1 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to the drive. I'm dl always here with Matt 2 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: williamsoning to say, Saturday, the Steelers back on the practice 3 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: field today, presumably presumably, Well, if the rains come through, 4 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: they'll be on the practice field somewhere, got you. It's 5 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: just a matter of where, right. Um, we've been together 6 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: for a while and we've had a little trade, a 7 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: big trade, big trade. We had a game. We've got 8 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: a string of practices coming up here before next week, 9 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: so I think people will hear a lot of us 10 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: these these coming mornings. Um, kind of a gloomy Saturday here, 11 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: but the time for the Steelers to get into it 12 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: and get some working. Always a gloomy Saturday if it's 13 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: eight am morning, right, Yeah, I honestly don't even know 14 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: what day of the week it is anymore. You've really 15 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: been on. Days of the week do not matter. Yeah, 16 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: we were chatting yesterday and I didn't realize how long 17 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: a string you've been on where every day is kind 18 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: of the same, more travel back and forth from Philadelphia 19 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: and Canton. And yeah, you have not had a day off. 20 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: I have not had a day off since training camp started. Wow, 21 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: what is like three and a half weeks in now 22 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: something like that, something along those lines. Along those lines, 23 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: it's it's uh, I'll be happy when the regular season starts. 24 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: Let's put it that way. At least then I know 25 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: what it's going on, and that, you know, it's a 26 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,639 Speaker 1: little more predictable to like just to pull the curtain 27 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: back here a little bit, like we're waiting for the 28 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: Steelers to release their uh schedule of practices for the 29 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: upcoming week. Now, I know that they have to have 30 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: two days off during the week, so I know one 31 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: of those will be Friday because they play, because they 32 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: play Saturday, I don't know when. We don't know when 33 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: the other day is going to be. For example, we're 34 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: on the air of the days they practice, so we 35 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: don't know that yet, right right, I would I would 36 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: imagine we'll find that out today. And I get it that. 37 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: You know that Mike Tomlins, you know, given the weather 38 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: situation right now, probably eyeball on that it's probably not 39 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: looking okay. What they might we get rained out, Like 40 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: you said, they have to have two off, and he 41 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: has it probably has a good idea that it's I'm 42 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: guessing it's gonna be Tuesday, because that would break up 43 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: the practice. Yea day in a row, three and Saturday, Sunday, 44 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: Monday off, Tuesday, practice Wednesday, Thursday, play the game on 45 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: Saturday against the Lions. Yea, it seems like a logical situation. 46 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 1: But if it's gonna rain like crazy on say Monday, 47 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: say Monday Tuesday look like rain. But how much do 48 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: you trust that? I mean, they'd go to the indoor, 49 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: but you guys wouldn't go with them? Right, Well, I 50 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 1: think we can, but you know, you gotta stand down 51 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: in the corner. And yeah, that's all that stuff. And again, 52 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: you know, for for Mike Tomlin, he's looking at this 53 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:44,959 Speaker 1: scot Okay, they probably wouldn't schedule practice down there that day. 54 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: It would have to be a situation where they would 55 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: move it. But and then and then it turns into 56 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: bussing all the guys across town, that kind of stuff. 57 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: So so there's one you're gonna take off that makes 58 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: some sense, correct, Yeah, say they are going to practice 59 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 1: the next two days in some capacity though, you know that, 60 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: assuming that you know the storms will come through. We 61 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: saw the last practice that they had before the game 62 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: against the Eagles was was shortened because of yeah, right 63 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: right right, lightning actually and nature side note. I was 64 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: here with Brian who's keeping us on the air, and 65 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: the crawl Man and everybody for the game wild did 66 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: it pour here while you guys were in Philly for 67 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: the game. I mean we even lost power for a minute. 68 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: The TV went out. Was like, wow, this is crazy. 69 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: So you guys didn't get that. But it was little 70 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,839 Speaker 1: bonkers and we didn't lose power at all. But really 71 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: a lot of my neighborhood. It's one of the nice 72 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: things about We live right next to the hospital in Washington, Okay, 73 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: so we always get we're on your power grids. Yeah. Yeah, 74 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: even if it does go out, like there was a 75 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: couple of winners ago where you know people I knew 76 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: people that lost power for like a week. Ours was 77 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: out for like two hours and it was back on. 78 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: I guess important, but much is transpired. Don't do that 79 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: when when they don't tell you that when you're buying 80 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: the house, but all the next that's people that about it. Yeah, 81 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: there is a lot going on. Let's start with the 82 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: Joe Schobert trade. Since there's a lot of layers on 83 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: peel here with you. To me, that was the biggest 84 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: thing that came out of the game. Yeah right, you know, 85 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: I mean the game. It's I'm the whole first quarter. 86 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: I'm writing the Joe Schobert story, I would imagine. I mean, 87 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: that's a big news, that's a big move. Um, here's 88 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: my thoughts, and it might take a few minutes, but 89 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: let's go back to not a few minutes. I guess 90 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: we do. He was an edge guy at Wisconsin, UM 91 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: in the Watt era. You know it knows those guys 92 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: real well. I know you've done more research on that. 93 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: I mean, he goes back quite away, as with the 94 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: Watt family, which is wonderful. UM moves to a second 95 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: level linebacker in the pros basically because he wasn't you know, 96 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 1: a super twitchy edge guy, you know, like t J 97 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: or you know these edge dudes nine and a half 98 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: Sex Wisconsin. Yeah, I say he's a little bit short armed, 99 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: you know, he's built a little bit more like a 100 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,679 Speaker 1: second level guy, but he can still rush the passer, 101 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: and I expect that pass rush to be Vince Williams esk. 102 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: You know what I mean as a as an interior blitzer, 103 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: but more than a blitzer, I mean as a nactual 104 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: good pass rusher that can string together moves and understands 105 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: hand placement. He's in his career. Yeah, I mean I 106 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: think if you if you try to block him with 107 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,119 Speaker 1: a back one on one and the Steeler should devise 108 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: that a lot, he's gonna beat that up. And he's 109 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: shown that over his years. So you know, I mentioned 110 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: he goes to the Browns year after year, gets better 111 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: and better at a new position, obviously has put a 112 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: ton of work in good athlete, good body type for it. 113 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: Um becomes a free agent and Jacksonville flat out overspent 114 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: on him, you know what I mean, As they often 115 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: do in these teams that are fishing in the free 116 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: agent waters. I think they land a shark, but he's 117 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: really a you know, a Barracouta or you know, a 118 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: quality player, but not a star. So I think they 119 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: try to get out of it, which is exactly what 120 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: they did. And Miles Jack is their top linebacker, so 121 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: you're paying your number two guy too much and they 122 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: know they're not winning in this year they're any way. 123 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: But what Showbird is to me right now is a 124 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: guy basically in his prime who's an upgrade over everything 125 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: they've played with. Really since Bush has been drafted and 126 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: next to him. Um, a couple of things stand out. 127 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: I mentioned the pass rush. He's a very good coverage player, 128 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: much more so in zone than man in my opinion. 129 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: I mean, it's very knowledgeable and recognizes things. Quality runs, yeah, 130 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: without question. Um. I don't know if you caught this, 131 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: but I think Missy interviewed coach Tomlin at halftime, and 132 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: you know, one of the things he immediately said with 133 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: the defense on the Eagles game was our communication the 134 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: front seven isn't great or something along those lines, And 135 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: I immediately thought, I bet show Bert's pretty good at that, 136 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, that's like, right up, that's one 137 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: of the things he does. Yeah, that's kind of the 138 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: play caller well to expect him to do that with 139 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: the Steelers coming in, and I mean, I don't know 140 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: if he's aware of the dot. He's not going to 141 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: do that, at least certainly not right away. I mean, 142 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: that's what they want Devon Bush to do. But it 143 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: never hurts to have another communication guy on the field, 144 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: A veteran and right, I don't know how vocal bushes. 145 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: I don't know how good he is in those regards, 146 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: but I mean it sounds like it was something that 147 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: they don't they aren't happy with. UM. I found that 148 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: fascinating and I went back and kind of looked over. Uh, 149 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: some of the plays that were that weren't made by 150 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: the inside linebackers in that game. There's been a lot 151 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: in the last you know, there was I don't know 152 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: if you if he caught this one. There was a blitz. 153 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: It was a third down blitz on on Philadelphia's I 154 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: believe opening drive. Yeah, right before they kicked the field goal, 155 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: and Splaine blitzed and just got leveled by Jordan Well 156 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:44,559 Speaker 1: you saw that, just got just decked by Jordan Howard. 157 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: He's a professional, good back and good perfection, but you know, 158 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: right it's not a good look no matter what. And immediately, 159 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: like within a minute or two of that, Hey, the 160 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: Steelers are trading for Joe Schobern. Now I had nothing 161 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,119 Speaker 1: to do with that, obviously they were talking well before. 162 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: But you know, then at the end of the first half, 163 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: ulysses Gilbert misses another tackle. It's just two and two, 164 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: two games in the secondary. Uh, then Splaine gave up 165 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: a nineteen yard catch down the sideline. Uh, you know, 166 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: to a fourth string tight end, and the you know, 167 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: the Eagles go down and kick a field goal at 168 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: the end of the half. I'm like, that's why you 169 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: make a trade for a guy like Joe Schobert, because 170 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: you know that that you know, you know who Batman is, 171 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: you know who's your Robin. Well, this is a this 172 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 1: is an upgraded robin for sure, that question. And a 173 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: guy has been around the block that can give Batman 174 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: some tips to you know. I mean, I think that 175 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: that is very valuable. Um, he's not cheap in terms 176 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: of finances. I mentioned the contract Jacksonville sign him to, 177 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: but he could be a one year deal, he could 178 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: be a two year deal. I mean, it's really up 179 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: to the Steelers. It's very much much. Yeah, it's very 180 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: much like to make of Fitzpatrick trade. When you trade 181 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: for that guy who's already been signed to a contract done, 182 00:08:58,160 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: all that's done, you don't you're not on the hook 183 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: for any of the signing bonus they paid that. So 184 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: Jacksonville essentially paid like twenty three million or whatever it 185 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 1: was for for Joe Schobert. Yeah. Um, so the Steelers 186 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: get him at just his bass salaries. Now he's got 187 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: some he's got some other uh incentive and things like 188 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: that in his contract. But it's not super expensive. No, 189 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: and if he's really good next year is like eight dish, 190 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: which isn't crazy, or you could tear the whole thing 191 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: up and you know, build your own contract that you're 192 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: happy with. So that's not a big deal to me. Um. 193 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: What I do think is a big deal is when 194 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 1: you look at his career. He was they were one 195 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 1: in fifteen. Last year they won the first game he 196 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: lost fifteen a row, and before that he was a Brown. 197 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: I mean he's basically been on the worst team in 198 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: the league every year he's been a pro. And we've 199 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 1: seen it with Hayden. He has to be doing cart 200 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: wheels to come here. He was very excited. We actually, uh, um, 201 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: and you can have a better supporting cast, I mean, 202 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: needless to say. I mean he was reached out to 203 00:09:55,800 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: him on via text and he's right away and he 204 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: was very excited. He saw what his wife put out 205 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: on Twitter. I mean, they're they're they're excited to come 206 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: here again. I think, you know, I mean the Steelers 207 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: have like five guys from Wisconsin now right good point, 208 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: right wing wat connection of course, lots and louder Milks 209 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: and it's gonna feel like home pretty quick, and winning 210 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: games and being in a better organization than where he's 211 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: you know, entered the league and where he went to 212 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: now has to be promising. And I'm sure for him, 213 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: you know, he gets a chance to play Cleveland twice 214 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: a year, like, yeah, right, he gave up on you? Yeah, 215 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 1: good point here might be the biggest deal to me. Well, 216 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: first of all, I think you get your weakest of 217 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: the eleven off the field now, and obviously there's a 218 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: a trickle down totem Pole effect, you know, where the 219 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 1: guys that should be a two or three or now 220 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: twos and threes and they're not ones. Uh, you're obviously 221 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 1: a lot more equipped to deal with the Bush injury, 222 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: which we saw last year and wasn't great. Um. I 223 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: brought this up a lot before they drafted for Bush, 224 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: or before they moved up to draft Bush. That year 225 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: they were at the top of the league in base defense, 226 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: which for them is their three four and dime. But 227 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: so therefore they were at the Bottano League in Nickel 228 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,199 Speaker 1: and as we often talked about, this is without Bush. 229 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: They were either too big and slow or they were 230 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: too small and not physical enough. So they go draft 231 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: Bush and then his first year there near the top 232 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: of the league and Nickel again. Then last year he 233 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: gets hurt and you go back to that being too 234 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: heavy or light problem and often having a Marcus Allen 235 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: on the field or guys like that. So I think 236 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 1: the plan and something people need to get really used 237 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: to is now that you have Showbert and Bush, I 238 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: think you're gonna live in Nickel a high percentage of 239 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: time with those two being your two every down linebackers. 240 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: You know, a four man front and five guys behind it, 241 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: and that's what you're looking for. You know, like the 242 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 1: opening day opponent, the Bills, they never get out of Nickel. 243 00:11:55,920 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's Milano and Edmunds, three uh defensive 244 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: backs and rotate the front and it just makes you 245 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: a lot less predictable. Yeah, it also gives the Steelers 246 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: now five guys. It seems like it should be more, 247 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: but they've got five guys on their defense who've been 248 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: been to a Pro Bowl. That makes sense. But you 249 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: would think of it, would think it would be more 250 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: than that. Hayden Minca, show Bert cam Watt to it to. 251 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: It's never been. It's crazy, as you didn't go to 252 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,599 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. Yeah, to it and Bush could be 253 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: on the horizon, you think to it for sure? Interesting? Okay, 254 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: so you know I think it makes them a very 255 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: dangerous defense. Um. Again you you mentioned this the sacks. Uh. 256 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: You know, if you look at his sack totals, had 257 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: a half sack as a rookie. Uh in two thousand sixteen. 258 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: Again not that old of a guy two thousand sixteen. 259 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: Three sacks in two thousand seventeen, three in two thousand eighteen, 260 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: two in two thousand nineteen and two and a half 261 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: last year for Jacksonville. I've been he is four here 262 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: you think, Yeah, I'm mean you know what I mean 263 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: with all the other pass rushers that you're on the field, 264 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: I mean you're talking about being you know, with Cleveland 265 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: and Jacksonville, they're not great pass rushers. There's nothing around you, right, 266 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: You're not protected as well in the run game. I 267 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: don't think you'd scheme up those inside linebacker blitzer as 268 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 1: well as the Steelers have because they've been the best 269 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: in league of doing it for forty years. You know, 270 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: those cross blitzer as you see, maybe we'll see more 271 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: of those. Um, do you take this at all as 272 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 1: a knock on bush. I don't, but I think it's insurance. 273 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: It's insurance. I think it gives you. You know, they're 274 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: obviously they were looking for an upgrade there. Um. Robert 275 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: Splain is what he is, you know, I think that's 276 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: the bottom line. He's a great story. He will tell 277 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: stories down the road of remember when he stood up 278 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry in the hole and the you know he 279 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: came and help that interception against Lamar Jackson he took 280 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: back for a touchdown. Yeah, those are those are great 281 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: plays and that's what you need out of you know. 282 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin always talks about the standard being the standard, 283 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: and that's those are things that you can point to, 284 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: right for a game or can you rely on it 285 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: for sixteen or sixteen games? Is that what you want 286 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: your plan to be? Probably not? Probably not. You know, 287 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: it's it's kind of like, you know, the tyler A 288 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: Matta Cavage thing. You know, I remember three years ago 289 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 1: and talking to somebody you know who was in the 290 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: know in the organization and like, Okay, what's your backup 291 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: planet inside linebacker if something happens that she's here? Right? Oh, 292 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: we get tyler A Matta Cavige. Uh you do, you 293 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: got Tyler a Matta cavin Okay, that's a problem. I 294 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: don't believe that one of these things is not like 295 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: the other. Absolutely, I remember that. I remember that offseason 296 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: a lot. You and I said, the guy they can 297 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: afford to lose leads to dishes here, you know, because 298 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: and behold, yeah, we actually saw what that was and 299 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: it was a disaster. Um, I don't know it was 300 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: to that point here because these guys have played snaps 301 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: and you know, I think it's pretty clear. Buddy Johnson's 302 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: a year away, and you know, we'll see where he's at. 303 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: I think Gilbert's in a little bit of trouble now 304 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, maybe it was in trouble before. Um, 305 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: he seems to be swimming a little bit. And Spillane 306 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: isn't a starter. No. It also allows you to strengthen 307 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: your special teams. Good point because Splane can now go 308 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: back to being's playing two years ago. It's a really 309 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: good special teams. How he got here and that's how 310 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: he Yeah, that's how you're team. So if he's you're 311 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: when you're starting inside linebackers, you play him on some 312 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: special teams, not all of them. You don't want him 313 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: out there, you know, he don't want him out there 314 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: playing seventy of the defensive snaps in all special teams. 315 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: It's hard on Some coaches have varied theories on this. 316 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: But if you're gonna run down on a kickoff or 317 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: run down on a punt and then the next snap 318 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: you gotta play defense, you're gonna be winded. I mean, 319 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: you hope there's a commercial break or whatever, but a 320 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: lot of times you don't want your best defensive players 321 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: in those two key phases of special teams. Well, he 322 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: should be out there every time. Now, yeah, now he's 323 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: now he's a full time player on special teams, which 324 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: again has that trickle down effect that you know. Okay, 325 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: now I know who you know? We know Derek Watts. 326 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: When your core special team players, you know Splaine. Now 327 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: is when you're added one more, Yeah, you hadd a 328 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: core special team player back to the equation. Right, So 329 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: Danny Smith's happy too, and every you know, Jerry oh 330 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: is happy, and everybody gave everybody wins. And the cost 331 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: isn't that much, right, you had the cash to do it, 332 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: have the cash, right, I've been asked a lot by people, 333 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: you know, do does this mean that they can't do 334 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: anything else or they can't do the what you know extension? No, 335 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: that those are all still things that they can do. 336 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know. The first of all, there's there's 337 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: there's roster displacement with this, you know, him making him 338 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: coming in means that somebody else gets bumped off, gets 339 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: bumped off. So the seven point three millions really six 340 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: point three million against the cabin. That's a good point. 341 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: So you still got about you still got about six 342 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: million dollars if everybody understands that. But you only count 343 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: the top guys. So every time you add somebody to 344 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: the top of the formation, for you know formula, the 345 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: guy whoever's last on the ladder falls off your salary cap, 346 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: you know, so you do gain something there. So it's 347 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: you know, it's not certainly not a wash. No, No, 348 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: you spend money. But I think what it does do 349 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: um is that it takes Maybe I was asked after 350 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 1: after the game, I did live con cues and all 351 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, and well, the Steelers need to 352 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: go out and sign a center, and they need to 353 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: go out and sign a cornerback and No, it's not 354 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: gonna happen, folks. You can't. You know, they've already signed. 355 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: Since the draft, they've been busy. Trade Turner, yeah, Melvin Ingram, 356 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: and now it made the trade. Three Pro Bowl players 357 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: they added. They're all several million plus dude, you know, 358 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: right at key positions. That doesn't mean they're roster set. 359 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 1: And there's not somebody outside the organization that will make 360 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: this team. But it's probably someone that gets cut. It's 361 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: not somebody who's gonna make this kind of impact. It's 362 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: not the starter four million plus type of guy. And 363 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,239 Speaker 1: if they desperately wanted to do that, I'm sure they 364 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: could restructure a contractor too. I just don't think that's 365 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 1: in the cards. I don't grab a veteran on the 366 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: cheap that gets cut. Um. Where was I going with 367 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: this too? I can't remember. There was I'm sure what 368 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: we're talking about here soon, but there was another angle 369 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about with Showbert. I really think 370 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: that the defense is a lot harder to attack. Now 371 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: you know that if Spillane's out there. I'm sure Josh 372 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: Allen was scheming the whole time. That's what we're gonna 373 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: go and you know, let alone the Bradies and the 374 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: nickel and dimers that will attack that spot. If you 375 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: haven't seen it in the preseason, you know, no, yeah, 376 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: I mean you go right after it, and you know, 377 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: I think that's that's one of the things that one 378 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: of the reasons why I saw I think some people 379 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: track these things. I don't you know whether it's true 380 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: or not. That explaining giving up four catches on five 381 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 1: targets in the preseason, which sounds about it right, that's 382 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: not you know, in the preseason. As Mike Tomlin stated 383 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: after the game, Look, we're not scheming anything up. We're 384 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 1: doing our We're calling our our defensive plays off of 385 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: a note card. Yeah, there's like five defenses that we're 386 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: running here and that's it. And they're very basic things. 387 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 1: But we get to the game. I definitely want to 388 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: bring that up. If Flacco is gonna abuse those coverages 389 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: he's been on seeing, yeah, he's he's running against shelf stuff. 390 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: All is you know, for the last ten years, fifty 391 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: these backups that have been around the league will have 392 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: big numbers in the preseason across the league. Doesn't mean 393 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 1: this guy can't player, that guy can't play you're doing 394 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: things with your players. Maybe you're playing nothing. Hey, this game, 395 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna do nothing but zone. Next game, we're gonna 396 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: just play straight man. I think the way Tomlin said 397 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:20,959 Speaker 1: it is, we just want to see guys. Can they 398 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,360 Speaker 1: rush the pass her, can they cover you know not? 399 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: Can we out scheme the opponent? Can we turn away? 400 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: We want to put Spilene in tough situations and see 401 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 1: if he can handle if he sings or swims right, 402 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: right right, And he was thinking more than he was swimming, 403 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: in my opinion. But and I don't think any of 404 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: us look at him and say, what that's a superb 405 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,719 Speaker 1: athlete or former first round pick that he's worth waiting on, 406 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: you know. And speaking of picks, let's say Buddy Johnson 407 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: is very promising, you know after this year or whatever reason, 408 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: they love the kid. You don't have to bring Spileane 409 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 1: or you don't have to bring Schobert back, and you'd 410 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:55,959 Speaker 1: probably get a compic more than you paid for him. 411 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: You don't get a comic because you have to cut 412 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,360 Speaker 1: him well, right, right, right, I'm sorry. Trade for him. 413 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: He was not him again? Trade him again? Right? I mean, 414 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: there's still gonna be a market for him at that point, right, so, uh, 415 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: they don't much invested. No, like a six round draft pick, 416 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: not a big deal. But we will talk more about 417 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: that preseason game when we come back. He is Matt Williamson. 418 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 1: I'm Dale Leally. You're listening to the Drive here on 419 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. You're listening to the official voice of 420 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: Black and Gold Nation for Love and Black and Gold 421 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: s n R. Welcome back, Um, Dale Lelly here with 422 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. You were listening to the Drive, the morning 423 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: version of the Drives at least through the end of 424 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: next week. I think when they break camp, right, yeah, 425 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,360 Speaker 1: when they break quote unquote break camp when they leave 426 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: hines Field after the Lion back the regular city regular 427 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: season mode, which happened soon, which will be after the 428 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: Lions game. Um, and then the cutdown, Like after this 429 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: Lions game, they'll have a first cutdown. It's a real 430 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 1: small one. It's a five cut down, the five. Uh, 431 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 1: and I think later in the week they'll cut or 432 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 1: maybe right before the Carolina game. I'm trying to think. 433 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: I actually thought they were losing five in the next 434 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: coming days. No, it may be. That may be the case, 435 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: I think, because then after the after the Lions game, 436 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: they cut down and get big. They cut down to 437 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: seventy five. Getting rid of five guys isn't even to 438 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: be noteworthy. Cutting five is not the problem. Stopping at 439 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 1: five and good point. I brought this up many times, 440 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: but I always feel for those linebacker coaches and running 441 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: back coaches that it's getting close to the season and 442 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: you've got a room full of dudes you really want 443 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: to spend attention, pay attention to. But you're looking at 444 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: two guys in the corner that have no chance to 445 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: make it. But you can't just totally ignore them, you 446 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,199 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, get them out of here 447 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:45,719 Speaker 1: so I can gone straight on my guy. Yeah, you're 448 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: you're working with everybody, but you know, and and here's 449 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: you know, I think when you look at um this 450 00:21:55,880 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: get this pass games. Steelers beat the Eagles sixteen. Um. 451 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 1: There were a couple of guys that they signed last week, 452 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: particularly running backs. Yeah they were thin, Yeah they were thin. 453 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: These guys were basically jumping into the game. Now Tony Brooks, James, 454 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 1: he'd bet had been here with him. Yeah, But um, 455 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,199 Speaker 1: you know, Peque Guerrero, the other guys they signed at 456 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 1: a Hofstrau. He's bounce, trying to league a little bit, 457 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: and he had a couple of runs as well. Immediately 458 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 1: start getting asked about these guys, but you know, I 459 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: bet because they put up numbers, and you know what 460 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: about this guy, he has no chance, no chance. What 461 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: I take away with those guys at that position were 462 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: what if that would have been Blage? You know what 463 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: I mean, because at that point we'll talk with the game. 464 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: But at that point, the Steeler's offensive line was just 465 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: dominating the game. I took nothing out of the second 466 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: like Jalen Samuel's finished with ten carries for forty five 467 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: yards and left yardage on the field to be frank. Yeah, 468 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: I'm watching some of the cuts that he was making, like, 469 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: oh boy, he missed a couple of big holes, right. 470 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: I was sitting there thinking, what if it were below 471 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: as your snell, let alone Harris in that situation, it 472 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: would have been a lot nastier. Yeah. Um, So, you 473 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: know I thought that the Steelers as run blockers, you know, 474 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: I know people looked at that first half of them 475 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: when they had the quote unquote ones against the ones. 476 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 1: Um really a kid. The Steelers didn't have their ones 477 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: out there you had you had Coward and hag out 478 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 1: there with the with the starting offensive line right right, 479 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: so you get two backups out there. Even at that 480 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: you saw Nase Harris now I know the one that 481 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: there were two. Yeah, people focused on his first carry 482 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 1: when he got like six yards when he got he 483 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: got contacted two yards in the backfield and getting six 484 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: yards out of it, which is what's great. Great, that's 485 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: what that's what you that's what you drafted him in 486 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: the first round to do the beauties of what he is. 487 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: But he also had a couple of big runs there. 488 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: In the one that twelve yard run they got called 489 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: back hold that really didn't necessarily need to and he 490 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: created some of the yards on two and you can 491 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: see his explosion, this explosive this and his powerful strides 492 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 1: and how hard he will be to get down in 493 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: the open field. But I think the run blocking is 494 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 1: gonna be fine. I do too. I worry a little 495 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: bit more about green and protection than I did. Um 496 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: a couple of notes. I mean, they're just overriding themes 497 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: from that game. To me. I definitely think it helped 498 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: the Steelers that they had a game and more camp 499 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: under their belt. As opposed to the first one, and 500 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 1: what you said was like a degree day or it 501 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: was it was hot, you know. But I also think 502 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 1: that being set aside, it's also apparent to me that 503 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 1: the Steeler's depth is way better than the Eagles depth. 504 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: When that game the second half was just like I 505 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: think the Eagles are in ten plays and second half yeah, 506 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: I mean like I don't I don't know how you 507 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: judge some of these you know, back up cover guys 508 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 1: and stuff. On the they hardly played any snaps because 509 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: the Steelers just randomble down their throats. Um. Something we've 510 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: been talking about a lot is I think there's old 511 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 1: line depth that's pretty good. I mean, we'll see what 512 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: the starters look like, but they can feel too. They've 513 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: very serviceable offensive. We've eight or nine, yeah, no NFL stars, 514 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: but their NFL players. And I think it was also 515 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: very true on defense. I mean, everyone was obvious that 516 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: the old line in the second half was dominating the 517 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, but so was the defense, you know, 518 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: with Bugs and Davis and Rochet and you know, it 519 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: goes it goes back to what Kevin Colbert said early 520 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: in training camp. We feel like we have depth. It's 521 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: just not proven depth. And I think that's proving to 522 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: be right after two games, and you're gonna see something similar, 523 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: I think this week against the Lions. Sure, I watched 524 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: a little bit of their game last night against the Bills, 525 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 1: and I don't know that they have a ton of 526 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 1: no their depth. Their second they're they're searching for. They 527 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: got thirty five guys. You know, they're gonna be looking 528 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: to snag people off other teams. And Eagles are the 529 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: same way. And that's the thing. You know, when you 530 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: start looking at the season as a whole, some of 531 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: those depth guys are gonna have to play, oh without question. 532 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: I mean that's a problem with those teams. Yeah, you know, okay, 533 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 1: you may be fine for a while, but then when 534 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 1: you know, when attrition starts to come into play, and 535 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: you had all these cap problems like the Eagles, did 536 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 1: you gotta get rid of you know, five six guys 537 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: that were big money and you've got all these dead 538 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 1: cap space with Wentz and Alshon, Jeffrey and people like 539 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: that that aren't around. You don't have the depth. And 540 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: I mean that's what they're gonna try to develop. Um, 541 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: what I was gonna say about that too. I will say, 542 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: I mean the Eagles played their starters, you know, like 543 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: as good as the Steelers O line was. I mean, 544 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: they weren't putting Javon Hargrave and Fletcher Cox on their back, 545 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: you know what I mean in the game. And that's 546 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: who you're really gonna have to play against when it's 547 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: all said and done. But but you're not going to 548 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: typically do it with Joe Hagen exactly exactly, you know, 549 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 1: so it'll be different obviously in the regulars. And you 550 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: also scheme it up a little bit. That's the thing. 551 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: That's what I tried to explain. Like I think Rudolph 552 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: had ten past attempts or ten dropbacks in the game, 553 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: and he was pressured on four of them. I think 554 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: Haskins was pressured twice. People you know that the first 555 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: team offensive line, they didn't you know, they struggled against 556 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 1: the Eagles. And first of all, the Eagles have one 557 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: of the better defensive fronts. That's what they're all built. 558 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: That's what they're built. A Secondly, you didn't scheme up 559 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: any help at all for those guys, Like if you 560 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: win into a game, let's say with Joe Haggett right tackle. 561 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: Something happens there, you're gonna slide protections that way, you're 562 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: gonna you know, or if if and Coward is starting 563 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: left guard, either yeah, or if or if Kendrick you know, 564 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 1: if if if Kendrick Green's struggling with something, you're gonna 565 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 1: get him help. You're not gonna let him just okay, 566 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 1: you you block Fletcher Cox week, they're Brenny Graham, there's Cox, 567 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: there's hard Grave. They're better than we are up front. 568 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: We're gonna keep back saying we're gonna keep tight ends 569 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 1: in whatever it is. You know, we'll max protect him, 570 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: we'll get them, we'll get the ball out and our 571 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: receivers will be better than their cover guys, but you know, 572 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: hopefully and we'll make it work. And so there's none 573 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 1: of that. It's the same thing that that that Tomlin 574 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: talked about defensively, like you didn't do any thing to 575 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: say next. And I think they rested six defensive starters, right, 576 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: So if it was weak eate, then you said, well 577 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: they're half their starters are out on defense. Well they 578 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 1: might be a pick him against the Eagles, you know 579 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: what I mean? Like it's that's a a lot to overcome, 580 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: let alone, not help it with scheme and whatnot. A 581 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 1: couple of times too, just a side note, some of 582 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 1: the big plays which happens when you blitz a lot. 583 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: The Eagles timed them up well and hit you made 584 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: the Steels pay for a couple of blitzes to which 585 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: you know, if you don't have a mink out there, 586 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: it makes it a little harder. And you know, I 587 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 1: mean I'm not making excuses. I mean that's just what happened. Yeah, 588 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: I think you know, you look at it, and you know, 589 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: people again were um the seventy nine yard wide receiver screen, 590 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: it was Watkins, it goes for a touchdown. I mean, 591 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 1: that's a learning moment for Trey Norwood eitherough Norwood was 592 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: the one that screwed that up the most, but the 593 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: Steels also blitzed on that they were band short on guys, 594 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: you know in coverage, and Norway took a bad angle 595 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: and took a bad angle against a guy runs a 596 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: four or three five and saying that's a special speed 597 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: guy too. You know. He also ran by Sutton that 598 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: could have been a long touchdown that wasn't and Steal 599 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: got lucky on that one, but overall, I mean I 600 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: thought it was a dominant performance as the game went on, 601 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: Yeah there, I thought they just wore the Eagles down 602 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: in the trenches and yeah, you know, second half was 603 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: not very competitive. I was, you know, I was asking, 604 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: had that change your mind about Jaylen Samuel's No. I mean, 605 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: he had tank carries for forty five yards. He could 606 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: had ten for seventy if he if he had any juice. 607 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: And I'm not even the biggest Snell guy, but if 608 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: he would have been there in that whole situation, the 609 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: buzz around to the nation would be like, should he 610 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: clearly be the two? He just runs a huge holes, 611 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: now I did. I thought I liked what I saw 612 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: of Anthony McFarland. Um. I thought he had some nice runs. 613 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: I thought the run of the goal line was interesting. 614 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: That was the best thing he did. I thought, moving 615 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: and you know, found the whole There was nothing there 616 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,479 Speaker 1: in the middle. The middle was I mean it was, 617 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: it was clogged up. It was gonna be a two 618 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: yard loss, and he bounced it out and gets into 619 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: the end zone. I don't know that he makes that 620 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: play last year as a rookie. I don't think he does, 621 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: and I mentioned the post game show, so I don't 622 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: want to retract that statement. But there was still a 623 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: couple of runs where he gets tripped up a little easy, 624 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: you know, like you're looking to see all this grass 625 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: in front of him and you think, well, he's gonna go, 626 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: and then someone gets a hand on his ankle and 627 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: he stumbles and goes down. Like there's a lot of 628 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: almost he's a he's a space player. You get a 629 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: five ways to get him the ball in space. It's 630 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: just hard to do at this level, you know, and 631 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: his contact balance the boy if you do a little 632 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,239 Speaker 1: every couple of games, Oh yeah, I mean, and then 633 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: you got something because he's gonna get chunks. But he's 634 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: definitely getting more and more comfortable. Yeah, and that's clear. 635 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: There's a lot less wasted motion and you know, so no, 636 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: he's promising. And I think if you if you'd have 637 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,479 Speaker 1: been a running back from you know, start to finish, 638 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: you'd ended up with hunter and eight yards or something. Yeah, 639 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: he would have broken one at some point. Yeah, oh yeah, 640 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: those holes are big. And yeah, I thought to that point, 641 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: the second team you had on the second team offensive line, 642 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: you had Kevin Dawson at left guard and B. J. 643 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: Finneyott right. I thought they played really well. I did too, 644 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: And I think you said this one of us did 645 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: before the game that we were talking about high Smith 646 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: in the in the Hall of Fame game and I 647 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: said something like it looked like he didn't belong, like 648 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: he was Varse in the JV game, and we mentioned 649 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: Dots and was going to get a similar opportunity because 650 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: he's come in with the twos. Well, that's exactly what 651 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: he looked like. He was the best player in the field. 652 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: I would expect him to be with the ones this week. 653 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean he's a starting guard. He's a 654 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: message was set, message was delivered. Now you you stopped. 655 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: I think the fooling around is just about over now. 656 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: I mean, as long as he's not doing something, you know, 657 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: in terms of work ethic or not listening to you, 658 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: as long as he's not doing his part falling asleep 659 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: in the meetings. But he's a starting guard and they're 660 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: better with him on the field. There's no doubt I'll 661 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: be interested to see I want because Mike Tomlin did 662 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: say after the game that Ben Roethlisberger will play this weekend, 663 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: which means the whole starting line, which means your whole Yeah, 664 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: you're you're all your starters are gonna be out there 665 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: for at least probably a quarter. Do you think he'll 666 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: be that long? I think I'm guessing like two series 667 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: with with the offense and defense, however long it would be. 668 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: Usually that's a quarter. Okay. So, and this is like 669 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: the third preseason game most years, and it's the second 670 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: to last. Now, this would be the only time you 671 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: see all the artists on the field. You won't see 672 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: any of them in the final week against Carolina. I 673 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't think. I mean, I don't. I don't even think 674 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: we saw a very small sample of naj Harris in 675 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: that game. He was quickly out of there after two series, right, 676 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the running back depth was obviously exposed. 677 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: You know they were down the line on guys. That 678 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: doesn't make me throw Harris back in there at any means. 679 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,719 Speaker 1: I would imagine he'll play with the ones on Thursday. 680 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: I would shut everybody down for Week four, but that's 681 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: easier said than done. When once your roster has been 682 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: narrowed down, Yeah, you're gonna be down. You'll be at 683 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: seventy guys at that point, you still have enough to Yeah, 684 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: you know you're not devoided. It's gonna be a lot 685 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: of two though. I'm sure we'll have an extensive quarterback 686 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: conversation over the next couple of days. Haskins, Rootolf all that. 687 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: But I threw this out the Adam in the postgame show. 688 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: I would play Haskins maybe every snap of the final 689 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: preseason game. Yeah, this is yours. You're not the two, 690 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: but you can start this game to two minutes dull 691 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: at the end, situational football, you're the guys start to 692 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: finish and sorry, week one, you're gonna be the You're 693 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: gonna be unactive, but we're gonna we want we were 694 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: excited about you. We're gonna give you that opportunity. Let's 695 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: dig into that more. In the next second, he is 696 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Alli. You're listening to the drive 697 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back to more 698 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: with more to talk, actually to talk just about that. 699 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: There we go, right after this Black and Gold football 700 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: leaves here. Seven you're listening to s n R. Welcome 701 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: back on Dale. Well, we'll with Matt Williamson, and as 702 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: I promised, Matt we would talk about the quarterback. Yeah, absolutely, 703 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: that's the hot topic. It is so the headline and yeah, um, 704 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph has done nothing, in my eyes to lose 705 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: the number two jobs. Agreed. Agree. I think they should 706 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: be very happy with what he's put out there. I 707 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: think that people are looking at this well. Haskins, you know, 708 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: he was sixteen and twenty two and he led four 709 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: straight scoring drives. We just we just talked about how 710 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: the Eagles JV team was not It was very JV 711 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: and his line dominated and you know, right, I mean, 712 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: you have great receivers and you know, but but they 713 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: were running the ball will it made it. It made 714 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: life very easy on He finished the sixteen two hundred 715 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,919 Speaker 1: sixty one yards a touchdown, a one oh eight point 716 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: three passer rating. He'd be great. You can isolate the 717 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: quarterback position. I thought he played very, very well, Haskins. 718 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph was eight of nine for seventy seven yards. 719 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: Uh didn't lead any scores scoring drives, but there were 720 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 1: two holding penalties that pushed him back. They were hard 721 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 1: to overcome. There no question about that. He's playing against 722 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 1: Philadelphia's ones. Oh yeah, Philadelphia's defense was better personnel wise 723 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: than the Steelers offense. Yeah, you know with that including 724 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: Claypool and Deontadian out there. I mean they just said 725 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: they're ones. I mean Fletcher Cox and their stars and 726 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: Nelson and you know those guys are out there. Um. 727 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: A couple notes is you said this after the first 728 00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 1: game that if you were a Mason guy before, you 729 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: probably still are. If you were a Haskins guy before, 730 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: you probably still are. I think Haskins had the better 731 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: game too, but that doesn't mean Mason lost. Like there 732 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: doesn't have to be a loser in this situation. It 733 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: makes me crazy. Here's my thinking on this whole situation. 734 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,399 Speaker 1: If I'm Mike Tomlin, I'm looking at this and going, 735 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: first of all, it doesn't matter who's two and who's 736 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: three when the season starts, well does the only way 737 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: the only thing that matters is on game day exactly. 738 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: Because here's the thing. Ben Roethlisberger doesn't practice on Wednesdays. 739 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,959 Speaker 1: That's going to continue this season. They've They've gone back 740 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 1: to his training camp practice schedule of full day of practice, 741 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 1: partial day of practice, complete day off of practice. It's 742 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: what you do with the thirty nine year old quarters 743 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean Ben's lazy, folks, or he doesn't want 744 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,479 Speaker 1: to work, or you know, he's out there. He's still 745 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 1: at practice, he's still in all the meetings. He's just 746 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 1: they're just saving his boss. Yeah, he's on a pitch count. Um, 747 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 1: So on Wednesdays, the two and the three both get 748 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 1: snaps or whatever. Right, the only the only thing they 749 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: are going to make this team. Yeah, three guys are 750 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 1: they are? There are three quarterback team that believe in 751 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 1: it as an organization. Um, the only thing that matters 752 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: in is who's two and who's three on game day 753 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 1: because three's inactive. If I'm looking at it from that perspective, 754 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: and I'm like Tom that I'm saying, Okay, Mason Rudolph 755 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: has been with us for the last he's now in 756 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: the year four, right, so he knows he's played with Juju, 757 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: he's played with Claypool, he's played with with with Johnson, 758 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: he's played with Washington. He knows he's guys. He's played 759 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 1: nular season in the Steeler uniform. He's got more of 760 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: a rapport with these players than Haskins does. And of 761 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 1: course everybody lumped him and Duck together like they're the 762 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 1: same guy that they're not. Absolutely they're not. They're totally different. 763 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,360 Speaker 1: Kevin Colbert said it at the end of that season. 764 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:03,240 Speaker 1: He said, look, we knew when Ben got hurt defensively, 765 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 1: we had to give up with Mason in there, we 766 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 1: had to give up seventeen or fewer points to have 767 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 1: a chance to win. And that doesn't mean you couldn't 768 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 1: win a game where he gave up. That has to 769 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,879 Speaker 1: be that's the way you play pairing for it. Does 770 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 1: that mean we play faster? We played lower? You know? Right, 771 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 1: he said, when when we went to Duck changed that 772 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 1: number to thirteen, that tells you all you need to know. Folks. Yeah, 773 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: you know they think you're gonna lose giving up two 774 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,879 Speaker 1: touchdowns in this league, that's a hard way to win. 775 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: It's a hard way to win. You saw his first 776 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 1: start out against the Chargers. They played a very conservative 777 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 1: game offensively, first one to four teams in the game, right, right, 778 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: And you know, so what did Tomlin's even say. He's like, 779 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 1: everyone's like, wow, you might have something. Marriage didn't kill us. 780 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: You didn't kill us, right, that's what you're looking for 781 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 1: in those situations. I think with so to me, rudolphs 782 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,399 Speaker 1: you're two. I don't I don't know. I don't know 783 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: that Haskins could do anything in this preseason to change that. 784 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,360 Speaker 1: I don't know they could either, because there's what's the 785 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 1: what's the game by there's nothing to gain. But and 786 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 1: the other part of the equation is you don't have 787 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: Haskins under contract next year. So now if you elevate 788 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: him over Rudolph, who is under contract next year, if 789 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,839 Speaker 1: I'm haskins agent at the end of this season, I'm going, well, 790 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 1: we want more money than Rudolph because he was the 791 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 1: two and Rudolph was the three. So and there's nothing 792 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,799 Speaker 1: to be nothing to be gained by this by doing 793 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 1: it in a regular season, unless Roethlisberger gets hurt, And 794 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 1: then there's nothing that says you can't you can't go 795 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 1: into a week. Okay, Roethlisberger gets hurt in the game, 796 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: you finished the game with Rudolph, you come out the 797 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 1: next week and you say, Okay, we're gonna start Haskins, 798 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 1: and so you can do that. You can do that. 799 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter who's two and who's three. This is 800 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 1: how I would handle it. And subject to change, of course, 801 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: Ben plays a fair amount or as much as he 802 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,359 Speaker 1: wants or whatever. This upcoming game, the other two bring 803 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: it on home in a normal traditional fashion. As I 804 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 1: said before, Dwayne, you're the guy for the final one, 805 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 1: and we'll give you a decent supporting cast, but you're 806 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,399 Speaker 1: gonna play against bad guys. I want you to play 807 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,800 Speaker 1: every snap and treat this like it's a start, and 808 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 1: then you're gonna be an active in week one when 809 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 1: Rudolph is the two. And with the logic of like 810 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 1: you said, if Ben gets hurt in a game, I 811 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 1: want Rudolph to bring it home. I mean, if you're 812 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 1: losing by four team when he hurts, you're probably still 813 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 1: gonna lose, you know, no matter who takes over. But 814 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 1: if it's a close game and I want a game 815 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,839 Speaker 1: manager and I want to trust that guy to get 816 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: me out of that game, it's definitely Rudolph over Haskins 817 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 1: right now. I was just seeing a lot more real 818 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 1: NFL snaps in a Steeler uniform with these guys, with 819 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 1: this coaching staff. If heaven forbid, Ben gets hurt Saturday 820 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 1: against the Lions and is going to be out for 821 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 1: the year or misstime, I might go with Hasket it's 822 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 1: a totally different conversation. Then it's gonna be a competition 823 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,800 Speaker 1: the rest of the way. Yes, then that's that's the 824 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,959 Speaker 1: way it's gonna be because I think if Haskins hits 825 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,800 Speaker 1: his ceilings higher than read Rudolph correct. I I agree 826 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: with that. There's a reason why one was a first 827 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 1: draft pick and he has the one was the third 828 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 1: round draft. But those are two different scenarios completely. And 829 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 1: your point about Wednesday's is great. It's not like Haskin's 830 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 1: gonna do nothing throughout the week, so you know, I 831 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 1: think the year just spending the year in the system. 832 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 1: You know, he Haskin said a couple of weeks ago 833 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 1: when we spoke to him that you know, he's been 834 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:25,360 Speaker 1: told some things by the Steeler coaching staff regarding his future, 835 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 1: but he's going to keep that to himself. Can I 836 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 1: go down the road with you, because I'm not sure 837 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: if you know this answer and put you on the spot. 838 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 1: But I'm almost positive that Caskin's contract is a little 839 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 1: odd now because he got cut. I think he's a 840 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 1: restricted free agent after the year, so therefore you can 841 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 1: put the original tender on him. So if someone comes 842 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 1: and plucks him, you get a first I believe. I 843 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: think that's true. So the reality is he's under contract too, 844 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 1: He's not he's not going anywhere. He's not going anywhere. 845 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 1: If you can, if you have the power or to 846 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,319 Speaker 1: put a restricted tender on tender on him, even if 847 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,799 Speaker 1: he's awesome, if he's a top ten quarterback this year, 848 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,359 Speaker 1: you can, you know, tender him as a restricted guy, 849 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 1: and if somebody wants to pluck them, they got to 850 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 1: give you a first. Yeah, he's The reality is contract. Yeah, 851 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 1: so that's a huge advantage. Or you can talk to 852 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 1: him right now and signed a three year deal. I mean, 853 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 1: if you felt like it for that, I mean, you 854 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,400 Speaker 1: could put the second round tender on him. He's a quarterback, uh, 855 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 1: which makes his salary three and a half something like that. 856 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 1: But can't you just put the original one on him? 857 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 1: You can, but that that pumps up even a little 858 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: bit more. But then if somebody signs, if somebody were 859 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: to try to sign him off your roster, you get 860 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 1: a second round pick for him, or you can match it, 861 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 1: or you can match if you love him, you can 862 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: match it. But you're getting nice compensation for a guy 863 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 1: you picked up for nothing. A year. You would you 864 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 1: take a second round pick right now for Dwayne Haskers. Absolutely, 865 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 1: of course, that's that's just that's that's excited. That's a 866 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 1: free second round pick. We've talked to you know, when 867 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 1: I again when I talked to Jake Return on your investment. 868 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,359 Speaker 1: We mentioned my conversation with Joe Hayden last week about 869 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,319 Speaker 1: the brock Ostwaller situation. That's what the Browns did. They 870 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 1: traded for a second They traded here's cap space for 871 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 1: a second round pick, for a second round pick. Here, 872 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 1: here's the second round pick for nothing. That could be 873 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,440 Speaker 1: a top fifty pick. It could be. I mean, if 874 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 1: you're a team that doesn't have a quarterback and you're 875 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 1: trading you you're you're signing Dwayne Haskins, your second round 876 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:21,320 Speaker 1: picks probably pretty high. Probably it's probably not the Chiefs, Yeah, 877 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,799 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, right right, right, No, So 878 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,760 Speaker 1: they're in the driver's season. My point going forward with Haskins, 879 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 1: it's not like, boy, if he gets out there and 880 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 1: it's great, he's gonna be a twenty million dollar guy 881 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 1: in the free agent market and you're never gonna and 882 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 1: Poe's gone, that's not gonna happen, right, But he's been 883 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 1: really good. No, he's been He's done everything they've asked. Again, 884 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 1: sixteen and two D sixty one yards. I'd like to 885 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 1: see him push the ball more of it in this game. 886 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,800 Speaker 1: But yes, there were you know, some of it was 887 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 1: off script. I mean the touchdown pass, the Eagles jumped 888 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 1: off side, so he knows that that. You know, he's 889 00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 1: give him great credit for that. I mean, there's where 890 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 1: with all to see it. But he could have thrown 891 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,919 Speaker 1: at the fire fire move or I mean, like if 892 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,279 Speaker 1: you go if you saw the play from up top 893 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 1: like I did, there were three guys open in the end. 894 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 1: It was almost like it was almost like the Eagles 895 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,400 Speaker 1: quit playing a little bit in the secondary. They were 896 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 1: the only ones in the end zone. Looks like we're sailors. 897 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:21,360 Speaker 1: So making that throw wasn't upper level quarterback. But and 898 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:22,880 Speaker 1: he had to wear us all to see it. I 899 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:27,279 Speaker 1: also think that much like we're crediting Joe Flacco for 900 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 1: picking apart, uh, you know, basic defenses, I think Haskins 901 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 1: is capable of doing that at this point in his career. 902 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,279 Speaker 1: Um plus, they had an amazing running game going, you know, 903 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 1: but it's a little different. You know, you could you 904 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,959 Speaker 1: could say, well, Rudolph was playing against basic defenses. Yeah, 905 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 1: but the guys, but the guys were better the guys 906 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,920 Speaker 1: He's like the guys, He's playing against our better players 907 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,239 Speaker 1: by far, by far. And really he was at a 908 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 1: disadvantage with his personnel around him, more so than Haskins was. 909 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,400 Speaker 1: Haskin was at an advantage. Like what I'm saying is 910 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 1: in the when Haskins was in the game, the ten 911 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,720 Speaker 1: dudes he were playing with, we're better than the Eagles eleven. 912 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 1: It's like he was back at Ohio State and that's 913 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:13,360 Speaker 1: still he plays. But when Rudolph was out there, the 914 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,400 Speaker 1: ten dudes he were playing with were worse than the 915 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 1: Eagles eleven. In my opinion, was out there and her great. 916 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,240 Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, they're they they're running 917 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 1: with their ones. But I still think they both have 918 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 1: done really well if you flipped the script, and I 919 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,799 Speaker 1: think both of them are playing very good football right now. Yeah, 920 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,799 Speaker 1: I think that's that's something I think if if if 921 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 1: you're a Steeler fan, you're looking at this going okay, 922 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 1: that you know, can one of these two be your 923 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 1: quarterback next year? Sure? I don't know. About that. I 924 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 1: think one of them could be the starting quarterback next year? 925 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,880 Speaker 1: Maybe are they the there's this is a different situation 926 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 1: than is one of them the long term starters. Completely 927 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 1: different conversation. Were saying, can they be Can one of 928 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,880 Speaker 1: these Can one of these guys be your your bridge 929 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,480 Speaker 1: next year? Absolutely? With the first rounder of coming in. 930 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,360 Speaker 1: I had somebody throw that up to me on my 931 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,040 Speaker 1: on my message board. Actually he's during the game. We 932 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 1: do a live chat during the game on d K 933 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,840 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Sports, and guys came up to me. I'm tired 934 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 1: of saying that. Route of people on this site saying 935 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:16,320 Speaker 1: Rudolph's the future, I'm like, well, who said that? Yeah, 936 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,359 Speaker 1: he said, you've said it. He said he's the only 937 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,920 Speaker 1: one under contract next year, and he you know, he's 938 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,360 Speaker 1: gonna be a Steeler. That's not the long term future. 939 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,759 Speaker 1: Long term is is five years down the road. Long 940 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,239 Speaker 1: Next year is not long term. He's gonna get paid 941 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 1: by the Steelers to play for he will be on 942 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 1: their roster next year. That doesn't mean he's gonna be 943 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 1: an eighteen year starter. No, it doesn't mean I think 944 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,239 Speaker 1: he's gonna be their starter in two years from that, right, 945 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 1: or even in the game one next year or whatever. 946 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,960 Speaker 1: But he's on. He's on the Both of those guys 947 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 1: will be on the roster next year. Now, will there 948 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,680 Speaker 1: also be a first round pick on the roster or 949 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:54,239 Speaker 1: a veteran. Certainly that's that's on the total. It would 950 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 1: be hard for me to be confident enough for Haskins 951 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 1: or Rudolph to think they found one. I don't know 952 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,800 Speaker 1: what I mean other than Ben getting injured and missing 953 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 1: massive amounts of time and then somebody getting off somebody 954 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,400 Speaker 1: and just runs with it. You know, I don't know 955 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,440 Speaker 1: how you could go in the next off season and 956 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,480 Speaker 1: say one of these two is either a bust or 957 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,400 Speaker 1: not worth it to us, or is the answer like, 958 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:19,719 Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna get either one of these 959 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,319 Speaker 1: because I don't think either one of them has done 960 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 1: anything in this preseason to show that they can't do it. 961 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, they're Yeah. I mean we often talked 962 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,759 Speaker 1: about the backups around the league. Both these guys are 963 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,680 Speaker 1: top quarterbacks on the planet right now. You know the 964 00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,239 Speaker 1: Steelers have three of them. Yeah, you know, um, but 965 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,399 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean they're top twelve. And it goes back 966 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,839 Speaker 1: to that depth that we talked about. Yeah, exactly. They 967 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,399 Speaker 1: have a lot of places. Let's take a yeah, let's 968 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 1: take a break here. We'll come back with our two 969 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,640 Speaker 1: after this. He is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Allett. You're 970 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:55,759 Speaker 1: listening to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. From 971 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,560 Speaker 1: Bradshaw and the Steel Curtain to Roethlisberger and Flitzburg. We 972 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,840 Speaker 1: are always talking black and gold on s n R.