1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: What up, y'all. This is your main man, Memphis Bleak 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: right here. 3 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 2: Welcome to Rock Solid, a production of iHeart Radio and 4 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 2: the Black Effect Network in partnership with my gods over 5 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 2: at Drink Champs. 6 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: Big with the year Memphis. I'm back at it, niggas. 7 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: Notice the difference just pron president. 8 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, y'all, you already know what it is. Back with 9 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: another exclusive. And I tell you see a many people 10 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: sitting on this stage, sitting right here with me, and 11 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 2: not everybody is like everybody, but this man sitting to 12 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 2: the left of me, this is family. 13 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: This is my brother. This is a OG. 14 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: Every time he spoke, I listened, So you know it's 15 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 2: an honor to have him sitting here. 16 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: You know, I gotta say rest in peace to his. 17 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 3: Brother Earth Godi, who is another legend in this game, 18 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 3: a brother of mine who taught me many things that 19 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 3: I still apply to business to this day. 20 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: So I want to welcome my got, Chris Gotti to 21 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: the building. You already know my brother. 22 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: I love you, bro, man. Thank you for having me. Man. 23 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: Appreciate man. 24 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: When they told me it's so crazy how this happened, 25 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: because I was supposed to come here and if you're 26 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 2: somebody else yesterday and Ormando was like, yo, I was 27 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 2: just talking to Chris Gotti. I was like, what they 28 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: tell Gotty pull up. It's like y'all, I'm gonna get 29 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 2: you on the phone. And I'm like, yeah, let's do it. 30 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 2: As soon as he said that, I was like, what 31 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: I was looking for you? 32 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: I promise you. I told rud not too long ago. 33 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 3: I need to give a bleak info because I wanted 34 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 3: to come and talk to you about not just this, 35 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 3: but other things, other businesses. 36 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: That I'm involved in and I think maybe make some Yeah. 37 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 2: So you got the Basketball League popping man, congratulations. 38 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: Definitely want to talk to you about that. Man. 39 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 3: We just season season one. We did season one. You know, 40 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 3: it's really just money. I gotta raise more money. But 41 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 3: season one was incredible, sold out every week. It's a 42 00:01:55,760 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 3: it's a small league, short seasons, CPL right, CPO. 43 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: Class pro league. You know what I'm saying. 44 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 3: And again it's all D one players or players that 45 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 3: played overseas or you know, and it's I've been inside 46 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 3: the street basketball for decades. You feel me helped Greg 47 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 3: Matters with God bless Greg when he did Rucker had 48 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 3: it at the height helping Ken Steven shout out Ken, 49 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, helped him with Dykeman to 50 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 3: get Dykeman really at it where it's at today. 51 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: And that gave me a lot of insight. You know, 52 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: I have a. 53 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 3: Sports management business that I did, you know, that's what 54 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 3: you know. For over almost thirty going into thirty years, 55 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 3: and I've been involved with either co aging or co 56 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 3: managing or managing all these different NBA players or football players. 57 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 3: I even had one golfer professional golfer. So I'm inside 58 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 3: the sports culture aside from just music, like I've been 59 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 3: doing that. And the reason I went into it is 60 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 3: because when them boys came, got to diversify because they 61 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 3: shut off the fastt That's the fact. 62 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 2: But Yo, speaking on that, man, that's one thing a 63 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: lot of people don't know. Man, it's only two goddies 64 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: in the world that beat many. 65 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 66 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 2: It's the GotY Brothers and it is Gotty man, But 67 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 2: y'all beat them boys, man. 68 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: And that people don't know. 69 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:15,119 Speaker 3: My lawyer was Gerald Shall he passed just not man, 70 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 3: God bless, but he was also got his lawyer. 71 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: Da Oh, so he knew man, Man the playbook. He's 72 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: the best attorney I've ever seen something. 73 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 3: Man. 74 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:26,839 Speaker 1: And you know everybody know y'all stood tall. 75 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 2: You know this in this new world today of all 76 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 2: these rappers catching cases and shit going down there, you know, 77 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 2: it's like, you know, one of the. 78 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: Things that we're crazy. We're crazy. 79 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 3: While we was in trial, to the prosecutor, you know, 80 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 3: she was always trying to change things or say things 81 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 3: like that's what their job is or whatever. But he 82 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 3: would tell the judge, you know, this is the lord, 83 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 3: this is the case. 84 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: Lord. 85 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 3: He would break it down and it got so real 86 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 3: with the judge told her if Gerald Shark Gelle says 87 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 3: this is what it is, don't question me. 88 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: It's that Nah. It was crazy. She was so mad. 89 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: He was he was a beef, he was a beast. 90 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 2: Man called him a superman in the courtroom. Man, that 91 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 2: ship happened at the height of murder, inc man. That's 92 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 2: one thing I feel like, you know a lot of 93 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 2: people in this rap industry think rap beef can can 94 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 2: take ship down, but they don't understand that that happened 95 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 2: all simultaneously. 96 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: And it's like that was crazy, man. We got. 97 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 3: But just making me feel that way listen, But you 98 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 3: know what you just said something that's so real, because 99 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 3: you know I do podcasts with all types of they 100 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 3: don't understand and they always bring up the beef and 101 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 3: it ain't got that. And I said, let me tell 102 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 3: you entertainment, bro, it's entertainment. 103 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 1: I said. Number one is I never felt pressure. 104 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 3: Number Number two was, let's say he took away y'all completely, 105 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 3: what which never happened, but let's just say that's what 106 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 3: it like happened. 107 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: We was doing over two and forty million. 108 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 3: Dollarge exact job. Let's say jobs were for one hundred 109 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 3: and thirty. 110 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:08,239 Speaker 1: It was good. 111 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 3: I'm still right, it was good. But when boys avid boys. 112 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 3: And then what's even further than most people don't know 113 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 3: is they universal IDJ, depth JAM cooperated with the FIS 114 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 3: against us, So you would expect that. Yeah, but you 115 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 3: say that, but that's my machine. Yes, so how can 116 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 3: you put out music? 117 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: Yes? They not. And then when you think of business, 118 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: they didn't do anything but shifted from one side from 119 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: murder inc And put it over the aftermath, Gene. That's 120 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: all they did. It was a lateral move. 121 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 3: Boom, the money gotta move the money, don't change though 122 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 3: they still eating, They still good, but they definitely you know, 123 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 3: was did us dirty and. 124 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: Play a major role in that? Man? But ship before that. 125 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 2: Let's go back, man, the rise of murder in I 126 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 2: remember when y'all first started coming around. 127 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: A lot of people don't. 128 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 2: Know Gott he was a a DJ yes when I 129 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:07,239 Speaker 2: first DJ yes dj he my G holding it down 130 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: on the tour, telling me, yo, you bugging don't be 131 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 2: leaving the club. 132 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: Going home with no girls. You better bring them to 133 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: the hotel. You don't go. I'm telling you, I was 134 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: the young boy in the wild, told me my G. 135 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 2: I remember when I first met Ji, all of y'all, 136 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 2: bj Ron, Gutter, all of y'all man, you know, and 137 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,119 Speaker 2: we became a family facts and then I watched y'all 138 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: grow from the beginning, bro, and it was just like 139 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 2: a title wave all at once, Like you know, I 140 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 2: was that man. 141 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. It's really like unreal, like surreal, 142 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. 143 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 3: You go through these things, you watch all these things transpire, 144 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 3: and you know the reality murder incing. I've been trying 145 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 3: to explain because everyone asks, how did Earth start murder inc? 146 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: I said, technically he didn't. 147 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, And what I mean by that is Earth just 148 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 3: wanted to be the biggest producer in the game. And 149 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 3: we had Little Rob. Shout out, Little Rob that was 150 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 3: the one producer we had with Rob was putting up Yeah, 151 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 3: but he didn't make a lot. See, so he was 152 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 3: making hits. 153 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: No question. 154 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 3: But you know, when you're in business's quantity, I can't. 155 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 3: I can't service the industry with just a few beats. 156 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: I need a lot. 157 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 3: And I told IRV I had just made the transition, 158 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 3: like because I built the construction business. If that was 159 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 3: funding her nerve saw making some money with top Door productions, 160 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And Rod tells me, Yo, 161 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,679 Speaker 3: I need you back with me because I started Earth. 162 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 3: And then I said okay, and I started doing both. 163 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 3: But then after I did both, I got burnt out 164 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 3: and I said, I'm gonna just do music. But to 165 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 3: get twenty percent of five thousand dollars ain't gonna pay me. 166 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. 167 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 3: Man, If I sell three out of the four beats 168 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 3: Robed made, that's three racks. 169 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: That's not enough. 170 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 3: So I went back to Earth and said, listen, I'm 171 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 3: gonna go bring in more producers, and. 172 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: He was like, I don't care what you do. 173 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 3: I'm not taking less than five thousand, you know what 174 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 3: I'm saying. I started laughing. It's like, of course I 175 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 3: got you. So that was the beginning. I started adding 176 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 3: in producers and the next you know, we went from five. 177 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 3: I took us from five to fifteen to twenty five 178 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 3: to fifty in less than six months. We had fifty 179 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 3: thousand a track. The first year we had one hundred 180 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 3: thousand a track, you know what I'm saying. And that 181 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 3: was the beginning of all of that, and we just 182 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 3: kept going. We went only up to two hundred and 183 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 3: fifty thousand track or it was getting two fifty. But 184 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 3: that's all these producers I got. We had a team 185 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 3: of producers. That's weird her banging out. 186 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: That's how the crackhouse came about. Man, that's the crackhouse. 187 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: Crack house. I was in there. She was like a fortress, 188 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: you know. It was like the Carter. 189 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 3: It was so real because I was controlling all the 190 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 3: business on everything. So I'm seeing all the money we 191 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 3: spending in studios, and I told her I created something 192 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 3: called mink rentals am I and see murder in rentals 193 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 3: and we rented. We built our studios so we could 194 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 3: rent our studio to ourselves to make the money. You know, 195 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 3: we bought houses to rent the house. We're traveling all over. 196 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 3: This is when we start really rocking, and I'm watching 197 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 3: these bills. We had a hundred plus thousand a month 198 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 3: in car services, so I bought it. I started buying cars. 199 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: And getting all my hood. 200 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 3: The whole hood is drivers. 201 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 2: Right, that's the smart way to do it. 202 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 3: And they universal got mad because we was doing that. 203 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 3: But I said, it's our bills and went in and 204 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 3: we went in there and fight. We would go back 205 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 3: and fight with all of them, and the next you know, 206 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 3: I see them doing it their own little car. The 207 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 3: car service, he was the ones that started that. That's 208 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 3: a fact. And that was because I seen that. I've 209 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 3: seen that. And then again even the studio were the 210 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 3: ones to do it. Because I'm watching all of those 211 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 3: budgets go to Quad Studios and right hit track three, 212 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 3: right track, and you look at the bill and you're like, damn, 213 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 3: why they're getting all that money. 214 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: That's a fact, that car service and sending it order 215 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: recirculated that money right back to us. Man. 216 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 2: No, that was dope man. That was a master plan. Yeah, 217 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 2: that was and we gave him a discount. 218 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: They was mad. 219 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 3: We gave him a love price because it was us, like, 220 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 3: we're doing it for ourselves, so they got we made 221 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 3: albums cheaper. 222 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: But if we had to produce for other people, they 223 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: got to pay full rate. Everything. 224 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 2: Think about I'm going to that po sad Man from 225 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 2: five thousand a track, yeah, two hundred and fifty. 226 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, in about two years time. It was sweet super. 227 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 2: That that that ninety five to about twenty fifteen running. 228 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 3: Oh my well, our heights, Our heights is from two 229 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 3: thousand and two to two thousand and five. 230 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: But that's when the trial. 231 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 3: Ends in December two thousand and five. 232 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: And damn, here's the crazyiness. It seemed like fucking fifteen. 233 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,599 Speaker 3: We had a lot of his againness book for the 234 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 3: longest run at number one, not like, so what do 235 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 3: you mean if he produced one artist, the other artist 236 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 3: he produced took that artist out, the next artist took 237 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 3: that artist. 238 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: Out of producer. 239 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 3: He was a producer on the Hot one hundred for 240 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 3: I believe it was like forty eight weeks. 241 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: Damn, Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, it's in again this book. 242 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,719 Speaker 1: I'm not sure the time frame, but it's again, it's 243 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: in there. They can fact check it. 244 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, they can fact check. He's still it's still the 245 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 3: only producer to do that. That's something that you know, 246 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 3: as good as these other producers are, they might produce 247 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 3: another artist, but they don't go number one or the 248 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,479 Speaker 3: competition gets the number one stake. 249 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: And you're the older brother. 250 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 2: Yes, so look see little bro go from DJ ear. 251 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 2: Then it was the Mike Geronimo run because I remember 252 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 2: when Ship Is reel came out, that was ship was 253 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 2: Licked and Kennedy he was outside there. 254 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 3: You know, the ships real for you know Jay to 255 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 3: bring up Jay, shout out Jay. 256 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, that's right, always always man. 257 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 3: But that's what made him fuck with probably more in 258 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 3: my opinion, this is not I would have to ask 259 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 3: him to be sure. 260 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: Because he came to IRVS like how you getting him played? 261 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 262 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 3: This is when you know, I tell everyone we was 263 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 3: all a family, but this is competition all time. Hi. Look, 264 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 3: it's a rapper is a blood spoil, and especially. 265 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 2: In that era, and it's only ten slots, it's one 266 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 2: hundred rappers in New York. It's right, and there's only 267 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:39,479 Speaker 2: ten slots, there's only twelve magazine covers. 268 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: That's right. 269 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 3: And were fighting, so it's like a it's that competition, 270 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 3: friendly competition, family competition, which is nothing wrong with it 271 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 3: because it really pushes each. 272 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: Other to the next level. 273 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 3: And I believe we had that because I remember us 274 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 3: going into sessions when we had our records and this 275 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 3: is our album. We go play for each other and 276 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 3: be like, yeah, this is the date we coming, don't 277 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 3: come that day, and they give you you know, don't 278 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 3: come the same time so. 279 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: We don't interrupt each other's run. 280 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 3: That's that's intellectual property. 281 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: That's right. 282 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 3: That's our p for your ass, and that's we didn't 283 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 3: give that to anyone outside of the family. Like I 284 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 3: remember even doing that with Diddy, running with going into 285 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 3: his sessions like yo were coming, you know what I'm saying. 286 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: Rough Fridays it was. It was. 287 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 3: It was Rockefeller Rough Fridays, Murder and Murder in b 288 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 3: and bad Boy was again inside of that as well, 289 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 3: and we we we shared notes and it was a 290 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 3: real competitive thing. 291 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: But we go in each other sessions. They came in 292 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: all sessions. 293 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 3: I never Swiss came in our sessions playing heat, shut 294 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 3: out Swami Swiss. 295 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: He's the one man. 296 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 2: Army Swiss are coming to session and that one records here. 297 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 2: Come in there and play some ship and you'll be like, 298 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 2: I don't think I got records like that. 299 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: No different way, No, Listen. We was blessed. But listen, 300 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: everyone had their game. 301 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 3: What they wasna just be sitting Oh man, listen, they 302 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 3: came in with the fire man guns blazing. 303 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: That's a fact. 304 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 2: Was major, especially between Murder and Rockefeller and uh rough Riders. 305 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 3: And then when I look back to me, that is 306 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 3: part of something that made it so special. I look 307 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 3: back at that and when you put IRV in the middle, 308 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 3: he was the He was the kind of the person 309 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 3: that kept everyone all the glue that glued him. 310 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 2: He definitely was the glue man. We can never take 311 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 2: that away. And you was the og in the background. 312 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: Man, you know what I mean? 313 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 3: Like ship? 314 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: What was it like? 315 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 2: We had this conversation a little bit off camera, but 316 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 2: I want to bring it up on camera because let's 317 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 2: talk about it. I got a few cousins right that 318 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 2: I used to be as a kid growing, I used 319 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 2: to be mad at be like, damn cuz how you 320 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 2: ain't rolling the round, how you ain't got the bands 321 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 2: because you supposed to add the condo up top. Cousin, 322 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 2: you was eighteen in the eighties when niggas was making 323 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 2: a million dollars on the corner right a day, a 324 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 2: day a week, straight up getting it, and you ain't 325 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 2: go outside and get none of that. 326 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: So I used to be as a kid looking at 327 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: my cousins like niggas was soft. Yeah, niggas wasn't outside. 328 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: You never wanted to think for me. I never hustled, 329 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: no way, never hus never. You just knew all the hustlers. 330 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it all the way one hundred. I 331 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: might have robbed. Oh you was the stick up man. 332 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sticky old. You can't do both. That's why 333 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: I yeah, I was. 334 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 3: Never on the block because that block life. I looked 335 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 3: at the block life. All my niggas was on that 336 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 3: block every day. I never seen him up up never, 337 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 3: not the block niggas. 338 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, the niggas was moving, niggas was getting it for them. 339 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: I seen him up. So I never wanted to. 340 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 3: It was like that's the road you had to travel 341 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 3: to get to that next stage. It was super violent. 342 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 3: It was super violent. Likes violence I'm talking about for Hollis. 343 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 3: I grew up in Hollice Queens. You know, I'm from 344 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 3: browns People always say that we're from brown from Lavonia. 345 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm from Mother. I'm from Rockaway, Dumont. 346 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: So I'm just saying we was. My family's all in Brownsville. 347 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 3: My mother's mother and father bought us this house because 348 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 3: they didn't want eight kids in Brownsville in a three 349 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 3: bedroom apartment, and they got the house in house, a 350 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 3: three bedroom house, but we used every inch of the house. 351 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 3: But we had Hollss Queens, different lifestyle. But again I 352 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 3: always claim house because that's where I made my life. 353 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 3: So that's where I did my work and I always 354 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 3: go if I go back. I always had guns. So 355 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 3: I was the kid in the neighborhood with the juice. 356 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: Right, that's the movies. The gun. The juice was the gun. 357 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: You have movies. The juice is the because he had 358 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: the gun. 359 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 2: It was because it wasn't like day it'd be five niggas. 360 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 2: It's thirty guns in the car. Back in the day, 361 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 2: it's five niggas. Who has it? 362 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 3: That's right one gun, so you know me, I had 363 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 3: it and everyone from the hospital come get me to 364 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 3: do ship. 365 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: I was Again I always say, you know, I was stupid. 366 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 3: You know, God protect yours and I never thought of 367 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 3: consequences and things of my actions. 368 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: I just and it was never me. It was like 369 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: you come and get me, yo. They just shot. Let's 370 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: go get them, come on, it was like, let's go. 371 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: You had that. Not only did I have that, but 372 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: I had money because again I used. 373 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 3: To do I was money. They couldn't understand how I 374 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 3: had money and they didn't have the money. I would 375 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 3: take the niggas on the block shopping, like, come on, niggaleas, 376 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 3: get you fresh. Look at you your niggas out here 377 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 3: all day. I was like, you could get a job 378 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 3: in McDonald's and do better. I would kill them because 379 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 3: you was to respect the money more. I would kill 380 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 3: all the black niggas, man, because I was fucking with 381 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 3: the niggas that was behind them. And then they would 382 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 3: tell me either come with them to go pick some 383 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 3: ship up and it hit me off with some bread, 384 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 3: or they would line some ship up, you know what 385 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 3: I'm saying. 386 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: And I never had that. 387 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 3: That gene called fear. So it was just and once 388 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 3: they said it, it was it wasn't me like, oh man, 389 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 3: am I gonna? I was like cool, let's go. It's 390 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 3: like it was never that. And for me, I was, 391 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 3: like you said, I was Herb's big brother. I never 392 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 3: would tell IRV anything because if I did it, Earth 393 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 3: did it. 394 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: And I didn't want me to do the things that 395 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 1: you did. 396 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what's up, man, ship My brother ain't giving 397 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 2: a fuck, Like, hey, nigga, I'm selling drug. 398 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: Come on with bust that down. Here's what you got. 399 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: You know what I tell and I ain't. I don't 400 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 1: want to say but niggas because. 401 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 3: Like I don't even smoke or nothing. 402 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: And I was around it my whole life, you know, 403 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: but I didn't. 404 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 3: Have I lost two uncles though, to that blue magic on. 405 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: Some real Wow. Yeah man, that's crazy. 406 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. My father on my mother's side and my father's side, 407 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 3: they grew up in home and they got some bad 408 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 3: damn man. 409 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 1: Now that ever back then was bad. Man. You definitely 410 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 1: had uncles that court, no aunts all that. That era 411 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: was different, man, it was. 412 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 2: But like I just heard you say, I always kept 413 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 2: the cool, had always was level headed and I could 414 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 2: definitely say bro at the height of Murder in from 415 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 2: the beginning to the height when Gotti and Jah was 416 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 2: running around like these niggas was determinator. 417 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: Chris Nigga be like, Yo, bleak tripping, don't even worry 418 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: about that ship. 419 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 2: Just come back in the morning. They gotta have a 420 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 2: beach for you. Don't even listen. 421 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: We don't got time for that ship. We rock stars. 422 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: Nigga like. 423 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like while I'm getting cursed out that I'm not 424 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 2: accepting I'm a rock stuff. 425 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 3: Let me tell you when they say it was the 426 00:19:55,960 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 3: best time, it was the worst time. You know, we 427 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 3: have Listen, everyone looks at us like like we had 428 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 3: a real plan and we understood every Now we didn't. 429 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: We learned as we go. We learned on the flat. 430 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: We're quick learners, you know. 431 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 3: For me personally, if I watch anyone do something, I 432 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 3: do it. 433 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: That's just me. I could do it. That's my blessing. 434 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: Like I look at that. 435 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 3: I built the whole construction company and I learned every trade. 436 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: I ain't go to school. I learned every part of 437 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 1: this music business. Right, I'm a lawyer. I'm not a doctor. 438 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: I'm a doctor. 439 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 3: Like I really learned this ship and I have it. 440 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 3: No one could take it from you, no matter what 441 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 3: it is. And my mind is different. And I always 442 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 3: was quiet. You to tell you I was quiet because 443 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 3: I'm a student. I'm watching everyone's actions, and my job was. 444 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 1: To protect my brother and to protect everyone around. That's 445 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: how my job was. 446 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 3: When I'm when you quiet and you fall back and 447 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 3: you let earth and job. They out there doing anything, 448 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 3: you see everyone who's who? You see that when they're 449 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 3: not paying attention the way they're looking that niggas they 450 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 3: looking at her like fun. You know, you could say, so, 451 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 3: I'm telling them afterwards, Yo, this niggas no good, right, 452 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 3: I'm telling. 453 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 1: You I've seen the looks. But that's not their job, 454 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: that's right. They in the middle of the storm. 455 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 3: You know. 456 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 2: I got homies like that, and the crew that don't talk. 457 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 2: They come around, don't say a word. You won't even 458 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 2: remember that when we first started. When you go back, 459 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 2: when you talk that I was, it was just me. 460 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 2: I'll be outside. I'd tell them going to club. If 461 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 2: they coming out, hit me if there's a problem, so 462 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 2: I know what's coming. I'm outside ham it up, waiting 463 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 2: for the niggas. 464 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: Coming up. It wasn't until I got fat Boy. Shout out, 465 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: fat Boy, shout out Todd. You know what I'm saying. 466 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 3: When I got fat Boy inside with me, that was 467 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 3: my first help. Like, these are my niggas from Queen's. 468 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 3: They came out, but Irving them, I keep it a buck. 469 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 3: They didn't want them to come out. 470 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: They like they always in trouble. 471 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 3: That's what I need. 472 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: You need some trouble, don't worry. I'll keep them away 473 00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 1: from you. 474 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 3: And you know they love them niggas, but they didn't 475 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 3: want the trouble to bring them down. Urb and Ruth 476 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 3: both loved these niggas. They just didn't want to get 477 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 3: They didn't want to They look were on the rise. 478 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 3: We're trying to come up. We don't want nothing to 479 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 3: pull it back. 480 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: Yo. So I had to keep them niggas with me 481 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: and keep them away from Irving. 482 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 2: Whole is different than that hole half niggas. I'll be 483 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 2: you know, we got the party. I'll be like, yo, 484 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 2: it's a party. 485 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: Like, first of all, I'm too young, so I got 486 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: a explimission. Cannot go. 487 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be like a yeah you can roll, No nigga, 488 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 2: I get to this party. Start seeing all the killers 489 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 2: from the projects. Here, these niggas popping bottles, drinking over 490 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 2: it's with that funny that, yo, that's why I tell 491 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 2: niggas the the whole you see. 492 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, this is the man. 493 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 3: I want to write the book about it. It's called 494 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 3: it's called the. 495 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: The What do you call that? 496 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 3: The damn you're making me forget right now? It's it's 497 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 3: like the changing domestication. It's the domestication of a gangster. 498 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 3: That's going to be my book. I'm right, I like that. 499 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 1: But that's what he is. He's a domesticated gangst. 500 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 3: You know. 501 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: I tell you. I tell everyone. 502 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,239 Speaker 3: I said, you know when they talk Jay and they 503 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 3: talk about him today and where he's at and he's 504 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 3: the businessman, businessman this I said, he got that because 505 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 3: he honed his skills this time and ground him from 506 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 3: the president in his songs. 507 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: You just listen. 508 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 2: I always tell people today, these kids today, I feel 509 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 2: like they treat life like a book report. Now they 510 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 2: be like, yo, go do the book report at the 511 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 2: grib and as a kid, you cheated. You're like, I'm 512 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 2: gonna read a little bit in the middle, and I'm 513 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 2: gonna read that and I'm gonna write what happened, skip 514 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 2: the whole beginning. So that's why I say these kids 515 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 2: today don't look at the beginning chapters of niggas lists 516 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 2: want to see everything he said. 517 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 3: And it was everything he said. It has been facts. 518 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 3: You know, I get that question all the time, and 519 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 3: you know I'm not saying it because you're here. I 520 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 3: said all the time, he's the best. No, I said 521 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 3: all the time too, people trying to argue me down 522 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 3: and again these other great great other It's just like 523 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 3: he's like when you talk basket Jordan, I'm like this, 524 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 3: no one better than Jordan. 525 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: Yah. 526 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 3: We didn't see it, I said, But there's other great players. 527 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 3: You get fool to say Lebron ain't not great and 528 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 3: like one of one as well. Yes he's won two, 529 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 3: Like you know, Kobe has to take a back seat. 530 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: That's right. He and he understood it. 531 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 2: And Kobe is an God bless Kobe family, God bless him, 532 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 2: Kobe monster man. Like listen, I'm a New Yorker. I 533 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 2: didn't like the Lakers. He used to kill every team. 534 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: I brought him. The Rutkoki played Ruki. You can never 535 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: can never doubt that that. 536 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 3: That That's what made me respect. When I seen Kobe 537 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 3: in Harlem, oh ship, and I'm telling you he was 538 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 3: and he did. He gave you street ball. 539 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I was a basketball fan, so I was 540 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 2: hating from a basketball fan. 541 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: Hold on, and he did it after he had five rings. Yeah, 542 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 1: this ain't like rookie five ring. Now this is five rings. Kobe, man, that's. 543 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 2: God bless one of the greatest players I ever witnessed playing. 544 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 2: Got to shake his hand and watch them bust all 545 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 2: my favorite players ass and was heartbreaking. One of my 546 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 2: regrets in life is I didn't you know, I never 547 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 2: took pictures all the time. 548 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 1: That wasn't it. Yeah, we wasn't. We didn't grow up 549 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: with that. 550 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 3: I know picture as much as I was around him 551 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 3: and with him and in La. You know when he scored, 552 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 3: when he would drop what are you dropping? In New Garden? 553 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 3: He gros sixty sixty sixty four six Washington is a 554 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 3: video you're gonna see. The first person he run to 555 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 3: is me. He didn't talk to you the whole fucking game. 556 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 3: I'm right there on the floor, I'm sitting next to 557 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 3: James Thing and I'm calling him at halftime and everything 558 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:45,479 Speaker 3: in the beginning. 559 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: He wouldn't even look at me. As soon as it's over, 560 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: he read. 561 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 3: I did it. 562 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: He was that focused. 563 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 2: He used to bust ass in the guarden every time 564 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 2: he came. He drove fifty I'm just saying, you know, 565 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 2: he's I never took pictures with that man. 566 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 3: I got pictures that I took for him and others, 567 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 3: and nothing with me because I wasn't thinking it wasn't 568 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 3: gonna be here like that. 569 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: We never thinking like that, I know. 570 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 3: But that's something for people to understand out there, to understand, 571 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 3: to make sure they get. 572 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 2: And a lot of the respect I feel like they 573 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 2: need to appreciate. Life is short, man. You don't know, really, 574 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 2: you really don't know. I just lost my brother fifty four. 575 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 2: How do you figure that out? You know what I'm saying, 576 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 2: And that that was way unexpected, bro, Like you know, 577 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 2: I'm just then the biggest deal of his career. 578 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 3: Like we got so many things we was plotting on 579 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,239 Speaker 3: and planning on, and yeah, it's like I curse him 580 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 3: out now. 581 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: Like when I wake up, I'm like, nigga, you left 582 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: me here for this, for myself for the fuck nigga. 583 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, like how you leave this 584 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 3: ship like that and that, and because I really believe 585 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 3: it could have been it could have been different. 586 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 2: But definitely man all this ship. Man like we we are, 587 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 2: I own demands, you feel me. I believe that like 588 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 2: what we what we do to our bodies. If we 589 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 2: don't take care of our self, we don't go get 590 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 2: the proper. It's like it's like a car. I feel like, right, 591 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 2: if you just drive around, drive around, never take your 592 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 2: car waiting for it to break that she's gonna cak 593 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 2: outs and break down. 594 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: And it's might be in the highway somewhere. So literally 595 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: the desert. 596 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 2: If you if you could take your car to get serviced, 597 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 2: you got to be able to take the body to 598 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 2: get sold to you. 599 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. The mind too, like you 600 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: know everything else, I try to eat healthier. 601 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 3: I fast a lot, and yeah, you know fast and 602 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 3: the health factors that it comes with with the body, 603 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 3: and yes, we gotta as you get older, you know, 604 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 3: your body don't break down that food it always used 605 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 3: to eating late studios and you don't heal. 606 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 1: It's quick to come. 607 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 2: So it's like that that's the one thing that I say, 608 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 2: I always tell people getting no suck, getting no sucks, 609 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 2: but not getting no sucks. 610 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 611 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 3: So yeah, when niggas says, ah, you older, that's the gold. 612 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: That's right. That's right, that's what we have, that's what 613 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: we want to do. That's right, man. But don't want 614 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: to know what the other side of that is. And 615 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: I feel like. 616 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 2: These kids just got to take appreciate it. Just appreciate life, man, 617 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 2: because it's not it's not forever. We're only here for 618 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 2: a short period of time. 619 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:14,239 Speaker 1: We got to live it. To them. 620 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 3: I'm gonna shout someone out that's doing something because when 621 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 3: you talk that young, the young people, there's a young 622 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 3: artist right now NBA young boy, Oh my god, and 623 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 3: congratulations for doing all the things you're doing on touring. 624 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 3: They never thought that type of rat would go out 625 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 3: and peacefully do tours. Keep make sure keep pushing it, man, 626 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 3: because again, I'm a fan. You know, I'm a fan 627 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 3: of Dirk. I know y'all have the but I'm a 628 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 3: fan of the music for both of them, that's right. 629 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 3: And I'm the end of the day, I'm a fan 630 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 3: of hip hop. 631 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: Hip hop. These kids pushing it forward. 632 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 3: And it's their turn, yes, man, it's their turn back 633 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 3: and watch them and change the gas gug like it's 634 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 3: to help them. Is to tell you what to look 635 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 3: out for, what to do like this is why it's 636 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 3: like that, and hopefully they heat all word. That's that's 637 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 3: all we could do is give a little bit of game. 638 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 3: It's a it's a lot of ignorance in the game though. 639 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 2: You got a few people out here who want to 640 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 2: push the violent narrative and all. 641 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: The other ship. 642 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 3: I don't see no one doing ship. 643 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: But it's like niggas just talking. You smack niggas. You 644 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: know they ain't doing nothing of who'd you touch? Show me? 645 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 3: You show me something? Someone said, Yeah he fucked me up. 646 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: Yo, it's not don't hear it. I don't see it. Yeah, 647 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: that didn't happen in hip hop no more. We don't 648 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: need it. We don't need but we don't need no violence. 649 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: Don't talk is to get money. 650 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 3: Said that to you said you couldn't talk if you 651 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 3: wasn't you know, if it wasn't you, you can't say it. 652 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: That's right. If it was one of his That's where 653 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: I'm from. 654 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 2: Everything you need to know about the words, he couldn't 655 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 2: say it that's that's where I'm his words. Bro, he 656 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 2: gave you the game, just listen hundred percent. But then yo, 657 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 2: y'all gave us job rule. Y'all gave us a shanty then, 658 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 2: y'all rebirth job j Low like Bro, y'all, y'all push. 659 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: The envelope to y'all. Rebirth, rebirth fat Joe. Joe, y'all 660 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: gave him one two words. 661 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 3: He'll admit it. He says it all the time. But 662 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 3: I feel like a lot of change his whole trajectory. 663 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 3: Shout out Joe and Jada, man ya they doing is 664 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 3: amazing over there. Y'all changed the trajectory I feel like 665 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 3: of music and murder. Inc don't get the credit of 666 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 3: that because before y'all, it wasn't like Ye Puff did 667 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 3: the you know, the R and B. 668 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 2: And rapped together, but it wasn't done. It's one like 669 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 2: it was total featuring big or feature in mas feature 670 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 2: in one twelve. 671 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 3: You know, they never they never gave John his credit 672 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 3: to pioneering a game that every First of all, I 673 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 3: don't even I don't even think all this good deals. 674 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: Now if you don't rap and sing, think about that. 675 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 2: You gotta have some of that melodic, flowing straight up 676 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 2: like and I remember when he first was when in 677 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 2: y'all pioneer like coming out with that, and niggas used 678 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 2: to be. 679 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 3: Looking like, say something because I'm gonna give you the 680 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 3: IRV gotty, I'm gonna speak like that. He's with me. 681 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 3: That part what you just said, you don't hear it 682 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 3: no more is the opportunity for the exact polar opposite 683 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 3: because that means they want that. There's a whole group 684 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 3: of people that says, we heard all of that already. 685 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 3: You gotta be creative and fresh. You know that was 686 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 3: the DMX like Puffy was killing it, killing it, but 687 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 3: we can't outshine Puffy. He's a shiny nigga, that's right, 688 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 3: shout out ho your head boy, but you can't outshine him. 689 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: It was like I got X. 690 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 3: Do that. That's right, And that's the polar opposite effect. 691 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 3: So you gotta realize that is still true to this 692 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 3: day in business and everything. When you see something saturated, 693 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 3: which one way the flip the polar eye city is 694 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 3: a huge open potential if you know how to finesse it. 695 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: Yes, and then y'all did it with Ashanti Bro, Like 696 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: think about it. You didn't really hear that many. 697 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 2: And it was remixes to R and B records where 698 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 2: DJs would throw the rap you know. 699 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 3: Okay, so that's Earth DJ Earth. See if you go 700 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 3: back to Earth, you go back to DJ Earth. There 701 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 3: used to be lines around the block waiting for his mixtape. 702 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 3: That's crazy, nobullshit, every drug dealer all in Queens. Everyone 703 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 3: was coming to get DJ Erth Volume one, dj Erth Volume. 704 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: Two, and I told her never sell it. You know 705 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: that niggas greedy, and. 706 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 3: I said, never sell those tapes. Let's keep the mask. 707 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 708 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 3: I might have one tape left out of like one 709 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 3: hundred and some Djrth Volume one hundred and. 710 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: Twenty or something, and that's crazy. 711 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 2: Anybody got some DJ Earth tapes, man, bring them to 712 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 2: the table on the air m please. 713 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 3: But he was what he did in those tapes. He 714 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 3: was blending again hip hop beats with R and B acapellas. 715 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 3: That's why I said, that's the only way you heard 716 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 3: him on the ron G tapes, you know what I. 717 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: Mean, the. 718 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 3: Pioneers, and he brought it to real music and he 719 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 3: was a battle DJ. So I would take him battle. 720 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 3: And that's how we actually got blessed Carl Clark Kent. 721 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: That's how we met up. Clark Clark Union Square. Earth 722 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: went up there to battle. Brooklyn's in the house had effect. 723 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 3: I thought we was gonna go crazy, and then we 724 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 3: got into a little bit of stuff for nothing. 725 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: Crazy, but you know this is real. 726 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 3: I still got the flyers because we had our queens, 727 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 3: Rapper Romeo and Golf, Other Noise, Roselle Deep he was 728 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 3: part of Earth's cruise, Romeo, Rosselle and Earth and we 729 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 3: went and battle and they all won and we it's 730 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 3: just a few of the queens and then Brooklyn. It 731 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 3: was a Brooklyn house and you Square, come on, you 732 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 3: know what's right, yo ship y'all brought DJ Clark Kent 733 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 3: is why I will tell you we probably didn't get 734 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 3: into more. 735 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: He respected her that day because Earth beat him Earth away. 736 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: Yeah it's a fact. This is a fact. 737 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 3: And he respected them and basically kept the wolves quiet. 738 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 3: You know, we ready, but we out numbered out. It 739 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 3: was in the difference we out man like fucking Ikonnelly 740 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,240 Speaker 3: came through with y'all too, Yeah through, Like look. 741 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 2: At Nelly, I wanted that records man. Now got the 742 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 2: biggest strip club fucking insane. 743 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: What it takes. 744 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 3: Yes, it's creativity though, That's what you gotta understand. I 745 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 3: learned so much ship from just being a fly on 746 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 3: the wall, watching, listening some of the conversations that I heard. 747 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 3: You know, I was right there sitting in the background 748 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 3: right behind Earth. He's doing his talking, But the people 749 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 3: he's talking to from Leo, even with Jay J used 750 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,879 Speaker 3: to be waiting in my office to talk to them. 751 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Just to like different moves 752 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 3: he's gonna make from a musical standpoints sort of respect. 753 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 3: You know, he's always did and respected his ear and 754 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 3: his vision. That's right and boom, got it gone. 755 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 756 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 2: Fucking leading to that. Man, you being the observer and 757 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 2: listening and watching that leads to you. 758 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: Doing the movies. Man, tell me about that. You said 759 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: you got a movie out now called Balling, Right. Yes, 760 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: Lane Stevenson is my lead Lance, the homie he got 761 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:24,760 Speaker 1: versus and he got balled. 762 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 3: I do the whole soundtrack for the movie with no 763 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,879 Speaker 3: way shout out Ricky oh yo. 764 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 1: Let's say she y'all got a joint. That joint. 765 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 3: I think Earth produced the first joint yeah, that's on 766 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 3: one of my playlists. Bro, come on, man, listen you 767 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:40,479 Speaker 3: heard that, Ricky. 768 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, we gotta get up there. That's a fact. 769 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: Like we I remember I just after this. I just 770 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: was away with Joe for his birthday. I'm playing. 771 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 2: He like, yo, play one of your playlists. I'm in 772 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 2: Rocket and the ship came on. He's like, let me 773 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 2: find out. I'm like, you know, I fucked with the 774 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 2: fans if it's dope. 775 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 3: Ricky is a talent. Yeah, but you know that's a 776 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 3: whole nother conversation. She does her crochete. She just got 777 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 3: like stuff to bad Bunny like. 778 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: Man, that's dope. Man got blest. 779 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 3: Shout out Shaboozi reposted everything again. She's super talented. I 780 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 3: gotta look at you, laced, I get you. 781 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 1: Some shit man. Yeah for sure, let's do it. 782 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,800 Speaker 3: But you know we go in that zone man, and 783 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 3: everything just flowed from the movie. My partner Rich Black 784 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 3: and Andy and try to shout both for them. Rich 785 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 3: wrote the movie. He was asking me to do it 786 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 3: for years, over year and a half, almost two years. 787 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 3: She's like, yo, I got this movie, and I was like, yeah, 788 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 3: I'm not ready yet. 789 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: You know, I get to you, and then one day 790 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: I just reached out. I was like, Yo, what's up. 791 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:43,800 Speaker 1: Let me see this movie. Let's go. 792 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 3: I think I got everything set up, dope man, and 793 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 3: he was like, let's shoot it. So we went out 794 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 3: shot in Miami seventeen days. Shouted it would have been 795 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,720 Speaker 3: even faster. Shout out ever my director first time. 796 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 1: You know ever? Seventeen days. Damn, that's quick. 797 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it could be. I'm telling you. The only way 798 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 3: to do these types of films is fast. 799 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 1: You gotta turn them over. Yeah, and right now I'm 800 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 1: dealing with distribution. 801 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,240 Speaker 3: I'm working on distribution because without the proper distribution channels, 802 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 3: it's very hard to get your money. 803 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 1: See two B. I know people that made means off too. 804 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,320 Speaker 3: Yes, that was early to be. Once Fox are quieted, 805 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 3: the game changed. It's still the best place for black content. 806 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,439 Speaker 1: That's right for any up and coming. 807 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 3: They got over one hundred and ten million on that 808 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 3: fucking channel that watched black film. But the reality is 809 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 3: they're not giving the deals out to come say, and 810 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 3: their CPM is super low. 811 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:38,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you got the product, that's worth it, 812 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 2: because you can't just give it's too many. 813 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: We was not going for five weeks. 814 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 2: I feel like in all perspectives of entertainment is oversaturated. 815 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 1: So how do you weed out who's real again you 816 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:54,720 Speaker 1: speaking my language? 817 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 2: Who's faking it? Because you can't just give everybody the 818 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 2: money and hope. And so that's why these when when. 819 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,399 Speaker 3: You talk of music, it's called the music business. Yes, 820 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 3: music is half businesses have you gotta make it, marry 821 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 3: each other, and then that's when you have such. 822 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 2: I feel like because even in this space right like 823 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 2: people look at it like, yo, you get the deal, 824 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 2: nor reding them you did the deal? I heard you 825 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 2: got doe to yo, y'all cashing out, and it's like, yo, bro, No, 826 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 2: you got to put in the work. The numbers have 827 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 2: to speak, you need you need a track record to 828 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 2: go sell so people can buy into. They're not just 829 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 2: gonna buy into because you you opened up the stores, 830 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 2: Like yo, what if you. 831 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 1: Fall off next week? 832 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 3: Probably in a lot of similar type of conversations because 833 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 3: they think because your history, you just. 834 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 1: Yep, you're good. No, it's like, yo, it's still a process. 835 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 1: We're still working. We gotta earn it. 836 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 3: Yes, like every day is here you just say this 837 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 3: is what your third podcast today. You know what I'm saying, 838 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,839 Speaker 3: You're working, bro. At the end of the day, the work. 839 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 3: You cannot short the work man, and the process is 840 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,359 Speaker 3: you can't cheat the process. I said, if you want 841 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 3: money overnight, the only thing I know is a lot 842 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 3: on nigga good that's right, good luck. 843 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 1: I don't know how to hit lot on them good 844 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,800 Speaker 1: luck word up. Neither do I. So I'm gonna go 845 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 1: put in my work. 846 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 3: And consistency is part of what you have to be 847 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 3: because of the saturation, that's right. So I tell all 848 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,359 Speaker 3: my independent artists, you know I have. I got tens 849 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 3: of thousand of independent artists on my platform, Adventure Music. 850 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 3: But I tell you we're going to talk about the 851 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 3: shot out Adventures. I'm building some new ship for it. 852 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 3: I really don't want to expose it, but I'm just 853 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 3: letting you know it's coming. But the consistency, I look 854 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,760 Speaker 3: at music, let's use me and you could use this podcast. 855 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 3: Podcast is like one of the most emerging booming industries. Yes, 856 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 3: once it started and everybody jumped in and everyone's doing it, 857 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 3: and everyone's trying to get their podcasts and they streaming 858 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 3: numbers and everything. 859 00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 1: All good. 860 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 3: We accept all COMPETI issue all the smoke, that's right, 861 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 3: all the smoke you heard me stacks. 862 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:08,399 Speaker 1: Shut. 863 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 3: Consistency is the difference you factor in my opinion, because. 864 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:20,840 Speaker 1: If you don't feed. 865 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,720 Speaker 3: Them, let's let's let's let's use I like to always 866 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 3: like dumb everything down so anyone understands, simplify, let's use 867 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 3: this podcast show as food. You're feeding people with information 868 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 3: from me and yourself and whoever your guests are. And 869 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 3: that's why they're gonna tune in. It's entertaining, that's fool. 870 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 3: If you don't feed them, they're gonna go eat somewhere else. 871 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 1: That's simple. Just they're gonna find the next best item 872 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:45,400 Speaker 1: on the man. 873 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,280 Speaker 3: And I said, the only ones they get a chance 874 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 3: to basically fast you right, make you fast for that 875 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 3: content is the ones that's already at the time, not 876 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 3: the new up and coming guy. Look at the guy 877 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 3: that was at the top, and look at their track record, 878 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 3: and you're gonna see how much work they put in 879 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 3: to get there. And don't don't discount that. Understand that 880 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 3: there's no cheat code, there's no you can't treat the game. 881 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 3: You can only play the game. You can never treat 882 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 3: the game. You can only play the game. Never had 883 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 3: a problem with rolling my sleeves up and getting the 884 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 3: work that bro it don't matter what and. 885 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 2: Me, I'm the type of person I never had a 886 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 2: problem with even if the W ain't looking promising for me, 887 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,759 Speaker 2: but it's looking promising for you. We're gonna push you 888 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 2: to get you the W because when you win, gonna 889 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 2: make it easier for me to win, because now I 890 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 2: can pick off to us fighting. 891 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 3: We all, we got all, we got, we all, we 892 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 3: got God every time, you know we we mentioned. I 893 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 3: just shot a movie. We was talking the movies. 894 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:53,920 Speaker 1: You're back. 895 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,400 Speaker 3: I'm gonna just go back to that for a second, 896 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 3: because we just shot a Spanish fly movie. I'm not Latino. 897 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 3: My mother's black. My father was Trinidad in Filipino. That's 898 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 3: my lineage. 899 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 1: That's right. 900 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,760 Speaker 3: At the end of the day, I got a partner. 901 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,439 Speaker 3: Don de Niro and Oscar you know what I'm saying, 902 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,360 Speaker 3: both gia times and they're very influenced you in the 903 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 3: Latino community. Don was a big artist at one point, 904 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 3: independent artists. First, he was the first rapper in really 905 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 3: in Spanish music back then. Desert calls him, des calls 906 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 3: him was calling him the Latin jay Z. Go ahead 907 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,360 Speaker 3: and check it out. You add, I'm telling you no 908 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,879 Speaker 3: bullshit and one knows him everyone, But that was back then. 909 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:40,319 Speaker 3: Then he evolved and everything. But then my Latin divisions 910 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 3: because the growth of the Latin communities, we. 911 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 1: Can't say, go get them. 912 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 3: Go get a globe and look at all the Latin 913 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 3: American countries and then you start understanding why the growth 914 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 3: is like that, and then you put into the fact 915 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,400 Speaker 3: that they're not being serviced. So I was when I 916 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,360 Speaker 3: started adventures. I started a division ten years ago. This 917 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 3: is way before any of this started. I was in 918 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,879 Speaker 3: front of this movement. So and I have it now 919 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 3: in film. So we did a movie called Spanish Flys 920 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:18,399 Speaker 3: called It's all Latino like actors, comedians, big names. Yeah right, 921 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 3: and they all did it for nothing. See that's what 922 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 3: because they know they all they got. 923 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:24,960 Speaker 1: That's what. 924 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,840 Speaker 3: The whole reason I'm talking about that is because I 925 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 3: watched the Latin community come in all the best directing people, 926 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 3: that's the production people telling Denio whatever you want, I'm here. 927 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:41,279 Speaker 1: That's right. I want to be part of this. If 928 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,360 Speaker 1: it wasn't about money, everybody, but it wasn't about money. 929 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:44,879 Speaker 1: That's about. 930 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 3: They just wanted to help and be part of it. 931 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,240 Speaker 3: And that's what we have to get as a community's people. 932 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 1: Right because if he win, we all win. Yes, it's 933 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,800 Speaker 1: the village. Oh man, we all win. That's it. But 934 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,439 Speaker 1: you know that's another dope movie. 935 00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:01,440 Speaker 3: We just finished and we shot that eight days eight days. 936 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 1: Man, I gotta come. I gotta pop out on one 937 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:04,319 Speaker 1: of these. 938 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:09,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know we're gonna gonna get last acting. I 939 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 3: get my skills shop and. 940 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:11,880 Speaker 1: It's no problem. 941 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 3: I show you how to do it, like I really 942 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 3: have a system that I developed for like influencers. You're 943 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 3: an influencer. I'm not just taking John Dues nothing. Because 944 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 3: today I gotta get an audience to watch my film. 945 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,920 Speaker 1: That's a fact. If you're in the film, you'll be here. Yo. 946 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:30,759 Speaker 1: Make sure you watch my film. That's right. 947 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 3: What's needed if you're doing it independent. 948 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:34,800 Speaker 2: Even if you just text me and tell me the 949 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,239 Speaker 2: film is out, yo, listen, make sure y'all go check 950 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 2: out Balling where they can find it at to be. 951 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 3: Right now and a ton of other places. 952 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,400 Speaker 1: Amazon, It's gonna be all over, that's right. 953 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,359 Speaker 2: Spanish flyers right now on tub And I'm not even 954 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 2: in the movie. But this is my motherfucking brother. So 955 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 2: I'm gonna promote you. So if the movie I'm in, 956 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you right now, you might get a 957 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,440 Speaker 2: flyer on the windshield of your car. 958 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:02,760 Speaker 1: So you see this fly back bleak in the movie. Baby, 959 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 1: Yeah no, but. 960 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,240 Speaker 3: They I'm telling you, that's why I picked the cast 961 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,319 Speaker 3: of How I Did It. You gotta have, you can't get. 962 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 3: I looked at movies in a different perspective again, and 963 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,319 Speaker 3: I looked at like I love let's say, Morris Chess 964 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 3: now takes. These are incredible acts, blackhead of me. I 965 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,800 Speaker 3: could never All Right, here's the question, how many people 966 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 3: if I had them in the movie, how much do 967 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,479 Speaker 3: I have to pay them? And then how many people 968 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,759 Speaker 3: they get to go watch it? See that all comes 969 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 3: with a tag. When they established like they are, they're 970 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:32,799 Speaker 3: not knocking them. 971 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:33,360 Speaker 1: It's just the. 972 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:37,359 Speaker 3: Business they're in it now they almost priced themselves out. Yes, 973 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,920 Speaker 3: you understand, they're really great actors. 974 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 1: Both of them. 975 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,280 Speaker 3: I fuck with both of them hard, you know, posts 976 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, they're both great actors. 977 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,319 Speaker 3: But they'll want more money than I could afford at 978 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 3: this level. And then they're not gonna work as hard 979 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:54,960 Speaker 3: because then they're gonna want even more money from the 980 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,320 Speaker 3: marketing side. But if I go get these influencers that 981 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:02,879 Speaker 3: want a chance to be actors or these following, they're 982 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 3: gonna push the movie for me. They're gonna help market 983 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,880 Speaker 3: the movie, and they're gonna give people that's curious another 984 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 3: part of you know this. Me and like we had 985 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,640 Speaker 3: a lot of different philosophies, and one of them was 986 00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 3: curiosity killed the cat. So a new artist with slayer 987 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,640 Speaker 3: old artists. Right, I brought a new artist in the game. 988 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 3: You're curious to see or hear his story. So that 989 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 3: gave us an upside on that. So that's how I 990 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 3: look at the same thing, that curiosity I wanted. That 991 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,160 Speaker 3: curiosity of Damn Lance is in the movie. 992 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 1: He could act. Yeah, wait a minute, he got a 993 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:39,920 Speaker 1: whole soundtrack, he could wrap. He's really the Black Drake, Yo. 994 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 3: He's spending drake. Though I ain't heard enough new promise you. 995 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,840 Speaker 3: I just can't stand. I'm not understandings. When I can't stand, 996 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:49,920 Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you why I say what I'm saying. 997 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:52,280 Speaker 1: He could make R and B hooks. 998 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,360 Speaker 3: That's why I say I told you he's come in 999 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,719 Speaker 3: the studio. Why he just saying job rule, Come on, 1000 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:03,480 Speaker 3: he job man. All these niggas is John straight up man, 1001 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 3: you could singing rap man, you jock. Because it was 1002 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,000 Speaker 3: a time I was jealous of this nigga. You're hitting 1003 00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 3: me in the studio. Think about it. 1004 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 2: When gott He produced my joint Infatuated. I'm sitting there, 1005 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:18,840 Speaker 2: he like, yo, bleak, we need a hook. I'm like, 1006 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,720 Speaker 2: all right, call your man. 1007 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,800 Speaker 3: Court John, nigga, the fuck I don't sing hook masks. 1008 00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jack came through, wrote the Infatuated hook in five seconds. 1009 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 2: We got shout out the homie boxy BJ. Yeah it 1010 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 2: was BJ artists at the time, sung the hook and 1011 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,399 Speaker 2: we got it done. But that's what I'm saying, man 1012 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,880 Speaker 2: like all that. He was the first I saw do 1013 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,480 Speaker 2: it many straight up. Listen, you could say bone Thugs 1014 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 2: was part of it, but they different. Yeah, they were 1015 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,480 Speaker 2: more harmony. They were more harmonizing and singer. 1016 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,759 Speaker 1: Take it to a different place. Mass a solo act 1017 00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:54,399 Speaker 1: doing both. 1018 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 3: Bro. I used to tell that nigga, who fuck you 1019 00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 3: think you is? Usher and Jay together, Come on, man, 1020 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 3: you cheat eat and dog can't do that. Then you 1021 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 3: got muscles. 1022 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:04,680 Speaker 1: Come on. 1023 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, we used to make jokes, push ups. The next year, 1024 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:09,920 Speaker 3: everything's popping out. 1025 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,440 Speaker 2: Like if Drake was these like Joe taking his shirt off, 1026 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,520 Speaker 2: it'll be unfair, be crazy, it be unfair. 1027 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:20,920 Speaker 1: But really Lance could do that. Though I heard one 1028 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:21,840 Speaker 1: song on the Joint. 1029 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:27,040 Speaker 3: Bawling soundtrack it I promise you're gonna be able to 1030 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 3: hit the play and listen to every joint like definitely, 1031 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,759 Speaker 3: because when I did this thing, I was only thinking 1032 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,759 Speaker 3: I gonna make a record or two just to put 1033 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,640 Speaker 3: in the movie, not the whole soundtrack. 1034 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,360 Speaker 1: So we're going to street, go to Circle House in Miami. 1035 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:41,719 Speaker 1: Spot never. 1036 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,160 Speaker 3: Lance never been in a big studio. He's like, man, 1037 00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,640 Speaker 3: I'm always making my wraps in the kitchen or something, 1038 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 3: so he never. Then I bring in my producer, shout 1039 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,880 Speaker 3: out Nary, Narry Boy or Beast Miami comes in. 1040 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,200 Speaker 1: He chefed whatever you want up and the idea Circle 1041 00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:57,520 Speaker 1: House down there ruined my life. 1042 00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,359 Speaker 3: But God, so he get all of this and he's 1043 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,800 Speaker 3: seeing all of the ship. I'm bringing y d another 1044 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,040 Speaker 3: dope nigga out there, you know what I'm saying, And 1045 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 3: we just started making records. 1046 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,040 Speaker 1: That's dope. But he kept wrapper I'm gonna keep it 1047 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:10,399 Speaker 1: the buck. 1048 00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,840 Speaker 3: He's the reason because he kept pushing me, come on 1049 00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,040 Speaker 3: to give more studio, more to you, because this is 1050 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,960 Speaker 3: when ever went to go do something with Mary J. Blige, 1051 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,239 Speaker 3: my director. So I had a little downtown were going 1052 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,680 Speaker 3: right there, boom boom boom. Less than a week, we 1053 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:26,960 Speaker 3: had like eighteen joints. 1054 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,320 Speaker 1: That's dope. Now he was working, that's dope. He was working. 1055 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,839 Speaker 1: My niece. My niece, she's there pinning with him. They 1056 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,520 Speaker 1: vibing together. They got hit records on that soundcheck. I 1057 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,480 Speaker 1: believe it. I'm gonna go check it out. You said 1058 00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,919 Speaker 1: Drake is black dough, but he is the black girl Drake. 1059 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:47,880 Speaker 1: That's what I mean. That's what I mean. 1060 00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,839 Speaker 3: Black drizzy, shut out drizzy too. 1061 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,239 Speaker 1: Man. You know what I'm saying. Your word up right. 1062 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:59,000 Speaker 1: It's smoky out here. It's crazy. It's smoky for niggas. 1063 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,080 Speaker 2: I gotta but you would be able to see listen, 1064 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:07,439 Speaker 2: you with a perfect segue for the things that he's 1065 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:12,240 Speaker 2: dealing with, you know what I mean, the public, the media. 1066 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,759 Speaker 2: What advice would you give him because y'all been through it. 1067 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,680 Speaker 3: You know he got Jay Prince behind him too, So 1068 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,520 Speaker 3: shout out. The Prince fe his birthday just passed out. 1069 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,239 Speaker 3: I missed you, bro, I can catch you out. I'm 1070 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,239 Speaker 3: gonna go to his island. You know he owns a 1071 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,640 Speaker 3: couple of islands. No way, I ain't know that in belief, 1072 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:29,640 Speaker 3: he owns two islands. 1073 00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 1: In belief, I ain't know that. That's dope, man, I 1074 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:37,879 Speaker 1: ain't dope. That's fire superfied is yes, dope. 1075 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,320 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go out there and fuck with him. I 1076 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,640 Speaker 3: just told him, I said. I asked him one question. 1077 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,320 Speaker 3: I said, what's the law of these islands? Is it 1078 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:45,919 Speaker 3: prince law? Yeah? 1079 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,799 Speaker 1: Prince, I said, okay, I know how to come now, 1080 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:55,560 Speaker 1: bring in my strap facts. But you know all of 1081 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,520 Speaker 1: these things. But you're gonna hear his his range. 1082 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:03,440 Speaker 3: You know, when you're an artist, probably most artists is 1083 00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:07,360 Speaker 3: insecure when it's time to release music because they stay safe. 1084 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,279 Speaker 3: They stay in their box. And the one thing I 1085 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:11,880 Speaker 3: kept telling is, don't be afraid. 1086 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,360 Speaker 1: If you hear it, do it. We're in the studio. 1087 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,520 Speaker 3: You don't like it, we don't play for nobody. That's 1088 00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,920 Speaker 3: the place you supposed to try everything, your free space. 1089 00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:24,080 Speaker 3: That's when you might find something to change the game. 1090 00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,680 Speaker 1: That you ain't even know. You didn't even know you had. 1091 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:27,920 Speaker 1: That's a fact, yo. 1092 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,680 Speaker 2: One thing I always say, man, gott He gave me 1093 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,080 Speaker 2: the best advice man when it come to making records. 1094 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,239 Speaker 2: I think to this day I apply it and this 1095 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:36,759 Speaker 2: is why I make records. I could go in the 1096 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,600 Speaker 2: studio and knock out two three records because Gotty used 1097 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,920 Speaker 2: to always say, why you spending so much time on 1098 00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:46,280 Speaker 2: the verse. You ain't gonna say nothing that Biggie Nae 1099 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 2: j Upac, They ain't say already. You just gonna try 1100 00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,719 Speaker 2: to find a new way to spend it, Nigga. They 1101 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,000 Speaker 2: only gonna remember the hook. 1102 00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,480 Speaker 1: That's right. So long as the hook is hot, just 1103 00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,160 Speaker 1: stay on top and get it done. On to the 1104 00:51:59,239 --> 00:51:59,680 Speaker 1: next record. 1105 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,480 Speaker 3: When the verses damn there was written, they write theyself, 1106 00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:04,320 Speaker 3: it's crazy. 1107 00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:04,960 Speaker 1: It's crazy. 1108 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,720 Speaker 2: Once you have the chorus the verses down there right, theyself, 1109 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,879 Speaker 2: bro like, it's like you don't even think. 1110 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,320 Speaker 3: My favorite, one of my favorite, uh irv got He 1111 00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,440 Speaker 3: producing one of them is like produce as a producers. 1112 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:20,960 Speaker 3: When we did Halla, Holler and we again Jay, we 1113 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:22,919 Speaker 3: gave Jay to cant I get it so we didn't 1114 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,480 Speaker 3: have to for the movie. The soundtrack and everything, so 1115 00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,400 Speaker 3: we didn't have a first single from each other. I 1116 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,560 Speaker 3: found a beat one of my producers, I call IRV. 1117 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 1: Yo, I got it. Yeah yeah, So he's a come 1118 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:36,560 Speaker 1: to the studio. 1119 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,880 Speaker 3: We had electric Lady. They had an Electric Lady. I 1120 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,320 Speaker 3: go in there and he gives y'all to puts the 1121 00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:41,759 Speaker 3: beat up. 1122 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,399 Speaker 1: He's like, this is it. This is hard yo. He goes. 1123 00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,480 Speaker 3: Irv's like, that's like because he didn't hear it. I 1124 00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,239 Speaker 3: just told my got it and get yo. That's hard yo. 1125 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:54,320 Speaker 3: Come on, John, he said, on this record, don't start 1126 00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:58,799 Speaker 3: with the verses the hook. Write the hook, and John 1127 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:00,960 Speaker 3: was like okay, went and wrote hook wasn't it. 1128 00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:02,200 Speaker 1: It was like, that's not it. 1129 00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,759 Speaker 3: Now again, these artists today got to be produced and 1130 00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:12,520 Speaker 3: accept the criticism of the opinion of that producer to 1131 00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,759 Speaker 3: help them make the best record possible. Right. He came 1132 00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:19,839 Speaker 3: out with another hook, that's not it, And I give 1133 00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,279 Speaker 3: Joe all the credit because it was no ego that 1134 00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,680 Speaker 3: no it ain't it. Go He came out and it's like, 1135 00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:28,719 Speaker 3: I got it. I'm gonna double up this. He didn't 1136 00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,680 Speaker 3: have it, but he understood the concept. He wrote was 1137 00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,520 Speaker 3: like go write it. He wrote it versus done like this. 1138 00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,160 Speaker 3: It was like the record was made already, yo. And 1139 00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,200 Speaker 3: that's three verses, sixteen balls these verse like that's back 1140 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,000 Speaker 3: then when you had to do three verses. 1141 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,279 Speaker 1: Those verses was written like this. Now niggas is writing 1142 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:51,000 Speaker 1: one verse a minute eighteen seconds of the song. I 1143 00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:51,920 Speaker 1: started cheating with. 1144 00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:54,840 Speaker 3: There's one of my homies. I'm gonna give him a 1145 00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:59,120 Speaker 3: plug right now. He's from Compton. You know what I'm saying, terminated? 1146 00:53:59,160 --> 00:53:59,480 Speaker 1: What up? 1147 00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,799 Speaker 3: And you know I told him I want to make 1148 00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,520 Speaker 3: an album with him because he has a voice and 1149 00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,560 Speaker 3: he tells a story that you're gonna believe every word 1150 00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:12,480 Speaker 3: he says. It's a different it's a different feeling from everything. 1151 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,600 Speaker 3: But he don't make records. He makes a verse in 1152 00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:16,719 Speaker 3: a hood, not even really hard. He gives you a 1153 00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,680 Speaker 3: little something and in that verse out and he's done 1154 00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,040 Speaker 3: because he's really against and he's only doing it. 1155 00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,880 Speaker 2: That's fun, Yo, That's how the boss boss Man d 1156 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,479 Speaker 2: Loo songs is. You be like this, yo, shiit hard, 1157 00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,960 Speaker 2: this ship fires and it shit go off like what 1158 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,319 Speaker 2: the fuck? Like the wait I got? Did I get 1159 00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:40,080 Speaker 2: the I gotta download the real version? Like I shouldn't 1160 00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,520 Speaker 2: have been in twenty seconds. Let me play this shiit 1161 00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:44,120 Speaker 2: seventeen times in the road. 1162 00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:49,040 Speaker 1: That don't help change the game. You gotta everyone. He 1163 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,000 Speaker 1: said that. He's like, Yo, think about it. 1164 00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,479 Speaker 2: When you listen to the radio, boss Man Di Loo said, 1165 00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,759 Speaker 2: when you listen to the radio and they on the 1166 00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:57,759 Speaker 2: mixed show the d you only play about a good 1167 00:54:58,239 --> 00:54:59,880 Speaker 2: forty seconds of the record anyway. 1168 00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,759 Speaker 1: So if it's hot, you're gonna bring that shit back. 1169 00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:04,080 Speaker 1: That's it, Which is right? 1170 00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,200 Speaker 3: And when he said that, I was like, And then 1171 00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,120 Speaker 3: I said, the way we do videos, I got a 1172 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:09,760 Speaker 3: different concept. 1173 00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,040 Speaker 1: I don't give everybody everything because term might do it. 1174 00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,399 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's a different way to shoot the video. 1175 00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:16,600 Speaker 1: Fat you know what I'm saying. 1176 00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:21,279 Speaker 3: Because he's talking real shit. It's almost against cinematic shit. Yeah, 1177 00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:25,400 Speaker 3: come out on some cinematic shit, bro, It'll be just 1178 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,760 Speaker 3: a different looking field. When I look at all these videos, 1179 00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:29,520 Speaker 3: they just trying to get it done because they lower 1180 00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:31,719 Speaker 3: the budgets now and everyone's trying to do it for 1181 00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,480 Speaker 3: cheap and shasible, And that's why the game is suffering 1182 00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:37,440 Speaker 3: in my opinion, you know, because. 1183 00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:40,040 Speaker 2: Everybody cutting budgets, but it's they don't got the money. 1184 00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,000 Speaker 2: No more, man, the money ain't coming in like it 1185 00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,160 Speaker 2: was when we had it in that early two thousands. 1186 00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,600 Speaker 1: Bro that that that digital. I think these labels understand 1187 00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,680 Speaker 1: how to get that digital money. You know, they get 1188 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:51,480 Speaker 1: more money. 1189 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:55,280 Speaker 3: From like sponsors and brands, so it kind of offset 1190 00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,520 Speaker 3: some of the mechanical sale that we had with the 1191 00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,440 Speaker 3: expense is way less. If you, I don't want to 1192 00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,080 Speaker 3: say it's not doing good that the labels are still around. No, No, 1193 00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,319 Speaker 3: the music for a reason. These kids, because they make 1194 00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,200 Speaker 3: the three sixty's always there to merging and. 1195 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,080 Speaker 1: It's not off the records. So I got you. No, 1196 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:14,520 Speaker 1: it's not off the sale. 1197 00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,880 Speaker 3: But there's again, I know the stream is they're gonna 1198 00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,359 Speaker 3: have to do something like I'm doing with the TV, 1199 00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:24,280 Speaker 3: the movies and TVs where the distribution has to be different, 1200 00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:26,640 Speaker 3: you know, shout out. 1201 00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:30,760 Speaker 2: Rock Nation Distro. They just want somewhere you free to everybody. 1202 00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,239 Speaker 2: Eighty five fifteen split. They said they got a phenomenal 1203 00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,480 Speaker 2: like social media thing that you was telling me that matter. 1204 00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:41,680 Speaker 1: I'm about that. You said, it's no perfect segue. You 1205 00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:45,640 Speaker 1: can break it on now listening. I was early over 1206 00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,560 Speaker 1: there when it was equity and Christian. 1207 00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,640 Speaker 3: With shout out Christian, you know I'm gonna keep it. 1208 00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:53,719 Speaker 3: I'm gonna keep it a bucket og No. I was 1209 00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,360 Speaker 3: mad we didn't get it together because they they wanted 1210 00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,560 Speaker 3: to do something. They know I had adventure music, and 1211 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:00,720 Speaker 3: they was like, let's figure something out. They was picking 1212 00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,320 Speaker 3: my brain on what's the problems. And me and O 1213 00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:07,000 Speaker 3: G had a meeting and he said it's really his sons. 1214 00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,880 Speaker 3: And you know, he says, he says, you got to 1215 00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:12,440 Speaker 3: talk to him. I said, well, he could ask me 1216 00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,560 Speaker 3: whatever questions and I answer to prove that I'm not playing. 1217 00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,320 Speaker 3: So we had that meeting and I answered every question 1218 00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,400 Speaker 3: and more and Christian was like yes to everything, and 1219 00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,280 Speaker 3: I looking at one like okay, let's figure this shit out. 1220 00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,720 Speaker 3: But we never figured it out. That's something that I 1221 00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:31,400 Speaker 3: don't I get mad at because the time in if 1222 00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,280 Speaker 3: we're white, we do it, yes, right, That's the part 1223 00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,760 Speaker 3: that I don't ever understand and ship is like, if 1224 00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,480 Speaker 3: we're white, we do it. I told Steve Stout that, 1225 00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,920 Speaker 3: you know, Irvin Stout was in the second grade together. 1226 00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,360 Speaker 1: Damn, I ain't know that we played. I used to play. 1227 00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,200 Speaker 3: Football with him in the cage. Come to the parks, 1228 00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:47,520 Speaker 3: you know. 1229 00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:52,640 Speaker 1: Man, that's crazy. That's crazy man. Now niggas kicked his 1230 00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:53,520 Speaker 1: ship over the fence. 1231 00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:55,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, be crazy shit. 1232 00:57:55,200 --> 00:58:00,800 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, crazy ship. 1233 00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:03,080 Speaker 3: You know, at the end of the day, I said, 1234 00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,080 Speaker 3: because he was the very first one to come to 1235 00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:06,080 Speaker 3: me for Adventures. 1236 00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:08,680 Speaker 1: When I start Adventures, He's like, what are you doing 1237 00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:12,800 Speaker 1: over it? Before he starts his United Mass know what 1238 00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:13,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying. 1239 00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,240 Speaker 3: We all family like, And I said, Steve, I'll shut 1240 00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,000 Speaker 3: this down to funk with you, because when I wrote 1241 00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:21,760 Speaker 3: my business plan, this is how real it is for Adventures. 1242 00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,120 Speaker 3: What do I need to be successful? After I wrote it, 1243 00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:30,160 Speaker 3: first thing, I put Steve style because I know what 1244 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,520 Speaker 3: I need. I just don't want to give the game up. 1245 00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:34,360 Speaker 3: I know how to change this game and get it right. 1246 00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:35,800 Speaker 1: That's right. I just need someone to. 1247 00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,360 Speaker 3: Fuck with me because I can't walk in the doors. 1248 00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:39,360 Speaker 3: They don't fuck with me. 1249 00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,120 Speaker 1: They do. You just know the doors that I'm talking about. 1250 00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,040 Speaker 3: They're scared that the history you never leave your They 1251 00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:50,640 Speaker 3: never get once you say, because they want to know 1252 00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:51,280 Speaker 3: your background. 1253 00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:55,120 Speaker 1: You say it from that right away. See, people don't 1254 00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,600 Speaker 1: know that unless you live it. I live in it. 1255 00:58:58,720 --> 00:58:59,840 Speaker 1: I understand my problems. 1256 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,600 Speaker 3: If I can't go to my family and friends once 1257 00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:07,080 Speaker 3: you stamp, shout and and try to again, it's one 1258 00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:12,320 Speaker 3: of my partners, he accepted, He understood. I don't look 1259 00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:13,800 Speaker 3: at it as a badge of shame. I said, this 1260 00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,160 Speaker 3: is a badger of honor. Most of those most of 1261 00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,800 Speaker 3: those white boys that have those executive jobs. 1262 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:20,000 Speaker 1: Went through white collar crimes. 1263 00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:23,640 Speaker 3: And guess what they did, know they told and they 1264 00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:25,960 Speaker 3: still there and they still move like it's all good 1265 00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:27,440 Speaker 3: and it's no man. 1266 00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:31,080 Speaker 2: If anybody looking at crime, America has built a crime, Yeah, 1267 00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:32,280 Speaker 2: a country is built. 1268 00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:32,880 Speaker 1: Of course. 1269 00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:35,200 Speaker 3: If you don't know that you are you, you're in 1270 00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:38,360 Speaker 3: the wrong place and live in space. But that's my 1271 00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,160 Speaker 3: that's part of my plight that I got to walk 1272 00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,880 Speaker 3: to that man. But you know, Earth went through the watch. 1273 00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,800 Speaker 3: Earth went there, and I'm gonna give Jay a big 1274 00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:51,000 Speaker 3: shout out because he Earth started tails. Remember two. 1275 00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,680 Speaker 1: So here's a meeting me and working on that. 1276 00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. There we have a whole meeting and all of 1277 00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,680 Speaker 3: this ship about tales and and we get a meeting 1278 01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,960 Speaker 3: with Steven Hill who runs BT at the time, and 1279 01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:09,960 Speaker 3: Jay's with him, IRV and J and IRV is pitching 1280 01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:13,000 Speaker 3: to get a pilot, just a pilot, give me the 1281 01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:16,160 Speaker 3: money from BT to show you how powerful this TV 1282 01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,760 Speaker 3: show is and it's dope. So he pitched to Steve. 1283 01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:23,240 Speaker 3: Steve turned to J like, I'll never forget this shit 1284 01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:25,600 Speaker 3: like and I give credit in flowers where he's due. 1285 01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,400 Speaker 3: But if there's something foul, I say foul shit too, 1286 01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:30,880 Speaker 3: like the truth is the truth, and I'll never take 1287 01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:34,560 Speaker 3: it away, never take it away. Because Jay, being who 1288 01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:38,200 Speaker 3: he is with my brother, turns to Steve. Stephen Hill says, 1289 01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:41,680 Speaker 3: what would you do to J? Jay looked at him, 1290 01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:43,320 Speaker 3: and he looked at Irvan, and he looked at Steve 1291 01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,760 Speaker 3: again and said, I'll give him whatever he wants and 1292 01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:46,560 Speaker 3: get out his way. 1293 01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:47,320 Speaker 1: That's right. 1294 01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:51,360 Speaker 3: And didn't get a pilot deal. He got an eight 1295 01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:56,880 Speaker 3: show season because Jay said that I can never act 1296 01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:58,680 Speaker 3: like if he was here, he could never act like 1297 01:00:58,760 --> 01:00:59,520 Speaker 3: that didn't happen. 1298 01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:01,480 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying now, whole. 1299 01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:06,439 Speaker 3: Dude, unbelieved, unbelievable behind the scenes that he don't even 1300 01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:07,920 Speaker 3: want to be credited. 1301 01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:09,800 Speaker 1: He don't even want you to even tell the world. 1302 01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:13,160 Speaker 1: He don't care like he do what you do want basketball. 1303 01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:18,560 Speaker 2: He's a great hearted, he's the kindest person I ever know, man, 1304 01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,120 Speaker 2: Like then gave me the biggest opportunity in my life. 1305 01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:24,160 Speaker 1: He's this is the gift that keeps on giving. That's 1306 01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:26,000 Speaker 1: why I always tell him, like, hey, how can I 1307 01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:30,120 Speaker 1: pay you back? Bro? Like how I don't put on 1308 01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,840 Speaker 1: my whole family? How you pay someone like him back? 1309 01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:36,600 Speaker 2: Like when that's it? And that's why he said on 1310 01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:39,600 Speaker 2: the right person, that's what he's saying. Yeah, all I 1311 01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:40,960 Speaker 2: want to do is see you when. 1312 01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,840 Speaker 3: I'm telling you, like my last time I seen was 1313 01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:45,520 Speaker 3: an earth past. That's when I was with him. 1314 01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:46,440 Speaker 1: You know. 1315 01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:48,880 Speaker 3: He wrote me after the funeral and saying, it was 1316 01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:54,840 Speaker 3: like amazing to watch me deal with everybody. You know, 1317 01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:58,480 Speaker 3: I greeted everybody, talk to everybody, and you know it 1318 01:01:58,720 --> 01:01:59,960 Speaker 3: in the worst times for me. 1319 01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:03,160 Speaker 1: Man, Hell yeah, I couldn't even imagine bro. 1320 01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,360 Speaker 3: You know, and you know him writing back and tell 1321 01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:08,360 Speaker 3: me and he was like, if you need anything, let 1322 01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:11,800 Speaker 3: me know and everything. Again, it's just a blessing to have. 1323 01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,920 Speaker 2: A big homie like that on your just to have 1324 01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:19,240 Speaker 2: somebody with that statue on your side, even behind you. 1325 01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,000 Speaker 2: And understand because a lot of people forget, like I say, 1326 01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:25,960 Speaker 2: they look at billionaire whole They don't understand he from. 1327 01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:27,600 Speaker 1: Mossy fucking projects. Man. 1328 01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,560 Speaker 2: They ate peanut butter and jelly man. Nigga made fake pizza, 1329 01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,080 Speaker 2: Nigga with the crab cheese and the tomato sauce on 1330 01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:36,720 Speaker 2: the Wonder Brad stop playing man. We regular hood niggas 1331 01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:40,120 Speaker 2: and Nigga never erase that. Man, no heart that niggas 1332 01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,360 Speaker 2: have from what we came through to where we're at. 1333 01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:45,160 Speaker 2: It would never change. Man, what you want to tell her? 1334 01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:47,680 Speaker 2: What's going on next? What's the next moves for my guy? 1335 01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:49,959 Speaker 1: Chris got on it again. 1336 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:53,840 Speaker 3: The movies is incredible, but again the Basketball League to go. 1337 01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:54,520 Speaker 1: Back to that. 1338 01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:58,960 Speaker 3: Like I said, I may have raising my first season incredible. 1339 01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,760 Speaker 3: I got all them players and coaches and my street 1340 01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,000 Speaker 3: ball background, and I have a I have a real 1341 01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:09,080 Speaker 3: business there that when I get New York set, I'm 1342 01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:11,440 Speaker 3: gonna take it in multiple cities. Not teams. 1343 01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:12,520 Speaker 1: Everyone. 1344 01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:15,360 Speaker 3: Everyone thinks I'm gonna bring a team to Chicago. I'm 1345 01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:18,920 Speaker 3: gonna bring the league. It'll be the CPL of Chicago 1346 01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:22,560 Speaker 3: to be the CP of Miami Atlanta. Because what I'm 1347 01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:26,640 Speaker 3: servicing is all these players. You think of the NBA, 1348 01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:29,960 Speaker 3: there's only thirty two teams. There's only two rounds every year. 1349 01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:34,000 Speaker 3: Think of marsh madness, how many players don't get to 1350 01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:35,440 Speaker 3: the league fact. 1351 01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:36,640 Speaker 1: And then out of those. 1352 01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:42,040 Speaker 3: Sixty four, how many so old overseas? And then every say, 1353 01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:45,800 Speaker 3: oh you go overseas and play okay man overseas. It's 1354 01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:48,880 Speaker 3: two players that could be from America the rest are. 1355 01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:52,440 Speaker 1: I had a conversation with Vince Carter and Tracy McGrady. 1356 01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:56,280 Speaker 2: I went to shout out team that's fan for the 1357 01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,240 Speaker 2: dinner with them, not to over though, and they were saying, man, 1358 01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:03,560 Speaker 2: we missed the shooters in America once Curry leave, Like 1359 01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:06,040 Speaker 2: who he got? We don't have all the shooters is 1360 01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,880 Speaker 2: from overseas. Everybody here we just know how to dribble. 1361 01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,360 Speaker 2: And I was saying there, I'm like, damn, that's kind 1362 01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:12,840 Speaker 2: of crazy. I ain't ever look at it. 1363 01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,840 Speaker 1: Like, you know, shooting like Curry has. 1364 01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,160 Speaker 3: Think of how many shoots shots he has to take 1365 01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:20,360 Speaker 3: to get that good. 1366 01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:22,720 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Will take that practice. Man, you 1367 01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:25,200 Speaker 1: gotta work. That's working when you're exhaust you gotta go 1368 01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:27,400 Speaker 1: get it. Man, you gotta work for it. It's not 1369 01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:29,640 Speaker 1: gonna be just given to you if he wins. Another ring. 1370 01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:30,440 Speaker 3: Where do you put him? 1371 01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:34,560 Speaker 2: Oh, he's up there, he's number two. It's number two. 1372 01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:37,240 Speaker 2: He went another ring, he number two. And you look 1373 01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:39,960 Speaker 2: at the team he's got. He's got no good team, right, 1374 01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:41,320 Speaker 2: I mean when you when you go. 1375 01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,120 Speaker 1: Back, you gotta Dreammard who only would work good with him? 1376 01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,280 Speaker 1: You got it. Let's go to Clay when he was there. 1377 01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:53,200 Speaker 3: Clay was tough. But we're playing with playing with a 1378 01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:56,280 Speaker 3: great player like Curry Laundry. 1379 01:04:56,520 --> 01:05:01,360 Speaker 1: Good dollar though, and what was my other man? Who player? Homie? 1380 01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:05,000 Speaker 1: Who is a good dollar? A star? Is your role player? 1381 01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:08,200 Speaker 1: Thank you? He was a role player in Philly. He 1382 01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:10,520 Speaker 1: was a star in Golden State. He was the MVP 1383 01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:11,480 Speaker 1: of the finals. 1384 01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:14,360 Speaker 3: I could argue that, but there's another party. Again, he 1385 01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:18,280 Speaker 3: didn't average more points, but and again average impact. 1386 01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:22,560 Speaker 1: The impact is because of Draymond, no score. But he 1387 01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:23,400 Speaker 1: was a staff. 1388 01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,080 Speaker 3: You know, my sister was just talking to me just 1389 01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:28,320 Speaker 3: now and she says, the pace is she said she 1390 01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:32,720 Speaker 3: never liked Halliburton. Hold on, why she's this is my sister, 1391 01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:35,000 Speaker 3: you know, And she said, I didn't like Halliburton. So 1392 01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:37,760 Speaker 3: I but man, what are they won in twelve or 1393 01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:42,440 Speaker 3: something like that? Okay, he's not playing. Okay, his impact. Now, 1394 01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:46,760 Speaker 3: those role players when when it's see when sports is 1395 01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:48,800 Speaker 3: in and you talk to players, you could ask on 1396 01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:52,400 Speaker 3: what I'm saying when it's when that when that star 1397 01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:55,800 Speaker 3: isn't on that court and now it's you, the game 1398 01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,920 Speaker 3: on the other side is geared to stop you. Yeah, okay, 1399 01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:01,920 Speaker 3: that's what just happened to all those role players. If 1400 01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:04,280 Speaker 3: they get to stop Igual Dollar, what is he gonna do? 1401 01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:08,040 Speaker 3: It's only because he was jumping through the roof, dunking 1402 01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:09,160 Speaker 3: or niggas heads and. 1403 01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:15,600 Speaker 1: We cannot erase who he was. No, you're not gonna 1404 01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:18,120 Speaker 1: do that. Listen to me. I'm not. I'm saying he's 1405 01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:21,760 Speaker 1: a role player. He never was a start. 1406 01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:25,760 Speaker 3: He was a star only because Curry takes all that 1407 01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:29,560 Speaker 3: attention and then he's good enough. He's that good that 1408 01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:31,880 Speaker 3: if it's just him and that one player he buzzing 1409 01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:34,040 Speaker 3: that Nigga asked, See, that's the. 1410 01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:37,919 Speaker 1: Difference of a star. It's the difference of a star. 1411 01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,280 Speaker 3: Bro It's like you could go through the lage James, 1412 01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:44,840 Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler is older now, but he was at one 1413 01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:46,320 Speaker 3: point questions. 1414 01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:47,440 Speaker 1: At one point, I said. 1415 01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:51,200 Speaker 4: Yes, he's not now, he's not now, and I guarantee 1416 01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:53,320 Speaker 4: if you talk to him, he's gonna tell you how 1417 01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:55,840 Speaker 4: much he loves playing with Steph because it takes so 1418 01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:57,880 Speaker 4: much away from him with other players. 1419 01:06:57,920 --> 01:06:59,840 Speaker 1: It's no more dealing with twos and three. 1420 01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:03,400 Speaker 3: You know. You know I told you I cold aging 1421 01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,200 Speaker 3: or cole Many. Mante Ellens shout out, mante Ellis, man, 1422 01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:08,480 Speaker 3: that was one of my dudes. And he he was 1423 01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:13,720 Speaker 3: mad because David Lee got a Max contract. White boy dad. Yeah, 1424 01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:16,160 Speaker 3: I remember, shout out, David, that's my man. We's poking 1425 01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:17,240 Speaker 3: all that shit together. 1426 01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:21,280 Speaker 1: David Lee. Right, how you worried about it? A man 1427 01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:26,320 Speaker 1: is fill that's pople player in the world. You know 1428 01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:26,800 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. 1429 01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:29,720 Speaker 3: But David Lee got an eighty million dollar contract at 1430 01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:32,680 Speaker 3: the time, and mante Ellens said to me, he said, 1431 01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:35,520 Speaker 3: how's the nigga get eighty million and never a double 1432 01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:39,320 Speaker 3: team for him? See, this is when you start analyzing 1433 01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:43,880 Speaker 3: players and understand the differences and who's really who is. 1434 01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:45,000 Speaker 1: When you got a. 1435 01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:48,440 Speaker 3: Player that's taking all the attention and every team is 1436 01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:50,880 Speaker 3: good to stop them, you fall through the cracks. 1437 01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:55,680 Speaker 1: Bro. So that's why what are you talking about? 1438 01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:59,640 Speaker 2: Because Lebron the whole league the reps, every team, the players, 1439 01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:01,560 Speaker 2: the FA they've been getting towards him. 1440 01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:04,520 Speaker 1: Since he came out of high school. So he number 1441 01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:08,080 Speaker 1: one if he got this. You watched Lebron get double 1442 01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:12,640 Speaker 1: teams ten team, Yeah, the whole Detroit. He dunk on 1443 01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:16,960 Speaker 1: the whole team. Lebron is power and speed. He don't 1444 01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:17,759 Speaker 1: shake nobody. 1445 01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:20,040 Speaker 3: He's gonna run through. 1446 01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:23,160 Speaker 1: Understand, And you go about that. I would me first. 1447 01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:26,640 Speaker 3: When I watched when I watched Lebron, And again, I 1448 01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:27,759 Speaker 3: don't want to knock Lebron. 1449 01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:29,800 Speaker 1: Don't give me number one day. 1450 01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:33,559 Speaker 2: By your analogy, he's number one if you're talking about 1451 01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:37,600 Speaker 2: the main focus of the are you kidding me? 1452 01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:37,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1453 01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:40,080 Speaker 2: But them dudes was them dudes were coming on was 1454 01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:42,519 Speaker 2: plumbers man. He wasn't athletic. 1455 01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:45,040 Speaker 3: They already I don't want to go back and forth 1456 01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:45,560 Speaker 3: with you with this. 1457 01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:47,360 Speaker 1: Go look at the players that he played with. 1458 01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:49,960 Speaker 2: I'm not saying no, but I'm saying that my eyes 1459 01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:52,200 Speaker 2: play with eyes that I saw. 1460 01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:55,120 Speaker 1: Shorting this number one. 1461 01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:59,920 Speaker 2: I said, but it was knowledge electricians and makes little 1462 01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:01,360 Speaker 2: Raw number one because. 1463 01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:06,040 Speaker 1: Just because that analogy doesn't make him number one. So listen. 1464 01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:09,800 Speaker 1: So bj Armstrong was bj Armstrong and Jordan made him, 1465 01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:14,600 Speaker 1: but he wasn't a star role player. Paxton wasn't the 1466 01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:15,679 Speaker 1: start of the role players. 1467 01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:19,600 Speaker 3: What about what about what about her specialists? 1468 01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:20,040 Speaker 1: Role player? 1469 01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:23,719 Speaker 3: He can't he had them in history. 1470 01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:28,800 Speaker 1: That's just say no, the team is designed. Yeah, you 1471 01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:30,920 Speaker 1: need a person for these places. 1472 01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:34,519 Speaker 3: They knew three people's on Jordan's someone's open that's gonna 1473 01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,120 Speaker 3: be reliable to knock it down. So they got specialist Hodges. 1474 01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:38,759 Speaker 1: Fuck, then what about Craig Hodges. 1475 01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:43,760 Speaker 3: Craig Hodges got busy. I'm telling you, Yeah, they had specialists. 1476 01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:46,760 Speaker 3: That's how you designed the team. But that's how you 1477 01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:48,120 Speaker 3: gotta design it. I hear you. 1478 01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:53,760 Speaker 2: There's no team designed like that since Golden State. That's 1479 01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:58,560 Speaker 2: the only team since Chicago that was designed by the 1480 01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,599 Speaker 2: regular role player that dominated the game. 1481 01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:02,679 Speaker 1: How that happened? 1482 01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:04,920 Speaker 3: See, this is where you're missing this punt. 1483 01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:08,240 Speaker 1: It's the same happened. It's the same thing with Detroit Pistons. 1484 01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:10,960 Speaker 1: How they wore they one? They ring? How did it happen? 1485 01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:14,639 Speaker 2: The team together? But these niggas was all stars. It's 1486 01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:18,200 Speaker 2: just nobody wanted. I'm not talking about that Detroit. I'm 1487 01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:22,120 Speaker 2: talking about Detroit with Ben Willers Chauncey Billups, rip hamdled. 1488 01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:27,439 Speaker 3: That was my squad. Okay, Mota City, that was my team. 1489 01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:30,160 Speaker 3: A bunch of niggas that you counted out and we 1490 01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:34,040 Speaker 3: get together and show you we really had. I'm here too, 1491 01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:35,160 Speaker 3: So that's. 1492 01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:38,439 Speaker 2: What I'm saying. You can't say either, it's not number one. 1493 01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:41,799 Speaker 2: If you get together, put the team together, all. 1494 01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:47,040 Speaker 1: Of your niggas level. What team was gearing up to 1495 01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:48,120 Speaker 1: stop IgA dollars? 1496 01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:49,320 Speaker 3: That's what the problem is. 1497 01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:55,640 Speaker 1: That's what stop dollar in Golden State? Are you kidding me? 1498 01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:57,120 Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? 1499 01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:57,360 Speaker 2: No? 1500 01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:00,880 Speaker 3: I'm not hot yo, were goiving touch you, andre j. 1501 01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:03,880 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to gearing up to stop the whole 1502 01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:07,559 Speaker 1: Golden State. These niggas invented the move around giving They 1503 01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:10,200 Speaker 1: was looking like the Globe trotters when they first study 1504 01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:13,439 Speaker 1: niggas trying to con the whole team. I think they're 1505 01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:14,000 Speaker 1: the reason. 1506 01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:18,360 Speaker 3: Okay, hold on, hold on this pit stop stop who's 1507 01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:20,160 Speaker 3: the one out of all of them is running around. 1508 01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:23,040 Speaker 3: That's who they're geared towards. The whole plays is run 1509 01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:26,800 Speaker 3: because they had they had an iconic player. Listen to me, 1510 01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:29,360 Speaker 3: they got an iconic player, Steff, I'm not saying nothing. 1511 01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:32,040 Speaker 3: I'm trying to explain to you. 1512 01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:34,720 Speaker 1: So he's the iconic player. You agree, I'm gonna give 1513 01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:35,559 Speaker 1: you one. Okay. 1514 01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:39,080 Speaker 3: So if that's the case, the entire offense is designed 1515 01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:39,880 Speaker 3: around him. 1516 01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:43,080 Speaker 1: Not a good dollar. You say you are second and. 1517 01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:45,560 Speaker 3: Third option, Hodie, right, he'll tell you. 1518 01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:49,519 Speaker 1: But listen, so lit'sten right. You can't be bringing the 1519 01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:51,320 Speaker 1: second and third breaking down. 1520 01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:56,080 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to say, who a star? He said iconic? Okay, 1521 01:11:57,320 --> 01:12:01,519 Speaker 2: jay Z is fucking iconic. But we all stars on 1522 01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:05,720 Speaker 2: there too. We role players, though, but we stars. 1523 01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:08,160 Speaker 1: In that right. I said, nobody ain't gonna tell me. 1524 01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:14,360 Speaker 3: Fella got it when he got to when he got 1525 01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:17,120 Speaker 3: the gonna say he's the role player you got, you 1526 01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:21,200 Speaker 3: got Steph, and you had Clay Clay. Clay's a monster. 1527 01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:24,479 Speaker 1: Draymond is a star. Dre not a star. He a 1528 01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:25,040 Speaker 1: role player. 1529 01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:27,920 Speaker 3: If Draymond played for the Knicks with Draymond even played, 1530 01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:28,960 Speaker 3: see he. 1531 01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:30,760 Speaker 1: Only could do what he's doing. 1532 01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:33,800 Speaker 3: I feel like that, it's like you know you again. 1533 01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:37,840 Speaker 3: It's like you get that perfect combination. Stephan Draymond is 1534 01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:41,800 Speaker 3: the perfect combination. Fuck I fuck with Dre Draymond like 1535 01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:43,840 Speaker 3: he's a grinder. But he has to fit in a 1536 01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:46,040 Speaker 3: certain system or else he'll be irrelevant. 1537 01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:51,679 Speaker 1: So chill this conversation. That's because sports is crazy. 1538 01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:56,320 Speaker 2: This is the basketball I love y'all. I just want 1539 01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:59,320 Speaker 2: to tell you, don't lose my script in the mail 1540 01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:02,679 Speaker 2: like this. This was my invite sit in the script. 1541 01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:06,599 Speaker 1: We ready, baby, tell I appreciate you pulling up my brother. 1542 01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:07,720 Speaker 1: You know I love you. Man. 1543 01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:11,200 Speaker 2: Make sure y'all check out balling. Make sure you check 1544 01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:12,679 Speaker 2: out Spanish fly dropping. 1545 01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:16,360 Speaker 3: So make sure you tap into the cpl any of 1546 01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:18,840 Speaker 3: y'all got some money in want that's your music. 1547 01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:22,679 Speaker 1: Alad, Chris Gottie, we outside man involved with this basketball league. 1548 01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:24,360 Speaker 3: I promise you this is a multi billion all the 1549 01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:26,200 Speaker 3: business raised three million right now. 1550 01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:28,800 Speaker 1: Next raise is gonna be seventy five to one hundred. 1551 01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:31,599 Speaker 2: Stop being scared of niggas who beat the Alphabet boys 1552 01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:33,320 Speaker 2: and they tail. You should want to link with them. 1553 01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:36,559 Speaker 2: These other niggas out here, burnt and earning nigga. 1554 01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:37,600 Speaker 1: Watch that. 1555 01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:47,040 Speaker 2: For more podcasts from iHeart Radio, visit iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 1556 01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:49,560 Speaker 2: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows at and 1557 01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:52,760 Speaker 2: you can follow me on any social media platform under 1558 01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:53,880 Speaker 2: the name Memphis Bleak. 1559 01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:56,160 Speaker 1: You see anybody fraud in flagging