1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:02,679 Speaker 1: What's up. This is Ray Saron Jenkins, and you're listening 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: to the Chargers Podcast Network. Hey, everybody, welcome to The 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: Final Drive presented by Mercury Insurance. Chris Harry here with you. 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: We're gonna get to Eric Williams of ESPN. I talked 5 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: to him and Haley O would directly after the game. 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: The Chargers lose thirteen ten to the Lions. Let's get 7 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: Eric's reaction to the loss, and then Haley and I 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: will jump in later. About as frustrating a loss as 9 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: you can imagine. Eric Williams, Yeah, you know, it's just 10 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: talking to Haley before we got started. It was reminiscent 11 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: of a couple of years ago when they before this 12 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: team had kind of learned how to win those close games, 13 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: they were losing games like this where they would make 14 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,319 Speaker 1: a lot of mistakes and then they wouldn't be able 15 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: to capitalize at the end of the games because it 16 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: just this mistakes just mounted and they've just put themselves 17 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,959 Speaker 1: in a position where they couldn't work themselves out of it. 18 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: That was the case today, although I felt like that 19 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: last drive that they were going to get to the 20 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: end zone and somehow the right Yeah, just because they 21 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: because they moved the ball the entire game. They went 22 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: up and down the field. They just didn't get in 23 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: the end zone because of penalties or turnovers. Um, so 24 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: you kind of sense that they were going to be 25 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: able to get there. They converted a couple third downs. 26 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: Mike Williams made a big play, Keenan made a big 27 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: play to kind of get them in scoring position. But 28 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 1: then you know, Philip you know, tries to throw that 29 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: that back shoulder ball to Keenan and Darius turned and 30 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: found it, uh and then made it made a big 31 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: play on the interception. So, um, you know, I think 32 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: if you're the Chargers, you're frustrated. This is a game 33 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: that you feel like you control the entire time and 34 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: should have came away with a victory. But you don't 35 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: get it. You're one and one, You go home. You 36 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: get to play the Texans. UM. That's probably a more 37 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: meaningful game because they're an AFC opponent for an NFC opponent. 38 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: So while you're you're upset, you can't feel too badly 39 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: about it because ultimately you didn't play well. Helly, I 40 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: go to that third quarter, Chargers were up ten to six. 41 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: They completely outplayed Detroit in that third quarter. But that's 42 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: equence where Justin Jackson gets a touchdown called back, Austin 43 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: Eckler gets a touchdown called back, then Eckler ultimately fumbles 44 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: Tay Long miss is a field goal um. The Chargers 45 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: had two interceptions in that quarter from Casey Hayward Rashon Jenkins. 46 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 1: It just seemed like nothing could really go their way ultimately. Yeah, 47 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: that definitely was what it seemed like. And it was 48 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: just it was guys in the locker room talking to them. 49 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: It was frustrating. That's sort of the takeaway from this game. 50 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: But talking to a guy like Austin Ekeler, I mean, 51 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 1: he he's mad at himself ultimately and for making those 52 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: mistakes and things like that. But he said I asked him, 53 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, how do you not though, let the frustration manifest? 54 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: And he said, kind of just use it. He's like, 55 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 1: I'm gonna use it as fuel. I'm gonna use it 56 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: as fuel for next week's game. And he said it 57 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: was a rookie mistake by him to try to jump 58 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: over and when he fumbled, and he'll learn from it. 59 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: He had been successful previously. Yeah, the training camp touched 60 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: down another game. But one thing coach Lynn said when 61 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 1: he talked to reporters here is there's a time to 62 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: jump over and there's a time just day on the ground. 63 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: He felt that was a time where he didn't have 64 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: to jump. He could have stayed in the ground and 65 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: found a crease to get in whether than you know, 66 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: try to go over the top and you lead the 67 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: ball up in the air like that. And so that 68 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: was a learning moment obviously for Austin. Mike Williams with 69 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: a nice capper to the first half of that forty 70 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: seven yard catch from Philip Rivers and Ty Long. Hey, 71 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: what can you say? I mean, he steps in missed 72 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: two field goals today, but he made the one at 73 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: the end of the first half. But I think it's 74 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: clear that this team does Dean Michael Badgett back, Yeah, 75 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: no doubt. I mean they call him the money badget 76 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: for a reason, right. I Mean, he's your starting kicker 77 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: because he's one of the best kickers in the league, 78 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: I think, and just in terms of how he's performed 79 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: over the last year. So yeah, you're gonna miss him. Ultimately, 80 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: they were able to get by with Ty the previous 81 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: week this week. You know, it doesn't work in their favor. 82 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,119 Speaker 1: You know, the one off the left crossbar. I think 83 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: that kind of got in his head a little bit, 84 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: and then you know, you get the other one when 85 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: you end up pushing it. I think it was wide right, 86 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: It's like, it's that correct if I remember it. I 87 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: think so. So. I mean, that's that's kind of part 88 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: of the whole story, right. You have a backup kicker 89 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: who actually kicked pretty well the previous week. Now he 90 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: doesn't kick as well, and you're not able to pick 91 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: him up in every other areas of the of the game. 92 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: I think what's strange too, is like Prater missed the 93 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: field goal or extra point. Vinatieri gave up a bunch 94 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: of points the week before, so the charges were kind 95 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: of getting lucky with the opposing team missing kicks. Yeah, 96 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: they weren't getting those breaks that way. But then when 97 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: it happens to you and you miss out on six points, 98 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: makes a difference at the end of the day, Yeah, 99 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: it does. I think ultimately, what coach Lynn is frustrated 100 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: about is this had been a team that was doing 101 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: a great job of not beating themselves over the previous 102 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: season and really making other teams beat them, playing a 103 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: clean game, you know, limiting penalties, limiting turnovers, just keeping 104 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 1: the chains moving. And that totally changed today and so 105 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: now you kind of have to go back and go, 106 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: we really need to emphasize the fundamentals, making sure we're 107 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: doing everything correctly so that we're not getting in a 108 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: situation where this becomes a weekly thing exactly. And this 109 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: was the Chargers game to win, you know. You know, 110 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: and you go back to last year, that a set mentality. 111 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: They were seven to one on the road, eight and 112 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 1: one if you count the game in London, So this 113 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: was a team that was capable of winning virtually anywhere. 114 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: And you know, this first road game, I think it's 115 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: important to realize if there's fourteen more to go first off, 116 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,119 Speaker 1: and the fact that you said it's an NFC team, 117 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: you know that Texans game is going to be a 118 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: little bit more, especially beating Indie. If you could be 119 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: Indian Houston going into Miami, that's a that's something you 120 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: can rebound from quickly. Yeah, That's why I brought it up, 121 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: because if you're gonna lose a game, you'd rather lose 122 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: this one than lose that. Texans game at home because 123 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: it's going to factor in, you know, playoff seeding, and 124 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: if you get in the playoffs, potentially that's a much 125 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: more important game that you want to win that's outside 126 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: of your division. Although you hate to just hand over 127 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: a game to another team, which and Gary tell you 128 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: this locker room right, no, that they don't care if 129 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: this was an NFC or a team they're frustrated with. 130 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: The only frustrated you know, give give Detroit credit. They 131 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: certainly made enough plays to earn the victory. Um, so 132 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: they think, you know, you have to kind of say 133 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: that as well. Wasn't like they just they didn't do anything. 134 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: I mean, Darius Lay had to make a big play 135 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: to get the picks to seal the victory for the Lions. 136 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: But certainly the Chargers left a bunch of plays out there. 137 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: It was a great measurable day, slave or Slayer fun 138 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: to watch. It was fun to watch closing thoughts before 139 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: we missed the bus Pilly. Yeah, that's right, that's a 140 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: great bro I will say one bright spot though, Mike 141 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: Williams and Keenan Allen combined eleven receptions one hundred and 142 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 1: eighty one yards. It's big it's really really big, especially 143 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: knowing Mike. You know they were talkause is he fully 144 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: healthy coming into this game, but he came up in 145 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: huge situations for this team. You mentioned that the two 146 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: interceptions that have been something that had been a point 147 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: of emphasis during offseason work training camp. They wanted to 148 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: get more interceptions in the back end. So the fact 149 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: that they were able to get two of them, they 150 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: usually come in bunches, so maybe that's a sign of 151 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: things to come. For that second, it was a big 152 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 1: deal to see in case he didn't have one last year. 153 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 1: He did have that pick two in week seventeen, but 154 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: that doesn't count. Book. But Eric Williams ESPN, you'll be 155 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: joining us on these postgame podcasts. We very much look 156 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: forward to it. Charges tough l here thirteen ten from 157 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: ford Field. Me and Hailey are gonna try to get 158 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: back to La here in a quick manner. Yeah, thanks Eric, Hey, 159 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: Thanks guys. 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If you told them, hey, it's an NFC team, 177 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: I don't think they'd take to that too kindly because 178 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: they want to win every game. But you have Houston 179 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: up this Sunday. You already beat Indie, a great opportunity 180 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: to rebound, absolutely, and I think this team will do that. 181 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: And talking to guys in the locker room yesterday, they 182 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: you know, kind of what I said in that conversation 183 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: with Eric Austin, Eckler said he's going to use that 184 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: frustration as fuel for next week's game and everything like that. 185 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: So I think it is a good opportunity to rebound. Look, 186 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: it's extremely hard, we know in this league to go undefeated. 187 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: Losses are going to happen at times. It's just kind 188 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: of how it goes. But all in all, sure this 189 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: team can absolutely rebound. They've done it before, they've done 190 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: it in the past, and it's worked out for them 191 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: in the end. Losses happened every single team. I think 192 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: what's probably frustrating for this group is that they know 193 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: they shouldn't have lost this one. How it happened, and 194 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: how it happened that third quarter especially. We broke it 195 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: down with Eric. The two interceptions, that sequence where you 196 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: have two touchdowns called back due to penalties, the fune 197 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: ball at the one yard line, you missed two field 198 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: goals in the second half, all of those things. Just 199 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: one of those things goes right for the Chargers, they 200 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: probably win the game one hundred percent. It was sort 201 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: of those mistakes that this team in a way almost 202 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: used to make and was kind of known for making, 203 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: and then they got over that hump and they found 204 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: a way to win close games. But again, you know 205 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 1: it happens. And talking to Casey Hayward yesterday, I was like, 206 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: but what is the difference though, between winning in week 207 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,479 Speaker 1: one and losing in week two? And he said, ultimately, 208 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: He's like he put the onus on the defense. He's like, 209 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: the offense kind of bailed us out in week one. 210 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: We need to bail them out and help them when 211 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: it's our turn of state. They certainly did it too, 212 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: he did. The thing is if you allow just thirteen points, 213 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: the defense is doing his job, I mean part of 214 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: the offense and overall, I mean one of the things 215 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: when I kind of went back and looked at this game, 216 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: Matt Stafford had two picks that the Chargers couldn't do 217 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 1: anything with at the end of the day. The one 218 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: drive obviously was the one that had the two touchdowns 219 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: nullified and the Neckler's fumble, and then the second one, 220 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,719 Speaker 1: I believe was a field goal miss. So that's a 221 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: huge bummer. When you get those turnovers but you can't 222 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: capitalize off of them, that hurts you in the end. 223 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: Chargers offense, though they moved the ball. Kenyan Allen eight 224 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 1: for ninety eight, Austin Eckler six for sixty seven, Mike 225 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: Williams three for eighty three, including that forty seven yard 226 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: or at the end. Actually, I was down on the 227 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: field when Philip threw that ball. It was a beautiful ball, 228 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: it was, yeah, and it halftime was about to start 229 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: and he was in the corner of the end zone 230 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: and he took his helmet off, all in good nature 231 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: with the crowd like that was a pretty ball, wasn't it. 232 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: And I think I think they agreed. I think they 233 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: did too, but it was it was great to see 234 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: them move the ball. But again, it's the penalties, and 235 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: the Chargers only had three penalties a week one, you know, 236 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 1: the lowest in the league. So to go from that 237 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 1: to what you saw on Sunday, obviously things need to 238 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: be cleaned up a little bit. Yeah, what wasn't nine 239 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: for seventy Yeah, that hurts you. In the end, ultimately 240 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: shown a road on the road one hundred percent, and 241 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: this offense was moving the ball. But then you know, 242 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: they didn't score again after that second quarter, so you 243 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: have to be able to finish those drives and ultimately, 244 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: like we said, you know, two of them ended in 245 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: field goal misses. But it doesn't help you when you 246 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: can get down. You know, it sounds stupid to say, 247 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: like I sound like an idiot, but you need to 248 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: be able to finish those drives and they didn't necessarily 249 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: do that at all times yesterday. And injuries are going 250 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: to happen to all thirty two teams. This team just 251 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: seems to be hit by injuries a little bit harder 252 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 1: right now at this point. And Coach Lynn is going 253 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: to have his press conference, So if you're listening to 254 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: this before one fifteen Pacific, be sure to listen to 255 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: Coach Lynn or just go back to charges dot com 256 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: later this afternoon and hear what he has to say. 257 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: I'm interested to see what he has to say about 258 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: some of the injuries and just kind of his reaction 259 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: to after watching the tape a little bit. Yeah, but 260 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: you know, again kind of talking to guys in the 261 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: locker room because they were getting peppered with questions about, oh, 262 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: you guys are injured, and you have injuries to keep players. 263 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: But no one was using that though, as an excuse 264 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: as to why they lost this game. And I think 265 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: that has been a great part of the Anthony Lynn 266 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: culture of that next man up mentality that really these 267 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: guys do believe that whoever is next in that role 268 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: will rise to the occasion. So they weren't necessarily using 269 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: that as an excuse. It as a bummer. Obviously, this 270 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: team would look a lot different if guys like Hunter 271 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: and Derwin were on the field and things like that. 272 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: But ultimately, though, you know, it'll be interesting kind of 273 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: where they go from here with some of the guys 274 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: that got nicked up yesterday, but Dan Phillips off the game, yeah, 275 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: Darwin Hunter, Melvin Russell. Again, the team doesn't use it 276 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: as excuses, but that's just the facts right now, the facts, 277 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: you know, if the facts that if those guys give 278 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: and take even a couple others like Michael Davis yesterday, 279 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: if he was healthy and he was on the field 280 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: another great example, right, it could make a big difference 281 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: at the end of the day. And Mike Williams, he 282 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: was a game time decision, went in three for eighty three, 283 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: so for him to kind of gut it out as well. 284 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: I'm not discouraged because this team has done it time 285 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: and time again on the road. At home, they've found 286 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: ways to rebound and bounce back from adversity. Yeah, so 287 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: I don't think any Chargers fins should be concerned about that. 288 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: It's just frustrated to lose a game to all of 289 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:19,719 Speaker 1: those guys that they should have won. All of those 290 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: guys know they should have won. And when you hold 291 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: your appointment opponent, excuse me, to just six points through 292 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 1: three quarters, you have a shot, you have. I think 293 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 1: that's what was encouraging Hailey too, is we saw the 294 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: rushing defense from week one to week two really tightened 295 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: up there. So they made the necessary adjustments defensively. But 296 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: you know it's only week two. It's only week two, 297 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: so week three, just to look ahead a little bit, 298 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: the next five opponents the Chargers have are all AFC opponents, 299 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: starting with Houston, and it's it's only Monday, but you know, 300 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: Houston they scored thirteen points. I think they beat the 301 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: Jack's thirteen to twelve. It's going to be fun because 302 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 1: there's always storylines each and every week. That we got 303 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: the brothers, we got Deshaun Watson and Mike Williams, connection 304 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: j Hopkins, an old friend Julilade comes back to Los Angeles. 305 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 1: So this game has a has a little bit of juice. 306 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: It does have a little bit of juice, and I 307 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: think it'll be a really exciting game. I think it'll 308 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: be really interesting. I you know, it's a it's a 309 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: good test for this Chargers team. I think with Houston 310 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: coming in, and like you said at the top, the 311 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: implications though, of getting a win against this team so 312 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: much greater because ultimately seating and conference record and things 313 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: like that to be determined towards the end of the season. 314 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: A win or loss here can make a huge difference there. 315 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: It can and whether it's Indie Houston, there could be 316 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: a team you're competing with for a wild card spot. 317 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: Obviously you're hoping to take the AFC West, but this 318 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: is a great test to see if you can get 319 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: two AFC wins in the span of three weeks before 320 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: going to Miami. And I know Miami has been struggling 321 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: of late, but listen, any road game, you gotta take 322 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: every single opponent very very seriously. Yeah, any given Sunday. 323 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: I mean, as we always say, it's a week to 324 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: week league, and you can't discredit the Dolphins at this point. 325 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously they got blanked by the Patriots, on Sunday, 326 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: But at the same time, you never know anything else 327 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: that stood out to you that you're going to be 328 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: thinking about going into week three. Hailey, I think overall, 329 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: just kind of seeing how these guys rebound, which we 330 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: talked about a little bit and we know that they can, 331 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: but sort of just putting this behind them. You know, 332 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: Casey and Austin kind of had two semi different takes 333 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: on that. Austin, like I said, he said, you know, 334 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: he'll use it as fuel, and Casey said he'll probably 335 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: sit on this a little bit until it is officially 336 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: time to turn the page to Houston on Wednesday, and 337 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: obviously once eight am nine am on Wednesday, HiT's these 338 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: guys will totally be focused on it, but you know 339 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: it'll be interesting and just kind of being able to 340 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: shut out the noise, which this team does a really 341 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: great job at every day, week in, week out, but 342 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: just kind of seeing how they rebound. But ultimately, and 343 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: like I said in that interview with Eric, I was 344 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: just so impressed by Keenan and Mike, and I mean 345 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: Keenan was covered by Darius Slay all day. That was 346 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: a heck of a matchup and honestly, like if you 347 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: don't have game pass, get game pass just for that 348 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: because I want to go back and watch that matchup. Yeah, 349 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: and they were so they were so impressive. I mean 350 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: to put up those numbers, and especially, like I said too, 351 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: with Mike not practicing two days last week, kind of 352 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: being dinged up coming into this game and putting up 353 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: the numbers that he did and coming through and clutch 354 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: situations was huge. It's one thing to be, you know, 355 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: you upset, you lose to a team on the road 356 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: that you probably should have beat, But it gives you 357 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: a great perspective too, because this team, you take the 358 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: playoffs out of it. This was the first road loss 359 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: on a plane that this team had twenty seventeen. We 360 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: didn't have that feeling no last year. You know, we 361 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: were a lot of good flights last year save for 362 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: the New England game, and you know that one was 363 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: unfortunately that by halftime New England kind of put their 364 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: stamp on that thing. But last year to go through 365 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: all of these tough places from London to Seattle to 366 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh to Kansas City and come out with a win. 367 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: I think Tom and Coach Lynn have said it, like 368 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: you can't recreate last year. You have to. Every year 369 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: is its own year, So this is another learning experience. 370 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: I think, you know, Detroit, they have some players and 371 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: this is year two of Matt Patricia and their program, 372 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: so you know, it's certainly one to learn from. And 373 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: again the fact that it's an NFC team, I think 374 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: when you look back on it, it may be a 375 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: little bit easier to swallow, even though every loss kind 376 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: of stinks, and it's so early on in the season two. 377 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: I mean, there's so much football left to be played 378 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: that ultimately losses like this, I mean, like we said, 379 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: the losses will eventually happen. So hard to go undefeated 380 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: in this league. I think they're what seven teams that 381 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: are undefeated right now or eight something like that that 382 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: are two and oh. But with that being said, you 383 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 1: put it behind you, you move on, And to your 384 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: point about Tom and coach, momentum may not carry over, 385 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: but that culture will, yes, And I think that's where 386 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: these guys will find that at the end of the day, 387 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: that culture that's been building. You go back to that culture, 388 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: especially when when you have moments like this throughout the season, 389 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: and it's going to happen to every single team. You're 390 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 1: going to face a verse. That's what the NFL is. 391 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: So to go back to that culture and kind of 392 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: your your core beliefs, that's going to get you through 393 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: to week three. All right, Haley Final Drive presented by 394 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: Mercury Insurance. Hoping for a different outcome next week. Hopefully 395 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: get a player on here after the Chargers play the Texans. 396 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for listening. The new Chargers 397 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: podcast network, we are rolling with podcasts. The Playmaker's pod 398 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: is up, Episode three coming, Haley's got a special guest. 399 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: We'll have Chargers Weekly up. Mike and Ike are doing 400 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,479 Speaker 1: things on the Backstage Chargers podcast, and then we'll be 401 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: back of course next Sunday. Thank you guys for listening, 402 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: and we'll see you next time.