1 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 1: It is clear. It is obvious the war in Afghanistan 2 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: did not end on the terms we wanted, with the 3 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: Taliban now in power in cobblem whoa understatement of the century. 4 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: Thank you, General, appreciate it. That was, of course, General 5 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: Mark Millie. I just want to before we get into 6 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: everything here, I want to make sure. I want to 7 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: make sure everybody has a proper recap on it. And 8 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: I know what you might be thinking, Oh, Jesse, not 9 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: Afghanistan again, No, no no, no, no. I think it's important 10 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: we go over this because we're not going to allow 11 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: them to do the thing that they love to do, 12 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: and the thing they do really well, have some major 13 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: screw up that's all their fault, and then instead of 14 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: dwelling on it, talking about it, apologizing for it, they 15 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: just zoom right past it. They just moved to the 16 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: next thing, and then the next thing and the next thing, 17 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: and soon they're five scandals pasted it and you can 18 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: you're still like, well, well, WHOA, I want to talk 19 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: about Afghanistan. We're gonna have a brief thirty second recap 20 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: here tonight as we start out our show on the 21 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: State of our Military, and we're gonna talk about Afghanistan. Briefly, 22 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: I just just give you a sentence or two, just 23 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: want to recap this for you. The Joe Biden administration, they, 24 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: without getting our American civilians or our American military equipment 25 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: out first, just decided to yank our people at a 26 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: Bagram air Base. Okay, part of Bagram Air Base was 27 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: a jail facility where we held the terrorists we had captured. 28 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: Keep that in the back of your mind for just 29 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: a second, Okay, So we pull them out of Bagram. 30 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: We then, because it becomes a scandal, everyone's looking around saying, 31 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: what you just left all our civilians behind? What are 32 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: you doing? So we send them back in. Only we 33 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: can't send them back into Bogram. So we send them 34 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: back into a random airport, just like an airport around 35 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: your area. Can't secure that properly. And then remember that 36 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: jail we just talked about a second ago, one of 37 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: the guys we let out of the jail by closing 38 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: Bogram puts on a suicide vest, walks up and incinerates 39 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: thirteen of our troops, thirteen of our warriors outside of 40 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: the airport. In response to thirteen of our warriors being 41 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: blown up by an ISIS terrorist, the Joe Biden administration 42 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: puts a reaper drone onto a family of ten, including 43 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: adorable little kids. And then the next day the generals 44 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: went out there and tried to tell you it was 45 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: ISIS we hit. And then it was well, it wasn't 46 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: the ISIS that was responsible, but it was definitely ISIS. 47 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: And then about three days later, when all the pictures 48 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: came out, they said, Okay, my bad, not a nice 49 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: little recap for everybody. We're embarrassed on the world stage 50 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: once again. And I will tell you this, the rots 51 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: in accounting that we should have from Afghanistan, it is amazing. 52 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: Did you see the latest This was in Red State 53 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: dot com And I want to give Jennifer van Laar 54 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 1: credit for it. Major General, the major general. Maybe you 55 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: remember the pictures of the major general. There was a 56 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: picture the major general. He was the last one on 57 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: the plane, remember, or last one on the plane? Is 58 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: we left? And of course this is like some half 59 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: triumphant moment. I'm the last one to leave. That's a funny. 60 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: He got on that gigantic plane to leave and decided 61 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: he wasn't quite done pillaging Afghanistan yet. According to this 62 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: report there was some taliband toyota that he wanted to 63 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: keep as a souvenir, apparently had a weapon mounted on 64 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: it and everything, and so he told we don't know 65 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: the exact number yet, between fifty and a hundred people 66 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: who were getting waiting to get evacuated from the plane. 67 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: He told them to get off the plane. He forced 68 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: them off the plane. We then took that toyota, put 69 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: it on the plane, closed the doors, and left those 70 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: people behind. And there are reports, again we can't seem 71 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: to get straight answers that some or all of those 72 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: people are now dead. Are you disgusted yet by the 73 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: state of your military? You should be, And remember you 74 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: have every right as a patriotic American to want a 75 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: military that is honorable, that is capable. And hear me, Now, 76 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: I know we have the best front line troops in 77 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: the world. I know we got all the fancy equipment 78 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: your tax dollars combined. Hear me, Now, we do not 79 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: have a good military. We do not. We do not 80 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: have a military at all capable of winning a major 81 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,679 Speaker 1: war against a major opponent. I'm never going to stop 82 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 1: saying it. I'm going to shout it from the rooftops 83 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: until somebody does something. You know why, because there's an 84 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: old saying, and it's one hundred percent true. You are 85 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: better off having an army of donkeys led by a 86 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: lion than an army of lions led by a donkey 87 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,239 Speaker 1: leadership a lot. Do you want to see America's leadership 88 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: what they're worried about. Here's the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs. 89 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: I do think it's important actually for those of us 90 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: in uniform to be open minded and be widely read. 91 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: And the United States Military Academy is a university, and 92 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 1: it is important that we train and we understand. And 93 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: I want to understand white rage. And I'm white and 94 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: I want to understand it. So what is it that 95 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: caused thousands of people to assault this building and try 96 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: to overturn the Constitution of the United States of America? 97 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: What caused that? I want to find that out. Definitely 98 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 1: sounds like we're ready for the next war, right, remember 99 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: the army recruitment video but all the I'm a transgender 100 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: lesbian DV. Yeah, definitely sounds like we're interested in winning wars, right, 101 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: And I just want to go ahead and rewind the 102 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 1: clock on you for a couple of things. I want 103 00:05:57,839 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: to let you know just how deep the rock goes. 104 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: Do you remember when the Black Lives Matter communists were 105 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: burning down American cities across the country. Just keep that 106 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: in the back of your mind for a second. We 107 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: have this place called west Point. It's a revered institution. 108 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: It's the Army's military university. Much of our American leadership 109 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: has come out of west Point. It's not only a 110 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: brutally difficult school to get through the physical rigors. I'm 111 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: it's supposed to produce the best of the best. Back 112 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: to the Black Lives Matter thing, Remember what all that 113 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: crap was happening. Do you want to know what west 114 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: Point is producing? Now? Remember this little picture there you go, 115 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: a bunch of cadets with their fists rays in a 116 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: Black power salute. Do you want to know what west 117 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: Point did in uniform? By the way, do you want 118 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: to know what west Point did with those Black power 119 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: students out there? Nothing? Not a single thing that was 120 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: back in two sixteen. So let me see carry the one. 121 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: Yeah it's two twenty one. Now, every single one of 122 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: those students, if they graduated, and I'm assuming at least 123 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: half of them, did every single one of those Black 124 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: Power students. They're now officers, they're leaders in the United 125 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: States Army. Do you still think we have a good military? 126 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: Are you sure about that? I mean, I don't want 127 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: to bring up old stuff, but do I have to 128 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: remind you about American sailors on their knees with their 129 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: hands on their heads, captured by who but what juggernaut? 130 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: What military juggernaut could possibly have brought ours our sailors? 131 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: Sol Iran Iran Iran was able to overtake an American 132 00:07:55,880 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: naval vessel and bring our sailors to their knees. I 133 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: don't know if you remember this. They were then held captive. 134 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: We had to negotiate their release. Do you still think 135 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: we have a good military? Are you sure about that? Oh? Again, 136 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: I hate to bring up old stuff. Remember that warship 137 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:18,559 Speaker 1: off the coast of San Diego. There was a huge 138 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: fire on the warship. Don't worry, they're still investigating the fire. 139 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: There was a huge fire on the warship for billion 140 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: dollars in damage. Do you remember all the collisions they've 141 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: been having in the United States Navy. On top of 142 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: the fires, the collisions they're running into each other all 143 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: over the world. Now for some reason, it's like it's 144 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: Michael's navy. How did that happen? Why did that happen? Well, 145 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: we don't have a good military. Oh we have good 146 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: ships again, our frontline guys, Rangers, Marines, green berets, seals, 147 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 1: all those guys. Oh yeah, those are the best of 148 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: the best system. Question about that, most capable, best honorable 149 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: warfighters out there. We do not have a good United 150 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: States military. We have a bunch of politicians disguised as 151 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: generals leading our military. They're worried about everything under the sun, 152 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: except what they actually should be worried about, mobilizing a 153 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: military force that is able to go out and kill 154 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: all the enemies of the United States of America. We 155 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: don't have a military interested in protecting this nation. We 156 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: have a military interested in transgender filth, making sure women 157 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: are happy. Are we welcome enough? Are the black people happy? 158 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: We're focused on every single pathetic thing you could possibly 159 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: be focused on, except fighting wars and winning wars. And 160 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: you don't believe me now because you can't see the rot. 161 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 1: This has happened before, by the way, Historically, you can't 162 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: see the rot until one day you wake up, you 163 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: find yourself in a war with a major power, and 164 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: you're busy patent yourself on the back. We're America, baby, 165 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: And then you get your teeth kicked in and tens 166 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: of thousands, hundreds of thousands of your people were dead 167 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: and buried. And then you'll look around and say, what happened? 168 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: Don't ask yourself what happened. Whenever that happens, pull up 169 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: this show. I just told you what happened. It's happening 170 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: right now. Very few people seem interested in turning that around. Now. 171 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: I know that probably made you uncomfortable, but I am right. 172 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: You don't have to take it from me. Decorated Navy 173 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: seal Eddie Gallagher joins us, next, you can take it 174 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: from him. What I'll say is, and from my position, 175 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: potentially all those people did die in vain if we 176 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: don't have senior leaders that own up and raise their 177 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: hand and say we did not do this well in 178 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: the end. Without that, we just keep repeating the same mistakes. 179 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: This amalgamation of the economic slash corporate slash political slash. 180 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: Higher military ranks are not holding up their end of 181 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: the bargain. I want to say this very strongly. I 182 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 1: have been fighting for seventeen years. I am willing to 183 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: throw it all away to say to my senior leaders, 184 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: I demand accountability. That's the guy that got thrown in 185 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 1: the brig. The one guy from all this Afghanistan mesta 186 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: got thrown in the brig. Is that guy. We're obviously 187 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: grateful he's out now joining me, now decorated Navy's seal 188 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: who was wrongly accused of war crimes. He's also the 189 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: co author of the book Man and in the Arena, 190 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: Eddie Gallagher. Eddie, how is it humanly possible that he 191 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: puts out a video gets tossed in the brig calling 192 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: for accountability? Did he know he would be thrown in 193 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: the brig when he put this out? Um? He knew 194 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 1: this was a possibility for you know, standing up for 195 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 1: what he believes in and speaking truth. You know, the 196 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: Pipeter Foundation that we UH formed got behind him immediately 197 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: after he put out his first video. We knew what 198 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 1: was coming. We knew the persecution from the military was coming, 199 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: since he spoke out and said exactly what everybody else 200 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: was thinking. Um, this guy just had the moral courage 201 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: to do so in uniform. Um and you know, this 202 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,719 Speaker 1: is the type of leader that we need in the military. 203 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: And you know the Pipeter Foundation is going to be 204 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: alongside him. UM. You know as far as them locking 205 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,599 Speaker 1: him up in the brig you know, that's that's the 206 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: name of the game, when you speak, speak truth and 207 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: speak out against the big machine. Um. You know, they 208 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: they had no reason, real reason to put him in there. 209 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: You know, they say they buy he violated a gag order. 210 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: It was unlawful gag order from the first place. And 211 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: you know, you know it could be a coincidence, could not, 212 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: But you know the fact that he was thrown in 213 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: the day before, um, you know, Millie and the rest 214 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: of them had to testify. UM, you know that's uh. 215 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: I think they did that so he could not make 216 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: another video and speak out against them again. Eddie, could 217 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: you explain what the machine is for people who aren't 218 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: sure we're talking about. The machine is the industrial military complex, 219 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: you know, the Um, it's the system. Um. You know, 220 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: if you speak out against the system, then they're gonna 221 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: come down on you. You know, I've seen this in 222 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: the past, Uh, in my career. You know, officers and 223 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: it's you know, mainly officers because they're the ones that 224 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: affect change and policy in the military. They reach a 225 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: certain rank, which is usually OZ five, and they start 226 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: becoming very political and every decision they make from that 227 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: point on its political, and it's not for the health 228 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: and welfare of the men and women below them. It's 229 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: more for their own career. Um. And I think we 230 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:13,479 Speaker 1: sort of saw the pinnacle that with the Afghanistan withdrawal. 231 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: You know, you had these incompetent leaders making an incompetent 232 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: plan which you know fell fell a crap and then 233 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: none of them want to take accountability for it. They 234 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: all know they don't belong there in the first place. Um. 235 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: You know, they made rank by becoming yes men or 236 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: with boot lickers, and you know, then they get into 237 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: a position of power, and then the whole country can 238 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: see that they really didn't earn their way to the top. 239 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: They just sat there and said yes to whatever, and 240 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: also lied to the American people and lied to four 241 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: different presidents dur over the past twenty years. And think, 242 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: can you explain? I mean you probably can't because you 243 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: didn't do it. Why do they climb in rank and 244 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: change so much? I mean guys like Billie, I mean 245 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: see I just just despise the man now. But Millie 246 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: is not some pokee. He's not some career paper pusher. 247 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: I mean, this dude, Steward was SF and now look 248 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: at him. What happened? How does that happen? You know 249 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: that it happens by them becoming yes men. Um. And 250 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: you know, from my extensive, extensive and my experience in 251 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: the military, you know, I've I've had some great officers 252 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: in charge, you know, and that makes a difference when 253 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: you do have one that's there for the right reasons, um, 254 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: to look out for the men and women below them 255 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: and to make sure we get the job done. But 256 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: on the other hand, I've had plenty who were there 257 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: for reasons of their own. They wanted to get to 258 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: the top and make a career, a political career out 259 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: of it. And um, you know, as far as a 260 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: lot of them, you know, you see Millie up there 261 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: with all of his ribbons, and he's you know, alts 262 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: off as you know, he's a combat veteran. You know, 263 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: from what I've seen. You know a lot of these 264 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: officers they pick and choose, uh, you know, they go 265 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: over into country, um, and then they'll pick and choose 266 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: when to go out just so they can earn a 267 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: ribbon that says they've been in combat, because that's a 268 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: check in the box to get to the top, right, 269 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: But a lot of them they're not. They're not real 270 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: combat veterans. They're you know, they're not real warriors, all right. 271 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: The current state of our military leadership milliicide. Obviously, I 272 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: think we agree on that. Where where are the good ones? 273 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: Are there good ones, Eddie? Because I'm asking these guys 274 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: are the ones training in the next generation. If we 275 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: have nothing but a bunch of crap generals and admirals, 276 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: we are in deep, deep, deep trouble. I don't care 277 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: how good our guys on the front line are. Are 278 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: there good ones in there? There are definitely good ones. 279 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: You know. These officers that are coming up through the 280 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: ranks right now, you know the way once they hit 281 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: oh four oh five, they're either told you can form 282 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: or get out, And a lot of them do get out. 283 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: A lot of good officers get out at a very 284 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: young stage in their career. What we need is for 285 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: those officers to stay, to stand up for what is right, 286 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: and there needs to be a change and internal change 287 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: in the system. Of how these officers are looked at 288 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: or how they look at their career, and the elitist 289 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 1: attitude that a lot of them have its to it 290 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: needs to change. And I think where that change needs 291 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: to happen is that these military academies like Annapolis and 292 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: West Point, they need to sort of take a step 293 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 1: back look at this situation that we're in right now, 294 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: because they're losing a lot of trust with the American 295 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 1: people and also with the men and women below them, 296 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: and that's not a good thing. And it's not a 297 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: good thing. There's never been another time in my life 298 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: where people hear the words CIA, FBI, or General and 299 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: half the country instinctively rolls their eyes. And I'll tell 300 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: you that's what I do now too. And I wanted 301 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: to me one of these guys my whole life, and 302 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: now I just sneer at the whole system and how 303 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: rotted it is. Be honest with me, Is it too 304 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: rotted to be fixed? No? I don't think it's too 305 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: wid it to be fixed. I think we just I 306 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: think they're again what Lieutenant Colonel Seller is saying, you know, 307 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: there needs to be accountability, There needs to be transparency, 308 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: There needs to be an honest assessment of how these 309 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: military leaders, that these officers are coming up through the 310 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: ranks and there needs to be changed. But until the 311 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: military can honestly like take a step back and take accountability, 312 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: know that there's say that there's something wrong, admit that 313 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: there's something wrong within the officer ranks, then that won't happen. 314 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: It's you know, it's uh. But I do think with 315 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 1: the current situation that we're in and people are seeing 316 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: it firsthand, that there can there will be a change 317 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: at some point, and I'm hoping it's sooner than later. Amen, 318 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: Fingers crossed for that. Eddie Gallagher, thank you so much, 319 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: Samperi file appreciate you. Appreciate you. By the Simperfi all right, 320 00:18:56,280 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: we'll be back. I am the guy that put the 321 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: big over the wall and it's definitely probably where the 322 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: grass time he's think all the support from now, y'all 323 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: stream he's a lot. Yeah, I'm about to be home 324 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: now today. Thank you. How about that? That was the 325 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 1: lance corporal of the marine who pulled that baby over 326 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: the wall. You remember the video from Afghanistan joining me 327 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: now to talk about him being investigated and other things. 328 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: As Tom amenta former Army ranger and co author of 329 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: the book The Twenty Year War. Tom he didn't say 330 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: anything political, wasn't in uniform, and yet immediately he's being investigated. 331 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: How can I take what's happened to our militaries anything 332 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: other than a political purge of enemies of the Democrats, 333 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: you know, honestly, man, this is just some of this 334 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 1: has just gotten so silly to me, Like he didn't 335 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: break any rules. You know, he didn't break any laws. 336 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: And if he chooses to be a supporter of president 337 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: former President Trump and watch him running get in twenty 338 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: twenty four, then God bless him. Like this is this 339 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: is just getting to the point where we are getting 340 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: so petty and so into our echo chambers that an 341 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: American can't choose to support another American political candidate. Like 342 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: it's just absurd, Like it's not even the military thing 343 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: to me at this point, it's just the like, how 344 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: what race the being petty can we get to? Right, 345 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: Like it's just it's it's obtuse, It's just it's so dumb. 346 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 1: It's like, why are we even having this conversation? Man? Like, 347 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: have we really lost that much common sense that someone 348 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 1: can't voice the opinion of whom they like to see 349 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: elected in America. Like that's a basic American freedom saying 350 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 1: this is my guy or this is my girl who 351 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: I want to see win an election. Like it's just dumb. 352 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: But Tom, but but that's that is where we are. Though. 353 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: It has become so absurd and you're one hundred percent 354 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,479 Speaker 1: right about it. Common sense, Tom, we can't even agree 355 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: that a man is a man and a woman is 356 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,239 Speaker 1: a woman anymore. There's there's no common sense at all. 357 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: We've just completely collectively lost our minds. Dude, I don't 358 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: understand why you would possily investigate this kid. I don't 359 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: like it's so it just doesn't pass the common sense. 360 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: As I keep going back that every time I read 361 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: about this story, it's like he prefers a specific presidential candidate. 362 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 1: Is he eighteen? Yes? Is he choosing to exercise his 363 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: voice in America? Yes? Does he happen to do a 364 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: certain job, which, by the way, he didn't violate the 365 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: rules of So what's the problem here? Okay, why do 366 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 1: we care? That's my question? Why does anybody care? Uh? 367 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: I want to play you this of Mark Milly again, 368 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: Chairman of the joints, Yves, and I just like this. 369 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: This is one of those things that has been quite 370 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: a wake up call for me. I suspected a lot, 371 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 1: but boy, this is a wake up call. Twitch topics 372 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: are very quickly. General, Millie, do you think if the 373 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 1: Chinese Communist Party decided to invade Taiwan, would their military 374 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: leadership call and give you a heads up? I think 375 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: there'd be a period of increased tension, indicators and warnings, 376 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: and I think there'd be an exchange of various communications 377 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: at all levels. Department. Really think that, And I think 378 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: you really think that? You really think the Chinese Communist 379 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 1: Party head of their of the PLA would call and say, Hey, General, FYI, 380 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna get ready to invade Taiwan. I just thought 381 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: i'd give you a heads up. Do you think you know? 382 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: I honestly think that I know I'd call him and 383 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: ask him. No, I'm asking him right. Do you think 384 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: he'd give you a heads up? I think on the 385 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: inion of Taiwan, I think I think an invasion of 386 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: Taiwan be a fairly obvious thing to pick up on. 387 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 1: That is so embarrassing for so many reasons, Tom, I 388 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: don't even know where to begin. It is clear that 389 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: he knows China wouldn't. It's clear he knows. Gosh, I 390 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: can't believe I'm even saying this. The Chairman of the 391 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: Joint Chiefs is some subservient being to his Chinese counterpart. 392 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: And man, I just feel like vomiting. You know, Millie 393 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: has just constantly put himself in these in these situations, 394 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: or maybe ultimately history will look back and say that 395 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: it was just foisted upon him. I don't know, but 396 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: it just seems like he cannot for all of his 397 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: you know, when he was being questioned by Tom Cotton 398 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: about you know, would he resign on things and calling 399 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: all these things political statements and all this other stuff, 400 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 1: and how he's not supposed to be a political being. Man, 401 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: he just seems to keep running into basic political traps, 402 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: doesn't he like answer the question? No, I don't think 403 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: the president, you know, or the Premier of China would 404 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: call me or their senior general leadership right like, be 405 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: honest about it. We all know it. Man, Like they're 406 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 1: not calling us, especially if they're invading Taiwan. We consider 407 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: an ally who they keep increasing their aggression of flyovers 408 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: and they keep trying to find ways to you know, 409 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: bother us through bothering them like a purse. They're not 410 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: going to call us like own it and then own 411 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: the response like it's not only is it embarrassing, it's 412 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: just bad basic r which I don't understand. If he 413 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 1: really just wants to be a soldier, give a soldier's opinion, right, like, 414 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,199 Speaker 1: if you're not a politician, then you're a soldier, then 415 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 1: be a soldier. Answer their question directly and forthwrightly. Or 416 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 1: if you're a politician, then play the politician game, but 417 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 1: play it better man, because this is, like you said, embarrassing. Tom. 418 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: I am actually worried about Taiwan, not because I actually 419 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 1: have some affinity for time Wan. I don't dislike them. 420 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: I don't like them. I don't I don't pretend to 421 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: be some taime when he's patriot. But I'm worried about 422 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: the micro microchip situation, and I'm very worried about China 423 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: testing the waters. If you will not to not to 424 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 1: do a South China see thing of going ahead and 425 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: taking Taiwan and daring us to do something about it, 426 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: because I think I think they know what we all 427 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: suspect we won't do much well. When you look at 428 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: the ball up from Afghanistan, you're definitely I don't want 429 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 1: to see your force. Yeah, and I'll say you force 430 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 1: your force. To conclude that America seems to be very 431 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: disinterested in protecting and supporting talents. And if we weren't 432 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: prepared to stick it out in a place that we 433 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: had all that investment in, what are we going to 434 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: do for Taiwan. It's it's to your point, it's a 435 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: very fair question, and there's very serious geopolitical ramifications when 436 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: you start stripping it down, not just for microprocessors and 437 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: trade and you know, some of the critical components of 438 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,959 Speaker 1: the emerging technology market, but you also have just the 439 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 1: stability of the region. Right we have we you know, 440 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 1: it's we have bases in Okinawa, we have the you know, 441 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 1: we constantly have the fifth Fleet and other Pacific Naval 442 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: carrier groups all out there. What does it mean if 443 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: they take away a key strongholding their critical alle because 444 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 1: we don't have a lot of them in that regiment. 445 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 1: And for that matter, is the Earn administration actually going 446 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 1: to defend and support our allies because the date they 447 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 1: do not seem to be very interested in not even 448 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 1: forget using the sword, if need be, even rattling the saber, 449 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: which is concerning. That's part of your political strategy is 450 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: the ability to force projected our military. Tom, what's changed 451 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: in our military? I mean, I remember, look, World War Two, 452 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: We're out there winning world wars. And since then, and 453 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: let's just breeze on past Korea, since then, there hadn't 454 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 1: been a lot of victories out there, Tom. And I'm 455 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: looking at all these fancy planes and all these fancy 456 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: aircraft carriers, and everybody knows we legitimately have the best 457 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: frontline guys out there. What happened to us? I think 458 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: it's time to have a really uncomfortable conversation and face 459 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: the hard and uncomfortable truth is that the American military 460 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: is a microcosm of America. Part of what makes the 461 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 1: military is so great and the call to service so 462 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: critically important in my mind, is that the United States 463 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 1: military is a microcosm of all three and twenty eight 464 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,479 Speaker 1: million Americans. And what I think is happening is that 465 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,439 Speaker 1: one we're seeing a reflection in the mirror of in 466 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: our military what American society is evolving to. And we 467 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: don't like it, and in my opinion, we shouldn't. But 468 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: the other thing is is I think that as the 469 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 1: time has gone on, especially in the past twenty years, 470 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: I'm not entirely sure if it's as representative as it 471 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,719 Speaker 1: once was, because you're starting to see a warrior class develop, 472 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: which leads to more confusion for people who have no 473 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: interest in serving, who don't want to step up and 474 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,719 Speaker 1: answer the nation's call. And as you have all of 475 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: these things starting to happen, you know, one the representation 476 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: of America, but also starting to see the sort of 477 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: undercurrent of generation after generation after generation of serving and 478 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: that disconnect. Then you see this really really uncomfortable facet 479 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: of the American society being out of step and out 480 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: of touch with the military on some and it's it's 481 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,479 Speaker 1: tragic because it shows just the echo chamber. It shows 482 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 1: the divisiveness in America when we can't all pull together 483 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: to defend the nation that we all know and love. 484 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: America's greatest strength is supposed to be its diversity, right, 485 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: It's supposed to be the fact that we are the 486 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: great melting pot of the world, and that what we 487 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: all believe in is just you know, freedom, democracy. In 488 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: the American way, and to see that being chipped away at, 489 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 1: and to see the evolution of the problems cropping up 490 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 1: in the military I think, on some levels, unfortunately, is 491 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: a microcosm of America. Tom. Thank you so much, my man. 492 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Appreciate you two brother always good to 493 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: hang out with you. Be good, all right, keep on 494 00:28:47,080 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: keeping on. Next, I am now convinced that as many 495 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: as ten civilians, including up to seven children, were tragically 496 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: killed in that strike. Moreover, we now assess that it 497 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: is unlikely that the vehicle and those who died were 498 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: associated with isis K or were a direct threat to 499 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: US forces. Okay, joining me now, my friend Jason Beardsley. 500 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: He's the national executive director for the Association of the 501 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: US Navy. It's also a national security expert. Jason, I mean, 502 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: just to recap for everybody, I obviously know you know, 503 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: and so does everyone watching. We pulled out a bogram. 504 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: We just then decided to secure some local jerkwater airport, 505 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: which you can't properly do. We got thirteen of our 506 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: people incinerated, and in response to that, we drone strike. 507 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: The family of ten, including young children, and our military 508 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: leadership I might add, came out the next day and 509 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: said it was a righteous, righteous strike I believe is 510 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: the way they put it. Do we know yet how 511 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: we got this intelligence who told us that's the equal 512 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: to hit well, Jesse, that was such a bad incident, 513 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: and if we just listen to them, they were probably 514 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: getting the intelligence from the Taliban. We talked about the 515 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: whole time, using the Taliban to help facilitate the exit 516 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: of our people from Afghanistan. That's a tragedy. What they 517 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: told us was we were going to have the capacity 518 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: to do over the horizon strikes. Well, we see now 519 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: what the effect of that is and what the real 520 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: results of over the horizon intelligence looks like, and it 521 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: doesn't look that good. Would you, for the dumb ones 522 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: among us, chiefly me, would you please explain over the 523 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: horizon what exactly they mean by that? Sure, this is 524 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: the reliance of our systems, defense intelligence systems to peer 525 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: into locations and intelligence through electronic means, satellite drones, things 526 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: that are remote and they can't paint the human terrain 527 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: the characteristics unfolding on the ground. Over the horizon literally 528 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: means out of the country, beyond the range of humans 529 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: who can tell you that the guide driving the truck 530 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: is an NGO worker, or that the kids on the 531 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: ground were innocent civilians. So over the horizon we've had 532 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: problems with that before. We walked into nine to eleven 533 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: with a reliance, a heavy reliance on technical remote intelligence 534 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: gathering systems, satellites and those type of things, and then 535 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: we missed what happens at the human level. So that's 536 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: not the best way to do intelligence. Shockingly, satellites can't 537 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: give you all the intel you need, especially with people 538 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: who are smart enough to switch to a pen and 539 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,719 Speaker 1: paper now. But I digress from all that, Jason, I 540 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: do want to ask about our allies who were there. 541 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: I mean, we did have a bunch of human intelligence 542 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: assets there. I obviously know there's a butch stuff you 543 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: can't talk about. I'm sure we didn't get them all 544 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: out right, and I can't imagine they met a very 545 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: kind end if the Taliban got ahold of them. Jesse, 546 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: this is one of the sat our stories. It's going 547 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: to hurt for a long time. Folks that have been 548 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: on the ground working with incredible assets from Afghanistan and 549 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: others who were left in place and then given spoof 550 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: emails because we left our biometrics machines behind, so that 551 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: the Taliban walked him into what we're purportedly safe houses 552 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: and then executed people. We're seeing what was essentially a 553 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: hunt and kill list left behind by us and given 554 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: to the hands of people who we said we were 555 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: going to rely on to again quell the situation. So 556 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: another example of having the wrong people rely on really 557 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:36,719 Speaker 1: bad characters. Okay, so we left behind a list of 558 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: our human intelligence assets. That that alone is bad enough. 559 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: Do we know what's that done on purpose? Please tell 560 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: me it was more of oh, I forgot my car 561 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: keys situation. At least that would be kind of understandable. Well, 562 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: to be clear, what we're talking about now are electronic 563 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: equipment that we used for years to do things like biometrics, fingerprints, 564 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: assigning people contracts, or where we're paying them for work. 565 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: Some of that material was destroyed. Some people were good 566 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: about getting it destroyed on the runout or the rush 567 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: out of the embassy, but enough stuff was left behind 568 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: that the Taliban had access to equipment that we had 569 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: relied on. So once they had that access, it's all 570 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: about exploiting it. It's just like going into somebody's computer 571 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: finding all the contacts you're looking for. So it's not 572 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: clear how it happened, but what we knew for sure 573 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: is that the rush out of Afghanistan was the problem. 574 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: The way it was done, the sequence you mentioned, bogram, 575 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: you mentioned, you know, doing a podunk careport that we 576 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: held out. We are prepared to do this as a military, 577 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: non evacuum, non combat evacuation operations, we can do this, 578 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: but instead we relied on other mechanisms, optics and optics. 579 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: If war was all about optics, the US military would 580 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 1: be in a beautiful position. But war is really about 581 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: real results, and right now we're not seeing good results. Okay, 582 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: I don't want to belabor. The point that I'm asking 583 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: to do is something that I'm sure you probably either 584 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: can't say or won't say. But okay, so we leave 585 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: biometric data behind. Let's just call it accidental. Somebody somebody 586 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: left the suitcase there. How can the Taliban access that? 587 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: I mean, even my stupid laptop at home that I 588 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: can hardly work as a password on it. Afghanistan is 589 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: this playground. There are plenty of nefarious actors, including state 590 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: actors like Russia and China and Pakistan. And they're not 591 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: just exploiting that equipment we left. We're talking about exploitation 592 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,399 Speaker 1: of cell phones, cell phone towers, based stations, things that 593 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: they are very interested in. So for example, rolling through 594 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: a bunch of cell numbers that were left in systems, 595 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 1: they could call cell phones, get people to answer and 596 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,320 Speaker 1: paying their locations, and then proceed to hunt and chase. 597 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: So we have other nefarious state actors that have been 598 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: involved in this as well. Thank you, Jason, That's pretty 599 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 1: much what I thought. Gosh, that sucks. All right? We 600 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: have this story came out from Red State. Look like 601 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: the author, Jennifer Van Laar, had plenty of sources and 602 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,879 Speaker 1: plenty of back up for it. Where it looks like 603 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: the general, you know, the last man off the ground 604 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: that they did that whole thing that he saw in 605 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: the movies. I'm sure looks like he walked on a 606 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: plane and kicked fifty to one hundred people off it 607 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,839 Speaker 1: so he could load on a Toyota truck that the 608 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 1: Taliban had used as a souvenir. And we're hearing those 609 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 1: people who were kicked off were executed. What do we 610 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: know about this, Jason? This is really bad. Well, this 611 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 1: is one of those areas where when the truth comes out, 612 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: it explodes and it gets messy, especially for people that 613 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: were involved. But sometimes that messy is the only way 614 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: we the people, we the Americans, can get to the truth. 615 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: And in this case, there is a lot more mess 616 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: that will be coming out. I have no veracity on this, 617 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: but I can tell you that from folks that were 618 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 1: on the ground, there were a lot of incidences that 619 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 1: really will raise the ire of service members and Americans 620 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 1: who believe in their country and love who we are 621 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: and presume that everything we're doing there has integrity and 622 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 1: is guided by our moral principles. So when we leave 623 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: any person behind, it hurts us. And we've got folks, NGOs, 624 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 1: veteran service organizations, great organizations trying to expedite or facilitate 625 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: the movement of people out of Afghanistan or being stopped 626 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: or blocked or thrown paperwork that they can't commit to 627 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: or changes. Every day. This is happening from our own government. 628 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 1: So what we know generally is that the case to 629 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 1: be made for the movement, the easy movement of people 630 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 1: out of country, time after time after time, is being stymied. 631 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 1: The real question that Americans have to ask is why. Yeah, 632 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't even know if they want to 633 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: ask is. I don't think anybody's gonna like that answer. 634 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,839 Speaker 1: But Jason Beardsley, Jason, thank you so much, my brother. 635 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,479 Speaker 1: I appreciate you man, good death, good to see you again. 636 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 1: Thank you for what you're doing, Jesse, appreciate it. If 637 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 1: that story turns out to be one hundred percent true, 638 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: and let me be clear right now, we have no 639 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 1: indication it's untrue, the state of rot in our military 640 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: is really, really, really bad. All right, we got more 641 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:24,399 Speaker 1: hang up. You don't want to lose a major war. 642 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: I don't want to lose a major war. And people 643 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: do not understand how serious this situation is. And it's 644 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: hard to quantify it, right, it's hard to quantify what 645 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 1: we go fight Iraq. We've messed around in Afghanistan for 646 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: twenty years. It's been decades and decades and decades since 647 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 1: we fought a major war against a major power. So 648 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: we can't wrap our minds around that. And here's another thing. 649 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,359 Speaker 1: We can't wrap our minds around losing a major war. Oh, 650 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: I know about Vietnam and whatnot. I mean on our 651 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 1: own soil. We don't even know what that's like. We 652 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,359 Speaker 1: don't want to know what that's like. If we don't 653 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 1: get this rot in filth fixed, we're gonna find out 654 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: what that's like. Nations don't last forever. What we talked 655 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,439 Speaker 1: about on this special is a really, really, really big deal. 656 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 1: I hope everybody's paying attention. All Right, we'll do it again.