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Wherever you 11 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 1: may be and however you may be watching or listening, 12 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: Thanks for making us part of your day. Ryan, our producer, 13 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: went to the Cubs game last night, watched the Mets 14 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: meltdown getting the field for Chicago and Wrigley Field. What 15 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: a great city it is. Jmax. The Athletic is that 16 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: subscribvishing business. You know they got some really good writers there. 17 00:00:59,600 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 3: Oh yeah. 18 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: And we've always known there's a gap between the best 19 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: quarterbacks and the second third tier quarterbacks or the best coaches. 20 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: That's obvious, right, But the Athletic pulled twenty nine coaches, executives, 21 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: general managers, and they pulled them on the best front 22 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: offices upstairs, the guys in the nice boxes during the game, 23 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: and the camera occasionally shows. And the top ten might 24 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: as well be the hurd hierarchy. Eagles, Ravens, Rams, Bills, Chiefs, Buccaneers, Packers, Seahawks, 25 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: Line Niners. I mean, it's the hurd hierarchy, basically. And 26 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: I don't buy the Packers are lucky to hit on 27 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: three straight quarterbacks or the Eagles coincidentally have another stacked roster. 28 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: The gap between front offices is as large or larger 29 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: than owners, quarterbacks and coaches. I mean, look what Jim 30 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: Harbaugh's done in twenty games with the Chargers worse to 31 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: me best team in the league. What's most interesting to 32 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: me in this poll is those top ten teams. They've 33 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: all got, you know, quarterbacks, top quarterbacks. Isn't it fascinating 34 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: how each team landed the quarterback the most important position. 35 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: Each took an entirely different route. Let's start with the Eagles. 36 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 1: It's fascinating. So the Eagles, they go to the second round, 37 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: a smaller quarterback, Jalen Hurts, an athletic quarterback at the time, 38 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: they had Carson Wentz moved off him, and they decide 39 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna build an offense around this kid who's incredibly 40 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: strong for his size and do some different things that 41 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: a lot of teams aren't willing to do. We're gonna 42 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: go contrariyanto the market they had big, tall, range, Carson wentz, 43 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: We're gonna go smaller, strong athlete who's better moving initially 44 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: than throwing. Second in this athletic poll is the Ravens. 45 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: They passed on Lamar Jackson wants themselves in the first round, 46 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: and then they decided, let's go for this hyper athletic 47 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: kid from Louisville. At the time, remember his mom was 48 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: representing him as very different, and we're not gonna play 49 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: him initially. We're gonna wait a while, let him watch 50 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,839 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco, but we're gonna roll the dice on this 51 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: super athletic quarterback, perhaps the most athletic quarterback probably that's 52 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: ever played. The Rams. Rams didn't do it that way. 53 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 1: The Rams had a Super Bowl quarterback. They're like, we're 54 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: going to trade him to Detroit and get Matt Stafford, 55 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: who actually has never won a playoff game, but we 56 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: believe he's one of the best throwers of the football 57 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: in the league. And we're actually going to pay for 58 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: Stafford and Jared Goff to make it happen. The Bills 59 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: Bills different. They went to a small college, they go 60 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: get Josh Allen, they trade up for him, and we're 61 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: gonna need you to play your raw with a huge upside, 62 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: but we're gonna need you to play really quick. First 63 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: year was bumpy, second year, third year got magical. How 64 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: about Kansas City, Yeah, we're gonna get this quarterback from 65 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: a conference, the Big Twelve that most of their quarterbacks 66 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: stink and don't work in the NFL. We're gonna trade 67 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: up for him. But unlike Buffalo, we're not gonna have 68 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 1: him play. We're gonna have him sit and learn the system. 69 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: Get his mechanics right, Alex Smith, learn the system behind 70 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: a great mentor. We do not need you to play 71 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: early at all. How about the Buccaneers, they're on this list. 72 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: Buccaneers said, you know what I'm gonna do. There's this 73 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: guy little Cocky, there's this guy Baker Mayfield. We're gonna 74 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: give you like a one year prove it deal and 75 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 1: see if you got anything. And yeah, we're not really sure, 76 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: but we kin Sean McVay like you you got the 77 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: Browns of the playoffs. And so the Buccaneers go, we're 78 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: gonna go with Baker Mayfield, and now they've signed a 79 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: new long term contract. Green Bay is it totally differently. 80 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: We're gonna draft you, Jordan Love and for the second time, 81 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: sit you for three years. You won't take a meaningful snap. 82 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: The Seahawks made this list. They go, and we're gonna 83 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: go into free agency. Yeah yeah, I mean, we had 84 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: Geno Smith. We're gonna go a little younger, a little 85 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: more athletic. We're gonna bring in eventually an offensive coordinator, 86 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: Clint Kubiak, who works very well with quarterbacks. We're gonna 87 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: go free agent. The Lions do it differently. They're like, okay, 88 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 1: we'll give up Matt Stafford. We'll make a trade with 89 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: the Rams. The Rams will pay for it. Gof's pretty good. 90 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: Not Stafford, but pretty good. And as the Rams pay 91 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: for the contract, we're gonna build a roster and take 92 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: all those draft picks and make us into a powerhouse. 93 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: And the forty nine ers did it totally differently. They 94 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: went and gave up a ton of picks for a 95 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: first round quarterback and very quickly said ooops, yeah, yeah, 96 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: that's not working. And then they got lucky. They drafted 97 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: a guy they passed on multiple times, the entire league 98 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: passed on five, six, seven, eight times, and they got 99 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: brought purty. And this proves there's multiple routes to the 100 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: mountaintop for the most important position in the National Football 101 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: League and in life. It reminds me when Live the 102 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: Live Golf Tour disrupted the PGA Tour. Rory was loyal 103 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: to the PGA, Phil wanted to be a disruptor. He left, 104 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: and Bryson Deshamba everybody wanted him, and he's like, you 105 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: know what, I want the freedom in flexibility to build 106 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: my brand in YouTube and the PGA E're not gonna 107 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: like that, and Live's going to allow it. And by 108 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: the way, all three none were wrong. Each chose a 109 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: different path for different reasons, and all are okay. The 110 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: only absolute truth in the NFL when it comes to quarterback, 111 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: because I just showed you the top ten teams and 112 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: they all had a different route. There's no one way 113 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: to do it. The only absolute truth. If you find 114 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: yourself as a GM or a coach, ear left tackle, 115 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: or even a fan, try trying to convince yourself you 116 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: have a franchise quarterback, Well, you know he works really hard, 117 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: he's a winner. I don't know, he's feisty. If he 118 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: doesn't have an elite next level trade, you don't have. 119 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: The guy said, when Margot Robbie walks into a movie scene, 120 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: you don't have to explain it gonna be a good scene, 121 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: good traits Margot Robbie. So that's the only rule in 122 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: the NFL seventh round trade free agency draft from a 123 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: bad program, rest, sit behind Alex Smith, play him immediately. 124 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: Million different ways to do it, but what you have 125 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: to do to win a super Bowl is do it 126 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: however it is. You gotta find a guy. The good 127 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: news is there's a lot of different routes. All Right, 128 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football. I don't think it's gonna be a 129 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: close game. Green Bay is facing Dallas, and green Bay 130 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: is great and in a bad mood because they just 131 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: lost to Cleveland, and Dallas isn't necessarily in a bad mood, 132 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: They're just in a bad spot. Week staff week roster 133 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: and Ceedee Lamsdell hurt. Micah Parsons now is returning to 134 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: Big D and Micah says, hey, no hard feelings. I 135 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: can't wait. 136 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 4: Dallas loves me, you know, I think they're gonna give 137 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 4: me a good ride of applause. And you know, there's 138 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 4: no hard feelings there, at least for me. And I 139 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 4: think it's gonna be like I said, it's gonna be 140 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 4: a great atmosphere. I think, you know, this is some 141 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 4: of the best football you're going to get in Dallas. 142 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 4: When it's Sunday night against you know, a rivalry. 143 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: Opponent, there should be no hard feelings. In that Athletic 144 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: survey of out front offices, Dallas got no vote of 145 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: the twenty nine people. Green Bay got eleven of twenty 146 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: nine right. Eleven people said they're a top five organization. 147 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley Giants to the Eat Eagles Super Bowl Ring 148 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 1: first year Stafford to the Rams from the Lions Super 149 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: Bowl Ring first year, sho Hey O Tawni Angels to 150 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: the Dodgers World Series title first year all in the 151 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: first year. Some people are just too talented to mire 152 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: in dysfunction. And that's what Dallas is. There's a lot 153 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 1: of you hear all this altruism. I am going to 154 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: go down with a ship, be loyal. Oh that's nonsense. 155 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: You end up like Mike Trout and Barry Sanders. You 156 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: end up surrounding yourself with secondary executives, managers, coaches, people 157 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: hitting in front of you, left guards blocking for you. 158 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 1: That's why I've said with Joe Burrow, Joe, you got 159 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 1: to talk to your agent and consider demanding a trade. Cincinnati, 160 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: Carson Palmer said enough is enough. So I mean Kevin 161 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: Garnett's biggest regret. Remember when he got to the South 162 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: he said, my only regret in the NBA I didn't 163 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: I didn't leave Minnesota at the time dysfunctional earlier. So 164 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: Micah Parsons in this deal should have absolutely no regrets. 165 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: It's one of those Saquon Barkley moves, Matt Stafford moves, 166 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: and Shoe Hao Tani moves. He is leaving dysfunction and 167 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: an average roster and an average staff and he is 168 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: upgrading across the board. And Uncle Colin life rule number 169 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: seven or eight, I forgot ride the wave in life. 170 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: Don't fight the current. The packers, they win, they coach, 171 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: they draft, they develop. You go to Green Bay. You 172 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: ride that momentum, that culture, and that winning wave. Sadly 173 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: in Dallas last twenty years for the great players. It 174 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: feels like you're fighting a current. All right, j Mac 175 00:10:56,080 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: bringing the energy today tonight there's a fascinating and we 176 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: won't spend a ton of time on it, but I 177 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: will tell you you and I are on opposite sides tonight. 178 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: Yeah on the NFL game. 179 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 5: Wait, why are we not spending a ton of time 180 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 5: on it? It's a great matchup. 181 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: No, No, Seattle goes to Arizona. You like Seattle? 182 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 5: I do. 183 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: I think it is a trap bet. It's the biggest 184 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: trap bet on the board. So Seattle in a blowout 185 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: win where I mean literally just rested people. So in 186 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: an insane win, the easiest win of the year, perhaps 187 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 1: short week division rival against an Arizona team that out 188 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: played and should have beaten San Francisco, but the fans fancy, Uh, 189 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: Seahawks blew them out. Niners beat Arizona. If you watch 190 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: the Niners game, Arizona had them beat out, gained them 191 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: more yards yards per play. Arizona is a tough division rival. 192 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 1: They've always given this to division problems. Now they're at home, 193 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: short week Seahawks. Maybe take their foot off the gas 194 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: after a blowout like college level win. 195 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 5: That's very none of that I can refute. I like it. 196 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 5: My issue is, you know, James Connor is like the 197 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 5: emotional center of that team and he goes down out 198 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 5: for the season. That's a big loss. In addition, their 199 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 5: secondary is real beat up. Will Johnson, the young kid 200 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 5: out of Michigan who's having any time decision. Yeah, he's injured. 201 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 5: And Sam Darnold numbers against the play action have been amazing. 202 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 5: I think Seattle kind of wins this one handling. I'm 203 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 5: higher than mark out on Seattle. I think they're a 204 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 5: legit well, you. 205 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: Know, I like it, threat, you know, I like Seattle. 206 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,599 Speaker 1: I think when you played division rivals in loud stadiums 207 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: with capable quarterbacks, coming off a lollipop win against the 208 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: team that played out play the Niners and lost to me, 209 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: it feels so trappy. 210 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 5: I have some Kyler numbers we'll talk about later against 211 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 5: Seattle last year, hint, they were awful. 212 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: Well, the things we build our future around are worth protecting. 213 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: Greg Cosell in one hour. 214 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 215 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 2: and noone eastern nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 216 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 217 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 6: Hey Steve Covino and I'm Rich David and together we're 218 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 6: Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. 219 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 7: You could catch us weekdays from five to seven pm Eastern, 220 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 7: two to four Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and of 221 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 7: course the iHeartRadio app. 222 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: Why should you listen to Covino and Rich. 223 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 7: We talk about everything life, sports, relationships, what's going on 224 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 7: in the world. 225 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 6: We have a lot of fun talking about the stories 226 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 6: behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture, 227 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 6: stories that well other shows don't seem to have the 228 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 6: time to discuss. 229 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 7: And the fact that we've been friends for the last 230 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 7: twenty years and still work together. 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Major League Baseball's testing now is 243 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: better than ever, and the talent in the sport is 244 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: better than ever. And this is unbelievable. The Mariners clinched 245 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: the American League West last night. They beat Colorado Cal Rawley, 246 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: who's squats. He's a switch hitting catcher. Mostly catchers have 247 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: shorter careers because they're squatting for three and a half hours. 248 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: The ability to hit fifty nine and sixty home runs 249 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: for that position is unbelievable. He hit two last night. 250 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: And here's the play by play of both. 251 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 2: On the line up in the one. 252 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 8: One swinging a drive, keep the right field. 253 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 5: Holy Smoke Squares is. 254 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 8: Gonna land up pertect right field number fifty nine for 255 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 8: cal Raleigh. He is just tied Babe Ruth for the 256 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 8: most home runs in a single season in American League history. 257 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 8: The chance of MVP, MVP, the stretch of the pitch, 258 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 8: the cow swinging a drive, keep the right field there. 259 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 8: It is not for sixty. The modern day bam veto 260 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 8: has just tied Bay Bruces record of sixty home runs 261 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 8: for third all time in American League history. Col Rowley 262 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 8: with his second home run of the ball game fifty 263 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 8: nine in the first number sixty. 264 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: For a catcher to do that is absolutely remarkable. But 265 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: you're seeing remarkable all over baseball. The playoffs start Tuesday. 266 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: It's a global sport and it's never been this talent rich. 267 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: There's four guys now with fifty plus jacks, none of 268 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: them on cattle steroids. This sport now is incredibly tested. 269 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: Shoe Heeo Tawny is an elite pitcher, hitter, base dealer, 270 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: power on base. Every team has multiple guys throwing one 271 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: hundred plus miles an hour. The Cincinnati Reds, you used 272 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: to have a great team in the seventies. One of 273 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: their big tough guys with Johnny Bench. He's four inches 274 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: shorter than the current Red shortstop La de la Cruz, 275 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: who is an athletic freak. Last season he had almost 276 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: seventy stolen bases twenty five dingers. The bottom line here 277 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: is for cal Rawly to do what he is doing 278 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: for that position is insane. So this year he's the 279 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: first catcher to hit sixty, But then again, Shohy last 280 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: season was the first player to go fifty to fifty. 281 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: Aaron Judge this year just passed Bea and DiMaggio for 282 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: the Yankees in an all time Yankee home run list, 283 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: and if you put Yogi Barra next to Aaron Judge, 284 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: they don't look like the same athlete. So major League 285 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: Baseball is The playoffs start Tuesday. I'll take the Brewers 286 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: and the Mariners in the World Series. Old timers like 287 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: to say, there's a way to play the game. Yes, smarter, faster, 288 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: more athletic, ability, more global than ever. You watch those 289 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: baseball playoffs. Everybody's throwing ninety nine and up. Everybody can hit, 290 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: Catchers have power, pitchers, o taani have. It just kind 291 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: of remarkable what's happening in baseball. It is exploded and 292 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 1: baseball has smartly sped the game up, taken away the 293 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: defensive shift, more runs, more runners, more stolen bases, more hits. 294 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: Incredible talent. I know we like to be romantics in baseball. 295 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: Incredible talent in this sport on display every night. Playoffs 296 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 1: again start Tuesday. Jmack with the news. 297 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 2: No, no turn on the news. This is the Herdline News. 298 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 5: Let's start with the struggling Kansas City Chiefs. Colin. They 299 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 5: are not looking very super Bowl ready. One and two 300 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 5: start to the season. Whooped thee Damn do they beat 301 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 5: the Giants and did not look impressive. Patrick Mahomes needs 302 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 5: knows they need to change things up when they go 303 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 5: against Lamar Jackson led offense. 304 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 9: I think for us, we got to start faster. I 305 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 9: think every game we've we've kind of said that we 306 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 9: haven't really got to do that. And we were moving 307 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 9: the ball early in the game last week, but we 308 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 9: weren't were settling with field goals. And when you play 309 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 9: teams that are that are really good, have dynamic quarterbacks 310 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 9: like the Ravens do, you got to get to turn 311 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 9: those into touchdowns and that that will not only put 312 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 9: pressure on them, but it unleash his spags. They'll be 313 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 9: able to do what he wants to do. 314 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: I kind of if it goes to three like Kansas 315 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: City here, if Worthy plays, I know it's I know, I. 316 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 5: Love this Xavior Worthy Savior stuff. 317 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: I mean, like he's saying Savior, I'm holding a legitimate 318 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: number one or two receivers. 319 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 5: He's not a number one, he's a two, coman two. Listen, 320 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 5: I'm looking at the Chiefs depth chart. Okay, you tell 321 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 5: me which one of these guys is a game breaker. Pacheco, 322 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 5: Kareem Hunt, Hollywood Brown, Travis Kelce, Taekwan Thornton, Noah Greg Colin. 323 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 5: That is like a that's like a Carolina Panthers level 324 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 5: offense right there. That there's no studs there. I'll say 325 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 5: Thornton has looked the best of their scope. 326 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 1: Position guys, well, Baltimore's going to be on a short week. 327 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: They've got their own injuries to deal with. Outside of 328 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: Dave Flowers, They've they've got tight ends I like, and 329 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: I don't think I think they'll play up. I think 330 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 1: this game is going to be low scoring because I 331 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: think Kansas City has always done pretty well against Lamar. 332 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: They've always done They've always done pretty well against Lamar. 333 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: And I think Baltimore will play an incredibly inspired defensive 334 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 1: effort despite limitations, and Kansas City doesn't score a lot. 335 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: This game feels twenty three to twenty, twenty four to 336 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: twenty one. To me, I'm taking the points in this 337 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: rivalry game. Well, I'm Florid. 338 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 5: You think Kansas City's defense is going to contain Baltimore. 339 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: No, I think I think Kansas City has the ability 340 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 1: when they face Lamar. Lamar's never played well, he's always 341 00:19:55,240 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: a little tight. Short week. I think Kansas City stays 342 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: in game. Kansas City doesn't blow out anybody outside of 343 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: Super Bowls, they don't get blown out. I think it's close. 344 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: I'm taking the points. 345 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 5: I think so last week against Russ, they just basically 346 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 5: blitz the hell out of them. We're like, Russ, you 347 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 5: can't do anything. 348 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: Well, that's a different game, exactly right. 349 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 5: So now Spags has to change it up. And again 350 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 5: I'm not bashing the d. It feels like mcguffe's not 351 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 5: off to a great start. The linebackers are not super fast. 352 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 5: We saw Justin Herbert run whenever he wanted against them 353 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 5: for key first downs. 354 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 8: I don't know. 355 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 5: I'm on Ravens here. I think she's go to one 356 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 5: and three. And on Monday morning, we're talking about no 357 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 5: playoffs for your Kansas City Chiefs, and everybody's gonna be 358 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 5: talking about old j Max take from the summer. All right, 359 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 5: let's move on to what do we do? Oh, this 360 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 5: is a good game. Eagles three and oh against Tampa 361 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 5: also three and oh. Now, last season Tampa took down 362 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 5: Philly in Week four, really handled them. But it kind 363 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 5: of deserves an asterisk. No AJ Brown and I don't 364 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 5: think DeVonta Smith played either okay. Heading into this matchup, 365 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 5: Nick Sirianni is traveling to Tampa Friday. The team is 366 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 5: going early to get more acclimated to the weather in Tampa, 367 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 5: your favorite city in America. Speaking of Mark Sanchez on 368 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 5: the rear View pod, Baker Mayfield says, Hey, traveling early, 369 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 5: that ain't gonna help you. 370 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 3: We'll have a good game plan obviously to try and 371 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 3: tire these guys out. Advantage for us. We're in Tampa. 372 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 3: The heat they're not used to that. I know there's 373 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 3: already been the stories that broke about them coming down 374 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 3: to Tampa a day early. I don't necessarily think that. 375 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: Helps them one day. 376 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 3: It doesn't get you acclimated to this humidity. So I 377 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 3: think honestly it makes them think about it more when 378 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 3: they get down here earlier. 379 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 1: You know, it's funny you think the heat would be 380 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 1: an advantage. I always thought it was. I worked in 381 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: Tampa for two years. It was hottest place I've ever worked, 382 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: lightning every afternoon in the summer. But I do think 383 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: when you sometimes you take these cold weather teams where 384 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: it's already here in the northern areas, it's already cool down, 385 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: it's September steamier. If you don't know Tampa and Miami, 386 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: it's hard to explain. You know the Saints. It's steamy, 387 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: but it's indoors. I think it's an advantage against northern 388 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: teams early in September. I do. 389 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, So I'm looking at the weather. This is courtesy 390 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 5: of weather dot com. High of ninety one on Sunday 391 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 5: in Tampa. 392 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. 393 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 5: I think a bigger story is Mike Evans not playing, 394 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 5: Chris Godwin not playing. Essentially, it's the Abuca Show and 395 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 5: Quinjon Mitchell and Cooper Dejan can hand him off. I 396 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 5: think Philly really puts a beat down on the bike side. 397 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 5: I think, say Tampa Bay team that's shirped. And I 398 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 5: had a guy on my podcast who covers the Eagles 399 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 5: this week and he noted that Todd Bowles has had 400 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts's number. So we got Baker Mayfield talking trash 401 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 5: about the weather, we got Todd Bowles owning Jalen Hurts. 402 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 5: I think the Philadelphia Eagles, they're here at all the 403 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 5: noise Colin, they know Tampa's had our number. He goes by. 404 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 1: I like the Eagles too, I do, I think, And 405 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: I also think they've played so poorly in the first half. 406 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 1: That's when you win and play poorly for stretches. It's 407 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: a it's a great week of coaching. 408 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, how long can Tampa dance between the rain drops 409 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 5: and continue to win games? At the buzzer every week? Colin, 410 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 5: come on, they're like three fourth place from being zero 411 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 5: and three. 412 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 1: You know that, right, Yes, absolutely, it's j Mack with 413 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: the news. 414 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the 415 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 2: herd Line News. 416 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: It's you know, I don't want to pick on this team. 417 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: I really don't. I want to be positive because tonight 418 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: it's Arizona Seattle. Good game and Greg Cosel comes on 419 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: in thirty minutes and he you know, he often has 420 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: positive messaging for players. But I saw so. The Athletic 421 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: did this survey where they survey twenty nine people in 422 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: the NFL and executives, GMS and some coaches and first place, 423 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 1: second place, third place, fourth place, fifth place. You had 424 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: fifth five opportunities to vote the best front offices in 425 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: the NFL. Not coaches vote the best front offices. Here's 426 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: the most shocking thing in the entire list of teams 427 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: is somebody put the Pittsburgh Steelers as the second best 428 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: run front office in the NFL. Who and how that's unbelieving. 429 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: You better hope whoever voted him the Steelers number two 430 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: isn't your general manager, because it's twenty twenty five that 431 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: they have not won a playoff game in eight years. 432 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: They are completely toned af to offense. By the way, 433 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, who is the worst quarterback in the league 434 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: right now under pressure. The problem is he's often under pressure. 435 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,360 Speaker 1: They can't figure out their offensive line. It's been seven years, 436 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: so the Steelers offense since twenty twenty is twenty seventh 437 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 1: total offense, twenty three in scoring. It is an offensive league. 438 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: And uh, in fact, I saw this. I saw this 439 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: story this morning. The Browns and the Titans have more 440 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: offense touchdowns from twenty seventeen until today and more playoff 441 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: wins than the Steelers. I'm not joking when I say this. 442 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: The only thing that gives you hope is well, Tomlin 443 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: knows what he's doing, and the defense is very good. 444 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: It's not the defense is not playing well, so it 445 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: is a it's an incredibly expensive defense, and it's kind 446 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: of slid backwards. The last three years. So they've only 447 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: had one Pro bowler drafted in five seasons. That's nausey Harris. 448 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: He is gone. So I mean, I get writing in 449 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: your friend, Like your friend runs for mayor in your 450 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: small town, you get him write in vote. You know 451 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 1: nobody can. But if it ever got out that somebody 452 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: you voted the Steelers the second best front office in 453 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: the league is you have to pray as a fan 454 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: that your GM did not vote them, your executive did 455 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 1: not vote. And this is nothing against Tomlin, it's the 456 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: whole organization. Mike Tomlin doesn't control the draft. Mike Tomlin, 457 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: you could argue, doesn't control the offensive line, which they 458 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 1: can't solved. They cannot solve their offensive line. And I'm 459 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: gonna argue they have better than average personnel. So the defense, 460 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 1: I don't know what to say. It's a little old 461 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: in spots. There's a bunch of talented people. I think 462 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: Minnesota is going to be a handful for them. I 463 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: like Minnesota in that game comfortably. Mike Tomlin this week 464 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 1: addressed what so far has been a strangely under performing defense. 465 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 10: Getting off the feel a lot or frequently enough on defense, 466 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 10: and I think it's altering our time of possession and 467 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 10: oftentimes that dictates how the game is played in a 468 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 10: myriad of ways. Who is somewhat limited with some of 469 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 10: our schematics due to obvious circumstances. I expect us to 470 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 10: continually work and get better in some of those spaces. 471 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: It is interesting there's been this trend that I've talked 472 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 1: about and I've asked people in the league, but if 473 00:26:54,440 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: you look at defensive coaches, they struggle with offensive line play. 474 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: I mean, right now, Houston has the worst offensive line. 475 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: The Steelers once again have a bad offensive line. We 476 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: have defensive head coaches, So I don't really have an 477 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: explanation for it. McVeigh, Andy Reid, Sean Payton have shown 478 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: the ability time and time again. The Niners, by the way, 479 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: have shown the ability with average personnel or in rebuilds 480 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: to develop offensive lines very quickly. Great O line, Dan Campbell, 481 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: offensive coach Sirianni Philadelphia. And I'm not saying the GMS 482 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: don't count, but five of the six top offensive lines 483 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: right now according to PFF, and this is an annual reality, 484 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: five of the top six offensive lines have offensive coaches. 485 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: The exception is Buffalo, who's had Dion Dawkins anchoring at 486 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,479 Speaker 1: left tackle, an elite left tackle for years and years, 487 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: and he moves their number up. But Buffalo is the exception. 488 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: Other than that, top hole lines offensive coaches, many of 489 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: the worst O lines defensive coaches. I don't have an explanation, 490 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 1: but it feels like a trend for the last several years. 491 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: By the way, Jackson dart is starting this weekend, I'll 492 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: have some thoughts on that. And Aaron Rodgers doing it again, 493 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: we'll talk about that. Greg Cosel, Top of the Hour, 494 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: Can't Wait. 495 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 496 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 2: and noon Eastern non a em Pacific Sunday on Fox. 497 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 5: We've got two of the NFC's early season best as 498 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 5: Sakuan and the defending champion Eagles take on Baker Mayfield 499 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 5: and the Bucks, or the Jaguars battle Christian McCaffrey and 500 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 5: the Niners, or other regional action. Check local listings for 501 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 5: the game in your area only on Fox. 502 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: Welcome back. I have sympathy. I mean the great news 503 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: when you're young, if you stumble early in your career, 504 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: you know you have a lot of time to make 505 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: it up. You make a big career mistake at fifty seven. 506 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: You may not get back into the workforce. You're twenty six, 507 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: you're seventeen or eighteen, you're stumbled. You'll be fine, but 508 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: it can be disheartening and you can lose a lot 509 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: of confidence if your first job is a bad one. 510 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: I have sympathy for Jackson Dart. So the Giants are 511 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: at home and they're facing the Chargers, and Jim Harbaugh 512 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: since he's been the Chargers coach against rookie quarterbacks is 513 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: four and zero. They average fourteen points a game and 514 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: complete barely sixty percent of their throw So Jim Harball, 515 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: like the great coaches, has owned rookie quarterbacks. And I 516 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: was never a huge Jackson Dart believer. Felt more like 517 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: a mid second round guy to me. But this is 518 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: a rough one. The head coach on the hot seat 519 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: GM could follow left tackles great Andrew Thomas, he's always 520 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: hurt and Monique Malik Neighbors is gifted, but he gets 521 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: banged up. So it is remarkable. I lived on the 522 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: East Coast for ten years. It is remarkable how far 523 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: Big Blue has fallen since Eli Manning retired. And it 524 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: wasn't that long ago. They have had ten starting quarterbacks. 525 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: That is tied for the most in the league with Cleveland. Man, 526 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: that's unbelievable, and they convinced themselves a couple of these 527 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: guys were the guy. In fact, in the last eleven seasons, 528 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: they're two big years. Twice they've won six games. So 529 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: they are not Cleveland. Cleveland's actually right now. You know 530 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: they won a playoff game with Baker Mayfield not that 531 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: long ago. They're not Cleveland. I mean you start looking 532 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: at the lowly franchises, Houston three years ago. No, Houston 533 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,719 Speaker 1: found its way. So Jacksonville won a playoff game. So 534 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: like they're at the bottom of the league right now. 535 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: So and I think they're starting Jackson Dart. One of 536 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: the reasons they're starting in is because the owner, mister Mara, 537 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: does not want to have a home crowd again chanting Dart, 538 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: Dart Dart. I think it's embarrassing for him. He's mentioned 539 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: before or that he pays attention to sports radio and 540 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: he reads the papers. He's very aware of how New 541 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: York fans feel about the situation. So there there was 542 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: an I'm not joking, there there was a was it 543 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: last year? There was a plane. We looked for a 544 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: video we couldn't find it of a banner. Somebody paid 545 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: for an actual banner a Giants fan, and that flew 546 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: over and it said, mister Mara enough, please fix this 547 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: dumpster fire. So it is, I mean it is. It 548 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: is bad. Now reportedly Jackson Dart actually is running a 549 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: plane this weekend. There's gonna be a few more banners 550 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: out there, and uh, you know, one of them is 551 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: get me out of here because Jackson Dart. This is 552 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: a complete uphill struggle. I mean, honestly, how do you 553 00:31:54,080 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: succeed coach on the hot seat? Haven't won suboptimal general manager, 554 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: You're left tackling your star receiver, actually struggle to stay healthy. 555 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. Here here is Jackson Dart on the start. 556 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: I'm ready. So there wasn't anything extra. 557 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 3: It was really just, you know, now I felt, you know, 558 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 3: it's you always try to say like I'm gonna prepare 559 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 3: eachweak the same, but you know, in all reality. 560 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: You have a different you know, responsibilities as the starter. 561 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: So you know, I'm just locked in. Yeah, he I mean, 562 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: he's the junior coder who's been hired to overhaul the 563 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: software at a company and he's just trying to find 564 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: the break room. I this is a total uphill battle. 565 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: I honestly feel bad for Jackson Dart. The good news 566 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: is the NFL today, and this is actually great news 567 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: for quarterbacks. Baker, Gino Darnold, You're gonna get second, third, 568 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: and fourth chance. Look at Mac Jones. Mac Jones was 569 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: buried in this league, like people were done with Jacksonville 570 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: got him. He's from that area. They moved on. So 571 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: but I it if you don't have sympathy for some 572 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: of these young quarterbacks and some of these situations. Again, 573 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: if Andrew Thomas and Neighbors never got banged up, you'd 574 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: like be uh oh. Because I went into this year 575 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: and I was like, actually, if Jackson Dark can play, 576 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: I like their weapon, I like their left tackle. They're 577 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: both hurt again, so and I and and I mean again, 578 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: here's the Otter issue. Even if Jackson Dart's talented, will 579 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: we know with New York because I didn't see anything 580 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: with Daniel Jones, like nothing. Daniel Jones is a field 581 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: goal underdog in LA against the Rams this weekend. That's 582 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: that's a pretty good number. That tells you that the 583 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: wise guys are Daniel Jones can play, So if he's good, 584 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: can they figure it out? I don't have a I 585 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: don't have an answer, but I think this is a 586 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: I think the Mara family they just don't want to 587 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: hear booing and dart for three and a half hours, 588 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: and that's what you were gonna hear. Okay, week four 589 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: NFL schedule. He've said this, it is hard in the 590 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: NFL to hide your flaws in college you, like I've said, 591 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: USC could win this weekend and go five and zero. 592 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: I'm not going to know if USC is any good 593 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: until they face Oregon in Notason and Notre Dame in 594 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: South Bend. But if we could put up the Week 595 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 1: four NFL schedule. In the NFL, it is hard to 596 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 1: hide your flaws. So Seattle, I think tonight it's a 597 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: trap game. I'd stay away. Jmack like Seattle. They're clearly 598 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: the better team, but it's a short week division rival 599 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 1: on the road in Arizona outplayed the Niners. So we 600 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 1: disagree on that one, right. 601 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:37,760 Speaker 5: One hundred percent? 602 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, you and I both feel strongly that Minnesota is 603 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: to play in Dublin against Pittsburgh. 604 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was quoting you. The stats before the show. 605 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 5: Pro Football Focus grades out quarterbacks under pressure. Dead last 606 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 5: in the NFL is Aaron Rodgers. He is six for 607 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 5: twenty two passing under pressure with two picks and three 608 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 5: turnover worthy place he is a nightmare. Would you know 609 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 5: Brian Flores tendency Colin. He loves the blitz. They are 610 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,879 Speaker 5: top eight in blitz percentage and I think top five 611 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 5: in pressure rate. They're gonna get after Rogers, and I 612 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 5: don't see a world where he's bailed out by Metcalf 613 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 5: and Warren. 614 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: I like the Vikings a lot in Dublin. Yeah, it's 615 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 1: one of my stronger plays. We both like Philadelphia at Tampa. 616 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 1: Tampa has escaped average teams Jets and Falcons has really 617 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: not played a full game yet, and they don't have 618 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 1: Mike Evans, so they're gonna rely on their rookie receiver 619 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: against a Philadelphia team that puts pressure on a quarterback. 620 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: We both like Philly. 621 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 5: Yes, Detroit game. Have you seen that number is run 622 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 5: up to ten? It was like eight eight and a half. 623 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 5: Now ten. 624 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: I would stay away from that game, although I do 625 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: think Cleveland's defense. I told you I watched the Packers 626 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: Cleveland game again. That defense for Cleveland's legit. They get 627 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,919 Speaker 1: a very pass right, it's totally legit. So they're gonna 628 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: They're gonna lose a lot of games, but they're gonna 629 00:35:53,560 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: lose close. The Lions. Listen, Detroit's got in the lea 630 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 1: roster and at home they're really tough. 631 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 5: Remember Cleveland on the road like was fighting with Baltimore 632 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 5: and that next thing, you know, it's forty one ten. 633 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 5: So I suspect something similar happens here. They show well 634 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 5: for a bit and then the Lions open up a 635 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,439 Speaker 5: can in the in the third quarter. 636 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: All Right, Carolina at New England, I don't know about 637 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 1: the bat. I probably lean Carolina in the points, but 638 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,479 Speaker 1: I think I think New England's the double here. 639 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 5: So you you've made this point about the Patriots. They 640 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 5: have like a new team. It takes a little while 641 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:32,359 Speaker 5: to jee. 642 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: That's why their penalties and turnovers have been a mess. 643 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 5: Well, what is this the week it clicks against a 644 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 5: team that, Lets be real, Carolina is not good. I 645 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 5: know they won, they won last week, but this isn't 646 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 5: a week to week league. I mean we got to 647 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 5: look big picture, Like I think Christian Gonzales, the Great 648 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 5: cornerback returns this week. Some injuries for the Panthers. Tech 649 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 5: McMillan T mac is banged up. 650 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 1: We'll see tell from Mike Vrabel's body language on the sidelines. 651 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 1: He knows he's got a young new team. He's not mad, 652 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,320 Speaker 1: he's not frustrated. He knows it's a process. New England's 653 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 1: going to be pretty interesting. I still think they're going 654 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 1: to be a wild card team, but they are one 655 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: of They have more new guys playing than any team 656 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 1: in the league. 657 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 5: I'm on the Patriots and we're opposite on that. 658 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 1: Okay, Washington and Atlanta. I don't bet Falcon. 659 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 5: Games time out. The staff said that I need to 660 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 5: come up with an upset. Atlanta is an underdog at home. 661 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 5: Is this an upset? Does that count? Can I go 662 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 5: with the Falcons? 663 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 1: You know what, I strongly encourage you to bet everything 664 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: you own on the Falcons. Please seriously not interested. So 665 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 1: New Orleans at Buffalo, we know who the better team is. 666 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: You would suspect that the Saints would play as well 667 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: as they can play in Buffalo. You know, is a 668 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 1: team that comes off a dramatic game. I tend to 669 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 1: think that's a stayaway game. 670 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 5: So let me get this straight. New Orleans plays tough 671 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 5: at home, go to Seattle, get their butts kicked, fly back, 672 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 5: and now have to fly up to play arguably the 673 00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,760 Speaker 5: best team in the league. 674 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 1: And yeah, blaffho is gonna win. I'm just not laying. 675 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: I'm not laying. You're not laying seventeen quins. I think 676 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: the Chargers at New York. I would take the Chargers 677 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,800 Speaker 1: to win and cover because again, the Giants' key players 678 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: are banged up. I think it's actually the only thing 679 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 1: that worries me. I think it's a pretty low scoring game. 680 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of good defensive personnel in 681 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: this game. The Chargers win, but I don't think it's pretty. 682 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 1: I think the Giants will make it look ugly. 683 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,359 Speaker 5: I know some Chargers season ticket holders in Colin they 684 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,800 Speaker 5: were pointing out that Bo Knicks actually had some guys 685 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 5: open against the Chargers there, he just missed the passes. 686 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 5: There was Courtland Sutton late, like that was a go 687 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 5: either way game. I like the Chargers here, but I 688 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 5: am a little nervous. You know, new quarterback, what are 689 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 5: we expecting from Jackson Dart? Like he's a scramble run 690 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 5: around guy. I like the Chargers, but I'm a little nervous. 691 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,320 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not going to talk about Tennessee and Houston. 692 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 1: It's boring the Colts at the Rams. I would probably 693 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 1: take the Colts a sandwich game Niners next week, off 694 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: of filled Alia game last week. Those are two big rivals. 695 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 1: They have struggled against the Eagles. I tend to think, 696 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,399 Speaker 1: not that they overlook them, but the energy will be low. 697 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 1: I think the Colts have a real roster. I think 698 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 1: they're for real. I do. I said this last year. 699 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 1: If they can get competent quarterback play, the Colts have 700 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 1: a really good roster, an excellent O line to keep 701 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: the Rams D line at Bay. I think it's a 702 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,400 Speaker 1: close game. I'll take the Rams to win, but if 703 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:24,839 Speaker 1: I get the hook at three and a half, I'd 704 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: take the Colts. 705 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 5: So you know the game Roulette in Vegas where you 706 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 5: black red and then there's this okay, so you know 707 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 5: people will see, oh, twelve blacks have come up in 708 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 5: a row. I'm just gonna keep betting red. It's got 709 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 5: to eventually go red. I feel like that's me with 710 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 5: the Colts. I want to go against them every week 711 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 5: and Daniel Jones just keeps delivering. But Colin, this week, 712 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 5: I got a good stat for you. Miss tackles is 713 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 5: tracked as a stat. The Rams lead the NFL with 714 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 5: the lowest number three miss tackles in three games. Okay. 715 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 5: If Jonathan Taylor's not getting loose, okay, and Tyler Warren's 716 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,479 Speaker 5: not breaking tackles and Jared Versus in company are getting 717 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 5: after Daniel Jones, I think the Rams. And again I'm 718 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,800 Speaker 5: this is a team that led Philly twenty six to seven, 719 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 5: okay before crumbling. I like the Rams here comfortably. Bears 720 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 5: at the Raiders Raiders are passed. 721 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 1: Okay, No, I don't like the Bears coming off this. 722 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams Player of the week. It's like, folks, Caleb 723 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,359 Speaker 1: is an inconsistent, erratic player at this point. Don't buy 724 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 1: the hype. The Raiders are coming home. Raiders O line 725 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:36,800 Speaker 1: has struggled, Yes, really struggled. Green Bay at Dallas blowout. 726 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 1: Both of us believe Green Bay wins comfortably pulls away 727 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 1: Monday Night. I'll take the Dolphins at home and the 728 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 1: Broncos at home. 729 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 5: Wait, did you see Justin Fields? If he's clear from 730 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,399 Speaker 5: concussion protocol, he will start, but he has not been 731 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 5: cleared yet. Does that matter to you? Or is Tyrod 732 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 5: Taylor there? They're you know, flex, It doesn't really matter.