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Speaker 1: So on August, police and Boston were called to investigate

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Speaker 1: stage of the Whites war on trans people. So okay,

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Speaker 1: with TikTok for one day and then it works. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you know, okay, but they use that time to

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Speaker 1: reflect and to think about what they've done and to change. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and there there change was we need to post more

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Speaker 1: about this, and so you know, we should be like,

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Speaker 1: like the social media companies are never actually gonna do

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Speaker 1: anything about lives with TikTok because luser TikTok, especially with Twitter.

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Speaker 1: TikTok is good for Twitter in the same way that

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Speaker 1: Trump was, like, you know, like it's presidency. It brings

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Speaker 1: traffic generation, they generate conflict, which is the entire purpose

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Speaker 1: of the Twitter algorithm. They drive like advertising revenue, they

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Speaker 1: get a lot of engagement. There's no reason to ban them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and like and with Twitter, especially like they like with

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Speaker 1: Trump for political reasons because you know, tried to overthrow

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Speaker 1: the government. But like you know what Trump gone, Like Twitter,

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Speaker 1: Twitter is like just a declining like social media platform

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Speaker 1: I forgot how funny Donald Trump was. Like he's as

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Speaker 1: long as he's plagued the character of Donald Trump, he's

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Speaker 1: actually really funny. Uh. Then I that I remembered all

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Speaker 1: the fashions and parts, and then I did something else anyway, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but like you know, okay, so like yeah, I were

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Speaker 1: talking about it, like yeah, bekay. So, like they the

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Speaker 1: way this sort of thing works, right, is that they

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Speaker 1: get all these users and engagement from the right, starting

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Speaker 1: like a campaign against the children's hospital, then they get

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Speaker 1: engagement from the left going after them. They make money

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Speaker 1: no matter who wins, and like you know, sometimes they'll

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Speaker 1: band like Trump right because you know, or the new

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Speaker 1: temporary bands of right wing people, because that that gives

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Speaker 1: you like good liberal media attention. And then you know,

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Speaker 1: and that that that that that gives time for a

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Speaker 1: cycle to sort of build up, for the conservatives to

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Speaker 1: all talk about how they're being censored. And then when

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Speaker 1: they returned to the platform, they do their whole I

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Speaker 1: was censored arc like we've seen there's Jordan Peterson like

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Speaker 1: fifteen times. So with the lizard TikTok on they August

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Speaker 1: twenty five, they start targeting another children's hospital and this

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Speaker 1: this is time. It was a Children's National Hospital in Washington,

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Speaker 1: d C. Which is like DCS like by far largest

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Speaker 1: and most important children's hospital. And they bring they bring

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Speaker 1: their website down like the same stuff is happening, and

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Speaker 1: Twitter finally locks Loves of TikTok off of their account

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Speaker 1: for a week. Um partially what's happening here was like

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Speaker 1: Alejandra klar Baio, who's been doing like a lot of

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Speaker 1: great work like documenting and like documenting what lives doing

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Speaker 1: and like sparring with them and try to right check

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Speaker 1: like keeps mis gendering her because China is a fucking

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Speaker 1: enormous piece of ships who should be flushed down the

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Speaker 1: toilet into the sewers where ship belongs. Unfortunately, like well, okay,

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Speaker 1: so so some of the some of the like dozens

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Speaker 1: children's hospitals and take it down. A lot of them

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Speaker 1: are still up, and you know probably was gonna right now.

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Speaker 1: Currently she's still banned off Twitter, but like, you know

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Speaker 1: what's gonna happen is there's gonna be like a wave

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Speaker 1: of like good and liberal media press, and then there's

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Speaker 1: going to be the next wave of the conservative outrage

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Speaker 1: over censorship and cancel culture stuff, and then she'll be

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Speaker 1: back in a substack post. Are right, chick said quote

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Speaker 1: Now more than ever, I need your support. Please consider

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Speaker 1: becoming a paid subscriber so I can continue this important

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Speaker 1: work when I get banned permanently, it's only a matter

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Speaker 1: of time. All need your help to keep the light

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Speaker 1: song so I can continue telling the truth. They can't

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Speaker 1: cancel me if you don't let them, because there it is. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I kind of says enough, like this has

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Speaker 1: all always been a grift, Like this is like her

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Speaker 1: fourth attempt. She's been trying her fourth attempt. Yeah, she's

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Speaker 1: been trying to become a vital Twitter personality for years.

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Speaker 1: She has found the one. She finally found something that worked,

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Speaker 1: and that's uh, baiting conservatives into being mad at trans people. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: giving them like some kind of excuse for being mad

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Speaker 1: at trans people, right, Like yeah, it's like a self

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Speaker 1: self validation thing. Ye yeah, the specific specific and specific

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Speaker 1: targets to yeah yeah, and like yeah, I like okay,

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Speaker 1: like right check, like is an actual human piece of ship,

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Speaker 1: Like her ideology is bad, but like it is the

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Speaker 1: stuff that she's doing is mostly about money. And this

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Speaker 1: is true of like the entire ecosystem, right, like all

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Speaker 1: of the conservative outlets is why, Like Matt Walshing is

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Speaker 1: like bullshit anti trans documentaries, Like all of these people

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Speaker 1: spent all of their time staring at metrics and looking

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Speaker 1: at their fucking viewer data looking at the anti trans

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Speaker 1: The anti trans documentary is paywalled behind Daily Wire plus

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Speaker 1: the hit New Like it's like it's funny because like

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Speaker 1: all of these people like ran constantly and there's there's

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Speaker 1: there's like increasingly anti semitic versions of it about how

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Speaker 1: like the transactivision, the trans lobby or funded by billionaires,

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Speaker 1: Like every single of these people is like getting paid

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Speaker 1: by fucking ge well all all supposedly we're all getting

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Speaker 1: paid by by George Sorrows. In reality, it's it's the

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Speaker 1: rights all getting paid by what my black other guy's name,

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Speaker 1: but the fucking Fox guy Teal No, the well they

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Speaker 1: are they are now getting paid were but the guy

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Speaker 1: guy no, the yeah, they're they're they're also all getting

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Speaker 1: paid by just like the rabid base of like guys

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Speaker 1: who boat dealerships and think they're working class because they

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Speaker 1: They're about nine hundred thousand subscribers to this Daily Wap,

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Speaker 1: Daily Wire plus the hit new streaming service. That's correctly,

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Speaker 1: that's why it's a hit. Then they give me such

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Speaker 1: a catchy name, and yeah, that's a ship ton of

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Speaker 1: money for someone, right, And you can just keep humping

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Speaker 1: out hate getting Gina Curiso to make crappy films, that's right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's an amazing career. Yeah, she went from she went

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Speaker 1: from Deadpool to Star Wars to Ben Shapiro, just gonna

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Speaker 1: have her own Star Wars show on the prairie. It's amazing,

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Speaker 1: fucking country body like that. That's the god Like, Oh,

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Speaker 1: the Hunter Biden trailer. Yeah, there's this trailer for a

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Speaker 1: film that I forget Who's I forget, Who's who's um

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Speaker 1: making this one? Um? But it's it's a film about

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Speaker 1: all of Hunter Biden scandals and Gina, Gina is in it,

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Speaker 1: and man, watching this trailer, it looks like, if this

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Speaker 1: was directed by a smart person, this could be an

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Speaker 1: amazing comedy like this, like the way the everything about

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Speaker 1: it is so innately comedic, yet they're playing it as

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Speaker 1: a political scandal. But no, it's just a comedy film.

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Speaker 1: And if it was, if it was directed by somebody

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Speaker 1: with any competency, they would have recognized it's a comedy

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Speaker 1: film and it would be hilarious to watch. But instead

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Speaker 1: it's going to be boring because look, conservatives are getting

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Speaker 1: good at comedy. Left is worried. The Left is getting

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Speaker 1: very scared like the other dear thing, Like the moments

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Speaker 1: I knew that Glenn Greenwald had like like he wasn't

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Speaker 1: just purely grifting, had like actually fallen down the rabbit

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Speaker 1: hole was what he spent like fucking like two years

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Speaker 1: pretending that literally anyone on earth gave a shit about

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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden. Also, yeah, he's been simping for for limps

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Speaker 1: of TikTok. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is all all leading

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Speaker 1: up to his uh, incredibly hardball interview with Alex Jones. Great, great,

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Speaker 1: incredible journalism just God, I love it here, so it

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Speaker 1: all sucks and the other like the other big problem here, right,

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Speaker 1: It's like okay, on the one hand, like all these

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Speaker 1: people are just doing is to make money. But the

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Speaker 1: problem is that, and I cannot emphasize this enough, it

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Speaker 1: is easier to get the materials necessary to make a

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Speaker 1: car bomb than it is to get gender affirming surgery.

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Speaker 1: And this is a real fucking issue because it turns

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Speaker 1: out when you convince a bunch of people that children's

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Speaker 1: hospitals and mutilating children, what happens? Oh wait, hold on,

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Speaker 1: I don't even need to go back to the anti

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Speaker 1: abortion terrorism, the people bringing down abortion clinics and murdering

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Speaker 1: healthcare workers. I could just talk about the reaction to COVID,

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Speaker 1: where like almost immediately after the lockdown started, a guy

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Speaker 1: tried to buy a bond to blow up a children's

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Speaker 1: hospital and was killed in the shootout with the FBI.

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Speaker 1: He was killed like a week maybe like a week

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Speaker 1: and a half before. Another guy tried to derail a

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Speaker 1: train to Rammay Navy medical ship. There was also the

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Speaker 1: Staddy Lady, the lady who tried to shake all the

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Speaker 1: knives on board the hospital ship. Yeah, like it's just

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Speaker 1: like okay, like if they're allowed to keep doing this ship,

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Speaker 1: like people are going to die. And this isn't to

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Speaker 1: say like they can't be beat, especially I r L

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Speaker 1: with like the numbers of these people in total are

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Speaker 1: actually pretty small because like the number of people who

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Speaker 1: act really rapidly care about this stuff is like a

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Speaker 1: vanishing least all minority of the US. And you know,

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Speaker 1: and and I r L. That works for us because again,

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Speaker 1: like these people suck. Everyone hates them. Communities will come

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Speaker 1: out to like to try to communities will come out

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Speaker 1: to confront and defeat them. But this is you know that,

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Speaker 1: this is the this is the ecosystem, the media ecosystem

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Speaker 1: of the modern right. It works like spreading conspiracy theories

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Speaker 1: and citing mobs and then claiming they're being censored when

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Speaker 1: everyone tries to stop them. So like in two to

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Speaker 1: three weeks, when they found another one of these things,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, it will be like fucking like transgender

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Speaker 1: clowns are working make a Wish foundation or we're going

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Speaker 1: to be We're gonna be talking about another instance, another

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Speaker 1: instance like this in tomorrow's episode. Um, so it's great,

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Speaker 1: it's it's good. It's not good at all. That is bad. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: If you do want to be mad about force historic means,

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Speaker 1: consider that immigration services force historic means on people in

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Speaker 1: their custody. It's a good thing to be mad about.

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's a good time on that we have

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Speaker 1: here on this earth. Yeah. Gent hom hospitals