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Speaker 1: Welcome to Pretty Private with Ebina, a space where no

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Speaker 2: Hey, y'all, instagral Ebine here, and I hope all is cute.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to another episode of Pretty Private with Ebina. Okay,

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Speaker 2: this week we are back with part two of my

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Speaker 2: conversation with the one and Only DL Whisperer and Baby.

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Speaker 2: We talked about the red flags look out for the

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Speaker 2: types of jobs that DL men tend to work at,

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Speaker 2: how to stay safe when dealing with someone who may

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Speaker 2: be on the lull, which is very, very very important

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Speaker 2: ladies and men. And get this, I don't know about y'all,

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Speaker 2: but I never heard about DL women, so we definitely

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Speaker 2: get into that.

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Speaker 3: And also let me know what y'all think about this

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Speaker 3: week's episode.

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Speaker 2: Last week, y'all really enjoyed the conversation to the point

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Speaker 3: Okay, now get.

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Speaker 2: Ready because Part two with the DL Whisper starts now.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say another good point that you made is

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Speaker 2: when a man talks about his history and it's always inconsistent.

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Speaker 3: And I was like, that's a fact, right, because.

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Speaker 4: The inconsistency is in especially any history, but especially in

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Speaker 4: relationship history, because me and don't just be sitting around

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Speaker 4: saving themselves for the right woman.

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Speaker 5: Let's be clear.

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Speaker 4: When they can't give you history, it's like, okay, either

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Speaker 4: you will be in a whore, which is cool, just

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Speaker 4: be honest, or there's something that he doesn't want you

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Speaker 4: to know. And in general, if he's inconsistently, like especially

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Speaker 4: life history and relationship, if he just can't give you

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Speaker 4: any consistent information about him, that means that he's trying

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Speaker 4: to keep hisself mysterious. And that's usually what d o,

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Speaker 4: man dud, because they don't want you to know too

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Speaker 4: much because the more you know, the more you're able

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Speaker 4: to figure out. They're gonna be listeners. And if telling

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Speaker 4: you things, it's probably lies. That's always tell people when

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Speaker 4: you first, get with a man, it's okay to verify

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Speaker 4: some things that he's saying at first, because you need

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Speaker 5: That's how you build.

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Speaker 4: Aware of thaw to know when he's lying to you.

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Speaker 4: Because okay, he told me these things, they verifyed. I

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Speaker 4: asked them three weeks later the same question. He gave

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Speaker 4: you the same answer. We can assume that, Okay, this

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Speaker 4: is how he acts when he's telling the truth.

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Speaker 5: He's normal.

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Speaker 4: He gave a different answer, but he started fidgeting or

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Speaker 4: doing certain things. That's how I pick up on pattern

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Speaker 4: recognition because a lot of people don't do that. So

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Speaker 4: that's always telling like you got time to figure it

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Speaker 4: out before you get to the bedroom. Because if you

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Speaker 4: get to the bedroom with the DL man, you're in

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Speaker 4: love and you're.

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Speaker 5: Right. So that's all you gotta felt before the bedroom.

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Speaker 2: At last, not least the number one red flag that

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Speaker 2: I always say, if a nigga loved being around his

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Speaker 2: nigga's too fucking much.

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Speaker 4: Boom right, Yeah, so being around the friends, especially, like

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Speaker 4: I always say, like, of course men spend time with

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Speaker 4: this is something that you think about. When men are

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Speaker 4: getting drunk and high and doing all of this stuff together,

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Speaker 4: they get horny, just like when he with you and

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Speaker 4: home together drunk, Like what you think happening? Somebody giving

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Speaker 4: you and fucking you Like you need to be thinking like, Okay,

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Speaker 4: with somebody. Let's always say like I never go straight.

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Speaker 5: It's the man, but.

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Speaker 4: It's something that you should be paying attention to. And

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Speaker 4: if he around his friends, because I've been a friend,

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Speaker 4: so ji, I got a bunch of straight male friends

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Speaker 4: that let them drink lean, right, letting them drink a

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Speaker 4: slap yes, now you want to DoPT me up and

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Speaker 5: I'm just like, here we go.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 4: If we go, you want to be so close, don't

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Speaker 4: they hate you or that they're not in it. They're

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Speaker 4: gonna be slamming shit always like you said, always unhappy,

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Speaker 4: always looking for some reason for you to not want

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Speaker 4: you know, go do what they actually want.

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Speaker 5: To do, or they can make up and excuse to

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Speaker 5: go be with their boys.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But does I think you feel uncomfortable when you're around

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Speaker 4: Yes, Because let's always tell people like men in general

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Speaker 4: can't turn a man out, that's what me and aren't

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Speaker 5: They're they're literally playing bring it out. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I was about to say some straight men, because if

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Speaker 4: like we built the friendship off of lies because you

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Speaker 4: really be friending people for real, Like most of most

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Speaker 4: Like you'll see a whole group of fine ass niggas

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Speaker 4: How all fine niggas ended up together because they all

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Speaker 5: Mm hmmm, because think about it, why do women?

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Speaker 4: Women will be friends with anybody like it is not

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Speaker 4: the fact Now I'm not gonna say someone women, but

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Speaker 5: You gotta look this certain way and you gotta yet

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Speaker 3: Women not ugly. They just broke. So I agree, like

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Speaker 3: I do. I agree with you.

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Speaker 2: If I see a group of a group of niggas

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Speaker 2: they adding them because y'all.

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Speaker 4: It's too much like it's clear that there's the attraction

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Speaker 4: is the basis of the friend shild mm hmm. Because again,

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Speaker 5: They got it.

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you, mark my words. If a man that's

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Speaker 5: If you have a male friend, he's either gay or

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because I'm like, think that men they're unless they're gay,

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Speaker 4: because again, men aren't thinking like that. Every every move

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Speaker 4: why they're so transactional. That's why they're so easy, because

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Speaker 4: Even in this process, like a lot of these niggas.

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Speaker 4: If women hit me up and I'm trying to figure

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Speaker 5: Yield like some of them.

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Speaker 4: If they tell me they man money hungry, I'll start

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Speaker 4: off sending dollar signs. Let's let's see how money hunger

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Speaker 4: you actually are. And some of them they go forward

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Speaker 4: immediately what because they that money hungry.

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Speaker 5: That's all they say. If your man is too money hungry,

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Speaker 4: And it don't even they don't even be wanting a

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Speaker 4: asking for thousands. That's why I say. And niggas don't

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Speaker 4: like y'all have the potential. But I mean nobody. Again,

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Speaker 4: try to vicariously live through women. That's why you'll see

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Speaker 3: The end of the day, women fucking niggas while they

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Speaker 5: Right, yeah, or they're cockling, yo.

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Speaker 4: So that's why he's always men are always used in

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Speaker 4: women in some way, and those aren't men that love

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Speaker 4: women either, because you wouldn't be out here, like I

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Speaker 4: don't even want to because the word, it's the word

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Speaker 4: is exploits. But yeah, I guess everybody being explored in

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Speaker 4: some way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, stand the light y'all? Yeah, standing the light.

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Speaker 3: You know where that came from?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god?

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Speaker 4: Yo?

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Speaker 3: What yow? Five has been a ship show?

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Speaker 2: And I feel like we're just getting started with all

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Speaker 2: these celebrity.

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Speaker 3: Drama and people just being exposed.

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Speaker 5: Like there's been a lot of right.

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Speaker 2: And then with the recent allegations of someone Yeah, like

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Speaker 2: it's just it's really fucking.

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Speaker 5: Crazy, right, I wasn't shocked.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not shocked about anything no more because

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Speaker 2: we don't know these people.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that's why I'm telling it's so many people that

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Speaker 4: I just be like, but I have tried to stay.

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Speaker 5: Some people people some people you people just.

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Speaker 4: Don't absolutely not believe it. So sometimes you're gonna have

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Speaker 2: But people also have to learn how to separate the

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Speaker 2: art from the person. True, because I think sometimes people

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Speaker 2: to the show. That's why when I was in Paris

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Speaker 2: No that is I feel like a man Lilan download

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Speaker 4: like they have to because sometimes, like I said, whether

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Speaker 4: they're in sports stores, certain medias, you can't be getting

443
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Speaker 4: like and I and I really hate that. How many

444
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Speaker 4: openly gay sports players do you know?

445
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Speaker 3: None?

446
00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:11,959
Speaker 4: We had one? Yeah, he kissed that man on that

447
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,880
Speaker 4: draft and guess what, they talked him. He never even

448
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Speaker 4: got in the game.

449
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Speaker 5: That was it. He got cut right after that.

450
00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,440
Speaker 4: He got drafted and then cucked because why did you

451
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Speaker 4: kiss that man on national TV? This was some years ago.

452
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Speaker 4: It's not Michael Michael Stam. I think Michael stand. It

453
00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,119
Speaker 4: was an NFL player. He was getting drafted into the

454
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Speaker 4: NFL and he thought that he was gonna kiss his partner,

455
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Speaker 4: you know, I guess yeah, he kiss of them all

456
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Speaker 4: like he was pretty much letting them know that he

457
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Speaker 4: was openly gay. But that's what I'm saying, Like I

458
00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,159
Speaker 4: know football players right now, like even basketball players. I

459
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:47,800
Speaker 4: was dealing with this basketball player. See that's why I

460
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:49,440
Speaker 4: told you in college that he shows. I was dealing

461
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,200
Speaker 4: with this basketball player and a football player. But basically

462
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Speaker 4: when the coach found out, they're on the jet and

463
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Speaker 4: they like, we heard that you mess around with this boy.

464
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Speaker 5: Da da da da da.

465
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Speaker 4: The men don't feel comfortable to into the locker room.

466
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,240
Speaker 4: They don't want you around them. So he had to

467
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Speaker 4: shower separately after everybody.

468
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Speaker 5: He couldn't.

469
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Speaker 4: They benched him, couldn't play anymore, and they pretty much

470
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Speaker 4: justisolated him until he eventually, you know.

471
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Speaker 5: Just call there to quit.

472
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Speaker 3: How did they find out.

473
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Speaker 4: Because basically the players saw me coming out. All of

474
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Speaker 4: the players lived like in this building, and they saw

475
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Speaker 4: me coming out of his even though you can't you

476
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Speaker 4: can't asston, but you see what I'm saying, Like that

477
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Speaker 4: he couldn't even be saw with a gay man.

478
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Speaker 5: Wow, they saw me coming out.

479
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Speaker 4: Of his place, and they just assumed that we weren't

480
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Speaker 4: even being essentially at the but he did want a house,

481
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Speaker 4: but it didn't happen. That was my whole point, like

482
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Speaker 4: just even I'm seeing me just put all of that

483
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Speaker 4: into motion.

484
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Speaker 3: So it happened to his career. It just got that

485
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Speaker 3: was it?

486
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Speaker 5: That was it?

487
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Speaker 4: Like maybe he was he never played again. I told you, like, well,

488
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Speaker 4: but then he blamed me after that that that could happen,

489
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 4: like you kept wanting me to come and I'm like,

490
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Speaker 4: if somebody see me, but in his hand and impulsive.

491
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Speaker 5: Right.

492
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Speaker 4: He was from New York, so he wasn't even necessarily

493
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Speaker 4: thinking that how people in Atlanta think about everything, like

494
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Speaker 4: because there is going to be gay already, so they're

495
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 4: they're looking out for it and they're so let's always

496
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Speaker 4: tell people like I understand that aspect that in certain

497
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Speaker 4: careers you can't be openly gay.

498
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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So what are some of the things download

499
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Speaker 2: men often want in the bedroom that should raise red

500
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Speaker 2: flags with women?

501
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Speaker 4: So anytime a man is wanting anything, ain't no, ain't

502
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Speaker 4: any backshots.

503
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Speaker 5: I always tell women a download man.

504
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Speaker 4: Okay. So I just made a video about this too.

505
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Speaker 4: Top verse bottom, Top is the giver the verses. In

506
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Speaker 4: the middle, he gives and receives. In the bottom is

507
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Speaker 4: the taker. I would be considered a bottom. I led

508
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Speaker 4: a bunch of tops. I will say this, it's not

509
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Speaker 4: too many full tops. The full top is the man

510
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Speaker 4: that never gets any penetration. I've topped a lot of

511
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Speaker 4: full tops, so it's not a lot of full tops

512
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Speaker 4: out here. What I say is that aintal tops love

513
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Speaker 4: backshots infallatio.

514
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Speaker 5: That's gonna be the go to. They're not gonna be

515
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Speaker 5: able to get hard.

516
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Speaker 4: It's not gonna if they're not hitting you from the

517
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Speaker 4: back or you're not giving them head, that's all they're

518
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Speaker 4: gonna want. Sometimes they're gonna want your back door, and

519
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Speaker 4: they're gonna be upset if you don't give it to them.

520
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Speaker 5: But don't.

521
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Speaker 4: If your man is a bottom, he's gonna want you

522
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Speaker 4: to always plan his back door. You're gonna be putting

523
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Speaker 4: bullets in it. You're gonna be you probably will have

524
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Speaker 4: to put a strap on. Always tell women when he

525
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Speaker 4: asks you to get this strap, that's it should be around.

526
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Speaker 5: That should be enough sign for you.

527
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Speaker 4: That because I always tell women like you know how

528
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Speaker 4: that's still a cone?

529
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Speaker 5: Feel do you want that or do you want a

530
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Speaker 5: real thing?

531
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Speaker 2: Right?

532
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Speaker 4: So, you need to be asking your stulf why you

533
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Speaker 4: keep putting this there's still a cone in him? Is

534
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Speaker 4: he gonna want to feel the real thing because he

535
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Speaker 4: has one feel, So you get what I'm saying. I'm

536
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Speaker 4: gonna want the real things. So like I always tell women,

537
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Speaker 4: ain't a straight man, And how you really figure out

538
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Speaker 4: if they's are really d l is because they're gonna

539
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 4: try to put it in your heads on it because

540
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Speaker 4: they already know that women are on the lookout for

541
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Speaker 4: that type of stuff.

542
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 5: They're gonna test the water. So they're not.

543
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Speaker 4: Gonna tell you like I want to do an They're

544
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 4: gonna ask you stuff and kind of put stuff out

545
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 4: there to make you think you want to do it.

546
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 5: You can ask them.

547
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 4: And when you ask them, they're gonna say no, that's gay.

548
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 4: Then they're gonna get drunk and then they're gonna want

549
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,239
Speaker 4: to do that anal stuff. And that's gonna show you

550
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Speaker 4: right there that aid their liars. And b they probably

551
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 4: already do it. Because when a lot of women be like,

552
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Speaker 4: what if I introduce it, you will If I want

553
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Speaker 4: women to know this, you will never be introducing a

554
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Speaker 4: man to probably much of nothing.

555
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Speaker 3: Nothing. He already did it.

556
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Speaker 4: If he's planning you to make you think that you

557
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Speaker 4: know he have I've never done it. So you can

558
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Speaker 4: then want to be the first one and feel special.

559
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Speaker 5: Don't mess with like, do you know how many niggas

560
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Speaker 5: I hear, Oh you're the first gay? Do what I

561
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Speaker 5: ever messed with? That used to be cute.

562
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Speaker 4: Until I realized, like, that's such a that's an easy

563
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 4: manipulation tactic. I was like, I was a little naive

564
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Speaker 4: because come on, the first, but you'd be.

565
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Speaker 3: One of to believe certain sh it's so bad a.

566
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Speaker 4: Nigga that's been out here fucking all at this time,

567
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Speaker 4: I ain't about to be there. That's why I say

568
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Speaker 4: I had to realize who niggas actually were. M M

569
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Speaker 4: because I feel like that's who are a lot of

570
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 4: women messed up? They don't really know men because maybe

571
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Speaker 4: they don't have enough men around or they didn't like

572
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 4: always tell women you probably not a lot of women

573
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Speaker 4: either don't have brothers or their dad wasn't that active.

574
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Speaker 4: But you gotta have some men somewhere so you can

575
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Speaker 4: know more about men. Because a lot of women, when

576
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Speaker 4: I hear them talking about men, it's just like you're

577
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Speaker 4: completely off the money. Yeah, I mean like they don't

578
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Speaker 4: know men, even like with thinking old men. Like these

579
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Speaker 4: type of women or distance. It'd be like, Mmm, did

580
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Speaker 4: a man tell you that? Or you just assume that

581
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Speaker 4: because I'm like, women think about things from their perspective,

582
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Speaker 4: but you kind of have to be a man. That's

583
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 4: always till women. I don't try to think for women.

584
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 4: That's always ask women before I think or before I

585
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 4: make an assumption. I'll because I'm not a woman, so

586
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 4: I can't think for y'all. But I know about men

587
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Speaker 4: because I'm a man.

588
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, why do you think so mean download men

589
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Speaker 2: have children with multiple women?

590
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Speaker 3: Because that's what I don't like.

591
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 4: So a lot of that comes from for starters, they

592
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 4: think that they are invincible. They can't catch STDs, they're

593
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 4: not gonna use condoms, so it's a lot of condomalistics.

594
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Speaker 4: It's a lot of sex in general. So of course,

595
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Speaker 4: if you're having unprotected sex with a whole bunch of people,

596
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Speaker 4: it's gonna be able to produce babies, and a lot

597
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 4: of them want kids, so a lot of them will

598
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Speaker 4: try women.

599
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Speaker 5: Like I always tell women, if.

600
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Speaker 4: You get the fact, you gotta be prepared that if

601
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Speaker 4: he see that you on your ship, or even that

602
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Speaker 4: you on the way to being on your ship, he

603
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Speaker 4: might try to trap you with a baby, because they

604
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Speaker 4: look at that as this is somebody I can rely on,

605
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Speaker 4: like if all else feels I got my baby, mamas

606
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Speaker 4: and right like man though, it's really like a combination

607
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Speaker 4: of tactics, Like some men literally just want that.

608
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Speaker 5: Some men it's because they're DL and they think having

609
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Speaker 5: kids like.

610
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Speaker 4: So the fact basically all of those are not good

611
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Speaker 4: reasons though to have a kid with a woman, like

612
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Speaker 4: because they don't actually be wanting to partake in what

613
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Speaker 4: it actually means to have a kid. That's why when

614
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Speaker 4: you're going through that post hard them when you speak

615
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Speaker 4: the prive and you're going you have to think about

616
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Speaker 4: all of this before you have a kid, because these

617
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Speaker 4: DM men that can't give you an emotional connection, they're

618
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Speaker 4: not gonna be emotionally connected to that kid. So they're

619
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Speaker 4: not going to give a fuck that you're stressed and

620
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Speaker 4: you're tired, just like they're not gonna care about their

621
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Speaker 4: kid enough to help you out. So then that's gonna

622
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Speaker 4: put even more mental anguish on you. It's gonna be

623
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Speaker 4: a snowball because some of them also want to see

624
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Speaker 4: women doing bad, so they feel like, like I always

625
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Speaker 4: tell women when you have a kid, your life is

626
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Speaker 4: going to change. It's gonna be a lot harder to progress.

627
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Speaker 4: You're gonna have to work even more. So a lot

628
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 4: of these men know that and they want you to

629
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Speaker 4: have to have to work hardst So they're like, ooh,

630
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Speaker 4: let me do this.

631
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Speaker 2: Yes, you play chess cause new bitches. That's why I

632
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Speaker 2: take my I'm taking my time, yo. I literally teld

633
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Speaker 2: my homegirl, I'm like, yo, I can't wait to see

634
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 2: what they're gonna get baby out of me because I

635
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 2: want I definitely want children. But I'm just like, it's

636
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Speaker 2: scary out.

637
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Speaker 4: Here, especially for women because y'all. They're not being honest

638
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Speaker 4: with y'all. That's the part that I hate because if

639
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Speaker 4: they would just be honest. Now, I do tho song

640
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Speaker 4: discreet men or closited men that will be honest with women.

641
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Speaker 4: But a lot of them know that women are not

642
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Speaker 4: going to take the risk, like did you not hit

643
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Speaker 4: their numbers, They're five times more likely to catch HIV,

644
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 4: seventy nine percent more likely to catch STIs if they

645
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 4: deal with men that sleep with men and women. So

646
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Speaker 4: they know a lot of women aren't gonna do it,

647
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Speaker 4: so they would rather take their consent.

648
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Speaker 5: Essentially, and assault people.

649
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think also, it's not that you're being gay,

650
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 2: it's that you're not being honest.

651
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 5: Thank you, and it's that you're being gay.

652
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Speaker 3: I mean I think I mean also gay because.

653
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Speaker 2: But you know what I'm saying, like gay is everybody's gay,

654
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Speaker 2: like it's twenty twenty five. But it's like, be honest

655
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Speaker 2: with me, like, do not force my hand with this,

656
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 2: because you don't know if I'm into that or not?

657
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 4: Right, And I feel like, like I always tell men

658
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 4: it's different body parts like you because somebody enough that

659
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Speaker 4: they'll stick it.

660
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Speaker 3: In the man and they come home to fuck you.

661
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Speaker 4: Right, not even no shower, not even they just have

662
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Speaker 4: some baby whites and white dolls exactly exactly. But I

663
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 4: was telling a lot of men like they don't realize

664
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Speaker 4: that even with STDs, I'm like, women only catch STDs

665
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 4: for men. And I know that sound controversial, but if

666
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 4: it's women and women transmission is not that it's men

667
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 4: that are giving women STDs. So let's always say women

668
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 4: have to be extra careful because not only can you

669
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Speaker 4: have a kid, you can catch these STIs, these these

670
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Speaker 4: things that you can't get rid of. So it's way

671
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 4: more risky for women.

672
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Speaker 2: Yeah, why is it so important for women to not

673
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Speaker 2: confront and download men because that's something that you strongly advise.

674
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Speaker 4: Yes, So it's important for women not taking from download

675
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Speaker 4: man because they are going to get violent inaggression.

676
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Speaker 5: Aggressive Like essentially.

677
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 4: Just like my life almost got taken, a woman would

678
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 4: be more susceptible to her life being taken, like I

679
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 4: had physically fights for my life. A lot of women

680
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 4: get physically beat up men, and they're not going to

681
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 4: be able to take on a man. So you're going

682
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 4: to confront a man with the biggest secret of his life.

683
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 3: He's gonna protect that secret, baby protected.

684
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 5: And a lot of them look at it.

685
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 4: The only way I can say it is if you

686
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 4: can't talk, especially I say like with say not to

687
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 4: say his name, but with the boy he was, it

688
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 4: was more so like, well.

689
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 5: You know the secret, so it's gonna know it.

690
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 4: I'm always I can't let you walk around knowing that

691
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 4: you know my secret. And it's that like I try

692
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 4: to get people to realize, like we look at sexuality

693
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,239
Speaker 4: is such a meniscal thing, but it's that serious to

694
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 4: them that they will kill people and just go to

695
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 4: jail for the rest of their life.

696
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 2: And it's been so many cases a women losing their

697
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 2: lives to these men.

698
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 5: Yes, and I don't think it's promoted enough though.

699
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Speaker 4: I was like, oh, we don't see that it was

700
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 4: because with secretly gay, we just woman got killed by man.

701
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 4: I'm like a lot of the time it be dl

702
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 4: men killing these women. There were dudes or people. They're

703
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 4: just not reporting that. My god, Yeah, they're going to

704
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 4: a rage because, like I always tell women, like when

705
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 4: you start bringing it up to them, it's like all

706
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 4: of the thoughts that they bury, some of some and

707
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 4: some of it I feel like goes all the.

708
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 5: Way back to maybeighborhood.

709
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Speaker 4: Yeah, because like I always say, like that is a

710
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 4: big thing, especially in the black community, Like that's the

711
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 4: big thing. So you start bringing up all of these

712
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 4: things and it's like they're already fucking demented.

713
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Speaker 5: And yeah crazy.

714
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 4: So now you have this uncontrollable person with all of

715
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 4: these thoughts that they need help controlling, like they need

716
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 4: a therapist, but that's they're not going to ever do

717
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 4: for the most part.

718
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,479
Speaker 5: So now they're going to take it out on you.

719
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 5: And I always tell women they usually take it out

720
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 5: on women and not men. Of course not because it's easier.

721
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 4: They know like a woman, you know, like I said,

722
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 4: when I did eventually start fighting him, like boom boom

723
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 4: boom boom boom, like black and Blue, like he was

724
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 4: beat the fuck like when I tell you, to the

725
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 4: point that they didn't even take no mod s out

726
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 4: of him.

727
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Speaker 5: So that's all I was like, that's not going to

728
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 5: be the case for most women. You're not gonna be

729
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 5: the man black and Blue.

730
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 4: So don't go out there confronting these men because you're

731
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 4: essentially saying, hey, take my life. I know that that

732
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 4: sounds harsh, but literally, they're gonna try to take your

733
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 4: life to keep a secret because again, it's so big

734
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 4: to them, because think about it, it seems so like,

735
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 4: really take somebody life over something like this. But it's like, yes,

736
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 4: they will take somebody's life over something like this, and

737
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 4: a lot of women just think that, like really like.

738
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, but if a woman is in a situation

739
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 2: where she feels compelled to confront him, what advice.

740
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 3: Would you give her?

741
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 4: So, like I always told him, if you do have

742
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 4: to confront a man about anything, make sure you're in

743
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 4: a public space. Make sure people know that you're gonna

744
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 4: do this. Like I always say, like if I and

745
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 4: my women friends had to do this, I'm gonna be there.

746
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 4: I'm probably gonna be the one that related information. So

747
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 4: make sure you have support, especially from a man, because

748
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 4: this is the man. And anytime, like my female friends,

749
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 4: they're a boyfriends and stuff might get aggressable with them,

750
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 4: But then I get on the phone and now he

751
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 4: got sense. I come in person. Now he got some sense.

752
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 4: So if you have man, make sure you got a

753
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 4: little reinforcement, preferably a man. Do it in a public place.

754
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 4: But like always tell him if you have to confront him,

755
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 4: that means that you probably know. So instead of confronting him,

756
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 4: get an exit, playing together because most of the yell man,

757
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 4: they're gonna be relying on you anyways, so you don't

758
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 4: need to let them know what you know, because then

759
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 4: that's when the baby started coming into play, when they

760
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 4: started feeling like you're trying to leave.

761
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 5: That's why you gotta know what they're doing and just leave. Yeah,

762
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 5: try to stop you.

763
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 4: Then they're gonna convince you, oh, I'm not dl you

764
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 4: want to go through my phone. Now they're going to

765
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 4: be on the straight and arrow, not doing nothing like

766
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 4: I always tell you they cannot act on urges. Yeah,

767
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 4: and then a woman eight months later, Way, he ain't

768
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 4: done nothing in eight months now.

769
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Speaker 5: He rapped back on.

770
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Speaker 2: It because you probably worse how he started.

771
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Speaker 4: Right, So let's I always say, like, that's the biggest

772
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 4: thing I would say, not to confront them, but if

773
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 4: you have to, just do it and don't be confrontational.

774
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 4: Like I always tell people in therapy something that I

775
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 4: learned ice statements like I never tell people what they feel.

776
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 4: I always speak from a place stuff. This is how

777
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Speaker 4: I feel, this is what you've done, this is how

778
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 4: I feel like, not putting anything like you tell me

779
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 4: how you feel. I'm just telling you how I feel

780
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 4: because I feel like that does work better without making

781
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 4: people feel like you're accused in them of anything. Because

782
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 4: of course people get defensive. That's the natural reaction. You

783
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,479
Speaker 4: feel accused of something, you're gonna get defense. The people

784
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 4: are onto your secret, you're gonna get.

785
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 5: Aggressed to it.

786
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

787
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, how many women have came to you and just

788
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 2: said thank you for saving me?

789
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 5: So many I can't even go how does.

790
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 3: That make you feel? Because I love that.

791
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Speaker 4: That's because I'm just like, it's working like it helps.

792
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 4: It helps because I always thought like what if it

793
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 4: doesn't help? Because the first time I ever tried to

794
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 4: do this, I think where I messed up. I was

795
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 4: just exposed in men and and I realized, like me,

796
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 4: as those the men that I dealt with, isn't going

797
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 4: to help women because what you're dealing with that man,

798
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. So then I had to like start

799
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 4: thinking like how do I truly truly help? And giving

800
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Speaker 4: out the information is how I figure it would be

801
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 4: most helpful because I think it does help. Like I

802
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 4: get women from Australia, Norway, Canada, like all over the

803
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 4: globe that hit me up.

804
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 2: Wow. And why do you think so many women internalize

805
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 2: that it's their fault because the man's actions.

806
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 4: Because a lot of women think that they can change

807
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 4: men and they feel like well, and it comes to

808
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 4: a little narciss system with them too, because they feel like, well,

809
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 4: I'm so great that he should have changed for me.

810
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 4: And that's always said to me. It wasn't in you.

811
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,439
Speaker 4: You weren't the reason why he was deal. You weren't

812
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 4: the reason why X, Y and Z. So it was

813
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 4: nothing that you get bigger than you. So I think

814
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 4: a lot of people internalize it because they be with

815
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 4: these men and they feel like, well, a lot of

816
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 4: men DM men are going to break you down and

817
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 4: make you think that you should have done something differently.

818
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 4: That's because, like I always tell him, and they want

819
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 4: you to feel like at all times that you need

820
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 4: to do better to be right for them. Yea, that

821
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 4: treatment going where you're always doing going over the extra

822
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 4: mile to make sure, oh he loves me, or you know,

823
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 4: you're doing too much and he's not even reciprocating it.

824
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 2: Now, are there certain types of women who tend to

825
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 2: attract download men?

826
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 3: And if so, who are that? Because this was some

827
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Speaker 3: tea right here, baby.

828
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, So there are a couple of types of women

829
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 5: that attract.

830
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Speaker 3: Download man's smiling.

831
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 5: So the main one that.

832
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Speaker 4: I always talk about is the pic me, which is

833
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 4: the woman that the pic me shit, she's better than

834
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 4: every other woman, and he's gonna pick her because she

835
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 4: has this and that and you know, she's just so great.

836
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 4: And you know, women that's always go straight for the

837
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 4: pick me because to me, that that's the easiest to

838
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 4: distinguish because you start getting into like the women that

839
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 4: are going to be ride or die, That feel like

840
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 4: I gotta stand by this man no matter what those women,

841
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 4: like I said on our video, they usually end up

842
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 4: going through the most because they're trying to stand by

843
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 4: a man that is never going to change, and just

844
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 4: because they don't want people to have a perception, which

845
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 4: is a lot of women, because if a man is

846
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 4: doing you wrong, leave him. Why are you being right

847
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 4: or out like for somebody that's doing you wrong?

848
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 3: Right?

849
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 4: You have the Christian woman, let's talk about the Christian

850
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 4: women because a lot of Christian women, what they don't

851
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 4: realize is that a man will use your spirituality, your

852
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 4: belief in God or whatever you believe in against you.

853
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 4: He'll see them into that heavily, and he'll just act

854
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 4: like he's into it. Because again, women don't. I don't

855
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,919
Speaker 4: think women pay attention because if a man is telling

856
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 4: you that he's spiritual and all of this, but his

857
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 4: actions show you otherwise, you should know that he's blind.

858
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 4: A lot of women don't realize, like a lot of

859
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 4: dl men live in the church too, like they're in

860
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 4: that's going to be a place there for sure gonna

861
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,479
Speaker 4: be deal is it? So it's different types of women,

862
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 4: But any woman that's not sure for So that's what

863
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 4: I always say, Like, the biggest thing is if you're

864
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 4: attracting d ol Man is because you're like, so you

865
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 4: need to be sure of your stuff. You need to

866
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 4: have confidence, you need to know who you are and

867
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 4: not let a man define who you are. And I

868
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 4: think that'd be the biggest problem, like all of the

869
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 4: what those women have in common is they let men

870
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 4: define them.

871
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 5: Yeah.

872
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I.

873
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 4: Always say a man needs a woman to be complete.

874
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 4: Women don't really need men to be complete. Yeah, women

875
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 4: have to like it's way more power in a woman

876
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 4: being a woman than a man.

877
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 5: Like men aren't really I mean, yeah, think about it.

878
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 4: Most women really only use men for sincks that we

879
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 4: really gonna get technical. Yeah, the women be dll they

880
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 4: just don't want to be with a woman out right.

881
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883
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Speaker 2: Listen to my next question, which I was like, I

884
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Speaker 2: I never heard this term before, because.

885
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Speaker 3: You also talk about download women.

886
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Speaker 4: Yes, because that's something that we had to talk about because,

887
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888
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890
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891
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892
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893
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895
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896
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897
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Speaker 4: I have to talk about download women too, because I

898
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Speaker 4: have to get women to understand, like when you do

899
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900
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902
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903
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Speaker 5: I was like, men literally do that.

904
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

905
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906
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907
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908
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909
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Speaker 5: I only talk about it because people ask.

910
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911
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912
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913
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914
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Speaker 4: as men. So I try not to focus on women

915
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916
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917
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Speaker 4: what I see, from what I know, they're not hurting nobody.

918
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Speaker 4: Because if down you weren't hurting anybody, like people would

919
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Speaker 4: need to know. But of course I always do tell women. Now,

920
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Speaker 4: some men might not want to be with a woman

921
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Speaker 4: that's by sexual Yeah, so you are taking that away

922
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Speaker 4: because some I feel like if a's straight man, he

923
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924
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925
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Speaker 3: I feel like a straight man only wants this woman

926
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Speaker 3: for himself.

927
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Speaker 5: Thank you. So that's all I was like, It's.

928
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Speaker 2: Like he not into no three, not into none of

929
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Speaker 2: that shit, Like, girl, you gotta take this that and

930
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Speaker 2: and be happy, and he's.

931
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 5: Gonna appreciate and build up the woman that he loves.

932
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 4: Let's always tell women like you don't think it's backwards,

933
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Speaker 4: like why would a man get what you? Women want

934
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935
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936
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937
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938
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Speaker 4: He doesn't like you, and a lot of people don't

939
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 4: recognize that. Like, and I can always say, if a

940
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Speaker 4: man doesn't like you, it's probably not because of something

941
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942
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943
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yo, we're almost finished. But I just thought

944
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Speaker 3: about this.

945
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946
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947
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948
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949
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,880
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950
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Speaker 4: will probably be a woman that's okay with her man.

951
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 5: Being by anyways.

952
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 4: But I think to me, I would if I if a.

953
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Speaker 5: Woman has to prefer, that's essentially your.

954
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Speaker 4: Man letting you know that he's into man and that

955
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Speaker 4: you're okay, and you know, it's kind of tricky. I

956
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Speaker 4: don't because I mean, is he down low? If the

957
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Speaker 4: woman knows, I feel like that's closetive. That's the way

958
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959
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 4: always feel down a man, the only person that truly

960
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 4: needs to know what you're doing is the woman that

961
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,880
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962
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 4: I don't have no announcements coming out of the closet.

963
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964
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965
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966
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Speaker 4: these things, right, But if.

967
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968
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969
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Speaker 4: His thing, okay, well, as long as he's not talking

970
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971
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972
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973
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974
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975
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976
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977
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978
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979
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980
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981
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982
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983
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984
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985
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988
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989
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990
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991
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992
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997
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998
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999
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1002
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1003
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1004
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1005
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1007
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1008
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1009
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1010
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1011
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1012
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1013
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1014
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1015
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1016
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Speaker 5: It's normal.

1017
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1018
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1019
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1020
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1021
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1022
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1023
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1024
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1025
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1026
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1027
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Speaker 4: going to be always conventionally attractive, I know, but you.

1028
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Speaker 5: Can work on that.

1029
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,439
Speaker 4: That's why I say I always tell women though, if

1030
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1031
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Speaker 4: how you feel you are, you should be able to

1032
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1033
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Speaker 5: Level, not do you? I would want to say, do

1034
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Speaker 5: you want to do that?

1035
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 4: I would lead and except something because I do think

1036
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Speaker 4: a lot of women get tricked by d O men

1037
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Speaker 4: because they go by looks. They love the aesthetics, they

1038
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Speaker 4: love the lots good every time. You're gonna get done

1039
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1040
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Speaker 4: because just like them, the best looking men know that

1041
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1042
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1043
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1044
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 4: end up talking to men for attention and because they

1045
00:45:55,640 --> 00:46:00,439
Speaker 4: can get men yeah, and they necessarily get that many

1046
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1047
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1048
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1049
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 4: why I say it all. It could start a lot

1050
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 4: of different places. But ultimately.

1051
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 5: A lot of these men are gay, sadly, and I

1052
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1053
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1054
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1055
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1056
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1057
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1058
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1059
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Speaker 5: just ghost them because I'm telling you, men are easily manipulated,

1060
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 5: like they're always manipulating. But you gotta be you gotta

1061
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:44,719
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1062
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 4: That's why a lot of them don't tell women, because

1063
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 4: a woman will tell them up front, I don't want

1064
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 4: to be with a man that sends the men noble

1065
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Speaker 4: like you love that, like I got gay friends. I

1066
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:59,520
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1067
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Speaker 4: They're gonna be Oh, she's cool with it whole time.

1068
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Speaker 4: Just keep eating each your food on the day. Once

1069
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1070
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Speaker 4: like men cool, you know in your head one day

1071
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Speaker 4: than done.

1072
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 3: Listen scripture this confuse our enemy, child, because that's.

1073
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Speaker 4: What they're gonna do to you, like if you say

1074
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Speaker 4: especially because most women up front tell men they don't

1075
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Speaker 4: want to be a men that are into men too,

1076
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Speaker 4: like they want to be with straight men. And I'm like,

1077
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Speaker 4: that's the last thing you should say, because now he

1078
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Speaker 4: knows that you're gonna take him off the list of

1079
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 4: possibilities if he tells you the truth. So now he's

1080
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 4: gonna definitely lie. Whereas it why didn't manipulate him just

1081
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 4: a little bit? Because it's bad, but I mean I

1082
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 4: don't think it hurts somebody.

1083
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially in the beginning because I'm up again, it's like, shit,

1084
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 2: thank you.

1085
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 5: So let's always tell the men.

1086
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 4: Just know that men are gonna be manipulating you just

1087
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Speaker 4: just a little, like don't lie about everything or you know,

1088
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Speaker 4: but that that's a simple white lie. Yeah, I like

1089
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Speaker 4: bisexual men, got no problem with it. Like I just

1090
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Speaker 4: got dumped by one, so I'm looking for my nick

1091
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Speaker 4: by pictual.

1092
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 3: Man, right right.

1093
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Speaker 5: I get so much.

1094
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Speaker 4: Stuff out of man from doing little stuff like that, because,

1095
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Speaker 4: like I say, men are so easy and people think

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Speaker 4: they're so complicated. It's literally like reverse psychology with most men,

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Speaker 4: Like that's how they operate too, and you know how

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Speaker 4: when you're growing up, that's how men are. Just always

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Speaker 4: say men are easy. They don't change. Women just think

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Speaker 4: they're so complicated. Like, nobude, it's that tricky that you're

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Speaker 4: into by men. He gonna feel comfortable not realizing that

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Speaker 4: you're lying, and he's gonna tell you and then you

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Speaker 4: goostone period, he's gonna go on for the next. For men,

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Speaker 4: like I always tell the men, some women are gonna

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Speaker 4: be okay with you being by move on.

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Speaker 5: If a woman's not okay with it.

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Speaker 4: If you that like you are, I'm like, if you

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Speaker 4: that nigga, anyways, you should be able to tell a

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Speaker 4: woman if she don't.

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Speaker 5: Give a fuck.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, But these niggas know they're not that nigga, and

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Speaker 4: they gotta lie and manipulate and they should be put

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Speaker 4: in jail for ship like that. But they ain't gonna

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Speaker 4: do that because it's gonna be too many niggas locked up.

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Speaker 2: Now this was a treat. I'm pretty sure they gonna

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Speaker 2: want you to come back on. Like, I'm so happy

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Speaker 2: that I found you and we connected because I really

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Speaker 2: do think that you are helping so many people and

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Speaker 2: not just women, but also encouraging men to live out

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Speaker 2: in their truth. So I really appreciate you so place

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Speaker 2: and everybody where we can connect with you and support you.

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Speaker 2: Because he is as sessions, he does power posch.

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Speaker 4: Chown wellwything right. They want me to do a master class.

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Speaker 4: But so I am on every platform as the Doo Whisper.

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Speaker 4: So right now my TikTok is banned, but I'm everywhere

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Speaker 4: else Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, X deal whisper on every platform.

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Speaker 4: And I do appreciate you for giving me this opportunity

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Speaker 4: because this was a good conversation. Like you see, I

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Speaker 4: know it's so slower, but I like, I love conversations

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Speaker 4: like they felt like we were just on the phone.

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Speaker 2: I told you, I said, well, it's gonna feel like

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Speaker 2: we've been doing this for a thousand years. But I

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Speaker 2: really like, I am a fan of your work and

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Speaker 2: I'm so happy that we were able to do this

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Speaker 2: because this was so good, like super informative.

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Speaker 3: I know the professional homegirls are gonna love this.

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Speaker 2: So I really appreciate you for allowing me to be

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Speaker 2: a part of your journey and.

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Speaker 5: Thank you for allowing me to come on and you know,

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Speaker 5: have this conversation with you.

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Speaker 2: It through of course, and to listeners if you have

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Speaker 2: any questions of comments of concerns, I want to say,

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Speaker 2: hey girl, hey, please make sure to email me at

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Speaker 2: hello at the pahgpodcast dot com. Oh well, you know what,

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Speaker 2: I gotta update that because you know, now we rename

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Speaker 2: the shows Pretty Private, So y'all get that later, but

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Speaker 2: until next time. Everyone later, Yes, it was great. Pretty

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Speaker 2: Private is a production of the Black Effect podcast Network.

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