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Speaker 1: The Hunting Collective is presented by Element. I guess I

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Speaker 1: grew up on a Hey, everybody, Welcome to episode one

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Speaker 1: forty one of The Hunting Collective. I'm Ben O'Brien as always,

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Speaker 1: and today I'm in swamp Jacob one what Lake Verrette

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Speaker 1: we said outside of Pure Park, Louisiana with the Swamp

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Speaker 1: People themselves, Jacob Ridge, Moose, Lindsay, Troy Landry, and we're

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Speaker 1: after gators. I don't have much say other than it's exciting.

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Speaker 1: So you're gonna have to stay tuned. But Jacob, here

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Speaker 1: what twelfth season of the History Channels Swamp People twelve.

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Speaker 1: That's gotta be the longest running show on that channel

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Speaker 1: or maybe any cable channel, millions of people watching you

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Speaker 1: guys on gators for over a decade. So we're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about that. We're gonna try to get some gators

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Speaker 1: in the boat everything then something here to buy it.

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Speaker 1: We're not gonna try. We're gonna no trying. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: get a wet at all. Right, Jacob, tell us where

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Speaker 1: we are right now. Right now, we're fishing on Lake

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Speaker 1: Barette's close to our hometown. It's a pretty big lake.

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Speaker 1: A lot of big alligators, and you can't ask for

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Speaker 1: a better scenery than this. It's nothing but big cypress

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Speaker 1: trees full of Spanish moss all along the edges of it,

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Speaker 1: and it's been known to produce some big alligators. But

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Speaker 1: as you can hear, there's a lot of stumps, so

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Speaker 1: you gotta be careful as you're passing on the edge.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we got one here. Now take

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Speaker 1: the next one's up. You remember, do you remember the

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Speaker 1: first time you got your son rich here? He's nine ridge,

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Speaker 1: Say hi, Hi, you remember the first time you went

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Speaker 1: out of your dad's troy. I probably don't remember exactly

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Speaker 1: the first time I would look at that nice swimming

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Speaker 1: I really don't remember, because I was probably too young

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Speaker 1: to remember. My dad used to put me on his

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Speaker 1: in the boat and out a little bitty But uh,

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Speaker 1: I do remember being little and going out there, that's

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Speaker 1: for sure. I had a lot of good times. We

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Speaker 1: used to rabbit hunt a lott. He used to always

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Speaker 1: and sitting on a stunt are coming up on a

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Speaker 1: bait that we hung yesterday. I do not see the line.

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Speaker 1: Why I see lines straight in the water. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: looks like slack. There's plenty of games around, but not

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Speaker 1: on our hooks. Got one, Troy? Oh God, get him?

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Speaker 1: What I'm going to bud? Good night? Good You want

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Speaker 1: right there? Oh? Yeah, I think I think you. Gator

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Speaker 1: number two of the day. Gator number two, the number

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Speaker 1: two we want to We don't ball. We're just sure

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Speaker 1: about an put at the end of the women when

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Speaker 1: we got back down. But now we're on the moose.

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Speaker 1: You got any comments? Do you have any commentary? Now? Okay,

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Speaker 1: we'll come back to you later. What color is an alligator? Wow? Oh,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. There girl, we got there a bank

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Speaker 1: of Mayan. Don't big when he's dropped on the stage

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Speaker 1: yet he's a vegetarian movie salt. Yeah, a little slack,

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Speaker 1: he comes for ye shoot, but come on like this, Troy.

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Speaker 1: It feels like old times. I'm just waiting. I might

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Speaker 1: jump in right. That's the hardest part where Troy makes funny.

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Speaker 1: If you can't get the gator in the boat. It's

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Speaker 1: the big gator boat. We got all the big gators

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Speaker 1: has all the weight. It's gonna fights. Yeah, yeah, why

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Speaker 1: don't you hold this? Lindsey is gonna hold the microphone

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Speaker 1: while I try to kick this. But I got just

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Speaker 1: pointed towards foot right, Conjamin, Hey, are you gonna be

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Speaker 1: all right? Rich from fighting? Reach? You want to go

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Speaker 1: and fight him? Bun come home from Mr Ben up

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Speaker 1: down on that day the whole Rich old him, let him,

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Speaker 1: bro hold him, let him go. You gotta bubb it all.

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Speaker 1: Let me go right at me A good shot. That's

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Speaker 1: a DUDEY got him. I'm all wet. Take that, Buddies

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Speaker 1: on safe five five footer? Oh yeah, what they don't

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Speaker 1: tell you about gator hunting as the gators. I'm in

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Speaker 1: the boat with you when you're done with them, they

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Speaker 1: How big is this one? About? Seven foot? What do

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Speaker 1: He's all wrapped up in a stick. That number that's

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Speaker 1: Not at Mr Bam. Are you going down? He's you

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Speaker 1: just go at amount of me? All right, Red John,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna put another hook in another bait. Reg you

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Speaker 1: don't like the bait. You don't like the rotten chicken.

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Speaker 1: not great. How many gators do you think, like, if

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Speaker 1: don't know what it. The thing is like right now,

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Speaker 1: So now all them little slips that go back into

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Speaker 1: the swamp, the gators go back in there. Now. Right

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Speaker 1: before the hurricane, the water was super low, so every

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Speaker 1: seeing big alligators left and right now. If they're still

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Speaker 1: might be, but a lot of them will go back

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Speaker 1: stick around all right, Jake, If how many gators we

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Speaker 1: got so far, we gotta count them up. It looks

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Speaker 1: looking for that granddaddy. You're gonna make it all worthwhile? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: doing pretty decent. For the few lines we've ran so far.

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Speaker 1: So there's the lines we said yesterday, and all our

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Speaker 1: not too bad. Let's check it out. What happened Jacober

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Speaker 1: but it's not always catching, that's for sure. We're pushing

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Speaker 1: Duffy's gas station here, Pierre part the famous Duffies where

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Speaker 1: each time Troy Landry and Jacob Landry return from gator trip,

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Speaker 1: either way. Well, you you shed lounge for with books,

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00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: with bait, but then you shoot him with a gun,

423
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: you hybrid, you know. Yeah, trying to make sure that

424
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 1: folks understand. You know, somebody that's listening to this. People

425
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: listen to all every country, so they're gonna be hearing

426
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: this and not truly understand. I mean, I've always thought

427
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: Louisiana to me is a place that has this intricate

428
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 1: connection to the land and it's wildlife for the reasons

429
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: that you're saying, Troy, that you come here and there's

430
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: can be whole communities built off this idea that they

431
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 1: are the supplier to the distributor who's getting it. You know,

432
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: you're sitting at some restaurant at bass Pro Shops eating

433
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: gator was you know, some stupid nuclear green sauce that

434
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: somebody fried in the kitchen. That stuff has to come

435
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 1: from somewhere, and so can you. You were just telling

436
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: me this, Troy, But you talked to tell people about

437
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 1: what these gator farms look like. And there's also I'm

438
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: assuming farm crawfish, there's farm shrimp. Just but talk through

439
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: kind of one the farms, the farm armed gator, you know,

440
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 1: and and well, farming gators is another word. They started

441
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: this year ago, and they have been farms for years

442
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: and years. But there were small farms and they really

443
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 1: they didn't really take a toll that much on the market.

444
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: But in the last fifteen years they got bigger and

445
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 1: bigger and bigger, and now they took a toll. They

446
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: don't took the market. And there's really no more room

447
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 1: now for the wild hunters because the farm race gators.

448
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: They can kill him twelve months out of the year

449
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: and harvest them to a restaurant or seafood market such

450
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: as Jacob got Well, he can get a steady supply

451
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: of fresh alligator meat from a farm twelve months out

452
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: of the year, where in the while we can only

453
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: hunt him for one month. Okay, So guess what, Jacob.

454
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: To have a dependable, steady source, he's gonna start buying

455
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: farm red. He might buy some meat from his dada

456
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: for a money or two, but then he's got don't

457
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: have no choice. He's got to depend on the farm. Right. Well,

458
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: like you were saying some of the gators that we

459
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: pulled in today, you got a six ft gator and

460
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: you're telling you're saying it was a that would be

461
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: worth a hundred dollars a couple of years ago, was

462
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: that right? Yeah? And so now that same six ft

463
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: gators worth six dollars six because because of the farm's

464
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: got so big in the last ten or twelve year,

465
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: the meat market is saturated. The uh, the skin market

466
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: is saturated with too many skins. My bia, my bia.

467
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: We just started our season and my buyer is not

468
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: buying this year because he's gone. And I don't blame him.

469
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: He's sitting on nine of his skins he bought from

470
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: last year and probably fought the fifty percent his skins

471
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: from two years ago. So you know, he's got so

472
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: much money tied up in skins from the last two

473
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: years that he opted out. This year, he's not buying

474
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: a skin. What's this make you think of? Mean? You know,

475
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: Troy was telling us he thinks it's like a way

476
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: of life is coming to an end. Do you feel

477
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: like that, Oh, absolutely to you know, they say it

478
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: goes and comes in cycles, and they think that, you know,

479
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: possibly in a few years it would come back. But

480
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: just as bad as it is and the size of

481
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: the farms and everything, I really just don't see where

482
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: it can actually come back and be beneficial to us.

483
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: Um if you're not doing guided hunts or picking eggs,

484
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: or you know, doing something else besides just going catch

485
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: the alligators. There's there's no market for it. There's nothing,

486
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: no reason for you to stay in it, you know.

487
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: And steadily every year people more and more getting out

488
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: of it. And you can't buy him because there's no

489
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: money to be made doing it. You can't pay your

490
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: bills doing it. Why do It's hard? Hard work? Why

491
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: do it if you're not gonna make a profit doing

492
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: it's hard work. I did most of the work today,

493
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: and I thought Lynda, I thought his wife, it looked

494
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: like to me, was doing most of the work in

495
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: the boat. He was doing most of the looks. But

496
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: you know, people like you got a big company like Gucci.

497
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: Gucci is a big buyer of alligator skins, and they

498
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: used to come down every alligator season and and they

499
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: have bid. They would they would be buyers that buy

500
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: all alligators. Would would would bid for their market. Okay,

501
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: now what Gucci did tend two years ago They came

502
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: down and bought their own alligator farms in Louisiana. So

503
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: now nobody can sell skins to Gucci. They got their own.

504
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: There is their own alligators over here. And they're not

505
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: the only ones doing that. That's the problem. They couldn't do.

506
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: The wild hunters are completely out. Now we are the

507
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: picture completely because that is that what's that done to

508
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: the economy here? I mean, I know that you're making

509
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: it work. Jacob was here with your story. It hurts

510
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: it heard. It cripples d economy cripples and and you know,

511
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: alligators there's just one small part of the puzzle. But

512
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: if if you take three quarters of the pieces of

513
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: the puzzle out and throw them in the garbage, well

514
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: guess what, you ain't got a puddle the moore. It

515
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: don't work. You don't have nothing. You just got little

516
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: engine pieces and that's what's left. You can't make a

517
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: solid living no more. You might scrap up a little

518
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: money here and there, make a little change here and

519
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: there for a week or two, but to say you're

520
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: gonna make a living living off the land these day,

521
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: it's done. It's finished. You should tell people the story

522
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: about you know, we already touched on that you had

523
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: turtles growing up. I mean that was the thing that

524
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: your family did, sold turtles, But that you were telling

525
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: me about how there was a boom during teenage mutant

526
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: ninja turtles were where when I was When I was little,

527
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: my dad would go out at night and uh, he

528
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: had a vessel like a hunting vest, and he'd go

529
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: with four or five old pairs of socks and he'd

530
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: come back and the next morning he'd have them up

531
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: socks full of little baby turtles. Okay, that fifteen or

532
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: twenty per sock, and he'd find eighty two hundred a night,

533
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: and he'd showed that he made money with that. And

534
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: I remember that like it was yesterday, and they had

535
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: people that was at the same time. Bill in Turtle

536
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: Palm punch turtle farms and and my mama's family. The

537
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: blankets were very big in the turtle business. Uh. And

538
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: we've probably had seven or eight of them that had

539
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: turtle farms, and they did real good. They were selling

540
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: turtles for thirty five forty central piece years ago. Well,

541
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: China was one of the biggest buyers that that turtles.

542
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: They tell them all over the world, but China bought

543
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: a bunch. And when the Ninja Turtles came out, well,

544
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: turtles got real popular. So them a little couple of

545
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: hundred thousand turtles they were hatching a year. Uh you

546
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: know them seven eight uncles of mine. Well some of

547
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: them would hatch half a million, some of them over that. Well,

548
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: they're little turtles that were worth turty five or forty

549
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: cents a piece, all of sudden was worth a dollar

550
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: thurty and a dollar for the because of a Ninja turtle,

551
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: cartoons and all that, every little kid out there wanted

552
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: a pet turtle. Were you a big fan of Ninja turtles?

553
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: I was a big nins turtle. Yeah, I was real

554
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: young for but yes, and what happened after Ninja Turtles

555
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: the turtles went to a dollar turty dollar Ford. I

556
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: think for a year or two they even got up

557
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: to a dollar fifty piece. Uh well, in the Chinese

558
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: that was important all them, not all, but actually seven

559
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 1: percent of the turtles from Louisiana was going to China.

560
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 1: They started making their own turtle ponds. Okay, now they're

561
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,280
Speaker 1: selling them to China and all the rest of the world.

562
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: Show them seem little turtles that got the one time

563
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: was worth a dollar turte and a dollar for and

564
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: now they're worth twenty cents twenty in and on a

565
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: good year they might get twenty five cents now. So

566
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: and it costs them to hatch the picti megs in

567
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: the in the forms, to incubate them and ship them

568
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: and clean them and sterilize them and everything. It costs

569
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: them about twenty five cents to turtle now. Okay, back

570
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 1: when they were getting turty and forty cents years ago,

571
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: before the Ninjura turtle, it cost him about ten cents

572
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: to radium fifteenth. But now that probably didn't wind up

573
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: to as much as they're getting for crazy. Yeah, I mean,

574
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: Jacob's wife Lindsay was showing me the instagram of the

575
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 1: buyer you guys had. That's not buying this year. What's

576
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: the name of its, uh American Americans American leathern tannery

577
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: and it's it's the whole instagram of all these tan

578
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: gator hides, all these things. And and I know people

579
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 1: kind of want to know what the processes. You guys

580
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 1: go out, You get how many five s tags a year?

581
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: This year? So you said it just over five hundred tags.

582
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: You get those tags, you fill those tags. Like we

583
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 1: were just recording today, you each gator gets a tag

584
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: on its tail, you could have notched its tail, and

585
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: you come back here and you're reading off the number

586
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: and the length. You know, you don't weigh him, do

587
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: you have the blame note? And then what happens after that?

588
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: What they get taken to the processing plants. They get

589
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: skin out, The meat gets processed and cleaned and vacuum

590
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: sealed and chipped off to be sold to restaurants and

591
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: what not. And then the skins get pressure washed and

592
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: cleaned real good. Then they get salted and they put

593
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 1: into freezing too till the tanneries can take them and actually,

594
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: you know, go through the process of tanning them. But

595
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: that's like he was saying, there's so many polaces right now,

596
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: they're just sitting back and still has skins from two

597
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: or three years ago that they don't want them. If

598
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: you know, in the last couple of years, we had

599
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: a market for the meat where that was the whole

600
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: reason why they were buying them. They take them with

601
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 1: the skins, but they wasn't wanting them for the skins.

602
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: They were wanted for the meat only. And and now

603
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: the markets really really saturated with skins. The you know,

604
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: with the week the economy is, with the virus and everything,

605
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: restaurants aren't open. Everybody's just sitting on a lot, a

606
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: lot of meat. So that's not even a demand right

607
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 1: now either. So there's a lot a lot of people

608
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 1: that's not fishing just because that. Yeah, and so now

609
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: you have what's, what's the most tags you've ever had

610
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: in a year, and so you guys, basically the way

611
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: you get tags, you explain that too, is through you know,

612
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 1: a relationship with private landowners. Right we fish for I

613
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: think thirty or five or thirty six private landowners. And

614
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: and the where you get permission to fish somebody's land

615
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: for alligated the same way you get permission to hunt

616
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: somebody's land for deer or turkeys or anything else. You

617
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: go knock on the door and b a relationship with

618
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: the land owner. And the only thing you instead of

619
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 1: paying them a leash. You know, if you want a

620
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: deer hunt on somebody's area, you're telling, look, I'm gonna

621
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: give you ten dollars and the ach or five dollars,

622
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 1: and they could a deer hunt your property, alligator hunt.

623
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: You tell them I'm gonna give you twenty five percent

624
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: or thirty percent of whatever they work. What I catch

625
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: on your property, if your property, if I get one

626
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: tag for your property or a hundred tag forward or whatever,

627
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: I'll give you average of about uh for And then

628
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: I got about a dozen out of thirty something, I

629
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: got about a dozen of landowners that don't charge me nothing.

630
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: They just want them off of that property. Their kids

631
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: and their grandkids go Doug hunting and t You hunting,

632
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: and the gators eat their retrievers and all that. So

633
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: they just want them off of the property. And uh,

634
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: they don't want no money. They said, you know, keep

635
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: whatever you catch, keep it. We just want them gone.

636
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: But the majority charges about thirty percent of whatever the

637
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 1: gator the work. And until three or four years ago,

638
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: thirty percent of an alligator would most probably bring the

639
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 1: landowner seventy five dollars, maybe a hundred dollars on a

640
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 1: big one. But you know it was it was worth

641
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: it because most of my landowners, I'll get fifteen twenty

642
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 1: tags at least for and now the landowners shaff for

643
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 1: an alligator might be a dollar Domond Barrus, really and true,

644
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: I feel bad because some of them, I know, they

645
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: used to depend on that money. They use that to

646
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: pay the insurance for that prop on their property and

647
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: their property taxes and all that. And now I feel

648
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: bad because after I mean, if I send him a

649
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: hundred percent of what I get, it's not gonna be

650
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 1: nothing compared to what it was before, much less thirty percent.

651
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: I mean, there's nothing. Do you how do you get

652
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: the tags from fishing wildlife? If I apply let's see

653
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: Jacobon's a hundred or let's see Jacobon's a thousand acres,

654
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: and I'll go to wild off and fishers. I say,

655
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: I want to hunt Jacob stylesand acres. I want to

656
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: catch alligator on his thousand acres. They're gonna look at

657
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: the map, They're gonna study his lane, they're gonna might

658
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 1: even go out and look at it in person. And

659
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: if it's real wet, if it stays wet most of

660
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: the year, they'll give me one tag per hundred acres. Okay.

661
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: That tolder acres are get me tin tags. If it's

662
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: wet about half a year, it will be one tag

663
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: per maybe two or three hundred acres, okay. And if

664
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: it's if it's real dry, I might only get one

665
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: tag for that towldon acres. The prime the prime area

666
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 1: over here that we love the fishes in the middle

667
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: of the Chaffel Liabation. It's a deep swamp that never

668
00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: drives up. Okay, the biggest alligators we catches on the

669
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: track of lane. But we only get one tag for

670
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 1: eight hundred acres and it never drives up. It should

671
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 1: be one tag per hundred. But the reason they give

672
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: us one tag per eight hundred is because in the spring,

673
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: when the mamas are making their nests to hash the

674
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: little ones, it's floods a lot. The Chaffel Liabation floods

675
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 1: almost every spring. Two thirds of the United States drains

676
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: through the Mississippi River in the Chafe Road. Two thirds

677
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: of the country from Idaho all the way the Pennsylvania

678
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: drains right here. Just remember, if you're dumping crap in

679
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: the river in Pennsylvania, it's coming through, it's coming to

680
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:42,479
Speaker 1: South Louisiana. That's from Idaho the Pennsylvania. And usually every

681
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: spring they get big rains, either in the western part

682
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 1: of the country or the eastern part of the central part.

683
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: Somewhere they'll get rain and we'll flood, and the nest

684
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 1: going the water and they'll drown. The eggs are going

685
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,439
Speaker 1: and they're not good. They won't hat. So that's why

686
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 1: the Ryan area there should be one tag per hundred.

687
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: Over here, we only get one tag per eight hundred.

688
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: But it's our favorite places to fish. That's where Junior

689
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: and I compete all the time for the tag. That's

690
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,280
Speaker 1: public land, and we got a bid on those tags

691
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: and it's not private land. On see, A lot of

692
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 1: people don't realize this area is so prone to flooding.

693
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: They only built some levees around us right here in

694
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: nineteen forties. Before that, like my grandpa and all them,

695
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: they all used to live on houseboards because they flooded

696
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: all the time. And the government still owned almost all

697
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 1: the land down here. You couldn't homestead it. You couldn't

698
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: grow a crop and pay taxes because it was always flooded.

699
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 1: It was all trappers and fishermen. So the federal government

700
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: still owned all the land around here. And there's still

701
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: big tracks of public land that the government still owns,

702
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: you know, down here. How did they come to own that?

703
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: Was that all through? Well what happened was the federal

704
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: government owned all the land, and and uh nobody was

705
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: homestead and you know, when all the rest of the

706
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: country was being formed, then homestead everybody down here was

707
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 1: living on house boats and trapping and fishing. Well, the

708
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: big logging companies when they ran out of virgin timber

709
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 1: up north, Okay, all the big forests up north, when

710
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 1: they finished cutting all the old and they ran out

711
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: of virgin timber, all these swamps around here was loaded

712
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 1: with virgin shipish giant hypest trees. So all them big

713
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 1: companies from up north came down here and they could buy, uh,

714
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: they could buy the cypress rights to the land, just

715
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: the timber rights for fifteen centi an acre, or the

716
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: land was really worthless. They could buy it from the

717
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 1: federal government for cent an acre. And on the land

718
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 1: in the timber. So most of them big companies from

719
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: up north was already well to do because they made

720
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: fortunes cutting the big virgin timber up they all over

721
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: the country. When they came down here, they bought it.

722
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: And about the time they finished cutting all the big

723
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: virgin hypest tree around here, in the late nineteen twenties

724
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: and third ish, uh, they figured the land was gonna

725
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 1: be useless. They started finding oil and and gash underneath it,

726
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: natural gadget ail. Sure, they made a fortune cutting the

727
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: shape street on all the swamp. They bought it like

728
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: for like I said, for nothing five cents are And

729
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: then they got rich with the oil. They has some

730
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: all fewers right around here, some all whales that's been

731
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: pumping the nineteen forties and they're still pumping. Yeah, they're

732
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: still pumping. Go figure that. The tail of this place, man,

733
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 1: this part of the country just has this twisting and turning,

734
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: just a lot more to it than just the most

735
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: thinking mood or even when you can tell I don't know,

736
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,720
Speaker 1: it's something about a place. Some places have a soul.

737
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: This is like the place I tell people all the time.

738
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: It's exchanging now because so many people are here. But

739
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: when I was young, you could shot down in the

740
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 1: in uh on the car portrait at home and count

741
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: the card that with passion afternoon. Now they might have

742
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: five thousand cards that passion a day. When I was young,

743
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,240
Speaker 1: they might have had five cards that passed a d okay.

744
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: And I always said the issue was like the place

745
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: that time forgot, you know, the swamps and all around

746
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: here used to be. Until the last twenty years, it

747
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: was almost some time. You could stay out death for

748
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: a week. We'd go camping and all and hunting for

749
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: a week at a time. You won't shoot another pushing. Yeah. Well,

750
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: when I come down here, I'm struck by almost everything.

751
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: But I'm struck by the way that you guys live

752
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 1: all together like generations, because that's I mean, even in

753
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: my family, we don't all live in the same town,

754
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: even let alone in the same street or you know,

755
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,240
Speaker 1: within driving distance. And then it's it's the way everybody

756
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 1: gathers around each other. It's that there is a way

757
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: of life here. There's a way of life that that

758
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: remains no matter how much all the other stuff is changing.

759
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: That way of life is well, yeah, but we're slowly

760
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: losing all our old people. And you know all the

761
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: old French talking people when we used to get together,

762
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: my mom and dad and my grandma and nobody talking English.

763
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: Nobody Now it's almost all the old people that talk French.

764
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: Is going Jacob. And know they talk English, you know,

765
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: they don't talk French. My Grandmo could write, never went

766
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: to school that day in her love, but you could

767
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 1: write French and read Frank. You just learn knowing from

768
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: her mom and dad. Mom. Yeah, yeah, when they were settled.

769
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 1: What do you think, I mean, we had your boys

770
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 1: out on the on the boat today. I mean, I

771
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: feel like they're getting it, Jacob. But they're also just

772
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: like you were saying earlier Shore, they're just different. They're

773
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: in a different environment. Oh absolutely. And they don't know

774
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: the you know, the the traditions that we're trying to

775
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: pass on to them. They don't realize how close they

776
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: are to just being extinct, you know, because not many

777
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: people are doing it anymore, and they grew up in it,

778
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: so they feel like it's just second nature to them.

779
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,760
Speaker 1: So you know, they don't realize exactly just how fortunate

780
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: they are to get to do the things they do

781
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of people that can't do it anymore,

782
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: and are you know, their families don't do it, so

783
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: a lot of his friends are missing out on it.

784
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: That something that might have been done in their family

785
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: years ago and it just won't happen ever again. Yeah,

786
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 1: I mean you could see. It's almost like it's there too,

787
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: because we're out there running around in you know, looking

788
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: hanging baits and then pulling gators up, and there's people

789
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: out there tube and there's big expensive bass boats so

790
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 1: guys are fishing that. In the fish camps we were at,

791
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: people are partying, so you can kind of see like

792
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: here's the old way, here's the old way to use this,

793
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: like in the new way to use this like jet

794
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: skis and stuff like that. It's see you can see

795
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,479
Speaker 1: you don't see. I mean we went on the water

796
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 1: the last two days and we've seen one other boat

797
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: having something to do with alligator lines and and he

798
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 1: was just in and out of there in twenty seconds,

799
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, nobody was out there. Well, I mean

800
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: that's it's it's a good way to start talking about

801
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 1: this damn swamp people show you guys had going for

802
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 1: twelve years, Troy. Yeah, you believe twelve years. I don't

803
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 1: think anybody camp and you believed. I don't. I don't

804
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: have to look this up and figure it out. But

805
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 1: I can't remember a show being I mean I remember

806
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: duck Tynessy was really popular for it was like meteoric

807
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: rise to the most popular show on TV. But it

808
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 1: was only around for five years ago. I don't know

809
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: the number. After this year, we're gonna have a film

810
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:25,439
Speaker 1: over two hundred episodes. That's that's over two episodes. Would

811
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 1: you ever thought that there's no way? I guess not, no, man.

812
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,760
Speaker 1: And then we're over, you know. We come into Duffies,

813
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: which one was one was Duffy's founded. When was it

814
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 1: the first open bait shop? Was there was a little kid,

815
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: It was small, it was a little bit of cooler,

816
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: but that'd been there in the sixth dish. Yeah, and

817
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: here it is now. There's people gathered. I met a

818
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: couple of people there today that had come every year

819
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,240
Speaker 1: since two thousand twelve. Yeah, and they get their picture

820
00:47:58,280 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 1: every year. And there's a couple of people who did that.

821
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 1: And one young lady came every year and she had

822
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 1: a kid last year, so this year she brought her

823
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: child for her twelve week old baby crazy. They had

824
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: a lady, a couple of a few years back, I

825
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 1: guess about maybe four years ago, five years ago. Uh,

826
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: for her ninety second birthday. She was from Illinois. For

827
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 1: her ninety second birthday, she wanted her kids. I think

828
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,919
Speaker 1: she had three daughters. She wanted her kids to bring

829
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: her to duff It and pare Port Farnus. So for

830
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 1: her ninety second birthday, they brought her. They found us

831
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: and we took a picture shipping on a big alligator

832
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: with her, and they came back. I think almost every

833
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 1: year change. I don't know if they're coming this year

834
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: or not. My mama keeps in touch with him. I

835
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 1: heard that from two people today there was probably people.

836
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: He said it's less people just because this year. And

837
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: two people said that that they came down here to

838
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,720
Speaker 1: find you guys the first time, which is a crazy

839
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: pilgrimage and of itself, no matter where you're going, m

840
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: came down here to find you, and then they found

841
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 1: you and then made friends in town and come and

842
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,919
Speaker 1: stay with those friends every year. Absolutely, multiple people told

843
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 1: me that had a lot of people that move here.

844
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: After swamp people started twelve years ago, we've had a

845
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: lot of people that moved here for the last few

846
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 1: years of that life. Someone bashed away right here and

847
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: never went back home. That's yeah, that's a story. The

848
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: first time I came here, I don't remember the details,

849
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: but there was a gentleman here in a wheelchair that

850
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: had I believe he had cancer. You guys have probably

851
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 1: done this multiple times. I don't wish to so many people.

852
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 1: People come here from the Canada, people come here from

853
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: all over the world. At a History Channel, I don't

854
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,280
Speaker 1: remember what year guy hunted with me. It's been about

855
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: four or five years, three or four years ago at least.

856
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: The History Channel is big on doing uh like make

857
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: a wish things and all that make a dream. They

858
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 1: do a lot of that kind of charity stuff. And

859
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 1: that was elated from Meridian, Mississippi about four or five

860
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: years ago. The History Channel callman. They said, look, we're

861
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: doing to make her dream or something, and uh, this

862
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 1: latest dream she wants to go. She's terminal here, but

863
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: she wants to go alligator hunting with you. So I

864
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 1: told him, I said, well, I said, uh, we got

865
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: a contract with you, so if you want me to

866
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: bring the latter, I mean, you know, it's up to

867
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: you all. We are the boss. Oh, we would love

868
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 1: for you. She wants to go with you. So we

869
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: took her that day. Jacob and always out there. The

870
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: family came down and uh we met him one afternoon.

871
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,879
Speaker 1: They was watching her unload all alligators, and we took

872
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: them the next day to Friday. We took the woman

873
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 1: and I was terminally here and she was a young

874
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 1: lead in her fifties. And I asked some of the family.

875
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: That was about five or six family members that came

876
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: with her, and I said, how she's doing. And they

877
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: told me, they said, man, she's weak. Weak. We think

878
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: you've been holding on for the last couple of months

879
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 1: just to come on this strip. So we took him

880
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: outigator hunting the next morning and we caught good We

881
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 1: must have caught about twenty gators alligators, and at the

882
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 1: end of the day we were just about finished running Allline,

883
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: or we might have been finished. We saw a big

884
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: one takeoff and guy, my little brother Trebor hooked him.

885
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 1: And boy, we said, he said the hook and that

886
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 1: big alligator was pulling the boat all over like a

887
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: little toy. You know, they could have been a little toy.

888
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 1: And about the he pulled the board for about ten

889
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes. Finally he came up and that lady shot

890
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 1: him and she killed him. We pulled it alligator in

891
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 1: the boat and we come home. We unloaded them all,

892
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: took pictures, and then they left him by. They left

893
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 1: about six seven o'clock that evening to go back to

894
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: me Ridian, Mississippi. The next morning, we was going to

895
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: the boat ramp at five o'clock and my phone rang

896
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: and I almost didn't answer it because I didn't recognize

897
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: the number at five o'clock in the morning, and I

898
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 1: didn't know if it was one of them stupid tell

899
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: the market or whatever trying to call man George let

900
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 1: me answered, she what the hell? So I answered the

901
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: phone and it was her family. They had got my

902
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: number some kind of we and uh, she passed away.

903
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: They got home at midnight that night. He's serious. And

904
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:19,879
Speaker 1: at one o'clock that morning at ye, about an hour

905
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: or two after she got home. Oh yeah, that's that's

906
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 1: I tell you. That's like I said, that's not the

907
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 1: only time that you guys have had someone down here.

908
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: People have coming states, people came and stay at your

909
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: house before, hadn't they? They were coming and then they

910
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 1: don't leave this say they don't go back home. They'd

911
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: find him a place. A matter of fact, the last

912
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: time you came, because I remember watching the show on

913
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: Outdoor Channel Montana that was out here with us. He

914
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 1: was one of those that came down here and his

915
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: wife remember him. They stayed here for two or three years,

916
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: and then they both went up Passion away and they

917
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 1: stay here. They where they live from Montana. I think

918
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: you don't worry. I don't know. They came out here

919
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 1: to see you guys. Yeah, and then they just say

920
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: they're just moving. They were living in a campo. Yeah,

921
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: just unradial and that's I mean, that's every year. They

922
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 1: got people living here right now. That game looking for

923
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,399
Speaker 1: us three or four years ago and they never went.

924
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 1: They come down to people so friendly, and it's true

925
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 1: compared to where they lived that before they figured, you

926
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: know what, why not live here and Chihuahua. We used

927
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: to call it Chihuahua. Yeah, that was where she went from.

928
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: Jacob had a old lady, her and her husband Mr Larry. Yeah,

929
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 1: exactly where you have your fuss out us all the time. Yeah. Yeah,

930
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: we called it Johuahua I remember, I remember the first

931
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 1: time I came down here and met you guys. I

932
00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: think I met you a little bit before over there

933
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: at the bus company, I met Jacob Crawfish for us

934
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 1: when you're working at my Long History and we'll tell

935
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: the story. We'll tell that story too, where I'm I

936
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 1: just you just shell shot and this guy, this Cajun

937
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 1: guys yelling at me about iglu Coola's what anyway I

938
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: came here and no, you wasn't working for you. I

939
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 1: was working for ye. That's company in the world that

940
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 1: they are, that all American made, and we are built

941
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 1: right here in the USA. You guys have boats full

942
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: of them too. Like everything you used to be built

943
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 1: in America built the last, not a very few things

944
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: that are built to last. Most things now they built

945
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,399
Speaker 1: even though they built him in this corner, they built

946
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,919
Speaker 1: it throw away. Yeah, well that's what that's that's that's

947
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: the connection to and like that. When I go in

948
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 1: your guys boats, I'm like, well, this is what this

949
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 1: was made for. They didn't know when they were making

950
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 1: it the first time, but it was made for this

951
00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: because it takes a beating. Those boats look like they've

952
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 1: been through something when they come back, got shot at you.

953
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:07,879
Speaker 1: I told you that dude missed the mahonna shot alligata

954
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: and I don't know what you were he was shooting,

955
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: but he hit the shot at the boat and my

956
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 1: foot was on the side of the board. It was

957
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: kind of late. We had a stack of allegate and

958
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 1: I was standing on the allegate and I had won.

959
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:19,760
Speaker 1: My left foot was on the side of the boat,

960
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 1: and he shot a hole in the side of my

961
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 1: boat about three inches from my foot. Lord of we

962
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 1: pulled up on one or two, and that gun was

963
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: flying around like that work. You had to say about

964
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: three up? Whoa was he? Lord of merch? Then you

965
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 1: shot the boat. That's okay, longer you don't shoot my foot,

966
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: because boy looked, my foot was about three inches away.

967
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 1: I don't have you. I could get another boat like

968
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,720
Speaker 1: it's kind of hole board been shot about twenty times before,

969
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 1: so there's nothing seen everything. They had every cypress fruit

970
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: in a freaking swamp. Yeah. I mean the first time

971
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: I came here. I came here, and when you were

972
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: I would think, you guys are out by the pool

973
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: out here at your house, Jacob, And there was of

974
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: course the whole family everybody's running around, and that in

975
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 1: itself is a little while. There's you know, there's boil

976
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 1: crawfish boil going on, there's there's food being slung around.

977
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 1: And then there was this guy in a wheelchair in

978
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 1: the corner and I talked to everybody, met everybody. Everybody

979
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 1: was super friendly, more friendly than I could ever imagine

980
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 1: as a guy didn't know anybody. And eventually got to

981
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: talk to this guy and he's like, yeah, um, I

982
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: just came down here to meet Troy and Jacob and

983
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: I've been down here ever since. And I can't remember

984
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 1: the guy's name, but I feel like that's that's what

985
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 1: that's what I remember that I remember he was and

986
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 1: he said he had been here, he's for some time.

987
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 1: His wife was a little late, a little lady. She

988
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: was like, real, but this has been like six seven years.

989
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 1: But there's just so it just goes to show there's

990
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 1: so many people that come down and they just get

991
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 1: attracted to this place. Yeah, because it is even though

992
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 1: it once was a place that that time forgot. I mean,

993
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: it's still lagging behind, you know, the rest of the country,

994
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 1: even though it's catching up a little bit. You know,

995
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: it's there's still something about this place to me, not

996
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: only the swamp, but the people and everything. It's wild

997
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 1: and that goes to show, you know, Duffies is now

998
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 1: if you google, like Pierre part Louisiana, the first thing

999
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: comes up Duffies. Oh yeah, because that's what Pete, that's

1000
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what people come here, you know, they

1001
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: come here for that. So we gotta start. We gotta

1002
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 1: go back to the beginning of how the hell you

1003
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: guys got on the History Channel in the first place,

1004
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: if you can even remember twelve years ago, like of

1005
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: all the things that happened between now and then, because

1006
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 1: at the time, how old were you at the time

1007
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: Jacob shooting now to put me, uh, twenty four and

1008
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: you didn't know much about what are you doing at

1009
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: at this time? Chase would have been and what a

1010
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: nineteen chasing five years younger than me. It's hard to think.

1011
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 1: And you know, whenever they first approached us, I mean

1012
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 1: we all looked at it, as you know, we just

1013
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: assumed do it. We're doing the Gators anyway, so why not,

1014
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 1: you know, go along with this and it'll be something

1015
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: neat to maybe have on video, you know, VCR, DVD,

1016
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: or whatever and show the kids laid on down the road.

1017
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: We never thinking twelve years later we'll still be here

1018
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 1: sitting sitting down in the middle of gazing well, because

1019
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: at that time, you guys are making some money doing

1020
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: it right. I mean crawfish, put crawfish on top of gators,

1021
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: and you're making a living at that point of money. Yeah,

1022
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: we had been getting fought and fifted out of the

1023
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 1: foot for the big ones in the foot for the

1024
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 1: small one, and we were making good money. And the

1025
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 1: year we shot the first show was in two thousand

1026
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: and eight and the stock market everything had crashed that

1027
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: year and it was a disaster. Some of my buyers

1028
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: were talking about not buying and they were talking about

1029
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 1: the slashing the price maybe in half. I told my wife, Uh,

1030
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 1: I said, maybe we are to, let you know, bring

1031
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: them camera guys with us. And she you know, what

1032
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 1: they offered to Paish might be on the way. We're

1033
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: gonna make a little money this year. So we decided

1034
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 1: to bring them and then oh, it was supposed to

1035
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 1: be a three hour documentary that was filming four and uh.

1036
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 1: The when they went back to New York to make

1037
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: their documentary, they liked the footage so much they made

1038
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: what ten episode the first year? I think eight or

1039
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: ten episodes I think the first year, and it broke

1040
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: every record at the History Channel for the most viewers

1041
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 1: until the did hold the record, and the production team

1042
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 1: was like, weren't they a bunch of British guys or something?

1043
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 1: Where they come from is a production thing that came

1044
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: in when us food nothing like you guys first from Colombia. Yeah,

1045
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 1: my god was from Colombia, Andreas. But you know, it

1046
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 1: has been a blessing for us. She'd helped my whole

1047
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 1: family and I just meet, helped the shoal, Yeah, helped

1048
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 1: of beard made a lot of easier to pit of bells. Well,

1049
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 1: and you guys all have you know if if folks

1050
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 1: don't know like that, you know you have duffies and

1051
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 1: then behind Duffy you kind of all have. You'll have

1052
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 1: your houses back here because your brother lives. Yeah, but

1053
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 1: my mom and dad, my brothers, then some of my kids,

1054
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:38,439
Speaker 1: we all need. But yeah, I think most people would

1055
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 1: would like it that way if they could have it

1056
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 1: that way. Were very fortunate. Yeah, and so it wasn't

1057
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: weird when you first had Columbian camera guys, hanging out.

1058
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 1: We had to get a translator for Andrea to fresh

1059
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 1: yet went for him and went for you. The first

1060
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 1: few days he came with it. He was eating green

1061
01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 1: Nority bars and you know that you gotta little life

1062
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 1: stretch full of healthy stuff for the first few days.

1063
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 1: And then after that we had him eating Hershey bars

1064
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 1: and forget that. We launched in the lake and that

1065
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 1: told me said standing at bait pan right there, and

1066
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 1: don't move. Don't get out of that bait pan the

1067
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:18,959
Speaker 1: rest of the day. He said, that's the only spot

1068
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 1: you can stand in the boat. He was He didn't

1069
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 1: know whether to believe him or not. It's like I said,

1070
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 1: it's a harsh environment. Here here a part if you

1071
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 1: don't know what you're getting. And every day I would

1072
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:33,919
Speaker 1: drive my boat, he would stand up right in front

1073
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 1: of him and put the camera in my face and

1074
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 1: I tell him, Andred, I can't see you blocking my view.

1075
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 1: I can't see where I'm gone. One day, I'm gonna

1076
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:45,439
Speaker 1: hit a stump or log or something and you're gonna

1077
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 1: fly out the boat and I'm gonna run over you.

1078
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 1: Oh I'm gonna be okay. I'm so After about the

1079
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 1: second year, I think I hear the damn stump under

1080
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 1: the water or something, and he flew out the camera

1081
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 1: at the boat one way, and it's camera camera flew

1082
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 1: out the boat the other way, and he wind up

1083
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 1: finding his camera. But I think it was ruined after that.

1084
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 1: He used to shit down when I told him when

1085
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 1: I would drive, you know, get on trap himself in

1086
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 1: after that, because sometimes we run a few lines and

1087
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 1: I aread then we might have to travel two or

1088
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:20,959
Speaker 1: three miles to get to another area. And he would

1089
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 1: stand up right in my face with his cameras and

1090
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: I couldn't see have And you already can't see a

1091
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 1: stump if it's under the water when you're traveling, and

1092
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 1: it's dangerous, I promise you. After that, I used to

1093
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 1: shit down. But what I was even doing that today

1094
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 1: kind of stand up. He was under the water lake

1095
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 1: and when they cut when they cut them big giant

1096
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:47,479
Speaker 1: Choper Street all around that lake a hundred years ago,

1097
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 1: a hundred fifty years ago, the water level with about

1098
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 1: two foot loaders and is now maybe three foot loor. Okay, now,

1099
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 1: them big giant stumps is all six inches eight inches

1100
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 1: under the water. And when you see him or you

1101
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 1: feel them. It's too late, especially if you're doing to

1102
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 1: them out and I will for them out. And I

1103
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 1: imagine that when you're standing up in front like petrified.

1104
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 1: It's like hitting a concreek wall. Yeah, magic get thrown

1105
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 1: out of the boat and then hitting one under the

1106
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 1: water when you land. It's not good. So if you

1107
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 1: ever down you're just remember, just remember, don't do that.

1108
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 1: But what was the first time you guys knew that

1109
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 1: you were famous? I mean what, because I've traveled with

1110
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 1: you where you had to sign autographs and shake hands

1111
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 1: all these people and they all know you. They traveled

1112
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 1: here from everywhere. Figured well, I'm here to say this famous.

1113
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 1: It's funny because whenever the first producer came down, she

1114
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 1: had said that. She said, you don't realize what's coming about.

1115
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 1: You know, when you're gonna be an airport, people are

1116
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 1: going to recognize you, and it's another and we just

1117
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 1: kind of rolled our eyes and said, whatever, the airport,

1118
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 1: we gotta go to the airport first started recognizing. Yeah,

1119
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 1: it's crazy. The one was the first time, you remember, Jacob,

1120
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 1: was there a moment where somebody recognized you? Thought, Holy crap,

1121
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 1: I don't remember. It started right quick yeah, it was

1122
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 1: because the show was such a hit right away. How

1123
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 1: many lines of people were watching it in the beginning.

1124
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 1: I think the premiere was four point two million. I

1125
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 1: want to say, I remember Shirt a shirt and age

1126
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 1: group that was a demographic. Yea, that wasn't overall view

1127
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 1: of demographic. Their young demographic that deal was targeting was

1128
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 1: like over four million views. It was like seven or

1129
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 1: eight total. But like the young ones don't count into

1130
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 1: who people don't call this one group right in the

1131
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,959
Speaker 1: middle that did come in that group people spend the money.

1132
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 1: You're not count for another year for the commercials. You

1133
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 1: know what a shortain age group that did target that

1134
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 1: spend the money. Don't let people behind the curtain. They're

1135
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 1: gonna start knowing that they're targeted. Yeah, So then that

1136
01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 1: that happens, and then all of a sudden, Hey buddy,

1137
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 1: he's just out there swimming. Now he's gone, he's gone. Um.

1138
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 1: But there's you know, you go through this thing, you've

1139
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 1: been doing it a couple of years. I can't imagine

1140
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 1: you thought it was gonna go I mean, how could

1141
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 1: you thought it was gonna go more than two, three

1142
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 1: or four years? And then at some point, you know,

1143
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 1: this like, this is what you do every year. This

1144
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 1: is when when? Uh when the sign wont aired? When

1145
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 1: when the premier air? Were started fishing Alligator the following year,

1146
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 1: and the History Channel kind of like the footage, but

1147
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 1: they were running way behind because they had shot it

1148
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 1: for a documentary and then they were making a shot

1149
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 1: out of it show. They were kind of running late.

1150
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 1: And we started hunting Alligated the following cheese and and

1151
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 1: they wanted us to lockers down. They wanted to lock

1152
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 1: us down just in case it was a good shot,

1153
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 1: like it was gonna be a hit. So we had

1154
01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:00,040
Speaker 1: a two week ten deal or two week country I

1155
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 1: get foosh, two weeks. You made a shot at two

1156
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 1: week contract like a week before the premier came out.

1157
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 1: Two weeks contract. Yeah, they're gonna go no more in

1158
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 1: that time frame. Three episodes what I have aired and

1159
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 1: so they can watch the ratings. If the show does well,

1160
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 1: then we extend the contract film the rest of the season.

1161
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 1: If it doesn't, we just cut the contract. You know,

1162
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 1: it's over with, we're done. So I mean we didn't

1163
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 1: have anything to lose or anything like that. So doing

1164
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 1: just doing our thing one more time, you know, because

1165
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 1: That's what always felt to me. It feel like you

1166
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 1: guys had anything to lose. You just go back to

1167
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 1: Gator Hunt. If it didn't work out, you weren't famous anymore.

1168
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 1: Who gave a crap? But premiere after the premier to

1169
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 1: tour about two week contract in Chinese with a five

1170
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 1: year contract. From two weeks to five years. Yeah, there's

1171
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 1: no TV executives in the room, but imagine if you

1172
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 1: were talking to one, they would like they would hold

1173
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 1: this show up and swamp people up as like the

1174
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,919
Speaker 1: thing that they're shooting for. Oh yeah, I mean it's

1175
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 1: been very good for the History Channel, has been very

1176
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 1: good for the producer that work you know on it.

1177
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 1: It's been good for us, you know, the Cash members.

1178
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 1: You know, the only shot part I feel on the

1179
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 1: end of the Cash people that something original people that

1180
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 1: started with it is not here no more. You know,

1181
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 1: they could have rote the wrote it out as long

1182
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 1: as we've rolled it out. But for certain reading here

1183
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:24,040
Speaker 1: and there, you know that some of them mightn't here

1184
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 1: no more. You guys had just some of the crew,

1185
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 1: they're back, this is you guys are gonna start filming

1186
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 1: what tomorrow next season? Right? And so he has filming

1187
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 1: five days a week, six days a week in September,

1188
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 1: and then they have a day you're telling me about

1189
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 1: to be roll, which is just extra shots. But you

1190
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 1: guys have good relationships to these camera guys them for

1191
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 1: years now, they know you guys better almost anybody. You know,

1192
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 1: we know being in it this many years. They know

1193
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 1: what we need to get out of a day's work,

1194
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 1: and we know what they need to get out of

1195
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 1: his day's work. And you know, we we don't waste

1196
01:07:57,800 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 1: time on stuff that doesn't need to be done, and

1197
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 1: you know, vice versa with them, and so we get

1198
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 1: along and makes it easy. And you know that way

1199
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 1: we when we get to something that's extra special art

1200
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 1: that comes about, we can take our time and spend

1201
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:13,440
Speaker 1: it on that certain deal and make you know, an

1202
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 1: episode out of it because we didn't waste it on

1203
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 1: something that did. If you got a good catch, you

1204
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:20,640
Speaker 1: you can take your time and let's make sure your

1205
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 1: cameraman got all the footage you need. Where the first

1206
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 1: year or two we wasted a lot of time on

1207
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 1: stuff that they never show. So now we got good

1208
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 1: enough and they understand where we cut all that out,

1209
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 1: and we just when we got a big gater that

1210
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:38,759
Speaker 1: wants to fight. I mean, we catch six hundred gators

1211
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 1: a year almost and maybe two they'll falled out of

1212
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:45,560
Speaker 1: them six hundred and make the show. Okay, that's what

1213
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 1: people don't realize. Uh, you know a lot of them

1214
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 1: don't have no fight in them, and some of them

1215
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 1: already to drown when we get to But when we

1216
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 1: do have one that's fresh and you got a full

1217
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 1: of pictient vinegar and want to fight, well we let

1218
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 1: him fight and we let the cameras roll until some time.

1219
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 1: I take us twenty minutes to get a shot on

1220
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 1: a big one. But you know, we know what they

1221
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 1: need and they know what kind of space we need

1222
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 1: to do our work and get fill. It doesn't seem

1223
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure there has been, Like theres there been some

1224
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 1: conflicts where they aired something that you didn't like or

1225
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 1: you guys seem like you got through this without it

1226
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 1: really And the most part, yeah, there are some things

1227
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 1: that you know, they just it gets cut and edited

1228
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 1: so much that sometimes we wish they'll just let it

1229
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 1: play out the way it you know, it just it happened,

1230
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:34,719
Speaker 1: and it just looks different to us to most people.

1231
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 1: It probably doesn't. But you know, we knew it happened

1232
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:39,720
Speaker 1: a little bit different, but for the most part, nine

1233
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 1: and nine percent of it is. But the thing about

1234
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 1: it is that we don't know what's gonna be on

1235
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 1: the show. You know, we we know some things that happened.

1236
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 1: You know, that's got to make the show. There's no

1237
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 1: way they could do without that. But a lot of stuff,

1238
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 1: you know, we really don't know what's gonna be on

1239
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 1: the episode in the morning, you do when it comes out.

1240
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 1: Sometimes the stuff that we thank they oh, they're gonna

1241
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 1: put dish on their show, where they don't put it,

1242
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 1: they put something else. And then their stuff that was

1243
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 1: like they ain't know it ain't putting that, you know,

1244
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 1: just joking like me or Jacob pulling a chap pulling

1245
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 1: up to a shypist tree and fighting a tin foot

1246
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 1: aut again. Then they go to commercial. When they come back,

1247
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 1: we're under wheellow tree fighting the ship's foot out again.

1248
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 1: You know, there's things like that that I think the

1249
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:24,760
Speaker 1: people in editing and all that they're not hunters and

1250
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 1: they're not out there. They sure they don't catch that,

1251
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 1: you know, they take a fight and then instead of

1252
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 1: playing it all out on that one fight they take

1253
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:36,720
Speaker 1: part of it, then they throw that commercial. When they

1254
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 1: come back to finish to fight, they grab some other

1255
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:43,599
Speaker 1: footage and they don't Yeah, because they didn't know. It's

1256
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 1: such a I mean to get people down here from

1257
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 1: all parts of the world that are making this show.

1258
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 1: They're filming it, they're producing and edited. One of the

1259
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 1: things that always is shocked me about it is the

1260
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 1: fact that it's this is mainstream cable TV and you

1261
01:10:56,960 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 1: guys are shooting gators in the head. You know that

1262
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 1: this is something that there's no mainstream They took. They

1263
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:09,599
Speaker 1: took Hunting off ESPN decade ago or more, and here

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Speaker 1: you guys are twelve years into a show and you

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01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 1: guys don't eat the gators on the You ever had

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01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 1: like meal scenes or the gators. There's something, there's some

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01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 1: but that's not like the point of no show that

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01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 1: the History Channel has done a real good job making

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01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:23,720
Speaker 1: sure of keeping the blood and the guts out of

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01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 1: the show and keep not showing the impact and all that,

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01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:29,599
Speaker 1: just to make sure and if they've done a really

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01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 1: really good job by doing that, and some people say, well,

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01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 1: you know why they why you see the alligator come

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01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 1: out of water and then they show you shooting it

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01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:38,600
Speaker 1: and they got a water splash. Well, you know we

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01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:41,519
Speaker 1: once we explained to them why then they understand it.

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Speaker 1: But you know, it wouldn't have lasted twelve years if

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01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 1: the History Channel wouldn't have kept it clean. Yeah, people

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01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 1: crying baby's with a racial much hell that they would

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01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:54,600
Speaker 1: have shut it down. I always thought that from the

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01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:56,560
Speaker 1: very beginning. I thought, this, man, we're gonna hard to

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01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:58,880
Speaker 1: get it. I hope forever. But you know, the History

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01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 1: Channel probably would have pulled out if they wouldn't have

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01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 1: kept it clean. Yeah, well, I think I just think

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01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 1: personally it says so much about you guys and other

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01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 1: people in the show, and this place and gators themselves,

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01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 1: like the fascination all kind of comes together because, as

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01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 1: you said, there's people are gonna complain about stuff dying

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01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 1: on animals dying on TV. I mean, that's just how

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01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 1: it is. You know. I've had people come up to me, Man,

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01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 1: why y'all killed him? Now? I look at us, I said,

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01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 1: brother one, I'm an usage hunta And I said, when

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01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 1: I go on a call and they come on somebody's

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01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 1: yard and theyate that some little woman's dog or somebody

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01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 1: the woman's cat or something like that. I saidn't. They're

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01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:41,760
Speaker 1: crying their little hard out. That's why we hunt them

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01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 1: to keep their numbers. It's all about population control. We

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01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 1: want a healthy population out of gators. We've been making

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01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 1: our living hunting them. We don't want to hurt them,

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01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 1: you know, hunt them to lower numbers. We want a

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01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 1: healthy population. But you gotta keep the numbers in check

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01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 1: because they're predators. Get predators. And when they get too

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01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:03,719
Speaker 1: many in the swamps and they run out of food,

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01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 1: guess where they're coming. They're coming to your yard. Yeah, yeah,

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01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 1: I mean it is. We have our North We talked

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01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 1: about that on this show a lot, the North American

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01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 1: model of wildlife conservation, and in it it says no

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01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 1: market for game animals. There's like elimination of the market

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01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:23,719
Speaker 1: for game animals was because the turn of the century,

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01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 1: we shot all the buffalo, we shot all the yelk,

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01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 1: because because there was value in the hides and in

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01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 1: the flesh, and and that stuff could could be sold.

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01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 1: So that part of the the idea. But this this

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01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 1: gator hunting that you guys do goes it goes against that.

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01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 1: Yet it works because well you're talking about hunting. You're

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01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:46,920
Speaker 1: kind of hunting the fringes of the population. Okay, what

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01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 1: you're talking about it the Turner de shantry. You had

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01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 1: to there was no no control, and then you had

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01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 1: the Great Depression. Okay. People had to cute food, okay

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01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 1: to eat while you think all the wild turkeys down

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01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:05,719
Speaker 1: here was eliminated and have the deer and everything else.

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01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 1: People were hunting hard for food. It was that a starve.

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01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 1: They didn't give a crap about conservation and all of that.

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01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 1: Now you know, it's limited, it's population control. It's what

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01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 1: I tell people it is. We we're gonna take six

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01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 1: hundred alligators almost out of the swamps in the next

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01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 1: three to four weeks. And three days after we're done,

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01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 1: you and ride through the boders where we've been hunting,

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01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 1: and you angle bit to tell we called anything. It

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01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:36,000
Speaker 1: looked like we didn't catch you none. That's how many

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01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:39,640
Speaker 1: they have. And really we're doing I don't know how

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01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 1: to say that, but we're actually doing the alligator population

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01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 1: a favor by taking some out. Because you know, there's

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01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 1: some places we go like carl Ireland and all that

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01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 1: they're skinny. They'm alligator are starving. There's too many. They're skinny.

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01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 1: You got a long cant food all get it. That

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01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:04,120
Speaker 1: don't win three hundred pounds, he should win five of

1338
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:08,479
Speaker 1: chicks hundred pounds. Sure, you know, the elk and the

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01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 1: buffalos and all of that. They wiped them out, which

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01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:15,760
Speaker 1: should have never happened. But you can't change history. You

1341
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 1: learned from it and move on. Now we have illegal

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01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:23,360
Speaker 1: elk sheeesing hunting, but they controlled hunting, cheating, just like

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01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:27,480
Speaker 1: the alligator cheesing is controlled. You take a small percentage

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01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:30,680
Speaker 1: of very small. We always say it's the you know,

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01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:33,559
Speaker 1: it is the reliable. It's the use of a natural resource,

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01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 1: sustainable use of a natural resource. And we've we've gone

1347
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 1: through their last episodes of this show talking about wolves

1348
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 1: and bears and all this predation, and we've talked I've

1349
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 1: talked to biologists from all over the place about it

1350
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 1: with every different opinion you could think of. And it's

1351
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 1: crazy that you come down here and you see the

1352
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 1: same thing. It's exactly the same thing, you know. But

1353
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:53,600
Speaker 1: we had the guy who was the first person to

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01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 1: codify the model of conservation come on and he was

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01:15:56,200 --> 01:16:00,120
Speaker 1: talking about intelligent intervention because like, we can think this

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01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 1: through and do this right. Oh yeah, it can be

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01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 1: done right. Wolves in Montana, Gators in Louisiana. I went,

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01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 1: I went a few months. I don't know, it's been

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01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 1: longer than that. I went a while back. On a

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01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:14,639
Speaker 1: nusance call at nine o'clock at night. This old later

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01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 1: from Pep Park. She was she's a widow. Her husband

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01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 1: passed away a couple of years ago. Well, she went

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01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 1: to a prayer meeting. She goes, I think it was

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01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:25,639
Speaker 1: a Wednesday night. Maybe she goes to some little prayer

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01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:27,640
Speaker 1: meeting with all her and her old friends. You know,

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01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 1: she came back home and when she pulled up in

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01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:33,760
Speaker 1: her garage, you had a nine foot alligator in her garage.

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01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 1: Lucky she's seen it before she got out of the car. Okay,

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01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:40,600
Speaker 1: because the alligator could have bid it. She could have

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01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:42,720
Speaker 1: scared her and give a heart attack, or she could

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01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 1: have tripped and broke her leg or here put something.

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01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 1: You don't know. But she's seen him before. She got

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01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 1: out of her car, and she backed up. Call wild

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01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:51,760
Speaker 1: Life and Fish with the dish sent me over that

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01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 1: it was a nine foot alligator in her garage at

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01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:59,679
Speaker 1: nine o'clock at night. There's no shortage of alligators over here.

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01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:03,360
Speaker 1: I mean, even though we take a lot out, there

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01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:07,680
Speaker 1: is no shorty that really there's too many. I think

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01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 1: there's too many. I'm prettient we hunt the alligator the skinny. Well,

1380
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:12,680
Speaker 1: you were telling me that you kind of you end

1381
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:14,920
Speaker 1: up hunting the edges of the population because you have

1382
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:19,680
Speaker 1: these large area, these vast areas where the swamp. When

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01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 1: the swamp water goes up, these gators can access places

1384
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 1: where you can't get to know one can get, and

1385
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:28,160
Speaker 1: then they spread out. When the water goes down, then

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01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 1: they come. They have to come to the waters that

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01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 1: you guys can access some fish. Yeah, just like the

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01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 1: alligator we call today was right at the leven foot loan.

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01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 1: That alligator. Two weeks from now, we're gonna catch the

1390
01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:41,720
Speaker 1: alligator that length in the river. That's gonna make it

1391
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 1: look like that would have been eight foot. You know,

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01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 1: he's gonna be the same length, but he's gonna be

1393
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 1: twice the alligator just because of the feed that's available

1394
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:51,040
Speaker 1: for him. And he's gonna look twice the size of them. Yeah,

1395
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 1: that's crazy. The one you get the full tax every

1396
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:54,559
Speaker 1: when you got back here, looks at up and even

1397
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 1: your son Ridge was like, look how fat this thing

1398
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 1: is as compared to the one, and didn't do them justice.

1399
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:01,800
Speaker 1: Whenever we call him he looked even bigger than that. Yeah,

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01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys think about that anytime you're just

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01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 1: catching dinosaurs like you've caught how many thousands of How

1402
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:12,600
Speaker 1: it has been around forever? I mean, I'm not I

1403
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 1: don't know nothing about nothing. I come here and that's

1404
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 1: the most respect I've had for any animal to see.

1405
01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:22,800
Speaker 1: They will be around forever, two longer than Yeah, didn't

1406
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:26,760
Speaker 1: want to. They can go much without food. They can

1407
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:29,880
Speaker 1: eat every day for three weeks if they get they

1408
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 1: store food. I mean, it's a remarkable animal. Did people

1409
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 1: don't give him enough credit? No, they don't. They're they're

1410
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:40,559
Speaker 1: they fall into that. You know, they're oftentimes a cartoon

1411
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:44,720
Speaker 1: and they're oftentimes you know, anther momorphized and things like that.

1412
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:48,800
Speaker 1: Where you selling it, I can't barely say it even

1413
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 1: sha anthropomorphized. We gotta start drinking. I'm gonna give get

1414
01:18:57,439 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 1: on that. I'm mad about the spunky monkey. By the way,

1415
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:03,160
Speaker 1: you gotta we got a spunky monkey a lot, man. Yeah, man,

1416
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:07,679
Speaker 1: I'm mad atout that this COVID bullshit. The closest people

1417
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:10,160
Speaker 1: tell peop about smunky monkey Troy. People don't know about that.

1418
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:13,360
Speaker 1: When I was young, they had a by tin bard

1419
01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:15,920
Speaker 1: around here that you could go actually as by boat,

1420
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 1: and they'd have more people would drive up at them

1421
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 1: barroom by board and by vehicles. Everybody had a boat

1422
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 1: over here. Okay, not everybody had a car or a truck,

1423
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 1: but everybody had a boat. Now Alden bars on the water,

1424
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:32,000
Speaker 1: the almost all gone as I think they're spunking monkey.

1425
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:35,639
Speaker 1: That's about it. And Jake there's a few, oh yeah,

1426
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 1: but yeah, like in Stevensville, Mosquito Barr and uh Grows

1427
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 1: and all but part in Bell River you had a

1428
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 1: dozen of them that you could actually by boat. When

1429
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:47,759
Speaker 1: I were young. They all have the dackers, the alcoholic dackers.

1430
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 1: Now we have that messing that right now. You get

1431
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 1: a whole star from cup your head. You can't get

1432
01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:58,880
Speaker 1: them to go with your spunk. The monkey Clints, Clint,

1433
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:02,920
Speaker 1: you Clint got him a al You can drive through

1434
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:07,519
Speaker 1: they have drive through dak or place. Listen, if you've

1435
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 1: never been to Louisiana and you're listening to this partners,

1436
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 1: you can come to Louisiana and drive up to a

1437
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 1: place and say, I'll have to give me a start

1438
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 1: from cup full of booze dacker and you just drive aways.

1439
01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:24,760
Speaker 1: It's a giant straw come down the top and you

1440
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:26,600
Speaker 1: just drink that sucker. Noo. They got a piece of

1441
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 1: tape over the top. So that's that's a barrier. That's

1442
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:32,840
Speaker 1: like the thing where d u I gotta blow to

1443
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 1: start your car, similar to that. But that's one of

1444
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:38,439
Speaker 1: the beauties down here, you know, the Spunky Monkey. So

1445
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:41,080
Speaker 1: I would man, I take I hope they come a

1446
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 1: sponsor the podcast at some point we can do some

1447
01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 1: podcasts from the Spunky Monkey. When they open back up, Yeah,

1448
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:49,040
Speaker 1: why not? Are you? Are they gonna open back up?

1449
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:51,439
Speaker 1: These bars like this will open back from the COVID

1450
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:56,160
Speaker 1: weight closures. Just unfortunately they missed a good you know summer,

1451
01:20:56,320 --> 01:21:00,640
Speaker 1: you know, a really good Yeah, unfortunately another part of

1452
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:03,479
Speaker 1: the economy here. But yeah, that's that's that's another point.

1453
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 1: We went to some fish camps when we were, you know,

1454
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:08,720
Speaker 1: putting out lines the other day, and that there's these

1455
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 1: like cultural places where people you can't access it, you

1456
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 1: can't access unless you have a boat. And and to

1457
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:19,560
Speaker 1: most people that seems that seems crazy. Yeah, yeah, so

1458
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 1: you have that, you got the spunky monkey, you got

1459
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:24,559
Speaker 1: what other that other bar that was closed grows Marina.

1460
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:26,800
Speaker 1: Like you saw how the sage of some of them

1461
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 1: camps and all that was brought there by boat and

1462
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:31,639
Speaker 1: built there out there, you know, and it's pretty neat

1463
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:33,600
Speaker 1: how they do all of that. Who's this coming in?

1464
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:40,639
Speaker 1: This is Moda, My wife's grandma, Hidora. How are you welcome?

1465
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 1: You know what a podcast is? You ever been in

1466
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 1: a podcast? Every time? Everything at that? All right, Well,

1467
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:54,600
Speaker 1: you know what we gotta do. We have to go

1468
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 1: film you guys, uh making some fried gator if you

1469
01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 1: don't mind, some people know your secret, all your secrets,

1470
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:02,680
Speaker 1: because all the stuff we just had here, we had

1471
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 1: bulllet balls, is that I'll say it around bulllet balls

1472
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:11,080
Speaker 1: bull that there was gar, garfish, all kinds of stuff

1473
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 1: and gar you can make. You can make a guar

1474
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:16,640
Speaker 1: paddy like a Hamburger patty. You can make them like

1475
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 1: hamburger padded, or you can make guar balls. You make

1476
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:22,640
Speaker 1: it like a meat ball. With him. Yeah, it was

1477
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 1: like a like a hush puppy was grinded up. This

1478
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 1: mixed with onions and all kinds of stuff seasonings and

1479
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 1: all gar if yeah, if you never had Garson, then

1480
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 1: we had fried what else? Fried everything, fried, gator, froged fish,

1481
01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 1: fried chicken, chicken there. We didn't have frog legs this time,

1482
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:42,360
Speaker 1: but that's I don't know. My freed to went out.

1483
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:51,439
Speaker 1: We had a crawfish race was delicious, Tata sality to salad,

1484
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:53,000
Speaker 1: no wonder. I don't know how we got through a

1485
01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:54,639
Speaker 1: podcast of the hour. We've been going for an hour

1486
01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 1: and five minutes, Troy full all this. People don't know

1487
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:01,880
Speaker 1: how tired. I gotta go home. My kids are waiting on.

1488
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:08,559
Speaker 1: Let you and Jacob vndiation. Well, I'll check on my keys.

1489
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 1: You get the hell out of here. But all I'll

1490
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 1: say is thank you guys for taking time. But you know,

1491
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:20,720
Speaker 1: being uh, I'm sure if you go on every part

1492
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:24,840
Speaker 1: of this country into the little town, not the big city,

1493
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:29,080
Speaker 1: but the little towns, the country towns, there are things

1494
01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 1: that people used to do that they don't do no more. Okay,

1495
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 1: I don't care if you go to Texas, or you

1496
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:38,840
Speaker 1: go to New York in the country in New York,

1497
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 1: or you go to North California, the little communities that

1498
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 1: are out in the country where people used to live

1499
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:49,479
Speaker 1: off the land or make a living off of the land.

1500
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 1: It's changing now. It's changing all over, not just in

1501
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 1: shout Louisiana. I mean we changing drastically over here. Okay,

1502
01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:03,320
Speaker 1: but I'm sure it's like that old louver. Where's your life?

1503
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:08,759
Speaker 1: New generation you? Where they're doing thang you? Technology? Everything's changing.

1504
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 1: I had a man asked me I was working an event.

1505
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:16,640
Speaker 1: I don't remember where it was. I don't know up

1506
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:20,599
Speaker 1: the country somewhere. I had a man act, Mr. Landry,

1507
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,479
Speaker 1: share what kind of electronics you got on your boat?

1508
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:26,599
Speaker 1: I said, what kind of What you said? What kind

1509
01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 1: of electronics you got on your bullet? I ain't got

1510
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 1: no legs. If I had something, I wouldn't know how

1511
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 1: to operate? Where's your gate? You find? I gotta attack

1512
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:40,919
Speaker 1: a tie? Comment that I showed me how many rpm

1513
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:43,280
Speaker 1: my motors turning? That's all I got. That's one thing

1514
01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 1: I'll say is it is the like people think catching

1515
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:49,720
Speaker 1: the gator is a difficult. It's a rope. Look what

1516
01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:52,679
Speaker 1: kind of hook is it? Number three? Three shark? Number

1517
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 1: three number three sharker. We don't a piece of rotten chicken, Cora,

1518
01:24:57,520 --> 01:24:59,439
Speaker 1: rotten chick, and it kind of rotten bait. I don't

1519
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:01,880
Speaker 1: a couple of a couple of simple knots and a

1520
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 1: clothes pin. That's it. So you need and a twenty two.

1521
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:08,040
Speaker 1: They don't even need to have sights on it, you know,

1522
01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:10,280
Speaker 1: and other and how to hunt out again it they

1523
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 1: didn't use for those pin that was too expansion in

1524
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 1: the branch which had a notch in the brain. And

1525
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:19,680
Speaker 1: that's it. That's what you're saying. This is such a

1526
01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:23,719
Speaker 1: traditional thing that you need literally need rope, a hook

1527
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 1: and a clothes pin and you can get it done.

1528
01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 1: And you need a twenty two. Yeah, you don't even

1529
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:30,680
Speaker 1: need a clothes pain. Yeah you need that here we

1530
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:32,800
Speaker 1: are as long as there's rots, you know, you're they

1531
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:34,800
Speaker 1: used to not even they put them out the den.

1532
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:37,559
Speaker 1: They'd find a dinge. They then in the same dinge

1533
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 1: every year. And if you killed two or three day's

1534
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:42,599
Speaker 1: using a dinge, some other ones are gonna take over

1535
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 1: that then. So the old people used to hunt them

1536
01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 1: with hat chrich and a pole. They pull them out

1537
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 1: and and kill them. But that was before that regulations

1538
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:53,760
Speaker 1: and all. Just like they hoping the buffalo, they will

1539
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:58,040
Speaker 1: hunt it hard and almost almost to extinction, and then

1540
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 1: they came back, you know what, which trick regulations and

1541
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:03,599
Speaker 1: all that. Now they come back and now we overrun

1542
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 1: with them. We really got too many regulations now because

1543
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:12,080
Speaker 1: they they could double and and look, I'm all for conserving.

1544
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:15,280
Speaker 1: I don't want to hurt the population or nothing. Okay,

1545
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:18,240
Speaker 1: I want to health the population of deer and rabbit

1546
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:22,040
Speaker 1: and squirrel and alligated. I don't want to overhunt nothing

1547
01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:24,840
Speaker 1: because I want my grandkids and order them to have

1548
01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:26,920
Speaker 1: a good time and be able to see stuff, you know,

1549
01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:33,240
Speaker 1: and and have fun. But because there was no regulations,

1550
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 1: they will hunt it to almost extinction. And then now

1551
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:39,559
Speaker 1: we will run with them. Now they could they could

1552
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:42,920
Speaker 1: actually double the tags they give us for certain tracks

1553
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 1: of land. Not every track of land, but for certain

1554
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 1: tracks of land. They could double the tags they give

1555
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:51,680
Speaker 1: us for four or five years and it wouldn't hurt

1556
01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 1: the population at all. You would see a difference. You

1557
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:57,599
Speaker 1: want a difference. There's so many less assuming less hunters too, right,

1558
01:26:57,680 --> 01:27:00,560
Speaker 1: I mean, And you know, once it's this showever you

1559
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:03,200
Speaker 1: might you guys might go. He hasn't gone longer than friend.

1560
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:05,519
Speaker 1: When you go, when you go further north, when you

1561
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:08,880
Speaker 1: go further north, let's shore. You get by ten by

1562
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:13,000
Speaker 1: brutler rules, will flood stage on the Chaffela River there's

1563
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:15,960
Speaker 1: twenty five. So the river got to get the twenty

1564
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:19,280
Speaker 1: five ft before it starts flooding the banks over here

1565
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:22,280
Speaker 1: in Mark and Shitty outflow stage is six ft. That's

1566
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:25,680
Speaker 1: how much Loura we are here and Botler Rose and

1567
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:29,240
Speaker 1: going north. I think you could hurt the population if

1568
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 1: you over if he wasn't careful when you over hunted

1569
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:34,000
Speaker 1: them for a few years. But where we at with

1570
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:37,000
Speaker 1: the miles and miles of swamp that they will never dry.

1571
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 1: They got they flooded year round. We were saying it earlier.

1572
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:43,960
Speaker 1: The sasquats could. Man, if he could hang with the mosquitoes,

1573
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 1: he'd be he'd never find it. He'd most probably sinking

1574
01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:51,920
Speaker 1: quick to handle. You have to walk across that swamp.

1575
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 1: You be in trouble, Well, we gotta send you home

1576
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:58,240
Speaker 1: to your wife. Be skinny, because yeah, he would't have

1577
01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 1: much to eat. Yeah he's walking That swump is hard

1578
01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:03,720
Speaker 1: on you. Yeah, well we're gonna send you home with

1579
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 1: your wife. Troy Um. Like I said, Man, I just

1580
01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:08,439
Speaker 1: appreciate you guys having me here and being so welcoming

1581
01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:11,200
Speaker 1: to everybody, let alone me and taking the time out

1582
01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:14,519
Speaker 1: of your season that you know, Take a Montana kid.

1583
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:17,280
Speaker 1: I'm not even from Montana, but I lived there. Take

1584
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:20,840
Speaker 1: somebody from Montana. Let him slow you down all day.

1585
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:26,400
Speaker 1: We enjoy it. I'm ready to go. Get out of

1586
01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:28,800
Speaker 1: the wet boots. I've been My feet been choked since

1587
01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:33,160
Speaker 1: this morning. That right off the bat, Right off the bat,

1588
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:36,559
Speaker 1: we got rain full of water sin what are nine

1589
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:40,160
Speaker 1: o'clock this morning? Belly full of fried gator and yeah,

1590
01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 1: it was good. We had a good hunt. We caught

1591
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:45,040
Speaker 1: what thirty five, Jacob, We caught thirty five all together,

1592
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:47,479
Speaker 1: and we come back. We had crow fiship to fa

1593
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:54,400
Speaker 1: Bagata child at fraud Allagata, frid got fish, even chicken

1594
01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 1: and cash. Somebody didn't want to eat alleghettokite fish. I

1595
01:28:58,120 --> 01:29:00,479
Speaker 1: didn't have any chicken though, no shot and the chicken.

1596
01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:03,479
Speaker 1: I had a rotten chicken earlier in the day. It's

1597
01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:06,559
Speaker 1: hard to eat chicken. Do an alligator s on my shirt?

1598
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:09,640
Speaker 1: There's no I was smelling my fingernails earlier. That's never

1599
01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:15,639
Speaker 1: gonna go away. That'll be there for a week. Lemon, Yeah,

1600
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:18,640
Speaker 1: I'll be gutting it out next week in Montema that

1601
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 1: we're talking. Yeah, it's smelling that game. Smelling that rotis

1602
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:28,640
Speaker 1: probably in the fifties over there. That next week we

1603
01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:30,240
Speaker 1: could be in the sixties. At the end of next

1604
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:32,840
Speaker 1: week here you had to put your jackets on sixth

1605
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:37,559
Speaker 1: over here? Are you serious? I mean, you know, it's

1606
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:40,280
Speaker 1: just it's just something I noticed about two weeks ago.

1607
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:43,599
Speaker 1: You got three or four types of treat over here

1608
01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:46,880
Speaker 1: that are the first one to lose their leaves, and

1609
01:29:47,479 --> 01:29:50,559
Speaker 1: I noticed about two weeks ago they already turning colors.

1610
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:54,760
Speaker 1: It made me think about that that we could hot

1611
01:29:54,840 --> 01:29:56,880
Speaker 1: like it is. It's hard to imagine having some early

1612
01:29:57,000 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 1: cool weather because it's so hot over here right now,

1613
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,080
Speaker 1: but it made me think we might have. I mean,

1614
01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:04,120
Speaker 1: we still in August, and some of them are starting

1615
01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:06,360
Speaker 1: to turn right there, pass all the marine and be

1616
01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:09,760
Speaker 1: catting with trees. They lost their leaves and the m

1617
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:13,120
Speaker 1: the m trees, the ms are already starting to turn

1618
01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:17,760
Speaker 1: brown and fall off the leaves. Yeah, it's August. That's weird.

1619
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:20,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what you call them in England, but

1620
01:30:20,479 --> 01:30:24,120
Speaker 1: some copas I noticed something of the copas, the leaves

1621
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:29,720
Speaker 1: are turning brown in the coopos already so cold, it's

1622
01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:33,080
Speaker 1: gonna get cold. I don't I wish, I don't have most.

1623
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:35,680
Speaker 1: I'm ready for cool. Whether it's been a hot summer, man,

1624
01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:39,720
Speaker 1: it looks like every year as we get older, it

1625
01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:42,200
Speaker 1: looks like it get harder. I don't think the summers

1626
01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:44,360
Speaker 1: are getting hot. I just think it's harder on us.

1627
01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:46,760
Speaker 1: It's harder for us to take them. When we were

1628
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:49,439
Speaker 1: twenty thirty years old, we didn't know how hot it was,

1629
01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:52,320
Speaker 1: and probably just as hot as it did now. You

1630
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:54,479
Speaker 1: had gags. What you tell me one time he's called

1631
01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:56,840
Speaker 1: eighty gators in a day or something like that. Jacob

1632
01:30:56,920 --> 01:30:58,720
Speaker 1: was unloading the boat and you'd go back out, and

1633
01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:04,280
Speaker 1: I about fifty shows twelve years old, swamp peoples twelve

1634
01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:06,960
Speaker 1: years old. So I'd say this was about fifteen years ago,

1635
01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:11,200
Speaker 1: Clint and I. Clint was helping me, and we called

1636
01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:14,320
Speaker 1: eighty two the first day of the season, and I

1637
01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:17,000
Speaker 1: had the weather was perfect, that bad weather. That was

1638
01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:19,759
Speaker 1: about a day or two out, and I had told

1639
01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:22,480
Speaker 1: Jacob the night before to make sure he was available

1640
01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:25,360
Speaker 1: with the backup boat. The haul of men forest and

1641
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:28,800
Speaker 1: what you made three or four loads that day at

1642
01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:31,479
Speaker 1: eight o'clock or eight thirty in the morning, I would

1643
01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:33,560
Speaker 1: I couldn't put another alligate in my boat. I was

1644
01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:37,640
Speaker 1: about to sink the boat and giants. He came to

1645
01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:40,680
Speaker 1: the boat ramp with his pickup truck and at eight

1646
01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:42,479
Speaker 1: thirty in the morning, we couldn't put them all in

1647
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:44,519
Speaker 1: the back of his shovel at pickup truck. I had

1648
01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:46,559
Speaker 1: to leave two big ones in the bottom of my boat.

1649
01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:49,040
Speaker 1: You couldn't put them all in the back of his truck.

1650
01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:52,680
Speaker 1: At eight third in the morning, am I right? In

1651
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:56,920
Speaker 1: thirty he emptied my boat. I'd share about eleven ten

1652
01:31:57,040 --> 01:32:00,879
Speaker 1: thirty eleven you came back and emptied me about Michelle

1653
01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:04,160
Speaker 1: canal could have broken out. Then you came back that

1654
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:08,160
Speaker 1: afternoon by Mr Joko Dash and pairport right here and

1655
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:11,320
Speaker 1: met man the boat ramp and emptied my boat. And

1656
01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:14,479
Speaker 1: then I don't remember I bought the last Luda, but

1657
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:17,960
Speaker 1: I think you know. I came back and meet a

1658
01:32:18,040 --> 01:32:20,599
Speaker 1: lot of lines run the last few lines we called

1659
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:23,639
Speaker 1: eighty two the first day one year by fifteen years ago.

1660
01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:25,960
Speaker 1: And I hope to the good Lord I never catch

1661
01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:29,599
Speaker 1: one day. Jacobs tell me you just hang, you hang

1662
01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:33,760
Speaker 1: too many lines. No, you can't help. I'm maxed out.

1663
01:32:34,680 --> 01:32:38,200
Speaker 1: It's already caught in thirty to forty lines today before

1664
01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:43,400
Speaker 1: the gator. Yeah, listen, I didn't make myself. I am

1665
01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:47,640
Speaker 1: who I am? I send my DNA. I didn't make

1666
01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:50,559
Speaker 1: myself my mom and dad. It made me blame them

1667
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:54,360
Speaker 1: all my defects, all my good part. We love you,

1668
01:32:54,760 --> 01:32:57,240
Speaker 1: We love that. Wasn't that made? All right? I got

1669
01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:08,920
Speaker 1: check on my children. I see Troy. We're outta here later.

1670
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:13,680
Speaker 1: Thanks Troy, we're out of here. To Jacob, we're gonna go.

1671
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:17,639
Speaker 1: You're probably jumping the pool. Do something fun Sunday night here.

1672
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:20,760
Speaker 1: So thanks for everything, brother, thanks for having me. We'll

1673
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:31,759
Speaker 1: see you next time. Bye. That's it. That's all another

1674
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:34,960
Speaker 1: episode of the Hunting Collective in the books. Thanks to

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Speaker 1: Troy and Jacob Landry. We missed old Phil on this episode.

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Speaker 1: He's back in Bozeman. He'll edit this up for you,

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Speaker 1: make it sound good. It was. It's an amazing place here.

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Speaker 1: I've said it in the podcast. Said it while we

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Speaker 1: were out on the swamp, rolling around on the boat.

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Speaker 1: Boat full of gators, kids, whole family, husband's, wives, grandfather's,

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Speaker 1: everybody taking part in this thing they call gator hunting,

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Speaker 1: we're gatorficient, gator catching, no matter what they call it.

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Speaker 1: It kind of it's not only the traditions that are

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Speaker 1: important to me, but it's learning about the wildlife, conservation

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Speaker 1: and the story of this landscape because certainly, Troy Landry,

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Speaker 1: Jacob Landry, Ridge Landry, they are generationally important to this

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Speaker 1: place and they will remain so, especially telling its story,

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Speaker 1: which I think hopefully you all found compelling. And certainly,

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Speaker 1: as Troy said, there is a lot that goes on

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Speaker 1: here and some of the things, the traditions that these

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Speaker 1: folks are losing, the ways of life that they're losing. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it's going to be similar in many small towns and

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Speaker 1: many rural areas around this country. So if you're experiencing

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Speaker 1: that yourself, hopefully you can find some silver lining. And

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Speaker 1: Troy and Jacob in their story and as I said before,

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Speaker 1: I'll say again, they are amazing, amazing people and their

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Speaker 1: way of life is absolutely enthralling and it's something that

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Speaker 1: draws you in, it makes you feel at home at

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Speaker 1: So hopefully one day you guys can all make it

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Speaker 1: down to Pierre Part come to Duffy's, meet Troy and Jacob,

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Speaker 1: and their family, and you will be welcomed and they

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Speaker 1: will they'll probably give you a hug even though they

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Speaker 1: don't know you. They'll take a picture, they'll sign an autograph,

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Speaker 1: they'll do what they do. So next week we're gonna

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Speaker 1: rock and roll, get into Elk season, leave this great

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Speaker 1: adventure behind, get into Elk season with our friend Remy

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Speaker 1: Warren from Cutting the Distance. He's gonna have all the

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Speaker 1: Elk tips, all the Elk stories, and a story about

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Speaker 1: how he saved his wife. Next week episode one for

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Speaker 1: you two of the Hunting Collective, and we'll have phillback

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Speaker 1: because we missed Phil. So we will see you then

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Speaker 1: next Tuesday. Bye bye, Because I can't go a week

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Speaker 1: without doing rock Drank to Heaven,