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Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality with the King.

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Speaker 2: It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and

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Speaker 2: one of the most sought after executive producers in reality

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Speaker 2: television with over ten years a production experience. So today's

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Speaker 2: topic is exploring conversations that I've been seeing on social

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Speaker 2: media as relates to the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills,

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Speaker 2: between Erica Jane telling Garsell's son to get the fuck

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Speaker 2: out of here, to Lisa Renna's problematic tweets to the

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Speaker 2: ultimate gas lighting that I've been seeing. On this episode,

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Speaker 2: I wanted to dedicate this episode to a larger conversation

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Speaker 2: about the state of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills

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Speaker 2: and Garcel being a part of this franchise. So I

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Speaker 2: knew I could not do this alone, so I wanted

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Speaker 2: to bring on someone who has an experience being a

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Speaker 2: reality star. But she's also a Haitian American, like Garcel,

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Speaker 2: a black woman. She has a very interesting take about

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Speaker 2: what she's been seeing in these past couple of episodes

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Speaker 2: as it relates to Garcel and the rest of the

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Speaker 2: Real Housewives of Beverly Hills cast. Her name is Jesse

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Speaker 2: Woo and she is super hilarious. She's super honest and

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Speaker 2: super insightful. This is probably the most end up conversation

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Speaker 2: that I've had on the podcast since Ebidy k Williams,

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Speaker 2: where we do talk about very sensitive subjects. But my

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Speaker 2: hope is that when you listen to this, you can

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Speaker 2: walk away with the greater understanding of the reason why this.

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Speaker 1: Was important to me and hopefully to you.

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Speaker 2: We know that Garsell was cast on the show because

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Speaker 2: obviously she represents being a black woman in Hollywood. Yes,

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Speaker 2: being a black woman in the zip code of nine

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Speaker 2: to two one zero. And when Garsel came on the show,

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Speaker 2: I mean, listen, we were fans of her. She was

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Speaker 2: fancy on the Jimmy Fox Show. Garsel is an icon

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Speaker 2: in the black community, so we were all very happy

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Speaker 2: and thrilled when she was cast on the show.

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Speaker 1: And she literally fit in like a glove. Like it wasn't.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't like Ebany k Williams.

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Speaker 2: Who I felt was an odd ball because those weren't

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Speaker 2: her real friends, but Garcel.

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Speaker 1: Just felt in seamlessly.

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Speaker 2: What are you thinking right now of Garzil's presidence on

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Speaker 2: the Real Housewives of Belly Hills, Like.

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Speaker 3: You said, she's an icon in the black community, but

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Speaker 3: as a Haitian like she is like our your dead,

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Speaker 3: which means our star like she was. She's one of

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Speaker 3: the first to ever do what she did as a

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Speaker 3: Haitian coming to America with nothing and being able to

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Speaker 3: translate it into stardom like that's not something that a lot.

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Speaker 4: Of us Haitian see.

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Speaker 3: Now in my generation, we're seeing more of it, and

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Speaker 3: so seeing her in Beverly Hills especially was a big

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Speaker 3: deal because we know that it is a predominantly white franchise.

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Speaker 4: I think she's a class act now.

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Speaker 3: I do think this particular season, Garsela is working the girls,

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Speaker 3: Garsel is working my sys don't really have a storyline

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Speaker 3: like that. Her storyline is, let me go ahead and

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Speaker 3: let me get these things. Let me make y'all work

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Speaker 3: for y'all coin this season, because y'all ain't been working.

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Speaker 4: Let me make y'all work for y'all coin this season.

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Speaker 3: Let me drop a little salt, let me drop a

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Speaker 3: little peakles here and there, and let me spice things up,

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Speaker 3: let me.

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Speaker 4: Confront certain things.

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Speaker 3: And she has such a classy way of doing it

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Speaker 3: where you can't check her.

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Speaker 4: You're not gonna check her you know what I mean,

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Speaker 4: because she's being very honest.

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Speaker 3: She's respectful about it. So you have to address what

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Speaker 3: she says, which is great.

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Speaker 2: No, it's it's great. I agree with you. I've said

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Speaker 2: for the longest time. Kyle Richards is the uncredited executive

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Speaker 2: producer of Beverly Hills.

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Speaker 1: Kyle puts the girls to work. He sits back, she

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Speaker 1: watches them fight.

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Speaker 2: She'll give you a leg split, she'll give you a

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Speaker 2: good reaction shot, and she'll give you very much tears up.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, like, do you what do you mean

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Speaker 1: that happened? Right?

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Speaker 2: What's been interesting is Garcel Bubet this season I like

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Speaker 2: to call the co executive producer.

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Speaker 1: She is definitely.

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Speaker 2: Moving story forward, pushing story, making sure that the girls

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Speaker 2: are held accountable. She's defending something who A lot of

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Speaker 2: people think Sutton is a Karen. I don't think Sutton

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Speaker 2: is a Karen. I think someton is Catherine. Okay, so

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Speaker 2: a Catherine is a white woman.

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Speaker 1: Who comes from privilege.

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Speaker 2: She behaves in a way where everything's very sensitive to her.

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Speaker 2: I don't think she's a Karen though, So instead of

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Speaker 2: a Karen, I'll call her Catherine.

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Speaker 3: I can kind of see what you're saying with Sutton.

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Speaker 3: I think what I don't like about Sutton is, like

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Speaker 3: you said, she comes from a background of privilege, and

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Speaker 3: her strategy is, but I can relate to everything. I

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Speaker 3: can relate to everything. If you say something to her,

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Speaker 3: she's like, oh, but I too have experienced. Oh but

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Speaker 3: I too have seen, but I too, Like she's very

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Speaker 3: much I too, and it's like, bitch, you have not

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Speaker 3: experienced what the fuck.

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Speaker 4: I'm talking about? Like, get the entire hell out of here.

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Speaker 3: But she has a way of saying it too that

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Speaker 3: you're like, oh, you know what, Okay, fine girl, Like

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Speaker 3: I can't fight this lady, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: So now that's why to me, she's a great supervising producer.

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Speaker 1: So going back to.

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Speaker 2: Garcelle, because you was about to say something along the

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Speaker 2: lines of there's things that's happening with garcel this season

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Speaker 2: that you're not liking, So what are those things?

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Speaker 5: I just I really want to see garcel have a

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Speaker 5: little more smoke because I feel that her time on

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Speaker 5: the show, she again she keeps it very classy, and

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Speaker 5: I think that she does that because she does not

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Speaker 5: want the narrative of a mad angry black woman to

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Speaker 5: fall over her. But these white women have been tugging

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Speaker 5: at your slip for a minute now, especially Lisa Rena,

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Speaker 5: whose lips have been imported from the Motherland.

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Speaker 4: You got no rito over there too.

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Speaker 3: And then now you have Kyle like gaslighting you like

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Speaker 3: a motherfucker, like continuously.

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Speaker 4: I just feel like I want to see her have.

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Speaker 3: A little more smoked, just a little more smoke, because

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Speaker 3: if the shoe was on the other foot for these ladies,

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Speaker 3: these ladies.

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Speaker 4: Know how to get they white women cry on. They

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Speaker 4: know how to No, that's not what I meant and no,

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Speaker 4: oh my god, like they know.

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Speaker 3: So you you gotta find a way to get your

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Speaker 3: black women's tears flowing too.

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Speaker 1: With us.

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Speaker 3: The thing with us is we don't really cry unless

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Speaker 3: we want to beat somebody's ass. So we have to

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Speaker 3: find a way to tap into that, Like, what.

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Speaker 4: Is that thing?

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Speaker 3: Where is that space where black women can have their

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Speaker 3: black women's tears.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what that would look like for her.

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Speaker 3: Because there's been times when she's really been backed up

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Speaker 3: and they've been able to really like make her seem

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Speaker 3: with Garcella.

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Speaker 2: Now I have to agree with you on that because

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Speaker 2: remember last season, Yeah, Garcella had this very beautiful, vulnerable

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Speaker 2: moment when Garcel explained to her coworkers, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 2: call these women her friends. I don't think in real

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Speaker 2: life Garcila will ever hang with these women, So I'm

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Speaker 2: not gonna say her friends. I'll say her coworkers what

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Speaker 2: it was like as a black woman being the only

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Speaker 2: black woman in this white space. And she did it

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Speaker 2: in a way Jesse that I felt like she had

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Speaker 2: the tears, but it wasn't tears looking for sympathy. It

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Speaker 2: was tears struggling for them to understand what it's like

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Speaker 2: to be her. And I thought that was such a

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Speaker 2: powerful moment for her and for me.

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Speaker 1: I know what that feels like.

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Speaker 2: I'm was the first black male executive producer of the

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Speaker 2: Real Housewives, and when you are a black person in

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Speaker 2: a field of excellence, you are oftentimes the only in

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Speaker 2: the room. And I felt in that moment Garcel spoke

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Speaker 2: for her, but she also spoke for the likes of me,

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Speaker 2: and I think I can say she spoke for the

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Speaker 2: likes of you too. So going back to what you

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Speaker 2: were saying about her comfortability of owning herself in this space.

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Speaker 2: What do you think are the struggles Garcel was going

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Speaker 2: through Because, like you touched on before, she did say

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Speaker 2: that she did not want to be the angry black

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Speaker 2: be that. Because for my listeners, a'ma Rossa Manigault was

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Speaker 2: considered that for the longest time, Needy Lee Tiffany Pollard

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Speaker 2: was considered that for the longest time.

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Speaker 3: Like we've seen white women or white men come forward

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Speaker 3: and say certain things about where they work, what has happened,

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Speaker 3: and they don't get that same BackFlash even from their

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Speaker 3: own community. But here's the thing, right, is that I'm

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Speaker 3: at a point personally in my life where I'm not

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Speaker 3: going to be fighting for white people.

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Speaker 4: To understand.

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Speaker 3: What you will do is you will respect me though

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Speaker 3: you won't respect me. And when I come in as bitch,

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Speaker 3: there are certain things you will not say. There are

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Speaker 3: certain tones you will not use, there are certain jokes.

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Speaker 4: You will not express.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, and if you do those things,

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Speaker 3: the flow. I don't care like That's where I'm at

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Speaker 3: with it, because the thing is respectability politics is not working,

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Speaker 3: and I think that Garcel is trying to in her

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Speaker 3: own way play the respectability card kind of like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: as a black woman, this is what it is for

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Speaker 3: me as a black woman when you.

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Speaker 4: Say this, this is how it registers for me.

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Speaker 3: Right, how many times are we gonna tell these women

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Speaker 3: that these women do not care.

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Speaker 4: They do not care. They don't want to hear that.

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Speaker 3: They're so used to existing in their world and not

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Speaker 3: having to think about how they have to exist. They're

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Speaker 3: so they're so used to living in their world and

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Speaker 3: just being there, and what they say goes, now here

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Speaker 3: come your black ass.

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Speaker 1: Who barely You're barely.

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Speaker 3: In the area code. You're barely here, and now you

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Speaker 3: want to come tell me how.

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Speaker 4: To exist up in my sheep.

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Speaker 3: So that's why, like for me personally, when I sometimes

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Speaker 3: when I watch Garselves do this, it's like I understand,

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Speaker 3: I understand, but Sis, that is a fight I can

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Speaker 3: no longer fight. And especially as a Haitian American, we've

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Speaker 3: seen Garselves open up her door and give these white

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Speaker 3: people bunnon d d fuss what let get and zo

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Speaker 3: mo and grab mass and then you're gonna turn around

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Speaker 3: and you're gonna tell my son to get the fuck

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Speaker 3: out of here, and.

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Speaker 4: That just be the end of that. Oh no, oh no,

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Speaker 4: we're gonna it's gonna be eighteen oh four Part two

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Speaker 4: up in this bitch, That's what's gonna be.

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Speaker 1: Oh no.

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Speaker 2: But this is the reason why it was important for

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Speaker 2: me to talk about this conversation because to me, it's

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Speaker 2: easy to tap into what the scenes are, right, but

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Speaker 2: to me, I wanted to really talk about what's happening

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Speaker 2: on that show as it relates to garcell So you

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Speaker 2: brought up Erica Jane in.

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Speaker 1: One of the most recent episodes.

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Speaker 2: Ye telling Garcelles fourteen year old son to get the

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Speaker 2: if that was Charay, it would have been handled differently.

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Speaker 2: But again, Garcel doesn't represent all black people, and I

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Speaker 1: We do represent ourselves, but.

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Speaker 2: As a viewer, because we were raised by black women.

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Speaker 2: We know that oftentimes black mothers will go in if

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Speaker 3: Garcel, even though Garcella has held her feet to the fire,

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Speaker 3: Garcella has still shown her a lot of compassion. She

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Speaker 3: drunk or not, drunk or not, those words should have

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Speaker 4: That shit was racist as hell. It was racist.

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Speaker 3: First of all, there was a comment that several of

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Speaker 3: them kept saying about Garcill's son. Oh, they're so well behaved,

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Speaker 3: They're so respectful, they're so well behaved.

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Speaker 4: Mitch, what are we talking about here, adug.

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Speaker 2: Erica said to Garcil before I yelled at her son.

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Speaker 2: I complimented them and was saying, how well spoken they are.

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Speaker 4: Why is that what you're pointing out.

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Speaker 3: I've never heard any of them say that about anybody

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Speaker 3: I've never heard that they're so well behaved. Never heard that,

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Speaker 3: Never heard that, So why are you saying that about

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Speaker 3: whole you know, to get the f out of here.

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Speaker 4: I have never seen any of them.

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Speaker 3: Remotely speak that way to any of their children on

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Speaker 4: Eating disorders with something like that. I think, like with

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Speaker 3: Yes, but that was like there was a conversation about that,

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Speaker 3: so that was brought up.

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Speaker 4: But this little boy is literally coming to get flowers.

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Speaker 4: It made absolutely no sense.

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Speaker 3: And then you see Dorito, even Dorito, even her try.

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Speaker 4: She's trying to tell Erica, girl, what's going on? Girl,

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Speaker 4: that's HER's sun. The baby came to get his flowers

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Speaker 4: like no, no, no, no, no no no no no no no.

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Speaker 4: That was racist. Fast forward. Then you had that scene

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Speaker 3: And Dorito and their husbands where they're talking about it

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Speaker 3: and Kyle said, so did you hear about Erica saying

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Speaker 4: And she left like she thought it was funny.

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Speaker 3: She went on to say, you know, it's nice to

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Speaker 3: letting her hair down. This is your definition of letting

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Speaker 4: And then you see the men join in and say, yeah, yes,

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Speaker 4: I mean she's old. She's old.

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Speaker 3: A moment like that, you know she's been going through

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Speaker 3: a lot. What exactly is she going through? And why

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Speaker 3: are you guys okaying that?

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Speaker 4: When I saw that moment, it made me.

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Speaker 3: Go back to the whole Crystal thing where Crystal said that,

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Speaker 3: Suton said more in that conversation, and it was so

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Speaker 3: easy for everybody to be like, no, she's lying, and

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Speaker 3: Kyle's like, no, she didn't say anything else.

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Speaker 4: Well else did she say? Now I'm looking.

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Speaker 3: At you, Kyle like nah, I think someton might have

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Speaker 3: said something else, because you don't register. Because the compass

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Speaker 3: that you use for things that are offensive, I can't

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Speaker 3: trust it.

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Speaker 2: So what you're saying is because Kyle swept Erica's disrespect

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Speaker 2: can say to you guys, is that's not the first

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Speaker 2: friends with people in this business. What I can say

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Speaker 2: to you, guys, here's an exclusive. I've been told allegedly

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Speaker 2: that Erica Jane acts like that all the time, not

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Speaker 2: maybe to someone's son, but to the producers. I've heard

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Speaker 2: that Erica Jane is not the nicest when it comes

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Speaker 2: to her treatment of the crew. And what's interesting is,

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Speaker 2: going back to what you were saying, Jesse about Kyle's behavior.

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Speaker 2: I was so disturbed by Kyle's behavior in these past

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Speaker 2: two episodes. Why are you over compensating so much for

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Speaker 2: something that is truly awful, Like if someone spoke that

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Speaker 2: Richards freaked out because y'all were talking about sex around

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Speaker 2: her children. For Kyle to low key defend the behavior

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Speaker 2: and what you said is so interesting. She also kept

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Speaker 2: trying to defend Chrystal. Kyle deafinly was trying to make

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Speaker 1: Let's move on.

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Speaker 2: So it does question whether or not Kyle was hiding

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Speaker 3: Does not want to understand. Kyle's another one who does

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Speaker 3: not want to understand. She doesn't want to hear what

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Speaker 3: back and forth with her in Crystal or Cristal was

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Speaker 3: like telling her, you don't give me a space yet,

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Speaker 3: it's not a safe place.

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Speaker 4: It is not a safe place for Crystal.

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Speaker 3: Crystal isn't totally innocent, but it's not a safe place

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Speaker 4: Crystal has used the right verbiage.

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Speaker 3: Now, Crystal too has a way of being condescending. She

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Speaker 3: to have. But Crystal don't be exactly wrong when she says, nah,

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Speaker 3: that's a violation, Like it is a violation if I

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Speaker 3: don't if I'm not rocking with you like that, you

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Speaker 3: can't just open up my room door and come in

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Speaker 3: watching it. And even though I'm not a producer, but

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Speaker 3: there's clearly like a pact here with some of these women.

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Speaker 3: It's like, these are the untouchables right here, these right here,

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Speaker 3: that's why you see Garcell and Sutton. And I really

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Speaker 4: She really missed the ball with that.

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Speaker 1: I could not agree with you, Mark.

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Speaker 2: When I look at the cast of the Real Housewives

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Speaker 2: reach Lisa, Rena, and Erica. I think those women that

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Speaker 2: and I think when it comes to Garsela and Sutton,

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Speaker 2: when Garcel told Lisa Renna at last season's reunion that

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Speaker 2: she was told through a mutual friend that Lisa Renna said,

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Speaker 2: Garcel being on the show forces us to talk about race,

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Speaker 2: and this is not our show.

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Speaker 1: We do not talk about race.

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Speaker 2: And Lisa Sara, who is a self opera digest actress.

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Speaker 1: Gave the performance of her career.

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Speaker 2: When Lisa Renna carried herself over to the other couch,

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Speaker 2: it was to shut Garcel up before she could say

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Speaker 2: anything further because she knew this coureuin my career right

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Speaker 2: and I could be canceled. So when Lisa Rena showed

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Speaker 2: her slip when she tweeted, just because Garcella is on

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Speaker 2: this show doesn't mean everything is racist. I put two

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Speaker 2: and that four was for Garsel and the audience to know,

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Speaker 2: we do not want to talk about race on this show,

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Speaker 2: and we are afraid of having any disagreement with Garsel

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Speaker 2: and they are not happy that Scharie Garcel's friend is

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Speaker 3: They think that it's about to be the Niemi Gang,

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Speaker 4: It's about to be.

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Speaker 3: Close your neck to marry me, Like they really think

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Speaker 3: And especially as you can see with the Shari and

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Speaker 3: Whatever it's gonna be, Garcia tell us here to translate

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Speaker 3: it to that. Okay, However, she knows that she has

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Speaker 3: So I don't think that she necessarily wants to be

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Speaker 3: I don't care how many times Garsels says me and

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Speaker 2: I could not agree with you more. Sutton does not

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Speaker 2: She really wants to be a monster the cool girls.

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Speaker 4: She really does not.

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Speaker 3: When I really saw it, when her and Diana was

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Speaker 4: So cringe to watch because that was not Sutton at all.

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Speaker 3: You could tell something what the YouTuber said, all right,

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Speaker 3: let me Meei leaks reads part one.

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Speaker 4: Ni, Okay, what did he say? Let me tell you

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Speaker 4: what Suton want.

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Speaker 3: Some went to the episode where Nini and Claudia and

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Speaker 4: She's like, let me, okay, what is it. Okay, they

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Speaker 4: got him when you get the coin. They got him

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Speaker 4: when you got the coin? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Are you?

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Speaker 2: Are you suggesting Jesse that when Sutton.

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Speaker 1: And Diana had their one on.

440
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 2: One moment at Garcell's birthday party, that something went on

441
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 2: YouTube and type in the search engine Niini leaks reads

442
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 2: and she studied specifically the Putter read Code episode, and

443
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 2: she applied that to her conversation with Diana, because, to.

444
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 1: Your point, they both were perotious for no reason.

445
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 4: It was like somebody was in there like pulling streams.

446
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 4: All of a sudden.

447
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 3: It was like Niini and Claudia like just and then

448
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 3: it was ridiculous to me to watch. But I did

449
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 3: feel like that was more in character for Diana, though.

450
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 3: I did feel that for Diana. I think that Diana

451
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 3: the moment she sat down to do this show, she

452
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 3: was like, who the fuck are these bitches?

453
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 1: These?

454
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 4: Like, every last one of y'all are beneath me.

455
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: I agree.

456
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 4: Diana was like, first of all, none of y'all got

457
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 4: my point?

458
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 1: What are we talking about here?

459
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 4: I'm forty nine. I just had a baby.

460
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 3: None of y'all hoss is having babies at forty nine,

461
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 3: y'all hoss can't do this. I own three countries, not

462
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,640
Speaker 3: own I own three countries. Like what do y'all miss

463
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 3: his own mansions? I own three countries, okay, Like my

464
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 3: baby daddy is fifteen. None of y'all y'all ain't got

465
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 3: fifteen year old baby daddy's. Diana is like she's diabolic

466
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:52,479
Speaker 3: for like I can't sinna as listen, I cannot Diana please,

467
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 3: Like it's like and you know what's crazy. The first

468
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,479
Speaker 3: episode that she was there, I was like, okay, guess

469
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 3: make me feel poor, queen, Yes, I do like to

470
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 3: watch certain franchises for the coin, like, yes, make me

471
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 3: feel like I'm not doing shit with my life. But

472
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 3: Diana makes you feel like you worthless. Like I'm like, okay,

473
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 3: it's not this, ain't it Like not this ain't it

474
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 3: right here? I wanted to feel poor, not worthless, not

475
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 3: like my mama's swallowed me. But while when all Diana

476
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 3: though that comment that Diana made when Garcell said she's uneducated,

477
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 3: and Diana came back and was like, well, why don't

478
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 3: you tell them how much money I've sent a Haiti.

479
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 3: Let me tell you something again, Garcel is better than me.

480
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 3: That comment right there, and I don't really have to

481
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 3: I don't really have to dissect why that comment was trapped.

482
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 3: If that is the first thing you reached for to say, well,

483
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 3: tell them, We'll tell them why I sent money. Tell

484
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 3: them about how I sent money to the porest country

485
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 3: in the hemisphere.

486
00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 4: I go through this a lot.

487
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,719
Speaker 3: If I point not something that is wrong with our

488
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 3: government or with our country, I get go back to

489
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 3: your country very often. Well, bitch, I wouldn't be living here.

490
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 3: I would love to be in my country. But because

491
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 3: of capitalism, because of slavery, because of imperialism, because.

492
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 4: Of white supremacy. You know why this country is where

493
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 4: it's at.

494
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 3: And even someone like Diana who talks about coming from poverty,

495
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 3: when that's the first thing you reach for to point

496
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 3: out somebody's poverty.

497
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 4: You haven't learned. You didn't have to because you're still white.

498
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 4: You are still white.

499
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 3: I don't care what I don't care what country you

500
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,239
Speaker 3: came from. I don't care what language you speak. You

501
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 3: are still a white woman with blonde hair, and when

502
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 3: you walk around.

503
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 4: People are not gonna see that you came from whatever.

504
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:46,479
Speaker 1: Let's unpack this.

505
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 2: You're even educating me, which is again the beauty of

506
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 2: this conversation.

507
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: I never looked at it that way.

508
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 2: So you're saying that Diana, who is from a poor country,

509
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 2: who was proud to let the world know that, she

510
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 2: rolls above it and became this multi millionaire. So if

511
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 2: you are somebody who was born in a poor country,

512
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 2: how dare you throw that back up in another woman's

513
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 2: face as a clap.

514
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: Back because you called you uneducated?

515
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 3: And the reason why you're comfortable with doing that is because,

516
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 3: like I said, you are white.

517
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 4: And let's be very motherfucking clear.

518
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 3: The way Diana got her riches, it's not the same

519
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 3: way that Garcel got hers.

520
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 4: Gausie, Diana, you married into yours.

521
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: Garcel did not drop the mic.

522
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 2: That's very interesting, and to sort of go back into

523
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 2: these sort of different treatments and the way the children

524
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 2: are treated. Erica made a big deal about Garceil's book,

525
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 2: so much so she did a video of throwing in

526
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 2: the trash can, right yeah, And she said in a

527
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 2: response to a fan on Twitter that Garcel said something

528
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 2: about Lisa Renna's adult child, her daughter and how that

529
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 2: was out of line, and everyone sort of rallied around her.

530
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: And said like, yeah, that's true. Right.

531
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 2: So what's interesting is if you women felt that Garcela

532
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 2: mentioning Lisa renna U's adult daughter having eating disorder, Garcel

533
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 2: suggested that maybe it's because she's watching her mother who's thin,

534
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 2: and maybe that did something to her desire to not

535
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 2: want to eat. Right, Yeah, Erica felt that was out

536
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 2: of line. It's funny to you guys when Erica, that

537
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 2: same woman who was on this pedestal said get the

538
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 2: fuck out of here to someone's non adult child who's fourteen,

539
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 2: and it's funny and it's comical. So we are seeing

540
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 2: some different treatment in what they're doing. And that's the

541
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 2: reason why it is my belief that I just don't

542
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 2: think these women want Garcel around them.

543
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: I don't think they like her. And I do think

544
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: you're right in.

545
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 2: The sense of as a community, we're proud to see Garcel,

546
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 2: we root for her and to see her bring on Sharie.

547
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: I think this.

548
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 2: Franchise is going to have a makeover, and in my opinion,

549
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 2: I think Diana and dur are out and I think

550
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 2: Sharia is stepping in to hold the diamond so that

551
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 2: they can really make sure that Garcel, who's a formidable

552
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 2: cast member, is not on an island.

553
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, Diana can go, Danga could go.

554
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 3: It's just I was expecting more from her, like the fabulousness.

555
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 4: I was looking for fun.

556
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 3: Rich shade, not like she is just unbelievably condescending, like

557
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 3: it's like, damn girl.

558
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 4: But my thing with Garcel.

559
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 3: Again is I appreciat seeing Harna's platform.

560
00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 4: I love like that she's her.

561
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 3: And what I love about this show too is they've

562
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 3: been able to capture that Garcel is somebody who's still working.

563
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 3: She's going through to the real, even though the real

564
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 3: is canceled now, but she's not the real. She's writing books,

565
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 3: she's doing lifetime movies, and even though this looks like

566
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 3: a resurgence, Garcel has constantly been working. She may not

567
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 3: be like Gabrielle Union or Biola Davis, but Garcel keeps

568
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 3: a job. So it's been good to see her do this.

569
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 3: But I think it is time to move in some

570
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 3: more black women. I kind of feel like when I

571
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 3: think about Garcel, I kind of think about Ebony on

572
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 3: Real Housewives of New York, and I really feel like

573
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 3: she was not given a fair shot. She wasn't given

574
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 3: the support, she wasn't given the space to be fun

575
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 3: and be funny because I see that personality in her,

576
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 3: especially like on socials.

577
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 4: I follow her on socials, love Ebony.

578
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 3: She's so ridiculously smart, I mean, beautiful, gorgeous woman, great presence.

579
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 3: But I feel like she wasn't given an ease, a

580
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 3: fair shot. So I do want to see them build

581
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 3: something around ourselves.

582
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 4: I do. I agree with you.

583
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 2: Do you think America is ready for a diverse real

584
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 2: Housewives of Beverly Hills.

585
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 4: No, but I don't care. No, but I don't care.

586
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 4: We don't care what y'all what America want?

587
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 3: There are black people in Beverly Hills, There are Asian

588
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 3: people in Beverly Hills. There are Indian people in Beverly Hills,

589
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 3: Like they need to be represented too. And I'm sorry,

590
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 3: but what exactly are these white women bringing? Like you

591
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 3: have Crystal over there, and even though Crystal she has

592
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 3: a lot of work to do, Crystal is married to

593
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 3: the dude who co created.

594
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 4: The Lion King?

595
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: What are what are the.

596
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 4: Other girls bringing? Like, come on and Kyle, I feel

597
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 4: like holl is someone who will never leave and don't.

598
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:55,719
Speaker 4: I don't feel she should.

599
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 3: I want to. I would love to see Kathy come back, though,

600
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 3: but I mean it it is I don't care what

601
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 3: America wants.

602
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 4: It's time, especially in.

603
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 3: These socially revolutionary conscious times where we want to see

604
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 3: people represented.

605
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 2: So one thing I bought my listeners to know about

606
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 2: you is you are also an actress and you are

607
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 2: starring my love in a script is show right that

608
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 2: is on the All Black Network. Correct, Yes, and it's

609
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 2: a show called a La Carte. You are playing Misha Taylor,

610
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 2: who is in a lesbian relationship with a woman named Nicole,

611
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 2: who is played by one of my loves and fan

612
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 2: favorite of the Real Houseporks of Atlanta, Candy Burrs.

613
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 4: Candy money Bag Birds.

614
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 3: Yes, but the show is executive produced by Megan Good.

615
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 4: It was created by a black woman.

616
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 3: Breanna Hogan, and the storyline follows four friends who are

617
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 3: living in Studio City, California, and they're just trying to

618
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 3: figure life out. My character is she's a teacher by day,

619
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,479
Speaker 3: very educated, but at night, you know, the freaks come

620
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 3: out at night, and that is where she kind of

621
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 3: lets her wig down and she's exploring herself sexually.

622
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: What is it like playing opposite Candy?

623
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 3: You know, It's funny though, because I've known Candy for

624
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 3: a couple of years. Candy is the first person to

625
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 3: put me on tour. So back in twenty nineteen, I

626
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 3: had an EP called Moves of the Cancer. She put

627
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 3: me on her dungeon tour. I sang on it, which

628
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 3: was great.

629
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 4: So we've been cool ever since.

630
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 3: And so I didn't know she was gonna be my

631
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 3: love interest until I got there that day.

632
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 4: And when it was her, like I could not stop laughing.

633
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 4: I was so nervous. And this was my first acting job,

634
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 4: which is crazy.

635
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 3: Everybody keeps saying how great I did, but it was

636
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 3: my first acting job. And when we were supposed to

637
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 3: record we had a love scene. She had to calm

638
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 3: me down because I could not stop laughing. Like I

639
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 3: just was like, I don't know, like I can't even

640
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 3: fake it because it's like it was a nervous laughter.

641
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 4: I could not stop laughing. And then she was just nice.

642
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 3: She just she's like, girl, come on now, we gotta

643
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 3: come on now, Like she pulled me to the side,

644
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 3: She's like, come on now, we gotta get serious.

645
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 4: We gotta do this.

646
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 3: She's like, let me know what you're comfortable with. So

647
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 3: she's great. But most importantly, she's professional. She's professional. She

648
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 3: takes what she does so serious, like I don't know

649
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 3: how she does all these things at once and does

650
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 3: them all so well. But she's definitely someone who is

651
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 3: chasing excellence constantly, constantly, and she's so sweet. She's so

652
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 3: give me, like you can call her anytime, she'll talk,

653
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 3: she'll hang out with you, like I don't know, I've

654
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 3: told her before, I'm like.

655
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 4: Are you Are you okay?

656
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 3: Because I've met people who don't even have close to

657
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,720
Speaker 3: what Candy has, but they don't have that the character

658
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 3: that she has, the generosity that she has. She's genuine,

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Speaker 3: she's nice, she's kind. So I look forward to working

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Speaker 3: with her again. They have not renewed us just yet,

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Speaker 3: but you know perfectly they will because there was a

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Speaker 3: pleasure working with her.

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Speaker 1: I love hearing that. Now.

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Speaker 2: Kennie's the best, She's the umast professional. So recently the

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Speaker 2: BT Awards were on and.

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Speaker 1: You are guys. You have to follow Jesse Will on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: You are truly one of the funniest people on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: Your tweets are funny. It's to the point where I

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Speaker 2: want to retweet Jesse tweets so bad, but because I

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Speaker 2: give my own shade and because I get dragged anyway,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, Jesse, I can't also add your dragness on

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Speaker 2: my drag news. I just can't do it right. But

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Speaker 2: you Live tweeted during the BT Awards and Young Miami

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Speaker 2: aka Carisha Please she was holding a sign while p

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Speaker 2: Diddy was giving his acceptance speech because he won like

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Speaker 2: the icon of word or something, and Kresha I eat

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Speaker 2: Young Miami was holding a sign saying go Poppy, and

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Speaker 2: you tweeted something along the lives of did he thank

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Speaker 2: every one in the world except the woman who's holding

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Speaker 2: the side? And then Karsha and JT both retweeted you

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Speaker 2: pretty much say bitch, they ain't what you want.

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Speaker 3: It's hilarious because, I mean, the moment was so chaotic

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Speaker 3: to me because that man really thank everybody in his life,

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Speaker 3: including Cassie, and you think everybody but except for this

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Speaker 3: girl that's right in funny.

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Speaker 4: Tom don't Poppy, don't pap and you don't think of

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Speaker 4: that's not weird.

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Speaker 3: So I thought that was weird, and I feel like

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Speaker 3: I wasn't the only one who thought that everybody was

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Speaker 3: tweeting that.

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Speaker 4: Now, Carlos, I tweeted what I tweeted, I go home with.

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Speaker 1: My fi'm on with my night, I go to bed.

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Speaker 4: I wake up the next morning. My friend is like

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Speaker 4: blowing up my phone. She's like, girl, did you see

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Speaker 4: what's going up? Shade room? Everybody I'm posted my tweet.

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Speaker 4: My tweet is everywhere.

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Speaker 3: And then you have JT saying something paraphrasing when she

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Speaker 3: was like, you know, don't don't be acting like it's

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Speaker 3: not easy to identify you.

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Speaker 4: I identify, verify you, touch you, and then have you identify.

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Speaker 1: Something like that.

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Speaker 4: So when I saw that, that was clearly a threat,

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Speaker 4: and what I did.

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Speaker 3: Was I reached in my kneknee bag with all her reactions,

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Speaker 3: and she had this episode of Housewives where remember her guy.

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Speaker 4: He bought her something and he was like telling.

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Speaker 6: Her John yes, and then she was like, okay, whatever

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Speaker 6: that means things are getting weird this season.

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Speaker 1: Or Nini was dating a white man named John.

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Speaker 2: John bought Nini a rolex and Niini got the rolex

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Speaker 2: and said.

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Speaker 1: Uh, okay, this is getting weird. So that was your

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Speaker 1: response to JT.

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Speaker 3: That's what I responded the next day, and everybody was

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Speaker 3: pretty much like on my side with that. And I

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Speaker 3: think that sometimes, and I've learned this, when somebody says

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Speaker 3: something on social media that you don't like, your best

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Speaker 3: bet is to not even engage. Because the tweet was there,

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Speaker 3: it didn't go viral until they engaged with it.

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Speaker 4: And when they engaged with it, it got picked up everywhere.

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Speaker 3: I mean I looked at E News. It was on

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Speaker 3: E News, like it was everywhere, and it was because

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Speaker 3: they engaged with it.

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Speaker 4: And it's like I tried.

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Speaker 3: I tried to learn this too, Like somebody will say

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Speaker 3: something I don't like, I will engage because you know what,

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Speaker 3: in the moment, you might be like in your feelings.

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Speaker 3: But then it's like, actually I ain't like what they said,

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Speaker 3: but that shit was funny, Like, yes, it's about me,

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Speaker 3: but it was fucking funny.

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Speaker 4: I know how to take a joke, you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean?

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Speaker 1: And so that was that Where can people follow?

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Speaker 4: You?

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Speaker 1: Find you?

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Speaker 4: Jesse?

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Speaker 3: You can find me on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, the same,

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Speaker 3: It's all the same on all platforms. Th E j

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Speaker 3: E S s I E woo V Jesse Wu on

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Speaker 3: all social media platforms.

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Speaker 2: Baby, that was a conversation for the books. I could

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Speaker 2: not stop laughing at Jesse. I could not stop learning

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Speaker 2: more from her. I'm so happy that I chose her

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Speaker 2: to have this conversation with because, guys, she even opened

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Speaker 2: up my eyes to a lot of things that I

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Speaker 2: didn't see. And that's the beauty of this podcast is

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Speaker 2: the fact that I'm not a know at all. I

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Speaker 2: don't know everything, so to have someone also educate me

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Speaker 2: on things, it's the beautiful part of this conversation that

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Speaker 2: I have with Jesse Wu. And I must say, we

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Speaker 2: need to invite her back when we have more to

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Speaker 2: talk about, more to dish.

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Speaker 1: And when she meets the city girls. Yes a let

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Speaker 1: us know Jesse.

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Speaker 2: Thoughts, opinions, reads about my conversation with Jesse wou email

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Speaker 2: me at Reality with the King at stitcher dot com

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Speaker 2: or Leadmai a voicemail at three one zero five nine

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Speaker 2: three eight one eight eight.

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