Speaker 1: What up, y'all. This is your main man, Memphis Bleak
Speaker 1: right here.
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Speaker 1: Big with the year Memphis. I'm back at it, niggas.
Speaker 1: Notice the difference just pron president.
Speaker 2: Yeah, y'all, you already know what it is. Back with
Speaker 2: another exclusive. And I tell you see a many people
Speaker 2: sitting on this stage, sitting right here with me, and
Speaker 2: not everybody is like everybody, but this man sitting to
Speaker 2: the left of me, this is family.
Speaker 1: This is my brother. This is a OG.
Speaker 2: Every time he spoke, I listened, So you know it's
Speaker 2: an honor to have him sitting here.
Speaker 1: You know, I gotta say rest in peace to his.
Speaker 3: Brother Earth Godi, who is another legend in this game,
Speaker 3: a brother of mine who taught me many things that
Speaker 3: I still apply to business to this day.
Speaker 2: So I want to welcome my got, Chris Gotti to
Speaker 2: the building. You already know my brother.
Speaker 1: I love you, bro, man. Thank you for having me. Man.
Speaker 1: Appreciate man.
Speaker 2: When they told me it's so crazy how this happened,
Speaker 2: because I was supposed to come here and if you're
Speaker 2: somebody else yesterday and Ormando was like, yo, I was
Speaker 2: just talking to Chris Gotti. I was like, what they
Speaker 2: tell Gotty pull up. It's like y'all, I'm gonna get
Speaker 2: you on the phone. And I'm like, yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 2: As soon as he said that, I was like, what
Speaker 2: I was looking for you?
Speaker 1: I promise you. I told rud not too long ago.
Speaker 3: I need to give a bleak info because I wanted
Speaker 3: to come and talk to you about not just this,
Speaker 3: but other things, other businesses.
Speaker 1: That I'm involved in and I think maybe make some Yeah.
Speaker 2: So you got the Basketball League popping man, congratulations.
Speaker 1: Definitely want to talk to you about that. Man.
Speaker 3: We just season season one. We did season one. You know,
Speaker 3: it's really just money. I gotta raise more money. But
Speaker 3: season one was incredible, sold out every week. It's a
Speaker 3: it's a small league, short seasons, CPL right, CPO.
Speaker 1: Class pro league. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And again it's all D one players or players that
Speaker 3: played overseas or you know, and it's I've been inside
Speaker 3: the street basketball for decades. You feel me helped Greg
Speaker 3: Matters with God bless Greg when he did Rucker had
Speaker 3: it at the height helping Ken Steven shout out Ken,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, helped him with Dykeman to
Speaker 3: get Dykeman really at it where it's at today.
Speaker 1: And that gave me a lot of insight. You know,
Speaker 1: I have a.
Speaker 3: Sports management business that I did, you know, that's what
Speaker 3: you know. For over almost thirty going into thirty years,
Speaker 3: and I've been involved with either co aging or co
Speaker 3: managing or managing all these different NBA players or football players.
Speaker 3: I even had one golfer professional golfer. So I'm inside
Speaker 3: the sports culture aside from just music, like I've been
Speaker 3: doing that. And the reason I went into it is
Speaker 3: because when them boys came, got to diversify because they
Speaker 3: shut off the fastt That's the fact.
Speaker 2: But Yo, speaking on that, man, that's one thing a
Speaker 2: lot of people don't know. Man, it's only two goddies
Speaker 2: in the world that beat many.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's the GotY Brothers and it is Gotty man, But
Speaker 2: y'all beat them boys, man.
Speaker 1: And that people don't know.
Speaker 3: My lawyer was Gerald Shall he passed just not man,
Speaker 3: God bless, but he was also got his lawyer.
Speaker 1: Da Oh, so he knew man, Man the playbook. He's
Speaker 1: the best attorney I've ever seen something.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: And you know everybody know y'all stood tall.
Speaker 2: You know this in this new world today of all
Speaker 2: these rappers catching cases and shit going down there, you know,
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, one of the.
Speaker 1: Things that we're crazy. We're crazy.
Speaker 3: While we was in trial, to the prosecutor, you know,
Speaker 3: she was always trying to change things or say things
Speaker 3: like that's what their job is or whatever. But he
Speaker 3: would tell the judge, you know, this is the lord,
Speaker 3: this is the case.
Speaker 1: Lord.
Speaker 3: He would break it down and it got so real
Speaker 3: with the judge told her if Gerald Shark Gelle says
Speaker 3: this is what it is, don't question me.
Speaker 1: It's that Nah. It was crazy. She was so mad.
Speaker 1: He was he was a beef, he was a beast.
Speaker 2: Man called him a superman in the courtroom. Man, that
Speaker 2: ship happened at the height of murder, inc man. That's
Speaker 2: one thing I feel like, you know a lot of
Speaker 2: people in this rap industry think rap beef can can
Speaker 2: take ship down, but they don't understand that that happened
Speaker 2: all simultaneously.
Speaker 1: And it's like that was crazy, man. We got.
Speaker 3: But just making me feel that way listen, But you
Speaker 3: know what you just said something that's so real, because
Speaker 3: you know I do podcasts with all types of they
Speaker 3: don't understand and they always bring up the beef and
Speaker 3: it ain't got that. And I said, let me tell
Speaker 3: you entertainment, bro, it's entertainment.
Speaker 1: I said. Number one is I never felt pressure.
Speaker 3: Number Number two was, let's say he took away y'all completely,
Speaker 3: what which never happened, but let's just say that's what
Speaker 3: it like happened.
Speaker 1: We was doing over two and forty million.
Speaker 3: Dollarge exact job. Let's say jobs were for one hundred
Speaker 3: and thirty.
Speaker 1: It was good.
Speaker 3: I'm still right, it was good. But when boys avid boys.
Speaker 3: And then what's even further than most people don't know
Speaker 3: is they universal IDJ, depth JAM cooperated with the FIS
Speaker 3: against us, So you would expect that. Yeah, but you
Speaker 3: say that, but that's my machine. Yes, so how can
Speaker 3: you put out music?
Speaker 1: Yes? They not. And then when you think of business,
Speaker 1: they didn't do anything but shifted from one side from
Speaker 1: murder inc And put it over the aftermath, Gene. That's
Speaker 1: all they did. It was a lateral move.
Speaker 3: Boom, the money gotta move the money, don't change though
Speaker 3: they still eating, They still good, but they definitely you know,
Speaker 3: was did us dirty and.
Speaker 1: Play a major role in that? Man? But ship before that.
Speaker 2: Let's go back, man, the rise of murder in I
Speaker 2: remember when y'all first started coming around.
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't.
Speaker 2: Know Gott he was a a DJ yes when I
Speaker 2: first DJ yes dj he my G holding it down
Speaker 2: on the tour, telling me, yo, you bugging don't be
Speaker 2: leaving the club.
Speaker 1: Going home with no girls. You better bring them to
Speaker 1: the hotel. You don't go. I'm telling you, I was
Speaker 1: the young boy in the wild, told me my G.
Speaker 2: I remember when I first met Ji, all of y'all,
Speaker 2: bj Ron, Gutter, all of y'all man, you know, and
Speaker 2: we became a family facts and then I watched y'all
Speaker 2: grow from the beginning, bro, and it was just like
Speaker 2: a title wave all at once, Like you know, I
Speaker 2: was that man.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. It's really like unreal, like surreal,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You go through these things, you watch all these things transpire,
Speaker 3: and you know the reality murder incing. I've been trying
Speaker 3: to explain because everyone asks, how did Earth start murder inc?
Speaker 1: I said, technically he didn't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And what I mean by that is Earth just
Speaker 3: wanted to be the biggest producer in the game. And
Speaker 3: we had Little Rob. Shout out, Little Rob that was
Speaker 3: the one producer we had with Rob was putting up Yeah,
Speaker 3: but he didn't make a lot. See, so he was
Speaker 3: making hits.
Speaker 1: No question.
Speaker 3: But you know, when you're in business's quantity, I can't.
Speaker 3: I can't service the industry with just a few beats.
Speaker 1: I need a lot.
Speaker 3: And I told IRV I had just made the transition,
Speaker 3: like because I built the construction business. If that was
Speaker 3: funding her nerve saw making some money with top Door productions,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And Rod tells me, Yo,
Speaker 3: I need you back with me because I started Earth.
Speaker 3: And then I said okay, and I started doing both.
Speaker 3: But then after I did both, I got burnt out
Speaker 3: and I said, I'm gonna just do music. But to
Speaker 3: get twenty percent of five thousand dollars ain't gonna pay me.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Man, If I sell three out of the four beats
Speaker 3: Robed made, that's three racks.
Speaker 1: That's not enough.
Speaker 3: So I went back to Earth and said, listen, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna go bring in more producers, and.
Speaker 1: He was like, I don't care what you do.
Speaker 3: I'm not taking less than five thousand, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. I started laughing. It's like, of course I
Speaker 3: got you. So that was the beginning. I started adding
Speaker 3: in producers and the next you know, we went from five.
Speaker 3: I took us from five to fifteen to twenty five
Speaker 3: to fifty in less than six months. We had fifty
Speaker 3: thousand a track. The first year we had one hundred
Speaker 3: thousand a track, you know what I'm saying. And that
Speaker 3: was the beginning of all of that, and we just
Speaker 3: kept going. We went only up to two hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty thousand track or it was getting two fifty. But
Speaker 3: that's all these producers I got. We had a team
Speaker 3: of producers. That's weird her banging out.
Speaker 1: That's how the crackhouse came about. Man, that's the crackhouse.
Speaker 1: Crack house. I was in there. She was like a fortress,
Speaker 1: you know. It was like the Carter.
Speaker 3: It was so real because I was controlling all the
Speaker 3: business on everything. So I'm seeing all the money we
Speaker 3: spending in studios, and I told her I created something
Speaker 3: called mink rentals am I and see murder in rentals
Speaker 3: and we rented. We built our studios so we could
Speaker 3: rent our studio to ourselves to make the money. You know,
Speaker 3: we bought houses to rent the house. We're traveling all over.
Speaker 3: This is when we start really rocking, and I'm watching
Speaker 3: these bills. We had a hundred plus thousand a month
Speaker 3: in car services, so I bought it. I started buying cars.
Speaker 1: And getting all my hood.
Speaker 3: The whole hood is drivers.
Speaker 2: Right, that's the smart way to do it.
Speaker 3: And they universal got mad because we was doing that.
Speaker 3: But I said, it's our bills and went in and
Speaker 3: we went in there and fight. We would go back
Speaker 3: and fight with all of them, and the next you know,
Speaker 3: I see them doing it their own little car. The
Speaker 3: car service, he was the ones that started that. That's
Speaker 3: a fact. And that was because I seen that. I've
Speaker 3: seen that. And then again even the studio were the
Speaker 3: ones to do it. Because I'm watching all of those
Speaker 3: budgets go to Quad Studios and right hit track three,
Speaker 3: right track, and you look at the bill and you're like, damn,
Speaker 3: why they're getting all that money.
Speaker 1: That's a fact, that car service and sending it order
Speaker 1: recirculated that money right back to us. Man.
Speaker 2: No, that was dope man. That was a master plan. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that was and we gave him a discount.
Speaker 1: They was mad.
Speaker 3: We gave him a love price because it was us, like,
Speaker 3: we're doing it for ourselves, so they got we made
Speaker 3: albums cheaper.
Speaker 1: But if we had to produce for other people, they
Speaker 1: got to pay full rate. Everything.
Speaker 2: Think about I'm going to that po sad Man from
Speaker 2: five thousand a track, yeah, two hundred and fifty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in about two years time. It was sweet super.
Speaker 2: That that that ninety five to about twenty fifteen running.
Speaker 3: Oh my well, our heights, Our heights is from two
Speaker 3: thousand and two to two thousand and five.
Speaker 1: But that's when the trial.
Speaker 3: Ends in December two thousand and five.
Speaker 1: And damn, here's the crazyiness. It seemed like fucking fifteen.
Speaker 3: We had a lot of his againness book for the
Speaker 3: longest run at number one, not like, so what do
Speaker 3: you mean if he produced one artist, the other artist
Speaker 3: he produced took that artist out, the next artist took
Speaker 3: that artist.
Speaker 1: Out of producer.
Speaker 3: He was a producer on the Hot one hundred for
Speaker 3: I believe it was like forty eight weeks.
Speaker 1: Damn, Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, it's in again this book.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure the time frame, but it's again, it's
Speaker 1: in there. They can fact check it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they can fact check. He's still it's still the
Speaker 3: only producer to do that. That's something that you know,
Speaker 3: as good as these other producers are, they might produce
Speaker 3: another artist, but they don't go number one or the
Speaker 3: competition gets the number one stake.
Speaker 1: And you're the older brother.
Speaker 2: Yes, so look see little bro go from DJ ear.
Speaker 2: Then it was the Mike Geronimo run because I remember
Speaker 2: when Ship Is reel came out, that was ship was
Speaker 2: Licked and Kennedy he was outside there.
Speaker 3: You know, the ships real for you know Jay to
Speaker 3: bring up Jay, shout out Jay.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, that's right, always always man.
Speaker 3: But that's what made him fuck with probably more in
Speaker 3: my opinion, this is not I would have to ask
Speaker 3: him to be sure.
Speaker 1: Because he came to IRVS like how you getting him played?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: This is when you know, I tell everyone we was
Speaker 3: all a family, but this is competition all time. Hi. Look,
Speaker 3: it's a rapper is a blood spoil, and especially.
Speaker 2: In that era, and it's only ten slots, it's one
Speaker 2: hundred rappers in New York. It's right, and there's only
Speaker 2: ten slots, there's only twelve magazine covers.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 3: And were fighting, so it's like a it's that competition,
Speaker 3: friendly competition, family competition, which is nothing wrong with it
Speaker 3: because it really pushes each.
Speaker 1: Other to the next level.
Speaker 3: And I believe we had that because I remember us
Speaker 3: going into sessions when we had our records and this
Speaker 3: is our album. We go play for each other and
Speaker 3: be like, yeah, this is the date we coming, don't
Speaker 3: come that day, and they give you you know, don't
Speaker 3: come the same time so.
Speaker 1: We don't interrupt each other's run.
Speaker 3: That's that's intellectual property.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 3: That's our p for your ass, and that's we didn't
Speaker 3: give that to anyone outside of the family. Like I
Speaker 3: remember even doing that with Diddy, running with going into
Speaker 3: his sessions like yo were coming, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Rough Fridays it was. It was.
Speaker 3: It was Rockefeller Rough Fridays, Murder and Murder in b
Speaker 3: and bad Boy was again inside of that as well,
Speaker 3: and we we we shared notes and it was a
Speaker 3: real competitive thing.
Speaker 1: But we go in each other sessions. They came in
Speaker 1: all sessions.
Speaker 3: I never Swiss came in our sessions playing heat, shut
Speaker 3: out Swami Swiss.
Speaker 1: He's the one man.
Speaker 2: Army Swiss are coming to session and that one records here.
Speaker 2: Come in there and play some ship and you'll be like,
Speaker 2: I don't think I got records like that.
Speaker 1: No different way, No, Listen. We was blessed. But listen,
Speaker 1: everyone had their game.
Speaker 3: What they wasna just be sitting Oh man, listen, they
Speaker 3: came in with the fire man guns blazing.
Speaker 1: That's a fact.
Speaker 2: Was major, especially between Murder and Rockefeller and uh rough Riders.
Speaker 3: And then when I look back to me, that is
Speaker 3: part of something that made it so special. I look
Speaker 3: back at that and when you put IRV in the middle,
Speaker 3: he was the He was the kind of the person
Speaker 3: that kept everyone all the glue that glued him.
Speaker 2: He definitely was the glue man. We can never take
Speaker 2: that away. And you was the og in the background.
Speaker 1: Man, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like ship?
Speaker 1: What was it like?
Speaker 2: We had this conversation a little bit off camera, but
Speaker 2: I want to bring it up on camera because let's
Speaker 2: talk about it. I got a few cousins right that
Speaker 2: I used to be as a kid growing, I used
Speaker 2: to be mad at be like, damn cuz how you
Speaker 2: ain't rolling the round, how you ain't got the bands
Speaker 2: because you supposed to add the condo up top. Cousin,
Speaker 2: you was eighteen in the eighties when niggas was making
Speaker 2: a million dollars on the corner right a day, a
Speaker 2: day a week, straight up getting it, and you ain't
Speaker 2: go outside and get none of that.
Speaker 1: So I used to be as a kid looking at
Speaker 1: my cousins like niggas was soft. Yeah, niggas wasn't outside.
Speaker 1: You never wanted to think for me. I never hustled,
Speaker 1: no way, never hus never. You just knew all the hustlers.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it all the way one hundred. I
Speaker 1: might have robbed. Oh you was the stick up man.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sticky old. You can't do both. That's why
Speaker 1: I yeah, I was.
Speaker 3: Never on the block because that block life. I looked
Speaker 3: at the block life. All my niggas was on that
Speaker 3: block every day. I never seen him up up never,
Speaker 3: not the block niggas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the niggas was moving, niggas was getting it for them.
Speaker 1: I seen him up. So I never wanted to.
Speaker 3: It was like that's the road you had to travel
Speaker 3: to get to that next stage. It was super violent.
Speaker 3: It was super violent. Likes violence I'm talking about for Hollis.
Speaker 3: I grew up in Hollice Queens. You know, I'm from
Speaker 3: browns People always say that we're from brown from Lavonia.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm from Mother. I'm from Rockaway, Dumont.
Speaker 1: So I'm just saying we was. My family's all in Brownsville.
Speaker 3: My mother's mother and father bought us this house because
Speaker 3: they didn't want eight kids in Brownsville in a three
Speaker 3: bedroom apartment, and they got the house in house, a
Speaker 3: three bedroom house, but we used every inch of the house.
Speaker 3: But we had Hollss Queens, different lifestyle. But again I
Speaker 3: always claim house because that's where I made my life.
Speaker 3: So that's where I did my work and I always
Speaker 3: go if I go back. I always had guns. So
Speaker 3: I was the kid in the neighborhood with the juice.
Speaker 1: Right, that's the movies. The gun. The juice was the gun.
Speaker 1: You have movies. The juice is the because he had
Speaker 1: the gun.
Speaker 2: It was because it wasn't like day it'd be five niggas.
Speaker 2: It's thirty guns in the car. Back in the day,
Speaker 2: it's five niggas. Who has it?
Speaker 3: That's right one gun, so you know me, I had
Speaker 3: it and everyone from the hospital come get me to
Speaker 3: do ship.
Speaker 1: I was Again I always say, you know, I was stupid.
Speaker 3: You know, God protect yours and I never thought of
Speaker 3: consequences and things of my actions.
Speaker 1: I just and it was never me. It was like
Speaker 1: you come and get me, yo. They just shot. Let's
Speaker 1: go get them, come on, it was like, let's go.
Speaker 1: You had that. Not only did I have that, but
Speaker 1: I had money because again I used.
Speaker 3: To do I was money. They couldn't understand how I
Speaker 3: had money and they didn't have the money. I would
Speaker 3: take the niggas on the block shopping, like, come on, niggaleas,
Speaker 3: get you fresh. Look at you your niggas out here
Speaker 3: all day. I was like, you could get a job
Speaker 3: in McDonald's and do better. I would kill them because
Speaker 3: you was to respect the money more. I would kill
Speaker 3: all the black niggas, man, because I was fucking with
Speaker 3: the niggas that was behind them. And then they would
Speaker 3: tell me either come with them to go pick some
Speaker 3: ship up and it hit me off with some bread,
Speaker 3: or they would line some ship up, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I never had that.
Speaker 3: That gene called fear. So it was just and once
Speaker 3: they said it, it was it wasn't me like, oh man,
Speaker 3: am I gonna? I was like cool, let's go. It's
Speaker 3: like it was never that. And for me, I was,
Speaker 3: like you said, I was Herb's big brother. I never
Speaker 3: would tell IRV anything because if I did it, Earth
Speaker 3: did it.
Speaker 1: And I didn't want me to do the things that
Speaker 1: you did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what's up, man, ship My brother ain't giving
Speaker 2: a fuck, Like, hey, nigga, I'm selling drug.
Speaker 1: Come on with bust that down. Here's what you got.
Speaker 1: You know what I tell and I ain't. I don't
Speaker 1: want to say but niggas because.
Speaker 3: Like I don't even smoke or nothing.
Speaker 1: And I was around it my whole life, you know,
Speaker 1: but I didn't.
Speaker 3: Have I lost two uncles though, to that blue magic on.
Speaker 1: Some real Wow. Yeah man, that's crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah. My father on my mother's side and my father's side,
Speaker 3: they grew up in home and they got some bad
Speaker 3: damn man.
Speaker 1: Now that ever back then was bad. Man. You definitely
Speaker 1: had uncles that court, no aunts all that. That era
Speaker 1: was different, man, it was.
Speaker 2: But like I just heard you say, I always kept
Speaker 2: the cool, had always was level headed and I could
Speaker 2: definitely say bro at the height of Murder in from
Speaker 2: the beginning to the height when Gotti and Jah was
Speaker 2: running around like these niggas was determinator.
Speaker 1: Chris Nigga be like, Yo, bleak tripping, don't even worry
Speaker 1: about that ship.
Speaker 2: Just come back in the morning. They gotta have a
Speaker 2: beach for you. Don't even listen.
Speaker 1: We don't got time for that ship. We rock stars.
Speaker 1: Nigga like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like while I'm getting cursed out that I'm not
Speaker 2: accepting I'm a rock stuff.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you when they say it was the
Speaker 3: best time, it was the worst time. You know, we
Speaker 3: have Listen, everyone looks at us like like we had
Speaker 3: a real plan and we understood every Now we didn't.
Speaker 1: We learned as we go. We learned on the flat.
Speaker 1: We're quick learners, you know.
Speaker 3: For me personally, if I watch anyone do something, I
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 1: That's just me. I could do it. That's my blessing.
Speaker 1: Like I look at that.
Speaker 3: I built the whole construction company and I learned every trade.
Speaker 1: I ain't go to school. I learned every part of
Speaker 1: this music business. Right, I'm a lawyer. I'm not a doctor.
Speaker 1: I'm a doctor.
Speaker 3: Like I really learned this ship and I have it.
Speaker 3: No one could take it from you, no matter what
Speaker 3: it is. And my mind is different. And I always
Speaker 3: was quiet. You to tell you I was quiet because
Speaker 3: I'm a student. I'm watching everyone's actions, and my job was.
Speaker 1: To protect my brother and to protect everyone around. That's
Speaker 1: how my job was.
Speaker 3: When I'm when you quiet and you fall back and
Speaker 3: you let earth and job. They out there doing anything,
Speaker 3: you see everyone who's who? You see that when they're
Speaker 3: not paying attention the way they're looking that niggas they
Speaker 3: looking at her like fun. You know, you could say, so,
Speaker 3: I'm telling them afterwards, Yo, this niggas no good, right,
Speaker 3: I'm telling.
Speaker 1: You I've seen the looks. But that's not their job,
Speaker 1: that's right. They in the middle of the storm.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I got homies like that, and the crew that don't talk.
Speaker 2: They come around, don't say a word. You won't even
Speaker 2: remember that when we first started. When you go back,
Speaker 2: when you talk that I was, it was just me.
Speaker 2: I'll be outside. I'd tell them going to club. If
Speaker 2: they coming out, hit me if there's a problem, so
Speaker 2: I know what's coming. I'm outside ham it up, waiting
Speaker 2: for the niggas.
Speaker 1: Coming up. It wasn't until I got fat Boy. Shout out,
Speaker 1: fat Boy, shout out Todd. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: When I got fat Boy inside with me, that was
Speaker 3: my first help. Like, these are my niggas from Queen's.
Speaker 3: They came out, but Irving them, I keep it a buck.
Speaker 3: They didn't want them to come out.
Speaker 1: They like they always in trouble.
Speaker 3: That's what I need.
Speaker 1: You need some trouble, don't worry. I'll keep them away
Speaker 1: from you.
Speaker 3: And you know they love them niggas, but they didn't
Speaker 3: want the trouble to bring them down. Urb and Ruth
Speaker 3: both loved these niggas. They just didn't want to get
Speaker 3: They didn't want to They look were on the rise.
Speaker 3: We're trying to come up. We don't want nothing to
Speaker 3: pull it back.
Speaker 1: Yo. So I had to keep them niggas with me
Speaker 1: and keep them away from Irving.
Speaker 2: Whole is different than that hole half niggas. I'll be
Speaker 2: you know, we got the party. I'll be like, yo,
Speaker 2: it's a party.
Speaker 1: Like, first of all, I'm too young, so I got
Speaker 1: a explimission. Cannot go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be like a yeah you can roll, No nigga,
Speaker 2: I get to this party. Start seeing all the killers
Speaker 2: from the projects. Here, these niggas popping bottles, drinking over
Speaker 2: it's with that funny that, yo, that's why I tell
Speaker 2: niggas the the whole you see.
Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, this is the man.
Speaker 3: I want to write the book about it. It's called
Speaker 3: it's called the.
Speaker 1: The What do you call that?
Speaker 3: The damn you're making me forget right now? It's it's
Speaker 3: like the changing domestication. It's the domestication of a gangster.
Speaker 3: That's going to be my book. I'm right, I like that.
Speaker 1: But that's what he is. He's a domesticated gangst.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I tell you. I tell everyone.
Speaker 3: I said, you know when they talk Jay and they
Speaker 3: talk about him today and where he's at and he's
Speaker 3: the businessman, businessman this I said, he got that because
Speaker 3: he honed his skills this time and ground him from
Speaker 3: the president in his songs.
Speaker 1: You just listen.
Speaker 2: I always tell people today, these kids today, I feel
Speaker 2: like they treat life like a book report. Now they
Speaker 2: be like, yo, go do the book report at the
Speaker 2: grib and as a kid, you cheated. You're like, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna read a little bit in the middle, and I'm
Speaker 2: gonna read that and I'm gonna write what happened, skip
Speaker 2: the whole beginning. So that's why I say these kids
Speaker 2: today don't look at the beginning chapters of niggas lists
Speaker 2: want to see everything he said.
Speaker 3: And it was everything he said. It has been facts.
Speaker 3: You know, I get that question all the time, and
Speaker 3: you know I'm not saying it because you're here. I
Speaker 3: said all the time, he's the best. No, I said
Speaker 3: all the time too, people trying to argue me down
Speaker 3: and again these other great great other It's just like
Speaker 3: he's like when you talk basket Jordan, I'm like this,
Speaker 3: no one better than Jordan.
Speaker 1: Yah.
Speaker 3: We didn't see it, I said, But there's other great players.
Speaker 3: You get fool to say Lebron ain't not great and
Speaker 3: like one of one as well. Yes he's won two,
Speaker 3: Like you know, Kobe has to take a back seat.
Speaker 1: That's right. He and he understood it.
Speaker 2: And Kobe is an God bless Kobe family, God bless him,
Speaker 2: Kobe monster man. Like listen, I'm a New Yorker. I
Speaker 2: didn't like the Lakers. He used to kill every team.
Speaker 1: I brought him. The Rutkoki played Ruki. You can never
Speaker 1: can never doubt that that.
Speaker 3: That That's what made me respect. When I seen Kobe
Speaker 3: in Harlem, oh ship, and I'm telling you he was
Speaker 3: and he did. He gave you street ball.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I was a basketball fan, so I was
Speaker 2: hating from a basketball fan.
Speaker 1: Hold on, and he did it after he had five rings. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this ain't like rookie five ring. Now this is five rings. Kobe, man, that's.
Speaker 2: God bless one of the greatest players I ever witnessed playing.
Speaker 2: Got to shake his hand and watch them bust all
Speaker 2: my favorite players ass and was heartbreaking. One of my
Speaker 2: regrets in life is I didn't you know, I never
Speaker 2: took pictures all the time.
Speaker 1: That wasn't it. Yeah, we wasn't. We didn't grow up
Speaker 1: with that.
Speaker 3: I know picture as much as I was around him
Speaker 3: and with him and in La. You know when he scored,
Speaker 3: when he would drop what are you dropping? In New Garden?
Speaker 3: He gros sixty sixty sixty four six Washington is a
Speaker 3: video you're gonna see. The first person he run to
Speaker 3: is me. He didn't talk to you the whole fucking game.
Speaker 3: I'm right there on the floor, I'm sitting next to
Speaker 3: James Thing and I'm calling him at halftime and everything
Speaker 3: in the beginning.
Speaker 1: He wouldn't even look at me. As soon as it's over,
Speaker 1: he read.
Speaker 3: I did it.
Speaker 1: He was that focused.
Speaker 2: He used to bust ass in the guarden every time
Speaker 2: he came. He drove fifty I'm just saying, you know,
Speaker 2: he's I never took pictures with that man.
Speaker 3: I got pictures that I took for him and others,
Speaker 3: and nothing with me because I wasn't thinking it wasn't
Speaker 3: gonna be here like that.
Speaker 1: We never thinking like that, I know.
Speaker 3: But that's something for people to understand out there, to understand,
Speaker 3: to make sure they get.
Speaker 2: And a lot of the respect I feel like they
Speaker 2: need to appreciate. Life is short, man. You don't know, really,
Speaker 2: you really don't know. I just lost my brother fifty four.
Speaker 2: How do you figure that out? You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: And that that was way unexpected, bro, Like you know,
Speaker 2: I'm just then the biggest deal of his career.
Speaker 3: Like we got so many things we was plotting on
Speaker 3: and planning on, and yeah, it's like I curse him
Speaker 3: out now.
Speaker 1: Like when I wake up, I'm like, nigga, you left
Speaker 1: me here for this, for myself for the fuck nigga.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, like how you leave this
Speaker 3: ship like that and that, and because I really believe
Speaker 3: it could have been it could have been different.
Speaker 2: But definitely man all this ship. Man like we we are,
Speaker 2: I own demands, you feel me. I believe that like
Speaker 2: what we what we do to our bodies. If we
Speaker 2: don't take care of our self, we don't go get
Speaker 2: the proper. It's like it's like a car. I feel like, right,
Speaker 2: if you just drive around, drive around, never take your
Speaker 2: car waiting for it to break that she's gonna cak
Speaker 2: outs and break down.
Speaker 1: And it's might be in the highway somewhere. So literally
Speaker 1: the desert.
Speaker 2: If you if you could take your car to get serviced,
Speaker 2: you got to be able to take the body to
Speaker 2: get sold to you.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. The mind too, like you
Speaker 1: know everything else, I try to eat healthier.
Speaker 3: I fast a lot, and yeah, you know fast and
Speaker 3: the health factors that it comes with with the body,
Speaker 3: and yes, we gotta as you get older, you know,
Speaker 3: your body don't break down that food it always used
Speaker 3: to eating late studios and you don't heal.
Speaker 1: It's quick to come.
Speaker 2: So it's like that that's the one thing that I say,
Speaker 2: I always tell people getting no suck, getting no sucks,
Speaker 2: but not getting no sucks.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So yeah, when niggas says, ah, you older, that's the gold.
Speaker 1: That's right. That's right, that's what we have, that's what
Speaker 1: we want to do. That's right, man. But don't want
Speaker 1: to know what the other side of that is. And
Speaker 1: I feel like.
Speaker 2: These kids just got to take appreciate it. Just appreciate life, man,
Speaker 2: because it's not it's not forever. We're only here for
Speaker 2: a short period of time.
Speaker 1: We got to live it. To them.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna shout someone out that's doing something because when
Speaker 3: you talk that young, the young people, there's a young
Speaker 3: artist right now NBA young boy, Oh my god, and
Speaker 3: congratulations for doing all the things you're doing on touring.
Speaker 3: They never thought that type of rat would go out
Speaker 3: and peacefully do tours. Keep make sure keep pushing it, man,
Speaker 3: because again, I'm a fan. You know, I'm a fan
Speaker 3: of Dirk. I know y'all have the but I'm a
Speaker 3: fan of the music for both of them, that's right.
Speaker 3: And I'm the end of the day, I'm a fan
Speaker 3: of hip hop.
Speaker 1: Hip hop. These kids pushing it forward.
Speaker 3: And it's their turn, yes, man, it's their turn back
Speaker 3: and watch them and change the gas gug like it's
Speaker 3: to help them. Is to tell you what to look
Speaker 3: out for, what to do like this is why it's
Speaker 3: like that, and hopefully they heat all word. That's that's
Speaker 3: all we could do is give a little bit of game.
Speaker 3: It's a it's a lot of ignorance in the game though.
Speaker 2: You got a few people out here who want to
Speaker 2: push the violent narrative and all.
Speaker 1: The other ship.
Speaker 3: I don't see no one doing ship.
Speaker 1: But it's like niggas just talking. You smack niggas. You
Speaker 1: know they ain't doing nothing of who'd you touch? Show me?
Speaker 3: You show me something? Someone said, Yeah he fucked me up.
Speaker 1: Yo, it's not don't hear it. I don't see it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that didn't happen in hip hop no more. We don't
Speaker 1: need it. We don't need but we don't need no violence.
Speaker 1: Don't talk is to get money.
Speaker 3: Said that to you said you couldn't talk if you
Speaker 3: wasn't you know, if it wasn't you, you can't say it.
Speaker 1: That's right. If it was one of his That's where
Speaker 1: I'm from.
Speaker 2: Everything you need to know about the words, he couldn't
Speaker 2: say it that's that's where I'm his words. Bro, he
Speaker 2: gave you the game, just listen hundred percent. But then yo,
Speaker 2: y'all gave us job rule. Y'all gave us a shanty then,
Speaker 2: y'all rebirth job j Low like Bro, y'all, y'all push.
Speaker 1: The envelope to y'all. Rebirth, rebirth fat Joe. Joe, y'all
Speaker 1: gave him one two words.
Speaker 3: He'll admit it. He says it all the time. But
Speaker 3: I feel like a lot of change his whole trajectory.
Speaker 3: Shout out Joe and Jada, man ya they doing is
Speaker 3: amazing over there. Y'all changed the trajectory I feel like
Speaker 3: of music and murder. Inc don't get the credit of
Speaker 3: that because before y'all, it wasn't like Ye Puff did
Speaker 3: the you know, the R and B.
Speaker 2: And rapped together, but it wasn't done. It's one like
Speaker 2: it was total featuring big or feature in mas feature
Speaker 2: in one twelve.
Speaker 3: You know, they never they never gave John his credit
Speaker 3: to pioneering a game that every First of all, I
Speaker 3: don't even I don't even think all this good deals.
Speaker 1: Now if you don't rap and sing, think about that.
Speaker 2: You gotta have some of that melodic, flowing straight up
Speaker 2: like and I remember when he first was when in
Speaker 2: y'all pioneer like coming out with that, and niggas used
Speaker 2: to be.
Speaker 3: Looking like, say something because I'm gonna give you the
Speaker 3: IRV gotty, I'm gonna speak like that. He's with me.
Speaker 3: That part what you just said, you don't hear it
Speaker 3: no more is the opportunity for the exact polar opposite
Speaker 3: because that means they want that. There's a whole group
Speaker 3: of people that says, we heard all of that already.
Speaker 3: You gotta be creative and fresh. You know that was
Speaker 3: the DMX like Puffy was killing it, killing it, but
Speaker 3: we can't outshine Puffy. He's a shiny nigga, that's right,
Speaker 3: shout out ho your head boy, but you can't outshine him.
Speaker 1: It was like I got X.
Speaker 3: Do that. That's right, And that's the polar opposite effect.
Speaker 3: So you gotta realize that is still true to this
Speaker 3: day in business and everything. When you see something saturated,
Speaker 3: which one way the flip the polar eye city is
Speaker 3: a huge open potential if you know how to finesse it.
Speaker 1: Yes, and then y'all did it with Ashanti Bro, Like
Speaker 1: think about it. You didn't really hear that many.
Speaker 2: And it was remixes to R and B records where
Speaker 2: DJs would throw the rap you know.
Speaker 3: Okay, so that's Earth DJ Earth. See if you go
Speaker 3: back to Earth, you go back to DJ Earth. There
Speaker 3: used to be lines around the block waiting for his mixtape.
Speaker 3: That's crazy, nobullshit, every drug dealer all in Queens. Everyone
Speaker 3: was coming to get DJ Erth Volume one, dj Erth Volume.
Speaker 1: Two, and I told her never sell it. You know
Speaker 1: that niggas greedy, and.
Speaker 3: I said, never sell those tapes. Let's keep the mask.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I might have one tape left out of like one
Speaker 3: hundred and some Djrth Volume one hundred and.
Speaker 1: Twenty or something, and that's crazy.
Speaker 2: Anybody got some DJ Earth tapes, man, bring them to
Speaker 2: the table on the air m please.
Speaker 3: But he was what he did in those tapes. He
Speaker 3: was blending again hip hop beats with R and B acapellas.
Speaker 3: That's why I said, that's the only way you heard
Speaker 3: him on the ron G tapes, you know what I.
Speaker 1: Mean, the.
Speaker 3: Pioneers, and he brought it to real music and he
Speaker 3: was a battle DJ. So I would take him battle.
Speaker 3: And that's how we actually got blessed Carl Clark Kent.
Speaker 1: That's how we met up. Clark Clark Union Square. Earth
Speaker 1: went up there to battle. Brooklyn's in the house had effect.
Speaker 3: I thought we was gonna go crazy, and then we
Speaker 3: got into a little bit of stuff for nothing.
Speaker 1: Crazy, but you know this is real.
Speaker 3: I still got the flyers because we had our queens,
Speaker 3: Rapper Romeo and Golf, Other Noise, Roselle Deep he was
Speaker 3: part of Earth's cruise, Romeo, Rosselle and Earth and we
Speaker 3: went and battle and they all won and we it's
Speaker 3: just a few of the queens and then Brooklyn. It
Speaker 3: was a Brooklyn house and you Square, come on, you
Speaker 3: know what's right, yo ship y'all brought DJ Clark Kent
Speaker 3: is why I will tell you we probably didn't get
Speaker 3: into more.
Speaker 1: He respected her that day because Earth beat him Earth away.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's a fact. This is a fact.
Speaker 3: And he respected them and basically kept the wolves quiet.
Speaker 3: You know, we ready, but we out numbered out. It
Speaker 3: was in the difference we out man like fucking Ikonnelly
Speaker 3: came through with y'all too, Yeah through, Like look.
Speaker 2: At Nelly, I wanted that records man. Now got the
Speaker 2: biggest strip club fucking insane.
Speaker 1: What it takes.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's creativity though, That's what you gotta understand. I
Speaker 3: learned so much ship from just being a fly on
Speaker 3: the wall, watching, listening some of the conversations that I heard.
Speaker 3: You know, I was right there sitting in the background
Speaker 3: right behind Earth. He's doing his talking, But the people
Speaker 3: he's talking to from Leo, even with Jay J used
Speaker 3: to be waiting in my office to talk to them.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Just to like different moves
Speaker 3: he's gonna make from a musical standpoints sort of respect.
Speaker 3: You know, he's always did and respected his ear and
Speaker 3: his vision. That's right and boom, got it gone.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Fucking leading to that. Man, you being the observer and
Speaker 2: listening and watching that leads to you.
Speaker 1: Doing the movies. Man, tell me about that. You said
Speaker 1: you got a movie out now called Balling, Right. Yes,
Speaker 1: Lane Stevenson is my lead Lance, the homie he got
Speaker 1: versus and he got balled.
Speaker 3: I do the whole soundtrack for the movie with no
Speaker 3: way shout out Ricky oh yo.
Speaker 1: Let's say she y'all got a joint. That joint.
Speaker 3: I think Earth produced the first joint yeah, that's on
Speaker 3: one of my playlists. Bro, come on, man, listen you
Speaker 3: heard that, Ricky.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, we gotta get up there. That's a fact.
Speaker 1: Like we I remember I just after this. I just
Speaker 1: was away with Joe for his birthday. I'm playing.
Speaker 2: He like, yo, play one of your playlists. I'm in
Speaker 2: Rocket and the ship came on. He's like, let me
Speaker 2: find out. I'm like, you know, I fucked with the
Speaker 2: fans if it's dope.
Speaker 3: Ricky is a talent. Yeah, but you know that's a
Speaker 3: whole nother conversation. She does her crochete. She just got
Speaker 3: like stuff to bad Bunny like.
Speaker 1: Man, that's dope. Man got blest.
Speaker 3: Shout out Shaboozi reposted everything again. She's super talented. I
Speaker 3: gotta look at you, laced, I get you.
Speaker 1: Some shit man. Yeah for sure, let's do it.
Speaker 3: But you know we go in that zone man, and
Speaker 3: everything just flowed from the movie. My partner Rich Black
Speaker 3: and Andy and try to shout both for them. Rich
Speaker 3: wrote the movie. He was asking me to do it
Speaker 3: for years, over year and a half, almost two years.
Speaker 3: She's like, yo, I got this movie, and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm not ready yet.
Speaker 1: You know, I get to you, and then one day
Speaker 1: I just reached out. I was like, Yo, what's up.
Speaker 1: Let me see this movie. Let's go.
Speaker 3: I think I got everything set up, dope man, and
Speaker 3: he was like, let's shoot it. So we went out
Speaker 3: shot in Miami seventeen days. Shouted it would have been
Speaker 3: even faster. Shout out ever my director first time.
Speaker 1: You know ever? Seventeen days. Damn, that's quick.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it could be. I'm telling you. The only way
Speaker 3: to do these types of films is fast.
Speaker 1: You gotta turn them over. Yeah, and right now I'm
Speaker 1: dealing with distribution.
Speaker 3: I'm working on distribution because without the proper distribution channels,
Speaker 3: it's very hard to get your money.
Speaker 1: See two B. I know people that made means off too.
Speaker 3: Yes, that was early to be. Once Fox are quieted,
Speaker 3: the game changed. It's still the best place for black content.
Speaker 1: That's right for any up and coming.
Speaker 3: They got over one hundred and ten million on that
Speaker 3: fucking channel that watched black film. But the reality is
Speaker 3: they're not giving the deals out to come say, and
Speaker 3: their CPM is super low.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you got the product, that's worth it,
Speaker 2: because you can't just give it's too many.
Speaker 1: We was not going for five weeks.
Speaker 2: I feel like in all perspectives of entertainment is oversaturated.
Speaker 1: So how do you weed out who's real again you
Speaker 1: speaking my language?
Speaker 2: Who's faking it? Because you can't just give everybody the
Speaker 2: money and hope. And so that's why these when when.
Speaker 3: You talk of music, it's called the music business. Yes,
Speaker 3: music is half businesses have you gotta make it, marry
Speaker 3: each other, and then that's when you have such.
Speaker 2: I feel like because even in this space right like
Speaker 2: people look at it like, yo, you get the deal,
Speaker 2: nor reding them you did the deal? I heard you
Speaker 2: got doe to yo, y'all cashing out, and it's like, yo, bro, No,
Speaker 2: you got to put in the work. The numbers have
Speaker 2: to speak, you need you need a track record to
Speaker 2: go sell so people can buy into. They're not just
Speaker 2: gonna buy into because you you opened up the stores,
Speaker 2: Like yo, what if you.
Speaker 1: Fall off next week?
Speaker 3: Probably in a lot of similar type of conversations because
Speaker 3: they think because your history, you just.
Speaker 1: Yep, you're good. No, it's like, yo, it's still a process.
Speaker 1: We're still working. We gotta earn it.
Speaker 3: Yes, like every day is here you just say this
Speaker 3: is what your third podcast today. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: You're working, bro. At the end of the day, the work.
Speaker 3: You cannot short the work man, and the process is
Speaker 3: you can't cheat the process. I said, if you want
Speaker 3: money overnight, the only thing I know is a lot
Speaker 3: on nigga good that's right, good luck.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to hit lot on them good
Speaker 1: luck word up. Neither do I. So I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: put in my work.
Speaker 3: And consistency is part of what you have to be
Speaker 3: because of the saturation, that's right. So I tell all
Speaker 3: my independent artists, you know I have. I got tens
Speaker 3: of thousand of independent artists on my platform, Adventure Music.
Speaker 3: But I tell you we're going to talk about the
Speaker 3: shot out Adventures. I'm building some new ship for it.
Speaker 3: I really don't want to expose it, but I'm just
Speaker 3: letting you know it's coming. But the consistency, I look
Speaker 3: at music, let's use me and you could use this podcast.
Speaker 3: Podcast is like one of the most emerging booming industries. Yes,
Speaker 3: once it started and everybody jumped in and everyone's doing it,
Speaker 3: and everyone's trying to get their podcasts and they streaming
Speaker 3: numbers and everything.
Speaker 1: All good.
Speaker 3: We accept all COMPETI issue all the smoke, that's right,
Speaker 3: all the smoke you heard me stacks.
Speaker 1: Shut.
Speaker 3: Consistency is the difference you factor in my opinion, because.
Speaker 1: If you don't feed.
Speaker 3: Them, let's let's let's let's use I like to always
Speaker 3: like dumb everything down so anyone understands, simplify, let's use
Speaker 3: this podcast show as food. You're feeding people with information
Speaker 3: from me and yourself and whoever your guests are. And
Speaker 3: that's why they're gonna tune in. It's entertaining, that's fool.
Speaker 3: If you don't feed them, they're gonna go eat somewhere else.
Speaker 1: That's simple. Just they're gonna find the next best item
Speaker 1: on the man.
Speaker 3: And I said, the only ones they get a chance
Speaker 3: to basically fast you right, make you fast for that
Speaker 3: content is the ones that's already at the time, not
Speaker 3: the new up and coming guy. Look at the guy
Speaker 3: that was at the top, and look at their track record,
Speaker 3: and you're gonna see how much work they put in
Speaker 3: to get there. And don't don't discount that. Understand that
Speaker 3: there's no cheat code, there's no you can't treat the game.
Speaker 3: You can only play the game. You can never treat
Speaker 3: the game. You can only play the game. Never had
Speaker 3: a problem with rolling my sleeves up and getting the
Speaker 3: work that bro it don't matter what and.
Speaker 2: Me, I'm the type of person I never had a
Speaker 2: problem with even if the W ain't looking promising for me,
Speaker 2: but it's looking promising for you. We're gonna push you
Speaker 2: to get you the W because when you win, gonna
Speaker 2: make it easier for me to win, because now I
Speaker 2: can pick off to us fighting.
Speaker 3: We all, we got all, we got, we all, we
Speaker 3: got God every time, you know we we mentioned. I
Speaker 3: just shot a movie. We was talking the movies.
Speaker 1: You're back.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna just go back to that for a second,
Speaker 3: because we just shot a Spanish fly movie. I'm not Latino.
Speaker 3: My mother's black. My father was Trinidad in Filipino. That's
Speaker 3: my lineage.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, I got a partner.
Speaker 3: Don de Niro and Oscar you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: both gia times and they're very influenced you in the
Speaker 3: Latino community. Don was a big artist at one point,
Speaker 3: independent artists. First, he was the first rapper in really
Speaker 3: in Spanish music back then. Desert calls him, des calls
Speaker 3: him was calling him the Latin jay Z. Go ahead
Speaker 3: and check it out. You add, I'm telling you no
Speaker 3: bullshit and one knows him everyone, But that was back then.
Speaker 3: Then he evolved and everything. But then my Latin divisions
Speaker 3: because the growth of the Latin communities, we.
Speaker 1: Can't say, go get them.
Speaker 3: Go get a globe and look at all the Latin
Speaker 3: American countries and then you start understanding why the growth
Speaker 3: is like that, and then you put into the fact
Speaker 3: that they're not being serviced. So I was when I
Speaker 3: started adventures. I started a division ten years ago. This
Speaker 3: is way before any of this started. I was in
Speaker 3: front of this movement. So and I have it now
Speaker 3: in film. So we did a movie called Spanish Flys
Speaker 3: called It's all Latino like actors, comedians, big names. Yeah right,
Speaker 3: and they all did it for nothing. See that's what
Speaker 3: because they know they all they got.
Speaker 1: That's what.
Speaker 3: The whole reason I'm talking about that is because I
Speaker 3: watched the Latin community come in all the best directing people,
Speaker 3: that's the production people telling Denio whatever you want, I'm here.
Speaker 1: That's right. I want to be part of this. If
Speaker 1: it wasn't about money, everybody, but it wasn't about money.
Speaker 1: That's about.
Speaker 3: They just wanted to help and be part of it.
Speaker 3: And that's what we have to get as a community's people.
Speaker 1: Right because if he win, we all win. Yes, it's
Speaker 1: the village. Oh man, we all win. That's it. But
Speaker 1: you know that's another dope movie.
Speaker 3: We just finished and we shot that eight days eight days.
Speaker 1: Man, I gotta come. I gotta pop out on one
Speaker 1: of these.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know we're gonna gonna get last acting. I
Speaker 3: get my skills shop and.
Speaker 1: It's no problem.
Speaker 3: I show you how to do it, like I really
Speaker 3: have a system that I developed for like influencers. You're
Speaker 3: an influencer. I'm not just taking John Dues nothing. Because
Speaker 3: today I gotta get an audience to watch my film.
Speaker 1: That's a fact. If you're in the film, you'll be here. Yo.
Speaker 1: Make sure you watch my film. That's right.
Speaker 3: What's needed if you're doing it independent.
Speaker 2: Even if you just text me and tell me the
Speaker 2: film is out, yo, listen, make sure y'all go check
Speaker 2: out Balling where they can find it at to be.
Speaker 3: Right now and a ton of other places.
Speaker 1: Amazon, It's gonna be all over, that's right.
Speaker 2: Spanish flyers right now on tub And I'm not even
Speaker 2: in the movie. But this is my motherfucking brother. So
Speaker 2: I'm gonna promote you. So if the movie I'm in,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you right now, you might get a
Speaker 2: flyer on the windshield of your car.
Speaker 1: So you see this fly back bleak in the movie. Baby,
Speaker 1: Yeah no, but.
Speaker 3: They I'm telling you, that's why I picked the cast
Speaker 3: of How I Did It. You gotta have, you can't get.
Speaker 3: I looked at movies in a different perspective again, and
Speaker 3: I looked at like I love let's say, Morris Chess
Speaker 3: now takes. These are incredible acts, blackhead of me. I
Speaker 3: could never All Right, here's the question, how many people
Speaker 3: if I had them in the movie, how much do
Speaker 3: I have to pay them? And then how many people
Speaker 3: they get to go watch it? See that all comes
Speaker 3: with a tag. When they established like they are, they're
Speaker 3: not knocking them.
Speaker 1: It's just the.
Speaker 3: Business they're in it now they almost priced themselves out. Yes,
Speaker 3: you understand, they're really great actors.
Speaker 1: Both of them.
Speaker 3: I fuck with both of them hard, you know, posts
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, they're both great actors.
Speaker 3: But they'll want more money than I could afford at
Speaker 3: this level. And then they're not gonna work as hard
Speaker 3: because then they're gonna want even more money from the
Speaker 3: marketing side. But if I go get these influencers that
Speaker 3: want a chance to be actors or these following, they're
Speaker 3: gonna push the movie for me. They're gonna help market
Speaker 3: the movie, and they're gonna give people that's curious another
Speaker 3: part of you know this. Me and like we had
Speaker 3: a lot of different philosophies, and one of them was
Speaker 3: curiosity killed the cat. So a new artist with slayer
Speaker 3: old artists. Right, I brought a new artist in the game.
Speaker 3: You're curious to see or hear his story. So that
Speaker 3: gave us an upside on that. So that's how I
Speaker 3: look at the same thing, that curiosity I wanted. That
Speaker 3: curiosity of Damn Lance is in the movie.
Speaker 1: He could act. Yeah, wait a minute, he got a
Speaker 1: whole soundtrack, he could wrap. He's really the Black Drake, Yo.
Speaker 3: He's spending drake. Though I ain't heard enough new promise you.
Speaker 3: I just can't stand. I'm not understandings. When I can't stand,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you why I say what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He could make R and B hooks.
Speaker 3: That's why I say I told you he's come in
Speaker 3: the studio. Why he just saying job rule, Come on,
Speaker 3: he job man. All these niggas is John straight up man,
Speaker 3: you could singing rap man, you jock. Because it was
Speaker 3: a time I was jealous of this nigga. You're hitting
Speaker 3: me in the studio. Think about it.
Speaker 2: When gott He produced my joint Infatuated. I'm sitting there,
Speaker 2: he like, yo, bleak, we need a hook. I'm like,
Speaker 2: all right, call your man.
Speaker 3: Court John, nigga, the fuck I don't sing hook masks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jack came through, wrote the Infatuated hook in five seconds.
Speaker 2: We got shout out the homie boxy BJ. Yeah it
Speaker 2: was BJ artists at the time, sung the hook and
Speaker 2: we got it done. But that's what I'm saying, man
Speaker 2: like all that. He was the first I saw do
Speaker 2: it many straight up. Listen, you could say bone Thugs
Speaker 2: was part of it, but they different. Yeah, they were
Speaker 2: more harmony. They were more harmonizing and singer.
Speaker 1: Take it to a different place. Mass a solo act
Speaker 1: doing both.
Speaker 3: Bro. I used to tell that nigga, who fuck you
Speaker 3: think you is? Usher and Jay together, Come on, man,
Speaker 3: you cheat eat and dog can't do that. Then you
Speaker 3: got muscles.
Speaker 1: Come on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we used to make jokes, push ups. The next year,
Speaker 3: everything's popping out.
Speaker 2: Like if Drake was these like Joe taking his shirt off,
Speaker 2: it'll be unfair, be crazy, it be unfair.
Speaker 1: But really Lance could do that. Though I heard one
Speaker 1: song on the Joint.
Speaker 3: Bawling soundtrack it I promise you're gonna be able to
Speaker 3: hit the play and listen to every joint like definitely,
Speaker 3: because when I did this thing, I was only thinking
Speaker 3: I gonna make a record or two just to put
Speaker 3: in the movie, not the whole soundtrack.
Speaker 1: So we're going to street, go to Circle House in Miami.
Speaker 1: Spot never.
Speaker 3: Lance never been in a big studio. He's like, man,
Speaker 3: I'm always making my wraps in the kitchen or something,
Speaker 3: so he never. Then I bring in my producer, shout
Speaker 3: out Nary, Narry Boy or Beast Miami comes in.
Speaker 1: He chefed whatever you want up and the idea Circle
Speaker 1: House down there ruined my life.
Speaker 3: But God, so he get all of this and he's
Speaker 3: seeing all of the ship. I'm bringing y d another
Speaker 3: dope nigga out there, you know what I'm saying, And
Speaker 3: we just started making records.
Speaker 1: That's dope. But he kept wrapper I'm gonna keep it
Speaker 1: the buck.
Speaker 3: He's the reason because he kept pushing me, come on
Speaker 3: to give more studio, more to you, because this is
Speaker 3: when ever went to go do something with Mary J. Blige,
Speaker 3: my director. So I had a little downtown were going
Speaker 3: right there, boom boom boom. Less than a week, we
Speaker 3: had like eighteen joints.
Speaker 1: That's dope. Now he was working, that's dope. He was working.
Speaker 1: My niece. My niece, she's there pinning with him. They
Speaker 1: vibing together. They got hit records on that soundcheck. I
Speaker 1: believe it. I'm gonna go check it out. You said
Speaker 1: Drake is black dough, but he is the black girl Drake.
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. That's what I mean.
Speaker 3: Black drizzy, shut out drizzy too.
Speaker 1: Man. You know what I'm saying. Your word up right.
Speaker 1: It's smoky out here. It's crazy. It's smoky for niggas.
Speaker 2: I gotta but you would be able to see listen,
Speaker 2: you with a perfect segue for the things that he's
Speaker 2: dealing with, you know what I mean, the public, the media.
Speaker 2: What advice would you give him because y'all been through it.
Speaker 3: You know he got Jay Prince behind him too, So
Speaker 3: shout out. The Prince fe his birthday just passed out.
Speaker 3: I missed you, bro, I can catch you out. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna go to his island. You know he owns a
Speaker 3: couple of islands. No way, I ain't know that in belief,
Speaker 3: he owns two islands.
Speaker 1: In belief, I ain't know that. That's dope, man, I
Speaker 1: ain't dope. That's fire superfied is yes, dope.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go out there and fuck with him. I
Speaker 3: just told him, I said. I asked him one question.
Speaker 3: I said, what's the law of these islands? Is it
Speaker 3: prince law? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Prince, I said, okay, I know how to come now,
Speaker 1: bring in my strap facts. But you know all of
Speaker 1: these things. But you're gonna hear his his range.
Speaker 3: You know, when you're an artist, probably most artists is
Speaker 3: insecure when it's time to release music because they stay safe.
Speaker 3: They stay in their box. And the one thing I
Speaker 3: kept telling is, don't be afraid.
Speaker 1: If you hear it, do it. We're in the studio.
Speaker 3: You don't like it, we don't play for nobody. That's
Speaker 3: the place you supposed to try everything, your free space.
Speaker 3: That's when you might find something to change the game.
Speaker 1: That you ain't even know. You didn't even know you had.
Speaker 1: That's a fact, yo.
Speaker 2: One thing I always say, man, gott He gave me
Speaker 2: the best advice man when it come to making records.
Speaker 2: I think to this day I apply it and this
Speaker 2: is why I make records. I could go in the
Speaker 2: studio and knock out two three records because Gotty used
Speaker 2: to always say, why you spending so much time on
Speaker 2: the verse. You ain't gonna say nothing that Biggie Nae
Speaker 2: j Upac, They ain't say already. You just gonna try
Speaker 2: to find a new way to spend it, Nigga. They
Speaker 2: only gonna remember the hook.
Speaker 1: That's right. So long as the hook is hot, just
Speaker 1: stay on top and get it done. On to the
Speaker 1: next record.
Speaker 3: When the verses damn there was written, they write theyself,
Speaker 3: it's crazy.
Speaker 1: It's crazy.
Speaker 2: Once you have the chorus the verses down there right, theyself,
Speaker 2: bro like, it's like you don't even think.
Speaker 3: My favorite, one of my favorite, uh irv got He
Speaker 3: producing one of them is like produce as a producers.
Speaker 3: When we did Halla, Holler and we again Jay, we
Speaker 3: gave Jay to cant I get it so we didn't
Speaker 3: have to for the movie. The soundtrack and everything, so
Speaker 3: we didn't have a first single from each other. I
Speaker 3: found a beat one of my producers, I call IRV.
Speaker 1: Yo, I got it. Yeah yeah, So he's a come
Speaker 1: to the studio.
Speaker 3: We had electric Lady. They had an Electric Lady. I
Speaker 3: go in there and he gives y'all to puts the
Speaker 3: beat up.
Speaker 1: He's like, this is it. This is hard yo. He goes.
Speaker 3: Irv's like, that's like because he didn't hear it. I
Speaker 3: just told my got it and get yo. That's hard yo.
Speaker 3: Come on, John, he said, on this record, don't start
Speaker 3: with the verses the hook. Write the hook, and John
Speaker 3: was like okay, went and wrote hook wasn't it.
Speaker 1: It was like, that's not it.
Speaker 3: Now again, these artists today got to be produced and
Speaker 3: accept the criticism of the opinion of that producer to
Speaker 3: help them make the best record possible. Right. He came
Speaker 3: out with another hook, that's not it, And I give
Speaker 3: Joe all the credit because it was no ego that
Speaker 3: no it ain't it. Go He came out and it's like,
Speaker 3: I got it. I'm gonna double up this. He didn't
Speaker 3: have it, but he understood the concept. He wrote was
Speaker 3: like go write it. He wrote it versus done like this.
Speaker 3: It was like the record was made already, yo. And
Speaker 3: that's three verses, sixteen balls these verse like that's back
Speaker 3: then when you had to do three verses.
Speaker 1: Those verses was written like this. Now niggas is writing
Speaker 1: one verse a minute eighteen seconds of the song. I
Speaker 1: started cheating with.
Speaker 3: There's one of my homies. I'm gonna give him a
Speaker 3: plug right now. He's from Compton. You know what I'm saying, terminated?
Speaker 1: What up?
Speaker 3: And you know I told him I want to make
Speaker 3: an album with him because he has a voice and
Speaker 3: he tells a story that you're gonna believe every word
Speaker 3: he says. It's a different it's a different feeling from everything.
Speaker 3: But he don't make records. He makes a verse in
Speaker 3: a hood, not even really hard. He gives you a
Speaker 3: little something and in that verse out and he's done
Speaker 3: because he's really against and he's only doing it.
Speaker 2: That's fun, Yo, That's how the boss boss Man d
Speaker 2: Loo songs is. You be like this, yo, shiit hard,
Speaker 2: this ship fires and it shit go off like what
Speaker 2: the fuck? Like the wait I got? Did I get
Speaker 2: the I gotta download the real version? Like I shouldn't
Speaker 2: have been in twenty seconds. Let me play this shiit
Speaker 2: seventeen times in the road.
Speaker 1: That don't help change the game. You gotta everyone. He
Speaker 1: said that. He's like, Yo, think about it.
Speaker 2: When you listen to the radio, boss Man Di Loo said,
Speaker 2: when you listen to the radio and they on the
Speaker 2: mixed show the d you only play about a good
Speaker 2: forty seconds of the record anyway.
Speaker 1: So if it's hot, you're gonna bring that shit back.
Speaker 1: That's it, Which is right?
Speaker 3: And when he said that, I was like, And then
Speaker 3: I said, the way we do videos, I got a
Speaker 3: different concept.
Speaker 1: I don't give everybody everything because term might do it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's a different way to shoot the video.
Speaker 1: Fat you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Because he's talking real shit. It's almost against cinematic shit. Yeah,
Speaker 3: come out on some cinematic shit, bro, It'll be just
Speaker 3: a different looking field. When I look at all these videos,
Speaker 3: they just trying to get it done because they lower
Speaker 3: the budgets now and everyone's trying to do it for
Speaker 3: cheap and shasible, And that's why the game is suffering
Speaker 3: in my opinion, you know, because.
Speaker 2: Everybody cutting budgets, but it's they don't got the money.
Speaker 2: No more, man, the money ain't coming in like it
Speaker 2: was when we had it in that early two thousands.
Speaker 1: Bro that that that digital. I think these labels understand
Speaker 1: how to get that digital money. You know, they get
Speaker 1: more money.
Speaker 3: From like sponsors and brands, so it kind of offset
Speaker 3: some of the mechanical sale that we had with the
Speaker 3: expense is way less. If you, I don't want to
Speaker 3: say it's not doing good that the labels are still around. No, No,
Speaker 3: the music for a reason. These kids, because they make
Speaker 3: the three sixty's always there to merging and.
Speaker 1: It's not off the records. So I got you. No,
Speaker 1: it's not off the sale.
Speaker 3: But there's again, I know the stream is they're gonna
Speaker 3: have to do something like I'm doing with the TV,
Speaker 3: the movies and TVs where the distribution has to be different,
Speaker 3: you know, shout out.
Speaker 2: Rock Nation Distro. They just want somewhere you free to everybody.
Speaker 2: Eighty five fifteen split. They said they got a phenomenal
Speaker 2: like social media thing that you was telling me that matter.
Speaker 1: I'm about that. You said, it's no perfect segue. You
Speaker 1: can break it on now listening. I was early over
Speaker 1: there when it was equity and Christian.
Speaker 3: With shout out Christian, you know I'm gonna keep it.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna keep it a bucket og No. I was
Speaker 3: mad we didn't get it together because they they wanted
Speaker 3: to do something. They know I had adventure music, and
Speaker 3: they was like, let's figure something out. They was picking
Speaker 3: my brain on what's the problems. And me and O
Speaker 3: G had a meeting and he said it's really his sons.
Speaker 3: And you know, he says, he says, you got to
Speaker 3: talk to him. I said, well, he could ask me
Speaker 3: whatever questions and I answer to prove that I'm not playing.
Speaker 3: So we had that meeting and I answered every question
Speaker 3: and more and Christian was like yes to everything, and
Speaker 3: I looking at one like okay, let's figure this shit out.
Speaker 3: But we never figured it out. That's something that I
Speaker 3: don't I get mad at because the time in if
Speaker 3: we're white, we do it, yes, right, That's the part
Speaker 3: that I don't ever understand and ship is like, if
Speaker 3: we're white, we do it. I told Steve Stout that,
Speaker 3: you know, Irvin Stout was in the second grade together.
Speaker 1: Damn, I ain't know that we played. I used to play.
Speaker 3: Football with him in the cage. Come to the parks,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: Man, that's crazy. That's crazy man. Now niggas kicked his
Speaker 1: ship over the fence.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, be crazy shit.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, crazy ship.
Speaker 3: You know, at the end of the day, I said,
Speaker 3: because he was the very first one to come to
Speaker 3: me for Adventures.
Speaker 1: When I start Adventures, He's like, what are you doing
Speaker 1: over it? Before he starts his United Mass know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 3: We all family like, And I said, Steve, I'll shut
Speaker 3: this down to funk with you, because when I wrote
Speaker 3: my business plan, this is how real it is for Adventures.
Speaker 3: What do I need to be successful? After I wrote it,
Speaker 3: first thing, I put Steve style because I know what
Speaker 3: I need. I just don't want to give the game up.
Speaker 3: I know how to change this game and get it right.
Speaker 1: That's right. I just need someone to.
Speaker 3: Fuck with me because I can't walk in the doors.
Speaker 3: They don't fuck with me.
Speaker 1: They do. You just know the doors that I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: They're scared that the history you never leave your They
Speaker 3: never get once you say, because they want to know
Speaker 3: your background.
Speaker 1: You say it from that right away. See, people don't
Speaker 1: know that unless you live it. I live in it.
Speaker 1: I understand my problems.
Speaker 3: If I can't go to my family and friends once
Speaker 3: you stamp, shout and and try to again, it's one
Speaker 3: of my partners, he accepted, He understood. I don't look
Speaker 3: at it as a badge of shame. I said, this
Speaker 3: is a badger of honor. Most of those most of
Speaker 3: those white boys that have those executive jobs.
Speaker 1: Went through white collar crimes.
Speaker 3: And guess what they did, know they told and they
Speaker 3: still there and they still move like it's all good
Speaker 3: and it's no man.
Speaker 2: If anybody looking at crime, America has built a crime, Yeah,
Speaker 2: a country is built.
Speaker 1: Of course.
Speaker 3: If you don't know that you are you, you're in
Speaker 3: the wrong place and live in space. But that's my
Speaker 3: that's part of my plight that I got to walk
Speaker 3: to that man. But you know, Earth went through the watch.
Speaker 3: Earth went there, and I'm gonna give Jay a big
Speaker 3: shout out because he Earth started tails. Remember two.
Speaker 1: So here's a meeting me and working on that.
Speaker 3: Yeah. There we have a whole meeting and all of
Speaker 3: this ship about tales and and we get a meeting
Speaker 3: with Steven Hill who runs BT at the time, and
Speaker 3: Jay's with him, IRV and J and IRV is pitching
Speaker 3: to get a pilot, just a pilot, give me the
Speaker 3: money from BT to show you how powerful this TV
Speaker 3: show is and it's dope. So he pitched to Steve.
Speaker 3: Steve turned to J like, I'll never forget this shit
Speaker 3: like and I give credit in flowers where he's due.
Speaker 3: But if there's something foul, I say foul shit too,
Speaker 3: like the truth is the truth, and I'll never take
Speaker 3: it away, never take it away. Because Jay, being who
Speaker 3: he is with my brother, turns to Steve. Stephen Hill says,
Speaker 3: what would you do to J? Jay looked at him,
Speaker 3: and he looked at Irvan, and he looked at Steve
Speaker 3: again and said, I'll give him whatever he wants and
Speaker 3: get out his way.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 3: And didn't get a pilot deal. He got an eight
Speaker 3: show season because Jay said that I can never act
Speaker 3: like if he was here, he could never act like
Speaker 3: that didn't happen.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying now, whole.
Speaker 3: Dude, unbelieved, unbelievable behind the scenes that he don't even
Speaker 3: want to be credited.
Speaker 1: He don't even want you to even tell the world.
Speaker 1: He don't care like he do what you do want basketball.
Speaker 2: He's a great hearted, he's the kindest person I ever know, man,
Speaker 2: Like then gave me the biggest opportunity in my life.
Speaker 1: He's this is the gift that keeps on giving. That's
Speaker 1: why I always tell him, like, hey, how can I
Speaker 1: pay you back? Bro? Like how I don't put on
Speaker 1: my whole family? How you pay someone like him back?
Speaker 2: Like when that's it? And that's why he said on
Speaker 2: the right person, that's what he's saying. Yeah, all I
Speaker 2: want to do is see you when.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, like my last time I seen was
Speaker 3: an earth past. That's when I was with him.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: He wrote me after the funeral and saying, it was
Speaker 3: like amazing to watch me deal with everybody. You know,
Speaker 3: I greeted everybody, talk to everybody, and you know it
Speaker 3: in the worst times for me.
Speaker 1: Man, Hell yeah, I couldn't even imagine bro.
Speaker 3: You know, and you know him writing back and tell
Speaker 3: me and he was like, if you need anything, let
Speaker 3: me know and everything. Again, it's just a blessing to have.
Speaker 2: A big homie like that on your just to have
Speaker 2: somebody with that statue on your side, even behind you.
Speaker 2: And understand because a lot of people forget, like I say,
Speaker 2: they look at billionaire whole They don't understand he from.
Speaker 1: Mossy fucking projects. Man.
Speaker 2: They ate peanut butter and jelly man. Nigga made fake pizza,
Speaker 2: Nigga with the crab cheese and the tomato sauce on
Speaker 2: the Wonder Brad stop playing man. We regular hood niggas
Speaker 2: and Nigga never erase that. Man, no heart that niggas
Speaker 2: have from what we came through to where we're at.
Speaker 2: It would never change. Man, what you want to tell her?
Speaker 2: What's going on next? What's the next moves for my guy?
Speaker 1: Chris got on it again.
Speaker 3: The movies is incredible, but again the Basketball League to go.
Speaker 1: Back to that.
Speaker 3: Like I said, I may have raising my first season incredible.
Speaker 3: I got all them players and coaches and my street
Speaker 3: ball background, and I have a I have a real
Speaker 3: business there that when I get New York set, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna take it in multiple cities. Not teams.
Speaker 1: Everyone.
Speaker 3: Everyone thinks I'm gonna bring a team to Chicago. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna bring the league. It'll be the CPL of Chicago
Speaker 3: to be the CP of Miami Atlanta. Because what I'm
Speaker 3: servicing is all these players. You think of the NBA,
Speaker 3: there's only thirty two teams. There's only two rounds every year.
Speaker 3: Think of marsh madness, how many players don't get to
Speaker 3: the league fact.
Speaker 1: And then out of those.
Speaker 3: Sixty four, how many so old overseas? And then every say,
Speaker 3: oh you go overseas and play okay man overseas. It's
Speaker 3: two players that could be from America the rest are.
Speaker 1: I had a conversation with Vince Carter and Tracy McGrady.
Speaker 2: I went to shout out team that's fan for the
Speaker 2: dinner with them, not to over though, and they were saying, man,
Speaker 2: we missed the shooters in America once Curry leave, Like
Speaker 2: who he got? We don't have all the shooters is
Speaker 2: from overseas. Everybody here we just know how to dribble.
Speaker 2: And I was saying there, I'm like, damn, that's kind
Speaker 2: of crazy. I ain't ever look at it.
Speaker 1: Like, you know, shooting like Curry has.
Speaker 3: Think of how many shoots shots he has to take
Speaker 3: to get that good.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Will take that practice. Man, you
Speaker 1: gotta work. That's working when you're exhaust you gotta go
Speaker 1: get it. Man, you gotta work for it. It's not
Speaker 1: gonna be just given to you if he wins. Another ring.
Speaker 3: Where do you put him?
Speaker 2: Oh, he's up there, he's number two. It's number two.
Speaker 2: He went another ring, he number two. And you look
Speaker 2: at the team he's got. He's got no good team, right,
Speaker 2: I mean when you when you go.
Speaker 1: Back, you gotta Dreammard who only would work good with him?
Speaker 1: You got it. Let's go to Clay when he was there.
Speaker 3: Clay was tough. But we're playing with playing with a
Speaker 3: great player like Curry Laundry.
Speaker 1: Good dollar though, and what was my other man? Who player? Homie?
Speaker 1: Who is a good dollar? A star? Is your role player?
Speaker 1: Thank you? He was a role player in Philly. He
Speaker 1: was a star in Golden State. He was the MVP
Speaker 1: of the finals.
Speaker 3: I could argue that, but there's another party. Again, he
Speaker 3: didn't average more points, but and again average impact.
Speaker 1: The impact is because of Draymond, no score. But he
Speaker 1: was a staff.
Speaker 3: You know, my sister was just talking to me just
Speaker 3: now and she says, the pace is she said she
Speaker 3: never liked Halliburton. Hold on, why she's this is my sister,
Speaker 3: you know, And she said, I didn't like Halliburton. So
Speaker 3: I but man, what are they won in twelve or
Speaker 3: something like that? Okay, he's not playing. Okay, his impact. Now,
Speaker 3: those role players when when it's see when sports is
Speaker 3: in and you talk to players, you could ask on
Speaker 3: what I'm saying when it's when that when that star
Speaker 3: isn't on that court and now it's you, the game
Speaker 3: on the other side is geared to stop you. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: that's what just happened to all those role players. If
Speaker 3: they get to stop Igual Dollar, what is he gonna do?
Speaker 3: It's only because he was jumping through the roof, dunking
Speaker 3: or niggas heads and.
Speaker 1: We cannot erase who he was. No, you're not gonna
Speaker 1: do that. Listen to me. I'm not. I'm saying he's
Speaker 1: a role player. He never was a start.
Speaker 3: He was a star only because Curry takes all that
Speaker 3: attention and then he's good enough. He's that good that
Speaker 3: if it's just him and that one player he buzzing
Speaker 3: that Nigga asked, See, that's the.
Speaker 1: Difference of a star. It's the difference of a star.
Speaker 3: Bro It's like you could go through the lage James,
Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler is older now, but he was at one
Speaker 3: point questions.
Speaker 1: At one point, I said.
Speaker 4: Yes, he's not now, he's not now, and I guarantee
Speaker 4: if you talk to him, he's gonna tell you how
Speaker 4: much he loves playing with Steph because it takes so
Speaker 4: much away from him with other players.
Speaker 1: It's no more dealing with twos and three.
Speaker 3: You know. You know I told you I cold aging
Speaker 3: or cole Many. Mante Ellens shout out, mante Ellis, man,
Speaker 3: that was one of my dudes. And he he was
Speaker 3: mad because David Lee got a Max contract. White boy dad. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I remember, shout out, David, that's my man. We's poking
Speaker 3: all that shit together.
Speaker 1: David Lee. Right, how you worried about it? A man
Speaker 1: is fill that's pople player in the world. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But David Lee got an eighty million dollar contract at
Speaker 3: the time, and mante Ellens said to me, he said,
Speaker 3: how's the nigga get eighty million and never a double
Speaker 3: team for him? See, this is when you start analyzing
Speaker 3: players and understand the differences and who's really who is.
Speaker 1: When you got a.
Speaker 3: Player that's taking all the attention and every team is
Speaker 3: good to stop them, you fall through the cracks.
Speaker 1: Bro. So that's why what are you talking about?
Speaker 2: Because Lebron the whole league the reps, every team, the players,
Speaker 2: the FA they've been getting towards him.
Speaker 1: Since he came out of high school. So he number
Speaker 1: one if he got this. You watched Lebron get double
Speaker 1: teams ten team, Yeah, the whole Detroit. He dunk on
Speaker 1: the whole team. Lebron is power and speed. He don't
Speaker 1: shake nobody.
Speaker 3: He's gonna run through.
Speaker 1: Understand, And you go about that. I would me first.
Speaker 3: When I watched when I watched Lebron, And again, I
Speaker 3: don't want to knock Lebron.
Speaker 1: Don't give me number one day.
Speaker 2: By your analogy, he's number one if you're talking about
Speaker 2: the main focus of the are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: But them dudes was them dudes were coming on was
Speaker 2: plumbers man. He wasn't athletic.
Speaker 3: They already I don't want to go back and forth
Speaker 3: with you with this.
Speaker 1: Go look at the players that he played with.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying no, but I'm saying that my eyes
Speaker 2: play with eyes that I saw.
Speaker 1: Shorting this number one.
Speaker 2: I said, but it was knowledge electricians and makes little
Speaker 2: Raw number one because.
Speaker 1: Just because that analogy doesn't make him number one. So listen.
Speaker 1: So bj Armstrong was bj Armstrong and Jordan made him,
Speaker 1: but he wasn't a star role player. Paxton wasn't the
Speaker 1: start of the role players.
Speaker 3: What about what about what about her specialists?
Speaker 1: Role player?
Speaker 3: He can't he had them in history.
Speaker 1: That's just say no, the team is designed. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: need a person for these places.
Speaker 3: They knew three people's on Jordan's someone's open that's gonna
Speaker 3: be reliable to knock it down. So they got specialist Hodges.
Speaker 1: Fuck, then what about Craig Hodges.
Speaker 3: Craig Hodges got busy. I'm telling you, Yeah, they had specialists.
Speaker 3: That's how you designed the team. But that's how you
Speaker 3: gotta design it. I hear you.
Speaker 2: There's no team designed like that since Golden State. That's
Speaker 2: the only team since Chicago that was designed by the
Speaker 2: regular role player that dominated the game.
Speaker 1: How that happened?
Speaker 3: See, this is where you're missing this punt.
Speaker 1: It's the same happened. It's the same thing with Detroit Pistons.
Speaker 1: How they wore they one? They ring? How did it happen?
Speaker 2: The team together? But these niggas was all stars. It's
Speaker 2: just nobody wanted. I'm not talking about that Detroit. I'm
Speaker 2: talking about Detroit with Ben Willers Chauncey Billups, rip hamdled.
Speaker 3: That was my squad. Okay, Mota City, that was my team.
Speaker 3: A bunch of niggas that you counted out and we
Speaker 3: get together and show you we really had. I'm here too,
Speaker 3: So that's.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying. You can't say either, it's not number one.
Speaker 2: If you get together, put the team together, all.
Speaker 1: Of your niggas level. What team was gearing up to
Speaker 1: stop IgA dollars?
Speaker 3: That's what the problem is.
Speaker 1: That's what stop dollar in Golden State? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: I'm not hot yo, were goiving touch you, andre j.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to gearing up to stop the whole
Speaker 1: Golden State. These niggas invented the move around giving They
Speaker 1: was looking like the Globe trotters when they first study
Speaker 1: niggas trying to con the whole team. I think they're
Speaker 1: the reason.
Speaker 3: Okay, hold on, hold on this pit stop stop who's
Speaker 3: the one out of all of them is running around.
Speaker 3: That's who they're geared towards. The whole plays is run
Speaker 3: because they had they had an iconic player. Listen to me,
Speaker 3: they got an iconic player, Steff, I'm not saying nothing.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to explain to you.
Speaker 1: So he's the iconic player. You agree, I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: you one. Okay.
Speaker 3: So if that's the case, the entire offense is designed
Speaker 3: around him.
Speaker 1: Not a good dollar. You say you are second and.
Speaker 3: Third option, Hodie, right, he'll tell you.
Speaker 1: But listen, so lit'sten right. You can't be bringing the
Speaker 1: second and third breaking down.
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to say, who a star? He said iconic? Okay,
Speaker 2: jay Z is fucking iconic. But we all stars on
Speaker 2: there too. We role players, though, but we stars.
Speaker 1: In that right. I said, nobody ain't gonna tell me.
Speaker 3: Fella got it when he got to when he got
Speaker 3: the gonna say he's the role player you got, you
Speaker 3: got Steph, and you had Clay Clay. Clay's a monster.
Speaker 1: Draymond is a star. Dre not a star. He a
Speaker 1: role player.
Speaker 3: If Draymond played for the Knicks with Draymond even played,
Speaker 3: see he.
Speaker 1: Only could do what he's doing.
Speaker 3: I feel like that, it's like you know you again.
Speaker 3: It's like you get that perfect combination. Stephan Draymond is
Speaker 3: the perfect combination. Fuck I fuck with Dre Draymond like
Speaker 3: he's a grinder. But he has to fit in a
Speaker 3: certain system or else he'll be irrelevant.
Speaker 1: So chill this conversation. That's because sports is crazy.
Speaker 2: This is the basketball I love y'all. I just want
Speaker 2: to tell you, don't lose my script in the mail
Speaker 2: like this. This was my invite sit in the script.
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