1 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: He's the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war 2 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 1: room for incenter news and draft analysis from deep within 3 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star in Frisco, 4 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys like DDE Lamb and now your hosts Dane Brugler, 5 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: Jeff Kavanaugh, Kevin Turner and Kyle Yeomans. Well. I hope 6 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: everybody has their morning coffee, has an opportunity to get 7 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: their draft notebook out, and is back on top of 8 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: the Draft show here on a Friday morning. It's an 9 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: early morning edition of the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. 10 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: As we are one hundred and thirty nine days out 11 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: from this moment from the twenty twenty one NFL Draft. 12 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: Welcome in to the SWBC Mortgage studios at the Star 13 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: in Frisco. Kyle Yeomans with you alongside our fantastic group 14 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: of panelists this year, the athletics Dane Brugler, We've got 15 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: Kevin kt Turner and then Jeff cabinall from one oh 16 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: five three the fan and guys. It's a it's an 17 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: important week, to say the least, whenever it comes to 18 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one NFL Draft, especially when it comes 19 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: to the Dallas Cowboys. Jeff, I just want to know 20 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: what you're calling this week between the Cowboys and the Bengals. 21 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: Do you have a specific name for it. I guess 22 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: it depends on the language we're allowed to use on 23 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: this platform. Okay, I mean you can do tank. It 24 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: could be tank Bold twenty twenty. It could be the 25 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: the Suck for Sewel Battle. It's a big but it's 26 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 1: a big game. Clearly, it's a big game for both teams, 27 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: Cincinnati and Dallas both looking to to get the desired result. 28 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: We'll say, looking to get the proper result in this game, 29 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: because man, a lot hangs in the balance this week. Kyle, 30 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: we're talking about more ammunition for captain trade down here. 31 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: That's what we're really talking about. I don't care about 32 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: Penney Steel. I'm looking for more ammunition. Let's go. You 33 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: just want more rumble in the jungle? Is oh? I 34 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: like that, Katie, say that one more time, good old 35 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: fashioned the rumble in the jungle till out the record books. 36 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: When the Cowboys and the Bengals get together one team, 37 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: he's got a head coach on the line the Bengals, 38 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: he's trying not to get fired. That's the Bengals. I 39 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: think our coach is fine for now. Um, so yeah, 40 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: there's there's a lot on the line in this game. 41 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm looking forward to the Cowboys going out 42 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: there and doing their best. And I feel like Dane, 43 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: you you probably won't kind of participate in the Tank 44 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: Bowl twenty twenty, but do you think this is legitimately 45 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: a battle for the number three overall pick? Depending on 46 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: who loses this game, it's gonna end up getting it. Yeah, 47 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: there's a great shot that's what it ends up being. 48 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: And you know, the Jets and Jaguars probably gonna be 49 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: the first two picks, and then after that, that's where 50 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: it gets really interesting. And you know, we on the 51 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: Athletic we did an oracle this week on we did 52 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: a million simulations. The rest of the season. The Cowboys 53 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: have a fifty six point three percent chance of picking 54 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: top five, so not even as high as I thought. 55 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: It'd be a little higher than that, to be honest 56 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: with you. But if they do win this game against 57 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: the Bengals, then all of a sudden, you know, then yeah, 58 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: we're talking about pick seven, pick eight, and things get 59 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: a little more interesting with how they're going to navigate 60 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: this draft, so you know it's it's gonna be an 61 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: interesting the results gonna make. It's gonna have a ripple 62 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: effect of how we look at this draft, how the 63 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: top seven eight picks play out. So you know my 64 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: eyes will be glued on this one, no doubt. Well, 65 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: I'm glad you actually brought that up, because I think 66 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: that is a worry for a lot of Dallas Cowboys 67 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: Nation right now, is the fact that you could have 68 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: the number three overall pick, but to win this week 69 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: really puts you back in terms of draft position. Sure, 70 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: it might get you right back in the hunt to 71 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,119 Speaker 1: be a game out of the NFC East with three 72 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: to play, but with that being said, I mean it's 73 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: more likely to end up in a top five pick 74 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: than I'm sure it is to win the NFC East 75 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: at this moment after the loss last week to the Ravens. 76 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: But Dane kind of address what one of the biggest 77 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: problems is at hand this year, and that's the fact 78 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 1: that there's a big difference between pick number three and 79 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: let's says pick number five, six, seven, And how big 80 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: of a gap is that that we're looking at heading 81 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: into twenty twenty one. Well, yeah, and I think it's twofold. 82 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: You know, first of all, you have to talk about 83 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: quarterbacks likely go one two, So you would have your 84 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: choice of the best non quarterback in this draft if 85 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: you're picking three, and you have to feel great about that, 86 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: whether that is Penna Sul or whether that is the 87 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: highest ranked defensive player on your board, you feel really 88 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: good about getting that guy. The second part of that 89 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: is the trade implications. You know, if quarterbacks go one two, Jets, Jaguars, 90 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: and then you've got a few teams lurking with Panthers 91 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: and you know a few of these other teams that 92 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: could possibly trade up, and so if you have that 93 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: third pick, your phone's gonna be blown up about okay, 94 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: well what's it going to cost to move to move up? 95 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: And so having that third pick put you in a 96 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: position of power, and in the draft, that's what you want. 97 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: You want options. You want to be able to have. 98 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: The more options is going to give you a chance 99 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: to find value. And again, that could be the best 100 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: player available there, or it could be a deal that 101 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: knocks you off your feet and you say, okay, yeah, 102 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: well we'll take an extra one next year. You know, 103 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: we'll take a couple of twos, a couple of Day 104 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: two picks, and we'll revamp this roster. So when you 105 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: look at what's best for this organization moving forward, having 106 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: that number three pick would be a pretty big power move. 107 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: I feel like that's just music to Jeff Kavanaugh's ears 108 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: right now, I really do. I think what I think 109 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: that's just music to your ears. Yeah, I think, and 110 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: I think it bears it. Actually, I think it bears 111 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: repeating that this is a weird draft here, at least 112 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: based on what I watched so far, in that you know, 113 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: when you've earned, through your blood, sweat and tears and injuries, 114 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: the right to pick in the top five and potentially 115 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 1: take the best defensive player on the board. They're supposed 116 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: to be like Chase Young or Miles Garrett or Jalen Ramsey, 117 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: like they're supposed to be these corners and these edge rushers, 118 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 1: and there's not this year. So for like, so for 119 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: all the fun that I'm having talking about team tank 120 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: and Captain trade down, the traddown aspect I think is 121 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: very important because odds are because in most drafts there 122 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: are there's Pro Bowlers and there's all pros somewhere. But 123 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: this year, my confidence level in telling you who's going 124 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: to end up being the best corner or the best 125 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: pass rusher is not what it would normally be. So 126 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: to me, it's it is, it's it's I'm really cheering 127 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: for a potential scenario that may not even happen, but 128 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: it's a lot of fun. You know, Captain Traddown needs 129 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: to ride. This is a it's a really weird year. 130 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: You need to. You need to get all the value 131 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: you can out of that pick and just not get 132 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: stuck with it. Well, real quick question for both Jeff 133 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: and Kat who's the best defensive player in this draft 134 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: that you have watched so far? You know, not and 135 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: not and not just talking specifically about the Cowboys, just too, 136 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: just a flat out broad question. Who is the best 137 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: defensive player you have watched up to this point? I 138 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: may go, I mean it's gonna be between Lee um 139 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: Ohli the Georgia edge maybe and like that and that's 140 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: and and I think that's a guy that most years 141 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: goes in the late teens, So like, you know, um 142 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: and maybe it is Patrick Surtan the Alabama corner, but 143 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: I feel like his tape also normally goes in the 144 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: late teens. So that's that's that's where I'm at. I 145 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: don't have a guy that that I absolutely love, Um, Katie, 146 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: give me the other names. Farley, Oh, the guy I've 147 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: got like most excited about, like watching and may have 148 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: like potential to it as Micah Parsons. But I don't 149 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: have a ton of interest and watch and drafting an 150 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: off bowl linebacker in the top ten only top fifteen 151 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: for being Honestum, I have a ton of interest in 152 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: doing that. Farley would be next. He's my top ranked 153 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: corner right now, but I'm still kind of scrapping for 154 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: for twenty nineteen Virginia tech film or more film. Hit 155 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 1: me up after the show. Oh all right, nice, good news, Um, 156 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: But that's probably where I would stand. Yack Rousseau from 157 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: Miami is very interesting. Yeah, I don't trust it at all, um, 158 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: and god, I mean that you have to see more 159 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: and you can't. You can't see more, like it's not there. 160 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: You nupped it out. So like he's very interesting. That's 161 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: where I'm at, and that's where I keep leaning going 162 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: back towards you know what if you're stuck there and 163 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: can't move back that's where I end up on Pina 164 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: Seul And I'm okay doing that because up there, I'm 165 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: going to take the best player on my board. I 166 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: would love to go defense. But what's up there in 167 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: the draft that's out of my control. So I can 168 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: sit here and gripe and moan about, well, there's nothing 169 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: I'm picking third but the defensive players or debt caliber. Well, 170 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: it's out of your control, dude. So like, but I 171 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: think another thing about this, like is wherever you're drafting at, 172 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: there could be action when it comes to trading down 173 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: when you're picking at thirty six as well in round two, Yeah, 174 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: like there could be teams calling up you could get 175 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: some extra picks there as well. So I mean, I 176 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: think there is a ton of value to picking. You know, well, 177 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 1: if we all know it, it's it's it's not rocket science. 178 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: The better pick you have, the better chance you have 179 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: it at success. If you're doing things you're right. That 180 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: being said, I totally think the Cowboys are gonna beat 181 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: the Bengals on Sunday. I do believe that. So, you know, 182 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if the third pick is very realistic. 183 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: I truly mean that. Well, and to what Dane is 184 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: t well. I guess Dame's asked my defensive players, but 185 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 1: we always end up settling back on offensive players have 186 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: the way this thing feels. And I just want to 187 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: point out for all to talk about Sewell, if he's 188 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: the best non quarterback, the second best non quarterback might 189 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: be Rashaan Slater, the Northwestern offensive tackle. So you might 190 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: be looking at something where because I mean, his tape 191 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: is awesome, Chase Young knows who he is. I promise 192 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: he had played against Chase Young and he played really well. 193 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: So that's that's the weird world we live in where 194 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: I think a lot of cowboy fans are going to 195 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: look at it and say, I don't want to use 196 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: another high pick on the offensive line. And I'm going 197 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: to tell you, if you get stuck, your two best 198 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: and safest picks might be on the offensive line's outfits. 199 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: Let's go. Is that kind of the thing that we're 200 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: looking for in the Lord draft, though, because if you're 201 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: looking at a top five pick right now that that 202 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 1: talent is offensive side of the football, it really is. Dane, 203 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: and I know you've you mocked a corner and Caleb 204 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: Farley in your first mock draft, But is it just 205 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: really at least at this point in the draft process. 206 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: Things of course can change between now in April it's 207 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty nine days. But is it reaching 208 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 1: on pretty much every defensive player that we've said? Is 209 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: that one of the reasons why you asked that question. 210 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: It's not reaching in the context of this draft class 211 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: and what has to offer. You know, it's like Jeff 212 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: was saying, ideally the caliber of playing the caliber of 213 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 1: player you're getting a little bit later in other drafts. 214 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 1: In this draft, you can't help that these are the 215 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: players that are available for you. So in this draft, 216 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: you know, Caleb Farley is the fourth player drafted. It's 217 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:48,239 Speaker 1: not necessarily a reach because in this draft you absolutely 218 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: can justify it. So yeah, and I agree with what 219 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 1: Jeff was saying about the tackles, you know, with Penney 220 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: Sewell and Rashawn Slater. I mean those have been tackle 221 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: one and two for me since the summer. I mean 222 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: it's pretty clear cut in my mind. Slater, I think 223 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: is not going to be as universally loved because he 224 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: has thirty two and a half inch arms and you know, 225 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 1: he just he's gonna get dinged up a little bit 226 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: throughout the draft process. But the guy can play. He's 227 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: an outstanding player. Body coordination, the aggressiveness, the technique. You know, 228 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: sign me up. I think he's got a position versatility, 229 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 1: even more so than maybe Penna Suel does. So huge 230 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: Slater fan, and I think Katsy made a good point 231 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: as well about that third pick you know had. It's 232 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: not just for the first round, but in the second 233 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: round too. If you have an early pick, what if J. C. 234 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: Horne were to fall a little bit, maybe you make 235 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: a move up, Maybe you get Penny Suel at three, 236 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: and then you trade back up into the first round 237 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: to get JC Horn. You know, I think he just 238 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: gives you more options. So I agree with Kats that 239 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys win this weekend. But at the 240 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: same time, be awfully nice to have that third pick. 241 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: Kats tell me about Penny. So what have you seen 242 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: from the Oregon offensive tackle? I mean, this is another 243 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: guy that was an opt out. And we mentioned the 244 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 1: opt out with Brian, Bucky and Dave in the first show. 245 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 1: But does it scare you to say that, hey, one, 246 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna take an offensive player and not address the 247 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: countless holes on this defense. But two, we're not just 248 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: doing that. We're taking a player that hasn't played since 249 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. But what makes him special enough to actually 250 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: make that pick? Yeah? No, it does make you a 251 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: little a little an I don't if nervous as the word, 252 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: because they if you like the guy and you've scattered him, 253 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: you like him, you draft him and you feel fine 254 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: about it. But you start looking at like asset allocation 255 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: and things like that. You know. I gotta be honest, 256 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: going into that Tuesday night game against Baltimore, I thought 257 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton was gonna get sacked like ten times, ended 258 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: up giving them up one sack. I justs a Baltimore 259 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: team that blitz is more than any team in the league. 260 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: Like I thought that. I thought that night was a 261 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: night that showed the offensive line depth is pretty good. Now, 262 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: you don't want all these guys arty and you hope 263 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: that you get tiring and Lyle back, and that's ideally 264 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 1: what you have. But you know, the first thing that 265 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: jumps out if you have any type of roster situation 266 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: with Tyring Lyle's hip going forward is I feel very 267 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: comfortable with Pinney Soool playing guard if he needed to 268 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: do that for one year or two years, not like 269 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: moving guys around a lot, but feel very comfortable he 270 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: could do that. I mean, his power is very evident. 271 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: I mean you see him crashing down on the on 272 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: the down block and just creating a lot of space. 273 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: And I mean this not really not in a disrespectful manner, 274 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: but we have a running back will be on this 275 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: roster that quite frankly needs a lot of space. Um, 276 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: So that's something that that he could do. And I 277 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: think his ability to work in space is there as well. 278 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: I mean for a three hundred and thirty pound guy, 279 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: he just moves better than most guys do it that size. 280 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: So I think he's got really good hands. We hardly 281 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: ever see him go to the ground. I mean, I 282 00:14:56,040 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: think he is a really really strong prospect. I don't 283 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. This is where the scouting part gets weird, 284 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: because I gotta have people who are almost in a 285 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: private investigator like style knowing what he's been doing in 286 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Because if you're not playing, it's very hard 287 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: to you know, stay in game shape. So I think 288 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: you got to keep your eyes on those guys, especially 289 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: the guys you're three hundred and thirty pounds, Jeff, if 290 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: you were to be taken by the Cowboys and the 291 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: Cowboys elected to go offensive line, what would the jumble 292 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: of that offensive line look like? Because you're not gonna 293 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: get rid of Tyrants Man, Tyrant Smith's gonna be here, 294 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: Lyle Collins is going to be here. What would you 295 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: do in order to fit pen a soul into a system? 296 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: Would you move him to guard? Would you move Tyrant 297 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: Smith to write tackle Collins to guard? Where where would 298 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: we go? If it were the Cowboys standpoint? I guess 299 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: you'd have options if you wanted to. You could always 300 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: play Lyle Collins at guard. But I think for me, 301 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: initially you would be using a top five pick and 302 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: you would be putting your guy at left guard, and 303 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: that's where Pinna Sewel would line up. And I think 304 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: he could do it because you know, the Cowboys ask 305 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: a lot of their guards in terms of the combo 306 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: blocks and getting to the next level and all those 307 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: different things, and I think Piney Seul is actually really 308 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: good at those things. The athleticism. What I really like 309 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: about him is that he plays with a level of 310 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: what I calls pissed off adness. He wants. He wants 311 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: you to end up on the ground. He wants to 312 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: help people. So in my opinion, you would you'd be 313 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: putting him at left guard, assuming everybody else is good 314 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: to go, and if he needed to transition a tackle 315 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: at some point that he would. But I think I 316 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: think he could play guard, and I think that he 317 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: would be good at it. I think he's absolutely fine 318 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: in a phone booth. But to Dane's point, you know, 319 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: he also has he's a house, he's a monster, and 320 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: the arms are probably going to be a Dane guest 321 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: thirty five and a half inches like he's he's an 322 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: absolute house. So he'll end up as a tackle. But 323 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: if he's got to be a guard for a while, 324 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: then so be it. And I like the way that 325 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: Kat said that he can move a little bit, and 326 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: you're calling him a house, so he's a mobile home. 327 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: It's mobile home Pina over on the West Coast, I 328 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: guess whenever it comes to that left tackle spot. But 329 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: it's interesting because, like we said at the top of 330 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: the show, the loser of this game most likely will 331 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: have the number three overall pick, or at least a 332 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: really really good shot of it entering the final three 333 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: weeks of the year. If not, the Cowboys could be 334 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: picking right around six, seven, eight nine, depending on how 335 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 1: they fare against the rest of the NFC East in 336 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,239 Speaker 1: the last couple weeks of the season. But when we 337 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: come back, let's start answering some of these fan questions. 338 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: We have some Twitter on the twenty coming up. 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I'm Kyle Yeomans and Dane. 383 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: You brought up an interesting point in the middle of 384 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 1: the break, and I wanted to hit it really quickly 385 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: before we get into Twitter on the twenty But where 386 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: would Pinney Sewell sit if this were the twenty nineteen 387 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 1: or excuse me, twenty twenty draft, last year's draft, in 388 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: terms of the tackles that were available, Yeah, and we 389 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: have to preface that with reminding people how great that 390 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: tackle class was last year. I mean, we had five 391 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: in the top twenty picks, and so far they've they've 392 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: lived up to it, and you know, even Andrew Thomas 393 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: is coming around, and I think it's fair to say that. 394 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: You know, there were different orders for different teams. The 395 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: Giants thought Andrew Thomas was the best of the group. 396 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: Other teams had different orders. But for me personally, I 397 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: know Sewell would have he'd be probably the fourth best 398 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: tackle among last year's class. He'd be Jedrick Wills was 399 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 1: by far. It was a clear cut one for me, 400 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: and then Trip Worse was the clear cut two. Beckton 401 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: was right there behind him at three, and I think 402 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: Sewell would be He'd be right there duking out with 403 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: Beckton for that third spot. So I think, more than 404 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: anything else, that kind of sums up the non quarterback 405 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: group of prospects we have this year. There's definitely talent, 406 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: but in terms of the elite, high end talent, it's 407 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: just not the same as we've had in past years 408 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: and which you would expect for a top five pick. 409 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: And I think that kind of sums it up. And Jeff, 410 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: you had him at three last year, or you would 411 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: have had him at three behind Worse. Yeah, I think 412 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: for me he would have been. It would mine would 413 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: have been Will's Worse's Sewell actually had Thomas ahead of Beckton. 414 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: I was too low on McKay Beckton. So yeah, I 415 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: think Piney Sewell would have been my third offensive tackle. 416 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: And you know, what are you gonna do about it? 417 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,959 Speaker 1: The players available or the players available? But still, if 418 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna have that off yere where you're destroyed by injury, 419 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: why can't I have Asa? What can I have? Miles 420 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 1: Character younger Jalen Ramsey? Why don't I get to have 421 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: nice things? I don't know. It's it's probably one of 422 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,719 Speaker 1: the more depressing storylines of this twenty twenty one NFL 423 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: draft is like the one chance you get a chance 424 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 1: at a top five pick, and it's like, oh, well, 425 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: so much for that. That's kind of how I know. 426 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: I mean, why can't I have a T J. Watt? 427 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: Why can't I have a T J? Watt? Kyle? Can 428 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: I Can I have one of those? Yeah? I can't 429 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: have one of those? No, I mean he was See, 430 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: that's the thing. We can get these guys wherever we're 431 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: gonna find him, We're gonna draft him up. We're gonna 432 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: get it right this year. I like that. Cowboys fans 433 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: like that. I like that let's turn things around, and 434 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: by turning things around, that gives us a chance to 435 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 1: go to Twitter on the twenty. I don't know if 436 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: we have the sounder in the back? Do we have 437 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: the sounder? Chris beam t Wow, that was kind of 438 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: actually great. Uh. Jeff kind of led into the sounder, 439 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 1: so it ended up working out well, so that that works. 440 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: So there's Twitter on the twenty for the first time. 441 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: Here in the twenty twenty one edition of the Dallas 442 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: Cowboys Draft Show, And this first one comes from Johnny 443 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: on Twitter, and he says, if the Cowboys don't pick 444 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: our man pin a soul in the top five, what's 445 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: the likelihood that they go all defense in this draft? 446 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: We'll start with kat on this one. I wouldn't say 447 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: that it's out of the question. I hate they'll probably 448 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: draft some form of an offensive lineman because they do 449 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: like doing that and they've proven to be pretty good 450 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: at it quite frankly. But yeah, no, I if you're 451 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: putting some like Vegas odds on there, I don't think 452 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: it's a terrible longshot to think that they go all defense. Look, 453 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: it's it's evident the number of players on this roster 454 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: who are on their defensive stuff now that you would 455 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: even want back next year. It's hard to even make 456 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,360 Speaker 1: a list of all the guys that you would even 457 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: want back on the team. So yeah, they're gonna attack 458 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball if possible. So yeah, 459 00:23:55,720 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: I think it's pretty likely. Man, I think it's pretty 460 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: unorthodox to go all defense. But I hate this little 461 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 1: a little more unusual than other years. They needed so 462 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: much help, Jeff, they need it, like, yeah, they need 463 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: a ton. But I would just guessing here with I 464 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: believe they'd be projected right now to have nine draft picks. 465 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: I would imagine at least one of them in one 466 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,239 Speaker 1: of those rounds ends up being a wide receiver, tight end, 467 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: or an offensive lineman. I think most of their valuable 468 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 1: picks in this draft will be defense because that makes 469 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 1: all the sense in the world, because they needs so 470 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: much help. They could use corner help, safety help, I 471 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: would say, linebacker help, defensive tackle help, and I'm always 472 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: here to draft pass rushers, so literally every position on 473 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: defense could use some attention from the Cowboys. But I'm 474 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: just I'm playing odds with what would could be nine picks. 475 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: Maybe they trained down, maybe they have more than nine picks, 476 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: at least one of I'll end up being some kind 477 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: of receiver or offensive lineman or tight end. Yeah, it 478 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: doesn't happen often, but we saw the Panthers do it 479 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: last year. They went all defense with their uh, with 480 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: their lottery of picks. So you know, I think last 481 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 1: year we saw after the CD Lamp pick, they went 482 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 1: defensive heavy, and it's that's probably gonna be what we 483 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: see this year. Whether they might go offense early if 484 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: if they feel like an offensive lineman is the pick 485 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,479 Speaker 1: in the first round, but then it's gonna be defense, defense, defense, Uh, 486 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,479 Speaker 1: it's gonna it's gonna be and they need it. They 487 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 1: need depth at every level, at every position, and they 488 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: need to find more impact players, uh you know, someone 489 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 1: to pair with Digs, maybe another safety. They need help 490 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: at linebacker to stop the run. Then of course depth upfront. 491 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's gonna be a very very defensive heavy draft. Well, 492 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 1: you know, real quick on off I'm sorry, Kyle, real 493 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 1: quick though. On off it's some of the names that 494 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 1: you would be seeing as free agents. It's like the 495 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 1: Nolah Browns of the world, do Cedric Wilson's of the world, 496 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 1: The Bells of the world. Maybe that's the area what 497 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: you're trying to replace, or guys who're way further down 498 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: on the depth chart. We're on defense, you're looking for starters, 499 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: immediate backups, guys who are going to give you a 500 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: lot of snaps, so they that kind of changes things 501 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: a little bit and what they would even be looking 502 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: for on offense. Jeff, I know you guys talked about 503 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 1: this on your show on gbag Nation the other day, 504 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: but I mean, you're looking at this is what Katja said, 505 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 1: But it's multiple starters. I mean, it's the Xavier Woods, 506 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: it's the Cheetah Owoozier's, it's the I mean, the pretty 507 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: much the entire secondary is gonna have to take an overhaul, 508 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: with the exception of Anthony Brown, Treyvon Diggs, and Donovan Wilson. 509 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what you're having to draft. And you're 510 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: gonna have, to your point earlier, one, two, three, maybe 511 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 1: four comp picks to go along with your six picks 512 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: that you have Byron Jones is most likely going to 513 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 1: net you a third Robert Quinna, fourth, Randall Cobb, maybe 514 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: a fifth. That's kind of a borderline thing. And then 515 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 1: Jeff Heath probably a six or a seven. So I 516 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: mean there's comp picks coming, there's darts for the dark board, 517 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: as you always like to say it, But you're still 518 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: having to find starters with these pigs. Yeah, and that's 519 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 1: the challenge. I think you have to be realistic when 520 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: you talk about an NFL draft. If you, let's say 521 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 1: you use your first round pick, second round pick, third 522 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: round pick, in your third round cop pick, so four 523 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: picks in the top one hundred and thirty ish picks, 524 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: and you use them all on defense. The odds of 525 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 1: getting four rookie starters out of that are very slim. 526 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: But the Cowboys do have to find a way, at 527 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: least if they don't bring back any of the guys 528 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: that are pending free agents. You have to replace at 529 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: least one starting corner, at least one starting safety. You 530 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: don't have to replace your defensive tackles. But I think 531 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: people would be interested in an upgrading if you could 532 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 1: find an opportunity there Alden Smith one edge there, so 533 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: they Yeah, there's a lot. If you look at the 534 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: last week's game and you look at that Cowboys defense, 535 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 1: I would contend that only three or four of the 536 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: eleven starters on defense are going to be Cowboys starters 537 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: on defense next year. That's a Chadam Field. So there's 538 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 1: a ton to do that and I think that all 539 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: plays into why I have fun with it. And people 540 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 1: might think it's a bit, it's not a bit. I 541 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: want this team to trade down. I want this team 542 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: to end up with four or five top sixty picks 543 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: if they can find a way to that. I want 544 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: you to find a way to think, hey, I can 545 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: find a starting safety, a starting corner, and a starting 546 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: d tackle pick whatever position groups or however, whatever are 547 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: you going to do in this But I think it's 548 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: really important for this team to be able to find 549 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: something like that out of this draft class. It's gonna 550 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,239 Speaker 1: be I mean, they found plenty of starters in the 551 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: twenty twenty draft. I mean Tyler Beatat, Ceedee Lamb. I 552 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: mean Nevill Gallimore is starting right now. He's probably not 553 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: a starter next year, if you if we're being honest 554 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: with ourselves, Trayvon Diggs though, So there's three at least 555 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: right there that the Cowboys could have maybe four moving forward. 556 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: But drafting starters is the key to the whole bus 557 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: and I think that's something that the Cowboys just haven't 558 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: necessarily had lately, and they hit well in twenty twenty. 559 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: Got to do it a second year in a row. Okay, 560 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: So the second question comes from mister Vallejos on Twitter, 561 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: and he says, what is a reasonable trade down spot 562 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: for Micah Parsons to feel comfortable about the Cowboys drafting him? Dane, 563 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: what you got on this one? Well, to realistically get 564 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: Michael Parsons, you can't move down too far. You know, 565 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: we can have the the off ball linebacker conversation and 566 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: you know where where the value is for that position, 567 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: but if you could find an impact guy at that 568 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: you know, and it was a couple of years ago 569 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: we saw you know, Devin Waito five, Devin Bush go 570 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: ten overall. So it's not like it's unheard of to 571 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: see these off ball linebackers go in the top ten. 572 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: I think we're talking somewhere in the eight to twelve range. 573 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: You know, you look at Miami, They've got Houston's pick 574 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: right now, it's at number nine, and I think Brian 575 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: Flores would love to add Michael Parsons to that group. 576 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: The Lions at twelve, they could really use an impact 577 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: player at linebacker. So you know, you can't move back 578 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: too far. But what Michael Parsons that I one hundred 579 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: percent understand the conversation about the off ball linebacker and 580 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,719 Speaker 1: the value, but Michael Parsons he brings a little bit 581 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: more than that, I think because of his rush value, 582 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: just all the different ways you can utilize a talent 583 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, it does he need to grow and 584 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: develop and coverage. Sure, he's still a player who's piecing 585 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: things together and learning how to play the position, but 586 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: you know, six three, two forty five, and you know 587 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: he's he's going to put up measurables and testing numbers 588 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: that are comparable to Bobby Wagner. So you know, you're 589 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: talking about a pretty encouraging player right there. And you know, 590 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: we can we can quibble about the value all day, 591 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: but if you can get someone like that in the 592 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: top eight to ten or eight to twelve picks, you 593 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: feel good about that, especially for this team with the 594 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: way the linebacker position looks right now. Yeah, you know, 595 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: and I love Michael Parsons and feel like you've got 596 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: that that feeling that he's just going to continue to 597 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: get better and better and better, and some of the 598 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: inconsistencies that you might see on tape or just things 599 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: that he'll grow out of. And the thing that I 600 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: would say is, and I'm not, you know, three hundred 601 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: players deep, right, so I need to I need to. 602 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: We've got a lot of work to do here. But 603 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: like you look around the league and you're seeing a 604 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: lot of linebackers really standing out that have been you know, 605 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: late Day two, guys, you're guys you've seen you know, 606 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: early day three. I think of, you know, Fred Warner 607 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: in San Francisco is the best, you know, one of, 608 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: if not the best linebacker in the league right now. 609 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: And you know, I think we all liked him a 610 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: little bit when we scattered him, but I don't know 611 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: if we were thought, oh wow, he's going to turn 612 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: into a star. And I know that's just like one example, 613 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: but I feel like the linebacker position I've treated a 614 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: lot like maybe maybe unfairly so, I treated a lot 615 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,959 Speaker 1: like the running back position. I just feel like that 616 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: is something that you can wait on a little bit. 617 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: And I understand you start talking about depth of draft, Well, 618 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: when you use that for wide receivers, you can use 619 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: that for we're talking even about offensive tackles in this class. 620 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: There may be some pretty good offensive tackles which you 621 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: get down to their second and third tier. I don't personally, 622 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: I'd like to see how you feel about this, JEF. 623 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,719 Speaker 1: I just personally, and I know, like Roquan Smith's, you know, 624 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: making place for the Bears and he was picked eighth 625 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: and all that stuff, I don't have a ton of 626 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: interest in taking linebacker in the first round again, or 627 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: at least early in the first round. I think, generally speaking, 628 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: I agree with you, But I also because I've kind 629 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: of been going back and forth on this over the 630 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: last couple of days, because it's not like a great 631 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: linebacker doesn't significantly impact your team. I think what's happened 632 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: is the guys that teams have taken super high haven't 633 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: necessarily ended up being the best or most impactful linebackers 634 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: in the league. And so I think we got to 635 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: be careful not to hold that against the players who 636 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: were picked higher, just because somebody either made a mistake 637 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: in picking or we were wrong about who is going 638 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: to develop how fast. If the Cowboys aren't to believe 639 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: at whatever pick they have that Michael Parsons is going 640 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: to make the biggest impact on their team over the 641 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: next two, three, four or five years out of everybody available, 642 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: and they make that pick. Yeah, for the most part, 643 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: most of my brain tells me that position I would 644 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: rather not be picking that high. But we've gone over 645 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: and over they do I feel better about picking QUITTI pay? 646 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: Do I feel better about picking JC Horne? Because sure, 647 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: I would much rather pick a great pass rusher or 648 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: a great cornerback then I would a linebacker. But you 649 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: also got to deal with what's in this draft. So yeah, 650 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: I'm for the most part, I don't want an off 651 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: ball linebacker and the definitely not in the top five, 652 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,359 Speaker 1: not in the top ten. But you also you got 653 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 1: to deal with what you got, and what you have 654 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 1: in this draft class is not a corner or pass 655 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: rusher that I feel great about in the top ten. 656 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: So you do what you think is best. And we're 657 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 1: gonna talk about some of those top ten corners and 658 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 1: edge rushers coming up here in just a little bit. 659 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 1: But I really, really, really quickly want to get to 660 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: one more Twitter on the twenty question. This comes from 661 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: our guy Matt, who always says fantastic questions, but he says, 662 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: if the Cowboys keep their pick in the top ten. 663 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: Let's say and they take Certan out of Alabama the corner. 664 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: Is he already better than Treyvon Diggs, a former teammate 665 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 1: of his at the collegiate level, at Katie, what do 666 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: you think about that? Do you think that Certan is 667 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: better than Diggs right now? I mean, I think I 668 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: think you still need that, like your experience in the 669 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: NFL and things like that. But I think Trevan digs 670 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: some more al players probably gonna come away with more 671 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: turnovers and things like that, or more ball skills. With Certain, 672 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 1: I think he is. I think I think he's solid. 673 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: Now he's not again, I'm not fist pumping really uh 674 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: watching his tape and wanting to take him in the 675 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: top five or or top six, seven or eight or whatever. 676 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: I think you've got a solid player. I worry a 677 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: little bit about how how flexible he is. I worry 678 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 1: a little bit. I mean, he seems a little tight 679 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: to me. Um, but six two two h five, you 680 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 1: know that he uh does have the speed that can 681 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: they can match up. I just I'm pretty nervous about Certain, 682 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: to be honest, like, and I don't want to like 683 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 1: be a generic and go in but the bloodlines and like, 684 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 1: well yeah, but like his dad's like not like his 685 00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: dad played a long time ago. Like I hope he's 686 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: as good as his dad. But I mean so I 687 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 1: get I get kind of nervous with watching curtain too. 688 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: I like Farley quite a bit more than than certain Wow, um, 689 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: I see, I see clearly. I see the athleticism and 690 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,840 Speaker 1: a little more flexibility uh in the hips with Farley 691 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: and and I feel like the plays on the ball 692 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: with with Farley a little more more range when he's 693 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 1: dropping into his zone and things like that. But you know, 694 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 1: I look, it's real close. I'm not I'm like, I'm 695 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,919 Speaker 1: not like pounding the table for Farley cornerback one. I'm 696 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 1: I'm very nervous. I would say that, Jeff, what do 697 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: you think I think Curtan? I'll say I think Curtan 698 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: is a better I think he probably would be a 699 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 1: better player than Diggs. Immediately, I trust Patrick Curtan a lot. 700 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:53,280 Speaker 1: My issue, well not even an issue with him, Uh, 701 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,919 Speaker 1: I like him. I think My thing is I think 702 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 1: he's a better player than Caleb Farley. And it's not 703 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:04,280 Speaker 1: close with Farley. My thing is that you see him 704 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,879 Speaker 1: physically moving around, and when he's at his best, you 705 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: see a guy that you're like, oh yeah, that's like 706 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,800 Speaker 1: when Katie's talking about flexibility, Like there's there's an element 707 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: of wiry, of twitched up athlete, there's an element of 708 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 1: you could see Caleb Farley as the guy with the 709 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: best chance to turn into that team's number one receiver. 710 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: Follow him everywhere he goes. You can see the opportunity 711 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 1: for that. So I like Certain the player better than Farley, 712 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: but I may end up with Farley the prospect ahead 713 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 1: of Curtan. That's kind of the debate for me on 714 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: those two. Yeah, I think that that's basically is how 715 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,720 Speaker 1: I look at it. Too Farley. Now, I like Certain 716 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: a lot. I have Farley just above Certain in my 717 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 1: cornerback rankings one and two, and for the reasons that 718 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 1: you mentioned, just the overall ceiling the athlete that he is. 719 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: But look, Patrick, Curtan and I do agree he would 720 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 1: be better than Digs from day one, and really it 721 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 1: comes down to his knowledge of the position. When you're 722 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 1: talking about Farley, you're talking about Digs. You're talking about 723 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,919 Speaker 1: guys that transitioned from the offensive side of the ball 724 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,919 Speaker 1: to the defensive side of the ball with Curtan. He's 725 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 1: been groomed since he was a toddler to play on 726 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 1: defense and play the corner position. Son of a pro bowler. 727 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 1: I love what I love the most about Curtan. He 728 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,720 Speaker 1: doesn't panic down the field. He stays balanced, he stays 729 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 1: in phase. He will get his head turned to find 730 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,320 Speaker 1: the football. He's not an elite play strength guy. He 731 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 1: doesn't have elite twitch, but he's smooth, he's instinctive, and 732 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,800 Speaker 1: I feel like when I watched Curtan, the game slows 733 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 1: down for him more than most corners. And that's why 734 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 1: to me, he's a top ten player in this draft. 735 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 1: And if you're the Cowboys and you come away with 736 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,919 Speaker 1: Patrick Curtan in the first round, you're feeling really good 737 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,720 Speaker 1: that you have a starting level corner for the foreseeable future. 738 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 1: And I think these are two guys that are going 739 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,320 Speaker 1: to go back and forth pretty much throughout the draft process, 740 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,240 Speaker 1: because once you get a chance to see Curtan test 741 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,360 Speaker 1: and you'll see Farley kind of get back on the 742 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 1: field a little bit and after his opt out season, 743 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,240 Speaker 1: these guys are gonna flip flop back and forth between 744 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 1: the number one, number two corners Right now, I have 745 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 1: certain above Farley. I just like the soundness of his 746 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,279 Speaker 1: game a little bit more so than what I've seen 747 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 1: from Farley in twenty nineteen. I would have loved to 748 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,919 Speaker 1: see twenty twenty Farley tape. I'll say that right now. 749 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,800 Speaker 1: I'm kind of a sleeper though at the cornerback position. 750 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,720 Speaker 1: Derrion Kindrick out of Clemson. I think this guy needs 751 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 1: to be higher on a lot of draft boards from 752 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 1: what I saw earlier last week. But we can get 753 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 1: into that later on as well. We're gonna step aside 754 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 1: because we're running along here on the second segment. Thanks 755 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,720 Speaker 1: for all your Twitter questions for Twitter on the twenty 756 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: this week. We'll bring it back on Tuesday in our 757 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 1: next show. But when we come back, we'll wrap things 758 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 1: up and give you some stand out edge rushers. When 759 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 1: we return here on the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, 760 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 1: We're back in a tasty treat that's sweeping airwaves and 761 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 1: taste buds. It's new Doctor Pepper and cream Soda. Let's 762 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:56,319 Speaker 1: take a listen, Doctor pet cream Soda. Is he a 763 00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 1: Newcombone's music to my ears? 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Ceedee Lamb fell where Ceedee Lamb fell 800 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 1: in history was made. But I want to know who's 801 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 1: potentially a top edge rusher in this year's class if 802 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 1: the Cowboys should be in a position to take one. 803 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 1: So I want two from each of you, guys. Will 804 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 1: start with Jeff here who you got as your top 805 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: two edge rushers At the moment, my top edge rusher 806 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 1: is a Z's Ojilari, and I'm sure Dane will correct 807 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: me if I'm pronouncing anything wrong, but he's number thirteen 808 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 1: at Georgia, and I wasn't all that familiar with him 809 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 1: other than of course Dane Burglar, who is the best 810 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 1: in the world. Checking his rankings is kind of how 811 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 1: I end up going through and watching these guys. But 812 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,879 Speaker 1: Ojelari seems like he was kind of a riser this year, 813 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,799 Speaker 1: so I was watching him is Alabama twenty twenty game 814 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,319 Speaker 1: and going against Alex Leatherwood and able to beat him 815 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 1: as a pass rusher, and he's like six two two 816 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 1: forty one, I believe is what we got him listed at, 817 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 1: but plays stronger than that, has the athleticism you won 818 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 1: as a pass rusher. So Aziz Ojulari is my number 819 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 1: one at the moment, and then Quitty pay Michigan would 820 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 1: be my second one at the moment. I want to 821 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,959 Speaker 1: see if he tests physically the way that they say 822 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,799 Speaker 1: he will, because I've never seen a pass rusher run 823 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:40,239 Speaker 1: a six three three cone, so I want to see 824 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,400 Speaker 1: if he gets anywhere near that, And I'm going to 825 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,319 Speaker 1: cheat here and throw in that Joseph Osai not far 826 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 1: off Texas. Hey, cheater, No, No, I like both of 827 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 1: those guys that Jeff mentioned. I have quitty pay a 828 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 1: little higher than Ojulari right now, but still, you know, 829 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 1: sifting through some things. I'll go ahead and throw out 830 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 1: Gregory Russo from Miami had fifteen Hey Hey, hey, he said, hey, hey, hey, sorry, 831 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 1: he said each he said, each of us, throw out two. 832 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 1: You're right, I apologize. You took some of my guys. 833 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,839 Speaker 1: Now you're right, you can't play them. Actually, I wasn't 834 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,640 Speaker 1: gonna say either of your guys. Gregory Russo of Miami 835 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,759 Speaker 1: fifteen and a half sacks in twenty nineteen. To me, 836 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 1: the way they moved him around all over, all over 837 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,919 Speaker 1: the defensive line was very interesting, the way they use him. 838 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 1: And he's also young. I mean he's opted out of 839 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 1: this year. UM, so you don't have a ton on 840 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 1: him because he got hurt his freshman year. So his 841 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 1: sophomore year, um, he Playton had a great year, almost 842 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:54,840 Speaker 1: had twenty tackles for a loss. Um he's six seven 843 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 1: two fifty three, although he could be six eight he's 844 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,759 Speaker 1: still growing boy, right, so he could be six eight, 845 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 1: six eight and a half six foot nine. I mean, like, 846 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 1: this guy's gonna have to stay lower. That said, the 847 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,840 Speaker 1: times you see him lose, he's playing too high, but 848 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,879 Speaker 1: that's not every time. That's not every time. So like 849 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,239 Speaker 1: there's a interesting way if you want to have him 850 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,080 Speaker 1: as an I don't think he's a standard Hey man, 851 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 1: you're my right defensive end all the time. I think 852 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,360 Speaker 1: he's more of a defensive chess piece. But there's that 853 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 1: can be fun and you can see him win with 854 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 1: his quickness, and I think he's got good awareness for 855 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,960 Speaker 1: his lack of time as a pass rusher. There was 856 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 1: a play in the Pittsburgh game of twenty nineteen or 857 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 1: he's rushing, trying to go around the offensive tackle and 858 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,759 Speaker 1: the quarterback steps up in the pocket and he redirects 859 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,360 Speaker 1: the offensive tackle with his left arm, is able to 860 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 1: step up in the pocket and get the quarterbacks the 861 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 1: quarterback kind will opening up in the pocket, and that 862 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,880 Speaker 1: quickness is that that's just winning as an athlete, and 863 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 1: I love to see that. So I'm a I'm a 864 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,400 Speaker 1: fan of Ruce, but I'm not in love with Rousseau. 865 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 1: I want to be like hyper clear because you said 866 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,279 Speaker 1: a lot to figure out about him. How is his 867 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:12,040 Speaker 1: pre draft process gonna be with him having very limited time, 868 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,359 Speaker 1: you know on that defensive line in Miami. I mean 869 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 1: Jeff took three. Jeff cheated, so I mean I was no. No, 870 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 1: I didn't say anything about Osai though. I didn't say 871 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 1: anything about anyways. So we gotta we gotta hurry this up. Okay, 872 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:29,240 Speaker 1: go Dane. People are here for Dane anyways, Go Dane. 873 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:34,799 Speaker 1: Uh real quick on Roussou. He's like a Chandler Jones 874 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,319 Speaker 1: starter pack. I think that there's a lot to like 875 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,719 Speaker 1: about what he could be down the road. But I 876 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,840 Speaker 1: agree with dear, you know, the lack of optimism about 877 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,600 Speaker 1: what he is right now. M Jason Oway from Penn 878 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,440 Speaker 1: State six five, two hundred and fifty five pounds former 879 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:52,080 Speaker 1: basketball player. The freakiness that he offers as a pass 880 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:56,239 Speaker 1: rusher gets you excited bringing juice off the edge. And 881 00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 1: then if I have to name one more, how about 882 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:03,920 Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips out of Miami, who he was the literally 883 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,719 Speaker 1: the number one recruit four years ago, not in a 884 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,360 Speaker 1: not at his position, at any position in the country. 885 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,000 Speaker 1: Was banged up at Ucla concussions, had a really bad 886 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,239 Speaker 1: wrist injury, transfers to Miami this year, and you see 887 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,440 Speaker 1: him started to put things together. I see a guy 888 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,720 Speaker 1: that reminds me a lot of like a Ryan Carrigan type. 889 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,280 Speaker 1: Knows how to use his hands, He's a good athlete. 890 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,600 Speaker 1: He's very smooth. So you know, if the medicals are good, 891 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 1: and that's that's a big if. You know, we're talking 892 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,799 Speaker 1: about another top fifty player. So this is a really 893 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,560 Speaker 1: good edge rusher class. And that's why we pay Dame 894 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 1: Brugler the big bucks whenever it comes to the Dallas 895 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. That's gonna do it for 896 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 1: us here on this weekend in this early morning edition. Now, 897 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,319 Speaker 1: these guys will be back to tuesdays from now on 898 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,600 Speaker 1: the twenty seconds, so you guys get a nice little 899 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:54,080 Speaker 1: early Christmas gift of getting to listen to these guys 900 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,360 Speaker 1: talk about the NFL Draft. But we'll be back on 901 00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:00,960 Speaker 1: I believe Tuesday to talk with Brian Ucky and David 902 00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,479 Speaker 1: Hellman for the next edition of the Dallas Cowboys Draft Show. 903 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,080 Speaker 1: But for now, for Kevin kat Turner, for Dame Bugler 904 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,560 Speaker 1: and Jeff Cavanaugh, I'm Kyle Yoma saying so long from 905 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 1: the Star in Frisco. We'll see you next time on 906 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,720 Speaker 1: the Draft Show. This has been a production of Dallas 907 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,879 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.