Speaker 1: They just sit there and they're like, this sucks. It's
Speaker 1: like it's not just funny. I'm like, you're fucking right,
Speaker 1: be this and you're right, but this fucking sucks and
Speaker 1: it's so cathartic.
Speaker 2: And that's yeah, that's the whole beauty of comedy.
Speaker 3: More Better, Better, Hello, and welcome to More Better, a
Speaker 3: podcast where we stop pretending to have it all together
Speaker 3: and embrace the journey of becoming a little more.
Speaker 4: Better every day, or we're at least trying to. That's
Speaker 4: all right, that's most of the Marrow and that's Stephanie Beatrice.
Speaker 5: And today on the pod, we have a very special guest.
Speaker 5: Chelsea Party is going to be joining us today. Look,
Speaker 5: we already recorded that part. And let me just tell you,
Speaker 5: she's so fucking funny, she's so fantastic. We're so beside
Speaker 5: ourselves that she had the time to.
Speaker 6: Come on and talk with us. And we're going to
Speaker 6: talk about comedy.
Speaker 5: That's what we're talking about today, because we're always trying
Speaker 5: to get more better at comedy.
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, so please enjoy.
Speaker 4: Actress, comedian, writer, director, musician, host a her own podcasts.
Speaker 6: A million thanks, and she's a genius.
Speaker 4: She's literally one of the greats. Literally literally, we're just
Speaker 4: going to jump right into it. So yeah, here it is.
Speaker 1: More better.
Speaker 5: On today's episode, we're talking about being funny, and we
Speaker 5: have a step by sup guide for you, steps one
Speaker 5: through twenty, and I hope, I hope that you're listening
Speaker 5: and taking notes. Chelsea Peretti's here on the pod.
Speaker 4: You guys, guys, heyoe yay, thanks for thanks for joining us.
Speaker 2: I'm so happy to be here.
Speaker 5: What we wanted to talk to Chelsea about today was
Speaker 5: how much we all hate our kids. No, we want
Speaker 5: to talk about We want to talk about comedy with
Speaker 5: Chelsea because we both think that she's exceptionally gifted at it,
Speaker 5: one of the greats.
Speaker 1: I started crying. If I started crying for twenty minutes
Speaker 1: right now, that.
Speaker 2: Feels like.
Speaker 6: It would be good.
Speaker 2: You heard that one. We just cried for one compliment.
Speaker 6: Compliment. It was wild.
Speaker 4: If you don't know, Melissa and I and Chelsea were
Speaker 4: on a show called Brooklyn nine nine, which was a
Speaker 4: comedy series, and that's how we met each other.
Speaker 6: Were you you were at my hall back or screen
Speaker 6: test something?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, definitely cross paths in that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, do you remember how they had a makeup artist
Speaker 6: for us there. God, really, really, you just got a
Speaker 6: makeup artist. I didn't get that. Here's why I suspect
Speaker 6: she was there because we're ugly. We're ugly, as.
Speaker 2: They were like bringing makeup.
Speaker 4: If this monster is gonna have any shot in television,
Speaker 4: we're gonna need a professional covering up this acne. I think, honestly,
Speaker 4: I think that's why I think was so insane that
Speaker 4: they were like.
Speaker 6: Running jump at it at least, like.
Speaker 2: Remember makeup. I'm sure I arrived in full makeup.
Speaker 5: I was in a full face and they were like, yeah,
Speaker 5: sit down here for makeup, and I was like, what
Speaker 5: is going on? This is crazy? And I looked way
Speaker 5: better when she was done with me. But that's before.
Speaker 5: I feel like that was before everybody knew how to
Speaker 5: do their makeup, you know what I mean? Like, I
Speaker 5: feel like there was a time when I really didn't
Speaker 5: know what I was doing at all, and now I
Speaker 5: look gorgeous at.
Speaker 6: All times right now.
Speaker 5: Truly, facts, we're going to talk about comedy in a
Speaker 5: roundabout way.
Speaker 6: So if you were expecting a twenty step situation, that's
Speaker 6: not what this is.
Speaker 2: Oh, I really thought it was I thought you did
Speaker 2: have that list. I think we could make it up.
Speaker 6: Let's start with.
Speaker 5: Who was the funniest person you knew when you were like,
Speaker 5: what is the first memory of you have of somebody
Speaker 5: being like really funny to you?
Speaker 1: Gosh, that's a good question, right, Well, I know one
Speaker 1: thing is that watching I Love Lucy at my daycare.
Speaker 2: So I used to go to this daycare and it's
Speaker 2: black and.
Speaker 1: White, right, yeah, it's black and white, and I was
Speaker 1: eating sugar cereal. I would and the lady at the
Speaker 1: who ran the daycare was like a chain smoker, and
Speaker 1: I would just sit and watch I Love Lucy and
Speaker 1: I thought it was so funny. That's what's always been
Speaker 1: amazing to me when people like every ten years are like,
Speaker 1: women can't be funny?
Speaker 2: Can they be funny? Are women funny?
Speaker 1: And it's so dumb, like, but you literally can find
Speaker 1: articles about this and people wontificating if it's possible, and
Speaker 1: it's like, wait.
Speaker 4: A minute, there was all the sitcom dude, like the
Speaker 4: weird the whole point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so anyway, but I just I mean, it is crazy.
Speaker 1: Lucille Ball was so funny and it was an interracial relationship,
Speaker 1: you know, It's like, I just feel like it's so
Speaker 1: weird how things can be edgy and then.
Speaker 2: It's like all forgotten when I know later or something.
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, I would agree with you that. Uh.
Speaker 5: It feels so stupid to be having still having these
Speaker 5: conversations where you're like, are they was.
Speaker 2: Too many women in the cass The Carras Show. Would
Speaker 2: people be interested? It's like Murphy Brown.
Speaker 5: Fucking dumbasses, Carol Burnett, you know, Rose come on, idiots.
Speaker 1: Like Tisha Campbell. I mean, Tusa Campbell was so funny
Speaker 1: on Martin. I just feel like married with children.
Speaker 2: I mean, oh my god, there's been so many.
Speaker 6: There's so many, there's been so many.
Speaker 2: Obviously, I don't know why I've started off on this.
Speaker 6: I love it. This is how we're talking about it.
Speaker 6: I mean, like one of your sounds, like one of.
Speaker 5: Your earliest memories of thinking something was funny is also
Speaker 5: connected to this like current idea of like the misogynistic,
Speaker 5: shitty way that men often think about women in.
Speaker 6: Just period, like can they do it?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And also just like I mean that's funny. It's like,
Speaker 1: was the Saleball's character likable?
Speaker 6: Not necessarily you know, Oh my gosh, she was always
Speaker 6: scheming and dreaming. I loved it. I always loved when
Speaker 6: she would be trying to get into Ricky's.
Speaker 4: Shows and shit, so bad, such a bad singer, such
Speaker 4: a bad like generally like not a good uh not
Speaker 4: really a great homemaker, constantly like hiding, like how much
Speaker 4: money she was spending.
Speaker 6: Meanwhile, he was like like on the edge of abusive,
Speaker 6: like screaming at her, and like, but he was so hot.
Speaker 6: He was so hot. And you know what hotness counts
Speaker 6: for a lot, you guys, It does me.
Speaker 5: And that's the thing that's that's a shame. Anyway, That's
Speaker 5: why I know how to do my makeup now, because
Speaker 5: hotness counts.
Speaker 6: For a lot. Okay, Melissa, what was yours?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 5: When was your earliest memory of somebody being really funny?
Speaker 5: Like when you mean, like this is funny?
Speaker 6: Coincidentally, I think it was also I Love Lucy.
Speaker 4: I remember staying up as late as a kid for
Speaker 4: night nickd Night, and it was I Love Lucy. It
Speaker 4: was I dream of Geeniet too, and cheers, cheers too
Speaker 4: and cheers and those are like my very first memories
Speaker 4: of just watching something and going, oh my god, this
Speaker 4: is so funny.
Speaker 6: And good and hustling around with her little tray and
Speaker 6: her little yress. My god, the props.
Speaker 4: And then I think I also had, like I have,
Speaker 4: I have funny family members, Like people in my you know,
Speaker 4: my mom's side of the family. There's a lot of
Speaker 4: cousins and they would all come over for Christmas Eve,
Speaker 4: and you know, these are like New York Cubans who
Speaker 4: all married New York Italians and Irish and like and
Speaker 4: and everyone just like kind of like busting each other's
Speaker 4: balls and like making fun of each other and roasting
Speaker 4: each other, and like explains.
Speaker 6: A lot about you right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, everyone roasting each other is funny and that, you know,
Speaker 4: And that was like an early introduction I think for
Speaker 4: me of like that kind of humor and also of
Speaker 4: it like being like a weird like love sign too,
Speaker 4: Like you only do that with people you love, you know.
Speaker 4: You don't do that to people you don't let you
Speaker 4: don't know, and especially if you don't like them, you know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was like a family thing that, you know.
Speaker 4: I never really till I got old, or tried to
Speaker 4: do that with friends or anything.
Speaker 5: It was just like the family. Yeah, I think that's
Speaker 5: what about you stuff. I can specifically remember.
Speaker 6: My father.
Speaker 5: My dad didn't really take care of his teeth very well,
Speaker 5: and so he had like a bridge which is basically
Speaker 5: like a piece in the front, and he would take
Speaker 5: it out and like run around the house after us
Speaker 5: and like make like weird faces and be like, you know,
Speaker 5: like with his tongue like poking out through and it
Speaker 5: was so funny to me and my sister when we
Speaker 5: were little. He didn't he wasn't silly like that as
Speaker 5: we got older, but when we were really little, he
Speaker 5: was really silly like that.
Speaker 2: And then.
Speaker 5: Robin Williams in Aladdin made a huge impression on me
Speaker 5: because I just could not I couldn't wrap my brain
Speaker 5: around that that was one person doing all those I
Speaker 5: mean I could.
Speaker 4: I was like, this is one person doing all those
Speaker 4: young characters, you know, and like just thought it was
Speaker 4: the coolest, the coolest thing ever, the coolest thing ever.
Speaker 4: And then it was just like, oh, and I don't
Speaker 4: think I understood about writing and joke like, there was
Speaker 4: no I didn't understand any of that because I didn't
Speaker 4: have any world touchstones of theater plays or anything at
Speaker 4: the time. But I remember thinking that this is these
Speaker 4: are things that he thought up, like these are things
Speaker 4: that he thinks are funny, and he's doing things that
Speaker 4: he thinks are funny. Because I also remember not getting
Speaker 4: every joke and being like this is this is a
Speaker 4: that's a grown up joke and I don't know why
Speaker 4: I don't get it, but I still like it because
Speaker 4: he's doing a voice or something right. That was the
Speaker 4: first time that I which also explains a lot about me. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you've never never had it, no, I mean, and you
Speaker 4: need to see it.
Speaker 6: There are there are parts of it that have not
Speaker 6: dated so well, but.
Speaker 4: The title, there's a lot of the casting that's maybe
Speaker 4: not great, but however.
Speaker 6: It is worth it.
Speaker 4: Leaslanga in the in the lead was one of the
Speaker 4: first I think South Asian women that was ever of
Speaker 4: like a singing lead in a Disney movie, so that
Speaker 4: was a big deal. Some of the castiding not great,
Speaker 4: some of the moments not great, doesn't age well, but like.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's so good, I'll have to check it out.
Speaker 5: I feel like you just told me, like you've never
Speaker 5: like set foot in the ocean or something.
Speaker 6: I feel this is such a part of my.
Speaker 4: No, now I've built it up too much Okay, please
Speaker 4: text us after you view it, be like this is
Speaker 4: a piece of ship stuff.
Speaker 6: Yeah, pieces of garbage. No more.
Speaker 2: Bet.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say one more memory though about family,
Speaker 1: Like when you're talking about your I was thinking about
Speaker 1: my dad, Like he always like he was very straightlace looking,
Speaker 1: but he always like drew crazy people to him.
Speaker 2: And one time we were walking around in the El.
Speaker 1: Crito Plaza, which is like a mall in El Crito
Speaker 1: part of like the Bay Area, and this guy was
Speaker 1: like swearing and talking to himself and then he goes
Speaker 1: up to like as we're walking by, he says to
Speaker 1: my dad, fuck you.
Speaker 2: And my dad is like, well.
Speaker 7: Fuck you do, sir, And I started laughing so hard,
Speaker 7: Like I just like I think it's so cool that
Speaker 7: parents don't have to be squares.
Speaker 6: Yeah you know you.
Speaker 1: Can just do something weird and then your kids can
Speaker 1: see that. Like I don't know, it just really stuck
Speaker 1: with me, Like there's certain things, certain laughs from my childhood,
Speaker 1: Like one time my dad was teaching me how to
Speaker 1: ride a bike and he was being kind of a
Speaker 1: dick about it, like he was going through all these bars,
Speaker 1: like weaving through these bars, something really hard to do.
Speaker 1: If you're learning how to ride a bike.
Speaker 6: Yeah, on an obstacle course when you're.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's like, okay, take me on a slope,
Speaker 1: but you're weaving through bars, and like I was struggling
Speaker 1: to keep up with him.
Speaker 2: And then one point he's got his helmet on and
Speaker 2: he turns over his shoulder, shoulder, and he goes follow me, honey,
Speaker 2: and he thinks it's a ramp, but it stares, and
Speaker 2: so the next.
Speaker 1: Thing I see is his back, just like and then
Speaker 1: at the end, he turns and looks back and his
Speaker 1: glasses were diagonal on his face. And I cried laughing
Speaker 1: all the way home, Like as soon as I saw it,
Speaker 1: I hit my brakes and just watched the entire descent
Speaker 1: and I was crying.
Speaker 2: Laughing so hard when I got.
Speaker 1: Home, Like my stepmother was like trying to understand what
Speaker 1: happened and piece it together.
Speaker 6: But it's just so good. Oh my god, little cutie,
Speaker 6: little cutie Chills, Katie Chilsea, just fucking dying and o're
Speaker 6: it's so great.
Speaker 1: And it's so fun now like now that my son
Speaker 1: is seven, like we've been watching Beavis and butt heead, Oh.
Speaker 2: So did you did you watch that.
Speaker 6: Yeah I did.
Speaker 2: Okay, there's new seasons.
Speaker 1: Yeah what I did not know that there's there's new
Speaker 1: seasons starting in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: There's three new seasons and a new movie.
Speaker 1: And we've been watching them cracking up, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, this is the first time me and
Speaker 1: my son have been like dying laughing at something together.
Speaker 4: That's so great and it is so fun. Oh that's
Speaker 4: a good one. I'm gonna I'm gonna watch that with
Speaker 4: my boys.
Speaker 1: It really hits the spot because you know that we
Speaker 1: are in such fucking calamitous times as you uh as
Speaker 1: you know, and La is in particularly calamitous times at
Speaker 1: the moment, and it's like they just sit there and
Speaker 1: they're like.
Speaker 3: This sucks.
Speaker 2: It's like it's not just funny.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're fucking right, be this, You're right, but
Speaker 1: this fucking sucks. And it's so cathartic and.
Speaker 2: That's like, yeah, that's the whole beauty of comedy. Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I is be this and butt Head helping me through
Speaker 2: this time.
Speaker 1: I cannot tell you, but it is. And it's like
Speaker 1: everything to me right now that it's giving me a
Speaker 1: laugh when I need it.
Speaker 4: And yes, I've been watching uh A Seinfeld again from
Speaker 4: the beginning to the end, because it's.
Speaker 6: Like so stupid. It's so stupid, and everyone's such jackass
Speaker 6: and awful people, and so to me, it's like it
Speaker 6: is cathartic to watch it and be like these fucking idiots,
Speaker 6: you know, Like I just love it so much.
Speaker 4: All I watched during the pandemic was comedies. Don't tell
Speaker 4: me you've never watched Seinfeld.
Speaker 6: I really haven't. Oh bitch, what the fuck? My god,
Speaker 6: that is like believable, unbelievable.
Speaker 4: As I feel like that's so in your wheelhouse, Like
Speaker 4: I'm shocked that you haven't watched Seinfeld.
Speaker 2: I know, I see.
Speaker 1: I think it was that I lived in New York
Speaker 1: at the time, and like when I lived in New York,
Speaker 1: no one really watched TV. I went to school there.
Speaker 1: I don't remember the years of Seinfeld. But like I
Speaker 1: feel like when I was in New York, I barely
Speaker 1: watched TV. It's only la that I became like this cataloging.
Speaker 2: You watch everything you can because everyone's always asking if
Speaker 2: you watch something or another.
Speaker 6: I feel like New York there was just too much
Speaker 6: to do.
Speaker 5: There was so much access to things, whereas here in
Speaker 5: La you've got to get in. Here, in most of
Speaker 5: the United States, I would say, like you got to
Speaker 5: get in your car and like travel to the thing. Yeah,
Speaker 5: where it was like I could just be cozy and
Speaker 5: change to my gym jams and sit and watch some
Speaker 5: stuff on the couch and have a fun experience. It's
Speaker 5: a totally different lifestyle.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Morgan Sackett was a PA on Seinfeld that.
Speaker 2: He's done it all. He really really has good old,
Speaker 2: he really has sack.
Speaker 3: Sash.
Speaker 5: Morgan wouldn't listen to this one of our producers on
Speaker 5: Brooklyn and And he's really a special human being.
Speaker 6: He's worked on like every comedy that you love.
Speaker 2: Probably well, Pa, he's a golden boy.
Speaker 6: He really is.
Speaker 2: He's literally in coloring too, just sort of a golden person.
Speaker 6: He really is.
Speaker 2: He's very tan.
Speaker 4: I've never I don't think I've ever seen him laugh,
Speaker 4: which is one of my favorite things about Morgan I have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of smiley. Yeah, maybe he hates you.
Speaker 6: Maybe. Yeah, he probably doesn't like you, Melissa. Yeah, like
Speaker 6: doesn't think you're quite as funny as Chelsea.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's often scowling or kind of like moving away.
Speaker 6: From you and maybe like not making eye contact. Yeah,
Speaker 6: you guys, I think Morgan hates me. Yeah, yeah, yes,
Speaker 6: I know. At least I know now. So that's there's that.
Speaker 2: It's good to know you're powered with information.
Speaker 6: Uh, cut out that.
Speaker 4: Uh first of all, cut out me going I sais
Speaker 4: okay because I sound stupid.
Speaker 3: I like it.
Speaker 6: Keep it, keep it for cells.
Speaker 2: I like its Beavis and butead do it.
Speaker 5: They're like, Oh, first of all, if I had been
Speaker 5: able to watch that show at seven, I feel like
Speaker 5: I would have accelerated my brain quite a bit. I
Speaker 5: didn't watch it until I was in junior high.
Speaker 2: Let's it's inappropriate.
Speaker 6: It is inappropriate, but it's probably way more appropriate than
Speaker 6: a lot of stuff that's being I mean, at least
Speaker 6: they like leave the camera on or the shot on
Speaker 6: them for a long time, more than two.
Speaker 1: Seconds, and at least the animation is cool. Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: my friend's kid is watching Baby Finn all the time,
Speaker 1: and I'm like.
Speaker 6: What is that? What's the problem?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I'm like, let me be careful, let
Speaker 2: me tread carefully. Anyway.
Speaker 1: The point being, I, me and Jordan when bo is
Speaker 1: watching something, we'll be like we don't like this animation style.
Speaker 2: We don't like Yeastrong like Tumblief.
Speaker 1: Is the ship if anyone's parents, It's stop motion, it's Canadian.
Speaker 2: It's magical, it's beautiful.
Speaker 4: I was really mad at my kids for not getting
Speaker 4: into the n I don't know, rush on them so hard.
Speaker 5: And ros got really freaked out at Watson Grammitt. I
Speaker 5: tried to show I love Watson Grammitt, like to an
Speaker 5: obsessive place.
Speaker 2: It's just really funny, right.
Speaker 6: It's hilarious.
Speaker 5: Rozz watched one part of one movie screamed and ran
Speaker 5: out of the room and I was like, oh, oh no,
Speaker 5: I mean you can try again, and like a yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: to be fair, she's still little, yeah, but yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: We just watched Peewee Peele's Playoffs or Pee's Big Adventure
Speaker 1: Yes with bo and like he didn't like it a
Speaker 1: while ago, a couple of years ago.
Speaker 6: But now he's into it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I forgot how mean Pee Wee was to people.
Speaker 5: It's so funny, Okay, such a little bitch, so funny, so.
Speaker 1: Funny is it's like my favorite thing I think is
Speaker 1: nerdy ego, like because you know, it's like Beavis and
Speaker 1: Butt heead is the same thing. They're these high status losers,
Speaker 1: and I just love it so much. It's like, yes,
Speaker 1: they're dumb, but they're also bucking against the status quo
Speaker 1: in a way that is so satisfying and funny. So
Speaker 1: it's like you can both be with them and against
Speaker 1: them as you watch, and it's like it's such an
Speaker 1: amazing like tone that they've I'm sorry that I'm obsessing.
Speaker 6: No, I love that you're talking about this. I never
Speaker 6: thought about it.
Speaker 2: It's almost like I'm on the show.
Speaker 1: How much I'm promoting it, I'm like everyone I see it,
Speaker 1: like you did you know there's new seasons?
Speaker 2: But no one knows there's new seasons and it makes
Speaker 2: me crazy. You did?
Speaker 6: You're my judge is Beas and Budhead.
Speaker 4: Yeah, did you start with the older seasons or did
Speaker 4: you start? You started with the new seasons.
Speaker 6: Information for me to have.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this doesn't result in you doing a guest spot
Speaker 4: on the new b.
Speaker 2: I don't know where will, I don't know why will.
Speaker 6: This is now the new goal of this episode.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I do remember Daria being introduced in the original series.
Speaker 6: Butt Head, Yeah, there was.
Speaker 2: I didn't know what it was.
Speaker 5: She was introduced in the originals buttead series, and then
Speaker 5: she got her own show that was like right after
Speaker 5: in the time period, which was like much more of
Speaker 5: a cartoon because in the original Beavis and but it
Speaker 5: was just them talking about the videos.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and then the actual.
Speaker 5: Daria was introduced after and that was like, I was like,
Speaker 5: what am I what planet of my own?
Speaker 6: I love this so much. I loved Daria so much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, who was the voice of Daria.
Speaker 6: It's a great question.
Speaker 2: It feels very right like it should have.
Speaker 6: But whoever it was did a great job as well.
Speaker 6: They did.
Speaker 1: I don't think I watched watched Daria, but I like,
Speaker 1: there's not that many characters on Vis and butt Head.
Speaker 2: It's really just me.
Speaker 6: It's just the two of them, and then like them.
Speaker 2: Just hitting each other in the nards.
Speaker 4: And yeah, it's kind of the and then saying you
Speaker 4: said nerds, you're right though, it is like it is
Speaker 4: a character that characters that they're absolutely then that might
Speaker 4: be why I like parts of Seinfeld because they are,
Speaker 4: like you said, like high status, Like George is a
Speaker 4: high status loser he thinks see and to some of
Speaker 4: Saint Jerry, I mean really all of them because really
Speaker 4: all that they are fantastic, wonderful people. Meanwhile, they're horrendous
Speaker 4: human beings like yes of the time, which is why
Speaker 4: they've all found each other in our besties.
Speaker 1: And it's so cool, Like, I mean, the little that
Speaker 1: I do know about Seinfeld, I do love it as
Speaker 1: this like that that Larry David started on that and
Speaker 1: then got to have Curb is such a fun like
Speaker 1: such a fascinating comedy evolution, because yes, you can see
Speaker 1: the roots of Curve and Seinfeld.
Speaker 6: It seems absolutely well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like the joke was already established, Like he
Speaker 4: didn't have to work to set anything up. It was
Speaker 4: like the tone and the humor and that that was
Speaker 4: already He also didn't have.
Speaker 6: To pretend to be a good person. And you know,
Speaker 6: like that was the word the workshop of that network,
Speaker 6: the network. You know, we can't have them be that horrible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone already knew and it was going to be
Speaker 1: and then set free into HBO to be like, you know, his.
Speaker 2: Own even more quirky mons monster.
Speaker 6: He's a monster.
Speaker 5: So I don't actually know him, but on his show,
Speaker 5: and I don't know him.
Speaker 7: I don't know him.
Speaker 6: I don't I don't know him. I don't know him.
Speaker 5: He's probably very nice. He's got a lot of nice friends. Okay,
Speaker 5: so this is a question. I don't know about this,
Speaker 5: and this makes me feel like an interview. But like
Speaker 5: the thing, one of the things I hated when we
Speaker 5: were on the show was when we would have interviews
Speaker 5: and they'd be like, what's your funniest memory?
Speaker 2: Pranks?
Speaker 6: Oh my god, plans Like I always hated that.
Speaker 1: It's so funny. It's like it's not enough that it's
Speaker 1: a comedy show.
Speaker 6: They wanted to have to be even more funny.
Speaker 2: A prank show behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it made me always feel like we were disappointing
Speaker 1: people that we weren't pulling these crazy pranks every time.
Speaker 5: Absolutely it was, But it was more disappointing them that
Speaker 5: they didn't have like a little you know, byeline for
Speaker 5: their article that was clickbaity.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what they were trying. That's really all it was.
Speaker 5: I do remember being at TCA's one year and there
Speaker 5: were like posters of us by the sushi.
Speaker 3: Do you remember that?
Speaker 2: No, God, you have the best memory, and like these.
Speaker 4: She really has the best memory. I don't remember, you guys,
Speaker 4: anything to.
Speaker 2: See a poster of me by some sushi right now.
Speaker 6: Oh my god.
Speaker 5: It was like we were so TCA's was a Television
Speaker 5: Critics Association thing. I think it was TCA's, or maybe
Speaker 5: it was Upfronts, Upfronts or this thing that doesn't really
Speaker 5: happen anymore, where they would sell the show to.
Speaker 4: They would present their schedule advertisers to advertise turning us
Speaker 4: all out.
Speaker 5: Anyway, it was like a thing we had to get
Speaker 5: dressed up for a red carpet and then they shuffle
Speaker 5: us into this like big room where they have all
Speaker 5: the advertisers or whatever, and there were like buffet tables,
Speaker 5: and there was a posters of the cast like hanging
Speaker 5: in different iterations above the sushi, and there was one
Speaker 5: of like I think I have a picture of it somewhere.
Speaker 5: If I can find it, I'm gonna put it on
Speaker 5: the Instagram. But there's like a poster of Chelsea and
Speaker 5: then like a poster of Terry Creuse next to it,
Speaker 5: and then there's like the sushi thing underneath.
Speaker 2: It that sounds that does sound vaguely familiar, you know what.
Speaker 1: I never I tried never to eat sushi at a
Speaker 1: Hollywood party or.
Speaker 2: Because it's virus.
Speaker 1: It's always sweating, it's always get too touched, and it's
Speaker 1: been out in the warm air too long.
Speaker 6: That's a good rule.
Speaker 2: That's a good rule.
Speaker 6: I don't know what's for, you know. I might have
Speaker 6: embellished that it was sushi for purposes of the comedic
Speaker 6: idea of it. Cards is crumbling, crumbling, But I don't
Speaker 6: have memories of like this was a super funny day
Speaker 6: or anything like that. I do remember there were a
Speaker 6: couple times where Chelsea had trouble holding it together on camera.
Speaker 2: It's feeling, honestly, because you know, I think I thought
Speaker 2: when I would go to Hollywood that, like you know,
Speaker 2: when you see outtakes of things, you're like, oh, they're
Speaker 2: having so much fun.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like I.
Speaker 1: Really thought people would enjoy if like things became really
Speaker 1: organic and fun, you know, like if you're losing it, crying,
Speaker 1: laughing like I did.
Speaker 2: Nicole Buyer sho oh my god, nailed it, nailed it.
Speaker 6: It's so funny, God damn it, it's so funny.
Speaker 2: She's so funny, and I did it, and like it
Speaker 2: was a twelve hour day, or her day.
Speaker 1: Is a twelve hour day, I think, But it was
Speaker 1: a long, and like he says, I was crying laughing
Speaker 1: at one point, and like it was so funny to me,
Speaker 1: Like how hard is it to cry laughing?
Speaker 2: To me?
Speaker 1: That is like the happiest most That is like the
Speaker 1: best drug on earth is getting to a point where
Speaker 1: you're crying laughing, yes, which I did have recently actually
Speaker 1: at a dinner, but they cut it, they didn't use it,
Speaker 1: and I was just like, I am just my comedy
Speaker 1: self is just like how this is so crazy to
Speaker 1: be crying on nailed It? You know, listen, they know
Speaker 1: obviously what's better for the show than I do. But
Speaker 1: I just was like I was looking forward to reliving it.
Speaker 6: You know, God, do you remember what it was about.
Speaker 6: Was it about one of the cakes?
Speaker 2: I think it really was.
Speaker 1: I have this thing which a lot of comedians have,
Speaker 1: I think, which is like sequences of sounds just really
Speaker 1: get me. Like so it was like someone said, nailed it.
Speaker 1: They hit the button, so it was like nailed it, bud,
Speaker 1: and then the thing clunks open and it was so
Speaker 1: ugly and it was so unlike the original, which it
Speaker 1: always is, so it shouldn't be surprising, but it was
Speaker 1: something about.
Speaker 2: Nailed it plunk and then just seeing this monstrosity. I
Speaker 2: think it was that, but again I'll never know for
Speaker 2: sure because the tape has gone.
Speaker 6: For a guy.
Speaker 1: But I'm at this dinner I had to I was
Speaker 1: like having I thought like heart palpitations a bit ago,
Speaker 1: and my doctor gave me this heart monitor and they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you just wear it for like what it was humongous,
Speaker 1: Like I thought it was just like a little thing.
Speaker 1: It's like medical tape across my entire chest. Like you
Speaker 1: can't wear it even like a shirt like this.
Speaker 2: It was like showing.
Speaker 1: And so I'm like dinner with some friends and it's showing.
Speaker 1: And then you're supposed to press this button on your
Speaker 1: chest anytime you feel like you're having a heart palatine,
Speaker 1: which let's just say, isn't it.
Speaker 2: So vibe at dinner? You're right, And so they were
Speaker 2: just making fun of me because also you're supposed to
Speaker 2: keep a journal about every time you press it. And
Speaker 2: I showed them my journal and it was like ten
Speaker 2: o and they were just making fun of my dorky
Speaker 2: heart palpitation journal and just roasting the.
Speaker 1: Shit out of me, and I was just, oh my god,
Speaker 1: it was I just like I lived for these moments
Speaker 1: to me like it's like I cannot wait until the
Speaker 1: next because.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, I haven't had on in so long.
Speaker 6: Maybe this is why I feel like slightly not unfulfilled,
Speaker 6: but like I need that is. It is such a
Speaker 6: good drug. It makes you feel so high for so long.
Speaker 6: Oh I did have one.
Speaker 4: I actually did have one the other night because Brad
Speaker 4: was playing a new game with Ras and he was
Speaker 4: looking at the instructions and then she spun the little
Speaker 4: dial and he looked.
Speaker 6: At me and my mom. He was like, what's a
Speaker 6: lois yes?
Speaker 2: And we were like what.
Speaker 6: He goes lais yes it and then he holds up
Speaker 6: the thing and it said lose a piece. He was like,
Speaker 6: the instructions were in Spanish. Dumb, dumb. God bless him
Speaker 6: for trying. You're like gold star, gold star, baby. Poor Brad.
Speaker 6: He's so used to living in an environment.
Speaker 5: It was like a little like a tea like a
Speaker 5: like a little tea cup game and there was a
Speaker 5: little picture of bees and he was like, is it honey?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 6: Does it have something to do with honey?
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, that is so funny. You need
Speaker 2: to keep that in rotation in the house.
Speaker 1: We have.
Speaker 6: We have kept it in a bit of rotation. Sweet Brad.
Speaker 2: Shout out to Brad, shout out to the stacket of.
Speaker 4: All these white guys. Yes they really are.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 5: Wait, okay, So what I want to talk about really quickly, Uh,
Speaker 5: the film that you directed the first time female director. Yes,
Speaker 5: that the experience of watching the movie, I know was
Speaker 5: probably I didn't direct it, but I'm sure the actual
Speaker 5: experience of directing it was fucking stressful as fuck, But
Speaker 5: the experience of watching it is so it had so
Speaker 5: many of these elements that felt so surreal and really
Speaker 5: funny to me in a way that like, I guess,
Speaker 5: I don't know, I hope they were.
Speaker 6: I mean I was laughing like that.
Speaker 5: I don't want to give anything away if anyone hasn't
Speaker 5: seen it, But there's this part at the end where
Speaker 5: Chelsea's stand Chelsea's character is standing by a window and
Speaker 5: it's fucking I was. I thought it was so it
Speaker 5: was such an interesting mix to me of like really
Speaker 5: like sort of poignant but also really funny to me.
Speaker 6: And there was another moment where Chelsea's character has this
Speaker 6: big uh I don't know what to call it. It's
Speaker 6: not like a I guess it's like a melt down.
Speaker 6: And it was alternately like really moving and also really
Speaker 6: fucking funny.
Speaker 2: What you're welcome, Well, listen, you know it means a
Speaker 2: lot coming from you because I, as you know, think
Speaker 2: you're a fucking genius. And you know what, if I
Speaker 2: really could cry right now, I'm too.
Speaker 5: This is what everybody doesn't know about people that are funny.
Speaker 5: It's cover your face. This is the other thing that
Speaker 5: people don't understand. I think, like if to me, people
Speaker 5: that are really deeply funny, they think about the thing
Speaker 5: that they're creating, and they really like craft and create.
Speaker 5: And when you have a meeting that's also a storyteller,
Speaker 5: it can be really intricate and strong thing for that
Speaker 5: comedian storyteller to like have a point of view and
Speaker 5: a voice. And I think that that's something that Chelsea.
Speaker 6: Has and does really really well.
Speaker 5: But it's also something that I don't totally understand how
Speaker 5: you craft something like that. I think I could probably
Speaker 5: do it if I was like given the script of it,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like I'm not a writer.
Speaker 2: Well, I you know, I personally don't really as I
Speaker 2: dig in my ear on camera.
Speaker 6: I don't really.
Speaker 2: There it is. There might be wax in my ear.
Speaker 2: Let me just invest, lem me do it right now.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: When I have friends who I think are funny and
Speaker 1: heartfelt and they say that they're not a writer, I'm like,
Speaker 1: not yet, because I.
Speaker 2: Feel like why not?
Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, I think Also it's like
Speaker 1: my mom really nurtured me to write when I was younger,
Speaker 1: and to like think of writing as expressing myself and
Speaker 1: telling stories. And it's like, I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: chicken her egg like that I like to write. Maybe
Speaker 1: I would have anyway, but I really do think like
Speaker 1: before you've tried it, who knows you might really be
Speaker 1: great at it and might love it. And also it's
Speaker 1: like you might have a story to tell that someone
Speaker 1: else doesn't have to tell. And a lot of writing
Speaker 1: does come down to that. Like what I loved about
Speaker 1: writers rooms is like so much of writing is not,
Speaker 1: you know, sitting at a desk with a typewriter, but
Speaker 1: it's so much of it is the brainstorming and like
Speaker 1: the collaborative thinking and riffing and going on weird tangents
Speaker 1: that that leads you to something and I'm a big
Speaker 1: believer that you know, as you mentioned, like my movie,
Speaker 1: I love those tangential moments and I love, like, you know,
Speaker 1: the uber ride where my character gets a female uber driver,
Speaker 1: Like that's one of my favorite scenes. My favorite characters
Speaker 1: are probably the smallest characters, is like the Techi dudes.
Speaker 2: That's like Carmen Christopher and like those characters are just
Speaker 2: like the techie rage.
Speaker 1: You know, I really relate to of like, and I've
Speaker 1: experienced it so much, like doing theater and stuff and
Speaker 1: all through basically since I was like nine. And anyway,
Speaker 1: all this to say I appreciate it. I feel like
Speaker 1: I didn't know exactly how to promote it. It's on Broku,
Speaker 1: which I feel like a lot of people think they
Speaker 1: have to buy the apparatus, but you can watch it
Speaker 1: online and it's called first time female director. Stephanie's in
Speaker 1: it and does this awesome like theater piece within the
Speaker 1: within the play, because it's all.
Speaker 2: There's two plays in the movie.
Speaker 5: I can't tell you how many plays that I did
Speaker 5: in college that were almost exactly like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, well I went to see a show at
Speaker 1: my brothers. He went to UC Santa Cruz and I
Speaker 1: went to see a play that had this these people
Speaker 1: yelling suck my dick and make me a coffee, and
Speaker 1: I was again another moment.
Speaker 2: Where I was crying laughing in the theater.
Speaker 1: Like my shoulders were shaken because it wasn't a funny
Speaker 1: scene and I was like crying laughing.
Speaker 4: Was there was there anything about directing comedy that surprised you,
Speaker 4: like if you were trying.
Speaker 1: To well, that's what I was going to say, you know,
Speaker 1: honestly when you were saying like, was it so stressful?
Speaker 1: And I think it was, but it was so nice
Speaker 1: because as you know, as actors, it's like there's so
Speaker 1: much waiting and acting. And what I loved about directing
Speaker 1: is that you're and Melissa, as you know, you've you've
Speaker 1: directed so much television at this point, it's like, what
Speaker 1: I love about the directing experience is that there's just
Speaker 1: constant action, constant decision making. You're using your brain NonStop,
Speaker 1: and that kind of adrenaline is really fun. And I
Speaker 1: was surprised that I felt like I had fixes to
Speaker 1: things and solutions and thoughts when I was asked questions, and.
Speaker 2: You know, there's there's I made a whole list of
Speaker 2: like everything.
Speaker 1: I learned from the experience after I wrapped, and I
Speaker 1: continue to learn about it as I have more distance
Speaker 1: from it and think about it and all that. But
Speaker 1: you know, maybe I should have been more stressed, and
Speaker 1: maybe I should have had less fun. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I certainly I certainly learned a lot about how
Speaker 1: I would do it next time. But but TV versus
Speaker 1: directing a movie, it's just it's so amazing because it
Speaker 1: was like also very small budget, and it was kind
Speaker 1: of like, you know, a month of summer camp and
Speaker 1: then it's over. Post production I felt, was probably the
Speaker 1: hardest part of it all, but I kind of loved
Speaker 1: pre production and the actual shooting of it. I think
Speaker 1: that editing was for me the hardest.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think that everything that you're talking about sounds really fun,
Speaker 5: except for the thinking about how.
Speaker 6: They have to be shot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I really wish that I had storyboarded, And
Speaker 1: that's my biggest regret. I really should have foregone something
Speaker 1: else in the budget, But honestly, I didn't know enough
Speaker 1: to even fight for that. Right well, I think like
Speaker 1: it'll be like TV a little bit, and then there'll
Speaker 1: be improv and it doesn't have to look you know,
Speaker 1: I wanted it to have moments that look amazing and stuff,
Speaker 1: but you know, I just think a storyboard would have
Speaker 1: been an absolute obviously a massive asset.
Speaker 2: And yeah, it's interesting though.
Speaker 1: I was talking to Mike Sure about it, and he
Speaker 1: was like, I don't really like storyboarding for comedy.
Speaker 2: I think people get too like married to what. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so I mean, who knows. Maybe it's just.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just a thing where you just trial and
Speaker 1: error on multiple projects until you figure out like your
Speaker 1: best system.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 6: I feel like it must be because like that's that's
Speaker 6: how oh it felt.
Speaker 5: I mean, at least in what I can compare it
Speaker 5: to like acting, it's like, okay, well I trial an error,
Speaker 5: like what works or what has been working? And I
Speaker 5: haven't made a list, but I guess I have been
Speaker 5: making a list in my mind and my whole career,
Speaker 5: like what works with this kind of actor?
Speaker 6: Like what works in this what works for me? Like
Speaker 6: right now, like oh, I tried.
Speaker 5: You know, I've done the thing where I keep to
Speaker 5: myself and like you know, focus in on my own thing.
Speaker 6: And it's like that doesn't really serve me as much.
Speaker 5: I like, I think the thing that serves me when
Speaker 5: I have something emotional to do is like keep it,
Speaker 5: like keep it loose and then give myself a few
Speaker 5: minutes before the scene. But I don't need to be
Speaker 5: like with my head up my ass like all day
Speaker 5: in my trailer, like staying in character or whatever. Right,
Speaker 5: But like all that stuff is trial and error.
Speaker 6: Because I have done that before. I did it for
Speaker 6: a play once and it was everyone fucking hated me
Speaker 6: at the end of the play, everybody.
Speaker 2: But that's kind of me. That's like real actor credential,
Speaker 2: is it.
Speaker 6: I was like trying I was trying it on for size.
Speaker 4: I was like, maybe this is the thing that will work,
Speaker 4: that will help me maintain And maybe it was at
Speaker 4: the time, because it was like I had to maintain
Speaker 4: this like very heightened emotional center of the play for
Speaker 4: like yeah, six months, right.
Speaker 6: And so like backstage I wouldn't talk to anybody and
Speaker 6: like get to work and put on my little nun
Speaker 6: habit and then that was it.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 1: And it's like I feel like we have to like
Speaker 1: forgive ourselves for all our whole process and or not
Speaker 1: just forgive ourselves and maybe even applaud ourselves.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's like there's no fucking handbook to life, period and
Speaker 1: I'm still confused about that. But also just to entertainment,
Speaker 1: there's so many situations you walk into having never been
Speaker 1: in them before.
Speaker 4: Over and over just new situations are always.
Speaker 2: Am I progressing? Am I doing this right? How do
Speaker 2: other people do this?
Speaker 1: And you know, it's it's so much less explained than
Speaker 1: you would think before God in.
Speaker 4: This business, and so much of it is what you
Speaker 4: were saying of just like trying shit on, trying shit out,
Speaker 4: like seeing if it works for you and looking like
Speaker 4: a fucking idiot while you do it. But that's how
Speaker 4: you kind of thinkure. Also, I'm bringing it back around
Speaker 4: to comedy, that is mostly, but that is mostly what
Speaker 4: comedy becomes. Right, It's like this funny is this funny?
Speaker 4: Let me try this, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: change and you have to like go, like.
Speaker 2: You really have to let go of like do I
Speaker 2: look dumb? Oh?
Speaker 6: You absolutely do?
Speaker 1: You know? And and I think that when you sense
Speaker 1: that kind of abandon in like thinking of like you know,
Speaker 1: Chris Farley was the first person who just came to mind.
Speaker 1: But people who just fully go like go in and
Speaker 1: or guild a radner. You know, I don't know, I'm
Speaker 1: just thinking of people from eighty years ago, but you know,
Speaker 1: it's like it's unmistakable when you feel like people are
Speaker 1: abandoning themselves to a character.
Speaker 5: And I think I love learned a lot of that
Speaker 5: on Brooklyn m I remember when we shot that scene
Speaker 5: at my desk.
Speaker 6: That was when Chelsea went.
Speaker 2: Clup clup, clup clup.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she was like, I'm gonna ride away on my
Speaker 4: high horse clip clop clip clop or something, and I
Speaker 4: remember fucking thinking that was so funny and it wasn't
Speaker 4: in the script, and I was like, oh, I didn't
Speaker 4: know we could, Like.
Speaker 6: I don't know what script.
Speaker 4: I don't think it was clop. I don't think you
Speaker 4: clopping away was like I don't think. I think it
Speaker 4: was like maybe like road away.
Speaker 2: Like this or something.
Speaker 5: But clop clop wasn't in the script. I don't clip
Speaker 5: clop was on this whatever the fuck she says. I
Speaker 5: can't remember it now. I just remember your face, you
Speaker 5: going like this with your little hands, and like I
Speaker 5: also remember thinking like oh, oh, okay, okayme like I
Speaker 5: can play the same way here that I did in theater.
Speaker 5: Like theater felt very free, it felt very like, uh,
Speaker 5: the experience of rehearsal was like throw everything at it
Speaker 5: and like see what this is, and see what this is,
Speaker 5: and tried this and tried this, and like when I
Speaker 5: got on TV set, it felt very locked in and
Speaker 5: it was like, you only have like four times that
Speaker 5: you get to do this, so like make it, make it.
Speaker 5: You know, like you have to end, you have to
Speaker 5: match everything that you did on the first time, because
Speaker 5: well we did it in the wide, so you got
Speaker 5: to do that thing that you already chose to do.
Speaker 5: And I was just so like, yeah, locked into everything.
Speaker 5: And then when I saw people starting to try stuff,
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, oh, we can do that here too.
Speaker 5: You just have to be like a little more careful,
Speaker 5: but also not because like if they really love something,
Speaker 5: maybe they'll turn around and go back and shoot the
Speaker 5: beginning a different way.
Speaker 1: Whenever Andy, like Andy also started making that fun where
Speaker 1: he would be like, let's do this or let's do that.
Speaker 2: Something, give us like that sense that we could be
Speaker 2: inventive and stuff.
Speaker 1: And remember when we were in that scene where you
Speaker 1: guys were just supposed to hug and I was standing there, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like I also hug.
Speaker 2: I'm like, this bitch has no friends. I'm like, can
Speaker 2: I lose joined the hug? And then I feel like
Speaker 2: people really love that.
Speaker 4: We all, Oh my god, they love so I love
Speaker 4: the way you the look on your face when you
Speaker 4: like throw yourself into it, when you're like it's so great.
Speaker 5: That's also something that I find about comedy that I
Speaker 5: think is really fun. Sometimes it becomes like fun and frustrating,
Speaker 5: I should say, because like sometimes it becomes like a
Speaker 5: problem that you're trying to solve, which is like this
Speaker 5: feels stupid, Like.
Speaker 6: I feel it's not working.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it feels fucking stupid and I feel stupid
Speaker 5: doing it, like I need to change it, you know,
Speaker 5: And it's not I can't always combat it that way
Speaker 5: at work, Like sometimes.
Speaker 6: I have to be like what if we what if
Speaker 6: we can?
Speaker 3: I try?
Speaker 1: You know, I have to say, like from directing, like
Speaker 1: I fucking love comedy brains and like people have the
Speaker 1: craziest ideas.
Speaker 2: Like Jermaine Fowler is in my movie and he was like, uh,
Speaker 2: is it cool.
Speaker 1: If I roll around in a pile of cords and
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, absolutely, And then Heather.
Speaker 2: Lawless, who was the female uber Zoomer.
Speaker 1: Driver in the movie, she was like, isn't all right
Speaker 1: if I have band aids all over my fingers?
Speaker 2: And I was like, yes, that would be great, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, I love that shit, and I
Speaker 1: think it's such a tragedy and you know, listen, it's
Speaker 1: all debatable. Maybe people don't think it worked out in
Speaker 1: my movie, but like, I just feel like when people
Speaker 1: in often in Hollywood, are so I think, particularly post
Speaker 1: Jim Carrey post like, you know, these big swing kind
Speaker 1: of big comedies that were big in my teen years,
Speaker 1: and then like Martin, Jim Carrey, Mike Myers, all these
Speaker 1: people like yeah, post that, when it became much smaller
Speaker 1: and much more naturalistic. I think there became this thing
Speaker 1: like if you take a big swing, then your corny, right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So when.
Speaker 1: Someone has a big idea there being a tension seeking
Speaker 1: and just tell them no, and you know, it's like, listen,
Speaker 1: I grew up on that shit and I love it.
Speaker 1: I love the more subtle, more naturalistic comedies that came
Speaker 1: after that as well. But you know what I was
Speaker 1: trying to do in my movie was kind of married
Speaker 1: the two. You know, it's like I love Rushmore, but
Speaker 1: I also love like you.
Speaker 2: Know, absolutely sure.
Speaker 5: I think you know, as somebody who watched you guys
Speaker 5: take so many big swings on the show on Brooklyn
Speaker 5: for so long. Like part of what became especially towards
Speaker 5: the end for me frustrating for myself at work, was
Speaker 5: that like I I didn't get to do it, you know,
Speaker 5: like I didn't. I was always the straight.
Speaker 2: Man and like so interesting because I don't think of
Speaker 2: you that way.
Speaker 5: No, I don't know, I got more at that, especially
Speaker 5: like as we went like yeah, the season's like went
Speaker 5: like last season though, when you had the baby, especially,
Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, allowed.
Speaker 6: To lose it in ways that I hadn't or like
Speaker 6: the last season when I got to that's.
Speaker 2: Regularly.
Speaker 1: But like but remember Andre, like Andre would always be
Speaker 1: like try and step there there, like do less.
Speaker 6: All the time.
Speaker 4: But then some of the biggest things were the biggest hits,
Speaker 4: like Vindication, remember right, Vindication, He did that.
Speaker 6: He did that so big and they kept.
Speaker 4: I can't remember who directed that episode, but like somebody
Speaker 4: kept saying to him, like a little you know, it's
Speaker 4: the end of the episode, but like just just like vindication,
Speaker 4: like quick so we can get out. And he was like,
Speaker 4: I don't think so like you anything, like I don't
Speaker 4: think that's as quite as funny as blah blah blah,
Speaker 4: you know, And he was right.
Speaker 2: But that's one thing too with his character.
Speaker 1: It's like this amazing thing where like the drier he
Speaker 1: is and the more dead pan when he when you
Speaker 1: choose your spots for him to guess crazy, it's so effective.
Speaker 5: Yes, which again, like that became very clear to me
Speaker 5: when I would feel that frustration like oh gosh, I
Speaker 5: want to do like physical comedy or I want to
Speaker 5: do more of the stuff, I would I would think
Speaker 5: about how, like, well, part of the part of why
Speaker 5: this works for my character to break out of that
Speaker 5: is because she's in she's locked into this like dry
Speaker 5: quiet so much.
Speaker 6: So like when I get to do that stuff, it's extra,
Speaker 6: it's extra.
Speaker 1: I mean I think you see that all the time.
Speaker 1: I mean I still see fans on social media like
Speaker 1: this is Rosa. She's smiling, you know.
Speaker 2: It's like yeah, it's like you know, I'm thinking of
Speaker 2: that that episode where we were like undercover and.
Speaker 6: You were like, oh, my god with the blonde wig.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's like you're you're exterior allowed moments like that
Speaker 1: to be so much more like of a surprise and
Speaker 1: a little treat.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: It's like, yes, yes, so it hits so much harder.
Speaker 4: But I also loved when you were on the stand
Speaker 4: and you had to do the like eye twist thing. Yes,
Speaker 4: that's I also.
Speaker 5: Think that that's like part of of part of learning
Speaker 5: about yourself as a as an actor.
Speaker 6: And somebody who's curious about comedy is like, oh.
Speaker 5: Well, I don't have to it doesn't have to be
Speaker 5: you know, because you see, like younger I think like
Speaker 5: younger actors a lot.
Speaker 6: Will be like let me try for every.
Speaker 5: Joke, right, But then maybe I should say less experienced
Speaker 5: actors sometimes we'll try for every joke and as opposed
Speaker 5: to someone who's like willing to play in a scene
Speaker 5: and like give it back and forth to you or
Speaker 5: like setting you up for something really funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well.
Speaker 1: That's you know, that is like such a fascinating thing too.
Speaker 1: It's like when you're in a scene with someone in
Speaker 1: comedy and it's like, you know, I love to improvise,
Speaker 1: but it is like it's a tricky thing, like you
Speaker 1: need both people to love to improvise, yes, because I
Speaker 1: didn't really realize, like, oh, I'm putting people in a
Speaker 1: position where they've memorized their lines and now they don't
Speaker 1: know what to say or where we are in the
Speaker 1: scene or whatever. But like you know, Nick Kroll, when
Speaker 1: I would do Kroll Show, we would just go completely
Speaker 1: bonkers and like it would be it would be so fun.
Speaker 1: But that's a completely different animal, like a sketch show
Speaker 1: than a network comedy show with great writing.
Speaker 4: And have you ever have you ever had a day
Speaker 4: where and I'll use improv as I guess the setting.
Speaker 5: I know what you're going to talk about right now,
Speaker 5: and you just like lives in Melissa's memory as like
Speaker 5: a fucking it's burned in her brain.
Speaker 6: It's burned. Tell her the backstory. Oh yeah, when my
Speaker 6: brain felt empty. Yes, I was, Uh, I was.
Speaker 4: I said yes to doing a show at I think
Speaker 4: Groundlings or I think it was ground Links.
Speaker 6: You know, it's like I guess after or whatever.
Speaker 2: I regret saying yes to every show.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, And it was during the strikes, and you know,
Speaker 4: and so I'm on my way to the show and
Speaker 4: as I'm on my way to the show, I'm like,
Speaker 4: my brain feels empty. I don't have a funny bone
Speaker 4: in my fucking body.
Speaker 6: And then I was like, that's maybe I talk.
Speaker 4: Maybe I'm depressed, maybe like there's some other shit going
Speaker 4: on that I'm ignoring, and but now I'm realizing it
Speaker 4: and I'm going to be on stage in like a
Speaker 4: half hour, and so like I like got there and
Speaker 4: I parked, and then I listened to a five minute
Speaker 4: meditation for like creativity or something like I was desperate,
Speaker 4: and it wasn't a great show for me, Like it
Speaker 4: just I felt like my brain was offline. There was
Speaker 4: no creative thoughts coming in at all, Like the well
Speaker 4: was dry. So I'm curious if that's ever happened to.
Speaker 2: You, Melissa. I mean, this is why I love you.
Speaker 1: Like, first of all, I'm just so happy to see
Speaker 1: you guys, Like I know, I like almost but I
Speaker 1: have to just say, like, it's not because just simply
Speaker 1: like you talking about my movie. It's just that I've
Speaker 1: literally been we went the Christmas break straight into a
Speaker 1: week of school canceled for the fires, and I've been
Speaker 1: in such mom mode that for someone to talk to
Speaker 1: me about my work. Frankly, I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I exist, I'm a human, I have fuller purpose in life.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Whatever like jolted me into this different part of my body,
Speaker 1: brain and soul. And you know, on a personal level,
Speaker 1: I'm just truly, like so happy to be talking to
Speaker 1: you guys.
Speaker 2: But what I was going to say is I just
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 1: Love your vulnerability and it's what's connected me to you
Speaker 1: from day one, both of you that you're ap to
Speaker 1: just be in a producorial phony facade every day, which
Speaker 1: some people in Hollywood feel like they just put a
Speaker 1: mask on and they you can't get through to them.
Speaker 1: And yes, I I you know, my stand up was
Speaker 1: it was challenging for me to do it while on
Speaker 1: the show because my call times were always six thirty.
Speaker 2: Remember I've always waltz in at fucking.
Speaker 4: With this little fucking coffee be like hey, Gus, ten
Speaker 4: minutes before we have to be on set.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it was so hard to continue with
Speaker 1: stand up and have those early call times because stand
Speaker 1: up I would get so wired after doing shows and
Speaker 1: usually you're.
Speaker 2: Not home till like ten earliest.
Speaker 1: Right, But so yeah, I think I've developed like a
Speaker 1: stage fright that's gotten only worse as I've gotten further
Speaker 1: from it. And I often if I say yes to
Speaker 1: a show, I will be in anxiety about it for
Speaker 1: like starting and I used to be like this anyways,
Speaker 1: like usually around three o'clock if I have a show
Speaker 1: that night, I'm start to have a pit in my stomach.
Speaker 1: And so yes, as I'm driving to shows, and I
Speaker 1: remember talking to a friend about it and being like,
Speaker 1: you know, before shows, before I go on stage, I'm like,
Speaker 1: the person who's on stage right now is funny.
Speaker 2: I have nothing to say. They like this vibe. I'm
Speaker 2: not that vibe.
Speaker 1: And when you're telling me what you're thinking in the car,
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, it's comforting because it's like you're
Speaker 1: literally giving yourself a negative pep talk. You're saying, my
Speaker 1: brain is empty, and therefore my brain will be empty.
Speaker 1: You know. It's like, yeah, you know, And you gave
Speaker 1: yourself that TLC of listening to a meditation and then
Speaker 1: you're retelling it and you're accepting, Hey, not every show
Speaker 1: is going to be your fucking best work, and that's fine,
Speaker 1: that's part of life.
Speaker 2: How could it all be fucking top notch?
Speaker 1: Perfect and it's part of this process that we keep
Speaker 1: talking about or whatever. And it's like, yes, I feel
Speaker 1: that way all the time. And this friend was like, really,
Speaker 1: that's what you say on the way to shows. Like
Speaker 1: I'm literally going, you're gonna kill it. You're gonna kill it.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, I guess I need therapy. I
Speaker 1: somehow have not been instilled with self love in that way.
Speaker 1: But it's a great motivator and it's a great driver,
Speaker 1: but it's also very paralyzing. And so it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: and this business is so unhealthy in so many ways
Speaker 1: if you're trying to improve your self love. So you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's been an ongoing journey and I'm still trying
Speaker 1: to figure it out, you know, because I do love
Speaker 1: performing on an ideal night, but you know, most comedians
Speaker 1: will look out and the one person who's not having fun,
Speaker 1: You're like, they're the ones that you're looking at, you know, right,
Speaker 1: But I've had that before and then.
Speaker 2: They literally didn't speak English when I was talking. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, like it's not even about me, and no
Speaker 2: it's not.
Speaker 5: It's not about It has nothing to do with us.
Speaker 5: That's so hard though, when you're I mean, I'm hardwired.
Speaker 6: To be like everybody like me, you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's really hard to go like not everybody is
Speaker 5: going to ever mm hmmm.
Speaker 6: And I thought a thing that is place to end
Speaker 6: it right there and not everybody's gonna like you.
Speaker 1: But listen and that's okay, and bring it back to like,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what, but like I just
Speaker 1: remember seeing a picture of Rihanna years ago online and
Speaker 1: people were like talking about her forehead or something, and
Speaker 1: I was just like, oh, there's.
Speaker 6: No there there, there's no there there Rihanna.
Speaker 2: She's ugly. They're saying she has a flaw or whatever.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, it's just and and I think
Speaker 1: social media makes it all so much worse because people
Speaker 1: are just there's they point out things you never even
Speaker 1: would have thought.
Speaker 2: To be insecure about, you know, and so it's like
Speaker 2: it's a whole nother level.
Speaker 6: It was like, oh, Stephanie's teeth a fake because when
Speaker 6: she laughs, what is a bridge on the bottom? Look?
Speaker 6: And I do, I'm here, that's no I think I can't.
Speaker 6: I heard that my mom, and my mom was probably
Speaker 6: my dad. My dad really much a little alert on
Speaker 6: it's too much, too much, so you just have to go.
Speaker 5: Like, even if my brain does feel empty, I'm gonna
Speaker 5: be okay no matter what, I'm gonna be okay, Like
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be okay.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna be okay. I'll be fine with a
Speaker 4: bad show. I'll have a better one next time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the thing about live shows. I mean,
Speaker 2: you just gotta It's like what, you're only as good
Speaker 2: as your last show, which is just like come on,
Speaker 2: I mean, there's.
Speaker 6: No brutal it's such a brutal like brain place to be, which.
Speaker 1: Is like, yeah, well this is how I feel like
Speaker 1: entertainment is basically like finals. Every day, you know, everything
Speaker 1: feels like finals, and everything's like, you know, maybe.
Speaker 2: That was.
Speaker 5: Maybe I'm saying like that's a that's a that's an
Speaker 5: intense way to think about it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think sometimes I think about it as like.
Speaker 5: I often think when I'm at work, at least now
Speaker 5: in the later part of my life, I feel like
Speaker 5: I think this is supposed to be fun. Yeah, like
Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure this is supposed to be fun, and
Speaker 5: you know, not to bring up something else that might
Speaker 5: make us cry. But like I remember Andre talking about
Speaker 5: how he like didn't ever want to do anything again
Speaker 5: that was so hard, like homicide, because like it was
Speaker 5: so hard, and like he was like I think I'm
Speaker 5: supposed to be having fun, you know, like and like
Speaker 5: that kind of kind.
Speaker 2: Of feels drawn to comedy, and it is like I
Speaker 2: remember that.
Speaker 1: Too, and I remember thinking, oh, yeah, I guess that's
Speaker 1: crazy if you're shooting like an hour long show where.
Speaker 5: You were at people and yeah, people are dying and
Speaker 5: that's very like intense, and you're in a block box
Speaker 5: and there's no there's like imagine shooting an hour long
Speaker 5: show and there's no jokes anywhere.
Speaker 2: That's that lost at seat.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I don't know what I would be making
Speaker 6: su up.
Speaker 4: I mean I've certainly done even in the like very
Speaker 4: intense plays that I've done, I've been able to like
Speaker 4: mine for comedy because otherwise what am I doing, Like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm just making I'm just I'm suffering.
Speaker 2: Well, even in really dark movies, I need a little humor. Or.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, but I need a little I need liver,
Speaker 2: Give me a liver.
Speaker 4: Same well, but life is like that too, like that,
Speaker 4: it just it also starts to feel I don't know.
Speaker 4: I find that I don't buy in as much. If
Speaker 4: something is just so dark the whole time and there's
Speaker 4: no no relief or no no relief, there's no pop
Speaker 4: of like humor, it just doesn't it honestly just doesn't.
Speaker 6: Really feel real. It feels like it feels like work.
Speaker 6: It feels like I'm I'm something fun pushed on me.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, luckily, no, I won't. I was gonna make
Speaker 2: a a political remark about where we're headed.
Speaker 1: But no.
Speaker 3: Fun time.
Speaker 4: That's a good time, freeing time time and uh, some
Speaker 4: really great comedy that's going to come out of the
Speaker 4: next few years.
Speaker 6: Like my prediction, that's what I fain. That's pain I
Speaker 6: am holding on to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm hoping it'll be like the nineties.
Speaker 6: Yes, you know the fashion is already there.
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. I'm so thankful for those wide pants.
Speaker 6: I love a wide pants. I have a wide pan
Speaker 6: on right now. More better, Chelsea, Thanks for coming on
Speaker 6: the pot. It was so fun. What a delight.
Speaker 2: Great to see your little faces.
Speaker 6: Likewise, I miss you so much.
Speaker 2: You've just been so good.
Speaker 6: We look exactly like we did truly that things started.
Speaker 2: Thank goodness, than we're supposed age, So hold on to this.
Speaker 6: Yes, you better believe it.
Speaker 5: Also, before we go, Chelsea, do you have anything that
Speaker 5: you want to tell our listeners about, like a personal
Speaker 5: phone number or an email that they can write me
Speaker 5: a call?
Speaker 2: You actually can give me a call.
Speaker 1: I have a podcast called Call Chelsea Pretti where you
Speaker 1: can call in and we can talk about our food interests,
Speaker 1: we can play some fun sound effects together, we can
Speaker 1: talk about our challenges.
Speaker 2: In life, and we can laugh together. We have a
Speaker 2: lot of fun on there.
Speaker 1: And it's been a fantastic reboot. It's called Call Chelsea Paretti.
Speaker 6: I love it so much.
Speaker 5: Yes, you can find it anywhere you find your podcast.
Speaker 5: Thanks again Chelsea for being here.
Speaker 6: Bag go. Uh did you know that? Did you know
Speaker 6: diarrhea is the same in Italian and English? WHOA, yeah,
Speaker 6: it's there. Yare the It smells the same too?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Oh I thought you said smells Oh my gosh, I
Speaker 6: can't end on that smell, amateur, No women are.
Speaker 2: Oh.
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