1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody. Thursday edition of The Clay Travis en 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. It kicks off right now. Mister Clay 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: is in transit, so he is in the sky. I 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: will be your solo pilot for the next three hours. 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: My co pilot is on another plane. But we've got 6 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: a lot to talk about. He'll be back tomorrow. We'll 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: actually be together here in South Florida doing the show. 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: And in the meantime, I want to bring you up 9 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: to speed on all of the things that are happening 10 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: out there right now, so many of them, so many things, 11 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: so many things happening. You had DHS Secretary Nome up 12 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill, you have business leaders talking to Trump 13 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: about the state of the economy and this affordability question. 14 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: Some people are concerned, and I mean people on our side, capitalists, 15 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: reasonable intelligent people, concerned about how things are looking going 16 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: into the end of the year here and what it 17 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: will mean for the mid terms. Now, for those who 18 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: are saying the concern should be fix the economy, not 19 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 1: the political consequences of problems in the economy, well let 20 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: me tell you something. It's getting a lot worse. If 21 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: Democrats can throw sand in the gears of the Trump administration. 22 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: If they can play spoiler just by having a majority 23 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: in the House, we will get to impeachment number three. 24 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: It will be a circus, the whole thing. So it 25 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: is important that we get into a good place here 26 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: and also that the Trump administration continues to tell everybody 27 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: what the plans are more on immigration and ice enforcement 28 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: as well. We've got some important sound to share with you, 29 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: some some clips to share with you on that. I'm 30 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: going to start off actually with a little bit of 31 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: talk on the economy. There's there's news today that we 32 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: will dive into shortly about a Fed judge now saying 33 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: that Kilmar Abrego Garcia, the alleged MS thirteen gang member 34 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: who for over a year now has been at the 35 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: center of all these administration efforts to deport this guy, 36 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: and it's turned into a huge political football. This has 37 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: turned into a Supreme Court weighing in. God got sound 38 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: to al Salvador. We're gonna send him a bunch of 39 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: other countries, but then we can. And now you've got 40 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: a federal judge saying you gotta let him out right now, 41 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: So we will see. And that's going on while DHS 42 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: Secretary Nome is up on Capitol Hill, so that's certainly 43 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: in our sites and an important story. Let's though, just 44 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 1: for a bit here, talk about where we stand on 45 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: the economy. People are concerned, and I hear that concern 46 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: from many of you that prices are quite high. And 47 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: I understand the challenge here is it's really hard to 48 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: bring down prices once they've gone up considerably, and this 49 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: is a legacy of the madness of COVID. I think 50 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: everyone should keep that in mind. That many of us, 51 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: well not many, some of us. There were even some 52 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 1: conservatives who were pretty bad on the COVID stuff, especially 53 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: on lockdowns and all the rest of it. We're saying, 54 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: you can't just tell people stay home, don't do anything 55 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: in print money, and then you can't just spend as 56 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 1: much money as you want to juice the economy after 57 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: that shutdown. Unfortunately, that is largely what happened, and we 58 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: are still dealing with the reality of that. Now. I 59 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: will give you some of these details, or we will 60 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: discuss some of these details. But first up here CNBC, 61 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: this is cut eleven Rick Santelli. He's talking some numbers, 62 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: talking trade deficit. Let's hear from the man over at 63 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: CNBC play it. 64 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 2: Trade billance fit fifty two point eight billion. That's a 65 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 2: better lower trade deficit than we expected. We were looking 66 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 2: for a number closer to sixty two billion, and that 67 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: follows a revised minus fifty nine billion. Minus fifty two 68 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 2: billion would be the lightest going back to Wow, we're 69 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: really going back. Well, my records go back to nineteen 70 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: ninety two, and to find a smaller number than minus 71 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 2: fifty two billion, we're all the way back to June 72 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty. 73 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: So this is important because Trump is establishing a rebalancing 74 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: of our global trade, America's global trade with the tariffs. 75 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 1: And as I've said all along, you don't have to 76 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: be an expert in tariffs to understand that something is up. 77 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: When all of these other countries have tariffs on us, 78 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: we don't have tariffs on really anyone. And we're the 79 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: ones who can't figure this out, or you know, we're 80 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: we're the odd man out. But it's because we're so 81 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: much smarter than every other country, or is it because 82 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: we've been convinced by the globalist elite in our own 83 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: country that entirely free trade that does not take in 84 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: America first perspective. That allows all the offshoring and all 85 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: the stuff that we have seen decimate the American for example, 86 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: American manufacturing sector, auto industry, all these things that that 87 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: is somehow to our benefit. Well it's really to the 88 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: perhaps the stock price benefit of a handful of companies. 89 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: But people are changing their tune on this. They're seeing 90 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: what's really going on. But the problem is prices. The 91 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: problem is that stuff is still expensive and people are 92 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: upset about it. In fact, even here in my home. Well, 93 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: I live in Miami Beaches, you know, and that's next 94 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: door to Miami. I didn't even know this until I've 95 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: moved down here. Technically different cities, they're not part of 96 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: one city. And so Miami proper just elected Downtown Miami 97 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: elected a Democrat for the first time thirty years. And 98 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: it was a combination of two things that we're going 99 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: to have to really get right for the next year 100 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: for the purposes of the midterm election, but also just 101 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: because they will be central I think to the success 102 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: or failure of the Trump agenda in his second term. 103 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: The cost of stuff, particularly housing young people came out 104 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 1: Miami has become incredibly expensive as a City. It used 105 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 1: to be a great deal. I mean, if you were 106 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: smart enough to come here in two thousand and nine 107 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 1: ten and start buying up some condos, you've done phenomenally well. 108 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: Now not so much. But the price of things, especially 109 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: housing in Miami is very high, so that factors in. 110 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: We saw this also in New York City when you 111 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: have Mom. Donnieism largely built around the promise of bringing 112 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: housing prices down. He's going to bring the cost of 113 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: rent down. Now, if you know anything about economics, you 114 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: know that his solutions to these problems will actually make 115 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: things worse. But they sound good, and you can get 116 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: a lot of power by saying things that sound good, 117 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: no matter how bad the results are actually going to be. 118 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: One of the issues we're going to have is that 119 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: going into a midterm year, right, It's we're at the 120 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: end of year one of Trump's second term. Yeah, a 121 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: lot of us can point to the status of the 122 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: Biden economy and what was going on, but that is 123 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: not going to be compelling enough to win in key 124 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: in challenging races. Former SEC chair Jay Clayton had this 125 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: to say about the economy. I thought you should hear this. 126 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: This is cut twelve. The affordability issue is but from 127 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: the twenty two percent increase in prices in inflation under Biden, 128 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: there's this full stop right there. 129 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 3: That's the affordability issue, and you got to be able 130 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 3: to explain that. 131 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: Right, that's right. 132 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 4: And look, I think that with the economic team President 133 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 4: Trump and the economic team led by Scott Dessa, you 134 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 4: have people who very much understand us. And it was 135 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 4: a they were thrown You know what, I would say, 136 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 4: the worst economy for the average American in my adult 137 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 4: lifetime in terms of the like you said, the incredible 138 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 4: increase in prices at the household. 139 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: This is true, and the case has to be made, 140 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 1: but it is not sufficient on its own. All of 141 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: you who call in, write in and say, hey guys, 142 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: hey Clay, hey Buck, this stuff is just too expensive 143 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: where I am, particularly healthcare, housing, education, these things are 144 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: just the price out of control in some aspects depends 145 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: on the product, but groceries. Gas prices are down, but 146 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: many of you and the truckers out there, we love 147 00:08:55,800 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: our truckers, are saying diesel prices are still considerably higher 148 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: than we would want to see them for a robust economy. 149 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: Spending at Christmas time. I've seen some of the data 150 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: on this one. Spending at Christmas time seems to be 151 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: quite a bit down. People are not shelling out the 152 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 1: kind of cash that they did, even compared to last year. Now. 153 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: I think there was tremendous bullions about the economy because 154 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: of Trump's victory. So that explains in part why last 155 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: year people were spending because they thought, oh, we're going 156 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: to have a good economy, and they were right. But 157 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: now it's too full. The challenge ahead on prices, affordability 158 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: a word I'm as I've said along, you have to 159 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: prepare yourself to hear about this more than any of 160 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: us are going to want to. But the power balance 161 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: in DC and therefore the future of the country for 162 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: the next few years is going to be largely determined. 163 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: I think based upon that the two big issues it's 164 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: going to be the affordability and immigration election mid terms. 165 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: That's what's gonna that's what's gonna move the needle. And 166 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: this is Republicans are seeing this early enough. Thankfully, I'm 167 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: not having this talk with all of you in August 168 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: of the election year or September of the election year. Hey, Republicans, 169 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: it's time to make the case. I think they're actually 170 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: seeing this in advance. And they have Scott Besson, who 171 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: is both very good at the job of Treasury Secretary 172 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: and a very good spokesman for what this administration, the Treasury, 173 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: the economy, the Fed, all of this is doing. He's 174 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: a very good mind, a very good mouthpiece on these issues. 175 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: But this is what Democrats are gonna hammer. They're gonna 176 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: hammer the discontent of the prices. Isn't this the most 177 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: classic move that the Democrats could possibly come up with. 178 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: They made it so prices get all jacked up. We 179 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: told them don't We said, don't do it. This is 180 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: going back to twenty twenty one, said don't do it. Guys, 181 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: it's crazy. Don't spend the trillions. We've already put a 182 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: lot of pressure, a lot of heat into the economy 183 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: with all the shutdown spending. And that was under Trump, 184 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: but that was both sides were saying, Oh, the world's 185 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: gonna end, you know, the whole thing. Trump left it 186 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: to the states whether to stay open or not, and 187 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: with the exception of Florida, states generally did not stay open. 188 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: South Dakota state open. But there's not very many people 189 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: in South Dakota. So that was easier. Most states shut down, 190 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: as you know, and so we had to do something. 191 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: There was that whole emergency. But now telling people that 192 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: the worst inflation in forty years started four years ago 193 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: is not really a winning strategy, right or in five 194 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: years ago, whatever, it's that's not enough. I think that, unfortunately, 195 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: is going to be insufficient as part of the narrative 196 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: which brings me to you the solutions and the things 197 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: that Trump and his team are trying to do. Look 198 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: at what has happened on Trey alone. That's why I 199 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: started with that. Look at where he is on tariffs. 200 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: They said, the so called intelligency and Trump's going to 201 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: crash the economy based on the tariffs. He's gonna mess 202 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: everything up. No, in fact, the economy, this stock market 203 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 1: has been booming, but prices have remained high. The only 204 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: way to bring prices down is well, if you want 205 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: to get really technical about it, technical about it, you 206 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: got to see a you can have a cessation of demand, 207 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: or you could have an increase in supply. But the 208 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: best thing that we could see is an increase in 209 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: efficiency of manufacturing of goods and services. And you know, 210 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: and spending and investment, and that's what will bring prices down. 211 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: Mandates the Mamdani approach price controls. Price controls not only 212 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: have made New York City and the whole state of 213 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: California but because of government regulation, but price controls in 214 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: New York City have made real estate far more Anywhere 215 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: where they try this, it makes real estate more expensive. 216 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: And overall, price controls in the economy is part of 217 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,599 Speaker 1: what has destroyed a large part of what destroyed the 218 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: Venezuelan economy. I mean, there's many things, but price controls 219 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 1: is at the heart of it. Oh, we're just gonna 220 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: seize assets, and then we can't make this stuff. We're 221 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: gonna seize the factories, right, this is the Maduro approach. 222 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: We'll seize the factories and we'll make the stuff, but 223 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: we can't make much money off of it, and we're 224 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: not very good at making it, so we'll just say 225 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: it has to cost this. Well, that doesn't work that 226 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: way because you can't make them at that price. I 227 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: guess what happened. Shortages and then the black market comes 228 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: in with the real price. And all of this is 229 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: very well established. But the Trump team has to get 230 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: very dialed in on here is yes, talk about what 231 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: the Biden inflation was, and that's why I played that 232 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: se former SEC chair talk about what the Biden inflation was, 233 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: but also how it is coming down, how it is 234 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: being addressed, and how it is going to get better 235 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: over the next year because of what Trump is doing. 236 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: Republicans gotta focus in on this because it is not 237 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: an overstatement to say if we have a week year 238 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 1: of not just policy, but a week year of messaging, 239 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna say, Republicans, where's the big legislation, guys, 240 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: the big beautiful bill. Okay, it's a spending bill. Where's 241 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: the legislation, where's the you know, the the new approach 242 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: to healthcare. Got to get together on this one and 243 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: make some things happen. If you lose the House and 244 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: you're Donald Trump, then it just turns into, all right, 245 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: we gotta wait for the next election. We gotta wait 246 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: for the you know, the heir apparent of the Republican 247 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: Party to take over for MAGA, because the Democrats will 248 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: just till they will what's the phrase cut off their 249 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: nose to spite their face. I mean, they will just 250 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: make everything stink and then blame it all on Trump. 251 00:14:55,360 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: And you know that. So economy, economy, economy, very very important. 252 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: And we will talk about immigration here shortly. In the 253 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: Abrego Garcia order that has come down, I want to 254 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: talk to you about Saber makes world class non lethal 255 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: self protection tools. 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I want to take some of your calls. 280 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: Uh Ken in Texas wants to chat economy and Trump. 281 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: What's going on? Ken? 282 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 6: Good morning. What's on my mind is is that you know, 283 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 6: you guys are covering the economy and immigration and all 284 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 6: the other modern day issues on your show, and Donald 285 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 6: Trump is going around doing interviews as well as some 286 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 6: of his surrogates. But those interviews are only lasting about 287 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 6: thirty minutes to an hour and they're being edited. On 288 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 6: the other hand, for twenty five four hours a day, 289 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 6: seven days a week. CNN, MSNBC and their Democrat cohorts 290 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 6: are just blaming everything on Donald Trump, which is ridiculous 291 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 6: if you actually pay attention. But the z gen Z 292 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 6: and those and the ladies that actually are voting Democrat, 293 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 6: they get all of their information from CNM, MSNBC and 294 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 6: the View. So how do you counter that in a 295 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 6: year when they're spreading total misinformation and there's only a 296 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 6: few outlets like you and Fox News that are actually 297 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 6: covering real information. 298 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 1: Well, I would say what you're saying is all true, Ken, 299 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: but certainly don't despair. I mean, keep in mind Trump 300 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: is the president and Republicans do have the House in 301 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: the Senate, so we are capable of getting the truth 302 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 1: out and getting the messaging out beyond. And it's more 303 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: so now, I think, than it has been in a 304 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: very long time. The media advantage is much less. But 305 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 1: let me get let me get back into that when 306 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: we come back here to second, Ken, I think you 307 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: raise a very good point. How do we deal with 308 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: the narrative? How do we have a counter narra to 309 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: what they're saying? All right, I've got a day ahead 310 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: of me because I got the show Solow No co 311 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: Pilot today and then I've got a Christmas party down, 312 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: so I'm going to be a busy man, but I 313 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: got plenty of energy thanks to Chalk. That's right, Chalk Spelledhoq, 314 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: Texas based supplement company with the best world class stuff. 315 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: I take it every day and their Male Vitality Stack 316 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: is their single most popular product. 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And then my birthday is 332 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: a few days later, on December the twenty eighth, so 333 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 1: I will not be on air that day, but I 334 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: will be turning. I'm not kidding, I forget right now 335 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: forty four. I will be forty four years old, as 336 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: the gray in my little kind of almost almost appeared 337 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: is indicating I'm getting older. But I'm very excited for 338 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 1: the Christmas season. I've got my in laws here actually 339 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: right now, I'll be seeing more and more family, and 340 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure many of you will too, and that's fantastic. 341 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: So on the one hand, I am in a really 342 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 1: good mood, and I think that it has been a 343 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: great year. I've had a great year. I've loved doing 344 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: this show. And we'll talk more about this next week. 345 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: In the last couple of days i'm live on the 346 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: air with you. Great year for this program, and we're 347 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 1: so thankful for all of you, honestly who listen and 348 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: who are with us through this. I feel blessed that 349 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: I get to do this show every day. I love 350 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,719 Speaker 1: my job. There's no other job that I would rather 351 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: have than this job, which is an incredible thing to 352 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: be able to say. And I say that as somebody 353 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: who was asked at one point to maybe have a 354 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: cabinet level position in the government. I still would rather 355 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: do this job, you know, full stop. I love what 356 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 1: we get to do here. But there's a responsibility with 357 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 1: that as well, of course, not just to do the 358 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: best show possible, but to try to help help save 359 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: the country in what little way we can. There's so 360 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: many competing voices out there, and that then brings me 361 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: to the I keep calling it the food fight. You know, 362 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: there's all this stuff that's happening right now, and I'm 363 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: not even sure how many of you are aware of it. 364 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: You know, you haven't brought it up very much. And 365 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: I always tell you this. Your calls, your emails, even 366 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 1: the ones that don't make it on the air, the 367 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: team reads them, Clay and I read them. So we 368 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: haven't ongoing conversation every day. All the VIP emails, all 369 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 1: the talkbacks, and even if you don't get on the air, 370 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: but you call in and you talk to usually it's 371 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: producer Greg to come on live on the show. He 372 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: tells us what you were going to say, So we 373 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: know where you are as much as we can. And 374 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: we're always trying to be up on your thoughts on 375 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: how the country is going, and we haven't seen very 376 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: much of Hey, where are you on the food fight? 377 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 1: And you know, I really appreciate that, and I like 378 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: it because there is a decency and a maturity in 379 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: this audience that is I think second to none in 380 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: the entire world of media, but also in it's certainly 381 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: in conservative media. I think that you are people who 382 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 1: come at this, this saving of the country, caring about 383 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: the country with so much good faith and enough wisdom 384 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: to know that you don't want your time wasted on 385 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: petty non sense, petty nonsense. So and Clay and I 386 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: talked about this, you know, because we see what's going 387 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: on out there and we choose not to get into 388 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: the into the mudslugging and everything else. Some of these 389 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: are people that are involved that we'd like. Some of them. 390 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: I don't even really know some of them. I don't 391 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 1: want to know. It doesn't really matter. I'm telling you 392 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: about all this one just so you know that we're 393 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: we're for any of you who are asking why haven't 394 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: you gotten into We're trying to save the country here. 395 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: And I don't say that to be grandiose or you 396 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: know what, We're trying to get as many people as informed, 397 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: as fired up, as engaged, and get more people. We 398 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: want more young people. We want digital audience too, we 399 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: want YouTube subscribers, we want you know, as well as 400 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: our fantastic five hundred and sixty something stations. Who's counting. 401 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 1: We are, But we want to focus on what really 402 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 1: matters here. And I just want to say, I think 403 00:22:56,160 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: it is to your tremendous credit that you want to 404 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: as well, because we're not getting a lot of we 405 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 1: don't get a lot of chirping at us about well 406 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 1: what about this crazy thing that this lunatic said. You know, yeah, 407 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: we make fun of the left and the Democrats to 408 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 1: say things, but we don't. I don't get into squabbles 409 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: with people on the right. If you're on my team 410 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: for ninety percent or ninety five percent of stuff, you're 411 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 1: on my team as it pertains to policy, as it 412 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 1: pertains to saving the country. And I just think that 413 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: you give us the latitude in a leeway to continue 414 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: to focus on what matters, which brings me to we 415 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 1: are in a real fight here for the stuff that 416 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 1: is affecting you every day, and I think we're we're 417 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: losing that, am I saying? We the Republicans are losing 418 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: a little bit of ground on this right now? How 419 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: many even new about this? That there are competing Obamacare 420 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 1: plans being voted on right now in the Senate. In fact, 421 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: I think the Republican one just right producer ally just 422 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 1: got voted on and failed. Now, of course that of 423 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: course it failed, that's not the surprise. But they need 424 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: to be talking about what's involved here and now we've 425 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: got these these different plans. This is the stuff that 426 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: really affects your day to day life. You're talking to 427 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: me about prices. Everyone needs to understand Obama Care, which 428 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: was passed with a Senate supermajority. Right remember the disaster 429 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: of the McCain two thousand and eight campaign and a 430 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: huge recession, and you know, the Great Recession, all this stuff, 431 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: they had wide open, wide open pathway to slam through 432 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: whatever they wanted, essentially, and this is what they did. 433 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: They pushed this reorganization of healthcare that has really put 434 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: us on a glide path to single payer. And it's ali, 435 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: I shouldn't say glidepath. It's more like a train that 436 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: has gone off the tracks and is eventually going to 437 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: like implode, right, But they know that that's what has happened. 438 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: There's nothing gliding about this. It's not nice because the 439 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: failures that occur along the way, your family's healthcare premiums, 440 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 1: the cost that you are paying every time you go 441 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: to the doctor, every time you're going to have an 442 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 1: elective surgery or or an emergency surgery, whatever it may be, 443 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 1: all of that is worse now than it was before 444 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: they passed to Obamacare. And you, with your tax dollars, 445 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: but also more specifically specifically with your healthcare premiums that 446 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: you pay, are going to subsidize illegal aliens who aren't 447 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: even supposed to be the country in the first place. 448 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: That's happening. They can pretend it's not happening, but absolutely 449 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 1: is happening because the whole premise of this is that 450 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: people are going people with more. You know, this is 451 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: from each according to his ability, to each according to 452 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: his needs, played out via healthcare, and it's a disaster 453 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: for all of us because it's not increasing. I said, 454 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: how do you deal with costs? How do you make 455 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: stuff cheaper, make more of it, make it more efficiently, 456 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: put more out there, do it better or you have shortages, 457 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: especially with something like healthcare. What they've really done actually 458 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: is incentivize people who have care to use more of it, 459 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: irrespective of the outcomes. The insurance companies get rich on 460 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: this because they have guaranteed customer bases now who have 461 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: no choice and no say. The whole thing is an 462 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 1: absolute mess. And how many people right now even know 463 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: about the dueling Senate bills And the Schumer bill is 464 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: going to just extend the affordable care subsidies. First of all, 465 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: isn't it funny? Notice a trend here. Democrats call it 466 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: the Affordable Care Act, and it has without question, there 467 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: is no counter argument here rooted in numbers, in reality, Okay, 468 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: it has made healthcare far less affordable. Premiums are up 469 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 1: one hundred, one hundred and fifty percent. You want to 470 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: talk about prices, that's something you're gonna be paying every month. 471 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: That affects. By the way, the bottom line, if you 472 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: own a business or you work for a business, that 473 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: is affecting everything because you're expected to you know, you 474 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: gotta have this stuff or you're gonna go beaar and 475 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: then you're just gonna deal with the realities of the 476 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: healthcare system as somebody who's not an illegal alien but 477 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: doesn't have insurance but could have insurance, and the whole 478 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: thing is a mess. So what the Democrats want to 479 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: do is extend the subsidies. Yeah, it is the Unaffordable 480 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,360 Speaker 1: Care Act. And that's the truth. Just like the Inflation 481 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: Reduction Act. Remember under Biden they passed the Inflation Reduction Act. 482 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: Didn't reduce inflation at all. If anything, it increased inflation. 483 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: And the whole bill really wasn't about inflation anyway, they lie. 484 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 1: It is straight out of news speak from orwell, it 485 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,439 Speaker 1: is straight out of the propaganda playbook. By the way, 486 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 1: great time to check one portion of Manufacturing Delusion. That 487 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: really the book is is in thirds. It's brainwashing, it's indoctrination, 488 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 1: it's propaganda, and it's stories and hit stories from my 489 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: life and history about these things. So the back third 490 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: of the book is about propaganda. Go buy this book, 491 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: Manufacturing Delusion. I really mean this. It is worth all 492 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: of you reading. And you know I would not say that. 493 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: People say, Buck, you've been doing this fifteen years, why 494 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: haven't you written a book before? Because I wanted to 495 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: write a book that I cared about. I was going 496 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: to write it. I had the time to write it, 497 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: and I had the ability to make the book matter 498 00:28:55,840 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: because of this platform, because of this radio show, the 499 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, which I share with 500 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: my main man who's up in the sky right now 501 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: on a plane. He's okay, but Clay, that gives me 502 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: the ability to have the critical mass where it's It 503 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: was worth the time because I didn't want to do 504 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: the like how I am defeating the Libs. Buck's way 505 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: to defeat the Libs and you know, and pay someone 506 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: else to write some book that I'm inno that hawk 507 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, you know, I don't call out names. 508 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: People do their own thing, but they're just saturating those 509 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: saturating the conservative book market with forgettable you know, slop 510 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: written by somebody else. That's what's been going on in 511 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: recent years. Just the truth, you know it. I researched, 512 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: I wrote. I put this book together because I think 513 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: it matters. I think that the manipulation of minds to 514 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: political ends, the creation of mass delusion, the playbook to 515 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: do it is the scariest thing we face. Yes, COVID, 516 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: of course is a type or the you know, the 517 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: Pinnacle example that comes to mind for many, but there 518 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: are so many examples of this that play out. There 519 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: are so many aspects of this in our politics today. 520 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: People believe in all kinds of insane stuff, you know, 521 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: and we are increasingly in a world where, you know, 522 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: if you're not saying the most inflammatory conspiratorial people think 523 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: that you're like a sellout. Well, what I always want 524 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: to say to people is how often are we wrong 525 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: on this show? How often have I had to come 526 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: to you or Clay and say, look, we make predictions 527 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: and we like to joke around about that. Although a 528 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: lot of our predictions, you know, end up coming true. 529 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: So but but I'm talking about telling you something that 530 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: is fact or that we know to be true. Then 531 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: we go actually, or we're really we missed that one 532 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: in a big way. We tell you we we speak 533 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,719 Speaker 1: to you on this show in the same way and 534 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: with the same respect that I speak to my closest 535 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: friends and my family members about these issues. Again, that 536 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: is our currency with you, that authenticity, that integrity that 537 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: we bring to the show. I do it and Clay 538 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: does it. And this is why honesce why we get 539 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: along so well on the air and off the air 540 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: because we are completely united in that mission. And yes, 541 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: it's the continuation, it's the the honoring of Russia's legacy 542 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: because Rush did that before. But that's what all this 543 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: is supposed to be about. It's not supposed to be 544 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,479 Speaker 1: people who are just you know, sniping at this person 545 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: or that person with little things on Twitter and getting 546 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: all nasty with each other. And you're you're a fake, 547 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: You're a fed, you're you know, no, guys, the Communists 548 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: want to ruin the country. Do you understand they still 549 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: want to do this? And I know that we've had 550 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: a year where it feels like we're winning, but that 551 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: can change in the blink of an eye. It can 552 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: change in the blink of an eye. And then all 553 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you want to talk about having a 554 00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: rough go of things, A fractured right within, a sendant lunatic, 555 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: AOC mom, Donnie left is a very scary country for us. 556 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: So again, how do we get there? How can people 557 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: believe this? The book Manufacturing delusion? Manufacturing Delusion is the book. 558 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: Please go And I know you say, oh Buck, I'm 559 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: gonna wait, No, just go get it now. And then 560 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: February it'll arrive at your front door on the day 561 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: of I'm also there. You can get the audiobook too. 562 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: By the way, I'm gonna be recording that in a 563 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, but that'll be out on the release 564 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: date of February seventeenth. I really want all of you 565 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: to get the book, and I truly mean that. I 566 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: don't know if I'm ever going to write a book 567 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: beyond this. I don't know. This one took me two 568 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: years and it's not long. You can read the whole thing. 569 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: It is not a long book either. I think it 570 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: matters and I want you to read it and you 571 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: can get There's a link up at clayanbook dot com. 572 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: But please go get the book, because, like I said, 573 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: this is the show. The things that we do are 574 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: supposed to have purpose, and it's beyond ego, and it's 575 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: beyond congratulation and a lot of the stuff that I 576 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: see going on with the right these days. We got 577 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: to fix healthcare, we got to fix costs, we got 578 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: to fix inflation. We have to not just secure the border. 579 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: We got to ramp up these deportations way more than 580 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,479 Speaker 1: what we've already seen. I know they're working on that, 581 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: but we have to stay focused. Now is not the 582 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: time to get into intramural squabbles and lose sight of 583 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: what really matters. And to that end, I will come 584 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: back and discuss the Abrago, Garcia and just the overall 585 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: immigration enforcement picture, because, like I've said, economy, it's going 586 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: to be number one the next twelve months. I'm telling 587 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: you this, economy and how we talk about it and 588 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: what happens is critical. But also, yeah, the border is secure, 589 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: what do we do about all the people who are 590 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: here illegally and what that has done to our system? 591 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,479 Speaker 1: All right, two weeks from today is Christmas Day. That's 592 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: enough time for you to do something really creative for 593 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: your family. Hear me out on this because I know 594 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: Clay and I are saying, oh, gifts, Well yeah, but 595 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: that's that's getting somebody a leather belt for the fourth 596 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: year row. Not that anybody would do that, but maybe 597 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: that's happened to one of us. That's like a gift 598 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: that doesn't have any thought behind it. What about a 599 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: gift that has tremendous thought behind it, that brings you 600 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 1: to a place where you can enjoy cherish memories with 601 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: family members and also you enjoy the whole process because 602 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: it makes you think about it. You sit down with 603 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 1: your family. Oh look at this VHS tape, remember this, 604 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: this school play, remember this family reunion. Legacy Box, My friends, 605 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: if you have not done a Legacy Box before, this 606 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: is the year you gotta do it. Legacy Box has 607 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: earned the trust of over a million families. Clay and 608 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 1: I both have our families in that group. You have 609 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 1: them ship you a special shipping box from Legacy Box 610 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: where you load your videos, film and photos and then 611 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: you get it all back digitized new files. It's great 612 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: entertainment over the Christmas holidays. It's a really fun thing 613 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: to do. And this is a worth This is a 614 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: present that has meaning. So get it for yourself, or 615 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,439 Speaker 1: get a Legacy Box for somebody that you know. Get 616 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: your families videotapes converted for just nine dollars during this 617 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 1: last minute offer from Legacy Box. Got a Legacy Box 618 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: dot com slash buck. That's Legacybox dot Com slash buck. 619 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: Sometimes all you can do is laugh. 620 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,760 Speaker 3: And they do a lot of it with the Sunday 621 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 3: Hang Join Clay and Buck as they laugh it up 622 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 3: in the Clay and Buck podcast feed on the iHeartRadio 623 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,359 Speaker 3: app or wherever you get your podcasts. 624 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: Welcome back in. Let's take some calls. Susanna in West 625 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: Virginia wants to chat with me. Hey Susanna, Hi Buck, 626 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: how are you. I'm very good? Thank you. 627 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 7: Look, I have a bone to pick with you about 628 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 7: Carrie's birthday two for one comment. I understand that it's 629 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 7: on Christmas. Yeah, Ever, however, she deserves to have, you know, 630 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 7: birthday present and Christmas present wrapped separately. 631 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: But how can she know? Okay, it's the rapping. I 632 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: was gonna say, what if I just got her something 633 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: even nicer? But it was one, But she doesn't know 634 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: if it was gonna be two. You know what I'm saying, Like, 635 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if how you can tell the difference. 636 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 7: No, I totally get it. But look, you said your 637 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 7: birthday was after Christmas. My birthday's on the seventh of December, 638 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 7: and so it's you know, it's it's vital that she 639 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 7: gets presents wrapped in birthday paper, Okay, because people in 640 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,800 Speaker 7: June they get birthday paper and they get Christmas paper. 641 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 1: Is there a difference in wrapping paper between Christmas and 642 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: birthday paper? I don't even know. This is a thing. Also, 643 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: I'll let you know, Susannah. My family says that I 644 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 1: have a special wrapping technique, by which they mean that 645 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: I wrap things very poorly, so they always know when 646 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: it's a gift for me. And I like to think 647 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 1: that it's the thought that counts with the wrapping. We'll 648 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 1: be right back