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Speaker 1: Network alongside Frankie stamvill i Am Gregg was Happy Foxing
Speaker 1: Day here as well on a hump Day week seventeen.
Speaker 1: Congratulations to everyone's still celebrating your fantasy football championship. And
Speaker 1: for everyone celebrating, there's someone on the other side in misery,
Speaker 1: like our good buddy Michael Florida didn't work out. Florida
Speaker 1: did not work out for Florio in my home league
Speaker 1: up one point going into Monday Night football, his Tim
Speaker 1: Patrick against Derek Carr four point Passing Touchdown League Florida
Speaker 1: loses by zero point to eight Fantasy Points and claims, quote,
Speaker 1: find a new owner. I quit. Oh my god, a man,
Speaker 1: huh point to eight in the finals with Tim Patrick
Speaker 1: against the quarterback and you almost knew it? Game of inches?
Speaker 1: What about our FanDuel my dad wanted by zero point
Speaker 1: zero eight? Jared cook Jared cook Man, that's coming in right?
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to come in one day? When's that?
Speaker 1: God bless you? Greg Tusman. Whenever you want it mean whenever,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Whenever we need to stup to your dad.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Whenever we need to fill some great yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: So how did your Christmas? Man? Would you do one thing?
Speaker 1: Christmas Eve? Christmas? We were out of here, like just
Speaker 1: the two of us working Christmas Eve. By the way,
Speaker 1: we don't want the BFFs friends. He's done. We walked
Speaker 1: down stairs. It's just just lost the BFFs. The only
Speaker 1: people in this place working, the two of us. I
Speaker 1: just looked. I just looked around, and Frank's like, listen,
Speaker 1: you can go home. Yeah, I mean, come on, man,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna keep you around. And I'm like, you know, what. No, No,
Speaker 1: I will not go home, Frank. I will stay as
Speaker 1: long as you you are here. I'm the resident, the
Speaker 1: resident Jew who doesn't celebrate Christmas. I will be here
Speaker 1: as long as I must. Come on, man, you gotta
Speaker 1: keep the Chinese food places open on Christmas. Money. But
Speaker 1: you know, as I said, as you heard in the promo,
Speaker 1: nice steak Christmas Eve, Nice steak Netflix and no no,
Speaker 1: we're wrestling in chill. It was Netflix and jail. Judy
Speaker 1: was very unhappy with the movie selection. Um, she hated it.
Speaker 1: So we had to watch the movie. Were you watching
Speaker 1: m Roma? Not good? Oh? Speaking of which, Bovona Vona
Speaker 1: grabbing Mike. You know to watch several I need to
Speaker 1: know your review of love. Actually we have to watch
Speaker 1: several cooking shows. Not as bad as I thought. Oh,
Speaker 1: come on, not the right response. Not good at all,
Speaker 1: but not terrible, Like it wasn't like I've seen a
Speaker 1: hell of a lot worse. All right, Well, everything I
Speaker 1: said on Monday about like people either loving or hating
Speaker 1: that movie, because Bovona is right in the middle. There
Speaker 1: you go. Uh, Christmas Eve for me went exactly how
Speaker 1: I thought it would go. Um, fish soup in it's bad.
Speaker 1: The mushroom soup was not good. Um, all the other
Speaker 1: soups were great. I'm a big soup guy, big soup guy.
Speaker 1: Ate the fish. Uh chill. Some beers went to church? Now?
Speaker 1: You drunk at church? No? I drank like three beers before.
Speaker 1: Nothing crazy, not like eight percent. I p a beers either, Greg,
Speaker 1: little bus church? Yea, No? Nothing Now was Christmas from
Speaker 1: I'm a very bad Christian man? Why? Well, first of all,
Speaker 1: I didn't just go to church Greg. The past few years.
Speaker 1: Our tradition is we actually sing in the choir, Greg,
Speaker 1: which is like up in the rafters behind it, like
Speaker 1: no one actually sees us, but they hear us sing
Speaker 1: Christmas songs. Whatever. Right, I'm sitting on the side. I
Speaker 1: got the Rag and Broncos game going on, myst I'm sorry, man, dude,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm up ten and a half. I'm going I'm
Speaker 1: going against Philip Lindsay. I'm sweating it out over here.
Speaker 1: I end up winning, unfortunately because Philip Lindsay got hurt.
Speaker 1: But fortunately for me, I won. So I made it
Speaker 1: the two championships. I one Bowl championships. Very excited about that.
Speaker 1: My I needed to know what was happening here. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: you're not You're not great. I mean, look, I gave
Speaker 1: you a prerequisite on Monday. Anyway, I'm not a very
Speaker 1: religious person. I understand that what do you want Christmas? Christmas?
Speaker 1: Pretty normal? Woke up some some mimosas, some pancakes, Greg nice,
Speaker 1: exchange some gifts with Kinda. Would you get anything good? Uh?
Speaker 1: She actually got me a podcasting microphone everyone to do
Speaker 1: stuff from home. It's great. Yeah, so that's really helpful.
Speaker 1: That was awesome. Um, and then I got it was
Speaker 1: like a bunch of clothes, Like I told you, I
Speaker 1: got a gift card to Uni Clothes. I'll use that
Speaker 1: some like wintry stuff, socks, hats like you know, the usual.
Speaker 1: It was. It was great stuff. Took some shots, obviously
Speaker 1: very Christmas in my house, very big shot holiday. We
Speaker 1: got the gym being Maple going Gregg. You gotta try
Speaker 1: this stuff. Have you tried this, Jim being Maple? It
Speaker 1: tastes like syrup, like you can legitimately put it on
Speaker 1: your pancakes and eat them. And it's for alcohol and
Speaker 1: it doesn't taste like any alcohol. So did you do that?
Speaker 1: I did not, But it was amazing. And we also
Speaker 1: had the Captain Morgan pumpkin blasting, which have you ever
Speaker 1: ever had? That? It was Christmas? A lot of shots?
Speaker 1: Could he use the day off today? Like I told
Speaker 1: you the other day? Didn't you never question early enough?
Speaker 1: Apparently I looked this up too. In European countries, today
Speaker 1: is second Christmas right where you have off? I told
Speaker 1: you what do we have off? Greg? My entire background background.
Speaker 1: I got twenty three and meat Kid so I can
Speaker 1: find out roots of Frank Stamfle. It's kind of everyone
Speaker 1: else and my family has done already, so like by
Speaker 1: deduction I could kind of. But it's like, this is
Speaker 1: how they get you to buy it, right, The more
Speaker 1: people from your family that purchase the twenty three Meat Kids,
Speaker 1: they can go back farther and farther because they have
Speaker 1: like more genealogy. That's how they like, how they get
Speaker 1: a bunch of people to get My sister would always
Speaker 1: tell me when there were sales on this thing, because
Speaker 1: she's like, I really want to know what you are.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not spending my own money on this,
Speaker 1: so you spend her own money on it? There you go,
Speaker 1: what does you want to know? Your brother and sister
Speaker 1: whenever you are she is because, like I said, if
Speaker 1: she gets me the kid, then they go back further
Speaker 1: and find out like specifically what we are stupid because
Speaker 1: my whole life we grew up, we're like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: we're like mostly German, we're Irish, Italian they do the
Speaker 1: twenty three kits. No Italian ever? All right, my last
Speaker 1: kind of lie. But whatever, your whole life I mean,
Speaker 1: but I don't speak another language anything, Like I'm American.
Speaker 1: I'm a mutt. That's what i am. I'm like eight
Speaker 1: different European things together. So it's I don't like I'm
Speaker 1: excited about it. I'm excited to find out I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna poopoo a gift. Thank you very appreciative. How was
Speaker 1: your Christmas? It was good. We played a lot of
Speaker 1: Rummy Cube. Do they game? What Rummy Cube? Rummy Cube? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a budd game. A while we were at Judy's
Speaker 1: family friends. I've played a lot of games that it's
Speaker 1: very competitive. I think people will call me out from
Speaker 1: being as competitive as I am, which is. But did
Speaker 1: Judy's family get a TV this year? It's a family friends,
Speaker 1: family friends. Did they get a TV? Still? No? TV,
Speaker 1: So no basketball for you, sorry, bud Okay, I'm saying,
Speaker 1: pretty good day of basketball. Yeah I look like it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it looks like it. Sure you watch your extensive highlights
Speaker 1: when you got home. I watched my extensive highlights when
Speaker 1: I got home, exactly. Um yeah, so you know what's funny,
Speaker 1: So you know what you're talking about? Luck in my
Speaker 1: home league on Monday show, No not and no look
Speaker 1: in my show and the and the team, that one
Speaker 1: lucky thing. So one of my friends just said that
Speaker 1: to our group chat. He's like, hey, did you listen
Speaker 1: to the BFS? You should listen to it that everyone
Speaker 1: who's listening to they all subscribed. Finally, it was like,
Speaker 1: guys have been doing the show for well, I mean
Speaker 1: it was just three episodes or whatever. Now you're subscribing.
Speaker 1: Now you're listening. Like, guys, I talk about our league
Speaker 1: all the time. I literally talk about it on our
Speaker 1: draft I tell you who I like every single show
Speaker 1: that we do, I talk about it. And this version
Speaker 1: of BFS, like we've been doing the show together for
Speaker 1: a year and a half. Ye I wasn't gonna be
Speaker 1: a half for you. There's a different show. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: like since we've been doing the BFS. I've talked about
Speaker 1: my league. What I want to do, what people in
Speaker 1: my league do. The waivers. I go over waiver claims,
Speaker 1: I tell you exactly how much I'm going to bid
Speaker 1: on players. And just now they're like, you were talking
Speaker 1: about our league. You were talking about you said you
Speaker 1: were rooting for me. Like, yeah, I know, I said that.
Speaker 1: I say this all the time who I'm rooting for.
Speaker 1: Now you're catching on, and I know they're gonna hear
Speaker 1: this too, finally, and I'm glad you're gonna hear this
Speaker 1: because it means you're actually listening and supporting. There you go,
Speaker 1: and Michael Florio actually did what you were supposed to,
Speaker 1: and he listened in the middle of the year, and
Speaker 1: you found out how much I was gonna be against
Speaker 1: me what we're saying. I think the player was Anthony Miller. Actually,
Speaker 1: so I'm actually pretty miser loser. He did lose. Hey,
Speaker 1: speaking of Michael Florio um and losers here, I do
Speaker 1: want to say that tomorrow morning here on the Fantasy
Speaker 1: Sports Network, we're doing a bit of a year review.
Speaker 1: It'll be your BFFs, myself, Frank Staffle, And is that confirmed,
Speaker 1: not completely. I think so he's never given me like
Speaker 1: a defensive and we think Michael Florio. We do a
Speaker 1: year in review program with the Goon Squad, Chris Ventra,
Speaker 1: Corey Parson, Jim Day all six of months from the
Speaker 1: afternoon shows together one room or visa Skype uh together
Speaker 1: four an hour tomorrow at ten thirty ish a m.
Speaker 1: Eastern time. We're gonna do it for an hours to
Speaker 1: be a year interview show. We're gonna get together. We
Speaker 1: all gonna do is. We're gonna settle the feud once
Speaker 1: and for all. The only way do you know, how
Speaker 1: are you probably more about fantasy before there you go?
Speaker 1: So that's there, you guy. I know you guys are
Speaker 1: arguing today, um about wide receivers and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure all the arguments will continue and into
Speaker 1: our year review programming on Thursday. On Friday, ten thirty
Speaker 1: eight Eastern time, Corey Parcel Junior year Review with Maria Marino,
Speaker 1: who will be in studio all right to do a
Speaker 1: year in review with Corey. And we're not just talking
Speaker 1: about football toim a baseball. I'm trying to get some
Speaker 1: wrestling references on Corey. We gotta get by the way
Speaker 1: next month in January, we neither Johnny Staffelin little Royal
Speaker 1: rumble action. We gotta do the Royal preview Johnny standfill.
Speaker 1: It's a tradition, right, because what's the latest rumors like
Speaker 1: seth Rawlins or something like that. I like I heard
Speaker 1: him talking about I believe it seth Rawlins or Drew
Speaker 1: McIntyre or that's you. Yeah, but you know what, we
Speaker 1: always go into the rumbles saying we know who's gonna win,
Speaker 1: and then we never get it read we're talking we're
Speaker 1: always right, get right every year? Yes, maybe yeah, I
Speaker 1: get it wrong every year. Maybe you get it right
Speaker 1: because like the tape Johnny Stanfield yourself, but never get
Speaker 1: it wrong. All right, I mean that sounds right. I agreed.
Speaker 1: I probably don't get it probably not anyway. Yes, um,
Speaker 1: you got lab preview. In January, we got on baseball es.
Speaker 1: Let's do something fun. Oh there you go. It's finally working.
Speaker 1: I was clicking on this for like the past five
Speaker 1: minutes to try and open up our YouTube link was
Speaker 1: not work. Let it started working. Yeah, I need a
Speaker 1: new laptop, Greig. You know, if you get one of them,
Speaker 1: get me one of those for Christmas would be great.
Speaker 1: I offered you one, by the way, he turned it down.
Speaker 1: Don't think so you turned to down? Alright, well you
Speaker 1: remember that's gonna stop doing this thing, Greg, What do
Speaker 1: you want to talk about today? I mean we've been
Speaker 1: talking for a while now, we haven't like talked about
Speaker 1: anything useful yet. What do you want? What's useful? It
Speaker 1: was like a week sevent teams that useful? You were
Speaker 1: talking about things we got right all year? Is that useful?
Speaker 1: Think about talking about things we got wrong all year?
Speaker 1: Is that useful? You want baseball to my basketball was
Speaker 1: a wrestling? What do you want to talk about? I
Speaker 1: tweeted before the show from the BFF account that you know,
Speaker 1: I would actually really like your prediction of Lashaw McCoy
Speaker 1: to the chief. I'm kind of pumping it out right now.
Speaker 1: I've been advertising you multiple places, so I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: Greg said, you think so Shaan McCoy is gonna go
Speaker 1: to the Chiefs, And the more I think about it,
Speaker 1: I kind of sense it. Actually it doesn't make a
Speaker 1: lot of sense. So I put up a poll beforehand,
Speaker 1: say asking people, you know, who do you think is
Speaker 1: gonna be the chief? Running back McCoy Levian Bell a
Speaker 1: rookie because they drafted Kareem Hunt just like last year
Speaker 1: and he was awesome, so they could do that again,
Speaker 1: or other you could write in maybe Damian Williams is
Speaker 1: a starter again next year. Probably not, but we already
Speaker 1: got a response thing, what are you talking about Fantasy Baseball? Yes,
Speaker 1: I saw that. It's it's December twenty six, so maybe
Speaker 1: we do like a hot stove review at some point
Speaker 1: to like, hey, here's all the things that have happened
Speaker 1: how it affects Fantasy baseball, because we haven't spoken about
Speaker 1: we're doing that show right No, not right now what
Speaker 1: we're saying at some point. Yeah, it's like that's still
Speaker 1: overview you want to talk about, like the way my
Speaker 1: dad shimed in just now. By the way, So you
Speaker 1: trying to click the BFF YouTube like it's been all
Speaker 1: the since the beginning of show. It's working fine, I
Speaker 1: know it's work you fin as well. If I can't click,
Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with the stream. No, thanks, crappy,
Speaker 1: My computer just doesn't work. I don't know. I've had
Speaker 1: it for frankute. This is a big day, you realize
Speaker 1: with today is December twenty six. The day I get
Speaker 1: to take this off, the day you get to rip
Speaker 1: off the note. Kno, no, no, no way, I want
Speaker 1: to do that. Jean's over come on. It's a nice
Speaker 1: little it's all over, rip it off. I don't want
Speaker 1: to do that right now. It's gonna make my laptop
Speaker 1: sticky and stuff sape. You know I'm gonna leave it.
Speaker 1: Reveryone was wondering what's going on. I always tape all
Speaker 1: my leagues here so I figure out where I have
Speaker 1: to do my waivers throughout the season because it's very
Speaker 1: hard to remember all my teams. So that's what Greg's
Speaker 1: referring to. You're not gonna do it? Do you play
Speaker 1: any weeks seventeen one? Yeah, if I think we have
Speaker 1: a few more spots available. We didn't feel completely great,
Speaker 1: good job, guys, Yeah, well we will do the Baseball
Speaker 1: Show at some point like what you messed. But the
Speaker 1: problem is nothing has happened in this like not nothing
Speaker 1: like Paul goals we got charges happened right. I thought
Speaker 1: the Mets line up was actually finally good. It's not
Speaker 1: so not. No, yeah, yeah, big stuff hasn't happened yet.
Speaker 1: James Paxson Chado and Bryce Harber. What do you think
Speaker 1: they signed? Well, it's already come off. That made me.
Speaker 1: Child is not going to sign until the new year.
Speaker 1: Greg Bryce Harper's signed like February, and it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a waiting game because they're gonna wait each other out
Speaker 1: and they're gonna try and use the other person's contract
Speaker 1: as leverage to get more money obviously, right, and we
Speaker 1: know that the person who's most likely going to do
Speaker 1: that as Bryce Harper. So any Child will sign first,
Speaker 1: it'll probably be I think you'll be signed. It was
Speaker 1: like very early January. What happens, right? The three front
Speaker 1: earns right now, the Yankees, the Phillies, and the White Sox.
Speaker 1: Right those are the only three teams you met with.
Speaker 1: That's it. And I don't know what, I don't know,
Speaker 1: surprised that there's not more interest. I mean, it's a
Speaker 1: lot of money, man, he's a lot of money investing
Speaker 1: in this guy. Like the Cubs kind of have a
Speaker 1: third baseman. His name is Chris Bryant. The thing is
Speaker 1: I've seen on Twitter, like people do actually talk about this,
Speaker 1: like fantasy baseball, and just like baseball Twitter in general,
Speaker 1: and any team can actually afford to sign Manny Machado
Speaker 1: who's not too correct. Well, like you have to think
Speaker 1: about it, like investing your money in a star like that,
Speaker 1: doesn't it also return money because more people are gonna
Speaker 1: want to come to the stadium and watch said player.
Speaker 1: And I mean, even if you're not completely relevant, if
Speaker 1: you're one step closer to relevance, you make a big
Speaker 1: splash like this, like ultimately you'll make the money back.
Speaker 1: I want ticket sales and stuff like that. No, doesn't
Speaker 1: that make sense? That makes sense? Sure? In type or anything.
Speaker 1: People trying to talk just talk to me? Then how
Speaker 1: does talk to you? Talk to me? Greg? Even the
Speaker 1: as fantasy analyst only gets about at a max of things, right,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've people hundredsent right, No, that's not true.
Speaker 1: Who get right people? The most accurate fantasy rankers of
Speaker 1: all time. I mean he's pretty accurate, but seriously, the
Speaker 1: most accurate fantasy like max right. I used to think,
Speaker 1: how we did? Oh, very good? Obviously, okay, sure, as
Speaker 1: look as long as more people are winning and losing,
Speaker 1: like you gotta be profitable. That's what we are. We
Speaker 1: told everyone last week. Jamal Williams, Elijah McGuire, Robbi Andrews,
Speaker 1: you realize the reason my dad won the BFF contest
Speaker 1: is because you just used the players that we talked
Speaker 1: about for Waiver Wire. Why didn't you do it? Because
Speaker 1: I'm dumb, Like, why don't I take my advice all
Speaker 1: the time. Well, if it would have took my own advice,
Speaker 1: would have drafted Alex Collins and Royce Freeman, would have
Speaker 1: a great team. All right, Yeah, we're actually awesome. When
Speaker 1: we get back, we're actually gonna te talk about that.
Speaker 1: Just that the guys that we pumped up, admittedly that
Speaker 1: everybody talks about. You listen to me, I would have
Speaker 1: now I nailed this guy. I told you this guy
Speaker 1: was gonna be awesome. That's true, and we did. But
Speaker 1: it's more fun for us to talk about the stuff
Speaker 1: that we just didn't get right at all. So when
Speaker 1: we go back, more about Alex Collins, more about roy Spreeman,
Speaker 1: Darius guys, all that stuff we got wrong that comes
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Speaker 1: tell the people what we got right and what we
Speaker 1: got wrong. Really, focusing on what we got wrong is
Speaker 1: worth fun. Absolutely yeah, So I want to start with
Speaker 1: before I really dive anywhere. I want to start your boy,
Speaker 1: Alexe Collins. You basically stood off on a chair right
Speaker 1: on this table, and you're like, and Alex Collins sucks,
Speaker 1: I'm going to suck because I grabbed him every air,
Speaker 1: every where. He is my guy. If Alex Collins suck,
Speaker 1: I suck. Do you suck? Well? The league where I
Speaker 1: did draft Alex Collins, I won a championship. I drafted
Speaker 1: Alex Collins over Joe Mixon in one league not great.
Speaker 1: I drafted him in the third round. I was taking
Speaker 1: him in the third round of lots of drafts and
Speaker 1: I still stand by it. And we got a little
Speaker 1: bit of an Adam Gay situation, and stand by it.
Speaker 1: I still stand by it. Because Greg looked the Ravens
Speaker 1: running back position was profitable position for fantasy. This year,
Speaker 1: it still was like when Alex Collins was playing, he
Speaker 1: was he was scoring touchdowns this year. Um yeah, let's see.
Speaker 1: He had seven rushing touchdowns and only ten games played.
Speaker 1: He also had a receiving touchdown. He had eight total
Speaker 1: touchdowns in ten games. So he wasn't getting the workload
Speaker 1: that we expected. That was super annoying, but it was
Speaker 1: still a profitable position because he looked at what guys
Speaker 1: like Gus Edwards stepped in and did imagine if Alex
Speaker 1: Collins had the opportunity to play the running back position
Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson, it would have been great. He did,
Speaker 1: and no he didn't. He never got to play with
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. Greg he was already on I R. He
Speaker 1: only played ten games, but it was the last six Jackson,
Speaker 1: but he had one. If he did, he either like
Speaker 1: didn't get many touches in that game or like didn't
Speaker 1: actually play. I still stand by it because the Ravens
Speaker 1: running back position was profitable for fantasy. It was just
Speaker 1: that John Harbaugh for whatever reason. We knew the reason
Speaker 1: it was because he was fumbling. He was fumbling a
Speaker 1: lot um But as the season went on he was
Speaker 1: starting to get used more in the red zone. But
Speaker 1: still would never have that game like where we get
Speaker 1: fifteen carries twenty carries, So a bit of a frustrating situation.
Speaker 1: I was definitely very high on Alex Collins. Kind of
Speaker 1: became like the face of like the Alex Collins Fantasy owner.
Speaker 1: That's my face, Alex Collins. Um it didn't work out.
Speaker 1: It didn't work out the way that I expected it
Speaker 1: to be. Now, this is a thing, Greg, do we
Speaker 1: do process over results because we'll talk about Royce Freeman.
Speaker 1: Everybody in the industry was high on Royce Freeman. And
Speaker 1: if you look at what Philip Lindsay did, if Royce
Speaker 1: Freeman would have just been what Philip Lindsay was, which
Speaker 1: is what we expected. But this is a process over
Speaker 1: results thing. Right, we were on the Bronks running back
Speaker 1: and roy gonna take credit for Philip Lindsay because nobody
Speaker 1: nobody was talking about Max was on Philip Lindsay. If
Speaker 1: he turns into the next Alvin Kamar, not quite close enough, Max,
Speaker 1: he got it right, He got it right. Phillip Lindsay
Speaker 1: was awesome. Let's see right now, he finished RB twelve.
Speaker 1: He's an RB one probably the way we're wire pick
Speaker 1: up of the year. Definitely. Do you kind of take
Speaker 1: something away from that where you're like, we knew the
Speaker 1: Broncos running back was gonna be good for fantasy, We
Speaker 1: just didn't know that an undrafted rookie free agent was
Speaker 1: gonna become in and be better than the third round
Speaker 1: pick that they drafted. Do We look at that like
Speaker 1: as a lesson, like, well, you know, we knew it
Speaker 1: was gonna be good for fantasy. You just didn't, like,
Speaker 1: we just got the wrong guy. I'm gonna answer that question. No,
Speaker 1: we got it wrong. No, absolutely, nass results. No, it's
Speaker 1: not in this case, because we thought Alex Collins and
Speaker 1: we thought Royce Freeman were good enough that we drafted
Speaker 1: Royce Freeman and Alex Collins on the third round, right like.
Speaker 1: We did this because we believe that these guys were
Speaker 1: going to be good enough that they were going to
Speaker 1: run away and have the opportunity to be in RV one. Potentially,
Speaker 1: we're certainly an RV two. They didn't Philip Lindsay and
Speaker 1: undrafted the free agent who was great, the Wavery Wire
Speaker 1: pick up of the year, was better than Royce Freeman.
Speaker 1: We were wrong about Royce Freeman. Yes, that's what matters.
Speaker 1: That's what matters that we like Royce Freeman because we
Speaker 1: thought he was a ast of the guys. We were
Speaker 1: definitely wrong. That's why we like being wrong about Royce Freeman. Wrong.
Speaker 1: Were you are Alex Collins? Were you kind of hated
Speaker 1: Alex Collins? I wanted to draft Derrick Henry over him.
Speaker 1: It was wrong about for like fourteen weeks. You know
Speaker 1: what's hilarious about that. Guess where Derrick Henry is right
Speaker 1: now in terms of running back frankings this season all
Speaker 1: RB fourteen. He's a fourteen. He's RB fourteen on the game,
Speaker 1: and he was drafted as RB eight team. So technically
Speaker 1: Derrick or Henry returned value, but he really only returned.
Speaker 1: And that's why next year, when you're doing everyone's like,
Speaker 1: that's why he cons the top fifteen running back. He scored,
Speaker 1: he scored fifteen touchdowns. We gotta draft Derrick Henry again.
Speaker 1: That's why next year. What don't you know what we
Speaker 1: always learned stuff? Right Like last year was like looking
Speaker 1: at the new offensive coordinators a whole time. When I'm
Speaker 1: looking at ranking players. Next year, I do ranked players.
Speaker 1: You get them on venmo. I'm going game. I'm going
Speaker 1: to look at the game, lonch before I rank them
Speaker 1: in by game like even like even like the fantasy
Speaker 1: points pre game or good we gotta do. We gotta
Speaker 1: find the consistency. We have to find the consistency because
Speaker 1: that's like, that's how I realized. I hate to say this,
Speaker 1: but that's how I realized that Julio Jones wasn't nearly
Speaker 1: as bad as we thought he was, because if you
Speaker 1: look at the game like that, that's pretty good. Last
Speaker 1: year we dove into a little bit more, and I
Speaker 1: think that's what we have to do. Like Derrick Henry,
Speaker 1: everybody will remember this playoff stretch and how amazing it was,
Speaker 1: how they turned the offense over to him, And what
Speaker 1: you'll see is, all right, so this is the Tennessee
Speaker 1: offense we're gonna get next year, right, Like, this is
Speaker 1: the offense that's going to be Derrick Henry, Derrick Herry,
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry. And maybe you're right, maybe they turn a
Speaker 1: new leaf. So Derrick Henry is like a weird choice,
Speaker 1: but more so than anybody else, like even in Antonio Brown.
Speaker 1: Like you're right, everyone's kind of before this past week
Speaker 1: especially you said it, it's not like Juju should ahead
Speaker 1: of Antonio Brown when you dive into that game long.
Speaker 1: I admit, it's a lot better than you realize. We
Speaker 1: we don't have to have I'm just saying. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's like it's like a fun exercise to do. We
Speaker 1: just keep talking about things we got wrong. We're going
Speaker 1: to that too, like I got obviously got O'Dell Beckham wrong.
Speaker 1: I'll tell your auction fantasy team that I did, and
Speaker 1: I've got a lot of crap. Five. So here we
Speaker 1: go from week one on Antonio Brown one sixty seven zero.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna say the catches all right? Zero six
Speaker 1: fifty one, five sixty two one six one on one
Speaker 1: he had a touchdown and one two, three, four or five, six, seven,
Speaker 1: eight consecutive games. Is also talk about consistency consecutive touchdown, Yes,
Speaker 1: but we can't ignore regression though. We can't ignore that.
Speaker 1: And you know touchdowns are the hardest thing to predict year. Yes,
Speaker 1: that is true, because what it's been at least double
Speaker 1: digit touchdowns three years in a row now, and it
Speaker 1: doesn't look like he's slowing down anytime soon. Don't we
Speaker 1: look at Antonio Brown like, if before the season I
Speaker 1: told you Antonio Brown was going to score fifteen touchdowns
Speaker 1: this year, Greg, what was the percentage chance he would
Speaker 1: have said that that that happens. I would have said,
Speaker 1: if that happens, he's one thousands at the wide receiver
Speaker 1: one overall touchdowns really at like thirty five percent, that's
Speaker 1: a lot of touchdowns. And and if he scored, I
Speaker 1: mean it would have been a lot lower for me.
Speaker 1: I probably would have given like a ten percent chance
Speaker 1: of that. Actually, really, fifteen touchdown touchdowns, I mean, this
Speaker 1: is a career high for him by far, so that
Speaker 1: the most the most he's had in any other year
Speaker 1: is thirteen fourteen. Last year he only had nine. And
Speaker 1: the Steelers are actually a team that's still alive technically
Speaker 1: and needs a play in Week seventeen, So I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be surprised if he scores another touchdown or another two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: And then we're looking at Antonio Brown next year and
Speaker 1: everyone's gonna see fifteen, sixteen, seventeen touchdowns whatever it might be,
Speaker 1: and be like, oh, well this is you know, he's
Speaker 1: the red zone target. He's gonna score touchdowns. False. Judu
Speaker 1: Smith Schuster has more red zone targets this year than
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown, and dude only has six touchdowns. And he
Speaker 1: plays in the slot, which you can argue if you're
Speaker 1: a slot receiver in the red zone and you're getting
Speaker 1: red zone targets, it's actually easier for you to score
Speaker 1: touchdowns and anybody else on the field. But I don't
Speaker 1: want this's number that like Antonio Brown is like old
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, because that was there was actually
Speaker 1: a really interesting article that I it like midway point
Speaker 1: in the season, which was talking about a lot of
Speaker 1: things that we've talked about. His yards per game we're down,
Speaker 1: his cash percentage was down, and it was basically saying,
Speaker 1: has Antonio Brown falling off a cliff play wise? And
Speaker 1: I think the answer to that is definitively no, Like,
Speaker 1: he hasn't fallen off a cliff. The guy has fifteen
Speaker 1: touchdowns and he's getting so as he fallen off a cliff, No,
Speaker 1: So I think that there was something kind of like
Speaker 1: off this year between him and Big Ben. I do
Speaker 1: because like when the cash percent like the cash percentage
Speaker 1: in the yards per game are definitely a thing, like
Speaker 1: the touchdowns have saved his fantasy performance, but there have
Speaker 1: been times this year where you're watching the Steelers and
Speaker 1: you're like they're not really on the same page, Like
Speaker 1: they're not on the same page that they normally are.
Speaker 1: So I'll look at that heading into next year and
Speaker 1: Antonio Browns would still be a top five wide receiver drafted. Again,
Speaker 1: there's no definitive wide receiver one we've talked about this
Speaker 1: already most times, and it's only you know, we're only
Speaker 1: a couple of days after the fantasy football season for
Speaker 1: most people done. But there's no definitive you know, it's Hopkins,
Speaker 1: it's Davantae Adams, it's Julio Jones, Antonio Brown, They're all
Speaker 1: on the same mix and even early second round picks
Speaker 1: Adam Theeland, Michael Thomas. I think DeVante already said Davonta Adams.
Speaker 1: But Tyreek Hill is gonna be in that mixing, Wild
Speaker 1: Juju is gonna be in that mixing. One name that
Speaker 1: a lot of wide receiver. One name that I have
Speaker 1: to ask about is Odell Beckham. Now he was drafted
Speaker 1: pretty consensus wise. Is your third wide receiver giver? Take
Speaker 1: um off the board? He lets you down this year?
Speaker 1: Is it a product of the Giants offense? Is a
Speaker 1: product Eli Manning is a product of himself? Why did
Speaker 1: and I was all over Odell admittedly so to help
Speaker 1: my fantasy team the whole deal? Um, Why what's wrong
Speaker 1: with Odell Beckham? Eli Manning? Is what's wrong with Odell Beckham?
Speaker 1: And I think we all know that. Greg. It's easy
Speaker 1: to point the finger at Eli Manning. But if you
Speaker 1: just watched the games, and there were a lot of
Speaker 1: games where you know, we would come in here on
Speaker 1: Monday and we would do the recap of these games,
Speaker 1: and and the overreaction is an overreaction where we're saying
Speaker 1: they're just not taking shots down the field. And you know,
Speaker 1: Eli didn't have time in a lot of those games
Speaker 1: to take shots down the field. But even if it's
Speaker 1: a three step drop and throw a back shoulder past
Speaker 1: to Odell Beckham or fifty fifty ball where he can
Speaker 1: go up and try and win, like he's good enough
Speaker 1: in terms of like talent pound for pound talent where
Speaker 1: you can just throw this guy and hope that he
Speaker 1: makes a play or a quick slant or something where
Speaker 1: you know he could get out of his break, like
Speaker 1: he's good enough to do that. I just think they
Speaker 1: didn't do enough scheme wise in order to get to
Speaker 1: Beckham the ball quick enough, because we know what he
Speaker 1: could do after the catch too. He's amazing in that regard.
Speaker 1: I just think the scheming the way they use Odell
Speaker 1: Beckham was not good enough. But this is not going
Speaker 1: away this whole like deva mentality. I still think that
Speaker 1: this quad injury is somewhat gazzy, Like I'm not completely
Speaker 1: buying in on this came out on a Saturday, Like
Speaker 1: what was he doing the night before on Friday? Where
Speaker 1: Like he wasn't on the injury report all week long.
Speaker 1: So you still kind of have like the diva mindset.
Speaker 1: I would say, like, out of all those wide receivers
Speaker 1: we've talked about, he's gonna go after those guys. So
Speaker 1: whether it's like a mid second round pick, a late
Speaker 1: second round pick, and you know, I just about him
Speaker 1: as a third round pick the other day and people
Speaker 1: were bashing me. No way he goes in the third round.
Speaker 1: It happens year in a year out where we look
Speaker 1: at one season and everyone's gonna look at his overall
Speaker 1: numbers and say, all right, well, you know, Eli Manning
Speaker 1: still the quarterback next year, even if they draft a
Speaker 1: rookie like Dwayne Haskins. I don't know that he plays
Speaker 1: in Week one. Yeah. The thing is I think we don't.
Speaker 1: Beckham is too good to you go in the third round.
Speaker 1: And that's what and that's that's ultimately what it is.
Speaker 1: Like he's skill, people will just buy back in. I
Speaker 1: know that about myself. I will it's not being a giant.
Speaker 1: It's not giants. Vas How can you how can you justify?
Speaker 1: Right now? Where would you take him? Early second round?
Speaker 1: I'll take them secon round. I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: want to say early second round because I have mappres
Speaker 1: so many wide receivers in that rang. So I agree
Speaker 1: with you, and I'm not ahead of Michael Thomas. Should
Speaker 1: he go ahead of Davante Adam? No? Should he go
Speaker 1: ahead of Tyreek Hill? I don't think he shouldn't. Chief's
Speaker 1: offense as it is. Here's here's how many wide receivers.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take over him? Ready? Yeah? All right? John Jr. Hopkins, mhm,
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas, Monte Adams, you want to say Tyree Hill? Fine?
Speaker 1: Um the s Antonio Brown Antonio Brown for sure, Julio
Speaker 1: Jones and you have to ye. Are you taking Jujo
Speaker 1: over Odell? I? Would you would? Big Ben's a quarterback.
Speaker 1: I would take Juju seven? Would you take? Okay? So
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. That's that's where I'm if
Speaker 1: that's the range, that's the rate, because then then it's
Speaker 1: like Adam feeling exactly, that's the range here, and I
Speaker 1: think it does in that range. I think that's fair,
Speaker 1: which is probably like the middle of second round wide
Speaker 1: receiver too. Yes, and that's exactly where I think, not
Speaker 1: wide receiver, second round wide. I don't know. I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not arguing. I'm not arguing with you
Speaker 1: that all five or six of those guys who just
Speaker 1: names should be Belvam. I'm not arguing with you that
Speaker 1: you want to take Juju or Keenan Allen or Adam
Speaker 1: Feeling ahead of him. The argument from me, he's he's
Speaker 1: been injured the past couple of years, definitely hasn't finished seasons. Definitely.
Speaker 1: Eli Manning is going to be the quarterback next year.
Speaker 1: He's still gonna be throwing it ten times a game
Speaker 1: at sake, kwonbarky behind the line of scrimmage. Unless they
Speaker 1: figure something out, Unless we get some definitive evidence, like, hey,
Speaker 1: we realize that we used Odell Beckham wrong. We didn't
Speaker 1: execute the past game correctly. This season, this is what
Speaker 1: we're gonna do. We're gonna change a B and C
Speaker 1: heading into next year. That's what we need to hear. Giants.
Speaker 1: We know how talented he is pound for pound talent,
Speaker 1: but pound for pound talent doesn't mean that you are
Speaker 1: good for fantasy football. DeAndre Hopkins a couple of years
Speaker 1: ago finishes wide receiver thirty six with brock Oswilder as
Speaker 1: his quarterback. Talent doesn't always win in fantasy. I'll say this,
Speaker 1: Odell Becka twelve games this year. Still it over a
Speaker 1: thousand yards receiving. In those twelve games, he had six touchdowns.
Speaker 1: He plays a full season, which again he has not
Speaker 1: done in the last two years. I don't want to
Speaker 1: discount that he has that he's a very good chance.
Speaker 1: Frankie receptions way over a thousand yards points per game
Speaker 1: pr He's wide receiver eight. He's right on par with
Speaker 1: right ahead of Juju, He's right ahead of t Y Hilton.
Speaker 1: That's why I have him as well my six wide receiver.
Speaker 1: That's not wrong, but it's not you. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: think it's crazy. Don't say it's not wrong. It's not
Speaker 1: crazy to take the tight ends over him? Do you
Speaker 1: take Kelsey? And I'm still not gonna do it. And
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, they were better and they finished
Speaker 1: definitely definitely. I mean it's a question and a debate
Speaker 1: that you're gonna have. And they were talking about it
Speaker 1: on the Frenzy UM on Monday, I think with do
Speaker 1: with Travis Kelsey and Zach he was taking the second round.
Speaker 1: Scott Barrett put out what his first round would look
Speaker 1: like early first round for next year. He had Travis
Speaker 1: Kelsey in the first round. Yeah, I get it. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna do it just to many running backs, but
Speaker 1: personally that's me. Yeah, but it's you know, well, listen,
Speaker 1: the thing is like, if you start your team running
Speaker 1: back tight end, who's your wide receiver one in the
Speaker 1: third round. I mean, Frankie, we got the tight end
Speaker 1: wrong obviously, but you hated taking Rock and the third
Speaker 1: round of our draft you hated never did it before.
Speaker 1: You hate again we got the guy wrong. But the thing,
Speaker 1: but the thing is, if we got ERTs or Kelsey,
Speaker 1: we would have loved the pick and it would have
Speaker 1: completely changed the dynamic of our team. Because Kelsey and
Speaker 1: ERTs this year performed like low and wide receiver one definitely.
Speaker 1: They performed like top ten wide receiver definitely. So like again,
Speaker 1: the logic was right taking a tight end early. It's
Speaker 1: just I mean, all the all the signs were, like
Speaker 1: the writing was on the wall. When he gets grunk.
Speaker 1: It's just you know, I drafted him in a few leagues.
Speaker 1: We drafted him in our biggest money league, the GFC League,
Speaker 1: and you know, we barely made the playoffs. We lost
Speaker 1: to Matt Moodig, Thanks Matt starting Derrick Henry. What you know,
Speaker 1: if if we would ended up with Kelsey Urs, we
Speaker 1: would have felt a lot better about that. Yeah, obviously, so. Um,
Speaker 1: the thing is with the tight end, it's a discussion
Speaker 1: you have every year. We'll reevaluate it when we do
Speaker 1: a first round, when we next to August or next July,
Speaker 1: we started really working at football and making a first
Speaker 1: round and kind of see where the consensus is. Um.
Speaker 1: I think it'll be interesting to see where these tight
Speaker 1: ends do fall because it's such a huge advantage, especially
Speaker 1: with that offense uh in Kansas City and zachar is
Speaker 1: being as good as he is. Which I would you
Speaker 1: take first, by the way, zach Art Travis Kelsey? Oh man,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking Kelsey is a better offense. But there's more
Speaker 1: pieces where you at the feed, I recognize that I
Speaker 1: probably would take Kelsey. I mean, I'm a big zach
Speaker 1: Art's guy. I had him in a few leagues. I
Speaker 1: had him in the Carton League had him my home league.
Speaker 1: I have him as a fourth round keeper heading it
Speaker 1: to next year, so I'm definitely keeping him there. I
Speaker 1: think it's very close, man. I think when it comes
Speaker 1: after me, you're gonna be splitting hairs. You know. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: here's who's is Carson Wentz completely healthy? Does the Chiefs lose,
Speaker 1: lose anything on offense? Like, there's gonna be a lot
Speaker 1: that you look anything overall in a vacuum right now,
Speaker 1: I probably would still take Kelsey, but super close. Freggy.
Speaker 1: I've had to ask you, how did a little a
Speaker 1: little engine that could do? Little engine that could? That
Speaker 1: was my home league. I made it. I made it
Speaker 1: to the playoffs. I I lost in the first round.
Speaker 1: I was very competitive though. I put up like and
Speaker 1: I half PPR and thirty points, so I was very competitive. Um,
Speaker 1: but I think I lost by like ten. It was
Speaker 1: going into Monday night. I had Kirk Cousins. He had
Speaker 1: Stefon Diggs against the Seahawks. Where her Cousins was terrible.
Speaker 1: Stef Diggs was like still solid. He had like eighty
Speaker 1: yards or something like that. So I lost the first
Speaker 1: time for it, not necessarily just because I still have
Speaker 1: good keep. There's like I have Urth's in the fourth
Speaker 1: next year, and I have Darius guys. Cross your fingers
Speaker 1: because we've got some reports about like certainly not going
Speaker 1: well you have the infection. I have Darius guys for
Speaker 1: like A thirteen, so I think you'd be RB two
Speaker 1: next here. I like, I like those guys. That's keeping.
Speaker 1: We'll see where we went wrong when we come back.
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Speaker 1: I think we'll probably do it all week long. UM
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Speaker 1: have Friday, we'll get in a week seventeen preview, will
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Speaker 1: you know, it would be pretty normal and we'll trying
Speaker 1: to have these discussions certainly over the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: UM breaking down the playoffs. Will definitely do a lot
Speaker 1: of betting stuff some DFS fantasy. I have a cool
Speaker 1: fantasy game. I'm and I'm gonna want all you guys
Speaker 1: help in doing it. I'll invite you all the play wrens.
Speaker 1: Last year was last year. Yeah, it was fun last year.
Speaker 1: You can't remember that. I remember we were all stressing
Speaker 1: over your lineup. We were sitting at Star trying to
Speaker 1: figure out how to like configure everything in. It's like,
Speaker 1: can invite you out? You can, you can do it.
Speaker 1: I don't remember. It's not cheap though, okay, with some
Speaker 1: money like that sucks, Greg Binden, I mean the pools.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I just helped the guy win a chip.
Speaker 1: Maybe he'll want to back me again. The pool is amazing.
Speaker 1: The pool is absolutely fantastic. So there was a lot
Speaker 1: of strategy that goes into like the playoff fantasy stuff.
Speaker 1: You gotta try and figure out, you know, not not
Speaker 1: only which team is gonna win, which team is playing
Speaker 1: enough games because you got the wild card where like
Speaker 1: obviously teams have buys, and then you gotta you know,
Speaker 1: it's not only that. On the top of you gotta
Speaker 1: figure out who's gonna be productive. So there's like there's
Speaker 1: so many different moving parts when it comes to playoff fantasy,
Speaker 1: very are difficult. Yeah, totally, all right, let's dove the
Speaker 1: phone lines here four four, four, three, six seven nine. Um, well,
Speaker 1: going back to some stuff that we got wrong. You
Speaker 1: wanna talk like keepers or anything to like that'd be awesome,
Speaker 1: just like here, like if you have a keeper stuff? Absolutely,
Speaker 1: Um anything DFS for this week wrestling, that's life. Let's
Speaker 1: cut it. Darren in Philly, what's up, Daran Dark? About
Speaker 1: my last finals this weekend coming up? God? All right?
Speaker 1: Do you always play in week seventeen Darren? Now, this
Speaker 1: is the first year that I fell into Week seventeen,
Speaker 1: So all right, man, Well, look I lost the finals
Speaker 1: last week by five points. I was like, let's let's yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry about that. Man. All right, Well we'll try
Speaker 1: to figure it out. I mean, it's a week seventeen
Speaker 1: is kind of a guessing game. We we have, like
Speaker 1: we have a handful of teams who we know we're
Speaker 1: going to be out there playing for sure. We already
Speaker 1: have some guys who like we already know are injured.
Speaker 1: So we'll try our best. What do you got, all right?
Speaker 1: I just want to feel in my our running back
Speaker 1: positions and my quarterback position. So quarterback is quick. Um,
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna sit Mayfield. You guys comfortable with
Speaker 1: going um with throwing out Rivers again this week? This
Speaker 1: is interesting? Great, you got Philip Rivers at the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 1: But how much do you lee let the Chargers play?
Speaker 1: Could they actually move up in their playoffs? And oh
Speaker 1: sure they could be the number one seed. It could
Speaker 1: be the number So if they win and the Chiefs lose,
Speaker 1: but the Chiefs are facing Oakland, so I think I
Speaker 1: mean at halftime Henderson's blowing out Oakland, they'll bencham. Here's
Speaker 1: the thing, like Baker has a terrible matchup against Baltimore,
Speaker 1: but he's playing, and you know, like they're gonna go
Speaker 1: all out. They've already come out and said Greg Williams
Speaker 1: came out and said this is their playoff matchups. They're
Speaker 1: they're gonna go all out against the Baltimore Ravens. Here
Speaker 1: brutal Matchwick is Baltimore. Baltimore also desperately needs to win
Speaker 1: great against Denver, though it's not well keen Ouns really
Speaker 1: good against Niver's last time at Are there any other options?
Speaker 1: The the way Warrior got Donald Donald Sam Donald against
Speaker 1: the Patriots, which is it's kind of crazy that that's
Speaker 1: what we're talking about. But the Patriots defense is not great.
Speaker 1: Donald's playing well and you know he's gonna play the
Speaker 1: whole game. No, you're scared about it like in Foxborough.
Speaker 1: But the offense is playing well. Him and Robbie Anderson definitely,
Speaker 1: no question about It's hard like the matchup of these three.
Speaker 1: I think the Patriots is probably the best. Man. I agree.
Speaker 1: If I had to choose one, and all things being considered,
Speaker 1: I probably choose Rivers. But I agree with you on that, Matt.
Speaker 1: But all things are not equal, correct. I take the
Speaker 1: rookie with the best matchup, and it's not just the
Speaker 1: Jets thing. I'll take the rookie who's got something to
Speaker 1: play for. Right now, he's trending in the right direction.
Speaker 1: Him and Robby Anderson are on the same page. It's
Speaker 1: not a daunting match up against the New England Patriots
Speaker 1: as well. You might throw a pick in this game,
Speaker 1: but I could see him throwing for what two fifty
Speaker 1: and two, maybe adding some rushing production. I'm taking Rivers.
Speaker 1: I think if Oakland keeps it close against Kansas City,
Speaker 1: which they did, the first time they played, obviously, that
Speaker 1: was in Oakland, and they Okland keeps it close to
Speaker 1: Kansas City at Arrowhead. Rivers plays that entire game. I'll
Speaker 1: take Philip Rivers. I'll take Philip Rivers, all right? Eight?
Speaker 1: Four four? Did you have another question? Four three, six,
Speaker 1: seven nine? Let we got a Bob in Vermont? What's up? Bobby?
Speaker 1: Hey you guys are you doing? That was a Christmas
Speaker 1: and it was good. It has been over, but it's
Speaker 1: been good. It was good for me. I got a
Speaker 1: few drinks. How is how is Christmas for you? Bob?
Speaker 1: It was yesterday? It's great. That's great. Bore her like
Speaker 1: she likes making art her art supplies. That's very nice.
Speaker 1: Did she get her art jeans from you? Are you
Speaker 1: a very artsy person? Bob? I'm not an artist. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not in high school, boy, wasn't. I'm a good
Speaker 1: cup though. I love to cook, good cook. So I
Speaker 1: know that you were gonna You're gonna buy a pizza
Speaker 1: when you came down here. Why are you gonna make
Speaker 1: a chicken parm Why don't you just cook us a
Speaker 1: big you know, something like bring us in a meal?
Speaker 1: Come on, Bob, Well on the bus. You want it
Speaker 1: on the bus? I come here and then I don't know,
Speaker 1: we'll find a way for you to cook. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: you have a kitchen down there. I don't know. We'll
Speaker 1: find something with Corey go to Harlem, okay, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: And then then then then that's not a good happen.
Speaker 1: You and Corey have a bit of a rival yet
Speaker 1: either they Tuesday, Yeah what's he doing? Show? Yeah? You know?
Speaker 1: Yeah that that was horrible. That was so nice to
Speaker 1: him and runs alt me. He's not very nice to you.
Speaker 1: Not very nice to you either, Greg? Is it us?
Speaker 1: Gabe Wilson and Michelle as the which was okay? Yeah,
Speaker 1: they all tough him each other. Well you see the
Speaker 1: little girl that the went that was wavered to them
Speaker 1: that morning. She's cute. She's outside the studio. Why why
Speaker 1: did you see that? Did you see that? Bob? Did
Speaker 1: we have a camera go to that? No? I don't
Speaker 1: think so. Is it like a picture taken? What are
Speaker 1: you doing spying on us or something? What you spying
Speaker 1: on us? How did you know about this female? They
Speaker 1: watch it on YouTube? They were outside, No, they would
Speaker 1: they were waving to the Gabe, but I know they
Speaker 1: were waving. But did you see the little girl? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: they had the picture she was outside that. I watched
Speaker 1: it on YouTube. Everybody should be like, yeah, definitely, yeah,
Speaker 1: watch it on YouTube. You see the little girl on Tuesday? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Anything sports related? Yeah? Yankees? Are you drafting Odell Beckham
Speaker 1: next year in fantasy or what? No? No, you see
Speaker 1: Bob smart gig, You're not that's interesting. No, I'm not.
Speaker 1: He he's honest, dude, not a draft bersa. He doesn't
Speaker 1: like water. He's a diva. He doesn't like water. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've actually heard Bones Crizzy Bones hold us that you're
Speaker 1: a diva? Bob? Is that true? Well? Yeah, when I
Speaker 1: don't get my chance to talk on the phone yet,
Speaker 1: So you did. Okay, so at least Crish is a
Speaker 1: lying So I'm not lying neither. You're right right, you're honest. Okay,
Speaker 1: I gotta line up for this Sunday on all. You
Speaker 1: gotta writtle it off quick though, Bob. Yeah, I do
Speaker 1: very quickly. That Mike's quarterback Damian Williams as my running
Speaker 1: back okay against Howard, Jordan Howard against the Minnesota Viking. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not great core. We well, remember remember that Uh,
Speaker 1: you gonna be sitting people to this week. Yeah, including
Speaker 1: Jordan Quarry Davis and against against the Colts, Robbie Anderson
Speaker 1: love it. I will rocket against the Arizona Cardinals, sure,
Speaker 1: and rud Up against the Rudolph's thing. Oh, you're buying in,
Speaker 1: you're buying it on. I'm a week too late, Bobby.
Speaker 1: It's not Christmas anymore. We're off the red zone, rain
Speaker 1: Deer and the Adams from Green Day and then I
Speaker 1: took the Baltimore Ravens as my defense. It's it's a
Speaker 1: great line of Bob calling later in the week will
Speaker 1: help you perfected you. You can appreciate the call. Appreciate it.
Speaker 1: We always appreciate you. And else we got wrong this year.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of millions have Jimmy Graham is my
Speaker 1: fourth rank. Tighten. I'm looking at that in the face
Speaker 1: right because it isn't like I got right that you
Speaker 1: were not on I know you know we were not
Speaker 1: doing this. No believe it. I'll tell you something. It's
Speaker 1: the frank it's the frank out, this fronction. That's fine,
Speaker 1: all right, come on, pour on me. Greg, Adrian Peterson.
Speaker 1: I loved Adrian Peterson I did not dislike Adrian Peterson.
Speaker 1: I wanted to draft him. Well, you want to draft
Speaker 1: him in like six rounds? Was right, it would have
Speaker 1: been worth it. But that was not not on Adrian Peterson.
Speaker 1: Because there's a lot of Best Ball leagues where I
Speaker 1: actually passed out because I had Adrian Peterson so and
Speaker 1: he was great for Best Ball because he had monster weeks,
Speaker 1: and then he also the next week would have twenty yards.
Speaker 1: So it was always kind of hard to figure out
Speaker 1: what week Adrian Peterson was gonna be good. Speaking of
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson, are we just prematurely assuming that his time
Speaker 1: in Washington is up? I think we are. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a great point. We're just talking. I'm talking about Darius.
Speaker 1: Guys like he's no doubt going to be the work
Speaker 1: course running back for the for Washington next year. I
Speaker 1: don't know that's guarantee. Yep. I don't know that they
Speaker 1: just get rid of Adrian Peterson. He performed very well
Speaker 1: for them. Maybe there's some kind of loyalty there. Hey,
Speaker 1: you did good for us, We'll bring you back for
Speaker 1: another year. You can help, you can help, Darius, said
Speaker 1: Jake Grden. Is still there? Come on, why wouldn't not
Speaker 1: be though, with everything he had to go through this year,
Speaker 1: they still had a great see there at a joke
Speaker 1: of an organization. Is that Jake Gruden's fault? Though I
Speaker 1: don't know that comes from the top down without questions
Speaker 1: Dance letter to Bruce Allen Doug Williams got it, agreed,
Speaker 1: I don't. I think Jake Gruden is the one thing
Speaker 1: that's right in that organization, and I'm not. I don't know, dude,
Speaker 1: he had I get all the injuries, Alex Smith, Colt McCoy,
Speaker 1: losing Darius Guy, signing Adrian Peterson, Josh Johnson, and to
Speaker 1: still be there this late in the season, I get it.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's a great job. It wouldn't. It
Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me. Yeah, because they do everything wrong in Washington,
Speaker 1: so if they got rid of Jake Gruden, it would
Speaker 1: just be something else that they did wrong. Where do
Speaker 1: you rank David Johnson next year? Its depends only who
Speaker 1: the coach is, right, Yeah, absolutely, I do think Steve
Speaker 1: Wilkes is a one and done. Uh. They We've already
Speaker 1: heard a lot of Mike McCarthy to Arizona mutual interest there,
Speaker 1: so I know, a lot of people are poo pooing
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy. That's like the popular thing to do. Heard
Speaker 1: that's have been linked to Mike McCarthy as well. They've
Speaker 1: also been linked to Jim Harbaugh. Came out and shut
Speaker 1: that down. We'll see what happens. I think Todd Bowles
Speaker 1: is as good as gone. We'll figure out who their
Speaker 1: their coaches and maybe they do something like Bruce Arians
Speaker 1: that's the Jets, though that's different. The Colts are going
Speaker 1: to have an offensive minded head coach. I do believe
Speaker 1: that Iron Left, which has done a better job than
Speaker 1: Mike McCoy, but Greg Sussman could have done a better
Speaker 1: job than Mike McCoy. So, you know, a lot of
Speaker 1: people were talking about Byron Left, which is like a
Speaker 1: popular O C candidate around the league, like they were
Speaker 1: talking him up. I don't know that he's done a
Speaker 1: great job, did a fine job with like that he
Speaker 1: was dealt. But David Johnson will he'll be an early
Speaker 1: second round pick. I think early second round or or
Speaker 1: late first for that reason that we said the club
Speaker 1: is like a late first just because you take the
Speaker 1: running back and you know that you're guaranteed to get
Speaker 1: like a really good wide receiver in the second round.
Speaker 1: Do you the thing is, do you take that chance?
Speaker 1: And you're like, all right, I want Antonio Brown or
Speaker 1: Julio Jones. I'll take that chance that David Johnson isn't
Speaker 1: there in the early second round like someone else and
Speaker 1: I sim and then you have to pull someone up,
Speaker 1: someone else up the board. I do think they'll go
Speaker 1: in the second round, but a lot is going to
Speaker 1: be like if they get if Josh Rosen is playing
Speaker 1: well in the preseason and making progress, and they get
Speaker 1: more weapons outside of like if Larry Fitzgerald comes back
Speaker 1: for another season, if they have like a lot depends
Speaker 1: on what they do in the off season. But as
Speaker 1: of right now, I would say, like early second round,
Speaker 1: would you rather have David Johnson or Joe Mixon next year?
Speaker 1: This is both situations are very much so dependent on
Speaker 1: what they do. Because I do think that there they
Speaker 1: should at least have a coaching overhaul in Cincinnati as well.
Speaker 1: You see for years like you know, whatever, marvat Lewis
Speaker 1: will just bring it back. We love mediocrity in a vacuum.
Speaker 1: Based on what we saw this year and the way
Speaker 1: that both teams are trending. I would take Joe Mixon.
Speaker 1: I think so too, but I think it's close too.
Speaker 1: I I do think that. Uh. I think Nick Chubb
Speaker 1: and and Joe Mix in our late first round picks
Speaker 1: as of right now, I would put both of those
Speaker 1: guys slightly ahead of David Johnson won tru. I agree, yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree, all right? Eight four four A four three
Speaker 1: six seven nine. Let's sign off now, yeah, real quick, um,
Speaker 1: pretty Kitchen's name being thrown around head coaching candidate. People
Speaker 1: are throwing them around with the Jets too, really like
Speaker 1: like that he like that? I don't, I don't know, man.
Speaker 1: The thing is, he took it. He did what you're
Speaker 1: supposed to do as an offensive coordinator, right, Like he
Speaker 1: took an offense that was underperforming made them perform. So,
Speaker 1: but the thing is, I don't know much about his background,
Speaker 1: like does he have head coaching experience? Where has he
Speaker 1: only been like an O C. I like you signed
Speaker 1: off now. But I just thought that was interesting because
Speaker 1: you know, we were talking about whether or not they
Speaker 1: should bring back the same regime with the with the Browns,
Speaker 1: which would obviously mean Freddy Kitchens as OC. But he's
Speaker 1: getting he's getting legit head coaching right now. With that,
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Speaker 1: radio for the next three minutes. Frank k Um, I
Speaker 1: don't want to like totally go through these wide receivers,
Speaker 1: just a lot of wide receivers. We got wrong with
Speaker 1: your funds. Honestly, with the running back here has no
Speaker 1: head coaching. Obviously like to coach. I just meant like
Speaker 1: dating backs like colleges stuff. I didn't know I had.
Speaker 1: You can touch that. Well, I just brought it up
Speaker 1: and you didn't say anything. Well, I was signing on YouTube.
Speaker 1: I brought it up before that. I was signing on YouTube. Whatever. Old,
Speaker 1: He's not that old. November nineteen seventy four. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: he's forty four, right right, that's so kind of like
Speaker 1: young enough. I mean, it's not like Saw mcveay, like
Speaker 1: thirty years old. It's not old though not old. Um
Speaker 1: his mother one running Max we got wrong. Carlos High
Speaker 1: was a disaster obviously, trading now rex Burkhead very very bad.
Speaker 1: You got the situation right though. The Brown's running back
Speaker 1: situation was. It was very it was very profitable for
Speaker 1: fantasy this year. Rex Burkhead and Carlo's Hide was very
Speaker 1: good while he was with the Browns. Very he was good.
Speaker 1: That sound depending good he was. He was an RB two.
Speaker 1: That's what you wanted him to be. I got that
Speaker 1: one wrong, for sure. I love Carlos Hide. Everybody knows
Speaker 1: that he I mean he performed with the Browns, rex
Speaker 1: burk with the Jaguars. Has Carlos Hides days as a
Speaker 1: starting running back? Are they gone? Sure? Seems that way,
Speaker 1: very very quickly. Where is he gonna go? Right? That's
Speaker 1: that's because he's like not old. I guess he's not
Speaker 1: like great either. Oh is that not for him not
Speaker 1: being great? He's twenty actually thought next year he's twenty nine.
Speaker 1: His twenty nine years age, twenty nine season. It's pretty old,
Speaker 1: what's not He's for guys that we always should it
Speaker 1: turns yeah, yeah, all right, yeah, I mean with the
Speaker 1: Browns only average three point four yards per carry, but
Speaker 1: did have five rushing touchdowns. Yeah, you must have been
Speaker 1: a four year player in college in right, because he
Speaker 1: came in as a rookie twenty four years old. So yeah,
Speaker 1: his days is starting running back. Yeah, I mean he's
Speaker 1: probably over. So his first year in college he was
Speaker 1: twenty he was twenty years old, soomer for sure. M
Speaker 1: Colos four year player. He had you know, two d
Speaker 1: rushes his final season in Ohio State. So unfortunately, it's
Speaker 1: not gonna be a long career, it seems for Carlins. Greg,
Speaker 1: guess what you got wrong? Vante Freeman. Guess what Michael
Speaker 1: Florio got wrong? Davante Freeman. I didn't get wrong. I
Speaker 1: didn't want this guy. I was scared off. Thirteen one spots.
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