1 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: At a Steve Tasker who has been all over the fields. 2 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role 3 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: player for you. See, I'm a lily, Steve a blimp. 4 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: We're not even in the strated beer of normalcy. Welcome 5 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: to a terrific Tuesday edition of One Bills Live. Chris Brown, 6 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you as always as we are getting 7 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: set for full blown off season analysis mode. Start it 8 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: up now. It is happening and it will continue to 9 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: happen until we get to free agency, and then it 10 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: will happen in another iteration, and then we get to 11 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: the drafted it'll take place in another iteration. I know, 12 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: I know that we can go ahead and move on 13 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: from the super Bowl because there's only ninety six million 14 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: that watched it. Yeah, downtown, down, down, way down. That 15 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: just ninety six million people. Nobody like when you when 16 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: you take ninety six million people, But you're right when 17 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: you take a big picture look at it. It started slow. 18 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: It was sluggish. You know. I think people, the casual 19 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: fans were being told by everybody under the sun, Oh, 20 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: it's gonna be yeah, it's gonna be a shootout. You're 21 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: gonna want to watch this and then it's like zero 22 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: zero through the first six minutes, and you know, the 23 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: casual fans like, yeah, I'm out. Yeah, I still though 24 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: ninety six million. It's good, it's good enough. It's still 25 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: the giant. It's the still the elephant in the room. 26 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: But man, oh man, so be that as it may. 27 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: Let's just talk about something else. Okay, Uh, Bills are 28 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: full blown off season and and I'm I'm happy about it. 29 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: I'm if you take stock. And we've been we've been 30 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: kind of in a funk thinking, wow, the chief let 31 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: me just tell you my take on on this thing. 32 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, we spent a week of that 33 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: first two weeks period of the Super Bowl thing, and man, 34 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: we've that's the team. We gotta beat those Chiefs. They 35 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: kind of lumped us up with. They beat us by 36 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: two touchdowns. We should have gone forward. And if we'd 37 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: have gone forward on both those fourth downs late and 38 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: got a touchdown, well then it's different, you know, and 39 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: things might have changed. It's this simple for me, in 40 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 1: all my experience, I've seen it. And when you talk 41 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: about big I'm talking big picture here. Now, certainly there 42 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: are intricacies of those these games that would change things. 43 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: But in the big picture, Brownie, the Chiefs got to 44 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: play well to beat a team like Buffalo. They did, 45 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: and the Bills did not play well in that game. 46 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: For whatever reason, whether it was the Chiefs game player 47 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,839 Speaker 1: or whatever, the Chiefs got to play well to beat 48 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: a team like Tampa Bay. They didn't play well and 49 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay did. That's how these games happen. If you 50 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: don't play well, you get beat. No matter how good 51 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: you are, no matter what kind of what kind of 52 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: players you have, you know what legendary figures you have. 53 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: You got to play well on that game. Trust me, 54 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: I got I got kicked in the stomach, you know, 55 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: four times in the Super Bowl. You gotta play well 56 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: on that day. And even when you do, you yeah, 57 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: you know, you don't get all the breaks. I didn't 58 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: want to bring up or subject, but you know, even 59 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: if you go back and you know, you look at 60 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: the thirty for thirty four falls of Buffalo, I think 61 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: the general consensus from a lot of you and your 62 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: teammates was in those biggest games, you guys never felt 63 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: like you played your best game. Absolutely so your year 64 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: over year performance just getting there was pretty rare. I mean, 65 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: it's a rare feat. Yeah, but I think a lot 66 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: of a lot of the people that were involved in 67 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: on those rosters or coach those teams likely came away 68 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: from them saying, you know, I just never felt like 69 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: we played at our peak level of efficiency. Maybe in 70 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: any of them or one of them, two of them. 71 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: Turnovers were a problem in three of three of the four. Well, 72 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: there always are. But the thing about it is, you 73 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: think back two weeks before those are one week the 74 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: championship games played great yea in all except maybe the 75 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: Denver one, and we still made the plays necessary to win. 76 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: It was like a ten seven game. And in the 77 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: other three we played outstanding, you know, at fifty one 78 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: to three game and the Dolphins game down there in 79 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: that championship we lumped him up even the Chiefs won 80 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: and then went out of the game two weeks later. 81 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: You know, he just had a hard time turning off. 82 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: Piece were the same way. They they were clicking when 83 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: they played the Bills, and they were they were really humming, 84 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: and you got to tip your hat to them. They 85 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: they played great and the Bills probably a tough matchup 86 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: for the Bills defensively, like it is for everybody, but 87 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: you know, we just didn't have the guys to keep 88 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: them off the board. In our offense was you know, 89 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: Josh tried to struggle. We didn't run the ball quite 90 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: well enough, you know all that stuff, and you played 91 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: great and you couldn't see it. You could see it 92 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: early in that game on Sunday that the Chiefs were 93 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: just not as sharp as they were in the AFC 94 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: title game. You saw it very early in that game. 95 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: Whether it was dropping a pass, ball, location off a 96 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: little bit, you know, and there are other circumstances contributing 97 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 1: to that. Good pass pressure, good coverage, you know, what 98 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: have you. But even down to the punter shank and 99 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 1: a punt, you know, the coaching staff calling a time 100 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: out on third and two when the Bucks had the 101 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: ball at the end of the half, thinking all right, 102 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: we get a stop here, we get the ball back, 103 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: let's leave some time on the clock. Brady converts. It 104 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: was a game, I know, Brady converts. And now in 105 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: they go for points, and now you're in the locker room, 106 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: you're down twenty one six. There were all these different 107 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: little pieces that don't look glaring in the moment, but 108 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: after watching how well the Chiefs executed in the AFC 109 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: title game. I mean, they were just on everything. Everything 110 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: was on, as Steve said, everything was clicking, and then 111 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: a lot of those little tiny elements were not clicking 112 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 1: for the Chiefs. And when you're playing in the playoffs, 113 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: those little things add up to a sum that costs 114 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: you in a game against the team the caliber of 115 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: the opponent that you're playing when you get to the 116 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: playoffs or the Super Bowl. So yeah, and I would 117 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: imagine for some Bills fans it was hard not to 118 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: think of, you know, here's the Chiefs. They're a juggernaut 119 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: of a team. Maybe some Bills fans thought back to, 120 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: you know, some of those nineties teams saying, man, that 121 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 1: reminds me of those juggernaut teams that just couldn't put 122 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: it all together in the ultimate game. And it's not 123 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: just the Bills. There's a ton of teams through the 124 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: course Super Bowl history come away come away from those 125 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 1: games saying, you know what, we just didn't we got 126 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: to the big game. We didn't play our best on 127 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: the day we had to be could go down. Every 128 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: team that lost would say they didn't play the game. 129 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: And even some of the teams that won would say 130 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: they didn't play their best game, But the simple fact 131 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: of the matter is you got to play well on 132 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: those games to give yourself the best chance. And the 133 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: Chiefs didn't this last week. And that means to me, 134 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: when teams play their best, they look different than they 135 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: than we've seen them. And that tells me the Bills. 136 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: We came out of that game losing by two touchdowns 137 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: on the team and a Bills team that is, don't 138 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: kid yourself, they're really good. So to come out of 139 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: that game by getting beat by two touchdowns, everybody's like, wow, 140 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: we got a ways to go. We're like, well, we don't. 141 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: You really don't. Now you didn't. Then things change in 142 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: the off season, like we saw it last offseason between 143 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: two nineteen twenty twenty, the Bills revamped their defensive front. 144 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: Their defense was not nearly as effective this year as 145 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: it was a year ago, but their offense changed some 146 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: players out and all of a sudden they're a juggernaut 147 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: and they got and their quarterback is number two in 148 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: league voting for MVP. I mean, good grief, this is 149 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: a team that's not far away, So I'm we're kind 150 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: of moving turning the page kind of feeling to me 151 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: a little bit better about where the Bills are, because, 152 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: as you know, I should have said it yesterday, I didn't. 153 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: It's a team that's not far away. Just because they 154 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: got beat by a really good football team and on 155 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: a Sunday doesn't mean everything that they'd done up to 156 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: that point was worthless or that they were so glaringly 157 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: bad they never had a chance at it. They certainly 158 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: had a chance at it, and they were good enough 159 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: to do it if had they played their best football 160 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: and they just didn't. And give credit to the Chiefs 161 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: for not letting them. But that's that's the way the 162 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: league is. I've seen it a million times, just the 163 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: way the Buffalo Bills put posted the greatest comeback in 164 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: NFL history. It's the way the New England Patriots had 165 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: the best Super Bowl comeback in NFL history. It's the 166 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: way some teams come out. It can go eleven and 167 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: oz on the regular season, then drop three straight Pittsburgh, 168 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: you just don't play well and it has nothing. You're 169 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: the same guys, same team, same Bucks lost three games 170 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 1: in a row. The Bucks lost three games in a row, 171 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: and they were like questioning whether how good. They were going. Yeah, 172 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: so it's it's a week and Murph used to say 173 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: this all the time. He's right, it's a week to 174 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: week league. So the Bills are you know, the Bills 175 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: don't have anything to be like. They don't need to 176 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: be sitting there wringing their hands thing a man or 177 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: are we really doing there? Yeah, they're doing it right. 178 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: They've changed all those guys out last year and they 179 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: went two games further in a season that was really good. 180 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: The year before they were they were a wildcard team 181 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: one ten and six. They came back this year, won 182 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 1: thirteen games against as difficult to schedule preseason, what we 183 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: thought from last year it was the most difficult schedule 184 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: we'd ever seen. Send a team, send a team record 185 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 1: and scoring, team record and scoring. They went thirteen and three, 186 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: and it should have been fourteen and two because of 187 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: hail Mary, because two really talented players made one play. 188 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: I mean, they had a phenomenal season. They were that good. Now, 189 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: now as you and Brownie and I sat down and 190 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: talk about the show today and Jay, we're like, okay, 191 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: what do we need it running back? Right? Well, yeah, 192 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: and then they're gonna do just to kind of lay 193 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: it out. I mean all this week, we're going to 194 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: kind of go a position by a position, and we'll 195 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: be focusing on the offense sub side of the ball 196 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: this week, defensive side of the ball next week, and 197 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: and just kind of assess what they have, what is 198 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: still under contract, who's a free agent, who you would 199 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: prioritize to bring back into the fold, who you might 200 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: look at draft free agency to add to the mix 201 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: as an upgrade or a perceived upgrade. And what kind 202 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: of talent are you looking to add to maybe maybe 203 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: diversify the mix, if you will. And we're going to 204 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: talk quarterback too, and people might say, well, what the 205 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: heck are you talking about? Do you have your franchise quarterback? 206 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: They do, but their backup is a free agent, and 207 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: with the team as tight as they are against the cap, 208 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: and what is a restrictive cap year, there's there's some 209 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 1: debate to be had about Matt Barkley. There is value 210 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: in him on this roster, but do you how do 211 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: you quantify that value in a year where you're going 212 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: to have to make some tough decisions And that's to 213 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: be debated and will debate that here today. So we 214 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 1: will talk the quarterback position, in the running back position today. 215 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 1: But the Twitter poll today deals chiefly with the running 216 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: back and we've heard people on our show call in 217 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: and there of the opinion that the Bills need to 218 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: add a third party to that contingent, especially knowing the 219 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: Taiwan Jones and t j Yeldon are both free agents. 220 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: They did sign Antonio Williams and Christian Wade to reserve 221 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: future contracts, so they will be under contracts this offseason 222 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: on the Bill's roster and then you know, see how 223 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: far they can get, you know, through training camp and 224 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: whether they can earn a roster spot you know, and 225 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: potentially replaced j Yeldon or Taiwan Jones on special teams. 226 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: But we're asking you on the Twitter poll what type 227 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: of running back do the Bills need to add to 228 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: their offense? And the choices are there for you. A 229 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: a speedback, be a powerback. See they're good with what 230 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: they have have or d something else and that is 231 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: there for you to chew on at eight oh three 232 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 1: five fifty one eight eight five fifty two five fifty. 233 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: If you want to weigh in on the Matt Barkley 234 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: situation as well, you can so that's all there on 235 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 1: the table for you at eight o three oh five fifty. 236 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: We should also mention second hour of the show. When 237 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: we begin that we anticipate we will be joining the 238 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 1: Sabers press conference, which is going to be held at 239 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: one o'clock. GM Kevin Adams expected to address the media 240 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 1: at that time. We will interrupt the program to bring 241 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: that to you live. As we know, or for those 242 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: that don't know, the Sabers in the midst of a 243 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 1: COVID situation where they have now nine players on their 244 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 1: COVID protocol list. Ralph Krueger, head coach, also diagnosed as 245 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: positive tested positive for COVID last week. But the team 246 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 1: is going to try to hold a practice today even 247 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: with the NHL cancel their game on Thursday, believe it 248 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: was against the Capitols. Scheduled to play the Capitals on Thursday, 249 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: that has been scrapped from the schedule this week. They've 250 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: sent resket you know, they've rescheduled a handful of the 251 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: Sabers game so far. So Sabers GM Kevin Adams scheduled 252 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: to address the media at one pm. We will bring 253 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: that to you live right here on one Bill's Live 254 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: to get the latest on the Sabers COVID protocol situation, 255 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: the adjustments they've made, whether they will practice today, which 256 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: is widely anticipated, and where they go from here. Quite frankly, 257 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: because this is uh, this is obviously a much bigger 258 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: deal than the Bills had to deal with at any 259 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: point in time in their in their schedule in twenty twenty. 260 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: They had a couple of COVID positives here and there, right, um, 261 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: you know, tiny little brush fires, if you will, but 262 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: nothing in this magnitude on one roster. It's interesting too, 263 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: And I and rightfully so wrongfully, I'm not even saying. 264 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 1: I'm just saying I've kind of been following this whole 265 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: thing just through social media, right, I'm not. I'm a fan. Yeah, 266 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: I'm not the instant when I asked. When I want 267 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: to know something about the Sabers, I call PD or 268 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: A call RIBS, you know, I call those guys. What's 269 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: going on? Marty Barroun, I go, hey, how do I 270 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: feel about this? Right? And tell me? Even following on 271 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: social media, it's been interesting because in the football world 272 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: when like for instance, during the regular season, when Baltimore 273 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: had their outbreak and when Tennessee had their outbreak early 274 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: in the season. That kind of thing those teams got, 275 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: they were crushed this one. The league is getting crushed 276 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: for the way they handled it with the Sabers because 277 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: the league, you know, they haven't even made a statement 278 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: about how they handled it with the State Sabers. I mean, 279 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: it's been it's been an absolute, I guess joke of 280 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: how the NHL has handled what they did with COVID 281 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: and the game that the Sabers played against the guys 282 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: who were had an outbreak and nobody, you know, they 283 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: didn't make the right call. Somebody made a blown call 284 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: in judgment and the Sabers now have been sitting idle 285 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: for a week and missing games and all that. And 286 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: it's and the reason I bring it up is in 287 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: the football end of it, we saw these teams got 288 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: vilified for being stupid and having guys going out to 289 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: events without masks on and all that stuff. This has 290 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: been the NHL and they're handling of it. And that's 291 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: you know, sitting from this side of it. In the NFL. 292 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: The NFL didn't miss a beat. They were they had strong, 293 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: decisive leadership at the top of the league level who said, 294 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: do ABC and D and do not deviate from it 295 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: or you're gonna get You're gonna get your hands slapped. 296 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: And the NHL is asleep obviously because they let some stuff, 297 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff slip through, and they are paying 298 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: a heavy price for it right now. So it's as 299 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: bad as it's been for the Sabers. It ain't their fault. 300 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,119 Speaker 1: They got stabbed in the back by a higher authority 301 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: and so now they're paying the price. And you know, 302 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: we as Sabers fans, now I know this. If they're 303 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: on I am parked on it. I got nothing else 304 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: to do. I'm parked on the couch and I'm watching 305 00:15:53,440 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: the Sabers every game and it ain't there at eight 306 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: there and it's the league to blame it. It's amazing. 307 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: What are they doing? You know, I gotta I'm gonna 308 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: call we I'm gonna call Ribs and and Marty and 309 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: say what you know, when I get the real lowdown, 310 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: then we'll come back in tomorrow and give a barage. 311 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: But I really await that. So we're gonna wait for 312 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna get a chance to hear from Kevin Adams. Maybe. 313 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure the media is gonna say, Okay, tell us 314 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: what you're there, so we may get that from Kevin 315 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: Adams here and at one o'clock, which I'm I'm watching it, 316 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: so so we'll bring that to you live and the 317 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: one o'clock hour one twenty five, about an hour and 318 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: ten minutes from now, we'll have one Tyler done in 319 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: to talk to him. He's obviously got his new venture, 320 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: um the go along dot com site that he's now running. Uh. 321 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: He's the founder of that NFL features writer and he 322 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: also has the Golong podcast. So we'll catch you up 323 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: with him, uh, see what he thought of how the 324 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: twenty twenty season wrapped up, what he sees on the 325 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: horizon in terms of the COVID protocols that are likely 326 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: going to continue at least into the league's offseason conditioning 327 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: programs for the thirty two teams, and very good chance 328 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:16,479 Speaker 1: it'll be virtual, much like it was this past spring. 329 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: So we'll check in with Tyler on that stuff. And yes, 330 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: and then thank you Jay, look at this updates by 331 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: the minute, and then in a couple of hours we're 332 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 1: gonna be talking with former Bills quarterback Doug Flutie and 333 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: the reason we're bringing him on is because of the 334 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: news of Marty Schottenheimer's passing. Former NFL head coach Marty 335 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: Schottenheimer coached four teams in this league Washington, San Diego, Cleveland, 336 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: and Kansas City, went to three AFC title games, led 337 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: those teams to eight division titles in his twenty one 338 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: years coaching in the league. I know Steve's had some 339 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 1: experience under Marty at the Pro Bowl, and we'll get 340 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: thoughts on that. But Doug Flutie obviously played for Marty 341 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: Schottenheimer in San Diego, so wanted to get Doug on 342 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: to kind of share some of his thoughts on Marty 343 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: as a head coach, having worked under him on a 344 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 1: day to day basis. But I know you, um, you 345 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: were in a Pro Bowl when he was coaching the AGA. 346 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: My first Pro Bowl nineteen eighty eight. I mean, it's 347 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: how long ago was Steve Largent was a teammate on 348 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: that team, you know. That's how That's how far back 349 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: I go, right, So, um, Mike, I was a Pro 350 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: Bowl teammate of Mike Webster, the Pittsburgh Steelers center from 351 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: the four Super Bowl team. That's how that's how long 352 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,479 Speaker 1: ago it was Marty was the guy he was. It 353 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: was the Cleveland coaching staff. Bill Cower was on that staff. 354 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: M Herm Edwards was on that. It was Tony Dungee 355 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: was a fantastic staff. And you know they as that 356 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: they were that team that kept getting beat by Denver 357 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: in the championship by John Elway with Bernie they it 358 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: was great. We went out and but it was old school. 359 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: And I'll give you an idea of how long ago 360 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: it was and how things have changed. I told you 361 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: this pre show, but I'll share it again. So we 362 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: go out there. Marty was one of those coaches who 363 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: was a great leader of men, great motivator, uh and 364 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: kind of a little and not just a little, but 365 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: pretty old school even for that time. He was a 366 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 1: hard those guys, we're gonna practice hard and we're gonna 367 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: play hard and we're gonna win. But it was the 368 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, Brownie. I mean, yeah, you're not laying it 369 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: out there. You're not. You're not. Nobody's getting cut, you know, 370 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: for missing a practice or anything. Right, So we're out 371 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: there and we're going we're Marty's got us practicing in 372 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: pads on Wednesday, in pads on Thursday, and on Friday 373 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: it comes out and says, hey, we're in pads on Friday. 374 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 1: Let's go. We're gonna go out and hit. And you know, 375 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: we're in pads on Friday at the Pro Bowl. And 376 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: back in the day when we're at Aloha Stadium in Hawaii, 377 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: it was our On Wednesday, we traveled over to um University, 378 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: University of Hawaii. We'd bust over there and the and 379 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: the NFC squad would practice in the stadium. Then third 380 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 1: Thursday we practiced in the stadium and the NFC squad 381 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: practiced and then vice first one Friday, we had two 382 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: days at the at the university. So Friday we're getting 383 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: on a bus to go out there. And the old guys, 384 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 1: I was not one my first Pro Bowl. I was 385 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, I guess, and uh, I looked ten 386 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: and I'm on I'm on the bus and we're getting 387 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 1: ready to go on the bus. And Howie Long and 388 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: Marcus Allen, two guys that were, you know, even at 389 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: that time, pretty legendary and they were raiders and they, 390 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: you know, and it was all true raiders were like, 391 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: you know, we're not getting so they put it out 392 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: of their guys, it's Friday, it's the Pro Bowl. It's Friday. 393 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: We need to get to the beach. We ain't practicing 394 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: in past today, so don't put your pads on coach. 395 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: Coach can take a hike. Right. So we're like, if 396 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 1: if everybody else you know me, I was like, I 397 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: was looking at everybody else if they were doing ie. 398 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: So sure enough, right, So we all get on the bus. 399 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 1: We're on with just Jersey, just Jerseys. So we're out 400 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: there and it's quiet on the bus. You know, I 401 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: wonder what how he's going to react to this, And 402 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: so Marty gets on the bus and he's obviously gotten 403 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: word that you know wasn't gonna fly. Yeah, he goes, guys, 404 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: let me just tell you something. He kind of gets 405 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: puts his little edge on his voice. It was like, 406 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: I told you on Monday, we are not practicing in 407 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: pads on Friday. He said. Now, everybody had a good 408 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 1: chuckle over. We went out, we probably and we won 409 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: the game. And uh so that was he was just great. 410 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: We pay I played against him a ton, I watched 411 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: him coached. Um I had a quaint an above just 412 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: a passing hello relationship with him, and uh I had 413 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: a lot of respect for him. I know this last 414 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 1: few years have been very difficult for him and his family. Yeah, 415 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: they tried to sign you away, didn't they at one point, 416 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: like he was with the Chiefs and they tried to 417 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: sign me Plan B. Yeah. Yeah, and that was more 418 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 1: about his brother Kurt, the Special Team's coordinator, and my hey, 419 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: get me that guy and my close friend Bruce de Haven, 420 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: who I owe so much too as where you know, 421 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: I love him to death and he's also passed. Yeah, 422 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: uh Bruce. Bruce told me the story, and Kurt Schottenheimer 423 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: reiterated at that Marty and Kurt were calling me during 424 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,479 Speaker 1: Plan B. Yeah, you know, what are you gonna do? Da? 425 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: Da da? And Bruce had called Kurt and said, hey, man, 426 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: how's it going. Just want to know we'll get together, 427 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: and you know we're gonna have to get because they 428 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: were friends, right. Yeah. He gets off the phone and 429 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: after the phone call, he finds out that Kansas City's 430 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: trying to sign me from the bills, and Kurt Schotenheimer 431 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: relates the story either I get the message from Bruce 432 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: about hey, how are you going. We're gonna do good 433 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 1: with the wives. We'll get together. We'll have the vacation. Nada. 434 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 1: The next voice on his answering machine was Bruce again, going, hey, 435 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 1: screw you, screw Marty, you keep your hands off task 436 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: or hangs the phoneys the phone? And what happened after 437 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: that where they still trying, still trying to like land 438 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 1: you or it lasted for a minute. I signed with 439 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: the Bills, yeah, and and I signed back for the Bills. 440 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: You know, I wasn't that interested. Kansas City was an 441 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: allure for me because it was home my mom and dad, 442 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: my family could have come and watched the games, and 443 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: it wasn't that kind of thing. And I grew up 444 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: a chief that kind of thing. And that's about the 445 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: only allure that The offers were different, but not incredibly different. Um, 446 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: and I just I wanted to stay here. Yeah, I 447 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: wanted to say, how far? How far is what is it? Leota? Kansas? Well, 448 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: Lyota is a long way, but it's like eight hours 449 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: six seven six or seven hours eight hours from it's 450 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: a drive. We're almost in Colorado, midwestern mid mid level 451 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 1: north south of the state. And my family though, was 452 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: in the Wichitari, which is okay three hour four three 453 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: and a half four hour drive. Yeah, so it was. 454 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: It would have been a much different scenario for my 455 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: family coming to Kansas City games than than Bills games, 456 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:58,479 Speaker 1: although for the playoffs my family rarely missed. Yeah. So 457 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 1: we'll get Dug on to uh kind of talk about 458 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: Marty and what he was like as a head coach, 459 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: you know, having worked with him out in San Diego 460 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: and you know, just about every stop he made he 461 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: was successful. I mean, heck, he's one of only eight 462 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: coaches in the history of the league with two hundred wins. 463 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: That's a shortlist of people, and most of them are 464 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 1: in his salad. Days were in the in the with 465 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 1: the Cleveland organization, but he also got the Chiefs to 466 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: the AFC Championship game here in Buffalo. He got San 467 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: Diego the Chargers to the AFC Championship Game. Yeah, and Washington, 468 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: he didn't have as much success there. He wasn't there 469 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: as long. Chargers. He flipped the record went from four 470 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 1: and twelve to twelve and four in one year, and 471 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: that's when he got his only ap NFL Coach of 472 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: the Year award in two thousand and four. The fantastic 473 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: coach Ladanian Tomlinson, I mean if Ladanian Tomlinson is not 474 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: made for Marty ball, I don't know who is you know, 475 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: Oh I get that guy. Yeah, I'll sign where it was. 476 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: That was crazy. He was a he was a real 477 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: leader and just they loved his players and loved the 478 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: emotion of the game. And you see all the old 479 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,479 Speaker 1: you know, the films of him and NFL films and 480 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 1: the things he said to his players and uh, just 481 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: a just a fantastic guy. I I know he was struggling. 482 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: He was he had been sick. Well. He was diagnosed 483 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: with Alzheimer's in two thousand and eleven. Now by all indications, 484 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: his uh, you know, he still was able to he 485 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 1: was doing a lot of experimental treatments to try to 486 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 1: stave off, you know, the the evils of that horrible disease. 487 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: It is a horrific disease. Yeah. So they didn't even 488 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: go public with his diagnosis until twenty sixteen, and even 489 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, he still had the majority of his faculties, 490 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: you know, carry on a conversation, you know, do stuff whatever, 491 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: and you know, and unfortunately, you know, Alzheimer's usually over time, 492 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: it deteriorates your your mental faculties and you just can't 493 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: function the way you normally do. And it's just terrible, 494 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,479 Speaker 1: especially for the loved ones around you that you know, 495 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: they know the person you are, but you know, the 496 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 1: disease doesn't allow you to be that person, and you know, 497 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: you fade in and fade out. Sometimes it's really tough 498 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 1: sometimes on the family members more than the person that 499 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: it's afflicting. It's frustrating for the person it's afflicting, but 500 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: for the people around them, it's just so difficult to 501 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: witness that. And so, yes, he had just been we 502 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: had we had the report here on the show last 503 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: week that he had just been placed in hospice's care 504 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:35,959 Speaker 1: last week. So we unfortunately knew that it was you know, 505 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: his time here with us was coming to an end. 506 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: So unfortunate. And we have a story up on Buffalo 507 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: bills dot com today about his time as a Bills linebacker. 508 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: You know, it was a seventh round draft choice of 509 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: the Bills in nineteen sixty five out of pit drafted 510 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: by the Bills in the seventh round and I believe 511 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: the Baltimore Colts in the NFL in the fourth round, 512 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: and he chose to sign with the Bills and wasn't 513 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: a starter here because it was a pretty damn good 514 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: defense they had coming off their first AFL title. John Tracy, 515 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: Harry Jacobs, Mike Stratton. I mean, that's that's a pretty 516 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: good threesome there in their defense. So he was a backup, 517 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,479 Speaker 1: but it was an AFL All Star as a rookie, 518 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 1: so certainly made an impact and they won their second 519 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: straight title in Schottenheimer's rookie year. Played here for four seasons, 520 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: then went to the Boston Patriots for two more, and 521 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: then retired kind of got into coaching after a short 522 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: stint in real estate. So yeah, if you want to 523 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 1: know more about his time as a Bill, you can 524 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: go to Buffalo Bills dot com and read about that. 525 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, this is where his professional football career started, 526 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: right here in Buffalo. So just a little interesting too. 527 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: There's always a Buffalo connection, you know, there's always a 528 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: Buffalo connection. It's just Camon Bacon. Well yeah, yeah, six 529 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 1: degrees of separation. Yeah, so you can check that out 530 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: at Buffalo Bills dot com. Steve, I gotta tell you 531 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: in some other news and notes here, I was disappointed 532 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: to learn that this story was not one hundred percent 533 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: legit and on the up and up. My son mentioned 534 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: it to me late yesterday afternoon, and then I saw 535 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 1: another rite up on Yahoo Sports about this the Super 536 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: Bowl streaker. There was a story out there and it 537 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: proved to be doubtful at best. There was a story 538 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 1: going around that he bet a thousand dollars on a 539 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 1: Super Bowl prop bet that there would be a streaker 540 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: on the field during the game, with the full intention 541 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: of him being the streaker to make the bet pay off. 542 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: And so there were there were reports that he had 543 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: won three hundred and forty six thousand dollars on the 544 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: prop bed saying there would be a streaker sometime during 545 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: the game. Now he only paid a thousand dollars fine 546 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: to the authorities after he was arrested and captured on 547 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: the field at the goal line. And then I found 548 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: out that it was kind of a false story. I 549 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: was so disappointed. It's a great idea, I was so 550 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: wasn't that brilliant. That's kind of brilliant. It's brilliant. Oh yeah, 551 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: if there was ever a prop bet that would pay, 552 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, yeah, I'm gonna put money down 553 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: on that because I'm going to the game and I'm 554 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: going to be that person and then you just cash 555 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: in on yourself, bet on yourself. I was so disappointed 556 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: to find out it wasn't a legitt yourself, because I 557 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: was gonna tip my hat to that guy, like, that's 558 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: good on you man for being that inventive and creative. 559 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: I think about it. That's that's pure genius. Nobody's gonna 560 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: do that. Well, now it's out there. That's um uh, 561 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: that is money right there. Great call. He was, however, 562 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: trying to advertise a website while he was out there, 563 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: um an adult website, we will say. Fortunately he wrote 564 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: it on his thong, which was way too small for 565 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: anybody to see exactly the sight he was advertising. Would 566 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: have been better off painting that across your chest right 567 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: than in that location, But hey, what are you gonna do? 568 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: So there it is. But that's that's pretty much the 569 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: news and notes around the NFL. We will take a break, 570 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: but when we come back, we'll lead off with Bob 571 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: and cheek to Waga as we are talking position by 572 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: position breakdown of the Bills quarterbacks and running backs today. 573 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: And if you think the Bills need to add a 574 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: running back, what kind of back are you looking forward 575 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: to add to the group that includes Devin Singletary and 576 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: Zach Moss. Give us a call, you know, three oh 577 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: five fifty or hit us up on the tweet sheet 578 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: back in a moment. You're on One Bills Live presented 579 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: by Kalid to Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back 580 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: to one Bills Live. Chris Raps faster with you talking 581 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: Bill's quarterback and running back positions today as we begin 582 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: our position by position breakdown series and as we look 583 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: forward into the off season, free agency the draft, what 584 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: the Bills need to add at respective positions, what they 585 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: may need to part with to make the upgrades necessary 586 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: based on their player evaluations, which you know that tape 587 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: review was taking place, and then you know coaches are 588 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: probably on a little bit of a break, but they'll 589 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: be back here soon and kind of breaking everything down 590 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: position by position. We're trying to do the same thing 591 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: here with you at eight oh three five fifty one 592 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: eighty eight five fifty two, five fifty, and we're asking 593 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: you on the Twitter poll today what type of running 594 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: back do the Bills need to add to their offense? 595 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: If you believe they need to add one one of 596 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: the choices is see good with what they have, so 597 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: feel free to weigh in at one Bills Live on 598 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: the tweet sheet, But we begin on the phone lines 599 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: with Bob in cheek to waga, Bob, what do you 600 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: have for us? You're on one bills Live, sir, Hey, 601 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: I want to ask the uh. Well, I watched Marty play. 602 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: He wore numbers fifty six and he played middle lineback 603 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,959 Speaker 1: for Footballfalore and I used to go to I went 604 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: to all the games. Well, anyway, how much does the 605 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: offensive line coach aving he's running plays? How much do what? 606 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: What's your question, Bob? Yeah, how much does either one 607 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: of you? How much does the run offensive line coach 608 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: have with the running game? How much? Say? I'm sure 609 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: he has some? Um, it depends. Some teams have a 610 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: running game coordinator. Certainly an offensive line coach is there 611 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: to make sure his guys go to the right guy 612 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: who use the right technique, But as far as scheme 613 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: uh and play calls, he probably only has a voice 614 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: in the room during the week and on game day 615 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: it's about the offensive coordinator. Yeah, and not only that, Bob, 616 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: I would say this too. Um, when they're putting the 617 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: game plan to get there. You know, I think it's 618 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: in the earlier stage as a training camp in the preseason, 619 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: when they're kind of formulating what they like and what 620 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: they don't like, and what plays they think will work 621 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: well for their personnel. That not only takes plays in 622 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: the passing game, takes place in the running game too. 623 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: Like you've got a lineman that can't execute something the offense. 624 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: The offensive line coach's job to tell the coordinator, hey, 625 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: that's a great play and everything, but we don't have 626 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: the guys that can pull and do that or you know, 627 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: things like that based on this guy's skill set. We 628 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: gotta go straight ahead. We can't be pulling these guys 629 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: out and getting them out on the edge for you 630 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: because they're just not capable. They're not able to do that. 631 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: Yeah they'll yeah, so yet Bob still there. No, Okay, 632 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: that was all he really had. Yeah, and that's some. 633 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: But like I said, it's a group effort, and he'll 634 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: know the skill set of his guys and how they are, 635 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: and and he also maybe to go so far as 636 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: safe for instance, I'm just this is just an example, say, 637 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: for instance, Mitch Morris, John Feliciano, you know, Washington will say, Hey, 638 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: those two guys have trouble getting this play set. You know, 639 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: they have a trouble getting out there. They're they're struggling 640 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: with it. Let's not run that unless we get into 641 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 1: a really tight spot or whatever, or unless they give 642 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: us this front. Let's let's try it then when they 643 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: get this front, let's not run it against that front 644 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 1: because they have you know whatever, and this back. Let's 645 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 1: run it when when Moss is in the game instead 646 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: a Singletary, because Moss does a better job of this, 647 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: that and the other, and Singletary likes to do this 648 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: other thing, that kind of thing. There's there's all those 649 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 1: specific ins and outs of coaching that you know, they 650 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: go into it. And each of those guys in there, 651 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: the offensive line coach, the running game coordinator, the offensive coordinator, 652 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 1: they all have a voice. They all have a voice. Yeah, 653 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: so that's where it's at with that. Well, let's go 654 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: back to the phones, though, and we go to John 655 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: and Amhurst. John, what do you have for us? You're 656 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 1: on one Bill's Live. Hi, guys, appreciate the opportunity. Sure, um, 657 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: I real you're trying to food. Did we lose you there? John? 658 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: John say that again, John, Say yeah, go ahead, John, Sorry, 659 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: start over there if you could. I can hear you. Now, 660 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 1: let's let's give it one more shot. Okay, all right, 661 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:26,919 Speaker 1: go ahead, Okay, But I really think yeah, sorry, John, 662 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: we were having too much trouble there. You were in 663 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 1: for two. You're killing us, John. Sorry. Well, the phone 664 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 1: lines you can't get out of. You need to get 665 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 1: out of, the get out of the tunnel. Yeah, he's 666 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 1: in a dead spot for sure. Uh. I wanted to 667 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: kind of start this conversation Steve by going back to 668 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 1: some of the comments that were made by Brandon Bean 669 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: in the season wrap up press conference, just with respect 670 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,919 Speaker 1: to the running back position. His initial thoughts, at least 671 00:35:55,920 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: at first, blush Um first on the issue of speed, 672 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 1: because I think there are many that believe, well, if 673 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 1: you're going to add a back, add one who can 674 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: get to the edge and turn the corner because you 675 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,800 Speaker 1: do not have burners quote unquote in Zac Moss or 676 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 1: Devin Singletary. Singletary runs at four to six six. I 677 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 1: think mosses in the mid four fives. They're not going 678 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:23,240 Speaker 1: to be beating people to the corner and getting yards 679 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: that way, you know. Singletary is more of the elusive type. 680 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,359 Speaker 1: Moss while he has a little shake to his game 681 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 1: is you know basically lower the shoulder and you know, 682 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: push the pile, get you know, get extra yards after contact, etc. 683 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: So first, when Brandon Bean was asked specifically about adding 684 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 1: speed to the roster, he said, yes, you always want 685 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: to add speed talent. Now, speed alone won't do it. 686 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 1: There are fast guys, we see them every year in 687 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 1: the combine. Some of them get overdrafted. They still need 688 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: to be good football players, they need to be smart. 689 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 1: But yes, it's hard to blow the gap on a 690 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: guy like Tyreek Hill, and that guy's like a unicorn. 691 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: It can't tell you you can find a dB that 692 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,800 Speaker 1: can run as fast as him. That's where some things 693 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: scheme will come into play as well. You're not always 694 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 1: going to have a guy that matches up against using 695 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 1: their team. For example, that matches up against Travis Kelsey 696 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: and a guy that matches up against Tyreek Hill, and 697 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,479 Speaker 1: a guy that matches up against me Coole Hardman. They've 698 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: got a lot of weapons, done a good job of 699 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: building it, they know, or they had put a lot 700 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 1: of pieces in place, and then you know, you drop 701 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 1: Mahomes in there and everything else. But I think the 702 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 1: point here is speed is a good asset to acquire, 703 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: but it's got to be in the right package in 704 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 1: terms of a player that you want to add. You 705 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 1: don't just want to add a speed guy who can't 706 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: remember his assignments. It's not going to help you. The 707 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 1: simple axiom is this, and this goes for we're going 708 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: to be discussing all these positions all the time from 709 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,840 Speaker 1: now until the draft, free agency, and from free agency 710 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 1: to the draft, and from draft into the regular season. 711 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: Here's what The simple way that I see it in 712 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 1: the NFL is, you get the best players can get 713 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: at every position, then you find out how they work together, 714 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,720 Speaker 1: and then whatever that looks like is how the team 715 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,399 Speaker 1: is going to look. If you've got Moss and single Arry, 716 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 1: you're gonna look different than you would if you had 717 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:18,320 Speaker 1: Y two k and Lashawn McCoy or those kind of 718 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,320 Speaker 1: were you know, Alvin Kamara and somebody else. Your backs 719 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,399 Speaker 1: and their skill set is going to dictate what your 720 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: offense looks like. And those backs that you have meshed 721 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 1: with what your offensive line does well is going to 722 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,479 Speaker 1: make your offense to have the identity that does and 723 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 1: that also goes in with what you want your quarterback 724 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 1: to do, your wide receivers and the and the emphasis 725 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,959 Speaker 1: you put and who is better, who is the best 726 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: on your offense doing what they do is what your offense, 727 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 1: the identity is going to take. And this year, there's 728 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:52,320 Speaker 1: no doubt it was Josh Allen, Steph Diggs, Cole Beasley, 729 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,839 Speaker 1: John Brown, and Gabriel Davis. That was the offense right there, 730 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 1: and that's what they did best. That was the skill 731 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 1: set a fit best and won the most games, thirteen 732 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: of them. Now if that changes, say, for instance, if 733 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 1: John Brown's not around, like we're starting to hear people think, well, 734 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,919 Speaker 1: he's an obvious cap savings and they were really good 735 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,799 Speaker 1: even when he wasn't in the lineup this last year. 736 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 1: So okay, and you've got Isaiah Hodgins and you can 737 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: draft a guy and all this. You can draft another 738 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 1: fast guy or get another fast guy off free agency. 739 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 1: So whatever happens and all those these guys change, the 740 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: object is the coaches are gonna find out what these 741 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 1: guys do well, whoever's on the team, and that's that's 742 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 1: what your identity's gonna be. Again, Now, Josh is gonna 743 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 1: be a huge part of that. No matter how you 744 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:42,799 Speaker 1: slice it, that guy's that guy is dynamite. But who 745 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,879 Speaker 1: he has to throw to, who he has to hand 746 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 1: it off to, and those guys up front of him 747 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 1: and how they play are gonna dictate what this offense 748 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: looks like. Now you slice that down and say what 749 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 1: about the running back room? And I vote. I don't 750 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:57,800 Speaker 1: usually vote on these Twitter polls. I just observe my 751 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 1: I voted in this one. I think it's a speedback 752 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 1: because that's the one thing we don't have. I like Moss, 753 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,839 Speaker 1: I like Singletary. Those guys are good, they run well, 754 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 1: they get yards after contact, they execute, Yeah, they step 755 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 1: up to the right guy in pass pro. They're gritty. 756 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,439 Speaker 1: I mean, there were everything you want. But if there's 757 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,839 Speaker 1: one thing they don't have, they don't run away from people. Okay, 758 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: So if I'm looking to add somebody, there you go. 759 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 1: So that doesn't mean the Bills are not gonna win 760 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 1: if they don't. It just means that if you're looking 761 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 1: for something that they were lacking, that's it. And I 762 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 1: think that's where I'm sitting. At all these positions, except 763 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 1: for the offensive line, you just need five more. You 764 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 1: need five guys because three of them are gone. Right, So, um, yeah, 765 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: there's a lot in this. But to me, this coaching 766 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 1: scouting staff, this coaching staff, they're gonna look for the 767 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 1: best guys out there and that's who they're gonna get 768 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 1: and then they're gonna see if they can get the 769 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 1: most out of them when they get him in the room. 770 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,919 Speaker 1: Right and just so, right before we go to break 771 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: here here was Brandon Bean's thoughts on this, because he 772 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,359 Speaker 1: was asked about needing more from the running game and 773 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,399 Speaker 1: being went into an answer that pretty much outlined they 774 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,479 Speaker 1: need to be able to make use of the run 775 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 1: game even they like when they absolutely need it, whether 776 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 1: it's based on whether whether it's based on facing an 777 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 1: opponent with a great pass rush that's neutralizing your pass game, 778 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:22,399 Speaker 1: you have to be able to turn into the run 779 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 1: game and count on it. So he essentially said, running 780 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 1: the football is very complex. It's obviously the old line, 781 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 1: the tight ends, the receivers. If one guy doesn't make 782 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 1: his block, the play's probably dead. And he said there 783 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 1: were times where we're one guy away, you know, somebody 784 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 1: missing an assignment. Now he's not saying there's no blame. 785 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 1: Sometimes the running back misses the whole too. But it's 786 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 1: one of those things you've got to practice, you got 787 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:49,840 Speaker 1: to emphasize, and you got to work on it, and 788 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 1: something that will definitely look at. But I'm not looking 789 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,880 Speaker 1: at Devin Singletary and Zach Moss and thinking those guys 790 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 1: came up short for us. We got to remember two 791 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:04,360 Speaker 1: years ago as a rookie, Devin Singletary led the league 792 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,359 Speaker 1: amongst running backs in yards per carry average at five 793 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 1: point one. The only guy that averaged more yards per 794 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 1: carry was a guy named Lamar Jackson who won the 795 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 1: MVP of the league in twenty nineteen. To see his 796 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 1: yards per carry average drop off, I don't think it's 797 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 1: solely on him. Something has changed up front or in 798 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 1: the play calling design schematically. So they have to take 799 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 1: a long, hard look at that and figure out why 800 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 1: Singletary's effectiveness in terms of a yards per carry average 801 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 1: suddenly dropped as it did. And you know, Moss was 802 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 1: kind of comparable in terms of yards per carry average two. 803 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,319 Speaker 1: So that's what they're examining right now, and they're gonna 804 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 1: make a determination where do we need to add is 805 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,279 Speaker 1: it the line is it at back? Do we need 806 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 1: a speed guy. But that's where we're talking about today. 807 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 1: Let us know what your preferences are. Eight oh three 808 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 1: oh five fifty Back in a second here on One 809 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by Collot of Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. 810 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker 811 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:17,879 Speaker 1: with you, talking Bill's running back and quarterback positions. And 812 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 1: with respect to quarterback, I think there's an interesting discussion 813 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 1: there with respect to Matt Barkley who is a free agent, 814 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 1: and they signed Davis Webb to a reserve futures contract. 815 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,840 Speaker 1: Jake from was a draft choice who's still under his 816 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 1: rookie contract, So there are three quarterbacks under contract on 817 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,239 Speaker 1: the roster along with Josh Allen's Counting Josh Allen, I 818 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:49,240 Speaker 1: should say, Barkley's last contract, which just expired, was two years, 819 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:53,440 Speaker 1: four million dollars. Now, I think Steve is of the 820 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,719 Speaker 1: opinion that they could find a way to bring him 821 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:59,840 Speaker 1: back for affordable money. I just wonder based on some 822 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,359 Speaker 1: the other decisions they have to make, you know, at 823 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,279 Speaker 1: positions like offensive line, where they've got four unrestricted free 824 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 1: agents and a restricted free agent, you know they're gonna 825 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 1: have to pay that person or two, depending on how 826 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 1: many they return. They may have to cut players from 827 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,399 Speaker 1: the roster to add on the defensive side of the ball, 828 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 1: where they are heavily invested in the defensive line position, 829 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 1: with six of the top eleven salaries going to defensive 830 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 1: lineman in terms of average annual value. Yeah, I don't 831 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 1: want to get caught up. I just wonder if they 832 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,319 Speaker 1: get caught between a rock and a hard place here. 833 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,799 Speaker 1: I'm sure they'd love to have Matt Barkley back. I 834 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 1: just wonder if the economics of a restrictive cap are 835 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,759 Speaker 1: going to allow. I'd think that's a I think the 836 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,360 Speaker 1: backup quarterbacks too high a priority. Now. I don't know. 837 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,359 Speaker 1: I'd be interested to hear from our listeners how much 838 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 1: credence they put into that week seventeen game against the Dolphins, 839 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 1: because he looked good and it's it gave me the belief. 840 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 1: It instilled in me the belief that if Josh Allen 841 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,239 Speaker 1: twists his ankle for a month and his out, that 842 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,280 Speaker 1: you don't have to say goodbye to the season. Barkley, 843 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,480 Speaker 1: come in, go go two and two, three and one 844 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,840 Speaker 1: in that stretch. That's kind of the ideal scenario. Right, 845 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,399 Speaker 1: if you want from your backup quarterback to at least 846 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,879 Speaker 1: go five hundred while your starters out right, So I'm 847 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 1: we can get into that down the road. But yeah, 848 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,360 Speaker 1: that's where I'm at. I love the way he played 849 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 1: against Miami in week seventeen. I think you owe him 850 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 1: a chance to stay and I got I know it's 851 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,239 Speaker 1: crazy to say it, but two million bucks for your 852 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,240 Speaker 1: backup quarterback, it's the most important backup player on the team. 853 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 1: Pay it. Brandon Bean calls him a selfless guy. He 854 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 1: said he's been big for our team culture. So Barkeley 855 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 1: has been a big blessing to the Buffalo Bills. We'll 856 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 1: see the business side where that ends up. All comes 857 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 1: down to the mighty dollar break time for us. When 858 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:49,320 Speaker 1: we return, we'll probably be introducing Sabers, GM, Kevin Adams 859 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 1: for the live press conference set to begin at the 860 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,360 Speaker 1: top of the hour. Back in a moment here on 861 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,720 Speaker 1: One Bills Live presented by Kali to Health, It's Buffalo 862 00:45:55,760 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 1: Bills Radio. At a Steve Tasker who has been all 863 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,719 Speaker 1: over the field, kind of unique. He was kind of 864 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:22,320 Speaker 1: a dual role player for you, Steve, Steve a blimp. 865 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 1: We're not even in the strated here of normalcy. Welcome 866 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,439 Speaker 1: to our number two of one bills Live. Chris Brown, 867 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,319 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you. We're waiting to go to the 868 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:39,319 Speaker 1: Sabers press conference momentarily with Sabers GM Kevin Adams, who 869 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 1: is no doubt going to be addressing the team's latest 870 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 1: COVID situation. Now nine players on their COVID protocol list, 871 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,239 Speaker 1: so it looks like they're ready, So we'll go to 872 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:53,399 Speaker 1: GM Kevin Adams right now. I guess just first of all, 873 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 1: hold everyone. I hope you guys are all doing well. 874 00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,120 Speaker 1: I think it's important that I start by saying I've 875 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:04,160 Speaker 1: been really proud of our players and staff and since 876 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 1: they want a training camp, how they've been following the protocol, 877 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 1: has really done, been disciplined. Are certainly our staff's gone 878 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,439 Speaker 1: a way above and beyond putting every measure in place 879 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,480 Speaker 1: that we can to protect our players. And so I 880 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 1: think it's important just to just to tell everyone that 881 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,400 Speaker 1: that I have been proud and how serious and our 882 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,840 Speaker 1: players have taken this. Obviously, unfortunately, we have a number 883 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:31,479 Speaker 1: of players and staff that are on the COVID protocol list. 884 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,879 Speaker 1: Some are symptomatic, some are asymptomatic. I can't get into 885 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,800 Speaker 1: a lot of the details, as you guys know, on 886 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,839 Speaker 1: any of that, but I will say that and I'm 887 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 1: certainly happy to answer questions there maybe things that I 888 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 1: can't get into specifics time, you know, but certainly happy 889 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,600 Speaker 1: to do the best I can to give all of 890 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,480 Speaker 1: you the information. So I just want to make sure 891 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 1: I got that out there, and you know, go ahead, 892 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:58,280 Speaker 1: go ahead, John, I guess why was that second game played? 893 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,440 Speaker 1: And how much was this might have been avoid if 894 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:07,279 Speaker 1: it hadn't been well, I think, um, from from my standpoint, 895 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,279 Speaker 1: John us it's important to back up a little bit 896 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 1: from that. I did have a conversation on Saturday before 897 00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,399 Speaker 1: the game with Bill Day and you know, I asked 898 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 1: some questions around exactly what the situation was and with 899 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 1: New Jersey and where we were at, and based on 900 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 1: the information um that he was given, uh, you know, 901 00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,200 Speaker 1: the games were decided to be played or the game 902 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 1: on Saturday was decided to be played, and you know, 903 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,320 Speaker 1: the one another thing I think it's important to mention, John, 904 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,080 Speaker 1: is that you know, there's a lot of people involved 905 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 1: in these discussions from it's really being run by the experts, 906 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:45,320 Speaker 1: the doctors, the league doctors, the NHLPA doctors are heavily involved, 907 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,960 Speaker 1: team doctors a number of times, the specialist, the experts, 908 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:50,880 Speaker 1: and I've certainly been reminded a number of times this 909 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,319 Speaker 1: week I'm not a doctor, so it's important to note 910 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,759 Speaker 1: that as well. Um, but you know, from the information 911 00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:02,000 Speaker 1: that was at that point presented Saturday, the comfort was 912 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,800 Speaker 1: that we should move forward and play the game on Sunday. 913 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,279 Speaker 1: I can't really say from my standpoint, you know, I 914 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,360 Speaker 1: didn't have any information, nothing had change that I was 915 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,040 Speaker 1: aware of, So anything that's come out or that's more imported, 916 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,280 Speaker 1: I you know, certainly, and where where I was didn't 917 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,520 Speaker 1: know anything. So but I still think it's important to 918 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:25,719 Speaker 1: note that the league, the doctors, everybody's doing everything they 919 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:30,799 Speaker 1: can to handle this as it's ever changing and evolving, 920 00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:35,200 Speaker 1: and nobody's doing anything that puts the players in a 921 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,640 Speaker 1: position where they don't think that they should be. It's 922 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,880 Speaker 1: just they're they're making the best decision they can in 923 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,600 Speaker 1: the moment. And then I think what you're going to 924 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,560 Speaker 1: see is that there's a lot of learning going on, 925 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:48,680 Speaker 1: and um, what happens. Will we learn from our situation 926 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 1: or the league learn and make changes as we go. 927 00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:59,440 Speaker 1: That's likely, all right, Kevin. Did any players express concern 928 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,719 Speaker 1: to you or anybody in the Hockey UPS department when 929 00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,839 Speaker 1: it came to that second game, because they did add 930 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,799 Speaker 1: a player to the list before that game who had 931 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:09,880 Speaker 1: traveled to Buffalo, who had been with the team on 932 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:15,480 Speaker 1: the bus. So just curious about that at this point. Yeah, 933 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,359 Speaker 1: you're talking about the second game, Lance, right, the Sunday game. Yeah, 934 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,719 Speaker 1: not that I knew, not that I know of. I 935 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,319 Speaker 1: was not aware, our coaches weren't aware. I'm not I 936 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:28,400 Speaker 1: don't believe that anyone knew going into the game Sunday 937 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:33,120 Speaker 1: that there was any sort of change. Obviously, going into 938 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,640 Speaker 1: the games, it was known that the player on their 939 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,880 Speaker 1: team either had you know, it was in the COVID protocol, 940 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,840 Speaker 1: so you know, all of a sudden, they're obviously his questions, 941 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,200 Speaker 1: and that's why I had the call on Saturday, just 942 00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,480 Speaker 1: to ask some questions and make sure I check in. 943 00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:53,520 Speaker 1: But no, none of that was brought up on Sunday. Hey, Kevin, 944 00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:59,560 Speaker 1: Adam Banini, I guess you mentioned learning that everyone's learning 945 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,880 Speaker 1: in the pro and it's not unlike what other sports 946 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,359 Speaker 1: have gone through. Obviously, when you look at how Major 947 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,680 Speaker 1: League Baseball started out with this, what the NFL dealt 948 00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,760 Speaker 1: with during the course of the season. But it seems 949 00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:11,879 Speaker 1: to me from everything I've read and heard that at 950 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:16,000 Speaker 1: the crux of this is the faulty assumption that in 951 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:20,600 Speaker 1: game transmission wasn't going to be an issue. Is that correct? 952 00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,240 Speaker 1: And as your view of that, and to what extent 953 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,320 Speaker 1: you can tell us your discussions with the league, has 954 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,040 Speaker 1: the overall kind of view of that changed based on 955 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,880 Speaker 1: what's happened here. Yeah, it's a it's a fair question, Adam. 956 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,759 Speaker 1: I think let me let me see again that it's 957 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,040 Speaker 1: probably important that I'm not the one that's an expert 958 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,799 Speaker 1: in this area. I'm not a doctor. And you know, 959 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,920 Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is there's a lot of 960 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,920 Speaker 1: people from the NHL, the NHLPA, the teams that are 961 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:51,640 Speaker 1: having these discussions, and I think, as I said before, 962 00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:55,440 Speaker 1: there's there's learning going on. Now. We hadn't had any cases, 963 00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 1: Our players have been incredibly disciplined. We come into a 964 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:03,319 Speaker 1: situation where potentially it was in the New Jersey locker room, 965 00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,480 Speaker 1: and now you know where we are where we are, 966 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:09,560 Speaker 1: so there's there's certainly the ability to connect the dots, 967 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,719 Speaker 1: But I don't want in any way to it where 968 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying that it's happening anyway. I think we have 969 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:16,680 Speaker 1: to let time play out. We have to let the 970 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,160 Speaker 1: contact tracing playout. We have to let the doctors be 971 00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,040 Speaker 1: the experts, and then we'll know. And as soon as 972 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 1: that information is shared, UM, you know, I'm sure it'll 973 00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,879 Speaker 1: come come back to the organization. And I will say 974 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:30,399 Speaker 1: the communication has been excellent with the National Hockey League, 975 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,640 Speaker 1: and I've had daily calls with UM with Bill, daily 976 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,440 Speaker 1: constant communication. There's been UM, you know, everything's been shared 977 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:41,600 Speaker 1: and transparent. And there's also a number of calls that 978 00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,360 Speaker 1: I get brought into later that the doctors have discussed 979 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,759 Speaker 1: certain situations what's going on, and then you know, I 980 00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,520 Speaker 1: get the kind of the notes after that. So there 981 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 1: is a lot of work being done behind the scenes 982 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,399 Speaker 1: to make sure they're doing everything they can to keep 983 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:57,840 Speaker 1: the players and the coaches and the staff say all right, Kevin, 984 00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:01,839 Speaker 1: we understand the situation about what you can and can't 985 00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:05,960 Speaker 1: say without the player about the players, the organization announced 986 00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:09,160 Speaker 1: Ralph had a positive case. What can you tell us 987 00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,000 Speaker 1: about his health status at this point and how are 988 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,120 Speaker 1: you moving forward with the coaching on this club, if 989 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,560 Speaker 1: he's going to be unavailable when you start playing games. Yeah, 990 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,040 Speaker 1: so you know, the reason we did get that out 991 00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,560 Speaker 1: there about Ralph in particular was he was comfortable with that. 992 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,640 Speaker 1: You know, as you guys know the rules around the players, 993 00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,799 Speaker 1: whether it's they just were close contact or they're you know, 994 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:34,200 Speaker 1: we're not giving that information out. But Ralph is symptomatic. 995 00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:39,080 Speaker 1: He is, you know, I've talked to him multiple times 996 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:43,200 Speaker 1: every day. I feel very comfortable that he's being looked 997 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:47,759 Speaker 1: after from our our our doctors and trainers. We'll have 998 00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,799 Speaker 1: to see yet where we go from here as we 999 00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:55,040 Speaker 1: get into next week. We certainly hope that Ralph's asymptomatic 1000 00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,360 Speaker 1: and comes out of the protocols and he's he's ready 1001 00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,600 Speaker 1: to go when we play our next game. But well, 1002 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,960 Speaker 1: I'm not quite ready to get into that yet because 1003 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,440 Speaker 1: we're not. We'll have to just see where where Ralph is. 1004 00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,680 Speaker 1: But as soon as I have a little bit more information, 1005 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:13,880 Speaker 1: I definitely will make sure we present that to everyone. Kevin, 1006 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,399 Speaker 1: We've we've seen the team statement as well as your 1007 00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:20,319 Speaker 1: statements here regarding repeatedly saying you feel the players and 1008 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,600 Speaker 1: the team and staff have really adhered to the protocolls here. 1009 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:28,759 Speaker 1: So where does your level of frustration sit? Where it 1010 00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:30,920 Speaker 1: seems and you can correct me if I'm wrong that 1011 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,640 Speaker 1: you guys feel as an organization you've done everything in 1012 00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:37,399 Speaker 1: your power to avoid something like this. Well, I think 1013 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,200 Speaker 1: you have to be careful a little bit on the 1014 00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:44,160 Speaker 1: word frustrated. Like, we are in a incredibly challenging situation 1015 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:48,640 Speaker 1: worldwide and this is evolving, it's changing, there's different strains. 1016 00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,600 Speaker 1: I mean, everybody is doing their best to manage this 1017 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:55,200 Speaker 1: and keep up. I think the important part is learning 1018 00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,920 Speaker 1: and understanding what happened, which we still don't have all 1019 00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,200 Speaker 1: the information exactly kind of how this all play out? Um. 1020 00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,000 Speaker 1: And then to me, you have to be careful with 1021 00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:07,400 Speaker 1: that word because it's about moving forward and how do 1022 00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,239 Speaker 1: we not let this happen again? And what can we 1023 00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:13,280 Speaker 1: do differently? What can anyone that was involved do differently? 1024 00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,520 Speaker 1: And then how do we rally around this as a team. 1025 00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,359 Speaker 1: What's what's critical here? And this is something that I've 1026 00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:22,080 Speaker 1: you know, had a conversation just recently with the team 1027 00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:25,920 Speaker 1: about is this is about us we're bringing rallying together 1028 00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,960 Speaker 1: and bringing ourselves as a group into caring about each 1029 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,560 Speaker 1: other and saying, Man, these guys that aren't with us 1030 00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,640 Speaker 1: right now, we gotta we got to support them, We 1031 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,040 Speaker 1: got to get healthy, we gotta, you know, really pull 1032 00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:40,560 Speaker 1: together and this this fight as a buffalo savers organization 1033 00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,080 Speaker 1: together and our you know, our fan base and just 1034 00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,760 Speaker 1: kind of use that. So that's what I'm more interested 1035 00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:49,640 Speaker 1: rather than kind of looking back and being frustrated or upset. 1036 00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,160 Speaker 1: It's more about let's move forward and let's let's do 1037 00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:59,560 Speaker 1: this together. Kevin. The new protocols, including having the space 1038 00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,560 Speaker 1: in the locker rooms, how are you going to accomplish 1039 00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,880 Speaker 1: that your locker room, I can see it happening. The 1040 00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,400 Speaker 1: visiting room is going to be very difficult. Are you 1041 00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,680 Speaker 1: going to have to open up more rooms on that 1042 00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:15,080 Speaker 1: level so you can have more spacing for your two teams? Yeah, Paul, 1043 00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,960 Speaker 1: it's a it's ah. You brought up a point that 1044 00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:21,640 Speaker 1: many people overlook. It's one thing. A lot of the 1045 00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:26,160 Speaker 1: home facilities in the home dressing rooms, the ability to 1046 00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,919 Speaker 1: space and to do things that you can the road 1047 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,360 Speaker 1: is the challenging part. Right, Like you you've been in 1048 00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,960 Speaker 1: Washington's locker room. You know how small that is, Like, 1049 00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,080 Speaker 1: so what is going to happen. We're going to adhere 1050 00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:40,440 Speaker 1: to every single UM protocol that the NHL puts in 1051 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,880 Speaker 1: front of us. We're work, We've already done some of 1052 00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:46,040 Speaker 1: that and as to prepare for this day to be ready, UM, 1053 00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:47,960 Speaker 1: we all want the same thing. We all want our 1054 00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,040 Speaker 1: players to be safe, we all our staff to be 1055 00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,239 Speaker 1: safe and healthy. But you're right, it's it's not just 1056 00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:57,239 Speaker 1: about the home locker room. It's it's what happens when 1057 00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,200 Speaker 1: you go on the road, whether what other measures can 1058 00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,560 Speaker 1: you take on what other measures the organization takes. So 1059 00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,239 Speaker 1: m as recently as a couple hours ago, I talked 1060 00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,799 Speaker 1: to UM our quick manager to ask, Okay, so what 1061 00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:09,799 Speaker 1: are other teams in our division doing, and how are 1062 00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,319 Speaker 1: we how are we not just worrying about ourselves at home, 1063 00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,960 Speaker 1: but what's being done when we go on the road. So, UM, 1064 00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,600 Speaker 1: we owe that to each other. We owe that as 1065 00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,600 Speaker 1: a as a national hockey league, as a group, we 1066 00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:21,760 Speaker 1: owe that to each other and within the group, you know, 1067 00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,800 Speaker 1: to make sure that we're also putting players that come 1068 00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,360 Speaker 1: into our building and the best possible position to stay safe. 1069 00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,520 Speaker 1: So it's a great question, Paul, and I don't have 1070 00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:31,680 Speaker 1: a great answer, but we're we're working on what we 1071 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,280 Speaker 1: can control right now and doing that here in our 1072 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:38,760 Speaker 1: our arena, and then we'll go from there. Kevin, John 1073 00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,520 Speaker 1: Warrell with the AP, I'm glad to see that you're 1074 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:45,120 Speaker 1: safe giving them all that's going going on. I've got 1075 00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:48,120 Speaker 1: a bit of a two part question. The first is 1076 00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:52,280 Speaker 1: whether the NHILS informed teams or yourself and um, you're 1077 00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:57,200 Speaker 1: gonna have to prioritize winning percentage points um or if 1078 00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,400 Speaker 1: that's going to become a possibility, and whether you've shared 1079 00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,120 Speaker 1: that with your play years. And the second would be 1080 00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,560 Speaker 1: based on the discussion you've had with the NHL and 1081 00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:08,160 Speaker 1: the experts and what you know now as opposed to 1082 00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:11,280 Speaker 1: what everybody knew back then. Do you think what you 1083 00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:17,320 Speaker 1: know now what that game on Sunday have been played today? Well, 1084 00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,600 Speaker 1: I'll start with the first question, John, I think we are. 1085 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:24,360 Speaker 1: You know, as I said, this has been daily conversations 1086 00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:26,600 Speaker 1: as of now, the goal of the National Hockey League 1087 00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,280 Speaker 1: is to play the entire season out, our schedule out, 1088 00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,320 Speaker 1: every game out and we are preparing for that, and 1089 00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:37,040 Speaker 1: we're also preparing our players mentally that just because now 1090 00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,160 Speaker 1: we've been off for a little while doesn't mean the 1091 00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,120 Speaker 1: season goes longer, it means the grind actually picks up, 1092 00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,760 Speaker 1: and how do we do that and how do we 1093 00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:48,480 Speaker 1: work through that together? So we'll certainly adjust if we're told. 1094 00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,400 Speaker 1: But right now, John, we're We've never been mentioned to 1095 00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,160 Speaker 1: me or anyone in the organization about anything other than 1096 00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:59,320 Speaker 1: a fifty six game schedule and going from there. And sorry, 1097 00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:04,560 Speaker 1: what was your second question? Based on what you what 1098 00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:09,360 Speaker 1: everybody knows now in hindsight what that game? I mean, 1099 00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,280 Speaker 1: how much is the NHL in maybe the savers learn 1100 00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,000 Speaker 1: from what happened and what that game have been played 1101 00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:19,040 Speaker 1: today based on what you everybody knows now? Yeah, John, 1102 00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,960 Speaker 1: it's a it's a really tough thing to answer. I 1103 00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,760 Speaker 1: think we're learning. Um. And I do know that the 1104 00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,760 Speaker 1: tracing that goes on to say, okay, what are the 1105 00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:34,080 Speaker 1: different strains out there and what's the science behind it. 1106 00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,560 Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of those answers are those 1107 00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:41,600 Speaker 1: questions have been answered yet. Um. And I'll say this again, Um, Sometimes, 1108 00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,240 Speaker 1: especially with this virus, it feels like when when people 1109 00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:47,080 Speaker 1: the experts have got a handle on it, it changes quickly. 1110 00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:51,000 Speaker 1: So based on you know, what we learn, would they 1111 00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,360 Speaker 1: go back and say we would have done something different possibly, 1112 00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:56,439 Speaker 1: but I think based on everything that we've been told, 1113 00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,000 Speaker 1: and I promise you this the we all want the 1114 00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:02,120 Speaker 1: same thing. We all want our players to be safe, healthy, 1115 01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,880 Speaker 1: to get through this and to eventually get fans and 1116 01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,880 Speaker 1: abilitings and get back. But I think everybody's doing their 1117 01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,720 Speaker 1: best to work together on that. And again, I want 1118 01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,360 Speaker 1: to drive the point home that a lot of us 1119 01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:16,360 Speaker 1: that are involved in the hockey ops or from the 1120 01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,680 Speaker 1: lead perspective, you know, we're having a lot of conversations, 1121 01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,320 Speaker 1: we're learning, we're getting information, but it's really the medical 1122 01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:24,360 Speaker 1: and the experts that are the ones driving a lot 1123 01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:26,080 Speaker 1: of these decisions, and that's what it should be. I mean, 1124 01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,360 Speaker 1: they're the ones that understand the most and so we're 1125 01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:34,080 Speaker 1: leaning certainly on them heavily. Kevin, Could there potentially be 1126 01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:37,520 Speaker 1: a promotion if Relphant this is any time to the 1127 01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,440 Speaker 1: coaching staff, or could there be some sort of change 1128 01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:44,280 Speaker 1: they're just someone to fill in. Yeah, I think it's 1129 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,960 Speaker 1: it's premature to get there because we're just going to 1130 01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:51,720 Speaker 1: see where we're at here. I think what's what's again, 1131 01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:55,000 Speaker 1: let me say this, we're all making sure that we're 1132 01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,360 Speaker 1: trying to do everything we can to keep each other safe, 1133 01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:01,760 Speaker 1: and Ralph Krueger is being looked after and we want 1134 01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:05,880 Speaker 1: to just start with that. So if he is where 1135 01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:07,360 Speaker 1: we need him to be and he's able to get 1136 01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:09,600 Speaker 1: out of the protocols and be back, then he will be. 1137 01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,400 Speaker 1: And if and if he's not, the doctors are going 1138 01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:15,720 Speaker 1: to decide where and when that happens, we'll adjust. So 1139 01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:18,080 Speaker 1: what we will do is we'll do it. We'll do 1140 01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:21,640 Speaker 1: it together. The players will understand exactly why decisions are 1141 01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,720 Speaker 1: made and we'll react accordingly, and then we'll move forward together. 1142 01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,520 Speaker 1: But Um, and that obviously, any information like that I 1143 01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:29,680 Speaker 1: would share, and you know, we'll get back in front 1144 01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:32,320 Speaker 1: of you, of all of you at the appropriate time. 1145 01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:36,080 Speaker 1: But right now we're just making sure that we're supporting 1146 01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:40,680 Speaker 1: Ralph and hoping that he gets back quickly. As you said, 1147 01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,040 Speaker 1: you're learning a lot, and there's obviously there's other teams 1148 01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,520 Speaker 1: right now that are learning a lot. Um. You said, 1149 01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:47,840 Speaker 1: the whole the hope is to have a full fifty 1150 01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,040 Speaker 1: six games with given what you know and what other 1151 01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:52,760 Speaker 1: situations are, do you think that's possible for the league 1152 01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:56,120 Speaker 1: to have a full season this year? Well, so, I 1153 01:01:56,160 --> 01:02:01,640 Speaker 1: think I think based on what you saw another sports John, Um, 1154 01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:04,919 Speaker 1: as the NHL went into this season, they certainly were 1155 01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:09,400 Speaker 1: understanding that this could have happened right and potentially building 1156 01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:11,560 Speaker 1: in a little bit of time if if games needed 1157 01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,880 Speaker 1: to be pushed in a little bit down the back end. 1158 01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,880 Speaker 1: We'll see. Obviously, you guys saw what happened with the 1159 01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:21,560 Speaker 1: four games that were originally postponed. It's not as simple 1160 01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:25,400 Speaker 1: as just plugging four games, and it completely changed the schedule, 1161 01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:28,640 Speaker 1: and but it didn't back it up. So if if 1162 01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,760 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not sure how much you know the 1163 01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:35,000 Speaker 1: the NHL would want to push those games into May, 1164 01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:37,439 Speaker 1: but um, you know I do. I do know from 1165 01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,720 Speaker 1: conversations with Gary Bevan and Bill Daily like the it's 1166 01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:43,600 Speaker 1: critical that, um, you know, they feel the integrity this 1167 01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:46,040 Speaker 1: season is there. And you know, so that's not been 1168 01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,600 Speaker 1: brought up to myself or any anyone else in our 1169 01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:52,200 Speaker 1: organization about anything different than fifty six games. But we'll react, 1170 01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:55,640 Speaker 1: you know, if that changes, Um, we'll adjust and well, 1171 01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,360 Speaker 1: you know, we'll do our best to move to the 1172 01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:03,440 Speaker 1: next whatever we're told to do. Kevin, what are you 1173 01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:08,520 Speaker 1: hearing and feeling from your players? How worried are they? Yeah? 1174 01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:12,280 Speaker 1: I I that's a great question, Brian, and I I'm 1175 01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:15,240 Speaker 1: glad you asked that because the first thing I thought 1176 01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:18,800 Speaker 1: of when you know, the news kind of all started, 1177 01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,360 Speaker 1: um whatever it's been now a week or a little 1178 01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:23,960 Speaker 1: over a week ago, was you know, how how do 1179 01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,760 Speaker 1: our players feel? What are they thinking about? And you know, 1180 01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:29,240 Speaker 1: where are they at mentally? And obviously over the last week, 1181 01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:31,400 Speaker 1: I've had a lot of conversations and talk to players 1182 01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:34,840 Speaker 1: and checked in with them, and I believe the spirit 1183 01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,480 Speaker 1: of our group is really really good right now. They're 1184 01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:41,800 Speaker 1: certainly worried and care about the players that potentially, you know, 1185 01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,560 Speaker 1: are whether like I said earlier, could be symptomatic, and 1186 01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:47,240 Speaker 1: they they they want, they wonder and they're hoping and 1187 01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:50,640 Speaker 1: checking in with them. Um. But you know, just being 1188 01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:53,120 Speaker 1: now allowed in the facility today, this is our first 1189 01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:56,200 Speaker 1: time back, as you all know, based on the doctors 1190 01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,280 Speaker 1: um kind of advice and where we're at with all 1191 01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:03,560 Speaker 1: the testing U. The spirit of the group is really 1192 01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:07,200 Speaker 1: strong right now, and I sense a relief to be 1193 01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,480 Speaker 1: back in our building and to be able to go 1194 01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:11,640 Speaker 1: on the ice and practice. And I also sense a 1195 01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:17,360 Speaker 1: opportunity for this group to pull together and to say okay, this, 1196 01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:20,480 Speaker 1: This is challenging, This this happened. It's unfortunate, but we're 1197 01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:23,800 Speaker 1: going to rally together and do you know, go to work. 1198 01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:25,720 Speaker 1: And part of the message to the group that I 1199 01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:29,120 Speaker 1: had was certainly, don't expect anyone to feel sorry for us. 1200 01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,680 Speaker 1: You know, we're we have to get through this, and 1201 01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:37,760 Speaker 1: we have to do it together. Kevin, you mentioned in 1202 01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:41,920 Speaker 1: your opening remarks that you had some staff involved. Also, 1203 01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:45,160 Speaker 1: I'm assuming that's you know, hockey related staff. Do you 1204 01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:48,680 Speaker 1: have you know, two people in protocol or twenty And 1205 01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:51,080 Speaker 1: then my other question would simply be, do you have 1206 01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:53,960 Speaker 1: to consider taking Donny Granando off the bench because of 1207 01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,920 Speaker 1: what he went through, you know, fourteen months ago. Yeah, 1208 01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:00,360 Speaker 1: so I'll start with the second question, you know, Donnie 1209 01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:05,720 Speaker 1: Granado or anyone else. To me, safety and in caring 1210 01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:10,040 Speaker 1: about the people is extremely important, way more important than 1211 01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:13,120 Speaker 1: trying to figure out anything on the ice. We have 1212 01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:15,360 Speaker 1: to look after our staff, we have to look after 1213 01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:17,560 Speaker 1: our players, we have to support him in every way. 1214 01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:22,720 Speaker 1: So I've had some just real honest conversations with Donnie. 1215 01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:24,840 Speaker 1: I know that Ralph has as well, and we're going 1216 01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,120 Speaker 1: to kind of see how this plays out over the 1217 01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:31,600 Speaker 1: next few days. But he's he's an incredibly important part 1218 01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:34,200 Speaker 1: of our staff, but he also can do a lot 1219 01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:37,040 Speaker 1: of his job in in other ways. So do we 1220 01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:40,240 Speaker 1: do We see if he goes upstairs and not behind 1221 01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,280 Speaker 1: the bench. Will make those calls as we get closer, 1222 01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:45,640 Speaker 1: but ultimately it'll be it'll be us supporting Donnie to 1223 01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:48,240 Speaker 1: what he feels the most comfortable with based on you know, 1224 01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:51,480 Speaker 1: what he's been through in the past, and in terms 1225 01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:53,640 Speaker 1: of other staff. Honestly, Mike, I just I can't I 1226 01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:55,560 Speaker 1: can't get into it, but I can just say that 1227 01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:59,560 Speaker 1: there is staff as well as players in the COVID protocols. 1228 01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:04,600 Speaker 1: But you know, this is a small group, and you know, 1229 01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:07,560 Speaker 1: you know how the almost the group of players, you 1230 01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:10,120 Speaker 1: have a lot of different people that are doing different jobs. 1231 01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:13,640 Speaker 1: So it is it is hit more than just the 1232 01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:19,680 Speaker 1: COVID protocols have hit more than just the players. Keevan, 1233 01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:22,960 Speaker 1: What gave you the comfort to allow your players to 1234 01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:26,080 Speaker 1: come out of quarantine today and to get on the ice. 1235 01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:28,520 Speaker 1: I mean you have to be comfortable with it. They 1236 01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:30,840 Speaker 1: have to be comfortable with it. What gave you that 1237 01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:34,520 Speaker 1: comfort level to allow them to get back out there today? Yeah, 1238 01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:38,240 Speaker 1: it's it's a great question. The doctors ultimately gave me 1239 01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:42,040 Speaker 1: the comfort that based on the science and based on 1240 01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:47,120 Speaker 1: the contact tracing and exactly when positive cases had come 1241 01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:52,600 Speaker 1: out or most contact cases that come out, that they 1242 01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:56,960 Speaker 1: were comfortable if the if the PCR test from yesterday 1243 01:06:57,080 --> 01:07:00,240 Speaker 1: and the POC test I'm learning a lot here poll 1244 01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:05,520 Speaker 1: with all my uh POC tests from today, team negative, 1245 01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:08,680 Speaker 1: which everybody took early this morning, and that was the 1246 01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:13,600 Speaker 1: case that they felt comfortable opening the facility. And you know, 1247 01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:18,160 Speaker 1: the original guidance was that we potentially could have practiced 1248 01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:21,479 Speaker 1: last night even um, but we felt like, let's let's 1249 01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:24,160 Speaker 1: give this one more day to just be even um 1250 01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:27,040 Speaker 1: that much more air on the side of caution. UM. 1251 01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:29,200 Speaker 1: But no, I do feel based on all of that 1252 01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:31,680 Speaker 1: and the evidence and the science that that we are 1253 01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:38,000 Speaker 1: comfortable in the facility and practicing today. Hi Kevin, this 1254 01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:42,720 Speaker 1: is in Montreal. I know you were asked earlier if 1255 01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:47,080 Speaker 1: it's realistic to to aim for a fixed fifty six 1256 01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:50,640 Speaker 1: game schedule, but I was just wondering, how realistic is 1257 01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:55,320 Speaker 1: it with with no additional measures, um, given I guess 1258 01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:58,640 Speaker 1: the spread of the virus in the general population, because 1259 01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:01,360 Speaker 1: you have players, you have staff of family members who 1260 01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:04,160 Speaker 1: have kids who are in school. Uh. And I'm just 1261 01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:06,880 Speaker 1: wondering if you see any additional measures that can be 1262 01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:10,840 Speaker 1: taken this sort of um guarantee that should that should 1263 01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,560 Speaker 1: do play a full schedule. Yeah, I think it's it's 1264 01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:16,000 Speaker 1: it's a it's a good point. I think what you've 1265 01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:18,160 Speaker 1: seen in other leagues if you followed it close, is 1266 01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:22,040 Speaker 1: they have learned and changed protocols and measures as they've 1267 01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:27,160 Speaker 1: gone along in seasons. So we're certainly seeing that right now. Um, 1268 01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:30,800 Speaker 1: will that look different in a month from now? Um, potentially. 1269 01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,080 Speaker 1: I can tell you that, you know, when we're we're 1270 01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:36,680 Speaker 1: there's pretty strict protocols right now. When we're on the road, 1271 01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:39,920 Speaker 1: you're not really leaving your hotel room. Um, you're you know, 1272 01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,479 Speaker 1: you're really tight with certain things you're allowed to do. 1273 01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,120 Speaker 1: But you bring up a good point. There's there's the 1274 01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:48,679 Speaker 1: people around the organization. You're when you're at home. UM, 1275 01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:51,760 Speaker 1: many players, many staff have families. Your families are doing 1276 01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:55,800 Speaker 1: certain things. So it's, uh, it's it's what we're in 1277 01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:59,040 Speaker 1: and will it evolve and change likely? But I do 1278 01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:00,920 Speaker 1: think that the NH I was going to, you know, 1279 01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:03,479 Speaker 1: do everything they can to keep up with that to 1280 01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:07,280 Speaker 1: make the proper adjustments based on the science behind it, 1281 01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:09,880 Speaker 1: and then UM, do everything they can to get the 1282 01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:15,720 Speaker 1: full schedule on. Hey, Kevin, before the last two postponements, 1283 01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:18,439 Speaker 1: you guys were playing like something like forty six games 1284 01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:22,360 Speaker 1: in eighty six days. I mean, you know, virus concerns aside. 1285 01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:25,120 Speaker 1: That's going to take a mental and physical toll on 1286 01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:27,880 Speaker 1: your team. And what's your level of concern about And 1287 01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:32,200 Speaker 1: there's some weeks where you're playing five games, there's travel involved. UM, 1288 01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:35,760 Speaker 1: your thoughts, well, we're you know, we're all in the 1289 01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:40,120 Speaker 1: same boat lands honestly, like in toss across the entire league. UM, 1290 01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:43,479 Speaker 1: there's it's it's definitely going to be a grind. UM. 1291 01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:45,720 Speaker 1: I think part of it is to lean on our 1292 01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:48,320 Speaker 1: sports performance staff. What do the players need to be 1293 01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:52,559 Speaker 1: at optimal? Um, you know for the game time? What 1294 01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:55,040 Speaker 1: do we do in between days? How do we travel 1295 01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:58,680 Speaker 1: to to help the players? Um, you know, recover, what 1296 01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:00,479 Speaker 1: can we do can we tweak our t well just 1297 01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:03,240 Speaker 1: to do little things to help in any way that 1298 01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:05,599 Speaker 1: We're going to look at all of that, UM. And 1299 01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:08,240 Speaker 1: then we we've said from day one of training camp 1300 01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:13,759 Speaker 1: to the entire organization guys, this is a unique situation. Nobody, 1301 01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:17,479 Speaker 1: nobody's going to make any excuses in this organization. We 1302 01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:19,240 Speaker 1: have to go out and we have to we have 1303 01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:22,040 Speaker 1: to be mentally prepared to compete every night. But we 1304 01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:25,479 Speaker 1: also talk to the entire organization about we may need 1305 01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:28,679 Speaker 1: more players, we may have a situation where we need 1306 01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:31,800 Speaker 1: to pull guys up from Rochester the taxi and just 1307 01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:35,519 Speaker 1: have everybody be ready to go. So, um, you know, 1308 01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:39,040 Speaker 1: obviously we'll make that, you know, assessment over the coming days. 1309 01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:41,160 Speaker 1: But I think the message has been clear from day 1310 01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:43,360 Speaker 1: one and training camp and you know, we'll we'll see. 1311 01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:47,400 Speaker 1: It's tough though, you know it's as a player. Um, 1312 01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:52,000 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes people don't understand that it's not just 1313 01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:53,960 Speaker 1: you show up and play a game seven o'clock. You know, 1314 01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:55,880 Speaker 1: there's a lot that goes into it. And you know, 1315 01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:57,479 Speaker 1: we're gonna ask a lot of our players, but we're 1316 01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:00,679 Speaker 1: also going to support them and you know, the players today, 1317 01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:03,200 Speaker 1: we are in this together and we're going to do 1318 01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:06,439 Speaker 1: everything as a staff, as a coaching staff, our support 1319 01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:10,200 Speaker 1: staff around the team to give them every opportunity to 1320 01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:12,559 Speaker 1: have success. And that's all we can do right now, 1321 01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:17,160 Speaker 1: all right, that's Sabers GM Kevin Adams addressing the media 1322 01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:20,000 Speaker 1: still still going on right now, but answering obviously a 1323 01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:23,840 Speaker 1: lot of questions surrounding the COVID protocol situation. That the 1324 01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:26,759 Speaker 1: team is facing with nine players on the COVID protocol 1325 01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:29,760 Speaker 1: list doesn't mean all of them are positive, although Adams 1326 01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:33,320 Speaker 1: did divulge that some of them are symptomatic, others are asymptomatic, 1327 01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:35,880 Speaker 1: and some might just be close contacts. We don't know 1328 01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:39,439 Speaker 1: the exact breakdown due to hippo rules and laws that 1329 01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:45,880 Speaker 1: exist in giving specific diagnoses on players. Kevin Adams saying 1330 01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:49,920 Speaker 1: they revealed that Ralph Krueger tested positive because the coach 1331 01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:53,160 Speaker 1: was comfortable with them revealing that information. And then finally 1332 01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:56,679 Speaker 1: he basically said that they aired on the side of caution, 1333 01:11:56,760 --> 01:12:00,920 Speaker 1: actually going an extra day before they open the facility 1334 01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:04,400 Speaker 1: back up to practice, which is happening this afternoon. So 1335 01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:06,439 Speaker 1: that kind of is the nuts and bolts of what 1336 01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:08,880 Speaker 1: Kevin Adams covered. Steve and I will take a break, 1337 01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:12,000 Speaker 1: but when we come back, we will have one Tyler Dunn, 1338 01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:17,120 Speaker 1: who is from his new Golong website where he does 1339 01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:19,960 Speaker 1: a lot of NFL feature stories. We'll talk to him 1340 01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:22,640 Speaker 1: about that as well as the NFL landscape as we 1341 01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:26,519 Speaker 1: hit the NFL off season. Steve and I back with 1342 01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:29,439 Speaker 1: Tyler Dunn next here on One Bill's Drive. One Bill's Drive, 1343 01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:32,280 Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health. This is Buffalo 1344 01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:45,240 Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Second half 1345 01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:47,760 Speaker 1: of the show underway. Chris Brown, Steve Castor, and he's 1346 01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:51,479 Speaker 1: just finishing up his snack here. During the Sabers press 1347 01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:53,840 Speaker 1: conference that just wrapped up here, they addressed all their 1348 01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:56,840 Speaker 1: COVID issues that they're dealing with GM Kevin Adams. So 1349 01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,040 Speaker 1: we were on a hiatus there for a short spell, 1350 01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:01,400 Speaker 1: but we are back now and joining us on the 1351 01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:06,040 Speaker 1: line is NFL features writer and founder of the Golong 1352 01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:10,280 Speaker 1: website golongtd dot com and co hosted the Golong Podcast. 1353 01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:14,599 Speaker 1: It is one Tyler Done joining us here on the line. Tyler, 1354 01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:17,439 Speaker 1: how you doing guy, Good to see you. Great to 1355 01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:20,240 Speaker 1: see you guys, Thanks so much for having me here. Yeah, So, 1356 01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:24,920 Speaker 1: I know you're always busy, especially during football season, and 1357 01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:28,080 Speaker 1: I found one of your recent write ups on Devin 1358 01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:32,400 Speaker 1: White pretty prophetic in how everything turned out in the 1359 01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:35,240 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. You know, as you usually do, you did 1360 01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:37,120 Speaker 1: a deep dive on him with some of his former 1361 01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:40,000 Speaker 1: college teammates, and man, the guy proved to have a 1362 01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:43,599 Speaker 1: major impact in the Super Bowl along with Shack Barrett. 1363 01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:45,160 Speaker 1: I was kind of shock, Tyler, and I don't know 1364 01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:47,240 Speaker 1: where you come down on this, And I know the 1365 01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:49,920 Speaker 1: MVP usually goes to a quarterback, but I thought you 1366 01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:54,120 Speaker 1: really had a major case to give it to a 1367 01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:57,160 Speaker 1: defensive player, maybe Shack Barrett or Devin White. Where'd you 1368 01:13:57,160 --> 01:14:02,080 Speaker 1: come down on that? It's when everybody is basically perfect 1369 01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:04,599 Speaker 1: on that Tampa Bay defense, right, I'm not sure who 1370 01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:07,320 Speaker 1: stood out more than who. I mean, Shack Barrett, four 1371 01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:10,080 Speaker 1: quarterback hits, Devin White just all over the place. You know, 1372 01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:11,720 Speaker 1: you probably give it to him if you're given it 1373 01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:15,559 Speaker 1: to somebody on that defense, sidelined the sideline, twenty two 1374 01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:19,080 Speaker 1: years old, very very young, and does not play very 1375 01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:22,240 Speaker 1: very young. You know, it's wild. You look through history 1376 01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:25,880 Speaker 1: with the draft for ten years, since Aaron Curry just 1377 01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:29,000 Speaker 1: completely busted out out of Wake Forest in the top five, 1378 01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:31,880 Speaker 1: you didn't see an inside linebacker go in the top 1379 01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:35,240 Speaker 1: five picks until Devin White. And I think that's why 1380 01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:37,800 Speaker 1: Jason White, you know, basically keeps his job and is 1381 01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:40,360 Speaker 1: one of the best executives in the NFL. Is. Yeah, 1382 01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:43,120 Speaker 1: he kind of screwed up there at quarterback with Jameis Winston, 1383 01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:46,240 Speaker 1: but nailed everything else. And he nailed that pick pick 1384 01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:48,439 Speaker 1: and as you see, I mean, it was one player 1385 01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:50,960 Speaker 1: after another on that defense, step and up. There's just 1386 01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:53,439 Speaker 1: no weakness on that Tampa Bay d Does it give 1387 01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:56,040 Speaker 1: you any sense? And we had this conversation earlier in 1388 01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:59,040 Speaker 1: the show, and you know, after the Bills AFC Championship 1389 01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:00,800 Speaker 1: game against the chief thing, Wow, the Bills have got 1390 01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:03,920 Speaker 1: a ways to go to beat that Chiefs team. I 1391 01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:07,360 Speaker 1: don't really necessarily feel that way now. I think it's 1392 01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:09,719 Speaker 1: just a question. The Chiefs played very well on AFC 1393 01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:12,240 Speaker 1: Championships Sunday. The Bills didn't play their best, much like 1394 01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:14,840 Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens didn't play their best when they came 1395 01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:18,080 Speaker 1: to Orchard Park the week before. It comes down to 1396 01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:20,519 Speaker 1: being a week to week league where if you don't 1397 01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:22,360 Speaker 1: play well, any of these teams at this level of 1398 01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:24,800 Speaker 1: the season are gonna beat you. And certainly the Bucks 1399 01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:29,240 Speaker 1: played really well against the Chiefs. Yeah, you know, guilty 1400 01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:32,080 Speaker 1: as charged. I just figured Patrick Mahomes was that ultimate 1401 01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:34,799 Speaker 1: Trump cart you know. I mean, they've got Patrick Mahomes 1402 01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:38,000 Speaker 1: nobody else in the league does. Eventually, he's just gonna 1403 01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:40,599 Speaker 1: basically do what he did, but complete those passes when 1404 01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:43,960 Speaker 1: he's running for five hundred yards in his own backfield. 1405 01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:46,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, Tampa Bay was just the better team. And 1406 01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:49,519 Speaker 1: I think that you do. You can take a little 1407 01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:50,960 Speaker 1: bit of hope out of that Super Bowl, right if 1408 01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:54,360 Speaker 1: you're the Bills, because obviously the Chiefs, they're composed of 1409 01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:58,280 Speaker 1: human beings. Patrick Mahomes is not a robot, just throwing 1410 01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:01,519 Speaker 1: for three four hundred yards a game, pulling off miraculous 1411 01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:04,040 Speaker 1: play off miraculous play. But I'll say this, Steve, the 1412 01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:06,519 Speaker 1: Bucks had the horses to do it. I mean, they 1413 01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:10,080 Speaker 1: have scary dudes on that defensive line. I know Todd 1414 01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:11,719 Speaker 1: Bowles is getting a lot of credit, as he should, 1415 01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:14,400 Speaker 1: he should be a head coach. I don't necessarily think 1416 01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:17,000 Speaker 1: their game plan, at least up front, was that much 1417 01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:19,840 Speaker 1: different than the Bills. I mean, they just they won 1418 01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:22,479 Speaker 1: their one on one matchups. They pressured Patrick Mahomes, They 1419 01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:25,000 Speaker 1: were able to play some different coverages on the back end, 1420 01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:27,439 Speaker 1: and I think if you're the Bills, that's where you 1421 01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:29,839 Speaker 1: have to start this offseason. If you're looking to pay somebody, 1422 01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:32,000 Speaker 1: I mean, look at a unique and gaway. Look look 1423 01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:34,479 Speaker 1: at a bud dupri You know you're gonna have to 1424 01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:36,760 Speaker 1: pay a little bit more, but maybe you shed some 1425 01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:39,519 Speaker 1: salary elsewhere to so you're able to do it. Because 1426 01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:44,200 Speaker 1: a legit pass rusher just means everything in this sleeve. Yeah, 1427 01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:46,679 Speaker 1: and Tyler, we were discussing that on the show yesterday, 1428 01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:50,320 Speaker 1: because if you're gonna get somebody like that, as you said, 1429 01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:52,320 Speaker 1: shedding salary is gonna have to happen, and it may 1430 01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:55,200 Speaker 1: have to happen at the same exact position. Because six 1431 01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:58,840 Speaker 1: of the bills top eleven average annual value contracts are 1432 01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:02,200 Speaker 1: on the defensive line. They may have to part with 1433 01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:05,439 Speaker 1: some of the guys they have to get the proper upgrades, right, 1434 01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:09,080 Speaker 1: no doubt. I mean I think you I think it 1435 01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:11,320 Speaker 1: should be a slam dunk decision, right, I mean the 1436 01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:13,599 Speaker 1: Addison's of the world, the Trent Murphy's of the world. 1437 01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:16,760 Speaker 1: I mean Star Lutula, I we forget about him. You know, 1438 01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:20,559 Speaker 1: obviously he opted out. But if you can get rid 1439 01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:22,920 Speaker 1: of some of those B minus C plus players to 1440 01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:25,479 Speaker 1: bring in a potential a player that's what you need 1441 01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:28,360 Speaker 1: against the Patrick Mahomes against the Chiefs. Just a legit 1442 01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:32,080 Speaker 1: stud up front, multiple guys that can get after the quarterback. 1443 01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:34,559 Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes was their best pass rusher, you know, but 1444 01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:36,439 Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes is kind of what he is at this 1445 01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:39,719 Speaker 1: point of his career, very very good, probably not elite. 1446 01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:43,960 Speaker 1: I think you know that premium position. If I'm the Bills, 1447 01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:46,160 Speaker 1: I'd like to hear you guys think too. I'd go 1448 01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:49,080 Speaker 1: free agency that route. And you know, we can talk 1449 01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:51,679 Speaker 1: about running back as well. They could use a dual threat, 1450 01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:55,040 Speaker 1: somebody that's a threat out of the backfield because they 1451 01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:56,960 Speaker 1: just didn't have any threat at all in the running game. 1452 01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:00,280 Speaker 1: You have some options in the draft. I think goot 1453 01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:03,400 Speaker 1: to go that route. The Bills have done that as well. 1454 01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:05,920 Speaker 1: They invested heavily in free agency on their defensive line. 1455 01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:08,200 Speaker 1: They also invested in Ed Oliver's a top pick, and 1456 01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:12,559 Speaker 1: also a Japaneza is a top pick. I think it 1457 01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:16,720 Speaker 1: really speaks to their belief that they have to be 1458 01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:20,519 Speaker 1: exactly what the Bucks were on Super Bowl Sunday to 1459 01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:23,120 Speaker 1: be a good That's their defensive philosophy. Get pressure with 1460 01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:26,479 Speaker 1: four and get it fast and happen. They can't get it, 1461 01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:28,439 Speaker 1: and they've tried, and they're a little bit in the 1462 01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:31,760 Speaker 1: You know, every team, and Brownie was telling me this, 1463 01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:33,720 Speaker 1: every team's got a blind spot the rate the rate 1464 01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:36,400 Speaker 1: of the New England Patriots can't draft a wide receiver, 1465 01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:39,880 Speaker 1: and the Bills can't find the elite pass rusher or 1466 01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:42,240 Speaker 1: the defensive line. They've they've tried draft picks, they've tried 1467 01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:45,240 Speaker 1: free agency, they've tried money, they've tried everything, and they 1468 01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:48,640 Speaker 1: can't find one. But it doesn't negate the fact that 1469 01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:50,919 Speaker 1: that's how they think they're going to win is exactly 1470 01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:53,680 Speaker 1: the way the Bucks won on Super Bowl Sunday. But 1471 01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:57,720 Speaker 1: they just haven't been able to find that combination. See, 1472 01:18:57,720 --> 01:18:59,960 Speaker 1: you got a draft, well, right, I mean they're gonna 1473 01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,439 Speaker 1: pay Josh Allen. I mean Stefan Diggs might want his 1474 01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:05,280 Speaker 1: contract we worked. At some point. You're gonna have to 1475 01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:08,760 Speaker 1: nail those third rounders, those fourth rounders, even a fifth 1476 01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:11,560 Speaker 1: rounder here and there that that can play right away 1477 01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:14,920 Speaker 1: to stay as that twelve and four, thirteen and three 1478 01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:21,000 Speaker 1: team at Milano totally totally finding another Milano would would 1479 01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:22,840 Speaker 1: be huge. I think a big part of it too, 1480 01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:25,479 Speaker 1: is like just realizing what kind of team you are, 1481 01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:29,080 Speaker 1: so in that AFC Championship gaming, the Bills obviously aren't 1482 01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:32,280 Speaker 1: built like Tampa Bay with a legit pass rush, with 1483 01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:34,839 Speaker 1: a running game, with a team that can maybe control 1484 01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:37,040 Speaker 1: the clock and kick that field goal. I mean, the 1485 01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:40,280 Speaker 1: Bills were a risk taking, go for it kind of 1486 01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:43,400 Speaker 1: operation with McDermot and Brian Dable, But for one day, 1487 01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:46,679 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, they're not going for it on fourth down. 1488 01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:49,519 Speaker 1: So I get the morale argument. To me, the morale 1489 01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:51,840 Speaker 1: argument is, man, if you just let Josh Allen do 1490 01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:53,439 Speaker 1: his thing right at the end of the first half, 1491 01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:57,120 Speaker 1: you score a touchdown there at Arrowhead going in a halftime, man, 1492 01:19:57,200 --> 01:19:59,880 Speaker 1: that that morale absolutely could have changed the momentum of 1493 01:19:59,880 --> 01:20:03,200 Speaker 1: that game. So what team are you gonna be in 1494 01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:05,799 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one? I think that plays into it as well. 1495 01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:09,360 Speaker 1: Talking to Tyler Dunn, founder and NFL features writer for 1496 01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:13,360 Speaker 1: golong tv dot com, and Tyler, we thought that there 1497 01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:18,320 Speaker 1: was a lot of quarterback movement last offseason that's gonna 1498 01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:21,960 Speaker 1: get beat by a mile this year from all indications 1499 01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:26,920 Speaker 1: from where you sit, I mean, do we expect the 1500 01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:30,320 Speaker 1: Domino type effect after maybe? I mean we thought like Okay, 1501 01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:32,760 Speaker 1: Stafford's the first domino. Where does it go from here? 1502 01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:35,800 Speaker 1: But there's been a lag effect of sorts. Now I'm 1503 01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:39,120 Speaker 1: wondering if after the second domino falls, whether it's Carson Wentz, 1504 01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:42,719 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, Sam Darnold. I think after that second domino falls, 1505 01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:45,320 Speaker 1: I think panic sets in for everybody else that needs 1506 01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:47,599 Speaker 1: a quarterback, and things happen quickly. I don't know if 1507 01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:49,720 Speaker 1: you see it differently. I'm curious what you feel the 1508 01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:54,120 Speaker 1: landscape's gonna look like here in the coming weeks. That's 1509 01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:56,680 Speaker 1: the great that's the million dollar question, Chris. It's like, 1510 01:20:57,040 --> 01:20:59,320 Speaker 1: who is that first domino? I mean it was kind 1511 01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:01,760 Speaker 1: of a weird first domino, if you even want to 1512 01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:04,360 Speaker 1: call it that. With with Matthew Stafford, I mean, twelve years, 1513 01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:06,760 Speaker 1: no playoff wins, we kind of know what he is. 1514 01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:09,880 Speaker 1: Sean McVay thinks he can just revitalize his career to 1515 01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:13,200 Speaker 1: turn him into something we haven't seen the last twelve 1516 01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:15,920 Speaker 1: years out there in LA Maybe he's right. I think 1517 01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:18,640 Speaker 1: that was a pretty desperate move on his part to 1518 01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:22,320 Speaker 1: just go all in and just mortgage all those picks 1519 01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:24,919 Speaker 1: for a guy that, you know what, he's had some injuries, 1520 01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:27,439 Speaker 1: it's probably gonna turn the ball over at a terrible spot. 1521 01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:31,400 Speaker 1: We're so quick to say McVeigh as a genius. This 1522 01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:34,280 Speaker 1: did not strike me as a very brilliant move. And 1523 01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:37,520 Speaker 1: to answer your question, you know, I know the Texans 1524 01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:40,680 Speaker 1: are publicly saying that they're not going to move to 1525 01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:44,280 Speaker 1: Shaun Watson, but it's pretty clear that Deshaun Watson doesn't 1526 01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:47,280 Speaker 1: want to be there and doesn't like the foundation that 1527 01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:49,599 Speaker 1: they have there whatsoever. And can you blame him? I mean, 1528 01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:51,920 Speaker 1: what a messod is in Houston. I think at some 1529 01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:55,840 Speaker 1: point David Culley and Nicko Sarrio they look at it 1530 01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:58,519 Speaker 1: and say, we can get a boatload of picks, just 1531 01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:01,879 Speaker 1: completely reset this because you're not even with DeShawn Watson. 1532 01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:04,439 Speaker 1: That roster is such a mess that they're not gonna 1533 01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:06,240 Speaker 1: win right now. I would think that would be the 1534 01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:09,559 Speaker 1: first domino and it's gonna be a trade unlike anything 1535 01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:11,720 Speaker 1: that we maybe have ever seen in our lifetime. The 1536 01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:14,960 Speaker 1: problem is this, there's about twelve teams in the league 1537 01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:18,240 Speaker 1: or thirteen, maybe fourteen teams in the league that don't 1538 01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:20,480 Speaker 1: have any money to spend to take on a contract 1539 01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:23,840 Speaker 1: like Deshaun Watson or a Carson Wentz for that matter. 1540 01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:27,519 Speaker 1: And certainly the teams that are that do have that 1541 01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:30,280 Speaker 1: kind of cap space, the Jets being one of them, 1542 01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:34,360 Speaker 1: certainly they could. The Indianapolis Colts Jacksonville. Jacksonville won't make 1543 01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:36,360 Speaker 1: a move. They've got their guy coming into the draft. 1544 01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:41,360 Speaker 1: So it's a it's a skewed market because of a 1545 01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:44,880 Speaker 1: cap that has shrunk. And I still don't think that 1546 01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:47,920 Speaker 1: teams know exactly what they have to give in a trade, 1547 01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:52,720 Speaker 1: let alone what they're gonna get in return. And and 1548 01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:57,760 Speaker 1: then there's this the Eagles with Carson Wentz. They got 1549 01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:00,000 Speaker 1: to pay the guy ten million bucks on March seventeen. 1550 01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:03,639 Speaker 1: They got to trade him before that, So who's gonna 1551 01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:06,120 Speaker 1: you know, the question becomes now there now the fire, 1552 01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:08,519 Speaker 1: their feet are on over the fire, and you know 1553 01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:11,800 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to make a move and take the 1554 01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:14,400 Speaker 1: best offer out there. There's a lot in this. It's 1555 01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:18,800 Speaker 1: not really a normal year because of the economics. It's 1556 01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:20,360 Speaker 1: a good point. I mean, we could talk about their 1557 01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:23,360 Speaker 1: their talents and their games, and how much does that 1558 01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:25,759 Speaker 1: really matter here? I mean, I tend to thank Carson 1559 01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:28,360 Speaker 1: Wentz is a guy that you do believe in. I mean, 1560 01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:31,519 Speaker 1: he was so good in twenty seventeen. He was an 1561 01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:33,960 Speaker 1: MVP front runner. He played a lot like Josh Allen 1562 01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:36,760 Speaker 1: did last year, where it just seemed like he get 1563 01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:40,160 Speaker 1: outside of the pocket, something good was gonna happen, and 1564 01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:42,600 Speaker 1: he had a magic about him and then bang he 1565 01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:44,519 Speaker 1: tears his z ac out. It seems like he's had 1566 01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:47,120 Speaker 1: like the yips the last two and a half three years. 1567 01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:49,400 Speaker 1: So can you get that back? If he can get 1568 01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:51,280 Speaker 1: that back, I mean, it would be with a Frank 1569 01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:53,760 Speaker 1: Reich in Indianapolis, right, I mean, they're they're familiar with 1570 01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:56,160 Speaker 1: each other. I think they like each other. I think 1571 01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:58,559 Speaker 1: they'll figure out a game plan and a playbook that 1572 01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:00,800 Speaker 1: works for both. There's a ton of tent on that team, 1573 01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:04,200 Speaker 1: something to Carson Wentz does not have whatsoever with that 1574 01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:07,160 Speaker 1: Philadelphia roster. How are you, Roseman? What are you doing? 1575 01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:09,080 Speaker 1: I mean, oh my god, we could go through his 1576 01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:12,040 Speaker 1: draft picks and his mistakes, but it makes so much sense. 1577 01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:14,719 Speaker 1: But you're right, Steve, It's like, contract wise, you're gonna 1578 01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:17,519 Speaker 1: have to move some mountains to make that work. You know. 1579 01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:20,160 Speaker 1: I tend to think, and agents will tell you this too. 1580 01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:23,160 Speaker 1: I tend to think the salary cap maybe isn't as 1581 01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:26,080 Speaker 1: real as we think it is. I mean, you can 1582 01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:28,320 Speaker 1: move money around, you can kick money down the road, 1583 01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:30,360 Speaker 1: you can move things to signing bonus. If you believe 1584 01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:32,400 Speaker 1: in a guy, if they believe in Carson Wentz, if 1585 01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:35,320 Speaker 1: somebody believes in Deshaun Watson, obviously you just find a 1586 01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:37,120 Speaker 1: way to get it done. Yeah. I just still can't 1587 01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:39,400 Speaker 1: believe in a restrictive cap here. They're gonna eat thirty 1588 01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:41,559 Speaker 1: four million on that guy's contract, but it's gonna happen. 1589 01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:45,200 Speaker 1: It's amazing. It's amazing to the question is what they're 1590 01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:47,320 Speaker 1: gonna get for him? Well, right, and and that's what 1591 01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:49,200 Speaker 1: they're having a hard time with because they've been hanging 1592 01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:51,799 Speaker 1: up the phone on people that aren't given them nearly 1593 01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:53,640 Speaker 1: what they think they should get for him. But it's like, 1594 01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:55,720 Speaker 1: you're not dealing from a position to strength. Everybody knows 1595 01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:57,120 Speaker 1: you want to get rid of the guy because you're 1596 01:24:57,160 --> 01:24:59,080 Speaker 1: willing to eat thirty four million dollars for a guy, 1597 01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:01,280 Speaker 1: it's not even gonna be there. That's crazy. Last one 1598 01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:04,519 Speaker 1: I've got for you, Tyler, though, is the hiring process 1599 01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:07,840 Speaker 1: here with coaches. We've heard these rumblings like, oh, they 1600 01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:10,200 Speaker 1: should all wait until after the Super Bowl and then 1601 01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:12,360 Speaker 1: just have a horse race for the best guys that 1602 01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:15,920 Speaker 1: they want to hire. I just don't see owners wrapping 1603 01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:17,840 Speaker 1: their arms around that at all. I don't know if 1604 01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:20,920 Speaker 1: you've heard differently, but do you think that gains any 1605 01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:24,599 Speaker 1: traction whatsoever not to allow people to hire coaches until 1606 01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:29,160 Speaker 1: post Super Bowl? You're right. I think that the owners 1607 01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:30,960 Speaker 1: and the teams, they want to get things locked in, 1608 01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:32,760 Speaker 1: They want to get a system in place, and they 1609 01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:35,320 Speaker 1: want to get cooking with the draft, with free agency, 1610 01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:38,519 Speaker 1: with everything. But if there was ever a year, if 1611 01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:41,320 Speaker 1: there was ever a tipping point for something to change, 1612 01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:43,840 Speaker 1: it would be this year, right. I mean those assistants 1613 01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:46,880 Speaker 1: in Tampa Bay Byron Left, which Todd Bulls, and even 1614 01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:49,320 Speaker 1: Eric Goodman, I mean somebody interviewed here in Buffalo. You 1615 01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:52,120 Speaker 1: have a lot of options there, and I think that 1616 01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:54,880 Speaker 1: you know, Eric b Enemy being another one in Kansas City. 1617 01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:58,000 Speaker 1: I think it's better for all involved and just hit 1618 01:25:58,000 --> 01:25:59,920 Speaker 1: pause for a couple of weeks. I go on vacation, 1619 01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:02,120 Speaker 1: go to the keys or something, you know, to drink 1620 01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:04,519 Speaker 1: some beers and enjoy life after your season ends, and 1621 01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:08,000 Speaker 1: then figure this out right now. February sixth, seventh eight. Yeah, 1622 01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:11,120 Speaker 1: it's crazy because I think all four teams in the 1623 01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:13,840 Speaker 1: final four all in that played on championship week. I 1624 01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:15,920 Speaker 1: don't think anybody's losing any of the members of their 1625 01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:18,040 Speaker 1: coaching staff. There might be a lower level assistant that 1626 01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:20,280 Speaker 1: I'm missing, but I don't think any of the final 1627 01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:23,920 Speaker 1: four teams lost a single coach from their stats. It's crazy, 1628 01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:26,479 Speaker 1: but some of this bunch of them interviewed. Yeah, but 1629 01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:30,080 Speaker 1: some of this hiring process probably has something to do 1630 01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:32,000 Speaker 1: with that. Before we let you go, Tyler, why don't 1631 01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:33,800 Speaker 1: you hit us up, let us know what's coming up 1632 01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:38,559 Speaker 1: on golong td dot com and on your podcast. No 1633 01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:40,280 Speaker 1: doubt that. Thanks so much. They can just go to 1634 01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:43,960 Speaker 1: golongtd dot com plugging your email, um subscribe to the 1635 01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:47,400 Speaker 1: free email or you can subscribe get all the features, profiles, 1636 01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:50,200 Speaker 1: everything you want. Just trying to, you know, cut against 1637 01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:53,240 Speaker 1: the grain from the jifts and the tweets and house 1638 01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:56,800 Speaker 1: sports media print media mostly is today. It's been fun. 1639 01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:59,479 Speaker 1: I gotta say, guys, like the foundation for this has 1640 01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:02,320 Speaker 1: been buff in Western New York and the readers have 1641 01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:05,519 Speaker 1: just been amazing. We're gonna hit it hard. Free agency 1642 01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:08,280 Speaker 1: talk to uh somebody who's arguably the top free agent 1643 01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:10,839 Speaker 1: on the market. We'll have that story in Friday. Perfect, 1644 01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:12,880 Speaker 1: all right, we look forward to its time. Thanks for 1645 01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:16,200 Speaker 1: the time. Thank you, guys, appreciate it. All right. That's 1646 01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:19,719 Speaker 1: Tyler Dunn, features writer from golongtd dot com. Very good 1647 01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:23,479 Speaker 1: features writer. I mean the guy. You know, when you 1648 01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:26,439 Speaker 1: read stories online and then you read feature stories, you 1649 01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:30,479 Speaker 1: can tell like who's a good storyteller? You know, he's 1650 01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:32,639 Speaker 1: just got a knack for it, like just the way 1651 01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:34,719 Speaker 1: he tells the story. And then one of his recent ones, 1652 01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:37,599 Speaker 1: why Devin White is the Buccaneers antidote for Patrick Mahomes. 1653 01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:39,680 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're reading it now, it's like, holy cow, 1654 01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:42,320 Speaker 1: the guy I predicted the future. But the guy goes 1655 01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:44,599 Speaker 1: out of his way to dig to get a little 1656 01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:47,799 Speaker 1: deeper on guys, whether it's talking to former LSU teammates, 1657 01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:49,799 Speaker 1: which he did in the in the Devin White story, 1658 01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:52,680 Speaker 1: be sure to check it out. It's good storytelling. It's 1659 01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:55,920 Speaker 1: worth subscribing to. So make sure you do that, and 1660 01:27:56,360 --> 01:27:58,200 Speaker 1: you know, support a writer out there that's trying to 1661 01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:01,000 Speaker 1: do it a much different way out there on his own. 1662 01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:04,000 Speaker 1: So good luck to Tyler with golong td dot com 1663 01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:05,519 Speaker 1: if you get a chance to check it out. We 1664 01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:07,240 Speaker 1: have to take a break, but when we come back, 1665 01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:10,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna get to the tweet sheet to see what 1666 01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:12,839 Speaker 1: you guys think the Bills need to add in terms 1667 01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:15,840 Speaker 1: of running back talent. There are choices there for you 1668 01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:19,040 Speaker 1: at Twitter at One bills Live, so be sure to 1669 01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:21,000 Speaker 1: weigh in with the voting. We'll get an update on 1670 01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:24,240 Speaker 1: where the voting stands and your comments when we return 1671 01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:26,200 Speaker 1: here on One Bill's Live, presented by Kalid to Health, 1672 01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:40,000 Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live. 1673 01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:43,760 Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you here on a what 1674 01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:47,479 Speaker 1: is it Tuesday? Yes, they're running together. Man, when you 1675 01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:51,240 Speaker 1: wake up every morning and it's snowing, when it's waking, 1676 01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:54,080 Speaker 1: when you wake up every morning and there's still snow 1677 01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:56,800 Speaker 1: on the ground, the sky is gray, there's no sun. 1678 01:28:57,439 --> 01:29:00,160 Speaker 1: You're shoveling off another two inches off your sidewalk, talk 1679 01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:03,640 Speaker 1: in your driveway. I'm just like, can we play the 1680 01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:07,439 Speaker 1: groundhog Day sounder? Now? That's right? What chuck chuck er? 1681 01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:11,440 Speaker 1: It's a groundhog day? Because it is, It's the groundhog 1682 01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:14,360 Speaker 1: days of winter. Really is as our MSG viewers, and 1683 01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:20,360 Speaker 1: plus it's you know, we're still in the deep darkness 1684 01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:23,559 Speaker 1: of the pandemic. Well that's just not helping, it is 1685 01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:27,679 Speaker 1: it's just so bad. It's been so bad for so long. 1686 01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:32,280 Speaker 1: Now you're just you're just kind of grinding. And is 1687 01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:35,320 Speaker 1: this a grind? You know, there was all the new stuff, like, well, 1688 01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:37,200 Speaker 1: you know, I'm getting I'm gotting my house picked up, 1689 01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:39,320 Speaker 1: got cleaned up, got some stuff done around the house, 1690 01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:42,640 Speaker 1: you know, started starting shopping online. You know, I got 1691 01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:44,280 Speaker 1: all this stuff going on. Now I'm getting you know, 1692 01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:47,880 Speaker 1: socially distancing. He has some friends over socially distanced to 1693 01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:51,719 Speaker 1: do all that stuff. Now it's like there's nothing new. 1694 01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:55,160 Speaker 1: I was like, I was trying to celebrate in my 1695 01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:59,760 Speaker 1: brain that we had moved past January, and then I'm like, 1696 01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:02,320 Speaker 1: we're only a weekend to February. Here my son's trying 1697 01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:04,000 Speaker 1: to go silver linings on. He's like, hey, Dad, it's 1698 01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:05,880 Speaker 1: the shortest month of the year. You only got twenty 1699 01:30:05,880 --> 01:30:08,240 Speaker 1: eight days in this movie. I'll say that. Let's go. 1700 01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:10,720 Speaker 1: So my buddy and I My buddy and I who 1701 01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:12,479 Speaker 1: I don't know, you've heard me talking about him. He 1702 01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:15,800 Speaker 1: played golf. Um, he's my golf buddy. We have been 1703 01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:20,559 Speaker 1: able to play golf every month of the calendar year. 1704 01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:25,120 Speaker 1: We did it in no, no, no, what no at 1705 01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:28,080 Speaker 1: our course here in Buffalo the way. So we got 1706 01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:32,600 Speaker 1: out and played December, and we played in December and 1707 01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:35,599 Speaker 1: January one. We just like seven holes we walked because 1708 01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:37,800 Speaker 1: it was there's no snow and they got you know, 1709 01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:39,880 Speaker 1: temporary green all that stuff. We just did it to 1710 01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:42,920 Speaker 1: do it. Plus afterwards, you bring a chair and we 1711 01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:45,320 Speaker 1: sit down and we have a pop and smoke a 1712 01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:51,559 Speaker 1: cigar in the cold. We're panicking about February about being 1713 01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:54,679 Speaker 1: able to get it in. Now we're gonna it's not 1714 01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:57,640 Speaker 1: like a rosy great round of golf, and we're just 1715 01:30:57,720 --> 01:31:01,120 Speaker 1: doing it to say we did it. Yeah, and we're 1716 01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:02,960 Speaker 1: panicked that we may not be able to get it in. 1717 01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:06,080 Speaker 1: You need like three or four days of forty five degrees, right, 1718 01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:08,160 Speaker 1: it's got to melt off. We get we got some 1719 01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:11,639 Speaker 1: open ground, yeah, you know, so that's our we're gonna 1720 01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:13,400 Speaker 1: get it in. I don't know if you're getting that right. 1721 01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:14,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if you're getting it. I don't know 1722 01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:17,000 Speaker 1: if we're gonna make it. This might be they have 1723 01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:19,559 Speaker 1: to get out there with a hair dryer, and uh, oh, 1724 01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:22,080 Speaker 1: you know what you do. Go talk to the equipment guys. 1725 01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:24,599 Speaker 1: Get one of those heat blowers on the sidelines. Throw 1726 01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:26,519 Speaker 1: that out there on the fairway. I don't melt it 1727 01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:34,479 Speaker 1: up real quick. You're there are ways now, that is 1728 01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:39,040 Speaker 1: not one of them, because you can. First of all, 1729 01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:43,720 Speaker 1: you couldn't nobody couldn't artificially change the course so you 1730 01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:46,920 Speaker 1: can play. That's great, But you couldn't clear off right now. 1731 01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:48,880 Speaker 1: You couldn't clear off enough snow that I could stand 1732 01:31:48,880 --> 01:31:51,320 Speaker 1: back in the te box and hit it. Yeah, I 1733 01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:53,400 Speaker 1: just you know it's hard enough to hit the fairway 1734 01:31:53,439 --> 01:31:55,680 Speaker 1: the way it is. I got you, you're gonna go. 1735 01:31:56,000 --> 01:32:00,040 Speaker 1: I need a team of you know. You know I 1736 01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:02,120 Speaker 1: have to be the pharaoh with all the slaves. I'd 1737 01:32:02,120 --> 01:32:03,559 Speaker 1: have to have your house right, I mean, I'd like 1738 01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:06,000 Speaker 1: I had to have like multitudes of people out there 1739 01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:11,519 Speaker 1: and as indentured servants clear in the shove everything. I 1740 01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:16,879 Speaker 1: wonder how far away we are from the first eighteen 1741 01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:22,040 Speaker 1: hole indoor course. I wonder how far away we are 1742 01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:24,960 Speaker 1: from that, you know what I mean? Eighteen whole indoor course. 1743 01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:28,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a gargantuan effort. Oh you mean does 1744 01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:31,320 Speaker 1: that exist anywhere on the planet. I don't think it does. No, 1745 01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:34,080 Speaker 1: you can't get the height or the you know, no, 1746 01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:37,960 Speaker 1: you know, you know what you could do though, think 1747 01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:42,760 Speaker 1: about how far away? Think about a brownie. Well here's 1748 01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:44,760 Speaker 1: the thing, though, where would you do it? Well, you're 1749 01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:48,080 Speaker 1: doing it in a northern right city. Here's here's where 1750 01:32:48,080 --> 01:32:50,920 Speaker 1: you'd have to be able to do it. You could 1751 01:32:52,720 --> 01:32:55,280 Speaker 1: if there was a like a somebody a strip mining 1752 01:32:55,320 --> 01:32:58,200 Speaker 1: place or something, or you just that's already belonged around 1753 01:32:58,479 --> 01:33:01,800 Speaker 1: pop a roof over it, then you might be able 1754 01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:03,960 Speaker 1: to get it done. Yeah, because then your roof doesn't 1755 01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:07,680 Speaker 1: have to be as high built below ground, don't have 1756 01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:10,680 Speaker 1: to build walls, right, and then you just and you 1757 01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:12,320 Speaker 1: can just and if you roof on it, you can 1758 01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:14,519 Speaker 1: you can just set a small thing around it and 1759 01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:15,920 Speaker 1: do it like you'll last the a domes, you know, 1760 01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:17,800 Speaker 1: pop it up with a lot of Yeah, like you 1761 01:33:17,920 --> 01:33:20,519 Speaker 1: like an old rock quarry or something exactly. Yeah, like 1762 01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:23,200 Speaker 1: out on the ninety there, Yeah, the gravel pit. It 1763 01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:25,840 Speaker 1: wouldn't be an eighteen whole course, even if you can 1764 01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:28,880 Speaker 1: get nine, someone's gonna do that. Even if you get 1765 01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:31,960 Speaker 1: that's gonna here's the thing, here's the math works. If 1766 01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:37,120 Speaker 1: you get six with three different tea boxes for each 1767 01:33:37,160 --> 01:33:41,360 Speaker 1: of the six holes. Yeah, yeah, someone's gonna do it 1768 01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:44,200 Speaker 1: sooner or later. You'd have to have deep pockets, well, 1769 01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:48,439 Speaker 1: very deep pockets. Yes, someone will do it. It's gonna 1770 01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:52,200 Speaker 1: I mean, someone will do it. Yeah, it's gonna happen. 1771 01:33:52,439 --> 01:33:54,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, And then you don't have anything 1772 01:33:54,120 --> 01:34:02,120 Speaker 1: to worry about. Then one day we had the weather. 1773 01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:04,200 Speaker 1: We've already had the conversation about how to get out 1774 01:34:04,240 --> 01:34:07,679 Speaker 1: there and fight through it, because really all you need, 1775 01:34:08,280 --> 01:34:10,000 Speaker 1: it's like and you just need a half a week 1776 01:34:10,040 --> 01:34:12,240 Speaker 1: of weather to get the snow office as you can't 1777 01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:14,800 Speaker 1: stick a tea in a snow bank. You can, but 1778 01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:17,000 Speaker 1: here's the problem. You show shoes on and if there's 1779 01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:19,439 Speaker 1: any snow out there at the ball's gone, you can't 1780 01:34:19,479 --> 01:34:21,559 Speaker 1: find it. You know. We use yellow or pink golf 1781 01:34:21,560 --> 01:34:25,280 Speaker 1: ball so you can see him. But still, so that's 1782 01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:27,880 Speaker 1: our thing. We got this money golf balls. This is 1783 01:34:27,920 --> 01:34:31,240 Speaker 1: when it really gets tough to get that that you know, 1784 01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:33,560 Speaker 1: walk that quick nine hole. We will we will be 1785 01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:36,680 Speaker 1: seeking updates for you from you for each every each 1786 01:34:36,720 --> 01:34:38,880 Speaker 1: and every passing day. I said, I told him though 1787 01:34:39,400 --> 01:34:43,439 Speaker 1: we may just like not do it and just say 1788 01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:47,280 Speaker 1: we did. I don't know if that's gonna fly. It 1789 01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:49,760 Speaker 1: won't fly, all right, break down for us when we 1790 01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:51,720 Speaker 1: come back. We will. We got off on a tangent there. 1791 01:34:51,720 --> 01:34:53,519 Speaker 1: We will get to the tweet sheet when we return. 1792 01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:55,960 Speaker 1: Get your comments on what type of running back did 1793 01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:59,000 Speaker 1: the Bills need in their offense? And why open line 1794 01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:02,120 Speaker 1: for you? Also at eight o fifty join us there, 1795 01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:04,080 Speaker 1: Steve and I back in a moment here on One 1796 01:35:04,120 --> 01:35:06,280 Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by Kalid to Health. This is Buffalo 1797 01:35:06,360 --> 01:35:20,639 Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Hello, Bills Radio Network Sports your sports update 1798 01:35:20,680 --> 01:35:24,000 Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. Legendary NFL coach Marty Schottenheimer passed 1799 01:35:24,040 --> 01:35:26,840 Speaker 1: away with his family at his side, following a long 1800 01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:30,160 Speaker 1: battle with Alzheimer's. He was head coach of four NFL 1801 01:35:30,280 --> 01:35:33,519 Speaker 1: teams posted two hundred career wins, one of only eight 1802 01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:36,559 Speaker 1: coaches in league history to do that. Shotneimer also played 1803 01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:39,559 Speaker 1: linebacker for the Bills from nineteen sixty five to sixty eight, 1804 01:35:39,880 --> 01:35:43,120 Speaker 1: helped Buffalo in the AFL title in his rookie year. 1805 01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:46,719 Speaker 1: Super Bowl numbers took a drastic hit in terms of viewership. 1806 01:35:47,120 --> 01:35:49,680 Speaker 1: The total audience including out a home viewership and all 1807 01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:53,000 Speaker 1: streaming platforms, averaged ninety six point four million last year, 1808 01:35:53,280 --> 01:35:55,280 Speaker 1: the number eight two hundred and thirteen million. It's the 1809 01:35:55,360 --> 01:35:58,160 Speaker 1: lowest watched Super Bowl since two thousand and seven, when 1810 01:35:58,200 --> 01:36:02,280 Speaker 1: Indianapolis played Chicago. After playing through a turf toe injury 1811 01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:04,760 Speaker 1: through much of the postseason, Patrick Mahomes will now be 1812 01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:07,719 Speaker 1: able to get back to one hundred percent. Mahomes undergoing 1813 01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:13,040 Speaker 1: surgery to repair a torn planter plate in his foot. 1814 01:36:13,120 --> 01:36:16,320 Speaker 1: It is scheduled for Wednesday. Mahomes will likely be off 1815 01:36:16,360 --> 01:36:19,320 Speaker 1: the field for the twenty twenty one offseason program if 1816 01:36:19,400 --> 01:36:21,640 Speaker 1: there is one, but should be ready to go for 1817 01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:25,599 Speaker 1: the start of the regular season in September. Cornerback Richard 1818 01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:27,639 Speaker 1: Sherman said to hit the free agent market next month 1819 01:36:27,680 --> 01:36:30,160 Speaker 1: to sign what will likely be his last NFL contract. 1820 01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:32,800 Speaker 1: Thirty three year old veteran corner told ESPN he plans 1821 01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:36,000 Speaker 1: to play two more seasons before retiring. Sherman played in 1822 01:36:36,080 --> 01:36:38,400 Speaker 1: just five games in twenty twenty due to injury, but 1823 01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:40,559 Speaker 1: is only a year removed from a Pro Bowl season 1824 01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:44,639 Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen. NHL has postponed two more Buffalo Sabers games, 1825 01:36:44,720 --> 01:36:48,280 Speaker 1: making it six in all due to COVID nineteen protocols. 1826 01:36:48,600 --> 01:36:52,360 Speaker 1: With nine Sabers players on the NHL's COVID protocol list, 1827 01:36:52,640 --> 01:36:56,880 Speaker 1: the games against Washington on Thursday and Saturday have been postponed. 1828 01:36:56,880 --> 01:36:59,679 Speaker 1: An update to the schedule is expected in the coming days. Meanwhile, 1829 01:36:59,720 --> 01:37:02,679 Speaker 1: the team is practicing this afternoon for the first time 1830 01:37:03,200 --> 01:37:07,599 Speaker 1: since the protocols started, taking players off of their availability list, 1831 01:37:07,640 --> 01:37:10,160 Speaker 1: and Jesse Beagoula, daughter of Bills and Sabers owner Terry 1832 01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:13,240 Speaker 1: and Kim Pegoula, upset twelve seated and two time former 1833 01:37:13,479 --> 01:37:17,040 Speaker 1: Australian Open champ Victoria Azarenka to advance to the second 1834 01:37:17,120 --> 01:37:18,960 Speaker 1: round of the Aussee Opened for the first time ever. 1835 01:37:19,439 --> 01:37:21,720 Speaker 1: Beagoula had her best ever result in a major at 1836 01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:24,400 Speaker 1: last year's US Open, where she reached the third round. 1837 01:37:24,479 --> 01:37:28,800 Speaker 1: She'll now face Samantha Stozer midnight Thursday morning, Eastern time, 1838 01:37:28,840 --> 01:37:31,639 Speaker 1: So be on the lookout for that. I believe those games. 1839 01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:35,519 Speaker 1: Those matches, excuse me not games. Matches are on ESPN two, 1840 01:37:35,720 --> 01:37:37,720 Speaker 1: So be on the lookout for her. If you can't 1841 01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:40,639 Speaker 1: sleep and you're up at midnight, check out Jesse Pagoula. 1842 01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:43,599 Speaker 1: See if you can advance to the third round. That'd 1843 01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:46,280 Speaker 1: be cool if she can pull that off. Yeah, I 1844 01:37:46,360 --> 01:37:49,160 Speaker 1: know my parents usually they're big tennis fans and they 1845 01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:52,120 Speaker 1: usually catch her on the way through. There's an event 1846 01:37:52,200 --> 01:37:54,599 Speaker 1: that takes place every year in Charleston, South Carolina. They 1847 01:37:54,600 --> 01:37:58,120 Speaker 1: always catch that one down there, so they were asking about, Hey, 1848 01:37:58,160 --> 01:38:00,920 Speaker 1: how's that, how's Jesse Pegoula doing. I was like going 1849 01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:03,160 Speaker 1: to check out ESPNDO. Don't go to bed find out 1850 01:38:03,200 --> 01:38:04,640 Speaker 1: what's going on. I don't have an update here. And 1851 01:38:04,720 --> 01:38:08,640 Speaker 1: just because it's because their parents are our bosses, we're 1852 01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:11,760 Speaker 1: not up to We try to keep track, but you know, 1853 01:38:12,360 --> 01:38:14,920 Speaker 1: staying up till midnight is not always easy as these 1854 01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:18,560 Speaker 1: days there you go, so but we will. We'll be 1855 01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:20,360 Speaker 1: keeping our aider the ground on that see how far 1856 01:38:20,479 --> 01:38:22,200 Speaker 1: she can get. So good luck to Jesse. See if 1857 01:38:22,240 --> 01:38:23,800 Speaker 1: she can get to the third round. That would be 1858 01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:27,240 Speaker 1: be a nice accomplishment. After advancing to the third round 1859 01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:29,559 Speaker 1: in the US Open. You know, you people think like, oh, yeah, 1860 01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:31,479 Speaker 1: you know, these tennis players they just cruise on through 1861 01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:33,320 Speaker 1: and win all these US Like there's only two or 1862 01:38:33,400 --> 01:38:35,280 Speaker 1: three people that do that in the world, you know, 1863 01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:38,519 Speaker 1: with any regularity. It's really hard in that sport. Yeah, 1864 01:38:38,600 --> 01:38:41,040 Speaker 1: she beat the number twelve ran. That was an upset. 1865 01:38:41,240 --> 01:38:44,240 Speaker 1: It's a big upset. It's a good one. Yeah, But 1866 01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:46,479 Speaker 1: we want to get to your comments here in the 1867 01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:48,640 Speaker 1: third hour of the program. Have yet to get to 1868 01:38:48,680 --> 01:38:50,920 Speaker 1: the tweet sheet, and we're gonna do that now. Tweet 1869 01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:53,240 Speaker 1: sheet brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official 1870 01:38:53,280 --> 01:38:56,720 Speaker 1: equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills, is we're doing 1871 01:38:56,760 --> 01:38:59,439 Speaker 1: our roster position by a position breakdown here and asking 1872 01:38:59,479 --> 01:39:01,040 Speaker 1: you what type of running back do you think the 1873 01:39:01,120 --> 01:39:04,680 Speaker 1: Bills need in their offense. Jim Brandon Bean said he's 1874 01:39:04,680 --> 01:39:07,000 Speaker 1: got no problem with Zach Moss and Devin Singletary, but 1875 01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:09,560 Speaker 1: we all openly wonder do they need to add a 1876 01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:14,200 Speaker 1: different kind of element to the running back contingent, And 1877 01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:18,200 Speaker 1: knowing t j Yelden and Taiwan Jones are both free agents, 1878 01:39:18,280 --> 01:39:21,599 Speaker 1: there could be some turnover at the position. So Nick 1879 01:39:21,680 --> 01:39:24,360 Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet says a speedback would be a 1880 01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:26,800 Speaker 1: great compliment to our current backfield. We don't need him 1881 01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:28,800 Speaker 1: to be our number one back, so no need to 1882 01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:30,920 Speaker 1: sign an expensive free agent and use an early round 1883 01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:33,920 Speaker 1: draft choice. Just a competent running back with speed could 1884 01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:42,760 Speaker 1: really diversify our running game. Unfortunately, the draft prospects coming out, 1885 01:39:42,960 --> 01:39:44,479 Speaker 1: there's a lot of burners. There's not a lot of 1886 01:39:44,600 --> 01:39:47,200 Speaker 1: real speed guys out there. There's not a lot of 1887 01:39:47,360 --> 01:39:50,280 Speaker 1: really really fast guys out there. So although I will 1888 01:39:50,360 --> 01:39:53,599 Speaker 1: tell you, Steve, I already have a favorite if you are. 1889 01:39:54,880 --> 01:39:58,160 Speaker 1: If you're a running back, Steve, Okay, this is a 1890 01:39:58,280 --> 01:40:00,200 Speaker 1: running back. Have you've seen play at all? Oh? No, 1891 01:40:00,320 --> 01:40:02,720 Speaker 1: I have not seen a single play. Exactly, I have 1892 01:40:02,840 --> 01:40:07,120 Speaker 1: not seen a single play. But this guy, this guy, 1893 01:40:09,680 --> 01:40:12,479 Speaker 1: go ahead, it is what it is. Tell me very well. 1894 01:40:12,520 --> 01:40:16,840 Speaker 1: I'm I'm sold on his name. Um, his his name 1895 01:40:17,320 --> 01:40:20,160 Speaker 1: tells me he's gonna be a productive NFL player. Are 1896 01:40:20,200 --> 01:40:24,959 Speaker 1: you ready? What is it? Kenneth gain Well at a Memphis. 1897 01:40:25,400 --> 01:40:27,920 Speaker 1: Your last name is gain Well? How are you not 1898 01:40:28,240 --> 01:40:30,760 Speaker 1: destined for stardom in the NFL as a running back? 1899 01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:33,679 Speaker 1: That's a that's a maddened name. That's a video. Kenneth 1900 01:40:34,320 --> 01:40:38,800 Speaker 1: gain Well at a Memphis your sophomore. Sure it's Kenneth 1901 01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:44,800 Speaker 1: and not Gunna. That's his middle name, Kenneth gain Well 1902 01:40:44,960 --> 01:40:47,599 Speaker 1: for a running back. Come on, that's just his first 1903 01:40:47,640 --> 01:40:51,559 Speaker 1: his his folction named him Gunner. Yeah, Gunner game well gain, Well, 1904 01:40:52,040 --> 01:40:55,080 Speaker 1: that is outstanding. That's what a name for a running back. Well, 1905 01:40:55,120 --> 01:40:59,280 Speaker 1: you know what, that's the only guy I know? Well, no, 1906 01:40:59,439 --> 01:41:01,120 Speaker 1: you know, Travis is at the end from claim. I've 1907 01:41:01,160 --> 01:41:02,880 Speaker 1: heard his name, and he can run. He's one of 1908 01:41:02,920 --> 01:41:04,600 Speaker 1: the faster guys. But even he only runs in the 1909 01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:06,760 Speaker 1: mid four fours. What's gonna be here? We are saying 1910 01:41:07,240 --> 01:41:10,080 Speaker 1: he only runs in the mid four four. That's fast enough, 1911 01:41:10,200 --> 01:41:12,040 Speaker 1: but he's gonna be a first round draft choice, and 1912 01:41:12,040 --> 01:41:13,759 Speaker 1: I don't think the Bills want to invest that highly 1913 01:41:13,840 --> 01:41:17,599 Speaker 1: with some of the other presumably more pressing needs. One 1914 01:41:18,520 --> 01:41:22,040 Speaker 1: running back to me, this year for the bills's a 1915 01:41:22,080 --> 01:41:27,920 Speaker 1: throw in a guy who's got the perfect free agent 1916 01:41:27,960 --> 01:41:30,719 Speaker 1: for them to sign as a guy who is who's 1917 01:41:30,760 --> 01:41:36,599 Speaker 1: got who ticks some boxes physically and for whatever reason 1918 01:41:36,840 --> 01:41:39,360 Speaker 1: hasn't found his way like he's been in a behind 1919 01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:41,559 Speaker 1: like Derrick Henry someplace, or you know what I mean, 1920 01:41:41,880 --> 01:41:43,559 Speaker 1: one of those guys. Well, I was kind of looking 1921 01:41:43,640 --> 01:41:45,400 Speaker 1: up and down the free agent list, saying, Okay, who 1922 01:41:45,439 --> 01:41:49,240 Speaker 1: could the Bills get without paying a premium and a 1923 01:41:49,320 --> 01:41:54,040 Speaker 1: guy that's used to being in a committee backfield, And 1924 01:41:54,280 --> 01:41:57,800 Speaker 1: I instantly started looking for guys that had been in 1925 01:41:57,840 --> 01:42:01,080 Speaker 1: the San Francisco Committee backfield, and a lot of them 1926 01:42:01,120 --> 01:42:07,000 Speaker 1: are free agents. So you've got Jerick McKinnon, who was 1927 01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:09,320 Speaker 1: in the committee backfield in San Francisco this past year, 1928 01:42:09,439 --> 01:42:12,920 Speaker 1: runs a four to four one. Okay, right. You got 1929 01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:16,040 Speaker 1: Matt Brita, who was traded from San Francisco to Miami 1930 01:42:16,720 --> 01:42:19,439 Speaker 1: never got on the field this year, runs a four 1931 01:42:19,439 --> 01:42:24,360 Speaker 1: to three eight. And Tevin Coleman, who was injured for 1932 01:42:24,680 --> 01:42:27,479 Speaker 1: most of the year in San Francisco formerly of the Falcons, 1933 01:42:27,880 --> 01:42:30,840 Speaker 1: runs a four to three nine. Yeah. So if you 1934 01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:35,080 Speaker 1: want to add a change of pace speed guy, I 1935 01:42:35,240 --> 01:42:38,559 Speaker 1: think any one of those three could fit the bill. 1936 01:42:39,120 --> 01:42:41,439 Speaker 1: And I don't think they would come in here expecting 1937 01:42:41,520 --> 01:42:44,560 Speaker 1: to be toting the mail every single week, if you 1938 01:42:44,640 --> 01:42:47,360 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You know who else is a 1939 01:42:47,520 --> 01:42:51,760 Speaker 1: free agent by this Leonard Fournette. Yeah, he's gonna cost 1940 01:42:51,800 --> 01:42:55,240 Speaker 1: just some money maybe, But you got the top guys 1941 01:42:55,320 --> 01:42:57,840 Speaker 1: on at least on this. You know, you go down 1942 01:42:57,920 --> 01:43:00,920 Speaker 1: the list all the way down to you know, you 1943 01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:04,200 Speaker 1: got Rex Burkhead, Carlos Hide, Brian Hill, Taiwan Jones. He 1944 01:43:04,240 --> 01:43:06,679 Speaker 1: goes to Malcolm Brown, t J. Yeld and Dion Lewis, 1945 01:43:07,120 --> 01:43:12,640 Speaker 1: Chris Thompson, Jered McKinnon. That you've got listen of these 1946 01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:16,759 Speaker 1: three guys that come up right together, Lashawn McCoy, Adrian Peterson, 1947 01:43:16,880 --> 01:43:22,240 Speaker 1: Frank Gore, no row and those guys are you need 1948 01:43:22,280 --> 01:43:24,560 Speaker 1: a guy that can get to the edge, you know, 1949 01:43:24,920 --> 01:43:27,600 Speaker 1: help you in the outside zone running game where this 1950 01:43:27,720 --> 01:43:31,519 Speaker 1: team came up short this year in terms of average 1951 01:43:31,600 --> 01:43:34,680 Speaker 1: game per play, and it's due in part to the 1952 01:43:34,760 --> 01:43:37,760 Speaker 1: fact that you have two running backs who one can 1953 01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:39,960 Speaker 1: push the pile, has a little bit of wiggle, maybe 1954 01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:42,200 Speaker 1: make a linebacker missing the hole. And then you have 1955 01:43:42,280 --> 01:43:45,240 Speaker 1: Devin Singletary who was very elusive. But neither of those 1956 01:43:45,320 --> 01:43:48,680 Speaker 1: players are explosive. Here's the only you need, an explosive 1957 01:43:48,720 --> 01:43:51,160 Speaker 1: player who can get to the edge, win the corner 1958 01:43:51,400 --> 01:43:53,479 Speaker 1: and get up field. Here's the only three guys I'm 1959 01:43:53,520 --> 01:43:56,920 Speaker 1: looking at. Well, I told you the three I'm looking 1960 01:43:56,960 --> 01:44:05,360 Speaker 1: at Matt Brida, Yeah, Leonard Fournette and Brian Hill from Atlanta. Yeah. 1961 01:44:05,439 --> 01:44:07,800 Speaker 1: And you know why, nice young player, You know why 1962 01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:10,160 Speaker 1: I like those three. They're they're the youngest guys available 1963 01:44:10,160 --> 01:44:14,760 Speaker 1: there twenty six. Yeah, that to me, bring him in 1964 01:44:14,800 --> 01:44:17,760 Speaker 1: a look at him. Brian Hill, the guy just said three. 1965 01:44:17,840 --> 01:44:20,920 Speaker 1: He made two point one last year. Fournette of course 1966 01:44:21,000 --> 01:44:26,080 Speaker 1: made two million, and the other guy, Matt Brita, made 1967 01:44:26,160 --> 01:44:29,519 Speaker 1: three point two million. That's a lot of money for 1968 01:44:29,560 --> 01:44:32,240 Speaker 1: those guys. But Brita is not coming from a position 1969 01:44:32,320 --> 01:44:36,200 Speaker 1: of strength. Barely played in Miami. I mean, Miles Gaskin 1970 01:44:36,920 --> 01:44:39,360 Speaker 1: played over him, and he's made three point two million 1971 01:44:39,439 --> 01:44:43,800 Speaker 1: on the bench. So my pitch to him is, hey, 1972 01:44:43,840 --> 01:44:45,200 Speaker 1: you want to go to a Super Bowl this year. 1973 01:44:46,280 --> 01:44:48,920 Speaker 1: You can do it as a committee backfield member here 1974 01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:51,599 Speaker 1: in Buffalo. And you have something that neither of our 1975 01:44:51,640 --> 01:44:54,560 Speaker 1: other two guys have. We will utilize you will give you. 1976 01:44:54,920 --> 01:44:58,200 Speaker 1: We'll give you, you know, a whatever, a small contract, 1977 01:44:58,240 --> 01:45:00,040 Speaker 1: but it'll be laced with incentives. So if you and 1978 01:45:00,600 --> 01:45:02,400 Speaker 1: believe me, and you can ask the guys, and you 1979 01:45:02,439 --> 01:45:04,000 Speaker 1: can ask anybody you want. And this is where the 1980 01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:08,479 Speaker 1: Bill's culture really comes into play. Sean McDermott, Brandon be 1981 01:45:08,479 --> 01:45:10,800 Speaker 1: and say, listen, you call all our guys. Here's their number. 1982 01:45:10,840 --> 01:45:14,840 Speaker 1: Here's here's Devin Singletary's number. Here's Zach Moss's number, here's 1983 01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:17,840 Speaker 1: Steph Dig's number. Here's all these guys. You can talk 1984 01:45:17,840 --> 01:45:20,640 Speaker 1: to him if you earn it. You're gonna get it. 1985 01:45:22,000 --> 01:45:24,680 Speaker 1: So we're not going to rotate if you're if you 1986 01:45:24,760 --> 01:45:27,839 Speaker 1: start snapping off six and seven and twenty yard carries 1987 01:45:27,880 --> 01:45:30,320 Speaker 1: in nineteen yard carries, you're not coming off the field. 1988 01:45:30,840 --> 01:45:32,760 Speaker 1: So it's not like we're gonna rotate you in no 1989 01:45:32,880 --> 01:45:35,040 Speaker 1: matter what. If you're the guy that's getting it done, 1990 01:45:35,080 --> 01:45:38,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna get the ball. So we'll lace your contract 1991 01:45:38,320 --> 01:45:40,400 Speaker 1: with incentives and if you earn it, you're gonna get it. 1992 01:45:41,400 --> 01:45:44,400 Speaker 1: That's and that is you can etch that in stone 1993 01:45:44,439 --> 01:45:47,320 Speaker 1: with this head franchise and maybe that maybe you got 1994 01:45:47,400 --> 01:45:49,320 Speaker 1: a chance at him then. And I think running backs 1995 01:45:49,439 --> 01:45:52,559 Speaker 1: especially are going to be looking for one year deals 1996 01:45:52,640 --> 01:45:56,200 Speaker 1: right now because they know in a depressed market, in 1997 01:45:56,280 --> 01:45:59,120 Speaker 1: a buyer's market, they're not going to make big money 1998 01:45:59,200 --> 01:46:01,679 Speaker 1: this year. Maybe Leonard Fournette gets lucky for a team 1999 01:46:01,720 --> 01:46:03,479 Speaker 1: that can spend some money based on the year that 2000 01:46:03,560 --> 01:46:05,840 Speaker 1: he had here, especially at the end over one hundred 2001 01:46:05,880 --> 01:46:09,760 Speaker 1: yards rushing in the Super Bowl. But aside from him, 2002 01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:12,519 Speaker 1: there aren't many free agents that are going to hit 2003 01:46:12,560 --> 01:46:14,280 Speaker 1: it big at the running back position, so I think 2004 01:46:14,360 --> 01:46:17,800 Speaker 1: most of them will be interested in taking only a 2005 01:46:17,880 --> 01:46:21,280 Speaker 1: one year deal hope they can get some success, and 2006 01:46:22,080 --> 01:46:24,599 Speaker 1: one place where you can get that potentially is here. 2007 01:46:24,800 --> 01:46:27,280 Speaker 1: If you can catch the football and you've got speed 2008 01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:29,680 Speaker 1: to the edge, you can play for a team that's 2009 01:46:29,720 --> 01:46:32,320 Speaker 1: going to be a high profile team on national television 2010 01:46:32,360 --> 01:46:34,400 Speaker 1: a lot. And if you can make some plays and 2011 01:46:34,520 --> 01:46:36,760 Speaker 1: make some key contributions to a team that's looking to 2012 01:46:36,760 --> 01:46:39,320 Speaker 1: go to the Super Bowl next year, you can cash 2013 01:46:39,360 --> 01:46:42,080 Speaker 1: in the year after that. And that's why I think, 2014 01:46:42,200 --> 01:46:45,360 Speaker 1: right you know, the Bills have a lot to offer here, 2015 01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:47,519 Speaker 1: more than a lot of other teams right now. I 2016 01:46:47,560 --> 01:46:49,479 Speaker 1: think that's the one thing about the Bills, and this 2017 01:46:49,640 --> 01:46:51,120 Speaker 1: year is really going to put that to the test. 2018 01:46:51,200 --> 01:46:53,639 Speaker 1: I think because there are so many guys you really 2019 01:46:53,720 --> 01:46:56,080 Speaker 1: would you really hate to see walk out the door 2020 01:46:57,360 --> 01:47:00,719 Speaker 1: if they do like Feliciano, like Milano, you know, guys 2021 01:47:00,800 --> 01:47:02,439 Speaker 1: like that, you don't want to see him walk away. 2022 01:47:02,479 --> 01:47:04,280 Speaker 1: Daryl Williams or eight tackle, you don't want to see 2023 01:47:04,360 --> 01:47:07,599 Speaker 1: him walk away. And it's really the thing that put 2024 01:47:07,720 --> 01:47:09,840 Speaker 1: this team's gonna get put to the test buyers of 2025 01:47:09,920 --> 01:47:12,360 Speaker 1: one thing they've done really well, and that's build a team. 2026 01:47:13,720 --> 01:47:16,080 Speaker 1: Sean mcdermot's ability to get these guys to come in 2027 01:47:16,400 --> 01:47:19,600 Speaker 1: and buy in and be part of the family and 2028 01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:23,000 Speaker 1: trust what's going on. That's but that's been their strength, 2029 01:47:23,680 --> 01:47:25,960 Speaker 1: and that's really going to be important this year because 2030 01:47:26,000 --> 01:47:28,439 Speaker 1: you've got so many guys that were you're gonna have 2031 01:47:28,479 --> 01:47:30,200 Speaker 1: to let go of some guys that really were good 2032 01:47:30,439 --> 01:47:34,920 Speaker 1: contributors and because of the finances of the league. From 2033 01:47:34,960 --> 01:47:37,320 Speaker 1: tiffitting on the tweet sheet, a running back that can 2034 01:47:37,400 --> 01:47:39,880 Speaker 1: break tackles and run away from defenders would be ideal. 2035 01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:42,559 Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind seeing Nagie Harris in a Bill's uniform. 2036 01:47:42,960 --> 01:47:46,920 Speaker 1: He has impressive size, solid numbers. He lists all his stats, 2037 01:47:46,960 --> 01:47:49,280 Speaker 1: you know, two hundred fifty carries, fourteen hundred yards, twenty 2038 01:47:49,320 --> 01:47:51,920 Speaker 1: six touchdowns, average five point apri carry, possibly the next 2039 01:47:51,960 --> 01:47:54,439 Speaker 1: coming of Derrick Henry. While that's all well and good, 2040 01:47:54,520 --> 01:47:57,280 Speaker 1: I just think Najie Harris he's a little more sudden 2041 01:47:57,840 --> 01:48:03,800 Speaker 1: and a little more explosive. And Zach Moss or Devin Singletary. 2042 01:48:03,880 --> 01:48:05,880 Speaker 1: The problem here is you're gonna probably have to use 2043 01:48:05,960 --> 01:48:08,240 Speaker 1: your first pick in the draft to get him, and 2044 01:48:08,479 --> 01:48:10,439 Speaker 1: that might not even be soon enough. At pick thirty 2045 01:48:10,479 --> 01:48:13,400 Speaker 1: he might be off the board already. So that's the 2046 01:48:13,439 --> 01:48:16,560 Speaker 1: problem number one. Problem Number two, I don't think his 2047 01:48:16,760 --> 01:48:21,799 Speaker 1: skill set is different enough to appeal to the Bills 2048 01:48:21,880 --> 01:48:25,280 Speaker 1: from what they already have in Zack Moss and Devin Singletary. 2049 01:48:25,800 --> 01:48:28,160 Speaker 1: I think he's much the same type of player. Yes, 2050 01:48:28,240 --> 01:48:30,439 Speaker 1: he's a little bit faster, runs in the mid four fives. 2051 01:48:30,960 --> 01:48:33,040 Speaker 1: I suppose if he blows it up at his pro day, 2052 01:48:33,360 --> 01:48:35,479 Speaker 1: maybe that could change the conversation. But if he does, 2053 01:48:35,560 --> 01:48:37,439 Speaker 1: it's only going to drive his value up even more. 2054 01:48:37,479 --> 01:48:41,400 Speaker 1: And I just don't see him being on the Bill's 2055 01:48:41,479 --> 01:48:44,080 Speaker 1: radar based on where they sit on the draft board. 2056 01:48:45,840 --> 01:48:47,240 Speaker 1: And like I said, I think there's gonna be some 2057 01:48:47,320 --> 01:48:49,160 Speaker 1: other more pressing needs. I think they're gonna have to 2058 01:48:49,200 --> 01:48:52,000 Speaker 1: fill the hole that I think inevitably is going to 2059 01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:55,800 Speaker 1: be left behind by Matt Milano. There could be some 2060 01:48:55,920 --> 01:48:57,960 Speaker 1: holes on the offensive line you're gonna have to address 2061 01:48:58,000 --> 01:48:59,960 Speaker 1: if they can't get all those guys back under contract. 2062 01:49:00,920 --> 01:49:05,439 Speaker 1: And I just don't see third running back warranting an 2063 01:49:05,479 --> 01:49:08,760 Speaker 1: investment of that size, right and that value. If you've 2064 01:49:08,760 --> 01:49:10,720 Speaker 1: got two guys you really like, both of them are 2065 01:49:10,760 --> 01:49:16,599 Speaker 1: on their rookie contracts, you don't want to you want 2066 01:49:16,600 --> 01:49:19,320 Speaker 1: to blow the financial gain that gives you by by 2067 01:49:19,439 --> 01:49:21,200 Speaker 1: throwing a third guy in. There's gonna get a third 2068 01:49:21,280 --> 01:49:23,519 Speaker 1: of the carries or so you think it's gonna get 2069 01:49:23,560 --> 01:49:26,280 Speaker 1: a third of the carries for three times the money. 2070 01:49:26,600 --> 01:49:31,200 Speaker 1: That makes no sense. I think in the financial situation 2071 01:49:31,280 --> 01:49:32,720 Speaker 1: that the Bills are in and the league is in 2072 01:49:33,760 --> 01:49:35,560 Speaker 1: because of it, I mean, the Bills are not in 2073 01:49:35,840 --> 01:49:37,960 Speaker 1: them In a normal year, the Bills are not have 2074 01:49:38,120 --> 01:49:42,280 Speaker 1: no problems financially, but because of the shrunken cap, they do. 2075 01:49:43,600 --> 01:49:46,280 Speaker 1: And I don't think the way we're sitting now, the 2076 01:49:46,320 --> 01:49:48,599 Speaker 1: further we get into the conversation, I don't think running 2077 01:49:48,600 --> 01:49:50,960 Speaker 1: backs on their radar at all to upgrade or change 2078 01:49:51,040 --> 01:49:53,559 Speaker 1: that much. And in fact, they may be sitting there thinking, 2079 01:49:53,640 --> 01:49:56,639 Speaker 1: come on, Christian Wade, you know, come on, Antonio Williams, 2080 01:49:56,720 --> 01:49:58,519 Speaker 1: you know what are you guys gonna have to help 2081 01:49:58,600 --> 01:50:02,400 Speaker 1: us out. Antonio Williams could be the guy, you know, 2082 01:50:02,520 --> 01:50:06,200 Speaker 1: the way he played against the Dolphins and Christian Way. 2083 01:50:06,240 --> 01:50:08,040 Speaker 1: There's a ton of people pulling for him because of 2084 01:50:08,120 --> 01:50:10,519 Speaker 1: the story he is. So this may be one of 2085 01:50:10,560 --> 01:50:13,200 Speaker 1: those positions that we talk about this offseason where they 2086 01:50:13,240 --> 01:50:15,920 Speaker 1: go and I think they're good. I think we're good 2087 01:50:15,920 --> 01:50:19,960 Speaker 1: the way where we're at, Yeah, could very well be. Yeah, 2088 01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:23,839 Speaker 1: Peter on the tweet sheet says a Thurman Thomas clone. 2089 01:50:24,120 --> 01:50:27,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, those are easy to find. Those those fall 2090 01:50:27,120 --> 01:50:31,560 Speaker 1: out of tree. Singletary seems to have some of the attributes, 2091 01:50:31,640 --> 01:50:34,160 Speaker 1: but still has a lot to prove. All due respect 2092 01:50:34,240 --> 01:50:38,080 Speaker 1: to Devin Singletary, not Thurman Thomas. Sorry he's not just not. 2093 01:50:38,840 --> 01:50:41,600 Speaker 1: I get it. It's a nice comparison. Yeah, he's just not. 2094 01:50:42,160 --> 01:50:46,879 Speaker 1: Sorry from jack Nelan, Moss and Singletary are too similar. 2095 01:50:47,360 --> 01:50:51,160 Speaker 1: One cuts smaller guys and neither have game breaking speed. 2096 01:50:51,280 --> 01:50:53,439 Speaker 1: If you're going to do a running back by committee, 2097 01:50:53,439 --> 01:50:56,559 Speaker 1: you need different styles of backs see Jonathan Taylor versus 2098 01:50:56,680 --> 01:50:59,439 Speaker 1: Niheim Hines. Yes, and I think that's what the Bills 2099 01:50:59,439 --> 01:51:02,000 Speaker 1: are after. They could be looking for a third back 2100 01:51:02,080 --> 01:51:04,759 Speaker 1: that offers something different. Steve and I are of the opinion, 2101 01:51:04,880 --> 01:51:07,360 Speaker 1: the shared opinion, that you need a speedback that can 2102 01:51:07,439 --> 01:51:10,000 Speaker 1: get to the edge on outside zone plays, get around 2103 01:51:10,040 --> 01:51:13,160 Speaker 1: the corner, get up field, be a jitterbug that can 2104 01:51:13,240 --> 01:51:17,240 Speaker 1: get separation in the passing game and has good hands. 2105 01:51:17,920 --> 01:51:22,040 Speaker 1: That's kind of what you're looking for. I'm torn on that, Okay, 2106 01:51:22,200 --> 01:51:24,120 Speaker 1: I'm torn on the philosophy that you need a different 2107 01:51:24,160 --> 01:51:29,919 Speaker 1: guy like Derrick Henry is opposed to whatever, Barry Sanders 2108 01:51:30,040 --> 01:51:31,880 Speaker 1: or you know you, Derrick Henry is well. I mean 2109 01:51:31,960 --> 01:51:34,040 Speaker 1: look at look at Tampa. You had Leonard Fournette and 2110 01:51:34,200 --> 01:51:36,400 Speaker 1: Ronald Jones. I mean Ronald Jones is the speed guy. 2111 01:51:36,479 --> 01:51:38,120 Speaker 1: Not to say the Leonard Fournette can't run. He can 2112 01:51:38,200 --> 01:51:40,120 Speaker 1: run for a big man. But yeah, they're not that 2113 01:51:40,280 --> 01:51:43,200 Speaker 1: different either to me. Now, certainly they have skill sets 2114 01:51:43,240 --> 01:51:44,840 Speaker 1: once a little better here and a little less. They're 2115 01:51:45,000 --> 01:51:48,680 Speaker 1: that kind of thing, but they're not that different. And 2116 01:51:48,840 --> 01:51:51,759 Speaker 1: neither and I agree Moss Singletary are not that different 2117 01:51:51,760 --> 01:51:55,439 Speaker 1: at different. Moss a little bigger, a little more physical, yeah, 2118 01:51:55,640 --> 01:51:58,320 Speaker 1: and Singletary is a little bit more make you miss, 2119 01:52:00,000 --> 01:52:02,560 Speaker 1: and I don't I like. To me, I like that 2120 01:52:02,760 --> 01:52:06,360 Speaker 1: better than having a Derrick Henry and somebody else, like 2121 01:52:06,520 --> 01:52:10,759 Speaker 1: a Darren Sproles, because when one guy's on the field, 2122 01:52:13,160 --> 01:52:15,480 Speaker 1: you're not going to tip your hand. You're you're predictable, 2123 01:52:16,240 --> 01:52:17,760 Speaker 1: and it's not that you we think and we know 2124 01:52:17,800 --> 01:52:19,640 Speaker 1: what you're gonna do. But they do know this, they 2125 01:52:19,680 --> 01:52:21,840 Speaker 1: know what you're not gonna do. Right, You're not gonna 2126 01:52:21,880 --> 01:52:27,280 Speaker 1: put that guy. I don't mind putting, you know, Matt 2127 01:52:27,360 --> 01:52:30,719 Speaker 1: Milano or Tremaine Edmund's man on man in pass coverage 2128 01:52:30,760 --> 01:52:33,479 Speaker 1: with Derrick Henry, they can cover him, but you got 2129 01:52:33,520 --> 01:52:35,960 Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara back there. Now, I got to do something 2130 01:52:35,960 --> 01:52:39,679 Speaker 1: different defensively, right. So I think when you get guys 2131 01:52:39,720 --> 01:52:41,840 Speaker 1: that are vastly different as running backs on the same 2132 01:52:41,920 --> 01:52:44,680 Speaker 1: team and you start switching him in and out, you 2133 01:52:45,479 --> 01:52:48,599 Speaker 1: start taking things off the field that gives the defense 2134 01:52:48,640 --> 01:52:51,519 Speaker 1: the edge instead of giving it to your offense. That's 2135 01:52:51,680 --> 01:52:56,280 Speaker 1: my philosophy, right. I mean, I like running backs. Maybe 2136 01:52:56,320 --> 01:52:58,560 Speaker 1: it's because I played with Therm. I like guys that 2137 01:52:58,600 --> 01:53:00,680 Speaker 1: can do it all. I like the Walter Peyton yea 2138 01:53:00,920 --> 01:53:02,720 Speaker 1: love you'd love to have a guy like that. But 2139 01:53:03,080 --> 01:53:05,400 Speaker 1: this day and age in the NFL, running back contingents 2140 01:53:05,400 --> 01:53:07,760 Speaker 1: are usually made up of two or three players you 2141 01:53:07,920 --> 01:53:09,840 Speaker 1: try to make And I think part of the reason 2142 01:53:09,920 --> 01:53:13,800 Speaker 1: the Bills have Singletary and Moss and because of some 2143 01:53:13,960 --> 01:53:17,400 Speaker 1: of their similarities. They're not wholly similar, but they're kind 2144 01:53:17,479 --> 01:53:20,519 Speaker 1: of similar. But that's with probably there's some intent to 2145 01:53:20,600 --> 01:53:23,880 Speaker 1: that so that teams can't predict what they're going to 2146 01:53:24,000 --> 01:53:27,320 Speaker 1: do because they're close enough and ability where if one 2147 01:53:27,360 --> 01:53:29,240 Speaker 1: comes on the field as opposed to the other, it's 2148 01:53:29,320 --> 01:53:31,160 Speaker 1: not a lock. As to what the Bills may or 2149 01:53:31,240 --> 01:53:34,240 Speaker 1: may not run, So they still maintain that air of 2150 01:53:34,400 --> 01:53:40,160 Speaker 1: unpredictability because they do have enough similarities to their respective games. Yeah, 2151 01:53:40,200 --> 01:53:46,000 Speaker 1: and I'm I'm all about that. I you think back, 2152 01:53:46,200 --> 01:53:48,360 Speaker 1: and I think one of the reasons most teams do 2153 01:53:48,640 --> 01:53:51,320 Speaker 1: the back, you know, more than one running back, running 2154 01:53:51,320 --> 01:53:53,759 Speaker 1: back by committee, call it what you will, is because 2155 01:53:53,840 --> 01:53:56,960 Speaker 1: the game has evolved into a spot where not only 2156 01:53:57,040 --> 01:54:00,799 Speaker 1: are they asked to do so much, split out formation, pass, protect, 2157 01:54:00,920 --> 01:54:03,559 Speaker 1: run physical inside the tackles, and outrun people to the edge. 2158 01:54:03,720 --> 01:54:05,559 Speaker 1: It's hard to find a guy like that. And if 2159 01:54:05,560 --> 01:54:09,400 Speaker 1: you've got a guy like that, the tendency is to 2160 01:54:09,520 --> 01:54:13,200 Speaker 1: give him three hundred and fifty touches. Yeah, Christian McCaffrey, Right, 2161 01:54:13,479 --> 01:54:16,280 Speaker 1: that's hard, right, And look what happened to Christian McCaffrey 2162 01:54:16,320 --> 01:54:18,040 Speaker 1: this year. So that's what happened to a ton of guys. 2163 01:54:18,040 --> 01:54:19,920 Speaker 1: That's what happened to Chris Johnson, the Y two K 2164 01:54:20,720 --> 01:54:23,439 Speaker 1: in Tennessee. That's what happens to a lot of guys. 2165 01:54:24,120 --> 01:54:26,120 Speaker 1: It's rare that you get a guy like a Frank 2166 01:54:26,200 --> 01:54:29,240 Speaker 1: Gore and Adrian Peterson or Ladanian, Tomlinson or I Thurman 2167 01:54:29,280 --> 01:54:31,600 Speaker 1: Thomas for that matter. Who can go out there and 2168 01:54:31,760 --> 01:54:36,160 Speaker 1: do that for a long time and never miss a beat. 2169 01:54:37,080 --> 01:54:43,400 Speaker 1: The game is it demands too much and the guy 2170 01:54:43,720 --> 01:54:46,400 Speaker 1: most guys can't hold up to that. So that's simple 2171 01:54:46,800 --> 01:54:49,920 Speaker 1: from jack A on the tweet sheet. A shifty speedster 2172 01:54:50,080 --> 01:54:53,280 Speaker 1: who can catch a guy like etten. We're still going 2173 01:54:53,360 --> 01:54:55,640 Speaker 1: for first round running backs here. He can pick up 2174 01:54:55,680 --> 01:54:57,640 Speaker 1: the occasional blitzer, he can hit the holes fast, and 2175 01:54:57,680 --> 01:54:59,680 Speaker 1: he's a beast on screens and other pass routes. He's 2176 01:54:59,680 --> 01:55:01,600 Speaker 1: fast and slippery, a threat to score every time he 2177 01:55:01,640 --> 01:55:03,880 Speaker 1: gets the ball. That's the kind of running back they need, 2178 01:55:04,000 --> 01:55:06,160 Speaker 1: an X factor. I think they do need the kind 2179 01:55:06,200 --> 01:55:08,160 Speaker 1: of player that can take at the distance. If given 2180 01:55:08,280 --> 01:55:11,800 Speaker 1: enough open field, that's where he's gonna run away from defenders. Yeah, 2181 01:55:11,920 --> 01:55:14,800 Speaker 1: that's what you need. Um, you want a guy like 2182 01:55:14,880 --> 01:55:16,840 Speaker 1: at end, though you're gonna pay a premium for it, 2183 01:55:16,960 --> 01:55:20,160 Speaker 1: and he's not gonna necessarily outrun every defensive back in 2184 01:55:20,160 --> 01:55:23,640 Speaker 1: the league. Get four four six right. And I'll say 2185 01:55:23,680 --> 01:55:29,760 Speaker 1: this though, in all fairness to running backs, everywhere we've 2186 01:55:29,840 --> 01:55:35,240 Speaker 1: seen it happen. I mean for guys to get run down, 2187 01:55:36,280 --> 01:55:40,640 Speaker 1: it doesn't happen all that often, and even if you 2188 01:55:40,720 --> 01:55:45,240 Speaker 1: do get run down, even for instance, like the Terren 2189 01:55:45,320 --> 01:55:49,160 Speaker 1: Johnson pick six, you know, if you do it right, 2190 01:55:49,280 --> 01:55:51,240 Speaker 1: you don't have to out the Lamar. Jactually could run 2191 01:55:51,280 --> 01:55:53,840 Speaker 1: circles around Terren Johnson. Terren Johnson runs a four or five, 2192 01:55:54,000 --> 01:55:55,880 Speaker 1: Lamar runs four three and he went one hundred and 2193 01:55:55,880 --> 01:55:58,720 Speaker 1: one yards with the guy out in front of blocking help. Yeah, 2194 01:55:58,800 --> 01:56:03,120 Speaker 1: that's what you do. I'm not I get it too. 2195 01:56:03,160 --> 01:56:05,320 Speaker 1: It's it's fun to have one of those guys like 2196 01:56:05,400 --> 01:56:07,640 Speaker 1: a Tyreek Hill is just frightening when he gets the ball, 2197 01:56:07,680 --> 01:56:09,879 Speaker 1: just like Chris Johnson was for the for the Tennessee 2198 01:56:09,920 --> 01:56:12,440 Speaker 1: Titans under Jeff Fisher that running back. There are guys 2199 01:56:12,560 --> 01:56:14,640 Speaker 1: like that who pop up every so often, who were 2200 01:56:14,720 --> 01:56:17,200 Speaker 1: fast in a league that's full of fast guys, and 2201 01:56:17,360 --> 01:56:20,680 Speaker 1: that's hard to do. They're rare. I don't think you're 2202 01:56:20,680 --> 01:56:22,880 Speaker 1: gonna get one of those guys's low hanging fruit in 2203 01:56:22,920 --> 01:56:26,880 Speaker 1: a draft where you're picking thirtieth. Yeah, all right, we 2204 01:56:27,000 --> 01:56:29,600 Speaker 1: have to take a break. When we return, we will 2205 01:56:29,680 --> 01:56:33,840 Speaker 1: have one Doug Flutie joining us, and we're bringing him 2206 01:56:33,880 --> 01:56:37,120 Speaker 1: on today because he played under Marty Schottenheimer. I want 2207 01:56:37,120 --> 01:56:40,600 Speaker 1: to get his thoughts on playing under the two hundred 2208 01:56:40,880 --> 01:56:46,240 Speaker 1: coach after his unfortunate passing we learned of today get 2209 01:56:46,520 --> 01:56:49,520 Speaker 1: some perspective from Doug Flutie when we return here on 2210 01:56:49,600 --> 01:56:51,839 Speaker 1: One Bills Live, presented by Kaloid of Health. It's Buffalo 2211 01:56:51,880 --> 01:57:04,920 Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. Welcome back to the One of Bills Live. 2212 01:57:05,000 --> 01:57:07,760 Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Jasper, final half hour of the program 2213 01:57:07,840 --> 01:57:11,160 Speaker 1: and without any further ado, we go to the phone 2214 01:57:11,200 --> 01:57:14,280 Speaker 1: line where we have one Doug Flutie joining us. Maybe 2215 01:57:14,320 --> 01:57:16,640 Speaker 1: you've heard of him, played quarterback for the Bills, along 2216 01:57:16,680 --> 01:57:19,320 Speaker 1: with a very successful career in the CFL. Also played 2217 01:57:19,400 --> 01:57:23,520 Speaker 1: for the San Diego Chargers under one Marty Schottenheimer, who 2218 01:57:23,560 --> 01:57:27,040 Speaker 1: we unfortunately lost from the NFL family today after a 2219 01:57:27,120 --> 01:57:29,880 Speaker 1: long battle with Alzheimer's disease. And that's the main reason 2220 01:57:29,960 --> 01:57:32,680 Speaker 1: we've got Doug on today to kind of share a 2221 01:57:32,760 --> 01:57:35,200 Speaker 1: little of what life is like as a football player 2222 01:57:35,240 --> 01:57:39,080 Speaker 1: on a day to day basis under one Marty Schottenheimer. Doug, 2223 01:57:39,120 --> 01:57:42,320 Speaker 1: thanks for giving us some time today. And why don't 2224 01:57:42,320 --> 01:57:45,960 Speaker 1: we start right there with Marty and what your time 2225 01:57:46,080 --> 01:57:49,960 Speaker 1: with him was like. Oh, it was my second year 2226 01:57:50,040 --> 01:57:52,160 Speaker 1: out in San Diego and Marty took over the head 2227 01:57:52,240 --> 01:57:56,720 Speaker 1: job and you know when he came in, We've just 2228 01:57:56,840 --> 01:57:59,880 Speaker 1: gotten Drew Brees and Drew was taking over a quarterback. 2229 01:58:00,120 --> 01:58:04,880 Speaker 1: Can I think more than anything when you look at Marty, 2230 01:58:06,040 --> 01:58:08,920 Speaker 1: he was an organizational guy. He was a supervisor and 2231 01:58:09,040 --> 01:58:15,160 Speaker 1: overseer of everything. And he treated the head coaching job 2232 01:58:16,680 --> 01:58:20,880 Speaker 1: as a teacher, and he was an English teacher in 2233 01:58:20,960 --> 01:58:25,320 Speaker 1: the past. And he was very cerebral, which was different 2234 01:58:25,400 --> 01:58:28,080 Speaker 1: from me because I you know, I've had some coaches 2235 01:58:28,160 --> 01:58:30,280 Speaker 1: that at one time or another where you're in your 2236 01:58:30,320 --> 01:58:34,440 Speaker 1: face kind of coaches and the loud and voiceous. But Marty. 2237 01:58:34,720 --> 01:58:38,920 Speaker 1: Marty was quiet. He said anytime he spoke, he meant 2238 01:58:39,000 --> 01:58:42,240 Speaker 1: what he was saying. The words were very efficient all 2239 01:58:42,320 --> 01:58:44,640 Speaker 1: the time. And I remember a couple of phrases that 2240 01:58:44,720 --> 01:58:47,200 Speaker 1: he used to bring up and that stuck with your 2241 01:58:47,280 --> 01:58:51,640 Speaker 1: number one. His number one thing was building trust, building 2242 01:58:51,680 --> 01:58:55,640 Speaker 1: trust within your team, and then eliminate doubt. He said, 2243 01:58:55,720 --> 01:58:59,080 Speaker 1: that's the reason for your preparation, that's the reason you 2244 01:58:59,160 --> 01:59:03,600 Speaker 1: watch film, the reason you practice is all in an 2245 01:59:03,640 --> 01:59:06,520 Speaker 1: effort to eliminate doubt so you can go out and 2246 01:59:06,600 --> 01:59:10,080 Speaker 1: play with confidence. And the other phrase that he always 2247 01:59:10,120 --> 01:59:13,320 Speaker 1: threw at you was your best is good enough as 2248 01:59:13,360 --> 01:59:16,000 Speaker 1: long as you give your best all the time, it's 2249 01:59:16,080 --> 01:59:19,360 Speaker 1: good enough to win that you don't need a superhuman effort. 2250 01:59:19,800 --> 01:59:22,560 Speaker 1: Your best will get it done. And those were just 2251 01:59:22,680 --> 01:59:25,840 Speaker 1: some phrases and things that I remember pulling from Marty. 2252 01:59:25,960 --> 01:59:29,920 Speaker 1: One of my favorite all time was I started that way, 2253 01:59:30,040 --> 01:59:33,120 Speaker 1: was saying that that Drew came in and was taking over. 2254 01:59:33,520 --> 01:59:36,600 Speaker 1: And Marty wasn't really a Doug flutey guy, a guy 2255 01:59:36,680 --> 01:59:39,440 Speaker 1: that thought, you know. His impression to me was that 2256 01:59:39,600 --> 01:59:41,760 Speaker 1: of a scrambling quarterback, a guy that was just going 2257 01:59:41,840 --> 01:59:44,680 Speaker 1: to run around and try to make plays. And the 2258 01:59:44,800 --> 01:59:48,440 Speaker 1: first day on the practice field I kind of made 2259 01:59:48,440 --> 01:59:51,960 Speaker 1: an effort to do this as well. It was a 2260 01:59:52,040 --> 01:59:53,760 Speaker 1: day where I threw the ball very well and the 2261 01:59:53,840 --> 01:59:58,480 Speaker 1: ball didn't touch the ground, and I made my hot 2262 01:59:58,520 --> 02:00:01,040 Speaker 1: reads and I was checking my p pecans and all that. 2263 02:00:01,680 --> 02:00:04,280 Speaker 1: And as I'm walking off a few Marty walks over, 2264 02:00:04,400 --> 02:00:07,040 Speaker 1: wraps his arm around me and says, you do a 2265 02:00:07,120 --> 02:00:09,920 Speaker 1: lot of things well, And I think I sort of 2266 02:00:09,960 --> 02:00:12,360 Speaker 1: won him over in that day. And then you know, 2267 02:00:12,440 --> 02:00:14,440 Speaker 1: I was always the backup while Marty was there and 2268 02:00:14,520 --> 02:00:17,960 Speaker 1: Drew was the starter. Yeah, And one of the things 2269 02:00:18,000 --> 02:00:20,920 Speaker 1: about Schottenheimer's he and I said this earlier in the 2270 02:00:20,960 --> 02:00:23,520 Speaker 1: show here, Doug, he struck me like like you said 2271 02:00:24,440 --> 02:00:26,200 Speaker 1: you and I mean you grow up. And he got 2272 02:00:26,200 --> 02:00:28,200 Speaker 1: all these guys that were yellers and scream the old 2273 02:00:28,240 --> 02:00:30,320 Speaker 1: school kind of coaches that were as my way or 2274 02:00:30,360 --> 02:00:32,880 Speaker 1: the highway, and it was this way. Marty was kind 2275 02:00:32,880 --> 02:00:36,040 Speaker 1: of in that generation of coaches who brought football out 2276 02:00:36,080 --> 02:00:39,280 Speaker 1: a kind of those dark ages into a form of 2277 02:00:39,440 --> 02:00:43,640 Speaker 1: leadership rather than authoritarianism. And I thought that was kind 2278 02:00:43,680 --> 02:00:46,280 Speaker 1: of the era in which he coached and had so 2279 02:00:46,400 --> 02:00:48,440 Speaker 1: much success. I mean, the guy won two hundred games 2280 02:00:48,480 --> 02:00:51,080 Speaker 1: as a as a head coach and with four different teams. 2281 02:00:52,360 --> 02:00:54,760 Speaker 1: I think that's probably what I remember him most at 2282 02:00:54,880 --> 02:00:56,880 Speaker 1: is he was more one of those first guys that 2283 02:00:57,000 --> 02:00:59,720 Speaker 1: was first. He was a leader and a teacher, and 2284 02:01:00,040 --> 02:01:02,480 Speaker 1: his authority went with the trust that he garned. He 2285 02:01:02,800 --> 02:01:06,480 Speaker 1: was a pretty remarkable guy. Really they when you talk 2286 02:01:06,520 --> 02:01:08,920 Speaker 1: about being a teacher, that's what he was. He was 2287 02:01:09,040 --> 02:01:12,240 Speaker 1: a teacher, and he was an organization. Okay. He taught 2288 02:01:12,360 --> 02:01:18,680 Speaker 1: you how to organize your day, how to organize studying 2289 02:01:18,760 --> 02:01:22,280 Speaker 1: and film watching and everything else. And you know, I 2290 02:01:22,720 --> 02:01:25,440 Speaker 1: really I didn't know him as a player obviously, and 2291 02:01:25,560 --> 02:01:28,400 Speaker 1: I think back, it kind of surprised me when I 2292 02:01:28,520 --> 02:01:32,320 Speaker 1: realized he was a Buffalo bill and played, uh you 2293 02:01:32,360 --> 02:01:35,240 Speaker 1: know it was a linebacker. We're number fifty six there. 2294 02:01:35,280 --> 02:01:38,240 Speaker 1: But there's the Marty. I remember Marty with the Browns 2295 02:01:38,400 --> 02:01:42,720 Speaker 1: and the drive that Cleveland had going and fumbled inside 2296 02:01:42,760 --> 02:01:45,920 Speaker 1: the ten, and he had he coached a lot of 2297 02:01:46,000 --> 02:01:48,680 Speaker 1: teams into the playoffs. He did a great job. Last 2298 02:01:48,720 --> 02:01:50,320 Speaker 1: thing I got for you on Marty because you know 2299 02:01:50,400 --> 02:01:52,440 Speaker 1: you always heard about Marty Paul and this and that. 2300 02:01:52,680 --> 02:01:56,680 Speaker 1: How excited was this guy to use Ladany and Tomlinson 2301 02:01:56,760 --> 02:01:59,040 Speaker 1: in the game plan every week? I have to imagine 2302 02:01:59,080 --> 02:02:01,600 Speaker 1: that that's got to be a dream scenario for the 2303 02:02:01,720 --> 02:02:04,760 Speaker 1: kind of style of football that Marty Marty wanted to play. 2304 02:02:04,840 --> 02:02:07,280 Speaker 1: You're giving me lt Are you kidding me? Were you? 2305 02:02:08,280 --> 02:02:11,600 Speaker 1: We worked around lt no doubt. I remember a coupboy 2306 02:02:11,880 --> 02:02:14,440 Speaker 1: LTI's rookie year, just tanning the ball off to him 2307 02:02:14,440 --> 02:02:19,960 Speaker 1: and watching My favorite all time LT run was when 2308 02:02:20,000 --> 02:02:23,080 Speaker 1: you talk about his whole game, LT could pick up 2309 02:02:23,120 --> 02:02:25,600 Speaker 1: blitz Is. He was an amazing runner with the ball 2310 02:02:25,640 --> 02:02:27,720 Speaker 1: in his hands. He caught the ball like a receiver 2311 02:02:27,880 --> 02:02:30,600 Speaker 1: and ran routes like a receiver. He could also throw 2312 02:02:30,680 --> 02:02:33,080 Speaker 1: the halfback pass by the way. But and so he 2313 02:02:33,440 --> 02:02:36,240 Speaker 1: was very versatile in our offense and Marty knew how 2314 02:02:36,240 --> 02:02:39,680 Speaker 1: to use him. Marty's son, Brian Schottenheimer, became the offensive 2315 02:02:39,720 --> 02:02:43,200 Speaker 1: coordinator at that time. And my favorite, all time favorite 2316 02:02:43,240 --> 02:02:46,040 Speaker 1: run of LT was handed off Timber playing the Patriots 2317 02:02:46,080 --> 02:02:48,800 Speaker 1: in San Diego. There were two unblocked guys in the hole. 2318 02:02:49,280 --> 02:02:51,440 Speaker 1: He started to bounce, he put his foot in the ground, 2319 02:02:51,480 --> 02:02:53,160 Speaker 1: did a jump cut right between the two of them, 2320 02:02:53,200 --> 02:02:54,520 Speaker 1: went up through the hole and took off for his 2321 02:02:54,600 --> 02:02:57,680 Speaker 1: sixty four yard touchdown. And I just smiled, and I 2322 02:02:57,800 --> 02:03:00,200 Speaker 1: smiled the day that we were playing in Detroit, and 2323 02:03:00,280 --> 02:03:02,920 Speaker 1: it through five two in the first half, two five 2324 02:03:03,000 --> 02:03:06,760 Speaker 1: yard little angle routes to LT, and one was a 2325 02:03:06,840 --> 02:03:10,200 Speaker 1: sixty yard touchdown and one was a seventy yard touchdown. Jese, Yeah, 2326 02:03:10,320 --> 02:03:13,560 Speaker 1: that's yeah. He just took off split people, and yeah, 2327 02:03:13,680 --> 02:03:18,040 Speaker 1: we used every ounce of his athleticism and talent. You're 2328 02:03:18,040 --> 02:03:20,400 Speaker 1: still staying busy. I mean you've obviously you know, you win, 2329 02:03:20,680 --> 02:03:23,040 Speaker 1: you win the Heisman Trophy and eighty four. Then you 2330 02:03:23,080 --> 02:03:26,720 Speaker 1: have a twenty one year career in pro football with 2331 02:03:26,880 --> 02:03:29,400 Speaker 1: both in Canada and in the NFL and uh, you 2332 02:03:29,480 --> 02:03:32,320 Speaker 1: end up you're with the Patriots to San Diego, you're 2333 02:03:32,360 --> 02:03:35,120 Speaker 1: with Buffalo obviously here What were some of the things 2334 02:03:35,640 --> 02:03:37,200 Speaker 1: as you as you look back across it and you 2335 02:03:37,320 --> 02:03:40,200 Speaker 1: talk about guys like Ladanian Thomlinson, you played behind Brady 2336 02:03:40,280 --> 02:03:44,040 Speaker 1: in New England and oh five, you know what now 2337 02:03:44,280 --> 02:03:45,600 Speaker 1: and you look at this. You were down to the 2338 02:03:45,600 --> 02:03:49,080 Speaker 1: Super Bowl this week in Tampa Bay doing the flag 2339 02:03:49,120 --> 02:03:54,080 Speaker 1: football thing. This game has evolved so far and even 2340 02:03:54,160 --> 02:03:56,640 Speaker 1: in a year where it was different because of COVID. 2341 02:03:56,720 --> 02:03:58,840 Speaker 1: What are your impressions of where the league is now? 2342 02:03:58,960 --> 02:04:02,360 Speaker 1: How it pulled off two hundred and fifty six regular 2343 02:04:02,400 --> 02:04:06,200 Speaker 1: season games during a global pandemic. What are your thoughts 2344 02:04:06,200 --> 02:04:08,160 Speaker 1: about where the NFL is now and where it might 2345 02:04:08,200 --> 02:04:10,960 Speaker 1: be headed in the years to come. Well, I was, 2346 02:04:11,800 --> 02:04:15,200 Speaker 1: you know, it was such enough the year was so 2347 02:04:15,480 --> 02:04:17,240 Speaker 1: up in the air, and to be able to pull 2348 02:04:17,280 --> 02:04:19,320 Speaker 1: it off and get through the season and play everything 2349 02:04:19,440 --> 02:04:22,720 Speaker 1: and then it became second nature by the end of 2350 02:04:22,720 --> 02:04:25,360 Speaker 1: the year of how they followed protocol and how everybody 2351 02:04:25,440 --> 02:04:28,320 Speaker 1: stayed healthy and to go through the playoffs and have 2352 02:04:28,440 --> 02:04:31,480 Speaker 1: a successful Super Bowl. Hats off to the NFL for 2353 02:04:31,560 --> 02:04:34,680 Speaker 1: pulling everything off. That was amazing. The way the NFL, 2354 02:04:35,160 --> 02:04:39,480 Speaker 1: the direction of the game. I love the style of offenses. 2355 02:04:39,920 --> 02:04:41,520 Speaker 1: I love to spread it out and throwing the ball. 2356 02:04:41,560 --> 02:04:43,160 Speaker 1: It's a lot of stuff we did back in my 2357 02:04:43,280 --> 02:04:46,880 Speaker 1: Canadian days that has now filtered into the NFL, and 2358 02:04:47,000 --> 02:04:50,919 Speaker 1: I love that aggressive style. I do my own podcast. 2359 02:04:51,000 --> 02:04:52,920 Speaker 1: Actually had Kurt Warner on today and he and I 2360 02:04:53,000 --> 02:04:58,120 Speaker 1: were talking about how amazing it is in that day 2361 02:04:58,160 --> 02:05:00,800 Speaker 1: and age of the NFL, this style, all the quarterbacks 2362 02:05:00,840 --> 02:05:02,960 Speaker 1: that are getting drafted, all these kids that are so 2363 02:05:03,200 --> 02:05:07,320 Speaker 1: athletic that Tom stands in the pocket delivers the ball 2364 02:05:07,800 --> 02:05:11,720 Speaker 1: and almost makes it mundane and boring. You look back 2365 02:05:11,720 --> 02:05:14,240 Speaker 1: at this Super Bowl game. There isn't a play that 2366 02:05:14,360 --> 02:05:18,040 Speaker 1: Tom Brady had that will be being shown twenty years 2367 02:05:18,120 --> 02:05:20,760 Speaker 1: from now. It's just the unbelievable play that happened in 2368 02:05:20,880 --> 02:05:23,760 Speaker 1: this Super Bowl right. It was just methodical, a couple 2369 02:05:23,800 --> 02:05:27,560 Speaker 1: of touchdowns, three touchdown passes, the ability to move the 2370 02:05:27,600 --> 02:05:29,440 Speaker 1: football up and down the field. There on that you 2371 02:05:29,480 --> 02:05:31,960 Speaker 1: see him just drift to the right. That's scrambling for him. 2372 02:05:32,480 --> 02:05:35,440 Speaker 1: He drifted to the outside of the pocket. And then 2373 02:05:35,480 --> 02:05:37,960 Speaker 1: then this one is all game planned. This is the 2374 02:05:38,040 --> 02:05:40,920 Speaker 1: difference in Tom Brady is looking at film throughout the 2375 02:05:41,040 --> 02:05:45,160 Speaker 1: week and game planning walk in touchdowns and this is 2376 02:05:45,720 --> 02:05:49,600 Speaker 1: you know, it's just him winning from the pocket that 2377 02:05:50,320 --> 02:05:53,720 Speaker 1: is so unique in the game today. And then and 2378 02:05:53,960 --> 02:05:56,480 Speaker 1: by the way, it is the Flute Flakes Cast. I mean, 2379 02:05:56,560 --> 02:05:58,640 Speaker 1: that's the new podcast Doug's got, so check it out 2380 02:05:58,960 --> 02:06:02,840 Speaker 1: on all your podcast platforms. Doug doing his thing on 2381 02:06:02,920 --> 02:06:05,960 Speaker 1: the podcast side of the Ledger there. But uh, just 2382 02:06:06,160 --> 02:06:09,320 Speaker 1: with respect to Super Bowl Week, you've got a house 2383 02:06:09,360 --> 02:06:13,880 Speaker 1: down in Florida. What's up with the Batmobile? Though? What 2384 02:06:14,080 --> 02:06:16,880 Speaker 1: I saw these I saw these pictures, I was like, 2385 02:06:17,240 --> 02:06:19,760 Speaker 1: holy cow, he's got like one of the original ones. 2386 02:06:19,840 --> 02:06:22,440 Speaker 1: Like we're not talking from any of the new, you know, 2387 02:06:22,640 --> 02:06:25,600 Speaker 1: genre of movies. This is from like the sixties show 2388 02:06:26,040 --> 02:06:29,880 Speaker 1: that I used to watch, granted in syndication. But where 2389 02:06:29,920 --> 02:06:32,520 Speaker 1: did you get your hands on that thing? I was 2390 02:06:32,600 --> 02:06:36,560 Speaker 1: a fan of the show. Uh, not necessarily a Batman 2391 02:06:36,760 --> 02:06:38,920 Speaker 1: geek or a comic book geek or anything like that, 2392 02:06:39,040 --> 02:06:43,080 Speaker 1: but I loved the Batmobile and I stumbled onto a 2393 02:06:43,160 --> 02:06:48,320 Speaker 1: website that makes bat Mobile replicas and I laughed about 2394 02:06:48,360 --> 02:06:50,320 Speaker 1: it for like a year. My wife and I looked 2395 02:06:50,320 --> 02:06:52,640 Speaker 1: at it and joked tough only called the guy. Well, 2396 02:06:52,680 --> 02:06:54,800 Speaker 1: it wound up that he would take over four years 2397 02:06:54,880 --> 02:06:56,960 Speaker 1: to get it to me, and I, you know, once 2398 02:06:57,040 --> 02:06:58,640 Speaker 1: I was hooked, I couldn't do that. So I started 2399 02:06:58,640 --> 02:07:02,760 Speaker 1: calling around. I found an went out in California, bought it, 2400 02:07:03,000 --> 02:07:06,280 Speaker 1: restored it, put a new engine in it, and fix 2401 02:07:06,400 --> 02:07:08,680 Speaker 1: it up a little bit. And I thought at first 2402 02:07:08,720 --> 02:07:10,280 Speaker 1: I just sneaked, and I did. I just kind of 2403 02:07:10,320 --> 02:07:12,080 Speaker 1: snuck out at night and drove it a little bit 2404 02:07:12,240 --> 02:07:15,280 Speaker 1: and took it to a car show or in a parade, 2405 02:07:16,000 --> 02:07:18,120 Speaker 1: and then everybody knew I had it, so it's like, 2406 02:07:18,200 --> 02:07:20,920 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm driving the thing. And I started 2407 02:07:21,040 --> 02:07:24,520 Speaker 1: driving it around and then people that know I haven't 2408 02:07:24,800 --> 02:07:27,400 Speaker 1: requested it a few of my appearances at Super Bowl, 2409 02:07:27,760 --> 02:07:29,880 Speaker 1: so I drove it across the state, drove it over 2410 02:07:29,920 --> 02:07:32,000 Speaker 1: to Tampa, and brought it to a few events. Yeah. 2411 02:07:32,240 --> 02:07:35,600 Speaker 1: I try. I try not to watch that show, like 2412 02:07:35,800 --> 02:07:37,600 Speaker 1: now that I'm older, because when I was a kid, 2413 02:07:37,680 --> 02:07:40,200 Speaker 1: you watched the guys climbing up the building on the cables. 2414 02:07:40,560 --> 02:07:42,520 Speaker 1: You know, It's like all they did was turned to 2415 02:07:42,640 --> 02:07:44,800 Speaker 1: damn camera sideways to make it look like they're going 2416 02:07:44,800 --> 02:07:46,960 Speaker 1: straight up a building. And it's like I'm trying. I 2417 02:07:47,120 --> 02:07:48,760 Speaker 1: try not to watch it because I know I'll just 2418 02:07:48,880 --> 02:07:52,320 Speaker 1: be disappointed as an adult. You know what, the first 2419 02:07:52,400 --> 02:07:54,960 Speaker 1: season if you're throwing the you know. Once I got 2420 02:07:55,120 --> 02:07:57,720 Speaker 1: was getting the car and doing all this stuff, I 2421 02:07:57,880 --> 02:08:01,240 Speaker 1: went back and watched the DVDs and the first season 2422 02:08:01,640 --> 02:08:05,520 Speaker 1: is watchable. It's it's it's funny, there's some humor to 2423 02:08:05,680 --> 02:08:08,320 Speaker 1: pick at and see. Then they tried a little too 2424 02:08:08,360 --> 02:08:12,360 Speaker 1: hard and it's it's rough to watch. You get past 2425 02:08:12,440 --> 02:08:14,360 Speaker 1: the first half of the first season and it's a 2426 02:08:14,400 --> 02:08:17,320 Speaker 1: little bit rough to watch, but it's really cool. I've 2427 02:08:17,320 --> 02:08:20,400 Speaker 1: become friendly with Adam West agent. Adam West passed away 2428 02:08:20,400 --> 02:08:23,920 Speaker 1: about four or five years ago, and it's it's just 2429 02:08:24,120 --> 02:08:26,240 Speaker 1: really cool to reminisce about the show and get some 2430 02:08:26,360 --> 02:08:28,880 Speaker 1: inside stories from him. And I've got a bunch of 2431 02:08:28,960 --> 02:08:31,560 Speaker 1: memorabile you now, And it's just it took on a 2432 02:08:31,680 --> 02:08:33,520 Speaker 1: life of its own. Yeah, it's funny too because you 2433 02:08:33,800 --> 02:08:36,800 Speaker 1: think about it. Uh, with all my experience being at 2434 02:08:36,800 --> 02:08:39,440 Speaker 1: Super Bowls, playing in him and then covering him for 2435 02:08:39,640 --> 02:08:43,400 Speaker 1: all the time I did driving around the batmobile is perfect. 2436 02:08:45,440 --> 02:08:48,200 Speaker 1: It is absolutely perfect. There's a lot stranger stuff than 2437 02:08:48,280 --> 02:08:52,560 Speaker 1: that Big Poppy had a vent at Top Golf, right, 2438 02:08:52,720 --> 02:08:55,280 Speaker 1: and uh, they said, you gotta bring the Batmobile over. 2439 02:08:55,280 --> 02:08:57,720 Speaker 1: You gotta bring the Batmobile over. So I drove over 2440 02:08:57,800 --> 02:09:02,160 Speaker 1: in the Batmobile and I pull up out front and 2441 02:09:02,360 --> 02:09:05,560 Speaker 1: there's three or four Lamborghinis, there's a Ferrari, there's a 2442 02:09:05,600 --> 02:09:09,440 Speaker 1: couple of Maseratis, and I pull the Batmobile into that group. Now, 2443 02:09:09,520 --> 02:09:14,080 Speaker 1: these other cars can blow mine away, like just mine's 2444 02:09:14,080 --> 02:09:17,160 Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty six, right, But I've got a Corvette 2445 02:09:17,160 --> 02:09:19,040 Speaker 1: engine and now so it runs pretty good. But it's 2446 02:09:19,080 --> 02:09:21,720 Speaker 1: not going to touch it and it gets it got 2447 02:09:21,960 --> 02:09:24,360 Speaker 1: more attention than any of the other It's it's it's 2448 02:09:24,400 --> 02:09:28,480 Speaker 1: just for people our generation. It's so iconic to look at. Yeah, 2449 02:09:28,520 --> 02:09:30,480 Speaker 1: I mean the first time I saw one in person, 2450 02:09:30,600 --> 02:09:32,800 Speaker 1: I just wanted to touch it. I just wanted to like, 2451 02:09:33,280 --> 02:09:35,640 Speaker 1: you know, this is this is you know, I'm I'm 2452 02:09:35,720 --> 02:09:38,360 Speaker 1: six years old, now what looking at this every time 2453 02:09:38,360 --> 02:09:40,960 Speaker 1: I every time I get in into or look at it. Yeah, nobody, 2454 02:09:41,080 --> 02:09:43,520 Speaker 1: nobody can relate to the most people can't relate to 2455 02:09:43,520 --> 02:09:46,280 Speaker 1: the Lamborghinis and the Maseratis and stuff. But everybody feels 2456 02:09:46,320 --> 02:09:48,920 Speaker 1: like they own the Batmobile, right, I mean, they it's there, 2457 02:09:49,000 --> 02:09:51,440 Speaker 1: they had it as a toy as a kid. I mean, yeah, 2458 02:09:51,600 --> 02:09:54,760 Speaker 1: it's a whole different. We all had the hot Wheels cars, 2459 02:09:55,080 --> 02:09:59,120 Speaker 1: the little hot wheels, batmobiles and h no doubt, and 2460 02:09:59,280 --> 02:10:01,200 Speaker 1: you know you grew up with the show. I turned 2461 02:10:01,360 --> 02:10:04,280 Speaker 1: the back half of my garage. By the way, it's 2462 02:10:04,320 --> 02:10:06,800 Speaker 1: turned into a nineteen sixty six bat cave. If you 2463 02:10:06,880 --> 02:10:09,880 Speaker 1: walk into the looks like because you got like the 2464 02:10:09,960 --> 02:10:13,000 Speaker 1: pinball machine too, right, I had. I had over two 2465 02:10:13,120 --> 02:10:17,240 Speaker 1: years waiting for this car, so I was bored. I 2466 02:10:17,360 --> 02:10:19,680 Speaker 1: had to think, Oh, you know what, I'm gonna section 2467 02:10:19,720 --> 02:10:21,960 Speaker 1: it off. I'm gonna air condition that area of the garage. 2468 02:10:22,520 --> 02:10:24,600 Speaker 1: Then I'm gonna oh, I'll put a banner up. Oh, 2469 02:10:24,720 --> 02:10:26,560 Speaker 1: we'll paint the walls, make it look like a cave. Oh, 2470 02:10:27,000 --> 02:10:29,800 Speaker 1: people start buying. It was an easy Christmas and Birthday gift, 2471 02:10:29,960 --> 02:10:33,640 Speaker 1: some batmobile something or Batman membor bilia. So it just 2472 02:10:33,760 --> 02:10:35,280 Speaker 1: kind of took on a life of its own. And 2473 02:10:35,360 --> 02:10:37,200 Speaker 1: then how the heck did you get roped into the 2474 02:10:37,880 --> 02:10:43,280 Speaker 1: flag football game with these w E guys. But the 2475 02:10:43,480 --> 02:10:46,360 Speaker 1: WWE guys, now that's a whole different. Can you see 2476 02:10:46,400 --> 02:10:51,760 Speaker 1: my lip? Oh? Yeah, split yeah there there. Um. I 2477 02:10:51,880 --> 02:10:54,560 Speaker 1: played the flag football game every year for wounded warriors. 2478 02:10:54,640 --> 02:10:56,960 Speaker 1: It's for the military. We've done this for twenty two 2479 02:10:57,040 --> 02:11:00,560 Speaker 1: years and we had a couple of WWE guys. Well, 2480 02:11:00,720 --> 02:11:03,480 Speaker 1: come out, you know, I know nothing about that all that. 2481 02:11:03,600 --> 02:11:06,760 Speaker 1: I remember Gronk winning the twenty four seven title. I'm like, 2482 02:11:06,840 --> 02:11:09,560 Speaker 1: what the heck is that? And they're saying, well, what 2483 02:11:09,640 --> 02:11:11,600 Speaker 1: it is is you know, at any time, you can 2484 02:11:11,680 --> 02:11:14,080 Speaker 1: take the guy down and you pin them. You're the chat. 2485 02:11:14,720 --> 02:11:17,440 Speaker 1: So they're doing an interview and I sneak up behind him, 2486 02:11:18,000 --> 02:11:19,680 Speaker 1: put a little move, a roll under the ground, and 2487 02:11:19,720 --> 02:11:22,160 Speaker 1: I pined him. I'm the chant. I got a belt. 2488 02:11:22,400 --> 02:11:24,240 Speaker 1: I got the belt. I'm holding it up right. So 2489 02:11:24,320 --> 02:11:26,240 Speaker 1: we're warming up to start the second half. We're getting 2490 02:11:26,240 --> 02:11:30,440 Speaker 1: ready to start the second half, and I'm talking with it. Actually, 2491 02:11:30,440 --> 02:11:34,360 Speaker 1: I was taking some snaps and had the belt over 2492 02:11:34,480 --> 02:11:36,360 Speaker 1: my shoulder. He comes up from behind me, does the 2493 02:11:36,400 --> 02:11:38,480 Speaker 1: same darn move, dumps me, puts me on my back, 2494 02:11:38,560 --> 02:11:41,400 Speaker 1: the belt swings around, smacks me in the face at 2495 02:11:41,440 --> 02:11:44,120 Speaker 1: an angle. I got a line cut on my nose, 2496 02:11:44,120 --> 02:11:45,560 Speaker 1: I cut on my upper lip, a couple on my 2497 02:11:45,640 --> 02:11:48,520 Speaker 1: bottom the right you can see it. And I couldn't 2498 02:11:48,560 --> 02:11:50,760 Speaker 1: get the stupid bottom lip to stop bleeding when we 2499 02:11:50,880 --> 02:11:53,880 Speaker 1: were playing the flag football game, so I look like 2500 02:11:53,960 --> 02:11:56,320 Speaker 1: a warrior for a little while. It was fun. Those 2501 02:11:56,400 --> 02:11:59,520 Speaker 1: guys are amazing. Our truth is the guy I stole 2502 02:11:59,600 --> 02:12:02,280 Speaker 1: the tight from and then gave it back to. Yeah. Cool. 2503 02:12:02,440 --> 02:12:04,160 Speaker 1: That was kind of cool though, looking at the pictures 2504 02:12:04,200 --> 02:12:07,840 Speaker 1: as a video up. Also as a riot Doug, thanks man, 2505 02:12:07,960 --> 02:12:09,840 Speaker 1: Craig chucked him up with you again. A good best 2506 02:12:09,920 --> 02:12:11,840 Speaker 1: wishes to you and I hope we crossed past soon. 2507 02:12:13,200 --> 02:12:15,880 Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Thanks so much. Yeah, we'll be taking a 2508 02:12:15,920 --> 02:12:18,080 Speaker 1: look at you or listen to you on that Flutie 2509 02:12:18,080 --> 02:12:22,080 Speaker 1: Flakes cast as well. Now doing a podcast. Who isn't 2510 02:12:22,080 --> 02:12:25,040 Speaker 1: doing a podcast these days, Steve, I ask you, But 2511 02:12:25,160 --> 02:12:28,000 Speaker 1: he's got Kurt Warner on, so be sure to tune 2512 02:12:28,000 --> 02:12:30,680 Speaker 1: into that on your podcast platforms. Are thanks to Doug 2513 02:12:30,760 --> 02:12:32,600 Speaker 1: for kind of shedding a little light on the kind 2514 02:12:32,600 --> 02:12:35,760 Speaker 1: of head coach Marty Schottenheimer was gone too soon at 2515 02:12:35,760 --> 02:12:38,520 Speaker 1: age seventy seven. Steve and I back to wrap things 2516 02:12:38,640 --> 02:12:40,840 Speaker 1: up here on One Bill's Line presented by Kalid to Health, 2517 02:12:40,880 --> 02:12:56,400 Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio time for what have We Learned? 2518 02:12:56,920 --> 02:13:01,520 Speaker 1: Brought to you by Skyworks, the official construction equipment rental 2519 02:13:01,640 --> 02:13:05,440 Speaker 1: company of the Buffalo Bills. I think we think we 2520 02:13:05,560 --> 02:13:09,120 Speaker 1: learned today, Steve, that you know from your experiences with 2521 02:13:09,240 --> 02:13:12,880 Speaker 1: Marty Schottenheimer and with Doug Flutie's who just shared those 2522 02:13:12,920 --> 02:13:16,800 Speaker 1: with us today, teacher is kind of what comes up 2523 02:13:16,840 --> 02:13:20,360 Speaker 1: the most. A guy that wanted to teach and develop players, 2524 02:13:20,480 --> 02:13:23,840 Speaker 1: not just coach them. Yeah, he was, like I said, 2525 02:13:23,920 --> 02:13:26,800 Speaker 1: I think Doug Flutie reiterated it and agreed with me 2526 02:13:26,880 --> 02:13:30,000 Speaker 1: that Marty was like one of the in his day. 2527 02:13:30,040 --> 02:13:31,600 Speaker 1: He was kind of a new age guy. He was 2528 02:13:31,640 --> 02:13:35,240 Speaker 1: a leader and a teacher. There was no yelling and 2529 02:13:35,320 --> 02:13:38,120 Speaker 1: screaming and be rating guys publicly or any of that. 2530 02:13:38,200 --> 02:13:39,480 Speaker 1: He was trying to make them better. And a lot 2531 02:13:39,520 --> 02:13:41,280 Speaker 1: of guys who have chimed in on social media have 2532 02:13:41,320 --> 02:13:43,360 Speaker 1: said he was a difference maker in their lives. It's 2533 02:13:43,440 --> 02:13:45,520 Speaker 1: nice to seem remembered in a fond way by by 2534 02:13:45,600 --> 02:13:49,120 Speaker 1: everybody who actually knew him. Tomorrow's show, our position breakdown 2535 02:13:49,320 --> 02:13:52,360 Speaker 1: of the Bills continues with the offensive line. We're gonna 2536 02:13:52,400 --> 02:13:56,520 Speaker 1: have spot tracks Mike Jannetti to break down the economics 2537 02:13:56,880 --> 02:13:59,320 Speaker 1: of the free agents on the offensive line that the 2538 02:13:59,400 --> 02:14:02,640 Speaker 1: Bills have to address some tough decisions there. We'll see 2539 02:14:02,640 --> 02:14:11,800 Speaker 1: you tomorrow. M