1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Chris Mannox he's a senior writer covering the 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 1: NBA for Sports Illustrated, joining us on the program. NBA 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: shut down a year ago on this day. What do 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: you remember about that? I remember being relieved from minute 6 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 1: because I had been scheduled to do back to back 7 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: Celtics games for local TV there. I just finished writing 8 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: a story. I was exhausted, and I remember thinking like, great, 9 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: you know this will be like a week, a couple 10 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: of days off. I can get back into the flow 11 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: after kind of a mini vacation. Didn't turn out that way. Yeah, 12 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: when it first happened, and I remember Paulie text me, 13 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: he said turn on ESPN. And I turned on ESPN. 14 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: And it wasn't like eleven o'clock at night to watch 15 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 1: Sports Center. It was eight o'clock and you're going, wait 16 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: a minute, what's going on on ESPN? Oh, they got 17 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: a basketball game. No, they're supposed to have a basketball game. 18 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, it was basically Oklahoma City. 19 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 1: Drive home safely, and then you realized, Okay, what's this mean? 20 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,839 Speaker 1: And who would have thought? You know that Sacramento later 21 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: on they had to tell that. You know, it's like, hey, 22 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: there's contact tracing with these officials, and I mean, it's 23 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 1: pretty incredible what happened, what happened quickly with the NBA, 24 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: and then everybody else sort of followed suit. Yeah, it 25 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: was when you look back on it now, it was remarkable. 26 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,839 Speaker 1: I remember I think it was the Hawks game that 27 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: turned out to be Vince Carter's last game of his 28 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: career there, and I remember kind of wondering, like, you know, 29 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: what are you guys doing, Why are you even finishing 30 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: this game? I mean, like you know, the whole referee 31 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: thing you were talking about. You just wondered why everybody 32 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: didn't just stop short right there and ended. But I 33 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: think that goes to show that back then, nobody believed 34 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: that this was going to have the kind of impact 35 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: on the season that it had. I remember talking to 36 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: coaches executives in the days that followed. All of them 37 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: had said, look, it's probably gonna be about a week 38 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: for this thing to settle down, then we'll come back 39 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: in empty arenas. There was an acceptance that they'd be 40 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: back in limited to no capacity at arenas, but no 41 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: comprehension that this could wind up shutting the league down 42 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: until they could go into a bubble. And remember Lebron 43 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: said that he's not playing if there's no fans in 44 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: the stands, and that was I was in LA for that, 45 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: and somebody asked that he was kind of walked into 46 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: that a little bit where yeah, he was. He didn't 47 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: know about all the things that were going on in 48 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: that moment. When the NBA said that he's you know, 49 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 1: of course he responds, you know, I'm not playing without fans. 50 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: I played for the fans. Well, that obviously changed very quickly, 51 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: as as the reality of the situation kind of set in. 52 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: You know, you look back on the bubble and we 53 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: didn't know it was going to work, and you know, 54 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: you had some players who were adversely affected by it. 55 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: But I still maintain what Lebron and the Lakers pulled 56 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: off is as memorable and as difficult as any team 57 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: has gone through with no home court advantage, there a 58 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: sterile environment. Have we given the Lakers enough credit for 59 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: what they pulled off in winning that championship? I think 60 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: we have. I'm kind of a tough person to talk 61 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 1: to about the challenges of the bubble den because sitting 62 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: in a hotel room eating buffalo wings is not all 63 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: that I'm normal for my day to day life. So 64 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 1: it's it really is like I kind of say that, 65 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I sympathize with people that have families and 66 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: are away from them. That's just not me. And so 67 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: you like tell me that I can get wings twenty 68 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: four hours a day like I'm and there's a never 69 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: ending supply of pandy in the mess hall like I don't. 70 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: I don't really do all that, but you could see it. 71 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: I mean, when you're in that bubble, and I was 72 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: in it for two plus months, you can see the 73 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: mental wear and tear it takes on players real time. 74 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: From the first week where everybody's kind of like, all right, 75 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: we can do this, we can hang by the pool, 76 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: no big deal to like the second month, when you 77 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: see these guys walking to the dining hall, just trudging 78 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: heads down, not a lot of conversation amongst each other, 79 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: sitting down, getting through a meal, and then going back 80 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: to the room. It obviously had an enormous mental toll 81 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: taken on these guys. So I don't know where you 82 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: rank it among the most difficult things the NBA team 83 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: has done to win a championship. But it's up there 84 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: to be able to go three plus months and win 85 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: a title. Chris Mannox, the Sports Illustrated senior NBA rider 86 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: joining US, I saw an article a column and it 87 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: had to do with ESPN speaking to some several prominent 88 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: figures around the NBA and that there was a radical 89 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: proposal that maybe you could limit the number of threes 90 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: you attempt in a game. Let's say it was first 91 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: half you got to attempt twenty, second half twenty, and 92 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: then after that everything counts as two until the final 93 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: six minutes of the game. Are we getting to the 94 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: point is it too much of a good thing that 95 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: what the three pointer means to the NBA? Right now? 96 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: We're not getting to that point. You can't put the 97 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: genie back in the bottle. And this is what the 98 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: NBA wanted twenty plus years ago, when the ratings were 99 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: starting to dip the physicality of the game was causing 100 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: too many low scoring games. You remember that time, Dan, 101 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: you know, David Stern and NBA brass. I mean, they 102 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: wanted what we're seeing right now, a free flowing game, 103 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: a lot of three point shots. Maybe they didn't want 104 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 1: it at the level that we're seeing where teams are 105 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: just reflexively shooting thirty five forty three points per games, 106 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: sometimes more. But this is the tradeoff. This is what 107 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: you get. The idea that they're going to limit three 108 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: point winners in a game is just It's as likely 109 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: as them ultimately instituting the four point shot, which was 110 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: kind of a running joke, you know, ten or fifteen 111 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: years ago. This You're you're gonna have to deal with 112 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: the fallow up because this has helped grow the game. 113 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: I mean, think about the most popular players in the game, 114 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: the most emulated players in the game. It begins with 115 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: Steph Curry and it goes down to all these three 116 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: point shooters that have helped make the game as popular 117 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: as it is today. It just it just is what 118 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: it is. Dan, You're you're not going to be able 119 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: to change what the NBA has become. But is there 120 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: a really good team who doesn't rely on the three 121 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: pointer as much as everybody else does? I mean, there 122 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: are teams that do it at a supersized level. I 123 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: don't have the numbers in front of me on which 124 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: team ranks towards the bottom, but every team is gonna 125 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: jack them up at a high level, especially in the 126 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: fourth quarter. I mean, look, dan coaches in the NBA, 127 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: every coach, this is what they teach. The best shots 128 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: are layups, dunks, and three pointers. The way that Michael 129 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: Jordan and Kobe Bryant played the game. Every coach would 130 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: try to dissuade them of that. Nowadays, they don't want 131 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: mid range jumpers, they don't want turnaround post shots because 132 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: they have been deemed inefficient. Layups, free throws, threes. That 133 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: is all every coach wants from their team. You know, 134 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: you might see some numbers dip here and there from 135 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: one team to another, but by and large that's the philosophy. Well, 136 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: I got Utah's the number one three point shooting team 137 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: in the NBA. The Sixers are the lowest. The Lakers 138 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: are in the bottom five as well. Now, I don't 139 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: know if that changes when we get to the postseason 140 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: or later in the season. But you know, do you 141 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: have to be jacking them up? And are you all 142 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: in on Utah being a team to beat or you know, 143 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: one of the teams to beat. I don't think you 144 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: have to be jacking them up to be a championship team, 145 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: especially when you're talking about the Lakers and Sixers, who 146 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: are both can be elite defensive teams with the personnel 147 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: that they have. So if you can be great on 148 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: that end, you're fine. I am buying the Jazz as 149 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: a serious threat TWITTER Championship because I was going through 150 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: this over the All Star break. There's really nothing the 151 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: Jazz do that you look at and say that's not sustainable. 152 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: You've got Mitchell playing at a high level, which is 153 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: a natural progression of his game. Mike Conley was not 154 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: great last year, but this is the Mike Conley Dan 155 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: that we've seen for most of his career, the guy 156 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: that we saw playing so well in Memphis. Go There, 157 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: to me is a sneaky MVP candidate. I mean, he 158 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: has become such a presence offensively with his screen setting 159 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: that he's a real impact player on that end of 160 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: the floor without shooting the three. They've been an elite 161 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: defensive team during Quinn Snyder's time there. Certainly, when you 162 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: get into the playoffs, I want to see if Mitchell 163 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: can make plays, if Conley can make plays end of 164 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: game situations. But right now, like the only question you 165 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: have is can like Jordan Clarkson continue to be the 166 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: sixth Man of the Year type of player, or does 167 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: he revert to being an inconsistent gunner. Other than that, 168 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sold on what the Jazz are. Yeah, but 169 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: I can't give Rudy Gobert or MVP credit if he 170 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: sets nice screens. Chris, of course you can't. No, I can't. 171 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: Why can you imagine that? Where you're going, what did 172 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: he do so well? Man? Can he? Okay? Okay, now 173 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: now you're now you're twisting words here, like it's not 174 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: it's not. He's just this great screen center. He's also 175 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: the most intimiding defensive presence the league has. Scenes it's 176 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: a tumbo, so like that's a big factor in all this. 177 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: But offensively, you ask those Jazz players and I've done this, 178 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: like you know, what's what's Gobert's influence? And he just 179 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: sets some bone crushing screens that freeze up these guys 180 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: as an impact. Okay, never gonna be a three point shooter, Dan, 181 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: that's obvious, but if he can be a massive screen center, 182 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: that'll impact the offense. The Lakers can't win a title 183 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: without a Can the Nets win a title without KD No? Neither. 184 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: I don't think the Lakers, frankly can win a title 185 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 1: without Dennis Shrewder for that matter, but that's a conversation 186 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: for another time. And he's been that impactful for them. Look, 187 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: the Nets are going to test the theory if that 188 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: you need to be a top Tennish defensive team to 189 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: win a championship. They're not going to be that type 190 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: of team, no matter how many guys they sign off 191 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: the street in the next couple of weeks. But because 192 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: they're so dynamic offensively at full strength, because they've got 193 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: three guys which is almost unpressed, and three guys that 194 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: can take over a game in the fourth quarter, they 195 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: can get away with being a middle of the pack 196 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: or worse defensive team. But without Durance, without him being 197 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: completely healthy, there's too many good teams in the Eastern Conference. 198 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: I think that can knock them off. Great to talk 199 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: to you again, Chris. I hope you're well. I thought 200 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: you'd appreciate screen set like you know, kind of a 201 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: grinder in your day. I know, but I just I mean, 202 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: it's it's nice. I mean I didn't set screens. I 203 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: was a shooter, so right, but you went around them, right, 204 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: so you knew the value of a screen. Yeah, but 205 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: you know it wasn't you know one of those things 206 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 1: where I said, gosh, you know that guy, he's more 207 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: valuable than I am. It didn't matter if they were 208 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: setting screens or not for me. I mean they Okay, 209 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: next time you have Reggie miller on, ask him that question. 210 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: He didn't need screens. He just ran all day. Well, 211 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: you don't just run without getting a screen set for you. 212 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: That's crazy. The reasons and you're running is you're kind 213 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: of trying to rub guys off screens. And Reggie had, 214 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: by the way, two of the better ones in the 215 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: Davis twins Antonio and Dale, who just set rocking states. 216 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: They weren't twins. I know it's they were called that though. 217 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: That's I know there weren't twins. I just think you 218 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: hate the French. I don't. I don't hate the French. 219 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:09,599 Speaker 1: I love Tony Parker, just him, Yes, yes, Rudy and 220 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 1: the Gobears I love. I love Rudy. Got it. I'm 221 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: going to tune into the next Jazz game just to 222 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: watch him said screens. I'm telling you must see TV. 223 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: I know, I know. Thank you, Chris, you got it, 224 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: Dim Chris Mannox Sports illustrated senior basketball writer and a 225 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: man who loves a good screen. Thanks for listening to 226 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us 227 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: live every weekday morning nine to noon Eastern or six 228 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 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Do yourself a favor and 239 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: listen to Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre on the iHeartRadio app, 240 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We bring 241 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: in Doug Gottlieb, host of The Doug Gottlieb Show on 242 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Fox Sports College basketball analyst. Doug joining 243 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: us from Indianapolis as he's doing the Big Ten Tournament 244 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: on Compass Radio, recapping what we just heard Duke. Right now, 245 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: that game against Florida State is not going to be 246 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: played because somebody on the staff team has tested positive 247 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: for COVID. We don't know that, but it feels like 248 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: Duke's season is probably over. I'm wondering about the rest 249 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: of the ACC tournament here, Doug. What's going to happen here? 250 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean that you have to obviously 251 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: have contingency plans because you know you have contact tracing, 252 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: and then you know what happens with anyone else who 253 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 1: came in contact with But what what you asked the question, 254 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: are they done done? I was just texting with Jeff 255 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: and the logic is it's again, it's not contact tracing, 256 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: it's somebody has a positive test, right, So that means 257 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: then there's there's a there's a quarantining and I'm an 258 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: indie where they moved all the Big ten teams here 259 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: and then the Big ten teams that advanced the tournament 260 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: are going to stay here for up to a month, 261 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: and of course they have the extra the tournament's going 262 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: to start a day later, you know. Again, so that 263 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: there's a little extra quarantining, and it's it becomes a bubble. 264 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: But I mean, this is this is part of the issue. 265 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: I guess my question is this. I understand that first 266 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: responders and senior citizens need to get the vaccine. Why 267 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: are we not vacstaining players. I don't somebody explain that 268 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: to me. I know that Adams over came out and said, 269 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: we're not going to make our players get vaccinated. Talk 270 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: to NBA coaches, NBA players. They are generally getting vaccinated, 271 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: you know, without without broadcasting it. And just I don't 272 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: understand why we're going we should go to all these leaps. 273 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: But here's something that people don't know. So I did 274 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: the SOCN Conference two days ago, three days ago, and 275 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: then the CIA. The team that loses still has to 276 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: test for five days their season normally done, like Mercer. 277 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: Mercer lost to UNC Greensboro, they have to test for 278 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: five days because if Greensboro has positive tests, greens UNC 279 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: Greensboro doesn't go, Mercer does go. If they don't have 280 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: positive tests. It's it's a it's just a wacky year. 281 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: And obviously we're on the one year anniversary of sports 282 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: shutting down and here Duke is the biggest program in 283 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: college basketball losing any chance of a postseason because of 284 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: one positive test. Did they need that win over Florida 285 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: State to get into the tournament? Yes, yes, I mean, look, 286 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: Louisville helped, but you know they had an initial bump 287 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: there late in the season, but it wasn't enough. You know, 288 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: They're just they had sustained too many losses and people 289 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: have to understand that the ACC is really down this year. 290 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: And I mean, like, look, it's really hard to tell 291 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: a lot of things like Louisville. For example, they played 292 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: Wisconsin this year with I think six or seven guys, 293 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: but they didn't have four starters, so they lost by 294 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: fifty to Wisconsin. This is around Christmas time. It's hard 295 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: to tell sometimes results of who actually is good. And 296 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: then some of these teams have come out of two 297 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: three weeks scoring team and they play a game and 298 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: they're not really representative of That's why I mean I 299 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: wanted to get I wanted to come on and say like, hey, 300 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: there's a couple of teams out there like Oregon people 301 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: should bet on because they're gonna be massively underseated because 302 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: of all the litany of things that went on in 303 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: their season. But this obviously Trump's that. How did Duke 304 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: get here in the first place? Dog, It feels like 305 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: they had a top five recruiting class. Don't they have 306 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: a top five recruiting class every year. Well, you have 307 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: to understand it. It's it's different. There's a couple of 308 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: things that went against them. Okay, First, Um, you have, 309 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: you know, the top three freshmen in the country, right, Um, 310 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: sugs goes to jail, and Suggs goes to Gonzaga, and 311 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: then Kay Cunningham instead of going to North Carolina or Kentucky, 312 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: he goes to Oklahoma State. And then you know, you 313 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 1: USC has Evan Mowbley, his dad's on staff, and he 314 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: goes to USC. So you cut out three of the 315 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: top five top ten. Then you cut out three or 316 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: four more who we're going to go to college or 317 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: maybe Jalen Green for example, and they go to the 318 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: G League ignite. So you basically cut out the top 319 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 1: ten from Kentucky and from Duke. Then you factor in 320 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: you know, you lose your point guard. You know, you 321 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 1: lose your you know, they they're not taking the depth 322 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: of transfers that other people are taking. Um, and they're 323 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: just you. You don't replace. It's really hard when you 324 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: can't replace stars with other stars, and now of a sudden, 325 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 1: you're at the same place as everybody else. And then 326 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 1: you throw in the quarantining and some of the stuff, 327 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: and they're not alone. This is Kentucky. Same thing they've made. 328 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: Some of them made some bad choices in terms of 329 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 1: who they've taken. But I think this is a big 330 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: story in college basketball and that the blue bloods who 331 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: normally feast on those top ten, top fifteen guys, now 332 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: they're recruiting fifteen to twenty five or fifteen to fifty. 333 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: And those are good players, but they're not the type 334 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 1: of impact players who come. You know, they're not Zion Williamson. 335 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: You know, they're not Kate Cunningham, they're not jail and Green. 336 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 1: They're not kids that can just carry you to an 337 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: NCAA tournament. They don't have those guys. And that's why 338 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: Kentucky's down. That's why Kansas is down, that's why Duke 339 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: is down. It's because the players, more than anything else. 340 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 1: These teams that won't make the NCAA tournament, can you 341 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: see them going to the n I. I mean I 342 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 1: would mean more basketball, right, Like all these guys say, like, well, 343 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: I'm a you know, you go you go to their 344 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: ig page and their ball is life. Guys, all they 345 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: want to do is hoop, But the reality is probably not. 346 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: Remember the last time Kentucky went to the I t 347 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: was an abject disaster. You know. It's like when an 348 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: SEC school gets left out of the college football playoff 349 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: and they just no show in a bowl game and 350 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: some guys, you know, opt out. I would guess no, 351 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: I wou guess it's a And for people who don't know, 352 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 1: it's at North Texas at the super Pit, they're gonna 353 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: have sixteen teams in a bubble. It'd actually be pretty cool, um, 354 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: but I would guess no, they were not, he Stug Gottlieb, 355 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 1: host of The Deck Doug Gottlieb show on Fox Sports 356 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: Radio and of course covering the Big Ten tournament. There. 357 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: How many teams get in from the Big Ten, all 358 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: of them? Let's just put them all every everyone. Oh, 359 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: I tell you, we gotta put them ball. Not Indiana, 360 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 1: Let's put Penn stated, oh, Maryland and India. I don't 361 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: know what you do, Dan, I mean there's some Indiana's 362 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: bad man. They've they've lost a lot of games. Like 363 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 1: I don't know how you it's it's just weird though, 364 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: because you have I was finished strong. Obviously Michigan won 365 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: the league. But again Michigan because of shutdown, they didn't 366 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: play at Illinois, they played Illinois once, didn't have their 367 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: best player, and they got house by Illinois. But you 368 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 1: got this group Minnesota. I don't think they're getting in there, 369 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: you know, even though they won last night, but they 370 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: didn't win a road game all year. But they crushed 371 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: Michigan when they played him at their place. There's this list. 372 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: I you know, my guests would be somewhere around seven, 373 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: and just throw them in a hat. And once you 374 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: get once you get past the big boys. I think 375 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: Michigan State's getting in I think rightfully so. And I 376 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: do think the win over Duke way back went helps, 377 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: and then of course beating Michigan here last game of 378 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: the regular season helps. The ACC is the question to me, 379 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: and I know I live West Coast and I'm by 380 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: the way. Thank you to let me feel in for you, 381 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: even though I know everybody complains that I sucked comparison 382 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: to you, but I get a chance to see the 383 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 1: West Coast schools, and the Mountain West has a couple 384 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: of teams that are really good, like Utah State and 385 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: Boise that they by masstination, belong in. But what do 386 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 1: I know about basketball and played it, covered it for 387 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: like twenty years, So I think it's gonna be interesting 388 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: because there is there's always been a slight East Coast bias, 389 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: but I've never been one of these East Coast bias guys. 390 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: But because the West Coast schools have gone through such 391 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: a difficult season, was shutting down and not having their 392 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 1: guys and not being able to practice. And I mean 393 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: Stanford played like four home games all year. I know 394 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: they got blown out last night by Cow They're terrible, 395 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: but the point is it was much harder to get 396 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: the team to look right in the West Coast. And 397 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: I do think that there's a little bit of better 398 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: for the doubt that should go to a couple of 399 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: those schools. How much wiggle room does John Caliperry have 400 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: at Kentucky like I see on the hob Seed or 401 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:42,479 Speaker 1: a warm seat. No, But but I do think like 402 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: college basketball is a change in here, right, Like you're 403 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 1: gonna have to be more creative in recruiting. You know, 404 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: you take some guys recently taken players that have transferred 405 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: up right, that's when you're in a low mid major 406 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: mid major. Some have hit, some have missed. They're gonna 407 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: start have to be creative in terms of and they're 408 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: gonna have to do better player evaluations. But you know, 409 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: like they took here's a perfe example, they took Devin 410 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 1: Ask you, who's from Modern Day High School in southern California. 411 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: He could have been a high school senior this year. 412 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: So um, and obviously he's had a disappointing season. But 413 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: so they have to do a better job of valuating 414 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: a point guard position, better job valued players. But I 415 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 1: also think that you're playing against older kids. I mean, 416 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: the reason the Big ten schools are better is they 417 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: have the highest recipitous rate. You know, they have older dudes. 418 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: They're back. So Wisconsin has two guys starting and they're 419 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: starting lineup it's twenty four years old. Like a twenty 420 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: four year old's gonna better than an eighteen nineteen year olds. 421 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: Just kind of kind of facts. So I think some 422 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 1: of it is the changing landscape of college basketball. How 423 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: how hot is this hot seat. I don't think he 424 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: could have another season like this one. This was a 425 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: this is a bad year. It's a bad year. And 426 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: next year if he had another one of these, they 427 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: would be like, hey, what are we doing here? Do 428 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: you want to rethink things? But you know, he lost 429 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: his recruiter to the NBA, and maybe maybe everybody knew 430 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: what was coming, and this is what was coming because 431 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: it is not good and the G league selecting is 432 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: going to continue to take five or ten kids, and 433 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 1: you know, more and more schools are going to hire 434 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 1: parents or siblings or whatever, and the trends are here. 435 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: You got to find a way to get old and 436 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: stay old if you want to win in college basketball. 437 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: Are we making enough of Gunzaga's undefeated regular season going 438 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: undefeated to the tournament? Should we be making more of it? 439 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, Kentucky finished undefeated a couple 440 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: of years ago, so it has Wichita State undefeated a 441 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: couple of years ago. And there's the kind of the pair. 442 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: The difference in Gonzaga and Wichita State is they played 443 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: some of the big boys. They didn't play bayle Or 444 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: like they're supposed to, but they played some of the 445 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: big boys school in the year, and I mean, they 446 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: were so much better than Kansas, it was it was silly. 447 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: And they have like three or four NBA players and 448 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: a couple do they only played like six or seven. 449 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 1: They are really really good. Like I've been kind of 450 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: playing with Twitter all year with the Gonzaga or the field, 451 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: and I think Baylor's close, and I think, you know, 452 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: Michigan and no one are close, but they're I mean, 453 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw the other night they 454 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: played by La BYU put up fifty three, couldn't played 455 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: better than the first half, and and you know Gonzaga 456 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 1: just down shifted in jail and Suggs just took over late. 457 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: They're they're good, they're competitive, they have bigs. They're not 458 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: great defensively, but they have two point guards kid named 459 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 1: Andrew Nemhar who's from Canada. Plus start at Florida for 460 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: two years. They're playing two point guards. So athletic ball 461 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: handling is not a problem. Shooting's not a problem. They've 462 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: been to a National Champion game before, like people think 463 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: Gonzaga took They're the only school to be in the 464 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: last five steet sixteens Gonzaga's legit. I don't think we're 465 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: making a big enough deal of it because we do 466 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: have a tendency to think of Gonzaga's you know, Adam 467 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: Morrison crying in the loss to UCLA more so than 468 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 1: we remember. They're one possession away from winning the national 469 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: champiship a couple of years ago. They're the real deal, 470 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 1: And no we're not because they play in the WCC. 471 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: But what's weird about it is you and I are 472 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: enough to remember thirty years ago, un LV was in 473 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: a far weaker league in the It was the PC, 474 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: DOUAA was the Big West then I can't remember right, 475 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: and nobody said anything about their league. Memphis was in 476 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 1: Conference USA. Nobody said, we said a little bit about 477 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 1: their league was more about free throw shooting. They were 478 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: dominant in lesser leagues and people didn't make didn't diminish 479 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: their record because of their league. We do that a 480 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: gig about Gonzagen. I'm not really sure. Why good to 481 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: talk to you? There have fun? Play nice uh in Indianapolis, tunk? 482 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 1: Why do you only want to see one video of 483 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: my son's wet jump shot? I just, oh my god, 484 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: I can't fix my jump shot. I could fix my 485 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: son's jump shop, Doug. I Doug sent me a video. 486 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: He said, oh, I heard your rant on Steph Curry. 487 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: So he sends me a video of his son in 488 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: a he's eleven years old, playing a pickup game or 489 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 1: some game there. And I didn't know it was your 490 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: son because he made the three. That's what I thought 491 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: was that. That kind of surprised me a little bit. 492 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: And then Doug wants to send me another video, and 493 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: I go one video per day, Doug good con Maybe 494 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm trying. I'm tired of the guy, but 495 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: he does it. You're you're right. I mean, like the 496 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: Steph Curry range thing is a real thing, and uh 497 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: it's it's changed the way in coaching kids. You look 498 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 1: at what's a good shot, what's a bad shot, And 499 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: we were always taught like that's the thing about you're 500 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: talking about Larry Bird. I disagree with you, Like Bro 501 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: Maggie Johnson. You forget how good he was back in 502 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: dudes down like old school one on one ball, like 503 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 1: back and down. Obviously the guys are more athletic now 504 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: because of the training that would be in their primes, 505 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 1: a much more competitive game than you're you forget how 506 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 1: good Larry Bird? You don't get it was right? Oh Now, 507 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: I'm just saying Lebron and KD can do what they 508 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: want to do on the floor. Magic's brilliance is still 509 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: seeing the floor, not necessarily being a great score. Yeah, 510 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: but hold on though, hold on though the baby sky. 511 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: Oh got it, I got it, I got it. But 512 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: they you know, Larry couldn't guard me, So now you're 513 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: gonna guarding he's in KD. I mean, come on, that's 514 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 1: not fair. If you said, Michael and Larry, now we 515 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: have a conversation, Doug, Magic and Larry. No, Now I 516 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 1: take Katie and Lebron. I think Look, I think they're 517 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: new and improved versions of each other, but I do 518 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: like the one. The point to me that I was 519 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: trying to make is is that we just people. I 520 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 1: Chris Mullen told me this, Like they used to discourage 521 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 1: people from shooting three point hut. Somebody couldn't shoot it, right, 522 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: I mean, Larry Bird, the volume of threes weren't there. 523 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: As you remember, he won the three point shooting contest 524 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: without taking off the warm up. Jack walked into locker 525 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: and said, who's getting second shot. The last one had 526 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: the one finger in the air, walked off the court right, 527 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: so he could There was a lot of things that 528 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 1: he could do that he wasn't encouraged due to the 529 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 1: way we encouraged them to do. Now because we've learned 530 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: how to work smarter and not hut it that clears 531 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: that up. Now, you can send me another video of 532 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: your son shooting today, one per day right now, Well, 533 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 1: let me go to break so I can get that. 534 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: Thank you, Doug. That's Doug Gottlieb. Thank for listening to 535 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us 536 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to 537 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 1: nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you can find 538 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us 539 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 1: live on the Peacock app. Mark few the gun Zaga 540 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: head coach and they're twenty six and oh they beat 541 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: BYU on Tuesday night to win the WCC title. Coach. 542 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: Good morning, how are you today all as well? Dan? 543 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 1: Good morning to you. Voice a little shaky, but other 544 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: than that, well that's that's your your mid season flans, 545 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: your coaching voice. Right, Yeah, you know what, it's weird. 546 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: It's always bad in November and then it kind of 547 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, talus is over and then man seems 548 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: I can march it it bites me again. So I 549 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: don't know how many times have you been tested this year? 550 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: I would say one hundred to one hundred and twenty 551 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: five or something like that would be my guest. Yeah, 552 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: my nostrils have had enough there they are ready to 553 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: go on strike. Have you been vaccinated? I have, actually yes? 554 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: And what about your team? No? No, because I don't know. 555 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: If you heard what happened with Duke. They had a 556 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: player tested positive and it looks like their season's over. 557 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: H I did here. I just heard that, and it's 558 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: it's uh gosh, that's what we all fear. And uh, 559 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: you know, the tough thing is and this is the 560 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: frustrating thing, dan is you know, we're all doing all 561 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: our protocols and sitting away from each other and space 562 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: and meetings and literally everything. We've been doing it all year, 563 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: and it's tough, especially when one player test positive that 564 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: the whole group goes out. I don't I don't know. 565 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: I don't know the particulars in that, and it's handled 566 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: differently in every county. UM and and in tournaments and 567 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: such a. But uh, yeah, that I mean, that's that's 568 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: our worst nightmare this year. I mean, that's you playing 569 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: in bed, just waiting to get the text from the 570 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: trainer that everybody's okay. Uh, you know passing our tests. 571 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: Will you use this as a cautionary tale to your 572 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: team today? No, We've been really really cautionary already, man, 573 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: I mean we are. I actually uh took them out 574 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: of their living arrangements, who are relatively pretty darn safe 575 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: by most standards, and we put them in a hotel 576 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: and uh prior to the WCC tournament. And when we 577 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: got back late Tuesday night, they were back in the 578 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: hotel and we got our our practice facilities shut down, 579 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: and uh, I mean we're already doing everything that we 580 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: possibly can. Um, does it feel like it's been a 581 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: year since we shut down the sport? Man and somebody 582 00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: that feels like five years? And then uh, um yeah, yeah, 583 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: I mean it feels like it's been at least a year. 584 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: Quite frankly, I mean it's it's been a it's been 585 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: a really really interesting, challenging um. But also uh uh, 586 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: I mean I couldn't have picked a better squad to 587 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: go through such a crazy year with their their enthusiasm 588 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: and their energy has been contagious all year. And the 589 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: way they just handle this, all the stuff that's going on, Uh, 590 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: they've handled it with a lot of grace. And I 591 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: think just collectively across the landscape of college basketball that 592 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: everybody has and just shows the just how bad everybody 593 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: wants to play and and you know how important sport 594 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: is that all of us and even to our country. Yeah, 595 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: don't use the word contagious, coach. That's not a yeah, 596 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: good call. Yeah, yeah, don't don't. Don't do that overwhelming 597 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: or something like that, but that that makes some people nervous. 598 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: Um is gun Zach is still a mid major when 599 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: it comes to basketball. Come on, you know the answer. 600 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: I know, But my job is to ask the question. Coach. 601 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: I'm not an intelligent guy like you. That's like a 602 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: cup Beat reporter would ask of that. So I hold 603 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: you in such higher a thing. Okay, coach, Yeah, you 604 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: answer this. Coming up on our straight number or fifth 605 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: straight number one seed, and I don't know, in the 606 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: last seven years or something where we went to five 607 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: straight sweet sixteens at least, you know, and I don't 608 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: know the name that he's done that in recent history. 609 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: That's at least or the men, the lead eight and 610 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: the national championship team. So uh, you know, I mean, 611 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: it speaks for itself. So I was kind of mocking 612 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: the mid major label with Gunzaga because that it didn't 613 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: translate as well as I thought it was going to coach, 614 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: and your sarcasm usually does you know, I'm a sarcastic guy. 615 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: That's why I love your sarcasm. Okay, so you guys 616 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: are you're you're not that plucky mid major anymore, not 617 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: cute and fuzzy, You're you're a dominating college basketball power. 618 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: Well I'll tell you this. Let's do this for the 619 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: next you know week, and then who knows what happens 620 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: after that. Let's treat us as a plucky little okay, 621 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: you know, the little Cinderella. And let's you know, expectations 622 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: will be low. And why I wondered about that, coach, 623 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: if we can keep the score close, it'll be it'll 624 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: be a win win for everybody, right, But be careful 625 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: what you ask for a lot of times coaches or 626 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: players will go nobody took us, you know seriously, or 627 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: you know, we didn't get any credit or any of 628 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: those things there as long as you know and your 629 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: kids know, hey, let's just play. If we, you know, 630 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: get recognition, great, If we don't. The final recognition is 631 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: when we win, we win the championship. But not everybody 632 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: subscribes to that though, Coach. A lot of people are like, oh, 633 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: you know, you didn't take us, you know, like that 634 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 1: for you didn't you took us for granted? Yeah, I 635 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 1: certainly after all the attention it's been on us actually 636 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: going all the way back to uh October, you know, 637 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: or even in the preseason stuff started coming out in 638 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: the summer. Uh. You know, you know what's really kind 639 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: of interesting. I don't know who's been able to stay 640 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: number one all the way from basically July till in 641 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 1: the march. You know, it's been a it's been a 642 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: quite a run. Uh that way with the squad and 643 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 1: again back to kind of what I said earlier, they're 644 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: just an amazing groups. It doesn't seem to be rattled 645 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: by anything, and they're they're having just a lot of 646 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,399 Speaker 1: fun playing together. And that might sound corny, but I'm 647 00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 1: just telling you it's real. And you know, the undefeated thing, 648 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: it was not even an issue at all. And I 649 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,919 Speaker 1: mean we finally addressed it after the game the other night, 650 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: just because I think it's important to understand. It's just 651 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: a heck of an accomplishment right and then, and they 652 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: feel good about it, but it's not something that they're 653 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: thinking about or dwelling on. And uh, you know, I 654 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: think they're just all of them have been you know 655 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: what you talked about earlier. You know, a portion of 656 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: my team missed out on this last year. You know, 657 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:29,839 Speaker 1: we were going into it as a number one seed 658 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: and get a host and Spokane, and so they're just 659 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: dying to get back and play in the NCAA tournament. 660 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: That the new guys that we have in the program 661 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 1: came to Gonzaga because they wanted to play in the 662 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: nca tournament and have a chance to win a championship. 663 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 1: And so they're all excited to just you know, get 664 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: back there and go for it. When you recruit, I 665 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: know Sugs is probably a one and done. Um, but 666 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 1: are you did you recruit him knowing he was a one? 667 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: And how often do you recruit somebody you think like 668 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: Collins was one and done? But are you do you 669 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: recruit the one and donners Or is it just if 670 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: they show up and they're better than what we think 671 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: or they get that recognition that then they become a 672 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: one and done. Yeah, I mean in vact case, he really, 673 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: I mean he just came on like gangbusterers, especially at 674 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: the end of the of the year, and you know, 675 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: played so well in the in the NCAA tournament that 676 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: it ended up, you know, being kind of a no 677 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 1: brainer type decision. Uh. Look, we we go out, we 678 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: recruit the guys that we think would be great at Gonzaga. 679 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 1: Um if that ends up being somebody that's going to 680 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 1: stay in school for one year or three years or 681 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: four years, uh, we we don't limit it. But I 682 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: mean we're pretty particular about who we recruit as far 683 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: as you know, what, what do they value? Do they 684 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 1: value you know, winning first and you know the Gonzaga 685 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 1: and the ant and and and their college career even 686 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 1: if it's a short one. Are they here to just 687 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: post numbers and get to the league. That doesn't really 688 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 1: work at our place. So in Jalen's cakes, I mean, 689 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: I just fell in love with his competitive spirit and 690 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 1: and just his feel for the game and how he 691 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 1: impacted the game everywhere, and then as we dove deeper 692 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 1: into it, I mean he he uh, it was so 693 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: into development. Really wanted to grow his game and get 694 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 1: his ball screen reads down and you know, grow on 695 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,959 Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball also. And so once 696 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 1: you met the family and all that is, it was 697 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 1: like it was a definitely all the characteristics and attributes 698 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: that we're looking for. I saw where you would give 699 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: a pep talk or where somebody a happy birthday. This 700 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 1: was on cameo, the cameo app. Yeah yeah, you saw that. 701 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:59,879 Speaker 1: Huh yeah, okay, I know, Yeah, I don't know. So wait, 702 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 1: so what do I get if I would you like 703 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,359 Speaker 1: me to do that for you or anything? Or yeah, 704 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 1: like if I pony up two hundred dollars on cameo? 705 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: Like what am I getting? And your voice? Your voice 706 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 1: is shot, Like I'm not even getting a true pep 707 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: talk there? No, I know, it's uh yeah, I don't know. 708 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 1: I don't do a whole lot of it. Haven't done 709 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 1: those for a while. We're trying to. I was trying 710 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,320 Speaker 1: to help the athletic department and raise some money since 711 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:30,359 Speaker 1: we're all of us athletic departments are down this year 712 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 1: with no fans and gains being impacted and things like that. 713 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's kind of a fun thing to do, 714 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 1: and some people seem to enjoy it. Well, I will 715 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 1: make sure that the country does not make that mistake 716 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 1: that you're you're not a mid major, you're a juggernaut, 717 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: you're dominating, You're on that you're on the same level 718 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 1: as Duke and North Carolina and Kentucky and all of 719 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:59,800 Speaker 1: those teams, although not this year better than yeah, we haven't. 720 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 1: We have not accomplished what those programs have over the 721 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: hundred years of the college basketball. But uh, oh, don't 722 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 1: down a great run. Yeah, come on, don't don't downplay it. 723 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: Let's go. You're the team to beat, You're you're calling 724 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:19,800 Speaker 1: out everybody. That's the way we got to go into this, coach, Well, 725 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: you know what, we're going into this savoring, uh, every 726 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,319 Speaker 1: moment we got and starting with the first one, and 727 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,280 Speaker 1: we're going to celebrate every moment we got, so you should. 728 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 1: Hopefully it's going to be an interesting ride though, Dan, 729 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,839 Speaker 1: I mean, it's this this uh whatever the hell we're 730 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 1: calling a controlled environment and India, there's going to be 731 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,839 Speaker 1: a lot more to how you handle that uh, as 732 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 1: as well as playing in the games, because that's going 733 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: to be a really really long slog in a hotel. Uh. 734 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 1: For any of these teams that you know, advance all 735 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 1: the way to the Final four into the National Championship, 736 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 1: Are you going to show your team hoosiers for you 737 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,879 Speaker 1: leave town. That's a great question. You know, we might 738 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 1: just do that today. I was kind of racking my 739 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 1: brain for something to do today. You know, you'll be weird. 740 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 1: Is how probably none of them have even seen it. 741 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 1: That just kind of ages you and I. I know 742 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 1: you know what I can do, coach, is I have 743 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 1: a basketball hoop here. I'd be willing to shoot some 744 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 1: hoops here and like, let your kids see something truly 745 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,760 Speaker 1: inspirational that even at my age, I'm still an elite shooter. 746 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 1: And if I can help you in any way leading 747 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 1: our Zags to the national title, if you want me 748 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 1: to give a peck talk since you can't do it 749 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 1: with your voice free of charge, no cameo. We know 750 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,319 Speaker 1: it's interesting you say that because I don't get that 751 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 1: same vibe from your production team there. They act like 752 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 1: you're not the number one rated prospect of the group 753 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,360 Speaker 1: on the hoop. Oh Wow. But you know what they do. 754 00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: They keep me humble and look what they say. I'm 755 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: not there every day. They keep me humble. Coach. That's 756 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 1: what they do, right, that's the job of you know, 757 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 1: great coach, great team, keep the star humble, absolutely absolutely so. 758 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,919 Speaker 1: And hungry, hungry and humble. Good luck coach. Always great 759 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 1: to talk to you, and congrats on the undefeated season 760 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 1: so far. You got it, Dan, Thank you coach. That's 761 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 1: Mark few don Zagah head coach. 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