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Speaker 1: I am all in. I am all in with Scott

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Speaker 1: Patterson and I heart radio podcast everybody, Scott Patterson, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk to Jessica Kuyper, who played Shane in Lazy Hazy,

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Speaker 1: Crazy Days of Summer, was Milo's girlfriend. We saw him

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Speaker 1: kissing under a tree, which shocked Rory and who would

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Speaker 1: put on a nice dress in case she ran into

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Speaker 1: jess and she ran into jess and she ran into

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Speaker 1: Jessica Kuyper as well. Um, so we're gonna talk to

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Speaker 1: a little one on one, get some behind the scenes,

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Speaker 1: and let's bring her in. Hi, how are you doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm good, good, Thanks for coming on. When years twenty years,

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Speaker 1: it's it's I mean, I do remember you. I do

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Speaker 1: remember you. You were very kind? Was I I was kind?

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Speaker 1: You know? I used to be kind, you know, at

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Speaker 1: least I used to be. No, I'm really I don't

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Speaker 1: know you're you're that scene, I'll tell you that. What

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Speaker 1: an impactful scene that was. First of all, let me look,

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Speaker 1: we're talking to Jessica Kuyper here. Uh, you were in

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Speaker 1: a total of like four episodes, right, You're in four

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Speaker 1: episodes and when we first see you, my literally just

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Speaker 1: talk about it. Oh, man, that really impacted me. Shane

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Speaker 1: was used and abused. Yeah, but but I mean I

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Speaker 1: haven't seen I guess because I haven't seen those episodes.

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Speaker 1: I'm just seeing it for the first time. That's the

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Speaker 1: first time, and I wow, I was shocked when I

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Speaker 1: saw that episode. But then I realized, Well, it was

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Speaker 1: a whole summer went by. You know, he was twiddling

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Speaker 1: his thumbs all summer. He meets you and he's like,

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Speaker 1: what twiddling more than the sum Yeah? Really like, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, wholesome is it? Yes? I've listened to a

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Speaker 1: few of you. Aren't they wholesome? Is that was how

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Speaker 1: you describe the fans? Are? So? I didn't want the

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Speaker 1: same thing dirty. But so tell us what it was

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Speaker 1: like getting that role. What do you remember about it,

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Speaker 1: the audition process and all that when Oh, well, I

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Speaker 1: guess he helped me get it. He told me that

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Speaker 1: later when we met. He told me that he saw us,

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Speaker 1: and I remember seeing him walking to Amy's office and

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Speaker 1: at the you know, callbacks. I guess there was probably

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Speaker 1: just like five people being seen, but I only saw

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Speaker 1: two other women, girls, children, And he walked in and uh,

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Speaker 1: we smiled at each other, and then he said, and

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Speaker 1: you told her that I was the most interesting looking. Really,

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Speaker 1: I probably just looked like the biggest hussey in the group.

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Speaker 1: That's fine, whatever works, right, whatever gets you the gig

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Speaker 1: competitions a monster, isn't it. Jesus, What a good gig

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Speaker 1: to get though, huh. I remember how something about the

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Speaker 1: audition besides him, besides seeing him. Oh well, I had

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Speaker 1: never watched the show, and I still have not watched

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Speaker 1: the entire series. We have that in common, um, but

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Speaker 1: I knew it was a big show. Oh, my car

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Speaker 1: had broken down on the side of the road, like

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Speaker 1: a sim horizon from the eighties. But I was always

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Speaker 1: driving around beaters, you know, are they and when you're

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Speaker 1: the side of the road on the East Kueanga before

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Speaker 1: you go over. That's a bad place to break down. Well,

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Speaker 1: there's a fire thing right down the road. But anyways,

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Speaker 1: of dangerous. Yes, it is dangerous, there's no But that's

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Speaker 1: when I got the call. While I was waiting on

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Speaker 1: I booked it. Really, that's one of those fun stories.

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Speaker 1: And I didn't know anything about it. I didn't know

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Speaker 1: anything about Milo and uh, yeah, I did you read

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Speaker 1: then luckily he saw me. Hey, you know what it's like? Hey, whatever,

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Speaker 1: you know it's it's there's a million reasons you get

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Speaker 1: a job. If it's because the lead actor thinks they're cute,

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Speaker 1: that's okay, there's nothing wrong with that, and they're not. Look,

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Speaker 1: they're not going to let you on the set if

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Speaker 1: beat out several girls. But that extra something right then,

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Speaker 1: better scene. Well, we we didn't have fun scenes. I

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Speaker 1: you about my little go ahead nothing bad, No, no no,

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Speaker 1: very close to Warner Brothers. And he went in and

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Speaker 1: spoke to a priest. And I mean he didn't try

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Speaker 1: noticed that in the scene. Yes, and what's a what's

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Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, well, it's like life is

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Speaker 1: I remember everybody on set on the cast, you know,

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Speaker 1: the younger the younger cast members were all jostling for position.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I I remember Liza, you know, cruising his trailer. Everyone.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he caused quite a star. I don't know

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Speaker 1: people's actor names, like you Liza, Liza played Pari. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I remember he just you know, it's like everybody

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Speaker 1: I'm so lucky, but like I wish maybe like this

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Speaker 1: And then just like sometimes I'm like, I'm so honored

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