WEBVTT - Get the Money and Run | Two Too Many

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Loyer has agreed to answer our questions, so please

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<v Speaker 1>send yours to info at Orbitmedia dot fm or leave

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<v Speaker 1>them in the comments on Spotify or Apple. Thank you. Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>there is Steve Fishman from Orbit Media. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>Get the Money and Run. You're going to love today's

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<v Speaker 1>episode five. It's the beginning of something, and that beginning

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<v Speaker 1>starts with Joe surrounded shouting at a crowd stay out

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Well spoiler alert, that doesn't happen. Okay, over

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<v Speaker 1>to Ben.

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<v Speaker 2>You are listening to The Burden season four, Get the

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<v Speaker 2>Money and Run, I'm bender and this is episode five,

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<v Speaker 2>two too many.

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<v Speaker 3>Joe tell me about the money? What was it like

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<v Speaker 3>having all that money?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so one time I had fifty thousand dollars in

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<v Speaker 4>a sports bag underneath my bed and I decide, you

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<v Speaker 4>know what I want to see with this money? Looks

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<v Speaker 4>like I was stacked out. I would periodically I take

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<v Speaker 4>it out and count it, and I would count it

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<v Speaker 4>on my bed. So i'd count all the money. I'm excited,

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<v Speaker 4>like that's fifty thousand plus. And then I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>well fuck it. So I slide it all around the

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<v Speaker 4>bed and move it all and I may assume my

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<v Speaker 4>whole bed's money. And it's not a lot of money, like,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not thick, it's not like I'm you know, it's

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<v Speaker 4>like a pillow of money. But it's enough to spread

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<v Speaker 4>all over the place. And so I spread it out

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<v Speaker 4>and I decide I'm gonna do that cheesy thing where

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<v Speaker 4>you lie down in it, like you've seen in every

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<v Speaker 4>movie or a TV show where people were like, get

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<v Speaker 4>all this money. You know, I've been raised poor. It's

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of fucking money to look at. And so

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<v Speaker 4>I lie down on it. I'll fall flat on it,

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<v Speaker 4>just drop on it, flip over, and I'm lying on it.

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<v Speaker 4>Very quickly, I started realizing, ah, shit, I think I

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<v Speaker 4>stepped on shit because I smell shit in my room,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm like, oh, now, I do that like a

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<v Speaker 4>real pungent, fucking craps, like someone chunk of deuce right there.

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<v Speaker 4>So I get up and immediately I look at the

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<v Speaker 4>bottom of my shoes. It's no shit. I look around, like,

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<v Speaker 4>what is that smell of shit? Man? I can't find it,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's driving me crazy, and I'm smelling my fingers

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<v Speaker 4>and I realized, oh, oh, it's a little faint something

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<v Speaker 4>there and I look down at the money and I

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<v Speaker 4>have a realization, oh shit, might be the money. I

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<v Speaker 4>get on my knees. I've been forward, put my face

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<v Speaker 4>all around it, and like, oh fuck, yes it's the money, man,

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<v Speaker 4>the money. Just people wipe their ass and they go

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<v Speaker 4>and they pull money out and they just their hands.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a dirty, fuck grubby hands on all this money.

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<v Speaker 4>Imagine all the people whose greasy hands have been on

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<v Speaker 4>this thing. Right, it smells like someone dumped a grumpy

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<v Speaker 4>right there. Man. It was terrible. It was like, oh fuck,

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<v Speaker 4>this money's gross. It was surprising. Man, money stinks. Money

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<v Speaker 4>fucking stinks. Part one?

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<v Speaker 3>Who me after all those banks? I'm sure you've been

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<v Speaker 3>wondering how far can one bank ropper go. It starts

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<v Speaker 3>at the Bank of America. Of course, it's in a

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<v Speaker 3>parking lot of them all in a suburb of La

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<v Speaker 3>called Cerritos.

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<v Speaker 4>So a couple of interesting notes about this bank. One,

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<v Speaker 4>I was able to rob two women that day, where

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<v Speaker 4>I robbed one and then the other teller next to

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<v Speaker 4>leaned over to ask her question. I was like, send

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<v Speaker 4>them money over to so like she sent money over

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<v Speaker 4>and was having to rob too. So it was like, really, aggressive.

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<v Speaker 4>The other interesting thing about here is that into this bank,

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<v Speaker 4>I wore two sweatshirts to bulk me up, to make

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<v Speaker 4>me look bulky. So when I go in there baseball

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<v Speaker 4>cap whatever, and I rob them, I look big. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>bulked up from the sweatshirts stuff. When I run in

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<v Speaker 4>my car, I get in the car, I drive away

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<v Speaker 4>from here. I pull over inside of the street and

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<v Speaker 4>I take off all his clothes underneath, and I have

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<v Speaker 4>a pair of shorts. I have a U c l

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<v Speaker 4>A tank top. I have a U sl A hat on.

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<v Speaker 4>Now I take all my clothes up and now I'm

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<v Speaker 4>wearing sneakers, not our topsiders, not the other shoes I

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<v Speaker 4>was wearing. So I got more of like a collegiate

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<v Speaker 4>look thing. And I put all the clothes in the

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<v Speaker 4>bag and I throw it in a rain ditch. So

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<v Speaker 4>I get on the free one. As I get on

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<v Speaker 4>the freeway and I go over to the to the

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<v Speaker 4>fast lane, I almost crashed in at three sheriff's cars froom.

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<v Speaker 4>I almost literally almost crashing it because I'm not looking

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<v Speaker 4>in my mirror. I just don't say it's empty. But

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<v Speaker 4>they're coming on so fast that I just were and

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<v Speaker 4>I dodge them, and I look ahead and I realized

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<v Speaker 4>they're racing to where a helicopter is ahead in the freeway.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, shit, I gotta get off the freeway. So

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<v Speaker 4>I start pulling over off the freeway and then start

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<v Speaker 4>pulling over off the freeway. I get off with the

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<v Speaker 4>next off round and I turn right into traffic. Right

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, okay, cool, I just dodged a bullet. All

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<v Speaker 4>of a sudden, sheriff cars all around me. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know where they came from, and they're all stopping a

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<v Speaker 4>turkey jerky and they're looking at everyone in the cars,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm thinking, I'm good because I don't look like

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<v Speaker 4>the guy who walked out of that bank. In fact,

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<v Speaker 4>as soon as I feel the helicopter's overhead, I open

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<v Speaker 4>my son roofs so they can look in and they

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<v Speaker 4>can say, I'm in short so I'm not even wearing pants.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't feel like I look like that guy at all.

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<v Speaker 4>So all that to say, and I'm driving, I'm driving

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<v Speaker 4>and cars as I'm driving down the road on the

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<v Speaker 4>right left side, police cars are looking at me. They're

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<v Speaker 4>just parked, and then as I would drive past them,

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<v Speaker 4>they would join a crowd growing, crowded cop cars behind me,

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<v Speaker 4>so it's like they're looking at me. And then as

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<v Speaker 4>I pulled past them, they would then turn into traffic

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<v Speaker 4>from the left and the right. I'm driving, I'm just chilling.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just relaxing, just taking my time, being easy. And

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<v Speaker 4>then what are you thinking about all these cop cars

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<v Speaker 4>behind you? I'm thinking, why are they Why do they

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<v Speaker 4>think it's me? I have no clue, but I do

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<v Speaker 4>know as I'm driving there's now fifteen twenty cars behind

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<v Speaker 4>me it's me. They've isolated me. And there's a car

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<v Speaker 4>pulls up to my left and he looks at me,

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<v Speaker 4>and I look at him, and I just keep driving.

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<v Speaker 4>I caught another car pulls up to my right to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Do they have sirens going?

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<v Speaker 4>Like? Is it No?

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<v Speaker 3>They're just following all right.

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<v Speaker 4>Then the guy pulls up to the right of me,

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<v Speaker 4>and then he pulls behind and now they're all following me.

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<v Speaker 4>And then the hell cops in front of me, and

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<v Speaker 4>he starts going low and they put their lights on

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<v Speaker 4>and the yell pull over. So I feel like, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>this is a racist rush to judgment, you know, because

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<v Speaker 4>there's no way that I look like the guy, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm thinking, I'm gonna fucking fight this in court because

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<v Speaker 4>why are they stopping me. There's no reason to stop me.

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<v Speaker 4>They just targeted a Mexican dude. That's the way I'm

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<v Speaker 4>thinking about it, right. So I pull over. They all

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<v Speaker 4>have stepped out of their cars. They got guns pointing

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<v Speaker 4>at me. I could see it in my mirrors. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not going anywhere. Helicopters on the road in front of

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<v Speaker 4>me low, so I know that, okay, there is I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not getting away and this is gonna be what it's

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<v Speaker 4>gonna be. And I start yelling why do you stop me?

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<v Speaker 4>And the helicopters are going He's shut the fuck out,

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<v Speaker 4>put your hands behind your head, and I'm like, why

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<v Speaker 4>do you stop me? Like I said, shut the fuck out?

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<v Speaker 4>And that takes the fuck and the whole time he's

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<v Speaker 4>giving me instruction is to walk back, to walk to

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<v Speaker 4>my left in the middle of the street, to put

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<v Speaker 4>my arms out, to get on my knees, to all forward. Everything.

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<v Speaker 4>I keep interrupted, why did you stop me? Because I'm

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<v Speaker 4>convinced this is a legal stop. And at that point

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<v Speaker 4>I feel them running at me and I'm laid out

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<v Speaker 4>on the on the ground, my legs open, my arms wide,

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<v Speaker 4>my face down, and they jump on me. I mean

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<v Speaker 4>they jump on me, and they're they're like mad at me,

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<v Speaker 4>and I feel guns on me, I feel knees on me.

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<v Speaker 4>They're grabbing my hands and trumping them and one guy

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<v Speaker 4>grabs my head now remember, and they're on me. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>trying to pull my arms back and I'm not resisting.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, I'm fucked right. So he pulls my head

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<v Speaker 4>back and I swear to God, I thought he's gonna

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<v Speaker 4>choke me up because I can barely breathe. And he

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<v Speaker 4>leans into my ears says, you want to know why

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<v Speaker 4>we stopped you, cocksucker. We stopped him from being ugly

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<v Speaker 4>and ro walk so and you know what, I'm thinking, like,

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<v Speaker 4>that's kind of fucking clever. This sms a bitch, that's

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<v Speaker 4>kind of fucking clever. So I'm seated there and they

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<v Speaker 4>put me on a cop right in the back of

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<v Speaker 4>a cup car. They now approached my car where the

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<v Speaker 4>gun's drawn, Like, oh, I'm running at the car and

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<v Speaker 4>not running but you know, coming together the helicopter overhead.

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<v Speaker 4>There's just someone in there. They don't know. And when

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<v Speaker 4>they go in they see you know he's in there.

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<v Speaker 4>They open the door, they reach in the back, they

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<v Speaker 4>pull out the bag, and they hold up the bag

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<v Speaker 4>of money like a price fish and he says, got it.

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<v Speaker 4>And I look at it, and the guy says to me,

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<v Speaker 4>who has the coppers in the front seat. He says,

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<v Speaker 4>you're a dumb fuck man. He says, we caught you

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<v Speaker 4>with the transmitter and the money. They bring the two

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<v Speaker 4>women I had robbed, and they bring them to where

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<v Speaker 4>I am standing on the sidewalk and then make them

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<v Speaker 4>look at me. While I did the I just turned

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<v Speaker 4>around to my left, to my right, and they told

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<v Speaker 4>me don't look at them. And I wasn't trying to

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<v Speaker 4>break the rules. But when I looked look straight ahead

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<v Speaker 4>and they were there, I could see from the side

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<v Speaker 4>of my eyes that their heads were saying, no, that's

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<v Speaker 4>not the guy, right. So I knew I had play.

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<v Speaker 4>I knew that these women did not recognize me as

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<v Speaker 4>the guy who had just robbed them within the last

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<v Speaker 4>half hour. So they can only arrest me for possession

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<v Speaker 4>of stolen property.

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<v Speaker 3>So, but you're arrested. You were taking to LA share

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<v Speaker 3>station not too far away in Lynnwood, California. What was

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<v Speaker 3>your plan. This time.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm in a holding cell with other criminals. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>oh fuck, I know what to do. Boom all right

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<v Speaker 4>again the phone, Paul, give it of all photos of

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<v Speaker 4>my house. Like, I feel like they have guys gonna

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<v Speaker 4>go to my house and they're gonna get photos and

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<v Speaker 4>against thee all my friends, against these photos of me,

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<v Speaker 4>and they're gonna compare the photos of me to the

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<v Speaker 4>photos they've taken from all the surveillance cameras. So I

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<v Speaker 4>don't want to match from any of them at all.

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<v Speaker 4>I say, get all my photos out of the house

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<v Speaker 4>and get whatever cash you can find in the house

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<v Speaker 4>and go take it at Gloria and have him come

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<v Speaker 4>down here and bail me out. So I got twelve

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<v Speaker 4>hours and I'm waiting to get bailed on, waiting to

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<v Speaker 4>get bailed on, way to get bailed in that time.

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<v Speaker 4>I get pulled out of the holding cell. I got

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<v Speaker 4>taken to a room and in walks this real burly guy,

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<v Speaker 4>special agent Quarters, puts a notebook down, opens it up,

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<v Speaker 4>and he just starts to ask me questions. What's your name,

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<v Speaker 4>first name, middle name, last name, how old are you,

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<v Speaker 4>where'd you go to school? Just basic information. They get

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<v Speaker 4>all this information from me. And it's not an interrogation,

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<v Speaker 4>it's just he wants to assess me. And I'm polite

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm articulate, and I'm not trying to be friendly

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<v Speaker 4>with him, but I'm he's getting to read on me, like,

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<v Speaker 4>this guy doesn't look like bank rubbers at all. Nothing

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<v Speaker 4>about me, says bank rubber. But he suspects I had

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<v Speaker 4>something to do with it because I was caught with

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<v Speaker 4>the money. And then he finally says, so, the women

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<v Speaker 4>who were robbed, say, you didn't rob the bank. You're

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<v Speaker 4>not the one who robbed them. But how did you

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<v Speaker 4>get ahold of that money? Because that's the bank money.

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<v Speaker 4>I said, man, I'm glad you asked. And I proceeded

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<v Speaker 4>to lie and tell him that, you know, I went

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<v Speaker 4>out to go shopping Macy's in that mall near where

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<v Speaker 4>the bank was, and I got out and I realized,

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<v Speaker 4>oh shit, I left my wall in the car. And

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<v Speaker 4>I go back to my car and I see this

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<v Speaker 4>true big burly man wearing exactly the outfit I was

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<v Speaker 4>wearing the bank. I described me saying, this big burly

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<v Speaker 4>man runs out and he throws something underneath my car

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<v Speaker 4>and I wonder what the fuck, and I pull it

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<v Speaker 4>out and it's all this money. So I'm like fuck

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<v Speaker 4>it and I drive away. Next thing I know, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Lindwood Sheriff's are pulling me up. And then oh wow,

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<v Speaker 4>totally I didn't do it. Totally plausible. Here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 4>He knows my record. There's it's not like he knows

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<v Speaker 4>he's dealing with somebody who's done this before. So he

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't know exactly what to think other than I don't

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<v Speaker 4>look like a bank robber. That's that's one thing he's

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<v Speaker 4>sure of. He's been the business long enough to know

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<v Speaker 4>I don't look like it. But he's also criminals are

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<v Speaker 4>lying sons of bitches. They will lie gratuitously, they will

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<v Speaker 4>lie often and a lot. So that's what that was

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<v Speaker 4>my first introduction to him.

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<v Speaker 3>So what happened was there like an arrangement.

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<v Speaker 4>They drive me to downtown to the federal courthouse, and

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<v Speaker 4>while we're driving there, he says, we know who you

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<v Speaker 4>are now. He said, mister Joel Steve, we know who

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<v Speaker 4>you are.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>We're gonna put you in court and it's not gonna

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<v Speaker 4>look good for you. We're at sixteen banks in County

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<v Speaker 4>we know who you are. Believe me. I go to court. Man.

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<v Speaker 4>They did that dramatic thing where they pull something over

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<v Speaker 4>and all of a sudden that ah, sixteen pictures of

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<v Speaker 4>a guy walking out of a bank and various clothing

0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:11.360
<v Speaker 4>and you know the photos you've seen, and a monk,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and a monk, Mickey mouse shirt, plaid shirt,

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<v Speaker 4>sue trans coat, fedora, all of it. Sixteen photos. This

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<v Speaker 4>is the same. We're still counting your honor. We will

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<v Speaker 4>give him bail now. We can have one hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 4>dollars bail for two weeks. We're trying to get bail.

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<v Speaker 4>It takes a long time to clear my my aunt's house,

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<v Speaker 4>to put it up. It just it took a lot

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<v Speaker 4>longer than I expected. It was almost two weeks to

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<v Speaker 4>get it.

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<v Speaker 3>And so that way, if you leave and don't come back,

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<v Speaker 3>if you run away to Mexico or something like that, they.

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<v Speaker 4>Have the house.

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<v Speaker 3>She loses her home. Yeah, and so your aunt is

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<v Speaker 3>telling you that she's going to do this. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 3>what are you thinking as she's telling you this?

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<v Speaker 4>Honestly, I think I'm thinking, fuck this, I'm not coming back.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll just give her money to replace the house. I'll

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<v Speaker 4>rob enough to give a new hospital. I'm not coming back.

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<v Speaker 4>I think. I think there's certainly. At one point I

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<v Speaker 4>thought that, and then we get it. I get out,

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<v Speaker 4>I make bail, and I proceed to rob five more banks.

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<v Speaker 3>Will be right back.

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<v Speaker 1>Part two.

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<v Speaker 2>It takes two.

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<v Speaker 4>Now I figure out, you know what, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 4>to go to prison. And this is where me. I

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<v Speaker 4>was already in an asshole. I was a bad person

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<v Speaker 4>in society. It was just a thief. It was kind

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<v Speaker 4>of shit. And I decided to like up my ship

0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:53.240
<v Speaker 4>game by putting my aunt's house in jeopardy because my

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<v Speaker 4>emperor house up for me to go on bail my

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<v Speaker 4>aunt and she loved me, and I was willing to

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<v Speaker 4>risk it. Oh I didn't care. And so what I

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<v Speaker 4>do is I get somebody who I used to play

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<v Speaker 4>golf with who resembled me. Person was about four inches

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<v Speaker 4>shorter than me. And this person was desperate for money.

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<v Speaker 4>I always took him around, always paid stuff for him.

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<v Speaker 4>I liked having him around, and it's like, you want

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<v Speaker 4>to eventually get something on this, and he was like yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And finally, when I come out of bond, I go

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<v Speaker 4>to this guy and say, hey, listen, I'll teach you

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<v Speaker 4>how to do this and we'll split the money. He says, really,

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<v Speaker 4>I said yeah, but you have to do it exactly

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<v Speaker 4>as I say. He's like sure because he's, like I said,

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<v Speaker 4>he had seen the loads of cash I had, so

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<v Speaker 4>to him, he's thinking thirty forty fifty thousand dollars he

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<v Speaker 4>could be his Well, I take him to go do it,

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<v Speaker 4>go to Orange County somewhere. He goes into the bank.

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<v Speaker 4>After I tell him what to do, I park far away,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, my mo He runs through the car, drive away.

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<v Speaker 4>We're going fast. I'm all excited. He's breathing hard. It's like, whoa,

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<v Speaker 4>this is great. I don't have to rob banks. I

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<v Speaker 4>got a guy who can rob banks for me. We'll

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<v Speaker 4>split the money and like, I can make some money here.

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<v Speaker 4>And we're driving on. Finally, so how much you get?

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<v Speaker 4>He goes, oh, I didn't get nothing. She told me no,

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<v Speaker 4>He said she told him no, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>oh my god, this guy is so bad. So I

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<v Speaker 4>pulled over and I said, here's what happened last night.

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<v Speaker 4>They came into your house. They went upstairs, they got

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<v Speaker 4>your pants, they took your wallet out, they grabbed all

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<v Speaker 4>your money. They got your money in that bank, in

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<v Speaker 4>that teller station, is your money. You have the right

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<v Speaker 4>to go in there and basically take your money back.

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<v Speaker 4>You have the moral right to go to that mine.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the way I tried to pump them up for it.

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<v Speaker 4>So I take them to this mall where they have

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<v Speaker 4>a bank in the on my park. He goes inside.

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<v Speaker 4>Whatever lame thing he's putting out, people are picking it up.

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<v Speaker 4>Apparently he was good enough to at least get some

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<v Speaker 4>money from them, because as soon as he hits that door,

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<v Speaker 4>he's still holding the money in his hands, and he's

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<v Speaker 4>holding it to his chest. And when he pushes that

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<v Speaker 4>door open, an eddie of air catches that money. The

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<v Speaker 4>money goes flying everywhere, whirling in the air, and there's

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<v Speaker 4>him trying to catch it out of mid air. And

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<v Speaker 4>I look at him and I'm thinking, what a fucking idiot.

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<v Speaker 4>So I have to drive away. And as I'm driving away,

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<v Speaker 4>I look back and he's running and now it is

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<v Speaker 4>a Benny Hill fucking skid. There's one dude and there's

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<v Speaker 4>a crowd of people running after out of the bank.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, oh shit. So I crossed street, this big

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<v Speaker 4>boulevard out of the parking lot, and I park and

0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:06.359
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, come on, come on, and I'm looking in

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<v Speaker 4>my rear view mare, and I see him coming. He runs,

0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:11.920
<v Speaker 4>he jumps in the seat next to me, and he's

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<v Speaker 4>so short that all they see is one person in

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<v Speaker 4>this car. It's important to the story. I'm too far

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<v Speaker 4>from them to catch me. I'm too far for them

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<v Speaker 4>to even see my license plate. And it tries to

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<v Speaker 4>come after us, but I'm in a fucking little RG seven,

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<v Speaker 4>and I just I do sports car stad I take

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<v Speaker 4>off and I'm going so fast down this residential street.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's a long residential street, so I'm picking him speed.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going fast, and then I see a dip coming,

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<v Speaker 4>so I break and down shift and I try to

0:19:42.440 --> 0:19:45.280
<v Speaker 4>throw it down. I hit that thing going eighty and

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<v Speaker 4>I fly in the air and when I land, I

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<v Speaker 4>land so hard that I think my car is gonna fall,

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<v Speaker 4>Like wow, I fall apart. It doesn't fall apart, but

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<v Speaker 4>I know for sure my oil pan has burnt. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>I broke it a busted and there's no way my

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<v Speaker 4>oil pens are surviving this. I turned right and now

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<v Speaker 4>I'm out of this residential area into another big street.

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<v Speaker 4>So I said, get out of here, get yourself back home.

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<v Speaker 4>He jumps out. I turn right now my car bee,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean like I'm in danger. I jump out of

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<v Speaker 4>my car. I cross the street back to this side

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<v Speaker 4>of the street, and I go into Sir George's Morgas

0:20:26.440 --> 0:20:35.200
<v Speaker 4>board and a cop car comes up, slows down, puts

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<v Speaker 4>his lights on in front of my car, comes up,

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<v Speaker 4>puts his hand on the hood. He feels his hot.

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<v Speaker 4>There's smoke coming out of my car. And I walk

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<v Speaker 4>right through the kitchen at the back door and I

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<v Speaker 4>hit an alley and I start running. And I'm running

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<v Speaker 4>down this alley because my car is busted. I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>getting back to my car. And now they know I'm

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<v Speaker 4>in the area, I'm running out of there. I get

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<v Speaker 4>out of there. I have my brother picked me up

0:21:04.760 --> 0:21:12.159
<v Speaker 4>in Orange County come home that night, so we I

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<v Speaker 4>was fortunate to be driving by right when they're raiding

0:21:14.359 --> 0:21:17.080
<v Speaker 4>my house. Are those cops all over my house? Are

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<v Speaker 4>all creeping in on my house because the FBI is

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<v Speaker 4>now going to rescind my bail. They know I had

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<v Speaker 4>something to do with that bank. They think I actually

0:21:24.359 --> 0:21:27.000
<v Speaker 4>robbed the bank, and as we drove, I could see

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<v Speaker 4>police construng sneaking up on my house around the back gate.

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<v Speaker 4>Turn around. I called my dad and say, hey, Dad,

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<v Speaker 4>what's up? Because I knew my dad was close to

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<v Speaker 4>the FBI EG and it was you know after me

0:21:42.440 --> 0:21:46.560
<v Speaker 4>that kind of bonded and so what's up? He says,

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<v Speaker 4>turn yourself in. So I turned yourself in, especially your

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<v Speaker 4>quarters called. He said you robbed that bank. He knows

0:21:51.119 --> 0:21:53.000
<v Speaker 4>you robbed the bank. I said, nope, did not rub

0:21:53.040 --> 0:21:56.000
<v Speaker 4>that bank. Swear on mommy's grave. I did not rob

0:21:56.040 --> 0:21:58.560
<v Speaker 4>that bank, really, I said my dad, I saw on

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<v Speaker 4>mommy's grave. He goes, right, let me call, let me

0:22:00.920 --> 0:22:04.720
<v Speaker 4>call Cordis. So Cordis tells my dad, Hey, have Joe

0:22:04.760 --> 0:22:08.520
<v Speaker 4>call me. So I call him and I and he said, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>we found your car, says Cordis. I wasn't in that bank.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't rie that bank. And I'm not gonna turn

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<v Speaker 4>myself in because it took me two weeks to get

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<v Speaker 4>bond and I don't want to wait another two weeks

0:22:18.640 --> 0:22:20.680
<v Speaker 4>in there for your mistake. I was not in there.

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<v Speaker 4>And he said, okay, Well here's I'm gonna do for you, Joe.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna go look at the footage, and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 4>call me tomorrow and I'll tell you what I see. Now.

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<v Speaker 4>Banks the way there, because banks are designed, they could

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<v Speaker 4>tell how tall you are by where you are on

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<v Speaker 4>the counter, all those little signs in the lobby. The

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<v Speaker 4>next day, I call him and he says, you need

0:22:44.440 --> 0:22:47.680
<v Speaker 4>to talk to your lawyer's Joe. He said, really, He goes, yeah,

0:22:47.720 --> 0:22:50.560
<v Speaker 4>because you have a double out there. This person's like

0:22:50.560 --> 0:22:54.000
<v Speaker 4>four inches shorter than you. He says, So I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>gonna talk to you about why your cars in the

0:22:55.920 --> 0:23:01.160
<v Speaker 4>area broke down, but I will not send your bond

0:23:01.800 --> 0:23:04.760
<v Speaker 4>because that was not you. I said, thank you. I

0:23:04.800 --> 0:23:05.360
<v Speaker 4>told you that.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll be right back. Part three, Last time Out. Joe,

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<v Speaker 3>tell me about the last bank you ever robbed.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so it was an Oxnard and I was a fugitive. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I'd been robbing banks on the run, and I wanted

0:23:35.520 --> 0:23:37.720
<v Speaker 4>to make this money. I want to make some money

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<v Speaker 4>to leave to my girlfriend before I left the country.

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<v Speaker 4>So I go to Oxnard, park my car on the

0:23:48.720 --> 0:23:52.440
<v Speaker 4>main road in a like a gas station parking lot,

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<v Speaker 4>so you can't see me from the front door of

0:23:54.400 --> 0:23:57.399
<v Speaker 4>the bank at all, not at all, but there's a

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<v Speaker 4>big park. It's kind of in a mall area, and

0:24:00.640 --> 0:24:02.240
<v Speaker 4>the kind of parking lot that had a lot of

0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:07.399
<v Speaker 4>little islands in it. So I walk into the bank.

0:24:07.920 --> 0:24:11.400
<v Speaker 4>Very simple robbery. I go in there, I rob him.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm walking out, and as I'm walking, I turn around

0:24:13.720 --> 0:24:17.520
<v Speaker 4>to walk equal distance to the front door. But on

0:24:17.600 --> 0:24:23.719
<v Speaker 4>the other side outside is an armored car carrier like

0:24:23.800 --> 0:24:27.199
<v Speaker 4>he's carrying cash in a bag and he's walking to it,

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<v Speaker 4>and I can see the armor car park behind him.

0:24:31.040 --> 0:24:33.960
<v Speaker 4>So I walk to it and I just keep my cool,

0:24:34.040 --> 0:24:36.960
<v Speaker 4>like what the fuck, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna

0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:39.480
<v Speaker 4>play it, you know, like what, I'm not gonna panic.

0:24:39.520 --> 0:24:41.720
<v Speaker 4>I gotta get out of here. So I walk to

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<v Speaker 4>the door, and I'm thinking, who's gonna open the door,

0:24:43.920 --> 0:24:45.800
<v Speaker 4>Who's gonna get there first. I mean, we're good distance

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<v Speaker 4>of wage. It gives me plenty of time to think,

0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:50.359
<v Speaker 4>like I was just gonna play out. He gets the

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<v Speaker 4>door and he opens it and he holds it for me,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm like, oh, hey, thanks, and I walk right

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<v Speaker 4>through the door. Thank you, walk away, and he walks in.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't look behind me, but I know that as

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<v Speaker 4>soon as he walks in. Somebody is gonna say that

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<v Speaker 4>guy just robbed us. I don't hear it, because what

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<v Speaker 4>I hear is just blood in my ears. Boom boom,

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<v Speaker 4>boom boom. Because now I look at the guy in

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<v Speaker 4>the in the armor car, and he's looking at me

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<v Speaker 4>because he has to watch his friend's back going in,

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<v Speaker 4>and he's looking at me. And I got sunglasses, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm walking on and I'm walking out with a stride,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think he picks something up. But almost as

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<v Speaker 4>soon as that guy gets inside the door, I take

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of steps and then I just start booking. Man.

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<v Speaker 4>I just start running fast as I can. I gotta

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<v Speaker 4>get him my car. And sure enough I hear the truck.

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<v Speaker 4>I grumble up, and I'm just running, running, running. Now.

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<v Speaker 4>As I'm running, you know, periodically I do look back

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<v Speaker 4>to just se where he is, and that's when I

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<v Speaker 4>realize he can't come straight after me. He has to

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<v Speaker 4>like drive around this island and get around this other island,

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<v Speaker 4>like he's having a his way out of the maze

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<v Speaker 4>of the parking lot. And I run. Now I'm across

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<v Speaker 4>the street, and now I get to my car, and

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<v Speaker 4>I don't feel like I'm gonna make it like I know,

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<v Speaker 4>this thing is way closer than anything has ever been

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<v Speaker 4>in my car. In fact, I start my car, back

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<v Speaker 4>it up, drive away, and I got a little mas

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<v Speaker 4>art et cent. I take out up the street and

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<v Speaker 4>I see it come around the corner and it's picking

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<v Speaker 4>up speed, and I'm like, this thing is has enough

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<v Speaker 4>speed with it that it's actually catching me for a second,

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<v Speaker 4>and then it pulls away and I go over the

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<v Speaker 4>freeway and I'm driving back to La now and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>driving down the road and I'm like, good, I got

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<v Speaker 4>the money. I got away. Everything's cool. Wouldn't be till

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<v Speaker 4>later that I realized I hadn't really got away even close.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm on the West Side, staying at a hotel right

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<v Speaker 4>out the full five off sunset, and I know that

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<v Speaker 4>I want to meet my girlfriend at Ucla that day

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<v Speaker 4>to give her some money because I'm gonna I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 4>go back to Mexico.

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<v Speaker 3>That was gonna be it right, like they're gonna be.

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<v Speaker 4>It's gonna be in the wind. So I get in

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<v Speaker 4>my car. I'm driving down Sunset. I'm coming to Ucla

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<v Speaker 4>the back way, and I see a motorcycle cop right

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<v Speaker 4>behind the bushes, hiding in Like if I drive in,

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<v Speaker 4>he's seeing who's coming in and out. And I think

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<v Speaker 4>that's that's odd because they know that they're gonna be

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<v Speaker 4>following my girlfriend. I'm gonna still be I'm cannier than them,

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<v Speaker 4>right like I I'm not gonna drive in. Fuck them.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't know how good I am. Watch this. So

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<v Speaker 4>I drive into Westwood and I drive in a downtown

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<v Speaker 4>Westwood park, my car inside of Parker Rodgers to no

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<v Speaker 4>helicopter confind my car just by flying over all. I'm thinking,

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<v Speaker 4>is okay? So what they're looking for a car? You

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<v Speaker 4>know how many thousands of thousands of thousands of students.

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<v Speaker 4>They're not going to find need on a haystack, right right,

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<v Speaker 4>So I get I decided to walk into the campus.

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<v Speaker 4>I walk into the campus. Now behind the library there

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<v Speaker 4>they have vending machines and table, big metal tables, and

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<v Speaker 4>it was tightly packed with students when I was there,

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<v Speaker 4>so you know, you figure eight tables, five people per

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<v Speaker 4>table or whatever, and there's a lot of people there.

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<v Speaker 4>So I decided to get some coffee whatever cappuccino, and

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<v Speaker 4>off the machine and I'm reading my Wall Street Journal

0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:42.080
<v Speaker 4>and I'm looking around, and then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 4>I hear Joe, Joe Loya. I turn my left and

0:28:50.160 --> 0:28:55.200
<v Speaker 4>I see this guy, you know, just milk toast, white guy, glasses, shorts,

0:28:55.640 --> 0:28:57.920
<v Speaker 4>you sell a sweatshirt. But I don't recognize them. So

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<v Speaker 4>I just turned back to my newspaper, Joe Joe, and

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<v Speaker 4>all of a sudden, he realizes I'm that and he's

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<v Speaker 4>trying to catch her in. I don't look again. I

0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:06.120
<v Speaker 4>don't look, but I realize, oh shit, I'm fun this.

0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:09.480
<v Speaker 4>I might be fucked. And at that moment, I feel

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<v Speaker 4>somebody like behind me, not him, he's still over there,

0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:18.640
<v Speaker 4>and I feel this person behind me, so I jump up.

0:29:18.680 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 4>I throw my chair back, and this person grabs my

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<v Speaker 4>wrist with one hand and the back of my elbow

0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:28.160
<v Speaker 4>with another, like you just try to try to control me.

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<v Speaker 4>And he's now on me. He jumps on my left

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm hitting him. He's like, FBI, you're under wrest

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:39.480
<v Speaker 4>and I'm listening for other FBI agents to come, so

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<v Speaker 4>it'd be like, oh, Dad, get your hands up, you know.

0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:45.640
<v Speaker 4>And I'm not hearing any running, I'm not hearing any screaming,

0:29:45.720 --> 0:29:48.760
<v Speaker 4>and just you know, instinctively I realize this is me

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<v Speaker 4>and them. I'm just pummeling him, pummelling him, pumbling him,

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<v Speaker 4>and I feel his grip start to loosen. So I'm thinking,

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<v Speaker 4>oh man, this is I think I can get away.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll go into a building. I'll go to the third floor.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll jump on a roof on the way out and

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<v Speaker 4>go to you through the bathroom, go to you like

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna run around. He os help us. We're the FBI.

0:30:13.840 --> 0:30:16.840
<v Speaker 4>And I'm like, I don't know. These people, stay out

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<v Speaker 4>of it. And I realized I sound stupid as soon

0:30:20.200 --> 0:30:22.640
<v Speaker 4>as I say it, Like, of course to the FBI.

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<v Speaker 4>These aren't just like a woman and a man jumping

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<v Speaker 4>out a guy saying their FBI. This has to be

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<v Speaker 4>serious and it may be confused to them, but they

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<v Speaker 4>know in this scrimmage, I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>The bad guy.

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<v Speaker 4>The students or whoever, the other students who are all

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<v Speaker 4>around me, right, there's and there's there's a group of them.

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<v Speaker 4>There's you know, it's that big area back there. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>just beating the ship out of it at this point,

0:30:42.600 --> 0:30:46.840
<v Speaker 4>and all of a sudden, I just I can't move.

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<v Speaker 4>They all the kids just jump want me, these boys,

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<v Speaker 4>just these guys, and I'm swarmed and my hands are

0:31:10.200 --> 0:31:12.240
<v Speaker 4>on my side because I can no longer pummel, I

0:31:12.280 --> 0:31:14.800
<v Speaker 4>can't swing, I can't do nothing. They're all trying to

0:31:14.800 --> 0:31:21.960
<v Speaker 4>grab me. And then I feel cock click and they

0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:27.880
<v Speaker 4>tie me up, handcuff me, and I'm just the whole time,

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<v Speaker 4>Fuck you, motherfucker. Goddamn sounds a bitch of just I

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<v Speaker 4>was so angry because I knew I'm caught. I'm never

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<v Speaker 4>getting bail again. I'm gonna have to go do time.

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<v Speaker 3>And that was it.

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<v Speaker 4>And that was it. Man, they got me, They got me.

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