1 00:00:04,795 --> 00:00:14,795 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. This 2 00:00:14,955 --> 00:00:18,635 Speaker 1: is a bulletin edition of the Countdown podcast. Supreme Court 3 00:00:18,835 --> 00:00:22,635 Speaker 1: Justice Samuel Alito has not only now confirmed that the 4 00:00:22,755 --> 00:00:25,715 Speaker 1: upside down American flag flown in front of his home 5 00:00:26,035 --> 00:00:30,595 Speaker 1: three days before President Biden's inauguration was meant to support 6 00:00:30,795 --> 00:00:34,355 Speaker 1: the Trump Stop the Steel plot, but in blaming his 7 00:00:34,395 --> 00:00:38,115 Speaker 1: wife and his neighbors for it, Alito has also blatantly 8 00:00:38,155 --> 00:00:43,475 Speaker 1: and transparently lied in his excuse quote, I spoke directly 9 00:00:43,475 --> 00:00:45,915 Speaker 1: with Justice Alito about the flag story in the New 10 00:00:46,035 --> 00:00:51,435 Speaker 1: York Times, posts Shannon Bream, a host on Fox News. 11 00:00:51,475 --> 00:00:54,315 Speaker 1: In addition to what's in the story, he told me 12 00:00:54,435 --> 00:00:57,955 Speaker 1: a neighbor on their street had a quote F Trump 13 00:00:58,235 --> 00:01:01,995 Speaker 1: sign that was within fifty feet of where children await 14 00:01:02,115 --> 00:01:07,155 Speaker 1: the school bus in January twe twenty one. That's the lie. 15 00:01:07,355 --> 00:01:11,995 Speaker 1: Local schools City of Alexandria, Virginia and Fairfax County, Virginia 16 00:01:12,075 --> 00:01:16,475 Speaker 1: had resumed remote learning a month earlier. There were no 17 00:01:16,635 --> 00:01:20,075 Speaker 1: school buses in January twenty twenty one. There were no 18 00:01:20,315 --> 00:01:23,755 Speaker 1: kids waiting at bus stops waiting for the school buses 19 00:01:23,995 --> 00:01:27,915 Speaker 1: that never were there. Alito seems to have forgotten that 20 00:01:28,035 --> 00:01:33,795 Speaker 1: anybody could check this. Continuing from Shannon Breem, Alito confronted 21 00:01:33,795 --> 00:01:36,315 Speaker 1: the neighbor who had the sign so offensive to school 22 00:01:36,355 --> 00:01:39,915 Speaker 1: kids who weren't there waiting for buses that weren't coming. Quote. 23 00:01:40,155 --> 00:01:43,475 Speaker 1: According to Justice Alito, things escalated and the neighbor put 24 00:01:43,555 --> 00:01:47,995 Speaker 1: up a sign personally addressing Missus Alito and blaming her 25 00:01:48,035 --> 00:01:51,715 Speaker 1: for the January sixth attacks. Justice Alito says he and 26 00:01:51,755 --> 00:01:54,795 Speaker 1: his wife were walking in the neighborhood and there were 27 00:01:54,875 --> 00:01:59,115 Speaker 1: words between Missus Alito and a mail at the home 28 00:01:59,235 --> 00:02:02,675 Speaker 1: with the sign. Unquote. Again, this sign could not have 29 00:02:02,755 --> 00:02:06,235 Speaker 1: been seen by any kids at any bus stop. Quote 30 00:02:06,275 --> 00:02:10,795 Speaker 1: Alito says, the man engaged in vulgar language quote, including 31 00:02:10,835 --> 00:02:15,155 Speaker 1: the C word unquote. Following that exchange, Missus Alito was 32 00:02:15,315 --> 00:02:19,195 Speaker 1: distraught and hung the flag upside down quote for a 33 00:02:19,315 --> 00:02:23,155 Speaker 1: short time unquote. Justice Alito says some neighbors on his 34 00:02:23,195 --> 00:02:26,595 Speaker 1: street are very political and acknowledges it was a very 35 00:02:26,635 --> 00:02:31,155 Speaker 1: heated time in January twenty twenty one. End quote Shannon Bream. 36 00:02:32,195 --> 00:02:35,835 Speaker 1: Except that last contention from Alito seems also to be 37 00:02:35,995 --> 00:02:41,515 Speaker 1: a lie or at best some classic paranoia. CNN reporter 38 00:02:41,635 --> 00:02:46,035 Speaker 1: Holmes librand went gumshoe quoting him. I spoke with some 39 00:02:46,075 --> 00:02:49,475 Speaker 1: of Justice Alito's neighbors who said they remember the American 40 00:02:49,515 --> 00:02:53,035 Speaker 1: flag being flown upside down at his home, but did 41 00:02:53,035 --> 00:02:57,555 Speaker 1: not recall any neighborhood drama surrounding it. Each neighbor I 42 00:02:57,715 --> 00:03:02,475 Speaker 1: spoke with reiterated multiple times how kind and well liked 43 00:03:02,555 --> 00:03:08,035 Speaker 1: the Alitos are. Granting that Alito has a hair trigger 44 00:03:08,075 --> 00:03:12,075 Speaker 1: for any criticism about anything, and has constructed for himself 45 00:03:12,115 --> 00:03:15,515 Speaker 1: a world in which his religion is under assault in 46 00:03:15,555 --> 00:03:19,595 Speaker 1: this country, and that Missus Martha Ann Alito has a 47 00:03:19,675 --> 00:03:24,835 Speaker 1: widespread reputation for exaggerated personal behavior, and that they could 48 00:03:24,835 --> 00:03:28,395 Speaker 1: have interpreted the tone behind the word hello as an 49 00:03:28,395 --> 00:03:31,875 Speaker 1: indicator of a neighbor being quote very political. The state 50 00:03:31,955 --> 00:03:36,835 Speaker 1: of political discourse in Alexandria Virginia obscures a larger issue 51 00:03:36,875 --> 00:03:41,235 Speaker 1: about Alito and how politically corrupt he had become by 52 00:03:41,235 --> 00:03:44,755 Speaker 1: this point, and what this flag represented. Glenn Thrush of 53 00:03:44,795 --> 00:03:47,275 Speaker 1: The New York Times hit that nail on the head 54 00:03:47,315 --> 00:03:50,635 Speaker 1: to quote him. This appears to be a confirmation that 55 00:03:50,755 --> 00:03:53,755 Speaker 1: won the Jodie Canter story in The New York Times 56 00:03:53,875 --> 00:03:58,595 Speaker 1: is accurate. Two he had a general awareness that an 57 00:03:58,675 --> 00:04:03,315 Speaker 1: upside down flag was an emblem of Trump's rejection of 58 00:04:03,395 --> 00:04:07,915 Speaker 1: a free and fair un quote. Thrush does not note it, 59 00:04:07,955 --> 00:04:11,795 Speaker 1: but Alito's comments to Fox also contradict his response when 60 00:04:11,875 --> 00:04:15,395 Speaker 1: The New York Times broke the original story quoting him, 61 00:04:15,835 --> 00:04:20,155 Speaker 1: quoting them quoting him, I had no involvement whatsoever in 62 00:04:20,195 --> 00:04:23,035 Speaker 1: the flying of the flag, just as Alito said in 63 00:04:23,075 --> 00:04:26,515 Speaker 1: an emailed statement to The Times, it was briefly placed 64 00:04:26,555 --> 00:04:29,435 Speaker 1: by Missus Alito in response to a neighbor's use of 65 00:04:29,715 --> 00:04:35,395 Speaker 1: objectionable and personally insulting language on yard signs. Alito had 66 00:04:35,635 --> 00:04:39,635 Speaker 1: no involvement whatsoever, he says there in the flying of 67 00:04:39,675 --> 00:04:43,675 Speaker 1: the flag when contacted by The Times on Wednesday or Thursday. 68 00:04:43,995 --> 00:04:47,835 Speaker 1: But by Friday he suddenly had an involved and intricate 69 00:04:47,875 --> 00:04:52,195 Speaker 1: story of an increasingly bitter and intense series of confrontations 70 00:04:52,755 --> 00:04:57,355 Speaker 1: with his neighbors, including his wife, becoming quote distraught, including 71 00:04:57,475 --> 00:05:02,355 Speaker 1: exact language used, including himself, and especially this vivid and 72 00:05:02,715 --> 00:05:06,595 Speaker 1: enraging detail about the flow with the F word being 73 00:05:06,755 --> 00:05:11,115 Speaker 1: visible to neighborhood children at the school bus stop that 74 00:05:11,235 --> 00:05:15,155 Speaker 1: had not been used in at least a month. There 75 00:05:15,195 --> 00:05:18,355 Speaker 1: were not any children at that bus stop for at 76 00:05:18,435 --> 00:05:21,995 Speaker 1: least a month, as Congressional aid Aaron Fritchner was the 77 00:05:21,995 --> 00:05:25,355 Speaker 1: first to note, citing Washington Post headlines from that time, 78 00:05:25,835 --> 00:05:28,635 Speaker 1: there were no school buses in much of December twenty 79 00:05:28,675 --> 00:05:32,795 Speaker 1: twenty and all of January twenty twenty one in that neighborhood. 80 00:05:33,235 --> 00:05:37,555 Speaker 1: On November twenty third, twenty twenty, Alexandria, Virginia City Schools 81 00:05:37,555 --> 00:05:40,795 Speaker 1: announced they would be going back to remote learning because 82 00:05:40,835 --> 00:05:45,195 Speaker 1: of COVID surges. On December fourteenth, twenty twenty, Fairfax and 83 00:05:45,275 --> 00:05:48,675 Speaker 1: other county schools the only others that would have had 84 00:05:48,715 --> 00:05:52,435 Speaker 1: school buses in the area near the Alitos Alexandria home, 85 00:05:52,875 --> 00:05:56,235 Speaker 1: The counties announced they would also close the school buildings. 86 00:05:56,635 --> 00:06:01,075 Speaker 1: Fairfax classrooms did not reopen until February fifteenth, twenty twenty one, 87 00:06:01,515 --> 00:06:06,955 Speaker 1: Alexandria's a few days earlier. Alito's truthfulness in claiming his 88 00:06:07,035 --> 00:06:11,115 Speaker 1: American flag was flown upside down for a short time 89 00:06:11,675 --> 00:06:15,235 Speaker 1: is also in serious doubt. A photograph showing it is 90 00:06:15,315 --> 00:06:20,235 Speaker 1: timestamped January seventeenth. The Times has posted it at its website. 91 00:06:20,515 --> 00:06:24,115 Speaker 1: As The Times noted in an email from January eighteenth, 92 00:06:24,195 --> 00:06:27,155 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, reviewed by The Times. A neighbor wrote 93 00:06:27,195 --> 00:06:30,035 Speaker 1: to a relative that the flag had been upside down 94 00:06:30,435 --> 00:06:34,275 Speaker 1: for several days at that point. When did it get 95 00:06:34,315 --> 00:06:39,915 Speaker 1: that way? January sixteenth, fifteenth, fourteenth? Should we go all 96 00:06:39,915 --> 00:06:43,795 Speaker 1: the way back to January sixth? Also lost in Alito's 97 00:06:43,795 --> 00:06:47,555 Speaker 1: apparent dissembling about the granular details of his stop the 98 00:06:47,595 --> 00:06:51,515 Speaker 1: steel protest is the idea that whoever hung that flag 99 00:06:51,595 --> 00:06:55,555 Speaker 1: upside down, or how many ever days or weeks it 100 00:06:55,635 --> 00:06:58,955 Speaker 1: hung that way, How on earth a man who has 101 00:06:59,035 --> 00:07:02,435 Speaker 1: now been on the Supreme Court for eighteen years could 102 00:07:02,475 --> 00:07:06,595 Speaker 1: have possibly thought that any form of in public political 103 00:07:06,675 --> 00:07:11,875 Speaker 1: protest hanging outside his own home was acceptable conduct for 104 00:07:11,915 --> 00:07:17,235 Speaker 1: a Supreme Court justice. That remains unanswered. Ledo now tells 105 00:07:17,275 --> 00:07:20,755 Speaker 1: Fox News this entire backstory of how the flag got there, 106 00:07:20,955 --> 00:07:23,675 Speaker 1: and not once does he address when it finally dawned 107 00:07:23,715 --> 00:07:26,955 Speaker 1: on him that it was utterly inappropriate and that it 108 00:07:27,035 --> 00:07:30,595 Speaker 1: damaged the neutrality and legitimacy not just of his own 109 00:07:30,675 --> 00:07:33,315 Speaker 1: tenure on the Court, but of the Supreme Court itself 110 00:07:33,435 --> 00:07:37,075 Speaker 1: and of the entirety of the American judicial system. Alito 111 00:07:37,195 --> 00:07:40,155 Speaker 1: was also on the US Court of Appeals for sixteen years. 112 00:07:40,515 --> 00:07:45,195 Speaker 1: He probably can still remember that, because ethical guidelines actually 113 00:07:45,235 --> 00:07:49,355 Speaker 1: applied to justices on that court. Had he or his wife, 114 00:07:49,595 --> 00:07:54,155 Speaker 1: or just some neighborhood prankster or perhaps a ghost hung 115 00:07:54,195 --> 00:07:57,555 Speaker 1: a political protest flag outside his house in the time 116 00:07:57,595 --> 00:08:01,875 Speaker 1: between an attempted coup and the inauguration of the legitimate president, 117 00:08:02,115 --> 00:08:04,915 Speaker 1: not only would he have come under formal review for that, 118 00:08:05,235 --> 00:08:08,715 Speaker 1: but all of his court's decisions, even remotely connected to 119 00:08:08,795 --> 00:08:12,875 Speaker 1: politics or protests or candidates, would have come under formal 120 00:08:12,915 --> 00:08:18,395 Speaker 1: review and possibly have been overturned. Clearly, at some point, 121 00:08:18,635 --> 00:08:22,675 Speaker 1: Justice Alito must have determined, Hey, this is a mistake. 122 00:08:23,875 --> 00:08:27,515 Speaker 1: Why didn't he do it earlier? There is also a 123 00:08:27,675 --> 00:08:32,075 Speaker 1: real reason to investigate this particular one of the many 124 00:08:32,115 --> 00:08:37,995 Speaker 1: disqualifying incidents involving Sam Alito. The exact date when his 125 00:08:38,475 --> 00:08:44,835 Speaker 1: American flag at his home was turned upside down to 126 00:08:44,955 --> 00:08:49,395 Speaker 1: represent the stop the Steel movement turned upside down by 127 00:08:49,435 --> 00:08:54,515 Speaker 1: him or his wife or the goddamned wind. The exact 128 00:08:54,595 --> 00:08:59,435 Speaker 1: date is vital information. Several years ago, the then Trump 129 00:08:59,515 --> 00:09:04,155 Speaker 1: Kraken lawyer turned Plea deal taker, Sidney Powell, revealed that 130 00:09:04,195 --> 00:09:07,755 Speaker 1: the backup plan if Mike Pence did not illegally overturn 131 00:09:07,795 --> 00:09:10,875 Speaker 1: the election and the mob did not stop the certification. 132 00:09:11,235 --> 00:09:15,435 Speaker 1: On January sixth, was to get a Supreme Court justice 133 00:09:15,795 --> 00:09:20,595 Speaker 1: to stop the certification for them. Guess which one. 134 00:09:20,635 --> 00:09:24,675 Speaker 2: We were following a Twelfth Amendment constitutional challenge to the 135 00:09:24,755 --> 00:09:28,275 Speaker 2: process that the Congress was about to use under the 136 00:09:28,315 --> 00:09:33,915 Speaker 2: Electoral Act provisions that simply don't job with the Twelfth 137 00:09:33,955 --> 00:09:38,195 Speaker 2: Amendment to the United States Constitution, and Justice Alito was 138 00:09:38,315 --> 00:09:41,595 Speaker 2: our Circuit justice for that. Louis Gohmert was the plaintiff 139 00:09:41,635 --> 00:09:44,995 Speaker 2: in our lawsuit, and we were suing the Vice President 140 00:09:45,115 --> 00:09:48,315 Speaker 2: to follow the Twelfth Amendment as opposed to the Electoral 141 00:09:48,795 --> 00:09:53,915 Speaker 2: count Act Electoral College Act. So that was the main point, 142 00:09:53,995 --> 00:09:59,235 Speaker 2: and Nancy Pelosi had finagled to file an amicas brief 143 00:09:59,235 --> 00:10:02,835 Speaker 2: in it. There'd been inside goings on in Congress whereby 144 00:10:03,035 --> 00:10:06,835 Speaker 2: I believe it was Steve Scale and McCarthy kept her 145 00:10:06,835 --> 00:10:10,755 Speaker 2: from being an actual party. She wanted to work her 146 00:10:10,795 --> 00:10:13,395 Speaker 2: way into the case as a party, but somehow politically 147 00:10:13,435 --> 00:10:16,475 Speaker 2: that didn't happen. So she got noticed when we made 148 00:10:16,475 --> 00:10:19,235 Speaker 2: her filing because she wanted to file on amigas brief 149 00:10:19,355 --> 00:10:23,675 Speaker 2: or head filed an amigas breef and then you know, 150 00:10:23,835 --> 00:10:27,035 Speaker 2: everything for a clues, and she had to really speed 151 00:10:27,235 --> 00:10:31,875 Speaker 2: up reconvening Congress to get the vote going before Justice 152 00:10:31,915 --> 00:10:34,835 Speaker 2: Alito might have issued an injunction to stop it all, 153 00:10:34,915 --> 00:10:35,955 Speaker 2: which is what should have. 154 00:10:35,995 --> 00:10:41,195 Speaker 1: Happened in short while Missus Alito was flying her freak 155 00:10:41,315 --> 00:10:45,995 Speaker 1: flag or preparing to, and Congress was literally under attack. 156 00:10:46,355 --> 00:10:50,635 Speaker 1: Trump lawyers expected that at minimum the certification would be 157 00:10:50,675 --> 00:10:53,755 Speaker 1: postponed until January seventh by the Speaker of the House, 158 00:10:53,995 --> 00:10:58,795 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi. But before it could happen, then Sam Alito 159 00:10:59,235 --> 00:11:03,155 Speaker 1: would issue a stay preventing the peaceful transfer of power 160 00:11:03,635 --> 00:11:07,795 Speaker 1: to President ille Joe Biden. While I stop the steel 161 00:11:07,875 --> 00:11:11,795 Speaker 1: flag was hanging from or was soon to be hanging 162 00:11:11,875 --> 00:11:17,075 Speaker 1: from his home. That is the core of this extraordinarily 163 00:11:17,155 --> 00:11:20,875 Speaker 1: important story that got less attention from the media than 164 00:11:20,915 --> 00:11:24,235 Speaker 1: did the high school graduation of Trump's son, whose name 165 00:11:24,355 --> 00:11:28,155 Speaker 1: he barely remembers. And by the way, Sidney Powell, the 166 00:11:28,195 --> 00:11:35,635 Speaker 1: word is jibe jibe jive. What you said is what 167 00:11:35,675 --> 00:11:42,595 Speaker 1: your logical rationalizations of treason are. Lastly, pathetically and predictably, 168 00:11:42,995 --> 00:11:47,075 Speaker 1: the Democratic response to Alito and stop the steal has 169 00:11:47,115 --> 00:11:51,475 Speaker 1: been terrified and mouse like. Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Dick 170 00:11:51,555 --> 00:11:55,275 Speaker 1: Durbin says that this is proof that Congress needs to 171 00:11:55,355 --> 00:11:59,595 Speaker 1: pass ethics reform for the Supreme Court. Nothing about forcing 172 00:11:59,715 --> 00:12:04,035 Speaker 1: Alito off the court, or hearings or sanctions or getting 173 00:12:04,075 --> 00:12:08,235 Speaker 1: the Department of Justice involved, just a milk toast request 174 00:12:08,715 --> 00:12:12,995 Speaker 1: that Alito recuse himself from upcoming Trump related decisions about 175 00:12:13,035 --> 00:12:18,195 Speaker 1: January sixth cases and this farcical, fabricated presidential immunity that 176 00:12:18,315 --> 00:12:23,195 Speaker 1: could overturn the democracy itself. The Democrats should be calling 177 00:12:23,235 --> 00:12:27,435 Speaker 1: for Alito's immediate resignation or a boycott of the Supreme Court, 178 00:12:27,555 --> 00:12:30,635 Speaker 1: or at least hearings into this. Instead, they are hoping 179 00:12:31,035 --> 00:12:35,515 Speaker 1: that John Roberts does something. John Roberts would not be 180 00:12:35,555 --> 00:12:38,995 Speaker 1: willing to take Martha and Alito's flag away from her. 181 00:12:40,195 --> 00:12:43,795 Speaker 1: What would the Republicans be doing if to merge two 182 00:12:44,075 --> 00:12:48,555 Speaker 1: current Supreme Court scandals involving them and their wives, If, say, 183 00:12:48,835 --> 00:12:54,035 Speaker 1: Justice Katanji Brown Jackson had hung an Antifa related flag 184 00:12:54,275 --> 00:12:58,955 Speaker 1: or sign from her home for several days and taken 185 00:12:58,995 --> 00:13:03,875 Speaker 1: cash and gifts directly from George Soros. Chairman Durbin needs 186 00:13:03,915 --> 00:13:05,955 Speaker 1: to think about the end answer to that question, or 187 00:13:06,035 --> 00:13:08,995 Speaker 1: somebody needs to think about it for him, and then 188 00:13:09,075 --> 00:13:13,115 Speaker 1: he should do that thing. The rest of this edition 189 00:13:13,155 --> 00:13:16,435 Speaker 1: of Countdown is a repeat of Friday's regular edition, including 190 00:13:16,515 --> 00:13:19,955 Speaker 1: James Thurber's short story how to Relax while Broadcasting, and 191 00:13:20,275 --> 00:13:25,075 Speaker 1: next a translation of the amazingly self unaware mission statement 192 00:13:25,435 --> 00:13:29,235 Speaker 1: issued by the amazingly self unaware Chris Solissa. If you 193 00:13:29,275 --> 00:13:32,755 Speaker 1: have heard this previously and you hit stop now, I 194 00:13:32,835 --> 00:13:46,915 Speaker 1: will not take offense post scripts to the news, some headlines, 195 00:13:46,955 --> 00:13:52,475 Speaker 1: some updates, some stark, some predictions. Dateline, Washington, d of C. 196 00:13:55,755 --> 00:14:00,315 Speaker 1: That's just in. Chris Solissa has issued a mission statement. 197 00:14:01,595 --> 00:14:07,115 Speaker 1: No no, no, mission, not emission. I don't know how 198 00:14:07,155 --> 00:14:09,635 Speaker 1: many times I've talked about Chris Solisza, who used to 199 00:14:09,675 --> 00:14:12,315 Speaker 1: be when he worked for the Washington Post, a semi 200 00:14:12,395 --> 00:14:17,515 Speaker 1: regular on Countdown on MSNBC, and then he developed an 201 00:14:17,595 --> 00:14:23,995 Speaker 1: unfortunate habit of both sidesing everything except stuff that didn't 202 00:14:24,035 --> 00:14:30,155 Speaker 1: really matter. No one reporter is responsible for but her emails. 203 00:14:30,635 --> 00:14:33,835 Speaker 1: The obsession with the story, which we think of is 204 00:14:33,875 --> 00:14:36,915 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, but actually started in twenty fifteen and went 205 00:14:36,955 --> 00:14:41,915 Speaker 1: on for more than a year. That moment of obsession, 206 00:14:42,675 --> 00:14:46,235 Speaker 1: which may yet be the official start of the day 207 00:14:46,275 --> 00:14:50,875 Speaker 1: that American democracy caught its fatal illness. That doesn't owe 208 00:14:50,875 --> 00:14:54,395 Speaker 1: to one guy being a bad reporter, just not understanding 209 00:14:54,395 --> 00:14:56,715 Speaker 1: what it was he was supposed to do or how 210 00:14:56,755 --> 00:15:01,475 Speaker 1: he was supposed to evaluate truth from falsehood. Simply because 211 00:15:01,955 --> 00:15:04,635 Speaker 1: both of those things was said by people wearing tie 212 00:15:04,875 --> 00:15:07,475 Speaker 1: didn't mean you had to give equal balance to them. 213 00:15:08,475 --> 00:15:11,555 Speaker 1: It owes in a larger sense to a combination of 214 00:15:11,635 --> 00:15:17,475 Speaker 1: decreasing training and decreasing intelligence among reporters, because I don't 215 00:15:17,515 --> 00:15:20,035 Speaker 1: know how many more good reporters there are now than 216 00:15:20,075 --> 00:15:24,195 Speaker 1: there were in nineteen seventy, but the number of outlets 217 00:15:24,235 --> 00:15:27,915 Speaker 1: that can give them prominence is about ten times as large. 218 00:15:28,275 --> 00:15:31,035 Speaker 1: For all of the contractions in the news industry, and 219 00:15:31,075 --> 00:15:34,155 Speaker 1: there have been so many, so many great news organizations 220 00:15:34,155 --> 00:15:35,995 Speaker 1: that have gone right out the window and under the 221 00:15:36,035 --> 00:15:39,395 Speaker 1: bus and into the toilet and all the other cliches 222 00:15:39,435 --> 00:15:42,515 Speaker 1: you want to use for everyone that's gone out of business. 223 00:15:42,555 --> 00:15:45,155 Speaker 1: There's been one hundred new ones and they've all been crap, 224 00:15:45,915 --> 00:15:48,715 Speaker 1: but they do give jobs or at least platforms to people, 225 00:15:48,835 --> 00:15:51,715 Speaker 1: and one of them was Chris Silizza. And in addition 226 00:15:51,755 --> 00:15:54,515 Speaker 1: to sort of overall stupidity in the news media that's 227 00:15:54,675 --> 00:15:57,675 Speaker 1: gradually taken over in the last fifty years. The second 228 00:15:57,755 --> 00:16:03,355 Speaker 1: part is fomo fear of missing out on somebody else's story. 229 00:16:03,435 --> 00:16:09,835 Speaker 1: If you look at someone else's newspaper, newscasts, podcasts, twitter 230 00:16:09,875 --> 00:16:13,555 Speaker 1: feed and there's something on there that you have not emphasized, 231 00:16:13,595 --> 00:16:16,675 Speaker 1: and they have and they're all excited about it, your 232 00:16:16,875 --> 00:16:20,755 Speaker 1: instant reaction is to get excited about it too. I 233 00:16:20,835 --> 00:16:24,435 Speaker 1: look at it and go, this is not interesting. Sorry, 234 00:16:25,635 --> 00:16:29,715 Speaker 1: that's unfortunately not what most of them do. And when 235 00:16:29,755 --> 00:16:33,915 Speaker 1: they write the history, if after butt her emails there 236 00:16:34,035 --> 00:16:36,955 Speaker 1: is any history, and anybody is allowed to write it, 237 00:16:37,955 --> 00:16:42,075 Speaker 1: the book that comes out about but her emails may 238 00:16:42,235 --> 00:16:46,755 Speaker 1: very well have Chrys Sillizz's picture on it. Just in 239 00:16:46,875 --> 00:16:50,875 Speaker 1: the middle six months of the year twenty fifteen, just 240 00:16:51,515 --> 00:16:57,635 Speaker 1: in those six months, he wrote fifty different pieces and 241 00:16:57,755 --> 00:17:03,315 Speaker 1: blog entries and articles for The Washington Post on her emails, 242 00:17:03,475 --> 00:17:07,635 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton's emails and the headlines. And again he may 243 00:17:07,755 --> 00:17:11,115 Speaker 1: or may not have composed These blog posts are different 244 00:17:11,155 --> 00:17:14,275 Speaker 1: than newspaper articles. You can always depend on the idea 245 00:17:14,315 --> 00:17:17,275 Speaker 1: that a newspaper article headline was not written by the 246 00:17:17,315 --> 00:17:20,195 Speaker 1: person who wrote the article, but that's not necessarily true 247 00:17:20,195 --> 00:17:22,675 Speaker 1: on a blog post. Every blog post I ever wrote 248 00:17:22,715 --> 00:17:25,835 Speaker 1: I wrote my own headlines, and these were just some 249 00:17:25,915 --> 00:17:28,635 Speaker 1: of the headlines in that segment that he did for 250 00:17:28,675 --> 00:17:32,155 Speaker 1: The Washington Post called the Fix Between March and I 251 00:17:32,155 --> 00:17:38,995 Speaker 1: guess September of twenty fifteen, you ready. March third, The Fix, 252 00:17:39,235 --> 00:17:44,075 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton's private email address at State reinforces everything people 253 00:17:44,115 --> 00:17:49,075 Speaker 1: don't like about her. March fourth, The Hillary Clinton email 254 00:17:49,115 --> 00:17:54,155 Speaker 1: story just keeps getting worse for her. August twelfth, This 255 00:17:54,315 --> 00:17:57,995 Speaker 1: email story just keeps getting worse for Hillary Clinton. And 256 00:17:58,035 --> 00:18:00,275 Speaker 1: you'll notice that's the same thing he said the previous time, 257 00:18:00,515 --> 00:18:04,395 Speaker 1: only with the words in different order. Then let's see 258 00:18:04,515 --> 00:18:10,515 Speaker 1: this is August ninth. Hillary Clinton's email problem isn't going away. 259 00:18:11,275 --> 00:18:15,155 Speaker 1: August eleventh, Hillary clinton email issue is not going away 260 00:18:15,195 --> 00:18:20,515 Speaker 1: anytime soon. September fourteenth, Hillary Clinton's email issues have become 261 00:18:20,555 --> 00:18:25,435 Speaker 1: a massive political problem. July thirtieth, Hillary Clinton as honest 262 00:18:25,475 --> 00:18:31,115 Speaker 1: and trustworthy as Donald Trump. April twenty eighth, Hillary Clinton 263 00:18:31,155 --> 00:18:34,195 Speaker 1: has answered seven questions as a candidate. Here are seven 264 00:18:34,275 --> 00:18:39,355 Speaker 1: more she should answer. But of course I'm only scratching 265 00:18:39,395 --> 00:18:41,875 Speaker 1: the surface here because it's a podcast, and the amount 266 00:18:41,915 --> 00:18:45,755 Speaker 1: of time I have available to me is infinity. It's 267 00:18:45,835 --> 00:18:48,955 Speaker 1: kind of majestic. When you read the headlines together like that, 268 00:18:49,195 --> 00:18:51,435 Speaker 1: when you look at the big picture, It's like that 269 00:18:51,635 --> 00:18:55,035 Speaker 1: scene in the movie The Right Stuff about the founding 270 00:18:55,555 --> 00:19:00,435 Speaker 1: of the American space program where they set up and 271 00:19:01,075 --> 00:19:05,955 Speaker 1: lift off trial rocket after trial rocket, and they all collapse. 272 00:19:06,395 --> 00:19:08,635 Speaker 1: Some of them get like three feet off the pad 273 00:19:08,675 --> 00:19:13,195 Speaker 1: and then implode upon themselves, and they show the reflections 274 00:19:13,195 --> 00:19:16,235 Speaker 1: of everything going up in flames, and the eyeglasses of 275 00:19:16,275 --> 00:19:20,195 Speaker 1: the scientists behind it, and Verner von Brown looks very unhappy, 276 00:19:21,115 --> 00:19:24,995 Speaker 1: and machine after machine blows up in the air on 277 00:19:25,035 --> 00:19:28,035 Speaker 1: the launch pad while they're carrying it out, while they're 278 00:19:28,115 --> 00:19:31,795 Speaker 1: drawing it, the drawing blows up. It's like that looking 279 00:19:31,875 --> 00:19:36,035 Speaker 1: at those emails, especially ones like the Hillary Clinton email 280 00:19:36,075 --> 00:19:38,235 Speaker 1: story just keeps getting worse for her, followed by this 281 00:19:38,275 --> 00:19:41,195 Speaker 1: email story just keeps getting worse for Hillary Clinton, followed 282 00:19:41,195 --> 00:19:46,075 Speaker 1: by Hillary Clinton's email problem isn't going away anyway. The 283 00:19:46,155 --> 00:19:49,195 Speaker 1: man who was behind all that, Chris Salizza, who eventually 284 00:19:49,315 --> 00:19:52,235 Speaker 1: left the Washington Post to go to work for CNN 285 00:19:52,595 --> 00:19:56,235 Speaker 1: only did he get fired there and has been independent 286 00:19:56,275 --> 00:20:00,395 Speaker 1: ever since, has now issued a mission statement. And this 287 00:20:00,675 --> 00:20:02,995 Speaker 1: is the crux of what I want to talk about here. 288 00:20:04,915 --> 00:20:07,635 Speaker 1: He wrote this apparently about a week ago. I only 289 00:20:07,675 --> 00:20:11,075 Speaker 1: saw it yesterday, so it's news to me because this 290 00:20:11,355 --> 00:20:15,115 Speaker 1: Chris Sili is a mission statement story isn't going away. 291 00:20:16,315 --> 00:20:21,315 Speaker 1: I watched Jerry McGuire over the weekend. That's another movie. 292 00:20:21,355 --> 00:20:23,395 Speaker 1: And I know I make too many movie references, but 293 00:20:23,395 --> 00:20:26,275 Speaker 1: at least the ones that I refer to don't suck. 294 00:20:27,515 --> 00:20:30,795 Speaker 1: I refer to the right stuff. He's watching Jerry McGuire 295 00:20:30,915 --> 00:20:34,235 Speaker 1: over the weekend with my wife and kids. It's a 296 00:20:34,275 --> 00:20:38,955 Speaker 1: little cheesier than I remember. Okay, a lot cheesier, something 297 00:20:38,955 --> 00:20:42,195 Speaker 1: that's often said about Chris's work. But one thing stuck 298 00:20:42,235 --> 00:20:46,235 Speaker 1: with me. Jerry's mission statement, a vision of what he 299 00:20:46,355 --> 00:20:49,275 Speaker 1: wanted to do and why, how he could be different 300 00:20:49,395 --> 00:20:55,395 Speaker 1: and better. So I wrote my own on journalism. Now, 301 00:20:55,395 --> 00:20:59,355 Speaker 1: before you say this must be fiction, let me read 302 00:20:59,395 --> 00:21:04,115 Speaker 1: it to you. Bullet point. I will hold politicians to 303 00:21:04,155 --> 00:21:07,075 Speaker 1: account when they lie, when they obfuscate, or when they 304 00:21:07,115 --> 00:21:09,635 Speaker 1: try to play too cute with their words or their actions. 305 00:21:10,435 --> 00:21:13,635 Speaker 1: I will be tough but fair on Donald Trump. I 306 00:21:13,715 --> 00:21:16,875 Speaker 1: will be tough but fair on Joe Biden. I will 307 00:21:16,875 --> 00:21:19,955 Speaker 1: not conclude that something is good solely because Democrats do it, 308 00:21:20,155 --> 00:21:23,195 Speaker 1: or something is bad solely because Republicans do it, or 309 00:21:23,475 --> 00:21:27,595 Speaker 1: vice versa. I will never write things for clicks or 310 00:21:27,635 --> 00:21:30,555 Speaker 1: to add subscribers who want red meat thrown at them. 311 00:21:30,995 --> 00:21:33,235 Speaker 1: I will always show my work and how I got 312 00:21:33,275 --> 00:21:35,875 Speaker 1: to my conclusions. I will admit when I got it 313 00:21:35,915 --> 00:21:39,795 Speaker 1: wrong and explain how and why it happened. I will 314 00:21:39,835 --> 00:21:42,395 Speaker 1: never talk down to you or assume I know better. 315 00:21:42,675 --> 00:21:45,995 Speaker 1: I will always work to foster kindness and civility in 316 00:21:46,035 --> 00:21:50,875 Speaker 1: our community. No, no, no, no, no, None of this 317 00:21:50,955 --> 00:21:55,155 Speaker 1: is meant ironically anyway. That's the short version. Well, I've 318 00:21:55,155 --> 00:21:57,395 Speaker 1: gotten a hold of the long version. It has all that, 319 00:21:57,515 --> 00:21:59,555 Speaker 1: and then it goes on to say I will not 320 00:21:59,715 --> 00:22:02,475 Speaker 1: hold politicians to account when they lie. I will not 321 00:22:02,595 --> 00:22:05,355 Speaker 1: be tough or fair with Donald Trump, be tough for 322 00:22:05,435 --> 00:22:07,955 Speaker 1: fair with Joe Biden. I will conclude that something is 323 00:22:07,995 --> 00:22:10,955 Speaker 1: good solely because Democrats do it. I will always write 324 00:22:10,955 --> 00:22:13,155 Speaker 1: things for clicks. I will never admit when I got 325 00:22:13,195 --> 00:22:15,355 Speaker 1: it wrong. I will always talk down to you and 326 00:22:15,395 --> 00:22:18,755 Speaker 1: assume I know better. You see what I did there? 327 00:22:19,675 --> 00:22:22,875 Speaker 1: He's both scientists, So the first half of his mission 328 00:22:22,915 --> 00:22:26,115 Speaker 1: statement would consist of all those noble statements, but my 329 00:22:26,355 --> 00:22:29,635 Speaker 1: satirical second half in that he would contradict all those 330 00:22:29,635 --> 00:22:33,995 Speaker 1: noble statements. See what I did there. This caused me 331 00:22:34,075 --> 00:22:37,435 Speaker 1: to text a couple of my old MSNBC colleagues with 332 00:22:37,635 --> 00:22:40,955 Speaker 1: a variation of this basic message. Remind me why we 333 00:22:41,075 --> 00:22:43,635 Speaker 1: used to book this guy on the show? Did he 334 00:22:43,795 --> 00:22:47,035 Speaker 1: drive himself into the office? Did he bring the crew 335 00:22:47,235 --> 00:22:53,235 Speaker 1: food instead? I was reminded that the stuff from I 336 00:22:53,315 --> 00:22:56,075 Speaker 1: remember in two thousand and six, seven eight, As I 337 00:22:56,115 --> 00:22:58,315 Speaker 1: said here once when we used to have real trouble 338 00:22:58,315 --> 00:23:02,195 Speaker 1: getting guests on MSNBC, Chrystalizza was already. He's always ready 339 00:23:02,235 --> 00:23:06,515 Speaker 1: to go. Probably brought food to the crew. It wasn't 340 00:23:06,595 --> 00:23:10,115 Speaker 1: just then or with the email stuff. It's keeping gun 341 00:23:10,155 --> 00:23:13,755 Speaker 1: in pace to this day. I was reminded by somebody 342 00:23:13,795 --> 00:23:17,875 Speaker 1: that during the Super Bowl, remember the RFK Junior ad 343 00:23:18,755 --> 00:23:22,795 Speaker 1: where they stole his uncle's nineteen sixty presidential campaign ad 344 00:23:22,835 --> 00:23:26,275 Speaker 1: word for word and had him voice it. Oh the class. 345 00:23:26,315 --> 00:23:32,515 Speaker 1: It sounds like a frog that's been kidnapped and being 346 00:23:32,555 --> 00:23:35,955 Speaker 1: held for ransom. They spent fifteen million dollars on it. 347 00:23:35,995 --> 00:23:37,755 Speaker 1: But of course he had nothing to do with it. It 348 00:23:37,795 --> 00:23:39,875 Speaker 1: was done by an outside group. There was no coordination. 349 00:23:39,955 --> 00:23:41,355 Speaker 1: He put it at the head of his Twitter feed. 350 00:23:41,395 --> 00:23:44,195 Speaker 1: He pinned it, so the FCC got involved or FEC 351 00:23:44,235 --> 00:23:48,275 Speaker 1: got involved, and the family, the Kennedys denounced him. Right 352 00:23:48,315 --> 00:23:50,995 Speaker 1: after it aired during the Super Bowl, somebody had tweeted 353 00:23:51,195 --> 00:23:54,195 Speaker 1: the Robert F. Kennedy Junior ad was brilliant, and Chris 354 00:23:54,235 --> 00:23:59,355 Speaker 1: Salizzis saw that about this commercial that the world would 355 00:23:59,395 --> 00:24:02,995 Speaker 1: condemn within minutes, and he got there first and retweeted 356 00:24:02,995 --> 00:24:11,475 Speaker 1: it and added quote, totally agree Hillary Clinton as honest 357 00:24:11,515 --> 00:24:14,395 Speaker 1: and trustworthy as Donald Trump. Hillary Clinton has answered seven 358 00:24:14,475 --> 00:24:17,115 Speaker 1: questions as a candidate. Here are seven more she should answer. 359 00:24:19,715 --> 00:24:22,675 Speaker 1: There is nothing out there that Chris Siliza cannot get 360 00:24:22,715 --> 00:24:27,195 Speaker 1: wrong or get right and then correct himself, so he 361 00:24:27,275 --> 00:24:31,595 Speaker 1: remains wrong, or get wrong and right, or get right 362 00:24:32,475 --> 00:24:34,955 Speaker 1: and then correct it and then correct the correction, so 363 00:24:35,035 --> 00:24:38,195 Speaker 1: he winds up being wrong seventy five percent of the time. 364 00:24:39,955 --> 00:24:43,835 Speaker 1: He insisted that the models said Trump had not even 365 00:24:43,875 --> 00:24:48,355 Speaker 1: the slightest chance of reelection. He wrote this at the 366 00:24:48,435 --> 00:24:52,275 Speaker 1: end of September twenty twenty. The models must have been 367 00:24:52,355 --> 00:24:56,955 Speaker 1: Zulander and Giselle Bunchin. He predicted a Republican red wave 368 00:24:57,235 --> 00:25:00,595 Speaker 1: weeks before the twenty twenty two mid terms. He said 369 00:25:00,635 --> 00:25:03,475 Speaker 1: that when she would not put Jim Jordan and Jim 370 00:25:03,555 --> 00:25:07,115 Speaker 1: Banks on it. Nancy Pelosi, let me get the exact quote. 371 00:25:07,395 --> 00:25:11,155 Speaker 1: Doomed the already tiny chances of the January sixth committee 372 00:25:11,195 --> 00:25:15,435 Speaker 1: actually mattering. And then the first time we mentioned him 373 00:25:15,475 --> 00:25:18,475 Speaker 1: here in this podcast November of twenty twenty two, the 374 00:25:18,515 --> 00:25:23,235 Speaker 1: House Majority whip Jim Clyburn, south Carolina history degree from 375 00:25:23,275 --> 00:25:27,555 Speaker 1: South Carolina State history teacher in high school, said on 376 00:25:27,635 --> 00:25:29,915 Speaker 1: Fox the facts are very clear. I've studied history all 377 00:25:29,915 --> 00:25:32,115 Speaker 1: of my life. I've taught history, and I'm telling you 378 00:25:32,155 --> 00:25:34,955 Speaker 1: what I see here are parallels to what the history 379 00:25:35,075 --> 00:25:37,675 Speaker 1: was in this world back in the nineteen thirties, in 380 00:25:37,755 --> 00:25:43,555 Speaker 1: Germany and in Italy. And Chris Saliza knew better than 381 00:25:43,715 --> 00:25:47,635 Speaker 1: Jim Clyburn because Christalia is a very serious political reporter. 382 00:25:47,835 --> 00:25:49,915 Speaker 1: I mean, look at all the extensive coverage he did 383 00:25:49,955 --> 00:25:52,635 Speaker 1: of the Hillary Clinton email story and how decisive that 384 00:25:52,755 --> 00:25:57,515 Speaker 1: was in the election. That proves he was right right. Also, 385 00:25:57,555 --> 00:26:01,755 Speaker 1: he hosts Political Trivia Night, and he went to Georgetown. 386 00:26:02,675 --> 00:26:06,995 Speaker 1: Christaliza wrote after Jim Cliburn said, Hey, this looks like 387 00:26:07,155 --> 00:26:11,315 Speaker 1: Nazi Germany, like in nineteen thirty two, So pre Nazi 388 00:26:11,315 --> 00:26:14,915 Speaker 1: Germany or Italy before Mussolini started wearing the uniform and 389 00:26:15,035 --> 00:26:19,875 Speaker 1: killing people. Krystalizer wrote less than a year and a 390 00:26:19,915 --> 00:26:22,195 Speaker 1: half ago. I guess about a year and a half ago. 391 00:26:22,675 --> 00:26:25,595 Speaker 1: Rule number one of politics goes like this, don't compare 392 00:26:25,635 --> 00:26:29,275 Speaker 1: anything to Nazi Germany. Just don't. Before we go any further, 393 00:26:29,915 --> 00:26:33,115 Speaker 1: it's worth voting here that comparing anything to the Nazi regime, 394 00:26:33,275 --> 00:26:35,355 Speaker 1: which led to the systemic murder of more than six 395 00:26:35,395 --> 00:26:37,835 Speaker 1: million Jews, is a mistake. It just is. There is 396 00:26:37,835 --> 00:26:40,395 Speaker 1: nothing in our current moment that suggests we are anywhere 397 00:26:40,435 --> 00:26:42,315 Speaker 1: close to that. Well, of course, the whole point of 398 00:26:42,355 --> 00:26:45,075 Speaker 1: what Cliburn was saying was he was not comparing Hitler 399 00:26:45,715 --> 00:26:48,915 Speaker 1: to the current moment of November twenty twenty two. He 400 00:26:49,075 --> 00:26:52,635 Speaker 1: was comparing it to our immediate future. He was comparing 401 00:26:52,715 --> 00:26:57,115 Speaker 1: the Hitler of nineteen thirty to our America of twenty 402 00:26:57,115 --> 00:26:59,675 Speaker 1: twenty two, and thus of twenty twenty four, what is 403 00:26:59,715 --> 00:27:03,995 Speaker 1: ahead for us? What I see here are parallels to 404 00:27:04,075 --> 00:27:06,515 Speaker 1: what the history was in this world back in the 405 00:27:06,595 --> 00:27:10,155 Speaker 1: nineteen thirties in Germany. In Italy, he didn't mention the Nazis. 406 00:27:10,515 --> 00:27:17,835 Speaker 1: Chris Eliza did then. At about the same time, there 407 00:27:17,875 --> 00:27:20,115 Speaker 1: was this tweet that went out, America needs a total 408 00:27:20,235 --> 00:27:24,515 Speaker 1: cleansing only Trump can do with the help of true patriots. 409 00:27:26,275 --> 00:27:29,195 Speaker 1: Herschel Walker sent that. It was in response to the 410 00:27:29,355 --> 00:27:32,595 Speaker 1: nutjob lawyer Lynn Wood, who had tweeted calling for the 411 00:27:32,595 --> 00:27:35,435 Speaker 1: execution of Mike Pants by a firing squad in November 412 00:27:35,555 --> 00:27:41,115 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. The response for Chrystalizit of that was 413 00:27:41,155 --> 00:27:46,035 Speaker 1: the election deniers like Herschel total cleansing of America Walker quote, 414 00:27:46,235 --> 00:27:49,315 Speaker 1: represent a serious threat to our way of life. After all, 415 00:27:49,315 --> 00:27:52,515 Speaker 1: if we can't accept that our leaders were fairly elected 416 00:27:52,555 --> 00:27:54,755 Speaker 1: and have faith in the system, it's very hard to 417 00:27:54,795 --> 00:28:01,155 Speaker 1: imagine how we can expect anyone to effectively govern. That's see, 418 00:28:01,195 --> 00:28:04,035 Speaker 1: that's what would be wrong with a fascist coup to 419 00:28:04,115 --> 00:28:08,275 Speaker 1: overturn democratic election and install a loser as winner and 420 00:28:08,395 --> 00:28:11,915 Speaker 1: do heaven knows what to the actual elected president. That's 421 00:28:11,955 --> 00:28:17,035 Speaker 1: the problem there. It would interfere with governance. The lines 422 00:28:17,315 --> 00:28:24,355 Speaker 1: at the Department of Motor Vehicles would quadruple if there 423 00:28:24,395 --> 00:28:27,475 Speaker 1: were a civil war going on or a coup, or 424 00:28:27,515 --> 00:28:32,395 Speaker 1: if there were tanks rolling down Pennsylvania Avenue and Chris 425 00:28:32,435 --> 00:28:38,035 Speaker 1: Salissa was at the DMZ. Imagine the inconvenience for Americans 426 00:28:38,795 --> 00:28:45,675 Speaker 1: trying to report for jury duty. Now, I'm not going 427 00:28:45,755 --> 00:28:49,475 Speaker 1: to say ignored the idea that there might be a 428 00:28:49,555 --> 00:28:56,635 Speaker 1: fascist coup. He did address this another fascist coup, which 429 00:28:56,715 --> 00:29:00,635 Speaker 1: is bad. Exclamation point very bad. See. You know it's 430 00:29:00,675 --> 00:29:03,435 Speaker 1: more important because he used it very on the second reference. 431 00:29:03,795 --> 00:29:07,195 Speaker 1: But it's also remembering that democracy held in twenty twenty 432 00:29:07,555 --> 00:29:10,155 Speaker 1: even while it was under active assault from Donald Trump 433 00:29:10,195 --> 00:29:15,235 Speaker 1: and his minions. Again, the man who helped bring you 434 00:29:15,555 --> 00:29:19,955 Speaker 1: but her emails is saying, what do you mean attempted murder? 435 00:29:20,195 --> 00:29:24,555 Speaker 1: He's not dead, is he? Quote. We absolutely should be 436 00:29:24,635 --> 00:29:27,835 Speaker 1: vigilant about the potential rise of authoritarian politicians who would 437 00:29:27,835 --> 00:29:31,475 Speaker 1: wipe out things like the rule of law to further 438 00:29:31,555 --> 00:29:35,875 Speaker 1: their own political ambitions. But let's stop making the Nazi 439 00:29:35,915 --> 00:29:42,195 Speaker 1: Germany comparisons for all of our sakes, politicians who would 440 00:29:42,195 --> 00:29:45,275 Speaker 1: wipe out things like the rule of law, because there's 441 00:29:45,315 --> 00:29:47,595 Speaker 1: lots of other things they could do that would have 442 00:29:47,635 --> 00:29:50,795 Speaker 1: as much damage as wiping out the rule of law. Again, 443 00:29:51,595 --> 00:29:57,115 Speaker 1: tanks blocking Chris's way into the DMV, that would really 444 00:29:57,155 --> 00:29:59,955 Speaker 1: be a tragedy. I mean, what would happen? What would 445 00:29:59,995 --> 00:30:01,955 Speaker 1: happen if he was going back to the world's only 446 00:30:01,995 --> 00:30:06,435 Speaker 1: remaining blockbuster with that copy of Jerry Maguire that he'd 447 00:30:06,475 --> 00:30:10,355 Speaker 1: watched with his wife and kids and found it a 448 00:30:10,355 --> 00:30:12,715 Speaker 1: little bit cornerer. What if he was trying to return 449 00:30:12,755 --> 00:30:15,155 Speaker 1: it and they were cooping out there in the street 450 00:30:15,275 --> 00:30:18,835 Speaker 1: and he couldn't return the VHS. I mean, it's probably 451 00:30:18,875 --> 00:30:22,675 Speaker 1: the only VHS copy. What if it got damaged. What 452 00:30:22,755 --> 00:30:26,275 Speaker 1: if they shot up his car and you know, nobody 453 00:30:26,315 --> 00:30:31,075 Speaker 1: was hurt, but the VHS copy, the videotape of Jerry 454 00:30:31,155 --> 00:30:34,835 Speaker 1: maguire were the last living copy of Jerry McGuire. I mean, 455 00:30:35,915 --> 00:30:38,875 Speaker 1: isn't anybody going to think of Tom Cruise? Won't somebody 456 00:30:38,875 --> 00:30:42,675 Speaker 1: think about Tom Cruise's work gone forever because of this coup? 457 00:30:43,595 --> 00:30:45,355 Speaker 1: I mean, this is what we have to worry about, 458 00:30:45,555 --> 00:30:48,435 Speaker 1: politicians who would wipe out things like the last copy 459 00:30:48,475 --> 00:30:53,115 Speaker 1: of Jerry McGuire. But let's stop making the Nazi Germany 460 00:30:53,155 --> 00:30:56,755 Speaker 1: comparison for all of our sakes. Even though Trump keeps 461 00:30:56,835 --> 00:30:59,915 Speaker 1: quoting Hitler, even though Trump kept a copy of Hitler's 462 00:30:59,915 --> 00:31:04,955 Speaker 1: speeches by his bed. The next day, after Solisa wrote 463 00:31:04,955 --> 00:31:07,395 Speaker 1: that Elon Musk told his one hundred and fifteen million 464 00:31:07,395 --> 00:31:12,275 Speaker 1: followers to vote Republican and then responded to a quote 465 00:31:12,315 --> 00:31:15,595 Speaker 1: that was falsely attributed to Voltaire that was actually spoken 466 00:31:15,595 --> 00:31:19,275 Speaker 1: by an American neo Nazi pedophile, And the day after that, 467 00:31:19,395 --> 00:31:22,235 Speaker 1: Musk tweeted a photo of a Nazi soldier from nineteen 468 00:31:22,355 --> 00:31:34,475 Speaker 1: forty Chris Solissa Mission statement. Hillary Clinton finally apologizes for 469 00:31:34,515 --> 00:31:38,875 Speaker 1: her private email server. What took so long? September eighth, 470 00:31:38,875 --> 00:31:47,795 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen. Hillary Clinton's apology interview annotated September ninth, twenty fifteen. 471 00:31:48,355 --> 00:31:53,395 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton's worst week in Washington August twenty first, twenty fifteen. 472 00:31:53,675 --> 00:31:57,675 Speaker 1: Now you know what the whole fifty two fifty six 473 00:31:57,795 --> 00:32:01,155 Speaker 1: sixty weeks stretch from about that headline through November of 474 00:32:01,195 --> 00:32:04,355 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. Those are all tied for Hillary Clinton's worst 475 00:32:04,355 --> 00:32:07,355 Speaker 1: week in Washington, and in fact, those are all tied 476 00:32:07,435 --> 00:32:12,115 Speaker 1: for to that point America's worst week in Washington, and 477 00:32:12,235 --> 00:32:15,035 Speaker 1: people like chrystal As are responsible for it, and never 478 00:32:15,275 --> 00:32:19,835 Speaker 1: in their lives will they ever understand this. If you 479 00:32:19,915 --> 00:32:28,195 Speaker 1: could actually claim that your mission statement should include I 480 00:32:28,275 --> 00:32:30,915 Speaker 1: will never write things for clicks or to add subscribers 481 00:32:30,915 --> 00:32:33,515 Speaker 1: who want red meat thrown at them. I will always 482 00:32:33,555 --> 00:32:35,715 Speaker 1: show my work and how I got to my conclusions. 483 00:32:35,755 --> 00:32:37,875 Speaker 1: I will admit when I got it wrong and explain 484 00:32:37,995 --> 00:32:42,515 Speaker 1: how and why it happened. Chrystal is a literally nine 485 00:32:42,595 --> 00:32:46,275 Speaker 1: years after he was as wrong as anybody in American 486 00:32:46,395 --> 00:32:52,275 Speaker 1: journalism could be wrong. Doesn't he even know that this 487 00:32:52,395 --> 00:32:54,555 Speaker 1: is where he was wrong and will not admit that 488 00:32:54,595 --> 00:32:56,995 Speaker 1: he got it wrong and cannot explain how and why 489 00:32:57,035 --> 00:32:59,235 Speaker 1: it happened because he doesn't believe he got it wrong. 490 00:33:00,315 --> 00:33:02,275 Speaker 1: I will never talk down to you or assume I 491 00:33:02,395 --> 00:33:06,115 Speaker 1: know better. Except for these fifty articles about Hillary Clinton's 492 00:33:06,115 --> 00:33:09,075 Speaker 1: emails in just that six month period, that's not even 493 00:33:09,115 --> 00:33:16,355 Speaker 1: the whole list. So reading all this, I was thinking 494 00:33:16,395 --> 00:33:20,275 Speaker 1: about asking Chrys Saliza for a comment to put in 495 00:33:20,355 --> 00:33:27,075 Speaker 1: this podcast about how these stories Hillary Culton finally apologizes 496 00:33:27,115 --> 00:33:30,555 Speaker 1: for a private email server, what took so long? And 497 00:33:30,635 --> 00:33:34,075 Speaker 1: the upcoming looking back at the ten year anniversary of 498 00:33:34,195 --> 00:33:37,955 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton's email servers, my best fifty seven articles on 499 00:33:38,075 --> 00:33:41,955 Speaker 1: Hillary clinton emails. I thought, you know, I could ask 500 00:33:42,035 --> 00:33:51,555 Speaker 1: him about that. I was thinking of sending him an email. 501 00:33:52,515 --> 00:34:07,395 Speaker 1: What do you think? Here? The number one story on 502 00:34:07,435 --> 00:34:10,075 Speaker 1: the Countdown and it's Friday and the weekend edition, so 503 00:34:10,155 --> 00:34:13,835 Speaker 1: that means a little more. James Thurber for you. James 504 00:34:13,835 --> 00:34:16,635 Speaker 1: Thurber had many full time jobs. He was a street 505 00:34:16,675 --> 00:34:20,395 Speaker 1: reporter for the Columbus Dispatch and later the New York Post, 506 00:34:21,115 --> 00:34:23,355 Speaker 1: and he was an editor of The New Yorker long 507 00:34:23,355 --> 00:34:26,595 Speaker 1: before he was a writer or cartoonist there, and people 508 00:34:26,715 --> 00:34:30,995 Speaker 1: kept trying to make him into a radio star, leading 509 00:34:31,035 --> 00:34:35,275 Speaker 1: to a short story which is understandably one of my favorites. 510 00:34:36,035 --> 00:34:39,035 Speaker 1: A lot of it speaks of broadcasting in another world 511 00:34:39,115 --> 00:34:42,035 Speaker 1: and of course another century. But it is amazing how 512 00:34:42,075 --> 00:34:45,475 Speaker 1: much of what you will hear now is still true today. 513 00:34:45,915 --> 00:34:48,595 Speaker 1: From the May fifth, nineteen thirty four edition of The 514 00:34:48,635 --> 00:34:54,915 Speaker 1: New Yorker, How to Relax while Broadcasting by James Thurber. 515 00:34:56,715 --> 00:34:59,875 Speaker 1: The evening I went up to the studios for my 516 00:34:59,995 --> 00:35:02,755 Speaker 1: first radio broadcast. I got off by mistake, at the 517 00:35:02,835 --> 00:35:06,275 Speaker 1: sixteenth floor instead of the seventeenth. I decided not to 518 00:35:06,315 --> 00:35:08,675 Speaker 1: wait for the elevator, but just run up the stairs 519 00:35:08,675 --> 00:35:13,355 Speaker 1: to the seventeenth floor, because elevators in broadcasting buildings are 520 00:35:13,395 --> 00:35:18,995 Speaker 1: always crowded with small Italian musicians carrying cellos. And furthermore, 521 00:35:19,035 --> 00:35:21,715 Speaker 1: when the upsign above the elevators in these buildings lights, 522 00:35:21,755 --> 00:35:23,835 Speaker 1: the operator of the car that stops where he usually 523 00:35:23,875 --> 00:35:28,195 Speaker 1: says down, and before you can think, you find yourself 524 00:35:28,195 --> 00:35:30,875 Speaker 1: on the first floor again, without any way of getting 525 00:35:30,915 --> 00:35:34,115 Speaker 1: back up, because you surrendered your pass to the man 526 00:35:34,195 --> 00:35:36,195 Speaker 1: at the desk in the lobby the first time you 527 00:35:36,235 --> 00:35:40,075 Speaker 1: went up. I walked to a door on the sixteenth floor, 528 00:35:40,155 --> 00:35:43,715 Speaker 1: marked stairs, and stepped out into a cold, dark staircase 529 00:35:43,755 --> 00:35:46,795 Speaker 1: shaft and walked up one flight. I found that the 530 00:35:46,875 --> 00:35:51,075 Speaker 1: door on that floor wouldn't open. It was after seven 531 00:35:51,075 --> 00:35:53,955 Speaker 1: o'clock in the evening and the door had been officially locked. 532 00:35:55,075 --> 00:35:57,515 Speaker 1: I hurried back down to the sixteenth floor and discovered 533 00:35:57,875 --> 00:36:01,155 Speaker 1: that the door there had locked behind me too. I 534 00:36:01,195 --> 00:36:04,955 Speaker 1: began to beat on it and kick it from far off. 535 00:36:04,995 --> 00:36:09,715 Speaker 1: A faint voice came to me, finally saying, cut that out. 536 00:36:11,715 --> 00:36:14,435 Speaker 1: The only thing to do was walk down fifteen flights 537 00:36:14,635 --> 00:36:17,795 Speaker 1: to the main floor, which I did, but the door 538 00:36:17,955 --> 00:36:21,315 Speaker 1: out into the lobby was also locked, and nobody answered 539 00:36:21,315 --> 00:36:27,435 Speaker 1: my screams and poundings. Screaming and pounding is not radio, 540 00:36:27,835 --> 00:36:31,715 Speaker 1: as the broadcasting people say. I went down into the basement, 541 00:36:31,715 --> 00:36:34,995 Speaker 1: which was dark and gloomy, and hunted for the elevator shaft. 542 00:36:35,195 --> 00:36:37,275 Speaker 1: I found it, but there was no bell to push, 543 00:36:37,715 --> 00:36:40,115 Speaker 1: so I sat on an old chair until the car 544 00:36:40,155 --> 00:36:43,555 Speaker 1: came down. The operator was surprised to see me and 545 00:36:43,635 --> 00:36:47,355 Speaker 1: asked me for my pass. I told him I didn't 546 00:36:47,395 --> 00:36:50,315 Speaker 1: have a pass. He thought awhile, and then asked if 547 00:36:50,315 --> 00:36:53,235 Speaker 1: mister Hayman knew I was down there. I said I 548 00:36:53,275 --> 00:36:56,595 Speaker 1: didn't think so. He was pretty much alarmed by that, 549 00:36:56,715 --> 00:36:58,515 Speaker 1: but he took me up to the seventeenth floor after 550 00:36:58,555 --> 00:37:01,675 Speaker 1: warning me never to come down to the basement again 551 00:37:01,955 --> 00:37:07,035 Speaker 1: without a pass. There was nobody on the seventeenth floor 552 00:37:07,035 --> 00:37:10,515 Speaker 1: who understood my case, although the people I talked to 553 00:37:10,635 --> 00:37:13,875 Speaker 1: were patient and courteous. They said the seventeenth floor was 554 00:37:14,035 --> 00:37:16,395 Speaker 1: entirely given over to the business department and had no 555 00:37:16,755 --> 00:37:20,355 Speaker 1: studios or microphones. What I probably wanted was the twenty 556 00:37:20,515 --> 00:37:24,075 Speaker 1: seventh floor. Up there, I found some people I had 557 00:37:24,075 --> 00:37:26,395 Speaker 1: met before, but they were pretty busy and seemed to 558 00:37:26,395 --> 00:37:29,875 Speaker 1: think it was the wrong night. I sat down in 559 00:37:29,915 --> 00:37:31,915 Speaker 1: a chair, and presently a man came up to me 560 00:37:31,915 --> 00:37:37,075 Speaker 1: and asked me if I was mister Ttherer. I said 561 00:37:37,395 --> 00:37:42,195 Speaker 1: I wasn't sure, and he said to follow him. I 562 00:37:42,315 --> 00:37:44,395 Speaker 1: was shown into an office where there were some officials 563 00:37:44,435 --> 00:37:45,875 Speaker 1: I knew and some friends of mine. One of the 564 00:37:45,915 --> 00:37:48,915 Speaker 1: officials was denying a story somebody had been telling about 565 00:37:48,915 --> 00:37:52,435 Speaker 1: a man who fell dead in front of the microphone. 566 00:37:53,355 --> 00:37:58,835 Speaker 1: It seems he had merely had a stroke. In a 567 00:37:58,835 --> 00:38:02,035 Speaker 1: little while, I was led in a solemn march to 568 00:38:02,115 --> 00:38:06,795 Speaker 1: a small and lonely studio, heavily raped and silent. I 569 00:38:06,835 --> 00:38:09,675 Speaker 1: took out a cigarette, but saw a sign saying no smoking, 570 00:38:10,275 --> 00:38:13,315 Speaker 1: so I put the cigarette away again. Some men in 571 00:38:13,395 --> 00:38:15,795 Speaker 1: the glass in control room began to look at me. 572 00:38:15,875 --> 00:38:19,035 Speaker 1: I could see their lips move, but I couldn't hear anything. 573 00:38:19,835 --> 00:38:22,275 Speaker 1: A man tiptoed into the room where I was and 574 00:38:22,315 --> 00:38:26,435 Speaker 1: shook hands with me, and tiptoed out again. He never 575 00:38:26,915 --> 00:38:31,075 Speaker 1: came back. I walked over to a regular microphone, such 576 00:38:31,115 --> 00:38:33,635 Speaker 1: as I had talked over once or twice before and 577 00:38:33,715 --> 00:38:35,875 Speaker 1: had got used to. But somebody led me away from 578 00:38:35,875 --> 00:38:38,995 Speaker 1: that said I was to talk over a table microphone 579 00:38:39,275 --> 00:38:43,075 Speaker 1: because it would help me to relax. This turned out 580 00:38:43,075 --> 00:38:45,675 Speaker 1: to be a table about the size of a card 581 00:38:45,795 --> 00:38:49,435 Speaker 1: table with a microphone set innocently in its center, face up, 582 00:38:49,515 --> 00:38:54,155 Speaker 1: more or less like an ash tray. It studied simplicity 583 00:38:54,315 --> 00:38:56,915 Speaker 1: caused me to tighten up slightly, and I mentioned this 584 00:38:56,955 --> 00:39:02,995 Speaker 1: to a man be it your ease, he said. I 585 00:39:03,035 --> 00:39:06,875 Speaker 1: stood over the table, asped its edges firmly, and leaned 586 00:39:07,035 --> 00:39:10,955 Speaker 1: down toward the microphone. Someone grasped me. No, no, he said, 587 00:39:11,315 --> 00:39:13,035 Speaker 1: you just sit down at the table, as if you 588 00:39:13,035 --> 00:39:14,955 Speaker 1: were sitting in a chair at any table and talk. 589 00:39:16,275 --> 00:39:20,155 Speaker 1: I sat down, trying to remember how I sit in 590 00:39:20,195 --> 00:39:22,835 Speaker 1: a chair at a table, especially at a card table 591 00:39:22,835 --> 00:39:27,355 Speaker 1: at which nobody else is sitting. Relax, said someone with 592 00:39:27,435 --> 00:39:30,315 Speaker 1: a note of command. I slumped back in the chair 593 00:39:30,315 --> 00:39:33,395 Speaker 1: and placed on the table the papers I was going 594 00:39:33,435 --> 00:39:36,515 Speaker 1: to use, and began fussing with them. Sh. Somebody hissed, 595 00:39:36,515 --> 00:39:40,075 Speaker 1: don't rustle them. This is a very highly sensitized mic 596 00:39:40,395 --> 00:39:43,635 Speaker 1: which picks up every slightest sound. It would sound like 597 00:39:43,715 --> 00:39:49,395 Speaker 1: a waterfall sh if you rustled them. I began to 598 00:39:49,435 --> 00:39:52,475 Speaker 1: drum my fingers on the tabletop, but a courteous official 599 00:39:52,515 --> 00:39:56,155 Speaker 1: put his hand on mine and stop that tapping would 600 00:39:56,275 --> 00:40:01,475 Speaker 1: sound like cavalry crossing a bridge to your listeners, he explained, 601 00:40:02,275 --> 00:40:06,995 Speaker 1: Just take it easy. I leaned back in my chair 602 00:40:06,995 --> 00:40:10,075 Speaker 1: and adjusted my tie, doubts, giving the effect of someone 603 00:40:10,115 --> 00:40:12,875 Speaker 1: trying to take a leather belt away from a bulldog. 604 00:40:14,515 --> 00:40:16,955 Speaker 1: In a moment, an announcer came in and said we 605 00:40:16,955 --> 00:40:20,555 Speaker 1: were all ready to go. Okay, I said, standing up, 606 00:40:20,755 --> 00:40:24,435 Speaker 1: let's get out. He smiled with calm assurance and said no. 607 00:40:24,915 --> 00:40:27,995 Speaker 1: He meant that we were about to start the program. 608 00:40:28,395 --> 00:40:31,595 Speaker 1: Everybody but him tiptoed out of the room. I sat 609 00:40:31,595 --> 00:40:33,555 Speaker 1: down at the table again. I could see them all 610 00:40:33,595 --> 00:40:36,475 Speaker 1: watching me from the control room. Somebody in there raised 611 00:40:36,475 --> 00:40:39,195 Speaker 1: his hand sharply and let it drop sharply. I expected 612 00:40:39,235 --> 00:40:42,315 Speaker 1: to hear the faint hiss of lethal gas escaping into 613 00:40:42,315 --> 00:40:45,355 Speaker 1: the chamber, but instead the announcer started to talk. I 614 00:40:45,475 --> 00:40:48,435 Speaker 1: creaked nervously in the chair at this, and the listeners heard, 615 00:40:48,555 --> 00:40:52,515 Speaker 1: along with his calm announcement, the sound of a buckboard 616 00:40:52,635 --> 00:40:56,035 Speaker 1: falling over a cliff. Finally, he pointed a finger at me. 617 00:40:56,395 --> 00:41:00,155 Speaker 1: I sat bolt up and began to talk to the 618 00:41:00,195 --> 00:41:06,915 Speaker 1: ash tray. When it was all over, everybody tiptoed whisperingly 619 00:41:06,955 --> 00:41:10,395 Speaker 1: into the room and congratulated me on being only five 620 00:41:10,555 --> 00:41:14,915 Speaker 1: seconds too slow. Not bad for a beginner. The record 621 00:41:15,555 --> 00:41:19,955 Speaker 1: is one five hundredth of a second. I got up 622 00:41:19,955 --> 00:41:21,635 Speaker 1: and started it out of the room, but a man 623 00:41:21,715 --> 00:41:24,275 Speaker 1: followed me and took me by the arm. Where are 624 00:41:24,355 --> 00:41:28,235 Speaker 1: you going? He asked, let's all go out and get 625 00:41:28,235 --> 00:41:31,435 Speaker 1: a drink. I said, But you haven't got time, he said, 626 00:41:31,715 --> 00:41:37,435 Speaker 1: All this has just been the rehearsal. I must have 627 00:41:37,595 --> 00:41:41,275 Speaker 1: tightened up horribly at that, for he said, soothingly, take 628 00:41:41,315 --> 00:41:44,155 Speaker 1: it easy. You got plenty of time to relax in 629 00:41:44,635 --> 00:41:50,235 Speaker 1: he looked at his wristwatch. You got four minutes how 630 00:41:50,315 --> 00:42:07,835 Speaker 1: to relax While broadcasting by James Thurber. I've done all 631 00:42:07,835 --> 00:42:10,955 Speaker 1: the damage I can do here. Thank you for listening. Countdown. 632 00:42:10,995 --> 00:42:14,155 Speaker 1: Musical directors Brian Ray and John Phillips Schanel arranged, produced, 633 00:42:14,155 --> 00:42:17,195 Speaker 1: and performed most of our music. Mister Ray was on guitars, 634 00:42:17,195 --> 00:42:19,595 Speaker 1: bass and drums, and mister Shanelle handled the orchestration and 635 00:42:19,635 --> 00:42:22,915 Speaker 1: the keyboards, and it was produced by Tko Brothers. Other music, 636 00:42:22,955 --> 00:42:25,795 Speaker 1: including some of the Beethoven compositions, arranged and performed by 637 00:42:25,795 --> 00:42:28,475 Speaker 1: the group No Horns Allowed. The sports music is the 638 00:42:28,475 --> 00:42:32,195 Speaker 1: Olberman theme from ESPN two, written by Mitch Warren Davis 639 00:42:32,235 --> 00:42:38,555 Speaker 1: courtesy of ESPN Inc. ESPN ESPN. How could you misspell 640 00:42:38,755 --> 00:42:42,235 Speaker 1: ESPN or mispronounce it? It's spelled very similarly to the 641 00:42:42,235 --> 00:42:48,075 Speaker 1: way it sounds. ESPN ESPN our satirical and pithy musical 642 00:42:48,115 --> 00:42:51,875 Speaker 1: comments are by Nancy Fauss, the best baseball stadium organist ever. 643 00:42:52,035 --> 00:42:56,035 Speaker 1: At our announcer today was my friend Nancy Faust. Everything 644 00:42:56,075 --> 00:42:59,555 Speaker 1: else pretty much my fault as usual. That's countdown for 645 00:42:59,555 --> 00:43:02,075 Speaker 1: this the one hundred and seventy third day until the 646 00:43:02,075 --> 00:43:07,115 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four presidential election, and twenty eighth day since 647 00:43:07,235 --> 00:43:10,635 Speaker 1: Dictator Jay Trump's first attempt at coup against the democratically 648 00:43:10,675 --> 00:43:13,915 Speaker 1: elected government of the United States. Use the legal system, 649 00:43:14,315 --> 00:43:17,435 Speaker 1: use the mental health system, use presidential immunity if the 650 00:43:17,475 --> 00:43:20,915 Speaker 1: Supreme Court makes it up. Use the not regularly given 651 00:43:20,915 --> 00:43:25,315 Speaker 1: elector objection option to stop him from doing it again 652 00:43:25,835 --> 00:43:31,275 Speaker 1: while we still can. The next scheduled countdown is Tuesday. 653 00:43:31,715 --> 00:43:35,155 Speaker 1: The throat may be on the mend, the sinus infection 654 00:43:35,395 --> 00:43:39,995 Speaker 1: may be on the run. Hopefully I'll be at seventy 655 00:43:40,035 --> 00:43:43,835 Speaker 1: five percent by then. Whenever the next one is till 656 00:43:43,875 --> 00:43:47,475 Speaker 1: the next one, I'm Keith Olderman. Good morning, good afternoon, 657 00:43:47,795 --> 00:44:10,755 Speaker 1: good night, and what about her emails? Countdown with Keith 658 00:44:10,755 --> 00:44:15,835 Speaker 1: Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, 659 00:44:15,995 --> 00:44:19,995 Speaker 1: visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get 660 00:44:20,035 --> 00:44:20,955 Speaker 1: your podcasts.