120 --> 1:21:58.120 can't catch up. So you just go along for the ride. 1:21:58.160 --> 1:22:01.200 When he starts using words, he's a it's insane and 1:22:01.320 --> 1:22:05.200 his flow, his jawline go on and gone on, shoulders, 1:22:05.320 --> 1:22:11.439 shoulders of a pretty beef. He's insane and he's got 1:22:11.920 --> 1:22:13.799 He had all his kids. So we were to Amy's. 1:22:14.479 --> 1:22:16.360 Might be three more minutes and I'll be done. I'm 1:22:16.400 --> 1:22:18.800 here all night. We could literally do this three hours 1:22:18.840 --> 1:22:21.680 and just talk about music. But um we went over 1:22:21.800 --> 1:22:24.519 to uh when Amy's kids came in from haiti Ye. 1:22:24.720 --> 1:22:26.920 So some friends came over to Amy's and it was 1:22:27.000 --> 1:22:29.320 all just people in our circle, yeah, because it was 1:22:29.320 --> 1:22:32.280 a very personal thing for her and totally but in 1:22:32.400 --> 1:22:35.200 our circle there are some artists and it was Walker, 1:22:35.320 --> 1:22:38.160 it was Eric Passley, it was Steve Mockler. I grew 1:22:38.240 --> 1:22:42.360 up with Steve. Really my guy. Yeah, nicest guy, the best, 1:22:42.600 --> 1:22:46.360 I mean him, a great sound, nice, the nicest people. 1:22:46.640 --> 1:22:50.240 So another brilliant songwriter in word Smith walk ahead his 1:22:50.360 --> 1:22:55.600 kids and all uh six of them were there and 1:22:55.680 --> 1:22:56.960 it was the first time I'd ever seen them all 1:22:56.960 --> 1:23:00.559 together at one point and it was really this story. 1:23:00.800 --> 1:23:03.360 But they're all like and they're all so well behaved. 1:23:03.439 --> 1:23:07.160 He's so fertile, so fertile yas so buff and fertile 1:23:07.360 --> 1:23:10.320 man he was. We were out on tour Thomas Rhett 1:23:10.360 --> 1:23:11.479 and Walker was on the tour as well, and he 1:23:11.520 --> 1:23:13.040 brought him all out and they were like they would 1:23:13.040 --> 1:23:14.640 all sit down, they would It was like they were 1:23:14.680 --> 1:23:17.560 so well be well mannered. Yeah, he showed up and 1:23:18.000 --> 1:23:20.360 we um if we played a show where we didn't 1:23:20.360 --> 1:23:22.400 fly because he opened for me doing stand up, which 1:23:22.520 --> 1:23:24.240 he was the perfect opener because he had so much 1:23:24.320 --> 1:23:27.280 energy even by himself with the loop pedal. Yes, So 1:23:27.880 --> 1:23:29.160 he shows up and I said, oh, you got a 1:23:29.240 --> 1:23:31.680 new bus, like a small like sprinter van. Yeah, it's like, 1:23:31.720 --> 1:23:33.439 hey gotta He was, no, no, no, that's just our 1:23:33.479 --> 1:23:35.800 family car. He said, I just drove it. I mean 1:23:36.280 --> 1:23:37.519 when you have six kids, you have to have a 1:23:37.560 --> 1:23:40.200 big audio bill. Yep. They rented like a church fan 1:23:40.320 --> 1:23:41.920 or something when we were out and he had to 1:23:42.160 --> 1:23:44.280 drive the kids. Really his wife Land. He's awesome too. 1:23:44.439 --> 1:23:46.000 He's a guy that I really root for. Man. He 1:23:46.520 --> 1:23:48.679 obviously loved the music when I heard it online first, 1:23:48.720 --> 1:23:50.960 that's hit you about it, and we talked about Halloween, 1:23:51.080 --> 1:23:53.400 but getting no him out on the road, like hearing 1:23:53.439 --> 1:23:55.880 his story and when I heard that Craig's I honestly 1:23:55.920 --> 1:23:58.760 crowd when I didn't do so. I texted him immediately 1:23:58.880 --> 1:24:00.800 because I wouldn't listen to it earlier. We were crying 1:24:00.840 --> 1:24:02.799 thinking about it. Right now, we're working on my stuff 1:24:03.240 --> 1:24:06.479 and Walker was producing it because we wrote that song together. 1:24:06.479 --> 1:24:07.920 And then I said, Walk, are you produce? He's I 1:24:07.960 --> 1:24:09.720 never produced anything. I was like, it doesn't matter if 1:24:09.760 --> 1:24:12.519 you have that instinct. You have that instinct. So we 1:24:12.600 --> 1:24:13.920 go on. He's producing it, he's I want you to 1:24:14.000 --> 1:24:17.519 hear Craig. I said, we wrote it at the shack. Yeah, 1:24:17.800 --> 1:24:21.479 we produced at a different place, but we did write 1:24:21.479 --> 1:24:24.120 it in the shack. And so then I said, I'm 1:24:24.120 --> 1:24:26.680 not gonna listen to any song with you. But then 1:24:26.760 --> 1:24:29.040 I had it. When it came out, I bought the 1:24:29.120 --> 1:24:31.400 record and I listened to Craig and I cried and 1:24:31.479 --> 1:24:33.040 I don't cry, and I text them, I said, ude, 1:24:33.040 --> 1:24:34.720 I just cried during the song. I was so in. 1:24:34.840 --> 1:24:36.120 We were in Europe and I was like on the 1:24:36.200 --> 1:24:39.200 treadmill and I literally heard him start and I had 1:24:39.200 --> 1:24:40.880 to get off the treadmill and like listen to the words, 1:24:40.920 --> 1:24:42.840 and I broke. It was insane. I played it on 1:24:42.880 --> 1:24:46.439 the show and I played it twice and I think 1:24:46.439 --> 1:24:48.360 I went to number seven. I wasn't even the top 1:24:48.400 --> 1:24:51.599 two hundred. But that's how. That's how not a mean thing. 1:24:51.680 --> 1:24:54.639 That's my listeners. Yeah, it cut through to them so hard, 1:24:54.720 --> 1:24:57.639 so quick. Yeah, you listen. They're smart and they they've 1:24:57.880 --> 1:24:59.680 picked songs like I mean, that's kind of what we're 1:24:59.720 --> 1:25:01.880 trying to do with this next record is pick songs 1:25:01.960 --> 1:25:04.479 that make people feel something, made people react. Don't just 1:25:04.560 --> 1:25:07.360 pick it because it's up tempo and sounds like you know, 1:25:07.439 --> 1:25:09.799 quote unquote what a hit would sound like if somebody 1:25:09.840 --> 1:25:11.439 if we had a song like Craig and played it 1:25:11.479 --> 1:25:13.400 for people and they reacted like that. I don't know. 1:25:13.479 --> 1:25:15.559 I hope a guy like Walker Hayes will take chances 1:25:15.560 --> 1:25:17.719 and put songs like that out of his singles because 1:25:17.800 --> 1:25:21.519 like he can change the game with that. Yeah he can. Well, 1:25:21.880 --> 1:25:23.880 we're gonna wrap. This has been one of the longer 1:25:23.960 --> 1:25:27.720 ones in the history because time had no measurement as 1:25:27.720 --> 1:25:29.240 we were talking. That's right. It was like one of 1:25:29.280 --> 1:25:31.200 those first dates we've known each other, wild one tho. 1:25:31.240 --> 1:25:32.840 First dates where time just goes by and you all 1:25:32.840 --> 1:25:34.080 of a sudden you look up at six am and 1:25:34.120 --> 1:25:35.719 the Sun's coming out. Still need to hear the Colby 1:25:35.800 --> 1:25:38.400 kel story. Yeah yeah, next time. Yep, we got it, 1:25:38.560 --> 1:25:42.120 next time, Okay, Dan smiles. From Dan and Shay, we 1:25:42.320 --> 1:25:44.360 learned which I wanted to know a lot of pre 1:25:44.560 --> 1:25:46.360 Dan and Shay. You can find all the Dana Shay 1:25:46.360 --> 1:25:49.040 stuff online just google it. Yep. I didn't know a lot. 1:25:49.080 --> 1:25:50.639 I didn't know you played running back in high school. 1:25:50.640 --> 1:25:52.320 I didn't know you played college football. I didn't a 1:25:52.360 --> 1:25:53.960 lot of stuff I didn't know. Yeah, I know you're 1:25:54.280 --> 1:25:58.360 stealing from the man. Apologize for that. Get them back 1:25:58.560 --> 1:26:01.320 all right, Thank you very much. What episodes US ninety 1:26:01.400 --> 1:26:03.719 eight with Dan Smyers. Thank you very much for listening 1:26:03.760 --> 1:26:07.240 to the podcast. And Danielle Bradbery should be in a 1:26:07.280 --> 1:26:10.120 couple of days, right, two days? Yeah, yeah, we had 1:26:10.160 --> 1:26:13.240 to postpone that one because of the ice, so that'd 1:26:13.280 --> 1:26:14.439 be the next one out. Thank you very much. We'll 1:26:14.439 --> 1:26:15.120 see you next time. Bye.