1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: Ron Ananian, the cars get more complicated they are. You know, 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: they can't afford to maintain all the electronics and inventory. 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: There's too many choices, too many possibilities, and I think 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: we're going to see more of this as time goes on. 5 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: The Car Doctor, I get so just wondering if you 6 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: could give me a few hints, you know, on how 7 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: to bet take care of a Turbo char direct injected Injine. 8 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: Every time I think Turbo's Jeremy, I think about heat. 9 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of Ron and Aanian, the 10 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 1: Car Doctor, since this is where car owners the world 11 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If 12 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up the 13 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: phone and call in the garage orders are open, but 14 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: I am here to take their calls at eight five 15 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: five six and now he running. My father was an 16 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: airline mechanic during the war. He uh He worked out 17 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: at LaGuardia Airport in New York City. UM. He was 18 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: superintendent of maintenance for uh UM LaGuardia American Airlines. He 19 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: had direct UM he was superintendent of maintenance and he 20 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: had direct authority over President Roosevelt's DC three. We've talked 21 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: about this before. You and I Welcome to the car doctor, 22 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: by the way. And I remember Dad was very serious 23 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: when came to talking about aircraft maintenance. And you know, 24 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: he always explained to me that, you know, there's gonna 25 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: be that moment when you're working on something mechanical where 26 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: you gotta be sure you're right, because you know, people's 27 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: lives are in your hands. And he always used to 28 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: kid me, and you know, as a little kid, I 29 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: remember because he was gone by the time I was 30 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: eleven years old he passed. Uh. You know, he always 31 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: would say, you know, be sure you're right and then 32 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: go ahead. And you know you can't step out out 33 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: of cloud at ten thousand feet and adjust anything. You've 34 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: got to be sure when that when that vehicle leaves 35 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: the barn, as you would put it, that um, you 36 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 1: know it's ready to go. I never forgot that. I 37 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: I carry that with me every day. That's one of 38 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: the things, you know, as we all do right as 39 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: human beings, we all carry that in our subconscious in 40 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: the back of our mind. Be sure it's right and 41 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: let it go, you know, but you've got to be 42 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: sure you're doing the right thing. You've got to do 43 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: the right thing. You can't go wrong down right street. 44 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: Another expression I've lived by. We had to know five 45 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: Toyota wrap four that came into the shop this week, 46 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: and it came out of a body shop. Um, and 47 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: a regular customer of ours. She had been in an 48 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: accident and she needed to have it repaired. And you know, 49 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: after the body repairs, it came to us for maintenance 50 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 1: oil change and and you know, a superfluous look over 51 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: uh you know to uh, you know, did they do 52 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: it right? And is the vehicle in good shape? And 53 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: so on and so forth. It kind of looked like 54 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: it was assembled by a four year old. For lack 55 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 1: of a better way to put it, I mean, they 56 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: got all the parts back, but you know, goofy little things. 57 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: The radiator was leaking because the overflow tube didn't have 58 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: a clamp on it. Had they had put a radiator 59 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: in it, but you know, the attention to detail wasn't 60 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: to put a clamp on that overflow tube, so it 61 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: would drip and drip and drip and made a mess. 62 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: And the the you know, um, the the engine oil 63 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: dipstick wasn't all the way in the hall because for 64 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: some reason they had taken off I don't understand this, 65 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: but they had taken off the O ring that was 66 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: sealing it and they put on an over ring that 67 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 1: was so big that they couldn't get it back in 68 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: the tube and they just lifted sort of half hanging 69 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: out and the trans dipstick. They had broken the top off, 70 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: so it wasn't easy to grab and pull out. They 71 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: had to take the engine. They actually had to take 72 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: the engine out of the car in order to do 73 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: these repairs. It was shows you where they used car market, 74 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: is right. They didn't totally. They didn't totally oh five 75 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: rap four with I think sixty five thousand miles on it, 76 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: you know, low mileage vehicle. And we got it back 77 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: and you know, and she got it back and and 78 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: when she aret it there was a belt squeal. She 79 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: heard this, you know, horrendous noise. And at the body shop, 80 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: all fairness to them, they had it for three going 81 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: on four months because there were it was hard to 82 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: get parts. Hey do you hear there's a part shortage? 83 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: You had no kidden and she had to she had, 84 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: you know, no car for a couple of three or 85 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: four months and she was renting cars. And then when 86 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: she got it back, it you know a couple of things. 87 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: One of the headlights didn't work, the uh um, the 88 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: belt squealed when she started it leaving the body shop, 89 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: and she didn't realize that unbeknownst to her. But the 90 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: hood prop rod there was something weird about it. With 91 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: Danny and I couldn't put our finger on it. But 92 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: when we took it out, there was no place to 93 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 1: put it. And we're looking at it, looking at it, 94 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: and she said, no, no, it's going back. For that. 95 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 1: They had to get me some parts and I said, okay, 96 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: I'll I'll let that go for the moment. I've got 97 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: too many other things to look at here this car 98 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: that looked like it was put together by somebody's feet 99 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: instead of their hands. We attacked the power steering problem 100 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: as part of our you know serve as. We changed 101 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: the oil and we went through a couple of things, 102 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: but we had to attack the power steering and the belt. 103 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: You could see the belt was really starting to track badly. 104 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,799 Speaker 1: It was starting to fray and and beat up and 105 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,239 Speaker 1: and the backside of the belt was actually starting to fail. 106 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: You could see it was breaking through the outer layer 107 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: of rubber, working its way down into the secondary layer 108 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: of rubber, and the belt was about to just self destruct. Well, 109 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: it kind of became obvious after a while, especially when 110 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: we tried to, you know, take the belt off to 111 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: look at it further or to replace it. We weren't 112 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: sure we were going at that moment. We couldn't get 113 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: the tension er to move. It was frozen. It actually 114 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: had I guess it seased while it was sitting there 115 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: waiting those three months for parts. And you know, now 116 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: it needed a belt tensioner, and this is where the 117 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: real problem began. You know, too bad they didn't do 118 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: this when the engine was out of the car, because 119 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: you're you're looking right at the two bolts that that 120 00:05:55,600 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: hold the belt tensioner in place. Well, unfortunately, you know, 121 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: to get the belt tensioner out of this raft for 122 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 1: you need to pull the front motor mount on the 123 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: right side of the right side motor mount against the 124 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: frame rail out. But to get the motor mount out, 125 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: you need to take off the rubber insulator. And they 126 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: get the rubber insulator out, you need to take out 127 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: the A B S controller, undo all the brake lines, 128 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 1: and pick it up and get it out of the way. Well, 129 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: the mounting bolts for the A B S controller weren't 130 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: exactly in a great spot, but they were also you know, 131 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: my mother would say the word would be for schnoker, 132 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: all right. They were just a little beat up. And 133 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, that's not gonna come out too easy, 134 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: and we're gonna make a bigger mess out of this 135 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: than needs to be done. Not to mention, once we 136 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: get the A B S controller out, if we can't 137 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: get it out of the way enough to clear for 138 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: the motor maunt, we're gonna have to disconnect it rebleed 139 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: the system. And it's a fifteen going on sixteen year 140 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: old ABS controller and I'm thinking about sediment, and I'm 141 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: thinking about when we get it to bleed properly, and 142 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: what are we gonna stir up in the brakes that 143 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: we don't want to stir up? And I thought of Dad, 144 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 1: you know, it was it was a funny week like that. 145 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: I thought of my dad. He he you know, he 146 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: would have said to me, Ronnie, you know what, he 147 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: would say, sit down, use your head, think your way 148 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: out of the problem. So I did. I grabbed a stool, 149 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: and Danny and I sat there and we talked about it, 150 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: and I said, so we can't get oh, and I 151 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: didn't tell you this part because to get up the bolt, 152 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: the bolt would have to come out right through the 153 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: right side, uh, front cradle support. There's a there's a 154 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: beam there. It's about I don't know about thirty inches wide. Uh. 155 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: You know, it's part of the breakaway for the front 156 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: where they where they designed the front end of the vehicle. 157 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: And you know, too bad Toyota didn't put this a 158 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: little three quarter inch hole right in front of this 159 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: one bolt, and it would be able to slide out. 160 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: You want to think anything apart. And as I'm thinking 161 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: that to myself, I went, well, wait a minute, why 162 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: can't we put a three quarter inch hole there? Well, 163 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: why can't you? You know, I don't like drilling into frames. 164 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: I don't like drilling into structure. But you think to yourself, gee, 165 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: it's only a three quarter inch hole. It's not gonna 166 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: do anything. It's not going to create an issue. It's 167 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: not gonna, you know, make a problem anywhere down the line. 168 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: So I said to Danny, I said, let's get a 169 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: whole saw and we'll drool a three quarter inch hole 170 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: right here, and then what we'll do is, you know, 171 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: we've got I've got plastic cups. You know, we we save. 172 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: We're like rat packs are certain things we'll save. You know, 173 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: you get a hose assembly and there's a plastic cup 174 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: on it to keep the dirt from getting inside. Or 175 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: you you get some packing out of a box and 176 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: there's always an end cap of some kind. I'd say 177 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: that I have a box of a voodoo, I call 178 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: it and uh, I keep it under one of the 179 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: benches in the shop, and I pull it out every 180 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: once in a while, and they come in handy. So 181 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: three quarters inches a good size. It's a standard size. 182 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: We drilled a three quarter in sheet metal hole right 183 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: through the right through the side of this of this member, 184 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: and it was well. The way we did it was. 185 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: The way we did it was actually kind of neat 186 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: because we we've done this before for other applications building 187 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: hot rods and stuff. We eye bowled it where we 188 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: wanted it to be. It's got to be about here, 189 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: and drilled a very small pilot hole first, and then 190 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: we took a flashlight and shine the flashlight, held it 191 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: right up against the pilot hole and looked to see 192 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: where the beam of light was coming out, and we 193 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: were we were like spot on. Somehow we managed to 194 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: look at we were spot on. We were right on 195 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: top of the bolt. But the reason you do that 196 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: is because if you're wrong, you can take that pilot 197 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: hole and go a little to the left or a 198 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: little to the right and move where you want to 199 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: be accordingly, and then line it up and and always 200 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: remember the flashlight tricks. Shine that flashlight through the pilot 201 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: hole and you'll see where the beam of light is 202 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 1: and are you Are you lined up with the head 203 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: of the bolt. Now, I think the universe was on 204 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: our side doing this, or maybe Dad was kind of 205 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: guiding me from the great beyond, because I also realized 206 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: as I was drilling through, I kind of felt somebody 207 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: tap me on the shoulder and say, look at the gusset. 208 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: And I saw there's a small gusset panel where they 209 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: attached the brake hose line and we were just to 210 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: the right of that, so we missed it completely. Drill 211 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: the nice three quarter inch hole, pop the bolt out, 212 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: and we took what could have been a nightmare repair 213 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: and one to three done somewhere in the late fifties 214 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: early sixties. If you look at a GM shop manual, 215 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: there's a couple of lines and I would enjoy. I 216 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: enjoy reading old shop manuals. What can I tell you, 217 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: I'm weird and you know you're working on something and 218 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: the GM service manual will say, if applicant doesn't fit, 219 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: peen a relief, meaning make it dent, make a hole, 220 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: make it fit. And I've always thought of that too, 221 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: because I wonder if that's still applicable today, and I 222 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: guess it is, because you know, the grief and the 223 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 1: money we saved this person. Long story short, just really 224 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: came to pay off. The bolt came out, we put 225 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 1: the tensioner back on. Fortunately, Gates makes an excellent replacement 226 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: for this UM. I actually like what they did. They 227 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: made the gates, belts and hoses, right, hear me talk 228 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: about gates all the time. Gates makes an excellent tension 229 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 1: or for this vehicle. They beef up the um um nut, 230 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: the hecks that the wrench goes on to push the 231 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: tensioner down. One of the weak points of the Toyota 232 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: has on this. They you know, it's it's this, it's 233 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: this wobbly eighteen millimeter hes from Toyota, but from Gates 234 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: it's a solid eighteen millimeter. There's more meat to it, 235 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: and you can get a good wrench on it and 236 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: give it a good tug. And we put a gates 237 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: belt and tensioner on it, and uh that did the trick. 238 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: But you know, going back together and just lined the 239 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 1: bolt up line the bolt back in boom done. Took 240 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: one of the three quarter inch cups. Before I put 241 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: it in, I sprayed the inside of the beam with 242 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 1: some undercoating, and then I put this cap in place 243 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: and sprayed around it with undercoating and then painted over 244 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: the top of it. You know what, it looks like 245 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: a Toyota factory part somewhere that vehicle. In another life, 246 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: somebody's gonna take that apart and go, well look at this, 247 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: and how did that work out? Well, you know what, 248 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: we probably should have autographed. It was just a worker art, 249 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: it really was. And that was probably the repair of 250 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: the week this week. It just it just worked out. So, um, 251 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 1: think your way through the problem, I guess is my point. 252 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: Sit down and stop and gather your thoughts. You know, 253 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: if you're boxed into a corner if you can smell trouble. 254 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: And you know, I'm not telling you to break the 255 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: rules every time, but every once in a while you 256 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: really have to just kind of peen a relief and 257 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: make it work and you know, get that vehicle back 258 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: out on the road as as effectively and as cheaply 259 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,719 Speaker 1: as you possibly can. So that's that's the way we're 260 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: gonna open the show today. Hey like that, Tom, that worked? 261 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: It's on what you wanted to say something about the number. 262 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,719 Speaker 1: I know, I always say eight five zero is the 263 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 1: phone number you can give us a call, and we're 264 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: here seven. But Tom wants a story about that, don't you. Tom? Well, 265 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: I just I just wanted to say that people tend 266 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: to call lately and not leave a message. And I 267 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: surprised about four people today when I called them back 268 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, you actually call back? Yeah, we do, 269 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: and and and and if you don't leave a message, 270 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: we get the caller. I d so I don't know 271 00:12:58,160 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: if that's a spam call or what. So I called 272 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: back because if they need to talk to run, what 273 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: the heck? Well, you know, don't be afraid to leave 274 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: a message, and we do call you back. Oh yeah, absolutely, 275 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: that's what we want to do. You know, we're here 276 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: to fix your car at eight five five five six 277 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero. Um, you know that's what 278 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: this radio shows about. And I'm I'm glad you're doing that. Tom. 279 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 1: You're you know he had Yeah, Tom's the best. Um, 280 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: he's really good. I'm really blessed to have a great 281 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: engineer like Tom. So let's pull tell my wife that please, well, 282 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: I will well, no, listen, You're I may be blessed, 283 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: but your wife is a saint. That's a whole another story. 284 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: So let's pull over and take a pause. I'm roning 285 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: any of the Car Doctor and the Emeritus Tom Ray 286 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: will both be back right after this. Don't go away. 287 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: He drives that way. But when it comes to fixing cars, 288 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: Ron has card advice done right. Eight five five five 289 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: six zero nine nine zero zero. Here's Rod. Hey, let's 290 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: get over to talk to Peter from Quebec and see 291 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: what's on his mind. Peter, welcome to the Car Doctor. 292 00:13:55,040 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 1: You're on what's going on? Thanks loveless it to you, 293 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: Although I usually do it on podcasts because my reception 294 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: up here is pretty sketchy. Um, I'm just calling because 295 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 1: I read an article about Tesla handing over the keys 296 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: to it. Not keys, but what do they use cards 297 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: or something anyway to to PEPSI the first first of 298 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: their semis, and they talked about, you know, the car was, 299 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: how the truck was designed around the driver, you know, 300 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: with a lot of room and you can stand up 301 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: and at the driver and all these things. And they 302 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: even developed a cable a capable of charging that one 303 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: mega lot. I guess that's that's a pretty rapid charger, 304 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: I suppose. And and they go on about all these 305 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: things and how they're going to produce fifty of them 306 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: in four But there was one one item, one one 307 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: fact that they didn't I was curious about, is how 308 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: many tons of batteries does this thing take? Well? And excellent, excellent. 309 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: Now it's an excellent point, Peter. And you have to 310 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: think how much bigger does the battery have to get? 311 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: You know, look at it their print in the size 312 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: of the battery from a Tesla Model three. Until you 313 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: get to the semi trucks, right, look at the weight capacity, 314 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: look at look at how much bigger the vehicle is, 315 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: obviously because it's it's houlding more weight more load. It's 316 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: gonna have to. It just makes sense that the battery 317 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: has to be bigger. And and my conversation in my 318 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: head becomes, you know, what's the effective cost return on that? 319 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: And if the battery is bigger, is it harder to 320 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: put out? If it catches fire? And that's just that's 321 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: just you know, although it's a pepsi truck, I guess 322 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: you just uncapped the bottles and hopefully they put the 323 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: fire out before they run out of soda. Um, isn't 324 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: isn't pepsi. This isn't pepsi the drink that quenches or 325 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: is that something else? Um, that's gonna have a whole 326 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: new meaning to it. Uh, but yeah, it's listen. You 327 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: know again. Evs have their place, all right. I just 328 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: don't think they have the mass production place that they're 329 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: trying to explain to us. I was watching the news 330 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: this morning. UM CBS news out of New York was 331 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: talking about they were talking to General Motors and General 332 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: Motors is is talking about e v s and uh, 333 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: you know how they're gonna be profitable. And now GM 334 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: and Ford are gonna outreach Tesla by by you know, 335 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: by five and they're gonna outproduce them, and you know, 336 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: they've got you know, further reach, and the GM exec 337 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: Serano talking about how they're gonna make a profit on 338 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: these and how many cars are gonna be able to produce, 339 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: and how they're gonna be able to lower the price 340 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: they're gonna bring down the price of vehicles. If you're 341 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: listening to this show. A couple of weeks ago, we 342 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: talked to Mark Mills and Mark points. Mark and I 343 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: were talking about the article that was recently published where 344 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: GM says they're gonna produce a million evs by and 345 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: they're going to break even in terms of production. But 346 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: if you read the meat and potatoes of the article, 347 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: the article points out how the government, the US government 348 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: is putting out subsidies to subsidize the e V vehicle 349 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: development and GM is going to keep those subsidies and 350 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: attribute it, you know, put it up against the debt 351 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: that the e V vehicle program is creating. So, you know, 352 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: and and that's what CBS News was alluding to this morning, 353 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: in the fact that oh, it's gonna be profitable. They 354 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: didn't they failed to leave out the part that the 355 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: manufacturers are keeping the subsidies in order to make the 356 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: market profit. Um, you know you can't keep producing something 357 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: at a loss. Well you can, but eventually you fold 358 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: and you know they're just it just doesn't make any sense. 359 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: As far as the PEPSI truck. You know, great if 360 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: it's if it's sustainable. But is it sustainable because let's 361 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: just say the size of the battery. Well, here, let's 362 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: attack it like this, right, a TESTLA three the battery 363 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: ways of thousand pounds. It's five thousand pounds of raw 364 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: material dug up by a bulldozer for two and a 365 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: half hours to build one one thousand pound battery. How 366 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: long is it going to have to work to build 367 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: the battery for the truck? And and where's the return 368 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: to remember I remember listening to one of your blocks 369 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: on podcasts because they're my reception up here is not 370 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 1: too good. But um, yeah, you were talking about how 371 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 1: much raw material and how much they need for each battery. 372 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 1: And here they're talking about making fifty thousand of these units. Right, 373 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: it's like a year from now. Let's producing that. Sit tight, Peter, 374 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: I want to come back and finish this. Don't go away. 375 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: Let's let's continue the conversation. I'm on any and the 376 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 1: car Doctor. We'll be back right after this. Welcome back 377 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: when I named the car Doctor. By the way, we 378 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 1: should point out either this hour or next hour, we're 379 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: doing a twenty five gift card for the folks at 380 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: Orillyota Parts. So decision of Tom of the judge. Tom 381 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 1: is final, so I'm not sure when he's gonna pull 382 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: the trigger, So just be aware. I mentioned at the 383 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 1: time when you call in today at eight five five 384 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: six zero. Let's get back to Peter and Quebec. Peter, 385 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: you're still there, sir, Yes, I am. So you know 386 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 1: Quebec is a is a big city in Canada. Correct, well, 387 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: Quebec is a province. I'm about where I am on 388 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: about ninety miles from Montreal. Weka, right, That's what I'm 389 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: thinking Montreal. Okay, So your area of your area of Quebec, 390 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: is it rural? Is it populated? Is it? You know 391 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: what's the and you know where I'm going with this 392 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: because I have I have a question about this now 393 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: you're here, How are they going to get you enough electricity? Yeah? 394 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: So how are they going to get you enough electricity? 395 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: Is an easy practical and where you are, well, I'll 396 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: tell you Quebec. Quebec of course leads. I think they 397 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: leave the world and we have the cheapest electricity in 398 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: the world. I'm pretty sure that's what the statistic is 399 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 1: because we have hydro electricity. So I think electric electric 400 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: vehicles here are I think are sustainable once they get 401 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: the infrastructure. But I mean we have the electricity. I 402 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 1: mean we sell it to uh all our neighboring states, 403 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 1: um um. As a matter of fact, they set a 404 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: record this year, UH for for the the amount of 405 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,479 Speaker 1: electricity they sold and the profit they make because of 406 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: our electric hydro electricity. So yeah, it is as a 407 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: matter of fact, in the little town that I'm near, 408 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: it's a very it's like a little town. They have 409 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: they have to to charging stations through little chargers. But 410 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: because it's like a tourist, right, you know, I guess 411 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: my question comes back to, you know, what would that 412 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: infrastructure look like and how many wires and cables and 413 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: poles and how will they get it to you? You know, 414 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: having cheap electricity is one thing. Being able to access 415 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: it as a whole another conversation. Yeah, that's what I 416 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: was wondering when I read about that one make a 417 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: charging liquid cooled, it has to be liquid cooled. So 418 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: that tells me. I'm not an electrical engineer, but that 419 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: tells me that must be a high rate of power 420 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 1: going in. So yeah, how do you get the power there? 421 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 1: What's the biggest gas station in your town right now? 422 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: How many? How many pumps do you think it has? 423 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: Yea too to really a two states, a two stays, 424 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: A two pump station is a big station in your town? Well, 425 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: it's the only station, Oh my god? And how many what? 426 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: What's what's the population? Five thousand, ten thousand? Oh no, no, no, no, 427 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: uh or something? Okay, So you know, you got to 428 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: kind of wonder, what's what's the cost per point to 429 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: bring e V to that part of the that part 430 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 1: of the world as well as the surrounding area. And 431 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: and this is part of the issue, right building out 432 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: the infrastructure. What's it going to cost? Um? You know, 433 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: it's it's it's it gets, it gets costly, just like 434 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 1: pepsi having e V vehicles and you know what are 435 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 1: those trucks gonna cost? I guess we have to watch 436 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: now to see if our favorite two lead bottle of 437 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: Pepsi is going to go up in price. Somebody's gonna 438 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: pay for it, and I don't think it's gonna be them. 439 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: During this event, they didn't make mention of the price. 440 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: What's the musk? Musk didn't make put mention of the 441 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: price of it. But oh yeah, it's a wonder. Well, 442 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 1: we know that we need ahead, and I'll let you 443 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 1: finish your point. I was I was gonna say, we 444 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: we know that the school buses that we're running in Alaska. 445 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: Last year, the state of Alaska bought a school bus. 446 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 1: And if a school bus was a hundred fifty dollars, 447 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: hundred eighty thousand dollars I think was the number from 448 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: the article. If I remember right, the electric school bus 449 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: was close to a half a million dollars. So you 450 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 1: know that was a school bus. I can imagine the 451 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 1: pepsi truck is somewhere on par with that. So we 452 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: can only imagine. You know, we've doubled the price of 453 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: the truck. That means somebody's got to pay for it, 454 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: either the government, the taxpayers, or the guy who's drinking 455 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,479 Speaker 1: the pepsi. So um, you know, I know, I know 456 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: our our government here in Quebec gives a subsidy for 457 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: if you buy If you buy an electric car, a 458 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: certain one has to be fully electric. It can't be 459 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 1: a hybrid. It has to be completely electric. And there's 460 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: a few other it's not it can't be used, it 461 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 1: has to be brand new. There's a bunch of conditions. 462 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: I guess you. You must have heard that our Canadian 463 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: airline Air Canada but put place in order for electric planes. Yeah, 464 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: not mad, Yeah I heard about that. But I can't 465 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: I can't see that as they can they can fly, right, 466 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 1: you know, I just I can't see that, not with 467 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: the reliability of it. You know, it's becoming a great 468 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 1: social experiment, it really is. Um There was a chilling 469 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,360 Speaker 1: comment by Musk a couple of months back and one 470 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: of his articles that he understands why the big three 471 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: want to jump into e V manufacturing because there's a 472 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: lot of money to be made. His words, not mine. 473 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: And you know, the more I look at this, I'm 474 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: gonna make a statement here and probably take flak fourth 475 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: But who cares, um is I don't think it's about 476 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: cleaning up the environment. I think evs are about making money, 477 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: because it sure doesn't make a lot of sense. So 478 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: and Uh, we'll leave it there, Peter. Thank you for 479 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: the call, sir. Go ahead, comment Peter. You had a 480 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 1: quick comment, quick quick, well it's just about reminded me 481 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: talking about making money to solar panels from a previous 482 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: president at US president. Yeah. Yeah, well we'll leave it there, 483 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: and you know, but but it is it is about 484 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: making money, right. I don't think it's about clean because 485 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: it was about environmental impact. We will be looking at 486 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 1: this differently. We'll say, you know what, Peter, to be continued. 487 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: We'll leave it there. I appreciate your comments, and I 488 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: appreciate you listening all the way up there from Canada. 489 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: Are a great neighbor to the north. You're very welcome, sir. 490 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: You'd be well, um, it's about making money. It's not 491 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: about clean air. It's not you know, it isn't it isn't. 492 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: So but in any event, let's uh, let's pull over, 493 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: take a pause real quick, and then we'll go to 494 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: Jerry and Washington State. When we come back zero running 495 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 1: any of the car, doctor, I'll be at your service 496 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: on my return. Don't go away. Welcome back the car 497 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: door at eight five zero zero. Give us a call, 498 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 1: leave a message. We're here for you. Saturday's Live on 499 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: the network two to four pm East Coast time. But 500 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: that zero phone number takes a message and the executive producer, 501 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: Chief Cocombottle Washer Thomas Ray the Third, we'll call you 502 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: back and uh get you in the qu for the 503 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: next live broadcast. Let's go over to Jerry Washington State. Jerry, 504 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: what's going on, babe? How can I help? At your service? Well, 505 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: I've got a Ford Bronco prio to a O D transmission. Hi, 506 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 1: my league, I've had I've had a few misses with 507 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 1: it on a poll on a good hill. So, as 508 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 1: the story goes, I can't get it started now. But 509 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: if I over rev did getting me in and out 510 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: one day as what was I and I shouldn't have 511 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: done that, I got it, but from then on it 512 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: dart ran very poorly. But I did go about ten 513 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: miles I got back home. The next day I fired 514 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: it up. I went about two miles. It's missing, but 515 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: halfway through that it started running perfectly good pole Um, 516 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: no missus anything parked in the driveway. Next day I 517 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: went out to start it and it fired for a millisecond. 518 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: And that's the last time. It's fired. I replaced a 519 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 1: lot of different things with known good parts. Like I 520 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: took parts off of my must Stang three st engine 521 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: and stuff and just started swapping him back and forth. Well, 522 00:26:55,760 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: I can't have no luck. I've checked for spark with 523 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: the spark tester. It does not have like a blue spark, 524 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: but it's got a good spark. And in the process 525 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: of that, I got ahold of the coil lead and 526 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: it hit me so hard to paralyze my arm. Now, Jerry, 527 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: did you say, Jerry, let me back up a second. 528 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: Did you say a Mustang? My ninety one Mustang? And 529 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: I swapped parts back and forth to the eighties six 530 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: And when I took I took parts off of the 531 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: eighties the Bronco, put them on the Mustang, started up 532 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 1: the Mustang. It's still run perfectly. What kind of doing 533 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: a process of elimination? What kind of parts did you swamp? 534 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: What kind of parts did you swamp? Okay, we t 535 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: f I module the I'm going through a list here. 536 00:27:55,400 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 1: The coil um I've got. Well, I did not swap 537 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: the distributor um, spark plug, leads um, the coil lead. 538 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 1: All right, let's do this, Okay, Jerry, let's do this. 539 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 1: You got a pencil and paper, I certainly do. Okay. 540 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 1: Let's let's let's go to basics, all right, and only 541 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: because I'm not there and I can't see the vehicle, 542 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go from square one. Al right. 543 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: You have a vault, own a voltmeter? Yes, all right? 544 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 1: Just just tell me what's good. Put the voltmeter across 545 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: the battery. We've got twelve and a half volts at 546 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: the battery, alright, at the league and right off the terminal, 547 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: all right, coming off the negative battery terminal. Somewhere coming 548 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: off the negative battery terminal, there's gonna be one or 549 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: two auxiliary grounds. Are they there? And are they clean 550 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: and tight? Yes? Okay. And then there's gonna be a 551 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a set can dary ground coming out 552 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: of an engine harness near the battery, alright, which is 553 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: PCM ground. Just make sure that wire isn't broken. That's yes, okay. 554 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: Now let's back up. Let me back up a little bit. 555 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: PCM ground. Okay. I checked through that. According to my 556 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: Haynes manual and the Internet. I think I have those 557 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: things right, okay, And I think you do too, it's 558 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: it's the fact that it fired, the fact that it 559 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: makes spark. But again, I'm gonna take you through basics. 560 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: Do you want a vacuum doon, a vacuum gauge? Of course, 561 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: if you do, if you do cranking vacuum. What do 562 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: you have cranking vacuum? I have not that down? All right, 563 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: we want to we want to see somewhere between three 564 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: and five inches of cranking vacuum. Making sure, making sure 565 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: we're at a manifold port. You know we're on the 566 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: back side of the throttled plate, not in front of it, right, Yes, 567 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: do you have a timing Let me check my let 568 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: me check my note here for a second. Do you 569 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: have Yes, I've checked. I've checked that off of pork 570 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: off of the intake manifest. Okay, do you have a 571 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: timing light? Jerry? Yes? All right? Heok a timing light 572 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:19,959 Speaker 1: up to number one, yes, and crank it? Yes, all right? 573 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: What is the timing read at the balancer? Does it 574 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: read ten degrees? I said it, yes, I said it 575 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: at twelve. Well, it doesn't matter. But do you read it? 576 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: Do you see that flash? Can you well? Can you 577 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: can you read timing at the balancer? While cranking the engine. Yes, sir, okay, 578 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: so it's got it's got enough spark to drive a 579 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: timing light. It will fire the truck, all right. That's 580 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: that's that's my point. What I'm what I'm. The other 581 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: thing I want to think about is do you own 582 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: a scan tool? Yeah, but it's old d D one. 583 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: My scan do a little, doesn't do one. So we've 584 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: taken the uh the reading off of the flashes gives 585 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: me some fliches and I look that up on the chart. Okay, 586 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: what i'd what I'd like to know is you know, 587 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: if you had a scan tool, if we had a way, 588 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: I guess we could do it by voltmeter UM. I 589 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: would like to compare the intake air temp sensor and 590 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: the cool intemp censor to see if they read within 591 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: ten degrees of each other on a cold engine. That's 592 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: I might not down. That's interesting, No, because the only 593 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: um indication off of the scan I guess you will 594 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: call that. I mean with the blinking lights I got 595 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: was low coolant and I added cooling to bring it 596 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: up to did you have a code? Odd dang right, 597 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: I'll write that down. I sixty seven last question and 598 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: then I'm gonna let you go because you've got some 599 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: homework to do, and then we'll talk next week. You 600 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: know where the map sensor is, right, Okay? The map 601 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: sensor's got a signal wire on it. I believe it's 602 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: red with a green stripe, or it's green. I think 603 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: it's green with a red stripe. The red stripe with 604 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: signal return, you're gonna have a power, You're gonna have 605 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: a ground. You're gonna have a signal return. Key on 606 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: engine off. Okay, um, keyon engine off. At sea level, 607 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: if you had to, if you have a digital vault domemeter, 608 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: that signal line will read between a hundred and fifty 609 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: three and a hundred and fifty nine hurts. Alright, alright, 610 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: what does yours read? And then compensate accordingly for sea level. 611 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: You can go to the US National Weather Service site 612 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: and look at you know, barometric pressure readings and then 613 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: correspond to where you are in relation to sea level. 614 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: At sea level, the map sensor on that Ford product, 615 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: the barometric center in the map sensor were one and 616 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: the same. It'll read a hundred fifty three hundred fifty 617 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: nine hurts. You could have it. You could have a 618 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: map sensor issue. Take the red there's a red ported 619 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: vacuum line. There's a red striped vacuum line coming off 620 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: that map sensor. Unplug it. Look inside the vacuum line, 621 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: Look inside the nipple that the line came off of. 622 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: Do you see any gelatinous material? Kind of like Mom's 623 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: chicken soup, right, Mom always had chicken fat coming out 624 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: of the pot. Is there any is there any? Is 625 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: there any gelatinous material coming out of it? That was 626 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: the baco light inside the map sensor that broke up 627 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: when they got real old. And this one's old, baby 628 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: that this one's old. If if if, if it's broken 629 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: up and it's starting to clog the hose or the port, 630 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: it's gonna do just what you're describing. Do those things. Obviously, 631 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: check fuel pressure, make sure fuel pressure is good. Provide 632 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: an alternate fuel source, maybe with a bottle of propane, 633 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: and um see what that does for you. And stay 634 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: on the line. We're gonna be sending you out the 635 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: Orelioto Parts gift card courtesy the folks over at O 636 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: Realioto Parts, good at any Orealiota Parts or Orialioto dot Com. 637 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: Let Tom get your information and we'll try and help 638 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: you out here because it sounds like you're gonna need 639 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 1: some parts at some point in the game. But give 640 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: us a call back, Jerry, let us know what else 641 00:33:58,320 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: we can do for you. I'm ronan any in. The 642 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: hard Doctor will return right after this. Welcome back Rannie 643 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: and the car doctor from Kathy who writes in from Virginia. Hey, Ron, 644 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: I was listening to the caller from Quebec that stated 645 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: about the Pepsi trucks and the batteries, and her question 646 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: and comment is I wonder how that's going to affect 647 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: the waiter. How does she write the weight of the 648 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: trucks and the effect of the weight of the trucks 649 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,320 Speaker 1: on when they cross bridges and go through tunnels. You know, 650 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: I never thought of that. That's um, that's interesting, right. 651 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: If the battery is that much bigger to move the 652 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: bigger truck, then it's a heavier gross weight. It's got 653 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 1: to have an effect on the roadways and bridges and everything. 654 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: You'll have to compensate for that. So, yeah, Kathy, thank 655 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: you keeping coming. So let's do this one. Ron picked 656 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 1: up this transit to fifty brand new in June of one. 657 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: It's my work truck. I do all the service work myself. 658 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 1: Do you know cap states five thirty the owners Manuel 659 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: says zero twenty or five twenty. I've been using five 660 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: thirty all along. I'm not sure what's going on over 661 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 1: for it. I wanted to share that with you from Dave. 662 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: You know what, Dave, I would verify that through an 663 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: information system such as all Data is to verify you're 664 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: using the right oil. It sounds like it's got the 665 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: wrong oil cap on it, and you might be doing 666 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 1: damage doing what you're doing, So get it verified. Until 667 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: the next time I'm running eating in the car doctor 668 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: reminding you good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you