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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Frida Egg Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Today I am joined by PGA Tour player Joel Damon.

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Speaker 1: Joel lives down in Scottsdale, Arizona. He is from Washington

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Speaker 1: originally and has been on tour for a couple of

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Speaker 1: years amidst the best year of his career. It's on

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Speaker 1: pause right now, but he will be back out there

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Speaker 1: as soon as golf is back out there. It was

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Speaker 1: fun talking to Joel, one of my favorite follows on

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Speaker 1: Twitter of all the pro golfers.

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Speaker 2: I miss the green for example, I'm already upset when

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Speaker 2: I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset.

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Speaker 3: And when I find my ball in Arid Egg Frida

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Speaker 3: Egg Friday, Friday.

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Speaker 1: Bride Egg Lie, I'm about ready to run off the

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Speaker 1: golf course. Hey, how good is Nick Taylor at Mario.

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Speaker 2: Kart Legit no joke, like top ten in the world.

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Speaker 2: He's a way better Mario Kart player than he has

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Speaker 2: a PJ. Griblair by far. You can look at he

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Speaker 2: this last week or something on his Twitter.

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Speaker 3: He put out.

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Speaker 2: Some of his lap times and they're like no one's

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Speaker 2: even coming close, Like it's it's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: So that's that's a legit claim. That is a real

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Speaker 1: thing in Canada.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean I would be.

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Speaker 2: You know, I mean, obviously there's maybe somebody else out

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Speaker 2: there who's been playing it for the last twenty five years.

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Speaker 2: But the amount of time that Nick spent, Kevin Spooner spent,

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Speaker 2: was there other roommate, a college sculfer at you dub

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Speaker 2: and then myself, I was a distant third among the

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Speaker 2: three of us. But I still have not met somebody

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Speaker 2: who can beat me consistently in a race. So they

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Speaker 2: they have better drifting capabilities and they're better peer drivers,

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Speaker 2: but I still be somebody who can beat me the

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Speaker 2: way that I use items, the way that I understand

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Speaker 2: kind of how to race.

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Speaker 3: It is just I haven't.

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Speaker 2: So Nick and Kevin are way better than I'll ever be,

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Speaker 2: and I'm better than i've I've never raised somebody who

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Speaker 2: can touch me.

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Speaker 1: It's funny how when you play with somebody that is

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Speaker 1: like really good at something like I haven't. I had

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Speaker 1: a buddy who won a state title in tennis, and

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Speaker 1: playing him in like paddle tennis and ping pong growing up,

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Speaker 1: I would just get waxed. I couldn't even like core points.

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Speaker 1: But then you play somebody else and you're like, you

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Speaker 1: just kill them. But exactly, guys are really good. They

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Speaker 1: just it's like demoralizing playing it really is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're I mean, it's it is remarkable. I know

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Speaker 2: that Nick has kicked up.

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Speaker 3: He actually his.

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Speaker 2: Place here in scott still. He's you know, he's been

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Speaker 2: here for the last but over two or three weeks,

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Speaker 2: and he's.

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Speaker 1: Moved.

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Speaker 2: He had to get an old TV that had the

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Speaker 2: proper av jacks, took up the instinct spot. He moved

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Speaker 2: it into the proper living room and he set it

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Speaker 2: up and he has this whole thing just set up

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Speaker 3: So he's been putting time in for sure.

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Speaker 1: He's getting in peak season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Now would be a bad time to race neck.

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Speaker 1: So you what have you been doing with this huge break?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I'm I'm pretty good at doing nothing,

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Speaker 2: like one of the best to doing nothing.

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Speaker 3: So this doesn't really bother me too much.

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously I want to be out there playing

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Speaker 2: and competing, but it's great to be home. I got

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Speaker 2: a great black lab he's six years old named Murphy W.

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Speaker 2: I hang out with all the time. He just dropped

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Speaker 2: go outside and play. My wife is unbelievable cook, so

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Speaker 2: she's been cooking a ton. I've been doing puzzles, playing

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Speaker 2: board games. Have not unpacked my bag, so laundry doesn't

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Speaker 2: really happened. I still have the bag from the Players

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Speaker 2: Championship in my room. Travel bag is still in the

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Speaker 2: But we have a nice backyard, a nice pool. I

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Speaker 1: I feel like I call cornhole bags.

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Speaker 3: I don't know it's the thing, but I think it's

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Speaker 1: I feel like golfers are like the best bags players

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Speaker 2: Almost yeah, yeah, sure, I mean, yeah, you could definitely

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Speaker 2: make that argument. I think that a lot of golfers

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Speaker 2: are great at bar games, or you know, I don't

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Speaker 2: have any bar games necessarily, but you know, other other

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Speaker 2: I think golfers are some of the best athletes at

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Speaker 2: I mean it's you get ping pong, or you get darts,

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Speaker 2: you get bags or cornhole, you get little things like that.

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Speaker 3: Pretty pretty tough bunch, you know.

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Speaker 2: You If you take the best golfers, man, I think

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Speaker 2: we'd suck up pretty well across the board.

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Speaker 1: Anything that doesn't require like speed and athleticism.

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Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. I mean, uh yeah, I think that's pretty fair.

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Speaker 3: Obviously we can't we can't hold our own on any

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Speaker 2: But I would put you know, if you took the

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Speaker 2: I guess I would call him a maybe out a six.

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Speaker 3: Pack of beer on the side. I think the golfers

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Speaker 3: would be pretty darn good at it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I I agree with that. Especially the more

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Speaker 1: beer you put involved in it, it's the better, I guess.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean I imagine, you know, you get a

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Speaker 2: Coltons can probably play, and he's retired now, but I

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Speaker 2: imagine Gary Woodland with with the bags would be unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: So you get you know, decent athletes out there, and

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Speaker 2: I mean Rory's out there playing tennis like he's ripping

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Speaker 3: I mean that's pretty impressive stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I imagine the skill of being good at doing

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Speaker 1: nothing is actually probably pretty valuable as a tour pro

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Speaker 1: because we do.

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Speaker 2: A lot of that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, I feel.

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Speaker 1: Like that's a misconception, is that, like you guys actually

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Speaker 2: No, and rest and recovery is just important as you

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Speaker 2: know out you know, when we're out there practicing all

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Speaker 2: an afternoon tea time, then you have all morning do nothing.

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Speaker 2: If you have a morning tea time, you're early off

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Speaker 2: so yeah, some guys travel with video games on the road,

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Speaker 2: doing nothing is definitely a skilly Neal and PJ tour,

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Speaker 2: especially when you take days off, like a Monday off.

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Speaker 1: Do you prefer a certain draw Do you like going

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Speaker 2: I like late early, so I like going off yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think the golf course changes less in that time period.

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Speaker 2: If you play early Thursday and late Friday, golf course

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Speaker 2: Tinday and we can get firm and fast on Friday afternoon,

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Speaker 2: where Thursday morning is typically the easiest time of the

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Speaker 3: You know, everything is still kind of wet and slow.

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Speaker 2: And but also if you play well Thursday afternoon, all

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Speaker 3: You're in a good rhythm still most of the time.

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Speaker 2: And I like posting early Friday because then you go

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Speaker 2: out later Saturday as well, And I don't know, I'd

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Speaker 2: be really curious. I guess the dad is out there somewhere,

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Speaker 2: but it'd be really interesting to see what my splits

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Speaker 2: could play better wrong, because I feel like I play

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Speaker 2: better late early, but maybe that's not the case at all.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the better one too, because, like you said,

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Speaker 1: if you play well, you're just basically continuing the round.

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Speaker 1: Like there's nothing better than just getting to keep going.

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Speaker 1: When you're playing well, you know, absolutely, Yeah, the more

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Speaker 1: usually goes. So any any hobbies that you picked up

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Speaker 1: while you're while you've been doing that, you said, puzzles, anything, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So.

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Speaker 2: The we've been quarantining with the Harkins. Brandon Harkins played

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Speaker 2: seeing is Brandon his life Rachel. They puzzle like crazy.

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Speaker 2: He also play a lot of dominoes. That's a game

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Speaker 2: we just picked up. My wife and I they've been playing,

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Speaker 2: you know, their whole lives. I was kind of family

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Speaker 3: That's been fun. It's cars it's very slight.

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Speaker 2: No, So we've been quarantinating with the Harkins and playing dominoes.

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Speaker 3: So that's that's a fun way. Puzzlers one right next

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Speaker 3: to me. It is a kind of every city, every

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Speaker 3: It's a great way to pass the time.

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Speaker 2: Digging into a couple of bottles of wine has been

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Speaker 2: has been nicely. We've kind of gathered a large white

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Speaker 3: Uh, So we've been kind of digging into that.

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Speaker 2: And I've been reading a couple of books, uh, Ryan Holliday,

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Speaker 2: which actually Rory kind of made famous this last year.

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Speaker 2: I actually read The Ego as the Enemy prior to

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Speaker 2: that and The Obstacle Is Away. Those are two books

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Speaker 2: that are pretty popular read. It's some of those. And

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Speaker 2: I can watch Netflix with anybody, man, I can crush

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Speaker 2: the Netflix. So that and between social media and just

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Speaker 1: What are your Netflix recommendations everybody?

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Speaker 2: Well, Tiger King is obviously uh popular. I probably watched

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Speaker 2: that at this point. I think we're gonna start Ozark soon.

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Speaker 2: We watched My Wife.

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Speaker 3: It's just garbage, garbage, TV, but it's called the Circle.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't. I couldn't. I can only do it in

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Speaker 3: It is so bad.

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Speaker 2: But it was like I was looking at kind of

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Speaker 2: on the competitive aspect, they're trying to win the game,

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Speaker 3: Fish each other, whatever the whole deal was.

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Speaker 2: So that one for me like kind of got me

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Speaker 2: it was pretty funny. But I also watched on Netflix recently,

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Speaker 1: PGA tour, did you feel like, what's the difference at

444
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Speaker 1: each level? I guess, and how you felt does it

445
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Speaker 1: take it? Did it take time to acclimate and and

446
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Speaker 1: really start to feel comfortable at each level or did

447
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Speaker 1: it you know were there? You know, did you always

448
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 1: feel comfortable at a certain level and there was a

449
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Speaker 1: moment where you know you had to you felt like

450
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Speaker 1: you had to adjust.

451
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

452
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Speaker 3: I always felt comfortable in the Canadian tour. I just

453
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,960
Speaker 3: wasn't super sharp.

454
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Speaker 2: I had to, you know, just get a little bit

455
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Speaker 2: better at everything kind of deal. I always hit the

456
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 2: battle kaye chipped and putted okay, but Canada was just

457
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 2: kind of just sticking to it and you know, grinding

458
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Speaker 2: it out a little bit and staying patient up there,

459
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,920
Speaker 2: which is hard to do. But felt okay on the

460
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 2: Web Tour now the corn Fairy Tour, I guess. But

461
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 2: I did okay out there first year, hung around. I

462
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 2: didn't feel overwhelmed because there wasn't you were playing with

463
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,440
Speaker 2: like your childhood heroes. You weren't playing with Saw on

464
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:01,919
Speaker 2: TV all the time. It was just kind of a

465
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Speaker 2: you know, show up and play the event and hopefully

466
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Speaker 2: you do okay. And I did find out there, But

467
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 2: as soon as I got to the PJ Tour, I

468
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 2: was kind of in shell shock. I was wet eyed

469
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 2: and bushy tailed, and didn't really know if I belonged

470
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Speaker 2: or not.

471
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Speaker 3: I don't.

472
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Speaker 2: It took a long time. The rookie year, I had

473
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Speaker 2: no sense of belonging. I didn't think that's good enough.

474
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Speaker 2: Only got to play in sixteen events because I was

475
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Speaker 2: playing poorly, and then you know that the numbers didn't

476
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Speaker 2: work out for me very well. Then luckily got my

477
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Speaker 2: card back through the Web Tour finals, so I got

478
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Speaker 2: into a crack at it and started to show some

479
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 2: promise on a little bit better golf and got more

480
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Speaker 2: comfortable out there, and about halfway through the year, I

481
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:42,640
Speaker 2: was skinted, picking it up a little.

482
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Speaker 3: Bit and feeling like I compete.

483
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Speaker 2: And then I went on a nice run in the

484
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Speaker 2: summer of you know, I finished fifth and then second,

485
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Speaker 2: and then I get another top ten the week after that.

486
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Speaker 3: So it was like a really good run that let

487
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Speaker 3: me know.

488
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 2: That I could compete out there and hang around for

489
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Speaker 2: a long time, and what I had was good enough.

490
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Speaker 2: So I mean, it probably took me thirty events before

491
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Speaker 2: I felt okay on the VJ Tour like I should

492
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 2: be out here week in and week out.

493
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Speaker 3: I can't compete, you know, with.

494
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Speaker 2: With most of these guys, and then, uh, you know,

495
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 2: getting better a little bit too helps, But for me,

496
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 2: it was it was thirty events.

497
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Speaker 3: It was a year and a half before I feld

498
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Speaker 3: okay out there about.

499
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Speaker 2: Actually showing up to events knowing I could compete, knowing

500
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Speaker 2: that I could be out here a while, and to

501
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:24,439
Speaker 2: get colpful with it.

502
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Speaker 1: I imagine at every level you're you're seeing people like

503
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 1: your peers that you've played with your entire life, and

504
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,160
Speaker 1: then it becomes smaller and smaller every way every step up,

505
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 1: and then that you get the PGA Tour, and there's

506
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 1: so few of them around. It's so exactly so a

507
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: few familiar faces, uh being you had your status when

508
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 1: you came out. You were number twenty five on the

509
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: on the web money list, and so that gave you

510
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,439
Speaker 1: just a spot where you just didn't How hard was

511
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: it not knowing when you were going to play even.

512
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was really tough. In the year that I

513
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Speaker 3: came in, it like.

514
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Speaker 2: In the fall of sixteen was my rookie year, and

515
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 2: the numbers were absolutely forever reason. I don't know exactly why,

516
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 2: but nobody on the web was getting any starts and

517
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 2: I definitely wasn't. So I only played two events in

518
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 2: the fall. I got into my rookie year. I got

519
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Speaker 2: into Sanderson Farms, which is a half point event, and

520
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 2: I got into RSM Sea Island, So it's two events

521
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 2: in the fall. I missed both cuts. I only got

522
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 2: in two events on the West Coast. I got into

523
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Speaker 2: Palm Springs on a sponsor invite because they had to

524
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Speaker 2: give the last of the corn ferry guys a spot,

525
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Speaker 2: so I got there.

526
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Speaker 3: And I got into Pebble Beach, which.

527
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Speaker 2: Everyone gets into because it's a big field with three

528
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 2: courses and.

529
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Speaker 1: You're playing celebrity that yeah, yeah, exactly, so I exactly.

530
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Speaker 2: I played in two proms, so four events through the

531
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Speaker 2: West Coast Swing, and I made a cut at Pebble,

532
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:54,360
Speaker 2: but I finished.

533
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Speaker 3: Like last so through like February, and then I didn't.

534
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Speaker 2: I saw it was bttom in the web list because

535
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 2: I started the bottom made one cut, and then I

536
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 2: didn't get anything in Florida. That's another four weeks off,

537
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 2: and I finally got into Puerto Rico, which is a

538
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,439
Speaker 2: half point event again, and I think I got into

539
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 2: Valero maybe. So I had like six events through like March,

540
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 2: which is just brutal and when you only made one cut.

541
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Speaker 2: So by the time I could actually start playing, I

542
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 2: didn't play back to back weeks on tour until after

543
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 2: the US opened, which is people don't realize that from

544
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 2: the outside, Like if you don't play well in the

545
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 2: fall and that web out of that corn ferry membership,

546
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 2: like you can drop a long ways or you can

547
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 2: rise a long ways to gets you in a ton

548
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 2: of events where it's too bad that I don't know

549
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 2: what the answer is. I'm not smart enough to figure

550
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 2: out what the answer is. You get more playing opportunities,

551
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 2: but if you get behind the ball early, it is

552
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 2: really tough to get out of it.

553
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then and then you're it's it's mid June

554
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 1: or late June, and you're so far down. You got

555
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 1: so much pressure. Every time you may make a starts

556
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: like I better play really well. I gotta I've got

557
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: to get three hundred and fifty fed X Cup points

558
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: and exactly five eight ten starts. It's I mean, it's

559
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 1: interesting because you've got all these like you've got past

560
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 1: champion statuses that pull in, and you've got the medicals

561
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: and you know, I know, like this year that we

562
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 1: saw fields that had like eighteen medical guys and it

563
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: and it's even you know, you're even got guys with

564
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: full status that are having trouble getting into events, you know,

565
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: And it's a it's an interesting situation because you just

566
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Speaker 1: have there are so many guys with some sort of status.

567
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

568
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 3: I don't know how many actually categories there are on

569
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 3: the PDO Tour like.

570
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 2: Exemption or whatever, but there's a ton. I don't know

571
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 2: if there's too many. I don't know how to make

572
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 2: it more fair.

573
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 3: I don't know how to get my.

574
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 2: More guys more starts, but it's not easy, and the

575
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 2: answer is better, But what if everybody plays better, then

576
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 2: that's it's still unfair to somebody. So I wish I

577
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 2: knew the answer. If you made fields bigger, if you

578
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 2: because you know you have daylight for daylight problems for

579
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 2: for half the time.

580
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 3: So you go to two courses on some events. It's tough.

581
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 2: It's it's a lot harder once you can keep it's

582
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 2: harder to keep your card.

583
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 3: It's harder to get.

584
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 2: On the tour than to keep your card, but it's

585
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 2: even harder to keep your card the first year. Once

586
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 2: you can do that, then you can set your schedule

587
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 2: a little bit and you already know what you're doing

588
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 2: and you can kind of plan it around and be okay.

589
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 3: It's the hardest thing in the world, is rookie to

590
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 3: keep your card.

591
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 1: And then if you win, it's really hard to lose

592
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 1: your card.

593
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, then you get into you get into all

594
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 2: the invites, you get in.

595
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 3: Some bigger stuff. I call it the PGA Tour and

596
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 3: the PGB Tour.

597
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 2: The PGA Tour is top fifty in the world where

598
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 2: you get in all the majors, You get into the WGCs.

599
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 3: I mean that is really you. She get in the

600
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Speaker 3: top fifty. It's hard to drop out of the top fifty.

601
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 2: You can cruise and hang in there for a long time.

602
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 2: Now it's really hard to crack that top twenty. You

603
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 2: got to be really golf in your ball. But you

604
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 2: see a lot of guys hanging between thirty and fifty

605
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 2: for a long time, you know, and that's it's just

606
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 2: hard to be. The other thing is, if you're a

607
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 2: guy like me as a journeyman, if you I have

608
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:25,199
Speaker 2: the divisor of.

609
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 3: The world rankings, I don't really know how it works,

610
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 3: but I have fifty.

611
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 2: We're always playing every event we can to keep our

612
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 2: status and to keep going.

613
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 3: So now our divisor's fully maxed out.

614
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 2: Or maybe there's some guy who only has forty events

615
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 2: on there, so he's devising by less events and he

616
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 2: gets more points per event.

617
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there, and he is a floor in some

618
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: of those events. Like say he's a guy that plays

619
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: a hero and like automatically gets the equivalent of a

620
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: top fifty in a regular event.

621
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 2: Right, which is easy to bitch and moan about when

622
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 2: you're on the outside.

623
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Speaker 3: But if I get there as soon as I get there,

624
00:28:58,640 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 3: I'm like.

625
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is great, this is totally fair, and you

626
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 2: are making all the money and you're doing whatever you want.

627
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 3: And he satisfied contracts, and like.

628
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 2: I get it's I don't I don't know how to

629
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 2: change his system. I know the tour is working on

630
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 2: revising the world ranking system to make it more.

631
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 3: Pg T or heavy or I guess more equals what

632
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 3: they're trying to do.

633
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 2: There's a lot of guys maybe who play other tours,

634
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 2: who are getting more points in some events that maybe

635
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 2: just don't quite add up. I know that's kind of

636
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 2: been an off and on squabble. It's kind of fun

637
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 2: to see on social media when somebody calls out a

638
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 2: year tour player, a guy from you know, plays at

639
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 2: Japan too, or something like that. But I always enjoy those.

640
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know how, I'm not smart enough.

641
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 2: I'm not the expert, but I know that, Like, here's

642
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 2: a great answance is Nick Taylor won the Pebble Beach

643
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 2: Invite that's whatever.

644
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 3: A couple months ago. It was ranked like two hundred

645
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 3: and fiftieth in the world, and it kept his card

646
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 3: for five previous seasons. On two or the one win. Like, man,

647
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 3: that's pretty hard to do.

648
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 2: It wasn't like lighting it up every week, you know,

649
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 2: and he would maybe finished one, you know, around one

650
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 2: hundred and one twenty.

651
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 3: Five for a couple of those years.

652
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 2: But man, I'd be hard pressed if some guys more

653
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 2: consistent for that over five years. It was all the

654
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 2: way down to two fifty in a world, so little

655
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 2: things like that where I think that hopefully they fix

656
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 2: it and maybe make it more player's.

657
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 3: Not the right word, but maybe better for a guy

658
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 3: like me.

659
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: This is a question I always think about this a

660
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: ton is as a player, do you admire your peers

661
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: that are seemingly always in the mix but win very

662
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: little or the guys that you know win a lot

663
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: when they but they aren't necessarily they're guys that kind

664
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: of pop up and win, but then they're you know,

665
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: they might miss some cuts.

666
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 2: And so it's weird how the PG tour works out,

667
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 2: so it doesn't actually give you bonuses for being consistent,

668
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 2: Like if you just finished consistent fifty to twentieth, it

669
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 2: really doesn't get you that far on tour. You need

670
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 2: like top five, top tens are good, but you'd really

671
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 2: need like top fives and wins are.

672
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 3: Obviously through the roof or even that top two or three.

673
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 2: So I think it's really impressive to have like ten

674
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 2: top twenty fives in a year, or if you have

675
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 2: like seven or eight top tens in a year is awesome.

676
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 3: But maybe you don't crack it.

677
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: You know.

678
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 2: It's it's really hard to win. It takes some luck,

679
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 2: you know, it takes a bounce here there, You got

680
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 2: to make a pun at the right time, and sometimes

681
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 2: it just doesn't happen, and you can't. The harder you

682
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 2: push for that, you know, or you can't naturally try

683
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 2: and win a golf for I guess, so I'm impressive

684
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 2: the guys who are consistent, who really weak in and

685
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 2: week out or around they play tough courses. Well, those

686
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 2: guys who can kind of play any golf course in

687
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 2: any condition or are more impressive than me than maybe

688
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 2: a guy who wins like two twice a year, wins

689
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 2: like once a year all the time, but just kind

690
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 2: of never it's like either he's hotter, he's cold. I

691
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 2: think it's more impressive to play a good golf week

692
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 2: in and week out, but the tour doesn't really reward

693
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 2: that yeah.

694
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: I I always think about like Louis U Sason with

695
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: him and majors, he's he's people are always going to

696
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: look he's gonna be like, oh no, PGA Tour wins,

697
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: only one major win, you know, ten wins around the world.

698
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: But you think about like the last twelve years of majors,

699
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: he's been a factor in probably twelve to fifteen major

700
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: championships where.

701
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 2: He's finished second, and every one has any second players

702
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 2: as well.

703
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: It's like if a bounce goes one way or another way,

704
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: or putt falls, he's gonna he might have three majors.

705
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 3: You know.

706
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: It's just a crazy thing about golf is especially now

707
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: we have this break, Like you know, you I feel

708
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: like everybody in golf media, including myself, has been looking

709
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: back at like historic tournaments and you just start to

710
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: see these guys that pop up all the time, and

711
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: you're like, you know, this guy's got this many wins,

712
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: but this guy was way more present and more big

713
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,719
Speaker 1: events and more big moments at times. You played your

714
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: first majors or your career last year, what was that

715
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: like compared to your regular tour event.

716
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 2: I'll say the Open Championship was the coolest event I've

717
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 2: ever played in.

718
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 3: By Miles, the vibe over there, I shouldn't say the vibe, the.

719
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 2: Feelings over there, the crowds we had on Tuesday Wednesday,

720
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 2: we flew in, got their Monday afternoon, you know, kind

721
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 2: of unpacked and went out for like a late ninth

722
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 2: hole and the sun was up at like ten thirty.

723
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 3: We're playing in eighteenth Pole.

724
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 2: It was back at Northern Ireland for the first time

725
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 2: in fifty or sixty years, an incredible golf course. Like

726
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 2: for me, that was my first time ever crossing in

727
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,239
Speaker 2: the Atlantic. I had never been over there before, so

728
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 2: like it was just like mystical, magical, amazing experience. I

729
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 2: didn't play very well, but I think it was just

730
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 2: too caught up and having fun. Like I had a

731
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 2: four iron to like forty feet on a tough hole

732
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,479
Speaker 2: and they all clapped like it was awesome.

733
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,959
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, yeah, you guys appreciate this. Where you

734
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 3: like stuff three When I'm a part five on tour

735
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 3: and no one cares, it's like sweet.

736
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 2: So like that experience for me was incredible. There's more

737
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 2: people like Beth Page was fine. There's a lot of

738
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 2: people out there and it's a big tournament, but like

739
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 2: when you're cruising around in thirtieth and I think I

740
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 2: eventually finished. I shot a million on Sunday, but it's

741
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 2: just more people around.

742
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 3: I didn't feel like the PJA was all.

743
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 2: That special, which it's probably terrible of me to say,

744
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 2: but like the players of me and figure in the PGA.

745
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 2: But the US Open at Pebble was awesome, but I

746
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 2: feel like they didn't let them any fans in compared

747
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 2: to what they could have. Maybe logistics was kind of

748
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 2: a pain in the ass around Pebble because it's just

749
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 2: such a tight area.

750
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 3: Like I rented a house.

751
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 2: Not far from the I mean, like I do every

752
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 2: year for at and T and it took me an

753
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 2: hour to get to the golf course.

754
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 3: Like speed forw Seneticker all had to hop out of

755
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 3: their cars.

756
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 2: Jump a fence into the property of the golf course,

757
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 2: catch a shuttle to get to where it's going. Only

758
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 2: when when I got to the golf course only in

759
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,919
Speaker 2: thirty minutes to warm up on my first round because

760
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 2: it was so like a bust had like route like

761
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 2: crashed or something like on the only route end of

762
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 2: the golf course and it was a mess.

763
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 3: So that.

764
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 2: But Pebble Beach is my favorite place on Earth for golf,

765
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 2: and I think it's just me. And we had perfect

766
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 2: weather that week for most.

767
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 3: Of the week.

768
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 2: But I just felt like the US Open was my

769
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 2: first one. I was so happy to do, but I

770
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 2: just felt like it'd be bigger and it's like better,

771
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 2: Like everything's good about it, but I just felt like

772
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 2: it'd be more. I would have more feelings all the

773
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 2: way around the golf course the way I had feelings

774
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 2: at the Open Championship all the way around the golf course.

775
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,240
Speaker 1: Did was that it sounds like so like the Open.

776
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: Was that you played in one US Am? Was that

777
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 1: like when you played in the US Am when you're

778
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: a kid, like I feel like that would that would

779
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: be like an elevated experience almost absolutely?

780
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, by far, I mean for a kid

781
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 2: who only really played on the West Coast, Yeah, to

782
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 2: play at Pinehurst and lay in US M, it was

783
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 2: you felt like, you know, was hitting pro v's in

784
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 2: the way Tree felt like a you know, a very

785
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 2: big time event, which it is. You know, I think

786
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 2: it's still super prestigious. I think it's one of my

787
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 2: favorite events, especially to watch now, but they do an

788
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 2: unbelievable job without the history of it too is great

789
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 2: and I feel like the Open Championship has more of

790
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 2: that feeling than certainly some of the majors over here.

791
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 1: Uh with the with the links goff and playing the Open.

792
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 1: Did you did you like the style of golf was?

793
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: Did it was it? Did it feel different and you

794
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,240
Speaker 1: know than your regular tour tour golf?

795
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course.

796
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 2: I mean most of the time here in the States,

797
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 2: we're just flying it to a number and it kind

798
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 2: of stays around that number. I love when the ball bounces,

799
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 2: the runoffs around the green. You hit so many different

800
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 2: shots around the greens. You can putt it or hybrid

801
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 2: it or you know. Sometimes over there there was enough

802
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 2: room and the greens were soft up where you could

803
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 2: lie it around the greens and spin it a little bit.

804
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 2: But the winds blow in different angles all the time.

805
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 2: There's just so many different options over there, which is

806
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 2: is awesome. I think it's I don't know if it

807
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 2: necessarily fits my golf the best, but I have a blast.

808
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 3: I have a blast. Thing you have to think around,

809
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 3: You have to think on every shot of there, where's

810
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 3: this all gon.

811
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 2: To run can it run into the bunker, because if

812
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 2: you hitting a bunker up there, you just have to

813
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 2: wedge it out. So I had a blast with it,

814
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 2: I hope. Unfortunately, I think it just got canceled, That's

815
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 2: what it sounds like. And I just qualified for it

816
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 2: again this year, which I was super excited for.

817
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,479
Speaker 3: So I'm hoping I can.

818
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 2: Get over there and play play some more golf if

819
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 2: I continue to play well here in the States and

820
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 2: maybe get over there for two or three more events

821
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 2: a year, and I would really enjoy that.

822
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, doing like that the Scottish Open before.

823
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

824
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 2: You could do like this the Scottish and the Irish

825
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 2: or something like that, and play the Bridge as well.

826
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 3: It would be a really fun couple of weeks over

827
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 3: there for sure.

828
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 1: Talk about, you know, the difference when you're you talked

829
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 1: about how you're like at the PGA you're just plotting along,

830
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: uh in you know, in thirtieth and the difference inside

831
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 1: the rope feel at when you're when that's going on

832
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: versus when you're you know, contending, Like you had a

833
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: really good week at at the Players last year.

834
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, no one's really at bath Page last year.

835
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, it was probably like if I had

836
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 3: a good round on Sunday, I think, you know, maybe I.

837
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 2: Shoot even I could have moved up to like a

838
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 2: top toolt or something like that, so it would have been nice.

839
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's just I don't know, you feel like

840
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 3: you have to play perfect golf in that situation.

841
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 2: For me at bath Page last year, I could miss

842
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 2: a fair way because then I'd have to chip it out.

843
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 3: There's no way I could advance towards the green.

844
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,439
Speaker 2: It was just like continue to just beat the crap

845
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 2: out of you for four days. And it was certainly

846
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 2: favored towards bombers that week, and I'm definitely not a bomber,

847
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 2: and there was just no.

848
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 3: Way around it the way you know, the rains came in.

849
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, it was wet, it was cold. It was just

850
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 2: a kind of a bad combo for my golf game

851
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 2: that week, where and you're plotting along out there and you're.

852
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 3: Like, I don't know, there's no you don't have the

853
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 3: juices going.

854
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 2: Where at Sagrass you always feel like you can make

855
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 2: a birdie or you can get it going, you know,

856
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 2: and there's there's fans out there watching. I played with

857
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 2: Jim Ferick on Sunday at the Players we shot sixty

858
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 2: to four or five, I don't know which, maybe even

859
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 2: sixty three, you know, to only lose by one, and

860
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 2: it was incredible. You know, it's kind of his home

861
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 2: e vent He's been a h resident in that area

862
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,919
Speaker 2: for a long time, so that was incredible to watch

863
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 2: him and be a part of that.

864
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 1: It's neat too because Rory wins that and Furic, who's

865
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: probably one of the shortest h on tour, finishes second.

866
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: And at beth Page I did a podcast with Jeff

867
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: Ogilvie before and he was like, listen, somebody whoever's going

868
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: to win here is going to be one of the

869
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: guys that flies at three hundred, because if you don't

870
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: fly at three hundred at beth Page, you don't have

871
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: a chance. And I think that's one of the you

872
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: hit on it a little bit with linkskoff Is. On

873
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: those types of courses, anybody, any type of player can

874
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: excel because you can use your advantages, and the same

875
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: thing for sawgrass, where you can win. Your power is

876
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: still obviously a huge advantage. Being able to hit it

877
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: three ten is always an advantage wherever you play. But

878
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: it also allows people that don't carry it three hundred

879
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: yards to have a chance.

880
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:48,479
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and I love that where I gain.

881
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 2: I think I'm like top twenty five right now and

882
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 2: driving strokesy and driving, and I very average in link

883
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 2: because courses like that where a lot of guys have

884
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 2: to hit a two iron off of tee or lay,

885
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 2: I'm going to hit my driver down there because they

886
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 2: hit it straighter and I can get it down there

887
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 2: further than a lot of guys where you know it

888
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 2: pinches in for them.

889
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 3: But I'm still gonna run it down.

890
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 2: There past them where they have to hit hybrid off

891
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 2: the t or something like that. But sawgrass makes you

892
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 2: think all the time, especially into the green. You have

893
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 2: to hit it in the right spots and all the

894
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,959
Speaker 2: part fives are reachable, but there's trouble around them, which

895
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,919
Speaker 2: I think is awesome instead of just you know, they're

896
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 2: pretty generous off to tea for the most part. And

897
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 2: then you have to make sure you position it properly

898
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 2: in the second shot. You have to miss on the

899
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 2: correct side to have a chance getting up and down,

900
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 2: because if you don't, you're not getting up and down

901
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 2: with sawgrass, which I think is great and that's why

902
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 2: anybody can win there. I mean, look through the years

903
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 2: of who's won, it's been you know Fred funk one

904
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 2: at what forty nine or something like that, Like that's

905
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 2: just incredible. Yeah, it's a perfect I think Sarga is

906
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 2: one of the best golf coart to play because anybody

907
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 2: can win. You know, you've seen Craig Perks is one

908
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,439
Speaker 2: there and you know on tiger Woods and the best

909
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 2: of all time I've always had won there. So I

910
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 2: think it's especially when it plays against a little firm

911
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 2: that would be perfect.

912
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 3: If you have good weather that.

913
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 2: Week and a little bit of wind, it would just

914
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 2: play unbelievable that week. And I think that's why Fritish Open.

915
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 2: I won't say sometimes you get a fluke winner, but

916
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 2: you know you get guys who can hang around leaderboard

917
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:16,919
Speaker 2: for a long time and plot their.

918
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 3: Way around if they're playing the correct type of goal.

919
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: What What are some of your other favorite courses that

920
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 1: you guys play.

921
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of Colonial.

922
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 2: It's fun, it's tree lined, greens are tiny, so you

923
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 2: have to you have to be pretty precise in the

924
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 2: greens there as well. You can't really overpower, so The

925
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 2: part with that is everyone hits it kind of the

926
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 2: same spots in the fairways, no matter what clip you're

927
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 2: hitting off the tea. But hilton Head's always fun. I mean,

928
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 2: I think DJ is leading through fifty four holes there

929
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 2: last year. So like a you know, a bomber can

930
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 2: play there versus ct Pan, who's you know, kind of

931
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 2: a short guy, you end up winning.

932
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 3: Anybody can compete. I like the Travelers is a great

933
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 3: golf course. I think you can get you know, everybody

934
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 3: can kind of compete.

935
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 2: Valast Bars one of my favorites in Tampa, especially when

936
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 2: it gets firm and fast.

937
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 3: I think eight under seven hundred one last year. I

938
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 3: think those are.

939
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 2: A ton of riv is. I didn't think I could

940
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 2: compete at riv but it got firm and the sun

941
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 2: came out and the wind blew, and that made it

942
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 2: awesome because you had to play the bounce a little bit.

943
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 2: You had to control your golf ball and the green.

944
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 2: You couldn't just fly it to wherever. So it's a

945
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 2: long golf course for me. But when the ball starts

946
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 2: running out, then you can play the bounce and you

947
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 2: have to control your trajectory a little bit better, and

948
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 2: and and really fitted around the golf course, which makes

949
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,280
Speaker 2: it a lot more fun versus just bombing it and

950
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 2: you know, hopefully you bomb it again. So some of

951
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 2: those are really fun. I like anything that bounces a

952
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 2: little bit. Volerio is actually not a bad golf course here.

953
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a bad rap. But if it

954
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 2: bounces a little bit, if the wind blows of Volo,

955
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 2: it's good of course.

956
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. That I feel like you get some of the

957
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: craziest weather of Vallero, Like, oh.

958
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, you'll get it all absolutely for sure.

959
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 2: Some I mean you'll get some massive hailstorms and you

960
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 2: feel like tornado's coming, and then you know, I think

961
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 2: last year was beautiful in like eighty five all weeks.

962
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 3: So it's a little bit of mix everything.

963
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. The uh that course you can make big numbers too,

964
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: with that ship all around it all over the place.

965
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're doing a better job of clearing that out too,

966
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 2: So it's a little more playable than it has been

967
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 2: in the past.

968
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 3: But yeah, if you're not driving it well or you're

969
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 3: gonna shoot a million.

970
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, So what are your your best friends growing up?

971
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: Is your caddye Gino, Yeah, getting he's gotta do the

972
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: wrap on on social media.

973
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 2: So icon, Yeah, it's pretty funny. I mean it's it's

974
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 2: an outlet for him just to kind of be himself.

975
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 3: And he's he's a goofball. He has a ton of fun.

976
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 2: He comes up with crazy ideas all the time and

977
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 2: most time he just throws them out there for the

978
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:58,720
Speaker 2: world and they think it's pretty funny.

979
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 3: So we were like, he grew up.

980
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 2: He's four years older than me, but he grew up

981
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 2: on the loose in side of the river outside of

982
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 2: where I should say in Lewiston. And he was a

983
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 2: good player, as they say TV. He was a good

984
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 2: player in his own right.

985
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 3: He went he got his PGM degree. Uh yeah, that's right,

986
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 3: you have professional golf management.

987
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 2: And he went to worked in Saholly for a bit

988
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 2: Seattle and realized he didn't like golden shirts and didn't

989
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 2: get to play as much as he flagged.

990
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 3: And so he went and got a desk job back

991
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 3: home and his wife ended up getting a pretty good job.

992
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 2: And when I got out on the web tour, he's like, Hey,

993
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 2: I'm gonna come caddy for you. And I'm like, you

994
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 2: are crazy because he don't make any money. Uh, you know,

995
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 2: I have no idea how good I am out here.

996
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 2: I don't know what's going to go on, and so.

997
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 3: He stuck by you by my side.

998
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 2: We're on our year six and it's been really fun

999
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 2: to have him out there. It's nice to have a

1000
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 2: guy who cares about me more than just you know,

1001
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 2: the golf shots I hit.

1002
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 3: Actually married my wife and I last December.

1003
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 2: So that was a lot of fun to have him, uh,

1004
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 2: to be a part of that and just been a

1005
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 2: super great guy who's who cares about me a lot.

1006
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 2: And I'm lucky to have him. And he does a

1007
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 2: great job on the bag as well. I mean he's

1008
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 2: not just he's not just a funny guy. Actually can

1009
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 2: add them subtracks and numbers for me too.

1010
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: I I mean, being a good player probably helps too,

1011
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: and having known you for a long time helps because

1012
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: he knows your game. And obviously any keddy when you

1013
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: carry for somebody for a long time, you're going to

1014
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: know their game. But I imagine that it's really nice having

1015
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: somebody that you can talk to about anything you know

1016
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: from like pert because it's like you know, if you

1017
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 1: if it's just as strictly a work relationship, then it's

1018
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 1: hard to get your mind off things when a rounds

1019
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: going one way.

1020
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,280
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and he's I mean we come up with everything

1021
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 2: to talk about. I mean very not often when we

1022
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 2: talk about golf out there unless we have to be

1023
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 2: so just nice, you know, he's.

1024
00:46:58,480 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 3: He's super close.

1025
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 2: To my wife. We have a lot, you know, all

1026
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 2: of our friends are kind of the same, so we

1027
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 2: we really enjoy chit chatting about that.

1028
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's it's nice because.

1029
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 2: He he knows how I'm feeling, like I don't have

1030
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 2: We don't have to talk about it. He can kind

1031
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 2: of tell about how I'm feeling and which way we're

1032
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 2: going to go and.

1033
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 3: Under the gun like he can.

1034
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 2: It kind of lets me go a little bit more

1035
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 2: and doesn't hold the reins as much, which is always

1036
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 2: nice and just a nice It's great to have your

1037
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,720
Speaker 2: friend on the bag when you know, sometimes you shoot

1038
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 2: eighty and you can laugh about it.

1039
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 3: And other times when you're trying to win the golf tournament, is.

1040
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 2: Really nice to look next to you and know the

1041
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 2: guys have as much fun as you are, and you

1042
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 2: know you kind of in this together and just yeah,

1043
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 2: I don't think I could do it with a business relationship.

1044
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 2: I would always need a friend out here because you

1045
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 2: spend so much time with him.

1046
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 3: You spend you know.

1047
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 2: Six eight hours a day, four or five days a week,

1048
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 2: and that's more than I spend with my wife when

1049
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 2: I'm on the road.

1050
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 3: So you need a guy. You get along with the guy.

1051
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 3: You're gonna have fun with the guy. You can keep

1052
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 3: it light and fresh.

1053
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 2: I know a lot of time, it's easy for it

1054
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 2: to get stale, and that's why you see a lot

1055
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 2: of guys break up.

1056
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 3: After a year or two or three years. It's just like, man,

1057
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 3: I just need something new.

1058
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 2: Because we've talked about everything we could, and we FaceTime

1059
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 2: each other almost every day during this quarantine of what

1060
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 2: he's doing, what how his family's doing, with this kid's doing.

1061
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 3: So like yesterday he played left handed.

1062
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 2: H tried to I set a line at one hundred

1063
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 2: and ten and he played left handed shot one o six.

1064
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 3: So he snipped me there.

1065
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 2: And we always make little bets back and forth on

1066
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 2: everything we do, so it's it's a lot of fun.

1067
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: Do you as a player, I always wonder do you

1068
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 1: ever like when you're standing over a pot or a shot,

1069
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: do you ever think like, uh, if I do this

1070
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: he's gonna make a lot more money than if I

1071
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: do this has that like I always.

1072
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 2: Well, we talk about it because yeah, I don't know

1073
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 2: if your business mode've probably been talking about it, but

1074
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 2: we talked about all the time I give him. I

1075
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 2: tell him he gets paid way too much. I go, dude,

1076
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 2: you have the easiest job in the world. Do you

1077
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 2: get to hang out with your best friend and I'm

1078
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 2: a cool guy. You get paid a ton of money

1079
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 2: because we're playing well. And I go and I hardly

1080
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 2: ever practice, like I don't not going to the range

1081
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 2: after the round, but you know, keep him away. He

1082
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 2: gets to play golf three or three times a week

1083
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 2: because I don't make him do anything else. So he's

1084
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 2: got to put up with I don't know if my smart,

1085
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 2: but he's got to put up.

1086
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 3: With me on the golf course. And yeah, we talked

1087
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 3: all the time, like, hey, what's this pow work. He's like,

1088
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 3: it's probably worth like fifty grand. I'm like, I mean

1089
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 3: you get like or of it like this this is disgusting.

1090
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 3: This is like this is paying for your house for

1091
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 3: like five months. And this goes in and he laughs

1092
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 3: and we have.

1093
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 2: A good time about it, and like you know, it's

1094
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:35,919
Speaker 2: easier when things are going well.

1095
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,919
Speaker 3: But uh, the first year's on the web, the first

1096
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 3: year on the webb, he lost.

1097
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: Money there, Like I just couldn't even imagine.

1098
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 3: It's yeah, So, I mean that was weird. We were

1099
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 3: splitting room.

1100
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 2: We just we split everything that year did as cheap

1101
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 2: as possible. I think I barely broke even on the web,

1102
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 2: so we definitely lost some money. And then the second

1103
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 2: year when he got my card, I think he only

1104
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 2: made like twenty gre so like that's not going to

1105
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 2: pay the bills.

1106
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 3: And then you know, even rookie year on tour was

1107
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 3: pretty slim. Uh. And since at that point we've we've

1108
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 3: done pretty well.

1109
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 2: But he put in some real lean years, uh for

1110
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 2: you know, for it to be good times now.

1111
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 3: But he was willing to stick it out.

1112
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 2: I think he always believed in me more than I

1113
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 2: probably believed myself.

1114
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 3: When I was younger.

1115
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 2: And now that we're kind of, you know, on the

1116
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 2: same page. But he put in his time, that's for sure.

1117
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 3: He didn't just.

1118
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 2: Pop up when when things are going well, which is

1119
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,879
Speaker 2: exactly what he told to me, you know, six years ago.

1120
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: Is it Are there any terms that you like are

1121
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: rounds that shots that you always look back and think about.

1122
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 3: Gino does it all the time. I So the more

1123
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 3: I've played, the better I've got in.

1124
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 2: My career, the less I've done that. I mean, I

1125
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 2: remember shots like in high school and junior.

1126
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 3: Golf I hit way more than I do, Like, oh man,

1127
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 3: that was.

1128
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 2: A sweet golf shot. I hit under the pressure out here,

1129
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 2: like that's saying it my first time. Really, I wasn't

1130
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 2: incantation of John Deere. But it was my second year.

1131
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 2: Michael Kim was winning by seven or eight or something,

1132
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 2: so it wasn't even in the golf tournament, but it was,

1133
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 2: you know, second place was a huge deal. And hitting

1134
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 2: a left bunk on eighteen on the at John Deere

1135
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 2: and I'm not.

1136
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 3: A great family bunker player, and I had the worst lie.

1137
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 2: It was blowing my feet and I had to hit

1138
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 2: a big hook and I was like, you know, we

1139
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 2: just laid up and make five, you know, like just

1140
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,760
Speaker 2: trying to protect like a fifth or sixth or something.

1141
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 2: And he's like, man, I'm like.

1142
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 3: Let's let's go for like, let's let's pull this thing off.

1143
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 2: I hit probably the best shot, I mean, probably the

1144
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:40,760
Speaker 2: best shot I've ever hit.

1145
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 3: Hit this big sweeping hook that went you know, I

1146
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 3: thought I actually was flying.

1147
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 2: It came up like forty feet short, but under the

1148
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 2: gun it was unbelievable golf shot, and it was one

1149
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 2: of those we kind of high fived each others, like

1150
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 2: did that just actually happen? And then you know, he

1151
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 2: had the two puttets still, which fairly snuck that one in.

1152
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 2: But I remember some stuff from high school that was like, man,

1153
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 2: I can't believe I've never hit.

1154
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 3: That shot now that I like pulled off through the trees.

1155
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 2: And you know, it's kind of fun stuff like that

1156
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 2: when it obviously didn't nearly.

1157
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 3: Matter as much.

1158
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 2: But Gino's really good at recalling every shots if it

1159
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 2: scared him to death, or if he thought I was

1160
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 2: being an idiot and still let me do it, or

1161
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 2: or times that you.

1162
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 3: Know, you'd get me some bad numbers as well, which

1163
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 3: I remember those. Yeah.

1164
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: I mean, as as a caddy, probably, I mean it's harder,

1165
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: I think, watching golf than playing golf, Like if you're

1166
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,720
Speaker 1: if you're caddying for somebody or you're watching a friend,

1167
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,760
Speaker 1: it's just it's like nerve wracking to watch.

1168
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 2: I caddied for Gino two three years ago now in

1169
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 2: the US mid Am qualifire. I knew he was like

1170
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 2: a toos for sure. If he played well, he would

1171
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 2: be right there. You know, it's a small section, Idaho.

1172
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 2: There's how many guys there, and he's one of the

1173
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 2: better players and I was.

1174
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 3: Not. But that was a first time I've caddied.

1175
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 2: For you know, buddies in the past and kind of

1176
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 2: goofed off and stuff, and that was like, man, I

1177
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 2: really wanted qualify for this, and he.

1178
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 3: Buried his first three holes and.

1179
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 2: I was just out like having a grand old time,

1180
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 2: Like like I wasn't even cadding. I was just carrying

1181
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 2: the club, setting him down and letting him do whatever.

1182
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 3: And all of a sudden, like.

1183
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 2: Like I could tell like he got nervous, and then

1184
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 2: I got nervous, and then he like made a terrible

1185
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 2: three point bogume Like what are you doing? Like this

1186
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 2: is like you could just see I couldn't handle it,

1187
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 2: and he he was choking hard down the scratch and

1188
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 2: there's nothing you can do to stop it. Like you

1189
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 2: try to give him the proper club, the proper line,

1190
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 2: You try to talk him through it, and then you

1191
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 2: can just see him like scared hit the ball and

1192
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, is this what I look like?

1193
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 3: He's like yeah, and I'm like, oh crap.

1194
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 2: So being on that side of it is good at

1195
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 2: times as well.

1196
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 3: But thankfully he got it out a tough par in

1197
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 3: the last and qualified by one for that.

1198
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 2: But I kind of what my wife goes through, especially

1199
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 2: when we were struggling a little bit and actually needed

1200
00:53:58,280 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 2: the money, and like.

1201
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 3: She quit her job to travel with me.

1202
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 2: On tour, and like the pressure she's feeling us prayer,

1203
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,839
Speaker 2: but the nerves, Like she all she does is love

1204
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 2: me and support me, and she has to watch this

1205
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 2: like go down. So that's gotta be super hard. And

1206
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 2: I'm glad that I'm playing and not watching, because that'd

1207
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 2: be like I can't imagine if my son or you know,

1208
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 2: I don't have kids yet, but if my kids grow

1209
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 2: up to be like a great athlete or something like,

1210
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 2: watching them has gotta be the worst thing in the world.

1211
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I always say so. I I used to play

1212
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: a lot of midamn stuff, and I'm like, I'm a

1213
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: snorkeler and you guys are nuclear subs. So like if

1214
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 1: I get off, if I get off to a hot start,

1215
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 1: my my my snorkel tubees going under the water and

1216
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 1: water is just gonna rush in eventually, and I'm coming

1217
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 1: up prayer and it's like you guys just go and

1218
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: then you just keep going down further and further. It's

1219
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: like you're you guys get uncomfortable when you're around par

1220
00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: and it's like the ninth.

1221
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 3: Hole, right, because we gotta make berries. We gotta go.

1222
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if we if we're like two under, we're like, uh,

1223
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 1: I other protect this two.

1224
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 3: Under three right exactly.

1225
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:15,399
Speaker 2: That's there is a there's a line for everybody, whatever

1226
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 2: it is. I mean, like you feel you feel un

1227
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 2: comfortable at some point, and uh, it's not like you

1228
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 2: automatically like Tiger's the only one. He's like, guess broke

1229
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 2: through it. But I guarantee you he's still nervous and

1230
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 2: fell uncomfortable at times, but you know he's he's.

1231
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 3: Battled through it.

1232
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 2: Where that was a thing for me is like once

1233
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 2: I realized that the guy's around me in contention, I

1234
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,879
Speaker 2: don't know if it's Rory or rom or whoever. Dude,

1235
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 2: they're nervous too, and they're like they're playing for I'm

1236
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 2: playing for money, and you're going to be great to

1237
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 2: win a couple of times and playing for kind of

1238
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 2: career they're playing for like a legacy type thing of

1239
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 2: winning all these tournaments and winning majors and building that

1240
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 2: like Hall of Fame career type thing.

1241
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 3: They're just as nervous as.

1242
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,959
Speaker 2: As I am, and they care about it just as much,

1243
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:58,919
Speaker 2: and they're I wouldn't say worried about it, but they're

1244
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,720
Speaker 2: you know, they get nervous over the same gulf outside,

1245
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:04,959
Speaker 2: so you know, kind of they put on their pants

1246
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 2: the same way we do type of thing. But that

1247
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:08,800
Speaker 2: was a good lesson for me as well. It's like, damn,

1248
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 2: like they're worried about the t shirts same as everybody

1249
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 2: else is. So yeah, it should help the lesser players

1250
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 2: or the guys not as well known, like suck it

1251
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 2: up and get it done.

1252
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 1: How much did that you talked about that deer finish

1253
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: where you you it was like one of your first

1254
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 1: top ten, top five finishes. How much did that help

1255
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 1: you the next time you were in that area, like,

1256
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 1: because then you went like last timmer you went on,

1257
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 1: you had just kind of a string of them where

1258
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: you you know, for five weeks you were six weeks

1259
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 1: you were just in contention every single week.

1260
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:44,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, it certainly helps.

1261
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 2: You started, you start expecting to see your name around there,

1262
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:50,760
Speaker 2: and you want to see your name there.

1263
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 1: So you.

1264
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a big believer that you kind of

1265
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 2: play to whatever you think you're going to play too.

1266
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 2: If you're trying to make cuts, you're gonna be around

1267
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 2: the cut line if you're you know, the best players

1268
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,359
Speaker 2: always think they should be in the top ten, so

1269
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 2: that's what they do. Like if you I thoroughly believe

1270
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 2: that I, if I play solid, there's no reason I

1271
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 2: should be, you know, consistently around that top ten point.

1272
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:14,439
Speaker 2: If I played hout well, then I'm gonna be around

1273
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 2: the lead. So when you start believing those things and

1274
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 2: you actually believe them and you're you know, every all

1275
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,439
Speaker 2: the metrics say that you should be doing that, then

1276
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 2: there's no reason not to.

1277
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 3: So once you.

1278
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 2: Instead of everybody has goals to go to their ceiling everybody,

1279
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 2: but there's a floor that everybody has as well, and

1280
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 2: most people are gonna end up at the floor.

1281
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 3: Not many.

1282
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 2: Oh everybody wants to win this and do that or

1283
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 2: get the tour championship. But if you get if you're

1284
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 2: like man, I would be really bummed. If I didn't

1285
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 2: finish top fifty on this year's Best.

1286
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 3: Cup, that's probably where you're gonna end up closer to

1287
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 3: that number. So I think that wherever your floor is,

1288
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 3: if you're okay with.

1289
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 2: Top twenty five, you're probably gonna finish top twenty five

1290
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 2: if your floor is top ten, so you're probably going

1291
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 2: to find a way to do that as well.

1292
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 3: So it start of, you know, when seeing your name

1293
00:57:58,080 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 3: up there, you start.

1294
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 2: Feel more comforble, get more comfableround like cameras.

1295
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 3: Honestly as well, when you start making more money, like

1296
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 3: you don't worried about making money as much. It's a

1297
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 3: huge deal when you're like, all of a sudden, maybe

1298
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 3: like get rive this year. For me, I was in

1299
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 3: the fairway on eighteen.

1300
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 2: I thought I was one back at the time I

1301
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 2: need to make Bertie had a great drive and I

1302
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 2: went after the back left pan at riv because I

1303
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 2: thought I needed to make a three. I didn't realize

1304
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 2: Scott had thirty seventeen. I don't think he had yet actually,

1305
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 2: and I was like, man like, this is my chance,

1306
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, like I lived out like

1307
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 2: a five footer for par which would have kept.

1308
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 3: Me T two, but I missed it. I dropped down

1309
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 3: in T.

1310
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 1: Five.

1311
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 2: And in the past I've been like, oh my god,

1312
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 2: like I maybe would have hit a nine rod and

1313
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 2: thirty feet out to the right and two putted to

1314
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 2: save you know whatever it was two or three hundred

1315
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 2: thousand dollars. But for me, it was more important to

1316
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 2: go after the w and you know, stand up to

1317
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 2: it and hit the golf shot that was required at

1318
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 2: the time. So I felt better about it than I

1319
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 2: ever have at that point. And you know, those guys

1320
00:58:58,880 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 2: who have all.

1321
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 3: The money in the world will never have a money problem.

1322
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 2: Like they're so easy to free wheel it and go

1323
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 2: after some golf shots down the stretch that a lot

1324
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 2: of guys are maybe just protecting from par and just

1325
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 2: kind of hanging onto that two five thing.

1326
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 3: So that matters a lot as well.

1327
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 1: It's interesting to think about from like the mentality standpoint,

1328
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 1: because once once you play on tour long enough and

1329
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: have enough success, the money aspect becomes not there's not

1330
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: as much pressure associated to the money as there is

1331
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: to the finish right, to the just the.

1332
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 2: Exactly right exactly that no, you're totally right. It's and

1333
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 2: for me the first time in my career where I

1334
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 2: mean I finished second a couple of times, but I

1335
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 2: really had a chance to win. Like I had a

1336
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 2: putch tight lead on seventeen. I hit a good you know,

1337
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 2: the part five whatever, so I had a chance to

1338
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 2: tie lead on seventeen.

1339
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 3: I'd never felt that before and that was a big moment.

1340
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 2: But I felt okay there, like I felt like, oh

1341
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 2: this is you know, I can do this eighteen stripe

1342
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 2: to drive and was willing to go after it. And

1343
00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 2: because I was okay if I screwed up and made

1344
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 2: like I was okay with it. And that's a hard

1345
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 2: place to get. You know, I don't have massive endorsements

1346
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 2: off off off the course, I.

1347
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 3: Don't have.

1348
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 2: I'm not pulling in those type of figures. And you know,

1349
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 2: I've been a journeyman forever.

1350
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 1: You're thirty two, that's not a journeyman.

1351
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 2: Well compared to what you see now, you have like

1352
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 2: more Kawa, and you have Wolf and you have even

1353
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 2: like Ricky and JT and these like it's weird. I

1354
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 2: don't know, like it's mind bolving to me. You know,

1355
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 2: they just come out at twenty two, twenty three, twenty four.

1356
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 2: They're signing million dollar deals in they're winning majors in there,

1357
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 2: cruising it and like that's great.

1358
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 3: You know, they are the top ten in the world.

1359
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 1: But I think I feel like it's it's there's been

1360
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 1: like this recent phenomenon that's like shifted the like you

1361
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 1: think about like Kevin Kissner. Kevin Kisser didn't get on

1362
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 1: tour until he was like twenty seven twenty eight, and

1363
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 1: he was like a great player in college. But I

1364
01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:00,040
Speaker 1: think there's also something about if you're one of the

1365
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 1: guys that does everything pretty well, but you're not like

1366
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: just like really long or have a really dominant skill,

1367
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 1: that it's going to take longer to get there because absolutely,

1368
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 1: you know, every skill's got to get a little bit better, right.

1369
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know you're you're totally right, like unless you're

1370
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 2: you know, Mark how is like probably the best ball

1371
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 2: striker on tour.

1372
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 3: If not, you know, he's for sure top five, and.

1373
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 2: The way he just appears all the time, so you

1374
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 2: don't have to putt great where Wolf is a bomber

1375
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 2: type of thing, or you have these other guys where

1376
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 2: they have these unbelievable skills or they hit it super

1377
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 2: far so they can make up for a lack of

1378
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 2: this somewhere along the way where I think kiss guy's

1379
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 2: pretty similar. He's a way better partter than I am.

1380
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 2: But he's pretty steady, not overly long, it's it pretty

1381
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 2: solid all the time. When he puts well, he's he's competing,

1382
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 2: and he can win those big events. You know, he

1383
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 2: can compete the players and and win WGCs and you'll

1384
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 2: see him you know, he's been around the majors as well.

1385
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 2: So yeah, he's certainly like he's He's a guy that

1386
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 2: I think he's only maybe true, it's years older than me,

1387
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 2: so I can see a lot of myself and him,

1388
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 2: where if I shore up the putting and be a

1389
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 2: lot like him, like you said.

1390
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 3: So for I had to improve a little bit on everything.

1391
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:12,919
Speaker 2: Over the course of five six years ago on tour,

1392
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 2: where a lot of these guys already have two or

1393
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 2: three skills that are good enough to get out there,

1394
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:19,439
Speaker 2: and they can kind of mass their weaknesses a little

1395
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 2: bit because they're so dominant one area, which is driving

1396
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 2: the ball mostly now the way you can drive a

1397
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 2: golf ball.

1398
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 3: And overpowered golf course, if you hit it far and straight,

1399
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 3: you can get away with a lot of stuff.

1400
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like Champ is so long that he's just

1401
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 1: going to run into win every year.

1402
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, he can't if he drives a ball consistently. He does,

1403
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden he pits a couple

1404
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 2: irons close and he huts it decent. He can't not

1405
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 2: win once.

1406
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 3: Through twice a year. Yeah, he just says, too big

1407
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 3: of an advantage, so.

1408
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 1: The only way to get through. It's crazy. I mean

1409
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 1: it is, so I'm really used to it. But sure,

1410
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 1: it's just like the fact that you can't touch anything.

1411
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 1: It's just crazy to me.

1412
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 3: It is.

1413
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like for me, luckily, I can just.

1414
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 3: Sit at home and kind of do nothing. We have

1415
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 3: everything we need here.

1416
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 2: But my wife's going a little stirt crazy, so she's

1417
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 2: been having a couple extra SIPs of wine at night.

1418
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 2: That's for sure, to to get away.

1419
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 3: From it all. Sometimes we start a little early in

1420
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 3: the afternoon, but it's when it's eighty degrees outside you

1421
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 3: want to see on your patios. Not too bad.

1422
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's they I don't know. It's gonna be crazy

1423
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 1: to see when when you guys come back.

1424
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be a while too.

1425
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 2: I think sounds like it anyways, so hopefully it's sooner

1426
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 2: rather than later.

1427
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 1: They should. Honestly, they should be sending like five camera

1428
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 1: men and you guys should be doing like matches in Scottsdale.

1429
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 2: And so we've talked about that and we almost had

1430
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 2: one kind of going. They put us in lockdown, but

1431
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 2: courses still open. We talked about doing a simulator match

1432
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 2: Scott Stowe guys, get five scotts Stoe guys against five

1433
01:03:57,560 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 2: guys in Jupiter and have Scott still against.

1434
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 3: Jupiter and then you can do maybe the winner of

1435
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 3: that would.

1436
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 2: Play like the Vegas team and then maybe a team

1437
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 2: in Dallas or something like that where you play indoors

1438
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 2: simulator but you just put a camera up and you

1439
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 2: just crap talk each other back and forth on a simulator.

1440
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 3: You could there's no reason you couldn't.

1441
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 2: Maxim Ike couldn't go and have a match right now

1442
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 2: at Mason Country Club or wherever with have a cameraman

1443
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 2: follows around and Mike us up and have a blast.

1444
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 1: I know, but it's I think the tour they could,

1445
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 1: you know, that's what they should be thinking about because

1446
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 1: like no other sport and it's like golf, like you

1447
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,959
Speaker 1: could do all these cool little things that.

1448
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 2: Are totally especially if you walk, you just there's no

1449
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 2: the pins or whatever. You put a stiro froam thing

1450
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 2: in the cup so you don't have to touch the pins.

1451
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 2: You don't have to touch A break six feet apart

1452
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 2: is so easy on a golf course.

1453
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm surprised something hasn't come up.

1454
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 2: I know there's been a couple of years floaded, but

1455
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 2: nothing is definitely stuck, that's for sure.

1456
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 1: I think like one of the things I think about

1457
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 1: is like, if it worked really well, people would want

1458
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 1: more of it, and it would take away from seventy

1459
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 1: two hole one hundred and forty four player stroke play,

1460
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 1: which is like the bread and butter, and they wouldn't

1461
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 1: want to show a format of the game that was

1462
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 1: was better when the main thing is maximize playing opportunities.

1463
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 3: Right, Sure, And I get that too.

1464
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 2: And I know Tiger and Field kind of tried the

1465
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 2: match thing and that was a big flop.

1466
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 3: They weren't as entertaining as it could be, the golf

1467
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 3: was crappy, The whole thing didn't work overy well.

1468
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 1: So I imagine that I don't know if that was

1469
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 1: a flop because I went to all my buddies are

1470
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 1: not golfers like that, are just like my college drinking buddies. Sure,

1471
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 1: they like I went out after that because I had

1472
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 1: to cover it, and I went out and met my

1473
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 1: buddies and all of them were like, what what happened

1474
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 1: to the match? Who won? You know? And they they

1475
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 1: could the only thing they care about is like the masters.

1476
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 3: Right, Sure, but they were asking about the match they.

1477
01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 1: Were nuts about. They wanted to know so much about.

1478
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 1: They never ask about anything. They don't ask about the players,

1479
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 1: they don't ask about you know. They might ask about

1480
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 1: the US Open, but nothing but the match they asked about.

1481
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 1: I think it's because it's so easy to understand.

1482
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 2: Well, it is, certainly that I think. I guess we

1483
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 2: were expecting a lot more back and forth, you know,

1484
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 2: kind of shit talking, a little bit more side bets

1485
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 2: that were it just seemed a little forced. A Tiger's

1486
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 2: not the best in that environment either. Probably Phils can

1487
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 2: be very good at it, with the way that he

1488
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 2: can give the needle and the way that he can chat.

1489
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 3: But man, if you'd put.

1490
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 2: I mean, if you get some normal guys in there,

1491
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 2: I mean, you can, like I feel like Ricky and

1492
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 2: JT would be fun at it.

1493
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 3: Rory would be good at that type of thing.

1494
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 2: A little more personality to put some drinks in Stara

1495
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 2: from cup and you're.

1496
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 3: Gonna get a lot of fun out a lot of golfers.

1497
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 2: I mean you put kids and you know selfishly, you

1498
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 2: put me and kids against like Homa and you know

1499
01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 2: maybe JT.

1500
01:06:58,080 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 3: Those kinds are buddies.

1501
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 2: Like then you go put us like in an alternate

1502
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 2: shot match, like it would be an absolute blast.

1503
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 1: Like you could be ahead too, and you guys start

1504
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 1: talking about like what the other person's doing. You wouldn't

1505
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 1: really need announcers as much if it was alternate shot totally.

1506
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 3: I be able, like because you can just skip ahead.

1507
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 3: You don't even really watch your partner, you just keep

1508
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 3: rotating ahead. You can play in like two hours. You

1509
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 3: would have an absolute blast. And uh, I mean we

1510
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 3: do that stuff here anyways with somebody. So we played

1511
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 3: a game called Auto two down Shotguns.

1512
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 2: So if you got two down, you had a shotgun

1513
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:37,479
Speaker 2: a beer and that was That was a pretty fun game.

1514
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 2: So we're trying to set set another one of those

1515
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:42,480
Speaker 2: matches up this weekend.

1516
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 3: I think.

1517
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 1: That's one. You know, some people I used to carry

1518
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 1: for this guy. He would he was like he was

1519
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 1: just he was unbelievable because once you got like six

1520
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 1: beers in he was he went from like a six

1521
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:00,160
Speaker 1: to like a plus two.

1522
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 3: That's awesome, you.

1523
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 1: Have two beers and then like the course would come

1524
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 1: around the fourth hole, would loop back around the men's

1525
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 1: locker room and grab two bar and then we get

1526
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 1: to the turn and then he was like a world

1527
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 1: beer you know, like he won the club championship as

1528
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:18,680
Speaker 1: a six handicap and it's amazing.

1529
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 2: If you it's all about getting your levels right. Some

1530
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 2: people only need a couple. Some people need a lot,

1531
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:26,760
Speaker 2: and they got a start earlier. But then if you

1532
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 2: cross over the line, then you're absolutely told. I think

1533
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 2: it's really ugly fast. So everybody has their level. Some

1534
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 2: people at zero, some people at six, some people it's ten.

1535
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 2: Some people it's only a couple. But everyone has their line.

1536
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 3: Where they play better golf from.

1537
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 1: And did you qualify for something after drinking at Sciota?

1538
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 3: Yeah? It was.

1539
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:53,720
Speaker 2: So it was this year's or last year for Pebble Beach.

1540
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 2: I was doing just fine. I bog you to my

1541
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:01,600
Speaker 2: last like four it to get which I thought was

1542
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 2: gonna bump me out. I knew if I parted in

1543
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 2: like I was, I would have it.

1544
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 3: Looked at it.

1545
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:08,640
Speaker 2: We're completely choked because I wanted to play in the

1546
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 2: US Open the Pebbles so bad, like that was a

1547
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 2: huge deal for me.

1548
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 3: And uh choked.

1549
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 2: So then we're at the we're at say I own

1550
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 2: the homest course of allence. We had to drive back

1551
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 2: and then I was one of the earlier tea times.

1552
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:21,640
Speaker 2: We had like an hour to wait, and I was

1553
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 2: like positive.

1554
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 1: That we.

1555
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 2: I got bumped out already. But then they're like, hey,

1556
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,720
Speaker 2: there's a playoff. Probably they'll be a massive playoff for

1557
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 2: like the last for an alternate spot. And I'm like, okay, whatever,

1558
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:35,720
Speaker 2: Well I don't really care. And some guys like, no,

1559
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 2: you need like you should, you should play in it. Okay, Well,

1560
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:39,640
Speaker 2: so Gina and I we have an hour away, so

1561
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 2: we go grab a couple of beers and then we

1562
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 2: drank them, and then we grabbed a couple more, and

1563
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:47,720
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, they all right, just let it

1564
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 2: me know. We have like a twelve We had eleven

1565
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:54,720
Speaker 2: for one for the first alternate playoff, and somebody's like, dude,

1566
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:56,559
Speaker 2: you know the first this is the first alternate site

1567
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 2: and they always hold a couple of spots, like you

1568
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 2: if you win the swet UF, you're guaranteed to get.

1569
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:03,840
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh okay, I had in Baldon hour.

1570
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 2: So I was drinking beer on the range like kind

1571
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 2: of whacking balls and guys like one of the other players.

1572
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 3: Was like, dude, you can't be doing that, and I was.

1573
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 2: Like, what do you mean? Like I was like, this

1574
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 2: has been some rules, like I didn't. I was kind

1575
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 2: of playing dumb whatever and so usg G he didn't care,

1576
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 2: So anywo, I make I a thirty footer on the

1577
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 2: first hole to make birdie and to have there's only

1578
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:27,680
Speaker 2: one of the guy made Bertie, so then went to

1579
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 2: the next hole. Uh and I made par and he

1580
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 2: made bogie and I was the first videos opening got

1581
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 2: in like two weeks.

1582
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 3: Later or a week later, I guess. So it's pretty awesome.

1583
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:43,639
Speaker 1: It's funny. We just did this vignette on on Sandy

1584
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 1: Lyle on my other pod and he had the same

1585
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:50,559
Speaker 1: thing happened where he finished this event in like the eighties,

1586
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 1: really early on the European tour, and he shot a

1587
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 1: good score and he thought he was gonna be in

1588
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 1: the top ten, so he's having a glass of line.

1589
01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 1: He ended up having like four glass of line. The

1590
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 1: weather got bad and and Seve like completely blew it

1591
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 1: down the stretch. He ended up in a playoff against

1592
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 1: Sev and on the first Holy canned like a thirty

1593
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 1: five foot after four glass of wine to win.

1594
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:12,799
Speaker 3: He's like, it's awesome.

1595
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's I mean, obviously that doesn't have

1596
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:17,639
Speaker 2: very often because class, but there's beer in the locker

1597
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 2: room forest on Sundays, so like it's easy to go

1598
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 2: in there and grab a beer real.

1599
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 3: Quick and and have a couple, so I wouldn't.

1600
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 2: I'm sure it's happened four times than people would ever

1601
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:30,600
Speaker 2: imagine that that somebody who posted early would have a

1602
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 2: couple of pops before they went back out.

1603
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's like that. It's almost like Sunday

1604
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 1: is like your Friday forever.

1605
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Like it's like, you're exactly right.

1606
01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:41,639
Speaker 1: I'm done with the work week. I could I can

1607
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 1: hang out for a while. It's like Friday afternoon exactly.

1608
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:47,760
Speaker 2: Most of us have Mondays off travel day for us,

1609
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 2: So by the time we're Tuesday roll around, we're back

1610
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 2: and rate a.

1611
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 3: Roll, So Sundays of our favorite day for everybody on tour.

1612
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:58,639
Speaker 1: Most people, Hey, so tell me about your limited practice theory.

1613
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 1: I'm interested that.

1614
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 3: Well, it's probably a little over one. I do practice.

1615
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 2: I grew up at a place with a bad driving

1616
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 2: range and a very like not even a chipping area

1617
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:15,600
Speaker 2: type thing. So I did all my practice on the

1618
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:18,160
Speaker 2: golf course. I was lucky that no one was out

1619
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:20,840
Speaker 2: there in the evenings. I could just cruise down and

1620
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 2: so I got used to practicing on the golf course. Well,

1621
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:26,360
Speaker 2: so I'm not a range rat. I never really had

1622
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 2: a coach until, you know, a real serious on until

1623
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:30,560
Speaker 2: I got on a web chair where I worked with

1624
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 2: them all the time and we just My swing doesn't

1625
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 2: change much.

1626
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 3: I can always hit it.

1627
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 2: As soon as I set up correctly, my swing comes

1628
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 2: back in five or ten balls and then I'm good

1629
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 2: to go.

1630
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:42,719
Speaker 3: So and I've always been a pretty good ball striker,

1631
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 3: and I.

1632
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 2: Can so and I hate practicing putting, man, and that's

1633
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 2: probably the only thing I need to practice. But I

1634
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 2: just can't stand like hitting putts over and over again.

1635
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 2: That just drives me nuts. So I had not a

1636
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 2: range rat. Like sometimes there's been times on Thursday, I'll

1637
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 2: ask Gino where the rain, just like I haven't been

1638
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 2: to the rain yet until Thursday warming up. So I'm

1639
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 2: trying to get better at it, just like consistently being

1640
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:08,479
Speaker 2: a little bit more.

1641
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:10,919
Speaker 3: Consistent at practicing.

1642
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 2: But yeah, there's times I won't have seen the I'll

1643
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 2: just show up on Tuesday, play nine, play my Wednesday

1644
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 2: pro am, and be off, so I don't spend any

1645
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 2: time after the round hitting balls. I'm tired normally after

1646
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 2: I play eighteen holds, so I just kind of go

1647
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:29,519
Speaker 2: back home. But I'll play a lot when I'm home.

1648
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 2: I love to play with the buddies and hanging out.

1649
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 2: But when I do see coach, my coach, Roberts Shelle.

1650
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 2: He's head of instruction here at TPS scott Still and

1651
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 2: he's incredible.

1652
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 3: He's fun.

1653
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:41,560
Speaker 2: He understands me like he's He played on tour in

1654
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 2: early two thousands European Tour, a couple of US opens.

1655
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:48,679
Speaker 2: He was a crazy grinder, like all he did is practice,

1656
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 2: like all day every day. Everything was dedicated to golf.

1657
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 2: And he understands with me like we're at the players.

1658
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 2: This year he flew out for a couple of days

1659
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:55,760
Speaker 2: of like hey, what are.

1660
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:56,719
Speaker 3: You gonna do Wednesday?

1661
01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 2: And I Mike, maybe play nine, and he's like feeling

1662
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 2: and just just go goof op for night holes.

1663
01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 3: And be done.

1664
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 2: Like you're gonna get your games in a good spot.

1665
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:08,080
Speaker 2: The best thing you can do is go home and

1666
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 2: relax and you know, kind of get my mind right.

1667
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:13,680
Speaker 2: So for me, I do better when I'm refreshed, when

1668
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:17,240
Speaker 2: I'm not wasting time with the golf course hitting a

1669
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:18,720
Speaker 2: bunch of balls and practicing a ton.

1670
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 3: And I do practice plenty, and I a lot.

1671
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 2: When it's with Rob it's structured and we go we

1672
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:27,799
Speaker 2: practice for a couple hours, But I get.

1673
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:29,560
Speaker 3: Burned out after a couple hours practicing. I can't. I

1674
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 3: can't think about golf that long and be, you know,

1675
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 3: hundred percent into it.

1676
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:37,639
Speaker 1: I guess there's the Deval had the theory that if

1677
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 1: he's hitting it good, he doesn't want to go mess

1678
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 1: anything up, and if he's hitting it bad, he doesn't

1679
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:47,599
Speaker 1: want to go reinforce anything bad. So like why spend

1680
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:49,679
Speaker 1: a ton of time? I mean, I think I'm kind

1681
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 1: of the same way. It's like, if I go to

1682
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:53,479
Speaker 1: the range, I'm more likely to just screw myself up.

1683
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 1: If I'm playing well.

1684
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:56,880
Speaker 3: If I'm playing well, it's fine.

1685
01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 2: If I have like, Okay, I gotta go hit thirty

1686
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 2: balls with correct alignment and you know, fill with club

1687
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 2: faces and get that, then I'll can go through that

1688
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:07,679
Speaker 2: in a bag of balls real quick.

1689
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 3: And be just fine. Like the same thing.

1690
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 2: If I'm hitting it well, I definitely am not going

1691
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 2: to the range, you know. I like chipping. I like

1692
01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 2: sometime with bunker playing goofing off there, and I've improved

1693
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 2: out a ton the last couple of years. But everything

1694
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 2: I have to do has to be competitive. I bet gino.

1695
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 2: You know, hey, on any type of web shot or

1696
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 2: chipping or anything, it's like, hey, you have five balls,

1697
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:29,599
Speaker 2: can even.

1698
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:32,679
Speaker 3: Do this with it? I have to say really competitive

1699
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 3: when I practice. Otherwise it just gets so bland. So whatever.

1700
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 2: And I like practice with buddies. If we're gonna go

1701
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:42,760
Speaker 2: out and have a chipping contest, whether that's great. But

1702
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 2: I play way more than I practice.

1703
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 1: I think you're right. I always have said that setting

1704
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:50,679
Speaker 1: up to the ball is the hardest thing in golf.

1705
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:52,799
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

1706
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 2: If you can set up correctly with the proper alignment

1707
01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 2: for whatever you're trying to.

1708
01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 3: Do, It's different for everybody. But whatever you.

1709
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 2: Play beast at, if you can do that consistently, then

1710
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 2: your swing, your swing doesn't really change.

1711
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 3: Your alignment changes in your maybe your poster changes.

1712
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:10,599
Speaker 2: A little bit and that stuff, and then you're then

1713
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 2: your swing changes because your setups off, not because of

1714
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 2: your swing is changing.

1715
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:16,760
Speaker 3: So I think that's the biggest thing for most everybody.

1716
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 1: All right, last question, we'll get you out of here,

1717
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 1: so you know quick one. When do you think if

1718
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:25,679
Speaker 1: you were going to guess your coming that the tour

1719
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 1: is coming back, and what would you like to see

1720
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 1: him do with given the circumstances, do you just like,

1721
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 1: do you wipe the year clean? Do you do you

1722
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:39,240
Speaker 1: do like a truncated thing where it you're into the

1723
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:42,640
Speaker 1: playoffs right away, or do you go deep into the

1724
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:46,439
Speaker 1: year you know, and you have a shorter season next year.

1725
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 4: This is a very tough question they I think, I

1726
01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:57,759
Speaker 4: think what they should do if we can start on time,

1727
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 4: which I think is like mid May right now, I

1728
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 4: think we're on supposed to be a colonial I highly

1729
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 4: doubt that's gonna happen, you know, based on everything else

1730
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 4: has already been canceled months past that, you know, I

1731
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 4: think things are getting canceled in June and.

1732
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 3: July already, so maybe just roll the year over.

1733
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 2: I know there's rumors of them, even like the playoffs,

1734
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 2: so like I've heard the rumors of the Tour Championship

1735
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 2: could be one hundred and forty four players, just a

1736
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 2: full field that let everybody play. If this, if this

1737
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:34,679
Speaker 2: delay happens, for it, you can't throw out the previous result.

1738
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 2: You can't throw out the previous twenty seven events. I

1739
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 2: think you just roll over the tournament year and make

1740
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 2: it like a year and a half long deal and

1741
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:44,799
Speaker 2: play it that way. I think that that's the fairest

1742
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 2: way because people who have played great get to continue.

1743
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 3: To play great. People that play bad you get a

1744
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 3: whole nother chance at it.

1745
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 2: It really stinks for the corn fairy players who have

1746
01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 2: maybe got off to a good start because then they're

1747
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:57,680
Speaker 2: down there for another year, and it really screws the

1748
01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:00,200
Speaker 2: bottom guys in the golf world.

1749
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 1: The problem with the corn faery is like their seasons

1750
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 1: not as long as yours. So it's like you can't

1751
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 1: give somebody a card who played well in like five events,

1752
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:11,639
Speaker 1: you know, right.

1753
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 3: They've play played six events so far.

1754
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:14,759
Speaker 2: They would have to get off, they'd have to play

1755
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 2: right away and get a lot of events in.

1756
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:19,720
Speaker 3: I just I can't imagine what they're going to do

1757
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 3: or how they would make that fair.

1758
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:25,040
Speaker 2: But for us two guys, I mean, man, we've we've

1759
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:27,720
Speaker 2: already played what twenty events or something, or the possibilities

1760
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 2: out there.

1761
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 3: I know some guys have only played like eight or nine.

1762
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 1: But it's crazy because like the fall has become so

1763
01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 1: big now that right exactly, it's weird that you're like

1764
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 1: almost three quarters away through the season, you know, right

1765
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 1: like halfway actually, and it's too bad.

1766
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:44,880
Speaker 3: We've missed every quote unquote big event.

1767
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 2: We've missed the four Majors, and the players didn't get finished,

1768
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 2: and so you know, you feel like the golfleet doesn't

1769
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 2: even start until now almost, is what a lot of guys,

1770
01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 2: you know, feel like kind of maybe Rive kicks off

1771
01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 2: the season and you go through Florida. But I'm just

1772
01:18:57,960 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 2: super happy I don't have to make the decision because

1773
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 2: what ever it is, people are going to be really

1774
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 2: happy and really unhappy. I don't know about it. I'm

1775
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 2: I'm pretty good at sitting back and letting people make

1776
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 2: their decisions. And either way, you got to live with

1777
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:11,639
Speaker 2: it and you got to make.

1778
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 3: The best of it.

1779
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 2: So I just hoped that, you know, everyone, like everyone else,

1780
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:18,559
Speaker 2: I hope this goes away sooner rather than later.

1781
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 3: I hope everyone stays healthy.

1782
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 2: And you know, I hope the economy is okay after

1783
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:23,720
Speaker 2: all this.

1784
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 3: That's a whole other world to go down.

1785
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 2: But I just hope that everything comes out okay and

1786
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 2: when it I really really think that the world needs sports.

1787
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:34,719
Speaker 2: So if you think about major moments that we've had

1788
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 2: in the past, like sports brings people together.

1789
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:39,879
Speaker 3: It gives them a relief, an outlet.

1790
01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:42,439
Speaker 2: So you know, I remember after nine to eleven, Bush

1791
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:44,479
Speaker 2: throughout the first pitch at Yankee Stadium, and it was

1792
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 2: like this amazing moment. It was like united, like this

1793
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 2: as divided as a country is, whether you're black, white, purple,

1794
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:55,599
Speaker 2: or you're leaning left or leaning right, like it doesn't

1795
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 2: it doesn't really matter at this point. We just need

1796
01:19:57,520 --> 01:19:59,880
Speaker 2: to do the right thing for everybody around us, and

1797
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:00,880
Speaker 2: whatever that is.

1798
01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:01,680
Speaker 3: Do it.

1799
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:04,600
Speaker 2: And then whatever if we can get NBA to go

1800
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 2: to Vegas and play their their games and just stick

1801
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 2: everybody hotel where they're isolated and play a game, and

1802
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 2: I'm sure they have resources to figure that out. No fans, obviously,

1803
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 2: I think golf.

1804
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:16,600
Speaker 3: Could play with no fans. It would be limited volunteers.

1805
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:18,640
Speaker 2: You wouldn't have people in the locker room, play out

1806
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 2: of you know, like go mini tour style, play out

1807
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:22,920
Speaker 2: of the trunk of her cars, bring your own food.

1808
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:27,160
Speaker 1: You could have coverage and better competition without fans.

1809
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you could do so much stuff with

1810
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 2: and then Yeah, sure, I mean there's a you would

1811
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 2: get a lot of It'd be different, but I think

1812
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 2: that you would still get great competition.

1813
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:41,479
Speaker 3: The players would still play and it would be I

1814
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 3: think it'd be great.

1815
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:44,120
Speaker 2: So I don't care who comes back, but we need

1816
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 2: sports somewhere somehow to have an outlet for you know,

1817
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:49,759
Speaker 2: we can only watch so many old school classics before

1818
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:51,639
Speaker 2: you know, those kind of run out as well.

1819
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:53,200
Speaker 3: So I don't care what it is.

1820
01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 2: I don't care if NBA or Baseball or somebody figure

1821
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 2: out a way to get sports back in the world

1822
01:20:58,080 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 2: so people have an outlet. I don't care if it's

1823
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:02,120
Speaker 2: called or not, but sometimes a sports somewhere.

1824
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like your idea of the season and a half.

1825
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:07,479
Speaker 1: I think that makes actually a ton of sense. And

1826
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:10,320
Speaker 1: I've been thinking about it. It's like I've always said,

1827
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:12,960
Speaker 1: just wipe it and start over, but it doesn't. It's

1828
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 1: not really fair to somebody having a great year.

1829
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you got Sung Jamis leading the fed

1830
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 2: Ice Cup. You got a guy like me, he's off

1831
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 2: to a pretty good start.

1832
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 3: You got guys like you know who maybe have won

1833
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 3: for the first time or something like that. You can't

1834
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:28,680
Speaker 3: wipe that out. So I think you just carried over

1835
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:29,120
Speaker 3: and the other.

1836
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:31,120
Speaker 2: You can't just move this season ahead because then you're

1837
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 2: these these fall tournaments. You can't just you know, we're

1838
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:37,840
Speaker 2: gonna play the Masters and where Vegas is, Like, I mean,

1839
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:40,599
Speaker 2: you can do that, but like it'd be terrible, you can't,

1840
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 2: So I say you just roll it over.

1841
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:45,479
Speaker 3: I don't know what they do with the past. De

1842
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 3: Vinci didn't work out. I'm not smart enough to figure

1843
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:49,320
Speaker 3: that out. But get everybody a fair shot.

1844
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:54,560
Speaker 2: Let them just kind of continue where they're at and.

1845
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 1: And you'll see more big names play in spots they

1846
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 1: don't usually play.

1847
01:21:56,920 --> 01:22:00,160
Speaker 2: Whatever first tournament that comes back is could be the

1848
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:01,479
Speaker 2: greatest field in histuy, Like, can.

1849
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 3: You imagine if it's like.

1850
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:05,640
Speaker 2: Like the John Dear and everybody's just I mean you have,

1851
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:08,720
Speaker 2: like it's better than the players field or something. It'd

1852
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 2: just be mind boggling. What would what would come back?

1853
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:13,640
Speaker 2: So maybe it's a barber salt or something like that.

1854
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:16,920
Speaker 2: It would just be awesome to watch players play.

1855
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 1: Tiger comes back to the Quad Cities in place for

1856
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 1: the first time since he, uh, since Ed Fiori took

1857
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:24,240
Speaker 1: him down in ninety six.

1858
01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 3: Is that a real story? That's awesome to look into that.

1859
01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:31,640
Speaker 1: It's a it's a great story, he called. He was

1860
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 1: he was talking about retiring golf from golf the week

1861
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 1: before and captaining a charter boat. And then the next

1862
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:41,720
Speaker 1: week he beat Tiger, and then the next in a

1863
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 1: final round, Tiger had the lead in a final round.

1864
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 1: Next guy to beat Tiger was y. Yeah in that situation.

1865
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:50,880
Speaker 3: So that's so awesome.

1866
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Tiger comes.

1867
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 3: Where we need it. We need where is Ed Fiori,

1868
01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:55,759
Speaker 3: Now that's what we need.

1869
01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 1: He's I did a flashback Friday on Ed Fiori. So

1870
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 1: but he just is like hanging out at a pool

1871
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:08,200
Speaker 1: in his house. Calls him the pool boy.

1872
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:13,280
Speaker 3: Now good for him. Well, that's so awesome, all right.

1873
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 3: I think that'd be fun whatever it may be. I

1874
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:16,799
Speaker 3: hope it. I hope it all works out in the end.

1875
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:20,479
Speaker 1: Yeah. Hey, thanks for the time. People can follow you

1876
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:24,960
Speaker 1: on Twitter. You're active there and hopefully everybody's got a

1877
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:27,200
Speaker 1: new player to root for, so I hope.

1878
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 3: So yeah, thanks for having me on, Andy, I appreciate it.

1879
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:31,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, I'll hopefully see you in a few

1880
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:34,759
Speaker 1: months when this thing gets gets going again.

1881
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking forward to it for sure. All right,

1882
01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:40,599
Speaker 3: all right, take care, thanks man, you bet