WEBVTT - Dirty Rush: Dropping my sister…that’s crazy! 0:00:01.000 --> 0:00:04.280 Welcome to Dirty Rush, The Truth about Serriti Life with 0:00:04.320 --> 0:00:08.520 your hosts me Gia Judice, Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Fessler. 0:00:12.840 --> 0:00:16.400 Hey guys, and welcome back to another episode of Dirty Rush. 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:19.440 We are so excited that you guys are loving this 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:23.120 podcast as much as we are. And Rush is happening 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:26.040 right now for a lot of schools, so we are 0:00:26.160 --> 0:00:29.400 ready to dive deep. We know people have been wanting 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:31.840 this kind of show for years, and we're so glad 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:35.959 that you're responding, calling in, leaving voicemails, and sharing your 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:40.519 own Rush experiences with the good and the bad. So 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:41.839 let's get into it. 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:46.640 I'm Gia Judice, I'm jen Fessler, and I'm Daisy Kent. 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:48.880 All right, guys, So we've had a lot of people 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:51.479 calling in. Let's listen to our first caller. 0:00:52.320 --> 0:00:55.400 Hi, there, my name is Rosie. I want to call 0:00:55.480 --> 0:01:00.720 in and leave them constructive feedback. Like Fessler had mentioned, 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:04.120 this is a huge untapped market and there is a 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:08.240 lot of taboos about talking about the sorority experience, and 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:11.760 I think it would be super helpful if you all 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:18.000 talked about it from a nationals perspective as well, like 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:20.839 why we aren't really allowed. 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:22.880 To talk about sorority life and why we're not allowed. 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:26.480 Where are letters and the press and those types of things. 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:30.160 And then also there was some lingo that I think 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:33.319 if we could break down a little bit better, like 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:38.200 what a press actually is, what a bid actually is, 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:42.040 what a pledge is, what a mixer is, those very 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:47.080 things that we talk about in the sorority world. And 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:50.680 I think it would be just really helpful for the 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:54.320 girls in terms of how to make an informed decision 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:56.160 about joining sorority life or not. 0:01:56.200 --> 0:01:57.200 And of course it. 0:01:57.120 --> 0:01:59.920 Goes campus to campus, is not a one size fits 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:04.280 all approach. But if you are Teresa, Judice. 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:07.560 Or and you know a mama or dad that is 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:10.679 new to the sorority life or girl that's new to 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:14.840 sorority life, what that looks like for you. And I 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:20.080 think giving these behind the scenes facts is so helpful 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:23.680 for women that are that are thinking about joining this experience. 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:28.440 There's a lot okay, dirty rushing. 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:31.360 I thought it was sort of now, not when I 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:34.960 was going through it, but when you rush before school 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:39.320 even started, right, And like that whole rush process I 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:42.240 hear in a lot of schools happens before rush. 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:47.320 Okay, so my ver. My definition of like dirty rush 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:52.600 was when like kind of like playing dirty. So when 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:57.320 we were at Rutgers first semester, we would almost kind 0:02:57.320 --> 0:03:02.160 of get recruited by a sorority who had interest in us, 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:06.000 but behind closed doors so kind of try to They 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:09.200 were basically trying to persuade us to go to a 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:13.960 sorority before the rushing process started, so that our minds 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:17.720 were made up before going through the recruitment process. 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:22.919 Okay, Mine was kind of like because we did recruitment 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:24.880 right when we got to school. I think we were 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:28.280 at school like maybe like two weeks and then we 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:31.800 went into recruitment. And so I would say ours was 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:34.720 at San Diego State. You would like go out to 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:37.480 all the frat parties and meet all the frat guys. 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:41.160 None of the like actual sorority girls could go out 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:44.000 because I don't know, you weren't allowed. That was like 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:47.120 your like dry period or whatever. And so you would 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:49.040 go and you would meet all these guys and they 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:52.040 were older guys like in the frats, and then they 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:55.480 would all tell the sorority girls like what girls they 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:57.640 thought were like cool and fun to hang out with 0:03:57.720 --> 0:04:00.760 and stuff like that. Both were going to the parties, 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:02.800 and I had no idea that was happening. And then 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:06.880 I remember when I was like sophomore, and I was like, 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:10.600 oh my gosh, this is crazy, but it was so fun. Honestly. 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:14.680 Wait, that's a wild definition of dirty rushing. Having the 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:19.400 frat guys do your homework literally doing this sorority home 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:20.360 wark right. 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:25.080 I'm they were probably basing it off of something sort 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:28.520 of physical, that's just my guess. Yeah, fairly interested in 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:29.440 what you were majoring in. 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:32.560 Probably, yeah, probably. 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:42.839 What about you guys? What about this other lingal rogamma rogramma? 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:46.440 Okay? For me, that was like when you get divided 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:49.240 into groups, so like you sign up for recruitment and 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:52.560 then say, there's a they have like a bunch of 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:55.160 ro gramma gammas. So I was with a group of 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:58.320 like ten girls and then we have one ro gamma 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:01.240 and she's already in a sorority and girl in a sorority. 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:04.560 You don't know what sorority she's in, but she's trying 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:06.880 to like help you navigate it and help you find 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:10.040 the best like place as the best like home and 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:10.760 fit for you. 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:14.400 Yeah, she's she's in a sorority, but she doesn't have 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:17.159 any she doesn't try to influence you. 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:19.520 No, they can, like they're not allowed. 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:21.640 So there anyway. 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:25.760 No, No, you don't find out until the end. I 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:29.640 mean you'll try to guess who, like what sorority they're 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:33.719 in as you're going through recruitment, but they're basically in 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:37.799 charge of like little groups. Like Daisy said, my definition 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:40.080 was pretty much the same thing, except I didn't call 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:45.960 them rogammas. They were called pie key's My guys. 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:47.320 We didn't have any of this. 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:50.720 No, you didn't have someone like leading you and directing 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:53.279 you through, like to houses and stuff. 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:55.720 I mean, we definitely had people leading us through, but 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:57.800 there was no I don't remember talking to anyone, but 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:00.440 you know, the girls that I was grouped with, it 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:03.880 wasn't nobody was giving advice or you know, No, I don't, 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:07.320 And if there was someone, we didn't call them rogammas. 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:09.680 We probably just called them that nice girl who's helping. 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:14.440 Yeah, honestly, it was so helpful. I remember it. I 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:18.640 forget the name of mine, but she was so insanely nice. 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:22.279 Really, Yeah, No, I mean they were definitely super helpful, 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:26.320 and it was so funny because during the recruitment process 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:28.920 we would all try to guess what sorority they were 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:34.600 from and what sorority they were in, and basically at 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:38.200 the end they would all reveal which sorority they were in, 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:41.120 and everyone freaked out and like clapped their hands. It 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:43.880 was honestly kind of stupid, but I mean everyone, like 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:47.400 everyone got like so high, like learning what sorority they 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:50.480 were actually in and when they like revealed their identity. 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:54.200 But it was I don't know, some of the things 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:58.960 really made me make me say, yeah, literally. 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:03.880 Out where they're what other lingo I think she asked 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:04.960 what a bid was. 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:13.080 Okay, so a bid is basically when you are wanted 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:15.720 by the sorority, right. 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:20.280 Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, so like at the end, I remember, 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:22.240 we got a little card and you like opened it 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:24.960 up and like that was my bid to be an alpha. 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:25.120 Fy. 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:32.160 Yeah, And then I guess technically during I guess, as 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:35.720 you get called back, I guess that's not really a bid, 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:39.080 but I yes, it's like when the sororities are also 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:41.920 showing interest in you that they want you back, so yeah, 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:43.680 hoping to get a potential bid. 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:47.280 At the end, for sure. 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:50.600 We're either one of you guys on exact boards, I 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:51.800 was you were. 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:57.560 Yeah, So I mean one they say it looks great 0:07:57.600 --> 0:08:02.480 on your resume, so yeah, is something good just to 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:07.760 have like under your belt. But you know, you can 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:12.200 obviously be the president, the vice president, treasurer, take one 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:15.600 of those lead roles on but they do take a 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:19.120 lot of responsibility. So I wanted to do something that 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:22.680 was a little more fun and maybe not as much responsibility. 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:29.160 So I was Special Chair of Events, So I basically 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:33.320 coordinated like all of our big events, which I like 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:37.839 doing anyway. I kind of like party planning. So I 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:41.320 planned like our b Mock, which was big man on 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:44.360 campus for at Rutgers, and that was like our breast 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:49.960 Cancer Walk because that was our philanthropy breast cancer. And 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:54.160 so I planned b Mock parents Weekend and a lot 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:57.280 of the bigger events that Zeta would do at Rutgers. 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:02.440 So that was a super fun, like little position to 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:08.280 have on the on the board. But I wasn't like 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:11.400 an exact because wasn't the exacts like that's like the 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:13.280 first here, and then. 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:15.360 I would there's like ones under it. 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:18.400 Yeah, so I was the ones like under it. But 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:21.800 then exec is like the people who are all sitting 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:23.800 at the front during your chapter meetings. 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:28.520 Yeah, yeah, I did chair your rush chair rush Chair, 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:30.920 Oh my gosh, probably so fun. 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:34.439 Yeah, and I I wrote all of these songs to 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:37.360 you guys probably don't even know West Side Story like 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:40.120 back in the day, but I wrote all when You're 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:42.600 a PI, You're a FI all the way, like all 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:45.959 of this, like the dances, and that was. 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:48.920 Like you were definitely a nice rush chair. 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:54.480 Yeah, rush chair was, well what is it? 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:56.199 I mean back then I was rush chair meeting that 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:57.679 I was like I was in charge of like all 0:09:57.720 --> 0:09:58.679 of the skits. 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:02.480 Yeah, like putting together Yeah that's your little dances. 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:05.120 Right, Yes, that's what it is, right, I mean I 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:07.400 start didn't do anything like I think. 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:10.640 It's also mainly now also like going through the social 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:15.160 media and the snagrams and finding your potential recruits that 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:16.160 you really want. 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:18.400 So you didn't have social media, you guys. It was 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:21.880 a whole different world. It was a group of girls 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:25.240 showing up a big group and us singing West Side 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:27.840 Story and hoping that they were going to think that 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:30.280 we were fabulous. It was just so different. 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:33.760 Yeah, it is so different with social media. I was 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:39.000 on an execue, I did panelnic delegate, so I like 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:42.400 went and met with the school and met with Panelonic 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:45.000 when they came in and talked to them. So that 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:47.880 was really interesting because our. 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:50.240 School to get mixers approved. 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:53.960 Yeah, and like if you're you were on like probation 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:56.040 or something like that, if your sorority or whatever, it 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:58.839 was because you would show up to the meeting at 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:00.760 school on campus and and it would be like all 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:03.800 the other sororities there too, which it was fun because 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:05.400 I was friends with a bunch of girls and other 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:07.920 sororities too, so it was kind of a way to 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:11.120 like mix some mingle that way too, and you could 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:13.559 like pair up with a sorority and like do things together. 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:17.800 So it was fun. But I definitely like I always 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:20.040 knew like the tea that was going on, I felt like. 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:24.199 But then I also had to like do accreditation for people. 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:27.120 So accreditation was like I think a good thing about 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:29.760 sororities is that they like they make you do community service. 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:32.160 You have to keep a certain GPA. So I was 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:34.520 in charge of like tracking all of that and making 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:36.920 sure girls got the amount of community service they had 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:39.240 to do, making sure they were still at like a GPA, 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:42.960 and then making sure they went to like certain events 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:47.760 that like supported other philanthropies too. We did that, So, yeah, 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:48.640 that's what I did. 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:51.520 Did you enjoy it? Would you suggest it? 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:52.520 So? 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:56.240 I actually I wasn't gonna do it, and then they 0:11:56.320 --> 0:12:00.319 like needed somebody and people were asking me to do it, 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:02.760 and I was like, Okay, I guess I'll do it. 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:07.120 So a little forced, yeah, but honestly, I like, I 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:09.400 think that's kind of how I did it too. 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:10.239 Yeah. 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:12.760 I can't see me like just volunteering on it and 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:14.600 it kept having more responsibility. 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:17.600 Yeah, I think. Do you know what I think is 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:22.360 the hardest job on exec is risk chair? Oh my god, 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:24.079 I know that's. 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:25.960 Where you I think from what I remember my son 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:27.720 because I think he did. Don't you sit outside of 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:29.000 parties for boy? 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:30.720 Is that what that is? And you can't kind of 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:34.000 you're just like you're in charge of like the girls 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:37.480 at your sorority. So if someone like is in like trouble, 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:40.040 or if someone like drinks too much, if something like 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:43.400 that happens, like you're the one, like people are always 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:46.319 like able to call kind of and at like pref 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:50.440 and like formals, you're in charge of like being the 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:51.120 one kind. 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:53.959 Of you have to be sober, Yeah, yeah, your risk chair. 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:58.240 You have to be sober at these events. And I mean, 0:12:58.280 --> 0:13:02.640 of course, you know times maybe they'll sneak a drink 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:08.400 or too, I think, and you're always the bad guy. 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:10.600 Yeah, you're always the bad guy. That's why I think 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:14.480 it's the hardest like one to be because you always 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:16.560 have to be like keeping ever. 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:18.760 Only remember that for my son, like he'd be on 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:22.080 a cell phone like outside whatever party, Like this sucks. 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:23.520 I don't know why I volunteered for this. 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:27.640 I mean because he probably had a monitor who was 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:28.800 coming in and out of the frat. 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:32.120 Yeah yeah, yeah. 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:33.720 It's not a fun not a fun job. 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:37.280 Yeah right, So any other lingo you guys, I mean, 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:38.559 I'm sure we're gonna. 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:45.920 Come up with dorm storming dorms, which this is like interesting, 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:48.719 but like I don't think this was a part of 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:52.960 like my recruitment process. I think it was just the 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:56.760 normal thing to do when you were a freshman. So 0:13:57.040 --> 0:14:03.120 apparently dorm storming is it's basically going from door to 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:07.640 door in your dorm or residence halls to basically like 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:10.679 interact with the people on your whole, like on your 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:11.320 whole and. 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:11.719 Just like. 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:17.760 Kind of recruit them for recruitment, But I don't think 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:21.080 anyone ever did that. Like I think it was mainly 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:25.880 like for us going into my freshman year, it was normal. 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:28.560 Like I remember I was setting up my dorm room 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:31.920 freshman year and one of my good friends was a 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:34.440 cheerleader at Rutgers, and she like just walked into my 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:37.280 dorm and was like, hey, so, like I'm a cheerleader 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:39.200 here at Rutgers and was like so kiddy, And I 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:42.680 was like, oh my god, what is going on? But 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:46.240 she's been she was like at Rutgers all summer because 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:50.280 she was training and like practicing for the cheer team. 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:54.960 So she was like so excited when we all moved 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:57.400 in because she's like, I've been so lonely all summer, 0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:00.320 Like I'm so excited to meet new friends. And I 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:02.280 think it was just the normal thing to do as 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:05.160 a freshman, just kind of knock on everyone's door, introduce 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:10.720 yourself and kind of get to know people just going 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:12.840 into school. I don't think it really had anything to 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:16.400 do necessarily with recruitment. What do you guys think, I 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:20.040 honestly have never heard of that before. But but you 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:22.840 did the same thing right on when you were a freshman. 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:26.200 You kind of went to people's doors, introduced yourself, made 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:27.960 the friends of people on your whole one. 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:32.720 Hundred percent, and we kept our like dorm door always opened, 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:35.840 Me and my roommate Christy. It's actually funny. Thor, my 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:38.640 boyfriend was my next door neighbor in the dorm. 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:42.720 That's so funny, and so you probably met him by 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:44.600 watch your boyfriend's name door. 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:45.840 Yeah. 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:48.840 I loved Daisy and Thor. That's like its own episode. 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:49.960 We're gonna talk about that. 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:51.840 I was like, it was funny when we were moving 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:55.000 in together because people were like, oh, how is it 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:57.320 like moving in together? And I was like, well, you 0:15:57.360 --> 0:16:00.160 know when I was nineteen. He definitely saw me at 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:04.160 my worst and my best in the dorm room next door. 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:06.560 So I was like, I don't think I can be 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:08.200 most much worse than that. 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:10.880 He saw it all. 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:16.200 What about a suicide bid that was a risky thing. 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:20.920 Oh yeah, So that's like when you only I mean 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:24.040 from my knowledge because I remember a roguam like telling 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:26.920 us not to do this. It's when you only put 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:29.640 like one sorority. So say you're on pref preface is 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:33.320 the last night before you go to get your bid 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:36.360 and you have two sororities and I didn't want one 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:39.000 at all, but I wanted the other one, and I 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:42.880 only put like Alpha FY and I didn't put anything else. 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:45.720 And they know that then that they know that you're 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:47.120 like yeah, all. 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:51.040 In yes, because then if you only put down one 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:54.640 like during like on PREF day, like after you go 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:58.040 to the voting room and you kind of rank which 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:01.000 sorority you want from great is to lease? So one 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:06.159 two three and or is it two for PREF or 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:06.680 is it three? 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:11.600 Do you guys remember you mine was two the only. 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:14.000 Reason, so okay, so then it probably is, oh yeah, 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:19.840 because I prefed I think GFI and ZATA, so I yeah, 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:23.520 I think it is maybe two. And then if you 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:28.840 only put one sorority down and that sorority ended up 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:33.359 not choosing you, then you you get into nothing. So 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:36.320 that's why it's called suicide bid, because you could potentially 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:39.280 risk not getting into a sorority at all. So you 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:42.000 just went through this whole process and then you could 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:43.600 essentially like end up with nothing. 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:47.680 And I think it's because the sorority, I don't think 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:51.840 they necessarily know, but Panolynic knows. Because Panolymic, it's like 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:53.919 the sorority will put their bid in for you and 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:56.879 then you put what you want in and then it 0:17:56.960 --> 0:17:59.800 kind of like matches up that way. But Panelmtic I 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:04.159 think hates it when you do just one. So I 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:06.919 think that that's part of the reason why too. 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:11.280 Yeah, I don't know. 0:18:11.040 --> 0:18:13.720 It's like I don't know how to extend. It's like 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:18.960 so much. I'm like thinking back to that time, I'm like, whoa, imagine, 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:21.720 imagine And I think, probably, Daisy, it was better that 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:26.000 you didn't know anything going in every way. Honestly, yeah, 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:28.400 I think I would have been like losing my mind 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:31.600 a little bit. But also I think San Diego State 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:36.640 like is not as intense at all as like other schools. 0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:39.520 So I mean at first when I first went in, 0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:42.840 I was like what am I doing? And then I 0:18:42.880 --> 0:18:44.840 suck with it because my roommate and like, I'm so 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:46.960 happy I did. I ended up having the time of 0:18:47.000 --> 0:19:01.960 my life. Let's in the collar, hi, Grace. 0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:08.200 Another interesting element is I have a younger two younger sisters. 0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:11.760 One of them went through Rush two years later while 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:14.679 I was at school, and one is going through rush 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:19.520 right now. But the interesting thing is that my sorority 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:21.880 actually dropped both of. 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:27.239 Them in the first You actually just reminded me of 0:19:27.280 --> 0:19:30.600 something that I was gonna say to you that during COVID, though, 0:19:31.119 --> 0:19:35.200 that was also of something that happened very often they 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:38.919 screwed up, kind of like the legacy you know of 0:19:38.960 --> 0:19:42.640 a sister when, because it doesn't matter across all boards, 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:44.960 say your sister didn't even go to the same college 0:19:44.960 --> 0:19:49.120 that you went to, she should always have that legacy 0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:54.639 of getting into that sorority wherever. So they really screwed 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:57.679 that up. I know for a fact COVID during COVID 0:19:57.760 --> 0:20:01.720 and not during COVID. It seems to be always a mistake. 0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:06.000 But wow, that would have been interesting somehow. 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:08.119 I think that happened at my school too, where it 0:20:08.240 --> 0:20:10.280 just messed up the way that they did things to 0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:14.080 where legacy really was not as important as it may 0:20:14.119 --> 0:20:18.440 have used to them. And that is something that really 0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:19.080 put me off. 0:20:19.160 --> 0:20:20.880 And just that's true. 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:23.280 Contact your sorority after. 0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:29.520 Yeah, I did, and they had zero good excuse for it. 0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:31.560 They were like, oh, it must have just slipped through 0:20:31.560 --> 0:20:32.080 the cracks. 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:34.760 Yeah, you guys, where do when they vote now? Like, 0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:37.640 because that would have never happened back in the day. 0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:41.600 A sister forget it in a way. But that was 0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:43.520 also a time where you everybody will put their heads 0:20:43.520 --> 0:20:47.399 down and you would like raise your hand. Like it 0:20:47.440 --> 0:20:49.360 wasn't like social like you can vote now, is there 0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:52.359 like an app that you can vote on? So like 0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:53.639 it's so anonymous. 0:20:53.840 --> 0:20:55.919 Yeah, that's what the US in ours as you like 0:20:56.000 --> 0:20:58.359 rank people through an app, and a lot more of 0:20:58.400 --> 0:20:59.680 it is done through technology. 0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:02.320 So maybe that's how people kind of slipped through the crocs. 0:21:02.359 --> 0:21:05.280 But what what was that app called I forget. 0:21:05.320 --> 0:21:08.840 Not remember for the life of me, But it was. 0:21:08.840 --> 0:21:12.159 And yeah, it was like a whole system. 0:21:12.440 --> 0:21:15.399 Yeah no, I just there was that would not that 0:21:15.440 --> 0:21:19.800 wouldn't have happened. I don't think when I went on paper, Yeah, yeah, 0:21:19.800 --> 0:21:23.000 when I went in, it was a three computer. We 0:21:23.040 --> 0:21:25.160 had three Three of my best friends were already in 0:21:25.280 --> 0:21:29.639 a FI because I was a transfer student, and it 0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:31.359 was just nobody was going to go I mean, there 0:21:31.359 --> 0:21:34.320 were three of them, so nobody was going to give them, 0:21:34.440 --> 0:21:36.800 you know, any shit. So it was kind of like 0:21:37.800 --> 0:21:41.480 a shoeing. But I but even like that, like if 0:21:41.480 --> 0:21:42.879 you had a mother that was a FI you were 0:21:42.880 --> 0:21:43.360 getting in. 0:21:45.240 --> 0:21:45.480 Yeah. 0:21:45.560 --> 0:21:47.959 See that's an interesting thing too, because I had an 0:21:48.000 --> 0:21:50.040 aunt that went to the same school as me, and 0:21:50.080 --> 0:21:52.919 she was like, oh, you definitely will be able to 0:21:52.960 --> 0:21:56.040 get through and just be a kapa because that's what 0:21:56.080 --> 0:21:59.760