WEBVTT - Joel Dahmen

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to another edition of the Frida Egg Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Today I am joined by PGA Tour player Joel Damon.

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<v Speaker 1>Joel lives down in Scottsdale, Arizona. He is from Washington

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<v Speaker 1>originally and has been on tour for a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>years amidst the best year of his career. It's on

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<v Speaker 1>pause right now, but he will be back out there

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as golf is back out there. It was

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<v Speaker 1>fun talking to Joel, one of my favorite follows on

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter of all the pro golfers.

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<v Speaker 2>I miss the green for example, I'm already upset when

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<v Speaker 2>I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset.

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<v Speaker 3>And when I find my ball in Arid Egg Frida

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<v Speaker 3>Egg Friday, Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>Bride Egg Lie, I'm about ready to run off the

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<v Speaker 1>golf course. Hey, how good is Nick Taylor at Mario.

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<v Speaker 2>Kart Legit no joke, like top ten in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a way better Mario Kart player than he has

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<v Speaker 2>a PJ. Griblair by far. You can look at he

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<v Speaker 2>this last week or something on his Twitter.

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<v Speaker 3>He put out.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of his lap times and they're like no one's

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<v Speaker 2>even coming close, Like it's it's unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's that's a legit claim. That is a real

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<v Speaker 1>thing in Canada.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I mean I would be.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I mean, obviously there's maybe somebody else out

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<v Speaker 2>there who's been playing it for the last twenty five years.

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<v Speaker 2>But the amount of time that Nick spent, Kevin Spooner spent,

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<v Speaker 2>was there other roommate, a college sculfer at you dub

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<v Speaker 2>and then myself, I was a distant third among the

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<v Speaker 2>three of us. But I still have not met somebody

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<v Speaker 2>who can beat me consistently in a race. So they

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<v Speaker 2>they have better drifting capabilities and they're better peer drivers,

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<v Speaker 2>but I still be somebody who can beat me the

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<v Speaker 2>way that I use items, the way that I understand

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<v Speaker 2>kind of how to race.

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<v Speaker 3>It is just I haven't.

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<v Speaker 2>So Nick and Kevin are way better than I'll ever be,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm better than i've I've never raised somebody who

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<v Speaker 2>can touch me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny how when you play with somebody that is

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<v Speaker 1>like really good at something like I haven't. I had

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<v Speaker 1>a buddy who won a state title in tennis, and

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<v Speaker 1>playing him in like paddle tennis and ping pong growing up,

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<v Speaker 1>I would just get waxed. I couldn't even like core points.

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<v Speaker 1>But then you play somebody else and you're like, you

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<v Speaker 1>just kill them. But exactly, guys are really good. They

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<v Speaker 1>just it's like demoralizing playing it really is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're I mean, it's it is remarkable. I know

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<v Speaker 2>that Nick has kicked up.

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<v Speaker 3>He actually his.

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<v Speaker 2>Place here in scott still. He's you know, he's been

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<v Speaker 2>here for the last but over two or three weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's.

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<v Speaker 1>Moved.

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<v Speaker 2>He had to get an old TV that had the

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<v Speaker 2>proper av jacks, took up the instinct spot. He moved

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<v Speaker 2>it into the proper living room and he set it

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<v Speaker 2>up and he has this whole thing just set up

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<v Speaker 2>just for him and is in sixty four.

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<v Speaker 3>So he's been putting time in for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>He's getting in peak season.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly. Now would be a bad time to race neck.

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<v Speaker 1>So you what have you been doing with this huge break?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, I'm I'm pretty good at doing nothing,

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<v Speaker 2>like one of the best to doing nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>So this doesn't really bother me too much.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, obviously I want to be out there playing

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<v Speaker 2>and competing, but it's great to be home. I got

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<v Speaker 2>a great black lab he's six years old named Murphy W.

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<v Speaker 2>I hang out with all the time. He just dropped

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<v Speaker 2>the ball at my feet actually, so he wants to

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<v Speaker 2>go outside and play. My wife is unbelievable cook, so

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<v Speaker 2>she's been cooking a ton. I've been doing puzzles, playing

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<v Speaker 2>board games. Have not unpacked my bag, so laundry doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>really happened. I still have the bag from the Players

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<v Speaker 2>Championship in my room. Travel bag is still in the

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<v Speaker 2>back of the car, so I haven't really with the

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<v Speaker 2>golf club, so I haven't done much of that either.

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<v Speaker 2>But we have a nice backyard, a nice pool. I

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<v Speaker 2>play dards, play cornhole, kind of anything, and then I'm

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good at sleeping too, so I do a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I call cornhole bags.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know it's the thing, but I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>a regional thing, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like golfers are like the best bags players

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<v Speaker 1>in the world because it's I feel like it's very

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<v Speaker 1>similar to like pitching, hitting like a pitch shot.

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<v Speaker 2>Almost yeah, yeah, sure, I mean, yeah, you could definitely

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<v Speaker 2>make that argument. I think that a lot of golfers

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<v Speaker 2>are great at bar games, or you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have any bar games necessarily, but you know, other other

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<v Speaker 2>little competitive games that don't require like running or jumping.

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<v Speaker 2>I think golfers are some of the best athletes at

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's you get ping pong, or you get darts,

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<v Speaker 2>you get bags or cornhole, you get little things like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Pretty pretty tough bunch, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>You If you take the best golfers, man, I think

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<v Speaker 2>we'd suck up pretty well across the board.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything that doesn't require like speed and athleticism.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah exactly. I mean, uh yeah, I think that's pretty fair.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously we can't we can't hold our own on any

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<v Speaker 3>of those competitions.

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<v Speaker 2>But I would put you know, if you took the

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<v Speaker 2>ten best golfers and you put them against you know,

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<v Speaker 2>top ten of the other athletes and these smaller sports,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I would call him a maybe out a six.

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<v Speaker 3>Pack of beer on the side. I think the golfers

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<v Speaker 3>would be pretty darn good at it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's I I agree with that. Especially the more

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<v Speaker 1>beer you put involved in it, it's the better, I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean I imagine, you know, you get a

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<v Speaker 2>guy like Kissner or some of those guys. I think

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<v Speaker 2>Coltons can probably play, and he's retired now, but I

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<v Speaker 2>imagine Gary Woodland with with the bags would be unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>So you get you know, decent athletes out there, and

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<v Speaker 2>I mean Rory's out there playing tennis like he's ripping

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<v Speaker 2>four hands down the line.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that's pretty impressive stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I imagine the skill of being good at doing

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<v Speaker 1>nothing is actually probably pretty valuable as a tour pro

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<v Speaker 1>because we do.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Absolutely, I feel.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's a misconception, is that, like you guys actually

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<v Speaker 1>have a ton of time because you can't practice all

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<v Speaker 1>day long.

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<v Speaker 2>No, and rest and recovery is just important as you

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<v Speaker 2>know out you know, when we're out there practicing all

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<v Speaker 2>the time, as much as we travel different hotel rooms,

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<v Speaker 2>always eating out, stuff like that, you have to be

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<v Speaker 2>really good at doing nothing, whether that's netflix. So we

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<v Speaker 2>will spend more time working out, you know whatever, spending

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<v Speaker 2>time with your family. But it's like a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of downtime. You know what, if you have

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<v Speaker 2>an afternoon tea time, then you have all morning do nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have a morning tea time, you're early off

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<v Speaker 2>and you're done. You can't sleep all afternoon, so you

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<v Speaker 2>got you got to do basically nothing. Whatever that is

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<v Speaker 2>so yeah, some guys travel with video games on the road,

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<v Speaker 2>some guys read some books, whatever it may be. But

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<v Speaker 2>doing nothing is definitely a skilly Neal and PJ tour,

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<v Speaker 2>especially when you take days off, like a Monday off.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you prefer a certain draw Do you like going

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<v Speaker 1>morning afternoon or morning afternoon or afternoon morning?

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<v Speaker 2>I like late early, so I like going off yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>in the afternoon and Thursday and waking up and just

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<v Speaker 2>playing again quickly Friday.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the golf course changes less in that time period.

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<v Speaker 2>If you play early Thursday and late Friday, golf course

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<v Speaker 2>can change a ton in that twenty four hours gets

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<v Speaker 2>Tinday and we can get firm and fast on Friday afternoon,

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<v Speaker 2>where Thursday morning is typically the easiest time of the

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<v Speaker 2>golf course.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, everything is still kind of wet and slow.

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<v Speaker 2>And but also if you play well Thursday afternoon, all

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<v Speaker 2>you do is you go home, eat, wake up, and

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<v Speaker 2>play against So there's not a lot of time to

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<v Speaker 2>think about it.

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<v Speaker 3>You're in a good rhythm still most of the time.

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<v Speaker 2>And I like posting early Friday because then you go

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<v Speaker 2>out later Saturday as well, And I don't know, I'd

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<v Speaker 2>be really curious. I guess the dad is out there somewhere,

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<v Speaker 2>but it'd be really interesting to see what my splits

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<v Speaker 2>are on the waves and see which one I actually

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<v Speaker 2>could play better wrong, because I feel like I play

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<v Speaker 2>better late early, but maybe that's not the case at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the better one too, because, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>if you play well, you're just basically continuing the round.

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<v Speaker 1>Like there's nothing better than just getting to keep going.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're playing well, you know, absolutely, Yeah, the more

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<v Speaker 1>time you have to think about it, the worst golf

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<v Speaker 1>usually goes. So any any hobbies that you picked up

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<v Speaker 1>while you're while you've been doing that, you said, puzzles, anything, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So.

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<v Speaker 2>The we've been quarantining with the Harkins. Brandon Harkins played

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<v Speaker 2>on tour for a couple of years and he lives

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<v Speaker 2>just up the road. So the only people we've been

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<v Speaker 2>seeing is Brandon his life Rachel. They puzzle like crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>He also play a lot of dominoes. That's a game

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<v Speaker 2>we just picked up. My wife and I they've been playing,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, their whole lives. I was kind of family

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<v Speaker 2>game for them, but we've been playing dominoes.

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<v Speaker 3>That's been fun. It's cars it's very slight.

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<v Speaker 2>No, So we've been quarantinating with the Harkins and playing dominoes.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's that's a fun way. Puzzlers one right next

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<v Speaker 3>to me. It is a kind of every city, every

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<v Speaker 3>major city in every state, so that's kind of fun.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a great way to pass the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Digging into a couple of bottles of wine has been

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<v Speaker 2>has been nicely. We've kind of gathered a large white

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<v Speaker 2>collection over the last couple of years and don't drink

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<v Speaker 2>it a ton.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, So we've been kind of digging into that.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've been reading a couple of books, uh, Ryan Holliday,

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<v Speaker 2>which actually Rory kind of made famous this last year.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually read The Ego as the Enemy prior to

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<v Speaker 2>that and The Obstacle Is Away. Those are two books

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<v Speaker 2>that are pretty popular read. It's some of those. And

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<v Speaker 2>I can watch Netflix with anybody, man, I can crush

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<v Speaker 2>the Netflix. So that and between social media and just

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<v Speaker 2>wasting time.

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<v Speaker 1>What are your Netflix recommendations everybody?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Tiger King is obviously uh popular. I probably watched

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<v Speaker 2>that at this point. I think we're gonna start Ozark soon.

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<v Speaker 2>We watched My Wife.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just garbage, garbage, TV, but it's called the Circle.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't. I couldn't. I can only do it in

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<v Speaker 1>small dude.

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<v Speaker 3>It is so bad.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was like I was looking at kind of

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<v Speaker 2>on the competitive aspect, they're trying to win the game,

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<v Speaker 2>they're trying to kind of cap.

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<v Speaker 3>Fish each other, whatever the whole deal was.

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<v Speaker 2>So that one for me like kind of got me

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<v Speaker 2>hooked and I just hate that crap, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>it was pretty funny. But I also watched on Netflix recently,

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<v Speaker 2>Huh what else? Yeah, man, you can, I like any

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<v Speaker 2>documentaries anything. I'm a big murderment street guy, so anything

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<v Speaker 2>along those lines, and mind Hunter is a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>When we watched recently, Yeah, anything documentary, I'm pretty big into.

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<v Speaker 1>That's.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>They got the Bulls Bulls doc coming up the Jordan.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that's good. That's coming out what in two weeks?

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<v Speaker 2>I think, yeah, ten days.

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<v Speaker 3>Something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's something I'm excited about for sure. SuperSonics, I

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<v Speaker 1>know it's Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just on the MLB Network yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>I had the ninety five Marriers when he came back

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<v Speaker 2>from O two on the Yankees in the divisional rounds.

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<v Speaker 3>So that was fun to watch that game. Five.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thank you pitched that game right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he came in relief, so he pitched game four,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he came back on one day rest, uh

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<v Speaker 2>and pitched like three or four.

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<v Speaker 3>He actually didn't pitch that great.

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<v Speaker 2>He gave up. He gave up a run in the eleventh,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's when Edgar hit the double down the line.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, with that.

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<v Speaker 2>But then the ninety six Sonics, man, we were so

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<v Speaker 2>good Atry Payton, Sean Kent Uh that left Shrimp, Percy Hawkins.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a crew Nate McMillan, so we were good.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean we were good probably yeah. Yeah, he was

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<v Speaker 2>our center of the big easy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. We had Ian that was our year.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean obviously, you know, Jordan's beating everybody at that time,

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<v Speaker 2>and I couldn't love in the finals. So it was

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<v Speaker 2>a little disappointing.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I was still.

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<v Speaker 2>Youngest time, but I remember vividly the good years of

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<v Speaker 2>the Sonics.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I got so spoiled as a kid because I

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<v Speaker 1>had the Bulls when I think we're around the same age,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's like I grew up with, you know, watching

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA and the Bulls and they've win every single

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<v Speaker 1>year and it's just like, and you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>we're paying for it now a Chicago fans, we haven't

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<v Speaker 1>had the best run of sports, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, certainly.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, the year with with Jordans, I mean when

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<v Speaker 2>he went ninety two, three four, took.

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<v Speaker 3>A year off or.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then came back ninety eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was like a sneaky Utah jazz fan.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's probably not allowed, but being a Sonics fan,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was a huge fan of Stockton. He was

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<v Speaker 2>a Spokane guy and I grew up not far from him.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, they couldn't take down Jordan the bulls.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm excited for that documentary. That'll be fun and

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<v Speaker 2>it'll you know, hopefully give everybody a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>hope during this crazy time.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, so talk about growing up in eastern Washington. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not exactly a hot ad for golfers in general.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sneaky amount of guys actually. So Kirk Triplett was

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<v Speaker 2>from went to high school in Pullman, Washington. Follow that guy, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he went to University of Nevada Reno and

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<v Speaker 2>obviously had a pretty successful career for Jews years now,

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<v Speaker 2>thirty years probably out there, but.

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<v Speaker 3>He was there. Alex Prue is from Spokane. He was

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of.

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<v Speaker 2>Years older than me, but uh, it a guy and

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<v Speaker 2>then you know, quart off you guys in Seattle area

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<v Speaker 2>through the years. But where I grew up was two

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<v Speaker 2>hours south of Spokane, five hours east of Boise and

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<v Speaker 2>five hours sorry, five hours north of Boise and five

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<v Speaker 2>hours east of Seattle. So pocket in the southeast corner

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<v Speaker 2>of the state on the Snakeer River.

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<v Speaker 3>It was the lowest spot in Idaho.

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<v Speaker 2>It was loose and Idaho and then we were at

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<v Speaker 2>you know, only six or seven hundred feet so could play.

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<v Speaker 3>Golf year round, maybe a week.

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<v Speaker 2>Off of snow, but not much fun, fun place to

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<v Speaker 2>grow up with the outdoors, fishing, hunting, did all sorts

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff on the river, skiing and jet skiing, and

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<v Speaker 2>so it was a great spot. I had a little

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<v Speaker 2>country club I grew up on that was one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>bucks a month as a family afford to join, and

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<v Speaker 2>we drove drove my golf cart down there. Uh, played

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<v Speaker 2>almost every day in the summer, and it was just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of what we did. But certainly certainly a small

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<v Speaker 2>town and not a whole lot of not a whole

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<v Speaker 2>lot going on there, which is probably good for a

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<v Speaker 2>kid grown up.

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<v Speaker 1>You probably had going to junior term as you were

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<v Speaker 1>always having to travel a ton for that stuff, right exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>So my mom was a school teacher, so she had

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<v Speaker 2>summers off and we would hop in the minivan and

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<v Speaker 2>we would drive. Almost every event was in Spokane for

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the beginning of the year, and then

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<v Speaker 2>the bigger.

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<v Speaker 3>Turments were was in Seattle, so two hours.

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<v Speaker 2>We'd drive up in the morning, play, come back in

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<v Speaker 2>the evening, and then Seattle.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we'd have to make.

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<v Speaker 2>The five hour trek over there often for every type

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<v Speaker 2>of state tournament or qualifiers or anything that was you know,

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<v Speaker 2>bigger than.

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<v Speaker 3>A regional deal.

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<v Speaker 2>We did.

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<v Speaker 3>We did a lot of traveling in the minivans for

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<v Speaker 3>a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Not to bring up a sore subject, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll relate. I flunked out of college. Yeah, nice, and

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<v Speaker 1>obviously it completely changed my life. Like it was like

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<v Speaker 1>a moment in time were at a you know, relative

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<v Speaker 1>young age. I kind of had a like wake up

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<v Speaker 1>moment where it's like, what the what the hell are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing? Did you went through something just like that?

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<v Speaker 1>How did it kind of change the way you approached

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<v Speaker 1>golf in life in general.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's I was from a small town, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>at ten thousand people in my town, and I was

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<v Speaker 2>a big fish and small pond and had a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people looking out for me. As soon as I

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<v Speaker 2>went to you Dub over in Seattle, I was just

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<v Speaker 2>another human on a massive campus in a huge city.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was not ready for that. I you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I was struggling with the passing of my mother. I

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<v Speaker 2>lost my mom a year and a half prior, so

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<v Speaker 2>I was just a lost kid who.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of took everything for granted.

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<v Speaker 2>And I really enjoyed the social time at you Dub.

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<v Speaker 3>I was pretty good at that. I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I was a coordinator for a lot of my friends,

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<v Speaker 2>made sure that we all have fun on the weekends,

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<v Speaker 2>and for me it was sometimes midweek as well. I

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<v Speaker 2>was plenty smart, like I didn't have any problem with

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<v Speaker 2>I just didn't really go to client. Didn't think I

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<v Speaker 2>needed to go to class. I thought it was this

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<v Speaker 2>cool athlete who could just play golf. I was starting

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<v Speaker 2>as a freshman and doing just fine and didn't really

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<v Speaker 2>heat it in the warnings that were coming along the

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<v Speaker 2>way either, And before I knew it, I was out

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<v Speaker 2>of school, and you know, I had every opportunity to

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<v Speaker 2>come back. I could go get my grades up at

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<v Speaker 2>a local college and tried that for a bit, and

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<v Speaker 2>I just really had no interest in school and had

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<v Speaker 2>no interest in really doing anything in life.

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<v Speaker 3>Really. I wasn't even really playing golf. I was just

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<v Speaker 3>kind of hanging out and being a lazy bumb So.

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<v Speaker 2>After the money ran out, which didn't take very long,

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<v Speaker 2>I was a little bit of a wake up call

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<v Speaker 2>of what the heck am I gonna do with my life?

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, you I could go back to school,

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<v Speaker 2>but that didn't seem very fun. Or I could try

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<v Speaker 2>this golf thing out, and so I rounded up some

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<v Speaker 2>money and tried.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want a job, so I tried pretty hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Luckily it all worked.

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<v Speaker 3>Out for me in the end.

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<v Speaker 2>But man, at eighteen to twenty twenty one, twenty two,

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<v Speaker 2>I was I wasn't doing much productive in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I had kind of the same thing. It wasn't like

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<v Speaker 1>the school that was the problem. That was like getting

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<v Speaker 1>to school that was.

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<v Speaker 3>The problem exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And you just like that's why, you know, I ended

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<v Speaker 1>up going back. But that's why I always tell people,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, all you have to do is go to class.

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<v Speaker 1>In college, if you go to class, it's impossible to

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<v Speaker 1>not like pass.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you just turn If you go to class,

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<v Speaker 2>you just turn in this souf you're supposed to turn in.

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<v Speaker 3>No matter how happy it is, they're going to get

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<v Speaker 3>you out of there. Yeah. I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember it was my first thing in whatever three

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<v Speaker 2>weeks in we had to turn in like a ten

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<v Speaker 2>ten page paper and I had never written anything like

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<v Speaker 2>that in my life. And I had no idea what

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<v Speaker 2>it was doing. To have tutors to help us, and

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<v Speaker 2>we had all to help me get I just just.

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<v Speaker 3>Figured out whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>In high school, I could kind of get by the

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<v Speaker 2>teachers liked me, and I could scribble something down and

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<v Speaker 2>get by. But college you just have to show up

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<v Speaker 2>and do a little bit of work. And they give

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<v Speaker 2>anybody a degree if you get out of it. But

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<v Speaker 2>you just have put in your time. And I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>willing to do that, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that you went through this period where

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<v Speaker 1>you weren't doing much, You were you were hanging out

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<v Speaker 1>probably you know, partying and everything, and that then when

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<v Speaker 1>you were young pro trying to make it it actually

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<v Speaker 1>helped you because you had already like gotten some stuff

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<v Speaker 1>out of your system.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh. Yes and no.

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<v Speaker 2>So it helped me be able to compete at a

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<v Speaker 2>high level while still partying was the problem. Uh. My

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<v Speaker 2>sponsor was incredible for many years. He always funded whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I was good enough of golf to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of keep it afloat for a couple of years and

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<v Speaker 2>played on the Canadian Tour and did find up there

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<v Speaker 2>and played played pretty well the mini tours everywhere I went,

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<v Speaker 2>state opens and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>But I didn't take it. I mean the money.

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<v Speaker 2>I had my bills paid and I had enough money

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<v Speaker 2>to have some beer at the same time. So it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't tell the guys that was better than around me.

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<v Speaker 2>For a couple years, We're moving onto the Web Tour

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<v Speaker 2>and on the PJ Tour and I'm like, whoa wait,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm better than you, Like why are you out there?

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm not so.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple of years before a wake up call happened,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, cancer for being dined with cancer help with

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<v Speaker 2>that as well. That was a little okay, dude, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>you should probably take this more seriously and not waste

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<v Speaker 2>the opportunity you have. You know, you don't how long

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<v Speaker 2>the opportunity to the window golf is going to stay open.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was a little combo of everything, but certainly

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<v Speaker 2>really started I guess trying really hard in twelve and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, get working with a swing instructor and doing

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<v Speaker 2>everything that way, and you know, since then, I've been

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<v Speaker 2>on a steady, steady rise.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess you.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of lived a lot of life early in life,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in a way certainly, Yeah, tweet everything with

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<v Speaker 1>it rise obviously, what going from many tours Canada, Web Tour,

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<v Speaker 1>PGA tour, did you feel like, what's the difference at

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<v Speaker 1>each level? I guess, and how you felt does it

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<v Speaker 1>take it? Did it take time to acclimate and and

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<v Speaker 1>really start to feel comfortable at each level or did

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<v Speaker 1>it you know were there? You know, did you always

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<v Speaker 1>feel comfortable at a certain level and there was a

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<v Speaker 1>moment where you know you had to you felt like

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<v Speaker 1>you had to adjust.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I always felt comfortable in the Canadian tour. I just

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't super sharp.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to, you know, just get a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>better at everything kind of deal. I always hit the

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<v Speaker 2>battle kaye chipped and putted okay, but Canada was just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of just sticking to it and you know, grinding

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<v Speaker 2>it out a little bit and staying patient up there,

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<v Speaker 2>which is hard to do. But felt okay on the

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<v Speaker 2>Web Tour now the corn Fairy Tour, I guess. But

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<v Speaker 2>I did okay out there first year, hung around. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't feel overwhelmed because there wasn't you were playing with

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<v Speaker 2>like your childhood heroes. You weren't playing with Saw on

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<v Speaker 2>TV all the time. It was just kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>you know, show up and play the event and hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>you do okay. And I did find out there, But

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<v Speaker 2>as soon as I got to the PJ Tour, I

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of in shell shock. I was wet eyed

0:22:11.320 --> 0:22:14.280
<v Speaker 2>and bushy tailed, and didn't really know if I belonged

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<v Speaker 2>or not.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>It took a long time. The rookie year, I had

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<v Speaker 2>no sense of belonging. I didn't think that's good enough.

0:22:22.920 --> 0:22:24.919
<v Speaker 2>Only got to play in sixteen events because I was

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<v Speaker 2>playing poorly, and then you know that the numbers didn't

0:22:27.080 --> 0:22:30.159
<v Speaker 2>work out for me very well. Then luckily got my

0:22:30.200 --> 0:22:34.200
<v Speaker 2>card back through the Web Tour finals, so I got

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<v Speaker 2>into a crack at it and started to show some

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<v Speaker 2>promise on a little bit better golf and got more

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<v Speaker 2>comfortable out there, and about halfway through the year, I

0:22:41.040 --> 0:22:42.640
<v Speaker 2>was skinted, picking it up a little.

0:22:42.400 --> 0:22:44.160
<v Speaker 3>Bit and feeling like I compete.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I went on a nice run in the

0:22:45.600 --> 0:22:49.040
<v Speaker 2>summer of you know, I finished fifth and then second,

0:22:49.080 --> 0:22:51.040
<v Speaker 2>and then I get another top ten the week after that.

0:22:51.160 --> 0:22:53.240
<v Speaker 3>So it was like a really good run that let

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<v Speaker 3>me know.

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<v Speaker 2>That I could compete out there and hang around for

0:22:55.760 --> 0:22:58.359
<v Speaker 2>a long time, and what I had was good enough.

0:22:58.440 --> 0:23:00.920
<v Speaker 2>So I mean, it probably took me thirty events before

0:23:00.960 --> 0:23:03.000
<v Speaker 2>I felt okay on the VJ Tour like I should

0:23:03.000 --> 0:23:04.440
<v Speaker 2>be out here week in and week out.

0:23:04.560 --> 0:23:07.480
<v Speaker 3>I can't compete, you know, with.

0:23:07.320 --> 0:23:10.399
<v Speaker 2>With most of these guys, and then, uh, you know,

0:23:10.440 --> 0:23:13.399
<v Speaker 2>getting better a little bit too helps, But for me,

0:23:13.480 --> 0:23:15.080
<v Speaker 2>it was it was thirty events.

0:23:15.080 --> 0:23:16.359
<v Speaker 3>It was a year and a half before I feld

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<v Speaker 3>okay out there about.

0:23:17.720 --> 0:23:21.320
<v Speaker 2>Actually showing up to events knowing I could compete, knowing

0:23:21.359 --> 0:23:23.600
<v Speaker 2>that I could be out here a while, and to

0:23:23.640 --> 0:23:24.439
<v Speaker 2>get colpful with it.

0:23:25.359 --> 0:23:28.520
<v Speaker 1>I imagine at every level you're you're seeing people like

0:23:28.560 --> 0:23:31.560
<v Speaker 1>your peers that you've played with your entire life, and

0:23:31.600 --> 0:23:35.160
<v Speaker 1>then it becomes smaller and smaller every way every step up,

0:23:35.280 --> 0:23:37.240
<v Speaker 1>and then that you get the PGA Tour, and there's

0:23:37.280 --> 0:23:39.600
<v Speaker 1>so few of them around. It's so exactly so a

0:23:39.600 --> 0:23:43.600
<v Speaker 1>few familiar faces, uh being you had your status when

0:23:43.640 --> 0:23:45.920
<v Speaker 1>you came out. You were number twenty five on the

0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:51.800
<v Speaker 1>on the web money list, and so that gave you

0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:54.439
<v Speaker 1>just a spot where you just didn't How hard was

0:23:54.480 --> 0:23:57.080
<v Speaker 1>it not knowing when you were going to play even.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was really tough. In the year that I

0:23:59.359 --> 0:24:00.000
<v Speaker 3>came in, it like.

0:24:00.160 --> 0:24:02.560
<v Speaker 2>In the fall of sixteen was my rookie year, and

0:24:02.600 --> 0:24:07.120
<v Speaker 2>the numbers were absolutely forever reason. I don't know exactly why,

0:24:07.160 --> 0:24:10.560
<v Speaker 2>but nobody on the web was getting any starts and

0:24:10.640 --> 0:24:13.240
<v Speaker 2>I definitely wasn't. So I only played two events in

0:24:13.240 --> 0:24:19.160
<v Speaker 2>the fall. I got into my rookie year. I got

0:24:19.160 --> 0:24:21.479
<v Speaker 2>into Sanderson Farms, which is a half point event, and

0:24:21.520 --> 0:24:25.480
<v Speaker 2>I got into RSM Sea Island, So it's two events

0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:28.000
<v Speaker 2>in the fall. I missed both cuts. I only got

0:24:28.040 --> 0:24:30.040
<v Speaker 2>in two events on the West Coast. I got into

0:24:30.119 --> 0:24:34.960
<v Speaker 2>Palm Springs on a sponsor invite because they had to

0:24:34.960 --> 0:24:37.280
<v Speaker 2>give the last of the corn ferry guys a spot,

0:24:37.320 --> 0:24:37.960
<v Speaker 2>so I got there.

0:24:38.240 --> 0:24:39.720
<v Speaker 3>And I got into Pebble Beach, which.

0:24:39.520 --> 0:24:41.760
<v Speaker 2>Everyone gets into because it's a big field with three

0:24:41.760 --> 0:24:42.640
<v Speaker 2>courses and.

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<v Speaker 1>You're playing celebrity that yeah, yeah, exactly, so I exactly.

0:24:48.000 --> 0:24:50.439
<v Speaker 2>I played in two proms, so four events through the

0:24:50.440 --> 0:24:53.520
<v Speaker 2>West Coast Swing, and I made a cut at Pebble,

0:24:53.520 --> 0:24:54.360
<v Speaker 2>but I finished.

0:24:54.119 --> 0:24:59.680
<v Speaker 3>Like last so through like February, and then I didn't.

0:24:59.440 --> 0:25:01.000
<v Speaker 2>I saw it was bttom in the web list because

0:25:01.000 --> 0:25:03.119
<v Speaker 2>I started the bottom made one cut, and then I

0:25:03.160 --> 0:25:06.280
<v Speaker 2>didn't get anything in Florida. That's another four weeks off,

0:25:06.760 --> 0:25:11.639
<v Speaker 2>and I finally got into Puerto Rico, which is a

0:25:11.640 --> 0:25:14.439
<v Speaker 2>half point event again, and I think I got into

0:25:14.800 --> 0:25:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Valero maybe. So I had like six events through like March,

0:25:21.320 --> 0:25:24.760
<v Speaker 2>which is just brutal and when you only made one cut.

0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:27.439
<v Speaker 2>So by the time I could actually start playing, I

0:25:27.440 --> 0:25:29.720
<v Speaker 2>didn't play back to back weeks on tour until after

0:25:29.760 --> 0:25:34.080
<v Speaker 2>the US opened, which is people don't realize that from

0:25:34.119 --> 0:25:35.560
<v Speaker 2>the outside, Like if you don't play well in the

0:25:35.560 --> 0:25:38.720
<v Speaker 2>fall and that web out of that corn ferry membership,

0:25:38.720 --> 0:25:40.120
<v Speaker 2>like you can drop a long ways or you can

0:25:40.480 --> 0:25:41.840
<v Speaker 2>rise a long ways to gets you in a ton

0:25:41.880 --> 0:25:45.679
<v Speaker 2>of events where it's too bad that I don't know

0:25:45.720 --> 0:25:47.360
<v Speaker 2>what the answer is. I'm not smart enough to figure

0:25:47.359 --> 0:25:49.000
<v Speaker 2>out what the answer is. You get more playing opportunities,

0:25:49.040 --> 0:25:50.960
<v Speaker 2>but if you get behind the ball early, it is

0:25:51.080 --> 0:25:52.159
<v Speaker 2>really tough to get out of it.

0:25:52.359 --> 0:25:56.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then and then you're it's it's mid June

0:25:56.160 --> 0:25:59.320
<v Speaker 1>or late June, and you're so far down. You got

0:25:59.320 --> 0:26:01.879
<v Speaker 1>so much pressure. Every time you may make a starts

0:26:01.960 --> 0:26:04.560
<v Speaker 1>like I better play really well. I gotta I've got

0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:06.800
<v Speaker 1>to get three hundred and fifty fed X Cup points

0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:11.800
<v Speaker 1>and exactly five eight ten starts. It's I mean, it's

0:26:11.800 --> 0:26:15.680
<v Speaker 1>interesting because you've got all these like you've got past

0:26:15.760 --> 0:26:19.680
<v Speaker 1>champion statuses that pull in, and you've got the medicals

0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:21.960
<v Speaker 1>and you know, I know, like this year that we

0:26:22.000 --> 0:26:25.639
<v Speaker 1>saw fields that had like eighteen medical guys and it

0:26:25.760 --> 0:26:27.960
<v Speaker 1>and it's even you know, you're even got guys with

0:26:28.000 --> 0:26:30.800
<v Speaker 1>full status that are having trouble getting into events, you know,

0:26:30.880 --> 0:26:34.240
<v Speaker 1>And it's a it's an interesting situation because you just

0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:39.160
<v Speaker 1>have there are so many guys with some sort of status.

0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:39.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:26:39.600 --> 0:26:42.280
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how many actually categories there are on

0:26:42.440 --> 0:26:43.560
<v Speaker 3>the PDO Tour like.

0:26:43.600 --> 0:26:48.399
<v Speaker 2>Exemption or whatever, but there's a ton. I don't know

0:26:48.440 --> 0:26:50.639
<v Speaker 2>if there's too many. I don't know how to make

0:26:50.680 --> 0:26:51.200
<v Speaker 2>it more fair.

0:26:51.240 --> 0:26:52.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how to get my.

0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:59.359
<v Speaker 2>More guys more starts, but it's not easy, and the

0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:02.120
<v Speaker 2>answer is better, But what if everybody plays better, then

0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:06.840
<v Speaker 2>that's it's still unfair to somebody. So I wish I

0:27:06.880 --> 0:27:09.800
<v Speaker 2>knew the answer. If you made fields bigger, if you

0:27:09.840 --> 0:27:13.600
<v Speaker 2>because you know you have daylight for daylight problems for

0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:14.359
<v Speaker 2>for half the time.

0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:18.800
<v Speaker 3>So you go to two courses on some events. It's tough.

0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:22.760
<v Speaker 2>It's it's a lot harder once you can keep it's

0:27:22.800 --> 0:27:24.320
<v Speaker 2>harder to keep your card.

0:27:25.680 --> 0:27:26.480
<v Speaker 3>It's harder to get.

0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:27.919
<v Speaker 2>On the tour than to keep your card, but it's

0:27:27.960 --> 0:27:30.640
<v Speaker 2>even harder to keep your card the first year. Once

0:27:30.680 --> 0:27:32.240
<v Speaker 2>you can do that, then you can set your schedule

0:27:32.280 --> 0:27:33.560
<v Speaker 2>a little bit and you already know what you're doing

0:27:33.560 --> 0:27:37.159
<v Speaker 2>and you can kind of plan it around and be okay.

0:27:37.200 --> 0:27:38.639
<v Speaker 3>It's the hardest thing in the world, is rookie to

0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:39.240
<v Speaker 3>keep your card.

0:27:39.720 --> 0:27:41.680
<v Speaker 1>And then if you win, it's really hard to lose

0:27:41.720 --> 0:27:42.120
<v Speaker 1>your card.

0:27:43.440 --> 0:27:46.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, then you get into you get into all

0:27:46.760 --> 0:27:47.639
<v Speaker 2>the invites, you get in.

0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:50.240
<v Speaker 3>Some bigger stuff. I call it the PGA Tour and

0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:51.359
<v Speaker 3>the PGB Tour.

0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:54.240
<v Speaker 2>The PGA Tour is top fifty in the world where

0:27:54.280 --> 0:27:58.280
<v Speaker 2>you get in all the majors, You get into the WGCs.

0:27:58.680 --> 0:28:00.440
<v Speaker 3>I mean that is really you. She get in the

0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:02.119
<v Speaker 3>top fifty. It's hard to drop out of the top fifty.

0:28:03.880 --> 0:28:06.280
<v Speaker 2>You can cruise and hang in there for a long time.

0:28:06.920 --> 0:28:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Now it's really hard to crack that top twenty. You

0:28:09.040 --> 0:28:10.480
<v Speaker 2>got to be really golf in your ball. But you

0:28:10.520 --> 0:28:13.159
<v Speaker 2>see a lot of guys hanging between thirty and fifty

0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:17.919
<v Speaker 2>for a long time, you know, and that's it's just

0:28:17.960 --> 0:28:20.040
<v Speaker 2>hard to be. The other thing is, if you're a

0:28:20.040 --> 0:28:24.280
<v Speaker 2>guy like me as a journeyman, if you I have

0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:25.199
<v Speaker 2>the divisor of.

0:28:25.200 --> 0:28:26.960
<v Speaker 3>The world rankings, I don't really know how it works,

0:28:27.400 --> 0:28:28.520
<v Speaker 3>but I have fifty.

0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:30.919
<v Speaker 2>We're always playing every event we can to keep our

0:28:30.920 --> 0:28:32.000
<v Speaker 2>status and to keep going.

0:28:32.440 --> 0:28:35.119
<v Speaker 3>So now our divisor's fully maxed out.

0:28:35.440 --> 0:28:37.240
<v Speaker 2>Or maybe there's some guy who only has forty events

0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:39.120
<v Speaker 2>on there, so he's devising by less events and he

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:40.240
<v Speaker 2>gets more points per event.

0:28:41.120 --> 0:28:44.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and there, and he is a floor in some

0:28:44.360 --> 0:28:46.520
<v Speaker 1>of those events. Like say he's a guy that plays

0:28:46.520 --> 0:28:49.920
<v Speaker 1>a hero and like automatically gets the equivalent of a

0:28:50.040 --> 0:28:52.960
<v Speaker 1>top fifty in a regular event.

0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:55.360
<v Speaker 2>Right, which is easy to bitch and moan about when

0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:56.120
<v Speaker 2>you're on the outside.

0:28:56.120 --> 0:28:58.240
<v Speaker 3>But if I get there as soon as I get there,

0:28:58.640 --> 0:28:58.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm like.

0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:01.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is great, this is totally fair, and you

0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:03.040
<v Speaker 2>are making all the money and you're doing whatever you want.

0:29:03.120 --> 0:29:05.480
<v Speaker 3>And he satisfied contracts, and like.

0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:09.880
<v Speaker 2>I get it's I don't I don't know how to

0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:12.360
<v Speaker 2>change his system. I know the tour is working on

0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:14.960
<v Speaker 2>revising the world ranking system to make it more.

0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:19.520
<v Speaker 3>Pg T or heavy or I guess more equals what

0:29:19.520 --> 0:29:20.040
<v Speaker 3>they're trying to do.

0:29:20.080 --> 0:29:22.400
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of guys maybe who play other tours,

0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 2>who are getting more points in some events that maybe

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:29.400
<v Speaker 2>just don't quite add up. I know that's kind of

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:31.440
<v Speaker 2>been an off and on squabble. It's kind of fun

0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:33.160
<v Speaker 2>to see on social media when somebody calls out a

0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:35.200
<v Speaker 2>year tour player, a guy from you know, plays at

0:29:35.280 --> 0:29:38.320
<v Speaker 2>Japan too, or something like that. But I always enjoy those.

0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:42.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, you know how, I'm not smart enough.

0:29:42.920 --> 0:29:46.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm not the expert, but I know that, Like, here's

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:48.080
<v Speaker 2>a great answance is Nick Taylor won the Pebble Beach

0:29:48.280 --> 0:29:49.280
<v Speaker 2>Invite that's whatever.

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:51.640
<v Speaker 3>A couple months ago. It was ranked like two hundred

0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:54.600
<v Speaker 3>and fiftieth in the world, and it kept his card

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:59.000
<v Speaker 3>for five previous seasons. On two or the one win. Like, man,

0:29:59.080 --> 0:30:00.120
<v Speaker 3>that's pretty hard to do.

0:30:00.960 --> 0:30:02.760
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't like lighting it up every week, you know,

0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:04.920
<v Speaker 2>and he would maybe finished one, you know, around one

0:30:04.960 --> 0:30:06.000
<v Speaker 2>hundred and one twenty.

0:30:05.720 --> 0:30:06.800
<v Speaker 3>Five for a couple of those years.

0:30:06.800 --> 0:30:09.680
<v Speaker 2>But man, I'd be hard pressed if some guys more

0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 2>consistent for that over five years. It was all the

0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:14.640
<v Speaker 2>way down to two fifty in a world, so little

0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:16.520
<v Speaker 2>things like that where I think that hopefully they fix

0:30:16.600 --> 0:30:19.840
<v Speaker 2>it and maybe make it more player's.

0:30:19.480 --> 0:30:23.480
<v Speaker 3>Not the right word, but maybe better for a guy

0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:23.760
<v Speaker 3>like me.

0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:27.600
<v Speaker 1>This is a question I always think about this a

0:30:27.640 --> 0:30:33.640
<v Speaker 1>ton is as a player, do you admire your peers

0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 1>that are seemingly always in the mix but win very

0:30:37.360 --> 0:30:41.720
<v Speaker 1>little or the guys that you know win a lot

0:30:42.000 --> 0:30:44.920
<v Speaker 1>when they but they aren't necessarily they're guys that kind

0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:47.560
<v Speaker 1>of pop up and win, but then they're you know,

0:30:47.600 --> 0:30:48.840
<v Speaker 1>they might miss some cuts.

0:30:48.880 --> 0:30:52.480
<v Speaker 2>And so it's weird how the PG tour works out,

0:30:52.560 --> 0:30:57.560
<v Speaker 2>so it doesn't actually give you bonuses for being consistent,

0:30:58.200 --> 0:31:01.040
<v Speaker 2>Like if you just finished consistent fifty to twentieth, it

0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:02.760
<v Speaker 2>really doesn't get you that far on tour. You need

0:31:02.760 --> 0:31:05.600
<v Speaker 2>like top five, top tens are good, but you'd really

0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:07.760
<v Speaker 2>need like top fives and wins are.

0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:09.880
<v Speaker 3>Obviously through the roof or even that top two or three.

0:31:09.960 --> 0:31:13.080
<v Speaker 2>So I think it's really impressive to have like ten

0:31:13.160 --> 0:31:16.560
<v Speaker 2>top twenty fives in a year, or if you have

0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:20.080
<v Speaker 2>like seven or eight top tens in a year is awesome.

0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:23.000
<v Speaker 3>But maybe you don't crack it.

0:31:23.080 --> 0:31:23.280
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:31:23.360 --> 0:31:25.240
<v Speaker 2>It's it's really hard to win. It takes some luck,

0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:29.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, it takes a bounce here there, You got

0:31:29.280 --> 0:31:31.560
<v Speaker 2>to make a pun at the right time, and sometimes

0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:33.480
<v Speaker 2>it just doesn't happen, and you can't. The harder you

0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:36.760
<v Speaker 2>push for that, you know, or you can't naturally try

0:31:36.800 --> 0:31:41.000
<v Speaker 2>and win a golf for I guess, so I'm impressive

0:31:41.000 --> 0:31:43.320
<v Speaker 2>the guys who are consistent, who really weak in and

0:31:43.400 --> 0:31:48.000
<v Speaker 2>week out or around they play tough courses. Well, those

0:31:48.040 --> 0:31:50.240
<v Speaker 2>guys who can kind of play any golf course in

0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 2>any condition or are more impressive than me than maybe

0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:56.200
<v Speaker 2>a guy who wins like two twice a year, wins

0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:58.760
<v Speaker 2>like once a year all the time, but just kind

0:31:58.800 --> 0:32:02.040
<v Speaker 2>of never it's like either he's hotter, he's cold. I

0:32:02.080 --> 0:32:04.080
<v Speaker 2>think it's more impressive to play a good golf week

0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:06.640
<v Speaker 2>in and week out, but the tour doesn't really reward

0:32:06.680 --> 0:32:07.400
<v Speaker 2>that yeah.

0:32:07.440 --> 0:32:10.960
<v Speaker 1>I I always think about like Louis U Sason with

0:32:11.560 --> 0:32:14.000
<v Speaker 1>him and majors, he's he's people are always going to

0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:16.520
<v Speaker 1>look he's gonna be like, oh no, PGA Tour wins,

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:19.880
<v Speaker 1>only one major win, you know, ten wins around the world.

0:32:20.320 --> 0:32:23.680
<v Speaker 1>But you think about like the last twelve years of majors,

0:32:23.680 --> 0:32:28.000
<v Speaker 1>he's been a factor in probably twelve to fifteen major

0:32:28.080 --> 0:32:29.040
<v Speaker 1>championships where.

0:32:29.160 --> 0:32:31.760
<v Speaker 2>He's finished second, and every one has any second players

0:32:31.760 --> 0:32:32.200
<v Speaker 2>as well.

0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:35.440
<v Speaker 1>It's like if a bounce goes one way or another way,

0:32:35.520 --> 0:32:38.880
<v Speaker 1>or putt falls, he's gonna he might have three majors.

0:32:39.040 --> 0:32:39.240
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:32:39.320 --> 0:32:42.560
<v Speaker 1>It's just a crazy thing about golf is especially now

0:32:42.600 --> 0:32:45.040
<v Speaker 1>we have this break, Like you know, you I feel

0:32:45.040 --> 0:32:48.680
<v Speaker 1>like everybody in golf media, including myself, has been looking

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:52.040
<v Speaker 1>back at like historic tournaments and you just start to

0:32:52.040 --> 0:32:54.240
<v Speaker 1>see these guys that pop up all the time, and

0:32:54.280 --> 0:32:57.000
<v Speaker 1>you're like, you know, this guy's got this many wins,

0:32:57.040 --> 0:33:00.880
<v Speaker 1>but this guy was way more present and more big

0:33:00.920 --> 0:33:04.719
<v Speaker 1>events and more big moments at times. You played your

0:33:04.760 --> 0:33:08.720
<v Speaker 1>first majors or your career last year, what was that

0:33:08.800 --> 0:33:10.600
<v Speaker 1>like compared to your regular tour event.

0:33:13.640 --> 0:33:16.480
<v Speaker 2>I'll say the Open Championship was the coolest event I've

0:33:16.480 --> 0:33:17.320
<v Speaker 2>ever played in.

0:33:17.320 --> 0:33:23.240
<v Speaker 3>By Miles, the vibe over there, I shouldn't say the vibe, the.

0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:28.480
<v Speaker 2>Feelings over there, the crowds we had on Tuesday Wednesday,

0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:33.760
<v Speaker 2>we flew in, got their Monday afternoon, you know, kind

0:33:33.760 --> 0:33:35.920
<v Speaker 2>of unpacked and went out for like a late ninth

0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:38.040
<v Speaker 2>hole and the sun was up at like ten thirty.

0:33:38.040 --> 0:33:39.160
<v Speaker 3>We're playing in eighteenth Pole.

0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:41.760
<v Speaker 2>It was back at Northern Ireland for the first time

0:33:41.800 --> 0:33:44.360
<v Speaker 2>in fifty or sixty years, an incredible golf course. Like

0:33:44.760 --> 0:33:47.480
<v Speaker 2>for me, that was my first time ever crossing in

0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:49.239
<v Speaker 2>the Atlantic. I had never been over there before, so

0:33:49.760 --> 0:33:54.480
<v Speaker 2>like it was just like mystical, magical, amazing experience. I

0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:56.040
<v Speaker 2>didn't play very well, but I think it was just

0:33:56.040 --> 0:33:58.360
<v Speaker 2>too caught up and having fun. Like I had a

0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:00.600
<v Speaker 2>four iron to like forty feet on a tough hole

0:34:00.640 --> 0:34:02.479
<v Speaker 2>and they all clapped like it was awesome.

0:34:02.560 --> 0:34:04.959
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, oh, yeah, you guys appreciate this. Where you

0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:07.200
<v Speaker 3>like stuff three When I'm a part five on tour

0:34:07.240 --> 0:34:10.040
<v Speaker 3>and no one cares, it's like sweet.

0:34:10.280 --> 0:34:13.359
<v Speaker 2>So like that experience for me was incredible. There's more

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:16.520
<v Speaker 2>people like Beth Page was fine. There's a lot of

0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:18.799
<v Speaker 2>people out there and it's a big tournament, but like

0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:22.360
<v Speaker 2>when you're cruising around in thirtieth and I think I

0:34:22.400 --> 0:34:26.359
<v Speaker 2>eventually finished. I shot a million on Sunday, but it's

0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:27.960
<v Speaker 2>just more people around.

0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:30.399
<v Speaker 3>I didn't feel like the PJA was all.

0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:33.799
<v Speaker 2>That special, which it's probably terrible of me to say,

0:34:33.800 --> 0:34:35.680
<v Speaker 2>but like the players of me and figure in the PGA.

0:34:35.800 --> 0:34:42.040
<v Speaker 2>But the US Open at Pebble was awesome, but I

0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:44.080
<v Speaker 2>feel like they didn't let them any fans in compared

0:34:44.080 --> 0:34:46.719
<v Speaker 2>to what they could have. Maybe logistics was kind of

0:34:46.719 --> 0:34:49.920
<v Speaker 2>a pain in the ass around Pebble because it's just

0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:50.840
<v Speaker 2>such a tight area.

0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:52.840
<v Speaker 3>Like I rented a house.

0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:54.319
<v Speaker 2>Not far from the I mean, like I do every

0:34:54.400 --> 0:34:57.160
<v Speaker 2>year for at and T and it took me an

0:34:57.200 --> 0:34:58.560
<v Speaker 2>hour to get to the golf course.

0:34:58.600 --> 0:35:01.799
<v Speaker 3>Like speed forw Seneticker all had to hop out of

0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:02.680
<v Speaker 3>their cars.

0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:06.040
<v Speaker 2>Jump a fence into the property of the golf course,

0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:08.000
<v Speaker 2>catch a shuttle to get to where it's going. Only

0:35:08.160 --> 0:35:09.520
<v Speaker 2>when when I got to the golf course only in

0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:11.919
<v Speaker 2>thirty minutes to warm up on my first round because

0:35:11.920 --> 0:35:15.400
<v Speaker 2>it was so like a bust had like route like

0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:17.320
<v Speaker 2>crashed or something like on the only route end of

0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:19.200
<v Speaker 2>the golf course and it was a mess.

0:35:19.200 --> 0:35:19.400
<v Speaker 3>So that.

0:35:19.680 --> 0:35:23.960
<v Speaker 2>But Pebble Beach is my favorite place on Earth for golf,

0:35:25.560 --> 0:35:27.160
<v Speaker 2>and I think it's just me. And we had perfect

0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:28.520
<v Speaker 2>weather that week for most.

0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:28.719
<v Speaker 3>Of the week.

0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:32.360
<v Speaker 2>But I just felt like the US Open was my

0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:34.000
<v Speaker 2>first one. I was so happy to do, but I

0:35:34.000 --> 0:35:37.319
<v Speaker 2>just felt like it'd be bigger and it's like better,

0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:39.080
<v Speaker 2>Like everything's good about it, but I just felt like

0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:42.440
<v Speaker 2>it'd be more. I would have more feelings all the

0:35:42.440 --> 0:35:44.160
<v Speaker 2>way around the golf course the way I had feelings

0:35:44.160 --> 0:35:46.200
<v Speaker 2>at the Open Championship all the way around the golf course.

0:35:46.760 --> 0:35:49.240
<v Speaker 1>Did was that it sounds like so like the Open.

0:35:49.719 --> 0:35:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Was that you played in one US Am? Was that

0:35:53.120 --> 0:35:55.879
<v Speaker 1>like when you played in the US Am when you're

0:35:55.880 --> 0:35:58.680
<v Speaker 1>a kid, like I feel like that would that would

0:35:58.719 --> 0:36:02.239
<v Speaker 1>be like an elevated experience almost absolutely?

0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:04.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well yeah, by far, I mean for a kid

0:36:04.000 --> 0:36:08.080
<v Speaker 2>who only really played on the West Coast, Yeah, to

0:36:08.080 --> 0:36:10.840
<v Speaker 2>play at Pinehurst and lay in US M, it was

0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:12.840
<v Speaker 2>you felt like, you know, was hitting pro v's in

0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:15.160
<v Speaker 2>the way Tree felt like a you know, a very

0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:18.600
<v Speaker 2>big time event, which it is. You know, I think

0:36:18.640 --> 0:36:20.440
<v Speaker 2>it's still super prestigious. I think it's one of my

0:36:20.480 --> 0:36:24.560
<v Speaker 2>favorite events, especially to watch now, but they do an

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:29.120
<v Speaker 2>unbelievable job without the history of it too is great

0:36:29.160 --> 0:36:32.399
<v Speaker 2>and I feel like the Open Championship has more of

0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:35.920
<v Speaker 2>that feeling than certainly some of the majors over here.

0:36:36.840 --> 0:36:40.320
<v Speaker 1>Uh with the with the links goff and playing the Open.

0:36:40.800 --> 0:36:43.320
<v Speaker 1>Did you did you like the style of golf was?

0:36:43.400 --> 0:36:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Did it was it? Did it feel different and you

0:36:45.719 --> 0:36:49.240
<v Speaker 1>know than your regular tour tour golf?

0:36:50.200 --> 0:36:50.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, of course.

0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:52.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean most of the time here in the States,

0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:54.879
<v Speaker 2>we're just flying it to a number and it kind

0:36:54.880 --> 0:36:58.480
<v Speaker 2>of stays around that number. I love when the ball bounces,

0:37:00.000 --> 0:37:01.560
<v Speaker 2>the runoffs around the green. You hit so many different

0:37:01.560 --> 0:37:03.600
<v Speaker 2>shots around the greens. You can putt it or hybrid

0:37:03.640 --> 0:37:07.719
<v Speaker 2>it or you know. Sometimes over there there was enough

0:37:07.800 --> 0:37:09.520
<v Speaker 2>room and the greens were soft up where you could

0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:11.440
<v Speaker 2>lie it around the greens and spin it a little bit.

0:37:11.480 --> 0:37:16.520
<v Speaker 2>But the winds blow in different angles all the time.

0:37:17.440 --> 0:37:19.760
<v Speaker 2>There's just so many different options over there, which is

0:37:19.760 --> 0:37:22.680
<v Speaker 2>is awesome. I think it's I don't know if it

0:37:22.680 --> 0:37:26.560
<v Speaker 2>necessarily fits my golf the best, but I have a blast.

0:37:26.680 --> 0:37:28.280
<v Speaker 3>I have a blast. Thing you have to think around,

0:37:28.400 --> 0:37:30.320
<v Speaker 3>You have to think on every shot of there, where's

0:37:30.320 --> 0:37:30.719
<v Speaker 3>this all gon.

0:37:30.719 --> 0:37:33.520
<v Speaker 2>To run can it run into the bunker, because if

0:37:33.520 --> 0:37:35.239
<v Speaker 2>you hitting a bunker up there, you just have to

0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:39.279
<v Speaker 2>wedge it out. So I had a blast with it,

0:37:39.360 --> 0:37:42.399
<v Speaker 2>I hope. Unfortunately, I think it just got canceled, That's

0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:44.239
<v Speaker 2>what it sounds like. And I just qualified for it

0:37:44.280 --> 0:37:45.960
<v Speaker 2>again this year, which I was super excited for.

0:37:46.200 --> 0:37:48.479
<v Speaker 3>So I'm hoping I can.

0:37:48.360 --> 0:37:50.640
<v Speaker 2>Get over there and play play some more golf if

0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:52.160
<v Speaker 2>I continue to play well here in the States and

0:37:52.200 --> 0:37:54.279
<v Speaker 2>maybe get over there for two or three more events

0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:55.680
<v Speaker 2>a year, and I would really enjoy that.

0:37:56.000 --> 0:37:59.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, doing like that the Scottish Open before.

0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:01.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly.

0:38:01.080 --> 0:38:03.920
<v Speaker 2>You could do like this the Scottish and the Irish

0:38:04.000 --> 0:38:05.640
<v Speaker 2>or something like that, and play the Bridge as well.

0:38:05.640 --> 0:38:07.600
<v Speaker 3>It would be a really fun couple of weeks over

0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:08.120
<v Speaker 3>there for sure.

0:38:09.120 --> 0:38:12.359
<v Speaker 1>Talk about, you know, the difference when you're you talked

0:38:12.360 --> 0:38:15.280
<v Speaker 1>about how you're like at the PGA you're just plotting along,

0:38:15.760 --> 0:38:20.200
<v Speaker 1>uh in you know, in thirtieth and the difference inside

0:38:20.239 --> 0:38:23.359
<v Speaker 1>the rope feel at when you're when that's going on

0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:26.719
<v Speaker 1>versus when you're you know, contending, Like you had a

0:38:26.760 --> 0:38:29.000
<v Speaker 1>really good week at at the Players last year.

0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:36.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, no one's really at bath Page last year.

0:38:36.560 --> 0:38:37.880
<v Speaker 3>I think, yeah, it was probably like if I had

0:38:37.920 --> 0:38:39.680
<v Speaker 3>a good round on Sunday, I think, you know, maybe I.

0:38:39.680 --> 0:38:41.160
<v Speaker 2>Shoot even I could have moved up to like a

0:38:41.160 --> 0:38:43.359
<v Speaker 2>top toolt or something like that, so it would have been nice.

0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:49.440
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it's just I don't know, you feel like

0:38:50.600 --> 0:38:52.480
<v Speaker 3>you have to play perfect golf in that situation.

0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:54.239
<v Speaker 2>For me at bath Page last year, I could miss

0:38:54.280 --> 0:38:56.080
<v Speaker 2>a fair way because then I'd have to chip it out.

0:38:56.440 --> 0:38:58.040
<v Speaker 3>There's no way I could advance towards the green.

0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:02.439
<v Speaker 2>It was just like continue to just beat the crap

0:39:02.480 --> 0:39:06.320
<v Speaker 2>out of you for four days. And it was certainly

0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:09.160
<v Speaker 2>favored towards bombers that week, and I'm definitely not a bomber,

0:39:09.160 --> 0:39:09.839
<v Speaker 2>and there was just no.

0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:12.400
<v Speaker 3>Way around it the way you know, the rains came in.

0:39:12.480 --> 0:39:16.719
<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately, it was wet, it was cold. It was just

0:39:16.760 --> 0:39:19.080
<v Speaker 2>a kind of a bad combo for my golf game

0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:22.040
<v Speaker 2>that week, where and you're plotting along out there and you're.

0:39:21.880 --> 0:39:26.600
<v Speaker 3>Like, I don't know, there's no you don't have the

0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:27.239
<v Speaker 3>juices going.

0:39:27.280 --> 0:39:30.680
<v Speaker 2>Where at Sagrass you always feel like you can make

0:39:30.719 --> 0:39:34.239
<v Speaker 2>a birdie or you can get it going, you know,

0:39:34.280 --> 0:39:36.279
<v Speaker 2>and there's there's fans out there watching. I played with

0:39:36.320 --> 0:39:38.440
<v Speaker 2>Jim Ferick on Sunday at the Players we shot sixty

0:39:38.920 --> 0:39:41.000
<v Speaker 2>to four or five, I don't know which, maybe even

0:39:41.000 --> 0:39:44.239
<v Speaker 2>sixty three, you know, to only lose by one, and

0:39:44.280 --> 0:39:46.560
<v Speaker 2>it was incredible. You know, it's kind of his home

0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:49.640
<v Speaker 2>e vent He's been a h resident in that area

0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:51.919
<v Speaker 2>for a long time, so that was incredible to watch

0:39:52.000 --> 0:39:52.799
<v Speaker 2>him and be a part of that.

0:39:53.880 --> 0:39:58.320
<v Speaker 1>It's neat too because Rory wins that and Furic, who's

0:39:58.520 --> 0:40:01.600
<v Speaker 1>probably one of the shortest h on tour, finishes second.

0:40:01.920 --> 0:40:05.920
<v Speaker 1>And at beth Page I did a podcast with Jeff

0:40:05.920 --> 0:40:09.560
<v Speaker 1>Ogilvie before and he was like, listen, somebody whoever's going

0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:11.719
<v Speaker 1>to win here is going to be one of the

0:40:11.719 --> 0:40:13.960
<v Speaker 1>guys that flies at three hundred, because if you don't

0:40:13.960 --> 0:40:15.840
<v Speaker 1>fly at three hundred at beth Page, you don't have

0:40:15.880 --> 0:40:19.600
<v Speaker 1>a chance. And I think that's one of the you

0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:22.520
<v Speaker 1>hit on it a little bit with linkskoff Is. On

0:40:22.960 --> 0:40:26.319
<v Speaker 1>those types of courses, anybody, any type of player can

0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:28.719
<v Speaker 1>excel because you can use your advantages, and the same

0:40:28.760 --> 0:40:32.040
<v Speaker 1>thing for sawgrass, where you can win. Your power is

0:40:32.080 --> 0:40:34.719
<v Speaker 1>still obviously a huge advantage. Being able to hit it

0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:37.880
<v Speaker 1>three ten is always an advantage wherever you play. But

0:40:38.520 --> 0:40:41.680
<v Speaker 1>it also allows people that don't carry it three hundred

0:40:41.760 --> 0:40:42.680
<v Speaker 1>yards to have a chance.

0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:48.479
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, and I love that where I gain.

0:40:48.640 --> 0:40:50.960
<v Speaker 2>I think I'm like top twenty five right now and

0:40:51.239 --> 0:40:54.120
<v Speaker 2>driving strokesy and driving, and I very average in link

0:40:54.200 --> 0:40:57.560
<v Speaker 2>because courses like that where a lot of guys have

0:40:57.600 --> 0:40:59.040
<v Speaker 2>to hit a two iron off of tee or lay,

0:40:59.200 --> 0:41:00.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to hit my driver down there because they

0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:02.839
<v Speaker 2>hit it straighter and I can get it down there

0:41:02.880 --> 0:41:05.040
<v Speaker 2>further than a lot of guys where you know it

0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:05.839
<v Speaker 2>pinches in for them.

0:41:05.840 --> 0:41:07.400
<v Speaker 3>But I'm still gonna run it down.

0:41:07.239 --> 0:41:09.319
<v Speaker 2>There past them where they have to hit hybrid off

0:41:09.320 --> 0:41:13.239
<v Speaker 2>the t or something like that. But sawgrass makes you

0:41:13.760 --> 0:41:15.600
<v Speaker 2>think all the time, especially into the green. You have

0:41:15.640 --> 0:41:17.759
<v Speaker 2>to hit it in the right spots and all the

0:41:17.800 --> 0:41:20.959
<v Speaker 2>part fives are reachable, but there's trouble around them, which

0:41:20.960 --> 0:41:23.919
<v Speaker 2>I think is awesome instead of just you know, they're

0:41:23.960 --> 0:41:25.719
<v Speaker 2>pretty generous off to tea for the most part. And

0:41:25.719 --> 0:41:27.480
<v Speaker 2>then you have to make sure you position it properly

0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:28.799
<v Speaker 2>in the second shot. You have to miss on the

0:41:28.800 --> 0:41:30.920
<v Speaker 2>correct side to have a chance getting up and down,

0:41:30.920 --> 0:41:32.520
<v Speaker 2>because if you don't, you're not getting up and down

0:41:32.520 --> 0:41:35.239
<v Speaker 2>with sawgrass, which I think is great and that's why

0:41:36.360 --> 0:41:38.200
<v Speaker 2>anybody can win there. I mean, look through the years

0:41:38.200 --> 0:41:40.319
<v Speaker 2>of who's won, it's been you know Fred funk one

0:41:40.400 --> 0:41:42.319
<v Speaker 2>at what forty nine or something like that, Like that's

0:41:42.360 --> 0:41:46.360
<v Speaker 2>just incredible. Yeah, it's a perfect I think Sarga is

0:41:46.400 --> 0:41:48.080
<v Speaker 2>one of the best golf coart to play because anybody

0:41:48.080 --> 0:41:51.719
<v Speaker 2>can win. You know, you've seen Craig Perks is one

0:41:51.760 --> 0:41:54.439
<v Speaker 2>there and you know on tiger Woods and the best

0:41:54.440 --> 0:41:56.840
<v Speaker 2>of all time I've always had won there. So I

0:41:56.880 --> 0:42:00.360
<v Speaker 2>think it's especially when it plays against a little firm

0:42:01.239 --> 0:42:02.840
<v Speaker 2>that would be perfect.

0:42:03.360 --> 0:42:04.359
<v Speaker 3>If you have good weather that.

0:42:04.280 --> 0:42:05.799
<v Speaker 2>Week and a little bit of wind, it would just

0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:10.000
<v Speaker 2>play unbelievable that week. And I think that's why Fritish Open.

0:42:10.040 --> 0:42:11.839
<v Speaker 2>I won't say sometimes you get a fluke winner, but

0:42:12.600 --> 0:42:15.120
<v Speaker 2>you know you get guys who can hang around leaderboard

0:42:15.160 --> 0:42:16.919
<v Speaker 2>for a long time and plot their.

0:42:16.800 --> 0:42:18.600
<v Speaker 3>Way around if they're playing the correct type of goal.

0:42:19.200 --> 0:42:22.640
<v Speaker 1>What What are some of your other favorite courses that

0:42:22.719 --> 0:42:23.359
<v Speaker 1>you guys play.

0:42:24.600 --> 0:42:25.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm a big fan of Colonial.

0:42:28.200 --> 0:42:31.120
<v Speaker 2>It's fun, it's tree lined, greens are tiny, so you

0:42:31.160 --> 0:42:33.960
<v Speaker 2>have to you have to be pretty precise in the

0:42:34.000 --> 0:42:37.640
<v Speaker 2>greens there as well. You can't really overpower, so The

0:42:37.680 --> 0:42:39.080
<v Speaker 2>part with that is everyone hits it kind of the

0:42:39.120 --> 0:42:40.759
<v Speaker 2>same spots in the fairways, no matter what clip you're

0:42:40.800 --> 0:42:45.759
<v Speaker 2>hitting off the tea. But hilton Head's always fun. I mean,

0:42:45.760 --> 0:42:47.719
<v Speaker 2>I think DJ is leading through fifty four holes there

0:42:47.760 --> 0:42:49.719
<v Speaker 2>last year. So like a you know, a bomber can

0:42:49.760 --> 0:42:52.719
<v Speaker 2>play there versus ct Pan, who's you know, kind of

0:42:52.719 --> 0:42:53.800
<v Speaker 2>a short guy, you end up winning.

0:42:55.760 --> 0:42:58.040
<v Speaker 3>Anybody can compete. I like the Travelers is a great

0:42:58.040 --> 0:43:02.360
<v Speaker 3>golf course. I think you can get you know, everybody

0:43:02.360 --> 0:43:03.000
<v Speaker 3>can kind of compete.

0:43:03.040 --> 0:43:05.759
<v Speaker 2>Valast Bars one of my favorites in Tampa, especially when

0:43:05.800 --> 0:43:06.600
<v Speaker 2>it gets firm and fast.

0:43:06.600 --> 0:43:10.880
<v Speaker 3>I think eight under seven hundred one last year. I

0:43:10.920 --> 0:43:11.600
<v Speaker 3>think those are.

0:43:11.600 --> 0:43:14.399
<v Speaker 2>A ton of riv is. I didn't think I could

0:43:14.400 --> 0:43:19.759
<v Speaker 2>compete at riv but it got firm and the sun

0:43:19.840 --> 0:43:22.160
<v Speaker 2>came out and the wind blew, and that made it

0:43:22.200 --> 0:43:24.799
<v Speaker 2>awesome because you had to play the bounce a little bit.

0:43:24.840 --> 0:43:27.279
<v Speaker 2>You had to control your golf ball and the green.

0:43:27.280 --> 0:43:29.279
<v Speaker 2>You couldn't just fly it to wherever. So it's a

0:43:29.320 --> 0:43:32.200
<v Speaker 2>long golf course for me. But when the ball starts

0:43:32.239 --> 0:43:34.200
<v Speaker 2>running out, then you can play the bounce and you

0:43:34.239 --> 0:43:36.880
<v Speaker 2>have to control your trajectory a little bit better, and

0:43:36.880 --> 0:43:40.000
<v Speaker 2>and and really fitted around the golf course, which makes

0:43:40.000 --> 0:43:43.280
<v Speaker 2>it a lot more fun versus just bombing it and

0:43:43.480 --> 0:43:46.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, hopefully you bomb it again. So some of

0:43:46.960 --> 0:43:49.120
<v Speaker 2>those are really fun. I like anything that bounces a

0:43:49.160 --> 0:43:53.920
<v Speaker 2>little bit. Volerio is actually not a bad golf course here.

0:43:53.960 --> 0:43:57.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's a bad rap. But if it

0:43:57.640 --> 0:43:59.560
<v Speaker 2>bounces a little bit, if the wind blows of Volo,

0:43:59.600 --> 0:44:00.359
<v Speaker 2>it's good of course.

0:44:00.600 --> 0:44:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. That I feel like you get some of the

0:44:03.120 --> 0:44:06.000
<v Speaker 1>craziest weather of Vallero, Like, oh.

0:44:06.040 --> 0:44:08.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you'll get it all absolutely for sure.

0:44:08.160 --> 0:44:11.239
<v Speaker 2>Some I mean you'll get some massive hailstorms and you

0:44:11.239 --> 0:44:13.839
<v Speaker 2>feel like tornado's coming, and then you know, I think

0:44:14.080 --> 0:44:16.120
<v Speaker 2>last year was beautiful in like eighty five all weeks.

0:44:16.160 --> 0:44:17.360
<v Speaker 3>So it's a little bit of mix everything.

0:44:18.000 --> 0:44:21.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The uh that course you can make big numbers too,

0:44:21.680 --> 0:44:24.799
<v Speaker 1>with that ship all around it all over the place.

0:44:24.960 --> 0:44:27.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're doing a better job of clearing that out too,

0:44:27.400 --> 0:44:28.880
<v Speaker 2>So it's a little more playable than it has been

0:44:28.920 --> 0:44:29.400
<v Speaker 2>in the past.

0:44:29.400 --> 0:44:32.279
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, if you're not driving it well or you're

0:44:32.280 --> 0:44:33.040
<v Speaker 3>gonna shoot a million.

0:44:33.480 --> 0:44:37.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So what are your your best friends growing up?

0:44:37.560 --> 0:44:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Is your caddye Gino, Yeah, getting he's gotta do the

0:44:41.800 --> 0:44:44.000
<v Speaker 1>wrap on on social media.

0:44:44.360 --> 0:44:47.640
<v Speaker 2>So icon, Yeah, it's pretty funny. I mean it's it's

0:44:47.680 --> 0:44:49.560
<v Speaker 2>an outlet for him just to kind of be himself.

0:44:49.640 --> 0:44:52.879
<v Speaker 3>And he's he's a goofball. He has a ton of fun.

0:44:52.880 --> 0:44:54.680
<v Speaker 2>He comes up with crazy ideas all the time and

0:44:55.840 --> 0:44:57.360
<v Speaker 2>most time he just throws them out there for the

0:44:57.360 --> 0:44:58.720
<v Speaker 2>world and they think it's pretty funny.

0:44:58.800 --> 0:45:01.040
<v Speaker 3>So we were like, he grew up.

0:45:01.080 --> 0:45:02.520
<v Speaker 2>He's four years older than me, but he grew up

0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:04.600
<v Speaker 2>on the loose in side of the river outside of

0:45:04.640 --> 0:45:06.920
<v Speaker 2>where I should say in Lewiston. And he was a

0:45:06.920 --> 0:45:09.239
<v Speaker 2>good player, as they say TV. He was a good

0:45:09.239 --> 0:45:10.000
<v Speaker 2>player in his own right.

0:45:11.120 --> 0:45:17.200
<v Speaker 3>He went he got his PGM degree. Uh yeah, that's right,

0:45:17.200 --> 0:45:18.440
<v Speaker 3>you have professional golf management.

0:45:18.480 --> 0:45:21.279
<v Speaker 2>And he went to worked in Saholly for a bit

0:45:21.400 --> 0:45:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Seattle and realized he didn't like golden shirts and didn't

0:45:23.840 --> 0:45:25.400
<v Speaker 2>get to play as much as he flagged.

0:45:25.120 --> 0:45:27.239
<v Speaker 3>And so he went and got a desk job back

0:45:27.280 --> 0:45:31.120
<v Speaker 3>home and his wife ended up getting a pretty good job.

0:45:31.160 --> 0:45:34.200
<v Speaker 2>And when I got out on the web tour, he's like, Hey,

0:45:34.239 --> 0:45:35.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna come caddy for you. And I'm like, you

0:45:35.800 --> 0:45:38.839
<v Speaker 2>are crazy because he don't make any money. Uh, you know,

0:45:39.760 --> 0:45:41.279
<v Speaker 2>I have no idea how good I am out here.

0:45:41.320 --> 0:45:42.799
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what's going to go on, and so.

0:45:42.719 --> 0:45:44.319
<v Speaker 3>He stuck by you by my side.

0:45:44.360 --> 0:45:47.359
<v Speaker 2>We're on our year six and it's been really fun

0:45:47.360 --> 0:45:48.680
<v Speaker 2>to have him out there. It's nice to have a

0:45:48.719 --> 0:45:53.200
<v Speaker 2>guy who cares about me more than just you know,

0:45:53.280 --> 0:45:54.200
<v Speaker 2>the golf shots I hit.

0:45:55.880 --> 0:45:58.480
<v Speaker 3>Actually married my wife and I last December.

0:45:58.120 --> 0:46:01.160
<v Speaker 2>So that was a lot of fun to have him, uh,

0:46:01.480 --> 0:46:04.680
<v Speaker 2>to be a part of that and just been a

0:46:04.719 --> 0:46:07.640
<v Speaker 2>super great guy who's who cares about me a lot.

0:46:07.680 --> 0:46:09.960
<v Speaker 2>And I'm lucky to have him. And he does a

0:46:09.960 --> 0:46:11.440
<v Speaker 2>great job on the bag as well. I mean he's

0:46:11.440 --> 0:46:13.480
<v Speaker 2>not just he's not just a funny guy. Actually can

0:46:13.880 --> 0:46:15.520
<v Speaker 2>add them subtracks and numbers for me too.

0:46:16.120 --> 0:46:19.080
<v Speaker 1>I I mean, being a good player probably helps too,

0:46:19.200 --> 0:46:21.520
<v Speaker 1>and having known you for a long time helps because

0:46:21.560 --> 0:46:25.279
<v Speaker 1>he knows your game. And obviously any keddy when you

0:46:25.320 --> 0:46:27.080
<v Speaker 1>carry for somebody for a long time, you're going to

0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:32.120
<v Speaker 1>know their game. But I imagine that it's really nice having

0:46:32.200 --> 0:46:35.480
<v Speaker 1>somebody that you can talk to about anything you know

0:46:35.600 --> 0:46:38.920
<v Speaker 1>from like pert because it's like you know, if you

0:46:39.080 --> 0:46:41.800
<v Speaker 1>if it's just as strictly a work relationship, then it's

0:46:41.920 --> 0:46:45.360
<v Speaker 1>hard to get your mind off things when a rounds

0:46:45.400 --> 0:46:46.080
<v Speaker 1>going one way.

0:46:47.280 --> 0:46:50.280
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, and he's I mean we come up with everything

0:46:50.320 --> 0:46:52.400
<v Speaker 2>to talk about. I mean very not often when we

0:46:52.440 --> 0:46:54.799
<v Speaker 2>talk about golf out there unless we have to be

0:46:54.920 --> 0:46:57.160
<v Speaker 2>so just nice, you know, he's.

0:46:58.480 --> 0:46:59.440
<v Speaker 3>He's super close.

0:46:59.200 --> 0:47:02.120
<v Speaker 2>To my wife. We have a lot, you know, all

0:47:02.120 --> 0:47:04.279
<v Speaker 2>of our friends are kind of the same, so we

0:47:04.280 --> 0:47:07.400
<v Speaker 2>we really enjoy chit chatting about that.

0:47:07.440 --> 0:47:08.799
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it's it's nice because.

0:47:08.520 --> 0:47:11.600
<v Speaker 2>He he knows how I'm feeling, like I don't have

0:47:11.680 --> 0:47:13.080
<v Speaker 2>We don't have to talk about it. He can kind

0:47:13.080 --> 0:47:15.000
<v Speaker 2>of tell about how I'm feeling and which way we're

0:47:15.000 --> 0:47:17.120
<v Speaker 2>going to go and.

0:47:17.480 --> 0:47:18.920
<v Speaker 3>Under the gun like he can.

0:47:19.080 --> 0:47:21.200
<v Speaker 2>It kind of lets me go a little bit more

0:47:21.200 --> 0:47:23.160
<v Speaker 2>and doesn't hold the reins as much, which is always

0:47:23.280 --> 0:47:27.839
<v Speaker 2>nice and just a nice It's great to have your

0:47:27.840 --> 0:47:30.720
<v Speaker 2>friend on the bag when you know, sometimes you shoot

0:47:30.719 --> 0:47:31.920
<v Speaker 2>eighty and you can laugh about it.

0:47:31.880 --> 0:47:33.680
<v Speaker 3>And other times when you're trying to win the golf tournament, is.

0:47:33.640 --> 0:47:35.040
<v Speaker 2>Really nice to look next to you and know the

0:47:35.040 --> 0:47:37.680
<v Speaker 2>guys have as much fun as you are, and you

0:47:37.719 --> 0:47:41.680
<v Speaker 2>know you kind of in this together and just yeah,

0:47:41.840 --> 0:47:44.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I could do it with a business relationship.

0:47:44.320 --> 0:47:45.880
<v Speaker 2>I would always need a friend out here because you

0:47:45.960 --> 0:47:46.960
<v Speaker 2>spend so much time with him.

0:47:46.960 --> 0:47:48.799
<v Speaker 3>You spend you know.

0:47:48.880 --> 0:47:51.239
<v Speaker 2>Six eight hours a day, four or five days a week,

0:47:51.320 --> 0:47:52.960
<v Speaker 2>and that's more than I spend with my wife when

0:47:52.960 --> 0:47:53.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm on the road.

0:47:53.560 --> 0:47:56.200
<v Speaker 3>So you need a guy. You get along with the guy.

0:47:56.200 --> 0:47:57.480
<v Speaker 3>You're gonna have fun with the guy. You can keep

0:47:57.520 --> 0:47:58.480
<v Speaker 3>it light and fresh.

0:47:59.400 --> 0:48:00.680
<v Speaker 2>I know a lot of time, it's easy for it

0:48:00.719 --> 0:48:02.000
<v Speaker 2>to get stale, and that's why you see a lot

0:48:02.000 --> 0:48:02.719
<v Speaker 2>of guys break up.

0:48:02.680 --> 0:48:04.719
<v Speaker 3>After a year or two or three years. It's just like, man,

0:48:04.760 --> 0:48:05.799
<v Speaker 3>I just need something new.

0:48:05.840 --> 0:48:09.600
<v Speaker 2>Because we've talked about everything we could, and we FaceTime

0:48:09.640 --> 0:48:11.719
<v Speaker 2>each other almost every day during this quarantine of what

0:48:11.760 --> 0:48:14.560
<v Speaker 2>he's doing, what how his family's doing, with this kid's doing.

0:48:14.640 --> 0:48:18.080
<v Speaker 3>So like yesterday he played left handed.

0:48:18.480 --> 0:48:21.319
<v Speaker 2>H tried to I set a line at one hundred

0:48:21.320 --> 0:48:24.160
<v Speaker 2>and ten and he played left handed shot one o six.

0:48:24.239 --> 0:48:25.640
<v Speaker 3>So he snipped me there.

0:48:25.680 --> 0:48:27.759
<v Speaker 2>And we always make little bets back and forth on

0:48:27.800 --> 0:48:29.799
<v Speaker 2>everything we do, so it's it's a lot of fun.

0:48:30.320 --> 0:48:33.160
<v Speaker 1>Do you as a player, I always wonder do you

0:48:33.360 --> 0:48:36.879
<v Speaker 1>ever like when you're standing over a pot or a shot,

0:48:37.120 --> 0:48:39.640
<v Speaker 1>do you ever think like, uh, if I do this

0:48:39.920 --> 0:48:41.920
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna make a lot more money than if I

0:48:42.000 --> 0:48:45.040
<v Speaker 1>do this has that like I always.

0:48:44.880 --> 0:48:48.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, we talk about it because yeah, I don't know

0:48:48.760 --> 0:48:50.520
<v Speaker 2>if your business mode've probably been talking about it, but

0:48:50.560 --> 0:48:52.960
<v Speaker 2>we talked about all the time I give him. I

0:48:53.000 --> 0:48:55.600
<v Speaker 2>tell him he gets paid way too much. I go, dude,

0:48:55.640 --> 0:48:56.840
<v Speaker 2>you have the easiest job in the world. Do you

0:48:56.880 --> 0:48:58.719
<v Speaker 2>get to hang out with your best friend and I'm

0:48:58.719 --> 0:49:01.360
<v Speaker 2>a cool guy. You get paid a ton of money

0:49:01.440 --> 0:49:04.880
<v Speaker 2>because we're playing well. And I go and I hardly

0:49:04.920 --> 0:49:07.000
<v Speaker 2>ever practice, like I don't not going to the range

0:49:07.040 --> 0:49:09.120
<v Speaker 2>after the round, but you know, keep him away. He

0:49:09.120 --> 0:49:10.440
<v Speaker 2>gets to play golf three or three times a week

0:49:10.440 --> 0:49:12.680
<v Speaker 2>because I don't make him do anything else. So he's

0:49:12.680 --> 0:49:15.600
<v Speaker 2>got to put up with I don't know if my smart,

0:49:15.640 --> 0:49:16.640
<v Speaker 2>but he's got to put up.

0:49:16.600 --> 0:49:19.120
<v Speaker 3>With me on the golf course. And yeah, we talked

0:49:19.160 --> 0:49:21.160
<v Speaker 3>all the time, like, hey, what's this pow work. He's like,

0:49:21.280 --> 0:49:23.160
<v Speaker 3>it's probably worth like fifty grand. I'm like, I mean

0:49:23.280 --> 0:49:27.080
<v Speaker 3>you get like or of it like this this is disgusting.

0:49:27.200 --> 0:49:29.359
<v Speaker 3>This is like this is paying for your house for

0:49:29.440 --> 0:49:32.360
<v Speaker 3>like five months. And this goes in and he laughs

0:49:32.400 --> 0:49:33.239
<v Speaker 3>and we have.

0:49:33.200 --> 0:49:34.680
<v Speaker 2>A good time about it, and like you know, it's

0:49:34.680 --> 0:49:35.919
<v Speaker 2>easier when things are going well.

0:49:35.960 --> 0:49:38.919
<v Speaker 3>But uh, the first year's on the web, the first

0:49:38.960 --> 0:49:40.160
<v Speaker 3>year on the webb, he lost.

0:49:39.960 --> 0:49:47.040
<v Speaker 1>Money there, Like I just couldn't even imagine.

0:49:46.560 --> 0:49:49.759
<v Speaker 3>It's yeah, So, I mean that was weird. We were

0:49:49.760 --> 0:49:50.359
<v Speaker 3>splitting room.

0:49:50.719 --> 0:49:52.759
<v Speaker 2>We just we split everything that year did as cheap

0:49:52.800 --> 0:49:55.480
<v Speaker 2>as possible. I think I barely broke even on the web,

0:49:55.480 --> 0:49:57.320
<v Speaker 2>so we definitely lost some money. And then the second

0:49:57.400 --> 0:49:59.239
<v Speaker 2>year when he got my card, I think he only

0:49:59.239 --> 0:50:02.920
<v Speaker 2>made like twenty gre so like that's not going to

0:50:02.960 --> 0:50:03.600
<v Speaker 2>pay the bills.

0:50:03.680 --> 0:50:05.880
<v Speaker 3>And then you know, even rookie year on tour was

0:50:05.920 --> 0:50:08.359
<v Speaker 3>pretty slim. Uh. And since at that point we've we've

0:50:08.360 --> 0:50:09.000
<v Speaker 3>done pretty well.

0:50:09.040 --> 0:50:12.440
<v Speaker 2>But he put in some real lean years, uh for

0:50:12.719 --> 0:50:14.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, for it to be good times now.

0:50:14.719 --> 0:50:17.000
<v Speaker 3>But he was willing to stick it out.

0:50:17.280 --> 0:50:19.400
<v Speaker 2>I think he always believed in me more than I

0:50:19.400 --> 0:50:20.600
<v Speaker 2>probably believed myself.

0:50:20.360 --> 0:50:21.040
<v Speaker 3>When I was younger.

0:50:21.080 --> 0:50:24.360
<v Speaker 2>And now that we're kind of, you know, on the

0:50:24.400 --> 0:50:26.600
<v Speaker 2>same page. But he put in his time, that's for sure.

0:50:26.600 --> 0:50:27.120
<v Speaker 3>He didn't just.

0:50:27.040 --> 0:50:29.640
<v Speaker 2>Pop up when when things are going well, which is

0:50:29.760 --> 0:50:31.879
<v Speaker 2>exactly what he told to me, you know, six years ago.

0:50:32.440 --> 0:50:35.200
<v Speaker 1>Is it Are there any terms that you like are

0:50:35.480 --> 0:50:39.120
<v Speaker 1>rounds that shots that you always look back and think about.

0:50:40.840 --> 0:50:44.759
<v Speaker 3>Gino does it all the time. I So the more

0:50:44.800 --> 0:50:46.960
<v Speaker 3>I've played, the better I've got in.

0:50:47.000 --> 0:50:50.120
<v Speaker 2>My career, the less I've done that. I mean, I

0:50:50.160 --> 0:50:52.400
<v Speaker 2>remember shots like in high school and junior.

0:50:52.120 --> 0:50:56.000
<v Speaker 3>Golf I hit way more than I do, Like, oh man,

0:50:56.080 --> 0:50:56.279
<v Speaker 3>that was.

0:50:56.280 --> 0:50:58.320
<v Speaker 2>A sweet golf shot. I hit under the pressure out here,

0:50:58.320 --> 0:51:04.239
<v Speaker 2>like that's saying it my first time. Really, I wasn't

0:51:04.239 --> 0:51:06.319
<v Speaker 2>incantation of John Deere. But it was my second year.

0:51:08.719 --> 0:51:10.600
<v Speaker 2>Michael Kim was winning by seven or eight or something,

0:51:10.640 --> 0:51:12.400
<v Speaker 2>so it wasn't even in the golf tournament, but it was,

0:51:12.440 --> 0:51:14.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, second place was a huge deal. And hitting

0:51:14.480 --> 0:51:18.000
<v Speaker 2>a left bunk on eighteen on the at John Deere

0:51:18.600 --> 0:51:19.200
<v Speaker 2>and I'm not.

0:51:19.200 --> 0:51:21.560
<v Speaker 3>A great family bunker player, and I had the worst lie.

0:51:21.840 --> 0:51:23.319
<v Speaker 2>It was blowing my feet and I had to hit

0:51:23.320 --> 0:51:26.520
<v Speaker 2>a big hook and I was like, you know, we

0:51:26.560 --> 0:51:28.319
<v Speaker 2>just laid up and make five, you know, like just

0:51:28.360 --> 0:51:30.760
<v Speaker 2>trying to protect like a fifth or sixth or something.

0:51:30.840 --> 0:51:32.759
<v Speaker 2>And he's like, man, I'm like.

0:51:32.840 --> 0:51:35.120
<v Speaker 3>Let's let's go for like, let's let's pull this thing off.

0:51:35.200 --> 0:51:39.560
<v Speaker 2>I hit probably the best shot, I mean, probably the

0:51:39.560 --> 0:51:40.760
<v Speaker 2>best shot I've ever hit.

0:51:42.440 --> 0:51:44.400
<v Speaker 3>Hit this big sweeping hook that went you know, I

0:51:44.400 --> 0:51:45.560
<v Speaker 3>thought I actually was flying.

0:51:45.680 --> 0:51:47.440
<v Speaker 2>It came up like forty feet short, but under the

0:51:47.440 --> 0:51:50.160
<v Speaker 2>gun it was unbelievable golf shot, and it was one

0:51:50.200 --> 0:51:51.640
<v Speaker 2>of those we kind of high fived each others, like

0:51:51.680 --> 0:51:54.920
<v Speaker 2>did that just actually happen? And then you know, he

0:51:54.960 --> 0:51:57.160
<v Speaker 2>had the two puttets still, which fairly snuck that one in.

0:51:57.239 --> 0:52:01.200
<v Speaker 2>But I remember some stuff from high school that was like, man,

0:52:01.760 --> 0:52:03.080
<v Speaker 2>I can't believe I've never hit.

0:52:02.920 --> 0:52:05.279
<v Speaker 3>That shot now that I like pulled off through the trees.

0:52:04.960 --> 0:52:07.000
<v Speaker 2>And you know, it's kind of fun stuff like that

0:52:07.000 --> 0:52:08.360
<v Speaker 2>when it obviously didn't nearly.

0:52:08.120 --> 0:52:08.759
<v Speaker 3>Matter as much.

0:52:08.800 --> 0:52:14.000
<v Speaker 2>But Gino's really good at recalling every shots if it

0:52:14.200 --> 0:52:16.400
<v Speaker 2>scared him to death, or if he thought I was

0:52:16.400 --> 0:52:18.000
<v Speaker 2>being an idiot and still let me do it, or

0:52:18.320 --> 0:52:19.960
<v Speaker 2>or times that you.

0:52:19.880 --> 0:52:21.640
<v Speaker 3>Know, you'd get me some bad numbers as well, which

0:52:21.640 --> 0:52:24.480
<v Speaker 3>I remember those. Yeah.

0:52:25.080 --> 0:52:28.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, as as a caddy, probably, I mean it's harder,

0:52:28.200 --> 0:52:32.719
<v Speaker 1>I think, watching golf than playing golf, Like if you're

0:52:32.840 --> 0:52:36.720
<v Speaker 1>if you're caddying for somebody or you're watching a friend,

0:52:36.920 --> 0:52:39.760
<v Speaker 1>it's just it's like nerve wracking to watch.

0:52:40.560 --> 0:52:44.400
<v Speaker 2>I caddied for Gino two three years ago now in

0:52:44.480 --> 0:52:48.600
<v Speaker 2>the US mid Am qualifire. I knew he was like

0:52:48.640 --> 0:52:50.640
<v Speaker 2>a toos for sure. If he played well, he would

0:52:50.640 --> 0:52:53.320
<v Speaker 2>be right there. You know, it's a small section, Idaho.

0:52:53.320 --> 0:52:54.719
<v Speaker 2>There's how many guys there, and he's one of the

0:52:54.760 --> 0:52:55.799
<v Speaker 2>better players and I was.

0:52:58.120 --> 0:53:01.680
<v Speaker 3>Not. But that was a first time I've caddied.

0:53:01.360 --> 0:53:03.200
<v Speaker 2>For you know, buddies in the past and kind of

0:53:03.200 --> 0:53:05.279
<v Speaker 2>goofed off and stuff, and that was like, man, I

0:53:05.320 --> 0:53:06.799
<v Speaker 2>really wanted qualify for this, and he.

0:53:06.800 --> 0:53:09.320
<v Speaker 3>Buried his first three holes and.

0:53:09.320 --> 0:53:11.279
<v Speaker 2>I was just out like having a grand old time,

0:53:11.400 --> 0:53:13.360
<v Speaker 2>Like like I wasn't even cadding. I was just carrying

0:53:13.360 --> 0:53:15.160
<v Speaker 2>the club, setting him down and letting him do whatever.

0:53:15.160 --> 0:53:17.880
<v Speaker 3>And all of a sudden, like.

0:53:16.880 --> 0:53:18.640
<v Speaker 2>Like I could tell like he got nervous, and then

0:53:18.680 --> 0:53:21.520
<v Speaker 2>I got nervous, and then he like made a terrible

0:53:21.560 --> 0:53:23.399
<v Speaker 2>three point bogume Like what are you doing? Like this

0:53:23.440 --> 0:53:26.239
<v Speaker 2>is like you could just see I couldn't handle it,

0:53:26.320 --> 0:53:29.560
<v Speaker 2>and he he was choking hard down the scratch and

0:53:29.840 --> 0:53:32.200
<v Speaker 2>there's nothing you can do to stop it. Like you

0:53:32.239 --> 0:53:34.279
<v Speaker 2>try to give him the proper club, the proper line,

0:53:34.280 --> 0:53:35.560
<v Speaker 2>You try to talk him through it, and then you

0:53:35.560 --> 0:53:37.719
<v Speaker 2>can just see him like scared hit the ball and

0:53:37.760 --> 0:53:39.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, is this what I look like?

0:53:39.080 --> 0:53:40.640
<v Speaker 3>He's like yeah, and I'm like, oh crap.

0:53:41.160 --> 0:53:45.480
<v Speaker 2>So being on that side of it is good at

0:53:45.520 --> 0:53:46.160
<v Speaker 2>times as well.

0:53:46.160 --> 0:53:49.080
<v Speaker 3>But thankfully he got it out a tough par in

0:53:49.120 --> 0:53:51.759
<v Speaker 3>the last and qualified by one for that.

0:53:51.840 --> 0:53:55.600
<v Speaker 2>But I kind of what my wife goes through, especially

0:53:55.600 --> 0:53:58.239
<v Speaker 2>when we were struggling a little bit and actually needed

0:53:58.280 --> 0:53:59.200
<v Speaker 2>the money, and like.

0:53:59.760 --> 0:54:01.680
<v Speaker 3>She quit her job to travel with me.

0:54:01.640 --> 0:54:05.839
<v Speaker 2>On tour, and like the pressure she's feeling us prayer,

0:54:05.880 --> 0:54:07.839
<v Speaker 2>but the nerves, Like she all she does is love

0:54:07.920 --> 0:54:10.360
<v Speaker 2>me and support me, and she has to watch this

0:54:10.520 --> 0:54:15.160
<v Speaker 2>like go down. So that's gotta be super hard. And

0:54:15.200 --> 0:54:18.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad that I'm playing and not watching, because that'd

0:54:18.120 --> 0:54:20.440
<v Speaker 2>be like I can't imagine if my son or you know,

0:54:20.520 --> 0:54:22.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't have kids yet, but if my kids grow

0:54:22.080 --> 0:54:24.400
<v Speaker 2>up to be like a great athlete or something like,

0:54:24.880 --> 0:54:26.680
<v Speaker 2>watching them has gotta be the worst thing in the world.

0:54:26.960 --> 0:54:31.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I always say so. I I used to play

0:54:31.880 --> 0:54:34.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot of midamn stuff, and I'm like, I'm a

0:54:34.600 --> 0:54:38.600
<v Speaker 1>snorkeler and you guys are nuclear subs. So like if

0:54:38.640 --> 0:54:41.400
<v Speaker 1>I get off, if I get off to a hot start,

0:54:42.840 --> 0:54:45.799
<v Speaker 1>my my my snorkel tubees going under the water and

0:54:46.000 --> 0:54:48.880
<v Speaker 1>water is just gonna rush in eventually, and I'm coming

0:54:48.960 --> 0:54:51.360
<v Speaker 1>up prayer and it's like you guys just go and

0:54:51.640 --> 0:54:54.200
<v Speaker 1>then you just keep going down further and further. It's

0:54:54.239 --> 0:54:56.960
<v Speaker 1>like you're you guys get uncomfortable when you're around par

0:54:57.880 --> 0:54:58.960
<v Speaker 1>and it's like the ninth.

0:54:58.800 --> 0:55:02.120
<v Speaker 3>Hole, right, because we gotta make berries. We gotta go.

0:55:02.480 --> 0:55:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and if we if we're like two under, we're like, uh,

0:55:06.360 --> 0:55:07.960
<v Speaker 1>I other protect this two.

0:55:07.840 --> 0:55:10.360
<v Speaker 3>Under three right exactly.

0:55:10.440 --> 0:55:15.399
<v Speaker 2>That's there is a there's a line for everybody, whatever

0:55:15.400 --> 0:55:19.040
<v Speaker 2>it is. I mean, like you feel you feel un

0:55:19.040 --> 0:55:21.520
<v Speaker 2>comfortable at some point, and uh, it's not like you

0:55:21.680 --> 0:55:24.640
<v Speaker 2>automatically like Tiger's the only one. He's like, guess broke

0:55:24.680 --> 0:55:26.320
<v Speaker 2>through it. But I guarantee you he's still nervous and

0:55:26.320 --> 0:55:29.320
<v Speaker 2>fell uncomfortable at times, but you know he's he's.

0:55:29.080 --> 0:55:29.719
<v Speaker 3>Battled through it.

0:55:29.760 --> 0:55:31.680
<v Speaker 2>Where that was a thing for me is like once

0:55:31.719 --> 0:55:33.560
<v Speaker 2>I realized that the guy's around me in contention, I

0:55:33.600 --> 0:55:36.879
<v Speaker 2>don't know if it's Rory or rom or whoever. Dude,

0:55:36.880 --> 0:55:41.120
<v Speaker 2>they're nervous too, and they're like they're playing for I'm

0:55:41.160 --> 0:55:43.000
<v Speaker 2>playing for money, and you're going to be great to

0:55:43.040 --> 0:55:44.920
<v Speaker 2>win a couple of times and playing for kind of

0:55:44.960 --> 0:55:47.319
<v Speaker 2>career they're playing for like a legacy type thing of

0:55:47.360 --> 0:55:50.279
<v Speaker 2>winning all these tournaments and winning majors and building that

0:55:50.360 --> 0:55:51.759
<v Speaker 2>like Hall of Fame career type thing.

0:55:52.280 --> 0:55:53.759
<v Speaker 3>They're just as nervous as.

0:55:54.280 --> 0:55:56.959
<v Speaker 2>As I am, and they care about it just as much,

0:55:56.960 --> 0:55:58.919
<v Speaker 2>and they're I wouldn't say worried about it, but they're

0:55:59.719 --> 0:56:02.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, they get nervous over the same gulf outside,

0:56:02.920 --> 0:56:04.959
<v Speaker 2>so you know, kind of they put on their pants

0:56:05.000 --> 0:56:06.840
<v Speaker 2>the same way we do type of thing. But that

0:56:06.920 --> 0:56:08.800
<v Speaker 2>was a good lesson for me as well. It's like, damn,

0:56:09.239 --> 0:56:11.160
<v Speaker 2>like they're worried about the t shirts same as everybody

0:56:11.160 --> 0:56:15.520
<v Speaker 2>else is. So yeah, it should help the lesser players

0:56:15.600 --> 0:56:17.600
<v Speaker 2>or the guys not as well known, like suck it

0:56:17.680 --> 0:56:18.640
<v Speaker 2>up and get it done.

0:56:19.160 --> 0:56:22.520
<v Speaker 1>How much did that you talked about that deer finish

0:56:22.520 --> 0:56:25.160
<v Speaker 1>where you you it was like one of your first

0:56:25.480 --> 0:56:29.680
<v Speaker 1>top ten, top five finishes. How much did that help

0:56:30.640 --> 0:56:33.759
<v Speaker 1>you the next time you were in that area, like,

0:56:34.000 --> 0:56:35.799
<v Speaker 1>because then you went like last timmer you went on,

0:56:35.920 --> 0:56:38.080
<v Speaker 1>you had just kind of a string of them where

0:56:38.120 --> 0:56:40.640
<v Speaker 1>you you know, for five weeks you were six weeks

0:56:40.680 --> 0:56:43.080
<v Speaker 1>you were just in contention every single week.

0:56:44.000 --> 0:56:44.919
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it certainly helps.

0:56:44.960 --> 0:56:48.759
<v Speaker 2>You started, you start expecting to see your name around there,

0:56:48.800 --> 0:56:50.760
<v Speaker 2>and you want to see your name there.

0:56:50.640 --> 0:56:51.120
<v Speaker 1>So you.

0:56:52.920 --> 0:56:54.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm a big believer that you kind of

0:56:54.520 --> 0:56:56.319
<v Speaker 2>play to whatever you think you're going to play too.

0:56:56.320 --> 0:56:57.960
<v Speaker 2>If you're trying to make cuts, you're gonna be around

0:56:58.000 --> 0:57:01.000
<v Speaker 2>the cut line if you're you know, the best players

0:57:01.280 --> 0:57:03.359
<v Speaker 2>always think they should be in the top ten, so

0:57:03.400 --> 0:57:08.080
<v Speaker 2>that's what they do. Like if you I thoroughly believe

0:57:08.080 --> 0:57:09.960
<v Speaker 2>that I, if I play solid, there's no reason I

0:57:09.960 --> 0:57:12.560
<v Speaker 2>should be, you know, consistently around that top ten point.

0:57:12.560 --> 0:57:14.439
<v Speaker 2>If I played hout well, then I'm gonna be around

0:57:14.440 --> 0:57:16.800
<v Speaker 2>the lead. So when you start believing those things and

0:57:16.840 --> 0:57:20.640
<v Speaker 2>you actually believe them and you're you know, every all

0:57:20.680 --> 0:57:22.439
<v Speaker 2>the metrics say that you should be doing that, then

0:57:23.000 --> 0:57:23.920
<v Speaker 2>there's no reason not to.

0:57:24.040 --> 0:57:24.640
<v Speaker 3>So once you.

0:57:26.800 --> 0:57:29.280
<v Speaker 2>Instead of everybody has goals to go to their ceiling everybody,

0:57:29.560 --> 0:57:31.640
<v Speaker 2>but there's a floor that everybody has as well, and

0:57:31.720 --> 0:57:33.240
<v Speaker 2>most people are gonna end up at the floor.

0:57:34.120 --> 0:57:34.560
<v Speaker 3>Not many.

0:57:34.760 --> 0:57:36.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh everybody wants to win this and do that or

0:57:36.760 --> 0:57:39.160
<v Speaker 2>get the tour championship. But if you get if you're

0:57:39.160 --> 0:57:41.200
<v Speaker 2>like man, I would be really bummed. If I didn't

0:57:41.200 --> 0:57:43.160
<v Speaker 2>finish top fifty on this year's Best.

0:57:42.960 --> 0:57:45.280
<v Speaker 3>Cup, that's probably where you're gonna end up closer to

0:57:45.280 --> 0:57:48.040
<v Speaker 3>that number. So I think that wherever your floor is,

0:57:48.040 --> 0:57:48.760
<v Speaker 3>if you're okay with.

0:57:48.720 --> 0:57:50.840
<v Speaker 2>Top twenty five, you're probably gonna finish top twenty five

0:57:50.920 --> 0:57:52.640
<v Speaker 2>if your floor is top ten, so you're probably going

0:57:52.680 --> 0:57:53.880
<v Speaker 2>to find a way to do that as well.

0:57:53.960 --> 0:57:58.040
<v Speaker 3>So it start of, you know, when seeing your name

0:57:58.080 --> 0:57:58.680
<v Speaker 3>up there, you start.

0:57:58.520 --> 0:58:02.440
<v Speaker 2>Feel more comforble, get more comfableround like cameras.

0:58:02.920 --> 0:58:04.960
<v Speaker 3>Honestly as well, when you start making more money, like

0:58:05.000 --> 0:58:08.520
<v Speaker 3>you don't worried about making money as much. It's a

0:58:08.600 --> 0:58:10.560
<v Speaker 3>huge deal when you're like, all of a sudden, maybe

0:58:11.000 --> 0:58:12.840
<v Speaker 3>like get rive this year. For me, I was in

0:58:12.880 --> 0:58:14.320
<v Speaker 3>the fairway on eighteen.

0:58:14.840 --> 0:58:17.160
<v Speaker 2>I thought I was one back at the time I

0:58:17.240 --> 0:58:19.360
<v Speaker 2>need to make Bertie had a great drive and I

0:58:19.400 --> 0:58:21.120
<v Speaker 2>went after the back left pan at riv because I

0:58:21.120 --> 0:58:23.680
<v Speaker 2>thought I needed to make a three. I didn't realize

0:58:23.680 --> 0:58:26.360
<v Speaker 2>Scott had thirty seventeen. I don't think he had yet actually,

0:58:26.920 --> 0:58:30.120
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, man like, this is my chance,

0:58:30.160 --> 0:58:32.040
<v Speaker 2>and all of a sudden, like I lived out like

0:58:32.080 --> 0:58:34.520
<v Speaker 2>a five footer for par which would have kept.

0:58:34.440 --> 0:58:37.560
<v Speaker 3>Me T two, but I missed it. I dropped down

0:58:37.600 --> 0:58:37.760
<v Speaker 3>in T.

0:58:37.920 --> 0:58:38.160
<v Speaker 1>Five.

0:58:38.240 --> 0:58:40.080
<v Speaker 2>And in the past I've been like, oh my god,

0:58:40.200 --> 0:58:41.720
<v Speaker 2>like I maybe would have hit a nine rod and

0:58:41.720 --> 0:58:43.200
<v Speaker 2>thirty feet out to the right and two putted to

0:58:43.200 --> 0:58:45.680
<v Speaker 2>save you know whatever it was two or three hundred

0:58:45.720 --> 0:58:47.360
<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars. But for me, it was more important to

0:58:47.360 --> 0:58:50.880
<v Speaker 2>go after the w and you know, stand up to

0:58:50.920 --> 0:58:53.600
<v Speaker 2>it and hit the golf shot that was required at

0:58:53.600 --> 0:58:56.440
<v Speaker 2>the time. So I felt better about it than I

0:58:56.520 --> 0:58:58.880
<v Speaker 2>ever have at that point. And you know, those guys

0:58:58.880 --> 0:58:59.400
<v Speaker 2>who have all.

0:58:59.280 --> 0:59:01.960
<v Speaker 3>The money in the world will never have a money problem.

0:59:01.640 --> 0:59:03.440
<v Speaker 2>Like they're so easy to free wheel it and go

0:59:03.480 --> 0:59:06.680
<v Speaker 2>after some golf shots down the stretch that a lot

0:59:06.680 --> 0:59:08.800
<v Speaker 2>of guys are maybe just protecting from par and just

0:59:08.880 --> 0:59:11.240
<v Speaker 2>kind of hanging onto that two five thing.

0:59:12.280 --> 0:59:13.480
<v Speaker 3>So that matters a lot as well.

0:59:13.760 --> 0:59:17.560
<v Speaker 1>It's interesting to think about from like the mentality standpoint,

0:59:17.600 --> 0:59:20.520
<v Speaker 1>because once once you play on tour long enough and

0:59:20.560 --> 0:59:24.360
<v Speaker 1>have enough success, the money aspect becomes not there's not

0:59:24.480 --> 0:59:27.000
<v Speaker 1>as much pressure associated to the money as there is

0:59:27.040 --> 0:59:28.600
<v Speaker 1>to the finish right, to the just the.

0:59:28.800 --> 0:59:34.080
<v Speaker 2>Exactly right exactly that no, you're totally right. It's and

0:59:34.160 --> 0:59:37.640
<v Speaker 2>for me the first time in my career where I

0:59:37.680 --> 0:59:39.360
<v Speaker 2>mean I finished second a couple of times, but I

0:59:39.400 --> 0:59:40.800
<v Speaker 2>really had a chance to win. Like I had a

0:59:40.840 --> 0:59:43.560
<v Speaker 2>putch tight lead on seventeen. I hit a good you know,

0:59:43.640 --> 0:59:45.360
<v Speaker 2>the part five whatever, so I had a chance to

0:59:45.400 --> 0:59:46.360
<v Speaker 2>tie lead on seventeen.

0:59:46.400 --> 0:59:50.000
<v Speaker 3>I'd never felt that before and that was a big moment.

0:59:50.000 --> 0:59:51.840
<v Speaker 2>But I felt okay there, like I felt like, oh

0:59:51.880 --> 0:59:55.520
<v Speaker 2>this is you know, I can do this eighteen stripe

0:59:55.560 --> 0:59:57.320
<v Speaker 2>to drive and was willing to go after it. And

0:59:57.440 --> 0:59:59.920
<v Speaker 2>because I was okay if I screwed up and made

1:00:00.560 --> 1:00:03.320
<v Speaker 2>like I was okay with it. And that's a hard

1:00:03.360 --> 1:00:06.880
<v Speaker 2>place to get. You know, I don't have massive endorsements

1:00:06.920 --> 1:00:08.920
<v Speaker 2>off off off the course, I.

1:00:08.880 --> 1:00:09.440
<v Speaker 3>Don't have.

1:00:11.040 --> 1:00:13.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm not pulling in those type of figures. And you know,

1:00:13.560 --> 1:00:14.760
<v Speaker 2>I've been a journeyman forever.

1:00:16.120 --> 1:00:18.240
<v Speaker 1>You're thirty two, that's not a journeyman.

1:00:18.920 --> 1:00:20.920
<v Speaker 2>Well compared to what you see now, you have like

1:00:20.960 --> 1:00:23.840
<v Speaker 2>more Kawa, and you have Wolf and you have even

1:00:23.880 --> 1:00:28.160
<v Speaker 2>like Ricky and JT and these like it's weird. I

1:00:28.400 --> 1:00:31.280
<v Speaker 2>don't know, like it's mind bolving to me. You know,

1:00:31.320 --> 1:00:33.280
<v Speaker 2>they just come out at twenty two, twenty three, twenty four.

1:00:33.320 --> 1:00:36.360
<v Speaker 2>They're signing million dollar deals in they're winning majors in there,

1:00:36.920 --> 1:00:38.040
<v Speaker 2>cruising it and like that's great.

1:00:38.080 --> 1:00:39.680
<v Speaker 3>You know, they are the top ten in the world.

1:00:39.720 --> 1:00:44.400
<v Speaker 1>But I think I feel like it's it's there's been

1:00:44.440 --> 1:00:47.720
<v Speaker 1>like this recent phenomenon that's like shifted the like you

1:00:47.760 --> 1:00:50.880
<v Speaker 1>think about like Kevin Kissner. Kevin Kisser didn't get on

1:00:50.880 --> 1:00:53.720
<v Speaker 1>tour until he was like twenty seven twenty eight, and

1:00:53.840 --> 1:00:56.720
<v Speaker 1>he was like a great player in college. But I

1:00:56.760 --> 1:01:00.040
<v Speaker 1>think there's also something about if you're one of the

1:01:00.120 --> 1:01:02.680
<v Speaker 1>guys that does everything pretty well, but you're not like

1:01:02.920 --> 1:01:06.320
<v Speaker 1>just like really long or have a really dominant skill,

1:01:06.960 --> 1:01:10.920
<v Speaker 1>that it's going to take longer to get there because absolutely,

1:01:11.240 --> 1:01:14.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, every skill's got to get a little bit better, right.

1:01:14.920 --> 1:01:17.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know you're you're totally right, like unless you're

1:01:17.920 --> 1:01:20.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, Mark how is like probably the best ball

1:01:20.360 --> 1:01:21.520
<v Speaker 2>striker on tour.

1:01:21.600 --> 1:01:23.440
<v Speaker 3>If not, you know, he's for sure top five, and.

1:01:23.400 --> 1:01:24.680
<v Speaker 2>The way he just appears all the time, so you

1:01:24.720 --> 1:01:27.120
<v Speaker 2>don't have to putt great where Wolf is a bomber

1:01:27.120 --> 1:01:28.760
<v Speaker 2>type of thing, or you have these other guys where

1:01:30.120 --> 1:01:32.520
<v Speaker 2>they have these unbelievable skills or they hit it super

1:01:32.560 --> 1:01:34.240
<v Speaker 2>far so they can make up for a lack of

1:01:34.280 --> 1:01:36.760
<v Speaker 2>this somewhere along the way where I think kiss guy's

1:01:36.760 --> 1:01:39.560
<v Speaker 2>pretty similar. He's a way better partter than I am.

1:01:39.800 --> 1:01:44.760
<v Speaker 2>But he's pretty steady, not overly long, it's it pretty

1:01:44.760 --> 1:01:47.080
<v Speaker 2>solid all the time. When he puts well, he's he's competing,

1:01:47.080 --> 1:01:48.480
<v Speaker 2>and he can win those big events. You know, he

1:01:48.520 --> 1:01:52.440
<v Speaker 2>can compete the players and and win WGCs and you'll

1:01:52.440 --> 1:01:54.240
<v Speaker 2>see him you know, he's been around the majors as well.

1:01:54.320 --> 1:01:57.960
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, he's certainly like he's He's a guy that

1:01:58.200 --> 1:02:00.720
<v Speaker 2>I think he's only maybe true, it's years older than me,

1:02:01.080 --> 1:02:02.840
<v Speaker 2>so I can see a lot of myself and him,

1:02:02.840 --> 1:02:05.280
<v Speaker 2>where if I shore up the putting and be a

1:02:05.280 --> 1:02:06.560
<v Speaker 2>lot like him, like you said.

1:02:06.360 --> 1:02:11.280
<v Speaker 3>So for I had to improve a little bit on everything.

1:02:10.920 --> 1:02:12.919
<v Speaker 2>Over the course of five six years ago on tour,

1:02:12.960 --> 1:02:14.720
<v Speaker 2>where a lot of these guys already have two or

1:02:14.720 --> 1:02:17.360
<v Speaker 2>three skills that are good enough to get out there,

1:02:17.360 --> 1:02:19.439
<v Speaker 2>and they can kind of mass their weaknesses a little

1:02:19.440 --> 1:02:22.320
<v Speaker 2>bit because they're so dominant one area, which is driving

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<v Speaker 2>the ball mostly now the way you can drive a

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<v Speaker 2>golf ball.

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<v Speaker 3>And overpowered golf course, if you hit it far and straight,

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<v Speaker 3>you can get away with a lot of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like Champ is so long that he's just

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<v Speaker 1>going to run into win every year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he can't if he drives a ball consistently. He does,

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<v Speaker 2>and then all of a sudden he pits a couple

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<v Speaker 2>irons close and he huts it decent. He can't not

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<v Speaker 2>win once.

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<v Speaker 3>Through twice a year. Yeah, he just says, too big

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<v Speaker 3>of an advantage, so.

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<v Speaker 1>The only way to get through. It's crazy. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it is, so I'm really used to it. But sure,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like the fact that you can't touch anything.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just crazy to me.

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<v Speaker 3>It is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like for me, luckily, I can just.

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<v Speaker 3>Sit at home and kind of do nothing. We have

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<v Speaker 3>everything we need here.

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<v Speaker 2>But my wife's going a little stirt crazy, so she's

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<v Speaker 2>been having a couple extra SIPs of wine at night.

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<v Speaker 2>That's for sure, to to get away.

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<v Speaker 3>From it all. Sometimes we start a little early in

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<v Speaker 3>the afternoon, but it's when it's eighty degrees outside you

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<v Speaker 3>want to see on your patios. Not too bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's they I don't know. It's gonna be crazy

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<v Speaker 1>to see when when you guys come back.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's gonna be a while too.

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<v Speaker 2>I think sounds like it anyways, so hopefully it's sooner

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<v Speaker 2>rather than later.

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<v Speaker 1>They should. Honestly, they should be sending like five camera

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<v Speaker 1>men and you guys should be doing like matches in Scottsdale.

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<v Speaker 2>And so we've talked about that and we almost had

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<v Speaker 2>one kind of going. They put us in lockdown, but

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<v Speaker 2>courses still open. We talked about doing a simulator match

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<v Speaker 2>Scott Stowe guys, get five scotts Stoe guys against five

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<v Speaker 2>guys in Jupiter and have Scott still against.

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<v Speaker 3>Jupiter and then you can do maybe the winner of

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<v Speaker 3>that would.

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<v Speaker 2>Play like the Vegas team and then maybe a team

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<v Speaker 2>in Dallas or something like that where you play indoors

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<v Speaker 2>simulator but you just put a camera up and you

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<v Speaker 2>just crap talk each other back and forth on a simulator.

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<v Speaker 3>You could there's no reason you couldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Maxim Ike couldn't go and have a match right now

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<v Speaker 2>at Mason Country Club or wherever with have a cameraman

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<v Speaker 2>follows around and Mike us up and have a blast.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, but it's I think the tour they could,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that's what they should be thinking about because

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<v Speaker 1>like no other sport and it's like golf, like you

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<v Speaker 1>could do all these cool little things that.

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<v Speaker 2>Are totally especially if you walk, you just there's no

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<v Speaker 2>the pins or whatever. You put a stiro froam thing

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<v Speaker 2>in the cup so you don't have to touch the pins.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have to touch A break six feet apart

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<v Speaker 2>is so easy on a golf course.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm surprised something hasn't come up.

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<v Speaker 2>I know there's been a couple of years floaded, but

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<v Speaker 2>nothing is definitely stuck, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I think like one of the things I think about

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<v Speaker 1>is like, if it worked really well, people would want

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<v Speaker 1>more of it, and it would take away from seventy

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<v Speaker 1>two hole one hundred and forty four player stroke play,

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<v Speaker 1>which is like the bread and butter, and they wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to show a format of the game that was

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<v Speaker 1>was better when the main thing is maximize playing opportunities.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Sure, And I get that too.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know Tiger and Field kind of tried the

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<v Speaker 2>match thing and that was a big flop.

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<v Speaker 3>They weren't as entertaining as it could be, the golf

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<v Speaker 3>was crappy, The whole thing didn't work overy well.

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<v Speaker 1>So I imagine that I don't know if that was

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<v Speaker 1>a flop because I went to all my buddies are

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<v Speaker 1>not golfers like that, are just like my college drinking buddies. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>they like I went out after that because I had

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<v Speaker 1>to cover it, and I went out and met my

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<v Speaker 1>buddies and all of them were like, what what happened

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<v Speaker 1>to the match? Who won? You know? And they they

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<v Speaker 1>could the only thing they care about is like the masters.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Sure, but they were asking about the match they.

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<v Speaker 1>Were nuts about. They wanted to know so much about.

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<v Speaker 1>They never ask about anything. They don't ask about the players,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't ask about you know. They might ask about

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<v Speaker 1>the US Open, but nothing but the match they asked about.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's because it's so easy to understand.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it is, certainly that I think. I guess we

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<v Speaker 2>were expecting a lot more back and forth, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of shit talking, a little bit more side bets

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<v Speaker 2>that were it just seemed a little forced. A Tiger's

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<v Speaker 2>not the best in that environment either. Probably Phils can

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<v Speaker 2>be very good at it, with the way that he

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<v Speaker 2>can give the needle and the way that he can chat.

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<v Speaker 3>But man, if you'd put.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you get some normal guys in there,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you can, like I feel like Ricky and

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<v Speaker 2>JT would be fun at it.

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<v Speaker 3>Rory would be good at that type of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>A little more personality to put some drinks in Stara

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<v Speaker 2>from cup and you're.

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<v Speaker 3>Gonna get a lot of fun out a lot of golfers.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you put kids and you know selfishly, you

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<v Speaker 2>put me and kids against like Homa and you know

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<v Speaker 2>maybe JT.

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<v Speaker 3>Those kinds are buddies.

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<v Speaker 2>Like then you go put us like in an alternate

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<v Speaker 2>shot match, like it would be an absolute blast.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you could be ahead too, and you guys start

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<v Speaker 1>talking about like what the other person's doing. You wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>really need announcers as much if it was alternate shot totally.

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<v Speaker 3>I be able, like because you can just skip ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't even really watch your partner, you just keep

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<v Speaker 3>rotating ahead. You can play in like two hours. You

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<v Speaker 3>would have an absolute blast. And uh, I mean we

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<v Speaker 3>do that stuff here anyways with somebody. So we played

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<v Speaker 3>a game called Auto two down Shotguns.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you got two down, you had a shotgun

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<v Speaker 2>a beer and that was That was a pretty fun game.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're trying to set set another one of those

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<v Speaker 2>matches up this weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>I think.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one. You know, some people I used to carry

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<v Speaker 1>for this guy. He would he was like he was

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<v Speaker 1>just he was unbelievable because once you got like six

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<v Speaker 1>beers in he was he went from like a six

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<v Speaker 1>to like a plus two.

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<v Speaker 3>That's awesome, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Have two beers and then like the course would come

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<v Speaker 1>around the fourth hole, would loop back around the men's

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<v Speaker 1>locker room and grab two bar and then we get

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<v Speaker 1>to the turn and then he was like a world

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<v Speaker 1>beer you know, like he won the club championship as

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<v Speaker 1>a six handicap and it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>If you it's all about getting your levels right. Some

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<v Speaker 2>people only need a couple. Some people need a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>and they got a start earlier. But then if you

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<v Speaker 2>cross over the line, then you're absolutely told. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's really ugly fast. So everybody has their level. Some

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<v Speaker 2>people at zero, some people at six, some people it's ten.

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<v Speaker 2>Some people it's only a couple. But everyone has their line.

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<v Speaker 3>Where they play better golf from.

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<v Speaker 1>And did you qualify for something after drinking at Sciota?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? It was.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was this year's or last year for Pebble Beach.

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<v Speaker 2>I was doing just fine. I bog you to my

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<v Speaker 2>last like four it to get which I thought was

1:09:01.600 --> 1:09:03.680
<v Speaker 2>gonna bump me out. I knew if I parted in

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<v Speaker 2>like I was, I would have it.

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<v Speaker 3>Looked at it.

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<v Speaker 2>We're completely choked because I wanted to play in the

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<v Speaker 2>US Open the Pebbles so bad, like that was a

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<v Speaker 2>huge deal for me.

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<v Speaker 3>And uh choked.

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<v Speaker 2>So then we're at the we're at say I own

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<v Speaker 2>the homest course of allence. We had to drive back

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<v Speaker 2>and then I was one of the earlier tea times.

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<v Speaker 2>We had like an hour to wait, and I was

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<v Speaker 2>like positive.

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<v Speaker 1>That we.

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<v Speaker 2>I got bumped out already. But then they're like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a playoff. Probably they'll be a massive playoff for

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<v Speaker 2>like the last for an alternate spot. And I'm like, okay, whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>Well I don't really care. And some guys like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>you need like you should, you should play in it. Okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>so Gina and I we have an hour away, so

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<v Speaker 2>we go grab a couple of beers and then we

1:09:44.400 --> 1:09:45.920
<v Speaker 2>drank them, and then we grabbed a couple more, and

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, they all right, just let it

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<v Speaker 2>me know. We have like a twelve We had eleven

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<v Speaker 2>for one for the first alternate playoff, and somebody's like, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>you know the first this is the first alternate site

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<v Speaker 2>and they always hold a couple of spots, like you

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<v Speaker 2>if you win the swet UF, you're guaranteed to get.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, oh okay, I had in Baldon hour.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was drinking beer on the range like kind

1:10:05.360 --> 1:10:09.000
<v Speaker 2>of whacking balls and guys like one of the other players.

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<v Speaker 3>Was like, dude, you can't be doing that, and I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, what do you mean? Like I was like, this

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<v Speaker 2>has been some rules, like I didn't. I was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of playing dumb whatever and so usg G he didn't care,

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<v Speaker 2>So anywo, I make I a thirty footer on the

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<v Speaker 2>first hole to make birdie and to have there's only

1:10:26.320 --> 1:10:27.680
<v Speaker 2>one of the guy made Bertie, so then went to

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<v Speaker 2>the next hole. Uh and I made par and he

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<v Speaker 2>made bogie and I was the first videos opening got

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<v Speaker 2>in like two weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>Later or a week later, I guess. So it's pretty awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny. We just did this vignette on on Sandy

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<v Speaker 1>Lyle on my other pod and he had the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing happened where he finished this event in like the eighties,

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<v Speaker 1>really early on the European tour, and he shot a

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<v Speaker 1>good score and he thought he was gonna be in

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<v Speaker 1>the top ten, so he's having a glass of line.

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<v Speaker 1>He ended up having like four glass of line. The

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<v Speaker 1>weather got bad and and Seve like completely blew it

1:11:03.080 --> 1:11:04.880
<v Speaker 1>down the stretch. He ended up in a playoff against

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<v Speaker 1>Sev and on the first Holy canned like a thirty

1:11:07.280 --> 1:11:11.040
<v Speaker 1>five foot after four glass of wine to win.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, it's awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's I mean, obviously that doesn't have

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<v Speaker 2>very often because class, but there's beer in the locker

1:11:17.680 --> 1:11:20.160
<v Speaker 2>room forest on Sundays, so like it's easy to go

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<v Speaker 2>in there and grab a beer real.

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<v Speaker 3>Quick and and have a couple, so I wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure it's happened four times than people would ever

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<v Speaker 2>imagine that that somebody who posted early would have a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of pops before they went back out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean it's like that. It's almost like Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>is like your Friday forever.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, Like it's like, you're exactly right.

1:11:39.120 --> 1:11:41.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm done with the work week. I could I can

1:11:41.720 --> 1:11:45.320
<v Speaker 1>hang out for a while. It's like Friday afternoon exactly.

1:11:45.320 --> 1:11:47.760
<v Speaker 2>Most of us have Mondays off travel day for us,

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<v Speaker 2>So by the time we're Tuesday roll around, we're back

1:11:50.439 --> 1:11:50.840
<v Speaker 2>and rate a.

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<v Speaker 3>Roll, So Sundays of our favorite day for everybody on tour.

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<v Speaker 1>Most people, Hey, so tell me about your limited practice theory.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm interested that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's probably a little over one. I do practice.

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up at a place with a bad driving

1:12:10.240 --> 1:12:13.840
<v Speaker 2>range and a very like not even a chipping area

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<v Speaker 2>type thing. So I did all my practice on the

1:12:15.640 --> 1:12:18.160
<v Speaker 2>golf course. I was lucky that no one was out

1:12:18.160 --> 1:12:20.840
<v Speaker 2>there in the evenings. I could just cruise down and

1:12:20.920 --> 1:12:22.920
<v Speaker 2>so I got used to practicing on the golf course. Well,

1:12:24.439 --> 1:12:26.360
<v Speaker 2>so I'm not a range rat. I never really had

1:12:26.360 --> 1:12:29.360
<v Speaker 2>a coach until, you know, a real serious on until

1:12:29.360 --> 1:12:30.560
<v Speaker 2>I got on a web chair where I worked with

1:12:30.600 --> 1:12:33.439
<v Speaker 2>them all the time and we just My swing doesn't

1:12:33.479 --> 1:12:33.960
<v Speaker 2>change much.

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<v Speaker 3>I can always hit it.

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<v Speaker 2>As soon as I set up correctly, my swing comes

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<v Speaker 2>back in five or ten balls and then I'm good

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<v Speaker 2>to go.

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<v Speaker 3>So and I've always been a pretty good ball striker,

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<v Speaker 3>and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Can so and I hate practicing putting, man, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>probably the only thing I need to practice. But I

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<v Speaker 2>just can't stand like hitting putts over and over again.

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<v Speaker 2>That just drives me nuts. So I had not a

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<v Speaker 2>range rat. Like sometimes there's been times on Thursday, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>ask Gino where the rain, just like I haven't been

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<v Speaker 2>to the rain yet until Thursday warming up. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get better at it, just like consistently being

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 3>Consistent at practicing.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, there's times I won't have seen the I'll

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<v Speaker 2>just show up on Tuesday, play nine, play my Wednesday

1:13:16.439 --> 1:13:20.519
<v Speaker 2>pro am, and be off, so I don't spend any

1:13:20.520 --> 1:13:25.360
<v Speaker 2>time after the round hitting balls. I'm tired normally after

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<v Speaker 2>I play eighteen holds, so I just kind of go

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<v Speaker 2>back home. But I'll play a lot when I'm home.

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<v Speaker 2>I love to play with the buddies and hanging out.

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<v Speaker 2>But when I do see coach, my coach, Roberts Shelle.

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<v Speaker 2>He's head of instruction here at TPS scott Still and

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<v Speaker 2>he's incredible.

1:13:39.040 --> 1:13:39.400
<v Speaker 3>He's fun.

1:13:39.439 --> 1:13:41.560
<v Speaker 2>He understands me like he's He played on tour in

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<v Speaker 2>early two thousands European Tour, a couple of US opens.

1:13:46.240 --> 1:13:48.679
<v Speaker 2>He was a crazy grinder, like all he did is practice,

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<v Speaker 2>like all day every day. Everything was dedicated to golf.

1:13:50.960 --> 1:13:53.439
<v Speaker 2>And he understands with me like we're at the players.

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<v Speaker 2>This year he flew out for a couple of days

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<v Speaker 2>of like hey, what are.

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<v Speaker 3>You gonna do Wednesday?

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<v Speaker 2>And I Mike, maybe play nine, and he's like feeling

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<v Speaker 2>and just just go goof op for night holes.

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<v Speaker 3>And be done.

1:14:04.479 --> 1:14:06.040
<v Speaker 2>Like you're gonna get your games in a good spot.

1:14:06.920 --> 1:14:08.080
<v Speaker 2>The best thing you can do is go home and

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<v Speaker 2>relax and you know, kind of get my mind right.

1:14:10.400 --> 1:14:13.680
<v Speaker 2>So for me, I do better when I'm refreshed, when

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not wasting time with the golf course hitting a

1:14:17.280 --> 1:14:18.720
<v Speaker 2>bunch of balls and practicing a ton.

1:14:18.800 --> 1:14:22.479
<v Speaker 3>And I do practice plenty, and I a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>When it's with Rob it's structured and we go we

1:14:25.280 --> 1:14:27.799
<v Speaker 2>practice for a couple hours, But I get.

1:14:27.600 --> 1:14:29.560
<v Speaker 3>Burned out after a couple hours practicing. I can't. I

1:14:29.600 --> 1:14:33.040
<v Speaker 3>can't think about golf that long and be, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>hundred percent into it.

1:14:34.320 --> 1:14:37.639
<v Speaker 1>I guess there's the Deval had the theory that if

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<v Speaker 1>he's hitting it good, he doesn't want to go mess

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<v Speaker 1>anything up, and if he's hitting it bad, he doesn't

1:14:44.320 --> 1:14:47.599
<v Speaker 1>want to go reinforce anything bad. So like why spend

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of time? I mean, I think I'm kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the same way. It's like, if I go to

1:14:51.040 --> 1:14:53.479
<v Speaker 1>the range, I'm more likely to just screw myself up.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm playing well.

1:14:55.840 --> 1:14:56.880
<v Speaker 3>If I'm playing well, it's fine.

1:14:56.920 --> 1:14:59.439
<v Speaker 2>If I have like, Okay, I gotta go hit thirty

1:14:59.479 --> 1:15:03.559
<v Speaker 2>balls with correct alignment and you know, fill with club

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<v Speaker 2>faces and get that, then I'll can go through that

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<v Speaker 2>in a bag of balls real quick.

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<v Speaker 3>And be just fine. Like the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>If I'm hitting it well, I definitely am not going

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<v Speaker 2>to the range, you know. I like chipping. I like

1:15:15.439 --> 1:15:17.880
<v Speaker 2>sometime with bunker playing goofing off there, and I've improved

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<v Speaker 2>out a ton the last couple of years. But everything

1:15:20.560 --> 1:15:22.320
<v Speaker 2>I have to do has to be competitive. I bet gino.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, hey, on any type of web shot or

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<v Speaker 2>chipping or anything, it's like, hey, you have five balls,

1:15:29.000 --> 1:15:29.599
<v Speaker 2>can even.

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<v Speaker 3>Do this with it? I have to say really competitive

1:15:32.680 --> 1:15:37.040
<v Speaker 3>when I practice. Otherwise it just gets so bland. So whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>And I like practice with buddies. If we're gonna go

1:15:39.280 --> 1:15:42.760
<v Speaker 2>out and have a chipping contest, whether that's great. But

1:15:42.800 --> 1:15:44.880
<v Speaker 2>I play way more than I practice.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're right. I always have said that setting

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<v Speaker 1>up to the ball is the hardest thing in golf.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>If you can set up correctly with the proper alignment

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<v Speaker 2>for whatever you're trying to.

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<v Speaker 3>Do, It's different for everybody. But whatever you.

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<v Speaker 2>Play beast at, if you can do that consistently, then

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<v Speaker 2>your swing, your swing doesn't really change.

1:16:04.320 --> 1:16:08.000
<v Speaker 3>Your alignment changes in your maybe your poster changes.

1:16:07.760 --> 1:16:10.599
<v Speaker 2>A little bit and that stuff, and then you're then

1:16:10.640 --> 1:16:13.080
<v Speaker 2>your swing changes because your setups off, not because of

1:16:13.120 --> 1:16:14.160
<v Speaker 2>your swing is changing.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think that's the biggest thing for most everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, last question, we'll get you out of here,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know quick one. When do you think if

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<v Speaker 1>you were going to guess your coming that the tour

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<v Speaker 1>is coming back, and what would you like to see

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<v Speaker 1>him do with given the circumstances, do you just like,

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<v Speaker 1>do you wipe the year clean? Do you do you

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<v Speaker 1>do like a truncated thing where it you're into the

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<v Speaker 1>playoffs right away, or do you go deep into the

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<v Speaker 1>year you know, and you have a shorter season next year.

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<v Speaker 4>This is a very tough question they I think, I

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<v Speaker 4>think what they should do if we can start on time,

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<v Speaker 4>which I think is like mid May right now, I

1:17:00.400 --> 1:17:02.960
<v Speaker 4>think we're on supposed to be a colonial I highly

1:17:02.960 --> 1:17:06.040
<v Speaker 4>doubt that's gonna happen, you know, based on everything else

1:17:06.080 --> 1:17:08.800
<v Speaker 4>has already been canceled months past that, you know, I

1:17:08.800 --> 1:17:12.000
<v Speaker 4>think things are getting canceled in June and.

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<v Speaker 3>July already, so maybe just roll the year over.

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<v Speaker 2>I know there's rumors of them, even like the playoffs,

1:17:22.320 --> 1:17:23.920
<v Speaker 2>so like I've heard the rumors of the Tour Championship

1:17:23.920 --> 1:17:25.960
<v Speaker 2>could be one hundred and forty four players, just a

1:17:26.000 --> 1:17:32.280
<v Speaker 2>full field that let everybody play. If this, if this

1:17:32.320 --> 1:17:34.679
<v Speaker 2>delay happens, for it, you can't throw out the previous result.

1:17:34.680 --> 1:17:36.360
<v Speaker 2>You can't throw out the previous twenty seven events. I

1:17:36.400 --> 1:17:39.000
<v Speaker 2>think you just roll over the tournament year and make

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<v Speaker 2>it like a year and a half long deal and

1:17:42.200 --> 1:17:44.799
<v Speaker 2>play it that way. I think that that's the fairest

1:17:44.800 --> 1:17:47.800
<v Speaker 2>way because people who have played great get to continue.

1:17:47.479 --> 1:17:49.040
<v Speaker 3>To play great. People that play bad you get a

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<v Speaker 3>whole nother chance at it.

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<v Speaker 2>It really stinks for the corn fairy players who have

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<v Speaker 2>maybe got off to a good start because then they're

1:17:55.920 --> 1:17:57.680
<v Speaker 2>down there for another year, and it really screws the

1:17:57.720 --> 1:18:00.200
<v Speaker 2>bottom guys in the golf world.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem with the corn faery is like their seasons

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<v Speaker 1>not as long as yours. So it's like you can't

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<v Speaker 1>give somebody a card who played well in like five events,

1:18:10.720 --> 1:18:11.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, right.

1:18:11.479 --> 1:18:13.080
<v Speaker 3>They've play played six events so far.

1:18:13.120 --> 1:18:14.759
<v Speaker 2>They would have to get off, they'd have to play

1:18:14.960 --> 1:18:16.479
<v Speaker 2>right away and get a lot of events in.

1:18:17.760 --> 1:18:19.720
<v Speaker 3>I just I can't imagine what they're going to do

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<v Speaker 3>or how they would make that fair.

1:18:23.160 --> 1:18:25.040
<v Speaker 2>But for us two guys, I mean, man, we've we've

1:18:25.040 --> 1:18:27.720
<v Speaker 2>already played what twenty events or something, or the possibilities

1:18:27.720 --> 1:18:27.960
<v Speaker 2>out there.

1:18:28.000 --> 1:18:29.920
<v Speaker 3>I know some guys have only played like eight or nine.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's crazy because like the fall has become so

1:18:33.360 --> 1:18:36.479
<v Speaker 1>big now that right exactly, it's weird that you're like

1:18:36.720 --> 1:18:40.040
<v Speaker 1>almost three quarters away through the season, you know, right

1:18:40.120 --> 1:18:42.080
<v Speaker 1>like halfway actually, and it's too bad.

1:18:42.120 --> 1:18:44.880
<v Speaker 3>We've missed every quote unquote big event.

1:18:44.920 --> 1:18:47.200
<v Speaker 2>We've missed the four Majors, and the players didn't get finished,

1:18:47.360 --> 1:18:50.000
<v Speaker 2>and so you know, you feel like the golfleet doesn't

1:18:50.000 --> 1:18:52.200
<v Speaker 2>even start until now almost, is what a lot of guys,

1:18:52.280 --> 1:18:54.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, feel like kind of maybe Rive kicks off

1:18:54.240 --> 1:18:57.920
<v Speaker 2>the season and you go through Florida. But I'm just

1:18:57.960 --> 1:18:59.840
<v Speaker 2>super happy I don't have to make the decision because

1:18:59.840 --> 1:19:01.800
<v Speaker 2>what ever it is, people are going to be really

1:19:01.840 --> 1:19:05.960
<v Speaker 2>happy and really unhappy. I don't know about it. I'm

1:19:06.280 --> 1:19:08.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty good at sitting back and letting people make

1:19:08.360 --> 1:19:10.920
<v Speaker 2>their decisions. And either way, you got to live with

1:19:10.960 --> 1:19:11.639
<v Speaker 2>it and you got to make.

1:19:11.520 --> 1:19:12.080
<v Speaker 3>The best of it.

1:19:12.160 --> 1:19:16.519
<v Speaker 2>So I just hoped that, you know, everyone, like everyone else,

1:19:16.560 --> 1:19:18.559
<v Speaker 2>I hope this goes away sooner rather than later.

1:19:18.560 --> 1:19:20.120
<v Speaker 3>I hope everyone stays healthy.

1:19:19.880 --> 1:19:23.479
<v Speaker 2>And you know, I hope the economy is okay after

1:19:23.479 --> 1:19:23.720
<v Speaker 2>all this.

1:19:24.320 --> 1:19:26.200
<v Speaker 3>That's a whole other world to go down.

1:19:26.240 --> 1:19:29.040
<v Speaker 2>But I just hope that everything comes out okay and

1:19:29.200 --> 1:19:32.400
<v Speaker 2>when it I really really think that the world needs sports.

1:19:32.400 --> 1:19:34.719
<v Speaker 2>So if you think about major moments that we've had

1:19:35.360 --> 1:19:37.880
<v Speaker 2>in the past, like sports brings people together.

1:19:37.920 --> 1:19:39.879
<v Speaker 3>It gives them a relief, an outlet.

1:19:39.960 --> 1:19:42.439
<v Speaker 2>So you know, I remember after nine to eleven, Bush

1:19:42.479 --> 1:19:44.479
<v Speaker 2>throughout the first pitch at Yankee Stadium, and it was

1:19:44.479 --> 1:19:48.080
<v Speaker 2>like this amazing moment. It was like united, like this

1:19:48.760 --> 1:19:52.080
<v Speaker 2>as divided as a country is, whether you're black, white, purple,

1:19:52.840 --> 1:19:55.599
<v Speaker 2>or you're leaning left or leaning right, like it doesn't

1:19:55.920 --> 1:19:57.479
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't really matter at this point. We just need

1:19:57.520 --> 1:19:59.880
<v Speaker 2>to do the right thing for everybody around us, and

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<v Speaker 2>whatever that is.

1:20:01.320 --> 1:20:01.680
<v Speaker 3>Do it.

1:20:01.800 --> 1:20:04.600
<v Speaker 2>And then whatever if we can get NBA to go

1:20:04.640 --> 1:20:06.800
<v Speaker 2>to Vegas and play their their games and just stick

1:20:06.800 --> 1:20:09.400
<v Speaker 2>everybody hotel where they're isolated and play a game, and

1:20:09.680 --> 1:20:13.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure they have resources to figure that out. No fans, obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>I think golf.

1:20:13.840 --> 1:20:16.600
<v Speaker 3>Could play with no fans. It would be limited volunteers.

1:20:16.640 --> 1:20:18.640
<v Speaker 2>You wouldn't have people in the locker room, play out

1:20:18.640 --> 1:20:20.400
<v Speaker 2>of you know, like go mini tour style, play out

1:20:20.400 --> 1:20:22.920
<v Speaker 2>of the trunk of her cars, bring your own food.

1:20:23.120 --> 1:20:27.160
<v Speaker 1>You could have coverage and better competition without fans.

1:20:28.320 --> 1:20:31.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean you could do so much stuff with

1:20:31.439 --> 1:20:35.599
<v Speaker 2>and then Yeah, sure, I mean there's a you would

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<v Speaker 2>get a lot of It'd be different, but I think

1:20:37.920 --> 1:20:39.439
<v Speaker 2>that you would still get great competition.

1:20:39.520 --> 1:20:41.479
<v Speaker 3>The players would still play and it would be I

1:20:41.520 --> 1:20:42.280
<v Speaker 3>think it'd be great.

1:20:42.320 --> 1:20:44.120
<v Speaker 2>So I don't care who comes back, but we need

1:20:44.160 --> 1:20:47.479
<v Speaker 2>sports somewhere somehow to have an outlet for you know,

1:20:47.520 --> 1:20:49.759
<v Speaker 2>we can only watch so many old school classics before

1:20:50.280 --> 1:20:51.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, those kind of run out as well.

1:20:51.720 --> 1:20:53.200
<v Speaker 3>So I don't care what it is.

1:20:53.240 --> 1:20:56.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't care if NBA or Baseball or somebody figure

1:20:56.520 --> 1:20:57.960
<v Speaker 2>out a way to get sports back in the world

1:20:58.080 --> 1:20:59.800
<v Speaker 2>so people have an outlet. I don't care if it's

1:20:59.840 --> 1:21:02.120
<v Speaker 2>called or not, but sometimes a sports somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I like your idea of the season and a half.

1:21:05.360 --> 1:21:07.479
<v Speaker 1>I think that makes actually a ton of sense. And

1:21:07.640 --> 1:21:10.320
<v Speaker 1>I've been thinking about it. It's like I've always said,

1:21:10.360 --> 1:21:12.960
<v Speaker 1>just wipe it and start over, but it doesn't. It's

1:21:13.000 --> 1:21:14.920
<v Speaker 1>not really fair to somebody having a great year.

1:21:15.680 --> 1:21:17.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, you got Sung Jamis leading the fed

1:21:17.560 --> 1:21:19.000
<v Speaker 2>Ice Cup. You got a guy like me, he's off

1:21:19.040 --> 1:21:19.880
<v Speaker 2>to a pretty good start.

1:21:20.800 --> 1:21:24.439
<v Speaker 3>You got guys like you know who maybe have won

1:21:24.479 --> 1:21:26.400
<v Speaker 3>for the first time or something like that. You can't

1:21:26.960 --> 1:21:28.680
<v Speaker 3>wipe that out. So I think you just carried over

1:21:28.760 --> 1:21:29.120
<v Speaker 3>and the other.

1:21:29.240 --> 1:21:31.120
<v Speaker 2>You can't just move this season ahead because then you're

1:21:31.800 --> 1:21:35.040
<v Speaker 2>these these fall tournaments. You can't just you know, we're

1:21:35.040 --> 1:21:37.840
<v Speaker 2>gonna play the Masters and where Vegas is, Like, I mean,

1:21:37.880 --> 1:21:40.599
<v Speaker 2>you can do that, but like it'd be terrible, you can't,

1:21:40.880 --> 1:21:42.559
<v Speaker 2>So I say you just roll it over.

1:21:43.280 --> 1:21:45.479
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what they do with the past. De

1:21:45.560 --> 1:21:47.320
<v Speaker 3>Vinci didn't work out. I'm not smart enough to figure

1:21:47.360 --> 1:21:49.320
<v Speaker 3>that out. But get everybody a fair shot.

1:21:49.479 --> 1:21:54.560
<v Speaker 2>Let them just kind of continue where they're at and.

1:21:52.800 --> 1:21:55.320
<v Speaker 1>And you'll see more big names play in spots they

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<v Speaker 1>don't usually play.

1:21:56.920 --> 1:22:00.160
<v Speaker 2>Whatever first tournament that comes back is could be the

1:22:00.160 --> 1:22:01.479
<v Speaker 2>greatest field in histuy, Like, can.

1:22:01.360 --> 1:22:04.200
<v Speaker 3>You imagine if it's like.

1:22:03.160 --> 1:22:05.640
<v Speaker 2>Like the John Dear and everybody's just I mean you have,

1:22:05.720 --> 1:22:08.720
<v Speaker 2>like it's better than the players field or something. It'd

1:22:08.760 --> 1:22:11.280
<v Speaker 2>just be mind boggling. What would what would come back?

1:22:11.360 --> 1:22:13.640
<v Speaker 2>So maybe it's a barber salt or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It would just be awesome to watch players play.

1:22:18.000 --> 1:22:20.400
<v Speaker 1>Tiger comes back to the Quad Cities in place for

1:22:20.479 --> 1:22:23.000
<v Speaker 1>the first time since he, uh, since Ed Fiori took

1:22:23.040 --> 1:22:24.240
<v Speaker 1>him down in ninety six.

1:22:25.240 --> 1:22:28.000
<v Speaker 3>Is that a real story? That's awesome to look into that.

1:22:28.439 --> 1:22:31.640
<v Speaker 1>It's a it's a great story, he called. He was

1:22:31.840 --> 1:22:35.120
<v Speaker 1>he was talking about retiring golf from golf the week

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<v Speaker 1>before and captaining a charter boat. And then the next

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<v Speaker 1>week he beat Tiger, and then the next in a

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<v Speaker 1>final round, Tiger had the lead in a final round.

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<v Speaker 1>Next guy to beat Tiger was y. Yeah in that situation.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's so awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the Tiger comes.

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<v Speaker 3>Where we need it. We need where is Ed Fiori,

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<v Speaker 3>Now that's what we need.

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<v Speaker 1>He's I did a flashback Friday on Ed Fiori. So

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<v Speaker 1>but he just is like hanging out at a pool

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<v Speaker 1>in his house. Calls him the pool boy.

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<v Speaker 3>Now good for him. Well, that's so awesome, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that'd be fun whatever it may be. I

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<v Speaker 3>hope it. I hope it all works out in the end.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Hey, thanks for the time. People can follow you

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter. You're active there and hopefully everybody's got a

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<v Speaker 1>new player to root for, so I hope.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, thanks for having me on, Andy, I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure, I'll hopefully see you in a few

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<v Speaker 1>months when this thing gets gets going again.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm looking forward to it for sure. All right,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, take care, thanks man, you bet