WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Feeling A Draft? 0:00:02.800 --> 0:00:05.320 The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:13.920 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is mick Shot, 0:00:14.120 --> 0:00:18.120 screening live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:23.080 Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:29.360 and Nicky Spagnola, and it's time for another edition of 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:32.760 mix Shots inside the SWBC podcast studio Here at the 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:38.440 Beautiful Star in Fresco. We are now one week away 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:42.599 from Draft Day, the first round of the National Football 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:47.000 League Draft twenty twenty two. Everson Walls has all of 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:50.199 his draft research taking care of. He's got lots he 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:53.840 wants to spew out over the next Last week, I'm 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:57.680 just listening today, by the way, the introduction. Let's see, 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:01.480 we got it right this week? Right, you said what 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:04.600 I said? The music? Yeah, we didn't do yeah, come on, now, 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:07.600 we didn't do that last week? You got I felt 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:09.880 like I was naked last week. You know, we didn't 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:11.679 get I get the boom. I gotta do my shoot 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:13.240 the thing, and you know I didn't get through that. 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:16.760 Just go, just go, y'all went last week? That was crazy, 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:21.119 all right? And Mickey Spagnola has not one, not two, 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:26.200 but three legal pads filled with notes from the last 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:28.440 week that you watch the trash over the too. We 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:31.760 don't know what trash is over get all that trash, 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:36.400 and my three notebooks aren't. Just think that's big green 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:40.479 NFL draft scouting notebook. Yeah, but yours is neat. Yeah, well, 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:43.240 thank yous. That's right. That's what you're supposed to be 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:45.640 able to read it. Yeah and find it. You know 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:48.040 you have the stuff out up over there. Well, I 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:50.760 got a lot of stuff just in case I need 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:52.800 to research. You know, when you get a little older, 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:56.120 you start forgetting things you're supposed to research before you though, 0:01:57.760 --> 0:02:00.520 I've done some research as a matter of Look at 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:04.400 this page I spent yesterday morning of those cowboys are 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:08.240 drafting the ones in pink these are This is a 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:12.160 page of the free agent offensive linemen in the league, 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:15.120 and I went through to find out how many guys 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:18.480 have these, how many games of these guys started? What's 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:21.560 available out on the open market? Do you have to 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:27.360 take a guard in the first round? Can't take a guard? 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:30.480 That's right, you can't take a guard. So what are 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:32.920 the other options out there? If I mean, you can't 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:36.080 take any more than one position in the first round 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:38.359 unless you're going to trade your whole draft and get 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:40.480 up into the first round and you're only going to 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:43.360 take two players in the whole draft. H And so 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:45.480 I figure, you know what you need to see what 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:48.560 else is available out there, and these guys on this 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:52.720 sheet right here will probably well, there are there are 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:55.320 several guys on this sheet right here who are veteran 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:58.960 free agents who don't have jobs right now, who in 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:02.680 twenty twenty two would do a better job playing left 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:04.720 guard for you than a guy that even that you 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:07.639 draft in the first round perhaps, and especially if they 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:11.520 don't have a job. On May first, that's right after 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:15.200 the draft, and everybody's bringing in their guys and they're 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:18.160 all excited about him. And if you don't have a job, 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:23.480 you're knocking on the door right and saying, okay, I'm available, 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:27.280 and the price goes down. And I'm just talking about 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:30.079 for this year. Yeah, the first round, a first round pick, 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:32.639 you're drafted him not only for this year, but you're 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:35.400 drafted him for the next five years, correct, and then 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:39.160 hopefully you're you wanted to sign him to a second contract. 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:42.320 That's like a Maria Cooper. Does that sound like a 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:47.320 Marie Cooper in what in what way we signed him? 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:50.440 He came on. Uh, well they didn't get we didn't 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:52.600 get him a one year deal. Yeah, we came we 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:54.840 bothered me in for the Hopes who having five years 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:58.400 with him, and then we signed it to another deal. Right. Yeah, 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:02.160 but I'm talking about the rookie the second the second contract, which, 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:07.080 by the way that you brought that up. Cleveland redid 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:16.640 his contract the twenty million in health. Yeah, in production 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:22.359 or failure. Uh, they turned his twenty million dollars base salary. 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:27.920 They paid him eighteen point eight million in a restructured 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:32.400 bonus and spread that over five years. Okay, paid him 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:39.080 a one point uh one two base salary this year 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:44.240 and his cap hit his only four point nine million, wow, 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:47.960 and they spread it over the eighteen million they gave 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:53.600 him at signing bonus, So he gets that already. And uh. 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:58.400 And they put two voidable years on the on the 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:01.760 back end of the three years that remained on his contract. 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:07.839 And so while the Cowboys paid six million dollars in 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:12.360 dead money to get rid of them, they redid his 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:17.719 contract over basically three years, and so his cap hit 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:20.920 for this year for the Cleveland Browns four points four 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:25.240 point eight nine six million dollars. Yeah, so they reduced 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:29.320 twenty million to four point eight nine to six. So 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:32.000 the Cowboys could have done that save fifteen millions. They 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:34.880 could have if they want to, right, So it was 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:38.839 conceivable that for a four point nine million dollars a 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:42.039 hit on your salary cap right now, the Cowboys could 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:45.479 have redone that deal correct and kept him and kept him. 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:47.599 So it was why did they not do it? Was 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:50.599 their decision, you know. They can say, well it was 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:54.279 cap saving, but what it was was they didn't want 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:58.080 to invest more money in him down the road, like 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:02.240 push more money back down the road, you know. And 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:05.080 it's the same decision they made with Lele Collins, right, 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:08.000 they didn't have to do that. They decided from a 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:12.680 cap saving standpoint, they can absorb his dead money and 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:17.440 then pay Terrence Steel no more than probably eight hundred 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:22.000 and some thousand dollars to start at right tackle. I mean, 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:25.320 that was the conscious decision. Now, you got to be right, right, 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:30.400 because it's not like you know, you had your hand 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:33.360 twisted to do that. That doesn't make me feel any 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:36.680 better that it regl ass to Cooper. I wasn't trying 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:40.560 to make that saddens me. That saddens me that that 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:42.520 you know, they had a chance to keep him and 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:46.520 didn't want to keep him. You know what that means 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:51.440 They've got somebody and more several guys that might be 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:54.960 available to them in this draft who they feel they'd 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:58.120 rather have right now and on into the future. And 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:02.919 free agency. You don't think so itself. We've got some 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:06.520 good free agents. I mean you you mentioned the offensive 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:09.320 linemen available and free. And see, if I had more 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:12.560 time this morning, I would have done wide receivers. Too 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:17.080 busy right now. Pretty I just knew he's gonna ask 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:19.600 me about wide receivers. I just didn't have time to 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:21.400 do it this morning. But there I can do the 0:07:21.440 --> 0:07:24.800 same process on wide receivers. So there are receivers out there. 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:28.680 I wanted to get my money right here. Um, Jarvis 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:35.440 Landry was visiting the Saints yesterday. Uh, five time pro bowler. 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:39.920 But again, when you talk about a guy like that, 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:43.040 it's like, well, how much how much is gonna cost? 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:47.600 Because his base salary in twenty twenty one was twelve 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:52.320 point five million, So he ain't he doesn't figure he's 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:57.560 coming cheap, right, We're not you know, bottom basement bargain 0:07:57.760 --> 0:08:03.680 price here um. But again last year, for whatever reason, 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:07.320 in Cleveland, he had fifty two catches for five hundred 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:12.600 and seventy yards and two touchdowns. So does he have 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:15.320 to this is his ninth season. Has he got to 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:21.400 re establish himself as a top wide receiver? And how 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:22.960 much are you gonna pay for that? And that's what 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:25.520 it comes down to those guys right now, right, how 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:28.440 much are you gonna pay? Which is a matter of 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:33.160 fact and will be careful how I say this with 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:37.520 Deebo Samuel asking for a trade, Well, here's why. I 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:40.079 heard people talk about it for ten minutes this morning 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:42.960 on the radio, and they didn't get to the reason why. 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:46.760 He's in the last year of his contract at three 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:51.400 point nine million, and he just saw these wide receivers 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:55.600 get paid thirty million, twenty eight and a half million, right, 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:59.880 and he's thinking, Hm, I'm maybe more valuable than they. 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:03.760 That reasoning never came up, and though, no, no, it 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:06.000 was like, I don't understand what happened. He had such 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:09.240 a good relationship there, and it's like, well, here's what happened. 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:14.520 And the last year of his base salary because he's 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:17.560 a second round pick, right, so he's only gets four 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:21.320 years that last year. There's no more guaranteed money, by 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:25.280 the way, So that's what this is all about. Yeah, 0:09:25.280 --> 0:09:27.320 how could things have gone wrong? He was the guy 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:31.320 carrying the boom box on the field that stadium, was 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:36.079 the called his own number. He called his own number, 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:38.880 and yeah cowboy and if San Francisco watched the game, 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:42.400 he's the reason they beat the Cowboys. Right, So I 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:45.480 was just throw that out and and oh but but 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:48.400 he liked a tweet of a picture of him in 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:52.319 a Cowboys uniform with Ceedee Lamb in the picture. That's 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:59.240 that's good. That's that's where where we're living in today, 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:01.679 where you you've got you can push your own there. 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:06.200 They're very easy. Well, and it's in members of our profession. 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:08.320 Do you think he thought of all that by himself 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:10.640 for his age? Oh, there must be something to this 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:13.360 because he liked to tweet with him at the Cowboys uniform. 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:15.080 He wants to come play for the Cowboys. He also 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:17.480 want he also wants to make twenty five million dollars 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:20.120 a year. He ain't coming to the Cowboys. And it 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:23.120 just shows you how quickly social media can take this 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:28.440 thing over right, scrubbed his Instagram account. That's right, as Kyler. 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:31.040 As Kyler got his Instagram back, going, yeah, you don't 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:32.680 have to be a genius just to make a bunch 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:35.960 of crap up. And by the way, Kyler's about the 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:40.120 same boat that the debot is, right right, So um, 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:41.840 all right, so what what do you want to get 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:46.200 to on your legal pad? Well, um, I'm trying to 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:50.600 remember the timing of last week? Did we did? We 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:55.000 were on Thursday? That was Thursday, Kelvin Joseph. Was it 0:10:55.559 --> 0:11:05.160 came out after Thursday or Friday? Yeah, of course it did. So. Yeah, 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:09.760 we spent all last Thursday talking about the primary needs. 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:12.720 That's right, That's right. We talked about needs. So that 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:15.320 I got the questions. I got the text message from 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:17.960 Bill he goes, wow, you might put cornerback on it. 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:25.360 Not again. We just did this last year, right, we did? 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:33.200 All right? So, I mean he's out here working out. Yeah, so, 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:36.800 but you just you don't know. Now they may know, 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:41.480 we don't know. You know, it's not like what's going 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:44.520 to happen with them. And by the way, the NFL 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:48.360 could have a say in it also, So if if 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:51.840 there is a possible suspension that we could be dealing 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:55.720 with this season two. So you're talking about your fourth 0:11:55.800 --> 0:12:00.000 corner who that's who? So what realistic? Okay, let's say 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:03.720 wipe the slate clean and you got Anthony Brown? Do 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:06.280 you got Treyvon Diggs, you got Jordan Lewis. Who's your 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:10.120 top three corners? Okay? Where do you want your second 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:15.240 round draft pick cornerback uh to be slotted this year 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:19.200 on the depth chart? I want him challenging for one 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:23.480 of those other two top three spots. I'm gonna give 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:27.560 Treyvon Diggs his spot, right, Anthony Brown's in the last 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:33.200 year of his contract. Jordan Lewis. Okay, they signed him, 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:39.240 but he might have two years look it up here 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:41.199 off the top of my head. He signed a three 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:46.080 year deal. But you would like to challenge him, right, 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:50.240 And that's what his job should have been. His eyes 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:55.600 should have been squarely on Jordan Lewis in his position. 0:12:56.040 --> 0:12:58.079 Yeah to me, that's that's that's all you're looking or 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:03.240 however it worked out because if if he was good 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:07.280 enough to start at left corner, Anthony Brown has played 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:10.080 the slot, he can move inside. If they thought he'd 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:13.240 do it better than Jordan Lewis. Okay, you look, that's 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:15.720 what they did last year at times? Right, all right, 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:19.160 you look at the inventory and the at cornerback and 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:22.360 what's left on their contract, and you were right. Jordan 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:25.640 Lewis has two years left on his contract. Anthony is 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:29.520 going into the second year of his contract. If you 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:33.319 look at, okay, who is going to be what cornerbacks 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:35.680 are going this time next year? If they don't do 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:40.040 anything with anybody's contract between now and next year at 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:43.640 this time, what is your inventory at cornerback and what's 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:46.680 left on their deal? Okay, Trayvon Diggs would have we'll 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:48.920 be going into his last year. No, he should have 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:52.000 four years. He's going into his third. He's going into 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:53.719 his third right now, so he'll be going into his 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:55.960 fourth year. In the second round draft pick, right, he's 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:58.400 going to the last year. This is next year, twenty 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:00.880 twenty three. Okay, Because I think when you're looking at 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:04.440 the draft, we get caught up in Okay, what needs 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:07.040 they have right now? Right? What about the needs they're 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:09.120 going to have a year from now and the year 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:11.479 after that and the year after that. And that's why 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:15.280 the second round pick on Joseph that's right, and so 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:17.720 Diggs a year from now, Diggs will be going into 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:21.320 his last year. Lewis is going into his last year now, 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:24.920 Kelvin Joseph would be going would have two years left 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:27.400 on his deal, and then to Sean Wright as well, 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:30.920 and Anthony Browns and Anthony Brown's a free agent next year. 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:33.520 So you've got a need a year from now for 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:36.720 a starting cornerback because Anthony Brown's deal is up, He's 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:38.560 going into the last year of his deal. And if 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:42.840 you just look at this year, he would at least 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:47.560 been your at the very least right compete. If he 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:50.840 doesn't win, he's your fourth corner. So if there's one injury, 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:55.280 he's on the field right now. After that, all you 0:14:55.360 --> 0:15:01.840 got is Nishan Right and Kron Brown. If there's no 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:06.960 Kelvin Joseph, CG CG C J. Goodwin is a corner 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:10.600 but he's a special teams guy, right, That's why he's here. 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:15.080 So let's let's say pick the number of games. Let's 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:19.520 say Joseph is out for for this, Okay, for a 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:22.280 number of games, then I mean you've got a definite 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:26.480 need right now for a cornerback. Yes, yea, And he 0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:33.200 hopes It's only a suspension, right, so anyway, there's a 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:37.200 need there safety. A year from now. Curse has a 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:39.480 two year deal, so he'll be he'll have one year left. 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:42.960 Hooker has one year left, and Mukuamu would have two 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:46.800 years left a year from now, and Wison he's going 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:49.200 into his last year. He's a free agent after this year, 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:52.280 so I mean, you can make you And by the way, 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:56.480 Demante CAZy okay, who have apparently visited the Seahawks this week, 0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:59.440 how many snaps did he play? What was his percentage 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:02.680 of naps that he played last year. I'm gonna guess. 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:04.240 I can look it up, but I'm gonna guess off 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:08.760 the top of my head. It was about he played. 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:14.920 I was thinking, Neil, I was stay Neil, Yes, Yes, 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:16.720 And so we're sitting here and thinking, oh, we got 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:19.960 safety taken care of, okay, because they signed Curse, they 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:22.840 signed Hooker, and they got Donovan. Wow. That's another but 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:26.080 the way they the way Dan Quinn and Joe Witt 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:31.280 employed their secondary guys and the sub packages, they used 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:34.760 those safeties a lot last year, and that was another 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:38.920 conscious decision to not Now I don't know if they 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:43.040 loadballed him on trying to resign him, but they didn't 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:46.240 make it a priority to bring them back. Right. Well, 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:48.800 when you look at the end of the season, his 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:54.400 productivity plays, I guess, went up, but plays made went down, yes, 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:59.320 And that was something that was glaring. Plays played went up, right, yes, 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:03.640 plays play when, but plays made went down. And so 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:07.679 you know, after the Charges game, you know, man, I 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:10.200 was thinking that he was that guy, you know, because 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:12.720 he had those kind of instincts, you know, and he 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:15.600 showed them early on in the first two to three 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:18.879 maybe four games. After that, man, it just seemed like 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:24.520 he became tired and a long season, like the grind 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:27.520 got to him. And let's face it, Hooker didn't exactly 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:31.879 you know, stand out right. He had a game flashed there, 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:34.880 That's what I thought, Bill, he flashed, Well, I really 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:37.440 thought that, but it wasn't like a consistent But he 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:40.520 hears again as a guy that now has some tread, 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:44.199 had lost some tread on the tire, and he's you know, 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:47.199 he has had an injury history, and so what if 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:50.359 you lose him. So the point being, when when they 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:54.320 approached this draft, you can go across the board with 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:57.760 basically every position group and you can make the case 0:17:57.800 --> 0:18:00.520 that there is a need, which is why I'm big 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:04.560 on best player available. Yeah, and you know when Steven 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:08.639 Stephen talked about it, But every team in the league 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:10.359 is like this. I mean, that's the way the league is. 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:13.560 The way the league is designed, where you know you're 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:16.560 you you only have these guys. It's like college. You 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:19.720 have to prioritize a group, not just individuals, but the 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:21.600 entire group. You have to figure out if you want 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:23.680 to prioritize that group of that And when they were 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:26.600 trying to pin Stephen down the other day, I guess 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:32.280 it was Tuesday, on his radio segment about positions and this, 0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:38.240 he goes, we want to draft good players, meaning just 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:40.920 what Bill said. It's like you're not gonna sit there 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:43.280 and say I gotta have a defensive end. You say 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:45.320 that you got to have a defensive end and you 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:50.000 end up with Taco Charlton. Right. You can't just go 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:55.359 in and say I need this, um we got we 0:18:55.520 --> 0:18:58.560 we have to we we like you said, we have 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:01.919 to have just get me a wide receiver though to 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:05.400 have let me go the guy want to quickly correct 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:08.080 on the Casey snaps it wasn't ninety four he was 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:10.760 seventy nine percent. He had he had over nine hundred 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:14.639 snaps on defense, uh last year, and it was so 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:16.960 that's seventy nine percent. Look at it starts. I bet 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:20.959 it starts for right at fourteen fifteen starts, fifteen fifteen starts, 0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:24.399 seventeen games, fifteen starts. Yeah, and we always talked about 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:27.000 how you know, in the second day, it doesn't matter 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:28.680 who starts, you're gonna get a lot of playing time 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:30.840 if you're part of the nickel even don pack, that's right, 0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:33.320 that's right. And but I mean, so that is a 0:19:33.400 --> 0:19:38.040 starting safety who they can think that they're replacing with Hooker. Okay, 0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:44.600 but but even what using Hooker more and you got 0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:49.040 Donovan Wilson right now, you brought back jay Ron Curse, 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:53.120 but now you're you're thin on the back end, so 0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:56.600 you're not as flexible to use him as one of 0:19:56.600 --> 0:20:00.520 those linebackers. Sort of, Yeah, it's Curse gonna um some 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:05.400 of the role that Neil had last year. Well, then 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:08.200 that to me, that would depend on what Wilson's doing, right, 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:10.960 you know, and they need him to step up the 0:20:11.000 --> 0:20:13.360 way he was before he got hit. If they if 0:20:13.359 --> 0:20:15.479 you could do that, then we are looking at some 0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:20.560 flexibility here, not necessarily at the cornerback position, but certainly 0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:23.400 within that interior from the slot position on the end. 0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:29.440 So those first three picks, and and that's why when 0:20:30.240 --> 0:20:37.560 Stephen answered the question about trading up, he goes, yeah, 0:20:37.560 --> 0:20:40.440 he goes, but when you trade up, and I'm paraphrasing, 0:20:40.960 --> 0:20:44.639 you're giving up a good player. Meaning if I'm going 0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:46.760 to trade up in the first it's going to be 0:20:46.800 --> 0:20:49.399 my second or third round pick, and your second and 0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:53.400 third round pick should be a potential starter for you, right, 0:20:53.920 --> 0:21:01.240 And and so trading up where they're at, somebody's got 0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:06.080 a fall, right, it's got to be Dez Bryant quality. 0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:09.280 And I went back and looked, and in six of 0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:13.080 the last eight years of the draft, they stayed right 0:21:13.119 --> 0:21:16.240 where they were and made the pick. One year they 0:21:16.280 --> 0:21:18.440 didn't have a first so that's one of the two 0:21:18.520 --> 0:21:21.720 years they didn't Cooper, and that was for the Amira 0:21:21.840 --> 0:21:25.400 Cooper trade. And then the other one was basically this 0:21:25.520 --> 0:21:29.800 last one. They trade it down to get a third 0:21:29.880 --> 0:21:34.680 round pick and Parsons and ended up with Chauncey Golston. So, 0:21:34.880 --> 0:21:37.840 but you have to go back to twenty twelve for 0:21:37.880 --> 0:21:40.320 the last time. They actually traded up in the first 0:21:40.400 --> 0:21:42.680 round and it was from fourteen to six to take 0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:46.360 Morris Claiborne, and they could have gotten Michael Bruckers at fourteen. 0:21:46.480 --> 0:21:50.119 Brockers was the second round pick they gave up. I 0:21:50.240 --> 0:21:57.240 believe Brockers nos Ruckers went fourteen fourteen, okay, so and 0:21:57.640 --> 0:21:59.800 the second round pick they gave up, which was forty 0:21:59.800 --> 0:22:03.560 five I have overall, they could have taken Bobby Wagner there, right, 0:22:03.960 --> 0:22:07.360 who went forty So what Steven I will give up? 0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:10.280 So so basically give up a good player. So basically 0:22:10.640 --> 0:22:14.840 to his point, they basically gave up Michael Brockers and 0:22:15.040 --> 0:22:18.080 Bobby Wagner from O Clayborne in that draft. Right, And 0:22:18.400 --> 0:22:21.720 that's and how did Brockers do. Brocker's still playing. He's 0:22:21.720 --> 0:22:25.639 still playing great. He's really good. Yeah. I mean he's 0:22:25.720 --> 0:22:27.840 not the type player that is going to get a 0:22:27.880 --> 0:22:31.640 lot of sacks, but as a defensive tackle, run defender 0:22:31.720 --> 0:22:33.760 and just a brock solid guy. I mean he was 0:22:33.840 --> 0:22:37.080 with Cole yeah, big yeah, I mean he's something like that. 0:22:37.480 --> 0:22:39.199 And he and he'll wind up playing about as long 0:22:39.200 --> 0:22:41.080 as Larry Cold. It was about fifteen years in the 0:22:41.160 --> 0:22:45.080 late and if and if Randy to that point, Randy White, 0:22:45.720 --> 0:22:48.639 I was doing some shows with Randy White, you know, 0:22:48.800 --> 0:22:52.040 several years ago, and he did some work with Michael Brockers, 0:22:52.080 --> 0:22:55.000 I think through his agent. I don't know if cast 0:22:55.160 --> 0:22:59.480 Lion represents him or whatever, but Brocker's agent got Randy 0:22:59.520 --> 0:23:02.760 to work with them, and Randy would just rave about Brockers. Yeah. 0:23:03.600 --> 0:23:09.120 But and MO, I mean, if you get a sixth 0:23:09.240 --> 0:23:12.800 round pick, sixth pick in the draft, I mean you 0:23:12.920 --> 0:23:15.480 want a second and third contract on that guy. Right, 0:23:16.040 --> 0:23:18.680 And Claybourne, I think his second was a one year 0:23:18.760 --> 0:23:21.199 deal because he was coming back from injury and then 0:23:21.280 --> 0:23:23.720 that was it. It didn't matter because he played, he 0:23:23.800 --> 0:23:26.800 didn't play well. He couldn't stay healthy. He didn't play well, 0:23:26.880 --> 0:23:29.920 he just couldn't stay healthy. So yeah, so this moving 0:23:30.040 --> 0:23:34.879 up moving down stuff, Their nature lately has been to 0:23:35.200 --> 0:23:38.080 stay put. And did you like the move down in 0:23:38.359 --> 0:23:42.240 twenty thirteen, Yes, which they moved down and they took 0:23:42.280 --> 0:23:45.320 Travis Frederick at thirty one, and then Terrence Williams was 0:23:45.400 --> 0:23:47.919 the guy that they took from with their third round pick, right, 0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:50.399 that they got by moving down the trade with San Francisco. 0:23:50.600 --> 0:23:53.479 So if they want a guard at twenty four, they 0:23:53.560 --> 0:23:57.000 need to move down and get something. All years that 0:23:57.119 --> 0:24:00.360 you guys are speaking of, how well did the free 0:24:00.400 --> 0:24:03.840 agency market play. I didn't have time to do the 0:24:03.920 --> 0:24:06.520 research of that. I mean, come on, that is I 0:24:06.640 --> 0:24:09.399 mean that that has everything to do with it, um 0:24:10.359 --> 0:24:14.560 because sometimes t Y Hilton's out there, sometimes Landry's out there. 0:24:15.000 --> 0:24:20.560 You know, Cole Beasley's out there. Yeah, bring back cold, 0:24:20.640 --> 0:24:23.160 damn it, let's do it all right to that point, 0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:26.480 I want to ask you, do the Cowboys need a 0:24:27.119 --> 0:24:30.080