1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: So for the most part, y'all know this already, but 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: I love connecting with other dope women and having those 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: conversations that I feel that the listeners can either benefit 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: from because these conversations going to either relate to the 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: professional or the homegirl within you. So this week episode, 6 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: I really wanted to send some encouragement to my professional 7 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: women out there that's want to excel within their careers. 8 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: I feel like right now everybody thinks, everybody feels like 9 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 1: entrepreneurship is the thing to do is sexy, and I 10 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: just wanted to send some encouragement to those who want 11 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: to grow with their their company or within their career 12 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: and they might be having difficulty with leveraging with the 13 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,599 Speaker 1: skills that they already have. So if you are a 14 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: professional woman, please make sure to listen to this episode 15 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 1: Get No Play it out. If you want to connect 16 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: with my guests, hit me up, email me or DM me, 17 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: or even to the guys out there. But she was 18 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: just so dope, and even as I'm transitioning into being 19 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: an entrepreneur, I even thought that the conversation was super 20 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: informative and the site full and just like inspiring, Like 21 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: she got my whole life together. So I really hope 22 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: that John Jordan this week's episode and hit me up. 23 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: Let me know what y'all think, because you know I'm 24 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 1: always looking for a good key. Keep you out until 25 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: next time later. 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Now, 43 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: please keep in mind that all of my guests are anonymous. 44 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: So let's again this week's episode. As always, I am 45 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: super excited about this week's episode. My guest today is 46 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: a doctor, a writer, a professor, a speaker, and a 47 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: career development strate teagious who drives at the intersection of storytelling, 48 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: career and community development amongst women. So to my guests, 49 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: how are you doing? 'm well, thanks for having me, 50 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: of course, how has the pen between you? Um? Well, 51 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: I mean more nearly a million people have died over 52 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: the course of the last year, um, and I have 53 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: so much sympathy, um, and empathy for the life was 54 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: lost and the families um, who just have gaps right 55 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: in there, um, around their dinner tables, you know, in 56 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: their homes. Um. And that loss is just immense. It's 57 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: it's even hard to fathom what that is, because the 58 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: numbers are so large, um. And so I have like 59 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: a lot of empathy and sort of sadness and sorrow 60 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: for for all of the lives lost and all of 61 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: the people just in general who haven't lost their life 62 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: but who have been severely impacted by the pandemic. But 63 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: I would say me personally, I'm really grateful UM that 64 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: I have build a career that I love and I've 65 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: been able to sustain that career and help other women 66 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: UM and their careers thrived despite the challenging economic situation, 67 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: despite the raging pandemic, and despite of UM racial injustice 68 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: that plagues our country, even more so because we've been 69 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: cooped up in the house because of pandemic and there's 70 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: so much fear and and skepticism now as well. So UM, 71 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: I'm grateful to say that I've thrived over the last year, 72 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: but I have so much empathy for those who haven't. Yeah. Now, 73 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 1: But I also need qualification. What is a career coach 74 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: and what do you specialize in? Sure? So I would 75 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: say generally, a career coach is someone who's going to 76 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: provide you with direction and support UM and specific targeted 77 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: strategies to help you advance your career. My specific work UM. 78 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,559 Speaker 1: In my work, I merely work with professional women, those 79 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: in corporate, nonprofit and educational leadership, and I provide them 80 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: with specific strategy and have more impact in their career. 81 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: My work is specifically targeted around helping women make a 82 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 1: minimum ten thousand dollars more than their current salary UM, 83 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: although many of my mentees are seeing dollar salary increases, 84 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: and to help them to learn how to advocate for 85 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: themselves and position themselves for the highest levels of leadership 86 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: UM and I have two programs in which I do that. 87 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: In a mentor Me Accelerator, which is a sixth week, 88 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: fast paced career advancement accelerator for new and mid level 89 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: professional women UM and that's where really I'm helping women 90 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: understand what they're good at, understand how to articulate their value. 91 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: I help make sure that their values UM and their 92 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: expertise is showing up well on their materials, their cover letter, 93 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: the resume, their LinkedIn, we talk, interview, strategy, negotiation, strategy 94 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: UM and first ninety days on the job so they 95 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: can start with success and new roles. And then I 96 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: also have a mentor Me Mastermind that's more for mid 97 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: level and senior level professional women and the Mastermind is 98 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: specifically designed to help women advance to the highest levels 99 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: of leadership. Those are for women who are looking to 100 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: get out of middle management. They're really looking for director 101 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: level roles UM A VP, roles, vice president, roles, chief 102 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: managing officer roles and those are in that program. It's 103 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,559 Speaker 1: a six month executive coaching program. And there I'm really 104 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: talking about high level leader mindset strategies and career development 105 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: strategies like supervision and using data to tell stories and 106 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: project management and office politics so that you can operate 107 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: at the highest levels of leadership. Yes, that's what I'm 108 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: talking about. What what inspired you to what inspired you 109 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 1: to become a current coach? I have been working in corporate, 110 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: nonprofit and educational leadership for nearly fifty years, so I 111 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: have a lot of expertise in this space. Um, and 112 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: I thought that everyone knew what I knew. But about 113 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: a year and a half ago, I was helping a 114 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: friend prepare for an interview. It's really good, Like this 115 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: is transformative. I've never thought of it this way or 116 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: I've never thought to do it this way. And I'm like, oh, yeah, 117 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 1: you know this, she's just how you do it. She's like, no, 118 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: everyone doesn't know this, Like this is this is expert 119 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: level knowledge. Like people aren't thinking about it this way. 120 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: They aren't they don't know to do it the way 121 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: you're teaching. You should teach people this. And I was like, 122 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like this is common knowledge 123 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: and she was like, no, it's not UM. And so 124 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: what I did was I just expanded my brand. I 125 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: started as a podcaster like you, I host a weekly 126 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: podcast called School in Life UM, and on School and 127 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: Life I started to talk about mentorship and career development 128 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: and my my listeners who were loving it, and they 129 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: were like UM. And over time, I've been able to 130 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: build UM and grow my business UM in this space 131 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: and and offer small group executive coaching and career development 132 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: UM strategy sessions for professional women to help them advance 133 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: their careers in the same ways that I've been able 134 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: to do for myself. And I also watched her a lot. 135 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: They're irrelatable. Thank you. I appreciate that. I think that 136 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: a lot of women believe that they have to be 137 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: someone else or be different than they already are to 138 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: advance to the highest levels of leadership. They are plagued 139 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: by imposter syndrome. They don't see anybody like them in 140 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: their industry. They don't know that they can do this. 141 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: They have fallen to all the myths of career development. 142 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: Oh this industry doesn't make any money, or oh there 143 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: are no jobs out there, or oh, you have to 144 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: go get another degree, another certification, and thirty dollars more 145 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: of debt student loan debt to advance your care and 146 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: that's just not true. I help professional women make more 147 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: money and have more impact in their careers using what 148 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: they already have, the skills that they already have, the degrees, 149 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: the credentials, the expertise that they already have. And I 150 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: do that being exactly who I am, never fronting, never 151 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: putting on um, operating in complete authenticity, and teaching other 152 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: women to do the same. What were some challenges you 153 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: facing your career development. I think the biggest challenge I've 154 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: faced in my career development is learning how to manage 155 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: up and lead from where I am. I think that 156 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: I got to a point in my career where I 157 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: was like a mid level leadership. I was like a coordinator, specialist, 158 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: assistant director of those kind of roles, and you know, 159 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: I had enough power and influence to not be at 160 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 1: the bottom rung, but I didn't have enough power and 161 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: influence and really get people to listen to me. They 162 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: were like, Okay, yeah, that's cute girl. And I knew 163 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: that I had really great innovative ideas and ways to 164 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: movie the organization forward, but no one was really listening 165 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: to I'm me. I was waving my hands, hey, hey 166 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: over here, Hey, I have a good idea, but they 167 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: were like, okay, that's cute. Next, And I was making 168 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: probably about thirty thousand dollars less than I should have 169 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: been um at the time, And so I was like, 170 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: how do I manage up? How do I leave from 171 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: where I am? How do I get people to pay 172 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: attention to me? How do I like, you know, like 173 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: get to a higher level of leadership? And honestly, you know, 174 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: once I mastered those skills and I learned how to 175 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: do that, that's actually why I developed the Mastermind. I 176 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: started mentoring around the accelerator level, really helping new and 177 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: mid level professional women, really talking about job search strategy, 178 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: interview strategy, negotiation strategy. Like that's where I started my business. 179 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: But what I learned is that that was great for 180 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: those new and midd level professional women. But then there's 181 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: this whole group of women who are in the murky 182 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: middle who know how to write a strong um, you know, 183 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 1: color letter, who feel really good about their salary negotiation strategies, 184 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 1: but what they need is how do I get out 185 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: of middle management? How do I get my organization and 186 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: notice me and pay me like an expert that I 187 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: literally am. And that's why I created the Mastermind because 188 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: that was a challenge I was experiencing, like I couldn't 189 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: get anyone to listen. And then once I refined my 190 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: strategies and I got them to listen to me, then 191 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: I started applying those strategies to my menties, right and 192 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: I was like, hey, I have a I have a 193 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: framework to get people listen to you. I have a 194 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: framework to get out of that assistant director, associate director 195 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: role and really get to those senior level director, vice president, 196 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: a VP level role. Like I have a framework for that, 197 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: and I can teach. I've taught the Mastermind UM twice before. 198 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: I'm recruiting new mentees for it right now, and I'm 199 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: just so grateful that like, this isn't I mean, I 200 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: have a PhD in education, as you mentioned, but this 201 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: isn't something that I learned through my PhD program. This 202 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: is something that I've learned through my career, you know, 203 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: and and and and I've now been able to refine 204 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: it into a framework that I can teach other women, 205 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 1: and that feels like a really proud moment. Yes, that's 206 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. I feel that passion one of 207 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: some kind of mistakes that women make that that you 208 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: feel like, hold them back professionally. I think the most 209 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: common mistake is that women don't know how to clearly 210 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 1: articulate what they're good at, and so they are just 211 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: saying things like I'm a team player, I'm creative, I'm passionate. 212 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: And what they don't realize is that that commentary, no 213 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: one's listening, no one's paying attention, no one cares because 214 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 1: you know what, employers aren't looking for someone who's passionate. 215 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: No employer is posting a job posting like we're looking 216 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: for a passionate like that's why or employers have problems. 217 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: Their job posting is a literal problem. It's a problem 218 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: that they have and they're looking for a solution. You 219 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 1: are the solution, at least you should be right, you 220 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: should be positioned as a solution. And too often women 221 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: are like just talking generally about like what skills they 222 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: have or what you know, like I'm a team player, 223 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: I'm passionate, I'm a hard worker, and that's not getting 224 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 1: them anywhere. And what's true is that those are things 225 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: that are true about them, but they don't know how 226 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: to articulate at a higher level of leadership. They don't 227 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 1: know to call themselves to describe their skill set is 228 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: that they're great at stakeholder engagement and strategic thinking. They 229 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: don't understand that they need to be able to position 230 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: themselves as an energetic and empathetic leader. They don't need 231 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: they don't know that they need to articulate their skill 232 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: sets around futuristic thinking and project management and using gata 233 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: to tell stories. Right, those are things that I teach 234 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: in my accelerator and in my mastermind and once women 235 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: not only like because what's true is that so many 236 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 1: of you already have the skills. You already have the 237 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: level of expertise. But what you're missing is your ability 238 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: to clearly, confidently and concisely articulate what you're good at 239 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: and your ability to solve a problem in a meaningful way. 240 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: Because that's a different between someone who has a lot 241 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 1: of degrees and has a lot of credentials and is 242 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: going nowhere and someone who's a dancing to the high 243 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: levels of leadership it's through through skill articulation, and that's 244 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: what I teach in my programs, and that what I 245 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: find often is the missing link for professional women. It's 246 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: not that you don't have the degree, it's not that 247 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: you don't have the credential or the expertise, is that 248 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: you're not well articulated and positioned in the marketplace. Well, 249 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: that was my next question. So I noticed that I 250 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: was reading something about you, and I was during research 251 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: telling you, and I noticed that you said that you 252 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: experience imposta centrome as well. So you can you explain 253 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 1: what posti centrome is and how you overcame it? Yeah, 254 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: and I would say I haven't overcame it, so really yeah, No, 255 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 1: absolutely doesn't go away. And I think that one of 256 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: the that's one of the things I want women to know. 257 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: So imposter syndrome is the belief that you're not good enough, 258 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 1: that you don't belong in the room. Years of experience 259 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: and expertise in your degree and all the paths on 260 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: the back that you've gotten up to this point, you 261 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: still don't think you're good enough to do the work, 262 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: And I mean away. That's what imposter syndrome is, and 263 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: it doesn't go away. And so if you are like, 264 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: how can I just get imposter syndrome to go away? 265 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: How can I move beyond imposter syndrome? Like, girl, you're 266 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: playing a losing game. I have nearly fifteen years of 267 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: professional experience. I have a PhD. In my field. I've 268 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: been toward hundreds of women um across the country, and 269 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: over a year and a half of my business, I've 270 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: made over a hundred thousand dollars in my business. I 271 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: made over a hundred thousand dollars in my career, and 272 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: I had imposter syndrome this morning, right like it exists 273 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: in the world. You're never going to get over it. 274 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: What you need to do is learn how to use 275 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: imposter syndrome to your advantage. Those feelings of nervousness or 276 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: I don't belong in the room, or is this right 277 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: for me? Those are actually warning signs that might be 278 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: telling you it's time to move on from this career, 279 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: from this industry, from this functional area. If every time 280 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: you have a challenging conversation you are experiencing imposter syndrome, 281 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: that need means that you need to learn how to 282 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: manage up. It doesn't mean that you should just like 283 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: you should be like, oh, I'm scared, you know, I 284 00:14:58,480 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: don't know what to do. Let me crumble, let me 285 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: shrink high. It means that you need to learn a skill. 286 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: They're like, managing up and leading from where you are 287 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: and having challenging conversations is a skill. And too often 288 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: we're like, Okay, I need another degree, I need another certification, 289 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: I need another credential. None of those are teaching you 290 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: how to have the challenging conversations that you need to have, 291 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: how to advocate for yourself, how to speak up for yourself. Right, 292 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: those are skills. And even though I have those skills, 293 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: I teach those skills, impostor syndrome still comes up because 294 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: it's a thing that exists in the world. You know, 295 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: we live in a patriarchal um you know, society which 296 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: tells women in particular that our value is very little, 297 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: that it's very limited. I identify as a black woman, 298 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: I'm short in stature. People discount me all the time. 299 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: It's just a thing, right that that's never that's I mean, well, 300 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: maybe one day it will go away. But you know, racism, sexism, ages, 301 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: and all those things exist and they're not gonna magically 302 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: disappear because you're proud of yourself and because you have 303 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: a degree. What I want women to do instead is 304 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: to learn how to advocate for themselves, how to speak 305 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: up for themselves, how to articulate their skill set in 306 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: a way that they come come at imposter syndrome. Because, 307 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: for example, this morning, when I had to send an 308 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: email and managing up and advocating for myself and my 309 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: staff to my boss, and I sit sitting on the email, 310 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know how it's gonna go. 311 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: See see what she say. And I was still nervous, 312 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: even though I have a great relationship with my supervisor 313 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: and I've managed up and I've advocated for myself before, 314 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: but even still it sometimes pops up right. So, but 315 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: we have to move through imposter syndrome. We're never gonna 316 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: get over it. We're not gonna dismiss it. There's no 317 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: no way that it goes away. But we can navigate it. 318 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: And what's great is because I managed up and because 319 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: I left from where I was, and because I operated 320 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: in off that authenticity, and because I didn't shrink when 321 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: I had, you know, when my staff member, you know, 322 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: told me what happened. I knew I had to advocate 323 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: because I didn't shrink. My boss within an hour email 324 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: me back right. And so even though I felt the 325 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: imposter syndrome, I was able to navigate through that, not 326 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: shrink it, and I had it, not push it down, 327 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: I jump over it, walk right through it, and get 328 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: the result that I was looking forward to advocate for 329 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: myself and my team. Mm hmm, so I would just 330 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 1: says the many reason why people get stuck with in 331 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: their career is it because it's a skill that they missing. No, 332 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 1: it's typically not skill related. Most women get stuck out 333 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: of fear, shame, or lack of direction and knowledge. So 334 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: the fear is like fear of the unknown. I don't 335 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: know what's next. Um, I'm not sure if I can 336 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: do what's next. Um, I know what's next, but I 337 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: don't want to do it. Shame like I'm too old, 338 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: I'm too young, I'm too disabled, I'm too big, too small, 339 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: I don't live in the right city right, like the 340 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: shame of I should have done this, I should have 341 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: done that. Like there's fear, shame, and then there's lack 342 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: of support and direction. So many women do not have mentors. 343 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: They just don't have women in their lives who can 344 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: provide them with the expert level direction of support that 345 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 1: they need. Right, that's a gap, that's a skill set, 346 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: and that's that's what I do. This is why I 347 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: do this work because I am a mentor. I'm here 348 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: to help you and provide you with the direction and 349 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 1: support that you need to advance your career. Or they 350 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: have mentors, but their mentors aren't providing any substantive like support. 351 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, maybe you should do this, call this person, 352 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: have you thought about this? But they're not providing strategy. 353 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: They provide ideas. Maybe if the most they dropping gems 354 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: or oh that's that's that's awesome, and you're writing on 355 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:14,719 Speaker 1: a post it and then you throw it in your 356 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: person you forget about it. You need someone to walk alongside, 357 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: thank someone who's going to provide you with ongoing to support, 358 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: who's gonna be there to to to provide you with 359 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 1: that wraparound engagement. And that's the level of support that 360 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: I provide as a mentor through mentority. Because I have 361 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 1: a lot of ideas, I need the strategy to get 362 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: to implement those ideas and make some money. Off of 363 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: them so I can be able to do more things 364 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 1: you and every other woman in the world. Right, So 365 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: what would just say it's the right time to make 366 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: a transition in one's career now whenever you yeah, right now, 367 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: like if you're like like for any reason, right, Like, 368 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 1: let's say you're not making enough money, or let's say 369 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: you're not having enough impact, or let's say, um, you're 370 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: having trouble like managing up and really leading from where 371 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: you are. Let's say you feel unmotivated, uninspired, unengaged in 372 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 1: your current position. Let's say you feel overwhelmed and fatigued 373 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: in your job search and it's not yielding any results. 374 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: Let's say you continue to you do. You are applying 375 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: for jobs and you're even getting callbacks, and then you 376 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 1: can you talk to the people in like, this job 377 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: is that for me? This is not even the feel 378 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 1: that I want to work in. This job isn't gonna 379 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: make me any money the moment that you like And actually, 380 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 1: I would say it's before that you realize it. At 381 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: every at every point in your career development, you should 382 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 1: have a mentor a high level, expert level mentor. I 383 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: have to I love my job, I've been in my 384 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: job for more than five years. I've mentor hundreds of 385 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 1: women and I have two mentors, right, Like, there's never 386 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: a point in your career development that where you don't 387 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: need to be in for career development. So the time 388 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: to have a mentor, the time to make the advancements 389 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: in your career, the time is now. So in what place? 390 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: Because I want to play office politics? So there has 391 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: been official for them in the long run. So office politics, 392 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: and I think that what's true about office politics is 393 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: that the only thing that people know about them is 394 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 1: that they're bad. I hate politics. You know when someone 395 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 1: did something to me and I didn't like it. Politics. 396 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: I don't have time. I did a lot of about 397 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: because recently I don't have time to play games. I 398 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 1: don't play games, right, you know this kind of attitude 399 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: that people have, And I'm like you, you're not playing games, 400 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: but you're playing yourself, right, Like you think that often 401 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: you only know about the bad side of office politics. 402 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: All you know is about the lying and the sucking 403 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: up and the rumors. And you think that that's what 404 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: office politics is. You literally think that you think that 405 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: the only thing office politics is good for us, For 406 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: sucking up and for rumors and for lies and manipulation, 407 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: and for people trying to get to the top and 408 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 1: position themselves and posture themselves in front of the boss. 409 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: What you don't know is that there's a whole other 410 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: side to office politics, which looks like positioning yourself as 411 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: a highly capable, high achieving professional who gets things done. 412 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: There's a whole another side to office politics which will 413 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: allow you to have your ideas taken seriously, which will 414 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: allow you to influence the what decisions that other people 415 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: make in the office, that will help you position yourself 416 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,719 Speaker 1: to a higher level of leadership and actually get your recognized, 417 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: get your contributions recognized by the organization. Right, But because 418 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 1: you don't play games quote unquote, and you don't got 419 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: time to be in people fail or whatever you whatever 420 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: excuse you're using right now to not really engage in 421 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 1: politics and not actually invest to learn how to use 422 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 1: them in a meaningful way. You play yourself, right, and 423 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: so you only know the bad side you think it's 424 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: and then and then you're mad because you're like, oh, 425 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: someone so got a promotion over me, and so they 426 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,479 Speaker 1: play favorites. You're not playing at all. You're not even 427 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: playing the game. You're not even in the game because 428 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: your ego, your ego has you so stand off, is 429 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 1: so hurt. So you know, whatever that you are won't 430 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: even engage in the professional development that you need to 431 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: learn how to use office politics to your advantage. And 432 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: so this is something that I teach in them Mastermind. 433 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 1: This is session UM nine of the Mastermind, and I 434 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 1: teach how to leverage office office politics to get what 435 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: you want. And there are four um strategies in using 436 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 1: office politics that I teach my mentees and how to 437 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: not only learn the strategies strategies, but then we implement 438 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: them and for weeks in the Mastermind, you will implement them. 439 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: You will I have scripts for you. You will have 440 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: conversations with different stakeholders in your organizations so you can 441 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,719 Speaker 1: learn how to politics, so you can test it so 442 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: that you can make the advancements you need so that 443 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: you can get what you want in your career. And 444 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: what most women want is more money, more visibility, UM 445 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: you know, UM, you know, higher level UM levels of leadership, 446 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: more authority in their work. Right, So whatever that is, 447 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: We've developed a roadmap which office politics for you to 448 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: get that I know you'd be giving it to your mentees. 449 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: I do, and they just did it, right, they like, 450 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: I give it and they did it. They are I 451 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: would win I and I jump about this all the 452 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: time with them. But I attract the highest achieve even 453 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: women on the internet. I mean, like I like if 454 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 1: it's like if it's a high achieving woman. I'm actually 455 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: in one of my programs. I have a mentee right now, Ivy. 456 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: Ivy is like a twenty plus year like um nurse educator. 457 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: She has a bachelor's degree, two master's degree, she's working 458 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 1: on her second PhD. She's a freaking rock star. But 459 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 1: like so many other women, Ivy has all these degrees, 460 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: two decades worth of experience, and has no idea how 461 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: to use the degrees, no idea how to package all 462 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: of this level of expertise and deliver it to an employer. 463 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 1: I want that never to happen to another woman again. 464 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: I want to teach you. I don't I mean, i 465 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: I'm serving Ivy. Well, she would tell you that, right, 466 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: but I don't want to. I don't want you to 467 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: wait until you get to Ivy level. I want to 468 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 1: work with you, you know, with the first degree or 469 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 1: maybe the second one, right, Like, I don't want to, 470 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: I don't wish you not to wait until you deferently 471 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: you gotta get you and you're working on your six 472 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: degree to help and learn how to use them. Let's 473 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 1: learn how to use them. Now, let's go ahead. Know 474 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: I was gonna saying, at that point, you're still feeling 475 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: like you don't have enough when you already have enough. 476 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 1: That's it, that's it, and it's the difference is is 477 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: that I think that society and I get it right. 478 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: Society has told black women that in order to be worthy, 479 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: you must have a piece of paper, and your worthiness 480 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: is tied to your educational attainment, which is why now 481 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 1: black women out earned degrees by any other gender and 482 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: race segment. We aren't more degrees than white men, but period, 483 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: we aren't more degrees than white women than any other 484 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: racial demographic, but we are still the lowest earners, right, 485 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: And it's because of leverage, It's because of positioning. It's 486 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: also because of you know, systematic racism. But because I 487 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: can't fix all of that, what I am gonna do 488 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: is teach you how to advocate with what you have, 489 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: so you have no white no let's now you go ahead. Now, 490 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: I was gonna say half the white man don't even 491 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: have degrees. Let's speak on it. Let's speak on it, right, 492 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: and we know that like white privilege is the thing 493 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: we I'm not pretending that systematic system doesn't doesn't exist. 494 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: What I am thinking is, let's be strategic with what 495 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 1: we have. Let's position on what we have. Right. I 496 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: have a PhD. I'm never gonna tell you forget education. 497 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: It's not important, that won't be inauthentic. But what I 498 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: am gonna tell you is that when I when I 499 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 1: was earning my PhD, I was gonna what was what 500 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: was gonna end up happening? And I'm so grateful that 501 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 1: it didn't. I had great mentors and provide me with direction. 502 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: But what what was gonna end up happening is that 503 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: I was gonna have a PhD, and I was gonna 504 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,199 Speaker 1: have like two years of experience, and I still was 505 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: gonna be stuck in a middle management, murky middle because 506 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't know how to leverage. I didn't 507 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: have any experience. I had all these degrees and all 508 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: these credentials, but I didn't know how to leverage. Now 509 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 1: that I've learned how to leverage, now I can teach 510 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: you how to do the same. Mm hmmm. So how 511 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: important is it for someone to upline their values with 512 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: a potential employers values. UM, I don't know that it's 513 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: important for you to align your values with your potential employers. 514 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: I think it's important to identify if a potential employer 515 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: has similar values to you. So one of the things 516 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: that I teach my mentees in UM both the Accelerator 517 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: and the Mastermind is in session too of both programs, 518 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: we talk about values and career area of impact. So 519 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: values are the like your personal compass. Right, these are 520 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: the things that guide your decision making. For example, I 521 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: value autonomy and support. Right, if if I can't do 522 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: what I want to do when I want to do it, 523 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 1: I don't want to do it, right, that's the time, Right, 524 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: that's the time. I don't just like my like the 525 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 1: little saying or whatever. And it's true, like my life 526 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: is patterned after autonomy. This is why I want to 527 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,959 Speaker 1: nobody's brides maide, because that's your day and and on 528 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: that day, I gotta do what you wanna do, and 529 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: I don't want to do that. So I I don't 530 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: want to do it period, Okay, So like and then support, 531 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: like I need people to support me. I need cheerleaders, 532 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 1: I need you know. This is why I invest in 533 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 1: my career development. I have mentors for that I had 534 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: the need direction and support. I have boxes right that 535 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: they provide me with direction and support and so um 536 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: that is critical. And I think that what what ends 537 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: up happening is that like we don't have that level 538 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: of direction and support, and then we and when we're 539 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 1: like job searching and where you're looking for an employer, 540 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,959 Speaker 1: you need to know those values. So I will For example, 541 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: it would not be good for me to likely go 542 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: work in the governmental sector, right because that that sector 543 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: doesn't provide a lot of autonomy. It's locksteps, there are rules, directions, levels, right, Like, 544 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: there's all these and so I'm not gonna go look 545 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: for a high level government job. That wouldn't be ideal 546 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: for me. But in the education sector, which is where 547 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: I work, in addition to you running my business full time, 548 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: I'm able to have a lot of autonomy. There's a 549 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: lot of innovation and and and opportunity for growth and advancement. 550 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 1: That's a good industry for me so, but sometimes you're like, oh, 551 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: it's impostive central, Oh it's impositive. Notes is you're in 552 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 1: the wrong industry. We need to shift you to a 553 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: nonprofit industry, or maybe we need to shift you to 554 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: the tech space, or maybe we need to shift you 555 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: to the public sector. You you think it's impostitition general, 556 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: you think you need another degree, You think this and that, 557 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,160 Speaker 1: and what you don't know is that you just need 558 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: to go through session to the accelerator or the mastermind 559 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: so you can identify what your values are, so that 560 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: we can measure the definition, the um, the alignment, and 561 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: the like strength of those values, and then we can 562 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: tie them two careers, both industries, impact areas, functional areas, 563 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 1: and position titles. And we do that in session too, 564 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 1: so that you don't have to try to align your 565 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: values with the organization. More over, right, more over, you're 566 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: looking to identify which organizations have values that are aligned 567 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 1: with yours. Man, that was a bar. You don't have 568 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:42,959 Speaker 1: impossive syndrome. You don't found what you want to do, man, Now, 569 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: I'm serious, so true, because you can't be in a 570 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: government position and think you could just do what you 571 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: want to do. That's just not gonna work right, right, 572 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: And so many women get so discouraged. They're like, right, 573 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: we'll go back to school. You can get another student loan. Girl, 574 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: you just need to pay like like the like I 575 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: when I helped we on to get a thirty thousand 576 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: dollars salary increase, I mean like like when I helped 577 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: her secure that thirty K increase, she wasn't like like 578 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: she didn't she was lacking nothing. She was lacking nothing 579 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: except for her ability to clearly articulate her skills and 580 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: ask for what she wants. I taught her that the 581 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: people asked offer her thirty thou dollars salary in a 582 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: new role, a thirty thous about salary increase, and she 583 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: asked them where they sure. They're like, well, She's like, 584 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: did you know you not only have this degree, only 585 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: this because I'm like, girl, don't, girl, you don't do 586 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: that now. I know that, you know. We had a 587 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: wrap up call and she she was telling me something 588 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: like Quiana, and I know you didn't almost turn down. 589 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: She's like, I want to make sure. I wanted to 590 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: make sure I didn't. Don't they knew? I know you 591 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: have to get herd together on that one because girl 592 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: don't told her money downtow. I got her together, she 593 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: accepted the role. And now actually she's going on to 594 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: I'm apply and accept um PhD. Right, so she's in 595 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: a she's just started a PhD program. I'mself proud of her. 596 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: But I'm so proud that she now has a salary 597 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: increase to support you know, this new degree or and 598 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: and actually her current organization is paying for it. So 599 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: what she couldn't what she what so many other women do, right, 600 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: is that they don't invest in their career development. They're 601 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: too scared. They don't all I don't have it. Well, 602 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: maybe I need to do this, Maybe I need to 603 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: wait till this person, this person gonna put me on. 604 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: You wait, you wait, you wait, and then you then 605 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: you go and take out sixty dollars in the student 606 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: one day. Right, But what Quianna did was got the position, 607 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: got them to pay for the degree, and got a 608 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: thirty tho dollars salary and cread she basically made ninety 609 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: dollars off of me. And I'm so proud of her. Right, 610 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: I'm so proud and I'm so proud to serve women 611 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: at that level to help them realize those benefits for themselves. 612 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: And I know they gotta be a good feeling for you, Like, 613 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: that's amazing, thank you. So let's talk about gas like 614 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: what does gas like and what does that look like 615 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: at work? Sure? So gas lighting is basically it's defined 616 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: as what women experience when they're told they're not enough, 617 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: that they're not good enough, that their skills, that their 618 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: expertise isn't valued. And it can look like a lot 619 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,479 Speaker 1: of different things, honestly, And one of the things that 620 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: I that I found, um what's true about my um 621 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: mentees is that they often are being gas lit and 622 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: don't even know it, right they they they have heard 623 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: of gas lighting in like relationships. For example, Let's say 624 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: you have a partner and they're like, oh, you're mad 625 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: or what you're mad about? Are you always crying after 626 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: they hurt you, after they hit you? You're an abusive relationship, 627 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: right you? You You know what gaslighting looks like in that space. 628 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: But but what gas lighting looks like in your career 629 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: development is it looks like lies, Oh, well, you didn't 630 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: do that, you didn't have any part in that, when 631 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: they know you did. It looks like you surfing like 632 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: it looks like you them literally taking your idea and 633 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: being like, oh, um, you know I was working on 634 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: this late last night, when you know you, when they 635 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: know you were working on it late late last night, 636 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: they literally took the file from your computer and presented 637 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: it as their own. It looks like faith concern, right, like, Oh, 638 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: how's your little project going? How the thing you were doing? 639 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: I know that, I know last week you had a 640 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: tough conversation with the boss. How are things going? Right? Like, 641 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: they're not really concerned about you, don't they don't really 642 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: support you. It's all faith, it's all lies, it's all 643 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: just faith concerned. It looks like dismissive this right like 644 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: what doesn't matter. Oh, that doesn't matter, that's not important here. 645 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: Oh you're mad for no reason. It's not that serious, right, 646 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: And these gaslighting tactics can really tear you down, both emotionally, 647 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: right Like, it can tear you down emotionally, have you, um, 648 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: you know, second guessing yourself, uncertain of yourself. But it 649 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: also has a lot of professional women like um like 650 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: mentally like not only does it affecting them like emotionally, 651 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: but it also has them affecting their work performance. Now 652 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: they're not really showing up at work. Now, they're not 653 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: raising their hands, now, they're not asking questions. Now, they're 654 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: not doing their best work exactly. Somebody's just gonna manipulate them. 655 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: Someone's just gonna steal their work. Somebody's just gonna pretend 656 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: they didn't do it. And so this is what I 657 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: really fear for professional women. Not only is it impacting 658 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: your mental health right and your your anxiety and depression 659 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: and all of that bubbling up, but it also starts 660 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: to affect your work performance. And that's gonna ruin your reputation. Girl, 661 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: that's not if you start letting gas lighting affect you 662 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: to the point that you're not doing well in your role, 663 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: you can't even move to a new role because you 664 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: ain't got three bad performance room used. Right. And so 665 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: we have to get out of organizations that are gas 666 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: lighting us. When people are like, uh, you're no good 667 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: without me, or if you do that, you're gonna regret it, 668 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: or make sure you loop me into this, when they 669 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: don't got nothing to do with them, right. When if 670 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: we when we let people impact us like that in 671 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: our in our roles, it can impact our work performance, 672 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: and that is bad for your longtime career goals. M 673 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: and I love your message when you say don't stay 674 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: in your lane. Why do you say that? Stay in 675 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: your lane is a tactic and a tool that people 676 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: used to gas like women to keep them small. I'm 677 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: not staying in my lane. All the lanes are mine. 678 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: I will choose lane I desire to be in. Sometimes 679 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: I am advocating on the behalf of my staff. Sometimes 680 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: I'm using data to tell the story of my staff. 681 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm having any challenging conversations with a senior level 682 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: leader to advocate for my team. Sometimes I'm um, you 683 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 1: know presenting, and um you know, you know, teaching and 684 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 1: training and like educating others in my industry. Like this 685 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: whole stay in your lane thing is like limiting and 686 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 1: I think that one of the reasons why work, the 687 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: world of work gets a bad Oh. You know, there's 688 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: no creativity, there's no flexibility. That's your career. In my career, 689 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: there's lots of flexibility, there's lots of creativity, there's lots 690 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: of room to grow. I don't like just because it 691 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: doesn't exist for you doesn't mean it doesn't exist. And 692 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:51,760 Speaker 1: to stay in your lane is used to limit women, 693 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,919 Speaker 1: professional women in particular, to keep them small, to keep 694 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 1: them not expanding. I'm expanding, honey, I'm growing and I 695 00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: won't stay in any lane, and I won't stay in 696 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,720 Speaker 1: a box that anyone's designed for me. And you also 697 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,879 Speaker 1: speak about the importance of community when it comes to mentorship, 698 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: sponsors and accomplishes. So how does one go about finding 699 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: each person? So, if you're looking for a mentor, I'm 700 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: here to serve you, and you can tie me um 701 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: right on my website at mentor d actually dot org. Uh. 702 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: There you can schedule a mentor moment with me, the 703 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 1: opportunity for us to hop on a phone call and talk. 704 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: And I'm looking forward to connecting with your audience around that. 705 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 1: Sponsors are people who maybe work in your industry or 706 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 1: even in your organization, who are higher up than you. Typically, 707 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: this is gonna be someone who's at the higher level 708 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: than you, and this is someone who basically knows about 709 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: your work and can signal boost your work in places 710 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 1: that matter. The people who are gonna signal boost you, 711 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: who are gonna say your name in rooms, who are 712 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: gonna bring you into a conversation that you're not in UM. 713 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 1: And these people you can find by paying attention to 714 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: the field, right, Like who's who who? At work? Do 715 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: other people listen to? Who? Um? You know is at 716 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: the head of the table, who is like silently moving 717 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: and shifting the room even um if there aren't the 718 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: loudest talking in the room, right, Um. And it doesn't 719 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 1: have to be within your organization. You can have sponsors 720 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 1: outside of your organization. Who is in the you know, 721 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: monthly regional newsletter or who you know like these kinds 722 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 1: of things. It doesn't have to be someone just in 723 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 1: your organization. It can be someone without but a sponsor 724 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: it's absolutely needed to signal boost you. And then finally, UM, 725 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: we have accomplices. So these are our colleagues who are 726 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 1: in the trenches with us. Typically they're within your organization, 727 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 1: but they don't have to be. And this is one 728 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: that I think a lot of people take for granted, right, 729 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: Everybody looking for somebody to put them on UM, like 730 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 1: in the mentorship of space, right, Like you, I tell 731 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: people you definitely need to have a mentor, but you 732 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 1: also need accomplices. You need people who are in the 733 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 1: trenches with you. You need somebody who can be like, hey, 734 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: did you get that email? Hey did you hear that? Oh? 735 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: You know, I would be careful around them because this 736 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:56,839 Speaker 1: or that, and you don't have to take their word 737 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 1: as goal. But too often, I think somewhere along the line, 738 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,800 Speaker 1: but women got the notice like, don't say none of 739 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 1: these people that work, keep your head down, work hard. 740 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 1: Don't say now, don't build a relationships that's lame, Like 741 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: that's not that's not working anymore, that's not that's an 742 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 1: old strategy. And I want everybody to dad that, like, 743 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: agree with me now that you will dad that, agree 744 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: with me that you will ask for help, Agree with 745 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 1: me that you will connect with accomplices, with sponsors, with 746 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: mentors who can help you. Putting your head down and 747 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 1: doing the work is a kind of strategic tactic, is 748 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: not a long term strategy. So I want you to 749 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 1: lift your head up and raise your hand and ask 750 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 1: for some help. Yes, yes, um. I feel like entrepreneurship 751 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 1: is sexy now and it gets a lot of gets 752 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: a lot of attention when it comes to conversations surrounding legacy. 753 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 1: Why do you think this conversation is not common for 754 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: professional women or they not included in the conversation. Yeah, 755 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 1: you know, I think that's a good question. I feel 756 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 1: like I don't have to be honest and transparent here. 757 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: The whole legacy thing for me, it's kind of like, 758 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess like I'm not I don't know 759 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 1: like I think, And I think it's because, um, I 760 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 1: don't have any children, and I don't really believe in children. 761 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,359 Speaker 1: It's like a concept. So the whole legacy thing for me, 762 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 1: I just thought was a reserved for parents. I just 763 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: kind of felt like, oh, legacy, that's for people who 764 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: try to have some kids, and I trying to have 765 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 1: a geys, So I just figured it wasn't for me. 766 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,359 Speaker 1: But the thing that I'm starting to realize is that 767 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 1: legacy is about um impact. Legacy is about impact, and 768 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,359 Speaker 1: whether or not I have children or not, I want 769 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 1: to leave a lasting impression on my industry, on my 770 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 1: functional area, all the people that I served on my organization, 771 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 1: and that is legacy, Right, Those standard operating procedures that 772 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: you're building, those could be at your organization for five, ten, 773 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 1: fifteen years and still be valued. Right. The great work 774 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 1: that you're doing supervising and managing and leading your team 775 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: can leave a legacy of how people should be treated 776 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 1: in this organization. I have colleagues that I've worked with 777 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,760 Speaker 1: who have since retired, who I have one in particular 778 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: name is Peggy. Peggy taught me the power of silence. 779 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 1: Right Like through Peggy, I have learned how to get 780 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 1: what I want by being real flat And I teach 781 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,320 Speaker 1: you women how to manage up and how to navigate 782 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 1: and how to advocate for themselves. But I also teach 783 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,800 Speaker 1: them how to use silence to their advantage because Peggy 784 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 1: taught it to me. She left the legacy and she 785 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 1: did that at work, right And so I think that, 786 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 1: like I think that we're left out of the conversation 787 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 1: because everybody is talking about an LLC and using a 788 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 1: p P P loan to like, I don't know, own 789 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,840 Speaker 1: a business or building or whatever. But I but I 790 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 1: think there's also an opportunity for nine to five rs 791 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 1: working women to build a legacy by leaving something for 792 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 1: your industry, your organization, and the people you serve to 793 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 1: leverage long after you're gone. Mm hmm. And that's not 794 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 1: at least I love this topic. So I think this 795 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 1: is a great way to end this show. What are 796 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 1: some lives that's been told when it comes to advancing 797 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 1: in your career. Oh gosh, that you know, right, this 798 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 1: is one of my favorite astitudes to UM. I would 799 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: say some of the big slides is that you needed 800 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 1: another degree to do it, right, Like, the only way 801 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 1: that you can advance your career is if you get 802 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: another degree. I think the another one that's often told 803 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:15,720 Speaker 1: is that mhm um your transfer almost like you can't 804 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: transfer your skills from one industry to another. Like, if 805 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 1: you have a degree in this field, you can't use 806 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 1: it in this field. And if you have um this 807 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: skill set, it's not going to transfer over here, right like, 808 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: women Like the world of work is much more fluid 809 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,320 Speaker 1: than people realize. Um. And I think a lot of 810 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: women get stuck, are nervous or scared um because someone 811 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,799 Speaker 1: told them that they couldn't leverage their existing skills to 812 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,359 Speaker 1: get what they want. UM. My least favorite one, particularly 813 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 1: right now is like there are no jobs out there 814 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 1: or you know that kind of thing. Like, so, first 815 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 1: of all, the why the reason why this makes me 816 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 1: most angry, UM is because we're only looking for one job, right, 817 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,399 Speaker 1: Like I'm not typically working with women who are looking 818 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: for a whole like two or three jobs. They're just 819 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 1: looking for one job. So the whole there are no 820 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,840 Speaker 1: job is out there, we're only looking for one. And honestly, 821 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,799 Speaker 1: in my program, I time, I'm ment sees all the time. 822 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 1: When you go through my program, particularly the Accelerator, you're 823 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 1: likely only to apply to two or three jobs, and 824 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 1: you're gonna get two to three interviews, two to three offers, 825 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,240 Speaker 1: and you're gonna choose one of the jobs, right because 826 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 1: it works like we don't need to apply for a 827 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 1: hundred jobs. It's strategic. We're not we're not casting a 828 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 1: wide net. And that's I think the last moment I'll 829 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 1: share because I get that you need to cast a 830 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,839 Speaker 1: wide net, but you need to put yourself out there. 831 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 1: Then you need to network and and see who's who 832 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 1: it's smooth and do all of this stuff that is 833 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:38,919 Speaker 1: not strategic. That's exhausting, it's mentally exhausting. Let me teach 834 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,319 Speaker 1: you a better way, a more strategic way, a more 835 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 1: targeted way. We're in ninety ninety minutes a week. You 836 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 1: can find the securely kind of jobs you're looking for, 837 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 1: get at minimum ten dollars salary, increase and move on. 838 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,359 Speaker 1: Mm hmm and I think one of my favorite ones 839 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,799 Speaker 1: was wait until years to move on, And you was like, 840 00:41:55,840 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 1: misery loves companies. Yeah, like there's there's like I I 841 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 1: hear a lot around like, um, you know, well, I 842 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: gotta wait. I gotta wait till this time and I 843 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,320 Speaker 1: gotta waita um and and I just had dinner with 844 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 1: a friend last night or whatever, and she's like, oh 845 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,760 Speaker 1: my god, in your currents after like five years, that's wild. 846 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:14,919 Speaker 1: Or I was like, I know, right, because my friends 847 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,839 Speaker 1: used to jump that I couldn't keep a job. Every 848 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 1: eighteen months money, I will be out. I was bored. 849 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,439 Speaker 1: If I was bored, then I was out. I'm gonna 850 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 1: stay in the job she doesn't want to be in. 851 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,359 Speaker 1: That's just that's like my literal life motto. And my 852 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 1: friends would like, oh, girl, that's gonna be bad for 853 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 1: your career, and nobody's gonna want to hire you. I 854 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,760 Speaker 1: have been hired every time I wanted to be hired. 855 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,799 Speaker 1: He know, I I'm missing out nothing, Okay, I'm listening 856 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 1: out on the thing. And so too often we think, well, 857 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 1: we gotta wait to the point of desperation. We gotta 858 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 1: wait until things are falling apart. I gotta stay here 859 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 1: two years because I ain't nobody. That's just not true. 860 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 1: It's not true. It's not true for me, it's been 861 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 1: not it's not been true for my mentees. At the 862 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 1: moment when you're strategic, at the moment that you want 863 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,359 Speaker 1: to secure a new role, you will because you're gonna 864 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 1: be well positioned. You're gonna be positioned as a top candidate. 865 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,360 Speaker 1: You're gonna know what problems you're gonna you can solve. 866 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 1: You're gonna work to identify employers who are have those problems, 867 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,799 Speaker 1: and then you're going to get the offer. And after negotiation, um, 868 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,279 Speaker 1: you're going to accept an offer that's aligned with your 869 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 1: skill sets. Period. And so I think ahead ahead. I 870 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 1: was just gonna say, there are just so many myths 871 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 1: out there, and you know, I could spend my entire 872 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:28,319 Speaker 1: career in my business like dispelling myths. But I can 873 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:29,880 Speaker 1: show you better than I can. You know, I can 874 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,440 Speaker 1: show you better. I can tell you. That's what I 875 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,880 Speaker 1: was telling, Like, tell my mentees like I do. I 876 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,880 Speaker 1: do a lot of myth busting and I do some 877 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 1: of those kind of videos and they're very popular, like 878 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 1: people love them. But the you know, the eighteen thousand 879 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,760 Speaker 1: dollars salary increased. Simone got the twenty dollars salary increased, 880 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,359 Speaker 1: Janine got the thirty dollars salary increased, Quianna got the 881 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,239 Speaker 1: freedom that Tahita now has in her career development. Like, 882 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 1: there's just so many results from my mentees, UM, and 883 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,400 Speaker 1: they really speak for themselves. So I always tell my mentees, 884 00:43:58,400 --> 00:43:59,799 Speaker 1: I can show you better than I can tell you, 885 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 1: And that's at least. I'm just curious, would you work 886 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 1: with entrepreneurs um? No, No, I don't. I don't really 887 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,440 Speaker 1: work with with entrepreneurs UM. I just think that that 888 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,440 Speaker 1: would be a little out of integrity for me. I 889 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,920 Speaker 1: I have UM, I have, I have, I have like 890 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,400 Speaker 1: to mentees who are entrepreneurs UM, and I do. I mean, 891 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 1: I've built my business UM, a very successful business over 892 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,840 Speaker 1: the last year and a half, something I'm very proud 893 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 1: of UM. But I think what's true is that I've 894 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,879 Speaker 1: learned a lot. I have several business coaches, like three 895 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,280 Speaker 1: of them, UM, and I've learned a lot from them. 896 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,839 Speaker 1: And so it would be operating a little bit out 897 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 1: of integrity to be like, oh, like I also mentor 898 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 1: you know women in business, maybe in the future. Maybe 899 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 1: once I, um, I'm able to like grow my career 900 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 1: development business um into um, you know, like a seven 901 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 1: figure business. Right Like at that point, maybe I am, 902 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,360 Speaker 1: you know, once it's a million dollars into T I 903 00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,319 Speaker 1: might be, but like, okay, well I built a million 904 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 1: dollars into team. Get that point, I'll be, you know, 905 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,399 Speaker 1: willing to talk to other people about the strategies. But 906 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,080 Speaker 1: I think that right now I am really focused on 907 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:12,399 Speaker 1: women and career. Well. I think this was an amazing conversation. 908 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you definitely inspire me, and I mean I 909 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,879 Speaker 1: definitely want to be on entreprene while I'm transitioning into entrepreneurship. 910 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 1: So that's the reason why I asked you, because I 911 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 1: just love your energy. I'll watch your follow you and everything. 912 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,920 Speaker 1: So I really appreciate you taking the time because I 913 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,319 Speaker 1: can only imagine how busy you are. And to my listeners, 914 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,319 Speaker 1: if you want to connect with my guests, please make 915 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 1: sure to email me a hello at the PhD podcast 916 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,400 Speaker 1: dot com. And I really appreciate I think this was amazing. 917 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,880 Speaker 1: I thought that this episode was super informative because a 918 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 1: lot of women don't want to be entrepreneurs and they 919 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 1: do want to excel in their career. So I really 920 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 1: appreciate you taking time on informant professional women how to 921 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 1: level up professionally. Yeah, of course. And you know, one 922 00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 1: of the things that I do I have started to 923 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,800 Speaker 1: talk a lot about is inpreneurship. So I mean, I obviously, 924 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,840 Speaker 1: UM work full time and I also run a business 925 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,920 Speaker 1: full time, so I am an entrepreneur. And so I 926 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,880 Speaker 1: think that one of the things that I've learned UM 927 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,960 Speaker 1: is that like people that get to either or they 928 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 1: think it's this or that, and there's a lot of 929 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 1: adversary towards the world of work from entrepreneurs, and there's 930 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:23,359 Speaker 1: a lot of like like envy and um and adversarial 931 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,799 Speaker 1: attitudes from the women who work to entrepreneurs. It's like 932 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,120 Speaker 1: neither like it's like we can't coexist. But I really 933 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,799 Speaker 1: like to tell women that, like, one, you can be 934 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 1: an entrepreneur, so you can be entrepreneurial in your work, 935 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 1: and also you can do both. I do both with ease. 936 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,120 Speaker 1: I'm not burnt out, I'm not exhausted. UM, I do 937 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,880 Speaker 1: both with ease. And when I was early in my business, 938 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 1: before it was really making any money, I was able 939 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,440 Speaker 1: to leverage my career and the great money I was 940 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 1: making in my career to fund my business. Now my 941 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 1: business makes enough money to stand on itself. But I 942 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 1: think too often people are like, oh, I want to 943 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 1: be an entrepreneur. Do you like? But girl, you don't 944 00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,879 Speaker 1: have no money, you don't have no CA, you don't 945 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,600 Speaker 1: like what you're working with, right, And so I really 946 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 1: want to encourage women to also think about the fact that, 947 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,880 Speaker 1: like there's an opportunity, there's a difference between entrepreneurship and unemployed. 948 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,200 Speaker 1: So just I want to make sure that you make 949 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 1: a successful transition um because I think the two Often 950 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:19,239 Speaker 1: women aren't thoughtful about that. So there you have it. 951 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 1: For more information on this episode, please make sure to 952 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:26,040 Speaker 1: email me at hello at the PhD podcast dot com. 953 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,399 Speaker 1: And until next time, everyone Later,