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Speaker 1: Here we go Tuesday on Thanksgiving week, we're live. We're

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Speaker 1: in Chicago. It's the Herd. One hour from now, the

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Speaker 1: Herd Hierarchy. What are we gonna do with, oh Chicago Bears. Well,

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Speaker 1: they make their first appearance in the Herd Hierarchy. Great

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Speaker 1: to have you in today. You know, it was so

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Speaker 1: fun because I've brought Pretty was obviously awful last night,

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Speaker 1: and in the first half I thought, well, he had

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Speaker 1: a toe injury, and I thought, all right, I said

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Speaker 1: it on my podcast at the volume last night. I said,

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Speaker 1: he's obvious. He can't drive the ball. Every one of

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Speaker 1: his interceptions was behind the guy and they kind of

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Speaker 1: hung in the air. There was no zip on the ball.

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Speaker 1: And Pretty came out after the game and said it

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Speaker 1: had nothing to do with my toe. Oh, so you

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Speaker 1: were just awful against Carolina that has no pass rush. Listen,

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Speaker 1: we watch Matt Stafford on Sunday Night Football. That's a

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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer mastery of the position. Big arm, pre snap,

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Speaker 1: looks left, fire's right. Last night you saw two average quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: One's making a fortune and one wants to make a fortune.

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Speaker 1: Five picks total, multiple bad throws to open receivers. And remember,

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Speaker 1: the NFL's not baseball where we care about history. It's

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Speaker 1: not the NBA where style matters. The NFL. When you're

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Speaker 1: a quarterback, it's about your last twenty starts. It's about now,

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Speaker 1: last twenty starts. Matt Stafford brought pretty and Bryce Young.

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Speaker 1: Matt Stafford's forty three to five. That is an elite

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Speaker 1: friend quarterback. Forty three touchdowns, five picks. Bryce Young at

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Speaker 1: least has a two to one touchdown to interception ratio

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Speaker 1: with a bunch of kids at wide receiver Brock Purty

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Speaker 1: thirty touchdowns, nineteen picks, and by the way, on Monday

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Speaker 1: Night Football, he presses because he wants to show everybody

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Speaker 1: in a standalone game, hey, I belong Monday Night Football.

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Speaker 1: In his career, five touchdowns, eleven picks, seventy five passer rating,

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Speaker 1: so I said in August, Rams are going to win

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Speaker 1: the only two things with the Diners this year that

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Speaker 1: have blown me away. Robert Salad deserves a head coaching job.

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Speaker 1: What he is doing without Warner, without Bosa, without Fungo's

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Speaker 1: just kids. And I mean Bryce Youlln was great a

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Speaker 1: week ago, he was atrocious last night. So and Christian

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Speaker 1: McCaffrey is I mean, honestly, he should get paid overtime.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he is the offense. But everybody keeps trying

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Speaker 1: to convince Colin you're tough on brock pretty No, no, you're

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Speaker 1: trying to convince me he's elite. If you'd stop doing that,

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Speaker 1: I'd stop talking about him. Well, he's smart, so was Aristotle.

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Speaker 1: I need elite quarterback traits, arm size, mobility like Bryce Young.

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Speaker 1: It's not a franchise quarterback. He's a bridge quarterback. He's

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Speaker 1: not a backup. He's a bridge. But nobody's trying to

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Speaker 1: convince me he's an all timer. So so you guys

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Speaker 1: keep trying to convince me, Oh, this is what this

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Speaker 1: is what it looks like when he had a stacked

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Speaker 1: He was at an Iowa State and he was he

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Speaker 1: was healthy. It's kind of fun, and he moves pretty well.

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Speaker 1: Said it last week after the Arizona game. He moves

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Speaker 1: pretty well. But do you know since he entered the NFL,

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Speaker 1: But this year, on throws just ten yards down the field,

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Speaker 1: he's the NFL's worst quarterback. One touchdown, seven picks. So well, Colin,

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Speaker 1: Once you make fifty three million a year, that's more

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was asked to that answer. He was asked

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Speaker 1: if Joe Burrow, Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar, Justin Herbert should

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Speaker 3: That when you watch the game, the brown played with

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Speaker 3: bad interception, but he bounced back really well off of it.

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Speaker 3: I think he has the pulse of the team, the

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Speaker 1: He plays with more confidence, he takes more risks. Dylan Gabriel,

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Speaker 1: do you realize this led the NFL? He was last

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Speaker 1: is you're not going to get rich in life. Investing

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Speaker 1: in four oh one k's, you can get comfortable or content.

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Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel is not even a four to oh one K.

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Speaker 1: He's that savings bond grandma gave you when you were nine.

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Speaker 1: There's just no upside. It's safe. He's not taking any risks.

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Speaker 1: But I think in pro football locker rooms that kind

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Speaker 1: You got fifty five NFL bodies. I mean, Miles Garrett's

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Speaker 1: reaction to Shadeur Sanders is, Oh, this is fun. We

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Speaker 1: And that's why I should start little Goofy for my taste.

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Speaker 1: Shadour's a little goofy for me, but he's a joyful kid,

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Speaker 1: know what I couldn't figure out this? Ricodowell is one

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Speaker 1: what you want about Kyle Shanahan. The entire offense drives

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Speaker 1: through Christian McCaffrey. You have your Christian McCaffrey. Is he

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Speaker 1: as good? I don't know, but Rico Dowdell is a really,

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Speaker 4: It was a wacky game, was it not. It just

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Speaker 4: fell all around like the pretty interceptions and.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I'm gonna pull a you.

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Speaker 4: Last week, you know, member Sam Darnold threw four picks

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Speaker 4: against the Rams, and you're like, I don't really care

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Speaker 4: about interceptions. You're trying things.

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Speaker 1: Rockberty was trying things last night. None of them worked. Okay,

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Speaker 1: he had a bad half. It was bad. You flush it,

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Speaker 4: I am worried, however, about this Browns game, because oh,

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Speaker 4: the defense at home is nasty.

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Speaker 1: Oh, let me just tell you right now, I have

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Speaker 1: revised what I said yesterday. Cleveland plus six and a

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Speaker 1: of the weekend against the Niners on a short wee. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Remember a couple of years ago he went to Cleveland

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Speaker 4: But this is going to be a difficult game for him.

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Speaker 4: And I'll be honest if you ask me Jayback, what

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Speaker 4: the hell was wrong with pretty I think in an

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Speaker 1: So I watching this Lane Kiffin circus just cracks me up.

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Speaker 1: allows you to steal another program's coach. Don't be mad

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Speaker 1: Because since he arrived at Old Miss, they're the number

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Speaker 1: USC hired a guy named Clay Helton, wonderful guy. Family,

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Speaker 1: There are certain traits the great coaches have, Saban Urban, Dabbo, Lane,

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Speaker 1: when are we gonna get an answer? When Lane wants

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Speaker 1: defending him. No, I know college football, and I'm defending

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Speaker 1: I said this yesterday Wall Street, Silicon Valley or sports.

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Speaker 1: they're gonna, They're gonna, That's that's their nature. That's who

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Speaker 6: Very chard question, but are not answering anything that doesn't

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Speaker 6: the season for you? When you think about the how

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so I mean you can just keep going. Not

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Speaker 1: He's gonna have to wait. Sorry, Beat reporters. You're just

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Speaker 4: Let's get started with this Philadelphia Eagles debacle. Up twenty

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Speaker 7: Obviously, they win and they got to win, so there's

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Speaker 7: But I felt like that fort was really really high

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. Offensively, I still I don't understand

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Speaker 4: A lot of people are cutting up clips from these

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Speaker 4: It's very predictable, and the Cowboys defense, which got run

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Speaker 1: To stop everything. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I don't what the concern level is for you with

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Speaker 1: But we're just gonna have to acknowledge Saquan's not going

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Speaker 4: Wonder you have fourteen point blown lead against the Broncos

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Speaker 4: strange time, by the way, Bears, your Bears getting seven. Now,

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Speaker 1: Right, No, No, I'm not all right.

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Speaker 4: Let's move on to the Baltimore Ravens and Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 4: So I don't want to say they got exposed a

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Speaker 7: No.

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Speaker 4: T Higgins, by the way, he's been ruled out with

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Speaker 4: a concussion. Final story, Colin, this is an ugly when

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Speaker 1: This is ugly. I mean, this is going to get expensive.

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Speaker 4: Kelly and his lawyers are alleging that LSU is holding

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Speaker 4: him back from getting another head coaching job. LSU is saying, hey, man,

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Speaker 4: we don't know you fifty four million because we fired

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Speaker 4: you with cause. And they're like, what's the cause And

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Speaker 4: LSU has nothing, They have shown nothing, and they're like, well,

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Speaker 4: we didn't actually fire you.

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Speaker 1: It was a dismissal.

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Speaker 4: And it's like Colin again, I know you think this.

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Speaker 1: It looks it looks shady. LSU looks really shady to me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if you're laying Kiffin and.

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Speaker 4: Said, I know he watches the show, are you advising Lane?

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Speaker 1: You want to go to that? No? I don't ca.

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Speaker 1: I mean listen again, I would stay at Old miss

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Speaker 1: or go pro, go to the Tennessee Titans. That's what

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Speaker 1: I would do if I was Lane. I would I

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Speaker 1: think Florida is a better job than LSU. For me, lifestyle,

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Speaker 1: quality of life, Gainesville not that far, you know, from

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Speaker 1: the Atlantic Ocean. I think Florida is a great job,

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Speaker 1: top five or six job in the country. But my

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Speaker 1: guess is LSU, more desperate, will pay more money.

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Speaker 4: Well, you've talked about this all the time with jobs

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Speaker 4: management matters.

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Speaker 1: Oh and like I know, LSU.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, they won national championships. Ed ojeron Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 4: Look at currently right now? What's going on there? And

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Speaker 4: you really want to go into that. I wouldn't you

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Speaker 4: feel you could trust those guys?

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, that's the answer. Jmck with the.

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Speaker 2: News, Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by

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Speaker 2: the herd Line News.

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Speaker 1: So I saw this headline this I'm gonna throw something

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Speaker 1: at you that I think is an arbitrary number that

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Speaker 1: everybody in sports sees it as a number having value,

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Speaker 1: and I see it as an arbitrary number that doesn't

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Speaker 1: really mean anything. So Mike Tomlin and the Steelers have

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Speaker 1: not had a losing season in twenty one seasons. Who

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Speaker 1: but there's a story this morning. Is the hot seat

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Speaker 1: heating up? Well, he hasn't won a playoff game in

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Speaker 1: eight years. He would be fired if he was the

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Speaker 1: Eagles coach or the Cowboys coach. He would be fired.

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Speaker 1: If he was I mean the New England coach, the

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Speaker 1: San Francisco coach, the Green Bay coach. Green Bay, you

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Speaker 1: gotta win playoff games. He'd be fired if he was

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Speaker 1: the Ravens coach. But in Pittsburgh it's old school and

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Speaker 1: they take pride and stuff like we have not had

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Speaker 1: a losing season in twenty one years. I want you

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Speaker 1: to think about that. I went and looked this up

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Speaker 1: this morning, in that same stretch twenty one seasons, to

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Speaker 1: show you how little that means. We haven't had a

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Speaker 1: losing season. In that same stretch twenty one seasons, sixty

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Speaker 1: NFL teams with winning records missed the playoffs. Winning record

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean anything, it doesn't guarantee anything. In twenty one seasons,

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Speaker 1: four times they were five hundred, another four they were

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Speaker 1: a game over. What does it mean. It's just an

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Speaker 1: arbitrary number. So let me give you five, four or

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Speaker 1: five teams that in twenty one seasons have had losing seasons.

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Speaker 1: The Chiefs, Philadelphia, Rams, Tampa Bay, the Patriots they bought

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Speaker 1: them out. They have losing seasons so you know this

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Speaker 1: whole thing about Mike Tomlin not having a losing season.

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Speaker 1: Let me throw this at you. You know who has

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Speaker 1: the longest streak in the NBA of not having a

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Speaker 1: losing season? I want you to think about this. Give it,

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Speaker 1: give it ten seconds. What NBA franchise has the longest

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Speaker 1: streak of non losing seasons? The Clippers fourteen. In their

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Speaker 1: own city, the Lakers make fun of the Clippers. Genie Buss,

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Speaker 1: the former owner, used to make fun of the Clippers

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Speaker 1: privately and publicly. They were a laughing stock. Didn't matter

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Speaker 1: if Steve Balmer had ten times the net worth. The

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Speaker 1: Clippers are like the eye roll of Los Angeles, and

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Speaker 1: they got good people in the building in Tyler's. You're

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Speaker 1: the Clippers. I mean, you got a bunch of banners.

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Speaker 1: But it's just to me, it's just I mean at

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh is it's a small city. You know, I get it.

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Speaker 1: It's old school, you know. I mean, you go to

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Speaker 1: a party in Pittsburgh, you talk about it's like Saint Louis,

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Speaker 1: where'd you go to high school? That's like, that's like

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Speaker 1: not a conversation in New York, Chicago, Philly, Boston, San Francisco,

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Speaker 1: La Saint Louis, Pittsburgh, Hey, where'd you go to high school?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm forty four. Who cares? But that

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Speaker 1: you know, I get it. But this whole arbitrary. I

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Speaker 1: would rather have the Steelers bought them out this year.

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Speaker 1: And if Dante Moore is available, go grab him. I

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Speaker 1: mean that to me. Go get a legitimate franchise quarterback

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Speaker 1: for fifteen years, twelve of it in this prime. So

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Speaker 1: but I this whole Tomlin thing, bella chick and Andy

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Speaker 1: Reid got let go. It's nothing against Mike, but this

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Speaker 1: arbitrary twenty one years without a losing record, it means nothing.

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Speaker 1: Winning record. Sixty teams in twenty one years have had

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Speaker 1: a winning record or were not sub five hundred, did

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Speaker 1: not have a losing season, and to make the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what everybody's getting worked up about in Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean I've been saying this for four years.

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Speaker 1: Their tone, deft offense, they don't take quarterbacks seriously, all right,

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Speaker 1: hurt hierarchy. Top of the hour. I saw this. So

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Speaker 1: Michigan Ohio State is Saturday, and I strongly believe that

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Speaker 1: Ohio State as long as at least one of their

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Speaker 1: two star receivers at least one plays like Carnell Tait

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Speaker 1: Jeremiah Smith. If both play, they're gonna win easily. If

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Speaker 1: one plays, they're gonna win. If neither plays, it kind

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Speaker 1: of changes the calculus, like you don't have to play

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Speaker 1: defense the same way. And I do think Michigan between

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Speaker 1: the quarterback Underwood, who is a baller, and marsh Trump,

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Speaker 1: one of the better receiving talents they've had in a decade,

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Speaker 1: those guys are playmakers and they're playing at home. But

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Speaker 1: let's just be honest about Ohio State and Michigan, the

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Speaker 1: football programs and the history here. I'll try to be

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Speaker 1: as honest as I can.

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Speaker 4: Fox College Football Friday is under the Lights in primetime.

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Speaker 1: This week, we got the.

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Speaker 4: Duel I'm the Desert as Noah Fafita leads Arizona against

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Speaker 4: Arizona State Friday night.

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Speaker 1: Nine pm.

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Speaker 4: He's turned six pm Pacific on Fox underready rivalry.

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Speaker 1: So Michigan hosts Ohio State this week, and I've said

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Speaker 1: I like Ohio State comfortable. So I'm a huge Jim

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Speaker 1: Harball fan. I think there's an argument he's if you

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Speaker 1: count college and pro. The NBA Basketball Hall of Fame counts,

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Speaker 1: college counts, Pro counts everything you know, our pro football

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, it's just pros. If you had a

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame in football like basketball, there's an argument.

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Speaker 1: Jim Harball is one of the great coaches in the

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Speaker 1: history of the sport. For nine years I defended him

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Speaker 1: against what I considered to be short sighted critics and

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Speaker 1: reactive critics. I think he's a great football coach. But

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Speaker 1: make no mistake, Ohio State's the better football program than Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Michigan is the superior university. The law school's better, the

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Speaker 1: business schools better, the medical school. Michigan is a top

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Speaker 1: three public university in America. Try to get my daughter

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Speaker 1: to go there, Dad, it's too cold. Okay, whatever, good school.

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Speaker 1: But you say, buck eyes, you think college football. They

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Speaker 1: have an SEC commitment and SEC tribal passion, an obsessed

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Speaker 1: nature to them that Michigan doesn't quite have, and they're

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Speaker 1: proud of it like SEC schools. So on Saturdays, Columbus

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Speaker 1: is the most northern southern city in America. It's just different.

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Speaker 1: So and I always said this hardball is the reason

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Speaker 1: they won the Natty. If you go look at all

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Speaker 1: those Michigan stars that dominated at Ohio State the last

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Speaker 1: couple of years, none of them have hit in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Blake Corham, Invisible, JJ McCarthy, Mason Graham, Roman Wilson, Kenneth Grant.

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Speaker 1: Ye go look around the league at Ohio State, guys,

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Speaker 1: they're the top of every roster they're on. So in fact,

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Speaker 1: that national championship in Michigan, if you go and look

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Speaker 1: at what they call talent composite rankings, Michigan's was fourteenth,

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Speaker 1: the lowest since the College Football Playoff has existed for

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Speaker 1: national champion. That was a hardball national championship. They won

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Speaker 1: games without throwing a pass in halves. So Ohio State

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Speaker 1: football is a machine. Michigan is very head coach reliant.

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Speaker 1: Ohio State take away at interim coaches. Ohio State wins

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Speaker 1: with everybody. And don't forget from two thousand and one

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Speaker 1: to twenty nineteen, Ohio State was seventeen and two. Okay,

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Speaker 1: go look at Urban Myers. You know, record in the matchup.

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Speaker 1: So as long as Ohio State's wide receivers, one of

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Speaker 1: their two superstars are healthy, they're going to win the game.

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Speaker 1: But I said this before. College football is very much

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Speaker 1: a coaches sport. The NFL is a quarterport. And I

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Speaker 1: don't think you can replace Jim Harbaugh, who you know,

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Speaker 1: and people say, well it took him a while. Again,

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Speaker 1: Michigan is Notre Dame. Not everybody can get in. It

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Speaker 1: is rigorous academically. Michigan graduates, I know they love football,

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Speaker 1: but business first. Ohio State people, I know, it's football first.

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Speaker 1: It's not a criticism, it's a reality. So you know,

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Speaker 1: on the show, from time to time we'll talk odds,

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Speaker 1: so people ask me a lot. I ran into somebody

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Speaker 1: yesterday in Chicago, oh I think about the Bears and

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Speaker 1: I said, you know, I don't know, but I know

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Speaker 1: Vegas doesn't like him. So the Bears are in first

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Speaker 1: place eight and three. They are a seven point dog

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Speaker 1: to a team that can't run the football and very

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Speaker 1: frequently can't score Philadelphia. Now think about that Kuddy Carolina

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Speaker 1: against the defense in San Francisco with no pass rush.

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Speaker 1: Creuddy Carolina was a seven point dog last night. Last

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Speaker 1: week three and seven Cincinnati three and seven at the

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Speaker 1: time without Joe Burrow or Jamar Chase was a seven

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Speaker 1: and a half point dog to number one seed New England.

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Speaker 1: So Vegas is telling you you're basically Cincinnati with no

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow against the Patriots, your creuddy Carolina against Kyle

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Speaker 1: Shanahan and Robert Sala. So Vegas does not buy the

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Speaker 1: Chicago Bears, who it should be noted, are the second

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Speaker 1: best rushing team in the NFL. What does rushing do

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Speaker 1: helps you on the road. The number one rushing team

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Speaker 1: in the league is Seattle. I think Seattle's won ten

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Speaker 1: of their last eleven road games. Why is Seattle so

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Speaker 1: good on the road? Because Seattle runs it and plays defense.

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Speaker 1: That's what wins on the road. Vertical passing games. Miami

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Speaker 1: Dolphins when they had Waddle and Tyreek Hill does not

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Speaker 1: win on the road late in the season. So Chicago

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Speaker 1: to me is actually, if they had a better defense,

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Speaker 1: the run game should help on the road. Take the

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Speaker 1: crowd out of it long drives. But it's kind of

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Speaker 1: remarkable to me that Chicago has this great record and

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Speaker 1: Vegas looks at them and goes, yeah, you're kind of

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Speaker 1: Carolina going to face the Niners. You know, he kind

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Speaker 1: of Cincinnati host in New England. Seven point spread in

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Speaker 1: the NFL is a fat number. Here's Ben Johnson this

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Speaker 1: week on this group of guys and the closeness they have.

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Speaker 8: I think we'll get the right type of guys and

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Speaker 8: that's you know, Ryan's really done a great job with

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Speaker 8: constructing the roster that way. But the veteran leadership is outstanding.

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Speaker 8: Kevin Byron, Joe Tooney, Grady probably have ten or twelve

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Speaker 8: guys that are really lean into on a weekly basis

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Speaker 8: just to get a pulse of the team, and they

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Speaker 8: do a really good job of keeping the main thing

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Speaker 8: the main thing in the locker room.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't think you can go six

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Speaker 1: and one in close games. Kansas City last year was

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Speaker 1: great and close games. You gotta a good locker room.

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Speaker 1: It's not just the coach in the quarterback. You gotta

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Speaker 1: gotta have a good room, you know. I mean when

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Speaker 1: you get when you get in close games and you

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Speaker 1: trail late, and you watch Kansas City against the Colts

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Speaker 1: this weekend. I think Chicago's got a really good locker room.

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Speaker 1: And I also think their secondary is a little bit

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Speaker 1: better than people think they take the ball away. They

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Speaker 1: got their DB's cats like wide receivers. But I will

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Speaker 1: tell you Matt Hasselbeck has yet to buy in, and

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Speaker 1: his opinion is one I hear a lot privately around

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Speaker 1: the NFL on Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 5: I guess where I'm not like putting him in the

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Speaker 5: Hall of Fame and fitting him for a gold jacket

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Speaker 5: like you want to do. I just don't think this

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Speaker 5: Bears team has played anybody quite yet. Now we will

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Speaker 5: get to know who this Bears team is because the

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Speaker 5: you know, five of the next six games or whatever

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Speaker 5: are against teams that are way better than the teams

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Speaker 5: that they beat. They haven't beat great teams. I think

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Speaker 5: this is Ben Johnson has proven he is a great

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Speaker 5: coach and he's the guy. If someone can take him

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Speaker 5: to that next level, I think Ben Johnson would be

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Speaker 5: the guy.

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Speaker 1: I want to go back and again, I think Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: off a loss. Nothing pulls a locker room together like

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Speaker 1: blowing a three touchdown lead in the game and losing

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Speaker 1: New Arrival. So it's going to be an angry, intense

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Speaker 1: week of practice in Philadelphia. And the last time we

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Speaker 1: saw the Bears really go east to Baltimore. They lost

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Speaker 1: to Tyler Huntley. So I think the Bears are a

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Speaker 1: good team. Are they a heard hierarchy team. We'll see

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Speaker 1: they're not a great team. And they have beaten bad

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Speaker 1: teams in close games. That's okay. Winning is winning. Denver's

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Speaker 1: winning a lot of close games some over bad teams.

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Speaker 1: Winning is winning. So I want to go back to something.

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Speaker 1: My set at the top of the show is I

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Speaker 1: really think brock Perty's fine, but if you make more

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Speaker 1: than Mahomes and Stafford, I'm going to hold you to

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Speaker 1: a different level. Cam Ward is not winning games. I

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Speaker 1: thought he played great this weekend. Nobody's trying to convince

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Speaker 1: me cam Ward is great. Bryce Young is mid, but

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Speaker 1: nobody's trying to convince me he's not. Jay mackettn't the

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Speaker 1: only person that keeps telling me in this guy's special.

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Speaker 1: And I do think there's something to be said. He's

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Speaker 1: not been good necessarily. I think he puts pressure on himself.

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Speaker 1: And I'll give you an example. In the early Sunday window,

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Speaker 1: brock Purty is Tom Brady. Now, obviously, in the early

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Speaker 1: Sunday window, you play a lot of Carolinas, you play

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Speaker 1: a lot of Atlantas. You play a lot of Arizona.

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Speaker 1: You know, you play average teams in the early window.

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Speaker 1: By and large, the NFL puts the better teams late

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Speaker 1: Fox window Sunday night, Monday night, Thursday. They want some

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Speaker 1: marquee quarterbacks in the early Sunday window. In his career,

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Speaker 1: brock Purty has eleven touchdowns, two picks, and a one

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Speaker 1: to ten passer rating. He is elite. Those are elite

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Speaker 1: numbers on Monday Night football when the league's watching, and

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Speaker 1: I think he wants to put on a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a show. He puts pressure on himself. Not showing off,

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Speaker 1: but he puts pressure on himself. He gets a little

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Speaker 1: more reckless. Five touchdowns, eleven picks, seventy five passer rating,

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Speaker 1: and generally you play better teams. Last was an exception.

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Speaker 1: Caroline is not in standalone games very much, even in Charlotte. Okay,

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Speaker 1: they're just not so you know again, I think he's

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Speaker 1: got a bad toe and he's just not gonna He's

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Speaker 1: just not the kind of kid. He's a good kid,

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Speaker 1: good family. He's not gonna go out and say make

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Speaker 1: excuses and play a victim. He's not going to do that.

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Speaker 1: I mean I think it's pretty obvious if you watched

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Speaker 1: him last night. He's not getting velocity in his ball,

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Speaker 1: and he doesn't have a bad arm. He didn't have

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Speaker 1: a great arm, but his arm is good enough. And

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Speaker 1: he's a very aggressive player, which I like. That's the

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Speaker 1: thing I like about him. He's a smart kid. He's

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Speaker 1: a good kid, and he's aggressive, like he'll throw the

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Speaker 1: ball down the field, he'll throw picks. But if you

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Speaker 1: watch the interceptions last night, that is not brock pretty though.

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Speaker 1: Those interceptions were the ball hung, it was behind. It

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Speaker 1: was the same interception three times. It was literally the

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Speaker 1: same interception three times, and it was a velocity issue.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't necessarily accuracy, it was just a velocity in you

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Speaker 1: the ball hung. So I think he's too good of

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Speaker 1: a kid to say my toe's terrible. He's not going

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Speaker 1: to do that, but you can't tell me. It's like

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's the same way. Lamar's never going to play

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Speaker 1: a victim. Lamar's never going to say I'm not healthy.

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Speaker 1: It's just not who Lamar is. He's too competitive and

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Speaker 1: Brock super competitive. Lamar Jackson watch him, he is not

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent brock perty is not one hundred percent,

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Speaker 1: but he wants to play. Kyle wants him to play.

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Speaker 1: And if your substitutes playing his arsof you want to

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Speaker 1: get out there and take the job back. Herd hierarchy

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Speaker 1: Nick right next,