Speaker 1: Still the Place with Laura Layton, Courtney Thorn Smith.
Speaker 2: And Daphne's Aniga and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Hi guys, hey you guys.
Speaker 3: I love seeing the Christmas trees in your little squares.
Speaker 1: It's my it's my little Charlie Brown tree. It's such
Speaker 1: a nice tree.
Speaker 3: Cord, isn't it should put lights on my is behind me.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: It's such a fun season.
Speaker 3: I did bring Georgie's Christmas hat.
Speaker 1: Oh good, Georgie, you're beautiful in your hat. Nice and
Speaker 1: what's the name of the dog and Grinch Max but
Speaker 1: he's so nice.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: Well, we're so excited because we've got this Christmas episode
Speaker 1: to do today. It's so fun and season, you know.
Speaker 2: So cool to watch the Christmas our people do Christmas.
Speaker 3: It is so much fun. But I got to say,
Speaker 3: and we'll get to it. My takeaway was, Daphne, you
Speaker 3: and Grant have smoke in chemistry, Like I was like,
Speaker 3: whoa oh just twice. The second time, I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: now I'm really heated up that you guys were smoking.
Speaker 1: Very cute, like finding little stuff that wasn't on the page,
Speaker 1: like just for that relationship between the two of you.
Speaker 1: I noticed the same thing, like just really cute, dynamic
Speaker 1: and stuff that was not written. That was chemistry and
Speaker 1: that's what you guys like, just so loose.
Speaker 2: There was really there was something really loose working with him,
Speaker 2: and just like you know that we got together and
Speaker 2: on the weekends and rode bikes and we just really
Speaker 2: got to know each other.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know you guys did. I'm sure that was
Speaker 3: fun for you. I'm sure I wouldn't it anyway, so
Speaker 3: I know not. But what I saw was how much
Speaker 3: softer he is with jo, Like it brings out this
Speaker 3: really sweet, sweet side of him, which was so much
Speaker 3: fun to see. Yes, right, should we get to it?
Speaker 1: I yeah, this was episode eighteen in season one and
Speaker 1: a Melrose Trees Christmas.
Speaker 3: I have to say, one episode away.
Speaker 2: From more going on.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, that's fun. But this Christmas episode I think
Speaker 1: was a really this was a great episode that I
Speaker 1: think it is worth watching twice. So anyway, and.
Speaker 2: This episode, if I could just say, I know, everyone
Speaker 2: had their own stuff and there was some heavy stuff
Speaker 2: going on, but you can really see why the audience
Speaker 2: could relate with their own friends and.
Speaker 1: Really coming together with you know, just.
Speaker 2: All the Christmas themes alone, like whatever everyone's going through
Speaker 2: to come together, we really got to see in this episode.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they did. They really used a lot of themes.
Speaker 1: And there was you know, there was bittersweet, there was sad,
Speaker 1: there was upbeat. There was just cute and all so
Speaker 1: pretty and Christmas seed. So here we go Seeing one
Speaker 1: opens on an exterior Christmas tree farm. Joe and jak
Speaker 1: are looking for a Christmas tree, and Joe's sort of
Speaker 1: trying to talk him out of it, saying, you know,
Speaker 1: this is dumb, It's just another excuse to throw away money.
Speaker 1: But Jake's no, you know, I grew up with an
Speaker 1: alcoholic mother who told me that Santa didn't visit poor people.
Speaker 1: I'm getting a tree and yeah, super harsh. But he's like, no,
Speaker 1: I don't tell me, don't talk me out of this.
Speaker 1: I'm getting a tree. And then he picks out the
Speaker 1: tallest tree.
Speaker 2: He goes and you see, and Joe's Joe's look, I know,
Speaker 2: I'm like, does not belong in Rockefeller Center?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then he goes.
Speaker 3: And then he goes, should I get flocking? And you
Speaker 3: had the best line and DEFU went no. Yeah, it
Speaker 3: was just like no, Yeah, I love.
Speaker 2: And you know, I love the camera work in this episode,
Speaker 2: and it's Bethany Rooney just gonna gio love her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, such a grace. And I love my white sweater. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll let you keep going, but I know you.
Speaker 3: Were in white. I noticed that too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that long, big, oversized sweater.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then back in Jake's apartment, this giant Christmas
Speaker 1: tree is so tall it's bending at the top because
Speaker 1: it's touching the ceiling. And there's this really great ceiling
Speaker 1: POV where the you know, the camera's up top and
Speaker 1: looking down, way way down on Jake and Joe. Great.
Speaker 1: Jake is excited to show Joe this remote control car
Speaker 1: that he's purchased and he's going to give it to
Speaker 1: his son David for Christmas, and Joe is sort of wondering, well,
Speaker 1: who are you going to say it's from, because you're
Speaker 1: not dad, and he says, well, I'll say it's from
Speaker 1: Santa Claus, and Joe mentions, well, I guess Santa does exist,
Speaker 1: but only for very lucky children. And this is one
Speaker 1: of those moments where I think she's seeing Jake is like,
Speaker 1: what a warm heart he has because he's so excited
Speaker 1: and he's so lovely about wanting to give this gift
Speaker 1: to David. They share this very intimate look and just
Speaker 1: sort of decide to break that moment.
Speaker 3: And myself and the rest of the audience is saying cancer,
Speaker 3: just Giitzer, because it's like the electricity is just crackling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, really sweet and soft and like immediate chemistry, love us, immediate.
Speaker 1: Then we cut to Alice and who's in a hospital bed.
Speaker 1: She's waiting to go in for her procedure, and Billy
Speaker 1: is standing at her bedside, and Allison confides to him
Speaker 1: that she's kind of nervous and now that she is thinking,
Speaker 1: you know, there's a possibility she might not be able
Speaker 1: to have kids, she's realizing she really does want to
Speaker 1: be able to someday. And he says, well, we'll cross
Speaker 1: that bridge when we get to it, and everybody, including Alison,
Speaker 1: notices what he says and how he says it. She says,
Speaker 1: real class yes, and he's kind of sheepish because he
Speaker 1: realizes what he said, and he clarifies, Oh, I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to I'm just trying to be there for you,
Speaker 1: you know, I just want to be by your side
Speaker 1: and help you through this and she says, well, you're
Speaker 1: doing a great job and this is especially tough time,
Speaker 1: you know, especially at Christmas and in walks Doctor Michael
Speaker 1: Mancini to try it.
Speaker 3: I just want to say quickly, because it's like the couples.
Speaker 3: We go from super sexy with Jake and Joe and
Speaker 3: then sweet, sweet sweet with Billy and Allison. It's like
Speaker 3: something for everyone, Like everyone's like something for everyone in
Speaker 3: the first five minutes.
Speaker 1: Well, the chemistry is not lacking in this one either.
Speaker 3: It's just it's just right.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm I'm the audience member here and
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for both of these couples. I am just
Speaker 1: saying I'm they're going yes and yes.
Speaker 2: But I love how they are different tones and because
Speaker 2: yours are so caring you're in the hospital and that
Speaker 2: feels like real and solid, and our seems like new
Speaker 2: and crackly.
Speaker 1: But also they're I love the difference. At the Billy
Speaker 1: and Allison, they're feeling back, they're trying to just remain friends,
Speaker 1: and so they're like just having this sweet friendship when
Speaker 1: we're all going, wait, there's so much more. And then
Speaker 1: Jake and Joe are like Bam, we're doing this because
Speaker 1: this is obvious so cute. So Michael checks on her
Speaker 1: and says, you're going to be fine. And oh, by
Speaker 1: the way, Jeane is sending her love from Chicago, where
Speaker 1: she's spending Christmas with her parents. I noticed that they
Speaker 1: didn't mention that she's spending Christmas with her sister, because
Speaker 1: at this point I think Sydney doesn't exist.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well, I was wondering where she's not in
Speaker 3: this episode. So she must remember when that she and
Speaker 3: Rob got married right before we started. Maybe this is
Speaker 3: what you got to stick.
Speaker 2: Oh maybe why they wrote her out of it because
Speaker 2: there was no reason for it.
Speaker 3: We should ask her she might have accompli as her
Speaker 3: I wonder members because she just wasn't normally that. I've
Speaker 3: a scene where she says, I'm visiting my family, but
Speaker 3: he was in charge of the exposition.
Speaker 1: But it gives Michael a very good opportunity to have
Speaker 1: his episode, which unfolds later and Allison. He leaves, and
Speaker 1: Alison tells Billy again and once they're alone, that she
Speaker 1: is scared, and Billy again reassures her that everything is
Speaker 1: going to be okay. So we cut to Ronda's aerobics class.
Speaker 1: She's teaching a step class. She's wearing a Santa hat.
Speaker 1: It's cute and festive, and she's so energetic and adorable.
Speaker 1: And she then catches a glimpse of Terence watching her teach.
Speaker 1: She's checking her out from the back of the class.
Speaker 1: He's in a suit, and Ronda is surprised, gets her
Speaker 1: class covered by another person to step in and teach,
Speaker 1: and she says, what are you doing? We were supposed
Speaker 1: to have a date on it tonight and he tells her
Speaker 1: he's going to have to cancel that date, and she's
Speaker 1: disappointed because she's leaving tomorrow for Christmas. He says, but
Speaker 1: how about if you maybe change your plans and go
Speaker 1: with me to aspin Leen tickets that he's already purchased
Speaker 1: for the two of them to spend the holidays in Aspen,
Speaker 1: and Ronda's totally surprised, and she starts to worry out
Speaker 1: loud about how I tell my parents, and well, I
Speaker 1: don't have any ski clothes. I don't even know how
Speaker 1: to ski. He says, you don't have to decide.
Speaker 3: Think about it, a classic weptom of Aspen. Did you guys?
Speaker 3: That's when I was going to Aspen that well pretending scheme.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't pretend pretending.
Speaker 2: Do you remember when she visited us and she's like, oh,
Speaker 2: there's this one ski up and I just loved I
Speaker 2: don't know if she said she took it or she
Speaker 2: wanted to take it, but then we got to see
Speaker 2: it in this episode.
Speaker 3: So night was adorable.
Speaker 1: Purple one Piece. We go back to the hospital where
Speaker 1: Alison's being prepped for surgery. The doctor steps in to
Speaker 1: check on her and explains that she's been given some
Speaker 1: medicine that's going to make your sleepy, asks her to
Speaker 1: sing jingle bells as she falls asleep, and she gets through.
Speaker 3: And she gets through way more of jingle bells than
Speaker 3: you do. You know, I don't know you've ever had.
Speaker 3: They go come from ten, you go ten now whush
Speaker 3: like get yeah.
Speaker 1: Cinematically, they really want to draw that jingle bell, give
Speaker 1: me some more jingle.
Speaker 3: We're too young to have a kolonoscopy, so I didn't know,
Speaker 3: like it is not that long, but then I was,
Speaker 3: you know, I hadn't died and I had a klonospy yet.
Speaker 1: So out she goes, and then out in the hospital
Speaker 1: waiting room well, we've got Billy and Matt, Joe, Jake,
Speaker 1: and Rohnda enters too, and Billy is very impatient to
Speaker 1: hear anything since Allison should have been out of the
Speaker 1: surgery by now, but the hospital won't release any information
Speaker 1: because none of them are immediate family, they say, So
Speaker 1: he goes out to the nurses station to find out
Speaker 1: what's going on.
Speaker 3: And did you notice, daph that you and Grant were
Speaker 3: perfectly mirroring each other in the chairs?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, mirrors? That was so they were.
Speaker 1: They were sort of back to back with their feet
Speaker 1: up exactly. I didn't that was conscious the partnership, was it.
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I did notice that they're They're definitely bonding. Wasn't Matt
Speaker 2: and Ronda kind of grouped like in those group scenes
Speaker 2: the director will kind of group you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I noticed that paired off.
Speaker 3: It seems like a lot, I have to say, not
Speaker 3: to discount what Alison's going through, but it seems like
Speaker 3: a lot of people for a five ry.
Speaker 1: All of her friends are alarmed. When you heard enlarged uterists,
Speaker 1: you think, wow, that sounds large. So I think, you know,
Speaker 1: we better be there for Allison. And so they all
Speaker 1: show up for this but.
Speaker 3: Having had five words removed before, it was not It
Speaker 3: was not as big a deal.
Speaker 1: No one showed up.
Speaker 3: For you, No, I I think my husband did at
Speaker 3: the time, but you would have. I don't remember there
Speaker 3: have been quite as much excitement. I know for a
Speaker 3: fact you guys weren't there. Now I'm hurt.
Speaker 1: Well, you're on a motorcycle ride.
Speaker 3: I'm sure.
Speaker 1: I'm sure we were at a dinner party at someone else's.
Speaker 1: Looks good too, say.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: He goes up to the nurse and says, Hey, I'm
Speaker 1: Allison's brother. Can you can I go see he or
Speaker 1: now that she's out of surgery. Nurse calls his pluff
Speaker 1: and knows that he's not really her brother. But Michael
Speaker 1: walks up and assures Billy that not only is Alison fine,
Speaker 1: she will be able to have kids whenever she chooses,
Speaker 1: and he says, I can probably sneak in to see her.
Speaker 1: Come on, He delivers Billy to Allison's hospital room. Billy
Speaker 1: goes in alone and she's sleeping, and he very gently
Speaker 1: puts her blue cozy bathrobe over her and then wakes
Speaker 1: her up. Yeah, she groggily wakes up. Billy assures her
Speaker 1: that she wasn't dreaming that. She is indeed fine, The
Speaker 1: surgery went well and she can someday have children. And
Speaker 1: then the doctor walks in and he says, how's my
Speaker 1: new favorite patient doing.
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 3: Did anybody else think that they were setting something up
Speaker 3: between Alison and the doctor? She's a hand little doctor,
Speaker 3: I feel like is in No.
Speaker 1: I think we all sort of did like handsome doctor,
Speaker 1: and that's how he is calling her. So we did
Speaker 1: sort of wonder like, hey, Billy's girl, step away.
Speaker 3: Docs GoF man.
Speaker 1: Like this.
Speaker 2: It is funny how you kind of go there's a
Speaker 2: guest star that walks in and you're like, did we.
Speaker 3: Do a thing there? This is my doctor.
Speaker 1: I remember having something with this guy.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know. He was just a doctor.
Speaker 1: He's seen my enlarged uterus.
Speaker 3: My goodnessficient the largest uterus I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: My goodness.
Speaker 3: I don't like to brag about my large uterus, but
Speaker 3: you know whatever, see no, no, I do bring it
Speaker 3: up a lot.
Speaker 1: He tells Alison she could go home tomorrow that as
Speaker 1: long as she has someone to take care of her,
Speaker 1: and she thinks, well, maybe I shouldn't, but Billy jumps
Speaker 1: in and says he will be the one to take
Speaker 1: care of her. Then we go to their apartment where
Speaker 1: Allison and Billy are returning home from the hospital. Allison's
Speaker 1: walking very gingerly in and getting situated on the couch
Speaker 1: and she.
Speaker 3: Knows, really, I was very committed to the pain in
Speaker 3: this episode, Like I did not let that reality waiver
Speaker 3: for a second. Do you remember that every seat, Like
Speaker 3: I made a different choice.
Speaker 1: Just in case anyone forgot how traumatic an operation for
Speaker 1: an enlarged uterus would be. You were haven't needed to
Speaker 1: walk very gingerly? Isn't the place decorated? Billy has gotten
Speaker 1: a Christmas tree that wasn't there when she left, and
Speaker 1: he's all decorated, and he said his dad has also
Speaker 1: dropped off all these Christmas lights and ornaments, and Allison says,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not really into Christmas that much this year,
Speaker 1: and Billy's tucking her in and taking care of her
Speaker 1: and saying, oh, you will be, and he says, I'm
Speaker 1: going to go to the grocery store to get stuff
Speaker 1: for you. And as he's leaving, Joe is arriving. She's
Speaker 1: bringing magazines for Allison.
Speaker 2: In a great vest Who love that red vest that
Speaker 2: printed gorgeous best, I love the best.
Speaker 1: We're in back yet yet another flattering yeah, and it's
Speaker 1: another opportunity for Joe to say yes doctor Bill to Billy,
Speaker 1: right Bill, so that Alison needs rest. Yes, doctor Bill.
Speaker 3: I feel like there was a cut somewhere because, Jeff,
Speaker 3: you say, I just came to see if you were home.
Speaker 3: When I say thank you, I feel like you may
Speaker 3: have said something else. I'm way too grateful that you
Speaker 3: have to see if I was there.
Speaker 1: Well, you remember, you were just coming off your large
Speaker 1: uterous drugs, so maybe you were just say super high.
Speaker 3: Should we just stop it already? You guys have had
Speaker 3: Jeff me, I know you're jealous of my large uterus.
Speaker 3: I have to deal with that on your own.
Speaker 1: Jealous of something.
Speaker 2: But we'll get back to that in our little Melrose
Speaker 2: moment on Friday.
Speaker 1: Okay, not now. And Alison here tells Joe that Billity
Speaker 1: has been being so nice since this surgeon. She said,
Speaker 1: it's kind of starting to feel weird, but like kind
Speaker 1: of weird in a good way. Maybe she's smiling about
Speaker 1: that weirdness. So then we cut to the courtyard where
Speaker 1: Matt is going to run the department. This is where
Speaker 1: he finds her in her full ski suit, yes and
Speaker 1: including goggles, boots pulls an sees all on in her
Speaker 1: living room's purple and then she's fantastic And so Ronda
Speaker 1: tells Matt that Terrence has taking her shopping because she's
Speaker 1: clearly agreed to go to Aspin. But she's like wondering,
Speaker 1: is there some sort of catch? It's like this guy
Speaker 1: seems to be good, too good to be true. She
Speaker 1: asks Matt what he's doing for Christmas. He's just spending
Speaker 1: time with the kids at the halfway house. He says,
Speaker 1: not going to see his parents because he feels like
Speaker 1: they don't support him, even after he'd want his drop
Speaker 1: back after being fired.
Speaker 3: And I thought this was a little exposition, he said,
Speaker 3: after I lost my job.
Speaker 1: For being a we're being fired for being k Yeah,
Speaker 1: just in.
Speaker 3: Case you missed last episode, Yes.
Speaker 1: Bring you all up to speed when happened. Yeah. But
Speaker 1: they end that scene with a sweet hug, wishing each
Speaker 1: other Merry Christmas, and Matt tells her, I think you're
Speaker 1: onto something with this guy. I would like to call
Speaker 1: out Matt's outfit and his Yes, please do, I will.
Speaker 1: It was a V neck sweater with a white turtle
Speaker 1: neck underneath. So like a lot of turtle neck shows
Speaker 1: with the V neck people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was the nineties and it's winter and
Speaker 2: seventy degrees down from.
Speaker 1: The other what he had a bit of a mullet.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he did, totally did anyway, little sprite even
Speaker 2: the shirt, Yeah, this is even the shirt I want
Speaker 2: to call out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're still getting something.
Speaker 1: More holiday clothes to come. And so we cut that
Speaker 1: to the hospital where Michael and doctor Kimberly Shaw Kimberly's back.
Speaker 1: They're running down the hospital hallway to help a young
Speaker 1: gunshot victim who's arrived bloodied on a gurney, and the
Speaker 1: mother of this child wants to come into the operating room,
Speaker 1: and Michael tells her she can't, but he'll let her
Speaker 1: know as soon as they know anything. She needs to
Speaker 1: wait outside, and the mother pleads to Michael, please don't
Speaker 1: let God take my baby. She was so good.
Speaker 3: She oh she this killed me. Every parent's nightmare and shocking, right,
Speaker 3: because Melro's light fun, light fun. And then you know,
Speaker 3: we're worried about a fibroid. And then this kid comes
Speaker 3: into the gun show and that shocked me.
Speaker 1: We're back with Jake and Joe and Jake's apartment. They're
Speaker 1: adding tinsel to this giant Christmas tree and Jake is
Speaker 1: enjoying the tree, saying it smells like Christmas, and just says, wait,
Speaker 1: I got you something. She pulls out an angel old
Speaker 1: treetopper for Jake and he suggests that she classed.
Speaker 2: In case you guys didn't know that we were smoking
Speaker 2: hot together yet this one.
Speaker 1: Had Laura right. Well, this is one of the Courtney's
Speaker 1: Courtney's moments, like noticing that Jake was so sweet becaus like,
Speaker 1: why don't you put it on? He's so gentle and
Speaker 1: so loving, like this is so special and thank you.
Speaker 1: It's so soft for Jake, and and then but so
Speaker 1: she's climbing up this.
Speaker 3: Ladder and said, I'm afraid of heights, right, yeah.
Speaker 2: But you saw that girl taking photos of ladders like
Speaker 2: for episodes at a time.
Speaker 1: But he's behind her and and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: she gets a little flustered and she's like, I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna I'm just gonna put it here, and she try
Speaker 1: to jams it in the she's.
Speaker 2: Like half way up, but then there to catch her
Speaker 2: when she's slide down.
Speaker 1: She jams in the military. Yeah, it comes down from
Speaker 1: the ladder and they find themselves sort of like face
Speaker 1: to face and uh like, but they're interrupted.
Speaker 2: There's more to come, but I know a little bit
Speaker 2: in there.
Speaker 1: She does try to stop them and say, wait a minute.
Speaker 1: You know, people do things during the holidays and they
Speaker 1: don't normally do. Maybe they'll regret it, but they're interrupted.
Speaker 1: Here Bill knock, Hi Bill, door, Hi Bill, Hi Bill,
Speaker 1: Nice to see you. And this is my favorite.
Speaker 4: Billy is yeah, and he turns to like, yeah, it
Speaker 4: was the best delivery I went back in Remond So good,
Speaker 4: so good, And Billy tells you and Joey wants to
Speaker 4: get something nice for Allison, wanting advice, shows them this
Speaker 4: necklace that he bought for her and they're both impressed,
Speaker 4: but Joe's like, wait, is something going on between you two?
Speaker 1: He says, why do you think the necklace might imply something?
Speaker 1: And she says, well, well, you know, it's a really
Speaker 1: nice gift, so yeah, it might mean you're asking for something.
Speaker 1: Billy rolls his eyes and says, yeah, you would think that, right,
Speaker 1: and he says, well, what about you, Jake, what do
Speaker 1: you think do you think the necklace crosses the line
Speaker 1: between friendship and romance? And Jakes's not And it's a
Speaker 1: tough call, but Joe wants to clarify, Hey, is it
Speaker 1: eighteen carrot or twenty four?
Speaker 3: And by the way, what happened to fourteen carrot? Like
Speaker 3: a gold bar? Is it twenty four?
Speaker 2: Here at a gold Barde, New York Babe, there's yeah,
Speaker 2: working frames of reference eighteen or twenty four?
Speaker 1: And he says it's twenty four. Jose Z, Yep, you're
Speaker 1: crossing the line, my friends. Yes, you're asking for some.
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Speaker 1: And Billy says, you know, he just finds himself. He
Speaker 1: really wants to buy her nice things, especially since she
Speaker 1: became so kind of helpless and needed him, and things
Speaker 1: he can't afford. And Jake's like, hey, nothing wrong with that,
Speaker 1: good choice. Billy Bye.
Speaker 3: Doesn't like Billy? Does he like?
Speaker 2: Push him out the door?
Speaker 1: He starts, yeah. He starts to try to get him
Speaker 1: out the door, like all right, you good it enough
Speaker 1: time You're bye. We were busy, and uh so Billy's
Speaker 1: still trying to find himself, like, wait a minute, no,
Speaker 1: I don't have feelings for Alison. Okay, bye enough. Fie
Speaker 1: lends him out the door and another cute mom with
Speaker 1: Joe and Jake where.
Speaker 2: He turns back to her and he's like, okay, we're
Speaker 2: you know, and how you stay over there? So cute.
Speaker 1: We know that they both want to jump on it
Speaker 1: day there. Keep your hands to yourself, she says, so cute.
Speaker 1: So then back to Allison's apartment, She's crying on the couch, sobbing.
Speaker 3: Again, I didn't really know while you're putting. Remember how
Speaker 3: I remember doing a lot of crying scenes, being very
Speaker 3: nervous about them. But I'm sobbing. I think I'm not
Speaker 3: good at like quietly letting tears rolled out. I was sobbing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I think that's also what the scene called for.
Speaker 1: But like just to do that as an actor, like,
Speaker 1: if that's exhausting, you.
Speaker 3: Were working, it's exhausting hard. So Allison's crying, You're not
Speaker 3: to see how hard I was working. I was like,
Speaker 3: you were clearly working.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that it's you.
Speaker 3: I just were exhausted for you.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just impressed that you had all that
Speaker 1: kind to do and you kept it up and you
Speaker 1: were great. So Billy Watson's he's a crying and she
Speaker 1: explained she must have this post up depression that the
Speaker 1: doctor had sort.
Speaker 3: Of wonder about there it is y yeah, well, and
Speaker 3: I do remember this about these scenes, which is how
Speaker 3: frustrated I was, because it was always I would be
Speaker 3: sobbing and Billy would be like, are you okay? I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: and I'd be talking and sobbing, and I was like,
Speaker 3: this feels really unfair, like the division of paper doesn't uneven,
Speaker 3: and I'm crying and saying all the lines and he
Speaker 3: just goes, you have people, okay, blah blah blah black
Speaker 3: crack cracker bla.
Speaker 1: We'll get through this. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: He was adoring her that she's gonna have a great Christmas,
Speaker 1: and she says, well, you know, I don't even have
Speaker 1: money to buy gifts, and Billy's like like, sure, roommates,
Speaker 1: we don't need to exchange gifts.
Speaker 2: I just first know, me so mad that Joe was
Speaker 2: so blunt with Bill in the last scene and was
Speaker 2: like made him, you know, not want to give her
Speaker 2: this beautiful bracelet. And he's like.
Speaker 1: Oh, he's also trying to like walk that line because
Speaker 1: she's saying, you know, can we can we just like
Speaker 1: make maybe make a pact and He's like, sure, let's
Speaker 1: make a pact and we don't need to exchange gifts,
Speaker 1: and they shake hands. They shake hands on this pact
Speaker 1: and he's just trying to do the right thing. But
Speaker 1: it's you the scene ended with such a sweet look
Speaker 1: on his face. He's really not sure that he likes
Speaker 1: that outcome. No, he doesn't.
Speaker 3: I think it's crushed him basically.
Speaker 2: But you know, show ain't over.
Speaker 3: Let's keep going.
Speaker 1: So back at the hospital at night, Michael and doctor
Speaker 1: Kimberly Shaw and doctor Levin are out of surgery where
Speaker 1: they're discussing the young boy who was shot and sadly
Speaker 1: has not survived, and Michael, they're all very upset, so heavy,
Speaker 1: just the senselessness of the boy's death and it's Christmas Eve, especially,
Speaker 1: how on earth are these parents are going to be
Speaker 1: able to endure this news? And doctor Levin says that
Speaker 1: Michael needs to be the one to tell the parents
Speaker 1: that their son has died.
Speaker 2: Michael was not expecting that he was.
Speaker 1: He was not him to tell him the grown and
Speaker 1: doctor Shaw can really offers to go with Michael to
Speaker 1: deliver this news and be there for that, and doctor
Speaker 1: Levin stops her and says, nope, Michael needs to do
Speaker 1: this on his own. So he very carefully approaches the
Speaker 1: parents of the young boy. They're anxiously waiting for news,
Speaker 1: and he gently tells him that their son did not survive.
Speaker 1: He had traumatic injuries, and he's terribly sorry but they
Speaker 1: just could not save him. And the mother just dissolved
Speaker 1: into sacks. Chris was just so good and it's Christmas Eve,
Speaker 1: I mean, just all all awful.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So Michael then goes back to doctor Levin, who tells Michael, well,
Speaker 1: brace yourself because tomorrow is Christmas and at the hospital
Speaker 1: we have our own set of traditions. Christmas Day statistically
Speaker 1: holds the greatest number of murders, suicide and accidents, and
Speaker 1: he finishes with Merry Christmas. Doctor. So just dread very
Speaker 1: different look at Christmas.
Speaker 2: Happiness of the show. You know again, they wrote this
Speaker 2: and took it on and it's green it.
Speaker 1: And by contrast, yeah, exactly, because then the contrast as
Speaker 1: we go back to the courtyard and it's now Christmas
Speaker 1: morning and Billy is stringing Christmas lights on the balcony railing.
Speaker 1: When Joe opens her permit door to get her newspaper,
Speaker 1: beautiful blue robe, so very pretty blue silk robe, and
Speaker 1: Billy she like looks over.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just like, sorry, you can read it,
Speaker 2: but I'm just like, God, Joe, leave Bill alone.
Speaker 3: Such a nice guy.
Speaker 1: I wonder how long you call him Bill?
Speaker 2: How do you criticize the guy for putting up Christmas lights?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: But go ahead. She was very grinchy.
Speaker 3: He was.
Speaker 1: He was going Merry Christmas, Joe, And she's like, yes,
Speaker 1: say to your branch with Jake.
Speaker 3: A lot sooner, got some sexual tension building up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, And what are you doing? She says, I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to make the place look a little festive
Speaker 1: and just you know, it's weird to in one specific
Speaker 1: day to hang these twinkly lights and spread peace and
Speaker 1: goodwill towards all and anyway, they should have been up
Speaker 1: by now. And she goes back in.
Speaker 3: Her apartner also bahumbug, super.
Speaker 1: Brahamba grinchy, and Billy says, Merry Christmas?
Speaker 6: Do you do?
Speaker 2: He never says, and it's Billy Joe, No.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: He does not correct her.
Speaker 4: He's like yeah.
Speaker 1: So then we're back to Billy and Allison's apartment. Billy
Speaker 1: is knocking on Allison's bedroom door, where she's recovering a bed,
Speaker 1: wishes her Merry Christmas and he's brought her some Christmas
Speaker 1: movies on VCR cassette tapes, Oh My God, Miracle on
Speaker 1: thirty four Stremmer, It's a Wonderful Life, all the classics.
Speaker 1: Allison says, well, don't you want to watch him with me?
Speaker 1: And he says, well, I have to go to work,
Speaker 1: got to drive the cab. Airport runs all that. They
Speaker 1: wish each other Merry Christmas, and he leaves to go
Speaker 1: to work, and we're sad.
Speaker 2: I know he's trying to navigate it all right, like
Speaker 2: he wants to take care of you, but now he's
Speaker 2: having feelings.
Speaker 1: So I don't give her the bracelet.
Speaker 2: We're just friends.
Speaker 1: But it's Christmas. I mean, there's a lot of in earth,
Speaker 1: and he's got to work. I mean the fact is,
Speaker 1: you know, guy's got to work, and somebody's got to
Speaker 1: drive the cab on Christmas. It just happens to be
Speaker 1: the guy who doesn't have a family and whatever, young guy,
Speaker 1: new guy. So off he goes. And then we're back
Speaker 1: to the hospital. They were in the staff room and
Speaker 1: Michael is clearly distracted and dwelling on everything he's just
Speaker 1: dealt with, and Kimberly comes in. She's very upbeat, asks
Speaker 1: Michael if he'll join her for a cup of eggnog
Speaker 1: at the Christmas party that's happening in the lobby, and
Speaker 1: he says, nope, I'm not really feeling it, and that
Speaker 1: woman who lost her child is never going to be
Speaker 1: able to not think of this on Christmas, and I
Speaker 1: don't know that I will either. So Kimberly sambers a
Speaker 1: little bit, and she says, well, you know, losing the
Speaker 1: boy was not your fault, Michael, and you did everything
Speaker 1: you could. But he says that he used to believe
Speaker 1: nothing bad could happen on Christmas, and he used to
Speaker 1: believe he had a special relationship with God, which might
Speaker 1: have been what made him want to become a doctor,
Speaker 1: but now he realizes that there's no God involved, it's
Speaker 1: just medicine. And Kimberly tells him don't dwell on the
Speaker 1: ones you lose. You have to think about the ones
Speaker 1: you save at which time.
Speaker 3: Which is are really good surprisingly deep for this scene
Speaker 3: when you think, yeah, how many doctors think I'll be
Speaker 3: able to heal people? And then they find out they
Speaker 3: can't heal everybody. How terrifying it must be. Yeah, go
Speaker 3: to work knowing that that's it's literally life or death,
Speaker 3: which is obvious, I know, but it struck me in
Speaker 3: this scene.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but for him to be acknowledging, hey, there's you
Speaker 1: know that his feeling right now is just like so devastated.
Speaker 1: He's like, there's no God here, this is just medicine
Speaker 1: and yeah, like I've grown, you know.
Speaker 3: There's no God and I'm not Goda, which I can't.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So his pageock goes off and he says
Speaker 1: to her, well back to the wars and now he
Speaker 1: goes So back in Billy and Allison's apartment, Matt is there.
Speaker 1: She is now sitting up at the kitchen table, but
Speaker 1: she's feeling potatoes. Matt's prepping a big I love this scene.
Speaker 1: I loved I thought it was hilarious.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 1: There's this Christmas stuff everywhere.
Speaker 2: I love that Matt's got his little cooking towel and
Speaker 2: you sitting there with that turkey. I just there's something
Speaker 2: about these group stuff and making the food, and I
Speaker 2: just love how the sets and the props so just
Speaker 2: they fill it all out, you know, you really feel again,
Speaker 2: I can see how the audience wanted to be there.
Speaker 2: They wanted to live in Melrose Place.
Speaker 1: Yeah, things like this. It's not the other stuff.
Speaker 2: It seems like this that really enhanced that.
Speaker 3: It was you guys are well And I'm super happy.
Speaker 3: First of all, super in pain, keep that very committed
Speaker 3: to the how I felt it. But also I'm just
Speaker 3: happy because I used to do a scene with Doug,
Speaker 3: So that's my that was so my happy place.
Speaker 1: Do you remember shooting the scene? Do you remember that particular?
Speaker 3: No, but I can myself. I know how I felt
Speaker 3: when I got to work with Doug was so much
Speaker 3: fun and I was just like super happy. The same
Speaker 3: thing in scenes with you, daf Like, I can see
Speaker 3: that it's genuinely we're genuinely happy to be playing together.
Speaker 3: And I think that's what reads.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're so funny. You say you I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna stuff it, Yeah, I mean, yeah, funny. They're talking
Speaker 1: about their massive cooking list. They're making this turkey that
Speaker 1: she's peeling the potatoes. There, there's gonna be a pumpkin soup,
Speaker 1: fle homemade rules from scratch, Homade, Cranberry sauce everything else.
Speaker 2: For his mother, like Martha Stewart, it sounds like.
Speaker 1: We have to make we have to make the cranberry
Speaker 1: sauce from the can. My mother would never have done
Speaker 1: this stuff from the Can's Matt, who's here making it,
Speaker 1: And he's like, all right, well, then maybe we'll just
Speaker 1: have to not make the homemade pie crust from scratch.
Speaker 1: But it's them that, like the both of them realized,
Speaker 1: she's how did our mothers do that?
Speaker 2: I mean, And by the way, Alison's sitting there because
Speaker 2: of the you know, the fibroids and all that, and
Speaker 2: you don't want to say exactly help it. I don't
Speaker 2: want to say it. I want to just go fibroid
Speaker 2: and that's that. Uh. But I just feel like she's
Speaker 2: not even gonna, you know, to pin that much.
Speaker 1: She's unable.
Speaker 3: Well it's hard because she can only get so close
Speaker 3: to the table because of the huge uterus. Well this
Speaker 3: is what.
Speaker 1: This is why if you don't say it, daf Courtney's
Speaker 1: going to come on, kids, this is why. Also he's saying, Okay,
Speaker 1: while you're sitting there, you stuff it. You can do
Speaker 1: this is something you can do. I'll do everything else
Speaker 1: I mean he's gonna he's gonna run into his apartment
Speaker 1: and start the supple a that he's going to come
Speaker 1: back and he'll load the bird when she's done stuffing it.
Speaker 1: So like he gives her tasks that she can do
Speaker 1: for pre seated position.
Speaker 3: One quick question in the beginning, He's going, so it
Speaker 3: takes this long to cook. I'm like, are you guys
Speaker 3: just looking that up now? Like couldn't you have checked
Speaker 3: me yesterday? Like didn't your mom step five in the
Speaker 3: morning to put the burden? That's what I remember, Yeah,
Speaker 3: well engineer it.
Speaker 2: My first thought was, and I'm don't really cook that much,
Speaker 2: but it was like they're nowhere near They're not going
Speaker 2: to be eating until nowhere at midnight, right, is that right?
Speaker 2: Like everything's just getting started, and now they got to
Speaker 2: do homemade cranberry and now they got.
Speaker 1: To take the homemade stuff at all. Are not going
Speaker 1: to be ready? And I do cook, and I know
Speaker 1: Courtney cooks too. This is none of this is going
Speaker 1: to happen on time. If you're going to make it
Speaker 1: all home made in.
Speaker 3: Your very Sauce should be done, yes, yeah, bread should
Speaker 3: be crescent rolls.
Speaker 1: The turkey should be stuffed. Yes, everything should be prepped yep,
Speaker 1: the crust, yep, everything. So anyway we can see that's
Speaker 1: not gonna happen. But we we go back to Joe
Speaker 1: knocking on Jake's door and she's holding a wrapped Chriss gift,
Speaker 1: telling Jake that it's saw you know, just something to
Speaker 1: stick under that monster tree. And Jake smiles, inviting her
Speaker 1: into the apartment so we can give her her gift,
Speaker 1: but she says, nope, I'm now, I'll pick it up later,
Speaker 1: and she turns to leave. He stops her and says, hey,
Speaker 1: what what why? You don't need to run, And Joe says,
Speaker 1: I feel like spending Christmas alone. I didn't travel three
Speaker 1: thousand miles to leave one controlling man just to fall
Speaker 1: into the arms of another one.
Speaker 3: And I was so glad that you had that line
Speaker 3: because I was thinking, why are you not? Like we've
Speaker 3: seen the kiss, why are you not? And I feel
Speaker 3: like it's kind of that that, like you kind of
Speaker 3: went back and forth and back and forth and find
Speaker 3: we know why. Yeah, well that's why she's resisting because
Speaker 3: the audience myself included her going what why would you
Speaker 3: stop that kiss?
Speaker 1: You're right, it did offer necessary exces.
Speaker 2: It's another crumb. She left a you know, controlling man,
Speaker 2: and she's not going to be controlled.
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's all starting.
Speaker 2: To explain why she's been so like uptight and mean,
Speaker 2: especially to.
Speaker 1: And she doesn't want to rush into it. She just
Speaker 1: got here. But he encourages her to come in, saying
Speaker 1: he makes kill her eggnog and he has a copy
Speaker 1: of Elvis Sings Christmas that he hasn't played for ten years.
Speaker 1: Come on, and she reluctantly agrees to stay, saying, well,
Speaker 1: I hate eggnog, but I'm a sucker for Elvis.
Speaker 2: So I love her boundaries court and I love how
Speaker 2: strong they are, don't you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, really aggressive. It's like an iron wall.
Speaker 2: Literally ten seconds later with the mention of Elvis.
Speaker 1: Oh, did you say?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 5: All right, okay, Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want
Speaker 5: to know are you as Charlotte. In nineteen ninety seven,
Speaker 5: my life was forever changed when I took on the
Speaker 5: role of Charlotte Yorke on a new HBO show called.
Speaker 6: Sex and the City.
Speaker 5: As we watched Carrie, Samantha, Miranda, and Charlotte navigate relationships
Speaker 5: in new York City. The show helped push once unacceptable
Speaker 5: conversation topics out of the shadows and altered the narrative
Speaker 5: around women and sex. We all saw ourselves in them
Speaker 5: as they searched for fulfillment in life, sex and friendships.
Speaker 6: Now I want to connect with you and.
Speaker 5: Share untold stories and all the behind the scenes together
Speaker 5: with special guests.
Speaker 6: What will begin with sex and the City.
Speaker 5: Will evolve into talks about themes that are still so
Speaker 5: relevant today. Are You a Charlotte is a much more
Speaker 5: than just rewatching our beloved show. It brings the past
Speaker 5: and the present together as we talk with heart, humor,
Speaker 5: and of course some optimism. Listen to Are You a
Speaker 5: Charlotte on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you.
Speaker 6: Get your podcasts.
Speaker 1: So back at the hospital in the hallway at night,
Speaker 1: there's a pregnant woman very much in labor, rolling into
Speaker 1: the hospital and a gurneyon and very serious labor. Michael's
Speaker 1: hurrying alongside, and the woman's husband saying that her water broke.
Speaker 1: They were at Christmas dinner, but their obi is in Hawaii.
Speaker 1: Nobody to deliver this baby. Kimberly rushes in, saying and Michael,
Speaker 1: the chief resident, is in surgery. We're gonna have to
Speaker 1: wait until he's out to deliver this baby. And the
Speaker 1: woman says, I can't wait, and Michael says, all right,
Speaker 1: I can be the one. I can deliver this baby.
Speaker 1: And all right, you go get prepped for delivery. And
Speaker 1: as the patient is wheeled away, Michael suddenly becomes a
Speaker 1: little less confident and he turns to Kimberly and he says, hey,
Speaker 1: have you ever delivered a baby? And she's like, what
Speaker 1: you No, have you? And he admits actually he's only
Speaker 1: assisted and observed, but never actually delivered one. But he
Speaker 1: grabs Kimberly's arm and pulled her along, saying, don't worry,
Speaker 1: we'll figure it out. And together they go through the
Speaker 1: double doors labeled maternity and they're gonna do this.
Speaker 3: And how full of dread were you? You're like, oh god, oh,
Speaker 3: because of the last scene. I was so full of dread.
Speaker 3: I was like, please don't do this to me again.
Speaker 3: I barely recovered from the gunshot wound. Oh.
Speaker 1: So we're back at Jake's apartment where he's adding a
Speaker 1: little uh nutmeg to his eggnog.
Speaker 3: A little spice, a little spice.
Speaker 1: Joe's wondering a little spice to his lady, yeah, which
Speaker 1: she said she didn't like, but maybe, oh, who care?
Speaker 2: I like it now.
Speaker 1: She's very mushy washy, but go on. And she's wondering
Speaker 1: why Christmas is the only holiday with Carol's, which I
Speaker 1: thought was so funny. And Jake's like, well, what Elvis
Speaker 1: sings Easter? I don't think so, And Joe says she
Speaker 1: really loves the CD, which I'm sure you noticed now
Speaker 1: that it's twenty twenty four and those music rights are
Speaker 1: not there. This was not Elvis playing over the scene, Yes,
Speaker 1: and I heard it. I mean it probably was in
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety two because they had limited, you know, rights
Speaker 1: to use this song for the scene, and now they
Speaker 1: don't so for streaming. Like now that we have these
Speaker 1: things around DVDs and they're streaming and stuff, those music
Speaker 1: rights are all changed. So I think a lot of
Speaker 1: our original music has been replaced for the streaming versions
Speaker 1: of what we're all watching.
Speaker 3: Oh stuff.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't ever remembered that, but the minute you said that,
Speaker 2: I thought, oh, it didn't sound like Elvis.
Speaker 1: I couldn't gess it wasn't Elvis. But that's the version
Speaker 1: that we're watching today. But I think in nineteen ninety
Speaker 1: two it was probably an Elvis Christmas song because that
Speaker 1: was a whole story point, right, But you would have
Speaker 1: heard about that if it wasn't right. It was a
Speaker 1: whole story point. He said, you know, I've got the CD,
Speaker 1: and she's like, great, I'm in Yeah. So anyway, he
Speaker 1: then one step find out why were you even such
Speaker 1: of her to run off earlier when I blocked your getaway?
Speaker 1: And she says, you know, it's just I just have
Speaker 1: bad associations with Christmas, my husband and his dreadful family.
Speaker 1: And he says, well, I think you just need to
Speaker 1: find new meaning in Christmas. And so yeah, he says
Speaker 1: it's not so easy, and he says, why does it
Speaker 1: have to be so complicated? I have found a new meaning,
Speaker 1: and he then you know, turns into them there, pulls
Speaker 1: her up from the couch. They start dancing to the
Speaker 1: Christmas music. Pretty soon they're kissing, and Joe forgets everything
Speaker 1: she was saying. She says, it up, it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: what I was saying is now relevant.
Speaker 2: Forget what I said about the controlling whatever, and forget
Speaker 2: about the eggnog love it and uh whatever.
Speaker 3: Half in his boundaries. They're very guard all.
Speaker 1: I like kissing. So they end up on the couch
Speaker 1: they're making out, and then Joe does stop him from
Speaker 1: sort of going any further on buttoning your top, and
Speaker 1: he reminds Jake that he said Elvis and egg knock
Speaker 1: and sort of stops him right there. And Jake says,
Speaker 1: but I do know how I feel about you. I
Speaker 1: want to be with you in any way that makes
Speaker 1: you feel comfortable. And Joe kisses him and says, just
Speaker 1: this for tonight, puts up a boundary. Jake says, well,
Speaker 1: sort of reminds me of being in the back of
Speaker 1: an old Mustang. She says, well, if you play your
Speaker 1: cards right, you might get lucky by Valentine's Day.
Speaker 2: It's so hard to have this kind of scene with
Speaker 2: somebody that you're not comfortable with. It's so hard to
Speaker 2: like all the acting chops in the world, but it
Speaker 2: really can only do it with someone that is fun.
Speaker 2: You're playing, you know you're playing, you're play acting at
Speaker 2: the end of the day. And so I've had these
Speaker 2: kinds of scenes with other people and it's just gets
Speaker 2: so serious and when the chemistry's not there.
Speaker 1: It's so much hard. And his last line is really
Speaker 1: cute because he says, well, I kind of feel like
Speaker 1: I'm lucky right now. It's such a cute mind end
Speaker 1: the scene. This is the softness you guys are talking about,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, really that you're really brings out in him? So
Speaker 3: so yummy.
Speaker 1: Yeah good. So then back at Allison Billy's apartment, she's
Speaker 1: on the phone asking for Billy. She's calling the cab companies,
Speaker 1: telling the operator you need to tell him to phone
Speaker 1: home right away, and she hangs up and tells Matt
Speaker 1: she doesn't know if Billy's coming back for Christmas dinner.
Speaker 3: But the operator is saying he's not working. So now
Speaker 3: we know that Billy was lying about going to work.
Speaker 1: So she's admitting she's worried that Billy's trying to avoid
Speaker 1: her after what she said, and she's afraid she's ruined
Speaker 1: Billy's Christmas. Matt realizes he needs a whisk for what
Speaker 1: he's whipping up in the kitchen. She doesn't have one,
Speaker 1: so he heads out to grab one from his apartment,
Speaker 1: telling Alison don't worry about Billy.
Speaker 2: And she goes, sorry, we just have the basics, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know, but there's so much stuff
Speaker 2: spread everywhere and food and their plans and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I don't know about your basics, Allison, but they've done
Speaker 2: so much already.
Speaker 1: But I let no whisk his place for the whisk
Speaker 1: he does, so, he goes outside and in the courty
Speaker 1: already notices his father, Matt's father just turning to walk
Speaker 1: away from Matt's apartment door. Matt stops him and saying, hey,
Speaker 1: I was just next door making dinner with friends, and
Speaker 1: his father's really grateful when Matt invites him into his apartment.
Speaker 1: So inside, Matt's dad compliments Matt's apartment and goes onto
Speaker 1: a apologize to Matt for his lack of understanding of
Speaker 1: that work business he calls it, and that he was
Speaker 1: pleased to hear from Matt's mother that everything has worked
Speaker 1: out with his job. He says he'll always be on
Speaker 1: Matt's side and the last thing he wanted to do
Speaker 1: is alienate Matt. He tells Matt that he loves him
Speaker 1: so much and can we put this all behind us?
Speaker 1: And Matt agrees to put it behind them.
Speaker 3: It's really sweet. The dad is so vulnerable.
Speaker 1: I love this scene and he was great in the scene.
Speaker 1: His name is James Handy, lovely actor, and he was
Speaker 1: terrific in the scene. Doug loved working with him, and
Speaker 1: so they end the scene where he says to Matt
Speaker 1: that Christmas just isn't the same without him. Wants him
Speaker 1: to come home to the house where his mom will
Speaker 1: have dinner waiting, but Matt says, I'm going to make
Speaker 1: dinner with my friends tonight, but it means a lot
Speaker 1: to me that you came. So they hug, they wish
Speaker 1: each other Marry Christmas.
Speaker 3: Well, first they shake hands, did you notice that? I
Speaker 3: was like no? And then they pulled he turns into
Speaker 3: a house.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, the exchange I love yous and Matt's dad leaves.
Speaker 6: Hi.
Speaker 5: I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are you
Speaker 5: a Charlotte. In nineteen ninety seven, my life was forever
Speaker 5: changed when I took on the role of Charlotte Yorke
Speaker 5: on a new HBO show called Sex.
Speaker 6: And the City.
Speaker 5: As we watched Carrie, Samantha, Miranda, and Charlotte navigate relationships
Speaker 5: in New York City, the show helped push once unacceptable
Speaker 5: conversation topics out of the shadows and altered the narrative
Speaker 5: around women and sex. We all saw ourselves in them
Speaker 5: as they searched for fulfillment in life, sex and friendships.
Speaker 5: Now I want to connect with you and share untold
Speaker 5: stories and all the behind the scenes. Together with special guests.
Speaker 5: What will begin with sex and the City will evolve
Speaker 5: into talks about themes that are still so relevant today.
Speaker 5: Are You a Charlotte is a much more than just
Speaker 5: rewatching our beloved show. It brings the past and the
Speaker 5: present together as we talk with heart, humor, and of.
Speaker 6: Course some optimism.
Speaker 5: Listen to Are You a Charlotte on the iHeartRadio app,
Speaker 5: Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 1: Then we cut back to the hospital. They're in the
Speaker 1: delivery room and there's a newborn baby.
Speaker 3: Oh thank God, yes, so relieved.
Speaker 1: Michael is relieved and joyously holding this newborn, handing the
Speaker 1: baby over to the mother, and Michael Kimberly happily walk
Speaker 1: out of the delivery room and he says to Kimberly, well,
Speaker 1: that was unbelievably beautiful. Yeah, and they both sort of
Speaker 1: marvel at the miracle of life and Kimberly points out,
Speaker 1: you know, do I hope you're feeling better now that
Speaker 1: a new life has happened, you know, so profoundly on
Speaker 1: the same day as death. And he admits that he
Speaker 1: does feel better, but again says, you know, maybe he
Speaker 1: felt the force of God was in the room. Though
Speaker 1: he's never going to be able to stop trying to
Speaker 1: control things. Then he tells Kimberly he's leading the hospital.
Speaker 1: She says she is too, and he spontaneously says, hey,
Speaker 1: why don't you come back to, you know, my Parma
Speaker 1: complex for dinner, dinner at my place. It's an orphan dinner,
Speaker 1: just all of us rootless children about families, And she
Speaker 1: sort of reluctantly but then agrees to come, and she
Speaker 1: goes to change and she says she'll meet him in
Speaker 1: the parking lot.
Speaker 2: You know it, now that we know what Kimberly has become,
Speaker 2: she's so It's such an innocent beginning, isn't it. He's
Speaker 2: just invited because Jean's out of town, and she's just
Speaker 2: invited over this little orphan Christmas over at Melboe's place.
Speaker 1: And my god, just get right, what if? And the
Speaker 1: two of them also have a really nice dynamic and
Speaker 1: chemistry like speaking of because they really have, you know,
Speaker 1: a thoughtful relationship and like think about deep stuff and
Speaker 1: the medical connections and I don't know they have they
Speaker 1: have their own chemistry that's really like nice to watch
Speaker 1: and you can see this friendship, you know, we have
Speaker 1: to just see that.
Speaker 3: I wonder if they knew, and we have Darren on,
Speaker 3: let's ask him if they knew at this point, like
Speaker 3: did they bring her back just to disrupt things in
Speaker 3: the future, because it starts off off so innocently, although
Speaker 3: Thomas did tell us that they were playing the chemistry.
Speaker 1: Early the little flatness, yeah.
Speaker 3: As in something to keep, something to give the writer's ideas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I think it was there too, just like
Speaker 1: just enough of an door opening as a possibility. They
Speaker 1: played their scenes super lovely in this Christmas episode. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we're back in the apartment. Alison and Billy's apartment
Speaker 1: is where they all the food is going to be
Speaker 1: set out on this huge buffet, all the food that
Speaker 1: they've spent all day making. Apparently they've succeeded. It's sweet potatoes,
Speaker 1: it's rolls, it's pecan pie.
Speaker 3: Are you wonder where they were going to eat because
Speaker 3: all the food, there's no table with chairs. Where are
Speaker 3: we going to eat this?
Speaker 1: Well, they've managed to pull off this giant Christmas dinner
Speaker 1: for everybody. And Billy walks into the apartment says it
Speaker 1: smells great and asks Alison how she's feeling. She says
Speaker 1: she's feeling much better. She says, can I talk to you?
Speaker 1: And he says, actually I wanted to talk to you too.
Speaker 1: Can we talk alone? So they go into Billy's bedroom
Speaker 1: to talk alone and they sit down on Billy's bed
Speaker 1: and Allison.
Speaker 3: Goes, just quickly, did you guys notice I have a
Speaker 3: floor length velvet dress on which feels like a lot
Speaker 3: for friends, reds for dinner.
Speaker 1: It's a very special night, very nice gown Alison's wearing.
Speaker 2: Was it like red velvet?
Speaker 3: It's a deep red velvet.
Speaker 1: I remember that fabric though, like that crushed velvet, crushed
Speaker 1: kind of a lure.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well coming back in by the way, yeah, because
Speaker 3: it's nineties back.
Speaker 1: And so Alison goes first. She apologizes to Billy about
Speaker 1: being a bit of a bitch since she's been home,
Speaker 1: but that she appreciates everything he's been doing for her
Speaker 1: and that she reveals that it's kind of made her nervous,
Speaker 1: feeling like she's getting so close to him, and that
Speaker 1: needing him has started to feel scary, and she tells
Speaker 1: Billy here that he is more than just someone to
Speaker 1: split the rent with. He's now her best friend. And
Speaker 1: then Billy says that the way he felt about Allison
Speaker 1: when she was in the hospital surprised him too, that
Speaker 1: he feels scared too about how much he cares about her.
Speaker 1: So Alison apologizes, says, I feel bad we're not exchanging
Speaker 1: gifts and you really deserve a great present, and Billy
Speaker 1: tells her, you know, I used to love getting gifts
Speaker 1: when I was a kid, but nothing felt as great
Speaker 1: as getting you this, And he jumps up and he
Speaker 1: goes to the dresser in his room and he pulls
Speaker 1: Allison this gift from his dresser. He's like waiting for
Speaker 1: the opportunity to give it to her anyway, and he's
Speaker 1: just so happy to do it. And she opens the
Speaker 1: bag and she sees this beautiful necklace and says, oh, Billy,
Speaker 1: it's beautiful. I don't know what to say, and he
Speaker 1: tells her, just say Mary Christmas, and they stand up
Speaker 1: and she says Merry Christmas, and she kisses him on
Speaker 1: the cheek and they hug and it's so sweet.
Speaker 3: I've still got to say, Allison seems dense to me.
Speaker 3: This is there's a jewelry box, there's a gold necklace.
Speaker 3: Like she's still saying you're the greatest buddy. It's like,
Speaker 3: how are you missing? How is she this on?
Speaker 1: I'm going to defend Allison because Billy doesn't want her
Speaker 1: to come to that conclusion just yet. He's not so sure.
Speaker 1: He's he hasn't committed to that conclusion right. He's still
Speaker 1: walking a line where he's not so sure because he's
Speaker 1: not coming out and saying it right.
Speaker 3: He's do you think? But everything you said about this
Speaker 3: scene about I'm scared of how much I need you,
Speaker 3: I'm scared of how much I love That's it could
Speaker 3: be a romantic conversation too. I'm afraid of how much
Speaker 3: I feel for you. I'm afraid of i'mu I love
Speaker 3: you like it's just right.
Speaker 2: It's because you have a history together already, and it's
Speaker 2: just friends, and that's more awkward than just you know,
Speaker 2: Jake and Joe meet each other and there's chemistry and
Speaker 2: they're both single.
Speaker 1: But uh, maybe that's your issue.
Speaker 2: He's not married, so you're not.
Speaker 1: That trab Okay, that's not fair where I was going.
Speaker 2: That's nut, that's but I just feel like I feel
Speaker 2: for you guys, because there's a history and there's a comfortability,
Speaker 2: and there's a just a history of friends and it's
Speaker 2: awkward to change it.
Speaker 1: Maybe.
Speaker 3: But also I know you were kidding with the married
Speaker 3: but what what that did spark something for me, which
Speaker 3: is he is emotionally available for her, and that's very
Speaker 3: scary for Allison, so she will choose the unavailable guy.
Speaker 3: So I think you were actually onto something.
Speaker 1: Okay, But what we've seen in the scene from what
Speaker 1: they both said, they're both feeling the same thing and
Speaker 1: they're both revealing it to each other in this moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was a very long kiss on his cheek.
Speaker 1: Yeah, feeling things that scare them and we all know
Speaker 1: what those feelings are. Yes. So they leave to go
Speaker 1: back to the kitchen and the living room for the food,
Speaker 1: and Joe and Jake are entering the apartment with a
Speaker 1: bowl of eggnog saying, ah, this delicious smell was driving
Speaker 1: us nuts, and Matt says the turkey might be a
Speaker 1: little dry. He had to nuke it to get it
Speaker 1: done on time. Billy says, I hate eggnog, and Jake laughs,
Speaker 1: saying you're gonna love this eggnog. And Joe wants to
Speaker 1: know how Alison's doing. She says much better, and she
Speaker 1: shows than the necklace that Billy just gave her. Joe
Speaker 1: here just rolls her eyes and walks out of the shot.
Speaker 1: But she goes up to Billy with a cup of eggnog. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And this is where he just quietly tells Joe, you know,
Speaker 1: the necklace was a token of friendship, and Joe says,
Speaker 1: of course, it's just a token of friendship, and that's
Speaker 1: exactly what you get in return. Ah, She sticks it
Speaker 1: to him there bills him, and then Michael and Kimberly
Speaker 1: come into the apartment. Michael introduces her as his colleague, saying,
Speaker 1: Kimberly and I made a baby together. And then off
Speaker 1: of everyone's stunned faces, he says, I mean we delivered
Speaker 1: a baby together. It was our first one.
Speaker 3: It was amazing, And if Allison wasn't so high on painkillers,
Speaker 3: she would have said, we only have enough for the guests.
Speaker 1: We invite it, and we only made a few.
Speaker 2: I feel so protective of Jane. Don't you guys feel
Speaker 2: protective of Jane?
Speaker 1: When he says I got I feel like she's kind
Speaker 1: of left out of this. This is such a lovely party, and.
Speaker 2: She's really getting married, probably in real life, but still,
Speaker 2: I like, get Jane, get back here.
Speaker 1: Something's happening. And Billy tells everyone, let everybody go outside.
Speaker 1: I've got a big surprise before dinner. So they go
Speaker 1: out into the courtyard. Everybody's got their cups of eggnog,
Speaker 1: and Billy tells everyone to look up, and he plugs
Speaker 1: in the Christmas lights and the whole courtyard lights up
Speaker 1: with beautiful colored lights everywhere, and it's lovely and there's
Speaker 1: a Christmas music underneath the scene, and Joe says, wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 1: I want to make a toast, and she raises her
Speaker 1: glass and she says, you know, I always thought that
Speaker 1: friends were people that you meet in high school or college.
Speaker 1: I never expected to meet them in an apartment building
Speaker 1: like this. She says she never thought she'd be the
Speaker 1: one to discover the meaning of Christmas, but now she
Speaker 1: realizes that she is living this Christmas spirit and it's
Speaker 1: all are you about to crack up? It's something funny
Speaker 1: to you about her saying this, No, I'm telling you.
Speaker 2: You're like.
Speaker 1: Then she's like, are you kidding me? I just think
Speaker 1: it's so sweet and likely, like he's tell her Charlie
Speaker 1: Brown waiting. Yeah, she's having the epiphany moment. You're like,
Speaker 1: I'm still here.
Speaker 2: Daphne's body, Oh my god, you laughing at her.
Speaker 1: It's just so sweet, Like no, because like Joe in
Speaker 1: this moment, I have to point out is smiling and
Speaker 1: she's like, I'm happy, Like, can I share with you
Speaker 1: what I've learned about Like she's smiling instead of the cynical, poopy,
Speaker 1: grinchy Joe. She's like, wait a minute, I'm here to
Speaker 1: say I'm so grateful and and this is all about rebirth,
Speaker 1: and here's to my new friends, my new life, and
Speaker 1: they all toast. It's like such this happy Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 1: I just thought you were laughing.
Speaker 2: Well, no, I did that when I was texting someone
Speaker 2: last Night's so emotional anyway, and I was just watching this,
Speaker 2: you know, And I just love doing this thirty years
Speaker 2: later because you really did get You really do get
Speaker 2: swept up into.
Speaker 1: All of their friendship and the Yeah, well, I think
Speaker 1: the episode like used all these wonderful the images and
Speaker 1: the lit up courtyard and everybody's smiling faces, and Joe
Speaker 1: having her like turning point moment where she goes from
Speaker 1: being ger and she to like, wait a minute, this
Speaker 1: is wonderful, and I want to tell you all how
Speaker 1: wonderful this is. And here's to my new friends and
Speaker 1: my new life. And once they toast, Matt says, all right, now,
Speaker 1: can we just go in and eat please? And they
Speaker 1: go inside and everyone goes in except for Billy. He
Speaker 1: sort of lingers back and he stays outside admiring the lights,
Speaker 1: and Allison stays back to and she goes to stand
Speaker 1: next to him, and Billy says, you know, Joe is right,
Speaker 1: this is beautiful. We should leave these lights up all year.
Speaker 1: And Alison wishes Billy a merry Christmas and again kisses
Speaker 1: him very sweetly on the cheek, and he puts his
Speaker 1: arm around her, and they go back into their apartment together,
Speaker 1: and the camera pulls back with a wide shot at
Speaker 1: this beautiful Mary courtyard.
Speaker 3: I love the lights of all year. We did lights
Speaker 3: on the tree in front of our house A few
Speaker 3: years ago and just kept them up. Yeah, were they
Speaker 3: colored or were they white? Well, they started out white
Speaker 3: and now they're kind of white and gold. Because as
Speaker 3: lights go out and you have to replace them, you
Speaker 3: can never do an exact match. So I'm pretending they're
Speaker 3: supposed to be. I'm saying it was a conscious choice
Speaker 3: why there's different shades of white, But it actually is
Speaker 3: pretty and I don't want to throw away lights that
Speaker 3: are still good because of the waste, So I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm just going to go with it.
Speaker 2: Well, I like lights that are I think that's perfectly appropriate.
Speaker 2: If there're anytime anyone wants to leave any light up,
Speaker 2: that's fine. But the white ones I think are really great.
Speaker 2: I've seen inside too.
Speaker 3: I know people that yes so on their railings.
Speaker 1: I think it are great. Well, this was a very
Speaker 1: festive Christmas episode. It sort of felt like one of
Speaker 1: these things that you should watch if and people our
Speaker 1: audience are listeners to our podcast, If you didn't actually
Speaker 1: watched the Melrose Christmas episode, you should. And it's one
Speaker 1: of these things I think people can go to, you
Speaker 1: know how people have their go to Christmas movies, like
Speaker 1: oh yeah, it almost feels like This episode of Melrose
Speaker 1: is one of those where you get your ups and
Speaker 1: your downs and your bittersweets, you might have like you
Speaker 1: feel a little teary at some point, and then it
Speaker 1: ends on just such a like warm Christmas. That's how
Speaker 1: this episode feels to me.
Speaker 3: They did a good job servicing all the characters right,
Speaker 3: like we all. Every single character had something interesting to do,
Speaker 3: which is not easy to do with so many cast
Speaker 3: members except Josie who maybe is doing something interesting somewhere else.
Speaker 3: But and then Ronda went skiing and she still.
Speaker 1: Out fabulous moment and fabulous.
Speaker 3: Yeah, great moment.
Speaker 1: This was a fun episode is classic. It's really great,
Speaker 1: super fun and it's we just want to wish all
Speaker 1: of ours still the place listeners a very happy holidays.
Speaker 2: And and don't forget this was the Christmas episode was
Speaker 2: eighteen and guess who comes.
Speaker 1: To the part.
Speaker 3: Incomings yay Christmas present is Laura coming on the next episode? Yayay?
Speaker 1: Well, thank everybody for listening. We're so grateful for our
Speaker 1: our listeners, and happy holidays everybody.
Speaker 3: I haven't a great time whatever we're doing.
Speaker 1: Be safe and we'll see you so next time.
Speaker 2: Bye.