Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Talking Baseball. The Los Angeles Dodgers
Speaker 1: are the twenty twenty four World Series champions. Yeah, Yankee,
Speaker 1: what a season?
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Speaker 2: Go to like a museum.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe maybe sports aren't for you anymore.
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Speaker 1: I'm Jake story Lie, that's Trevor Plof No, it was
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say it was a fun one
Speaker 1: last night. That would have been a weird way to
Speaker 1: say it, but it was. Trevor, how are you.
Speaker 2: That's the thing about like being a baseball fan is
Speaker 2: you go to a game like that you understand what
Speaker 2: you saw there, like whether it was good for you
Speaker 2: or bad for you, Like you understand you saw like
Speaker 2: kind of an all timer. I don't want to say
Speaker 2: all timer. I'm not going to give it that, but
Speaker 2: a very unique entertaining event happened before your eyes last night.
Speaker 1: Oh that was an old timer that There was a.
Speaker 2: Half ending that was an all timer, no doubt about that.
Speaker 1: A team came back from down five runs to win
Speaker 1: a World Series game. That's you don't see that every day.
Speaker 2: Well, they didn't even score any what was that?
Speaker 1: Wait? What was that? No? No, no, no, no, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to double check the box score. Was up
Speaker 1: five runs and then lost the World Series game by
Speaker 1: giving up five unearned runs and a half inning.
Speaker 2: We'll get there.
Speaker 1: I can't do that in the World Series.
Speaker 2: No, you can't. We've kind of been saying that all
Speaker 2: postseason long, but I'm curious to hear it.
Speaker 1: Pop.
Speaker 2: You got one, Drevor.
Speaker 1: I've got to burn. And you know, there's there's some
Speaker 1: tough Dodger fans out there, and good that means you're
Speaker 1: passionate and whatever. That's kind of the whole deal. Man.
Speaker 1: The better team won. The better team won. Dodgers aren't
Speaker 1: gonna like this part. Maybe they'll like this part even more.
Speaker 1: The World SAP. The World Series happened La versus San
Speaker 1: Diego in LA one. Those are the two best teams. Uh,
Speaker 1: congrats Lam you know me, Jack Flaherty and Walker Buehler.
Speaker 1: They're on my couch right now, just you know, having
Speaker 1: a good don't no, no, they're on somebody's couch. Let's uh,
Speaker 1: let's talk about it. Let's talk about this baseball game
Speaker 1: recording in progress, final game of the year and the
Speaker 1: boogie down Bronx Yankees as Garrett J. Cole would try
Speaker 1: to wear out one more win for the Yankees, as
Speaker 1: the Dodgers would hope to be setting off flares behind
Speaker 1: j Flair and the Dodgers bullpen bottom. One Big Justice
Speaker 1: brings the boom Aaron Judge with a two run homer,
Speaker 1: and then I jazzed in my band to back in
Speaker 1: the Bronx. The Pronx is burning for Dugo RBI single
Speaker 1: Hugh Me and my cousin from Florence giancarlo Is seventh
Speaker 1: postseason homer. It's five oh Yankees. But in the fifth inning,
Speaker 1: the Yankees should have called the cops on themselves. Judge
Speaker 1: beats the fly ball, both be and Jazz combined to
Speaker 1: make some terrible music, and even the old dogs get involved.
Speaker 1: I gotta you take it to the tune of five
Speaker 1: unearned runs in one World Series inning. Freddy gets fingered,
Speaker 1: so ta Oscar gets grouchy. It's five to five Stanton
Speaker 1: in Lux both sacrifice themselves for the team. The sackfly
Speaker 1: is underrated, and it's not underrated in La anymore. As
Speaker 1: Mookie Bets puts the icing on the cake, the Dodgers
Speaker 1: win World Series Game five Clarity, the bandit a brazier
Speaker 1: to opec to Bessie at a Gradderol to try, and
Speaker 1: in the Bueller, it's going going back back to Cali, Cali, Dodger,
Speaker 1: your twenty four World Series champs.
Speaker 2: Boy, oh boy, where do we begin?
Speaker 1: Uh? Well, you know, Trev, I feel like we haven't
Speaker 1: even said congrats to your Dodgers yet.
Speaker 2: Are your mentions not great? Right now?
Speaker 1: Oh? How are they awful? Dodger fans are tough, and
Speaker 1: they they're taking the Chris Rose fan in the stands
Speaker 1: stripsack like a guy actually tried to kill someone. So, yes,
Speaker 1: you can't do that. Yes, we laughed at it in lifetime,
Speaker 1: and yes, you have a better baseball team. Take it
Speaker 1: like I don't. I don't care. I've never been proud.
Speaker 1: And Yankee fans are worse because they just watched their
Speaker 1: team ship on themselves in the world.
Speaker 2: So you got a little bit of both right now?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, all right, all right? Where do you want
Speaker 1: to start, Trevor Plue.
Speaker 2: Man, I don't if you want to see someone kind
Speaker 2: of tear Yankees the Yankees up. Chris Rose kind of
Speaker 2: went off last night. Yeah it was I never seen
Speaker 2: him like that, and so I'm very curious to see
Speaker 2: how everyone reacts to that. Where do I want to start?
Speaker 2: I think we have to start with the starters. And
Speaker 2: how about this, since most of this is going to
Speaker 2: be about Los Angeles being the better team, let's talk
Speaker 2: about Garrett Cole first. I think Garrett Cole was an
Speaker 2: absolute animal last night, and he did everything in his power.
Speaker 2: I know the line looks crazy, but he he pitched
Speaker 2: his ass off, no hits through four, just looking absolutely electric.
Speaker 2: And then we get to the fifth and I don't
Speaker 2: know if we're ready to get into that just yet.
Speaker 2: The fifth kind of blows up right in front of
Speaker 2: his face one of the things. Yes, he was a
Speaker 2: part of it, no doubt about it. We could talk
Speaker 2: about Anthony Rizzo in that situation, we can talk about
Speaker 2: Freddie and Tao, you know, sniping him. He had a
Speaker 2: chance to get out of that after you know, three
Speaker 2: blunders with just one run and then he got hit,
Speaker 2: So you have to mention that. But coming back out,
Speaker 2: I believe for two more innings were the start of
Speaker 2: the second one and looking great afterwards and still maintaining
Speaker 2: his stuff. I thought was was pretty impressive, dude. And
Speaker 2: John Smoltz was talking about the ton on the broadcast
Speaker 2: and just saying, there's just not many guys that in
Speaker 2: the big leies that could weather that fifth ending and
Speaker 2: then come back out kind of looking unfazed and man
Speaker 2: like World Series elimination game emotions running that high, even
Speaker 2: the miscues, like he didn't skip a beat, dude, Like,
Speaker 2: I don't. I know. It's hard for pictures when things
Speaker 2: behind them go awry, and a lot of times you'll
Speaker 2: see pictures like even if it's quickly like grimacing or
Speaker 2: like just kind of like giving some like I can't
Speaker 2: believe that just happened to me type thing, and Garrett
Speaker 2: Cole was he just it was about business man and
Speaker 2: he went back. So I want to give him credit
Speaker 2: because you know, Yankee fans, I think we're calling for
Speaker 2: him to have this this you know, a start for
Speaker 2: the ages if he will. And I don't think it
Speaker 2: was that. I mean, how can it be that when
Speaker 2: you lost the game. But I also think that you
Speaker 2: can really analyze it and say it was almost that,
Speaker 2: like besides giving up those runs, and I think, like
Speaker 2: I mentioned that Freddy and the Tao hit afterwards, like
Speaker 2: that was a hell of a start by him.
Speaker 1: Man his defense, it is his deep part of me.
Speaker 1: Gave up two innings that he he had a chance
Speaker 1: to go nine. He definitely had a Laneri and Aaron
Speaker 1: Judge doesn't squeeze a fly ball, uh, Anthony Volpi up
Speaker 1: five to nothing, you need to get an out. That's
Speaker 1: what that comes down to. So whether that's whether that's
Speaker 1: second base, first base, or third base, I you know
Speaker 1: some that that was the one that was hurting the
Speaker 1: people that was with the most was the Volpey ball.
Speaker 1: And for me, there's a play to be had there.
Speaker 1: But you have a new third baseman and Jazz Chisholm
Speaker 1: that the Yankees ignored the fact that he's a new
Speaker 1: third baseman U And for Volpi, you have to know
Speaker 1: you have to get one out there, that the risk
Speaker 1: of that play isn't worth it. And Trev, it's where
Speaker 1: I feel bad for Garrett Cole, well all of it.
Speaker 1: I feel bad for Garrett Cole. He gave uh what
Speaker 1: should be remembered as a heroic effort that you're right,
Speaker 1: kind of won't be. Yankees fans will be like, he
Speaker 1: looked good that night. Huh that ball to first base
Speaker 1: he got Mookie Betts heard of him, you know, just
Speaker 1: a reminder. Mookie Bets was gonna win the league MVP
Speaker 1: this year. Just a reminder. He was playing shortstop, he
Speaker 1: was racking up war he was the best player in
Speaker 1: the National League. He got hurt, he didn't win it.
Speaker 1: So after striking out show, Hey, he's got Mookie Bets.
Speaker 1: His team is letting him down. He gets a squibber
Speaker 1: to first base. That, Trev, there's some people that won't
Speaker 1: be able to ever talk about it properly because any
Speaker 1: ball hit to a pitcher's left side, you have to
Speaker 1: go towards first. Them's the rules. That's PfP.
Speaker 2: He did he did look at.
Speaker 1: Him, Trev When that was hit in live time, the
Speaker 1: whole stadium and everyone in the stadium assumed Anthony Rizzo
Speaker 1: would attack that ball, scoop it like he has for
Speaker 1: thirteen big league years or whatever it is, and step
Speaker 1: on first base, and that Garrett Cole had escaped a
Speaker 1: jam and a team that had let them selves down.
Speaker 1: To see that, you're right, like, that's why you're giving
Speaker 1: credit to Cole for stabilizing and not losing focus. There's
Speaker 1: people that'll be like, well, that's on Garrett Cole, that's
Speaker 1: on riz Man. Sure, I understand the thought process, and
Speaker 1: I understand people use different parts of their brain. Garrett
Speaker 1: Cole has to go to first base until it's not sure.
Speaker 1: He should have not been there. Anthony Rizzo should have
Speaker 1: been happy to attack and scoop that ball and step
Speaker 1: on first base and give his own fist pump and dude,
Speaker 1: he's been bad defensively this year. I know he's Anthony Rizzo.
Speaker 1: I know that man. They subbed him out in playoff
Speaker 1: games for his Waldo Cabrera at first base. That's his
Speaker 1: Waldo's sixth best position. They put themselves, They put themselves
Speaker 1: in this position to do this, Yankee fans weren't surprised
Speaker 1: by a five unearned run inning.
Speaker 2: I I want to talk about all the plays that
Speaker 2: the judge one. I don't think there's much to talk about.
Speaker 2: He literally took his eyes off the ball. He was
Speaker 2: trying to throw Keky out at first. I believe it
Speaker 2: just it was. It was that they showed the slow
Speaker 2: mo replay and it was catch the ball low, which
Speaker 2: I don't like. You know, he kind of coasted to it.
Speaker 2: You got to get it above your eyes. That's kind
Speaker 2: of like rule number one. Whatever. It's a sinking line drive.
Speaker 2: I get it. He was right there, but his eyes
Speaker 2: didn't stay on the ball man. And sometimes when you're
Speaker 2: running in like that, your head starts bobbing a little bit.
Speaker 2: If you charge to chop your steps down, which he
Speaker 2: was doing right there, and all of a sudden, you know,
Speaker 2: it just goes off for love. But if you look,
Speaker 2: I mean they showed a really nice replay on the
Speaker 2: on the broadcast. He just was looking towards first base.
Speaker 2: So there's there's number one. That's just a that's a
Speaker 2: shrip air. It's a straight up air. It's not like
Speaker 2: a mental air. It's just he just he zued it.
Speaker 2: Nothing you can say about that. The vulpi one, you
Speaker 2: go quickly through that if you want to get that.
Speaker 2: Beabs talked about this a little bit on baseball today.
Speaker 2: I think it was the right play because at that point,
Speaker 2: you know, that's kind of a slow ground ball to
Speaker 2: the backhand side. Jazz was at the base, he had
Speaker 2: everything here. He just didn't get his hips turned enough.
Speaker 2: And if you'd stop it on the throw Beabs for me,
Speaker 2: you'll see what I mean. He doesn't right there, like
Speaker 2: you gotta get that. You gotta get a little bit
Speaker 2: more like in line with the third basement that he
Speaker 2: kind of like chokes this ball off right here instead
Speaker 2: of just throwing it. I mean, that's an awkward throw,
Speaker 2: Like how many times do you practice that ball? You
Speaker 2: just don't so hey, this is just a shred up
Speaker 2: feeld play, almost like a second baseman beating the shortstop
Speaker 2: on a double play, which you know Lope has his
Speaker 2: zero experience doing that. He just doesn't get turned enough.
Speaker 2: He's his footwork isn't good there, but kind of like
Speaker 2: why would it be. It's it's well, I guess you
Speaker 2: could say's a big leage short stuff. But it's just
Speaker 2: kind of an awkward play. All of these, the next
Speaker 2: two plays, this one and the Garrett Cole play, you
Speaker 2: just don't practice those, Okay, So that one was tough. Again.
Speaker 2: I think Jazz was there. It was a bad throw
Speaker 2: by Volpi. I think it was the right play. The
Speaker 2: right decision was right in front of him. It's just
Speaker 2: a bad throw. He choked it off. Man, he got nervous.
Speaker 2: That ball felt like a golf ball in his hand
Speaker 2: right there. So he hit the Rizzo one.
Speaker 1: Now, the only thing I'd say about the volt Pey ball,
Speaker 1: Will Smith is running on that, and you have to
Speaker 1: take in the other factors.
Speaker 2: That's a really tough ball to go to first base
Speaker 2: on right there.
Speaker 1: The it's a catcher running I know what you're saying,
Speaker 1: because second base is a really tough play. Third base
Speaker 1: clearly not an easy play. You have to get it out.
Speaker 1: It's a work truv. Like that's for some of these plays.
Speaker 1: We start talking like their baseball, this was the World Series,
Speaker 1: this was with your season on the line.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But Jake, that's that's the play. He made the
Speaker 2: right decision, he just didn't execute, Like that's the play.
Speaker 1: That's a problem too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. I mean he just did not x acuted.
Speaker 1: And you had a third basement over there.
Speaker 2: And Jazz was in perfect position.
Speaker 1: He's not a third basement. Like you're missing the details.
Speaker 2: But it doesn't, it doesn't. What does it matter. What
Speaker 2: is him not being a third baseman have to do
Speaker 2: with that. It's a horrible throw the third Even if
Speaker 2: fucking Ronado and his heyday was over there, what's he
Speaker 2: gonna do, right.
Speaker 1: He's gonna he might have a chance to scoop that
Speaker 1: because he's a third baseman.
Speaker 2: I am I'm not. I'm not on Jazz for that.
Speaker 1: You make that all because you played third base.
Speaker 2: No, it's just a horrible throw by Volpi right read
Speaker 2: bad throw, judge or excuse me. The next one was
Speaker 2: I don't know this. You tell me this because Dan Rourke,
Speaker 2: super producer Dan Rourke, he said that he's never like
Speaker 2: he said, Rizzo never takes that ball himself. He never does.
Speaker 2: So this is a thing where it's like, Okay, we
Speaker 2: talked about base running. You don't practice during the year,
Speaker 2: they don't. You don't practice pfps during that, you practice
Speaker 2: them in spring training. And that's it. So like these
Speaker 2: two kind of have to you have to know what
Speaker 2: it is. So you know, Garrett Cole did start going
Speaker 2: and then he stopped. Anthony Rizzo could have definitely come
Speaker 2: in a bit more aggressive and stepped on the base,
Speaker 2: but he hasn't been doing that all year, So that's
Speaker 2: like a thing that you just have to know. It
Speaker 2: was like the baseball gods came down and I don't know, man,
Speaker 2: like that was just a weird thing. I think he
Speaker 2: was trying to hang back because there was a ton
Speaker 2: of spin on that ball, like you know, off the
Speaker 2: end of the bat, and there's one if you can
Speaker 2: stop it. He was like, right right now, stop, I mean, like,
Speaker 2: what the fuck did? He has the ball and plenty
Speaker 2: of time and he's never gonna beat MOOKI right there because.
Speaker 1: He's the exit VLO on that ball.
Speaker 2: Do we have a number seventies? I'll get it, probably
Speaker 2: seventy something, I would imagine.
Speaker 1: And by the end Rizzo's going back on it. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'll tell you. I'll tell you who would
Speaker 1: have fielded that ball and stepped on first. Freddy Freeman,
Speaker 1: Like this is the World Series, we're talking about. Taking
Speaker 1: your eyes off a fly.
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, forty nine point.
Speaker 1: Eight going back, Trev.
Speaker 2: He was he was trying. It was a spinball. I
Speaker 2: don't mind him going back. He's I think he still
Speaker 2: had time to go. If he had made up his
Speaker 2: mind and said I'm gonna feel this and go touch
Speaker 2: the bag, he would have beat Mooki. But he in
Speaker 2: his mind, he was head down making sure he caught
Speaker 2: the ball, and then he went to flip right away
Speaker 2: and nobody was home, and then he was. Then he
Speaker 2: was fucked. It was crazy, dude. I mean you saw it.
Speaker 2: I saw everyone watching saw in lifetime. That was We're like, whoa.
Speaker 2: But again, you can talk all you want about all
Speaker 2: those miscues. It was still two outs, one run was
Speaker 2: in right there, and then you yeah, then you got
Speaker 2: a deal with Freddy and Tao. This is the length
Speaker 2: of a lineup. This is guys getting getting it done.
Speaker 2: Freddy two strike, knock up the middle, Tayo double over
Speaker 2: Judge's head. Like, you still have to give credits to
Speaker 2: the Dodgers for taking advantage of it. You can say, oh,
Speaker 2: the Yankees fuck this up, but yeah they did. They
Speaker 2: gave him.
Speaker 1: That's where I wanted to go. I want to talk
Speaker 1: about the Dodgers. I want to talk about you know,
Speaker 1: you gave the Dodgers and Freddie Freeman and ta Oscar
Speaker 1: Hernandez a six out inning, So I take Cole's name
Speaker 1: out your mouth. I don't care. Jesus Christ himself could
Speaker 1: have been on the mound and the Dodgers were going
Speaker 1: to push a couple across that inning. So no, I the.
Speaker 2: The Dodgers one pitch away.
Speaker 1: Dude, he got the pitch and let me see where.
Speaker 2: The pitch was. I'm looking right now. It means as
Speaker 2: a middle and.
Speaker 1: Not make the play three times tod had six outfielders,
Speaker 1: and that the Dodgers were gonna score runs at it
Speaker 1: like they're the Dodgers. They are the Dodgers. You can't
Speaker 1: give them six outs in an inning. You did, you didn't,
Speaker 1: and that's why they're world serious champions, yes or not?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, honestly, I think everyone now is on
Speaker 2: this train and it's hindsight, hindsight for a lot of people.
Speaker 2: But the Dodgers were by far the better team. Like
Speaker 2: I don't even think it was I honestly don't think
Speaker 2: it was close there really being honest, Like there's a
Speaker 2: couple guys that could get the job done. For the Yankees.
Speaker 2: They would have had to have absolutely monster series to
Speaker 2: beat this team. It's baseball. Anything can happen. But the
Speaker 2: better team won this, and I don't think there's any debating.
Speaker 1: I would go. So I would go Chris Rose Wordsmith
Speaker 1: on you, and I would say the talent on the
Speaker 1: field was similar. There was a clearly better team. There
Speaker 1: is a clearly better team, Trev, because this LA team
Speaker 1: has been through the fires, They've had the losses, they've
Speaker 1: had the winning they went out, they had a massive
Speaker 1: off season, which I'm glad we covered him all the
Speaker 1: way through because everyone should have that unique show Hey,
Speaker 1: contract from your guy Nez, the second bat came out,
Speaker 1: to bring in Taoska, to bring in your Yamamoto and
Speaker 1: at the deadline, everything they did, Trev. The Dodgers keep
Speaker 1: each other accountable. They there, That's what that franchise is
Speaker 1: built on. Uh. The Yankees do not. They Anthony Volpi
Speaker 1: probably should have been benched twice in his young Yankee
Speaker 1: tenure because he's a kid and baseball is really hard.
Speaker 1: He's very talented and very good. They should have They
Speaker 1: treated Jazz Chisholm, like he was a Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: third baseman. They called Clay Holmes the best closer in
Speaker 1: baseball for a month when he was blowing saves, just
Speaker 1: to try to convince themselves. Note the Dodgers would have said, oh,
Speaker 1: we don't. We gotta get Clay right right now, Like
Speaker 1: we love Clay, We're gonna get him in some good
Speaker 1: spots like that was the difference. The organizational top down
Speaker 1: to the team and how they manage each other and
Speaker 1: how they treat each other. That was the difference. Because
Speaker 1: the Yankees lost Game one on a relay throw. They
Speaker 1: lost Game five of the World Series on one of
Speaker 1: the worst defensive innings I've ever seen World Series games. Trev,
Speaker 1: this isn't this isn't a Monday recap with us, And
Speaker 1: we're like, you know, the Yanks could have had a
Speaker 1: couple of these World Series games.
Speaker 2: Well, what's it's not just gonna magically change, That's what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Like they were not a fundamentally sound team, correct,
Speaker 2: you know? Throughout the year base running I mean I didn't.
Speaker 2: The base running was talked about much during the year,
Speaker 2: and it was magnified in the playoffs and like it was.
Speaker 2: It can all facets of the game. They got outplayed
Speaker 2: like they really did. Uh Luke Weaver has a three
Speaker 2: disengagement box Like that just can't happen, dudeence catcher's interference,
Speaker 2: Wells I.
Speaker 1: Need Can we talk about the fucking Dodgers, dude, because hey,
Speaker 1: I want to.
Speaker 2: I just want to say are.
Speaker 1: A better team and they deserve all the credit. How
Speaker 1: come we're talking about all the Yankees blunders?
Speaker 2: Well we'll get there because a lot of us had
Speaker 2: to do with a lot of this had to do
Speaker 2: with the Yankees blunders. I think that Wells needs to,
Speaker 2: like like, I think he's gonna go into this offseason
Speaker 2: and kind of like search for something there man, Like
Speaker 2: he is he like the air apparent, like gonna be
Speaker 2: the starting catcher next year, like because like he got something.
Speaker 2: H He's got some things he's got to work on,
Speaker 2: because there was I mean even in the last inning,
Speaker 2: there's a couple of balls where he's just scooping. Am Like,
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, bro, you can't be doing that with
Speaker 2: the runner on third base. They need to fix that.
Speaker 2: And he got the job done. He scooped them. But
Speaker 2: I'm like that is not how you do that. You
Speaker 2: can't do that with like in this game one run
Speaker 2: game runners on third base. It's crazy. So anyways, yes,
Speaker 2: talk about the Dodgers. Look, this was they got put
Speaker 2: in a crazy situation because you know, he had the
Speaker 2: bullpen game, A bunch of guys like their length guys
Speaker 2: had thrown that. In game four, Jack comes out, just
Speaker 2: doesn't happen. Man keeps falling behind. Everybody serves up a
Speaker 2: couple of balls, like tries to tries to sneak one
Speaker 2: past judge. First pitch doesn't happen. I mean, just not
Speaker 2: the right location, not the right pitch. You know, he
Speaker 2: gets tagged for a few so he doesn't even make
Speaker 2: it out of the second. Now, all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: that rested bullpen. You have those guys aren't lanth guys.
Speaker 2: Those are your one inning guys. And you have to
Speaker 2: cover seven and two thirds innings now with those guys.
Speaker 2: And you know, this was I think, you know, very
Speaker 2: difficult for the coaching staff to be able to piece
Speaker 2: this together. I mean Trianon was in there, and when
Speaker 2: did he come in. He came in in the bottom
Speaker 2: of the sixth, and there was no other reliever that
Speaker 2: was like, really should be up like all the other
Speaker 2: guys that don like forty pitches. The night before, Hudson
Speaker 2: had thrown in a couple games back to back, so
Speaker 2: I was wondering, where the hell are they going to go?
Speaker 2: Obviously we know they got to Walker. That's a whole
Speaker 2: different that's at the end of the show. I want
Speaker 2: to talk about him, but I think we've been kind
Speaker 2: kind of saying it man, and it's it's bucked traditional
Speaker 2: La Dodger talk. Dave Roberts did a really good job
Speaker 2: with the bullpen.
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean amazing. We were we were crunching the
Speaker 1: numbers and it's like, who's gonna come come out for
Speaker 1: the ninth? And then you hear Walker Buehler is getting loose,
Speaker 1: and you go, ah, that's right. They're the Dodgers there.
Speaker 1: They are willing to do that. They're gonna press those
Speaker 1: buttons they had, Hey, something that will go overlooked. Michael
Speaker 1: Kopek pitched the fourth top of the lineup. Two runners
Speaker 1: got on. It was five to nothing. People in the
Speaker 1: sands are looking at Judge at the plate saying like, hey,
Speaker 1: if this is seven nothing, you know you could start
Speaker 1: booking flights that leads to the fifth inning of depth,
Speaker 1: which on the other side, the Yankees brought in Tommy
Speaker 1: Kinley for the eighth inning, try to get some outs
Speaker 1: with him, and he doesn't get one. He lets three
Speaker 1: runners on that Luke Weaver, who had been the Yankees
Speaker 1: ace in the hole, he gives up, you know, to
Speaker 1: a sackfly, a sackfly, a catcher's interference, and strikes out
Speaker 1: Freddy that Hey, if the Yankees had been more aggressive
Speaker 1: with their eighth inning, would they have pushed to run
Speaker 1: across and then change their ninth inning?
Speaker 2: Who knows you want in there?
Speaker 1: I'll be honest. I was in the stands and I
Speaker 1: was fifty to fifty on it because Cainley had been
Speaker 1: good for the Yankees and he is the only pitcher
Speaker 1: that didn't pitch the day before.
Speaker 2: Kind of that's the recipe. Canley in the eighth, Weaver
Speaker 2: in the ninth a little bit, but especially at the
Speaker 2: bottom of the order, right.
Speaker 1: I think the whole point is you should not have
Speaker 1: recipes like the Dodgers made their own recipe, like you know,
Speaker 1: we in hindsight, you can critique that one. In live time.
Speaker 1: I was whatever after seeing how the Dodgers got things
Speaker 1: done with figuring it out, Like, hey, Walker Bueller, we
Speaker 1: might need an inning from you today. Dog, you know
Speaker 1: in hindsight seeing that, Yeah, I would have rather gone
Speaker 1: down with Luke Leaver than Tommy Kinley?
Speaker 2: Was Walker Bueller? And were we dming earlier in the day.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I didn't. I guess you didn't go there,
Speaker 2: and we can go there now.
Speaker 1: Because I'm my couch talking about it.
Speaker 2: Cainlee, Yeah, that's weird. Calee gives up bases loaded, Weaver
Speaker 2: gives up the sacriflies, and all of a sudden the
Speaker 2: Dodger are up seven to six, and that was in
Speaker 2: the top of the eighth. So trying in freaking absolute
Speaker 2: stud goes back out there, has to face Sodo, Judge
Speaker 2: Jazz Stanton and gets through it. Man, Yeah, Sodo with
Speaker 2: the three to one. Judge hits the double down the line, Okay,
Speaker 2: a little scary. He walks Jazz. So you have first
Speaker 2: and second. John Carlo t like kind of like a
Speaker 2: weird cut, although most of his swings kind of look
Speaker 2: weird unless he connects, then it's beautiful. It's like one
Speaker 2: of the it's a strange swing there just misses one,
Speaker 2: like you know, it's kind of a nasty fastball, just
Speaker 2: misses it, flies out to the right field and then
Speaker 2: he gets to riz. Okay, he's going nuts now you
Speaker 2: know he can't go back out. But that's when they
Speaker 2: started the show. Walker Bueller in the bullpen and he's
Speaker 2: warming up and it's his it's his, you know, bullpen
Speaker 2: day in between starts. He had just pitched two days ago.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, they have him and Hudson warming up,
Speaker 2: and I was like, please bring in Walker Bueller. And
Speaker 2: I said to some baseball today, like fan fiction for
Speaker 2: Dodger fans, show Heo Tani comes in.
Speaker 1: It closes the night out. Right.
Speaker 2: That's like Boner Jams twenty twenty four, right there, everyone
Speaker 2: wanted that wasn't gonna happen. Next up in the fluffer
Speaker 2: line would be Walker Buehler coming in to close it out.
Speaker 2: He's a free agent. This guy's two Tommy John's like
Speaker 2: working his way back for two years. Gives you that
Speaker 2: beautiful start in Game three. He's been like people love him, man.
Speaker 2: He's pitched in some big games for the Dodgers. He's
Speaker 2: got like that attitude that everyone loves. He comes in, Man,
Speaker 2: and I thought it was beautiful. I really really did
Speaker 2: like the fact, like you mentioned, like the Dodgers kind
Speaker 2: of weaving and having to kind of go with the
Speaker 2: flow and Walker being like, hell yeah, get me out there,
Speaker 2: give me my spikes. He said he hadn't thrown a
Speaker 2: ball all day long until he got into the to
Speaker 2: warm up to come into the game. Dude, he's out
Speaker 2: there and gets Volpi the ground out K's wells and
Speaker 2: then a beautiful, beautiful Kate Verdugo. He was just spinning
Speaker 2: that thing. After the wells, K had thrown seven at
Speaker 2: of twelve pitches for curveballs, and then he went after
Speaker 2: Verdugo with the same thing and it was nasty, and
Speaker 2: he gave this, I'm always curious how you're going to react,
Speaker 2: and he was kind of like stoic about it, like
Speaker 2: I'm here, you guys know what's up. He's gonna get paid.
Speaker 2: And then the celebration was on. Man, I thought it
Speaker 2: was very like cinematic watching Walker Bueller close it out.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see what happens with him. But again,
Speaker 2: like I just thought there was just the Dodgers outplayed
Speaker 2: the Yankees like they just out freaking played the Yankees
Speaker 2: and the only game they lost was a bullpen game
Speaker 2: that they kind of they were in it until they
Speaker 2: weren't until you know, Brent honeywell kind of beginning and the.
Speaker 1: Most gentlemen sweep ever. I mean that the one game
Speaker 1: the Yankees won was against their minor league pitching. So, uh, Dodgers,
Speaker 1: they feel like they're on top of a mountain right now,
Speaker 1: Trev a mountain. God, I want to be on that mountain. M'
Speaker 1: for the Dodgers in LA today. But I'm talking about
Speaker 1: mountain dew. People, that's a mountain we can all get on.
Speaker 1: Get off your ass, grab some mountain dew. He can't
Speaker 1: watch any more baseball. Maybe you're playing your own baseball.
Speaker 1: Maybe you're sad. Maybe you take your ball to the park.
Speaker 1: Bring some mountain dew, Bring a glove and a ball.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have a nice day. You're not gonna walk
Speaker 1: away from that day saying I had a bad time.
Speaker 1: Go the mountain is calling. You should answer, Grab your friends,
Speaker 1: grab some ice cold mountain dews. Wherever refreshing beverages are sold.
Speaker 1: There's a link in the description Let's do more Dodger
Speaker 1: love because I don't think we have Frederick Freddie Freeman
Speaker 1: your series MVP.
Speaker 2: He's I mean, he talked about a little bit after
Speaker 2: the game with I don't know if this was last
Speaker 2: night or the before, but he's with our guys a
Speaker 2: Rod and Poppy and Jeets, and he was just talking about,
Speaker 2: you know, the ability to get healthy in the days
Speaker 2: leading up to the World Series and if you're and
Speaker 2: if you go back and remember the first couple series,
Speaker 2: I mean, the guy could barely run. You know, it
Speaker 2: was it was bad, and it didn't it didn't look good,
Speaker 2: but he was gutting it out because that's what you
Speaker 2: do during the playoffs, and that's what Freddie Freeman does.
Speaker 2: He posts he said that he he got better, he
Speaker 2: was able to kind of get back to his routine
Speaker 2: and he mentioned this, which I think is so cool.
Speaker 2: And I talked to her this a little bit on
Speaker 2: baseball today. He goes, I found a cue and he
Speaker 2: was in the cage and then something clicked, like you know,
Speaker 2: like that. You go through spurts like that as a
Speaker 2: hitter where you can see every pitch and you're just
Speaker 2: getting a rhythm and everything's working perfectly. You just sometimes
Speaker 2: you're in the cage and it's just one swing or
Speaker 2: one thought process or could a word that the hitting
Speaker 2: coach says, it just registers in your brain. It's like
Speaker 2: it's like turning the lights on. Dude, It's like, oh shit,
Speaker 2: you're right. He said he had one of those before
Speaker 2: the World Series and kind of a good time to
Speaker 2: get one. For being honest. Man, he was. He was incredible, dude,
Speaker 2: he's he's he's so good for that organization. I think
Speaker 2: the guys that they have there that they signed like
Speaker 2: are kind of they're superstars but still grindy. Yes, It's
Speaker 2: like Freddie Freeman is not like out trying to freaking
Speaker 2: be the man. He's just like a dad who loves
Speaker 2: baseball and like is really good at it. He's like
Speaker 2: a baseball player. MOOKI is just a sports freak. Yes,
Speaker 2: And he's also not trying to be like the man.
Speaker 2: He's just like, I'm just I'm Mooky.
Speaker 1: I'm the best, exited, just excited to see how you
Speaker 1: label show halfter calling Mookie the sports freak.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know, to show hey freaking do all
Speaker 2: the other sports like Mookie does?
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: Yes, possibly, you never know. Showhy is just the freak
Speaker 2: like he's you think sho he gives a shit about
Speaker 2: anything but baseball and his dog. That's it. That's it.
Speaker 2: Like those three at the top of what you got
Speaker 2: going on there for many years to come. I think
Speaker 2: Freddy Slaws three years a fact check me there, Beavers.
Speaker 2: But like having those guys at the Helm who have
Speaker 2: the accolades, the performance and and like the mental bandwidth
Speaker 2: to just be leaders. They're in such a good spot.
Speaker 2: And you talk about the organization with the Dodgers three
Speaker 2: years left, thank you, Beavers. Talk about the organization. Talk
Speaker 2: to anybody that's played for them, and it's played for
Speaker 2: other organizations as well. I always bring a Brian Doser
Speaker 2: because you know that's my closest guy. Uh and he'll
Speaker 2: just say that's by far the best run organization, and
Speaker 2: he's talking about everything. It's it's down the line from
Speaker 2: how they treat families, how the travel is, how the
Speaker 2: meals are, how the coaching is, drafting, talent and evaluation.
Speaker 2: You know, obviously they have the money to do it
Speaker 2: because it's a big marketplace, and you know they spend it.
Speaker 2: They're not afraid to go out there and freaking put
Speaker 2: it out in the line. I mean, look what they
Speaker 2: gave for Yamamoto, who gave a great start in the
Speaker 2: World Series, was going to be there for fifty years.
Speaker 2: It's it really feels like a top down World Series trophy.
Speaker 1: Yeah. There, they are the better team. They are the
Speaker 1: better org. They've shown that year in year out for
Speaker 1: the past decade or so. Yeah. And that's where again
Speaker 1: I not necessarily circling back on the Cole Rizzo ball,
Speaker 1: but man, it's what you're saying about those guys, like, hey,
Speaker 1: Yankee fans were getting their feelings like, wait, Freddy Freeman
Speaker 1: was just a free agent because that that swing looked
Speaker 1: decent at the stadium. We went out and we got Rizzo. Okay, uh,
Speaker 1: do you know you know, I don't. I know you
Speaker 1: don't like trivia, trev But uh, do you know the
Speaker 1: last Yankee first baseman to hit a home run?
Speaker 2: Eh?
Speaker 1: John Birdie yea DJ Lemayhew July thirty, first, July thirty.
Speaker 1: It's Halloween. It is Halloween. It's first base of power
Speaker 1: position that when Cole got Mookie there, and that's it's
Speaker 1: why I'm still hurt by it. And again there's a
Speaker 1: coal side to it that can't be argued against. I
Speaker 1: get it. Mookie Betts isn't is going to be remembered
Speaker 1: as a unique inner circle Hall of Famer. Like you said,
Speaker 1: he's this weird sporty boy. Like there was a while
Speaker 1: when you turned on Baseball Internet and it's like, Mookie
Speaker 1: Bets bowled three hundred Mooviie Bets wrestled this bull. Mookie
Speaker 1: Bets would be an NFL wide receiver. Mookie Bets was
Speaker 1: playing shortstop this year in his thirties for the first time,
Speaker 1: about to win the NL MVP. He was gonna break baseball.
Speaker 1: They got him to squib out to keep a World
Speaker 1: Series Game five nothing.
Speaker 2: You know what though, But okay again, Dodger credit here,
Speaker 2: fucking ran he ran, dude.
Speaker 1: Dude, Freddy Freeman beat up a double playball.
Speaker 2: Yes it was. That was his fastest sprint speed all
Speaker 2: year long.
Speaker 1: Are we saying that about Stanton's trying to score like that? That?
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. These guys are dull. I'm not
Speaker 2: saying that Aaron Judge and John Carlos, Stanton and Garrett
Speaker 2: Cole aren't dogs. Those guys are dogs. I don't follow
Speaker 2: the team as closely as you do. But I think
Speaker 2: there is a different leadership style in New York where
Speaker 2: it's like, hey man, I'm going to have your back
Speaker 2: no matter what. And I think the Dodgers are like
Speaker 2: and again I'm kind of like, I'm just guessing. I'm
Speaker 2: not in the clubhouses, so you know, don't take this,
Speaker 2: you know, one hundred percent. But it seems to me
Speaker 2: that the Dodgers' philosophy talking to guys is yeah, we
Speaker 2: have your back, but this is about more than you, like,
Speaker 2: this is about us winning. Like so if there needs
Speaker 2: to be a change, like we need to make the change.
Speaker 2: And I think this year for the Yankees, what we
Speaker 2: saw with Clay Holmes and we saw with a lot
Speaker 2: of people, and maybe it starts with Aaron Boone because
Speaker 2: I know he has the players backs and I like that.
Speaker 2: I think it was maybe a little bit a little
Speaker 2: bit too much of like the pad on the back thing,
Speaker 2: and sometimes you need to kick in the ass.
Speaker 1: One thousand percent, one thousand percent. It's it's the one
Speaker 1: thing that we would change about the Yankees organization. It
Speaker 1: would be just more like proper accountability, Like it's not
Speaker 1: like you have to throw guys under the bus, like
Speaker 1: it's just again I I don't want to take well.
Speaker 1: People have taken their shots at Clay Homes and it's
Speaker 1: it's because he had the most blown saves in baseball
Speaker 1: and it took the Yankees seeing it over and over
Speaker 1: where the Dodgers the back end of their bullpen, there's
Speaker 1: days you didn't know who was coming in for the saves,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to took over this postseason, but they
Speaker 1: had Coopek out there, like you know, they they their
Speaker 1: goal is to win the game. And if you're pitching
Speaker 1: in the fourth inning, the eighth inning or whatever. The
Speaker 1: Yankees want to believe in stuff so much that they'll
Speaker 1: try to talk it into existence and then they wait
Speaker 1: till they get broken. They subbed out their starting short
Speaker 1: stop in the playoffs in twenty twenty two for the
Speaker 1: first time all year. You know why Verdugo played every
Speaker 1: game because they they've been really scared and worried about
Speaker 1: putting Judge or Soto in left field. So Jason Dominguez,
Speaker 1: who is supposed to be one of their most talented prospects,
Speaker 1: who came up, knocked around Justin Verlander and showed, you know,
Speaker 1: he has skill. I don't know what the future has.
Speaker 1: They couldn't even play him because they didn't call him
Speaker 1: up till late because we believe in Verdugo, who his
Speaker 1: number statistically great out worse than Gallows on the Yankees.
Speaker 1: So that where the Dodgers if they needed a next
Speaker 1: playoff win and Chris Taylor was the guy or whoever, like,
Speaker 1: they don't care, we need to win. It's the World Series. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is the World Series.
Speaker 2: It was the World Series.
Speaker 1: It was the World Series. Thank god.
Speaker 2: Now we start the off season pop. Now we're just
Speaker 2: we're gonna go what's next for us? Because that's really
Speaker 2: what's important here right all JM team final month, that's
Speaker 2: got to be coming up soon.
Speaker 1: Off season talk.
Speaker 2: Soto did he wear a bors hat?
Speaker 1: Uh? I don't know. He was the you know, one
Speaker 1: of the last Yankees watching the celebration was the tweet
Speaker 1: I saw about.
Speaker 2: So I saw that too, and then open their clubhouse
Speaker 2: for forty minutes after the game. We had to wait
Speaker 2: for them to get sound for baseball today last night.
Speaker 2: So that wasn't nice to you guys. What were you guys
Speaker 2: talking about anyways?
Speaker 1: Nothing? You're talking about nothing and thinking it was something
Speaker 1: like we we heard after after the game they won
Speaker 1: that they were in the dugout screaming about we're gonna
Speaker 1: actually do this thing and we're gonna win at all.
Speaker 1: And no, you're not gonna be remembered forever. You're gonna
Speaker 1: be forgotten because you blue playoff.
Speaker 2: You might be remembered forever for that fifth inning.
Speaker 1: For you lost two playoff games on defensive lapses in
Speaker 1: the World Series. It's awful trip. It's all time embarrassment.
Speaker 2: And meanwhile the Dodgers are set up to continue to
Speaker 2: go and make large runs in the postseason.
Speaker 1: You know what I loved as a signing for them
Speaker 1: show Hey for two million a year. I love that.
Speaker 2: It's not two million a year that's the stop. But
Speaker 2: technically also it is one of those things.
Speaker 3: If you want to say that you're not wrong.
Speaker 2: Cash out of pocket, two million dollars cash against the
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Speaker 2: They're rumored to be on Soto. I don't know what
Speaker 2: that means.
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Speaker 2: Final words, Can I go please? I love our fans.
Speaker 2: I love our community we built. I think that is
Speaker 2: what separates us in this baseball media world is we
Speaker 2: have a legit community of fans that we really care about.
Speaker 2: And I think our fans care about us, and I
Speaker 2: love that relationship. You know, every time I go to
Speaker 2: any baseball fields, whether it's big leagues or youth or whatever,
Speaker 2: like got a lot of people coming up and saying
Speaker 2: they like what we do, and they you know we do.
Speaker 2: We put them a lot of work. There's no doubt
Speaker 2: about it. Man, we do. We are grinding, and I
Speaker 2: think people notice that. But I love doing this and
Speaker 2: it's because the fans tune in that we're able to
Speaker 2: do this. So thank you to fans, New York fans,
Speaker 2: everyone in between. If your team stinks, were sorry, but
Speaker 2: we love you. And that's it. Man. We're gonna be
Speaker 2: here in the off season, but I can't. I need
Speaker 2: a few days off.
Speaker 1: Pop.
Speaker 2: I'm sick of hearing my own voice. Hope, hope everyone
Speaker 2: else isn't sick of it, but I'm sick of it.
Speaker 1: I can I could listen to that thing all day,
Speaker 1: like chocolate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh no, it's a Walker buell Er, Jack Flahir,
Speaker 2: you on your couch, TRAYV.
Speaker 1: It's nuts. I you know, I hope this doesn't come
Speaker 1: off as a douche anecdote, but everything I did kind
Speaker 1: of comes off with so whatever, Like I get it.
Speaker 1: I'm wearing a Jake Sucks sleeveless T shirt and I
Speaker 1: guess there's there's the people that appreciate that, and I
Speaker 1: thank you guys enough, and even the people that don't,
Speaker 1: like I kind of get it. It's kind of fucking weird.
Speaker 1: And it's like why that we were We were at
Speaker 1: Fanatics Vest this year, which was like a big, you know,
Speaker 1: first of its kind sports thing, right, like all the
Speaker 1: sports stars were in town. It was crazy the list
Speaker 1: they rolled out. It was like that Fourth of July
Speaker 1: white party. And me and Trev, Me and me and
Speaker 1: Trev were walking out, you know, probably to make a
Speaker 1: night out of it, and there was all these there
Speaker 1: was like a collection of people with their phones out
Speaker 1: like blogging, like with the little mics and the cameras
Speaker 1: and stuff, and you were being You're joking, but you
Speaker 1: were like, what's going on? Here, like what is this?
Speaker 1: And I was like, dude, I'm the problem. I I
Speaker 1: worked in electrical supply distribution. I was chilling my body.
Speaker 1: My buddy said, hey, let's start a Yankees podcast. And
Speaker 1: now we've turned into whatever we've turned into. We've got
Speaker 1: like sixty employees. Like there's a big office in Manhattan
Speaker 1: and it's all because there's a lot of people that
Speaker 1: like baseball. That's what like built all of this. So
Speaker 1: the fact that I get to be a part of
Speaker 1: that is nuts. It's it's nuts, and god, it's a
Speaker 1: lot of fun. Although there was some sadness and I
Speaker 1: did I did sleep in my clothes on the couch
Speaker 1: last night.
Speaker 2: I think that's exactly mean. Yeah, the story goes Jake
Speaker 2: store Reality slept in his clothes that night.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So thank you guys so much. If you're subscribed
Speaker 1: and all the little stuff that helps, and as you
Speaker 1: well know, the content don't stop. The off season's here.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at that Yankees, how can we get better?
Speaker 1: Where is walking a lot?
Speaker 2: And I said Walker Bueler to the padres on Baseball today,
Speaker 2: people are like, they want to kill me sacrilege. Yes,
Speaker 2: but doesn't he fit perfectly with the Padres.
Speaker 1: Congrats to the Los Angeles Dodgers. An elite franchise makes
Speaker 1: twenty twenty feel better. And how about the start of
Speaker 1: the show hay regime now one, not two, not three.
Speaker 3: Didn't even pitch this.
Speaker 2: Love you guys, love.
Speaker 1: Back to two a week next week?
Speaker 2: Where's my big old Jeff name was Blunt? What was
Speaker 2: that fifty euros or those those liras?
Speaker 1: What do you got fifty pesos?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: I think this is almost not money.
Speaker 2: Because you could get something for that something. I love everybody,
Speaker 2: La for life, A one A baby.
Speaker 1: Harry Francona to the Reds.
Speaker 3: That's worth two fifty