Speaker 1: Everybody out there, You're not ready for this exceptional human
Speaker 1: being that I love and adoor.
Speaker 2: We're kind of batting a hundred with these guests.
Speaker 1: I mean, but this he's sickening by the way. He
Speaker 1: looks the same, just like I do.
Speaker 3: We have an age.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know what's going I don't know what
Speaker 4: kind of big blood y'all been drinking.
Speaker 1: I know it's insane, it's crazy, but here he is
Speaker 1: the one.
Speaker 5: The fucking only Eric Baby is.
Speaker 2: Let's fucking go my baby.
Speaker 5: Hi. I'm sorry I'm not there sitting on the couch
Speaker 5: with y'all, but this is so much.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I'm devastating situation. I mean, you know, we've
Speaker 4: we've had quite a few people on. We've had Terry Weinberg,
Speaker 4: We've have been Silverman, We've had many Flana Vanessa Williams.
Speaker 5: Goodness.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we are just like we are trying to
Speaker 4: truly collect as many ugly Betty alum as possible. And
Speaker 4: before we even start, this is something that we're asking
Speaker 4: every single guest, correct if we were to do a round,
Speaker 4: if when when.
Speaker 1: We do our limited series reboot, you're coming back.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, You're coming I mean you couldn't kick me away?
Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, are you kidding? I know, I think
Speaker 5: we've been talking about this since twenty ten.
Speaker 1: Literally literally we have been, and it's so incredible to
Speaker 1: have you here.
Speaker 3: You look so beautiful. What the bug like? What's even happening?
Speaker 3: All right, So let's get into the nitty gritty. We're
Speaker 3: talking ugly Betty Eric.
Speaker 1: I have so many like off the grid questions that
Speaker 1: I want to talk to, but let's let's get into
Speaker 1: the Betty of it all right now.
Speaker 3: So when you first what was your.
Speaker 1: So did your agents say, like, here's a part did
Speaker 1: they offered to you?
Speaker 3: Did you have to audition?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 3: What was your first sort of like entrance into Betty.
Speaker 5: I actually it was two thousand and six. I was
Speaker 5: getting married in New Orleans at our place, yes, and
Speaker 5: Jordie said, you're gonna have to not go on your
Speaker 5: honeymoon because someone wants to meet with you. So there
Speaker 5: was there was the heroes of it all, the show heroes.
Speaker 5: I don't even know when anyone even remembers that show.
Speaker 5: I remember, I remember, but I was going to test
Speaker 5: for that the part that ended up going to Milo
Speaker 5: and Familiar Health, right and and that was like that
Speaker 5: was happening. And they're like, no, no, no, no, there's
Speaker 5: there's Ben Silverman and Weinberg and Samayak. They're doing the
Speaker 5: show and they want to meet with you. I'm like, no, no, no,
Speaker 5: but this is a thing and that was going to
Speaker 5: be the start of whatever process with Ugly Betty. And
Speaker 5: they're like no, no, no, they just want to meet with him.
Speaker 5: And if the meeting goes, well, that's your part of it.
Speaker 5: What what are you talking about? So I read the
Speaker 5: script and I ran over and and Ben was just
Speaker 5: so charming.
Speaker 3: Ben is so charming. I mean, he's such a delight, a.
Speaker 5: Water to a drowning and I swear.
Speaker 4: It was so you read it, Arry Terry said, Terry said,
Speaker 4: is she chopped liver?
Speaker 5: No? But you know, when you're in a room Terry
Speaker 5: Terry with Ben, it's true, right.
Speaker 2: We had him sitting on the couch right over.
Speaker 3: Here, and he does sort of he does sort of
Speaker 3: like take up.
Speaker 2: You know, I did not have to speak, not not
Speaker 2: not a word.
Speaker 1: I just I adore him and I enjoyed that, by
Speaker 1: the way. So yeah, so you just you got so
Speaker 1: you just came into the meeting, did you have to
Speaker 1: read for it or no. You just sort of had
Speaker 1: the meeting and they were like, you're fucking Daniel.
Speaker 5: I in, I said, hello, we talked about the thing
Speaker 5: I left, and that was it.
Speaker 4: One of my and and and the thing is is
Speaker 4: that obviously you had had such a like a.
Speaker 2: A big career before Ugly Betty.
Speaker 4: Of course that like that would that would yield that
Speaker 4: you make like that, you made Daniel Mead what he is.
Speaker 4: But I'm uh, we're telling all of our guests this
Speaker 4: as well. I'm watching the show for the first time.
Speaker 1: Mark has never watched the show. Eric, Like, he's never
Speaker 1: watched it, so he's.
Speaker 4: Watch I've seen the pilot and I've seen the finale,
Speaker 4: the series finale.
Speaker 5: So probably because you weren't there for a lot of
Speaker 5: the screens on Thursday afternoons, right because paws and things
Speaker 5: like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had to go to school and then and
Speaker 2: then yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But also he just sort of grew up, and
Speaker 1: I think you had your own sort of relationship with
Speaker 1: with the show as it were, like you went through
Speaker 1: a whole sort of you know, chase this moment with it.
Speaker 1: But you know, he's never watched it, so he's watching
Speaker 1: you for the first time.
Speaker 4: But I'm finding that, like, you know, it's it's it's
Speaker 4: very interesting to consider the you know, because we're all
Speaker 4: so close and such like you know, like have have
Speaker 4: remained such good friends even if we don't see each
Speaker 4: other or whatever. To see these characters and to be
Speaker 4: completely honest with you, I and I felt this way
Speaker 4: about watching it, uh with Becky Newton, like playing Amanda
Speaker 4: and the characters of Daniel and Amanda. I was just like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't even fucking like them right now, like not
Speaker 4: them so but then but then they get you know,
Speaker 4: like like we have these these really incredible soft moments
Speaker 4: with Daniel, and I just I just want to say,
Speaker 4: I just want to give you your flowers for it, babe.
Speaker 2: Like that that makes me You really.
Speaker 4: Towed the line in such an incredible and like that
Speaker 4: you know, he could be this kind of himbo this
Speaker 4: and that, but also with just a genuine heart of gold.
Speaker 4: And I just think that you told that line so
Speaker 4: so brilliantly.
Speaker 1: We've talked about it a lot on the pod, how
Speaker 1: much you have this incredible ability all the actors really,
Speaker 1: because I think on this show it's so easy for
Speaker 1: these characters to be sort of these flat archetypes, and
Speaker 1: you really brought such heart to Daniel, even in the
Speaker 1: pilot episode. I mean it started from day dot. So, like,
Speaker 1: what was that.
Speaker 3: Like for you as an actor?
Speaker 1: Because you know he was such a sort of you know,
Speaker 1: a bro character, a NEPO baby bro character. But there's
Speaker 1: something about you, Eric that had you There was such
Speaker 1: a vulnerability and such a beauty that you brought to it.
Speaker 1: What was that like sort of portraying it?
Speaker 5: Well? I think, uh, like you, Mark, I haven't seen
Speaker 5: a lot of the episode. What I had seen are
Speaker 5: the ones that we would see during lunch is usually
Speaker 5: on Thursdays. I was I would look forward to that
Speaker 5: because we were so busy shooting. Yeah, but I do
Speaker 5: cringe when I watch, especially the pilot in the earlier episodes.
Speaker 2: Why why so nice?
Speaker 5: What you're saying that the arc like we have to
Speaker 5: start somewhere, go somewhere with Daniel, And that was one
Speaker 5: of the takeaways that it was. There was no it
Speaker 5: couldn't have been done any other way than the way
Speaker 5: they wrote the episodes. But yeah, I agree, he's he's
Speaker 5: uh angless entirely unlikable, but how much more fun for
Speaker 5: us to end up where we do. And the other
Speaker 5: The other thing I noticed in rewatching some of the episodes,
Speaker 5: the most fun I had was when Daniel would come
Speaker 5: and visit the Squires.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, he had no like real stable family
Speaker 4: of his own.
Speaker 5: There was like he was surfing, you know, pretending what
Speaker 5: it would be like to have a whole family, and
Speaker 5: that would start. Watching those makes me very tearful because
Speaker 5: there's like a whole ness that Daniel gets, even if
Speaker 5: only briefly, he gets to sort of, you know, try
Speaker 5: out for a while when niece.
Speaker 3: That's so true.
Speaker 1: And also we were very close. I mean you were
Speaker 1: super close with my husband. You still are. You guys
Speaker 1: are like total buds, and we got very close during
Speaker 1: that whole thing. So and you know, you got married,
Speaker 1: you had your first baby during the show. I got married.
Speaker 1: I had my first baby during the show. You guys
Speaker 1: did it first, though, so we still we.
Speaker 5: Moved to New York and then I had second baby.
Speaker 1: That's right, and we really sort of leaned on you
Speaker 1: a lot.
Speaker 3: And that during that time I think sort of you're.
Speaker 5: Like, hey, I was supposed to do this, I really
Speaker 5: do now.
Speaker 2: Oh really, honestly, did you guys like live like down
Speaker 2: the street from each other.
Speaker 5: Yes, And it was amazing because when Anna was working,
Speaker 5: I was not generally speaking in Vike sparsa like it.
Speaker 3: Was that's right. It actually was a perfect storm as
Speaker 3: as as it were.
Speaker 1: I mean, but you guys lived in this in this
Speaker 1: beautiful place, and you had your you know, you had
Speaker 1: the babies I have still, you know what, I would
Speaker 1: love to sort of maybe if we could put that
Speaker 1: on some sort of thing of like our our little
Speaker 1: babies playing together is so ridiculous and crazy and fun.
Speaker 1: But we all went through all of this together like
Speaker 1: it was such an incredible experience. And I remember just
Speaker 1: sort of leaning on you guys a lot, yeah, sort
Speaker 1: of like, ah, how am I supposed to negotiat being
Speaker 1: a parent and working on this?
Speaker 5: And we had we had Max right before shooting the show,
Speaker 5: like we were like we were in Saint John's in
Speaker 5: Santa Monica, and and I remember Richard and Jim being like,
Speaker 5: so when do you think you can come to work now?
Speaker 5: And we're excited that you have a son now. But
Speaker 5: I was like, what do I do?
Speaker 3: Are you serious?
Speaker 1: Because I was two weeks out of having follow me
Speaker 1: and they were like.
Speaker 3: So your call time's four am. And I was like,
Speaker 3: I had a baby two weeks ago, you.
Speaker 2: Motherfuckers well, and you looked better than ever. Stop.
Speaker 1: I definitely gonna have to pad my. I didn't need
Speaker 1: no chicken cutlors.
Speaker 4: And we're but we're I mean this this season of
Speaker 4: this pod is talking about season one, but I just I,
Speaker 4: you know, since we have Eric, I wanted to just
Speaker 4: talk about season two when when Daniel and Justin have
Speaker 4: like this this kind of like this this bonding moment
Speaker 4: and I just remember being in downtown LA on a
Speaker 4: basketball court.
Speaker 3: Do you remember?
Speaker 5: And it's just.
Speaker 4: It's just I've not seen the episode itself, but upon
Speaker 4: watching the show, I'm just having all accessing all of
Speaker 4: these memories. And like when I was thinking about having you,
Speaker 4: know that we were going to have you on the pod,
Speaker 4: I was just kind of like, what are my like
Speaker 4: core memories of Eric, like working with with you, and
Speaker 4: and that was the thing that just kind of literally
Speaker 4: like came out of my mind, like where I was
Speaker 4: just like, oh, right, when when we were forced to
Speaker 4: play basketball.
Speaker 2: On some rooftop.
Speaker 5: There's nothing linear about my memories from the show. I
Speaker 5: sort of like La and New York. But I felt
Speaker 5: like it was just one. Yeah, so because we were shooting,
Speaker 5: we were finishing one, starting another, going back to do
Speaker 5: reshoots from a third.
Speaker 2: So it was all, yeah, this was in the day.
Speaker 1: This is in the day when we're shooting twenty four episodes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we were working on film, on film, God bless it
Speaker 1: rip on film.
Speaker 3: We're working. We're shooting twenty four.
Speaker 1: So we had like two months off actually because we're
Speaker 1: you know, it was a regular job.
Speaker 3: It was so fabulous bring those back, bring back.
Speaker 4: But what I really but but in terms of who
Speaker 4: you're working with, I want to know about what that
Speaker 4: episode in season one when we are introduced.
Speaker 3: To Judith was when we first met.
Speaker 2: In in like the Sober House.
Speaker 1: You and Judith had such an amazing dynamic.
Speaker 4: It's honestly, I laughed and I almost kind of cried.
Speaker 4: It was like I was, I don't know, I felt,
Speaker 4: I felt a lot of emotions.
Speaker 5: I don't know why. But that was even before that happened.
Speaker 5: I knew that was going to happen. There was something
Speaker 5: about there was something about Judith and the way I
Speaker 5: sort of I don't know how I regarded her, but
Speaker 5: obviously she felt already like my mother. Yeah, from the
Speaker 5: I don't know why that was.
Speaker 3: I get it.
Speaker 5: I do know why. It is because of Judith's presence
Speaker 5: a lot.
Speaker 3: It is his mother, that is jud his mother.
Speaker 5: But it was like when I showed up to say
Speaker 5: O Tours, like we had a lifetime of memories already.
Speaker 5: I don't know, it was sort of uncanny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really magical watching you guys, because it's so
Speaker 1: funny and it's also so heartbreaking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's literally.
Speaker 1: The same moment. I wonder if you felt that when
Speaker 1: you were doing the scene.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, especially because again talking about taking character from here
Speaker 5: to there, as you know, getting her at her very bottom,
Speaker 5: it was sort of you, no, not dissimilar from from Daniel,
Speaker 5: but for different reasons. You see that the testaments of
Speaker 5: the writing, you know, those the generations repeating themselves like
Speaker 5: that and then both being sort of dragged down in
Speaker 5: this rabbit hole and both of them trying to claw
Speaker 5: them their way out and sort of mend what was
Speaker 5: so broken. I think that was. But man, that j came,
Speaker 5: I mean, Judith came to fight and play.
Speaker 3: Every day day to fight and play.
Speaker 4: I love this the comedy through tragedy, though, is something
Speaker 4: that I'm really responding to. I think, like with the
Speaker 4: Claire and Daniel dynamic, is that like, especially in that
Speaker 4: episode in particular, of just.
Speaker 2: Being like.
Speaker 4: It's like it's it's it's really sad, but I'm laughing
Speaker 4: exactly do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: And and am I should I be?
Speaker 4: You know like that, It's it's a very ambivalent feeling,
Speaker 4: but in a good way as a viewer.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 5: I think that's the thing that shows don't get tonally.
Speaker 5: It's so easy for them to slide into Maudlin right
Speaker 5: as opposed what all of our writers did, which is
Speaker 5: you know, which felt realistic, if those felt like even
Speaker 5: though it was stylized, some of the you know, Victor's
Speaker 5: incredible shots and STYLI yeah, like this is it felt
Speaker 5: true to life? Like one second you are like you're
Speaker 5: warning a laugh and then cry and feeling so pulled
Speaker 5: into the sort of spheres of these their lives.
Speaker 1: But I don't think you give yourself enough credit. This
Speaker 1: is what I'm hearing from you right now, Eric, because
Speaker 1: I'm saying from day dot from You're saying, well, you know,
Speaker 1: the pilot whatever from the episode one like episode one, Eric,
Speaker 1: I saw Daniel's vulnerability, vulnerability, Like I saw Daniels sort
Speaker 1: of fight, you know, his like fight to sort of
Speaker 1: be his own man, to sort of recognize that this
Speaker 1: young girl was something special to Like, I saw so
Speaker 1: much depth in Daniel.
Speaker 3: It was in the writing.
Speaker 1: But I think also you bring something to it that
Speaker 1: like is really just uniquely you.
Speaker 5: I'm accepting your comments and compliment, but I'm also trying
Speaker 5: to draw in to this that every single one of us,
Speaker 5: that thing that you're talking about was an electric being.
Speaker 5: Everything one of us had that once you set us
Speaker 5: an emotion, right, you never knew what you were going
Speaker 5: to get, but you knew it was going to be amazing.
Speaker 5: So again we're written that way. But when I would
Speaker 5: go and what I had to do, what Daniel had
Speaker 5: to do to Betty in that first episode would break
Speaker 5: anyone's part, right, anyone So, and the way which she
Speaker 5: responded and reacted to the way you know in those moments,
Speaker 5: it would it would break my heart, you know, every
Speaker 5: time we'd have those.
Speaker 4: Things, I'm curious about, you know, if we're talking about
Speaker 4: this kind of ground bag breaking representation and like, you know,
Speaker 4: the things that we were able to do culturally at
Speaker 4: a time that maybe right now, at this juncture, like historically,
Speaker 4: like you know, people have copied us a lot, you know,
Speaker 4: or or taken what we did and expanded upon it.
Speaker 4: But at the time it was very very it was
Speaker 4: it was different. And so I just I suppose that
Speaker 4: I'm just curious about what did it mean to you, like,
Speaker 4: as a straight white man, right to be a part
Speaker 4: of a show that was talking about.
Speaker 1: Latin culture, queer culture, you know, immigration, like we we
Speaker 1: touched on so much, yes, you know, so many sort
Speaker 1: of now I guess now would be considered more controversial
Speaker 1: though than it was then.
Speaker 2: Perhaps.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know, did you know that that
Speaker 4: was something that you were getting involved to know or
Speaker 4: did it or did it happen later in hindsight for you?
Speaker 5: No, I mean I knew that where I grew up
Speaker 5: in western Massachusetts, that's that's the environment which I grew
Speaker 5: up right in Amberst, Massachusetts. That that is the norm.
Speaker 5: Right by the.
Speaker 1: Way, he was born in Philly Harrisburg. All right, we're
Speaker 1: still claiming, We're still claiming you.
Speaker 5: And then went to Sarah Lawrence, a school with three
Speaker 5: times many women and a very sort of out and
Speaker 5: proud community. And I was part of the beginning of
Speaker 5: the L word, which was also so I the environment
Speaker 5: was certainly comfortable in nothing foreign to me, and I
Speaker 5: could tell that in the creation of the show they
Speaker 5: were leaving themselves so many directions to go in and
Speaker 5: universes to explore. So I really was in playing that character,
Speaker 5: I felt like I wanted to make sure to it
Speaker 5: just a little bit, so it wasn't how it might,
Speaker 5: you know, traditionally be played to treating everyone, including my
Speaker 5: brother who became my sister, you know, treating everyone as
Speaker 5: a human being as we do in our lives, hopefully
Speaker 5: as we.
Speaker 4: Do get that Eric maybe is it's yeah, I mean
Speaker 4: just just because watching it, you know again for the
Speaker 4: first time, it's it's just kind of I'm almost incredulous
Speaker 4: watching it when we're talking about the things that we're
Speaker 4: talking about on the show. Yeah, you know this many years,
Speaker 4: i mean almost twenty years later, that we're still having
Speaker 4: these conversations as a nation, right, Like, let's just you know,
Speaker 4: make it make it about that that. I just I
Speaker 4: think that you just did such an incredible job of
Speaker 4: towing the line of like straight like right right right by,
Speaker 4: straight by just somehow is like just just once.
Speaker 2: I don't know, like we need.
Speaker 1: More of the Daniel means because you were so sort
Speaker 1: of accepting and you did come down to you came
Speaker 1: to our house all to your point like you would
Speaker 1: come to the Suarez house. You were sort of so
Speaker 1: open to that side of life and even the I
Speaker 1: mean granted you were you know, Daniel was in this
Speaker 1: sort of fashion world of it all, but still so
Speaker 1: so speaking of like, what was it like working with
Speaker 1: you know, Vanessa, what was it like working with America? Like,
Speaker 1: because you guys had a very very close well, you
Speaker 1: just had like I don't know, you had a very
Speaker 1: strong chemistry on screen that was just palpable. So I wonder,
Speaker 1: you know, like how that sort of.
Speaker 5: Because I feel like I'm sure we all did, but
Speaker 5: I felt like I developed a close relationship with everyone
Speaker 5: that was different, like you know, you and Noah and
Speaker 5: you and getting to know Mark through with your parents
Speaker 5: around like you know, and seeing I was sort of
Speaker 5: envious of you guys because you had your family unit
Speaker 5: and do your things and I was off doing my
Speaker 5: stuff and I would be like, oh, we'd be passing
Speaker 5: one another, so we chance to do scenes together was
Speaker 5: it was just so exciting to me. And we won't
Speaker 5: talk about the pilot, but having Vanessa be a part.
Speaker 2: Of Oh no, we know. We went ahead and talked
Speaker 2: about the.
Speaker 3: So you hear Richard Shepherd's I'm going to get sore.
Speaker 2: We haven't named her lastly come home.
Speaker 3: You know you're going to have to hear it. And
Speaker 3: then you don't. He called her dog, go go, go,
Speaker 3: say what you're going to say?
Speaker 5: Just you know, in each and each iteration Daniel's interaction,
Speaker 5: there was a there was an on screen relationship being
Speaker 5: developed in an off screen one. Yeah, so real, it's
Speaker 5: true and not just our error. I don't think I've
Speaker 5: ever had a job where I want to hang out
Speaker 5: with anyone everyone so much because we see each other
Speaker 5: like sixty hours a week, right, it was a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then we hung out afterwards, like we saw
Speaker 1: you all the time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, all the time. Yeah, I mean Dumbo, Brooklyn Heights.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we've we lived very close to one another,
Speaker 1: Eric and I and my husband and Noah, my husband,
Speaker 1: Noah and Eric were very close, and Ivy and I,
Speaker 1: his wife and I were very close.
Speaker 3: And again, like it was the whole.
Speaker 4: Baby situation totally. But I guess that, like we have
Speaker 4: to wrap up in a second.
Speaker 1: But but wait wait, I reserved, but I reserve the right.
Speaker 5: Eric.
Speaker 3: Maybe as to you coming back on the.
Speaker 4: Phone, yeah, oh no please, like like this is you
Speaker 4: have to come back.
Speaker 5: We can do this as often as you.
Speaker 2: Guys, I love you so much.
Speaker 3: Are you coming to La soon?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 5: I don't know. I'm supposed to come this fall, but
Speaker 5: I just I just got another job and I'm leaving.
Speaker 1: Them all right.
Speaker 4: Well well well.
Speaker 5: No, no, I don't mean that like that.
Speaker 3: No, I'm kidding. I'm being faccious about to be.
Speaker 5: Living there. Really, It's just life has taken me here
Speaker 5: and I'm not really no.
Speaker 2: No, but we've got it.
Speaker 4: We have to reserve the right to just you know,
Speaker 4: have you on as much as we possibly can. I mean,
Speaker 4: we're you know, we're we're recapping the entire season, so
Speaker 4: there is far more of Daniel mead that, Like, we
Speaker 4: have so much more to talk to you.
Speaker 1: We haven't even Also, we haven't even gone to the
Speaker 1: episode where you and I almost hook up, but not quite.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, we're not there yet.
Speaker 3: I'm excited about it.
Speaker 2: I haven't yet quiet down.
Speaker 5: We were like, what are we going to do with this?
Speaker 5: You're like, what are we going to do with this?
Speaker 3: Damn? We could have had such a good storyline.
Speaker 4: My question, I think that this is a good way
Speaker 4: to close it out in terms of a question, how
Speaker 4: did you feel when the show ended?
Speaker 2: And what did you take from the set?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good, Okay? How did you feel and what
Speaker 1: did you take?
Speaker 5: How did I feel? I still feel like it's one
Speaker 5: of the great relationships that ended too, So say that right, Like,
Speaker 5: it's like a part of my heart was broken and
Speaker 5: it's still a little bit broken. Right. It heals, but
Speaker 5: it's still it hurts, Like I remember it the whole move,
Speaker 5: that's just uprooting our lives and coming into New York
Speaker 5: and realizing how much better the show was for it.
Speaker 5: But then to have that sort of ripped away from us,
Speaker 5: it was, you know, we had I think we had
Speaker 5: two more good seasons.
Speaker 3: Left, I thought, so totally. What did you take from sad?
Speaker 2: What did you take Furniture?
Speaker 5: I got the l A desk lamps and the New
Speaker 5: York desk lamps. That's it. Yeah, And because they sold
Speaker 5: all the stuff to props, Yeah, get on my suits
Speaker 5: and I have like probably twenty of my suits from
Speaker 5: the show.
Speaker 3: I remember those.
Speaker 5: Shoot, I could wear some of the old suits.
Speaker 3: No, don't tell them that. Don't tell them.
Speaker 2: Quiet down now, maybe Eric, I'll tell them. Okay, yeah, we.
Speaker 3: Love you the most, the most.
Speaker 4: And this is this is this is not the last
Speaker 4: that you will be hearing and seeing Eric.
Speaker 2: Maybe us on this podcast. By the way, you've got
Speaker 2: my digits.
Speaker 5: Let me know.
Speaker 3: I love you so much.
Speaker 2: We love you so much.
Speaker 5: Maybe it's not.
Speaker 1: Come and live in my house. Please, my husband misses
Speaker 1: you desperately. He needs a friend. No, my husband needs
Speaker 1: a friend. Please come, please come then hang.
Speaker 4: Out with Don't make him sound so desperately that Jesus
Speaker 4: not sorry.
Speaker 2: Yeah I know, but come to town.
Speaker 5: I'll ring no up and we'll go see a show exactly.
Speaker 3: They both love music like please come home.
Speaker 4: And we and we will be texting you voraciously about
Speaker 4: coming back on.
Speaker 2: I love you so much, we love you.
Speaker 1: I don't know what vampire blood you're drinking, but keep drinking.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, keep drinking that children's vampire blood or whatever.
Speaker 3: Go into the Base Pizzeria basement and get.
Speaker 2: The Bass Pizza Base.
Speaker 3: Was saying, there, baby blood.
Speaker 2: Yeah with Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 3: Love we love you.
Speaker 1: We love you, love you. Okay, so before we leave,
Speaker 1: we're going to answer some of your questions, but we
Speaker 1: actually today have somebody who's going to help us very
Speaker 1: special guests, very special guest in the studio, in the studio.
Speaker 1: And it's also because I don't really know how to
Speaker 1: read that well, So.
Speaker 3: Christopher here, I think Chris Gorham, you should read the first.
Speaker 6: Hi, all right, Dante poll emailed.
Speaker 7: He said, Hi, Betty, fam, my name is Dante. Ugly
Speaker 7: Betty meant so much to me growing up. It helped
Speaker 7: me see myself and my story reflected on TV for
Speaker 7: the first time. Justin and Hilda's relationship reminded me of
Speaker 7: my own with my mom, love, her humor and her
Speaker 7: fierce protectiveness. My question is the storylines in Ugly Betty
Speaker 7: were so inspirational and meaningful to so many people. Was
Speaker 7: there ever a fan encounter or moment that really drove
Speaker 7: home the power of what you were creating and when
Speaker 7: you were when you realized the show was bigger than
Speaker 7: you expected.
Speaker 6: Much love, Dante from Cape Town, South Africa.
Speaker 2: It's a fantastic question.
Speaker 3: Cape Town bring us out, y'all, and.
Speaker 4: Also what a what a lovely thoughtful question. I feel
Speaker 4: I feel that the the ways in which people approached
Speaker 4: me now are far more impactful than in the the show.
Speaker 3: A little little yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean, Like where where
Speaker 4: it's it's I get it now, I suppose.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: I remember a very specific moment. I was in New York.
Speaker 1: It was probably it must have been after season two,
Speaker 1: so we had been on for a minute, and like
Speaker 1: all the things had happened, you know, America won the
Speaker 1: Emmy in the Golden Globe, and we were sort of
Speaker 1: revving up and becoming this thing. And I was in
Speaker 1: New York walking down the street and I remember, you know,
Speaker 1: like in New York you always get sort of cat
Speaker 1: called or you know, whatever the thing is. But I
Speaker 1: remember walking on the street and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I just hear hell, and I turn around and it's
Speaker 1: like this gaggle of like young Latino gay men and
Speaker 1: they just ran over to me and they were like,
Speaker 1: you're Hilda, Oh my god, we love you so much.
Speaker 3: And one of them was like, my mother is just
Speaker 3: like you. And one of them was like, I wish
Speaker 3: my mother was just like you. And then they started.
Speaker 1: Talking among themselves about like their mothers and sort of
Speaker 1: who was supported and who was not, and including me
Speaker 1: in that conversation. And I remember that as being a
Speaker 1: really like impactful moment and them including and just them
Speaker 1: having that conversation in the moment on the street in
Speaker 1: New York City, you know, just they were just having
Speaker 1: a party and they came up to me and it's
Speaker 1: just sort of and they sort of had that conversation
Speaker 1: among themselves with me, and that to me, I knew, like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is like a at least in the Latine community.
Speaker 3: Like for me, that was a really you know, because
Speaker 3: it's still it's still stigmatized.
Speaker 1: I think being gay or trans or any of the
Speaker 1: things queer and being Latino is still or Latina or
Speaker 1: Latine is still there's still a little bit of a
Speaker 1: lot of a stigma attached to it. So it was
Speaker 1: nice to have that freedom and these young men doing
Speaker 1: that with me in that moment, and that's when I knew.
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, I'm the cool mom you are.
Speaker 4: I mean, I wish that I would have been able
Speaker 4: to have that experience. I feel like now, like, as
Speaker 4: you know, as a grown man, I feel like I
Speaker 4: would be able to have that experience.
Speaker 3: Well, we shielded you from a lot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I feel like it was always very much
Speaker 4: like get away from him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we definitely get away from him, even when it.
Speaker 2: Was even when it was nice. Yeah, we didn't know, right,
Speaker 2: so I wasn't around. Okay, we have someone from Italy next.
Speaker 6: Okay, Frederico Pedronie. Frederico from Italy here, loving the podcast,
Speaker 6: Thanks so much for doing it. I have a question
Speaker 6: for Mark, since you are also Italian, how did you
Speaker 6: relate to play a Latino question?
Speaker 2: It's a great question.
Speaker 6: What similarities did you find between the two cultures?
Speaker 2: Coo oh c choo.
Speaker 4: I think that that at least you know, as an
Speaker 4: Italian American the I mean, the cultures are very very similar.
Speaker 4: You know, loud people, food, love, lots of food, but
Speaker 4: also loud and lots of love. Hot, you know, like
Speaker 4: like hot, like like boiling up hot, zero, explosive, you know, family,
Speaker 4: but also sexy, hot and gorgeous. No, I mean, listen,
Speaker 4: I feel such kinship to so as an Italian, to
Speaker 4: so many like like cultures and and different positionalities. I
Speaker 4: feel that, you know, I mean so many of my
Speaker 4: Jewish friends, like our Jewish friends like where it's like, who.
Speaker 2: Could it's the same. It's the same thing food.
Speaker 4: It might be different, it might be it might just
Speaker 4: be like, you know, a different cuisine, but it's the
Speaker 4: same disposition.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's the same vibe, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Like everyone is in on your fucking business and.
Speaker 3: Never eating enough? And why don't you call me?
Speaker 4: Why don't you call me? And why didn't you finish
Speaker 4: your plate? I'm like, well have you because you put
Speaker 4: two pounds of pasta on the plate, two.
Speaker 3: Pounds of and I can't do another bite. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: get it, I hear you.
Speaker 4: I can't eat two pounds of pasta?
Speaker 2: And do you know catch this tea?
Speaker 4: When my grandma would do dinner, it was like Sunday dinner, right, Sunday,
Speaker 4: gravy everything. It was seven of us five pounds of pasta.
Speaker 4: Well for seven people, it's too much.
Speaker 3: And yet if you didn't need it, she was upset.
Speaker 2: And I always had the obviously you know, I was
Speaker 2: teacher's pet. So I was sitting right.
Speaker 3: Next to this is why he needs with.
Speaker 4: Withovy Mike, thank you, Frederico.
Speaker 7: Alright, last one, last one, from Gabriel Jermaine. How do
Speaker 7: you think Ugly Betty has reshaped TV shows for women?
Speaker 3: I think that's a question for you.
Speaker 6: I know it changed my life.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know what the question I felt like I
Speaker 7: as the cis white man in the room answer yeah,
Speaker 7: you're right, and you know, how has it changed shows
Speaker 7: for women? I think it's set up a really unhealthy
Speaker 7: expectation for what your nerdy boyfriend should look like. I
Speaker 7: don't think that it was, you know, underneath the I
Speaker 7: think it's it's just.
Speaker 6: I think it's a I think it's a lot. I mean,
Speaker 6: speaking personally, I.
Speaker 3: Think you know, you get a struggle, something to aspire to.
Speaker 6: Well, that's that's nice.
Speaker 4: It's nice to be saying well, yeah, I mean, if
Speaker 4: you're gonna, if you're gonna like be the nerdy boyfriend,
Speaker 4: you better take off your shirt and there'd be something underneath.
Speaker 7: But let me say but now, to be to be
Speaker 7: serious for a second, I think it's one of the
Speaker 7: things that I always loved about our Betty. Yes, was
Speaker 7: that unlike all the other Betties around the world, which
Speaker 7: was a story about an ugly duckling, story about you know,
Speaker 7: and then about the Betty falling in love with the
Speaker 7: Daniel character and living happily ever after. Our Betty was
Speaker 7: never about a romance. Our Betty was.
Speaker 6: About, you know, a modern woman like growing up to
Speaker 6: find out who she is on her own. Not that
Speaker 6: she can't fall in love.
Speaker 3: No, but that wasn't the central correct. That's right? Yeah,
Speaker 3: you get an A plus.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And I always love that about this show, even
Speaker 7: when it meant I had to be written off it.
Speaker 3: And on that we leave you all. Thank you for
Speaker 3: your questions.
Speaker 4: Please don't stop, Please keep giving us questions. Hello Instagram
Speaker 4: at Viva Betty Podcast, email at Viva Betty potat gmail
Speaker 4: dot com.
Speaker 2: Like this is kind of my Italy.
Speaker 3: I mean, these are incredible.
Speaker 4: This is so much fun for us, and please please
Speaker 4: keep it going.
Speaker 3: Love you so much.
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Speaker 2: We are your hosts on Orties and Market Delacato.
Speaker 1: Our executive producers are Terry Weinberg, Lyn Lee, and Diego Fapia.
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Speaker 4: directed and edited by Mark A.
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